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OFFICIAL RECORD of PROCEEDINGS Thursday, 21 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 21 January 2021 3085 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Thursday, 21 January 2021 The Council continued to meet at Nine o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING, S.B.S., J.P. 3086 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 21 January 2021 THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN DR THE HONOURABLE JUNIUS HO KWAN-YIU, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HOLDEN CHOW HO-DING THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-FAI, J.P. THE HONOURABLE WILSON OR CHONG-SHING, M.H. DR THE HONOURABLE PIERRE CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHUN-YING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LUK CHUNG-HUNG, J.P. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 21 January 2021 3087 THE HONOURABLE VINCENT CHENG WING-SHUN, M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TONY TSE WAI-CHUEN, B.B.S., J.P. MEMBERS ABSENT: THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JIMMY NG WING-KA, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE YUNG HOI-YAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-KWAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LAU KWOK-FAN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LAU IP-KEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE CHENG CHUNG-TAI PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE MATTHEW CHEUNG KIN-CHUNG, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHAN MO-PO, G.B.M., G.B.S., M.H., J.P. FINANCIAL SECRETARY THE HONOURABLE TERESA CHENG YEUK-WAH, G.B.S., S.C., J.P. SECRETARY FOR JUSTICE 3088 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 21 January 2021 THE HONOURABLE JOHN LEE KA-CHIU, S.B.S., P.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY THE HONOURABLE FRANK CHAN FAN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING PROF THE HONOURABLE SOPHIA CHAN SIU-CHEE, J.P. SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH THE HONOURABLE EDWARD YAU TANG-WAH, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE HONOURABLE KEVIN YEUNG YUN-HUNG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION THE HONOURABLE PATRICK NIP TAK-KUEN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE THE HONOURABLE ALFRED SIT WING-HANG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY THE HONOURABLE ERICK TSANG KWOK-WAI, I.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER HUI CHING-YU, J.P. SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY MR SONNY AU CHI-KWONG, P.D.S.M., J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR SECURITY DR DAVID CHUNG WAI-KEUNG, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY DR BERNARD CHAN PAK-LI, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 21 January 2021 3089 MR ANDY CHAN SHUI-FU, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS DR CHUI TAK-YI, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH MR JOSEPH CHAN HO-LIM, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY DR RAYMOND SO WAI-MAN, B.B.S., J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MS ANITA SIT, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MISS FLORA TAI YIN-PING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MS DORA WAI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MR MATTHEW LOO, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 3090 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 21 January 2021 MEMBER'S MOTION PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): This Council now continues with the debate on the Motion of Thanks on the Policy Address. MOTION OF THANKS Continuation of debate on motion which was moved on 20 January 2021 DR JUNIUS HO (in Cantonese): Good morning, President. The Policy Address this year is … in the Sixth Legislative Council, we have been under the leadership of two Chief Executives and had held three motion debates on the policy address. We failed to hold a motion debate on the 2019 Policy Address. In my opinion, whether the Council conducts a debate on the Motion of Thanks is not very important, as it is merely a kind of formality. However, I hope the Government can improve any areas where it has not done so well and aim even higher in areas where it has a leading edge. This year (2021) is the fifth year of the extended Sixth Legislative Council, should we praise or criticize the Policy Address this year? I believe there are both areas for praise and criticism. In the first debate session, I would like to share my views on the implementation of "one country, two systems", national security, economic development, as well as innovation and technology in Hong Kong. Basically, we must pay special attention to these four areas. The implementation of "one country, two systems" has met with many barriers. However, as the saying goes "true gold stands the test of fire", the implementation of "one country, two systems" and the Basic Law over the past 23 years (now in the 24th year) has been taken forward very steadily. This has not only showcased to the world that Chinese people can manage Hong Kong well, but also manifested that Hong Kong has made a few important contributions to our country. Let me talk about the first contribution. When our neighbour Shenzhen was still a piece of agricultural land―Shenzhen had yet been established at that time, not to mention development―Hong Kong had already provided an opportunity for Shenzhen to develop. Upon the establishment of the Shenzhen Special Economic Zone in 1980 along with China's opening up, Hong Kong had acted as a mentor to Shenzhen, teaching Shenzhen how to pursue economic reform and bring into full play capitalism with global characteristics. Subsequently, the coastal cities of China followed in the footsteps of Shenzhen and opened up. Today, Shenzhen's GDP is higher than that of Hong Kong, LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 21 January 2021 3091 outperforming its teacher. This is the greatest contribution made by Hong Kong to our country. The second contribution is the restructuring of the Hong Kong economy from a labour-intensive one to a service-based one where people make money with wisdom. Hong Kong has also been world renowned for its financial service industry. In 2008, after 30 years of China's reform and opening up, WANG Yang, the then Party Secretary of the Guangdong Provincial Committee, said that it was time for the Guangdong Province to implement the policy of "emptying the cage for new birds". What does that mean? The real meaning is different from CHENG Chung-tai's theory of "emptying the case for new birds". He parroted what others said, giving a negative connotation to the policy. The policy of "emptying the cage for new birds" was to upgrade and restructure the economy of the Guangdong Province by developing tertiary industries, that is, service industries, so as to enable people to make money with wisdom. At that time, the service industries of the Guangdong Province accounted for around 50% of its economy; the objective was to attain a GDP contribution of over 90% from its service industries, as in the case of Hong Kong. In 2009, China established a special zone called Qianhai in the Shenzhen Special Economic Zone to assume a supporting role. China developed this "special zone within a special zone" based on the economic and financial model of Hong Kong. As I recall, representatives from the Standing Committee of the People's Congress of Shenzhen Municipality came to Hong Kong for a meeting. As the Vice-President of The Law Society of Hong Kong as well as the Chairman of the committee on Mainland affairs, I was honoured to participate in that work meeting in 2009. At that time, a group of leaders came to Hong Kong. They said resolutely that Qianhai would make contribution to GDP in 2019 and told us how they would develop the land covering an area of 15 sq km (i.e. 1 500 hectares). At that time, we met them in the west wing of the government offices building. While the guests sat at the outer ring on the left, we sat on the right. We joined the meeting in our capacity as professionals such as lawyers and accountants. At that time, I wondered if this awesome plan was feasible, and I had loads of questions in my mind.
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