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CANADA House of Commons Debates VOLUME 137 Ï NUMBER 80 Ï 1st SESSION Ï 37th PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Tuesday, September 18, 2001 Speaker: The Honourable Peter Milliken CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) All parliamentary publications are available on the ``Parliamentary Internet Parlementaire´´ at the following address: http://www.parl.gc.ca 5215 HOUSE OF COMMONS Tuesday, September 18, 2001 The House met at 10 a.m. ORDER IN COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS Mr. Geoff Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of Prayers the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I am honoured to table, in both official languages, a number of order in council appointments made recently by the government. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Ï (1005) GOVERNMENT ORDERS [English] ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND PRIVACY ACTS [English] Mr. John O'Reilly (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of ALLOTTED DAYANTI-TERRORISM LEGISLATION National Defence, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), I have the pleasure to table, in both official languages, two Mr. Kevin Sorenson (Crowfoot, Canadian Alliance) moved: copies of the National Defence and Canadian Forces ombudsman That this House call upon the government to introduce anti-terrorism legislation 2000-01 annual report to parliament on the administration of the similar in principle to the United Kingdom's Terrorism Act, 2000, and that such Access to Information and Privacy Acts. legislation provide for: the naming of all known international terrorist organizations operating in Canada; *** a complete ban on fundraising activities in support of terrorism, and provisions for [Translation] the seizure of assets belonging to terrorists or terrorist organizations; COURTS ADMINISTRATION SERVICE ACT the immediate ratification of the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism; Hon. Denis Coderre (for the Minister of Justice and Attorney the creation of specific crimes for engaging in terrorist training activities in General of Canada) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-30, an act Canada or inciting terrorist acts abroad from Canada; to establish a body that provides administrative services to the the prompt extradition of foreign nationals charged with acts of terrorism, even if Federal Court of Appeal, the Federal Court, the Court Martial the charges are capital offences; and Appeal Court and the Tax Court of Canada, to amend the Federal the detention and deportation to their country of origin of any people illegally in Court Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act and the Judges Act, and to Canada or failed refugee claimants who have been linked to terrorist make related and consequential amendments to other Acts. organizations. (Motions deemed adopted and bill read the first time and printed.) He said: Mr. Speaker, before I begin I would like to notify you that *** I will be splitting my time with my leader, the leader of the official [English] opposition. QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER It's the end of the age of complacency. That was a headline in the National Post yesterday. Under this heading we read: Mr. Geoff Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I Security will become the dominant policy agenda in Canada for the foreseeable ask that all questions be allowed to stand. future...If there are new resources to be had, the security side of government will be able to lay claim to them a lot better, a lot faster and a lot quicker than other sectors. I would also like to request permission to table documents. I will believe that when I see it. Unfortunately I am not confident The Speaker: Is it agreed that all questions stand? that we will maintain the heightened vigilance enacted following the horrific events of September 11. I know that those concerns are also Some hon. members: Agreed. shared by the former commissioner of our Royal Canadian Mounted The Speaker: Is it agreed that we revert to tabling of documents? Police, Norman Inkster. Some hon. members: Agreed. During a recent interview, Mr. Inkster said: 5216 COMMONS DEBATES September 18, 2001 Supply My concern is, just as has occurred in the past, we get a knee-jerk reaction and asked that for those caught supporting terrorist activities in any way, tighten everything up and a few months or a year from now we are back to where we shape or form, here or abroad, criminal charges with severe penalties were. Then we open the door to these kinds of people perpetrating similar events in the future. If we are serious about securityand we ought to bethen let's decide be handed down. the appropriate level, let's fund it accordingly and let's maintain it. Our biggest risk is complacency. I am afraid that despite the mortal threat we and other democratic nations face, Canada will eventually grow lax, especially if bin The solicitor general rejected such recommendations. He did so Laden, the United States' prime suspect, bides his time. despite knowing from intelligence sources that terrorist groups from around the world were and are extremely active in Canada, raising As Andrew Coyne of the Post writes: funds for bomb plots or other violent activities. the enemy we face presents a unique combination: of enormous ambition, extraordinary capacity, and fanatical determination, such that he is willing to kill himself as well as others...If he is truly fiendish, he may do nothing for a time, until we grow lax, or tired, or bored, and forget what all the fuss was about. Then he will strike again. As stated earlier, we are formally asking that the government Our response to the tragic events in the United States cannot be immediately consider the question of anti-terrorism legislation limited to avenging this one atrocity. We cannot simply launch a similar in principle to the United Kingdom's terrorism act 2000. quick retaliatory strike against the immediate culprits. Canada must, That legislation provides for the following: first, the naming of all as President Bush has promised Americans, launch a massive and known international terrorist organizations operating in Canada; sustained campaign against international terrorism in general. second, a complete ban on fundraising activities in support of However, as pointed out numerous times in the House yesterday, terrorism and provisions for the seizure of assets belonging to our security and intelligence agencies, like our national defence terrorists or terrorist organizations; third, the immediate ratification forces, have been starved for so long that the Canadian public is not of the International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing confident that we have the capacity to fight such a sustained war. of Terrorism; fourth, the creation of specific crimes for engaging in terrorist activities in Canada or inciting terrorist activities abroad; We are not confident that our present laws allow for apprehension fifth, the prompt extradition of foreign nationals charged with acts of and retention of terrorists and their associates. Therefore, today the terrorism, even if the charges are capital offences; sixth, the Canadian Alliance asks the Government of Canada to immediately detention and deportation to their country of origin of people consider the question of anti-terrorism legislation. illegally in Canada or who are failed refugee claimants who have been linked to terrorist organizations. I would like to point out that this request was not born solely out of last week's events. We on this side of the House have been urging the Liberal government for some time to get tough with organized criminals, to eradicate senseless acts of violence, to effectively close the doors to undesirable migrants who so readily and easily take As lead critic for the official opposition, I am asking the solicitor advantage of our generosity, and also to make aiding and abetting general to effectively equip, adequately fund and sufficiently terrorists an offence. empower CSIS and the RCMP. We must ensure that our first lines of defence against terrorism can do their job, including all emerging Before I proceed, I will say to you, Mr. Speaker, and to my threats. What types of threats? There is perhaps the threat of anthrax, colleagues that I mean no disrespect or animosity toward any of the the threat of a potentially deadly biological weapon for terrorists, many of the legitimate and trustworthy immigrants making Canada which could decimate the population of any metropolitan area. Yet their home. We know that the vast majority of these people are law despite general security warnings in 1998 regarding the possibility of abiding citizens who have and will continue to contribute to the anthrax being brought into this country, the government has done economic well-being of our nation as well as the cultural mosaic of nothing to prepare us against a potential attack. the country. I refer only to those individuals who seek Canada as a stage, a stage to wage war against the United States and other nations. On April 30 during the second reading of Bill C-16 I stood in the As recommended by an expert from John Hopkins University, we House and said: should be stockpiling drugs and vaccines and developing and If curbing the operation of terrorist front groups truly was the goal, we could distributing rapid tests for agents and we should come up with emulate Great Britain's terrorism act 2000, which empowers cabinet to ban from its effective ways of isolating infected people. country any organization that it believes is involved in terrorist activities. The law proscribes any group if it commits or participates in acts of terrorism; if it prepares for terrorism; if it promotes or encourages terrorism; or if it is otherwise concerned in terrorism either in the United Kingdom or abroad.