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Whole Day Download the Hansard Wednesday Volume 664 25 September 2019 No. 342 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Wednesday 25 September 2019 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2019 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 651 25 SEPTEMBER 2019 652 House of Commons Legal Advice: Prorogation 11.37 am Wednesday 25 September 2019 Joanna Cherry (Edinburgh South West) (SNP) (Urgent Question): To ask the Attorney General if he will make The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock a statement about his legal opinion on the advice given to Her Majesty the Queen to prorogue Parliament. PRAYERS The Attorney General (Mr Geoffrey Cox): As the hon. and learned Lady knows, the Supreme Court gave [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] judgment on this issue yesterday, and that judgment sets out the definitive and final legal position on the advice Speaker’s Statement given to Her Majesty on the Prorogation of Parliament. The Government’s legal view during the case was set Mr Speaker: Colleagues, welcome back to our place out and argued fully before the Supreme Court. The of work. hearing was streamed live and the Government’s written The UK Supreme Court ruled yesterday that case was, and is, available on the Supreme Court website. “Parliament has not been prorogued” I took a close interest in the case—[Interruption]—and and that the Speaker of the House of Commons and I oversaw the Government’s team of counsel. I have to the Lord Speaker say that if every time I lost a case I was called upon to resign, I would probably never have had a practice. “can take immediate steps to enable each House to meet as soon as possible” The Government accept the judgment and accept that to decide upon a way forward. they lost the case. At all times, the Government acted in good faith and in the belief that their approach was I will arrange for the citation for that judgment to be both lawful and constitutional. These are complex matters, entered in the Journal of this House and accordingly on which senior and distinguished lawyers will disagree. direct that the item relating to the Prorogation of Parliament The divisional court, led by the Lord Chief Justice, as in the Journal of Monday 9 September is expunged and well as Lord Doherty in the outer house of Scotland, the House is instead recorded as adjourned at the close agreed with the Government’s position, but we were of the business. I instruct the Clerk to correct the disappointed that, in the end, the Supreme Court took a Journal accordingly and to record the House to have different view. Of course, we respect its judgment. adjourned at the close of business on Monday 9 September until today. Given the Supreme Court’s judgment, in legal terms the matter is settled, and, as the hon. and learned Lady Members should also be aware that Royal Assent to will know, I am bound by the long-standing convention the Parliamentary Buildings (Restoration and Renewal) that the views of the Law Officers are not disclosed Bill, which formed part of the royal commission appointed outside the Government without their consent. However, under the quashed Order in Council, will need to be I will consider over the coming days whether the public re-signified. interest might require a greater disclosure of the advice I wish to record my thanks, and I hope colleagues given to the Government on the subject. I am unable to across the House will join me in doing so, to the staff of give an undertaking or a promise to the hon. and learned the House, including the security, catering, Chamber Lady at this point, but the matter is under consideration. business, parliamentary digital and in-house services teams, who have worked exceptionally hard over the past 24 hours Joanna Cherry: I too took a close interest in the case. to prepare for this resumption. Let me start by assuring the Attorney General that I am You will know—but in the name of the public not going to call for his resignation—yet. intelligibility of our proceedings, I think it worthwhile Yesterday was a very special day for Scots law and the to note—that there is no ministerial Question Time Scottish legal tradition going back to the declaration of today, including therefore no prime ministerial Question Arbroath that the Government are not above the law. Time. The reason for that is very simple. As colleagues Following in the footsteps of Scotland’s Supreme Court, will be aware, there are notification requirements: questions the UK Supreme Court asserted the rule of law and the ordinarily are tabled three sitting days before the exchanges separation of powers, and it restored democracy. It is take place, so there are no Prime Minister’s questions worth emphasising that the decision was unanimous, as today. However, there is scope, as I indicated in public was that of Scotland’sSupreme Court, chaired by Scotland’s yesterday, for urgent questions, ministerial statements most senior judge, the Lord President of the Court of and other business. Session. Both Courts unanimously found that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament was unlawful, void and of no effect. However, the question I am interested in is how it came to pass that that was ever allowed to happen. Redacted documents lodged with the Scottish Court confirmed the suspicion that this was a plan cooked up in No. 10 by the Prime Minister and his special advisers. I want to ask about documents that mysteriously found their way into the public domain yesterday afternoon, when an unredacted version of one of those lodged 653 Legal Advice: Prorogation25 SEPTEMBER 2019 Legal Advice: Prorogation 654 [Joanna Cherry] Nick Thomas-Symonds (Torfaen) (Lab): I congratulate the hon. and learned Member for Edinburgh South with the Scottish Court found its way to Sky News and West (Joanna Cherry) on securing the urgent question revealed that the Attorney General had said that the and for her work on this matter. Yesterday’s decision of advice to prorogue was lawful and that anyone who said the Supreme Court—I give credit to all those who otherwise was doing so for political reasons. Knowing brought the cases—was the most damning judicial the Attorney General, I am sure that his advice was indictment of a Government in modern times: that the considerably more detailed and nuanced than the three decision to advise Her Majesty the Queen to prorogue sentences that appear in the unredacted document. Can Parliament was unlawful. he tell us whether a legal opinion was made available to This Government stand in shame, tendering illegal the Prime Minister or the Cabinet? advice to our monarch and not even able to uphold that The right hon. Member for Hastings and Rye (Amber most basic and important of principles: abiding by the Rudd) has said that when she was in the Cabinet, rule of law. What we know from yesterday’s leaked Cabinet Ministers requested to see the advice but it was document is that the Attorney General said that his not handed over. Is that correct? Can the Attorney advice on the question of the law was that this was General tell us what was given to the Prime Minister, if “lawful and within the constitution”, not to the Cabinet? Many of us believe that the Attorney and that any accusations of unlawfulness were “motivated General is being offered up as a fall guy for the Prime by political considerations”. If that is in any way accurate Minister’s botched plans. Does he therefore agree that as to his full advice, he was wrong on both counts. His releasing the advice in its entirety will help him avoid “close interest” simply was not enough. being the scapegoat for a plan dreamed up by the Prime Minister and his advisers? Will he give the undertaking, I will ask the Attorney General a number of questions. which he hinted he might give, today? Can he confirm why the Government gave no witness statement to the Court? Indeed, the Court was left in a The Attorney General: I am extremely grateful to the position where it said: hon. and learned Lady for her kindness and solicitousness “No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect for my welfare. I am particularly attracted by the tempting has been put before the court”. prospect that she dangles before me, but she will know Why not? The Attorney General talks about respecting that I am obliged by the convention to say that I am not the decision of the judges, but the Chancellor of the Duchy permitted to disclose the advice that I may or may not of Lancaster was on the radio this morning saying that have given to the Government. But I repeat: the matter he disagrees with the decision. He should tell us which is under consideration. parts of the judgment the Government disagree with. Mr Kenneth Clarke (Rushcliffe) (Ind): Does my right May I give the Attorney General a simple piece of advice hon. and learned Friend agree that if, in the future, we for his considerations about the publication of this advice were unfortunate enough to have a Corbynista Labour over the next few days—a simple suggestion? Just publish Government—[Interruption.] That is obviously not thought it and make it open to Parliament and the public. to be a very likely prospect, but if that misfortune were On this Attorney General’s watch, the Government to occur, if that Government were to decide to suspend have been found in contempt of Parliament.
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