35th GENERAL PLENARY MEETING ASSEMBLY Monday, 13 October /980, THIRTY-FIFTH SESSION at 3./0 p.m. Offrcial Records NEW YORK CONTENTS victims and an act ofdiscrimination against the people of that country. Incidentally, is it not typical that only Agenda item): the Chinese Maoists have come forward openly in support Credentials of representatives to the thirty-fifth session of the clique? of the General Assembly (colltinued): 4. In February (h) Report of the Cr:ldentials Committee this year an official visit was paid to Kampuchea by the First report of the Credentials Committee 697 President of the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, Gustav Husak and a communique Preside.,,:!: Mr. Riidiger van WECHMAR adopted in the course of that visit states, inter alia: (Fedt:ral Republic of Germany). "The situation in Kampuchea remains unchanged. The People's Revolutionary Council of Kampuchea, which controls the whole territory of the State, is the sole authentic and legal representative of the Kampuchean AGENDA ITEM 3 people and the lawful seat of that country in the United Nations and other interna­ tional organizations Credentials of representatives to the thirty.rd'th session belongs to it alone." _(~f ~'!.~Ge~er~~ ~sse!!1bly (continued): 5. On the basis of this position, the Czechoslovak (b) Report of the Credentials Committee delegation objects to the recommendation that the General Assembly should recognize the credenti'lls FIRST REPORT OF THE CREDENTIALS of the representatives of the regime ofdarkness which COMMITTEE (A/35/484) was overthrown by the Kampuchean people. 6. My delegation once 1. Mr. HULINSKY (Czechoslovakia)(interpretation again from this rostrum today would like to make it absolutely clear from Russian): Once again, it is proposed that the lawful that we Gnvernment of Kampuchea is the People's Revolu­ should recognize a gang of murderers as possessing tionary the right Council of the People's Republic of Kampu­ to represent the people of Kampuchea in the chea, which exercises United Nations. That effective S:ate power throughout is both ridiculous and monstrous. the territory of its country Although one can hear, behind and is pursuing in its the scenes ofthe thirty­ external relations a policy of non-alignment, fifth session of the General Assembly, peace, voices saying friendship and international co-operation. that this is the last time that those in accord­ who initiated this ance with the Charter of the United Nations. "decision" will be able to attempt to have it adopted, my delegation has no intention of taking part in this 7. As can be seen from the telegrams of the Minister orchestrated farce. for Foreign Affairs ofthe People's Republic ofKampu­ chea, , dated 2. Ifinitially, immediately after the people ofKampu­ to and 13 September 1980, chea had overthrown [A/35/454 and A/35/455], that Government alone has the Pol Pot clique, some people the right could still count on the bewilderment to al.t on behalf of the Kampuchean people of world public in international affairs. opinion and on misinformation, today the essence of the problem we are facing is quite obvious to all. 8. Mr. PETROVSKY (Union of Soviet Socialist To extend even for a single day the presence within Republics) (interpretation from Russian): our Before Organization of private persons from the Pol Pot­ expressing the views of our delegation on the agenda group-which, in pursuing a policy of item under discussion, I should like, Mr. President, to genocide against the people of their own country, associate myself with your words of I;ondolence annihilated more .nan 3 million Kampucheans-is addressed to the Algerian delegation in connexion totally absurd. with the tragic natural disaster which afflicted the People's 3. It is useless to attempt to justify this conduct Democratic Republic of just a few by days ago. The legalistic exercises or lectures on the laws of physics Soviet delegation would like to request -which, incidentally, we did not hear the Permaneni Representative ofAlgeria to the United from some ofthe Nations, speakers before me during the many years when Ambassador Mr. Bedjaoui, to convey our the deepest sympathy Imperialistic militarists were sowing death inthe coun­ to the families of those who died tries of Indo- in their long-drawn-out and to the people and Government of Algeria at the aggressive great human war. Whether they like it or not, the decision proposed and material losses sustained because of the ~arthquake. in the first report of the Credentials Committee can be viewed only as an inglorious support for the geno­ 9. 'In connexi01l with the first report cidal regime of the Creden­ and a futile attempt to restore it in Kam­ tials Com'1littee' submitted to the General puchea, an attempt Assembly, that is unworthy of the United the'Soviet deleg~tion would like to make the following Nations, a desecration of the memory of the regime's statement.

697 A/35/PV.35 698 General Assembly-Thirty-fifth Session-Plenary Meetings 10. The Soviet delegation, reaffirming the position Nations, are living and it set forth in working in Kampuchea. It is 21. The the Credentials Committee, believes it worth drawing attention to to be necessary once that fact when one considers and princi again to state that it opposes the thaFwhen it was in power the Pol approval of the credentials Pot faction, which to the de of the "delegation of is'rriow, with, all its strength and without any people anc Democraltic Kampuchea". We should legal like to stress that basis, striving to keep its seat at the United Nations, United N Kampuchea can be represented only by a delegation dfM'e out of Kampuchea all representatives of the People's F duly appointed by the People's Revoluti

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It has embarked upon a policy of peace and Kal1 of the people by imposing a substitute Government by national reconstruction and the restoration of human ofP force of arms. So long as the people of Kampuchea of dignity and basic rights to all the Kampucheans. In out ope their own free will do not decide otherwise, the its iexternal relations it is pursuing a policy of co­ has Government of Democratic Kampuchea continues to operation and good releation~ with all countries, in sph€ represent the country. By no external interference, particular with its neighbours. It has gained wide ofo under any pretext, can the inherent sovereign right recognition and respect for its vigorous efforts to get of the people of Kampuchea be usurped. The practice Kampuchea out of the disastrous situation brought of usurping the rights of a sovereign people will, if about by the genocidal and inhuman clique of Pol Cou accepted, make all Members of the United Nations Pot. It therefore goes without saying that the creden­ co-o vulnerable to the use of force. Hence, by accepting tials ofpersons who represent nobody should be flatly and the recommendation of the Credentials Committee, rejected and the Government of the People's Republic peac the General Assembly will be reiterating its commit­ ofKampuchea, now officially recognized by a growing of tl ment to the basic principles of the United Nations. number of States, should take its rightful place in the 454, 34. Mr. BILINSKI (Poland): Mr. President, on United Nations. 47. F behalf of the delegation of Poland, 1 wish to join you 40. These are the considerations that led the Polish the Pe and all other speakers in extending to the delegation delegation, along with other sponsors, to submit the the so of Algeria sincere condolences on the latest disastrous amendment now before the Assembly [A/35/L.5]. Its Kamp catastrophe in Algeria. We were deeply moved when adoption would certainly be for the good of the people as its we learnt about the extent of the earthquake, which of Kampuchea and serve the interests of peace, co­ genuin took so many lives and caused enormous damage operation and security in South-East Asia. people to the Algerian population. 41. Mr. DASHTSEREN (Mongolia): Mr. President, 48. I 35. The Polish delegation has asked to speak in order at the outset I should like tojoin you and otherspeakers the Cr to put on record its serious reservations concerning in expressing deep sympathy and extending condo­ formal the recommendation contained in the first report ofthe lences to the people and Government of Algeria in accord Credentials Committee [A/35/484]. Not without strong connexion with the natural calamity that has befallen determ opposition on the part of some of its members, the the people and land of Algeria. ofStat Committee accepted the credentials ofrepresentatives 42. My delegation cannot accept the report of the Affairs ofthe regime ofthe so-called Democratic Kampuchea, Credentials Committee in its present form because, to the which has arrogated power. Eyen members of the paradoxically, it found in order papers issued to dential Committee who spoke in favour of the contested persons who pretend to represent the so-called Demo­ report credentials readily voiced their detestation of the cratic Kampuchea, which exists only in the minds of legal a conduct of and crimes perpetrated by the Pol Pot some people as a counterpoise to the People's Republic siderat clique in Kampuchea. In that latter regard, the delega­ of Kampuchea, whose legitimate Government, the memb€ tion of Poland fully shares their assessment of the People's Revolutionary Council, is the sole genuine posal corrupt regime. representative of the Kampuchean people. manda from it 36. In order to be consistent, however, we cannot go 43. The time has come to put an end to the iilegal along with the contention that those credentials should presence of the representatives of the non-existent 49. Ti be accepted because "they were technically in order" regime in the United Nations and to restore the Kampu­ sidered [ibid., para. /3] or "did not imply any judgement chean seat to its true representatives. the ChI concerning the legitimacy ofa particular Government" tioll of [ibid.; para. /5]. Were that the case, what would be 44. As is well known, the Pol Pot-Ieng Sary genocidal regime, which, upon instructions and with the encour­ fact be the over-all use of presenting the credentials of repre­ People sentatives of Member States to every General As­ agement of its hegemonistic masters, massacred in a most brutal manner over 3 million ofits own people, carry sembly? under 37. In fact, if it were only a matter of their technical was overthrown by the people long ago, while the leaders of that regime were sentenced to death by It is qu appearance, anybody could usurp the right to issue Counci credentials that are technically in order on behalf of the People's Revolutionary Tribunal of Kampuchea. The various manreuvres in imperialist, hegemonist countll numerous States Members of the United Nations. It ... the peo is easy to imagine the confusion and injustices that and other quarters to preserve the Kampuchean seat in the United Nations for the Pol Pot men by·any and is might henceforth prevail in our Organization. Like­ tional c wise, if the acceptance of credentials does not imply possible means are nothing but attempts to undermine any judgement concerning the legitimacy of a partic­ the process of the restoration of Kampuchea. 50. T ular Government, why then' does their unjustified 45. The People's Revolutionary Council established not apt acceptance by the Credentials Committee prevent the by the people of Kampuchea as a result of their has no sole legal representative of Kampuchea, the Govern­ overthrowing of the hated genocidal regime is in full In like ment of the People's Republic of Kampuchea, from control 0' lhe country's territory and has embarked externa taking its rightful place in the United Nation!>, an upon the peaceful rec()n.~~ruc!i.~!1 of the country. intema Organization which even has its own representatives 46. As was pointed out in the telegram from the withou in that country's capital. Minister for Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic sentati' the Pec 38.· Poland's position on the issue under considera­ of Kampuchea sent to the President of the thirty-fifth session of the General Assembly and the Secretary­ reality tion has been clear and unequivocal from the very presenc beginning. General of the United Nations: • 35th meetlng-13 October 1980 701 ltive "In the space ':"If 20 months, the People's Revo­ reprel3enting no one, who have, moreover, been found ncil, lutionary Council of the People's Republic of ~am­ to be criminals and enemies of the people and thus r its puchea, which enjoys unanimous support fro~ the justly sentenced to death in absentia, would amount and Kampuchean people, has swept away all the ha~nts to gross interference in the affairs of the People's man ofPol Pot and Ieng Sary within the country, sta1Jlped Republic of Kampuchea and an insult to and flagrant i. In out famine, revived agricultural production... , Fe­ violation of the sovereign rights of the Kampuchean co- opened schools, hospitals and pagodas-in a ~ord, people. l, in has brought about the rebirth of Kampuchea in.all 51. In view of the foregoing, my delegation, together wide spheres, economic, social and cultural, in conditions with other like-minded delegations, has submitted an I get of order and almost complete security. amendment to the draft resolution contained in the ught "In foreign policy, the People's Revolutionary first report of the Credentials Committee and com­ Pol Council of Kampuchea advocates friendship and me.nds it for adoption. den- co-operation with neighbouring countries, peace 52. Mr. RANDRIANANJA (Madagascar) (interpre­ [atly and stability in South-East Asia, and international tation from French): We were dismayed to learn that Iblic peace and security, in accordance with the principles the earthquake which devastated the town of El wing of the Charter of the United Nations." [See A/15/ Asnam, in Algeria, caused the deaths of several the 454, annex.] thousand persons and produced many other victims. 47. From the aforementioned it is quite evident that On behalf of the revolutionary power of Madagascar llish the People's Revolutionary Council of Kampuchea is and the compassionate people of my country, we the the sole authentic and lawful representative of the express our condolences to the Government and . Its Kampuchean people. Its internal measures, as well fraternal people of Algeria, to whom we are bound by I>ple as its external policy, are in full accordance with the many historical ties and by an affinity of ideals, in­ co- genuine interests and aspirations of the long-suffering terests and struggle. people of Kampuchea. 53. We were reluctant to take part in this debate ent, 48. In the view of my delegation, the mandate of -not because of a lack of conviction or indifference {ers the Credentials Committee is not limited solely to a to the People's Republic of Kampuchea, but because ldo- formal, technical task of classifying the credentials the States members of the non-aligned movement are 1 in according to their form and reporting thereon or divided on this question, as was demonstrated by the lien determining whether they bear the signatures of heads consensus reached at Havana, and because it was ofState ofGovernment or of the Ministers for Foreign agreed that a common position would be determined Affairs. Such a task could have easily been entrusted when the proper bodies of ilie movement had con­ the sidered the substance of the matter. lse, to the Secretariat. One of the main tasks of the Cre­ to dentials Committee, in our view, is to verify and 54. We feel we acted in accordance with our respon­ mo- report on whether the credentials are to be considered sibility i!1 advocating, at the sixth Conference ofHeads s of legal and valid. It is for these political and legal con­ of State or Government of Non-Aligned Countries, blic siderations that the General Assembly appoints nine held at Havana in September 1979, and at the thirty­ members of the Credentials Committee on the pro­ fourth session of the General Assembly the "vacant the seat" solution, which we continue to believe is the line posal of the President. The political nature of the mandate of the Credentials Committee is evident only valid solution if we wish not to become bogged from its composition. down in the confusion that is being fostered at will ~gal by certain circles. Since last year's debates the notions tent 49. The question of representation should be con­ of credentials, legitimacy, legality, recognition, IpU- sidered in the light of the purposes and principles of, representation and Member State have been treated ilie Charter. In deciding the question ofthe representa­ as interchangeable-although interdependent-ideas idal tion of Kampuchea, the General Assembly would in and, according to the viewpoint of each party, pro­ mr- fact be passing a serious judgement on whether the posals are put forward which are not always in accord­ [ in People's Revolutionary Council is able and willing to ance with the facts or with the political role of the I carry out the obligations of Kampuchea assumed pie, ,! General Assembly. i under Article 2 of the Charter of the United Nations. the I 55. There is even more real confusion, if one is by ; It is quite evident that only the People's Revolutionary willing to agree iliat it is difficult to find in the Charter, . J Council of Kampuchea exercises control over the lea. 1 in the rules of procedure of the General Assembly nist ::1 country's territory, enjoys not only the full support of and even in the jurisprudence of our Organization a .eat the people but recognition by a large number ofStates coherent set of rules in accordance with which we can any and is capable of carrying out Kampuchea's interna­ define in legal terms recognition of a State and repre­ I tional obligations. line .1 sentation of a State. Precedents are not lacking, but I one gets the impression that every past case has been \1 50. Therefore, on the international arena, any person ned I not appointed by the People's Revolutionary Council a special case, that the solutions adopted by the leir has no right to represent the Kampuchean people. General Assembly varied from case to case and that full lj In like manner, no problem affecting the internal or there are no common rules of universal applicability. ~ed external affairs of Kampuchea. can be resolved in any That is why we say that this· is a political problem :1 international bodies, including the General Assembly, going beyond the narrow framework of a technical without the participation of the duly appointed repre­ issue that should be disposed of before anything else the sentatives of the People's Revolutionary Council of is tackled. 'lic rl the People's Republic of Kampuchea. To ignore this 56. Consideration of the report of the Credentials ifth reality and, even worse, to allow the continued illegal Committee prompts us to make the following Lry- l' presence in the United Nations of some individuals comments. [;

.-';:" 702 General AssemblY-Thirtyofifth Session-Plenary Meetings 57. First, rule 28 of the rules of procedure provides interests, and in all honesty we should recognize that the Committee "sl.all examine the credentials of that the application of that criterion could constitute representatives and report without delay". Nowhere interference in the internal affairs ofthe Kampuchean is it stated that those credentials have to be accepted p,e9ple. But if such interference serves to make us or approved, and we express reservations regarding f~~e reality, truth and justice, is it not preferable to paragraph 15 of document A/351484, as the General tbat other kind of interference which consists in not Assembly is the only body empowered to approve the recognizing that the Kampuchean people has already credentials of Member States. made its choice? Indeed, it is not for us, at least in 58. Secondly, the work ofthe Credentials Committee these deliberations, to take a stand on the conditions has been performed in accordance with rule 27 of the in which political power in Kampuchea was assumed. rules of procedure. It has been stated many times 64. We have all tried to advance more or less tech­ that it is a physical examination of credentials, which nical and legal arguments. Experience, however, has is concerned only with the appearance and the form. taught us that it is not by rationalizat~on that we The technical validity of credentials is but one aspect have settled the question of the representation of a of the question, and it is regrettable that the practice State, but that we have had to bow to the will of of the Committee does not allow it to submit informa­ peoples, events and the course of history. It is high tion to the General Assembly that would enable it to time that we left the realm of unreality and put an take informed political dedsions. If that were done, end to a fiction. it would remove the ambiguity that might lead to the 65. Mr. NISIBORI (Japan): First of all, on behalf belief that it is sufficient to submit credentials in the ~he of the Japanese Government and people, I should like 'proper form to Committee for them to be approved to extend profound condolences to the Government subsequently by the Assembly. and people of Algeria in connexion with the recent 59. Thirdly, the Committee should have dealt with tragic disaster, which has caused heavy casualties the documents presented by the People's RepubHc of and damage. Coming as I do from a country very Kampuchea under item 3 of our agenda. Two delega­ often visited by earthquakes, I feel truly deep and 71 tions have mentioned these documents, but the Com­ heartfelt sympathy, in particular with the bereaved ac mittee itself seems to have ignored them. Hence we families of the victims in Algeria. fo have no way of knowing whether those documents 66. The first report of the Credentials Committee la werefound unacceptable, orfor what reason they were [AI351484] , as introduced by the representative of ha not formally brought to the attention of the members Costa Rica, recommends to the General Assembly st of the Committee.. that the credentials of the representatives of the 34 60. Fourthly, the credentials ofthe People's Republic Member States concerned be accepted. dr of Kampuchea not having been examined, we should m 67. My delegation has consistently maintained the se like to know whether consideration of the credentials position that the competence of the Credentials Com­ of the representatives of so-calleo Democratic Kam­ cr mittee is limited to ascertaining whether the creden­ se puchea was carried out according to the rules and tials submitted by delegations comply with rule 27 of took account of the conflicting' claims of the two the rules of procedure of the General Assembly. In 72 parties. That does not seem to be the case, and we can this regarC;, the first report of the Credentials Com­ be only conclude that the acceptance of the credentials mittee has my delegation's full support. tic of so-called Democratic Kampuchea is marred by .------_.' ex faulty procedure. 68. However, the amendment to the draft resolution ac submitted by some Members in document A/35/L.5 61. We dispute the circumstances in which the cre­ an singles out and repudiates the credentials of one AI dentials of so-called Democratic Kampuchea were delegation-namely, that of Democratic Kampuchea. considered and then declared valid. The delegation ot My delegation has no doubt about the validity of the so of the Democratic Republic of Madagascar cannot, credentials of the representative of Democratic Kam­ even in purely technical terms, accept them, and we puchea, which were issued by a legitimate Govern­ will vote in favour of the proposed amendment con­ ment and submitted to the Secretary-General in due ! tained in document A/35/L.5. In this regard, we must form, as is clearly stated in the Secretary-General's j recall that as far as we are concerned the approval memorandum of 19 September 1980. In our view, the ., of the Pol Pot regime's credentials is contrary to our delegation of Democratic Kampuchea is the only -:'1 original position in favour of the vacant seat formula, I legitimate representative of that country in the United I which was· endorsed by the non-aligned movement at Nations. :.1 Havana. -._------_.-.~_._._.. _._------69. It is self-evident that, by proposing the amend­ ,1 62. We hav€: been toldthat that would mean depriving ment, its sponsors intend to unseat the repre~~ntative a State ofits status as a Member and that we would of the Government of Democratic Kampuche.l in the be violating the provisions of the Charter. I should tj United Nations, with the eventual aim of seating a i like to assure those who hold that view that, like them, representative of the so-called People's Republic we support the principle of State continuity, but ofKampuchea. Although the legal effects of the -1o?,,­ recognition of the representation deriving from col­ tion of the amendment would be debatable, h. ny lective action by our Organization must pe based on delegation's view, what should be considered in voting \j ·objective, not discretionary, cr.iteria. on the amendment is that its adoption could be tlin­ 63. On more than one occasion in this debate the tamount to accepting the so-called vacant seat formula, which is unprecedented in United Nations history I· criterion of effective control has been advanced. [.··1· I~ Clearly, the Pol Pot r~gime does not.fulftl that cri­ and .is unacceptable, at least to my delegation. My I·j terion. This fact may not suit certain policies or delegation therefore cannot accept the am~ndment [ f 35th meeting-13 October 1980 703 recognize because that would result in undermining the creden­ 75, Hence, my delegation is able to subscribe to the constitute tials ofthe representatives of Democratic Kampuchea. report of the Credentials Committee, with the excep­ mpuchean The validity of credentials must be objectively and tion of the mandate of the Democratic Kampuchea make us impartially ascertained on technical and legal grounds regime, which exists only on paper. We share the ferable to alone, without consideration of a Government's concerns that have been expressed by the repre­ sts in not political orientation or policies. sentatives ofa number ofcountries and we recommend IS already that our Assembly act accordingly. it least in 70. In that connexion, my delegation feels it im­ :onditions portant to emphasize that Japan's endorsement of the 76. We should like to draw the attention of the assumed. credentials ofDemocratic Kampuchea on the technical Assembly to document A/35/L.5, which we have sponsored. It briefly reflects our position. We com­ less tech­ grounds to which I have just referred in no way implies any degree of support or approval of the mend it to the Assembly for adoption. That decision 'ever, has would bring justice to the , would dis­ I that we actions taken by the Government of Democratic Kampuchea in the past. Nevertheless, no matter how sipate all doubts and would pave the way for that Ition of a country's legal Government to return to its seat in the le will of deplorable the record of that regime may have been, any attempt to overthrow that regime through the Assembly, the only Government capable of dis­ It is high charging its international responsibilities under the Id put an intervention offoreign military forces is totally unjus­ tifiable. Furthermore, my delegation calls to the atten­ Charter of the United Nations, namely the Govern­ tion of Member States the fact that the repudiation ment of the People's Republic of Kampuchea. on behalf of Democratic Kampuchea's representation in the 77. We should like to repeat, forcefully, that it is ~ould like United Nations would involve the eventual recogni­ unpardonable to consider this matter purely as a legal vernment tion by the international community of the situation or procedural issue. It is a singularly political problem; ne recent in Kampuchea created by the military intervention of it has to do with either recognizing political reality :asualties foreign forces in that country. in Kampuchea-its successes, but also its inevitable ~try very difficulties-or giving international recognition to the deep and 71. The credentials of Democratic Kampuchea were sordid myth ofDemocratic Kampuchea, whose envoys bereaved accepted by a majority of Member States at the thirty­ in truth represent no one. fourth session of the General Assembly. During the last 12 months, the political situation in Kampuchea 78. Today we have heard statements from those ommittee who, while recommending that we accept the repre­ ltative of has not changed at all-Vietnamese troops remain stationed in that country in defiance of resolution sentatives of Democratic Kampuchea in our midst, <\.ssembly have felt-and not without reason-that they should s of the 34/22, which, inter alia, called for the immediate with­ drawal of foreign forces. Under th9se circumstances, disassociate themselves from the crimes of the Pol my delegation sees no reason why the General As­ Pot regime. What is the good of referring to positions lined the sembly should change its position by not accepting the previously taken against violations of human rights in .als Com­ credentials of Democratic Kampuchea for the current Kampuchea if the very people who have taken that : creden­ session. stand are today trying to defend-and thereby to ule 27 of justify-the positions ofthe Pol Pot group? To attempt :mbly. In 72. In the next few days, the General Assembly will to establish'some sort of moral capital on the basis als Com- be taking up once again the agenda item on the situa­ of the past is in vain. We cannot change the fact that tion in Kampuchea. At that time, my delegation will giving the Pol Pot regime the stamp of Assembly explain its views in greater detail, taking fully into approval would be tentamount to reconfirming the esolution account the elements contained in resolution 34/22 A/35/L.5 status ofthose who have murdered millions ofinnocent and in the draft resolution contained in document Kampucheans, and that, to say the very least, would i of one A/35/L.2, in the hope offinding, in co-operation with npuchea. not be in keeping with the spirit and letter of the other peace-loving nations in the world, a political Charter of the United Nations. We do not believe ty of the solution to this grave problem. tic Kam­ that anyone could convincingly dispute the basic Govern­ assertion I have just made, even if such a person were 73. Mr. RAtZ (Hungary) (interpretation from to have recourse to all the subtleties of formal logic. al in due French): To judge from the main thrust of the report 3eneral's by the Credentials Committee and from the statements 79. Mr. LIPATOV (Ukrainian Soviet .Socialist Re­ {iew, the we have heard, this is not a purely technical ques­ public) (interpretation from Russian): First of all, my the only tion. Itis a problem that affects the smooth functioning delegation wishes to associate itself with the deep and e United of our Organization and ho.w we are to be judged sincere condolences expressedfrom this rostrum to the by world public opinion. In a word, we are once again Algerian people following the tremendous loss of ~ amend­ in a situation that will directly test the authority and human life and the material damage caused by the ·~ntative the image of the United Nations. earthquake. Cd in the 74. I 'should like to inform the General Assembly 80. In connexion with the discussion of the report of leating a of the objections that we have regarding the report. the Credentials Com~ttee, the General Assembly Republic They concern the powers of the so-called delegation has once again hadits attention focused on the question he ~10r­ ofDemocratic Kampuchea. We, and a large number of of the representation of Kampuchea in the United ~,h. ny other countries, have on many occasions said that Nations. The General Ass~mbly is witnessing, as it in voting those who claim that they are the representatives of did last year, an attempt to impose upon it a decision I be tlln­ Kampuchea and its people are in fact only usurpers, approving the credentials'of the representatives·of the formula, envoys of the remaining members of the Pol Pot criminal Pol Pot regime. Efforts are under way to . history clique. And we are all familiar with the abominable preserve a situation that is totally unjustified either ion. My crimes committed by that clique against the unfor­ from the point of view of universally acknowledged endment tunate Khmer people. norms of international law or from the standpoint of 704 General Assembly-Thlrty-htih Session-Plenary Meetings simple common sense-a situation where in Kampu­ 86. Mr. NAIK (Pakistan): Mr. President, chea, for some years now, a lawful we wish to Government has associate ourselves with you in expressing deep grief been operating, while the seat of that country in the and United sorrow at the tragedy ofthe devastating El Asnam Nations is occupied by the perpetrators of earthquake in which violence and murder-the thousands ofourAlgerian brothers Pol Pot-Ieng Sary clique hlliY~' lost their lives. We wish driven out by the Kampuchean people. to convey our deep coqdolences and profound sympathy to the brotherly 81. The ge.luine facts show that the year that has people of Algeria and pray that they may bear the passed since the thirty-fourth session has been an grave loss suffered in this catastrophe with courage important period for the formation of the People's and fortitude. We also wish to express our solidarity Republic of Kampuchea. The authority ofits Govern­ with them in this hour of national tragedy. ment, the People's Revolutionary Council, which 87. The delegation ofPakistan takes enjoys widespread support among this opportunity the population, to qffer its comments on the first report ofthe Creden­ grew and strengthened. In spite of the tremendous tials Committee difficulties [A/35/484] as well as the amendment caused by the onerous consequences of to the report, [A/35/L.5]. many years of aggression by the United States and rule by the Maoist clique, the Kampuchean people, 88. It has been the firm position of principle of the step by step and unswervingly, have been achieving Government of Pakistan that external military inter­ success in restoring the economy and organizing vention to overthrow the lawful Government of a peaceful life. The normalization ofthe situation in the country constitutes a graye violation of the principles country is being promoted by the assistance given by of the Charter ofthe United Nations and the norms of some countries and by a number of international international law governing the rights and duties of organizations. States. These principles include respect for sover­ eignty, 82. Along with territorial integrity and political independence the efforts at stabilizing internal of other States political life, we can see a and the principle of the non-use of growth in the international force in international relations. authority of the People's Republic ofKampuchea. Its People's Revolutionary Council, which is pursuing a 89. We approach the question of the credentials of foreign policy ofindependence, peace, friendship and the delegations of Kampuchea and Afghanistan from mutual understanding, has already been recognized that policy of principle. We can neither recognize nor by many countries and' liberation movements. The acquiesce in the legitimization of situations which are Kampuchean people and its Government are striving the outcome of foreign military intervention. Such to establish relations of durable friendship and co­ intervention cannot be justified in any circumstances operation with all countries in South-East Asia on the or on any grounds, moral or political. basis of the principles of respect for sovereignty, non-intervention 90. With regard to Kampuchea, while Pakistan in internal affairs and the resolution deplores the of disputes by peaceful means. brutalities committed by the Pol Pot Administration against its own people, we 83. are orthe Only the People's Revolutionary Council of view that considerations of human rights cannot be Kampuchea is entitled to represent the People's Re­ invoked to justify a foreign military public intervention. of Kampuchea in international affairs. The Accordingly we uphold the right of the delegation of Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic whole-heartedly Democratic Kampuchea to continue to supports represent the point made in the telegram of 10 Sep­ Kampuchea in this body. Moreover, because of the tember from the Minister for Foreign Affairs of the continuing presence of foreign troops in Kampuchea, People's Republic ofKampuchea, Mr. Hun Sen, which we do not find it possible to support the amendment states: contained in document A/35/L.5, which seeks to confer "No problem affecting Kampuchea legitimacy on a consequence offoreign military inter­ can be re­ vention. solved in any international body, the United Nations General Assembly included, without the participa­ 91. In consistence with the same position of prin­ tion ofduly appointed representatives ofthe People's ciple, the delegation of Pakistan Revolutionary wishes to place on Council of the People's Republic of record its reservations concerning the credentials Kampuchea." [See of . A/35/454, annex.] the representatives of the Kabul authorities to the thirty-fIfth 84. We can by no means consider well founded the session of the General Assembly. Pakistan .... position of those delegations which, in wordsat least, has maintained this position at the sixth emergency ,. condemn the policy of genocide and unprecedented special session last January and also on subsequent occasions. : atrocities committed by the pathological sadists and It may be recalled that in its resolution murderers which is what the Pol Pot regime ES-6/2, the General Assembly declared that the foreign was for armed its people, while on the other hand they refuse the intervention in Afghanistan was a clear violation lawful representative of the Kampuchean of the Charter ofthe United Nations and called for the people, immediate which threw off the yoke of their tyrants, the right unconditional and total withdrawal of the l/J to participate in the work of the United Nations. foreign troops from Afghanistan in order to enable its 'A people to determine their 1] 85. The Ukrainian own form of government delegation is a sponsor of the and choose their economic, political and amendment under consideration social systems and vigorously free from outside intervention, subversion, coercion objects to the recommendations in the first report or constraint of any kind ofthe Credentials whatsoever. I therefore I1 Committee to accept the credentials tAke this'opportunity to reiterate that of the Pol Pot my delegation's regime. Such decisions by the General non-ob~ection to the participation ofthe Kabul I Assembly can only undermine delega­ !. the international tion in the work of the thirty-fIfth session of the I'· authority and prestige of I our Organization. General Assembly should not be construed as con- I f j~ ill!! Q #1,1 £i ..22!!1 a;t1J

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.. .._I!IIIIII__a •••• •••II.!•••_m:!!!!'!!!.I!!!!I.__ nm_~~~"";;4;!!l!l';ffi§l$·V!4.M§! 35th meetlng-13 October 1980 707 117. If we were to accept the reactionary arguments 124. Mr. KAMANDA WA KAMANDA (Zaire) (in­ of some countries, then c,ne might as well do away terpretation from French): The delegation of Zaire with those norms of diplomatic convention that guide would like at the outset tojoin you and othel' speakers, international affairs. I ,~i Mr. President, in extending our sincere condolences 118. Indeed, history 'has a way of vindicatingjustict~. to the brotherly Government and poople of Algeria I do not doubt that one day the true and legititrlate and to the families which have been affected following Kampuchean delegation will be seated here in 'the the unjust and cruel fate which has befallen their United N..tions. Until that time, if the for,ces,cbf people. We would like to assure the Government and imperialism insist on supporting the Pol Pot-Ieng Siiry people of Algeria of our full solidarity duriniJ this clique, then this matter will be one more on thelallg difficult time. list that divides us. It is tragic that some ceutiUies 125. At the thirty-fourth session of the G'~ral see danger where none exists and fail to see the real Assembly, everyone had an opportunity to . A forth enemy until it is too late. his views and put forward arguments regarding the 119. Mr. SARRE (Senegal) (interpretation from theory of authority. By adopting resolution 34/22, the French): The delegation of Senegal would like first of General Assembly took a stand on the matter and all to express anew its sincere condolences to the recognized the validity of the credentials of Demo­ Algerian delegation following the earthquake which cratic Kampuchea. has plungeu the fraternal people of Algeria into 126. The delegation ofZaire has carefully considered mourning. the first report of the Credentials Committee [A1351 120. In the course of our last session, the delega­ 484]. The draft resolution regarding the credentials of tion of Senegal voted in favQur of accepting the cre­ the representatives and the recommp.ndations of the dentials of the delegation of Democratic Kampuchea, Committee to the General Assembly were, we are whose country continues to be the victim of foreign told, adopted by the Committee without having been military invasion and occupation. This year again, the put to the vote. That means, then, that there was a delegation of Senegal will be voting in favour of the broad consensus in tlie Credentials Committee in recommendations ofthe Credentials Committee which favour of recognizing the validity of the credentials of are contained in document A/351484. These recom­ all countries represented here, including Democratic mendations are not only in keeping with rule 27 of Kampuchea, the more so since all the members of the the rules of procedure, they also reflect the feelings Committee who had any comments to make haC; the ofthe majority ofthe international community towards opportunity to make such comments. The recom­ the legal Government of Democratic Kampuchea. mendation seems especially appropriate because, These recommendations also express the general re­ since the thirty-fourth session of the General As­ probation of the majority of the international eom-· sembly, nothing new has been brought forward to munity regardin!7 the use of foreign intervention with call into question the validity of the credentials of the the aim of imposing one's will on a sovereign State. States represented here. In the time from the sixth emergency special session to the thirty-fifth session 121. The delegation of Senegal is ofthe view that the of the General Assembly, including the seventh General Assembly should not endorse the conse­ emergency special session and the eleventh special quences of foreign armed intervention which has session, the international community has continued forced the legal Government of Kampuchea to evac­ to recognize the validity of the credentials (If all uate its capital. This armed intervention is not only States present at the thirty-fourth session, including contrary to the purposes and pd'lciples ofthe Charter, Democratic Kampuchea, as well as the credentials of but, ifcondoned, could well set a dangerous precedent. new-admitted countries. Such a precedent could contribute to the growth of insecurity in the world and in particular in the small 127. Where was the regime of People's Kampuchea countries. at the time ofthese sessions of the General Assembly? Why did it disappear during tn::lt period? And why 122. Furthermore, the delegation ofSenegal does not has it suddently appeared again today? Was it not believe that removing the legitimate Government of aware of the strength of the position of Democratic Kampuchea from our Orga.nization· would be in the Kampuchea under international law? interest ofa peaceful settlement of the present conflict . . in Kampuchea. Such an ac:t would not promote a 128. The delegation of Zaire· believes that, in com­ negotiated settlement which,. it must be recognized, parison with the report of the Credentials Committee to the thirty-fourth session of the Gen~ral Assembly, j requires the full and entire participation of the !~git­ imate authorities ef Democratil'" Kampuchea. whose recommendation, as everyorte knows, was adopted by the majority cf members following a vote, 123. For these reasons and because those who still the present report marks an extremely positive de­ occupy Kampuchea have so far not made even the velopment. Matters could not have been clearer and slightest gesture towards withdraw:ng their troops, my Committee members did not consider it necessary delegation will vote against the amendment contained to proceed to a vote and the report is quite clE:ar on in document A/35/L,5. Such an amendment goes this subject. It says that no delegation expressed any against the resolutions of tbe General Assembly m~ opposition. Kampuchea. Moreover, it promotes neither the elimi­ 129. The delegation u 1.,aire therefore supports the nation of the consequences of foreign aggression, nor recommendation of the Credeiltials Committee wl)ich a just ;:;ettlement of the conflict which would make it appears in paragraph 18 of document A/351484. possible for the people ofKampuchea freely to choose their own Government and pursue the policies oftheir I See Official Records of the Genera! Assembly, Thir!y-fourth choice. Session, Annexes, agenda item 3. document A/34/S00. - l' IFii 768 General Assembly-Thlrty.IJlfth SessIon-:-Plenary Meetings i 130. The credentials of the delegation of Democratic 136. Did the victorious Powers of the Second World that the General A I Kampuchea were issued in accordance with rule 27 War launch their armies against tIitler and the Nazis ofthe credentials 0 of the rules of procedure of the General Assembly because they were exterminat~ag Jews or because Kampuchea. and since, in the ey"s of the international community thliy..wished to impose their domination and Aryan 142. Democratic and in conformity with General Assembly resolution s~.H~~maey on other nations? Article 2 of the Charter the United Nation 34/22, the Government which issued them is the o~;I~he United Nations forbids interference in the tives have been legitimate Government of Kampuchea, the fact of its i~~f;~al affairs of other States and the threat or use relevant rules ofth having been overthrown by foreign troops ofinvasion o~. fwee against the territorial integrity or political order and complet and occupation does not strip it of that legitimacy ind'eRendence of any State, or in any other manner by all the previous nor of its other attributes. inctID. sistent with the purposes of the United Nations. They were accep DORyman rights relieve certain States Members ofthe 131. The delegation of Zaire has noted with surprise special session as U nl~ed Nations oftheir responsibilities under Article 2 special session and the amendment in docLlmerit A/35/L.5 which certainly ofdie Charter? The reasons that are being put forward goes against the report of the Credentials Committee~ were concluded n tOO2"'y in favour of r~cognition of the regime installed mittee of the curr That amendment suggests that we approve the first by the troops ofinvasion and occupation in Kampuchea report of the Committee, except with tegard to the accept the credent' are not all the same as those advanced during the thirty­ Kampuchea and h credentials of the representatives of Democratic fourth session of the General Assembly. Kampuchea. Representatives will see that that amend­ to the Gp..neral A ment suggests th~' "1e General Assembly take a stand 137. That alone proves the emptiness ofthose claims. relevant provisio contrary to the s~ .t and letter of its resolution 34/22' It seems that some countries are getting into the habit, Nations and the of 14 November 1979. Indeed, rejection of the cre­ increasingly, of justifying their aggressions and inva­ Assembly, the As dentials of the representatives of Democratic Kampu­ siom; by Jeclaring that they were either called to help and approve the re chea, a legitimate Government overthrown and driven the people concerned to defend their right to self­ 143. Democratic from power by foreign troops ofinvasion and occupa­ determination or had signed a treaty offriendship with neutral and non-ali tion, is an attempt, if not directly at least indirectly, the regime which they had set up through the use 'of ment of Democ to win endorsement for the Phnom Penn regime ~et force. Has the United' Nations ever recognized a government of up by the foreign troops of invasion and occupation, national liberation movement of Kampucnea led by Samrin regime is against the will of and without prior consultation with Heng Samrin, so as to enable him today to claim Nam after its invas the people and scorning the principles ofinternational legitimacy by virtue of the right to self-determination? in no way r~prese law which govern relations among States. What State represented here can say that it has no typical agent ofthe problems and what is going to happen in the world, credentials of De 132. The delegation of Zaire has always felt that what will the future of international relations be if rejected, would itn legitimacy is to be determined by the people and cannot we all allow ourselves to act similarly vis-a-vis our in which the Unit be granted by the United Nations to a government neighbours? Does the signing of a treaty of friendship at any State la~mc imposed on a people by foreign troops of invasion and co-operation with a regime that they have set against a small an and occupation. up relieve the aggressive invading troops of occupa­ flimsy pretext an tion in Kampuchea of any responsibility for their in~taUed 133 We have all been moved by statements about regime at actions? guarantee would t violations of human rights by the Pcl Pot regime, but 138. If the course to anarchy is opened in this way, sovereignty of we that is not the' po~nt at all. The point is whether a some countries whic•• h'ck the means to do so today 144. One of the g(.lvcrnment has the right, for any reason, to invade will surely permit themselves such liberties tomorrow . ,:"other State, overthrow the legally established tionallaw is the de when they are in a position to do so, because we can sovereignty and te government and by force set up a government sub­ all of u§ find interests to be defended or safeguarded. i servient to it. In Zaire, we say "no" to such a proposi­ J outside aggression tion, and it is fortunate indeed that many Members of 139. This world ofanarchy and this return to the law aggression agains the United Nations also reply "no". 0: the jungle which is proposed by some with as­ serious breach ofi tounding irresponsibility regarding our common oritur is an inesca 134. That is a dangerous trend that must be stopped, obligations to pe.ace, survival of the world in harmony j In challenging the a trend towards the politicization of human rights for and peaceful coexistence among peolpes with different tives of Democr purposes of destabilization. The day when those who economic and political systems, are notiON that we U~~ authorities want t have recelltly discovered their vocation as defenders in Zaire categorically reject. Quite obviously the , ~ the door to all ac of human rights send their troops in against the white General Assembly, out of (espect for the principles iJ aggression. In so minority regime ofPretoria, will be the day when they' Oil which the United Nations is based and the many 'j·~ upon the norms g convince us that they do not intend to use human resolutions and declarations adopt::.d for the promotion I rights as a permit to intervene in the affairs of other of peace ao\}nternational security, cannot condone 145. At its thirty­ Assembly adopte States or to violate the principles of non-resort to the invasion of and aggression against Kampuchea by !~"* force or the peaceful settlement ofdisputes, which are correct resolutio accepting the amendment in document A/35/L.5. It unconditional wit enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations. is in that spirit that we will reject this amendment and vote against it. forces from Kam 135. As everyone knows, many countries-there year the Vietname really is a great number ofthem, and justly so-which 140. Mr. LING Qing (China) (translation from the United Natio defend the credentials of the representatives ofDemo-. Chinese): First ofall, I should like, in the name of the notonly continued cratic Kampuchea have not had any special relations Chinese delegation, to express profound sympathy to chea, but wantonl with the Pol Jot regime, at least that is true of the the Algerian Government and people for the tremen­ mining peace an Republic of Zaire, For our part, we are interested in dous damage they have suffered because of the recent. present, drawing 1 maintaining the foundations of peace, international earthquake and to extend sincere conrlolences and Government ofDe security and confidence in international relations. We regards to the afflicted families. its policies and is want to defend the principles' of the Charter of the 141, The Chinese delegation endorses the first report and people in the United Nations. of t~e Credentials Committee and firmly maintains namese aggressor 35th meetlna-13 October 1980 709 that the General Assembly should confirm the validity growing. Their just struggle has made important con­ ofthe credentials ofthe representatives ofDemocratic tributions not only to their own national survival and Kampuchea. independence, but also to the maintenance of peace 142. Democratic Kampuchea is a State Member of and security in South-East Asia. Therefore, in de­ the United Nations. The credentials of :LS represeutll­ fending the legitimate rights ofDemocratic Kampuchea tives have been subm;tted in accordance with' 'tb..e in the United Nations, the aim is not only to uphold relevant rules ofthe United Nations. They are ie gO,od the basic principles ofthe Charterofthe UnitedNations order and completely valid. This has been confrrirted and international law, but also to safeguard peace by all the previous sessions of the General Assembly. and stability in South-East Asia. The~ were .accepted again at the sixth emerge~cy 146. The Vietnamese authorities have put forward SpeCIal sessIon as well as at the seventh emergency some preposterous arguments in their renewed attempt special session and the elevent~i special session wh.ich to nullify the ci'edentials of the representatives of were concluded not long agl}. The Credentials Com­ DemQcratic Kampuchea. They say that the seat of mittee of the current session has rightly decided to Kampuchea in the United Nations should be given to accept the credentials ofthe delegatio~ of Democratic the Heng Samrin regime because it has "controlled Kampuchea and has accordingly submitted its report the territory of the whole countrv". The fact is that to the Gp..neral Assembly. In conformity with the t'1e Government of Democratic K.~mpuchea is leading relevant provisions of the Charter of the United the Kampuchean army and civilians in waging effec­ Nations and the rules of procedure of the General tively a heroic war ofresistance against the Vietnamese Assembly, the Assembly should consider favourably aggressors in vast areas within Kampuchea. The so­ and approve the report ofthe Credentials Committee. called Heng Samrin regime is far from controiting the 143. Democratic Kampuchea is an independent, whole Kampuchean territory. And it is not tile Heng neutral and non-aligned sovereign State. The Govern­ Samrin regime, but the 200,000 and more Soviet­ ment of Democratic Kampuchea is the sole legal armed Vietnames<:l aggressor troops, who are tempo­ government of Kampuchea. The so-cal1ed Heng rarily occupying Kampuchean cities. Without the Samnn regime is a mere puppet installed by Viet prop of the Vietnamese aggressor troops, the Heng Nam after its invasion ofKampuchea. That regime can Samrin puppet regime could not survive a single day. in no way r~present the Kampuchean people but is a According to viet Nam's logic, would it not be "legit­ typical agent ofthe Vietnamese authorities. Ifthe valid imate" for Hitler to have occupied and controlled for credentials of Democratic Kampuchea were to be a time the capitals and portions of the territories of rejected, would it not constitute a dangerous precedent, some European countries and for Israel to keep in which the United Nations would abet and connive large tracts of Arab territories under its occupation at any State [aunching armed attacks and aggression today? against a small and weak neighbouring State cn any 147. The Vietnamese representative has openly flimsy pretext and then imposing upon that State a advoeated leaving the seat of Kampuchea vacant. His regime in~talled at the aggressor's bayonet point? What purpose is simply to pave the way for introduGing the guarantee would there be for the independence and puppet Heng Samrin into the United Nations find thus sovereignty of weak and small countries? to legalize Viet Nam's aggression against Kampuchea. If such a view were accepted, would it not be tanta­ 144. One of the fundamental principles of interna­ d~fence mount to offering Kampuchea to the Vietnamese tionallaw is the ofthe national independence, aggressors as a reward for their armed invasion of sovereignty and territorial integrity ofall States against another Member State in violation of the Charter of outside aggression ap1 ~nterference. Viet Nam's armed the United Nations'! aggression against Kampuchea constitutes a most serious breach of international law. Ex i,yuria jus non 148. In order to nullify the valid credentials of oritur is an inescapable principle of international law. Democratic Kampuchea and cover up its own features In challenging the valid credentials of the representa­ of aggression, Viet Nam has also invented tl:e myth tives of Democratic Kampuchea, the Vietnamese that "China is using Democratic Kampuchea for authorities want the international community to open expansion". As everyone knows, China has not a the door to aH acts of interference, subversion and single soldier on the soil of Kampuchea, nor does it aggression. In so doing, they are flagrantly trampling have any territorial claims against &lly other State, upon the norms guiding international relations. whereas Viet Nam is stationing more than 200,000 aggressor troops in Kampuchea and is menacing the 145. At its thirty-fourth session last year, the General security of its neighbours. If Viet Nam really had no Assembly adopted by an overwhelming majority a ambition to control Kampuchea and to commit further correct rellolution calling for the immediate and expansion in South-East Asia, why has Viet Nam thus unconditional withdrawal of Viet Nam's aggressor far refused to withdraw all its aggressor troops from forces from Kampuchea. However, over the past Kampuchea so as to allow the Kampuchean people year the Vietnamese authorities, refusing to implement to decide their own destiny by themselves? the United Nations resolution on Kampuchea, have not only continued their military occupation ofKampu­ 149. In view of the foregoing, the Chinese delega­ chea, but wantonly invaded Thailand, seriously under­ tion categorically rejects the ameildment submitted by mining peace and stability in South-East Asia. At the Vietnamese delegation on the credentials of the present, drawing lessons from its past experience, the representatives of Democratic Kampuchea and firmly Government ofDemocratic Kampuchea has readjusted maintains that the General Assembly should approve its policies and is leading the patriotic armed forces the repOrt of the Credentials Committee as ~+ stands. and people in the resistance struggle against the Viet·· 150. It must also be pointed out that the Soviet namese aggressors, and their strength is constantly invasion of Afghanistan and ~he Vietnamese aggres- 1

710 General Assembly-Thirty-fifth Sesslnn-PIenary Meetings sion against Kampuchea are part and parcel of the with a case of contested representation, instead of eajoying the c Soviet strategy of a southward drive. Both are naked weighing the different communications as ought to be Kampuchean J aggression against independent sovereign States in done in a case like this, the Credentials Committee, efforts to resto gross violation of the Charter of the United Nations pressured by certain delegations, which, regrettably, famine, augmet and the norms guiding international relations, posing happened to make a majority, has recognized as valid families and ens a serious threat to international peace and security. the credentials of certain individuals who are circu­ the economic, We deem it necessary to reiterate: the military occupa­ latingon the premises ofthe United Nations, with the breathe with r tion ofAfghanistan by the Soviet Union is unacceptable expenses for their activities coming from a well­ people's power and the fact that Mr. Dost of Afghanistan has been known major Power. country. A neVl permitted to participate in the thirty-fifth session of 156. It is this development that prompts my delega­ of Kampuchea the General Assembly should in no way be interpreted tion to express its unqualified and unreserved support . nation-wide co as acquiescence in the situation created by the Soviet for the amendment contained in document A/35/L.5, 160. The fore armed intervention in Afghanistan. so ably introduced by the representative of the Lao Kampuchea is i51. Mr. YUSUF (Bangladesh): At the outset, I People's Democratic Republic, Ambassador Sourinho promotion of c should like to join the President ofthe General Assem­ [34th meeting], which is meant to rectify this unten­ ularly with its n bly, on behalf of the Government and people of able situation. My delegation wishe... to join the ofpeaceful coei Bangladesh, in expressing our hearttelt sympathy and sponsors of this amendment. peace and frier extending our condolences to the Government and 157. Thf' issue we are now faced with is a very clear the Charter of fraternal people of Algl~ria on the tragic loss of life and simple one, providing we abide by normal human to the fact th and property resulting from the devastating earthquake logic and t~e principles and norms of international Republic ofKa that struck parts of Algeria recently. law. First of all, it is well known that States, not the country's established by 152. In the view of the Bangladesh delegation, the Governments, are Members of the United Nations. It Government ofDemocratic Kampuchea is a legitimate is a fundamental requirement that everyone who claims 161. The ado Member of the United Nations. The credentials of the right to a seat in the United Nation!> must establish document A/3 the Government of Democratic Kampuchea to the a dear mandate emanating from the Member State. question of Kat General Assembly, as contained in document A/35/484, In our case, the Member State is Kampuchea, which Nations but it are therefore in order. We believe that the Government has defined territorial borders, population, capital and first and nece! of Democratic Kampuchea is the legal and lawful Gov~rnment, that is, all the attributes of the notion hope the Asse government ofthe country, which is under the occupa­ ofa State, and whose full name, as is also well known, do otherwise VI tion offoreign troops. We also maintain that all foreign following the 1979 revolution, is the People's Republic Pol Pot clique, troops in Democratic Kampm:hea should immediately of Kampuchea. a basis for th( withdraw in order to allow the people of Kampuchea 158. Secondly, each and every Member State, as co-operation in freely to decide their own destiny. stipulated in Article 4 of the Charter of the United goal of the Uni Nations, is required not only to accept the obligations 162. Mr. FRA 153. Bangladesh has always opposed armed interven­ ~ tion or the use or threat of use of force to settle any contained in the Charter and to be willing to carry . shocked New dispute. It is in this context that we have urged upon out these obligations but also to be able to do so. tragedy in Alget all concerned to withdraw all foreign troops from Therefore the question posed to us now is which subjected to ea Democratic Kampuchea so that its people can deter­ Government is in a position to employ the resources destruction and ofthe Member State, that is, the People's Republic of I ask the Alger mine their own destiny without interference of any •••, kind whatsoever, external or otherwise. This prin­ Kampuchea, and direct the people of that country in ofAlgeria the v cipled stand by Bangladesh is in accordance with the the fulftlment of the obligations of membership. The people. Charter of the United Nations and the principles and answer to that question is clear. There is no way for 163. The dut objectives ofthe non-aligned movement. the genocidal clique of Pol Pot to be the Government consider the c in question, a·clique whose remnants, supported 154. Mr. KOSTOV (Bulgaria): Mr. President, allow determine whet and assisted by imperialist and hegemonistic forces, considers that me first of all to join you and previous speakers in ar~ doing their utmost to fuel the hotbeds of tension done it well. : expressing to the people and Government of Algeria South~East in Asia. Those remnants cannot speak on observed, is no our most sincere sympathy aild condolences on the behalfofthe Kampuchean people, much less authorize e~thquake judgements abl tragic which caused the loss of so many anyone to represent them at the United Nations; for its part, the . human lives. it is a long-established rule that nobody can delegate condone the po 155. My delegation has carefully studied the report powers which he does not himself possess. The truth Kampuchea. 1 is that this criminal regime has been overthrown, ofthe Credentials Committee nowbeforeus [A/35/484]. repress!ve; the I cannot but express the regret we. feel at the fact divested of authority and chased out of the country But that is not that the Credentials Committee, when considering the by the Kampuchean people, and no one can deny that the Government exercising effective administration 164. New Zel communications. for· accreditation, failed to examine of the report 01 properly, withthe objectivity and impartiality required, over the country and able to implement the Charter the credentials of the representatives of one Member obligations is the Government in Phnom Penh, that is, 165. We cons State, namely, the People's Republic of KaIIlpuchea. the People's Revolutionary Council. Furthermore, the A/35/L5 is not Hence, that prejudiced approach has tainted the Cre­ regime ofPol Pot and leng Sary did not simply violate in particular b' dentials Committee's recommendation 'to the General human rights or·have a bad record in that respect Nations [ASEA Assembly contained in paragraph 18 ofthe report. My as some of the previous speakers wouI'd have it; it in Kampuchea. delegation cannot accept this recommendation, since has committed one of the most monstrous crimes tions are to be the COnullittee, in Kampuchea's case, was ~ot able to against humanity, namely genocide, a crime that is chea will be at consider in depth the communication dated 10 SepteuJ­ outlawed by international law. without extern; ber 1980 from the Minister for Foreign Affairs of the 159. For 20 months now .the Government of the principles ofth( People's Republic of Kampuchea [A/35/454]. Faced People's Revolutionary €'Ouncil, a Government vote against th 35th meeUng-13 October 1980 711 eajoying the confidence and support of the entire 166. Ms. GONTHIER (Seychelles): Before I begin, Kampuchean people, has been exerting the utmost I should like to express my country's deepest sympathy efforts to restore the destroyed economy, overcome to the President, Government and people of Algeria famine, augment agricultural output, reunite separated for the tragedy they are experiencing. families and ensure medical services-in short, to make 167. As I tum from the pains of a natural disaster, the economic, social and cultural life ofthe country let me remind representatives of the human disaster breathe with renewed vigour. Local centres of the in Kampuchea before its liberation. people's power have been set up throughout the whole country. A new Constitution of the People's Republic 168. The Republic of Seychelles has recognized the of Kampuchea has been published and submitted to People's Revolutionary Government of Kampuchea nation-wide consideration. as the sole legitimate and real representative of the people. Th' reasons are quite simple: today anyone 160. The foreign policy of the People's Republic of with a minimum of intellectual ir'tegrity does not Kampuchea is oriented towards the development and contest the fact that Pol Pot's regime was savage and promotion of co-operation with all countries, partic­ murderous. Everybody agrees that around 3 million ularly with its neighbours, on the basis ofthe principles people were brutally murdered under his regime. ofpeaceful coexistence, non-alignment, independence, Those who were not victims were slowly dying of peace and friendship among nations, in keeping with hunger and terror. No one disputes the fact that the the Charter of the United Nations. These facts testify people breathe again following their liberation. News­ to the fact that the Government of the People's papers and magazines which cannot be considered Republic ofKampuchea exercises effective power over leftist talk about the alleviation ofthe misery to which the country's territory and meets all the criteria the people were subjected. International opinion is established by international law. relieved to see that the brutal regime has been put to 161. The adoption of the amendment contained in an end. document A/35/L.5 will not solve completely the question of Kampuchea's representation in the United 169. If the people of Kampuchea feel that they are Nations but it will have a salutary effect, being the adequately represented" and world opinion recognizes first and necessary step to resolve this problem. I that the Revolutionary Council has been playing a hope the Assembly will support the amendment. To positive role in saving the people and rebuilding the do otherwise would mean to support the overthrown country, in whose name and for what does this Orga­ Pol Pot clique, the major impediment to establishing nization-which is supposed to be above bloc and a basis for the maintenance of peace, stability and partisan interests-refuse to seat the Penple's Revo­ co-operation in South-East Asia, which is the ultimate lutionary Government of Kampuchea? goal of the United Nations. 170. From this Assembly the legitimate representa­ 162. Mr. FRANCIS (New Zealand): May I say how tives of the people of Kampuchea are excluded. We shocked New Zealanders were to hear of the ghastly believe that one' cannot, as so many representatives tragedy in Algeria. As people who also live in a country have done from this rostrum, invoke the presence of subjected to earthquakes, we know something of the Vietnamese troops in Kampuchea to justify the exclu­ destruction and suffering those disasters cause. May sion of the People's Republic of Kampuchea from I ask the Algerian delegation to cenvey to the people our Organiza.ion without, on the one hand, interfering ofAlgeria the very deep sympathy ofthe New Zealand in the internal affairs of those two States and, on the people. other hand, reopening the frontiers of Kampuchea to Pol Pot and his army of butchers. 163. The duty of the Credentials Committee is to consider the credentials submitted to it in order to 171. That is why the Repl'iblic of Seychelles believes determine whether they are in due form. New Zealand that the People's Revolutionary Government of considers that the Committee has done that job and Kampuchea must be allowed to take the seat which done it well. ::he Committee, it has been correctly belongs to it in this Organization, to the exclusion of observed, is not a tribunal; it is not its function to make the representatives of the Pol Pot regime, who in no judgements about the policies of a government. For circumstances should benefit from the tolerance or its part, the New Zealand Government does not complicity of our Orgarnzation. We therefore do not condone the policies ofthe Government ofDemocratic accept the report of the Credentials Committee in its Kampuchea. Those policies have been brutal and present form and have sponsored an amendment. repress!ve; they have grossly violated human rights. 172. In conclC::3ion: the Republic of Seychelles is a But that is not what the credentials issue is about. non-aligned country. Our policy in foreign affairs is 164. New Zeland will vot~ in favour of acceptance above bloc interests. We strongly take issue with those of the report of the Credentials Committee. who today accuse our country of being a communist one and in the USSR camp. I politely and respectfully 165. We consider that the amendment in document suggest that representatives deal in facts and not A/35/L.5 is not helpful to the efforts now being made, manufacture falsehoods to substantiate their claims. in particular by the Association of South-East Asian Nations [ASEAN] countries, to promote a settlement 173. Mr. ROA KOURl () (interpretation from in Kampuchea. Such a settlement is essential ifcondi­ Spanish): Let me flfst extend to the Permanent Repre­ tions are to be created in which the people of Kampu­ sentative of Algeria my delegation's deepest condo­ chea will be able to choose a government fre~ly and lences on the terrible catastrci-'he which has aftlicted without external interference, in accordance with the his country in El Asnam. We share the grief and principles ofthe Charter. New Zealand will accordingly suffering of our Algerian brothers and would request vote against the proposed amendment. their delegation to convey our feelings of sorrow and "P J I 712 General Assembly-Thirty-DOh Session-Plenary Meetings 'I profound condolence to their Government and to the hand in glove with the new mandarins in Peking and like to re families of the victims. their friends in South-East Asia-with whom they I chean pe 174. Since last year, the General Assembly has been joined forces in the past for the aggression launched tives p against Viet Nam, and Kampuchea-in sup­ faced with an attempt at miracle-working, an attempt 187. So to have us accept as an actual fact a political fiction porting the right of those who commit genocide to sit and some of the worst type: the recognition of the credentials notin the dock but in the supreme organ of the world I justificati of a non-existent regime, the so-called Democratic organization. sidered t Republic of Kampuchea. 182: "Tell me who your friends are and I will tell 'I Kampuc 175. Everyone knows that it is merely a Chinese yoW who you are" says an old Spanish proverb. No entitled t invention, but in spite of the fact that the magicians oni can be deceived as to who the supporters of is suppo P6I Pot are and what are their true motives. ofCathay wield the age-old power to transform fantasy j I democrat into fact, this time we cannot allow the representatives 183. It may be that some will insist on permitting the and they of the barbaric Pol Pot to be foisted on us as a meek representatives of Pol Pot to continue to usurp the question and lily-white rabbit pulled out of the hat of interna­ rights of the Kampuchean people in this Assembly I enjoys w tionallaw. through an anti-historical and unjustified decision. This 188. Su 176. Even those who, invoking a strange logic is not the first time, as the Assembly knows, that a day will fiction has survived for a certain time in this Organi­ nverwhel obviously at odds with the truth, support the presence I in the General Assembly of the usurpers of the legit­ zation. But the important thing is that the Pol Pot I and thati imate rights of tlte People's Republic of Kampuchea clique has once and for all been swept out of Kampu­ ! not conti feel compelled to repudiate the crimes of Pol Pot. chea and it cannot re-establish its reign of terror over I present that long-suffering people. ,i j imperiali 177. Of course, that conduct-rejecting Pol Pot but supporting the abominable participation of his repre­ 184. Consequently, my delegation hopes that respon­ 189. Th presentatives in the United Nations-seems to us to sible Members ofthe United Nations will categorically "·1 prevent t be strangely inconsiste!lt, and indeed practically and emphatically reject the presence of the Pol Pot here in schizophrenic. Itis in no way different from the absurd representatives in the United Nations. make In position maintained for 20 years by the imperialist Mr. von Wechmar (Federal Republic of Germany) from be Powers and their allies with regard to the restoration resumed the Chair. I peace ca .-. - .._- .. __ ._-- _. I active an of the legitimate rights of the People's Republic of 185. Mr. AL-HAMZAH (Democratic Yemen) (inter­ i China. i, People's pretation from Arabic): First of all, I should like to }! can be a 178. Ironically, the occult conductor ofthe orchestra ,1 express our deep sympathy to our brothers in Algeria "1 to partici which is executing this new political aberration is the in connexion with the tragedy which the Algerian !, sentative representative of a Government which was discri­ people have suffered as a result of the recent earth­ hall. miOlltedagainst for 20 years. Perhaps this is the price quake, which has caused such great damagein material ;1 ofhaving confused Marxism with Confucianism and and human terms. We reaffirm our brotherly solidarity 190. In the ,>ocial revolution with the stereotypes of the little with the people ofAlgeria, and ask the Algerian delega­ \j support fc ii red book~t~ '''great helmsman". tion to convey our sympathy and our condolences ii 19t. Mr :,j to the families of the deceased. ',.1 Socialist How~ver ---~ 179. that may be, my delegation cannot --- - . - -- . - :,j :"i delegatior become an accomplice in similar infringements of the 186. The procedural issue with which we are now i.,1 rights of independent sovereign States. confronted in the General Assembly has an important public to political aspect. We support the amendment [A/35/L.5] i1:1 sincere c( 180. Nor can we confuse the purely technical pro­ which has been submitted with regard to certain facts i-I Democra cedure-we would even say bureaucratic procedure­ '1 natural Committ~e that cannot be denied. We, like many other countries, 'I followed by the Credentials with the sub­ consider that the representatives who are among us I, Algerian stantive problem, which that procedure ignores: the have no legitimate backing or recognition from the I many cas fact that the credentials of the delegation of Pol Pot Kampuchean people. The true representatives of our I We ask t were not sent by a Government in power and do not friends the people of Kampuchea are those iFil power lences to apply to any State; nor Cll,n its spokesmen claim author­ in Kampuchea, since the existing regime is the only to the be ity over even a millimetre of Kampuchean territory. true representative ofthe interests ofthe entire K8mpu­ 11 192. Th In any case, the Committee could have verified the f] chean people. I refer to the legitimate Government of 1~1 delegatio fa,_ =that the blood of the Kampuchean people spilled the People's Republic of Kampuchea, led by the United N by PolPot bad obviously stained the bits of paper People's Revolutionary Council, which is recognized ;j which are presented to us as the credentials of a ofthe pro by my country and with which we enjoy friendly .~ in the U Member State. relations. These· representatives should be in our ~~ ofthe wit 18t. My delegation could not, without betraying its midst so that we may listen to their views. It is indeed 1979 ov principles, accept as representatives of the People's regrettable that, so far, the seat of Kampuchea has regime. Republic of Kampuchea the implacable butchers of been occupied by the representatives of the Pol Pot the Kampuchean people: first, because it recognizes regime, which has imf)osed a and terrorism 193. Ka the only legitimate Government of that country, on the people, genocide being a predominant feature Nations headed by Comrade Heng Samrin, and, 'secondly, of its policy. That is an unjust situation and that of its pe because it has never joined and will newr join those group should be denied the right to represent the the Peopl whohave always been sworn enemies ofthe revolution Kampuchean people. That would be in accordance 194. Th in Indo-China. The imperialists, who waged awar of with the win of the Kampuchean people, who over­ Kampuch destruction unprecedented in its dimensions in the threw the Pol Pot regime and established the current the peopl countries ofIndo-China and encouraged the systematic progressive regime. While expressing our support for taking en destruction of all forms of life in that area, are today the amendment which bas been submitted, we should througho ~.:H"' T__------c.. ..., '1 35th meeting-13

"succe§ses" achieved by their accomplices in terrorist the sixth and seventh emergency special sessions and resol acts ag~inst the people of Kampuchea. the eleventh special session of the General Assembly. and t 199. We should like, from this rosturm, to ask those No cogent and legal case has been made against the freed correctness of its credentials. No valid argument has who are continuing to support, directly or indirectly, 212. the illegal and inadmissible presence here ofthe repre­ been put forward to· justify such a drastic move as tlicf unseating of the legitimate representatives of a of t sentativ.es of the Pol Pot-Ieng Sary clique, which aggr represents no one-indeed, no one even knows 'Member State by the international community. ~®.: beco where its members are-what their present activities This is precisely because the root cause of the This could possibly have in common with the purposes present difficulties in that country, which the resolu­ East and principles of the United Nations. tion was designed to resolve, still exists. Democratic 213. 200. At the present time there can be no doubt that Kampuchea is still illegally occupied by foreign troops; its people are still unable fully to express their will. State the slander which has been disseminated from this as w rostrum against the Socialist Republic.· of Viet Nam 207. We maintain that, unless the people of Kampu­ of A and any verbal justification of the Credentials Com­ chea are enabled, by some international agreement the s mittee's recommendation on the representation of freely to express their will and their desires on the aggre Kampuchea, not to mention approval of it, are tan­ matter of whether to maintain the governance of but, tamount to encouraging the continuing crimes of Democratic Kampuchea or to change it-we have no cons the rump of the Pol Pot clique, do moral and material legal or moral right to change that people's representa­ by a damage to the interests of ~he Kampuchean people, tion in the United Nations. We all know that delega­ migh of peace and of the United Nations and help to tions come and go; with every change we presume an ultim maintain the existence ofa threat to peace and stability internal event in the expression of a people's will. in South-East Asia. Change caused by external aggression is anathema 214. there 201. On the basis ofthese considerations, the delega­ to all ofus, for it not only would be against the princi­ ples of the Charter of the United Nations but would to de tion of the Byelorussian SSR became a sponsor of denig the proposed amendment [A/35/L.5] to the draft reso­ set back the clock to the dreadful days of imperialism and colonialism. occa lution recommended by the Credentials Committee, hum the effect of which amendment would be that the 208. A moral argument has been put forward by the If th credentials of the Pol Pot clique would not be rec­ proponents of the change with respect to Demccratic ical, ognized. The adoption of this amendment, we are Kampucnea. Let us just for the moment admit the Kam profoundly convinced, would promote a soundly based gravity of this accusation, that the regime of Pol Pot politi and just solution to the problem of the representation is guilty of the most heinous crimes against its own of Kampuchea in the United Nations, and the sooner people. 215. Heng that is solved the less will be the damage done to the 209. Notwithstanding that, in the 35 years of the pt'estige of the United Nations. ofK history of the United Nations, never have the cre­ feren 202. Mr. ROMULO (Philippines): My deLJation dentials of a Member State been nullified because groun wishes to join our colleagues in the Assembly in its Government was found guilty ofviolations ofhuman form extending the deepest sympathy to the Government rights. Were that argument to stand, how many delega­ cidal. and people.of Algeria in the terrible catastrophe which tions would be here today to uphold that lofty princi­ feren! has befallen their country. Coming from a country ple? Is there any provision in the Charter of the there subject to frequent earthquakes, as is the Philippines, United Nations that would link membership in this KamI we fully understand and share in the sufferings of the body with the performance of a Government in rela­ use 0 Algerian people. We are prepared to support measures tion to its people? place adopted by the international Organization to help 210, Perhap~, it might be said, this is a defect in the mate alleviate the problems of the Algerian people in their Charter which needs correction at some future date. hour of need. 216. The Philippine delegation has, in fact, been advocating coun 203. For the second year running an attempt is being some changes in the Charter, but at the moment histo made to challenge the legitimacy of the delegation of I do not see anyone rushing forward to amend the foiste a Member State and. its·right to represent.that State Charter in this connexion. Until it is amended, I do nanc .in the General Ass~mbly on th,e ground thatis has not see how we can expel a delegation on the ground regim lost itsright to that seat. Were itnot for the passage that the Government it represents is not very good legiti ofresolution 34/22 in the General Assembly last year, to its people. own that attempt would appear to be normal. But, because 211. Nevertheless, there is indeed a moral issue at in th that resolution is igrioredby the parties concerned, thep the attempt is a blatant exhibitio.n of tlte .disdain and stake here, one that is defmitively spelt out in the Charter. It is the issue ofmorality in relations among their contempt with which some Mem))er States of the prese United Nations look on the decisions of this body. States. The principal issue here is aggression, aggres­ sion against a State and a people by another State. It or, if 204. That attempt should be sufficient proof that is an issue on which the United Nations has declared 217. those Member States regard resolution 34/22 as illegal. itself fully competent to pass judgement and to take wate Therefore, by the same token, the attempt to unseat decisions so as to resolve il. We are here concerned know Democratic Kampucheaisillegal.· . with a basic principle .of international morality and have 205. . It is evidentthat the credentials ofthat Member international Illw, that of non-intelference and non­ mO!!l State are in order, as they were a year ago. Nothing intervention in the affairs of a State by another State regim has changed since then to war:rant a change in our and respe&t for its sovereignty and territorial integrity. ment decisi.on last year to sustain the .right of Democratic It is the open violation of this principle in the case of Kam Kampucheato its seat at the thirty-fourth session, Democ11ltic Kampuchea that caused the passage of State er 35th meeting-13 October 1980 715 ms and resolution 34/22 and brought us to this debate today at Geneva, voted in the Sub-Commission on Preven­ iembly. and that continues to threaten the peace, stability and tion of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities Dst the freedom of the entire region of South-East Asia. ' against a resolution calling for an inquiry into human ent has Ti:J~ 212. Let there be no equivocation about the gqW'i~y rights violations in Kampuchea. What then were the love as fine achievements of the Pol Pot regime? Why were ~s of a of this moral issue. No nation today can commit aggression against another without other nati.Q~s the socialist States not concerned with the human becoming embroiled, either wilfully or inadverte~~y. rights violations in Kampuchea? And then, so'on after, : of the This happens everywhere today-in Asia, in the MiClHte why did Viet Nam see fit to send troops across the resolu- East and in Africa. 'r~' border into Kampuchea? Was it because of those locratic human rights violations? Evidently not, because Viet troops; 213. In the present case, not only two neighbowing Nam was installed in the Human Rights Commission ,will. States are involved but other neighbouring countries by three memj)ers, including the Soviet Union. as well: all the members of ASEAN-five countries Campu- of Asia representing 250 million people-China and 218. It appears that the Pol Pot regime fell into dis­ eement the super-Powers. There are ominous signs that'the favour with Viet Nam because i.t would not sign a on the aggression against Kampuchea is not an isolated event treaty with Viet Nam which would have permitted ,nce of but, as some say, the beginning stage of a larger the presence ofVietnamese troops inside Kampuchea. tave no conspiracy which would replace an older imperialism That became clear when, on 18 February 1979, after 'esenta- by a new version in which small and weak nations the invasion, the Heng Samrin regime signed a treaty delega- might be forced to play the role ofpawns, proxies and, of pt:ace, friendship and co-operation with Viet Nam ume an ultimately, victims of international power politics. that permitted it to keep its forces inside Kampuchea. 's will. And there they remain today: 200,000 Vietnamese athema 214. In its larger dimensions the problem must troops. princi- therefore be treated as primarily political. This is not to deny that there are humanitarilio"1 aspects to it or to 219. An argument used here today to justify aggres­ : would sion by Viet Nam was that the Vietnamese were :rialism denigrate their importance. But there will be another occasion when we can address ourselves fully to the "invited" by the Kampuchean people to intervene and humanitarian issue, just as we have done in the past. overthrow the Pol Pot regime and thereby to let in by the If the humanitarian is inextricably linked to the polit­ 200,000 Vietnamese troop 11. As we all know, as in Iccratic ical, it is also true that the humanitarian problems of another celebrated case also ~n Asia, Pol Pot himself, mit the Kampuchea are not likely to be alleviated until the as head of the only Government then in place, could Pol Pot political issue is satisfactorily resolved. hardly have been the one to "invite" the Vietnamese its own to come in and overthrow him. The Vietnamese 215. By their arguments, .those who insist on the invasion began on 25 December 1978. It was not until Heng Samrin regime as the "legitimate" Government J:muary 1980 that Heng Samrin was presented to the of the of Kampuchea seek to justify intervention and inter­ world as the "liberator" of Kampuchea and the head ne cre- ~; ference in the affairs of other States on humanitarian of the "leg~" Government of Kampuchea. lecause grounds. Their main argument is that the Government 'human formerly headed by Pol- Pot was inhuman and geno­ 220. If we were to give credence to that argument, i delega- .~ cidal. On this ground they maintain that non-inter­ if we were to concede that a country is justified in princi- ference would be' shameful and a betrayal. They intruding into another and unseating its Government by of the ". therefore have the right to interfere in the affairs of claiming that it was called in to do so by the people in this Kampuchea, forcibly eject its Government by the of that country, then no country, no regime repre­ in rela- use offoreign troops and install a puppet regime in its sented in this Assembly, is safe. place. Such a regime, they maintain, becomes legiti­ 221. Another argument used here was that the inva­ t in the mate by that act. sion of Kampuchea was necessary in order to save 'e date. 216. That we cannot accept. As a small and weak South-East Asia from the so-called Chinese threat. ocating country that has experienced many invasions in its That is equally tendentious. As an observer from a noment history and has had the experience of puppet regimes Member State of ASEAN puts it: "The way the Viet­ :od the foisted upon us by the invaders, we cannot counte­ namese are going about saving South-East Asia from d, I do nance a repetition of history. Even if such puppet the Chinese threat justifiably alarms us". When, in ground regimes adopt the mask of benevolence, they are not June 1980, the Vietnamese forces entered Thailand y good legitimate until the people themselves, acting of their and wreaked death and destruction within thatcountry, own volition, accept them. That has not yet happened that same observer commented: "The Vietnamese ssue at in the case of the Heng Samrin regime. We urge that are intent on fighting the Chinese threat anywhere in the the people ofKampuchea be given a chance to expre§s except on Chinese soil". among their decision, freely and without the intimidating 222. Let us recall that it was Viet Nam itself that aggres- presence of200,000 alien troops, to accept that regime most vigorol1sly objected, at the time ofthe VietNam or, if they wish, another of their own choice. itate. It . .. war, against the argument that that war was being eclared 217. The moral argument, therefore, aoes not hold fought to save South-East Asia from a Chinese and a to take water. The excesses of the Pol Pot regime were well Soviet threat, charging that it was ~erely a cover for Icemed known throughout the world. Viet Nam could not an imperialist design. During that war Viet Nam ity and have failed to know about them. But precisely at that maintained strong fraternal ties with China, receiving Id non- mO!!lent Viet Nam was congratulating the Pol Pot much aid from it and expressing et~rnal gratitude for :r State regime for its "big success" and its "fine achieve­ that aid. Today what does Viet Nam say? "A billion tegrity. ments". Three months before Viet Nam invaded Chinese will be onour cloorst~p for eternity." The case of Kampuchea, on 15 September 1978, three socialist Minister for Foreign Affairs of Viet Nam, on 30 May sage of States, the Soviet Union included, on Human Rights 1980, linked the presence of Vietnamese troops in 716 General Assembly-Thirty.flfth Session-Plenary Meetings Kampuchea with th~' so-called Chinese threat and, up to its ideals offreedom, equ~ty, and independence since China and Viet Nam will be neighbours for consistently, forcefully and without compromise. eternity, that means the Vietnamese troops will be in 227. We have before us the sorry spectacle of an Kampuchea for eternity. impoverished and war-ravaged COUL:ry, its people 223. As for the argument that I heard here today, starving, diseased and stricken by a calamity brought tt.at we; the countries concerned, the countries of OD by forces and ideologies from abroad, unable to ASEAN and ofAsia, wish to foist the genocidal regime speak for themselves, because, to compound their of Pol Pot once again on the Kampuchean people, m~sery and subjugation, there are upwards of 200,000 let us be clearas to the historical record.' Itis supremely alien troops among them. We see before us a flagrant ironic to say that we wished the Pol Pot regime on the violation of human rights and of the Charter of the Kampuchean people. That is simply absurd. Those United Nations, a defiance of its decision arrived at who now make the ch~;ge are also those who accused I~st year to uphold that Charter and to rescue the us of aggression when we were trying to assist in Kampuchean people from their depths of despair. In saving regimes in Indo-China from being overwhelmed, the name ofdecency, in the name ofcivilization itself, as indeed they were, by the new tide .of imperialism let us all stand fast in our resolve not to allow the that in reality now threatens us anew. tragedy of the Kampuchean people to deepen. Let us defend in these halls the right of that people to live 224. Let us be clear: we had no desire to foist Pol and die in peace, freedom and dignity. Pot on the Kampuchean people; nor do we have any desire today to foist Pol Pot on the Kampuchean 228. In the last analysis, the real issue is the Charter. people. But that, to us, is irrelevant and peripheral of the United Nations. There is no other issue. A to the issue at hand. It is the desires of the Kampu­ technical point has, when we examine it more dearly, chean people that are paramount for us and for the turned into a premeditated assault on the principles entire international community. Should the Kampu­ of the Charter and, therefore, on the very foundation chean people, acting freely and without external of the world Organization. The struggle is between constraints, choose Pol Pot, Heng Samrin or any naked physical force and the Charter-our Charter; between tanks, planes, devilish weapons of exter­ other leader, then we shall abide by that decision and tl!~ assist that Government and throu~h it the Kampuchean mination of peoples by slow starvation and prin­ people to rebuild their lives and their country. ciples which give life and infuse vitality into the United Nations. 225. Let us be very clear on this question. We have 229. I submit that in defending the right of Demo­ no desire to perpetuate for even one day the travails cratic Kampuchea to its seat in this world Organiza­ and the gradual extermination of the Kampuchean tion, we seek to defend the United Nations from those people by holding out on the issue of which is the whose cynical acts point in only one direction: t:; the legitimate Governm~nt of ,hat people. If there should destruction of the Charter. be .the slightest possibility of resolving that issue to the satisfaction of the Kampuchean people, we, the 230. The PRESIDENT: We have heard the last countries of ASEAN, and those who feel as strongly speaker in the debate. Statements will now be limited about the matter as we do would assist in the effort to explanations of vote. May I remind Members that to reach a solution to the fullest possible extent. As in accordance with decision 34/401, explanations of to the humanitarian aspects, which continue to loom vote should be limited to 10 minutes and should be large, surely there are many ways to approach that made by delegations from their seats. problem. The international community, indeed, has 231. Mr. ANDERSON (Australia): Before making not spared any effort to address it even before a an explanation of vote b~fore the vote, I should like political answer is found, because people continue to to express the deep sympdhy and condolences of the sta,.rve.and to get killed. But we are convinced that the Government and people ofAustralia with the Govern­ humanitarian problem will recur and defy solution for ment and people of Algeria and with the b~reaved as 1.1;ng as the political solution offered by the United families in the recfmt natural disastLr 'at El Asnam. Nations continues to meet with defiance and hostility 232. The principal function of the Credentials Com­ on the part of the parties most closely concerned. As mittee is to consider whether the credentials of repre­ I). bost country to refugees from that tragic reg.on, we sentatives have been submitted in proper form and are sceptical about the political "solution" offered in signed appropriately in accordance with the provisions place of the United Nations resolution and the pros­ of rule 27 of the rules of procedure of the General pects in store for the Kampuchean people under that Assembly. solution. 233. The task ofthe Credentials Committee is, ~here­ 226. Above all, we are not prepared to sacrifice the fore, a strictly procedural one. In these circumstances, principi~s of non-intervention and respect for the it would have been neither proper nor appropriate for sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of the Committee to have take!') ,lccount of political nations in favour of a dubious and pious reference considerations in preparing its r\;..t'ort. No evidence-I to the human rights of the Kampuchean people. For repeat, no evidence-has been brought forward to if we do so now, who knows b~t that we· may set in suggest that the credentials submitted by Democratic train a fatal sequence of events that will see us some Kampuchea are other than in due and proper form. day, the small and weak nations of the world, not My delegation therefore considers. that, consistently even having the right to exist except under conditions with established United Nations procedures, the cre­ ofbondage and servility. To abandon this struggle now dentials of Democratic Kampuchea must be accept~d would be a shame and a betrayal of those who, in in accordance with the report of th~ Credentials joining the United Nations, look to this body to live Committee. ------_.~~-

35th meetIng-13 October 1980 717 i 234. Mr. CHARLES (Haiti) (interpretation from and maintained there by the armed forces of a neigb­ French): I should like to express the deep sympathy bouring country. ofmy delegation, my Government and ofthe people of 241. Canada will therefore vote against the proposed Haiti with the Algerian people so sorely tried by the amendment. With the confidence that this Assembly I earthq\take which devastated the city of El A,nam and will turn aside this device to oust a Member of the caused thousands of victims. We assure the Algerian United Nations, Canada will then vote to accept the delegation of our full solidarity. report of the Credentials Committee as submitted. 235. This is not the first time that the credentials of 242. Mr. JELONEK (Federal Republic ofGermany): the representatives of Democratic Kampuchea have After this controversial debate my Government feels been called into question. The latest manifestation to the necessity to make clear, not only by its vote date is the draft amendment A/35/L.5. However, the but also by this explanation, where the Federal Repub­ rights of that Government have always been recog­ lic of Germany stands on the issue of the credentials nized. Thus, at previous sessions of the General of Democratic Kampuchea. Assembly, the credentials of the representatives of Democratic Kampuchea had been accepted. There is 243. The policy of the Federal Republic of Germany no reason today not to adopt a similar decision. In in the United Nations is, above all, guided by strict the view ofmy delegation, the amendment to the draft adherence to the provisions of the Charter. Any resolution put forward by the Credentials Committee attempt to ~xtend the functions of the Credentials must be rejected, for to accept it would be tantamount Committee beyond the right to examine the due form ' to leaving vacant the seat at present occupied by of the credentials submitted by any given country is Democratic Kampuchea. That would compel the not consistent with Article 2 of the Charter. Rightly, United Nations to tl.'.ke a decision on a question the rules of procedure of the General Assembly do which concerns no one but the people of Kampuchea, not grant any other competence. which alone is entitled to exercise its right to self­ 244. At its thirty-fourth session the General Assembly determination and to decide its own destiny. did not see any reason to reject the credentials pre­ 236. True, many delegations accuse the Government sented by Democratic Kampuchea. The only reason ofKamjJuchea Dfhaving established a regime ofterror. why those credentials were challenged last year and But does this justify foreign intervention? Does a are challenged again this year is that, through an armed Member State under Article 2, paragraph 4, of the intervention by Viet Nam, the former regime was Charter have the right to resort to the use of force unseated and a new one installed in Phnom Penh. against the territolial integrity political independence 245. It would be tantamount to recognizing armed of anotht.r State? ~s the United Nations empowered aggression and helping the aggressor to harvest the to pass judgement on the political quality of a State? fruits of its violation of the Charter if this, Assembly Even if the Government of Democratic Kampuchea should decide not to recognize the credentialspre~ has been accused of violating human rights, the sented by Democratic Kampuchea. Such a decision Credentials Committee is not entitled to pass on this would be a dangerous blow for the principle of the matter any judgement that would authorize it to decide non-use of force i,. international relations, which is on th~ validity of the credentials of that delegation. of paramount importance for my country. To be quite 2J'7. The answer to these questions explains the clear, I want to emphasize that we have no sympathy reasons why our delegation cannot accept the draft of any kind with the abominable regime of Pol Pot, amendment on which the Assembly is called upon to whose infamous record of atrocities is known world­ take a decision. wide. We (;ondemn these violations of human rights committed by the Pol Pot regime as resolutely as ever 238. Mr. KERGIN (Canada): At the outset, I should before. Yet, we do not recognize the flagrant viola­ like to asscciate the delegation of Canada with the tion of international law brought about by the Viet­ sentiments expressed by iJre-.ious delegations and namese aggression against Kampuchea. convey the deepest sympathy of the Canadian people to the people and Government of Algeria for the 246. Recogriizing the credentials of Democratic recent tragic natural disaster in their country. Kampuchea does not mean acquiescing in the situa­ tion in the couiltry. That situation urgently calls for 23). The delegation of Canada would like it clearly action by the United Nations to bring about a fast, understood why it intends to vote against the proposed comprehensive political solution which will enable the amendment to the report ofthe Credentials Committee. people of Kampuchea freely to exercise their right to If adopted, the amendment would deprive the repre­ self-determination and send a delegation to the United sentatives of Democratk: Kampuchea of their place, Nations that is internationally recog~ized and re­ in this Assembly. On the other hand, the seating of spected. any Member in this Assembly carries no suggestion of endorsement of the actions or policies of that 247. The countries of ASEAN have made a pro­ Member. posal to that effect, and my country declares its solidarity with them in their efforts. To accept the 240. Canada's support for the seating of the repre­ results ofaggression would be the wrong way to reach sentatives ofDemocratic Kampuchea should in no way a solution in Kampuchea. That is why we reject the be construed as support for the policies ofits Govern­ amendment before us. ment. On numerous occasions Canada has criticized the brutal disregard for human rights and human life 248. The PRESIDENT: The GeI7~ ral Assembly will by that regime. However, we cannot accept manreu­ now take a decision on the draft resolution recom­ vres designed ultimately to lead towards recognition Ir.ended by the Credentials Committee in paragraph 18 of the representatives of a regime placed in power of its report [A/35/484]. I 718 General Assembly-Tblrty-fifth Session-Plenary Meetings I 249. In accordance with rule 90 of the rules of pro­ with the rules ofprocedure. That competence is limited be accepted and " In that way the cedure, I shall first put to the vote the amendment to verification and has nothing to do with the legitimacy proposed in document A/35/L.5. In this connexion, of the Governments concerned. The amendment pro­ and representat I have been asked to inform the Assembly that docu­ posed to us in document A/35/L.5 and Add.l did not outside interver ment A/35/L.5/Add. 1, which states that Bulgaria has meet these criteria. Therefore, we voted against it. troops of occu become a sponsor of that amendment, has been cir­ This does not at all prejudge our attitude on the sub­ representing tI culated. A recorded vote has been requested. stance of the issues dealt with. We always strongly people and resp A recorded vote was taken. condemn the armed invasion of any country and the 256. Mr. KL setting up ofa puppet regime by the invader in flagrant delegation's vot In favour: Afghanistan, , Algeria, Angola, viQlation ofthe principles of the Charter ofthe United presented in do Benin, Bulgaria, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Repub­ Nations. We view with the same disapproval and the reiterate briefly lic, Cape Verde. Congo, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, same disgust any regime which, by its cruelty, its question ofrepr Democratic Yeme..i, Ethiopia, German Democratic intolerance and its ideology is guilty of downright 257. Uncondit Republic, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, genocide, and our vote today in no way spells approval Hungary, India, Jamaica, 's Democratic of human rights of the policy of the Government of Democratic Austria's dome Republic, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Madagascar, Kampuchea. Mongolia, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Panama, Poland, have therefore Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Syrian Arab 253. Mr. McHENRY (United States of America): of the Pol Pot-I Republic, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Union As previously announced, the United States supported human rights ha of Soviet Socialist Republics, Viet Nam. on technical grounds acceptai~ce of the credentials are utterly unac of the representative of the Democratic Kampuchea internal affairs Against: Argentina, Australia, Bahamas, Bahrain, authorities.. When there is no superior claim, the political system Bangladesh, Barbados, Belgium, Bhutan, Bolivia, General Assembly should seat the representative of military force Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Comoros, Costa the Government whose credentials were accepted by unacceptable an Rica, Democratic Kampuchea, Denmark, Djibouti, the previous session of the General Assembly. There fully. This inter Dominican Republic,. Ecuador, , El Salvador, is no superior claim for the Kampuchean seat. The Qf the Govemm Equatorial Guinea, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Germany, Heng Samrin regime was installed by Viet Nam through in violation vf Federal Republic of, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, its military invasion of Kampuchea and is maintained sovereignty of Honduras, Indonesia, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kenya, in power by a Vietnamese occupation force of some contradiction of Kuwait, Lesotho, Liberia, Luxembourg, Malaysia, 200,000 troops. Such invasion and occupation is in people of Kamp Maldives, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Morocco, direct violation of the United Nations Charter and of Nepal, New Zeland, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, 258. With rega General Assembly resolution 34/22, which called for country, we are Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Philippines, Portugal, the withdrawal of all foreign forces and the end of Qatar, , Senegal, Singapore, Somalia, human sufferh,g outside intervention in the internal affairs of Kam­ among a peoph Sri Lanka, Sudan, Thailand, Togo, Turkey, United puchea. Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, stands in dange United Republic of Cameroon, United States of 254. The conclusion that the Heng Samrin regime famine and dis America, UpperVolta, Uruguay, Venezuela, Yugosla­ does not represent a superior claim is supported by objective is dire via, Zaire. most ofthe Governments ofthe region that are directly and rendering h concerned with this problem. The posiHon of the that Kampuhea Abstaining: Austria, Botswana, Brazil, Burundi, United States on the technical question of credentials integrity and sov Central Afriran Republic, Chad, Finland, France, does not imply United States Government recognition Ghana, Iceland, Ireland, Ivory Coast, Lebanon, Mali, 259. That is tI of the Democratic Kampuchea regime, it does not thirty-fourth ses Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Peru, Rwanda, Samoa, iIr'ply support for the regime, and it does not imply Sierra Leone, Spain, Suriname, , Trinidad question of the approval of its heinous practices. On the contrary, we puchea first pres and Tobago, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, condemn unequivocally the savage human rights viola­ United Republic of , Yemen, Zambia, Austria therefore tions that have taken place under the Pol Pot regime. ment contained . Zimbabwe. Unlikt> some Governments which only now, after the The amendment was rejected by 74 votes to 35, invasion by Viet Nam, raise human rights concerns, 260. Mr. SHE] with 32 abstentions. the United States spoke against those abUfles in the Republic) (inte Security Council, in the Human Rights Commission today's discussi 250. The PRESIDENT: The General Assembly will Committee [A/3 now take a decision on the draft resolution recom­ and in the General Assembly both before and after the invasion. The regime that now seeks to supplant resolution cont~ mended by the Credentials Committee in paragraph 18 add./] the dele of its report [A/35/484]. Duly taking into account the Democratic Kampuchea as the representative of Kampuchea is also open to condemnation. It is the Bulgaria, the views expressed by delegations, including those German Democ contained in General Assembly documents circulated creation of and dependent for its survival on the military forces of Viet Nam, whose invasion and Republic, the UI1 to Memtl~r States, may I take it that the General Ukrainian Soviet Assembly adopts that draft resolution? occupation of Kampuchea are in violation of interna­ tionally recognized principles. Viet Nam has shown no Socialist Repu~ The draft resolution was adopted(resolution 35/4 A). willingness to negotiate concerning the withdrawal of Socialist Republi 251. The PRESIDENT: I shall noW call on those its-forces. they resolutely 0 representatives who had expressed the wish to explain totally unrepres 255. At the thirty-fourth session of the General invidious Pol Po their votes after the voting. Assembly, resolution 34/22 was approved that pro­ 252. Mr. PETERS (Luxembourg) (interpretation vided a reasonable basis on which to seek a solution 261. As regards from French): Luxembourg, in accordance with its ofthe problems ofconflict and famine in Kampuchea. report of the Cn democratic views, always supports decisions taken We hope that that resolution and draft resolution delegations I ha by the Credentials Committee when they are taken in A/35/L.2/Rev.1, as well as additional solutions that adoption of that conformity with that Committee's competence and might be proposed by this General Assembly, will credentials of a ~ ,,-_------c--- ! 35th meetlng-13 October 1900 719 I be accepted and implemented by all parties concerned. represented at the thirty-fifth session of the General In that way there may evolve a genuinely independent Assembly. and representative government ofKampuchea, free of 262. Nevertheless, for the delegations I have men­ outside intervention and free of the pressure offoreign tioned, on whose behalf the delegation of the Byelo­ troops of occupation, at peace with its neighbOlJrs, russian SSR is speaking, the adoption of the Creden­ representing the aspirations of the Kampuchean tials Committee's report-and I would emphasize people and respectful of thf :7 human rights. this-does not at all imp~y agreement with the pur­ 256. Mr. KLESTIL (Au,;(ria): In explaining my ported "credentials" of so-called "r,emocratic Kam­ delegation's vote on the amendment to the resolution puchea". presented in document A/35/L.5 and Add.!, I wish to 263. We are deeply convinced that the time is not far reiterate briefly Austria's position of principle on the offwhen Kampuchea will be represented in the United question ofrepresentation ofDemocratic Kampuchea. Nations by the sole legitimate representative of its 257. Unconditional respect for the basic principles people, in other words by the People's Revolutionary of human rights is one of the corner-stones on which Council of the People's Republic of Kampuchea. Austria's domestic and foreign policy is based. We 264. Mr. KATAPODIS (Greece): The Greek delega­ have therefore consistently condemned the practices tion voted against the amendment contained in docu­ of the Pol Pot-Ieng Sary regime whose violations of ment A/35/L.5 and Add.!, designed to exclude the human rights have reached genocidal dihlensions and credentials of the representatives of Democratic are utterly unacceptable. Foreign intervention in the Kampuchea from those approved by the Credentials internal affairs of a sovereign State and a change of Committee. In so doing, my delegation was motivated political system, however despicable it may be, by by the desire to ensure that no Member State is military force from outside is, however, equally deprived of the light to participate in the work of our unacceptable and has to be condemned just as force­ Organization. We were also consistent with our fully. This intervention, which led to the installation pra..tice of approving ~!,c report of the Credentials of the Government of Heng Samrin, was carried out Committee, which is the appropriate body for exam­ in violation vf the territorial integrity and political ining the validity of credentials submitted in accord­ sovereignty of Kampuchea and stands in flagrant ance with rule 27 of the rules of procedure. contradiction of the right to self-determination of the people of Kampuchea. 265. Having said that, I should like to reiterate our condemnation of all acts of violence or repression 258. With regard to the devastating situation in that perpetrated against the people ofKampuchea in recent country, we are deeply conscious of the amount of years, including the brutal policies of the Pol Pot human sufferil,g and senseless sacrifice of human life administration. Besides, I shall have the opportunity among a people with a noble tradition which now to state the views of my delegation on the political stands in danger of extinction through persecution, aspects of th~ problem of Kampu<:hea when item 22 famine and disease. Austria's first and foremost of the agenda comes before the General Assembly objective is directed towards alleviating the suffering for consideration. and rendering humanitarian help to Kampuchea, so that Kampuhea will be in a position to secure its 266. Mr. THUNBORG (Sweden): The position of integrity and sovereignty against any foreign influence. Sweden regarding the credentials of ~ampuchea remains unchanged. Thus, in the present conditions 259. That is the position that Austria took at the we do not consider that any Government can claim thirty-fourth session ofthe General Assembly when the to represent Kampuchea. Our abstention on the question of the representation of Democratic Kam­ proposed amendment in document A/35/L.5 and Add.! pucheafirst presented itself, and it remains unchanged. and the fact that we joined in the consensus in ap­ Austria therefore abstained in th; vote on the amend­ proving the report of the Credentials Committee ment contained in document A/35!L.5 and Pdd.l. should be seen in that light. 260. Mr. SHELDOV (Byelorussian Soviet Socialist 267. Mr. HELSKOV (Denmark): I should like briefly Republic) (interpretation from Russian): Du~ng to explain the vote of the DZJlish delegation on the today's discussion of the report of the Credentials resolution just adopted. In the present circumstances Committee [A/35/484] and of the amendment to the my Government would clearly have preferred a neutral resolution contained in that report [A/35/L.5 and solution to the problem. Because of legal principles add./] the delegations of th~ People's Republic Df and for procedural reasons, we have voted against the Bulgaria, the Hungarian People's Republic, the amendment, which would have left the seatofKampu­ German Democratic Republic, the Polish People's chea vacant. I wish to emphasize that the fact that Republic, the Union of 1>oviet Socialist Republics, the we joined in the consensus on the resolution adopted Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, the Czechoslovak should not be taken as an expression of support for Socialist Republic and the Byelorussian Soviet either of the two Governments that claim to represent Socialist Republic gave their positions ofprinciple and Kampuchea. they resolutely opposed the so-called credentials ofthe 268. Mr. ALBORNOZ (Ecuador) (interpretation totally unrepresentative criminals from the bloody, from Spanish): Ecuador wishes to express its deep invidious Pol Pot-Ieng Sary clique. condolences and feelings of solidarity, at this hour of 261. As regards the draft resolution contained in the trial, h) the people and Government of Algeria, which report of the Credentials Committee as a whole, the has been struck by a great disaster whose serious delegations I have mentioned did not object to the consequences we ,fully understand. We are certain that adoption of that report, inasmuch as it pertains to. the the Algerian people, with the enterprising assistance credentials of a significant number of the delegatIOns of its sons and with international co-operation, will ~ I 720 General Assembly-Thirty-fifth SessIon-Plenary Meetings overcome all the difficulties brought about by the the credentials of Democratic Kampuchea for the the El Asn earthquake. following reasons. I delegation 269. The delegation of Ecuador voted in favour of 276~ The Norwegian Government and public opinion compassion the adoption of the first report of the Credentials inNorway have expressed their strong objections to to the peop Committee [A/35/484], as it did on the same question the serious violations of human rights committed by who have b last yC(ar. the Pol Pot regime in Kampuchea. These sentiments in 25 years. 270. My delegation disagrees with any modification have been reinforced over the last year. 288. The of the report of that Committee, for the following 277. Kampuchea is still suffering from armed conflict decisions: ( reasons. and foreign intervention, in grave violation of funda­ ment in do mental principles ofthe Charter ofthe United NatiClns. lenged the c 271. First, the matter of the verification of creden­ Kampuchea tials is a formal question, in respect of which we The Norwegian Government clearly rejects this foreign intervention in the affairs of another independent report Df tht should confine ourselves to ascertaining that the first case, th requirements of the General Assembly rules of pro­ country. It is now imperative to lay a foundation for a peaceful settlement which will allow the people of Indeed, ado cedure are fulfllled,in order to ensure that the cre­ logically ha dentials of the representation of a Member State are Kampuchea freely to elect its own government, free from outside interferenct!. statements ( in good order. national cor 272. Secondly, the vote cast by Ecuador certainly 278. It is the opinion of my Government that under military agg does not imply the least acquiescence in violations of the present circumstances none ofthe existing regimes Kampuchea human rights by any regime, still less that of Pol Pot. can be said to represent effectively the people of democratica On the contrary, Ecuador at this time reaffirms its Kampuchea. government . solemn commitment to respect for human, political, 279. In conclusion, I should like to restate Norway's General As civil, economic, social and cultural rights as a funda­ full support for the principle of universality in the seemingly t( mental rule for the cvnduct of States. That assertion United Nations. of genocide was made by the Constitutional President ofEcuador, rights. By , 280. Mr. ELLIOT (Belgium) (interpretation from . Jaime Rold6s, in tbe Charter of Conduct ofRiobamba French): I wish briefly to give the reasons for the vote France wDul which, together with six other heads of State or cast by the Belgian delegation on document A/35/L.5 the Pol Pot representatives of heads of State or Government, we and Add. 1. have nevern signed at Riobamba on 11 September this year and do so. 281. As a matter of policy, the Belgian delegation which, in view ofits great importance, was circulated 289. Obvio as a document of the General Assembly on 7 Octo­ has always supported resolutions adopted by the Cre­ apply, as co ber. It is further stated therein that the defence of dentials Committee. The Belgian vote on the proposed mittee whic human rights amendment has no meaning in respect of Belgium's substantive attitude towards these regimes, both of specific cast "is an international obligation for States and that, which claim to represent the Khmer people. France's po consequently, joint action taken to protect those year, nor co rights. does not violate the principle of non-inter­ 282. There can be no doubt as to the attitude of 290. Mr. B vention".2 the Belgian people and Government towards the French): i st heinous and inhuman record of the Pol Pot regime; felt gratitude 273. Thirdly, at the same time, the delegation of we have constantly and regularly condemned that Ecuador cannot agree with any actions aimed at delegations , regime's systematic violations ofhuman rights. Today their sympat legalizing situations brought about by the presence, once again we condemn them most formally. in the national territory ofa State, ofinvading foreign just suffered. troops as a substitute for the sovereign expression of 283. Nevertheless, the so-called Heng Samrin regime 291. In voti the will ofthe people. Only after the foreign occupa­ can in no way be considered to be legitimate, since wished, abo tion troops withdraw and the citizens of that country it was imposed by Vietnamese military force on the decision ado are permitted to decide their own destiny in free and Khmer people 'in violation ofthe basic principles ofthe ference of I­ fully democratic elections under United Nations super­ Charter of the United Nations. Aligned Cou vision should the international community proceed 2&4. Members of the United Nations are faced with in the absenc to give its recognition to decisions thus clearly and a flagrant violation of the sovereign independence of taking a has openly adopted by that same people. a Member State. The United Nations cannot tolerate the principle 274. Sir Anthony PARSONS (United Kingdom): The the invasion of one nation by another, nor can it declared itse fact that my delegation voted against amendment condone the occupation ofone country and the control is in accorda A/35/L.5 and Add.l does not imply that my Govern­ of its internal political life by another. The Khmer today voted i ment supports the authorities issuing the credentials peovit: is entitled freely to determine its future without the Lao del in question or deals with them as a Government. any foreign interference. reconsider pa My Government's general views on the substance of 285. Hence, Belgium firmly supports the position Committee rt the situation in will be expressed during of the States most concerned among the nations cf puchean dele the debate on the appropriate agenda item. At this South-Ell.:;( Asia which have condemned all expan­ 292. Mr. PP stage I would simply make it clear that, in casting sionist movements in Indo-China. tionjoins in tl our vote today for wider reasons, we have no intention 286. Belgium earnestly hopes that the Khmer people ofAlgeria on ofcontributing to the re-establishment ofthe authority will soon be able to see its sufferings end under a of Algeria. of the Pol Pot regime, nor do we see any grounds for freely chosen regime and to undertake the task of 293. When expecting this to happen. reconstructing its sorely tried country. . year, the que 275. Mr. ALGARD (Norway): My delegation ab­ 287. Mr. LEPRETTE (France) (interpretation from of Kampuchf ~!!!~!:9m voting on the amendment concerning French): May I first of all express to the Algerian abstained in ~motion 2 See document A/C.3/35/4, annex, para. 3. delegation our profound 0 ver the extent of 3 See documen i .' 35th meeting-13 October 1980 721 :he the El Asnam disaster. I would request the Algerian main reason for abstaining was our perception of delegation to convey this message of sympathy and the situation in Kampuchea as a subject of conflicting on compassion to the Algerian Government as well 'as interests beiween the great Powers. For the same to to the people of El Asnam and the surrounding area; reasons, the Finnish delegation abstained today in the by who have been so cruelly stricken for the second time vote taken on the proposal in document A/35/L,5 and lts in 25 years. Add.I. Our subsequent acceptance of the report of 288. The General Assembly has just taken two the Credentials Committee should therefore be viewed in the light of the previous vote, which has already ict decisions: on the one hand, it rejected the amend­ ment in document A/35/L,5 and Add.l which chal­ made clear our position on the question of the cre­ la- dentials of the delegation of Kampuchea. lS. lenged the credentials of the delegation of Democratic .gn Kampuchea; on the other hand, it adopted the first 294. Mr. KEAT CHHON (Democratic Kanlpuchea) mt report Df the Credentials Committee [A/35/484]. In the (interpretation from French): My delegation wishes For first case, the French delegation abstained from voting. to associate itself with those which have expressed of Indeed, adoption ofthe amendment in question would sympathy and sincere condc:ences to the Algerian 'ee logically have led-as confirmed, incidentallY, by the people and Government on the de.vastation and statements ofits sponsors-to welcoming to the inter­ bereavement caused by the earthquake. national community a regime installed as a result of ler 295. The credentials of Democratic Kampuchea, a military aggression. I would also point out that the State Member of the United Nations, have always les Kampuchean people was not in a position freely and of been recognized and accepted by our Assembly and democratically to express its views on the kind of other international organizations. Since the beginning government it would like to have. The effect of the i of 1979, after the Vietnamese aggression and inva­ ,'s General Assembly's ;';;j~ction of that amendment is sion, the Security Council and the General Assem­ he I seemingly to confer respectability on a regime accused bly-the latter at its thirty-fourth session, its sixth of genocide and of violation of inalienable human and seventh emergency special sessions and its rights. By voting against the proposed amendment, e;~venth special session-as well the assemblies of 'm I as Ite j France would have given the impression ofsupporting other international organizations, have successively ..5 ,Ii the Pol Pot regime, with which, I would recall, we confirmed those credentials and the legitimate rights have never maintained relations. Therefore, we did not ofDemocratic Kampuchea. That has been true despite ;I do so. on ! the unremitting, cynical and perfidious manreuvres I 289. Obviously, the views I have just expressed ofthe authorities which, failing to have the Viet­ 'e- I ~ apply, as concerns the report of the Credentials Com­ namese administration in Phnom Penh accepted, seek ed : " mittee which was adopted without a vote, to the to deprive Democratic Kampuchea of its legitimate I'S , specific case of Kampuchea, and to that case alone. of rights in those organizations through the so-called i Franc~'s position has remained unchanged since last vacant seat formula. 1 year, nor could it have changed. ; i 296. This year again, ourGeneral Assembly has taken of 290. Mr. BEDJAOUl (Algeria) (interpretation from ~e up the challenge of the Hanoi authorities by an over­ I! French): i should like once again to extend the heart­ whelming majority which has again summoned them .e; i i felt gratitude of the Algerian delegation to all those at i1 to respect the sacred principles ofthe Charter and the delegations which throughout the day have expressed legitimate rights of Democratic Kampuchea as a iY !J their sympathy to my country for the disaster it has i j Member of our Organization. just suffered. le q 297. The preliminary count of the voting a moment H 291. In voting for the proposed amendment, Algeria ago indicates that there is even more massive sup­ ce I' 1 wished, above all, to show that it is bound by the port than there was last year for the legitimate rights le 1,1 decision adopted on this subject by the Sixth Con­ of Democratic Kampuchea, the victim of aggression. le ! ference of Heads of State or Government of Non­ That clearly shows that a growing number of States ;J Aligned Countries, held at Havana in 1979. 3 Indeed, Members ofour Organization understand mOle clearly th in the absence ofall the facts, that Conference avoided with each passing day the substance ofthe Vietnamese of il taking a hasty decision that might have jeopardized manreuvre and the profound causes of Kampuchea's te the principles and ideals of non-alignment; hence it problems. it 'zj declared itself in favour of the seat being unfilled. It 01 JJ is in accordance with that decision that my delegation 298. That is a great victmy for those peoples of the er today voted in favour of the amendment proposed by world who love peace 8Lnd justice and for the United ut ~ the Lao delegation calling upon our Assembly to Nations itselfover the forces ofaggression, expansion reconsider paragraph 18 ofthe report ofthe Credentials and diktat. Thus, our Organization, despite its vicissi­ Committee relat;ng to the representation of the Kam­ tudes, has once again shown that it is courageous and In puchean delegation. clear-sighted. And this does it honour. Df n- 292. Mr. PASTINEN (Finland): The Finnish delega­ 299. The delegation of Democratic Kampuchea tionjoins in the condolences extended to the delegation wishes to express its profound gratitude to all the peoples and countries who love peace and justice le ofAlgeria on the tragedy which has befallen the people of Algeria. and to our Assembly for that act of justice: justice a because it opposed aggression, the violation of the of 293. When the General Assembly considered, last principles ofthe Charter and ofthose governing inter­ year, the question of the credentials of the delegation national relations; justice because it supported the of Kampuchea, the Finnish delegation consistently '1l legitimate rights in the United Nations of the victim abstained in all votes regarding that question. The ID ofaggression, confirmed the legitimacy of the struggle of 3 See document A/34/542, annex, sect. 11. waged at present by the people and Government of 722 General Assembly-Thirty-flfth Session-Plenary Meetings Unitet Democratic Kampuchea fOf the survival ofthe Kampu­ to fruition its manreuvres aimed at having its occupa­ chean nation, because the vote cast a moment ago tiqn of Kampuchea accepted as a fait accompli and at GE recognized the sacred and inalienable right of Kampu­ l~&tlizing its invasion of Kampuchea. But Viet Nam, chea to remain an independent nation with its own !~ft!:>se leaders are obstinate and perfidious, will resist AS~ entity and to develop in concert with the community }D1s verdict and will not renounce its manreuvres in TH/RTl of nations. '''this Organization to have that fait accompli accepted. 300. We wish to emphasize thataspect ofthe meaning It will continue to create trouble in the Organization Officio. of the vote cast a moment ago because the war of while constantly professing its desire for a "dialogue" - aggression waged by the Hanoi authorities against and its so-called will for "peace" and "co-operation". Kampuchea is not a traditional war of colonial con­ We know what value Hanoi attaches to its own quest as history has known in the past. Apart from promises and to the agreements it has concluded. serving regional expansionist ambitions, that war is a Promises, negotiations and agreements for Hanoi are Agenda special war of extermination of a whole nation and a no more than palliatives enabling it to gain time. Adopt Brutal force and the law of the jungle allied to perfidy tinu whole people, because the Hanoi authorities do not (a) Re need Kampucheans, but only the territory of Kampu­ remain still the rule of conduct of Hanoi in interna­ chea, 10 make through their "Indo-Chinese Federa­ tional relations for the realization of its expansionist Agenda strategy. The si tion" a greater Viet Nam. Gen 301. The vote cast a moment ago encourages our 306. Like all other countries that are small or medium - people, as well as our national army, to persevere in size and weak, Democratic Kampuchea places its regardless of difficulties, obstacles and sacrifices in full confidence in our Organization, which remains its Pre, their just struggle until they succeed in asserting the last resort for th~ triumph of the principles of the rights of the people of Kampuchea to decide its own Charter and those governing relations among States. destiny, so that Kampuchea may remain for ever an We are convinced that after the common victory they independent, united, democratic, peaceful, neutral, have obtained, the countries that love peace andjustice non-aligned country without any foreign bases on its will remain clear-sighted and on the alert and will soil. Together with this encouragement, the vote in oppose the expansionists successfully. question helps to strengthen the great national union 307. The act of justice just carried out by our As­ Adopti front of all patriotic forces against the Vietnamese sembly with respect to Democratic Kampuchea, the (conti invaders. We shall deserve that support. The Govern­ victim of aggression, is for all countries, especially ment of Democratic Kampuchea and the Patriotic and the small and medium-sized countries, a source of (a) Rei Democratic Front ofGreat National Union ofKampu­ additional comfort in their determination to defend THIRI chea are open to all patriotic forces seeking a wide their independence, sovereignty and territorial integ­ and fruitful national union. rity in the face of the forces of aggression, expansion 302. Through that massive vote, the General As­ and diktat. It strengthens the Charter and the confi­ 1. Th sembly clearly indicated that only the withdrawal of dence of those countries in our Organization. report Vietnamese forces from Kampuchea will solve 308. Lastly, our delegation expresses once again its mittee the problem of Kampuchea and bring back peace, determination to work here untiringly with all the other additio stability and sec\lrity to South-East Asia. It has also delegations, as our fighters do on the battlefield in tions clearly indicated that only a Kampuchean government, Kampuchea, and those ofAfghanistan in their country, develo democratically elected under United Nations super­ to contribute to guaranteeing the national indepen­ include vision after the complete withdrawal of Vietnamese dence of and to bring to South-East Asia and Asia in forces from Kampuchea, will be empowered to occupy general peace, stability and security and to ensure that It wa Democratic Kampuchea's seat in th: United Nations. the legitimate interests of all countries are preserved. 2. The 303. The verdict of our Assembly is ..::lear, but 309. Mr. SOURINHO (Lao People's Democratic mends knowing the true nature of the Hanoi authorities, we Republic) (interpretation from French): The General should' have every right to ask ourselves whether those Assembly, despite the strong opposition of many Itakei authorities will accept that verdict. representatives of Member States, particularly the recomr 304. This mo~ng the representative of Viet Nam, sponsors of amendment A/35/L.5 and Add.!, has just It wa as usual, abused this rostrum to pronounce the same adopted the first report of the Credentials Committee untruths and slanders that he uttered last year before recommending that it approve the credentials of a the Security Council and at the thirty-fourth session certain number of representatives of States, including of the General Assembly. By their successive votes, the credentials ofthe representatives ofthe universally 1 the Security Council and the thirty-fourth session of condemned genocidal Pol Pot-Ieng Sary gang. Despite the General Assembly have already rejected those that, and in order to demonstrate further proof of our gross misrepresentations of the truth and those low wish to collaborate with you, Mr. President, in the 3. The slanders. It is not my delegation's intention to waste efficient conduct of our proceedings, the sponsors of resoluti our Assembly's time in responding to the gangster the said amendment joined in the consensus reached in doc logic of the invaders of Kampuchea. by the General Assembly". But that proof of goodwill Genera in no way means that we approve or accept the cre­ 305. It is certain that the vote cast a moment ago become will diminish the arrogance of the Hanoi authorities dentials of the representatives ofso-called Democratic 4. In Kampuchea. and of the international expansionists. It also con­ the Ph' tributes to preventing Viet Nam from shirking its 310. On behalf of the sponsors of amendment resoluti responsibility of implementing the relevant General A/35/L.5 and Add.! therefore, I request that our reservation be included in the record of this meeting Assembly resolution 34/22 calling for the withdrawal * Resu of Vietnamese troops from Kampuchea. It helps to of the General Assembly. prevent Viet Nam from using our Organization to bring ". --- The meeting rose at 7.27rp~m: