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Burgi, Philip (Phil) H., Oral History Interview ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEWS Philip (Phil) H. Burgi Ë Ë Ë Ë Ë Ë STATUS OF INTERVIEWS: OPEN FOR RESEARCH Ë Ë Ë Ë Ë Ë Interviews Conducted and Edited by: Brit Allan Storey and Michael Jackson Bureau of Reclamation Ë Ë Ë Ë Ë Ë Interviews conducted–1999 Interviews edited and published–2010 Oral History Program Bureau of Reclamation Denver, Colorado SUGGESTED CITATION: BURGI, PHILIP (PHIL) H., ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEW. Transcript of tape- recorded Bureau of Reclamation Oral History Interviews conducted by Brit Allan Story, Senior Historian, Bureau of Reclamation, and Michael Jackson, a volunteer, in 1999, in Denver, Colorado. Edited by Brit Allan Storey. Repository for the record copy of the interview transcript is the National Archives and Records Administration in College Park, Maryland. Record copies of this transcript are printed on 20 lb., 100% cotton, archival quality paper. All other copies are printed on normal duplicating paper. i Table of Contents Table of Contents.............................................................. i Brief Chronology of Career .....................................................xx Statement of Donation........................................................ xxi Introduction ............................................................... xxiii Oral History Interviews.........................................................1 Born in Franklin, Pennsylvania, in 1942 ......................................1 Moved to Ajo, Arizona, in 1946 for Sister’s Health .............................1 Returned to Ohio in 1951 after Dad’s Death in a Mining Accident .................1 Attended the University of Akron, Graduating in Civil Engineering in 1965 ..........2 Went into the Peace Corps for Serve in Chile for Two Years ......................2 Thought He Would Be Teaching in the University, but Ended up Working as a Civil Engineer in a Small Village, Temuco ..................................2 Wife Worked in a Hospital as a Medical Technologist ...........................2 Three Days a Week Worked with Other Peace Corps Volunteers Working to Move the Village of Trovolhue out of an Area Prone to Flooding ....................2 During Their Second Year in Chile He Taught Mathematics at the Catholic University of Chile in Temuco...................................................2 December of 1967 Completed Their Service in Chile and Moved to Fort Collins to Work Toward a Master’s Degree in Civil Engineering..........................2 Assigned to the Hydraulics Laboratory at Reclamation in June of 1969 .............3 “. went through about a six-month rotation period, through planning and concrete dams and a couple of other groups here in Denver, and then was permanently assigned to hydraulics lab in probably January of 1970. .” .........................3 How an Interest in Engineering Developed....................................3 “The water aspect of it probably came on . at University of Akron. We had a senior project, and the one I did was in the hydraulics part of the lab . a study on a culvert and how to pass water under a roadway. .” ......................3 “. engineering has always been of interest to me. I enjoy how things work, and I enjoy the history of how civilization has developed over time, and realized that civil engineering is a big part of that. .”...................................4 “. water did capture my interest. You start looking at essentials in life, and water is one of those, in my mind. I think the Peace Corps helped me appreciate that some, too, in the fact that you realize in these small villages that water was really important. .”...............................................................4 “Many villagers have to go miles to find good-quality water. Others live without good- quality water, and because of the diarrhea and the other issues dealing with children, many of them die at a very young age. So, yes, I think water’s critical. .” ...4 At One Point Wanted to Serve as a Christian Missionary, but Found the Mission Boards Were Only Interested in Preachers ....................................4 With a Quaker Background, a Service Mentality, and Lack of Interest in the Vietnam Oral history of Philip (Phil) H. Burgi ii Conflict, Turned Toward the Peace Corps ...............................5 “. basically we worked with the government officials to encourage the people to move from their old land, which flooded every winter, and which had no electricity, and promised them this new land with a new school, electricity, and much better living conditions . .”....................................................5 “He was really a liberal arts graduate from Berkeley that had been in jail a couple of times over the Vietnam War situation and was glad to get out of the U.S. at that moment. But they were a great couple to work with. .” ..........................6 Returned to Trovolhue in 1980 and Found the Relocated Village Doing Well ........6 Taught Trigonometry and Advanced Algebra ..................................7 The Political Situation in Chile .............................................7 “. the Peace Corps will always be one of the highlights in my life . we learned so much about ourselves being away from our families for two and a half years. I had only been married six months, and we lived for two and a half years without a refrigerator and [in] a house without hot water and without our own bathroom. .” ................................................................7 “. the Peace Corps had a little problem trying to place both of us. .” ............8 While in the Peace Corps Were Paid Something like $90 a Month Each in a Bank Account in the U.S. and about $150 a Month for Living Expenses in Chile ............8 “. it was up to us to find our own housing. We enjoy traveling so much that we chose to live in a fairly economical housing situation . But then we traveled to Argentina and Peru and Chile and Brazil, quite a bit of traveling within Chile. I think we were given like maybe three weeks a year to travel . [we’d] save up our money to do those types of activities. .” .........................................9 “Our team that went to Chile, we trained at UCLA for three months and then also a month in Puerto Rico. The team of forty of us, and we were spread all across Chile . .” ................................................................9 “We were the only university education group in the country . .” .................9 Engineering Challenges in Surveying the New Town Site........................9 “. it was a real challenge, but it was driven by the fact that the government really wanted to move this village, and the church provided the land and USAID provided some help . .”........................................................10 “. I often heard the comment, they were down there for a couple of years to try to find themselves. I think Kay and I knew who we were; that was not the issue in our case. We just wanted to do something of service. .” ...................10 Applied to Colorado State University from Chile, Partially Because He Wanted to Expose His Wife to the West ..............................................10 Was Interested in Water Projects and Working for Reclamation ..................10 “. I think I got a little bit better of a scholarship offer from Colorado State. I don’t recall, but it was probably . 400 [a month], maybe, from the school, and rent was a couple of hundred dollars. .” .....................................11 “. they had a program there that I was able to get a scholarship with the Agricultural Research Service out at their foothills campus, and, of course, took the class work and then also worked on a thesis on the loss of water in a unlined canal . ”...11 “. at Colorado State, I think the two things was the fact that it was in the West and this good friend of mine suggested that they had–I think in 1965 they had just built a new engineering research facility out at the foothills campus . .” ...........11 Attended the University of Akron for Five Years Because the Last Two Years Were Spent Bureau of Reclamation History Program iii Working Half Time in a Co-op Program with the Ohio Highway Department . 11 Applied to Reclamation, the Corps of Engineers in Vicksburg, and the Salt River Project ...............................................................12 Accepted an Offer by Reclamation Which Reclamation Subsequently Tried to Withdraw ...............................................................12 Went to Work in the Hydraulics Lab in 1969 .................................12 How He Became Interested in Reclamation at the University of Akron .............12 Emory Lane and Jim Carlson..............................................13 “. probably the thing that drew me to the Bureau more than anything else was the laboratory. .” ..................................................13 “. I just always felt very fortunate that I could get into the hydraulics lab. .” .....13 “Fort Collins was a good place. Aggie Village was the little married student housing, which was a very special place for us. We actually had hot water and we had a washer and dryer right across the street from us. We had our own bathroom, and we had nice furniture and we had a TV. These are things that we hadn’t seen for two and a half years in Chile . .”........................................15 Liked Fort Collins as a Place to Live ........................................15 Planning an Experiment to Measure Water Loss in Unlined Canals................16 “In research, you don’t want
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