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MODELING DETAILS-SOUTHERN Reference Source: http://www.hosam.com/srr/srr.html Southern Check Digits 08/23/98 SEMRA list Not sure if I can make this simple but here goes: Southern used A, F, H, J, K, L, R, T, W & X on their engines. let us assign numbers to the above digits A=0, F=1, H=2, J=3, K=4, L=5, R=6,T=7, W=8 AND X=9. Take the engine number say 3971 which is an X. Add first number to 2 times the second number plus the third number plus 2 times the fourth number. 3+(2*9)+7+(2*1)= now this won’t work if the formula is applied straight away. If any result such as (2*9) which is 18 then you use the two digits in 18 as 1+8. Now the formula becomes 3+(1+8)+7+2=21. WE are not there yet. You subtract the answer from the next larger even number in units of 10. In this example this would be 30-21=9 OR X. Another example might be engine 701 which is a J. Since there are only 3 digits simply put a zero in front. This will give 0+(2*7)+0+(2*1)= 0+(1+4)+0+(2)=7 10-7=3 which is J. ATLAS HIGH-HOOD GP-38'S Guys, I was just looking over one of the new Atlas GP-38HH models and I noticed a detail part that was missing from the shell and one that some of you may want to add. The part that I'm referring to is the toilet water fill hatch which is found on either side of the short hood of most all SOUTHERN locomotives. Poop chute (SMRF term), part 24 in all Cannon Hi-Hood kits, look and I'll bet you didn't install them! Don't forget the label just above them. And that's the fireman’s side of the short hood. Referring to my SOUTHERN books and my photo collection, I see that the GP-38's (and AC’s) that had this feature always located on the left side of the short hood. Not all my photos show this hatch so if you want to leave it off, you can do so and still be prototypical. GP-38 & 38AC's were usually on fireman’s side of short hood. GP-38-2's were generally on the engineers side of short hood. Let me offer you a suggestion as to how to add this part and even how to add it to decorated models. Go to your favorite art or engineering supply store and purchase an engineer's drawing template....mine is made by Template Designs, part no. TD 422. On this template is a series of squares and one of them is the correct size for the water hatch. You may have to trim the template to use it, but be sure to leave a square side so as to be able to line up the cuts you are about to make. Lay the template on the short hood and scribe the outline of the square onto the model. Now drill a series of small holes within the lines of this square and remove this portion of the plastic. Trim the edges VERY, VERY carefully to get a tight fit and file smooth with any small files you may have on hand. Please take your time trimming the square by cutting once, fitting twice. After you are satisfied with your fit, paint the hatch, let dry and secure with your choice of cement. Don't forget to add a sand filler on short hood after filling in the hole left by moving the bell to long hood end. How about the fuel filters under the walkway on fireman’s side just after the notch?? Renumber to 2741 and you won't have to fiddle with the fuel tanks! Renumber 2803 to 2879, add spark arresters and the "John A. Chambliss" under fireman’s window, install the "poop chute" up a bit higher than the 2741. And last of all don't forget to move the "F" from the short end to the long end, and turn the engineer around so he's facing the right way. This was a retro-fit, and the as delivered units did not have this hatch. Those modeling newly delivered units in the late 1960s and early to mid-1970s would not need this part. It appeared that Southern began adding these in late 1970s-early 1980s time frame. Warren Calloway SOUTHERN CABOOSES Let's take a stab at the Southern steel caboose. In 1941 and '42 the Southern built a number of steel, bay-window cabooses at the Spartanburg shops from old stock cars and drop bottom gons. These were 38' and numbered X2282-2929. They had rounded rear roof corners. From '48-51 new all-steel bay window cabooses were built: X3139-3270. Some of these were rebuilt in '52 with welded sides. The X6868 series -- still 38' -- was built in '51 onward. All of these critters look 'about' the same. You can fake an Athearn the hard way or the easy way. Easy, slice the bay-window roof to about 60 degrees, cement on a flat hunk of styrene and call it a night. You can replace the walkways, making the floor square all around, as opposed to Athearn’s indented steps -- and apply box-style steps. Check Walthers, somebody makes a white metal part that works with minimum filing. You can fabricate new sides out of styrene to get the window spacing correct. SRR cabooses have four evenly spaced, even sized windows per side, plus three in the bay. Then get one round porthole per end, cover the existing end and you're kinda close. Microscale makes the decals on a minisheet, if memory serves. The Walthers bay-window caboose is really a better starting place. It's closer to the right length, the bay roof is okay, the side windows are wrong, the steps are closer, but the indent on the end platforms is wrong again. Somebody knows better, but I think the Athearn bay is based on a SP prototype. I use it for my own road, because it's really close to a second run of bay-window cabooses the P&LE bought. But I do pretend, er, proto-freelancing. I love the Southern, it's Alexandria Union Station is just a mile from my driveway, but I model the NYC and it's kin circa 63. There are reference books out there, go get'em. Bernie Halloran Southern Railway Subsidiary Cabooses (late-60s to late-80s) Numbers Road Type Notes X4-X97 C.G. wood cupola caboose - new (which numbers?) X90 C.G. wood cupola caboose - new, rptd. S.R. X10-X15 INT. wood cupola caboose - new (not all carried "X" after merger). X16 INT. wood cupola caboose - ex-N.&W. X20-X21 INT. wood cupola caboose - ex-DL&W. 614, 670. X25-X35 CR&N. bay window caboose - new. (one # skipped?). X65-X67 G&F. steel cupola caboose - new? X70-X71 TA&G. bay window caboose - acquired 1961, ex-S.R. X122 GAS&C. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. (ex-3122?) X153 GA.No. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. (ex-3153?) X251-X253 S&A. steel cupola caboose - new. X255-X256 S&A. steel cupola caboose - ex-Reading (?). X258-X259 Tenn. bay window caboose - ex-209-210, ex-S.R. (309) A&EC. bay window caboose - retired late-60s. X400 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Southern Iron & Equip. 6/69. X485 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Gantt 1970. X515 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Gantt 11-70. X592 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Gantt 9-71. X600 GS&F. bay window caboose - ex-X8543. X2912 G&F. bay window caboose - round roof, ex-S.R. X2919 CG. bay window caboose - round roof, ex-S.R. X2924 A&N. bay window caboose - round roof, ex-S.R. X3099 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3118 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3136 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3149 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3151 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3156 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R., sold to P.C./CR. 18439. X3169 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3172 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R., sold to P.C./CR. 18441. X3201 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3227 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3265 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3291 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X3312 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. X6060-X6068 AGS. bay window caboose X6895 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-NO&NE. X6900 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-NO&NE. X6905 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-NO&a Information from Jerry M. LaBoda 08/20/01 WALKWAY LIGHTS Southern Railway had walkway lights on their units. These were mounted on the side of the hood near the roof to illuminate the locomotive's walkways and I think SR is the only railroad that used them. In the past when I was > in Seattle I have used fairly expensive brass castings that came from a small manufacturing source. Does anyone make these things in plastic? At a lower cost? Alton Lanier Details West has had these for some time now. Part #172, 8 for $1.25.