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Marathon 2,500 Years Edited by Christopher Carey & Michael Edwards
MARATHON 2,500 YEARS EDITED BY CHRISTOPHER CAREY & MICHAEL EDWARDS INSTITUTE OF CLASSICAL STUDIES SCHOOL OF ADVANCED STUDY UNIVERSITY OF LONDON MARATHON – 2,500 YEARS BULLETIN OF THE INSTITUTE OF CLASSICAL STUDIES SUPPLEMENT 124 DIRECTOR & GENERAL EDITOR: JOHN NORTH DIRECTOR OF PUBLICATIONS: RICHARD SIMPSON MARATHON – 2,500 YEARS PROCEEDINGS OF THE MARATHON CONFERENCE 2010 EDITED BY CHRISTOPHER CAREY & MICHAEL EDWARDS INSTITUTE OF CLASSICAL STUDIES SCHOOL OF ADVANCED STUDY UNIVERSITY OF LONDON 2013 The cover image shows Persian warriors at Ishtar Gate, from before the fourth century BC. Pergamon Museum/Vorderasiatisches Museum, Berlin. Photo Mohammed Shamma (2003). Used under CC‐BY terms. All rights reserved. This PDF edition published in 2019 First published in print in 2013 This book is published under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial- NoDerivatives (CC-BY-NC-ND 4.0) license. More information regarding CC licenses is available at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ Available to download free at http://www.humanities-digital-library.org ISBN: 978-1-905670-81-9 (2019 PDF edition) DOI: 10.14296/1019.9781905670819 ISBN: 978-1-905670-52-9 (2013 paperback edition) ©2013 Institute of Classical Studies, University of London The right of contributors to be identified as the authors of the work published here has been asserted by them in accordance with the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. Designed and typeset at the Institute of Classical Studies TABLE OF CONTENTS Introductory note 1 P. J. Rhodes The battle of Marathon and modern scholarship 3 Christopher Pelling Herodotus’ Marathon 23 Peter Krentz Marathon and the development of the exclusive hoplite phalanx 35 Andrej Petrovic The battle of Marathon in pre-Herodotean sources: on Marathon verse-inscriptions (IG I3 503/504; Seg Lvi 430) 45 V. -
Mercenaries, Poleis, and Empires in the Fourth Century Bce
The Pennsylvania State University The Graduate School College of the Liberal Arts ALL THE KING’S GREEKS: MERCENARIES, POLEIS, AND EMPIRES IN THE FOURTH CENTURY BCE A Dissertation in History and Classics and Ancient Mediterranean Studies by Jeffrey Rop © 2013 Jeffrey Rop Submitted in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of Doctor of Philosophy May 2013 ii The dissertation of Jeffrey Rop was reviewed and approved* by the following: Mark Munn Professor of Ancient Greek History and Greek Archaeology, Classics and Ancient Mediterranean Studies Dissertation Advisor Chair of Committee Gary N. Knoppers Edwin Erle Sparks Professor of Classics and Ancient Mediterranean Studies, Religious Studies, and Jewish Studies Garrett G. Fagan Professor of Ancient History and Classics and Ancient Mediterranean Studies Kenneth Hirth Professor of Anthropology Carol Reardon George Winfree Professor of American History David Atwill Associate Professor of History and Asian Studies Graduate Program Director for the Department of History *Signatures are on file in the Graduate School iii ABSTRACT This dissertation examines Greek mercenary service in the Near East from 401- 330 BCE. Traditionally, the employment of Greek soldiers by the Persian Achaemenid Empire and the Kingdom of Egypt during this period has been understood to indicate the military weakness of these polities and the superiority of Greek hoplites over their Near Eastern counterparts. I demonstrate that the purported superiority of Greek heavy infantry has been exaggerated by Greco-Roman authors. Furthermore, close examination of Greek mercenary service reveals that the recruitment of Greek soldiers was not the purpose of Achaemenid foreign policy in Greece and the Aegean, but was instead an indication of the political subordination of prominent Greek citizens and poleis, conducted through the social institution of xenia, to Persian satraps and kings. -
Plato's Meno: Knowledge Is Justified True Belief
Plato’s Meno: Knowledge is Justified True Belief: This Socratic dialogue introduces two dominate themes in Western philosophy: 402 BC What counts as virtue and what counts as knowledge. Part 1: 70-86c: Part 2: 86d-end: Can Virtue Be Taught? Knowledge Search for a definition of “arete.” MENO’S CHALLENGE: “Opinion” vs. “Knowledge” WHAT IS “ARETE”? 70-79b STRATEGY: : 80d-e 1. may be useful as knowledge, Socrates asks Meno for a formal definition of If you don’t know what “arete” is Socrates proposes that we first determine if virtue is a but often fails to stay in their “arete” for how can we know if arete can be already, you can’t even look for it, kind of knowledge. If it is, it can be taught. If virtue taught we don’t have a clear idea what it is. because if you don’t know what it place; must be tethered by All the examples of “arete” have something in is already, then even if you look, isn’t knowledge, then it can’t be taught (86d-e) anamnesis: certain common: The “essence” or “form” of “arete.” you will not know when you’ve [recognize that virtue is used interchangeably found it. Argument # 1: Virtue can be taught: (87-89c); knowledge is innate & recollected by the soul through with “the good”]. Argument # 2: Virtue is not knowledge (89c): KNOWLEDGE IS proper inquiry. RECOLLECTION: 70a: Can virtue be taught? 71b; Must know what virtue is before Everyone agrees that there are teachers for certain knowing its qualities. What is virtue? Meno responds: (71e-72a). -
Persian-Thessalian Relations in the Late Fifth Century BC
The Prince and the Pancratiast: Persian-Thessalian Relations in the Late Fifth Century B.C. John O. Hyland EAR THE END of the fifth century B.C. the famous Thes- salian pancratiast Poulydamas of Skotoussa traveled to Nthe Achaemenid court at the invitation of Darius II. Scholars have noted the visit as an instance of cultural inter- action, but Persia’s simultaneous involvement in the Pelopon- nesian War suggests the possibility of diplomatic overtones. A political purpose for Poulydamas’ travel would be especially at- tractive given the subsequent cooperation between Darius’ son, Cyrus the Younger, and a cabal of Thessalian guest-friends. These episodes may be linked as successive steps in the restora- tion of the old xenia between Xerxes and Thessalian leaders, dormant since 479. By examining what Persian and Thessalian elites stood to gain from renewing their old partnership, we can shed new light on an under-appreciated dimension of Graeco- Persian political relations. The pancratiast’s visit: Poulydamas, Darius II, and Cyrus Poulydamas’ victory at the Olympic games of 408 made him a living legend in Greece, a strongman comparable to Herakles (Paus. 6.5.1–9).1 Plato’s Republic testifies to his fame outside of Thessaly in the first half of the fourth century, citing him as the 1 For the date see Luigi Moretti, Olympionikai: i vincitori negli antichi agoni Olympici (Rome 1957), no. 348. For Poulydamas’ emulation of Herakles, and similar associations for Milo and other Olympic victors see David Lunt, “The Heroic Athlete in Ancient Greece,” Journal of Sport History 36 (2009) 380–383. -
Any 37 Anytus of Euonymon, Son of Anthemion I Pl
Any 37 Anytus of Euonymon, son of Anthemion I Pl. Meno 90a speaker [PA/APF 1324 LGPN2 4 PAA 139460 DPhA Pl. Ap. 18b, 23e, & 227 RE 3 OCD3 PP !Aνυτ%ς 'Aνθεµι+ων%ς schol. present (Eυ' ωνυµευ+ ς)] Xen. Apol. 29–31 ≤443–>396 Xen. Hell. 2.3.42, 44 father of an unnamed son Andoc. 1.150 prosecutor of Socrates Lys. 13.78–9, 22.8 Isocr. 18.23–4 D. S. 13.64–6, 14.37.7 Hell. Oxy. 6.2 Aristoph. Thesm. 809, unnamed Arch. Fishes fr. 31 (K 30) Theo. Strat. fr. 58 (K 57) [Aristot.] Ath. Pol. 27.5, 34.3 Life. Anytus was the son of a self-made man who was highly praised in Plato’s Meno (90a): Anthemion, son of Diphilus, a thete who became a hippeus ([Aristot.] Ath. Pol. 7.4; Poll. 8.131) “through his own wisdom and effort” (Meno 90a). His demotic is virtually certain (Raubitschek 1949). If Anytus was in fact a lover of Alcibiades III (Pl. Ap. schol.), his date of birth should be earlier than 451, and nothing that is known about his career makes that early date implausible. If this datum falls away, however, as suggested in detail in APF, Anytus’ birth would be no later than 443, if he served on the Council in 413/2, and no later than ±440 in any case. Anytus inherited a successful tannery from his father (Xen. Apol. 29; Pl. Ap. schol.), but the comic playwrights reduced his occupation to one rather more common for slaves, “shoemaker” (Theo.; Arch.). -
Klearchos in Xenophon's Anabasis
Klearchos in Xenophon’s Anabasis Joseph Roisman Having brought the history of Kyros’ expedition to the point where Tissa phernes seized the generals of the Greek mercenaries, Xenophon breaks the narrative of the Anabasis to draw the portrait of three of them, namely of Klearchos, Proxenos, and Meno/ The portraits deal, by and large, with the strategoi’s character and ambitions. Thus the sketch of Klearchos the Spartan is dominated by three themes: his being aner philopolemos, polemikos, and archikos (2.6Ἰ-15). Although Xenophon thinks well of Klearchos the war rior and his ability to turn his troops into an efficient war machine (2.6. 7-8, 11, 14), the scale is clearly tipped towards criticism when he describes him as almost obsessed with a love of war, enforcing discipline by fear and punish ment, and gaining command because of his rank and his followers’ difficult circumstances (2.6.2-6, 9-10, 12-15). The characterisation of Klearchos is brief, occupying about 63 lines in the Teubner edition of Xenophon’s Anaba sis? Yet its impact on students of Xenophon who evaluated Klearchos’ role in the expedition seems to have been out of proportion to its size. Two examples may illustrate the phenomenon: a) After their arrival at Tarsos the mercenar ies refused to follow Kyros to the Euphrates. Klearchos persuaded them to change their minds by using manipulative tactics which would have made a veteran demagogue green with envy.1 23 However, due to the impact of Klear chos’ portrait in 2.6.1-5, it has been concluded that on this occasion Klear- 1 Xenophon, Anabasis 2.6. -
The Meno by Plato
MENO By Plato Translated by Lee Perlman The bold numbers and letters are universal ‘stephanus’ page numbers, which provide a common reference between different translations PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Meno, Socrates, A Slave of Meno (Boy), Anytus. 70 MENO: Can you tell me1, Socrates, whether aretê is something that can be taught; or if not through teaching, through practice, or if neither by practice nor through learning, does it accrue to humans by nature, or in some other way? SOCRATES: Meno, the Thessalians used to be held in high repute and marveled B at among the Greeks for their horsemanship and their riches, but now, it seems to me, also for wisdom, not least the citizens of Larissa, the city of your companion Aristippus. The cause of this is Gorgias. For he came to the city and made the foremost of the Aleuadae lovers of his wisdom, among them your lover2 Aristippus, as well as the other Thessalians. And he accustomed you to the habit C of answering any question asked of you fearlessly and magnificently, exactly like those who know; just as he himself stands ready for any question a Greek wishes to ask, and never fails to answer. But in this region, dear Meno, the opposite has come to pass. There 1 Exeis moi epein means literally ‘Do you have it to tell me?” There is some reason to think that Plato played with the conventions of the epic tradition, in which the first word set the theme for the entire poem. Here, this would suggest that the question of whether knowledge is a kind of ‘having’ or possession is central to the Meno. -
Sean Manning, a Prosopography of the Followers of Cyrus the Younger
The Ancient History Bulletin VOLUME THIRTY-TWO: 2018 NUMBERS 1-2 Edited by: Edward Anson ò Michael Fronda òDavid Hollander Timothy Howe òJoseph Roisman ò John Vanderspoel Pat Wheatley ò Sabine Müller òAlex McAuley Catalina Balmacedaò Charlotte Dunn ISSN 0835-3638 ANCIENT HISTORY BULLETIN Volume 32 (2018) Numbers 1-2 Edited by: Edward Anson, Catalina Balmaceda, Michael Fronda, David Hollander, Alex McAuley, Sabine Müller, Joseph Roisman, John Vanderspoel, Pat Wheatley Senior Editor: Timothy Howe Assistant Editor: Charlotte Dunn Editorial correspondents Elizabeth Baynham, Hugh Bowden, Franca Landucci Gattinoni, Alexander Meeus, Kurt Raaflaub, P.J. Rhodes, Robert Rollinger, Victor Alonso Troncoso Contents of volume thirty-two Numbers 1-2 1 Sean Manning, A Prosopography of the Followers of Cyrus the Younger 25 Eyal Meyer, Cimon’s Eurymedon Campaign Reconsidered? 44 Joshua P. Nudell, Alexander the Great and Didyma: A Reconsideration 61 Jens Jakobssen and Simon Glenn, New research on the Bactrian Tax-Receipt NOTES TO CONTRIBUTORS AND SUBSCRIBERS The Ancient History Bulletin was founded in 1987 by Waldemar Heckel, Brian Lavelle, and John Vanderspoel. The board of editorial correspondents consists of Elizabeth Baynham (University of Newcastle), Hugh Bowden (Kings College, London), Franca Landucci Gattinoni (Università Cattolica, Milan), Alexander Meeus (University of Leuven), Kurt Raaflaub (Brown University), P.J. Rhodes (Durham University), Robert Rollinger (Universität Innsbruck), Victor Alonso Troncoso (Universidade da Coruña) AHB is currently edited by: Timothy Howe (Senior Editor: [email protected]), Edward Anson, Catalina Balmaceda, Michael Fronda, David Hollander, Alex McAuley, Sabine Müller, Joseph Roisman, John Vanderspoel and Pat Wheatley. AHB promotes scholarly discussion in Ancient History and ancillary fields (such as epigraphy, papyrology, and numismatics) by publishing articles and notes on any aspect of the ancient world from the Near East to Late Antiquity. -
Perspectivism and the Philosophical Rhetoric of the Dialogue Form
MARINA MCCOY | 49 In reading a Platonic dialogue, we know the Perspectivism and old saying: quot lectores, tot Platones. the Philosophical There are probably as many Platos as there are readers of him. Perhaps it will be a surprise, Rhetoric of the then, for a commentator to begin by saying that Dialogue Form I share a basic agreement with Gonzalez’s per- spectivist approach to the Platonic dialogues. This kind of an approach to the dialogues has guided much of my own teaching and writ- ing about them. The dialogues presuppose an objective truth toward which we are meant to strive, and yet acknowledge that we as seek- ers of this truth are always partial in what we Marina McCoy grasp of its nature. I find this perspectivist ap- Boston College proach warranted by the sorts of examples that [email protected] Gonzalez offers on how topics such as the soul or the forms are treated across dialogues. To this, I would add that perspectivism fits well with the way that the dialogues often treat the ABSTRACT human person as “in between”. The Sympo- sium presents a vision of the human being as In this paper, I support the perspectivist read- “in between” poverty and plenty (Symp. 203 ing of the Platonic dialogues. The dialogues b-204 a). In the Apology, Socrates claims a deep assert an objective truth toward which we are commitment to seeking the truth, coupled with meant to strive, and yet acknowledge that we an equally strong belief that his wisdom is a as seekers of this truth are always partial in human wisdom, one that is better than other what we grasp of its nature. -
Plato's Orpheus: the Philosophical Appropriation of Orphic Formulae
University of New Mexico UNM Digital Repository Foreign Languages & Literatures ETDs Electronic Theses and Dissertations 6-9-2016 Plato's Orpheus: The hiP losophical Appropriation of Orphic Formulae Dannu Hütwohl Follow this and additional works at: https://digitalrepository.unm.edu/fll_etds Recommended Citation Hütwohl, Dannu. "Plato's Orpheus: The hiP losophical Appropriation of Orphic Formulae." (2016). https://digitalrepository.unm.edu/fll_etds/20 This Thesis is brought to you for free and open access by the Electronic Theses and Dissertations at UNM Digital Repository. It has been accepted for inclusion in Foreign Languages & Literatures ETDs by an authorized administrator of UNM Digital Repository. For more information, please contact [email protected]. Dannu J. Hutwohl Foreign Languages and Literatures Professor Lorenzo F. Garcia Jr. Professor Monica S. Cyrino Professor Osman Umurhan by THESIS Submitted in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of The University of New Mexico Albuquerque, New Mexico Acknowledgements I wish to extend a heart felt thanks to all the members of my thesis committee, without whom this project would not have been possible: first and foremost to my brilliant and inspiring advisor and mentor, Dr. Lorenzo F. Garcia Jr., for your endless patience, wisdom, and dedication; Just as the Orphic initiates would have been lost in the darkness of the Underworld without the help of their Gold Tablets, so too would I have been lost in this undertaking without the illuminating light of your golden advice. To Dr. Monica S. Cyrino, for your incredible editing skills and for always believing in and supporting me over the years in countless ways; Just as Demeter moved heaven and earth for Persephone, so too have you nurtured and championed my research. -
Plato As a Wayfinder: to Know Meno, the Robbery Case and the Road to Larissa
Plato as a Wayfinder: To Know Meno, the Robbery Case and the Road to Larissa Yahei Kanayama Among Plato’s illustrations for explaining his view on knowledge, there are three that are noteworthy in that objects of knowledge there suggested are not Forms but perceivable things - despite Plato’s statement in his middle dialogues to the effect that the former are genuine objects of knowledge, with the latter being downgraded to objects of opinion. They are knowledge of Meno ([T1] below), that of the road to Larissa ([T2]), both appearing in the Meno, and knowledge of a robbery ([T3]) in the Theaetetus. [T1] SOCRATES: If I do not know (οἶδα) what something is, how could I know (εἰδείην) what sort of thing it is? Or do you think that someone, who does not know (γιγνώσκει) at all who Meno is, could know (εἰδέναι) whether he is beautiful or wealthy or noble also, or whether just the opposite of each of these is the case? Do you think it is possible? MENO: No, I don’t. (Men. 71B3-7) [T2] SOCRATES: If someone, knowing (εἰδὼς) the road to Larissa or anywhere else you like, goes there by walking and guides others, he will guide them in a right and good way. … But if a man has the right opinion as to what is the road, though he has never been there and doesn't know (ἐπιστάμενος), will he not also guide others aright? MENO: Certainly. (Men. 97A9-B4) [T3] SOCRATES: They [orators and lawyers] persuade people by their skill (τέχνη), not teaching but making them have whatever opinion they like. -
Plato Meno Dramatic-Historical Dating 401 BC
Plato Meno dramatic-historical dating 401 BC Plato Meno dramatic-historical dating 401 BC Ron Jonkvorst Brave New Books ISBN 9789402158083 First revised English edition 2021 © 2021 Ronald Henk Jonkvorst Contents Incorrect and correct dating 5 Introduction 7 Plato’s Meno in the picture 11 Meno, fiction or reality 13 The misconception of 403/402 BC 16 On the way to 401 BC 21 The year 401 29 From Athens to Kolossai 32 Conclusion: fiction or reality 37 Brief bibliography 39 Notes 45 Plato’s Meno, dramatic-historical dating 401 BC Incorrect and correct dating One day, somewhere in Athens, philosopher Sokrates talks about ‘virtue’ with the aristocratic rhetoric student Meno of Pharsalos who is accompanied by his servants and lodges with former dem- ocratic freedom fighter Anytos. For us to figure out when this dia- logue plays. The dramatic date of Plato’s Meno can only be determined meaningfully, the moment character Meno is identified as one of the historical generals in Xenophon’s Anabasis. This military expe- dition left in 401 BC under the leadership of Persian governor Ky- ros intending to overthrow his brother, Great King Artoxerxes II Mnemon. After Kyros got killed, Meno extradites the remaining army command to Artoxerxes’ right-hand man Tissaphernes. At his command centre, under the watchful eye of Zeus, during ‘hos- pitable’ discussions about a benign continuation of their retreat to Greece, twenty captains and some two hundred soldiers are sa- bred down on the spot, four generals lead before the Monarch and the throat cut off, while Meno never returned either, because in the end this vice himself was ordered by Artoxerxes to be exe- cuted in the year 400.