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Interview with the Honorable Thomas J. Miller , 2011 Library of Congress Interview with The Honorable Thomas J. Miller , 2011 The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project AMBASSADOR THOMAS J. MILLER Interviewed by: Charles Stuart Kennedy Initial interview date: April 19, 2010 Copyright 2011 ADST Q: Today is the 19th of April 2010, with Thomas J. Miller. This is being done on the behalf of the Association of Diplomatic Studies and Training. And I am Charles Stuart Kennedy. Do you go by Tom? MILLER: Tom, yes. Q: OK, Tom, let's start at the beginning. When and where were you born? MILLER: I was born in Chicago on December 9, 1948. Q: Let's talk about your family. What do you know about the Miller side, your father's side of the family? MILLER: Well, it's a very small family. My dad was an only child, born in Detroit, had kind of an unhappy childhood. He was sent to military school in high school. Very tenacious. I knew my grandparents pretty well. Q: What were they up to? Interview with The Honorable Thomas J. Miller , 2011 http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001720 Library of Congress MILLER: They were from Detroit, and this is the hardcore, original Detroit. They moved on to Florida when I was a little kid, to St. Petersburg. My grandfather owned a hardware store. He was an accountant. He had gone to college. My dad had gone to college but never graduated; this was during World War II, so he dropped out of the University of Michigan. But my grandfather graduated from, I think, the University of Detroit. And by the time I was old enough to realize anything, they had moved to Florida and he opened a hardware store with his brother-in-law, which I am told never really prospered. My grandmother was an extremely domineering, very take-charge, very bossy kind of person. We liked her, when we were young. I have three other brothers, and so our memories are memories of childhood. And that was basically it. Q: How about on your mother's side? Where did they come from? MILLER: My mom is from Chicago. She's still alive. She's 86. My dad passed away in 2000, when he was 77. My mom had one brother. She was born to a very well-to-do family in merchandizing, stuff like that. They had a really, really big company. And she grew up in Chicago, went to private schools and all that kind of stuff. I knew both my grandparents there. My granddad on that side passed away I think right before he was 60. And my grandmother passed away when she was 97, about 13 years ago. She was a very nice lady. I remember her, obviously, a lot better than I remember my granddad. But he was a nice guy, from what I remember. Q: Did your mother go to college? MILLER: My mom went to University of Michigan, and that's where she met my dad, and they both dropped out to get married when my father enlisted. They got married in 1944 and they got divorced in 1976. Q: Did your father get involved in World War II? Interview with The Honorable Thomas J. Miller , 2011 http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001720 Library of Congress MILLER: Yes, my dad was a tech sergeant in the Pacific. He did radio stuff. And if I can just diverge for a second, I read many, many years later—it was actually right before I went over to Bosnia as ambassador in 1999—I read The Greatest Generation by Tom Brokaw. And I remember seeing my dad, and it turned out he lived in San Mateo at the time. After he divorced my mom, he remarried—he had been in love with one person his entire life, and this was a Japanese woman, and he married her in 1977. And they lived happily ever after until they both died. But I went and saw my dad in 1999, and it turned out to be the last time I ever saw him alive, right before I went to Bosnia. And I had just read Brokaw's book, and I asked him, “Why didn't you ever talk about the war?” He was one of that generation that came back and just resumed their lives or got on with their lives. And I expected some dramatic answer and he said, “You never asked.” He then proceeded for the next the hour and a half to talk, and my wife had a video and she took it all in. He told us about the war—and he was not a hero, he was just a normal grunt in the South Pacific. The sad thing is, when he died, we went to pull the video out to look at it and it had melted. So we don't have that record. I met Tom Brokaw in 2004, during the Olympics, and I told him that story. He did a piece on me for a feature at the NBC News entitled “Tough Guy from Chicago.” I was the ambassador there, and I told him this story and he asked me to write him a piece that he would put in an additional, one of the further editions, but he never did. Q: Did you grow up in Chicago? MILLER: I grew up in Chicago for the first five years—actually, in the Chicago suburbs. Q: Where? MILLER: Highland Park, which is on the North Shore. I think, when I was born, I'm not sure we lived in Chicago. I think the family lived in Highland Park or maybe had moved Interview with The Honorable Thomas J. Miller , 2011 http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001720 Library of Congress there very soon after I was born. And then we moved to New Orleans for four years, so my dad could—my mom's family was very wealthy, and he wanted to make his own mark. So he set out on his own to make his own mark in the import business, and we moved to New Orleans. And he joined a company and became a vice president eventually and did very well. And then he went back to Chicago after he had done his thing and showed that he could do it himself. We moved back to Glencoe, Illinois, which is one suburb south of Highland Park. And that's where I really grew up, in Glencoe. Q: Do you remember when you were in New Orleans? This would be when you five, about? MILLER: Five to nine, I think. Q: Do you remember growing up there? MILLER: Yes, I do. And I'll tell you, I remember snippets. I remember what a kid that age remembers. But I do remember segregation. And I remember not understanding but never questioning the white and black bathrooms and stuff like that. It wasn't something that a kid my age did. I remember that I went to public school one year—no, I went to public school two years, two different public schools and then a private school, and the private school was kind of ritzy, with all white kids. I think all of the schools were all white kids, if I remember correctly. But none of that stuff ever occurred to me. I just remember snippets, and much later, when I was old enough to realize what segregation was, I tried to think hard about it. I remember getting lost once, in New Orleans, when I was maybe six. I remember all the details. I was chasing my older brother and he was on a bike and I was walking, and he was with a bunch of friends. Anyway, I got lost, and I started crying, and a big, very heavy African American woman found me and took care of me. And when you're six years old, all I knew was my dad's first name, which Interview with The Honorable Thomas J. Miller , 2011 http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001720 Library of Congress was Bob, and his real name was Louis, and they couldn't find it in the phone book. And it took quite a while to figure out. I didn't know my address because we had just moved. Q: What was life at home like as a kid? We're talking about New Orleans. Your father— had he remarried at that point? MILLER: No, he was married to my mom for 32 years. And he was very do-it-the-right way. I don't think their relationship was that good. I don't think it was ever that good. But I was one of four boys, and we were totally into sports, and that's all we focused on. Sports and then later girls and all of the things you did in the '50s and '60s. So I can't say that I was tremendously aware of discord or anything else at home. I remember from the day that I can remember everything about sports. Baseball, football, all the sports. And my brothers and I, we all played and we were all pretty good. And that was our lives. Q: In the family, what religion were you, if you were, and how important was religion, would you say? MILLER: My family was Jewish, and it was not at all important and never was important. We went to Sunday school. I was confirmed, barely. I was kicked out for behavior problems but I think my parents paid some money—I don't know this for sure—and got me back in.
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