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BIENNIAL BUDGETING HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON RULES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON BIENNIAL BUDGETING: A TOOL FOR IMPROVING GOVERNMENT FISCAL MANAGEMENT AND OVERSIGHT FEBRUARY 16, MARCH 10 AND 16, 2000 Printed for the use of the Committee on Rules ( U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 63±105CC WASHINGTON : 2000 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Washington, DC 20402 VerDate 11-MAY-2000 15:41 Nov 20, 2000 Jkt 066737 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 E:\HEARINGS\63105 pfrm02 PsN: 63105 COMMITTEE ON RULES DAVID DREIER, California, Chairman PORTER GOSS, Florida JOHN JOSEPH MOAKLEY, Massachusetts JOHN LINDER, Georgia MARTIN FROST, Texas DEBORAH PRYCE, Ohio TONY P. HALL, Ohio LINCOLN DIAZ±BALART, Florida LOUISE M. SLAUGHTER, New York DOC HASTINGS, Washington SUE MYRICK, North Carolina PETE SESSIONS, Texas THOMAS REYNOLDS VINCE RANDAZZO, Staff Director ERIC PELLETIER, Deputy Staff Director GEORGE C. CRAWFORD, Minority Staff Director DAVID POMERANTZ, Deputy Minority Staff Director BRYAN H. ROTH, Office and Systems Manager ADAM JARVIS, Staff Assistant SUBCOMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AND BUDGET PROCESS PORTER GOSS, Florida, Chairman DEBORAH PRYCE, Ohio MARTIN FROST, Texas DOC HASTINGS, Washington JOHN JOSEPH MOAKLEY, Massachusetts SUE MYRICK, North Carolina DAVID DREIER, California WENDY SELIG, Staff Director KRISTI WALSETH, Minority Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON RULES AND ORGANIZATION OF THE HOUSE JOHN LINDER, Georgia, Chairman LINCOLN DIAZ±BALART, Florida TONY P. HALL, Ohio PETE SESSIONS, Texas LOUISE M. SLAUGHTER, New York THOMAS REYNOLDS, New York DAVID DREIER, California WILLIAM EVANS, Staff Director MICHAEL GESSEL, Minority Staff Director (II) ii VerDate 11-MAY-2000 15:41 Nov 20, 2000 Jkt 066737 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 E:\HEARINGS\63105 pfrm02 PsN: 63105 C O N T E N T S Page FEBRUARY 19, 2000 Opening statement of the Hon. David Dreier, chairman of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.01] 01 Opening statement of the Hon. Porter J. Goss, chairman of the Subcommittee on Legislative and Budget Process [prepared statement p.06] 04 Opening statement of the Hon. John Joseph Moakley, ranking member of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.8] 07 Opening statement of the Hon. Doc Hastings, a member of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.13] 11 Opening statement of the Hon. Thomas Reynolds, a member of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.15] 14 Opening Statements Submitted for the Record: Opening statement of the Hon. Deborah Pryce, a member of the Committee on Rules 17 Opening statement of the Hon. Pete Sessions, a member of the Committee on Rules 29 Statement of: Hastert, Hon. J. Dennis, Speaker of the House [prepared statement p.24] 21 Young, Hon. C.W. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the State of Florida [prepared statement p.34] ........................................................... 30 Obey, Hon. David, a Representative in Congress from the State of Wis- consin [prepared statement p.43] ................................................................ 37 Regula, Hon. Ralph, a Representative in Congress from the State of Ohio [prepared statement p.62] ................................................................... 60 Price, Hon. David E., a Representative in Congress from the State of North Carolina [prepared statement p.66] ................................................. 64 Knollenberg, Hon. Joe, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michigan [prepared statement p.70] ....................................................... 68 Bass, Hon. Charles F., a Representative in Congress from the State of New Hampshire [prepared statement p.75] ........................................... 74 Smith, Hon. Nick, a Representative in Congress from the State of Michi- gan [prepared statement p.79] ..................................................................... 77 McCarthy, Hon. Karen, a Representative in Congress from the State of Missouri [prepared statement p.82] ........................................................ 81 Barton, Hon. Joe, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas [prepared statement p.84] ............................................................................ 83 Stearns, Hon. Cliff, a Representative in Congress from the State of Flor- ida [prepared statement p.87] ...................................................................... 85 Whitfield, Hon. Edward, a Representative in Congress from the State of Kentucky [prepared statement p.89] ....................................................... 88 Ney, Hon. Robert W., a Representative in Congress from the State of Ohio [prepared statement p.92] ................................................................... 90 Statements Submitted for the Record: Castle, Hon. Michael N., a Representative in Congress from the State of Delaware .................................................................................................... 95 Spratt, Hon. John M., a Representative in Congress from the State of South Carolina .............................................................................................. 97 Luther, Hon. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the State of Min- nesota ............................................................................................................. 99 Additional Material Submitted for the Record: Letter from the Honorable Bob Taft, Governor of Ohio ................................ 19 MARCH 10, 2000 Opening statement of the Hon. David Dreier, chairman of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.103] 101 iii VerDate 11-MAY-2000 15:41 Nov 20, 2000 Jkt 066737 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 E:\HEARINGS\63105 pfrm02 PsN: 63105 Page Opening statement of the Hon. John Joseph Moakley, ranking member of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.106] 104 Statement of: Lew, Hon. Jack, Director of the Office of Management and Budget [pre- pared statement p.127] ................................................................................. 124 Crippen, Dan. L, Director, Congressional Budget Office [prepared state- ment p.147] .................................................................................................... 144 Irving, Dr. Susan J., Associate Director of Budget Issues, General Ac- counting Office [prepared statement p.158] ............................................... 153 Fisher, Lou, Senior Specialist in Seperation of Powers, Congressional Research Service [prepared statement p.174] ............................................ 169 Additional Material Submitted for the Record: CRS Memorandum: Estimated Hours Spent Considering Appropriation, Budget, Reconciliation and Major Tax Bills on the House Floor, 101st ± 105th Congresses ....................................................................................... 108 CRS Memorandum: House Budget±Related Roll±Call Votes, Calendar Years 1990±1999 ........................................................................................... 121 MARCH 16, 2000 Opening statement of the Hon. David Dreier, chairman of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.187] 185 Opening statement of the Hon. John Joseph Moakley, ranking member of the Committee on Rules [prepared statement p.190] 188 Statement of: Hamilton, Hon. Lee, Director, Woodrow Wilson Center [prepared state- ment p.197] .................................................................................................... 185 Mann, Thompas E., W. Averell Harriman Senior Fellow in American Governance, The Brookings Institution [prepared statement p.265] ....... 262 Joyce, Phillip, Associate Professor of Public Administration, School of Business and Public Management, The George Washington University [prepared statement p.271] .......................................................................... 268 Whalen, Charles, Senior Institute Economist, Institute for Industry Stud- ies, Cornell University [prepared statement p.276] ................................... 275 Meyers, Roy T., Associate Professor, Department of Political Science, University of Maryland, Baltimore County [prepared statement p.283] . 280 Frenzel, Hon. William, Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget [pre- pared statement p.290] ................................................................................. 288 Bixby, Robert, Executive Director, Concord Coalition [prepared statement p.295] ............................................................................................................. 292 Horney, James, Senior Fellow, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities [prepared statement p.307] .......................................................................... 300 Regalia, Dr. Martin, Vice President of Economic Policy and Chief Econo- mist, U.S. Chamber of Commerce [prepared statement p.313] ................. 311 Snell, Ronald, Economic and Fiscal Division Director, National Con- ference of State Legislatures [prepared statement p.317] ......................... 315 Panetta, Hon. Leon, Director, The Panetta Institute (via video conference) [prepared statement p.332] .......................................................................... 325 Additional Material Submitted for the Record: Letter from the Honorable Gary Locke, Governor of Washington ............... 192 Report by Walter J. Oleszek, Issues for the 21st Century Congress ........... 201 Paper by Robert Greenstein, Biennial Budgeting .......................................... 301 Letter from