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OFFICIAL RECORD of PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 28 March 2001 the Council Met at Half-Past Two O'clock LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 4175 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 28 March 2001 The Council met at half-past Two o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE MRS RITA FAN HSU LAI-TAI, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH TING WOO-SHOU, J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TIEN PEI-CHUN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE DAVID CHU YU-LIN THE HONOURABLE CYD HO SAU-LAN THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN IR DR THE HONOURABLE RAYMOND HO CHUNG-TAI, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LEE CHU-MING, S.C., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ERIC LI KA-CHEUNG, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE DAVID LI KWOK-PO, J.P. THE HONOURABLE FRED LI WAH-MING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE NG LEUNG-SING 4176 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 PROF THE HONOURABLE NG CHING-FAI THE HONOURABLE MARGARET NG THE HONOURABLE MRS SELINA CHOW LIANG SHUK-YEE, J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG MAN-KWONG THE HONOURABLE HUI CHEUNG-CHING THE HONOURABLE CHAN KWOK-KEUNG THE HONOURABLE CHAN YUEN-HAN THE HONOURABLE BERNARD CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM THE HONOURABLE MRS SOPHIE LEUNG LAU YAU-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG THE HONOURABLE SIN CHUNG-KAI THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WONG WANG-FAT, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PHILIP WONG YU-HONG THE HONOURABLE WONG YUNG-KAN THE HONOURABLE JASPER TSANG YOK-SING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HOWARD YOUNG, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE YEUNG SUM THE HONOURABLE YEUNG YIU-CHUNG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 4177 THE HONOURABLE LAU CHIN-SHEK, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAU KONG-WAH THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS MIRIAM LAU KIN-YEE, J.P. THE HONOURABLE AMBROSE LAU HON-CHUEN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHOY SO-YUK THE HONOURABLE ANDREW CHENG KAR-FOO THE HONOURABLE SZETO WAH THE HONOURABLE TIMOTHY FOK TSUN-TING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAW CHI-KWONG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE TAM YIU-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE TANG SIU-TONG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LI FUNG-YING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HENRY WU KING-CHEONG, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL MAK KWOK-FUNG THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP THE HONOURABLE LEUNG FU-WAH, M.H., J.P. 4178 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 DR THE HONOURABLE LO WING-LOK THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAU PING-CHEUNG THE HONOURABLE AUDREY EU YUET-MEE, S.C., J.P. MEMBERS ABSENT: DR THE HONOURABLE LUI MING-WAH, J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG SING-CHI THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE MRS ANSON CHAN, G.B.M., J.P. THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION THE HONOURABLE DONALD TSANG YAM-KUEN, J.P. THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY THE HONOURABLE ELSIE LEUNG OI-SIE, J.P. THE SECRETARY FOR JUSTICE MR MICHAEL SUEN MING-YEUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS MR CHAU TAK-HAY, J.P. SECRETARY FOR COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY MR GORDON SIU KWING-CHUE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR PLANNING AND LANDS LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 4179 MR NICHOLAS NG WING-FUI, J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT MR DOMINIC WONG SHING-WAH, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR HOUSING MISS DENISE YUE CHUNG-YEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE TREASURY MR LAM WOON-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS MR STEPHEN IP SHU-KWAN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES MRS LILY YAM KWAN PUI-YING, J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND FOOD DR YEOH ENG-KIONG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR HEALTH AND WELFARE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY MR LEE SHING-SEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR WORKS MRS CARRIE YAU TSANG KA-LAI, J.P. SECRETARY FOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND BROADCASTING MRS FANNY LAW FAN CHIU-FUN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION AND MANPOWER MS SANDRA LEE SUK-YEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR ECONOMIC SERVICES MS ANISSA WONG SEAN-YEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE DR EDGAR CHENG WAI-KIN, J.P. HEAD, CENTRAL POLICY UNIT 4180 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MR RICKY FUNG CHOI-CHEUNG, J.P., SECRETARY GENERAL MR RAY CHAN YUM-MOU, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 4181 TABLING OF PAPERS The following papers were laid on the table pursuant to Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure: Subsidiary Legislation/Instruments L.N. No. Schedule of Routes (Citybus Limited) Order 2001 ....... 70/2001 Schedule of Routes (Kowloon Motor Bus Company) Order 2001............................................... 71/2001 Schedule of Routes (Long Win Bus Company Limited) Order 2001............................................... 72/2001 Schedule of Routes (New Lantao Bus Company) Order 2001............................................... 73/2001 Schedule of Routes (New World First Bus Services Limited) Order 2001 ................................... 74/2001 Schedule of Routes (North Lantau and Chek Lap Kok Airport) (Citybus Limited) Order 2001 ............. 75/2001 Other Papers No. 72 ─ AIDS Trust Fund 1999-2000 Annual Accounts together with the Director of Audit's Report No. 73 ─ Occupational Safety and Health Council Annual Report 1998-1999 No. 74 ─ Traffic Accident Victims Assistance Fund Annual Report by the Director of Social Welfare Incorporated for the year from 1 April 1999 to 31 March 2000 No. 75 ─ Securities and Futures Commission Approved Estimates of Income and Expenditure for the financial year 2001-02 4182 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Supply and Demand of Housing 1. MR SZETO WAH (in Chinese): Madam President, regarding the supply and demand of housing in Hong Kong, will the Government inform this Council of: (a) the estimated demand of local residents to be generated from various housing need components in each of the next five years, in the form of the tabular breakdown below; and Splitting ratio Number of Number of between households Number of Number of private public and generated (+) / housing flats public housing housing flats private housing Housing need components reduced (-) in demand flats occupied occupied flats occupied First marriages Re-marriages Divorces Legal immigrants from China Expatriates Splitting of unextended nuclear family households Splitting of extended nuclear family households Splitting of multi-nuclear family households Clearance of temporary housing areas and cottage areas Clearance of squatters Emergency, natural disasters and compassionate cases Redevelopment of public sector housing Redevelopment of private sector housing Adequately housed non-owner- occupier households in private sector Inadequately housed households Adequately housed public rental housing households Net outflow of Hong Kong residents LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 4183 (b) the area of residential land to be supplied as well as the respective estimated numbers of public and private housing flats to be completed, in each of the next five years? SECRETARY FOR HOUSING (in Chinese): Madam President, according to the current housing demand assessment in 1998, the average annual flat production requirement estimated for the 10-year period from 1997-98 to 2006- 07 for public and private housing is as follows: Public Private Total Total 457 000 343 000 800 000 Annual (average) 45 700 34 300 80 000 A list of accommodation generation rates, splitting ratios and flat production requirements for different components of housing need is at Annex. In 2001-02, we shall make available 38 hectares of land for private housing (including 13 hectares to be disposed of through private treaty grants) and 12 hectares for Private Sector Participation Scheme (PSPS). In the subsequent four years from 2002-03 to 2005-06, about 319 hectares of land for private housing and seven hectares for PSPS will be made available. This new land supply, together with redevelopments on existing sites, will help us to meet the long-term demand for private sector housing. The amount of new land taken up and the actual annual production of flats in any particular year will be determined by private developers on the basis of commercial decision. No estimate is available. In addition to the sites identified for the PSPS, about 110 hectares of new land have been earmarked for public housing over the same five-year period (2001-02 to 2005-06). These sites, together with redevelopment projects of the Housing Authority and the Housing Society, will be sufficient to meet estimated demand for public rental flats and subsidized home ownership flats. Total public housing production over the next five financial years is estimated at about 220 000 flats. Total private housing production over the next two years is estimated at about 58 000 flats: 28 000 in 2001 and 30 000 in 2002. No estimate is available beyond this period. 4184 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 28 March 2001 Annex Number of Number of Accommo- Housing Splitting ratio for households households Components of housing need dation demand public/private requiring requiring generation generated (no. housing flats public housing private housing rate (%) of households) (public:private) flats1 flats2 First marriages 82 ) 54:46 ) ) 31 300 16 900 14 400 Re-marriages 25 ) 54:46 ) ) Divorces 30 7 200 54:46 3 900 3 300 Legal entrants from Mainland 100 8 300 71:29 5 600 2 700 Expatriates 100 6 200 0:100 0 6 200 Splitting of unextended nuclear family 100 ) 27:73 ) ) household ) ) ) Splitting of extended nuclear family ) ) ) household ) ) ) 14 200 8 900 5 300 - young single-person households 100 ) 29:71 ) ) - elderly single-person households 100 ) 71:29 ) ) Splitting of multi-nuclear family 100 ) 84:16 ) ) households ) ) ) Clearance of temporary housing areas 100 2 800 100:0 2 800 0 and cottage areas Clearance of squatters 100 1 700 100:0 1 700 0 Emergency, natural disaster and 100 2 300 100:0 2 300 0 compassionate cases Redevelopment of public rental estates 100 7 700 100:0 7 700 0 Redevelopment of private flats 100 2 700 72：28 2 000 700 Inadequately housed households 100 7 000 72：28 5 100 1 900 Intersectoral transfers of adequately 0 -2 400 2 400 housed households - public housing 100 0：100 - private housing 100 100：0 Net outflow of Hong Kong residents 93 -1 500 19：81 -300 -1 200 1 In the housing demand model, the flat production requirement for public housing is assumed to be equal to the level of housing demand.
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