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Printed (by Authority) by CORRIE Ltd., 48 Bucks Road, Douglas, Isle of Man. REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS OF TYNWALD COURT Douglas, Tuesday, 20th October 1992 at 10.30 a.m. Present: Immigration (Fees) Order 1992. The President of Tynwald (the Hon. Sir Charles Kerruish, OBE). In the Council: The Lord Bishop (the Rt. Acquisition of Land Act 1984 - Rev. Noel Debroy Jones), the Attorney-General (Mr. T.W. Acquisition of Land (Fees) Order 1992. Cain, QC), Mr. R.J.G. Anderson, Mr. B. Barton, Hon. A.A. Callin, Mr. E.C. Irving, CBE, Hon. E.G. Lowey, His Town and Country Planning. Acts 1934 to 1981 - Honour A.C. Luft, CBE, Messrs. W.K. Quirk and J.N. Town and Country Planning (Fees for Applications) Radcliffe, with Mr. T.A. Bawden, Clerk of the Council. Order 1992. In the Keys: The Speaker (the Hon. J.C. Cain) (Douglas Property Repair and Modernisation Schemes - West); Hon. A.R. Bell and Mr. T.R.A. Groves (Ramsey); House Repair and Modernisation Scheme 1992; Mr. R.E. Quine, OBE (Ayre); Mr. J.D.Q. Cannan Property Repair and Modernisation (Conservation (Michael); Hon. H. Hannan (Peel); Mr. W.A. Gilbey Areas) Scheme 1992. (Glenfaba); Dr. E.J. Mann (Garff); Hon. D. North (Middle); Messrs. P. Karran, R.K. Corkill and G. Waft Insulation and Rewiring Schemes - (Onchan); Hon. B. May and Mr. W.D. Corlett (Douglas Roof Space Insulation Scheme 1992. North); Messrs. A.C. Duggan and D.C. Cretney (Douglas Residential Property (Rewiring) Scheme 1992. South); Messrs. D.F.K. Delaney and P.W. Kermode (Douglas East); Mr. A.F. Downie (Douglas West); Hon. Subsidy Schemes - J.A. Brown (Castletown); Hon. D.J. Gelling (Malew and Beef Cow Subsidy Scheme 1992. Santon); Hon. M.R. Walker, CBE, Hon. J. Corrin and Mr. Hill Cow Subsidy Scheme 1992. N.Q. Cringle (Rushen); with Prof. T. St.J. N. Bates, Clerk of Tynwald. Manx Decimal Coins Act 1970 - Manx Decimal Coins (Cat Crowns) Order 1992. Companies Acts :1931 to 1992 - The Lord Bishop took the prayers. Companies (Prescribed Stock Exchanges) Regulations 1992. BILL FOR SIGNATURE Financial Supervision Act 1988 - Banking Business (Compensation of Depositors) The President: We have one Bill for signature, hon. (Amendment No. 3) Regulations. members, and if you are agreeable we will continue our Banking Business (Compensation of Depositors) business while it is being signed. Thank you. (Amendment No. 4) Regulations. Design Right Act 1991 - Design Right (Semi-Conductor Topographies) Order ANNOUNCEMENT OF ROYAL ASSENT 1992. The President: I have to announce to the Court that Dogs Act 1990 - Royal Assent was given to the Transfer of Governor's Dog Licence (Exemption) Regulations 1992. Functions Act 1992 on 15th July 1992. Social Security Act 1982 - Social Security Legislation (Application) (No. 9) Order 1992. PAPERS LAID BEFORE THE COURT Pension Supplement - The President: I call on the Clerk to lay papers. Pension Supplement Scheme 1992. The Clerk: I lay before the Court: Merchant Shipping Act 1985 - Merchant Shipping (Safety Provisions) (Application) Policy Report 1992. Order 1992. Fees and Duties Act 1989 - Trade Marks Act 1938 - Bill for Signature Announcement of Royal Assent Papers laid before the Court T2 TYNWALD COURT, TUESDAY, 20th OCTOBER, 1992 Trade Marks (Cusforns) (Isle of Man) Order 1992. Extension of the International Cocoa Agreement to September 1993. Legal Aid Act 1986 - Legal Aid (Reniuneration) Regulations' 1992. International Road Haulage Agreement with the USSR. ' Draft, *Church• Legislation Procedure Bill 1992 ; RepOit of tii6 EeclesiaStical Committee of Tynwald on International Road Haulage Agreement with thetirifi Church Legislation Procedure Bill 1992. Czechoslovakia. Alternative Policy Group - International Road Haulage Agreement with • 'EdonOmic Policy -Doturnent of the Alternative Policy Hungary. Group. Peripheral and Maritime Regions of the EEC - ; ' PaYment of Members' Expenses' Act 1989 Report of the Isle of Man delegation to the Islands Payment of Menibers' Expenses (Specified Bodies) Commission of the Conference of the Peripheral and (Aniendinefit) (No. 3) Order 1992. Maritime Regions of the EEC 1992. - ( • ; Ba 1k Holidays Act 1989 Annual Reports and Accounts - Holi4Y&11993) Order 1992. Isle of Man Government accounts for the year ended 31st March 1992. 'Diseases of Aniinalt1Preverition) Acts 1948 to 1978 Manx Electricity Authority's annual report and Mo:fernent of Aninials (Restriction) (Amendment) accounts for the year ended 31st March 1992. Order 1992. Financial Supervision Act 1988 - 'TMerchaiit Shipping' Act 1985 Banking Business (Compensation of Depositors) Merchant Shipping (Official Log Books) Regulations Regulations 1991 - 1992:' Annual report and accounts of scheme manager for •Merchant –.Shipping (Navigational Equipment) the year ended 31st March 1992. ReiulatiOns'1992. Merchant Shipping '(Safety Manning Document) European Communities - Regulations 1992. Applicable European Communities secondary legislation for May, June, July and August 1992. Copyright' - • Copyright (Isle of Man) (Revocation) Order 1992. Copyright (Application to the Isle of Man) Order 1992. "'r - GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES — REVIEW — SALE TO PRIVATE SECTOR — QUESTION BY THE SPEAKER Appointed Day Orders CoMpaniei Act 1992 (Appointed Day) (No. 1) Order The President: Turning now to the Question Paper, hon. 1992. members, I call upon the hon. Mr. Speaker to ask the Church Act 1992 (Appointed Day) (No. 2) Order 1992. question standing in his name. Road Traffic (Amendment) Act 1992 (Appointed Day) (NO: 2) Order 1992: The Speaker: Mr. President, I beg leave to ask the Chief Minister: Iniernationar Agreements 'International Agreements whiclVithe Isle of Man Will you initiate a review of all major activities Government has requested to be extended to the Isle undertaken by Government with a view to determining those of Man during the period 1st April 1992 to 30th June activities which should be sold to the private sector with 100:= •r. • ' appropriate safeguards to protect the public interest therein? International Convention on Certain Rules concerning Civil Jurisdiction in /natters of The President: The Chief Minister. Collision. Mr. Walker: Mr. President, I have briefly discussed the intern'ational Convention for the Unification of suggestion in the question with my colleagues on the Council 'Certain Rules relating to Penal Jurisdiction in of Ministers and am happy to confirm that I am prepared matters of Collision or other Incidents of to accept the suggestion and will initiate the review Navigation. suggested. I should, however, stress that we have always made clear that we do not adopt a doctrinaire stance in International Convention relating to the Arrest of privatisation, so that we do not argue that privatisation or Sea-Going Ships. that public ownership is preferable. Each activity is judged on its own merits, and I feel sure that that is the right AgreeMent On the Conservation of Bats inEurope. approach. Extradition Treaty between the Government of the Mr. Karran: Y Eaghtyrane, would the Chief Minister United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern not agree that the public interest has not been served in the Ireland and the Republic of India. — United Kingdom through privatisation, and will he give Government Activities — Review — Sale to Private Sector — Question by The Speaker TYNWALD COURT, TUESDAY, 20th OCTOBER, 1992 T3 assurances to this hon. Court that before we proceed down Will you instruct the Treasury to draw up a suitable this road we will make sure that we do not end up in the rate rebate scheme as a matter of urgency? same situation as the consumers have suffered severely with water, gas and electricity in the UK? The President: The Chief Minister. Mr. Walker: I am sure, Mr. President, that there are Mr. Walker: Mr. President,: the Policy Report makes many experiences in the United Kingdom that we as an island clear that our financial resources arelikelY to be cOntrained can learn by and there have been some good and some bad over the next. year ,or two. Our eiplicit intention is to examples of privatisation. I think there are examples, I do maintain existing services and not embark on new think we have to learn by experiences elsewhere, and commitments which add to our ,general revenue costs. certainly, as I said before, we would judge each activity on Accordingly,,we have no immediate plans for a rate rebate its own merits and we would look to see that the public scheme and certainly will not be considering .any such interest is preserved. development in advance of the outcome of the 'Time For Change' consultative document produced by, the, Department Mr. Groves: Mr. President, would the Chief Minister of Local Government and the. Environment. not agree that there is a difference between selling assets of We do of course,,provIde through our.. social' security the Island to the private sector and looking at those services system a comprehensive package of assisted measures for which Government currently carries out which could those who are in need and there are ,on today's Agenda otherwise be carried out by the private sector, and will he proposals which will increase the assistance available to include that in his instructions to Government departments? residentially qualified retired persons. Where perSoni are on supplementary benefit, - their , rates, arer„ taken fttlly ,into Mr. Walker: Yes, I would certainly agree with the hon. account to determine -the housing element in their. benefit. member for Ramsey, Mr. President. Mr. Delaney: The question has been answered in the Mr. Delaney: Mr. President,