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CANADA Debates of the Senate 1st SESSION . 38th PARLIAMENT . VOLUME 142 . NUMBER 82 OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Wednesday, July 6, 2005 ^ THE HONOURABLE DANIEL HAYS SPEAKER CONTENTS (Daily index of proceedings appears at back of this issue). Debates and Publications: Chambers Building, Room 943, Tel. 996-0193 Published by the Senate Available from PWGSC ± Publishing and Depository Services, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0S5. Also available on the Internet: http://www.parl.gc.ca 1718 THE SENATE Wednesday, July 6, 2005 The Senate met at 1:30 p.m., the Speaker in the chair. The Hon. the Speaker: Senator Andreychuk, I am sorry but your three minutes have expired. Prayers. ORGANIZATION FOR SECURITY SENATORS' STATEMENTS AND CO-OPERATION IN EUROPE FOURTEENTH PARLIAMENTARY ASSEMBLY ACTION AGAINST POVERTY Hon. Jerahmiel S. Grafstein: Honourable senators, yesterday the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Hon. A. Raynell Andreychuk: Honourable senators, this year is Co-operation in Europe completed its fourteenth annual session the most significant year for world leaders. With the Gleneagles in Washington, D.C. It lasted over five days and was attended by G8 Summit, there is an opportunity to give not charity but more than 1,000 parliamentarians and staff. It was probably the effective aid. With the backdrop of the New Partnership for largest assembly in its history. The Washington Declaration, a Africa's Development, NEPAD, where African leaders made compendium of all resolutions adopted, will be tabled in the undertakings for good governance and new accountability in Senate. The OSCE Parliamentary Assembly is composed of Africa, and with the Kananaskis commitments lead by former parliamentarians from 55 member states and is the largest Prime Minister Chrétien, plans were begun to mobilize world international organization dedicated to the advancement of opinion and government action. Our Minister of Finance signed democratic rights, human rights, and economic and security on to the recommendations and commitments in the Blair cooperation. commission. Now, we have the Gleneagles summit where G8 leaders can exercise, as Mr. Nelson Mandela said, ``leadership, vision and political courage.'' The Washington Declaration included a number of issues on which Canadian parliamentarians took the lead: trafficking in human beings; steps for cooperation in the Middle East; All these were initiatives to start an extraordinary attempt to combating anti-Semitism; advancing the fight against corruption eradicate poverty through effective aid, trade and a new form of amongst parliamentarians and in the public service; improving engagement. This year, there is a three-pronged approach. The democratic surveillance of election monitoring; codes of conduct aid initiatives will be followed by the Millennium Summit in for peacekeepers and international representatives; and gender September, where each government will be measured as to how issues. the millennium goals that they committed to will be met. The final segment of this three-pronged approach will be the round of world trade talks in December aimed at eradicating a trade regime I was pleased to be re-elected for a third time as a Senior Officer that so disadvantages the third world. and Treasurer and as Leader of the Liberal, Democratic and Reformer's Political group. I extend my appreciation and congratulations to our colleague, the Honourable Senator In his speech in London's Trafalgar Square on Saturday, Di Nino, for his assiduous performance as head of the Nelson Mandela made these comments: Canadian delegation. I intend to have the Senate consider a number of aspects of the Washington Declaration, which each Massive poverty and obscene inequality are such terrible parliamentary delegation was mandated to do under the scourges of our time — times in which the world boasts declaration. breathtaking advances in science, technology, industry and wealth accumulation — that they have to rank alongside I would like to add a special word of congratulations to Speaker slavery and apartheid as social evils. Dennis Hastert, of the House of Representatives, to our Congressional American hosts and to Congressman Alcee The Global Campaign for Action Against Poverty can Hastings, who was re-elected President of the OSCE take its place as a public movement alongside the movement Parliamentary Association and who invited us to share an to abolish slavery and the international solidarity against outstanding visit to George Washington's home on Mount apartheid. Vernon on the Potomac. Our hosts also invited us to participate in the festivities on Capitol Hill for their July 4 celebration, together with over one million Americans. It was a memorable Mr. Mandela also said: experience for all of us. Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the TAX BURDEN ON YOUNG PROFESSIONALS actions of human beings. Hon. Wilbert J. Keon: Honourable senators, there is an article And overcoming poverty is not a gesture of charity. It is in today's Ottawa Citizen by Sarah Schmidt that says one third of an act of justice. It is the protection of a fundamental human our graduating Ph.D. students this year will move to another right, the right to dignity and a decent life. country. This disturbing fact has been with us for some time and, July 6, 2005 SENATE DEBATES 1719 having had personal experience in this area, I can tell honourable The Hon. the Speaker: Is leave granted, honourable senators? senators why they are leaving Canada. They move to the United States because their disposable income will be about double what Hon. Senators: it would be in Canada. They will pay about one half the tax in Agreed. America that they would pay in Canada. Hon. Marcel Prud'homme: May I make a comment? I believe the government must address this situation and ease the tax burden on these young people who are on the way up. It is The Hon. the Speaker: It is a debatable motion. completely unfair to continue to tax them at the current levels. Senator Prud'homme: That means the committees that may have to sit may not sit. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS The Hon. the Speaker: Is it your pleasure, honourable senators, to adopt the motion? LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS NATIONAL FINANCE Motion agreed to. COMMITTEES AUTHORIZED TO MEET DURING ADJOURNMENT OF THE SENATE MEMBERSHIP OF STANDING SENATE COMMITTEE ON CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR SENATORS Hon. Bill Rompkey (Deputy Leader of the Government): Honourable senators, with leave of the Senate, I move: Hon. Jack Austin (Leader of the Government): Honourable senators, I move, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kinsella: That the Standing Senate Committees on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, and National Finance, be That pursuant to Rule 85(2.1) of the Rules of the Senate empowered, in accordance with rule 95(3)a), to sit during the membership of the Standing Senate Committee on the period of July 11 until July 18, 2005 inclusive, even Conflict of Interest for Senators are as follows: though the Senate may then be adjourned for a period exceeding one week; and The Honourable Senators: Andreychuk, Angus, That these committees be authorized to meet at any time Carstairs, P.C., Joyal, P.C. and Robichaud, P.C. during this period. The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, because this . (1340) motion is deemed adopted upon being put in the manner that it The Hon. the Speaker: Does Senator Rompkey wish leave to do has been put, and the rule that provides for it is not in our current that now? rules as distributed, I will read rule 85(2.1), which states: Hon. Terry Stratton (Deputy Leader of the Opposition): Perhaps 85(2.1) The Leader of the Government shall present a my honourable friend could review those dates again. motion, seconded by the Leader of the Opposition, to the Senate on the membership of the Committee on Conflict of Senator Rompkey: My motion yesterday referred to the period Interest for Senators at the beginning of each session and of July 8 to July 15. This motion now says from July 11 to this motion will be deemed adopted without debate or vote July 18, to make it clear that the committees are sitting next week. when moved and a similar motion will be moved for any substitution in the membership of the Committee. The Hon. the Speaker: Is leave granted, honourable senators? [Translation] Hon. Senators: Agreed. Motion agreed to. LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS THE SENATE COMMITTEE AUTHORIZED TO MEET DURING ADJOURNMENT OF THE SENATE MOTION TO EXTEND SITTING ADOPTED Hon. Bill Rompkey (Deputy Leader of the Government): Hon. Lise Bacon: Honourable senators, with leave of the Senate Honourable senators, with leave of the Senate, I move: and notwithstanding rule 58(1)(i), I move: That, notwithstanding the Order of the Senate of That, pursuant to rule 95(3)(a), the Standing Senate November 2, 2004, when the Senate sits today, Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs be Wednesday, July 6, 2005, it continue its proceedings authorized to meet on Thursday, July 7, 2005, even beyond 4 p.m. and follow the normal adjournment though the Senate may then be adjourned for a period procedure according to rule 6(1). exceeding one week, in order to consider Bill C-2. 1720 SENATE DEBATES July 6, 2005 The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, is leave granted? 1. The relocation of federal department head offices from bilingual to unilingual regions and its effect on the Hon. Senators: Agreed. employees' ability to work in the official language of their choice; Motion agreed to. 2. The measures that can be taken to prevent such [English] relocations from adversely affecting the application of Part V of the Official Languages Act in these offices, and SOCIAL AFFAIRS, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY the relocated employees' ability to work in the official language of their choice.