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LOK SABHA DEBATES
(Part I -- Proceedings with Questions and Answers)
The House met at Eleven of the Clock.
Tuesday, December 1, 2015/ Agrahayana 10, 1937 (Saka)
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LOK SABHA DEBATES
PART I – QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS Tuesday, December 1, 2015/ Agrahayana 10, 1937 (Saka)
CONTENTS PAGES
RULING RE: NOTICES OF ADJOURNMENT MOTION 1
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ORAL ANSWERS TO STARRED QUESTIONS 2A-24 (S.Q. NO. 21 TO 23)
WRITTEN ANSWERS TO STARRED QUESTIONS 25-41 (S.Q. NO. 24 TO 40)
WRITTEN ANSWERS TO UNSTARRED QUESTIONS 42-271 (U.S.Q. NO. 231 TO 460)
For Proceedings other than Questions and Answers, please see Part II.
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LOK SABHA DEBATES
(Part II - Proceedings other than Questions and Answers)
Tuesday, December 01 2015/ Agrahayana 10, 1937 (Saka)
Please see the Supplement also
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LOK SABHA DEBATES PART II –PROCEEDINGS OTHER THAN QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS Tuesday, December 01, 2015/Agrahayana 10, 1937 (Saka)
C ON T E N T S P A G E S
PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 272-73
STANDING COMMITTEE ON CHEMICALS AND 274 FERTILIZERS 13 th to 16 th Reports
STANDING COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORT, 274-75 TOURISM AND CULTURE (i) 224 th Report (ii) 225 th and 226 th Reports
MOTION RE: 22 ND REPORT OF BUSINESS 275 ADVISORY COMMITTEE
SPECIAL MENTIONS 276-90
MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 – LAID 291-91Y
Shri Bhanu Pratap Singh Verma 291-A Shri Sunil Kumar Singh 291-B Shrimati Rakshatai Khadse 291-C Shri Chhedi Paswan 291-D Shri Bhairon Prasad Mishra 291-E Shri Gajendra Singh Shekhawat 291-F Shri Sharad Tripathi 291-G Shrimati Riti Pathak 291-H Shri Vishnu Dayal Ram 291-I Shri Sukhbir Singh Jaunpuria 291-J Shri Nana Patole 291-K Shri Rahul Kaswan 291-L Shri Nishikant Dubey 291-M
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Shri Ravindra Kumar Pandey 291-N Shri D.K. Suresh 291-O Shri Anto Antony 291-P Shri Mullappally Ramachandran 291-Q Shri P.R. Sundaram 291-R Dr. K. Kamaraj 291-S Dr. Ratna De Nag 291-T Shri Rabindra Kumar Jena 291-U Shri Shrirang Appa Barne 291-V Shri Kesineni Srinivas 291-W Shri Radheshyam Biswas 291-X Shri Kunwar Haribansh Singh 291-Y
DISCUSSION RE: SITUATION ARISING OUT OF 292-461 INCIDENTS OF INTOLERANCE IN THE COUNTRY Continued - Concluded
Shri P. Kumar 292-97 Shri Gajanan Kirtikar 298-99 Shri Jayadev Galla 300-04 Shri A.P. Jithender Reddy 305-08 …. 309 Shri Varaprasad Rao 310-14 *Dr. Subhash Bhamre 315-15A *Shri P.C. Mohan 316-16A *Shri Hukum Singh 317-17A *Shri Rajeev Satav 318-18C *Shri Y.V. Subba Reddy 319-19B
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*Shri C.R. Chaudhary 320-20D *Shri Mullapally Ramachandran 321-21C *Shri P.P. Chaudhary 322-22B *Shri Bhanu Pratap Singh Verma 323 *Shri Mukesh Rajput 324-24B Shrimati Supriya Sule 325-30 *Shrimati Butta Renuka 331-31B *Shri Devji M. Patel 332-32A Shri Dharmendra Yadav 333-37 *Kumari Shobha Karandlaje 338-38B *Shrimati Aparupa Poddar 339-39A #Shri Prem Singh Chandumajra 340-44 *Kumari Sushmita Dev 345-46 Shri Jay Prakash Narayan Yadav 347-49 *Shri P. Karunakaran 350-50F *Shri P.K. Biju 351-51A Md. Badaruddoza Khan 352-53 Shri Dharam Vira Gandhi 354-55 Shrimati Kirron Kher 356-64 … 365 *Shri Sumedhanand Saraswati 366 *Shri Sharad Tripathi 367 *Dr. Ratna De (Nag) 368-68A *Dr. Kirit Somaiya 369 *Shri D.K. Suresh 370-70B *Shri B.S. Yediyurappa 371-71B
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*Adv. Joice George 372-72B *Shrimati Kothapalli Geetha 373-73B Dr. Shashi Tharoor 374-76 *Shri Bhairon Prasad Mishra 377 *Shri C.P. Joshi 378 *Dr. Virender Kumar 379-79C *Shri Sudheer Gupta 380 *Shri Alok Sanjar 381-82 Prof. Sugata Bose 383-88 *Shri Keshav Prasad Maurya 389-90 *Shri Dilip Gandhi 391-91A Shri Radheshyam Biswas 392-93 *Dr. Boora Narsaiah Goud 394-95 *Shri Radwal Nagar 396 Shri Dushyant Singh Chautala 397 *Shri Ajay Mishra Teni 398 *Shri A.T. Nana Patil 399-99C *Shri Subhash Patel 400 *Shri Yashwant Singh 401 Shri E.T. Mohammed Basheer 402-03 Shrimati Anupriya Patel 404-05 Shri Kiren Rijiju 406-10 *Shrimati Rama Devi 411-11B Shri Asaduddin Owaisi 412-14 Shri Rahul Gandhi 415-23
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*Kunwar Pushpendra Singh Chandel 424-25 *Dr. Kulamani Samal 426-26B *Shri S.P. Muddahanume Gowda 427-27B *Shri Konda Vishweshwar Reddy 428-28C Shri Pralhad Joshi 429-32 … 433-34 *Shri R. Dhruvanarayana 435 Shri Kaushalendra Kumar 436 @Shri C.N. Jayadevan 437-37D Shri N.K. Premachandran 438-39 … 440 Shri Rajnath Singh 441-58 … 459-61
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* Laid on the Table @ For English translation of the speech made by the Hon’ble Member in Malayalam, please see the supplement (PP 437A-437D)
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(a1/1100/rbn/sk) 1100 hours (Hon. Speaker in the Chair )
RULING RE: NOTICES OF ADJOURNMENT MOTION
HON. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I have received the following notices of Adjounrment Motion:- Shri E. Ahamed has given a notice regarding growing intolerance in the country. We are discussing it just now. The matter is already being discussed in the House. Shri P. Karunakaran has given notice regarding rise in prices. Prof. Saugata Roy and Prof. K.V. Thomas have given notices demanding discussion on Prime Minister’s meeting with his Pakistan counterpart in Paris. Shri Adhir Ranjan Chowdhury has given notice regarding starvation deaths of tea workers in West Bengal. Shrimati P.K. Shreemathi Teacher has given notice regarding violence against women in India. The matters, though important enough, do not warrant interruption of business of the day. The issues can be raised through other means. I have, therefore, disallowed all the notices of Adjournment Motion. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: You can raise it afterwards. Yesterday also it has happened. Every now and then it comes. Now, Question Hour. Question No. 21, Kumari Sushmita Dev. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: What is this? You have not given any notice.
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… ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please sit down. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Only Kumari Sushmita Dev’s remarks will go on record. Nothing else will go on record. … ( Interruptions )… (Not recorded)
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(Q. 21) KUMARI SUSHMITA DEV (SILCHAR): Madam Speaker, I have received the answer of the hon. Home Minister. It has been stated here that in the year 2014, 644 communal incidents have been reported; and in the year 2015, up to the month of October, 650 communal incidents have been reported. An attempt was made to define ‘communal violence’ in the Communal Violence Bill. 26 iÉÉ®ÉÒJÉ BÉEÉä àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ MÉßc àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ xÉä BÉEcÉ lÉÉ ÉÊBÉE ºÉèBÉDªÉÖãÉÉÊ®VàÉ BÉEÉ àÉiÉãÉ¤É {ÉÆlÉÉÊxÉ®{ÉäFÉiÉÉ cÉäxÉÉ SÉÉÉÊcA* àÉä®É |ɶxÉ cè ÉÊBÉE BÉDªÉÉ MÉßc àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ BÉEàªÉÖxÉãÉ ´ÉÉAãÉåºÉ BÉEÉÒ {ÉÉÊ®£ÉÉ−ÉÉ àÉå {ÉÆlÉ +ÉÉvÉÉÉÊ®iÉ PÉ]xÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ BÉEÉä
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Report has explicitly named the leaders of the Samajwadi Party and the BJP Party who have been involved in the Muzzafarnagar riots. gÉÉÒ ÉÊBÉE®äxÉ ÉÊ®VÉÉÒVÉÚ : àÉèbàÉ, VÉ¤É ÉÊBÉEºÉÉÒ £ÉÉÒ ®ÉVªÉ àÉå BÉEÉä<Ç PÉ]xÉÉ PÉ]iÉÉÒ cè, =ºÉBÉEÉä näJÉxÉä BÉEÉÒ nÉä iÉ®c BÉEÉÒ |ÉÉʵÉEªÉÉ BÉEÉä càÉ ãÉÉäMÉ {ÉEÉäãÉÉä BÉE®iÉä cé* ABÉE iÉÉä VÉÉä xÉÉìàÉÇãÉ ãÉÉì AÆb +ÉÉìbÇ® ÉʺÉSÉÖA¶ÉxÉ cè, ´Éc ]Éä]ãÉÉÒ º]ä] ºÉ¤ÉVÉäBÉD] cè, =ºÉàÉå ®ÉVªÉ BÉEÉä ÉÊb{ÉEÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 13 January to October, 2015 vis-à-vis the corresponding period last year. Added to this, in the last four months alone, there are 300 communal incidents, on an average 75 per month or two-and-a-half communal incidents per day. (c1/1110/brv-ind) I will refer to Article 15 and Article 25. Does the constitution provide for the very concept of communal violence in the country? That is the fundamental question that we are trying to debate today. Article 15 is very clear. It is about prohibition of discrimination on grounds of religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth.… (Interruptions ) Article 25 is on freedom of conscience and free profession, practice and propagation of religion. We have heard yesterday from the Opposition and the Treasury Benches about communal violence. HON. SPEAKER: Please put the question. SHRI RABINDRA KUMAR JENA (BALASORE): I am coming to that. Yesterday, there were allegations and counter allegations during that debate. Do the countrymen need this? The hon. Home Minister was there yesterday. He was asking for suggestions. I am putting it to the hon. Home Minister, through you, Madam. Let him come to Odisha. In my constituency Balasore, there is a place called Bagda village in P.S. Bahabalpur. For the last 70 years, it is showing to the whole nation, to the whole world how peaceful coexistence can happen. For all the Muslim festivals, the Hindus are celebrating and they are taking the lead and for all the Hindu festivals, the Muslims are taking the lead. It is happening for the last 70 years.… ( Interruptions ) The country must follow this. I am inviting the Home Minister to come and see for himself and propagate that. Dadri is not the only issue that can be discussed on the floor of the House. There are good things happening in this country.… ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: This is not the question. What are you doing? I am sorry. There is no question here. Next, Shri Yogi Adityanath. SHRI RABINDRA KUMAR JENA (BALASORE): My question to the home Minister is this. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 14 HON. SPEAKER: You are asking no question. This is not the way to put a supplementary. THE MINISTER OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT, MINISTER OF HOUSING AND URBAN POVERTY ALLEVIATION AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU): Madam, I am not on this issue but I will make a small correction. The hon. Member inadvertently said that the suggestion for the celebration of Ambedkar Jayanti, the Constitution Day was given by my friend Shri Tathagata Satpathy. Shri Tathagata Satpathy supported that idea but the original suggestion was from Shri Bhartruhari Mahtab. It is just for the record sake. HON. SPEKAER: It is all right. Hon. Minister, there is no question put by Shri Jena. He has invited you. You can go and see. SHRI RABINDRA KUMAR JENA (BALASORE): My question to the hon. Minister is this. How do you ensure that communal violence does not repeat in this country? This is my specific question. SHRI KIREN RIJIJU: Madam, first of all, I will definitely visit the suggested place by the hon. Member but he has not actually extended any invitation so far. Regarding communal violence which he has mentioned, if you see the figures of 2013 and now, the number of communal incidents in this country has substantially come down. The hon. Member has not mentioned that. As I have stated in the earlier answer to the question, some of the incidents happened.… (Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Hon. Minister, you go on. Nothing will go on record except the hon. Minister’s reply. Every time, you contest. I am sorry. Hon. Minister, you go ahead with it. … ( Interruptions )… (Not recorded) SHRI KIREN RIJIJU: The incident which we mentioned is communal in nature and it has a larger impact on society. In this year, 2015, there are only four communal incidents so far till the month of October. I do not want to go back 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 15 again to cite all the incidents that happened during the UPA regime. I will not go into that.… ( Interruptions ) Since the hon. Member has stated this, I want to make the record straight that the incidents have not gone up since our Party has come to power. In fact, it has come down. àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +É£ÉÉÒ =ºÉ {É® +ÉÉvÉÉÉÊ®iÉ +ÉÉvÉä PÉÆ]ä BÉEÉÒ SÉSÉÉ Ç xÉcÉÓ cÉä ºÉBÉEiÉÉÒ cè* +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉÉn àÉå <ºÉ {É® xÉÉäÉÊ]ºÉ nä nÉÒÉÊVÉA* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: Nothing else will go on record. … ( Interruptions )… (Not recorded) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É |ɶxÉ {ÉÚU ãÉÉÒÉÊVÉA, ÉʤÉxÉÉ xÉÉäÉÊ]ºÉ +ÉÉvÉä PÉÆ]ä BÉEÉÒ SÉSÉÉÇ xÉcÉÓ cÉä ºÉBÉEiÉÉÒ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) ªÉÉäMÉÉÒ +ÉÉÉÊniªÉxÉÉlÉ (MÉÉä®JÉ{ÉÖ®) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, ãÉÉäBÉEiÉÆjÉ BÉEÉ +ÉÉvÉÉ® ºÉàÉiÉÉ, xªÉÉªÉ +ÉÉè® ¤ÉÆvÉÖkÉÉ cÉäiÉÉÒ cè* <ºÉàÉå +Éã{ɺÉÆJªÉBÉE +ÉÉè® ¤ÉcÖºÉÆJªÉBÉE BÉEä +ÉÉvÉÉ® {É® ºÉàÉÉVÉ BÉEÉä ¤ÉÉÆ]xÉÉ +É{ÉxÉä +ÉÉ{É àÉå àÉcÉ{ÉÉ{É cè* àÉé ABÉE +ÉÉÆBÉE½É näxÉÉ SÉÉcÚÆMÉÉ ÉÊBÉE ´É−ÉÇ 1970-71 àÉå <ºÉ nä¶É BÉEä +ÉÆn® ºÉÉÆ|ÉnÉÉʪÉBÉE nÆMÉÉå BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå ABÉE BÉEàÉä]ÉÒ MÉÉÊ~iÉ cÖ<Ç lÉÉÒ* =ºÉ ´É−ÉÇ nä¶É àÉå 90 ºÉÉÆ|ÉnÉÉʪÉBÉE nÆMÉä cÖA lÉä +ÉÉè® VÉ¤É +ÉÉÆBÉE½ä +ÉÉA lÉä iÉÉä =xÉàÉå ºÉä 79 nÆMÉä ABÉE ´ÉMÉÇ ÉʴɶÉä−É uÉ®É |ÉɪÉÉäÉÊVÉiÉ ÉÊBÉEA MÉA lÉä* (d1/1115/vb-spr) VÉ¤É +ÉÉÆBÉE½ä +ÉɪÉä lÉä, iÉÉä =ºÉàÉå ºÉä 89 nÆMÉä ABÉE ´ÉMÉÇ ÉʴɶÉä−É BÉEä uÉ®É |ÉɪÉÉäÉÊVÉiÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉä MɪÉä lÉä* àÉé àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ ºÉä BÉEcxÉÉ SÉÉcÚÆMÉÉ ÉÊBÉE ÉÊ{ÉUãÉä ´É−ÉÇ 2014 àÉå =kÉ® |Énä¶É àÉå 133 nÆMÉä cÖA lÉä +ÉÉè® ´É−ÉÇ 2015 àÉå +ÉBÉDiÉڤɮ iÉBÉE 139 nÆMÉä cÖA cé* càÉ ãÉÉäMÉ näJÉiÉä cé ÉÊBÉE BÉEcÉÓ BÉEÉä<Ç PÉ]xÉÉ cÉäiÉÉÒ cè, iÉÉä +É{É®ÉÉÊvɪÉÉå BÉEä ÉÊJÉãÉÉ{ÉE ªÉÉ nÆMÉÉ<ªÉÉå BÉEä ÉÊJÉãÉÉ{ÉE BÉEɮǴÉÉ<Ç BÉE®xÉä BÉEä ¤ÉVÉÉA ºlÉÉxÉÉÒªÉ |ɶÉɺÉxÉ BÉEàªÉÖxÉãÉ ´ÉɪÉãÉåºÉ BÉEä xÉÉàÉ {É® ¤ÉcÖºÉÆJªÉBÉE ºÉàÉÖnÉªÉ BÉEÉä |ÉiÉÉÉʽiÉ BÉE®iÉÉÒ cè +ÉÉè® =xcå +ÉxÉɴɶªÉBÉE +ɺÉiªÉ àÉÖBÉEnàÉÉä àÉå ¤ÉÆn BÉE®iÉÉÒ cè* àÉé àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ ºÉä VÉÉxÉxÉÉ SÉÉcÚÆMÉÉ ÉÊBÉE BÉDªÉÉ £ÉÉ®iÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® ÉÊ{ÉUãÉä {ÉÉÄSÉ ´É−ÉÉç BÉEä +ÉÆn® {ÉÚ®ä nä¶É àÉå cÖA nÆMÉÉå BÉEä ÉÊãÉA ABÉE BÉEàÉä]ÉÒ MÉÉÊ~iÉ BÉE®äMÉÉÒ +ÉÉè® =ºÉ ÉÊ®{ÉÉä]Ç BÉEÉä ºÉÉ´ÉÇVÉÉÊxÉBÉE BÉE®BÉEä nä¶É BÉEä ºÉÉàÉxÉä ãÉÉAMÉÉÒ iÉÉÉÊBÉE {ÉiÉÉ SÉãÉ ºÉBÉEä ÉÊBÉE 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 16 àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É BÉDªÉÉå ÉÊSÉããÉÉ ®cä cé? +ÉÉ{É |ɶxÉ {ÉÚU ºÉBÉEiÉä cé* ÉÊ®BÉEÉìbÇ àÉå BÉÖEU xÉcÉÓ VÉÉ ®cÉ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ )… (Not recorded) gÉÉÒ ÉÊBÉE®äxÉ ÉÊ®VÉÉÒVÉÚ : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ àÉcÆiÉ +ÉÉÉÊniªÉ VÉÉ Ò xÉä VÉÉä ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ =~ɪÉä cé, ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) nä¶É àÉå ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉÉ®ÉÒ PÉ]xÉÉAÄ cÉäiÉÉÒ cé, ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ BÉEÉèxÉ-ºÉÉ BÉEàªÉÖxÉãÉ cè +ÉÉè® BÉEÉèxÉ-ºÉÉ BÉEàªÉÖxÉãÉ xÉcÉÓ cè, 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 17 PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): Thank you for letting me ask a supplementary. From the reply given by the Minister, it seems that Uttar Pradesh has the maximum number of communal incidents, followed by Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh; it is very low in Bengal. We all know that the ruling Party has the maximum number of MPs from Uttar Pradesh. It is our feeling that this atmosphere of intolerance which leads to communal incidents is fanned by statements by political leaders. There have been complaints about the MP from Gorakhpur, about the MP from Ghaziabad…… HON. SPEAKER: No. This is not the way. Ask the question. PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): …. and other saffron wearing MPs. … (Interruptions ) (e1/1120/ksp/rps) There have been complaints. I want to ask the hon. Minister, that in order to create an atmosphere of amity and communal peace in the country, whether the Government of India will take any steps to control the intemperate statements made by MPs and other leaders of the Ruling Party which lead to communal conflagration. … ( Interruptions ) SHRI KIREN RIJIJU: Madam, there is no specific question from the hon. Member. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: This is not proper. Please take your seat. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ªÉc BÉDªÉÉ cÉä ®cÉ cè, àÉÉãÉÚàÉ cè ºÉ£ÉÉÒ BÉEÉä* ªÉc BÉEÉä<Ç iÉ®ÉÒBÉEÉ xÉcÉÓ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: Everybody knows everything. Please take your seat. … ( Interruptions ) SHRI KIREN RIJIJU: The hon. Member is a very respectable Member and I always agree with him most of the time. But here I do not agree with him because he has referred to a situation which I can term as an artificial atmosphere of intolerance being created by some sections of the people in this country. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 18 gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : àÉèbàÉ º{ÉÉÒBÉE®, àÉé ªÉc {ÉÚUxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE BÉDªÉÉ ´ÉVÉc cè ÉÊBÉE ÉÊVɺÉ-ÉÊVÉºÉ VÉMÉc ¤ÉÉÒVÉä{ÉÉÒ BÉEÉÒ |ÉVÉåºÉ VªÉÉnÉ cè, =xcÉÒ º]ä]弃 àÉå AäºÉÉÒ PÉ]xÉÉAÆ VªÉÉnÉ cÉä ®cÉÒ cé? =nÉc®hÉ BÉEä iÉÉè® {É® ÉʤÉcÉ® àÉå ´É−ÉÇ 2014 àÉå AäºÉÉÒ <ÆÉʺÉbå]弃 BÉEÉ Ò ºÉÆJªÉÉ 61 lÉÉÒ +ÉÉè® <ºÉ ºÉÉãÉ 59 cè* =ºÉÉÒ iÉ®c MÉÖVÉ®ÉiÉ àÉå ÉÊ{ÉUãÉä ºÉÉãÉ 74 +ÉÉè® <ºÉ ºÉÉãÉ 47 AäºÉÉÒ PÉ]xÉÉA Æ cÖ<Ç cé* =ºÉÉÒ iÉ®c BÉExÉÉÇ]BÉE àÉå £ÉÉÒ cÖ+ÉÉ cè*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) ÉÊVɺÉ-ÉÊVÉºÉ VÉMÉc ¤ÉÉÒVÉä{ÉÉÒ BÉEÉÒ |ÉVÉåºÉ cè, =ºÉÉÒ º]ä] BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå àÉé BÉEc ®cÉ cÚÆ* ´Éäº] ¤ÉÆMÉÉãÉ àÉå xÉcÉÓ cè, BÉEä®ãÉ àÉå xÉcÉÓ cè, +ÉxªÉ ®ÉVªÉÉå àÉå AäºÉÉ xÉcÉÓ cè* àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É |ɶxÉ {ÉÚÉÊUA* +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉ |ɶxÉ cÉä MɪÉÉ* gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : àÉèbàÉ, nںɮÉÒ SÉÉÒVÉ, BÉEãÉ ãÉäJÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ xÉä BÉEcÉ,...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : xÉcÉÓ, =ºÉ {É® xÉcÉÓ, +É{ÉxÉÉ |ɶxÉ {ÉÚÉÊUA* gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : ªÉä VÉÉä +ÉÉÆBÉE½ä cé, ´É−ÉÇ 2014 ºÉä AäºÉÉÒ <ÆÉʺÉbå]弃 BÉEàÉ cÉä MɪÉÉÒ cé, ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ +ÉMÉ® +ÉÉ{É näJÉåMÉä it was 644 last year and this year it has gone up to 650. So it has increased, not decreased and you are giving the figures that this time the number of incidents has come down. This is the figure which you have given. SHRI KIREN RIJIJU: Madam, I was referring to this figure right from 2013 because our Government came into office half way through 2014; we did not rule for the entire year of 2014. That is why, I was giving this categorical statement. In 2015, as I said, the numbers have a little bit risen, but compared to 2013, it has come down. That is what I am saying. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ªÉc {ÉrÉÊiÉ ~ÉÒBÉE xÉcÉÓ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ ÉÊBÉE®äxÉ ÉÊ®VÉÉÒVÉÚ : +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ãÉÉÒb® xÉä ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ {ÉÚUÉ cè, +ÉÉ{É ãÉÉäMÉ VÉ´ÉÉ¤É ºÉÖÉÊxÉA*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) Madam, the important point which Khargeji has made is that wherever the BJP is strong, the incidents have increased. I think it does not tally with the report which we have. Moreover, how can you distance this from the responsibility of State Governments? Is it the responsibility of MPs or State Governments to control communal incidents? So, it is not fair to say that wherever there is a stronger presence of BJP, there are more communal incidents. I think that is not a fair comment on the part of the hon. Leader from the Opposition Party. (ends) 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 19 (f1/1125/rcp/mm) (Q. 22) SHRI ASHOK SHANKARRAO CHAVAN (NANDED): Speaker, Madam, going by the importance of the question and its relevance in today’s context, the impact of climate change on agriculture and ultimately on the farmers is huge financial losses which the farmers are incurring today. It is ultimately leading to large number of suicides in the country as we are observing today. My question has been very specific but unfortunately the answer from the Minister is not correct. I have asked for the total loss incurred by farmers in the country. The answer has not come; it is only mentioning the amount, the assistance which has been granted or is to be granted. Madam, they have already mentioned that ICAR and the CRIDA have mapped around 572 districts of the country which are vulnerable to the climate change. Even there have been consultation meetings going on. There have been contingency plans which have been drawn up. But the factual position, the ground reality is that there is no implementation as far as what the Minister has told in the answer is concerned. There may be plans on paper. HON. SPEAKER: What is your question? SHRI ASHOK SHANKARRAO CHAVAN (NANDED): But, as I mentioned, a large number of deaths of people who are committing suicides is due to the climate change and the scarcity situation. In some parts of the country, there have been heavy rains. Ultimately the farmer is the loser in the entire thing. Nothing has been implemented as far as the Government of India is concerned. There is a statement given by the Minister in which the NDRF amount which is to be released to the various States has been mentioned. I would like to specifically mention here that several teams have gone particularly to Maharashtra. I am talking about Maharashtra because I belong to the State. Several teams have gone to the State. Almost four to five times the teams have gone. They have assessed the situation. The total amount has also been 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 20 mentioned here, but the State Government has asked around Rs. 4000 crore to be released to the State Government. Now it is almost December and till date the total requirement of expenditure assessed by the Government of India is nil. It is showing that not a single amount has been assessed. My question is this. When more than 3000 people are committing suicides in the State of Maharashtra and Government of India’s teams are going there continuously for the last six months, why the Ministry is sitting over this issue? When the money is going to be released to the State Government to overcome the situation arisen due to scarcity in Maharashtra? gÉÉÒ ®ÉvÉÉ àÉÉäcxÉ É˺Éc : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, càÉxÉä VÉÉä ÉÊ´É´É®hÉ ºÉ£ÉÉ {É]ãÉ {É® ®JÉÉ cè, =ºÉàÉå àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ ºÉnºªÉ BÉEä |ɶxÉ BÉEÉ ÉʴɺiÉÉ® ºÉä =kÉ® ÉÊnªÉÉ MɪÉÉ cè* VÉcÉÆ iÉBÉE +ÉÉBÉEÉκàÉBÉE ªÉÉäVÉxÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ BÉEÉ |ɶxÉ cè, ªÉc càÉ ®ÉVªÉÉå BÉEä ºÉcªÉÉäMÉ ºÉä ¤ÉxÉÉiÉä cé +ÉÉè® =xcÉÓ BÉEä ºÉcªÉÉäMÉ ºÉä ÉʵÉEªÉÉÉÎx´ÉiÉ BÉE®iÉä cé* ®ÉVªÉÉå BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ ÉÊxÉÉζSÉiÉ °ô{É ºÉä ¤Éè~BÉEä cÖ<Ç cé +ÉÉè® ®ÉVªÉÉå àÉå cÖ<Ç cé* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 21 ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ cè, BÉDªÉÉåÉÊBÉE iÉÉÒxÉ cVÉÉ® ºÉä VªÉÉnÉ ãÉÉäMÉ +ÉÉiàÉciªÉÉ BÉE® SÉÖBÉEä cé* àÉä®ÉÒ +ÉÉ{ɺÉä ÉÊ®BÉD´Éèº] cè +ÉÉè® àÉé <ºÉ àÉÉàÉãÉä àÉå +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ |ÉÉä]èBÉD¶ÉxÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE VÉ¤É 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 22 ´É−ÉÇ 2015-16 àÉå <ºÉ ¤ÉÉ® 1483 BÉE®Éä½ âó{ɪÉä BÉEÉ £ÉÉ®ÉÒ +ÉɤÉÆ]xÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ MɪÉÉ cè +ÉÉè® |ÉlÉàÉ ÉÊBÉEºiÉ ÉÊ®ãÉÉÒVÉ BÉE® nÉÒ MÉ<Ç cè* gÉÉÒ xÉÉ®hÉ£ÉÉ<Ç BÉEÉUÉʽªÉÉ (+ÉàÉ®äãÉÉÒ) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä àÉÉvªÉàÉ ºÉä VÉÉxÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE +ÉÉVÉ càÉÉ®ä nä¶É àÉå àÉÉèºÉàÉ ¤ÉnãÉiÉÉ cè, iÉÉ{ÉàÉÉxÉ, VÉãÉ ºÉƺÉÉvÉxÉ àÉå ÉÊMɮɴÉ], +ÉÉäãÉÉ´ÉßÉÎ−], SɵÉE´ÉÉiÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 23 many lives of people. However, the rain devastated many properties, livestock, fields, farms, etc. I would like to know from the hon. Minister, through you, Madam, whether the Government declare the recent devastating rainfall in Tamil Nadu as the national disaster and provide assistance from the National Disaster Response and Restoration Works for the extensive damage suffered in the aftermath of November 2015. gÉÉÒ ®ÉvÉÉ àÉÉäcxÉ É˺Éc : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, =ºÉ ®ÉVªÉ BÉEä +ÉÆn® ¶ÉÖ°ô àÉå ºÉÚJÉä BÉEÉ lÉÉä½É ºÉÉ |ÉBÉEÉä{É lÉÉ +ÉÉè® àÉé |ÉiÉÉÒFÉÉ BÉE® ®cÉ lÉÉ ÉÊBÉE ºÉÚJÉä {É® BÉÖEU àÉèàÉÉä®åbàÉ +ÉÉAMÉÉ +ÉÉè® àÉéxÉä ABÉE {ÉjÉ £ÉÉÒ ÉÊnªÉÉ lÉÉ* ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ ¤ÉÉn àÉå +ÉÉÊiÉ´ÉßÉÎ−] BÉEä BÉEÉ®hÉ ´ÉcÉÆ ¤ÉÉfà BÉEÉÒ iɤÉÉcÉÒ ºÉä BÉEÉ{ÉEÉÒ xÉÖBÉEºÉÉxÉ cÖ+ÉÉ cè +ÉÉè® àÉÖZÉä VÉcÉÆ iÉBÉE VÉÉxÉBÉEÉ®ÉÒ cè ÉÊBÉE ¤ÉÉfà BÉEä ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ àÉå ®ÉVªÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® BÉEÉÒ +ÉÉä® ºÉä MÉßc àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ BÉEä {ÉÉºÉ BÉÖEU |ÉÉʵÉEªÉÉ SÉãÉ ®cÉÒ cè, ¶ÉɪÉn BÉEÉä< Ç àÉèàÉÉä®åbàÉ £ÉÉÒ +ÉɪÉÉ cè* <ºÉ ºÉƤÉÆvÉ àÉå {ÉÚ®ÉÒ VÉÉxÉBÉEÉ®ÉÒ MÉßc àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ ºÉä |ÉÉ{iÉ cÉä ºÉBÉEäMÉÉÒ, SÉÚÆÉÊBÉE àÉÉàÉãÉÉ +É¤É ºÉÚJÉä ºÉä ¤ÉÉfà BÉEÉÒ +ÉÉä® SÉãÉÉ MɪÉÉ cè* SHRI THOTA NARASIMHAM (KAKINADA): Thank you, Madam, for giving me to ask a supplementary. Now-a-days climate change is acquiring great importance throughout the world. We have recently witnessed heavy rains, which severely affected most of our coastal districts of Andhra Pradesh and also Tamil Nadu. Yesterday also there were heavy rains. One way we are suffering from heavy rains and in the other way we are suffering due to drought. Floods in Uttarakhand, Nepal earthquake and all these are examples of climate change. These have to be dealt with comprehensively and with coordination among the Ministries and Departments. My specific questions to the hon. Minister are as follows. What are the steps taken by the Government for adoption of Climate Smart Crops as envisaged by Dr. Swaminathan? 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 24 Madagascar model of System of Rice Intensification (SRI) in Tamil Nadu notifies the best results using low water. Will the Government include it in the National Agriculture Policy for better results throughout the country? The former Prime Minister, Shri Vajpayee ji … … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: You have to ask only one supplementary. SHRI THOTA NARASIMHAM (KAKINADA): Please allow me to put one more. HON. SPEAKER: The Minister will give reply to only one supplementary. SHRI THOTA NARASIMHAM (KAKINADA): Madam, due to more subsidies on Urea, innocent poor farmers increased the use of Urea in their fields, which leaves toxics on the soil, in turn affects the productivity. The Government needs to redraft NPK subsidy. Will the Government frame a comprehensive fertilizer subsidy policy and rationalize the usage of chemical fertilizers for sustainable productivity? gÉÉÒ ®ÉvÉÉ àÉÉäcxÉ É˺Éc : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, =´ÉÇ®BÉE ºÉcɪÉiÉÉ ÉÊxÉÉÊiÉ BÉEä ÉÊãÉA càÉÉ®ä =´ÉÇ®BÉE àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ cé +ÉÉè® =xÉBÉEä ºÉÉlÉ ¤Éè~ BÉE® càÉ SÉSÉÉÇ BÉE®åMÉä* VÉcÉÆ iÉBÉE VÉãÉ´ÉɪÉÖ {ÉÉÊ®´ÉiÉÇxÉ BÉEä BÉEÉ®hÉ VÉÉä JÉäiÉÉÒ {É® SÉÉèiÉ®{ÉEÉ ºÉÆBÉE] ={ÉÉκlÉiÉ cÖ+ÉÉ cè, ÉÊ{ÉUãÉä bäfÃ-nÉä ´É−ÉÉç BÉEä +ÉÆn® VÉÉä BÉEÆ]ÉÒVÉåºÉÉÒ {ãÉÉxÉ ¤ÉxÉÉA cé +ÉÉè® =ºÉBÉEä iÉciÉ VÉÉä ºÉÆ£ÉÉ´ÉxÉÉAÆ ºÉÉàÉxÉä +ÉÉ<Ç cè, iÉÉä <ºÉ nÉä ´É−ÉÇ BÉEä +ÉÆn® vÉÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ BÉE<Ç ´Éè®É<]ÉÒWÉ £ÉÉÒ ÉÊxÉBÉEãÉÉÒ cé +ÉÉè® =ºÉàÉå ABÉE ´Éè®ÉªÉ]ÉÒ iÉÉä AäºÉÉÒ cè ÉÊBÉE ªÉÉÊn ¤ÉÉfà cè +ÉÉè® 20 ÉÊnxÉÉå iÉBÉE £ÉÉÒ vÉÉxÉ ªÉÉÊn {ÉÉxÉÉÒ àÉå bÚ¤ÉÉ cè iÉÉä =ºÉBÉEä ¤ÉÉn £ÉÉÒ ´Éc JÉ®É¤É xÉcÉÓ cÉäMÉÉ +ÉÉè® nÚºÉ®É VÉÉä ¶ÉÉì]Ç báÉÖ®ä¶ÉxÉ ºÉÉÒb弃 cé, <ºÉBÉEä £ÉÉÒ BÉE<Ç |ÉBÉEÉ® BÉEä ÉʴɺiÉßiÉ ÉÊ´É´É®hÉ càÉ +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä £ÉäVÉåMÉä* xÉ<Ç-xÉ<Ç ´Éè®ÉªÉÉÊ]ªÉÉÆ <ºÉ ¤ÉÉÒSÉ àÉå +ÉÉ<Ç cé, VÉÉä VÉãÉ´ÉɪÉÖ {ÉÉÊ®´ÉiÉÇxÉ BÉEä ºÉÆBÉE] BÉEÉ ºÉÉàÉxÉÉ BÉE® ºÉBÉEiÉÉÒ cé* {ÉÚ®ÉÒ ºÉÚSÉÉÒ càÉ +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä £ÉäVÉ ºÉBÉEiÉä cé* gÉÉÒ VÉMÉnÉÎà¤ÉBÉEÉ {ÉÉãÉ (bÖàÉÉÊ®ªÉÉMÉÆVÉ) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉ +ÉÉ£ÉÉ®ÉÒ cÚÄ ÉÊBÉE +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä àÉÖZÉä ABÉE +ÉiªÉÆiÉ àÉci´É{ÉÚhÉÇ ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ {É® |ɶxÉ {ÉÚUxÉä BÉEÉ àÉÉèBÉEÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ cè* àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ xÉä º´ÉÉÒBÉEÉ® ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE £ÉÉ®iÉ BÉEä BÉßEÉÊ−É FÉäjÉÉå àÉå £ÉÉÒ MãÉÉä¤ÉãÉ ´ÉÉÉÍàÉMÉ +ÉÉè® BÉEãÉÉ<àÉä] SÉåÉÊVÉºÉ BÉEÉ BÉEÉ{ÉEÉÒ |ÉÉÊiÉBÉÚEãÉ +ɺɮ {ɽ ®cÉ cè* =xcÉåxÉä =ºÉ ºÉƤÉÆvÉ àÉå BÉEcÉ £ÉÉÒ cè ÉÊBÉE càÉ BÉEÆÉÊ]VÉåºÉÉÒ {ãÉÉxÉ ÉÊbÉκ]ÅBÉD] ´ÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 25 (j1/1140/cs-kkd) ÉÊVɺÉBÉEä BÉEÉ®hÉ ÉÊBÉEºÉÉxÉÉå BÉEÉÒ {ÉEºÉãÉ BÉEÉÒ FÉÉÊiÉ cÉä MÉ<Ç cè* +É¤É ´Éä ®¤ÉÉÒ BÉEÉÒ {ÉEºÉãÉ BÉEÉÒ iÉèªÉÉ®ÉÒ ¶ÉÖ°ô BÉE® ®cä cé* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 26 issues or is it due to the reason that the western countries are not ready to reduce their carbon emission that they have made it clear in the International Summit? 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BÉßEÉÊ−É àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ BÉEÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 29 (|ɶxÉ 23) gÉÉÒ {É®ä¶É ®É´ÉãÉ (+ÉcàÉnɤÉÉn-{ÉÚ´ÉÇ) : vÉxªÉ´ÉÉn àÉèbàÉ, +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä àÉÖZÉä ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ {ÉÚUxÉä BÉEÉ àÉÉèBÉEÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ* àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä àÉÉvªÉàÉ ºÉä ÉÊàÉÉÊxɺ]® +ÉÉì{ÉE BÉEèàÉÉÒBÉEãÉ Ahb {ÉE]ÉÔãÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 30 ºÉÉãÉ BÉEä ÉÊãÉA ãÉäBÉE® +ÉɪÉä cé, =ºÉ xªÉÚ ªÉÚÉÊ®ªÉÉ {ÉÉìÉÊãɺÉÉÒ BÉEä iÉciÉ càÉxÉä <ƺÉåÉÊ]BºÉ ÉÊnªÉä cé, 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 31 àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ ºÉnºªÉ xÉä <{ÉDBÉEÉä BÉEä xÉA {ãÉÉÆ] BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå |ɶxÉ {ÉÚUÉ cè, iÉÉä ´ÉcÉÆ MÉèºÉ-ÉÊOÉb +ÉÉè® ¤ÉÉBÉEÉÒ VÉÉä <Æ|ÉEɺ]ÅBÉDSÉ® cè, =ºÉBÉEÉÒ ÉκlÉÉÊiÉ BÉEÉä näJÉBÉE® +ÉÉè® MÉÖVÉ®ÉiÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ ºÉãÉÉc-àɶÉÉÊ´É®É BÉE®BÉEä càÉ =ºÉBÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå ÉÊxÉhÉÇªÉ ãÉåMÉä* SHRI KONDA VISHWESHWAR REDDY (CHEVELLA): Thank you, Madam, for giving me an opportunity to raise the supplementary question to the Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers. Fertilizers need not be chemicals. Bio-fertilizers are not only healthy for plants and animals but they are healthy for national economy also because urea is imported or is made from imported petroleum products. I would like to ask the Minister whether he is recognizing bio-fertilizer as a fertilizer because if you label it as fertilizer people can go to jail because it is misrepresentation. Secondly, what step is the Government taking to phase out chemical fertilizers and bring in bio-fertilizers? Does the Government plan to have a separate policy for bio-fertilizers on the lines of urea pricing to ensure the usage and promotion of bio-fertilizers? SHRI ANANTHKUMAR: We have already taken initiative in this regard. ‘Waste to compost’ is hon. Prime Minister, Modi’s vision. With this project we have decided in consultation with the Ministry of Urban Development that in whichever city the waste is generated, it will be converted into compost. That compost will be provided to the farmers for cultivation. As on today the Maximum Retail Price (MRP) on per ton urea is Rs.5360. If the compost per ton is Rs.5500 or Rs.6000, the farmers will not use it. Therefore, to make the compost viable there is a proposal from my Ministry and a Cabinet Note is in circulation that we should give a subsidy on compost also. The Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers definitely recognizes organic fertilizers and bio-fertilizers. We are for the balanced fertilization. Therefore, in lieu of that if there is a need to provide subsidy on organic fertilizers, the Government of India is ready for it. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 32 (n1/1200/cp/san) gÉÉÒ nÖ−ªÉÆiÉ SÉÉè]ÉãÉÉ (ÉÊcºÉÉ®) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, ªÉcÉÆ àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ xÉä VÉ´ÉÉ¤É ÉÊnªÉÉ ÉÊBÉE ÉÊ{ÉUãÉä ºÉÉãÉÉå àÉå cÉÊ®ªÉÉhÉÉ àÉå 1,010 ÉÊàÉÉÊãɪÉxÉ àÉÉÒÉÊ]ÅBÉE ]xÉ ªÉÚÉÊ®ªÉÉ BÉEÉÒ ÉÊbàÉÉÆb lÉÉÒ +ÉÉè® 1,187 ÉÊàÉÉÊãɪÉxÉ àÉÉÒÉÊ]ÅBÉE ]xÉ ´ÉcÉÆ {ÉcÖÆSÉÉÒ* +ÉÉ{É ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä £ÉÉÒ näJÉÉ lÉÉ ÉÊBÉE lÉÉxÉä àÉå ãÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 33 PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 1202 hours HON. SPEAKER: Now, papers to be laid on the Table – Shri Ramvilas Paswan. ={É£ÉÉäBÉDiÉÉ àÉÉàÉãÉä, JÉÉtÉ +ÉÉè® ºÉÉ´ÉÇVÉÉÊxÉBÉE ÉÊ´ÉiÉ®hÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ (gÉÉÒ ®ÉàÉ ÉÊ´ÉãÉÉºÉ {ÉɺɴÉÉxÉ) : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé +ÉɴɶªÉBÉE ´ÉºiÉÖ +ÉÉÊvÉÉÊxɪÉàÉ, 1955 BÉEÉÒ vÉÉ®É 3 BÉEÉÒ ={É-vÉÉ®É (6) BÉEä +ÉÆiÉMÉÇiÉ ÉÊxÉàxÉÉÊãÉÉÊJÉiÉ +ÉÉÊvɺÉÚSÉxÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ BÉEÉÒ ABÉE-ABÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ (ÉÊcxnÉÒ iÉlÉÉ +ÉÆOÉäVÉÉÒ ºÉƺBÉE®hÉ) ºÉ£ÉÉ {É]ãÉ {É® ®JÉiÉÉ cÚÄ :- (1) ÉÊ´ÉÉÊxÉÉÌn−] JÉÉtÉ ºÉÉàÉÉÊOɪÉÉå {É® (+ÉxÉÖYÉÉÎ{iÉBÉE®hÉ +É{ÉäFÉÉAÆ, º]ÉìBÉE ºÉÉÒàÉÉAÆ +ÉÉè® ºÉÆSÉãÉxÉ |ÉÉÊiɤÉÆvÉ) ÉÊxÉ®ÉBÉE®hÉ (nÚºÉ®É ºÉƶÉÉävÉxÉ) +ÉÉnä¶É, 2015, VÉÉä 28 ÉʺÉiÉà¤É®, 2015 BÉEä £ÉÉ®iÉ BÉEä ®ÉVÉ{ÉjÉ àÉå +ÉÉÊvɺÉÚSÉxÉÉ ºÉÆJªÉÉ BÉEÉ0+ÉÉ02642(+É) àÉå |ÉBÉEÉÉʶÉiÉ cÖ+ÉÉ lÉÉ* (2) ÉÊ´ÉÉÊxÉÉÌn−] JÉÉtÉ ºÉÉàÉÉÊOɪÉÉå {É® (+ÉxÉÖYÉÉÎ{iÉBÉE®hÉ +É{ÉäFÉÉAÆ, º]ÉìBÉE ºÉÉÒàÉÉAÆ +ÉÉè® ºÉÆSÉãÉxÉ |ÉÉÊiɤÉÆvÉ) ÉÊxÉ®ÉBÉE®hÉ (ºÉƶÉÉävÉxÉ) +ÉÉnä¶É, 2015, VÉÉä 18 +ÉBÉD]ڤɮ, 2015 BÉEä £ÉÉ®iÉ BÉEä ®ÉVÉ{ÉjÉ àÉå +ÉÉÊvɺÉÚSÉxÉÉ ºÉÆJªÉÉ BÉEÉ0+ÉÉ02857(+É) àÉå |ÉBÉEÉÉʶÉiÉ cÖ+ÉÉ lÉÉ* ...... THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI KIREN RIJIJU): Madam, I beg to lay on the Table:- (1) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) of the National Disaster Management Authority, New Delhi, for the year 2013-2014. (2) Statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for delay in laying the papers mentioned at (1) above...... 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 34 ºÉÉàÉÉÉÊVÉBÉE xªÉÉªÉ +ÉÉè® +ÉÉÊvÉBÉEÉÉÊ®iÉÉ àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ àÉå ®ÉVªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ (gÉÉÒ BÉßE−hÉ{ÉÉãÉ MÉÖVÉÇ®) : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé ÉÊxÉàxÉÉÊãÉÉÊJÉiÉ {ÉjÉ ºÉ£ÉÉ {É]ãÉ {É® ®JÉiÉÉ cÚÄ :- (1) (ABÉE) +ÉÉìÉÊ{ÉEºÉ +ÉÉì{ÉE ÉÊn SÉÉÒ{ÉE BÉEÉÊàɶxÉ® {ÉEÉì® {ɺÉÇxºÉ ÉÊ´Én ÉÊbºÉÂAÉʤÉÉÊãÉ]ÉÒWÉ, xÉ<Ç ÉÊnããÉÉÒ BÉEä ´É−ÉÇ 2008- 2009 ºÉä 2012-2013 iÉBÉE BÉEä ´ÉÉÉÌ−ÉBÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ´ÉänxÉÉå BÉEÉÒ ABÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ (ÉÊcxnÉÒ iÉlÉÉ +ÉÆOÉäVÉÉÒ ºÉƺBÉE®hÉ)* (nÉä) +ÉÉìÉÊ{ÉEºÉ +ÉÉì{ÉE ÉÊn SÉÉÒ{ÉE BÉEÉÊàɶxÉ® {ÉEÉì® {ɺÉÇxºÉ ÉÊ´Én ÉÊbºÉÂAÉʤÉÉÊãÉ]ÉÒWÉ, xÉ<Ç ÉÊnããÉÉÒ BÉEä ´É−ÉÇ 2008- 2009 ºÉä 2012-2013 iÉBÉE BÉEä ´ÉÉÉÌ−ÉBÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ´ÉänxÉÉå {É® YÉÉ{ÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ ABÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ (ÉÊcxnÉÒ iÉlÉÉ +ÉÆOÉäVÉÉÒ ºÉƺBÉE®hÉ)* (2) ={ɪÉÇÖBÉDiÉ (1) àÉå =ÉÎããÉÉÊJÉiÉ {ÉjÉÉå BÉEÉä ºÉ£ÉÉ {É]ãÉ {É® ®JÉxÉä àÉå cÖA ÉÊ´ÉãÉà¤É BÉEä BÉEÉ®hÉ n¶ÉÉÇxÉä ´ÉÉãÉä {ÉÉÆSÉ ÉÊ´É´É®hÉ (ÉÊcxnÉÒ iÉlÉÉ +ÉÆOÉäVÉÉÒ ºÉƺBÉE®hÉ)* ...... ºÉÉàÉÉÉÊVÉBÉE xªÉÉªÉ +ÉÉè® +ÉÉÊvÉBÉEÉÉÊ®iÉÉ àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ àÉå ®ÉVªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ (gÉÉÒ ÉÊ´ÉVÉªÉ ºÉÉÆ{ÉãÉÉ) : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé BÉEÆ{ÉxÉÉÒ +ÉÉÊvÉÉÊxɪÉàÉ, 1956 BÉEÉÒ vÉÉ®É 619BÉE BÉEÉÒ ={É-vÉÉ®É (1) BÉEä +ÉÆiÉMÉÇiÉ ÉÊxÉàxÉÉÊãÉÉÊJÉiÉ {ÉjÉÉå BÉEÉÒ ABÉE-ABÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ (ÉÊcxnÉÒ iÉlÉÉ +ÉÆOÉäVÉÉÒ ºÉƺBÉE®hÉ) ºÉ£ÉÉ {É]ãÉ {É® ®JÉiÉÉ cÚÆ :- (1) (ABÉE) ®É−]ÅÉÒªÉ ºÉ{ÉEÉ<Ç BÉEàÉÇSÉÉ®ÉÒ ÉÊ´ÉkÉ +ÉÉè® ÉÊ´ÉBÉEÉºÉ ÉÊxÉMÉàÉ ÉÊãÉÉÊàÉ]äb, xÉ<Ç ÉÊnããÉÉÒ BÉEä ´É−ÉÇ 2014-2015 BÉEä BÉEɪÉÇBÉE®hÉ BÉEÉÒ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® uÉ®É ºÉàÉÉÒFÉÉ* (nÉä) ®É−]ÅÉÒªÉ ºÉ{ÉEÉ<Ç BÉEàÉÇSÉÉ®ÉÒ ÉÊ´ÉkÉ +ÉÉè® ÉÊ´ÉBÉEÉºÉ ÉÊxÉMÉàÉ ÉÊãÉÉÊàÉ]äb, xÉ<Ç ÉÊnããÉÉÒ BÉEÉ ´É−ÉÇ 2014-2015 BÉEÉ ´ÉÉÉÌ−ÉBÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ´ÉänxÉ, ãÉäJÉÉ{É®ÉÒÉÊFÉiÉ ãÉäJÉä iÉlÉÉ =xÉ {É® ÉÊxɪÉÆjÉBÉE-àÉcÉãÉäJÉÉ{É®ÉÒFÉBÉE BÉEÉÒ ÉÊ]{{ÉÉÊhɪÉÉÆ* (2) (ABÉE) ®É−]ÅÉÒªÉ +ÉxÉÖºÉÚÉÊSÉiÉ VÉÉÉÊiɪÉÉÆ ÉÊ´ÉkÉ +ÉÉè® ÉÊ´ÉBÉEÉºÉ ÉÊxÉMÉàÉ ÉÊãÉÉÊàÉ]äb, ÉÊnããÉÉÒ BÉEä ´É−ÉÇ 2014-2015 BÉEä BÉEɪÉÇBÉE®hÉ BÉEÉÒ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® uÉ®É ºÉàÉÉÒFÉÉ* (nÉä) ®É−]ÅÉÒªÉ +ÉxÉÖºÉÚÉÊSÉiÉ VÉÉÉÊiɪÉÉÆ ÉÊ´ÉkÉ +ÉÉè® ÉÊ´ÉBÉEÉºÉ ÉÊxÉMÉàÉ ÉÊãÉÉÊàÉ]äb, ÉÊnããÉÉÒ BÉEÉ ´É−ÉÇ 2014-2015 BÉEÉ ´ÉÉÉÌ−ÉBÉE |ÉÉÊiÉ´ÉänxÉ, ãÉäJÉÉ{É®ÉÒÉÊFÉiÉ ãÉäJÉä iÉlÉÉ =xÉ {É® ÉÊxɪÉÆjÉBÉE-àÉcÉãÉäJÉÉ{É®ÉÒFÉBÉE BÉEÉÒ ÉÊ]{{ÉÉÊhɪÉÉÆ* ….. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 35 STANDING COMMITTEE ON CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS 13 th to 16 th Reports SHRI ANANDRAO ADSUL (AMRAVATI): Madam, I beg to present the following Action Taken Reports (Hindi and English versions) of the Standing Committee on Chemicals and Fertilizers:- (1) Thirteenth Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Sixth Report (16 th Lok Sabha) on Demands for Grants (2015-16) of the Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers (Department of Pharmaceuticals). (2) Fourteenth Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Seventh Report (16th Lok Sabha) on Demands for Grants (2015-16) of the Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers (Department of Chemicals and Petrochemicals). (3) Fifteenth Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Fourth Report (16 th Lok Sabha) on the subject 'Jan Aushadhi Scheme' of the Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers (Department of Pharmaceuticals). (4) Sixteenth Report on Action Taken by the Government on the recommendations contained in the Fifth Report (16 th Lok Sabha) on Demands for Grants (2015-16) of the Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers (Department of Fertilizers). - - - - - STANDING COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORT, TOURISM AND CULTURE (i) 224 th Report gÉÉÒàÉiÉÉÒ +ÉÉÌ{ÉiÉÉ PÉÉä−É (¤ÉÉãÉÚ®PÉÉ]) : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé ´ÉÉÉÊhÉÉÎVªÉBÉE {ÉÉäiÉ-{ÉÉÊ®´ÉcxÉ (ºÉƶÉÉävÉxÉ) ÉÊ´ÉvÉäªÉBÉE, 2015 BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå {ÉÉÊ®´ÉcxÉ, {ɪÉÇ]xÉ +ÉÉè® ºÉƺBÉßEÉÊiÉ ºÉƤÉÆvÉÉÒ ºlÉɪÉÉÒ ºÉÉÊàÉÉÊiÉ BÉEÉ 224´ÉÉÆ |ÉÉÊiÉ´ÉänxÉ (ÉÊcxnÉÒ iÉlÉÉ +ÉÆOÉäVÉÉÒ ºÉƺBÉE®hÉ) ºÉ£ÉÉ {É]ãÉ {É® ®JÉiÉÉÒ cÚÆ* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 36 (ii) 225 th and 226 th Reports SHRIMATI ARPITA GHOSH (BALURGHAT): Madam, I beg to lay on the Table the following Reports (Hindi and English versions) of the Standing Committee on Transport, Tourism and Culture:- (1) The Two Hundred Twenty-fifth Report on Action Taken by the Government on the Observations/Recommendations of the Committee contained in its Two Hundred and Eighteenth Report on the Demands for Grants (2015-16) of Ministry of Civil Aviation. (2) The Two Hundred Twenty-sixth Report on Action Taken by the Government on the Observations/Recommendations of the Committee contained in its Two Hundred and Nineteenth Report on the Demands for Grants (2015-16) of Ministry of Culture. ----- MOTION RE: 22 nd REPORT OF BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE BÉEÉè¶ÉãÉ ÉÊ´ÉBÉEÉºÉ +ÉÉè® =tÉÉÊàÉiÉÉ àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ BÉEä ®ÉVªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ iÉlÉÉ ºÉƺÉnÉÒªÉ BÉEɪÉÇ àÉÆjÉÉãÉªÉ àÉå ®ÉVªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ (gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉÉÒ´É |ÉiÉÉ{É °ôbÉÒ) : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé |ɺiÉÉ´É BÉE®iÉÉ cÚÆ : “ÉÊBÉE ªÉc ºÉ£ÉÉ 30 xÉ´Éà¤É®, 2015 BÉEÉä ºÉ£ÉÉ àÉå |ɺiÉÖiÉ BÉEɪÉÇ àÉÆjÉhÉÉ ºÉÉÊàÉÉÊiÉ BÉEä 22´Éå |ÉÉÊiÉ´ÉänxÉ ºÉä ºÉcàÉiÉ cè* ” HON. SPEAKER: The question is: “That this House do agree with the Twenty-second Report of the Business Advisory Committee presented to the House on 30 th November, 2015. ” The motion was adopted. ----- 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 37 SPECIAL MENTIONS 1204 hours HON. SPEAKER: Now, ‘Zero Hour’ – Shri Mukesh Rajput. … ( Interruptions ) gÉÉÒ àÉÖBÉEä¶É ®ÉVÉ{ÉÚiÉ ({ÉE°ôJÉɤÉÉn) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, +ÉÉVÉ +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä àÉÖZÉä VÉÉÒ®Éä +ÉÉì´É® àÉå ¤ÉÉäãÉxÉä BÉEÉ +ɴɺɮ ÉÊnªÉÉ, <ºÉBÉEä ÉÊãÉA àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä vÉxªÉ´ÉÉn näiÉÉ cÚÆ* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) £ÉÉ®iÉ BÉßEÉÊ−É |ÉvÉÉxÉ nä¶É cè* <ºÉ BÉßEÉÊ−É |ÉvÉÉxÉ nä¶É àÉå nÉãÉÉå BÉEÉÒ ¤ÉcÖiÉ ¤É½ÉÒ ºÉàɺªÉÉ cè* ®ÉäVÉ ºÉàÉÉSÉÉ® {ÉjÉÉå BÉEä àÉÉvªÉàÉ ºÉä YÉÉiÉ cÉäiÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE nÉãÉ 200 °ô{ÉA |ÉÉÊiÉ ÉÊBÉEãÉÉä {ÉcÖÆSÉ MÉ<Ç cè* +ÉÉVÉ nÉãÉÉå BÉEä nÉàÉ +ÉɺÉàÉÉxÉ UÚ ®cä cé* càÉÉ®ä nä¶É BÉEÉ +ÉxxÉnÉiÉÉ nãÉcxÉ =i{ÉÉnxÉ xÉcÉÓ BÉE® ®cÉ cè, BÉDªÉÉåÉÊBÉE =xÉBÉEÉä =xÉBÉEÉÒ ={ÉVÉ BÉEÉ ´ÉÉÉÊVÉ¤É nÉàÉ xÉcÉÓ ÉÊàÉãÉ ®cÉ cè* (o1/1205/raj-ak) ÉÊBÉEºÉÉxÉÉå BÉEÉÒ nãÉcxÉ BÉEÉÒ {ÉEºÉãÉ BÉEÉÒ +ÉÉÊvÉBÉE ºÉä +ÉÉÊvÉBÉE nÉàÉ 20 °ô{ɪÉä ºÉä 25 °ô{ɪÉä BÉEä ÉÊcºÉÉ¤É ºÉä àÉÆbÉÒ àÉå ÉÊàÉãÉiÉä cé, càÉÉ®É +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä àÉÉvªÉàÉ ºÉä ºÉ®BÉEÉ® ºÉä BÉEcxÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE ªÉÉÊn £ÉÉ®iÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® nÉãÉ BÉEä nÉàÉ 60 °ô{ɪÉä ºÉä 70 °ô{ɪÉä BÉE® nä iÉÉä càÉÉ®ä nä¶É BÉE ä ÉÊBÉEºÉÉxÉ nÉãÉ BÉEÉ =i{ÉÉnxÉ VªÉÉnÉ BÉE®åMÉä +ÉÉè® càÉÉ®ä nä¶É àÉå nÉãÉ BÉEÉ =i{ÉÉnxÉ VªÉÉnÉ cÉäMÉÉ iÉÉä VÉÉä {ÉèºÉÉ càÉÉ®ä nä¶É ºÉä ¤ÉÉc® VÉÉiÉÉ cè, càÉå nÉãÉ +ÉɪÉÉiÉ BÉE®xÉÉÒ {ɽiÉÉÒ cè, <ºÉºÉä càÉÉ®ä nä¶É BÉEä ÉÊBÉEºÉÉxÉ àÉVɤÉÚiÉ cÉåMÉä +ÉÉè® nä¶É BÉEÉ {ÉèºÉÉ ¤ÉÉc® xÉcÉÓ VÉɪÉäMÉÉ, ªÉc VªÉÉnÉ ºÉcÉÒ cÉäMÉÉ* càÉÉ®É +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä àÉÉvªÉàÉ ºÉä ºÉ®BÉEÉ® ºÉä ªÉc ÉÊxÉ´ÉänxÉ cè* àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : gÉÉÒ BÉEä¶É´É |ɺÉÉn àÉÉèªÉÇ, gÉÉÒ £Éè®Éå |ɺÉÉn ÉÊàÉgÉ, gÉÉÒ ÉʶɴÉBÉÖEàÉÉ® =nÉÉʺÉ, BÉÖEÄ´É® {ÉÖ−{Éäxp É˺Éc SÉxnäãÉ +ÉÉè® gÉÉÒ {ÉÉÒ.{ÉÉÒ.SÉÉèvÉ®ÉÒ BÉEÉä gÉÉÒ àÉÖBÉEä¶É ®ÉVÉ{ÉÚiÉ uÉ®É =~ÉA MÉA ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ ºÉƤÉr BÉE®xÉä BÉEÉÒ +ÉxÉÖàÉÉÊiÉ |ÉnÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ VÉÉiÉÉÒ cè* gÉÉÒ ºÉÖàÉävÉÉxÉxn ºÉ®º´ÉiÉÉÒ (ºÉÉÒBÉE®) : àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ VÉÉÒ, àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ºÉÉàÉxÉä +É{ÉxÉä ºÉƺÉnÉÒªÉ FÉäjÉ BÉEÉÒ ABÉE ºÉàɺªÉÉ ®JÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ* ®ÉVɺlÉÉxÉ |Énä¶É BÉEÉ JÉäãÉ BÉEä FÉäjÉ àÉå ÉʴɶÉä−É ªÉÉäMÉnÉxÉ ®cÉ cè, SÉÉcä ´Éc iÉÉÒ®ÆnÉVÉÉÒ cÉä, ¤ÉɺBÉEä] ¤ÉÉìãÉ ªÉÉ +ÉxªÉ JÉäãÉ cÉå, àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä àÉÉvªÉàÉ ºÉä àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ JÉäãÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ ºÉä ÉÊxÉ´ÉänxÉ BÉE®xÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE ®ÉVɺlÉÉxÉ |Énä¶É àÉå ABÉE JÉäãÉ Éʴɶ´ÉÉÊ´ÉtÉÉãÉªÉ BÉEÉÒ ¤ÉcÖiÉ àÉciÉÉÒ +ÉɴɶªÉBÉEiÉÉ cè* àÉä®É ÉÊxÉ´ÉänxÉ cè ÉÊBÉE JÉäãÉ BÉEÉä |ÉÉäiºÉÉcxÉ näxÉä BÉEä ÉÊãÉA càÉÉ®ä |Énä¶É àÉå ABÉE JÉäãÉ Éʴɶ´ÉÉÊ´ÉtÉÉãÉªÉ BÉEÉÒ ºlÉÉ{ÉxÉÉ cÉäxÉÉÒ SÉÉÉÊcA* àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : gÉÉÒ nä´ÉVÉÉÒ AàÉ. {É]äãÉ, BÉÖEÄ´É® {ÉÖ−{Éäxp É˺Éc SÉxnäãÉ +ÉÉè® gÉÉÒ ºÉÉÒ.+ÉÉ®.SÉÉèvÉ®ÉÒ BÉEÉä gÉÉÒ ºÉÖàÉävÉÉxÉxn ºÉ®º´ÉiÉÉÒ uÉ®É =~ÉA MÉA ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ ºÉƤÉr BÉE®xÉä BÉEÉÒ +ÉxÉÖàÉÉÊiÉ |ÉnÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ VÉÉiÉÉÒ cè* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 38 SHRI M.B. RAJESH (PALAKKAD): Madam, I would like to draw the attention of the Government, through you, regarding the amended ticket refund rules of the Indian Railways. I do acknowledge that there are some positive aspects to these changed rules, but still there are many negative aspects and all the MPs have received so many complaints from passengers regarding the exorbitant rise in cancellation charges. In the case of reserved tickets, earlier, we could have cancelled the ticket even after the train left the station, but according to the amended rules there are three slabs and the last slab is cancellation in less than four hours time. According to the last slab, the cancellation charges have almost been doubled and almost the entire ticket fare will be taken as cancellation charges. So, this has caused great difficulty and problem for passengers, and we are receiving hundreds of complaints each and every day from passengers. This doubling of cancellation charges is nothing but exploitation of passengers, and this will not bring ‘ Ache Din’ to rail passengers. So, I request the Government and the hon. Minister to give a re-look into the issue; reduce the cancellation charges; and to reinstate the old cancellation charges. Thank you very much, Madam. SHRI K.C. VENUGOPAL (ALAPPUZHA): Madam, please allow me to speak on this issue. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: No. Do you want to associate? … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Yes, Shri K. C. Venugopal wants to associate with this issue raised by Shri M. B. Rajesh. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER : Shri Rajeev Satav, Shrimati P.K. Shreemathi Teacher, Shri Mullappally Ramchandran, Shri P.K. Biju, Adv. Joice George, and Shri P.P. Chaudhary are also permitted to associate with the issue raised by Shri M. B. Rajesh. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 39 gÉÉÒ +ÉVÉÇÖxÉ ãÉÉãÉ àÉÉÒhÉÉ (=nªÉ{ÉÖ®) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, ®ÉVɺlÉÉxÉ àÉå =nªÉ{ÉÖ® ¶Éc® cè* àÉé =nªÉ{ÉÖ® ãÉÉäBÉE ºÉ£ÉÉ ºÉƺÉnÉÒªÉ FÉäjÉ ºÉä ÉÊxÉ´ÉÉÇÉÊSÉiÉ cÉä BÉE® +ÉɪÉÉ cÚÆ* =nªÉ{ÉÖ® AäÉÊiÉcÉÉʺÉBÉE oÉÎ−] ºÉä àÉcÉ®ÉhÉÉ |ÉiÉÉ{É +ÉÉè® ®ÉhÉÉ {ÉÖÆVÉÉ BÉEÉÒ VÉxàÉ +ÉÉè® BÉEàÉǺlÉãÉÉÒ ®cÉÒ cè* =nªÉ{ÉÖ® BÉEä iÉÉÒxÉÉå +ÉÉä® ZÉÉÒãÉå cé* =ºÉä ZÉÉÒãÉÉå BÉEÉ ¶Éc® +ÉÉè® ZÉÉÒãÉÉå BÉEÉÒ xÉMÉ®ÉÒ BÉEä xÉÉàÉ ºÉä VÉÉxÉÉ VÉÉiÉÉ cè* =nªÉ{ÉÖ® BÉEÉä ®ÉVɺlÉÉxÉ BÉEÉ BÉE¶àÉÉÒ® BÉEä xÉÉàÉ ºÉä £ÉÉÒ VÉÉxÉÉ VÉÉiÉÉ cè* =nªÉ{ÉÖ® ãÉMÉ£ÉMÉ {ÉÉÆSÉ ãÉÉJÉ BÉEÉÒ +ÉɤÉÉnÉÒ ´ÉÉãÉÉ ¶Éc® cè* xÉä¶ÉxÉãÉ cÉ<´Éä - 8 ÉÊnããÉÉÒ ºÉä àÉÖƤÉ<Ç iÉBÉE VÉÉiÉÉÒ cè, VÉÉä =nªÉ{ÉÖ® ¶Éc® BÉEä àÉvªÉ ºÉä cÉäBÉE® MÉÖVÉ®iÉÉÒ cè* àÉä®É +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä àÉÉvªÉàÉ ºÉä àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ ºÉä ÉÊxÉ´ÉänxÉ cè ÉÊBÉE àÉÖJªÉ ºÉ½BÉE AxÉASÉ-8 cè, VÉÉä £ÉÖ+ÉÉxÉÉ ºÉä ãÉäBÉE® ´ÉɪÉÉ bä¤ÉÉ®ÉÒ +ÉÉè® BÉEɪÉÉ BÉEÉä ¤ÉÉ<Ç{ÉÉºÉ ®Éäb BÉEä °ô{É àÉå {ÉÉÒ{ÉÉÒ{ÉÉÒ àÉÉäb àÉå º´ÉÉÒBÉßEiÉ BÉE®ÉxÉä BÉEä ÉÊãÉA ºÉ®BÉEÉ® ºÉä àÉÉÆMÉ BÉE®iÉÉ cÚÆ* àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : gÉÉÒ SÉxp |ÉBÉEÉ¶É VÉÉä¶ÉÉÒ BÉEÉä gÉÉÒ +ÉVÉÇÖxÉ ãÉÉãÉ àÉÉÒhÉÉ uÉ®É =~ÉA MÉA ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ ºÉƤÉr BÉE®xÉä BÉEÉÒ +ÉxÉÖàÉÉÊiÉ |ÉnÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ VÉÉiÉÉÒ cè* SHRI V. ELUMALAI (ARANI): Thank you, Speaker Madam, for allowing me to raise the matter of urgent public interest during ‘Zero Hour ’. Hon. Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu had a meeting with the hon. Prime Minister on 03/06/2014 and insisted for retrieving Katchatheevu Island back from Sri Lanka and to stop frequent arrest of Tamil Nadu fishermen by Sri Lankan Navy personnel. But time and again Sri Lankan Navy and the Government of Sri Lanka are involved in arresting Tamil Nadu fishermen. On 29/11/2015, eight fishermen fishing on Bak Chaluchandi near Neduntheevu, which is in our own sea territory, were arrested. (p1/1210/sr-nsh) Already 29 Tamil fishermen were in Sri Lankan jail. This is happening day by day. In total 37 fishermen and 53 boats have been used to ensure safe release of arrested Indian fishermen and retrieval of their seized fishing boats. This is under the agreements of 1974 and 1976 that Kachatheevu was handed over to Sri Lanka. Hon. Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu has filed a case in the hon. Supreme Court. High level talks between the two countries are going on. Hon. Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu Dr. Amma has praised this initiative. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 40 I would urge upon the hon. Prime Minister that he should intervene and get back Kachatheevu from Sri Lanka. Kachatheevu should be the part of our territory as it existed before. I would also urge upon the Union Government to deepen the fishing areas along the Indian Coast by allocating Rs.10 crore per year and with the total project outlay of Rs.1520 crore as demanded by the hon. Chief Minister Amma so that the livelihood of thousands of Indian fishermen particularly of Tamil Nadu is protected. àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : bÉì. 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SPEAKER: Shri Bharon Prasad Mishra is permitted to associate with the issue raised by Shri Ashwini Kumar Chaubey. DR. SHASHI THAROOR (THIRUVANANTHAPURAM): Hon. Speaker Madam, I thank you for the opportunity to raise under Zero House the need to abolish the death penalty. Capital punishment cannot be justified as an effective instrument of deterrence. Statistics from the last 30 years suggest that there is no direct co-relation between the number of death penalty executions and the deterrence of crimes. In other words, hanging people does not deter crime. The Law Commission in its report on death penalty has also reiterated this observation. Additionally, the application of the death penalty in India through the rarest of the rare doctrine has left room for subjectivity and bias which is a worrying basis to take a human life. The State should not reduce itself to the level of killers. More than 70 of the member countries of the United Nations have abolished the death penalty and a further 25 per cent have not used it in the last 10 years. A punishment which in our country has largely affected the marginalized and disadvantaged sections of society is an aberration in a healthy democracy. I see that the Ministry of State for Home Affairs is sitting there. I therefore urge the Government to introduce a provision to abolish the death penalty and instead strengthen a preventive and reformative system of justice. That is the only way that we can live up the ideals of Mahatma Gandhi in our own society. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 43 HON. SPEAKER: Shri Dushyant Chautala, Adv. 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SPEAKER: Shri Ravindra Kumar Pandey is permitted to associate with the issue raised by Shri Pashupati Nath Singh. (r1/1220/rsg-rjs) SHRI R.P. MARUTHARAJAA (PERAMBALUR): First of all, I would like to thank the hon. Speaker for giving me an opportunity to place my request in this prestigious House on behalf of the people of my constituency, Perambalur. I humbly submit my profound thanks to the Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Dr. Puratchi Thalaivi Amma. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 44 I have represented during ‘Zero Hour’ and also written several letters to the Ministry concerned for laying of a new railway track and starting a new train service between Ariyalur and Namakkal via Perambalur, Thuraiyur and Thattaiangarpettai in Tamil Nadu. However, there has been no response in the matter so far. I therefore once again request you to grant permission to conduct survey for new railway line and include this scheme in the coming Budget. I would be glad if you could take necessary steps to consider this scheme, as this is a long cherished dream of the people of my constituency. Thank you. SHRIMATI V. SATHYABAMA (TIRUPPUR): Thank you, Madam Speaker. With your permission, I speak from this Chair. The Tamil Nadu Government under the dynamic leadership of hon. Chief Minister Puratchi Thalaivi Dr. Amma is taking all measures to make Tiruppur a most suitable and conducive place for the growth and development of the knitwear industry. The Union Government’s support for the development of the knitwear industry is absolutely essential as most of the issues pertaining to the knitwear industry fall under the purview of the Union Government. Tiruppur is known as the ‘knitwear capital of India’. Knitwear exports from Tiruppur have grown to Rs. 20,730 crore in 2014-15 and is expected to reach the target of Rs. 36,000 crore by 2016-17. At present, the all-India market share of Tiruppur in knitwear exports is 44.29 per cent and this would go up once the industry starts exporting synthetic-based garments which have a market throughout the year globally. The total readymade garment exports from India had for the first time crossed the Rs. 1 lakh crore-mark in 2014-15 to touch Rs. 1.03 lakh crore, which amounts to US $ 16.82 billion. Of this, knitwear exports were Rs. 46,801 crore with a share of 45.43 per cent. Tiruppur at present has got around 3,000 export units and its allied industrial units provide direct and indirect employment to more than 5.5 lakh people. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 45 The knitwear industry which contributes substantially to the export and foreign exchange earnings does not have any exclusive organisation to focus on its development and growth. It is therefore highly important and desirably to establish a Knitwear Board based out of Tiruppur to spearhead and facilitate growth opportunities for this vital industry. 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Recently China has operationalised Zangbo Hydro Project located in Gyaca. They are also constructing three more dams in Dagu, Jie Xu and Jia Chen over Tsangpo river which is Siang in Arunachal Pradesh and Brahmaputra in Assam. I would like to bring to the notice of the Government that we have no river water agreement with China. This will be very disastrous in the long run because there will be water scarcity not only in Arunachal Pradesh but throughout the north-eastern region. The hon. Prime Minister and the hon. Home Minister had some talks with their counterparts in China. Have they taken this issue seriously? It is because if they do not take it seriously it will be very disastrous in the near future. 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The hon. Chief Minister also has written a letter to the hon. Prime Minister on 23.11.2015 seeking immediate release of funds for extending relief measures. The hon. Chief Minister also has requested that a Central team be sent to Tamil Nadu to assess the damage caused by heavy rains. A Central team visited Tamil Nadu and I hope that by now it must have given its report also. The hon. Chief Minister has requested for immediate release of Rs. 8481 crore as on 23.11.2015. On date the requirement of funds would be much more. Hence I would like to request the Centre to release funds immediately to undertake relief and rescue operations. Thank you. HON. SPEAKER: Shrimati V. Satyabama is permitted to associate with the issue raised by Dr. P. 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SPEAKER: Hon. Members, the Matters under Rule 377 shall be laid on the Table of the House. Members who have been permitted to raise matters under Rule 377 today and are desirous of laying them, may personally hand over text of the matter at the Table of the House within 20 minutes. Only those matters shall be treated as laid for which text of the matter has been received at the Table within the stipulated time and the rest will be treated as lapsed. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 53 DISCUSSION RE: SITUATION ARISING OUT OF INCIDENTS OF INTOLERANCE IN THE COUNTRY -- Contd. 1241 hours HON. SPEAKER: Now, the House will take up discussion under Rule 193. Shri P. Kumar. ºÉ£ÉÉÒ ãÉÉäMÉ ºÉàÉªÉ BÉEÉ vªÉÉxÉ ®JÉå iÉlÉÉ +É{ÉxÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ ºÉÆFÉä{É àÉå BÉEcå* 1241 hours SHRI P. KUMAR (TIRUCHIRAPPALLI): Madam Speaker, thank you for the opportunity given to me to speak on the issue of ‘Rising incidents of intolerance in the country’. For the first time in Independent India, people of all hues have openly expressed outrage on the culture of impatience or intolerance that is growing in our country presently. India is a large, heterogeneous and diverse country and also the largest democracy in the history of the world. More than a billion people need to live and work together in harmony and peace. With such a large population, even a ‘minority’ group in India has a population that is much larger than the population of many countries. The fact that such a diverse set of social, linguistic and religious groups are able to continue to live together peacefully should never be underestimated as a major historical achievement. At the same time, the continued peaceful co-existence is something that cannot be taken for granted, nor can it be ensured by force or by harsh laws. It is the willing cooperation of all the people and the need for all the people living in this country to feel very much a part of the national mainstream which is very essential for this state of being to continue. We have to be very vigilant and watchful to ensure that this delicate balance is not upset or disturbed by hot- headed statements or by intemperate expressions of divisive opinions. A larger number of social groups live in this country. Their emotions and sentiments and sense of oneness with the idea of India need to be preserved and carefully nurtured. In that sense, tolerance is a two-way street, which has to be 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 54 apparent in both what is spoken or expressed to begin with and in the manner in which one reacts or responds to the expressions of others. There has to be maturity and sensitivity that has to be displayed by everyone in public space, be they public servants, politicians, writers, artists, media persons or community leaders. There are times when this sense of balance and maturity appears to get somewhat skewed, leading to a sense of outrage from other sections of society. Hence, maturity and restraint on all sides is something which is very essential to restore the sense of balance which is very essential in publicly asserting and voicing various views and opinions. We do hope that this debate helps to restore that sense of balance in the country. (x1/1245/brv-rps) Yet another crucial element is that in no case can violence be deemed to be the solution to any such problem of perception that arises.Whatever may be the provocation that is offered, resort to violence can never be condoned. It is the duty of the State to curb and put down violence firmly. The State machinery has to be geared up for this purpose. In some instances, the State machinery also has to act pre-emptively to prevent violence or unrest. Hence, opinions on sensitive issues need to be voiced with responsibility, maturity and restraint by all concerned. The Government needs to step in, in cases where some of this balance and restraint is lost. It is an irony that those who have vowed to safeguard Constitutional rights are themselves challenging the Constitution with inflammatory statements and hate speeches instilling a fear in the minorities. There were articles in newspapers which suggested that there were isolated incidents, aberrations, and law and order problems. But the protests were hurting the image of India globally. What is more worrying is that such incidents may puncture India’s secular fabric. It is more hurting to learn that this may have serious impacts on economic development of our country. In terms of our economy, top Indian business leaders 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 55 state that if there is growing hostility towards minorities, there is a fear that there will be decreased attractiveness for foreign investors to put their money in India. This would jeopardize economic growth and investment flow into India. So, it will be pertinent for the Indian Parliament to send out a re-assuring message so that economically we do not suffer. Recent developments in information and communication technology have also complicated the issue. With the use of social media, what are basically individual views can be disseminated on a very wide scale. Being individual views, they sometimes do tend to be expressed in an intemperate manner or without adequate restraint causing their own set of problems. This also sets off an “outrage” in the social media space. Unfortunately, the mainstream media tends to take a lot of notice of what the social media says although the social media often does not give adequate importance to the mainstream media. Hence, as a society, we need to be careful about how we adapt this new-found means of expressing views. Madam Speaker, Tamil Nadu, under the leadership of the hon. Chief Minister Puratchi Thalaivi Amma, has always been a haven of peace and tranquillity where communal harmony has always been preserved. Yesterday, the hon. Member Shri Mahtab mentioned during his speech about the arrest of Shri Kovan in Tamil Nadu. He gave wrong information to the House… ( Interruptions ) Let me complete it. He gave wrong information to the House because Tamil Nadu Government is taking all steps to maintain law and order.… ( Interruptions ) Sir, I have not completed my speech. After completion, you can respond. In this connection, I would like to say that Shri Kovan is instigating some persons by way of his activities to disturb peace in Tamil Nadu. That is why, the Tamil Nadu Government is taking action against him. This is the truth in the arrest of Shri Kovan. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 56 SHRI BHARTRUHARI MAHTAB (CUTTACK): Madam, I just want to clarify it. I was quoting Shri Jayanta Mahapatra, a poet of international acclaim who has written a letter to the hon. President of India. That was not my opinion nor was I giving any wrong information to the House. A large number of litterateurs of Odisha have condemned what Shri Jayanta Mahapatra has written in Odisha. I do not know what is happening in other parts of the country. As I said earlier, a large number of litterateurs, eminent personalities of Odisha have condemned this. He is a single member from Odisha who has written like this and has returned his Padma Shri Award. He is a Sahitya Akademi Award winner. He has come out in the Press saying: “I am not returning my Sahitya Akademi Award. I am returning my Padma Shri Award.” That has created more confusion. So, that was not my intention. Personally, being a journalist, I know what type of message he was perpetrating in Tamil Nadu. The onus lies with the Government to take action. So, I am not disputing that. But I was only referring to what Shri Jayanta Mahapatra had written. That was my intention. SHRI P. KUMAR (TIRUCHIRAPPALLI): Madam Speaker, in the Kovan matter, the Tamil Nadu Government takes its own steps, it is taking its own course of action. The Tamil Nadu Chief Minister may take any steps in this regard. Madam, I will now continue my speech. It may be recalled that even when the Babri Masjid incident took place on 6.12.1992, and there were large-scale disturbances all over the country, no untoward incident happened anywhere in Tamil Nadu. (y1/1250/spr-mm) India needs to find its own path in ensuring that all social groups in the country continue to live in harmony. Western values applicable to homogenous societies are more difficult to apply directly to a very heterogeneous and diverse country like India. We hope this discussion will enable us to find the right path in this regard and the very essential sense of balance and restraint is restored to public discourse and 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 57 discussion in the country. The Government of India will have a great contribution to make to ensure that a sense of balance and restraint is always maintained at any cost . Here, I am very happy to say that Tamil Nadu is a State known for keeping up communal harmony. There are several examples to cite this. In Srirangam Temple, which comes under in my Constituency, there is a shrine next to the main sanctum sanctorum, dedicated to Thulukka Naachiyar, an Islamic Princess. Once a year, the Kalyana Utsav (marriage celebration) of Thulukka Naachiyar with Ranganatha is celebrated with great enthusiasm. Another place called Nagore in Tamil Nadu is known for its religious harmony for more than 500 years. Saint Qadir Wali is enshrined in a place widely known as Nagore Dargah to which people of all religions throng, with faith and seeking cure for problems. People believe that they get cure for all their ills. The miracle has been happening since 16th century and it still continues. When the Tanjore king Achuthappa Naiker of 16th Century AD was bed-ridden after he suffered a paralytic stroke, a visiting saint Qadir Wali restored the health of the King. At a time when the world is facing serious threats in the name of religion, it is remarkable that Nagore still survives on harmony. Qadir Wali served the people of all religions with his miraculous powers. Nagore Dargah was built on land donated by King Achuthappa Naik. Many important parts of the Dargah were built by the generous donation of non-Muslims. This shows that it is a symbol of religious harmony. India is a country of immense diversity, the communion of several beliefs, path of universal truth seeker and a land of deep spirituality. The Shrine Basilica of Our Lady of Velankanni in Nagapattinam District in my State is another popular pilgrimage destination of the world. To this magnificent pilgrim centre, people flock throughout the year, from all over the world irrespective of caste, creed, colour and religion, to offer prayers and to obtain gracious blessings for their well-being from the Blessed Virgin Mary of Velankanni . In fact non-Christians outnumber the 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 58 Christians, and thus, Velankanni stands as the role model for the national , social , cultural and religious integration and universal brotherhood. Tamil Nadu is a peaceful haven and an abode of communal harmony under the able leadership of Hon. Chief Minister Dr. Puratchi Thalaivi Amma. A ruler should be non-partisan and pragmatic . I am very happy to say that in Tamil Nadu, Hon. Chief Minister of Tam il Nadu Dr. Puratchi Thalaivi Amma has been prov iding financial assistance to Hindu, Muslim, Christian pilgrims who travel to the sacred destinations of Kailash-Manasarovar, Muktidham, and to Christian pilgrims who travel to Jerusalem and also to Muslims going to Haj. Before concluding, I would like to add that it is apt to say that Tamil Nadu is certainly a role model for other States to emulate and follow especially in maintaining communal and religious harmony. I would like the Government. to re-assure the House and the country, by condemning such killings, reognizing the principle of 'Unity in Divers ity', and stating that they stand by the Constitution of India. We have always cherished in the fact that our democracy is a very vibrant and a very tolerant one. Thank you, Madam. (ends) DR. M. THAMBIDURAI (KARUR): Madam, I would like to say in this regard that inside the Srirangam temple there is a shrine next to the main sanctum sanctorum, dedicated to Thulukka Naachiyar, an Islamic Princess. The hon. Member has just now mentioned about the unity, which is an example to showcase our Indian culture, where Hindus, Muslims or Christians come together in a friendly way. 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VÉÉnÚ-]Éä]BÉEÉ +ÉÉÉÊn <ºÉ |ÉBÉEÉ® BÉEÉÒ SÉÉÒVÉÉå BÉEÉ ÉÊ´É®ÉävÉ BÉE®xÉÉ º´ÉÉMÉiɪÉÉäMªÉ cè, {É®ÆiÉÖ ÉÊ´É®ÉävÉ BÉE®iÉä ºÉàÉªÉ BÉE£ÉÉÒ-BÉE£ÉÉÒ ÉÊBÉEºÉÉÒ vÉàÉÇ BÉEÉ +É{ÉàÉÉxÉ ªÉÉ =xÉBÉEÉÒ £ÉÉ´ÉxÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ BÉEÉä nÖJÉ {ÉcÖÆSÉiÉÉ cè, AäºÉä ºÉàÉªÉ {É® nÖJÉ {ÉcÖÆSÉÉxÉä ´ÉÉãÉä BÉEÉ ÉÊ´É®ÉävÉ BÉE®xÉÉ BÉDªÉÉ +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ cÉäiÉÉÒ cè? {ÉÉÉÊBÉEºiÉÉxÉÉÒ ÉÊJÉãÉÉÉʽªÉÉå +ÉÉè® MÉɪÉBÉEÉå BÉEä ÉÊãÉA ®äb BÉEÉ®{Éä] ÉʤÉUɪÉÉ VÉÉiÉÉ cè, =xÉBÉEÉ º´ÉÉMÉiÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ VÉÉiÉÉ cè* {ÉÉÉÊBÉEºiÉÉxÉÉÒ ãÉäJÉBÉEÉå BÉEÉÒ ÉÊBÉEiÉɤÉÉå BÉEÉ |ÉBÉEɶÉxÉ ÉËcnÖºiÉÉxÉ àÉå 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 60 vÉÚàÉvÉÉàÉ ºÉä ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ VÉÉiÉÉ cè* ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 61 (a2/1300/rcp/gg) 1300 hours SHRI JAYADEV GALLA (GUNTUR): Thank you, Madam, for giving me an opportunity to speak on intolerance. During the Continental Drift, the Indian Sub-Continent separated from Africa, drifted across the Indian Ocean, and came crashing into Asia, forming the mighty Himalayas, Hindu Kush, and surrounding mountain ranges. These mountain ranges acted as a barrier for entry for millions of years. As people learned to cross these barriers, migration into India began, and India became the first melting pot in the world. There are only three pure races in this world: Negroid who are the people of Africa and the aboriginals in other parts of the world, Caucasoid who are the Caucasians mostly of Europe, and Mongoloid who are the oriental people. Indians are not a pure race. If you mix all the colours of the rainbow, what do you get? You get brown; and that is what we are. We are a mixed race of brown people. Throughout the ages, large groups of people have come to India, but no group has ever left India en masse . I have never heard of the term Indian refugees. People have never had to flee India, due to religious persecution in the history of our country. Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world, with roots tracing back to prehistoric times, over 5,000 years ago. It is a fusion or synthesis of various Indian cultures and traditions. Hindu synthesis started to develop between 500 BC and 300 BC, after the Vedic Period, during which time Buddhism and Jainism were also founded. Judaism first came to India around 500 BC. Christianity came in 50 AD. Islam came in the early seventh Century. Sikhism was founded in India in the late 15 th Century. India was always prepared to integrate itself with all these religions. There is no doubt that most of the kingdoms, especially the successful ones, 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 62 gave people the freedom to worship the religion of their choice, whether they were majority or minority. Any kingdom or empire that curtailed this freedom did not last long and has seen its downfall. India has been known for its tolerance for ages. Forgiveness and peaceful co-existence are innate and in-built in our culture, tradition and ethos. Being the most diverse country on earth, we are tolerant to each other's ideas, ideals and faith, unless and until some religious or political patriarchic groups intervene to design the differences into conflicts. The glaring example of this was when the British ruled India. They used caste, region and religion to pursue their 'divide and rule' policy. Of course, such nefarious or manufactured designs did succeed at times, but they were momentary and never lasted long. That is the strength and beauty of our country. Our forefathers, including my own grandfather, who was a freedom fighter, and a member of this august house, led by Mahatma Gandhi, realized the weaknesses in the Indian society and how we played into the British hands. They also realized that unless we unite as Indians first, we cannot succeed. This unity among us has given us Independence after centuries of foreign rule. We have to preserve this at any cost. We just completed discussing the circumstances under which the Indian Constitution was written, with the backdrop of the bloody partition, in which millions of lives were lost due to sectarian violence. It enshrines for all the social equality regardless of gender, caste, religion or region and the ideals of justice, liberty, equality and fraternity. For a short time, this worked quite effectively. Then came the era of vote bank politics. We all know when it was started, and by whom it was started. Due to political greed, an attempt to divide this country is once again being pursued. Preying on marginalized and weaker sections, unscrupulous elements are misusing the words like 'secularism' and 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 63 'intolerance' to further divide the country. They are playing caste politics and exploiting minorities to make them into vote banks; this must be stopped. If not, our political class will be responsible for not only fueling intolerance but also for the inevitable rise of religious extremism whether they be Hindu or Muslim. This type of intolerance between Muslims and Jews, between Shias and Sunnis, is what continues to fuel the wars that we see in the Middle East. (b2/1305/rp-cp) Madam, the intolerance in western societies for people of different faiths and from non-western countries, the games that they play with their bombs and their military superiority, to overthrow governments without caring for what happens to the people who are left in the vacuum that they leave behind, is fueling both religious extremism and terrorism due to the resentment and hatred that is generated. It is high time for the world to realize that all terrorists are the same. We are the worst affected country in the world due to terrorism. But, we are not raising anti-Islamic rallies nor we are aware of the word ‘Islamaphobia’. As our hon. Home Minister pointed out in his address on the Constitution, Islam has 72 sects and India is the only country in the world where you have all the 72 sects present. Lately, I have seen that ISIS flags are now-a-days shown even in Jammu and Kashmir by misguided youth. We are only trying to guide and educate them not to fall in the ISIS trap and destroy their career but we are not persecuting them. Once Spain and Portugal, at one time, were also Muslim countries. Then, during the Spanish Inquisition, Muslims were brutally taken out. We do not do that. We have never done that. Rather, we actually celebrate our Mughal Dynasty and this period is as much a part of our culture and history as any other. And, Indian traders also spread Islam in South East Asia. That is not all. We have been the home for persecuted communities like Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Islam, Tibetan 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 64 Buddhists, early Christianity and so on. I think, these examples give enough indication that India is not only tolerant to other cultures but also respects, appreciates and celebrates them. It is the experience of everyone here when there are two siblings at home; it is quite natural that there exists a bit of contradiction and disunity. In the same way, when different faiths co-exist in a single political or geographical arena, there do exist some differences at times. And, such contradictions or differences are not new to India but have existed throughout her medieval and modern periods. But the problem arises only when someone ‘switches-on’ the debate on growing intolerance during a ‘particular period’ with malicious intentions to achieve some political objectives and then ‘switches-off’ when that ‘particular period’ is over and the objectives are achieved. This is not acceptable in a country like India. Coming to some of the incidents that have taken place in the last eight to ten months be it Dadri lynching or throwing ink on face of people with different ideology or killing of Kalburgi or Dhabolkar or similar such incidents, our Party, the Telugu Desam Party, never subscribes nor supports, nor justifies such things and we condemn them in the strongest possible language. But, at the same time, I ask you: “How can the NDA Government at the Centre be responsible for such incidents?” Law and order is the State subject as per the condition. If any such incident takes place, the State Government concerned is free to take legal action against the culprits. Instead of taking action, how is it justified to blame the Union Government? If there is a role of the Union Government, let it be proved before raising a voice against the Government of India. So, the incompetence of State Governments cannot be construed as the failure of the hon. Prime Minister nor the hon. Home Minister. So, I only wish that States take stern action against them. Otherwise, there is every possibility that such incidents will be repeated in other States, which is more dangerous to the secular fabric of this country. Madam, I am reminded of the Austrian-British philosopher, Sir Raimond Popper and his “Paradox of Intolerance’ which says: ‘Essentially one who raises 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 65 his voice against intolerance is being intolerant of the rival opinions.’ We do need to be intolerant but what is it that we need to be intolerant about? We need to be intolerant about corruption, exploiting poor, weak and marginalized; forces or induced religious conversion; terrorism; sexual harassment and abuse of women and children; prejudice; inequality of opportunities; leaving farmers stranded in a debt trap; police brutality; dowry harassment; caste conflicts; obstructing development and discrimination by religion, caste, creed, region, colour and language. (c2/1310/lh-hcb) I fully support Dr. Thambi Durai’s suggestion that all languages should find a place in Parliament with simultaneous translation, and would also suggest that the same should be extended to the broadcast on Lok Sabha TV and Rajya Saha TV as well. Technology is available for viewers to choose the language of their choice. All citizens should have the right to view and understand the proceedings in Parliament. Why should it be restricted only to people who understand Hindi or English? This is discrimination, Madam, which can be easily solved and there is no reason why it should not be done. In conclusion, I would like to take a moment to reflect and elevate this discussion. Why should tolerance be our ultimate goal? Why should we only tolerate each other? Madam, is that really our goal? Tolerance is only the lowest common denominator. Rather, we should be striving for acceptance, respect and love, leading to a society that lives in peace and harmony. Thank you, Madam. Jai Hind! HON. SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 2.10 p.m. 1311 hours The Lok Sabha then adjourned till ten minutes past Fourteen of the Clock. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 66 (d2/kkd/ mkg/1410) 1413 hours The Lok Sabha re-assembled after Lunch at thirteen minutes past Fourteen of the Clock. ( Hon. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair ) DISCUSSION RE: SITUATION ARISING OUT OF INCIDENTS OF INTOLERANCE IN THE COUNTRY -- Contd. 1413 hours HON. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Hon. Members, let us continue with the discussion under Rule 193. Now, Shri A.P. Jithender Reddy. Kindly be very brief as the time at our disposal is short. 1413 ¤ÉVÉä gÉÉÒ A.{ÉÉÒ. ÉÊVÉiÉäxp ®äbÂbÉÒ (àÉc¤ÉÚ¤ÉxÉMÉ®) : àÉé ABÉE cÉÒ ÉÊàÉxÉ] àÉå JÉiàÉ BÉE® ®cÉ cÚÆ, àÉÖZÉä VªÉÉnÉ xÉcÉÓ ¤ÉÉäãÉxÉÉ cè* Thank you very much, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to speak on this every important subject. +ɺÉcxÉ +ÉÉè® ºÉcxÉ BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå ªÉc SÉSÉÉÇ VÉÉä +ÉÉVÉ SÉãÉ ®cÉÒ cè, nںɮä ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä VÉÉä ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉEÉÒ, nںɮÉå BÉEä àÉÉÉÊ{ÉEBÉE vÉàÉÇ, àÉVÉc¤É BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå àÉé xÉcÉÓ VÉÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ* iÉäãÉÆMÉÉxÉÉ ®ÉVªÉ àÉå càÉÉ®ä VÉÉä àÉÖJªÉàÉÆjÉÉÒ BÉEä.ºÉÉÒ.+ÉÉ®. VÉÉÒ cé, +É¤É ®ÉVªÉ BÉEÉ MÉ~xÉ cÉäxÉä BÉEä ¤ÉÉn bäfà ºÉÉãÉ cÉä ®cÉ cè* iÉäãÉÆMÉÉxÉÉ BÉEä +Éxn® ABÉE MÉÆMÉÉ-VÉàÉÖxÉÉÒ iÉcVÉÉÒ¤É ºÉä càÉ SÉãÉ ®cä cé* (e2/1415/rv-smn) càÉ àÉÉxÉiÉä cé ÉÊBÉE iÉäãÉÆMÉÉxÉÉ àÉå ÉÊcxnÚ +ÉÉè® àÉÖÉκãÉàÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 67 càÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä lÉÉä½ÉÒ-ºÉÉÒ +ɺÉcàÉÉÊiÉ cè* càÉxÉä {ÉcãÉä cÉÒ ÉÊnxÉ ¤ÉiÉɪÉÉ lÉÉ ÉÊBÉE càÉÉ®É VÉÉä ®ÉVªÉ cè, ªÉc xɪÉÉ ®ÉVªÉ cè* <ºÉBÉEÉ lÉÉä½É {ÉÉä−ÉhÉ BÉEÉÒÉÊVÉA* càÉå lÉÉä½ÉÒ ºÉcɪÉiÉÉ BÉEÉÒÉÊVÉA* ºÉÉ~ ºÉÉãÉÉå iÉBÉE càÉÉ®ä ®ÉVªÉ àÉå nںɮä |Énä¶É BÉEä ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä VÉÉä °ôÉËãÉMÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ lÉÉ, iÉÉä càÉÉ®É {ÉÉxÉÉÒ, càÉÉ®É <à{ãÉÉìªÉàÉå] +ÉÉè® càÉÉ®É VÉÉä {ÉÚ®É BÉEÉä−É lÉÉ, ´Éc {ÉÚ®É càÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå ºÉä ãÉÖ] MɪÉÉ lÉÉ* càÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä c® ÉÊb{ÉÉ]ÇàÉå], c® ÉÊàÉÉÊxɺ]ÅÉÒ ºÉä àÉÉÆMÉ BÉEÉÒ lÉÉÒ* càÉ VªÉÉnÉ BÉÖEU xÉcÉÓ àÉÉÆMÉiÉä cé* càÉ nںɮä BÉEÉ cCÉE £ÉÉÒ UÉÒxÉxÉÉ xÉcÉÓ SÉÉciÉä cé* iÉäãÉÆMÉÉxÉÉ àÉå {ÉcãÉä ºÉä ªÉc £ÉÉ´ÉxÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE càÉÉ®ÉÒ VÉÉä SÉÉÒWÉ cè, càÉ =ºÉÉÒ BÉEä cn àÉå ®cxÉÉ SÉÉciÉä cé* +ÉÉÆwÉ |Énä¶É ÉÊ®-+ÉÉì®MÉäxÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 68 factory. ªÉc VÉÉä càÉÉ®ÉÒ +ɺÉcàÉÉÊiÉ cè, càÉ =ºÉBÉEä >ó{É® ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉE® ®cä cé* càɺÉä VÉÉä ]ÉìãÉ®ä] xÉcÉÓ cÉä ®cÉ cè, càÉ =ºÉBÉEä >ó{É® ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉE® ®cä cé* (f2/1420/mmn-cp) HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have forgotten the Home Minister. You are only looking at the Finance Minister. That is the problem. SHRI A.P. JITHENDER REDDY (MAHABUBNAGAR): Not only to them, but also we are having many problems. AàÉ{ÉÉÒãÉèb弃 BÉEÉÒ +ɺÉcàÉÉÊiÉ BÉEÉ xÉcÉÓ cè, àÉä®ÉÒ ´Éc |ÉɤãÉàÉ xÉcÉÓ cè* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) What I am saying is, my State is a newly born State and we are trying to build up. We have been going around all the Ministries. We have met all the Ministers and we have told them our problems. But even then we are not waiting for anybody to come. We have said we will build our own State. Our Chief Minister has, from day one, solved the problem of electricity. Today we are giving 24/7 power. Regarding drinking water, we have already asked the Panchayati Raj Minister to provide us funds for that but till date nothing has been given. But our Chief Minister is not waiting for that. We are not tolerating all that. We are not subjecting ourselves to wait for any person to come and give it to us. Already a Watergrid programme has been taken up. The same way we have met Uma Bharti Ji also. We have asked her to give us funds for our water resources programmes. We have not got anything. Even then we have already started our Kakatiya Mission and we are restoring all the lakes and ponds. Even for the irrigation projects, especially for the Pranahita Chevella, nothing was given. They have promised that a national project will be given to every State. Even today they have not given. However, we are going ahead with our works. So, seeing all the progress which is being done in the State also, we have been requesting the hon. Finance Minister. We have been going to the Home Minister and requesting him for the bifurcation of the High Court. Nothing has happened. Till date the division of the offices is still pending. So, what I am saying is, this is intolerance. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 69 Regarding the other subject, I am not telling here that my people are trying to go. ªÉcÉÄ {É® xÉcÉÓ cÉä ®cÉ cè iÉÉä àÉé nںɮä nä¶É àÉå VÉÉBÉE® =xÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä ¤ÉºÉxÉä BÉEä ÉÊãÉA xÉcÉÓ BÉEc ®cÉ cÚÄ* àÉä®ä àÉÖJªÉàÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ ºÉ¤ÉBÉEÉ +ÉÉn® BÉE® ®cä cé +ÉÉè® ¤ÉÉäãÉ ®cä cé ÉÊBÉE 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 70 (g2/1425/vr/raj) HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Members, those who are interested to lay their written speeches, can lay them on the Table of the House. The ongoing discussion is on the situation arising out of incidents of intolerance in the country raised by Shri Md. Salim on 31 st November. Therefore, the hon. Members are requested to raise the points only related to the discussion. SHRI MALLIKARJUN KHARGE (GULBARGA): Sir, I want to bring to your kind notice that this notice stands in the name of S/Shri P. Karunakaran and K.C. Venugopal and the agenda also came in that way. Shri Mohammad Salim initiated the discussion because he authorized him to. HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: But, authorization request was accepted. … ( Interruptions ) SHRI MALLIKARJUN KHARGE (GULBARGA): He was authorized to speak on behalf of Shri P. Karunakaran. So, in the agenda it should not go like that. It should go in the name of Shri P. Karunakaran and Shri K.C. Venugopal. HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri P. Karunakaran relinquished his chance and authorized Md. Salim to speak. … ( Interruptions ) SHRI K.C. VENUGOPAL (ALAPPUZHA): I have also given the notice. My name is there in the list. … ( Interruptions ) HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That is alright. But I spoke only the name who initiated the debate. You also say that it was started by Md. Salim. Yesterday, you also spoke in the same way. … ( Interruptions ) SHRI K.C. VENUGOPAL (ALAPPUZHA): My name is there in the list itself.… (Interruptions ) HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: OK. Whatever you raised can be added. There is no problem in it. Now, Shri Varaprasad Rao. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 71 1426 hours SHRI VARAPRASAD RAO VELAGAPALLI (TIRUPATI): Thank you very much, Sir. I may be permitted to speak from this seat. HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: OK, you can speak from there. SHRI VARAPRASAD RAO VELAGAPALLI (TIRUPATI): Sir, India is known for its secularity and democracy all over the world. In fact, several countries of late are looking up to India for its vibrant democracy and true secularism. What is happening of late in the last eight months is a little disturbing and people like us request the people at the helm of affairs to arrest this kind of trend so that whatever the name India has in the world could be continued. First, it started with Gharvapsi . India has already more than hundred crore of Hindus who are extremely poor and thousands of temples are in a very dilapidated condition where poojas and archnas are not being done. If they are really interested in the Hindu religion and want to protect it, instead of getting into this kind of controversy they may focus on the renovation of temples and revival of poojas and archnas in temples. I want to share here my personal experience when I was an IAS officer in Tamil Nadu. Madam, Jayalalitha, initially tried with anti-conversion law, but people resisted it. She immediately withdrew the anti-conversion law and respected the sentiments of the people. Then, she has taken up renovation of temples, conducted poojas and appointed the archikas annadhanam in several temples. Thereby she has helped the Hinduism to come up. If they really want to do service to the Hinduism, that kind of steps should be taken even at the higher level. Then, the issue of beef eating came up. For centuries people have been eating of their own choice. Ours is a secular and democratic country. No Government, however majority it has, presuming that it has 545 seats, has the right to tinker with the basic structure of the Constitution. In fact, one thing can be appreciated when hon. Minister of State in the Ministry of Home Affairs, Shri 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 72 Kiren Rijiju said: ‘I have every right to eat beef and he challenged it if anybody could stop him.’ (h2/1430/san-nsh) That means eating is a personal choice. In the incidents of lynching which took place at Dadri and other incidents which happened in Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir, all the three people belonged to the minorities. Nobody at the helm of affairs could condemn that. At least in one incident of Dadri, it is clearly established that a BJP functionary was behind it. This is not my view. … (Interruptions ) Let me complete. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI KIREN RIJIJU): Sir, the hon. Member took my name. So, I would like to clarify. I did not challenge anybody. I just made a statement in front of the civil society in Mizoram, which is dominated by one particular community, that eating is a personal habit and nobody will come and force you at home as to what to eat and what not to eat. So, in the media, it came out as if I have gone out of the way and made a challenge to the people that ‘come and stop me’. That wrong impression was created. Secondly, he made a statement about Dadri incident. He cannot make a conclusive remark here that a BJP member was involved. Till the report comes from the UP Government, how can he make a statement that a BJP member was involved there? … ( Interruptions ) No. But he cannot make a wrong factual statement on the floor of the House. … ( Interruptions ) SHRI VARAPRASAD RAO VELAGAPALLI (TIRUPATI): Hon. Minister must also appreciate that I am only saying what has appeared in the newspapers. If that is the case, you can as well condemn that. If you find that no BJP functionary is involved, you can as well say that and your image will go up. That is all I can say. I am not against BJP or any Government. Ours is a very small party and extremely political neutral. We have no comments. What all we want to say is that India all along has been like this. The present BJP Government has to take a 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 73 golden leaf from the past BJP Government where Vajpayee had said against the Gujarat riots ‘it is a blot on the democracy’ when the party in power at the Centre was BJP and the party in power in Gujarat was also BJP. You could say that. We want that kind of people here so that the entire comity of nations will admire India. I am not talking politics here. Why can we not pick up a golden leaf from the book of Vajpayee’s life? Sir, the incidents of killing of the rationalist Kalburgi, Dhabolkar and Govind Pansare are unfortunate and highly condemnable. Again here, what I have seen in the newspaper is – for people like us, we will not be talking politics here – that Bajrang Dal people are behind all the three incidents. The fourth rationalist was also cautioned that if he does not mend his way, he will also meet the same fate as all the other three who have been killed. … ( Interruptions ) If that is the case, perhaps it is right. … ( Interruptions ) We do not deny it. Then, why are these kinds of things going on? Why do you not say against them? That is all I want to say. Now, I come to returning of awards. People in a democratic country have different ways of expressing their anguish because we have lot of freedom. All along we have been enjoying it. It is not that anybody has given us this freedom; it is enshrined in the Constitution. It is unprecedented that more than 45 Sahitya Academy awardees and Padamshree awardees have returned their awards. They should not humiliate them by saying that those people are trying to pay their own patronage because after all, they got their awards with much hard work. Just as we work for politics life-long, these writers also have dedicated their lives to entertain the people and create awareness. So, instead of worrying that 50 people have returned their awards, still criticizing them is very unfortunate. (j2/1435/ak-nk) When people like Noble Prize Award winner Prof. Amartya Sen said that : “It is unfortunate to live in a place like this because in the past India was extremely peaceful and tolerant, and presently it is becoming intolerant”. He has no politics, 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 74 and what all we need is an eye-opener. The people have given a wonderful verdict and you have a lot of things to do like development and other things instead of getting into these smaller kinds of things. Again, the political intolerance and statements that several MPs and Ministers are making are not required and is not a healthy trend in a democratic country, which could be avoided. By making such kind of statements, in fact, deliberately, some of the people at the helm of affairs are trying to wake up the sleeping rivals. So, that could have been avoided by the people at the top. For example, I can again mention that the Congress Vice-President does not do his homework or there is no sign of revival of the Congress or the Left Party is losing its relevance. All these kinds of political intolerance, if really that happen, all the more happy because you could continue for more years. So, that kind of hurting the sentiments of other political parties could be avoided. Now, a good trend has taken place after 18 months and controversies like ‘Ghar Vapsi ’ and so many others. Now, the hon. Prime Minister has chosen to invite the important Opposition Leaders. It is a very good trend. Now, it has been realised that instead of majority rule the broader consensus is advisable. It is a very good trend, and I hope that for the rest of the term the Government will continue that way. Thereafter, we will have a very smooth running of the Parliament, and thereby the Parliament could really contribute for country’s development where really pending issues are there like poverty eradication. We have promised this in several ways in several things. The House is for all, and in the last 18 months, at least, in my Constituency, I did not see even a single house being constructed. Is this the kind of development that we look up to? I was one of the persons who strongly believed that the BJP is one of the disciplined Parties, and they may live up to the expectations as it was in the past. In the future also they can live up to the expectations and the people would be deciding about it. Recently, the Pakistan Poet, Fahmida Riaz, stated that iÉÖàÉ ÉʤÉãBÉÖEãÉ càÉ VÉèºÉä ÉÊxÉBÉEãÉä* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 75 You turned out to be just like us, which means she is speaking from the Pakistan soil and had the guts to say this. This means that they were all holding India in very high esteem. After seeing 18 months incidents she could say that you turned out to be just like us. It is really an eye-opener for us. Let us not give that kind of impression to the rest of the world. Some of the earlier Speakers were telling as to all that is happening in a State is a State subject like law and order, etc. Many of us cannot buy that argument for the simple reason that the Central Government, all said and done, is mighty. (k2/1440/sr-rjs) It has the IAS officers at every State. Presently, the people are highly aware of this. Even if the BJP, to some extent, may not have very big presence in Andhra Pradesh, yet the BJP at the Centre gives a voice at the lower level. Therefore, to make the present democracy a more secular country, the Government could say and advise their party leaders, party functionaries and the Ministers not to give any provocative statements. When a person like the hon. Minister Shri V.K. Singh, who held a very high esteemed post of the Chief of the Indian Army, is giving such kind of comments every now and then, insulting human beings, comparing human beings with dogs is extremely unfortunate. … ( Interruptions ) SHRIMATI KIRRON KHER (CHANDIGARH): He did not do that. … (Interruptions ) SHRI VARAPRASAD RAO VELAGAPALLI (TIRUPATI): Perhaps, you should check up. People like us will not talk politics here. We are not talking any politics here. It is very unfortunate. And comparing some of the human beings as dogs is extremely unfortunate. That kind of statements could be avoided. Therefore, people have given the verdict only to rule within the ambit of the Constitution, not beyond that. With these words, I thank the Chair for giving me the opportunity and also my Party for giving me the opportunity. (ends) 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 76 *DR. SUBHASH RAMRAO BHAMRE (DHULE): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 77 * SHRI P.C. MOHAN (BANGALORE CENTRAL): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 78 ¯gÉÉÒ cÖBÉÖEàÉ É˺Éc (BÉEè®ÉxÉÉ) : * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 79 ¯gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉÉÒ´É ºÉÉiÉ´É (ÉËcMÉÉäãÉÉÒ) : * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 80 * SHRI Y.V. SUBBA REDDY (ONGOLE): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 81 *SHRI C.R. CHAUDHARY (NAGAUR): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 82 * SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMCHANDRAN (VADAKARA): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 83 ¯gÉÉÒ {ÉÉÒ.{ÉÉÒ.SÉÉèvÉ®ÉÒ ({ÉÉãÉÉÒ) : * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 84 ¯gÉÉÒ £ÉÉxÉÖ |ÉiÉÉ{É É˺Éc ´ÉàÉÉÇ (VÉÉãÉÉèxÉ) : * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 85 ¯gÉÉÒ àÉÖBÉEä¶É ®ÉVÉ{ÉÚiÉ ({ÉE°ôJÉɤÉÉn) : * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 86 1442 hours SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (BARAMATI): Sir, I thank you very much. It is really an irony of history when we look back at this debate, we will definitely wonder that we were discussing the Constitution Day for two days and immediately after that, we are discussing Intolerance in India. I think, that is really a strange happening. With great disappointment, I stand here to participate in this debate. India is going through a lot of challenges. When the mandate for this Government came, we all hoped that we are looking for a developed India. But today if you read any newspaper or watch any channel, actually we are looking at a divided India. It may be at the superficial level, but it still exists in everybody’s mind. There are very serious concerns from various sections of society. There is a debate today on tolerance and intolerance. Every society in the world has tolerance and intolerance. I appreciate the statement of the hon. Home Minister when he started the debate by saying that let us not make it political, let us really talk about people who have suffered and find solutions for it. I am grateful that he is present here today. I would definitely like to say that I represent and come from a State which is suffering of intolerance. Intolerance does not have to necessarily mean blood shed and death, like it unfortunately happened in Uttar Pradesh. In Maharashtra, we are very proud of our tradition. We come from an exceptionally modern State which gave direction to bring change in this nation whether it was women’s rights, whether it was Dalit’s rights. We do not just talk about Mahatma Jyotiba Phule, Ambedkarji in speeches. But they have really brought a social reform and they have given direction to this country for decades in India. We are very proud of our heritage. But the unfortunate part today in Maharashtra is that everything that has happened in my State, which I must say that I am ashamed of. We travel the entire country. The first question people ask me today is that +É®ä, iÉÖàcÉ®ä àÉcÉ®É−]Å àÉå BÉDªÉÉ cÉä ®cÉ cè? The reason being, what happened to Shri Sudeendra Kulkarniji? I may not 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 87 agree with all his ideologies. I have objection to the word ‘tolerate’. Why do we have to tolerate each other? Why can we not co-exist together where we hear each other, it does not matter if one is right or wrong, whether we believe it or not. Just because you and me disagree, it does not mean that you are an enemy and I have to tolerate you. I think I have objection to the basic idea of tolerate and intolerate. What happened to Shri Sudeendra Kulkarniji was not only something which ashamed me. That programme is appreciated and attended by all across party lines in Delhi but there is a problem in Mumbai. Nobody makes an intervention in it. We have a young Maharashtra Chief Minister. What is he really doing for it? That is my personal disappointment. (l2/1445/gm-sk) I agree that…… ( Interruptions ) I have no love lost for cricket. My grandfather played cricket and I am very proud of it and that is where my interest lasts. But anyway, at social level what happens in BCCI is totally condemnable. The other thing that happens is cancellation of music programme. People from all over the world come to perform. I think music and languages have no culture; they bind the entire world together. After the cancellation, the hon. Chief Minister intervened and said, ‘I will give you protection.’ If he had that opportunity, why did he not go ahead and attend the show to prove a point that, ‘yes, in my State, I will not let this happen.’ He gives very mixed signal. So, the whole point is, this entire mandate that he has got … ( Interruptions ) I tell you one thing about power. When we are ordinary citizens, we can say whatever we want. But when we are elected representatives, we represent people and there is a certain decorum in Parliament when we come here, especially when we are debating intolerance, I think especially people who are in power … ( Interruptions ) Sir, this is where my objection is. Whoever heads the country and leads the country, is the father figure of the country and he is like the head of the family. When one is head of family, there are three ways of looking at it. I look at it when I look at my children. If my children do something wrong, if I participate =ºÉ BÉßEÉÊiÉ àÉå ºÉc£ÉÉMÉ BÉE® ®cÉÒ cÚÆ* +ÉMÉ® ºÉc£ÉÉMÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 88 xÉcÉÓ BÉE® ®cÉÒ cÚÆ, BÉÖEU ¤ÉÉäãÉÚÆ xÉcÉÓ iÉÉä =ºÉä BÉEciÉä cé, +ÉxÉÖàÉÉänxÉ BÉE® ®cÉÒ cÚÆ* +ÉMÉ® àÉé àÉÉèxÉ ®cÚÆ iÉÉä £ÉÉÒ +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉÉäãÉåMÉä, MÉãÉiÉÉÒ iÉÖàcÉ®ÉÒ cè, iÉÖàÉ àÉÉÆ cÉä, iÉÖàÉxÉä BÉÖEU BÉDªÉÉå xÉcÉÓ BÉEcÉ? This is my objection to the Government. The hon. Home Minister is very patiently listening here. Why can all his Members not listen? This is the problem with this party. … ( Interruptions ) This is the crux of the problem. Their senior leadership is entirely divided. That gives me pain. … ( Interruptions ) I appreciate what Shri Kiran Rijiju said. I was listening very patiently yesterday to what Meenakshi Lekhi said. She is a good friend of mine. I appreciate that she has really studied a lot and come here. This entire discussion is not whether beef is banned or who banned it or not. That is not the question. Even if it is banned and whoever banned it, we have objections. We may have differences on it. I appreciate that Shri Kiran Rijiju got up and clarified that he has no objection; each one should eat whatever one likes and live in whichever State one lives in. I represent Maharashtra. In Maharashtra it is banned, but in Goa it is not banned. So, Maharashtrians can go to Goa and eat it, which is also fine with us. But what really happens in this banning is that when they all make such progressive statements- Arunji makes progressive statement- there are people in the party who say, this is what it is. +ÉÉ{É BÉßEÉÊiÉ àÉå £ÉÉMÉ àÉå xÉcÉÓ ãÉäiÉä ¶ÉɪÉn +ÉxÉÖàÉÉänxÉ £ÉÉÒ xÉcÉÓ BÉE®iÉä, ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ VÉ¤É àÉÉèxÉ ®JÉiÉä cé, then it gives us that it is a game going on here. There is an English saying; there is a good cop and a bad cop. So, some play good cop and some play bad cop. So, what is really the clean agenda of this Government? I think this is the time you really need to rise to the occasion and tell the nation that this is an opportunity that you have to clean up everything. … (Interruptions ) This is an opportunity for them because they keep talking about Smart Cities. We are happy if you are making all our cities smart. We are very happy if you are making India digital. But do the issues like beef ban and ghar wapasi really come in Digital India and modern India that you keep dreaming of? You take us on this beautiful dream; you took this whole nation on the dream. I 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 89 think the time has come when you put your heart to where your mouth is and really deliver the results that you are committed to. I think you really need to introspect because it is not about just returning. This is not the first time that literary people are returning awards. (m2/1450/rsg-asa) If in one go so many awards are coming back, at least rethink what it is. What Shri Jaidev Galla said in his speech is partially right and partially wrong. He said in his speech that if there is a Government in the State and a Government in the Centre, how is the Government in the Centre responsible for law and order? If the same Government is in the Centre – of BJP or anybody – and also in the State of Maharashtra which is also BJP, who do I turn to? When I want to look for my rights and all these wrong things are happening in my State, who do I turn to? Both are of the same party. When you say, it is only a State subject, it is not only a State subject; when they come back to the Centre for help for everything, why are you not addressing this issue especially when their own colleagues are constantly talking about it? So, that is the answer I am looking for. … ( Interruptions ) Shri Rajnath Singh, I am looking for help from you. You said, ‘Give me solutions’. My solution is, ‘Please tell your Members of Parliament and your respected Ministers to think before they talk.’ That is the only solution. If they stop talking, we would not need this debate. … ( Interruptions ) It is not only about the society. ´Éc BÉEcÉÆ VÉÉAMÉÉ ? nä¶É UÉä½BÉE® ´Éc ¤ÉäSÉÉ®É BÉEcÉÆ VÉÉAMÉÉ ? He really works hard for two square meals and put his children through education for a better life. There are these two film actors whose contribution to ‘make in India’ is very good. So, let us not run down Shah Rukh Khan and Aamir Khan. They have contributed substantially globally for India. Why does it have to be somebody glamorous to make such news? Even if it is a common person, I think we owe it to those people. If they are feeling insecure, it is your duty because you are in a position of power and it is your job to do it. So, I take this opportunity to just remind them. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 90 Another thing which is constantly coming up in various speeches is the death of various people. It is very important. Whether it is Shri Dhabolkar, Shri Pansare or Shri Kalburgi, they are all very liberal three sons of this soil. They were definitely attacked by some format which is of intolerance. Mostly what happens is, there is a group called the Sanatan Sanstha in Maharashtra which endlessly talks. Shri Ashok Chavan has been Chief Minister of Maharashtra. He knows how much trouble this ideology costs. They all worked on it. It went even to the Central Government. So, I urge Shri Rajnath Singh to find out what is in the file on Sanatan Sanstha. They keep threatening noble and modern people in Maharashtra. They write letters to them. Unfortunately no action so far has been taken. My only urge is that two wrongs do not make a right. … ( Interruptions ) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI KIREN RIJIJU): You are asking the Home Minister to clarify on the Sanatan Sanstha. The file which we have gone through clearly states that the then Home Minister Shri Chidambaram had categorically stated in the file that there is no reason to ban that Sanstha. So, this is the decision of the then Home Minister. You cannot throw the ball in our court. … ( Interruptions ) SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (BARAMATI): You are the Government now. … (Interruptions ) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI KIREN RIJIJU): They have filed an affidavit in the court also. HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order please. … ( Interruptions ) SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (BARAMATI): This means, everything we did was right and they will follow the same rules. Thank you, Shri Rijiju. This means, you are reassuring that everything that our Home Minister did was right. Thanks for the compliments! So, just follow the same track. These are the issues. It is not an issue whether they were in Government or we were in Government. When something goes wrong, it takes a lot of conviction 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 91 and courage to say that even if I was in the helm of affairs what happened was wrong. We admitted it. When Shri Dhabolkar was shot, our Government took the ownership and said it was wrong and we will do everything that we can. We even reached out to the Home Ministry at the Centre and asked them to help us to find out who these killers were. I take this opportunity to ask you to please look into what happened to Shri Pansare and Shri Kalburgi because these are really important sons of the soil who we have lost for intolerance. I am not saying whether they are associated with you or us or anybody else. These are very serious issues. Even about the awards, so much has been said. When the Gujarat riots happened, Shri Vajpayee was at the helm of affairs here. Nothing was returned there because people were sure and confident that the man at the helm of affairs at the Centre was a liberal man. That is what India is looking for. … ( Interruptions ) I agree, you will have a greener India and a cleaner India but if it is not safe for me as a woman, we are not looking for that. I am speaking here as a woman. Whether for temple entry or some puja , some new trend has started. It was probably there but it was not boiling. So, do not stir the pot that does not need to be. (n2/1455/rk-ind) Let me tell you one thing that we are looking for a model. You all keep saying: ‘Sabka Sath Sabka Vikas ’. Even we women want to be in that ‘ Sath ’. These are great slogans.… ( Interruptions ) Haryana has just done this. I think, Sir, the time has come to rise to the occasion. Let us not get into petty politics. We have very many other issues. What my earlier speaker has said is true. There are mal-nutritional challenges, education challenges and health-care challenges. I would urge the hon. Rajnath Singh ji and make just one request, to make sure that his Ministers do not talk out of context and hurt anybody’s emotion. That is not what they are elected for. They took oath on the Constitution. If you are having these debates on Constitution, at least read it and follow it. That is all our suggestion. Thank you, Sir. 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Tamil language was introduced as second language in Haryana instead of Punjabi language because 25% people in Haryana speak Punjabi while not a single person speaks Tamil language. How did Congress interfere in Sikh affairs? Jathedar Santokh Singh was advised by the then Prime Minster Shrimati Indira Gandhi not to go Siri Akal Takhat Sahib. She said we can make arrangement in Chandni Chowk at Delhi. A slogan was given in 1984 “Betti hai sardar ki, desh ke Gaddar ki ”. ( ends) 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 106 *KUMARI SUSHMITA DEV (SILCHAR): 26 and 27 November, 2015 began on a historical debate on our commitment to the Constitution. What would have been historic to commemorate Dr. Ambedkar turned into a debate over the interpretation of the word SECULAR. Hon’ble Home Minister said that it is the 42 nd amendment that introduced the words SECULAR and SOCIALIST. He forget that these words stood the text of time in various judgements of the Supreme Court since 1973 in the case of Keshavananda, Minerva Mills and Bommai Case. More significantly in 1977, the Janata Government brought the 44 th Amendment but left the word SECULAR and SOCIALIST intact. Therefore, I am compelled to question the intentions of this Government Baba Saheb believed that SECULAR and SOCIALIST was entrenched in our society. Historically, the speech of the Home Minister on 26 th November, 2015 will be read alongwith the debate on intolerance. No one can dispute that India is a tolerant country. In an otherwise volatile region, India stands out as the largest secular democracy. Today, it is due to the tolerant nature of our nation that growing intolerance is being meted by non-violent protest. I find it ironical that this Government wants to take the credit for all statistics of low communal violence but wants to pass on the discredit for all communal violence on State Governments, as a state subject. Hon’ble Prime Minister says ‘India is first’ and the Government follows only one book – The Constitution. I take respite when I heard that a Government that got mandate promising higher growth rate employment and prosperity but IS THE IDEA OF INDIA GHAT WAPASI IS THE IDEA OF INDIA LOVE JIHAT IS THE IDEA OF INDIA TELLING ME WHAT TO WEAR IS THE IDEA OF INDIA TELLING ME WHAT TO EAT 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 107 IS THE IDEA OF INDIA ABOUT TELLING ME TO LEAVE IF I DON’T SUPPORT THE PARTY IN POWER To my mind, the idea of India is changing every day every moment, but lets change it for the better, progressive India rather than India that is regressive and oppressive. That example must be set by the government of the day, but all we have seen are divisive statements from Ministers of the Government and its Members. I hope Prime Minister, Sir will walk on the talk about his idea of India, and realize that his silence on these matters speak volumes. Thank you. 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BADARUDDOZA KHAN (MURSHIDABAD): Hon’ble Speaker Sir, With your kind permission I would like to submit my written speech in the House. Sir, Now it is a matter of serious concern that intolerance is growing in India faster than ever before. For example, I can say killing of Dabolkar, Panasare and Kalburgi the eminent rationalist of our country. Killing of Akhlaqe at Dadri stirred the whole country. Reacting on these facts some eminent personalities like Uday Prakash, Nayantara Sehgal, Ashok Vajpayee, Sara Joseph and 37 others who are honoured by Sahitya Academy and other similar organization returned their awards. Never in independent India, so many writers, essayist, scientists come together to protest against Government and its silence. Not only that some Ministers statement in media became dangerous. Hon’ble Minister Mahesh Sharma told “Dadri Killing is an accident”. Hon’ble Finance Minister Arun Jaitley remarked in the facebook that protest of writers were “a case of manufactured paper rebellion”. Our Prime Minister remained silent for a long time and finally he advised people to follow the statement of hon’ble President Shri Pranab Mukherjee but he himself uttered not a single word against such killings and intolerance. Some other MPs of Government side also remarked very badly. Here is the origin of intolerance. Actually, in some issues like price rise, black money, employment, Government did nothing. They are busy to serve the corporate. So they want to attract the eyes of public towards some other sector like Hindutva and creating intolerance purposefully. Actually Hindus and Muslims of India are not intolerant. They never want to attack each other. They are the victim of some political parties like B.J.P. and Shiv Sena. Some political parties want to polarize people in the name of reliegion. But the State has no religion. But the State has no religion. Here is the crisis. Religion is not a problem but when it is used by the political parties for their own benefit then it becomes dangerous. Now the time came all the Parliamentarians 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 114 from both sides should condemn intolerance unitedly. Separate religious activities from Government administration and stop intolerance remarks inside and outside the Parliament. With this, I conclude. 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I stand here today to take part in this debate on the, so-called, rising intolerance in India. I would like to question this. They say that intolerance is rising. In comparison to what and when is it rising? It is because, whenever you say something, you say that intolerance is rising, you are expected to tell us in reference to what it is rising. When were we more tolerant than we are now? Do we have a reference point in recent history? Incidents like what happened to Akhlaq in Dadri – and the rationalists elsewhere are regrettable – should not happen in any civilized society. But stray incidents have been happening all over India for many many years. Strangely, our wonderful intellectuals have been returning their awards; they are the people whom we respect very deeply. I want to ask them, where was their conscience all these years when so many things that should have shaken their conscience happened? How come they did not wake up to anything then? They now feel it is an unsafe place to live. I have a few questions to ask them. Where were they when the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits took place? According to a report publicized by the Jammu and Kashmir Police, 209 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by militants since 1989 and about 109 were slaughtered in the year 1990 only. More surprisingly, only 24 cases have been filed in 25 years with more than 110 cases untraced. My friend from the TDP today said that you never find Indian refugees anywhere, and I am proud to agree with him. But, sadly, within our own country, we find the Hindu minority of Jammu and Kashmir refugees in their own country. But, none of the intellectuals spoke up then. Maybe, they were not motivated enough; maybe it is too small a vote bank to talk about. Let us take the case of the Sikhs who were massacred. Believe me, it was not a riot; it was a massacre in a brutal show of power back in 1984. My friend Shri Mohammad Salim was very dramatically saying yesterday, ‘ {ÉÆVÉÉ¤É àÉå +ÉÉMÉ ãÉMÉÉÒ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 118 cÖ<Ç cè* ’ àÉÉäcààÉn ºÉãÉÉÒàÉ ºÉÉc¤É, +ÉÉ{É iÉ¤É BÉEcÉÆ lÉä, VÉ¤É {ÉÆVÉÉ¤É àÉå +ɺÉãÉ àÉå +ÉÉMÉ ãÉMÉÉÒ cÖ<Ç lÉÉÒ, 1980 BÉEä n¶ÉBÉE àÉå VÉ¤É +ÉÉMÉ ãÉMÉÉÒ cÖ<Ç lÉÉÒ*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) (x2/1540/rp-cp) Madam, Bhindranwale was created by the Congress Party. When things went out of hand, he went into the Golden Temple.… ( Interruptions ) The then Prime Minister, who belonged to the Congress Party, took the Army and the tanks into the most sacred sanctum sanctorum of the Sikhs, the Golden Temple. … (Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ¤Éè~ VÉÉ HON. SPEAKER: She has not taken anybody’s name. Please sit down. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : =xcÉåxÉä ÉÊBÉEºÉÉÒ BÉEÉ xÉÉàÉ xÉcÉÓ ÉÊãɪÉÉ cè* ¤Éè~ VÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 119 than the sterilizations carried out by Hitler on the Jews back in Nazi Germany. Statistics reveal that there were 11,04,426 vasectomies and 4.6 million tubectomies in India during Emergency. … ( Interruptions ) Can this be termed as a tolerant practice of a very democratic country? Any one who voiced his protest, whether they were Opposition Leaders or members of the Press or members of the civil society or intellectuals, were either jailed or were muzzled? We all know as to how the Press was muzzled. It is a matter of history. … ( Interruptions ) Then the point to understand is that how have these people suddenly emerged out of nowhere started raising the voice against what they think is the rising intolerance in the country.… ( Interruptions ) We need to understand the motive behind these protests and the fabricated nature of the unrest that has taken over the country. We must stop and pause to ask as to why this outrage has taken place. … (Interruptions ) How has the conscience of these people suddenly awakened? … (Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. … ( Interruptions )… (Not recorded) HON. SPEAKER: Mohd. Salim ji, please sit down. … ( Interruptions ) SHRIMATI KIRRON KHER (CHANDIGARH): Salim saheb, your friend Mrs. Supriya Sule just told us. BÉEÉ<ÆbãÉÉÒ lÉÉä½ÉÒ ¶ÉÉÆÉÊiÉ ºÉä, ºÉcxɶÉÉÒãÉiÉÉ ºÉä, ]ÉìãÉ®åºÉ ºÉä càÉÉ®ÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ ºÉÖÉÊxÉA* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) lÉÉä½ÉÒ ºÉÉÒ ]ÉìãÉ®åºÉ ÉÊnJÉÉ nÉÒÉÊVÉA* càÉxÉä +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ¤ÉcÖiÉ iÉÆVÉ ºÉÖxÉä cé* càÉxÉä +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ ¤ÉcÖiÉ ¤ÉÉiÉå ºÉÖxÉÉÒ cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) FÉàÉÉ BÉEÉÒÉÊVÉA, +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä ¤ÉÖ®É ãÉMÉiÉÉ cè* càÉå £ÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉEcxÉä BÉEÉ cBÉE cè* … (Interruptions ) The thing is that there is a paradigm shift in the Indian politics. There is a polar shift in the social media; in the way people perceive India today; and that is what is bothering the parties that went into the hustings every time promising a lot. Unfortunately, they could not deliver on governance. Every time they fell back on secularism. They try to make priorities that try to do something for the people where governance is concerned. It is because that is the easiest thing 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 120 to say. How do you prove it and how do you disapprove it? +ÉÉ{É +ÉÉÆBÉE½ä nåMÉä, càÉ +ÉÉÆBÉE½ä nåMÉä* {É®ºÉä{¶ÉxÉ AäºÉÉ ¤ÉxÉÉ nÉÒÉÊVÉA ÉÊVɺɺÉä ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä ãÉMÉä ÉÊBÉE cÉÆ, ¤ÉÉìbÉÒ ¤ÉcÖiÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 121 What happens is that people get emotionally charged and they say certain things. A lot of people in the Opposition benches made extremely sexist remarks against women. Like my friend, Shrimati Meenakashi Lekhi has said earlier, women, I think, are the biggest minorities in this country. The S.P. Chief has said in the past about the Nirbhaya case. =xcÉåxÉä ÉÊxÉ£ÉǪÉÉ ®ä{É BÉEäºÉ BÉEä ºÉƤÉÆvÉ àÉå BÉEcÉ lÉÉ ÉÊBÉE, “SÉÉ® ãÉÉäMÉ BÉEèºÉä ABÉE ãɽBÉEÉÒ BÉEÉ ®ä{É BÉE® ºÉBÉEiÉä cé? ” The JD (U) President has said in the past – “ ãɽÉÊBÉEªÉÉå BÉEÉä Uä½xÉä BÉEä ÉÊãÉA iÉÉä càÉ ãÉÉäMÉ xÉÖBÉDBÉEb {É® JÉ½ä ®ciÉä lÉä* ” You know that these are the things that we have seen in the Lok Sabha. Many people have made these remarks. Mr. Mukherjee of the Congress Party has called women ‘painted and dented women’. … ( Interruptions ) Madam, I think, both sides – the Treasury benches and the Opposition benches –have an equal responsibility that we do not say anything which is harmful to the fabric of this country and we do not say anything that is regressive. Even I remember that the then Coal Minister, Shri Jaiswal also said something about women – VÉ¤É ¤ÉÉÒ¤ÉÉÒ ¤ÉÖfÃÉÒ cÉä VÉÉiÉÉÒ cè, etc. It is all intolerance. Madam, we should be ready to hear all voices. If that side has a point of view, if the Left leaning intellectuals have been patronised by the Congress for many years, have a right to their voice, so do other people who digress and disagree with you. BÉßE{ɪÉÉ +ÉÉ{É 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 122 not intolerance of the highest type? In Delhi, people were getting killed. In Assam, people were getting killed. Where were these people who are talking about so much about intolerance now at that time? ºÉ]æxÉãÉÉÒ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 123 Madam, statements of irresponsibility from Azamgarh to Azam Khan need to be owned by the SP Government in UP… ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats. … ( Interruptions ) SHRIMATI KIRRON KHER (CHANDIGARH): Madam, the other day, a young man called Mr. Sampath, who had started a wonderful Literary Festival in Bangaluru, had to resign. Why? It was because of the intolerance of the intellectuals, who had resigned against intolerance. It is a wonderful festival. But he did not return his Sahitya Akademi Award. So, these writers told him: “We are boycotting your festival because you have not returned the Sahitya Akademi Ward.” Sampath said: “I do not want to. It has been given to me by a jury, by my pears; I do not want to return it. I respect it.” Then, there was a whisper campaign to all the other participants. There were phone calls saying: “ iÉÖàÉ c] VÉÉ+ÉÉä, iÉÖàÉ àÉiÉ VÉÉ+ÉÉä* You stop going there.”… ( Interruptions ) This is what happened; and that man resigned. That means, his voice is going to be drowned out by you people because actually you are the intolerant ones. You cannot tolerate anybody else here for so long who has been working for you… ( Interruptions ) Madam, 65 years this country has tolerated misrule, corruption, nothing happening on the ground. Every time we have gone into the election, we hear ‘MÉ®ÉÒ¤ÉÉÒ c]É+ÉÉä, ÉʤÉVÉãÉÉÒ, ºÉ½BÉE, {ÉÉxÉÉÒ, ®Éä]ÉÒ, BÉE{É½É ’, ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ ÉʤÉcÉ® àÉå +ÉÉVÉ iÉBÉE VÉÉä VÉÉiÉÉ cè, =ºÉä nÖ¤ÉÉ®É ªÉcÉÒ ãÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 124 use them as vote banks, iÉÉÉÊBÉE MÉ®ÉÒ¤É +ÉÉnàÉÉÒ +ÉÉÉÊJÉ®ÉÒ UÉä® {É® JÉ½É cÖ+ÉÉ, cÉlÉ AäºÉä cÉä, BÉE£ÉÉÒ =ºÉBÉEÉ cÉlÉ AäºÉä xÉ cÉä* ÉÊnàÉÉMÉ ºÉä ºÉÉäSÉ xÉ {ÉÉA, +É{ÉxÉä ÉÊãÉA ºÉÉäSÉBÉE® ´ÉÉä] bÉãÉ xÉ {ÉÉA, ªÉc <ºÉ nä¶É BÉEÉ nÖJÉ cè* àÉä®ÉÒ |ÉEéb ºÉÖÉÊ|ɪÉÉ ºÉÖãÉä VÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉäãÉ ®cÉÒ lÉÉÓ ÉÊBÉE àÉÖà¤É<Ç àÉå ¤É½ÉÒ PÉ]xÉÉAÆ cÉäiÉÉÒ cé* àÉèbàÉ, PÉ]xÉÉAÆ cÉäiÉÉÒ cé, +ÉÉVÉ ºÉä xÉcÉÓ cÉäiÉÉÓ, ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉÉãÉÉå ºÉä cÉäiÉÉÒ cé* (a3/1555/nk-smn) {ÉcãÉä £ÉÉÒ {ÉÉÉÊBÉEºiÉÉxÉ ºÉä É˺ÉMɺÉÇ +ÉÉiÉä lÉä =xcå BÉE<Ç n{ÉEÉ MÉÉxÉä xÉcÉÓ ÉÊnªÉÉ MɪÉÉ, ABÉE-nÉä {ÉÉìÉÊãÉÉÊ]BÉEãÉ {ÉÉ]ÉÔVÉ cé ÉÊVÉxcÉåxÉä <ºÉ {É® +ÉÉì¤VÉäBÉD¶ÉxÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) I want to say something else. Madam, I also want to tell my friend. àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉ £ÉÉ−ÉhÉ cÉä MɪÉÉ xÉ? ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) gÉÉÒàÉiÉÉÒ ÉÊBÉE®hÉ JÉä® (SÉÆbÉÒMÉfÃ) : àÉä®ä cºÉ¤Éåb +ÉxÉÖ{ÉàÉ JÉä® xÉä +ÉxxÉÉ cVÉÉ®ä àÉÚ´ÉàÉå] BÉEÉä ¤ÉcÖiÉ ¤ÉèBÉE ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ lÉÉ, ¤ÉcÖiÉ vÉ®xÉÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ, ¤ÉcÖiÉ BÉÖEU ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ lÉÉ* àÉÖƤÉ<Ç àÉå càÉÉ®ä PÉ® {É® AxɺÉÉÒ{ÉÉÒ BÉEä BÉEÉìb®É å xÉä {ÉlÉ®É´É ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ, ¤ÉcÖiÉ BÉÖEU {ÉEåBÉEÉ, MÉÉÉÊãɪÉÉÆ nÉÓ, <ºÉºÉä ÉÊnãÉ ncãÉ MɪÉÉ, {ÉÖÉÊãÉºÉ +ÉÉ<Ç this is a matter of record. +ÉÉ{É <ºÉä {ÉiÉÉ BÉE®É ãÉÉÒÉÊVÉA, AäºÉÉ xÉcÉÓ cè ÉÊBÉE ABÉE cÉÒ {ÉÉ]ÉÔ BÉE®iÉÉÒ cè, ªÉä ºÉ¤É {ÉÉ]ÉÔVÉ àÉå cÉäiÉÉ cè, |ÉEåVÉÉÒ AÉÊãÉàÉå] ºÉ¤É VÉMÉc cÉäiÉä cé +ÉÉ{É BÉEciÉä cè ÉË|ÉEVÉ <ÉÊãÉàÉå] ºÉ¤É VÉMÉc cÉäiÉä cè, àÉé BÉEciÉÉÒ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE VÉÉä £ÉÉÒ AäºÉÉ BÉE®iÉÉ cè ´Éc |ÉEåVÉÉÒ <ÉÊãÉàÉå] cÉÒ cÉä ºÉBÉEiÉÉ cè ´Éc <ƺÉÉxÉ xÉcÉÓ cÉä ºÉBÉEiÉÉ ÉÊVɺÉä ãÉÉäMÉ SÉÖxÉ BÉE® £ÉäVÉiÉä cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) Madam, I have one more thing. I want to say this. Mr. Amitabh Bachchan was invited when the UPA Government was in power and there was the Goa Film Festival and Goa had a Congress Government. He was invited to be the Chief Guest at the Goa International Film Festival. =ºÉBÉEä +ÉMÉãÉä ÉÊnxÉ =xÉBÉEÉä àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEÉ {ÉEÉäxÉ +ÉÉ MɪÉÉ ÉÊBÉE +ÉÉ{É àÉiÉ +ÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 125 ÉÊ{ÉEãàÉ VÉMÉiÉ BÉEÉä <Æbº]ÅÉÒ BÉEÉ º]ä]ºÉ ÉÊ{ÉUãÉÉÒ AxÉbÉÒA MÉ´ÉxÉÇàÉå] xÉä ÉÊnªÉÉ, <ºÉºÉä {ÉcãÉä ãÉÉäMÉ ¤ãÉèBÉE àÉxÉÉÒ ºÉä ÉÊ{ÉEãàÉå ¤ÉxÉÉiÉä lÉä, The whole business is in white. So, I would as a film artist like to thank the NDA Government for giving us the dignity that we wanted from many years but we did not get. We were on tolerance, we were treated in such a way that we were banned for many things. There is nothing personal in all of this. … (Interruptions ) Really, there is nothing personal. I was hearing Rahul Ji’s very wonderful speech and interaction in the Carmel College in Bengaluru and he ended it with such wonderful lines. He said let us leave hate, let us have love, let us work together. My request to all of you is do not hate so much and do not provoke us to hate you so much. We do not hate you. càÉ ºÉ¤É ABÉE-nÚºÉ®ä ºÉä ÉÊàÉãÉiÉä cé, ºÉå]ÅãÉ cÉìãÉ àÉå ÉÊàÉãÉiÉä cé, ¤ÉÉBÉEÉÒ VÉMÉcÉå {É® £ÉÉÒ ÉÊàÉãÉiÉä cé, ABÉE-nںɮä BÉEä PÉ® VÉÉiÉä cé, ABÉE-nںɮä BÉEÉÒ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 126 …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: What do you want? JɽMÉä VÉÉÒ, +ÉÉ{É ¤Éè~ VÉÉ<ªÉä, BÉDªÉÉåÉÊBÉE ºÉÖãÉä VÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉäãÉ ®cÉÒ cÚÆ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : =xcÉåxÉä =xÉBÉEÉ xÉÉàÉ ÉÊãɪÉÉ lÉÉ* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : àÉÉÊcãÉÉAÆ +É{ÉxÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉEcxÉä àÉå ºÉFÉàÉ cé, <ºÉÉÊãÉA +ÉÉ{É ¤Éè~ VÉÉ<ªÉä* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (BARAMATI): What she said was that at one time these things, which are happening in Maharashtra today, are not happening for the first time. They have happened in the past, which is factual. She is right but she has to realize that the people who are doing it are the same. The only difference is that time they were just activists or hooligans. Now they are your partners. So, they are partners in crime. They are sharing power with you. So, you have to realize that they are sharing power with you. So, that is the reality. I am coming to the other allegation that you have made.… ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : c® AãÉÉÒMÉä¶ÉxÉ BÉEÉ VÉ´ÉÉ¤É xÉcÉÓ ÉÊnªÉÉ VÉÉ ºÉBÉEiÉÉ* SHRIMATI SUPRIYA SULE (BARAMATI): They are not our partners. They are your partners in crime. Shiv Sena has good relations but they are your partners in crime and not my partners in crime. àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : c® AãÉÉÒMÉä¶ÉxÉ {É® ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ-VÉ´ÉÉ¤É xÉcÉÓ cÉä ºÉBÉEiÉÉ, BÉDªÉÉåÉÊBÉE càÉå ®ÉiÉ iÉBÉE xÉcÉÓ ¤Éè~xÉÉ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: I am sorry. Now, we have to complete it. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 127 ¯gÉÉÒ ºÉÖàÉävÉÉxÉxn ºÉ®º´ÉiÉÉÒ (ºÉÉÒBÉE®) : àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé ÉÊxɪÉàÉ 193 BÉEä +ÉÆiÉMÉÇiÉ SÉSÉÉÇ "ºÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ" BÉEä ºÉÆn£ÉÇ àÉå +É{ÉxÉä ÉÊãÉÉÊJÉiÉ ÉÊ´ÉSÉÉ® nä ®cÉ cÚÆ * àÉéxÉä ºÉnxÉ àÉå ãÉMÉ£ÉMÉ ºÉ£ÉÉÒ ´ÉBÉDiÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ BÉEÉä ºÉÖxÉÉ cè * àÉä®É AäºÉÉ àÉÉxÉxÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE ºÉÆÉÊ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ÉÊxÉàÉÉÇiÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ xÉä ÉÊVÉºÉ £ÉÉ´ÉxÉÉ ºÉä +É{ÉxÉÉÒ +ÉÉÊ£ÉBªÉÉÎBÉDiÉ BÉEÉÒ lÉÉÒ ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉä ãÉÉäMÉ <ºÉä ºÉàÉZÉ xÉcÉÓ ºÉBÉEä cé * =nÉc®hÉÉlÉÇ vÉàÉÇ BÉEÉä cÉÒ ãÉÉäMÉ ºÉàÉZÉ xÉcÉÓ ºÉBÉEä * ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä vÉàÉÇ BÉEÉ ÉÊ®ãÉÉÒVÉxÉ +ÉlÉÇ BÉE® ÉÊnªÉÉ * vÉàÉÇ BÉEÉ +ÉlÉÇ lÉÉ ºÉiªÉ BÉEÉä vÉÉ®hÉ BÉE®xÉÉ * n¶ÉÇxÉ ¶ÉɺjÉ BÉEciÉÉ cè "ªÉiÉÉäbàªÉÖnªÉ ÉÊxÉgɪÉäºÉ ÉʺÉrÉÒ ºÉ vÉàÉÇ&" +ÉlÉÉÇiÉ vÉàÉÇ =ºÉä BÉEciÉä cé ÉÊVɺɺÉä +ÉÉiàÉÉ BÉEÉ =ilÉÉxÉ cÉä * àÉxÉÖ àÉcÉ®ÉVÉ vÉàÉÇ BÉEä ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ àÉå BÉEciÉä cé "vÉßÉÊiÉ, FÉàÉÉ, nªÉÉä, ºiÉäªÉàÉÂ, ¶ÉÉèSÉÆ, <ÉÎxpªÉÉÊxÉMÉßcàÉÂ, vÉÉÒÉÌ´ÉtÉÉ ºÉiªÉàÉ +ɵÉEÉävÉ n¶ÉBÉEàÉ vÉàÉÇ ãÉFÉhÉàÉÂ" * +ÉlÉÉÇiÉ vÉèªÉÇ, FÉàÉÉnÉxÉ <ÉÎxpªÉ ºÉƪÉàÉÂ, ºÉiªÉ, {ÉÉÊ´ÉjÉiÉÉ, ¤ÉÖÉÊr, ÉÊ´ÉtÉÉ, ºÉiªÉ |ɪÉÉä, µÉEÉävÉ xÉ BÉE®xÉÉ <ºÉä vÉàÉÇ BÉEciÉä cé * (<ÉÊiÉ) * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 128 ¯gÉÉÒ ¶É®n ÉÊjÉ{ÉÉ~ÉÒ (ºÉÆiÉ BÉE¤ÉÉÒ® xÉMÉ®) : àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ VÉÉÒ, BÉEÉÆOÉäºÉ A´ÉÆ BÉEàªÉÖÉÊxɺ] {ÉÉ]ÉÔ uÉ®É VÉÉä ºÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ A´ÉÆ +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ {É® SÉSÉÉÇ BÉEÉ |ɺiÉÉ´É ãÉɪÉÉ MɪÉÉ cè ´Éc |ɺiÉÉ´É (<ÉÊiÉ) * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 129 * DR. RATNA DE (NAG) (HOOGHLY): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 130 *DR. KIRIT SOMAIYA (MUMBAI NORTH EAST): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 131 * SHRI D.K. SURESH (BANGALORE RURAL): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 132 *SHRI B.S. YEDIYURAPPA (SHIMOGA): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 133 * ADV. JOICE GEORGE (IDUKKI): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 134 *SHRIMATI KOTHAPALLI GEETHA (ARAKU): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 135 1601 ¤ÉVÉä bÉì. ¶ÉÉ榃 lÉ°ô® (ÉÊiÉâó´ÉxÉxiÉ{ÉÖ®àÉ) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉÖZÉä {ÉiÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE ºÉàÉªÉ BÉEàÉ cè, <ºÉÉÊãÉA VÉÉä ¤ÉÉiÉå cÉä SÉÖBÉEÉÒ cé, =ºÉä àÉé nÉä¤ÉÉ®É xÉcÉÓ nÉäc®ÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ* ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉÉ®ÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉå +ÉÉè® ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉÉ®ä =nÉc®hÉ <ºÉ ºÉnxÉ àÉå ®JÉä VÉÉ SÉÖBÉEä cé, ÉÊVÉxcå àÉé £ÉÉÒ +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ºÉÉàÉxÉä ®JÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ lÉÉ* <ºÉBÉEä ¤ÉVÉÉªÉ àÉé MÉßc àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEä ÉÊxÉ´ÉänxÉ BÉEÉ àÉÉxÉ ®JÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ +ÉÉè® ºÉ®BÉEÉ® BÉEÉä ªÉc ºÉàɺªÉÉ ºÉÖãÉZÉÉxÉä BÉEä ÉÊãÉA BÉÖEU =ÉÊSÉiÉ ºÉÖZÉÉ´É näxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ* My principal suggestion is that the Government should start taking its own slogans seriously and put India first. India’s great strength and the source of much of our soft power that we talk about so much and the respect in which we are held in the world is our legacy of civilizational pluralism coupled with our robust democracy. The Indian adventure is that of human beings of different religions, languages, ethnicities, beliefs, working together dreaming the same dreams. Today I am proud to represent Thiruvananthapuram here where in one location, Palayam Square, you can see the Palayam Mosque, diagonally opposite to this is St. Joseph Cathedral and between them is one of the oldest Ganpati temples in the State and worshippers throng all three, joyfully celebrating each others’ special days. Our democracy in the last 70 years has been built on the idea that a nation may celebrate differences of caste, creed, colour, conviction, cuisines, customs and costumes and still rally around the consensus and that consensus is on the simple democratic idea that you do not need to agree all the time so long as you will agree on the ground rules of how you will disagree. One of those basic ground rules is respect for difference, not just respect but as Swami Vivekananda so memorably put it, ‘acceptance of difference’. This makes diversity a source of our strength in India and not a weakness and it is the responsibility of a Government to uphold our idea of difference and to reject any attempt to dilute it. I plead with the Government to uphold this idea of India. Today our Rashtrapati Ji reminded us that º´ÉSU £ÉÉ®iÉ ÉÊnàÉÉMÉ àÉå ¶ÉÖ°ô cÉäiÉÉ cè* MÉÆnMÉÉÒ BÉÖEU ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEä àÉxÉ ºÉä c]ÉxÉÉÒ {ɽiÉÉÒ cè* Today we are ashamed when foreign newspapers 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 136 report about the mounting intolerance in our country. Madam Speaker, the impression has already gained ground abroad that India is governed by reactionary forces determined to put minorities, rationalists and liberals in their place. This is posing calculable damage to our world image. The Kerala House beef inspection occurred on the very day that 50 African Heads of State—every single of them a beef eater—were in this city, in Delhi. What would they have thought of the intolerance of us, we as a host country? It is affecting our national security also. A Bangladeshi friend of mine was visiting Delhi that week and he told me that Islamic fundamentalists in his country were having a field day attacking India as a place where it is safer to be a cow than a Muslim. This has wide implication for the Government’s own agenda. We cannot simultaneously sell ourselves to the world. … ( Interruptions ) We cannot sell ourselves to the world as a land of pluralism, tolerance and Gandhianism while encouraging intolerance, communal hatred and minority insecurity within the country. The Government must know you cannot promote ‘Make in India’ abroad while condoning ‘Hate in India’ at home. 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SUGATA BOSE (JADAVPUR): Madam, Speaker, the word intolerance is a mere euphemism for a wave of unreason, injustice and inhumanity that has been unleashed across our country during the last few months. My friend, Mr. Venugopal has already given a comprehensive catalogue of the incidents that have taken place. So, I will not repeat that catalogue. In order to confront the challenges that face our country today, a powerful message needs to go out from this Lok Sabha, the House of the People that reason (aql) will be our only torch, justice (insaf) our only worship and humanity (insaniyat) our only religion. As the minorities face the cold winds of exclusion from the powers that be today, it is pertinent to recall what Dr. Ambedkar said on the question of minority protection while introducing the draft Constitution on November 4 th , 1948. I will quote only one of the most important sentences from that historic speech: ‘It is for the majority to realize its duty not to discriminate against minorities.’ Whatever might be Rajnath Singh ji’s reservation about the term ‘secularism’, its use or misuse, will he as the Home Minister at least perform this duty enjoined on us by the architect of our Constitution. If we wish to truly honour the lead author of our Constitution on his 125 th Birth Anniversary, let us pledge today collectively never to make our minorities feel insure in this great land of ours. Had the hon. Speaker allowed this humble historian to say a few words in the discussion on the Constitution, I would have just said something about the concept of constitutional morality that our Home Minister referred to towards the ends of his speech. Dr. Ambedkar invoked the concept of constitutional morality described by Grote, the Historian of Greece as: ‘A paramount reverence for the forms of the Constitution, enforcing obedience to authority acting under and within these forms yet combined with the habit of open speech and unrestrained censure of those very authorities as to all their public acts’. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 145 (d3/1610/san-asa) Constitutional morality, Dr. Ambedkar told us, is not a natural sentiment. It has to be cultivated and the people have to learn it. He followed up this contention with a debatable proposition. He said : “Democracy in India is only a top-dressing on an Indian soil, which is essentially undemocratic.” In today’s climate, who knows, some would probably label him unpatriotic or anti-national for having said so. But if we are a mature democracy, we will ponder over his remark and embrace the value of constitutional morality as respect for forms and processes that enable us to negotiate and then rise above differences, differences which Grote described or characterised as ‘the bitterness of party contest’. This Lok Sabha needs to transcend the bitterness of party contest. In the course of the Constituent Assembly debates, Zairul-Hassan Lari pointed out that constitutional morality was a value that not just citizens but also the Government must learn. The spirit underlying the Constitution and not just the words must guide the Government. When will this Government begin to appreciate that it can learn much more from the criticism of its opponents than from the eulogy of its supporters? I urge this Government to listen to the voices of our most brilliant thinkers, writers, historians, scientists, artists and activists and not let loose their hounds in the social media on them whenever they express their concern or anguish. Do not be sarcastic about them by calling them our wonderful intellectuals. To be absolutely clear, we are not saying that India is intolerant. We are saying that followers, supporters and even some Members of this Government are spreading a virulent form of prejudice and bigotry. The refusal to unequivocally condemn and take exemplary action against the offenders on the part of the leader of this Government must be seen as out of sync with the concept and the value of constitutional morality. Our poet Kazi Nazrul Islam had sung Hindu na ora Muslim oi jigyashe kon jan, Kandari balo dubichhe manush santan mor Ma’r . The 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 146 duty of the captain of a ship is to treat his passengers in crisis equally as human- beings, as children of the mother. Intolerance is bad, Madam Speaker, but tolerance is not good enough. I agree with Shrimati Supriya Sule : Should we just be tolerating one another? No, that is not my idea of India. We have to aspire for something much higher. We must cultivate the value of cultural intimacy, saanskritik sannidhya , among our diverse communities. That was the foundation of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose’s political philosophy. He said to the Maharashtra Provincial Conference as early as 1928 “Democracy is by no means a Western institution; it is a human institution.” He wanted to see a federal republic of India after independence. He warned Indians not to become a queer mixture of political democrats and social conservatives. He spoke in unequivocal terms about building political democracy on the pedestal of a democratic society. He spoke about not just the depressed classes, the working classes but also the women of India. He regretted that different communities in India were too exclusive. ‘Fanaticism is the greatest thorn in the path of cultural intimacy,’ he told his audience, ‘and there is no better remedy for fanaticism than secular and scientific education.’ That was the first occasion Subhash Chandra Bose used the term ‘secular’. For him, secularism was not hostile to religion or religiously informed cultural differences, but he felt that it could help foster cultural intimacy, saanskritik sannidhya among India’s diverse religious communities. Madam Speaker, a few days ago, I saw a beautiful photograph of our Prime Minister paying homage to Netaji and the noble martyrs of the Indian National Army in Singapore. Our Chief Minister, Mamata Banerjee, had offered her tribute during her visit to Singapore last year. Who were these martyrs? They were Hindu, Muslim, Sikh and Christian soldiers who dined together before they went to war together, and their blood mingled in the battlefields around Imphal and Kohima so that India may be free. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 147 (e3/1615/ak-ind) The original martyrs' memorial had been blown up by Mountbatten’s forces. The Singapore Government, very generously, built a new memorial 50 years later in 1995. What was the name of the INA officer who had built the original martyrs’ memorial? His name was Cyril John Stracey. He was a wonderful Christian and an Anglo-Indian officer of the INA, and the motto of INA ‘ Itmad, Ittefaq, Kurbani ’ was emblazoned on it. On 16-17 January of 2016 we, in Kolkata, will be observing the 75 th Anniversary of Netaji’s ‘ Mahanishkraman ’, that is, his great escape from India. Sisir Kumar Bose drove him out from Kolkata, but who received him in Peshawar? His name was Mian Akbar Shah, a great freedom fighter of the North- West Frontier Province. Who was Netaji’s only Indian companion on the perilous submarine voyage from Europe to Asia that took 90 days? His name was Abid Hassan from the Hyderabad Deccan. Who was the commander of the First Division of the INA which fought in India’s North-East? His name was Muhammad Zaman Kiani. Who hoisted the Indian tri-colour in Moirang near Imphal in 1944? His name was Shaukat Malik. Who was Netaji’s only Indian companion on his final flight in 1945? His name was Habibur Rahman. What were the names of the three officers who were put on trial at the Red Fort 70 years ago? Their names were Prem Kumar Sahgal, Gurbaksh Singh Dhillon, and Shah Nawaz Khan. We have observed an Anniversary of the Constitution and the Birth Anniversary of Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. I think that we ought to be observing the 70 th Anniversary of the Red Fort trials that began on 5 th November 1945 and ended on 31 st December 1945, and these three men were sentenced to deportation for life, but the British could not implement that sentence. In those days, you will remember, Madam Speaker, … ( Interruptions ) PROF. SAUGATA ROY (DUM DUM): No, she was also not born. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 148 PROF. SUGATA BOSE (JADAVPUR): Or the older generation will certainly remember that there was a slogan : ÞãÉÉãÉÉÊBÉEãÉä ºÉä +ÉÉA +ÉÉ´ÉÉVÉ ºÉcMÉãÉ, ÉÊfããÉxÉ, ¶ÉÉcxÉ´ÉÉVÉ* Þ àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ÉÊcº]ÅÉÒ àÉå {ÉfÃiÉä iÉÉä cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) PROF. SUGATA BOSE (JADAVPUR): Mahatma Gandhi visited the INA prisoners in the Red Fort and he was told that in the INA they recognized no differences of creed or religion, but here the British are serving us Hindu tea and, Muslim tea separately. So, Mahatma Gandhi asked : “Why do you serve it?” and the reply came : “No, we do not. We mix Hindu tea and Muslim tea exactly half and half and then serve. The same with food”. We have to rekindle that spirit of the winter of 1945 in India today. Madam Speaker, our fight against intolerance is essentially a fight against unreason, injustice and inhumanity. In conclusion, let me make a fervent appeal concerning a sensitive issue that has led to a tragic loss of lives in recent months. We do, of course, have Article 48 as part of the many Directive Principles of the State on the subject of agriculture and animal husbandry urging steps for prohibiting the slaughter of cows. Yesterday, Shrimati Lekhi made a reference to this Directive Principle in the course of her fiery speech. But it cannot, under any circumstances, be used as a sordid pretext to take precious human life. Dr. Ambedkar would have been horrified to see this happen. In my maiden speech delivered in June 2014 I had mourned the death of Mohsin Sheikh, the computer engineer in Pune. This happened days after the new Government took power. Today, I mourn the death of Muhammad Akhlaque and others who have been victims in recent months of the poison of religious hatred. In the name of bygone generations that have welded the Indian people into a nation, I invoke the noble meaning of the word ‘ akhlaque ’. What does ‘ akhlaque ’ mean? It means ethics, and I urge those who hold the reins of power in our country today, especially, our Prime Minister and our Home Minister, Shri Rajnath Singh, to 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 149 uphold the fundamental right to life and liberty of all our citizens and abide by ‘akhlaque ’, the ethics of good governance that have informed the very best of Indian political thought and practice through the ages. Thank you, Madam Speaker. 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SPEAKER: The next speaker is Shri Radheshyam Biswas, who will get three minutes to speak. Now onwards, all the hon. Members will get only two or three minutes and I cannot help it. 1620 hours SHRI RADHESHYAM BISWAS (KARIMGANJ): Madam, let me start with the fact that we got freedom because of the sacrifices made by the people of this country belonging to all castes and communities. They fought against the dictatorship and the colonial rule imposed by the British Government. Our forefathers continued the fight for years until the country got Independence on the 15 th of August 1947. This was the time when they sat together and constituted a team led by Dr. B.R. Ambedkar to write a comprehensive Constitution for India, which provided equal rights and justice to all citizens of our country, which installed democracy and secularism in the country. Our Constitution gives us freedom of living, freedom of speech and freedom of choice in the personal life of every citizen of our country. Today India is the largest democratic country in the world where people of different faiths, castes, creeds and colours are living together. I feel honoured to state here that our forefathers were protectors of unity in diversity in our country. They believed that the beauty of India lies in the fact that people of different faiths, classes and levels live together here. They made efforts to build a country in which they had given a slogan, “ ÉÊcxnÚ-àÉÖÉκãÉàÉ-ÉʺÉJÉ-<ºÉÉ<Ç +ÉÉ{ÉºÉ àÉå ºÉ¤É £ÉÉ<Ç-£ÉÉ<Ç* ” I am sorry to say or it seems that we have failed in fulfilling the duties entrusted by our forefathers. Today a situation is arising in the country where people are living in fear and face intolerance in the name of religion and caste. This is an absolute threat to the spirit of unity in diversity. This is demolishing the dream set by Gandhi Ji for India and also demolishing the pillars of our Constitution compiled by Dr. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 154 Ambedkar. On seeing this situation that our country is passing through, the spirit of Dr. Ambedkar must be feeling hurt. Today some people, who are respected leaders of political parties as well as State leaders, and even some Governors, have started speaking in a communal language. They have given a slogan that Hindustan is only for the Hindus, and the Muslims are free to go to Pakistan. HON. SPEAKER: Your three minutes time is over, so please conclude now. SHRI RADHESHYAM BISWAS (KARIMGANJ): I will take only one minute more, Madam. This trend of growing communal hatred is a matter of great concern. The Dadri incident was the result of such a communal hatred. The ‘ Ghar Wapsi ” campaign also has been built on the premise that those who live in India follow the ‘Hindu’ faith and those who have converted to other faiths have strayed. The most surprising thing is that when some people protest against these rising incidents of intolerance, instead of listening to their voice and solving their problems, they are blamed to be agents of the Opposition parties, and even they are advised to leave the country and go to Pakistan. HON. SPEAKER: Your time is over. SHRI RADHESHYAM BISWAS (KARIMGANJ): I am concluding now, Madam. If some people speak against the frightful environment in the country, then, instead of understanding their pain, they are being labeled as anti-national, while forgetting their contribution for the country. Therefore, the Government needs to act promptly against those who are responsible for this. It cannot walk free by blaming the State Governments rather it has to monitor the situation. Thank you. (ends) 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 155 DR. BOORA NARSAIAH GOUD (BHONGIR): Tolerance is in the DNA and the blood of every Indian and Indian culture. Today, we are unfortunately discussing the “Topic of Intolerance” and I wish it should have been “Tolerant India”. How best we can strengthen it. “Isolated Incidents” are happening, but we political parties, media identified with one or other party lines are propagating it as if “Intolerance” is systematic in India. Before I speak, I remember a movie called Roti, Kapada, Makan where in people are throwing stones at a lady for committing a theft and hero ask only a person who never lied or did any wrong thing shall throw a stone. I ask political parties same way. We are in middle, not on left or right, treasury or opposition bench, and I come from a place where the concept of Ganga-Jamuna tehzeeb” culture meets called Telangana. Let me state few examples:- 1. What happened in Punjab- is it not due to political patronization? 2. What happened in Delhi riots on Sikhs is not due to political patronage? 3. What happened in Shah Bano Case? 4. What happened in Hyderabad, where communal riots were staged to change Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh by a political party leader? 5. What happened in Dadri, Pansekar, Kalburg, recent controversy on beef etc. need to be nipped in a bud? 6. Communal riots are always been due to one or other political parties, hidden political agenda. 7. Individual Incidents attract international attention like Kalburi, paneskar, malala, in Afganistan and Syrian toddler died on shores of sea. 8. Statements like Muslim who eat beef should care India but if Hindu eats …… where should he go? 9. What is important is not the size of incident. Its perception that matters. These individual incidents may tarnish image of Government of India. * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 156 10. Incidents happen, however vigilant we are, but perception of safety matters much more. It come only when minorities respond quickly and assure the people. Suspicion is biggest blot on democracy. As its said “Caesar’s wife is above suspicion”, the people shall not suspect the intention of the Government. India is unity in diversity. Upanishads laid foundation for secular India, much before we wrote Constitution. Our Culture, our nature, our DNA is much stronger than “Religious fanatics, political mechanism, foreign powers” and we will win over intolerant folks. In Constitution Article 25, 26, 29 – freedom to practice any religion. Edmund Burke- only thing necessary for the triumph of evils is for good men to do nothing. Albert Einstein- laws alone cannot secure freedom of Expression. In order that every one express their views without penalty than must be spirit of tolerance in entire population. As our Hon’ble Prime Minister said “best answer” is let us fight poverty. As tolerance, intolerance, economy, prosperity is inter-related as India voted exclusively for Modiji for development agenda. Modiji (For development) and Modiji (financial and economy) is inter-related, let us. Be intolerant towards poverty, corruption, religious intolerance. 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MOHAMMAD BASHEER (PONNANI): Madam, I am participating in this discussion with profound sorrows. We were holding our head high with proud that our country is the country of tolerance and the country which was liberated from the British Empire by Mahatma Gandhi through Ahimsa. Now this country would bow down its head out of shame and agony. Our Prime Minister unfortunately is not here at least to read the pulse of the nation. He is on his routine foreign trip. BBC reporters asked him in UK as to what was happening in India for intolerance. He replied: “Two or three instances might have taken place out of a country of 125 crore people. Anyhow, we will look into that seriously.” Perhaps for the Prime Minister, this may be a small thing. But as far as our nation is concerned, the whole nation is very much worried on this. Here, the Government is saying that it is the responsibility of the State. As far as this Government is concerned, this Government is a Government of escapism. Actually, all these things are happening. It is the by-product of the BJP’s political chemistry. All these instances are planned from the political laboratory of the BJP. They cannot wash their hands from these kinds of things. We all know that the BJP is having a political chemistry. What is that? If communal tensions are created, they can fish in troubled water. That is the reason behind all these things. I would like to say another important thing. Even the Government is becoming a facilitator to drain down the Government fund for political purposes. Country is going to know shortly as to what is happening on skill development and even on CSR. These funds are really misused for political purposes. … (Interruptions ) You may at least give me some time. HON. SPEAKER: You cannot speak on every subject. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 164 (h3/1630/bks/kmr) SHRI E.T. MOHAMMAD BASHEER (PONNANI): I am going to conclude, Madam. My friends were speaking about Dadri incident. I had been there. Government has come with many excuses but one thing is for sure. Even if you take bath in the holy river Ganga a thousand and one times, the stain of that sin cannot be cleared from your conscience. You have done that much of attack there. Nobody can forget the story. Similarly, freedom of expression. (ends) HON. SPEAKER: Okay. Sorry. That is all. 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VENUGOPAL (ALAPPUZHA): You are a Minister. … (Interruptions ) gÉÉÒ ÉÊBÉE®äxÉ ÉÊ®VÉÉÒVÉÚ : ÉÊ{ÉUãÉä 17 àÉcÉÒxÉä àÉå AäºÉÉÒ BÉEÉèxÉ ºÉÉÒ cÉãÉiÉ <ºÉ nä¶É àÉå {ÉènÉ cÖ<Ç cè, ÉÊVɺɺÉä +ÉÉ{É 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 170 gÉÉÒ ÉÊBÉE®äxÉ ÉÊ®VÉÉÒVÉÚ : àÉèbàÉ, 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 171 àÉèbàÉ, <ºÉ nJ´ÉÉǺiÉ BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ VÉèºÉä ºÉ¤ÉxÉä +É{ÉÉÒãÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ, I also want to make this fervent appeal to all the Opposition Members, please respect the mandate given by this great country. Let Shri Narendra Modi, let this Government, function and complete its tenure. If necessary, we will go back to the people but let the people of India decide who should govern, who should run the Government of this country. Let us not vitiate the atmosphere. Let us spread the message of love and compassion. Let us not denigrate the status of the nation. àÉèbàÉ, +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä <ºÉ SÉSÉÉÇ àÉå àÉÖZÉä ¤ÉÉäãÉxÉä BÉEÉ àÉÉèBÉEÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ, <ºÉBÉEä ÉÊãÉA àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä ¤ÉcÖiÉ ¤ÉcÖiÉ vÉxªÉ´ÉÉn näxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÄ* (<ÉÊiÉ) 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 172 ¯gÉÉÒàÉiÉÉÒ ®àÉÉ nä´ÉÉÒ (ÉʶɴÉc®) : * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 173 1647 hours SHRI ASADUDDIN OWAISI (HYDERABAD): At the outset, Madam, I condemn the killings of Akhlaque, Numan and Zahid. I term it as an attack on the Constitution and this was an act perpetrated by terrorists not by the fringe elements. Madam, let me start by this caveat by saying that I am the only intolerant in India in this House and the rest are paragon of virtue, beacon of free speech and upholders of justice. What we have seen over here is that we have two political power centers; one calls Muslims and Dalits as puppies and dogs and the other throws crumbs at us and tell us to wag the tail. My concern over here is why is it that after 68 years of Independence the Muslims cannot find or rent a house or flat in any metropolitan city. Is this tolerance you are talking about? Why is it Madam, that my drop out rate and Dalit drop out rate starts at the age of 11? Is this tolerance? Why is it that you open more police stations in Muslim gatehouse than schools? Is this tolerance? Why is it that Juhapura and Govandi in Mumbai have become dumping yards of the city medical waste, not schools of excellence? Why is it that there are out of 100 only three Muslim graduates? Is this tolerance? People say that we do not study. NSSO data of 2011 clearly says that only 11 per cent of the OBC Muslims having 10 th class qualification get employment and the others get 23 per cent. Why is it that after 23 years of Babri Masjd the accused have got the Padma Vibhushan but they have not been convicted? We have seen various Governments; Congress Government, UPA Government, United Front Government, NDA Government. Is this tolerance? Let me ask a political intolerant question to this august House. Why is it, Madam, that when I oppose the BJP, I am called an anti-nationalist, I am called a Jinnah in making? When I oppose the secular parties, I am called communal. Why is it that this country is saying that if you be with the secular party you are secular and if you oppose the BJP you become anti-national? How is it that these two political 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 174 parties have appropriated the right of nationalism and secularism? I condemn their right. I continue to be intolerant because that is my democratic right. I want to know how is it political intolerance when 10 years imprisonment is given in Haryana for cow slaughter, Congress supports it? But I am intolerant, I am a communal. How is it that Tripura Governor says on October 19 that free speech and tolerance can be celebrated if Muslims eat pork? Is this tolerance you are talking about? Madam, let me conclude by asking this very inconvenient, intolerant question to the Government and to the parties representing the august House, why is it that this is happening? Why have you taken my right to dissent? Why cannot I give a speech in Karnataka? Why cannot I give a speech in Uttar Pradesh? (m3/1650/rc/mkg) Why is it that 22 per cent of Muslims are in jail under trial? In West Bengal, the figure is 49 per cent; in Maharashtra – 29 per cent; and in Uttar Pradesh – 29 per cent. Is this tolerance? Madam, the Home Minister had asked for suggestions. My suggestion to the hon. Home Minister is that your pride was hurt when a wrong allegation was made. I commend you for showing your pride but you see that for 69 years I have been called a Pakistani. What about my pride? Would you rise up and protect my pride? Would you rise and protect my integrity? My suggestion to the hon. Minister is that you amend the NHRC Act. You give NHRC the power to inquire communal riots so that the responsibility can be fixed on the SP and DM. I would request you to form in your Internal Security Division a section which monitors Hindu fanatics. If you do not do that, you can see what has happened in Myanmar, in Sri Lanka, in Pakistan and in Bangladesh. We require stability. As the third step, you form an Equal Opportunities Commission. You give constitutional status to the MCM. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 175 You talk about ISIS and wahabism . Remember ISIS is an evil ideology. You cannot break us down into wahabism and Sufism. You have to take the whole Muslim Community. Right now the whole Islamic world is condemning ISIS. Remember one thing that ISIS cannot be defeated by bombs. ISIS can be defeated by cerebral debate. This is what needs to happen. Madam, I would conclude my speech by quoting a sher of Faiz: ‘iÉÖZÉBÉEÉä ÉÊBÉEiÉxÉÉå BÉEÉ ãÉcÚ SÉÉÉÊcA Aä +ÉWÉæ ´ÉiÉxÉ, VÉÉä iÉä®ä +ÉWÉæ ¤Éä®ÆMÉ BÉEÉä MÉÖãÉxÉÉ® BÉE®ä, ÉÊBÉEiÉxÉÉÒ +ÉÉcÉå ºÉä iÉä®É BÉEãÉäVÉÉ ~ÆbÉ cÉäMÉÉ, ÉÊBÉEiÉxÉä +ÉÉƺÉÖ+ÉÉäÆ ºÉä iÉä®ä ºÉc®É+ÉÉäÆ BÉEÉä MÉÖãÉVÉÉ® BÉE®å* ’ (ends) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉVÉ +ÉÉä´ÉäºÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEÉä àÉÉxÉxÉÉ {ɽäMÉÉ ÉÊBÉE ºÉàÉªÉ àÉå {ÉÚ®É BÉE® ÉÊnªÉÉ* gÉÉÒ ®ÉcÖãÉ MÉÉÆvÉÉÒ* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 176 1652 hours SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): Thank you Madam Speaker for allowing me to intervene here today. I listened to the Prime Minister a few days ago talk about our Constitution. He spoke over an hour and praised the people who in his view were the architects of the document that allows me to speak here today. He mentioned Gandhiji. He mentioned Ambedkarji. He spoke about the contribution of Rajendra Prasadji, Vallabh Bhai Patelji and he even had a couple of words to say about Jawaharlal Nehruji. He spoke about the immense respect he has for the Constitution. He mentioned how he placed the Constitution on top of an elephant when he was the Chief Minister of Gujarat and walked on the road behind the elephant as it carried the Constitution. What a humility for the Chief Minister of a State to stand behind an elephant while it walks with the Constitution… (Interruptions ). I am sorry. I made a mistake. I misunderstood it. The elephant was following the leader and on top of the elephant was the Constitution and the Chief Minister of Gujarat led the elephant. That was a tremendous sign of respect that the Prime Minister has for the Constitution. It is commendable. Yet while I listened to the Prime Minister’s speech, I could see how profoundly we differ in our thinking. As he proceeded in his speech, the differences became bigger and bigger. For Modiji, the people he mentioned were intellectual heroes, to be worshiped and placed on top of a pedestal. He had all the answers to India’s problems. For me, what was heroic about the people he mentioned was their ability to listen to the people of India. They were heroes not because they had all the answers but because they had the humility to ask the right questions. What was heroic to me was their ability to destroy their sense of self and their ego to such a degree that they crystallized into the voice of the people they served. They became the voice of the people they served. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 177 (n3/1655/snb-rv) To me they were heroic because they put aside their insecurities; they put aside their failures; they put aside their worries and they listened to the people of India. They listened to what India was saying. They allowed India to speak. For the first time in centuries they gave India the dignity to talk. India did not just talk, India sang and India sang so beautifully that the world could do nothing but listen in rapt attention. Madam Speaker, for me the real authors of the Constitution were people that the hon. Prime Minister did not spend much time talking about in his speech and they were the very people of this country. The millions of voices – the rich, the poor, male, female, Hindu and Muslims, Sikh, Punjabi, Marathi, Malayali, Gujarati, the Kisan, the mazdoor , the small businessmen, the big industrialists, the widowed mother, the orphaned son. Every single one of them, including the weakest and the most powerless of them all, all Gandhiji and his colleagues did was to love them and listen to them with compassion and sensitivity… (Interruptions ) The Constitution gives all Indians Fundamental Rights. I would like to mention the first and possibly the most important, the Right to Equality which includes equality before law, prohibition of discrimination on grounds of religion, race, caste, gender, place of birth and equality of opportunity in matters of employment, abolition of untouchability and abolition of Titles. Every single one of us in this room swore an oath to protect these rights for our people. I am looking around here and I cannot see Shri V.K.Singh who not only swore an oath as a Minister, he swore an oath as a Member of Parliament and he swore an oath as an Army man. I cannot find Shri V.K.Singh here. A General who likened dalit children to dogs … ( Interruptions ) who called the dalit children dogs. gÉÉÒ +ÉxÉÖ®ÉMÉ É˺Éc ~ÉBÉÖE® (càÉÉÒ®{ÉÖ®) : àÉcÉänªÉ, ªÉc BÉEÉÆOÉäºÉ BÉEÉ +ɺÉiªÉ cè*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉxÉÖ®ÉMÉ VÉÉÒ, +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉèÉÊ~A* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 178 …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ ºÉnºªÉMÉhÉ, +ÉÉ{É ãÉÉäMÉ ABÉE-nںɮä BÉEÉä bɪɮäBÉD] àÉiÉ BÉEÉÒÉÊVÉA* ªÉc BÉDªÉÉ cÉä ®cÉ cè? +ÉÉ{É ãÉÉäMÉ SÉÖ{É ®ÉÊcA* SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): He has directly challenged the Constitution and the Fundamental Right of Equality by equating dalit children to dogs. … (Interruptions ) Our hon. Prime Minister allows this man to continue as Minister as if nothing has happened… ( Interruptions ) The hon. Prime Minister is able to worship Dr. Ambedkar and forget that he spent entire life protecting those two children… ( Interruptions ) He helped write the Constitution so that those two little children could not get burnt. He helped write the Constitution precisely so that those two children would not get burnt. The hon. Prime Minister, of course, simply is unable to see the contradiction. Here we have Sakshi Maharaj ji and of course, I do not see Yogi Adityanath ji sitting in front of us. You are all aware of the language they use, the way they talk about our countrymen, about people outside. (o3/1700/ru-cp) Yet, the Prime Minister who quotes Dr. Ambedkar, who quotes Gandhi Ji remains silent and does not say a word.… ( Interruptions ) Modi Ji goes abroad and gives lectures to everybody and in India, he says that defence of the country is very important. He talks about FDI in Defence. I would like to ask him another question. Mohammad Aklaq, father of a young Air Force man, Mohammad Sartaj, who is serving our nation today in the Air Force was killed in cold blood simply because he was a Muslim. When asked what his message was for all of us after his father’s brutal murder, Sartaj responded. ºÉÉ®ä VÉcÉÆ ºÉä +ÉSUÉ ÉËcnÖºiÉÉxÉ càÉÉ®É, àÉVÉc¤É xÉcÉÓ ÉʺÉJÉÉiÉÉ +ÉÉ{ÉºÉ àÉå ¤Éè® ®JÉxÉÉ* The man ultimately responsible for his protection, the Prime Minister of India, remains silent.… ( Interruptions ) The Prime Minister of India does not see the contradiction. The Government talks of Skill India. … ( Interruptions ) The 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 179 Government talks of Skill India. Modi Ji tells everybody that the most important thing that we have to do is to skill our people to ensure that every Indian has skills. Yet, when students in FTII with superb skills complain that a mediocre man has been placed on top of them in their institution, what does the Government do? The Government simply tries to crush the will of the students. It tries to intimidate them. I went there. I spoke to them. All they wanted is very simple. They did not want anything big. All they wanted was for you to listen to them. They want to be heard. That is all. Yet, the Government that crushed their voice does not see the contradiction. Dabholkar Ji, Pansare Ji and Kalburgi Ji were shot dead in cold blood by fanatics. The Prime Minister has nothing to say about it. He has nothing to say.… (Interruptions ) àÉèbàÉ, MÉÖVÉ®ÉiÉ àÉå ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉxÉÖ®ÉMÉ VÉÉÒ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: I am sorry. I have to conclude the discussion now. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ªÉä ºÉ¤É ¤ÉÉiÉå BÉE<Ç ¤ÉÉ® cÉä SÉÖBÉEÉÒ cé* ¤Éè~ VÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 180 gÉÉÒ ®ÉcÖãÉ MÉÉÆvÉÉÒ (+ÉàÉä~ÉÒ) : ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉÆJªÉÉ àÉå ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä +ÉÆn® BÉE® ÉÊnªÉÉ, ¤ÉÆn BÉE® ÉÊnªÉÉ* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) (p3/1705/rbn/raj) HON. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. Why all of you are saying something? … ( Interruptions )… (Not recorded) HON. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. Only Shri Rahul Gandhi’s speech will go on record. … ( Interruptions )… (Not recorded) gÉÉÒ ®ÉcÖãÉ MÉÉÆvÉÉÒ (+ÉàÉä~ÉÒ) : +É¤É àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä ¤ÉiÉÉiÉÉ cÚÆ, àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ àÉnn BÉE®xÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ, +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉÉÒVÉä{ÉÉÒ àÉå cé* +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä xÉ®äxp àÉÉänÉÒ VÉÉÒ àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ |ÉvÉÉxÉàÉÆjÉÉÒ cé, àÉé +ÉÉ{ɺÉä BÉEcxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE +ÉÉ{É ãÉÉäMÉ iÉÉä +É{ÉxÉä £ÉÉÒ xÉcÉÓ ®cä,...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) BÉDªÉÉåÉÊBÉE +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ABÉE +ÉÉnàÉÉÒ +É°ôhÉ ¶ÉÉè®ÉÒ VÉÉÒ cé, VÉÉä {ÉcãÉä àÉÉänÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEÉÒ |ɶÉƺÉÉ BÉE®iÉä lÉä* =xcÉåxÉä àÉÉänÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå nÉä-iÉÉÒxÉ MÉãÉiÉ SÉÉÒVÉå BÉEcÉÒ, lÉÉä½É ÉʵÉEÉÊ]ºÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 181 Arun Jaitley, this is not a dream like your Make in India project. This is reality. Do you think people like Shri Narayana Murthy, Shri Raghuram Rajan, Shri P.M. Bhargava have nothing better to do than manufacture protest against you? They are saying it because they are disturbed like millions of people in this country. Please give them the respect of trying to understand what disturbs them. Do not brush them aside. Go and listen to them. The Prime Minister talks about economic growth and progress. At the same time, his colleagues talk about sending Bollywood stars to Pakistan. India is successful because we have given our people the space to talk; India is successful because we have embraced our people and let them be part of the conversation. Our greatest strength is our tolerance. Pakistan has failed because they did not allow the voice of their people to be heard. They have failed because their leaders crushed the voices that were inconvenient to them. Their biggest weakness is their intolerance. … (Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Now, please conclude. Your time is over. SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): Madam Speaker, I am concluding. … (Interruptions ) They are not letting me speak. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: What to do? It is happening from all the sides. … ( Interruptions ) SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): Madam Speaker, let us not learn the wrong lessons. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Shri Anurag Thakur, I am sorry. Please sit down. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Shrimati Bijoya Chakravarty, please sit down. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Shri Rahul Gandhi, please conclude. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Shri Rahul Gandhi, address the Chair and conclude. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 182 … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Shri Tariq Anwar, you should not direct me. I am sorry. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: I am telling you. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: I know. Everybody is doing that. You please sit down. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: All sections are doing all these things. What is all this? … ( Interruptions ) SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): Their biggest weakness is intolerance. I would request the Government not to learn the wrong lesson from them. (q3/1710/brv-nsh) Please be tolerant. Please listen to your people, embrace your own people. Gandhi ji, the Father of our Nation, gave our people voice. He allowed people who had not been heard for centuries to sing. Nathuram Godse put three bullets inside his chest. I sat here and listened the other day while Shri Narendra Modi ji praised Gandhi ji, our leader. I have also seen him remain silent when that one hon. Member ...( Expunged as ordered by the Chair ) has called Nathuram Godse a patriot.… ( Interruptions ) bÉì. º´ÉÉàÉÉÒ ºÉÉFÉÉÒVÉÉÒ àÉcÉ®ÉVÉ (=xxÉÉ´É) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 183 HON. SPEAKER: He is not yielding. What are you doing? I will see it. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : VÉÉä ¶É¤n xÉcÉÓ cÉäxÉÉ SÉÉÉÊcA, =ºÉä àÉé ABÉDºÉ{ÉÆVÉ BÉE°ôÆMÉÉÒ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: What do you want to say? He is not yielding. àÉé ¤ÉÉn àÉå ¤ÉÉäãÉxÉä nÚÆMÉÉÒ* He is concluding. What is it? SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): I will conclude.… ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Shri Rahul Gandhi, please conclude. SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): I will take only one minute. I am pretty certain, Madam Speaker, that the Prime Minister does not see the contradiction. HON. SPEAKER: Now, it is your concluding statement! SHRI RAHUL GANDHI (AMETHI): Will the Prime Minister start to listen to the voice of our people? Or, will he stand by and watch as his colleagues trample on the voice of this country? Will he simply place the Constitution on an elephant and walk in front of it? Or, will he do his job and defend what he stands for? Will he let our beautiful India continue to sing? Or, does he think he can condemn our nation to silence? Thank you, Madam Speaker. (ends) HON. SPEAKER: Dr. Swami Sakshiji Maharaj, what do you want to say? +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉ xÉÉàÉ +ÉɪÉÉ lÉÉ* bÉì. º´ÉÉàÉÉÒ ºÉÉFÉÉÒVÉÉÒ àÉcÉ®ÉVÉ (=xxÉÉ´É) : +ÉvªÉFÉÉ VÉÉÒ, àÉé BÉEcxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE ÉʤÉxÉÉ xÉÉäÉÊ]ºÉ BÉEä àÉä®ä ºÉÆn£ÉÇ àÉå BÉEÉä<Ç ¤ÉÉiÉ xÉcÉÓ BÉEcÉÒ VÉÉ ºÉBÉEiÉÉÒ*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É {É® AÉÊãÉMÉä¶ÉxÉ xÉcÉÓ ãÉMÉÉA cé* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 184 bÉì. º´ÉÉàÉÉÒ ºÉÉFÉÉÒVÉÉÒ àÉcÉ®ÉVÉ (=xxÉÉ´É) : ®ÉcÖãÉ MÉÉÆvÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ xÉä nÉä-iÉÉÒxÉ ¤ÉÉ® àÉä®É xÉÉàÉ ÉÊãɪÉÉ cè* +ÉÉÉÊJÉ®BÉEÉ® àÉéxÉä BÉDªÉÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ* ÉÊBÉEºÉ ºÉÆn£ÉÇ àÉå àÉä®É xÉÉàÉ ÉÊãɪÉÉ MɪÉÉ* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 185 ¯BÉÖEÄ´É® {ÉÖ−{Éäxp É˺Éc SÉxnäãÉ (càÉÉÒ®{ÉÖ®) : ºÉààÉÉxÉÉÒªÉ ={ÉÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉ, nä¶É BÉEÉä BÉEàÉVÉÉä® BÉE®xÉä BÉEÉ +ɺÉ{ÉEãÉ |ɪÉÉºÉ BÉE®xÉä ´ÉÉãÉÉÒ BÉEÉÆOÉäºÉ A´ÉÆ àÉÉBÉDºÉÇ´ÉÉnÉÒ BÉEàªÉÖÉÊxɺ] {ÉÉ]ÉÔ BÉEÉä º{É−] ¤ÉcÖàÉiÉ cÉÒ £ÉÉVÉ{ÉÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ®/AxÉbÉÒA ºÉ®BÉEÉ® VÉÉä àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ xÉ®äxp £ÉÉ<Ç àÉÉänÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEä xÉäiÉßi´É àÉå +ÉÉÊiÉ =kÉàÉ BÉEɪÉÇ BÉE® ®cÉÒ cè, ÉÊ´É{ÉFÉÉÒ nãÉÉå BÉEÉä ¤ÉnÉǶiÉ xÉcÉÓ cÉä ®cÉÒ cè * <ºÉ BÉEÉ®hÉ ºÉä nä¶É àÉå ºÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ A´ÉÆ +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ {É® ¤ÉcºÉ |ÉÉ®Æ£É BÉE®É nÉÒ cè * <ºÉ àÉci´É{ÉÚhÉÇ ÉÊ´É−ÉªÉ {É® +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä àÉÖZÉä +É{ÉxÉä º´ÉªÉÆ BÉEä ÉÊ´ÉSÉÉ® |ɺiÉÖiÉ BÉE®xÉä BÉEÉ +ɴɺɮ |ÉnÉxÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ cè, +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä vÉxªÉ´ÉÉn YÉÉÉÊ{ÉiÉ BÉE®iÉÉ cÚÆ * àÉcÉänªÉ, "´ÉºÉÖvÉè´É BÉEÉè]Öà¤ÉBÉEàÉÂ" BÉEÉÒ {ÉcSÉÉxÉ ®JÉxÉä ´ÉÉãÉÉ càÉÉ®É nä¶É ÉÊcxnÖºiÉÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ ºÉƺBÉßEÉÊiÉ BÉEÉÒ ºÉ®ÉcxÉÉ cVÉÉ®Éå ´É−ÉÉç ºÉä nÖÉÊxɪÉÉ àÉå cÉäiÉÉÒ cè, ºÉÆ{ÉÚhÉÇ ´ÉºÉÖvÉÉ BÉEÉä {ÉÉÊ®´ÉÉ® àÉÉxÉxÉä ´ÉÉãÉä £ÉÉ®iÉÉÒªÉ xÉÉMÉÉÊ®BÉEÉå BÉEÉä +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖ BÉEcBÉE® +É{ÉàÉÉÉÊxÉiÉ BÉE®xÉä ´ÉÉãÉä BÉEÉÆOÉäºÉ A´ÉÆ BÉEàªÉÖÉÊxɺ] ÉÊ´ÉSÉÉ®vÉÉ®É ´ÉÉãÉä iÉlÉÉBÉEÉÊlÉiÉ ¤ÉÖÉÊrVÉÉÒÉʴɪÉÉå xÉä nÖÉÊxɪÉÉ àÉå ÉÊcxnÖºiÉÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ ¤Éfà ®cÉÒ UÉÊ´É BÉEÉä FÉÉÊiÉ {ÉcÖÆSÉÉxÉä BÉEÉ BÉEÉàÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ cè * àÉÉänÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEä xÉäiÉßi´É àÉå nä¶É àÉå àÉäBÉE * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 186 ={ÉÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉ, 193 BÉEä iÉciÉ ÉÊ´É{ÉFÉ uÉ®É +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ {É® 30 xÉ´Éà¤É® BÉEÉä SÉSÉÉÇ àÉÉÆMÉÉÒ lÉÉÒ * àÉé PÉÉä® ÉÊ´É®ÉävÉ BÉE®iÉä cÖA, +ÉÆiÉ àÉå ÉÊxÉ´ÉänxÉ BÉE®iÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE VÉÉä ãÉÉäMÉ nä¶É BÉEÉä àÉVɤÉÚiÉ näJÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉä cé, ´Éä ºÉàÉZÉnÉ® cé, iªÉÉMÉÉÒ cé, º´ÉÉlÉÉÔ xÉcÉÓ cè * {É®Éä{ÉBÉEÉ®ÉÒ àÉÉxÉÉʺÉBÉEiÉÉ ´ÉÉãÉä ãÉÉäMÉ nä¶É´ÉÉÉʺɪÉÉå BÉEÉä ºÉÉÊc−hÉÖ cÉÒ ®JÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉä cé * +É{ÉxÉä nä¶É àÉå +É{ÉxÉä{ÉxÉ ºÉä cÉÒ ®cxÉÉ SÉÉciÉä cé, ¶ÉÉÆÉÊiÉ A´ÉÆ |ÉäàÉ ºÉä ®cxÉÉ SÉÉciÉä cé ´ÉcÉÓ nںɮÉÒ iÉ®{ÉE BÉEÉÆOÉäºÉ ´É BÉEàªÉÖÉÊxɺ] BÉEä xÉäiÉÉ VÉÉä ÉÊàÉãÉBÉE® £ÉÉÒ ãÉÉäBÉE ºÉ£ÉÉ àÉå ÉÊ´É{ÉFÉ BÉEÉÒ ºÉÆJªÉÉ £ÉÉÒ {ÉÚ®ÉÒ xÉcÉÓ BÉE® {ÉÉ ®cä cé, nä¶É xÉä (<ÉÊiÉ) 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 187 * DR. KULMANI SAMAL (JAGATSINGHPUR): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 188 *SHRI S.P. MUDDAHANUME GOWDA (TUMKUR): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 189 * SHRI KONDA VISHWESHWAR REDDY (CHEVELLA): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 190 1713 hours SHRI PRALHAD JOSHI (DHARWAD): Madam, I thank you for calling me to speak. Madam, I thought that Shri Rahul Gandhi would react to the statement of Shri P. Chidambaram. HON. SPEAKER: He is not yielding. SHRI PRALHAD JOSHI (DHARWAD): 27 ºÉÉãÉ ºÉä {ÉcãÉä VÉÉä cÖ+ÉÉ lÉÉ, VÉÉä AäBÉDºÉè{] ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ, ÉÊSÉnà¤É®àÉ ºÉÉc¤É xÉä =ºÉ ºÉàÉªÉ MÉßc ®ÉVªÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ cÉäiÉä cÖA, =xÉBÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå ®ÉcÖãÉ MÉÉÆvÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEÉä ªÉÉn xÉcÉÓ +ÉɪÉÉ* He talked so much of intolerance but he never bothered to at least disown the statement of Shri Mani Shanker Aiyar and Shri Salman Khurshid. He said Pakistan has become a failed State because of intolerance. But these people, Shri Mani Shankar Aiyar and Shri Salman Khurshid, they went to Pakistan and they praised the Pakistan Prime Minister and condemned the Indian, elected Prime Minister. By a way of constitutional method which Dr. Ambedkar had given us as a gift, by that constitutional authority, Shri Narendra Modi has become the Prime Minister. These people go there and condemn it. Now, they are talking of intolerance in India. This is a most strange thing, a shameful thing. The second thing is that this country, in the entire world, is the secular country. It is the only secular country in the world because 80 per cent Hindus are there in this country. The Hindus treat, the Hindus believe that Hinduism is not just a religion but it is away of life. It is not only tolerant. ºÉ´ÉÇvÉàÉÇ ºÉàÉ£ÉÉ´É xÉcÉÓ cè, ºÉ´ÉÇvÉàÉÇ MÉÉè®´É BÉEÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 191 Yedurappa ji, who is sitting here, had a very good relation with Kalburgi ji. Kalburgi ji had openly supported my election. He had a very good rapport with me and with my Party. What are you talking? They do not know anything about Kalburgi ji. Ultimately, he was murdered. Please listen to me. +ÉÉ{É ºÉÖxÉxÉä BÉEÉ {Éä¶ÉåºÉ ®ÉÊJÉA, Now, it is the 93 rd day after the assassination of Kalburgi ji. Immediately after his assassination, I went to his house, I went to hospital; and I demanded on the same day, a very serious enquiry should be conducted on this murder. Not even one person is arrested today. Who’s Government is there in Karnataka? … (Interruptions ) This matter was handed over to CID of Karnataka to investigate. The Crime Investigation Department (CID) had made a statement that they have stopped the investigation. Do you know Madam the reason? Let the House know that because of paucity of funds. The Karnataka Government is not providing funds for the CID team and that is why the investigation is stopped. What has happened in this country? … ( Interruptions ) I am not yielding. … ( Interruptions ) After 93 days, no one is arrested. º{Éä¶ÉãÉÉÒ BÉEÉÆOÉäºÉ +ÉÉè® BÉEàªÉÖÉÊxɺ] BÉEä ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä nä¶É àÉå BÉÖEU £ÉÉÒ cÉäiÉÉ cè iÉÉä ªÉä ´Éä +ÉÉ®AºÉAºÉ BÉEÉ xÉÉàÉ ãÉäiÉä cé, +É¤É ABÉE xɪÉÉ ]àÉÉæãÉÉäVÉÉÒ |ÉEäàÉ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ MɪÉÉ cè, ®É<] ÉË´ÉMÉ ]ä®ÉÊ®º] BÉEcÉ VÉÉxÉä ãÉMÉÉ cè* ´É−ÉÇ 2000 àÉå <ºÉ nä¶É àÉå BÉDªÉÉ cÖ+ÉÉ, VÉ¤É ´ÉÉVÉ{ÉäªÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ nä¶É àÉå °ôãÉ BÉE® ®cä lÉä +ÉÉè® +ÉxªÉ |Énä¶ÉÉå àÉå nںɮÉÒ {ÉÉÉÌ]ªÉÉå BÉEÉ °ôãÉ SÉãÉ ®cÉ lÉÉ* BÉExÉÉ]ÇBÉE BÉEä SÉSÉÇ àÉå ¤ÉÆ¤É ¤ãÉɺ] cÉä MɪÉÉ* =ºÉ ºÉàÉªÉ ¶ÉɪÉn ABÉE àÉÆjÉÉÒ lÉä, (Not recorded) iÉÖ®ÆiÉ ABÉE º]ä]àÉå] +ÉɪÉÉ ÉÊBÉE <ºÉàÉå +ÉÉ®AºÉAºÉ BÉEÉ cÉlÉ cè, ¤ÉÉn àÉå {ÉiÉÉ SÉãÉÉ BÉEÉÒ nÉÒxÉnÉ® +ÉÆVÉÖàÉxÉ ÉʺÉrBÉEÉÒ VÉÉä ÉʺÉàÉÉÒ BÉEÉ {ÉÚ´ÉÇ °ô{É lÉÉ SIMI was banned at that time. =xÉBÉEÉ cÉlÉ lÉÉ This was proved. Later, they are convicted. When they were convicted, I became MP. And I demanded that whoever has named the RSS without any basis, will you, for courtesy sake, apologise? No Congress leader was ready to apologise. This has happened. From Gandhi ji ’s assassination to this date, what has happened? There was a Member of Parliament, Shri Jaganatharao Joshi. He was from my State. In those days also, the RSS was blamed. Once, one Congress neta 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 192 … ( Interruptions ) =xÉBÉEÉä +ÉÉBÉE® º´ÉÉÒ] ÉÊnªÉÉ, VÉMÉxxÉÉlÉ ®É´É VÉÉÒ xÉä =xÉBÉEÉä {ÉÚUÉ ÉÊBÉE BÉDªÉÉ cÉä MɪÉÉ, =xcÉåxÉä BÉEcÉ ÉÊBÉE àÉÖZÉä ¤Éä]É cÖ+ÉÉ cè, VÉMÉxxÉÉlÉ ®É´É VÉÉÒ xÉä {ÉÚUÉ ÉÊBÉE <ºÉàÉå £ÉÉÒ +ÉÉ®AºÉAºÉ BÉEÉ cÉlÉ cè BÉDªÉÉ? 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 193 Commissioner of Mangalore was instructed not to visit Prashant Pujari’s house, who was murdered, and console the family. This is their tolerance. … (Interruptions ) Madam, that is why, the CID inquiry in Kalburgi case has been stopped because they are not able to trace out the culprits. I asked the ADG of CID about it. I asked, ‘Is there any clue?’ He said, ‘no’. I asked, ‘Is there any lead?’ He said, ‘no’. But even then they want to blame right wing terrorists and they want to blame the RSS. … ( Interruptions ) Madam, the hon. Home Minister, the most efficient and senior most leader who knows the country very well Rajnath Singhji is sitting here. I request him with folded hands to hand over this case to the CBI, let the truth come out. Then everybody will come to know as to what is the truth. These people are trying to mislead the entire country. With these words, I conclude my speech. Thank you very much. (ends) gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, VÉÉä¶ÉÉÒ ºÉÉc¤É BÉExÉÉÇ]BÉE àÉå £ÉÉ®iÉÉÒªÉ VÉxÉiÉÉ {ÉÉ]ÉÔ BÉEä +ÉvªÉFÉ cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) ´Éä +É{ÉxÉÉÒ ºÉ{ÉEÉ<Ç ªÉcÉÆ {É® nä ®cä cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ´Éc ºÉ{ÉEÉ<Ç xÉcÉÓ nä ®cä* +ÉÉ{É ¤Éè~ VÉÉ<ªÉä* =xcÉåxÉä BÉÖEU ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉEcÉÒ +ÉÉè® +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä BÉÖEU ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉEcÉÒ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : =xcÉåxÉä +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ÉÊãÉA BÉÖEU xÉcÉÓ ¤ÉÉäãÉÉ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: He has not said anything about you. … ( Interruptions ) gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : VÉ¤É àÉé cÉäàÉ ÉÊàÉÉÊxɺ]® lÉÉ, iÉÉä àÉéxÉä +ÉÉ®AºÉAºÉ BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå ¤ÉÉäãÉÉ* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉiÉÉ<ªÉä* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ÉÊãÉA xÉcÉÓ BÉEcÉ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : +ÉMÉ® àÉéxÉä AäºÉÉ ¤ÉÉäãÉÉ cè, iÉÉä àÉé c® ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉEä ÉÊãÉA iÉèªÉÉ® cÚÆ* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) ªÉc BÉDªÉÉ ºÉàÉZÉBÉE® ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉE®iÉä cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) I have seen so many people like you. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 194 Don’t attribute any motive to me. Have I spoken like that? You people are always doing this. … ( Interruptions ) ºÉÖ¤Éc =~iÉä cÉÒ BÉEÉÆOÉäºÉ BÉEÉ {Éä{É® {ÉfÃiÉä cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) HON. SPEAKER: Khargeji, please take your seat. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : JɽMÉä VÉÉÒ, BÉßE{ɪÉÉ BÉE®BÉEä +ÉÉ{É ¤Éè~ VÉÉ<ªÉä* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : JɽMÉä VÉÉÒ, àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : àÉé ÉÊ®BÉEÉìbÇ näJÉÚÆMÉÉÒ, ¤ÉÉiÉ BÉE°ôÆMÉÉÒ ÉÊ{ÉE® cÉäMÉÉ, +É£ÉÉÒ xÉcÉÓ cÉäMÉÉ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : cÉÆ, àÉéxÉä àÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 195 àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ªÉc ÉÊ®BÉEÉìbÇ cÉä MɪÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä xÉcÉÓ BÉEcÉ cè* You have denied it. …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : àÉéxÉä BÉEcÉ cè ÉÊBÉE àÉé näJÉÚÆMÉÉÒ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉMÉ® =xÉBÉEÉ xÉÉàÉ ºÉcÉÒ xÉcÉÓ cè iÉÉä xÉÉàÉ ÉÊxÉBÉEÉãÉ nÚÆMÉÉÒ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉèÉÊ~A* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ BÉEÉè¶ÉãÉäxp BÉÖEàÉÉ® (xÉÉãÉÆnÉ) : àÉä®ä {ÉÉºÉ ºÉàÉªÉ BÉEàÉ cè, BÉßE{ɪÉÉ lÉÉä½É ºÉàÉªÉ ¤ÉfÃÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ VÉÉA* àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä {ÉÉºÉ ABÉE ÉÊàÉxÉ] BÉEÉ ºÉàÉªÉ cè* ºÉàÉªÉ xÉcÉÓ ¤ÉfÃÉxÉÉ cè* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 196 *SHRI R. DHRUVANARAYANA (CHAMARAJANAGAR): * Laid on the Table 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 197 1726 ¤ÉVÉä gÉÉÒ BÉEÉè¶ÉãÉäxp BÉÖEàÉÉ® (xÉÉãÉÆnÉ) : àÉé ºÉàÉZÉiÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE c® iÉ®{ÉE ºÉä ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ +ÉÉ MÉ<Ç cè, àÉé nÉä-iÉÉÒxÉ ÉÊàÉxÉ] àÉå +É{ÉxÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ ºÉàÉÉ{iÉ BÉE°ôÆMÉÉ* VÉ¤É ºÉä BÉEåp ºÉ®BÉEÉ® ¤ÉxÉÉÒ cè, iÉ¤É ºÉä ãÉMÉÉiÉÉ® +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ BÉEÉÒ SÉSÉÉÇ cÉä ®cÉÒ cè* <ºÉ nä¶É BÉEä àÉcÉàÉÉÊcàÉ ®É−]Å{ÉÉÊiÉ cÉÒ xÉcÉÓ ¤ÉÉÎãBÉE +ÉÉä¤ÉÉàÉÉ ºÉÉc¤É VÉèºÉä ®É−]Å{ÉÉÊiÉ xÉä £ÉÉÒ nä¶É àÉå +ÉÉBÉE® +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ BÉEÉÒ SÉSÉÉÇ BÉEÉÒ* +É£ÉÉÒ ÉʤÉcÉ® àÉå SÉÖxÉÉ´É lÉÉ, <ºÉ nä¶É BÉEä àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ |ÉvÉÉàÉÆjÉÉÒ xÉä {É]xÉÉ BÉEä MÉÉÆvÉÉÒ àÉènÉxÉ àÉå cÉÒ xÉcÉÓ ¤ÉÉÎãBÉE {ÉÚ®ä ÉʤÉcÉ® àÉå PÉÚàÉ-PÉÚàÉBÉE® +ÉÉn®hÉÉÒªÉ xÉäiÉÉ ÉÊxÉiÉÉÒ¶É BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå BÉEcÉ ÉÊBÉE =xÉBÉEÉ bÉÒAxÉA JÉ®É¤É cè* BÉDªÉÉ ªÉc +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ xÉcÉÓ cè? ªÉc £ÉÉÒ +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE |Énä¶É BÉEä àÉÖJªÉàÉÆjÉÉÒ BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ |ÉvÉÉxÉàÉÆjÉÉÒ AäºÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ ¤ÉÉäãÉå* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 198 1729 hours *SHRI C.N. JAVADEVAN (THRISSUR) :Thank you Madam, I am sorry that I am speaking in my language Malayalam. There is a saying in Malayalam which I want to tell to those who killed Kalburgi, had those who killed Govind Pansare I quote “Guns cannot silence the words; because words have final answer for the intolerance of the gun. Always the gun cannot win, that is the meaning” (original English) . The Sangh Pariwar should understand that guns cannot prevail over words. After independence on 1948, January 30 th bullets were fired on Mahatma Gandhi ji’s chest. From that day, the intolerance of the Sangh Pariwar has manifested to silence all those with whom you could not agree ideologically. Day before yesterday, while addressing the international seminar in Paris our Prime Minister said, that only some people should not exploit the natural resources of the poor in the third world countries. But I would interpret this apparently noble sentiment as intolerance. You talk about the advanced countries, exploiting the poor in the third world, but what about the rich capitalists of this country who are exploiting the poor of our own country? Can we demarcate, the caste and religion of the capitalists of this country? Our friend from Bengal, who is also an eminent historian named several freedom fighters and asked us, whether they had any religion or caste? I am going to read the list of names of the capitalists in this country. Tata Birla, Goyanka, Dalmia, Aravind, Mafatlal, Godrej, Hinduja, Ambani, Adani. What is there caste or religion? We don’t know it but they are exploiting the poor of this country who constitute the majority. They are the monopoly capitalists. We cannot show tolerance to these forces, and intolerance should not be shown to any caste and religious groups. (ends) *Original in Malayalam. 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 199 1732 hours SHRI N.K. PREMACHANDRAN (KOLLAM): Thank you Madam Speaker. I will try to finish my speech within three minutes. HON. SPEAKER: You are allowed to speak only for two minutes. SHRI N.K. PREMACHANDRAN (KOLLAM): Madam, this House is compelled to discuss about the increasing incidents of intolerance. This is quite unfortunate. Why is it? It is an admitted fact that after this Government is assuming power, series of incidents of intolerance has happened in our country. I am not going into the series of incidents because of the lack of time. But I would like to cite three things. First, there is a murder of Indian intellectual, writer, philosopher, etc. Secondly, there is an unwanted controversy on the consumption of beef. It is being brought into the society. What is the purpose behind it? Thirdly, there are irresponsible statements of the responsible ministers and the persons who are holding important offices in the Government. These are the three reasons by which the incidents of intolerance have been increasing in the country and it has come to the world’s scenario also. It is shame to the country as a whole as the hon. Minister has just cited that the atmosphere is not vitiated by the Opposition or by any other party, it is absolutely by the party which is supporting the Government. Madam, I would also like to refer the incident of M. M. Kalburgi's murder. Mr. Pralhad Joshi was very vehemently arguing for protection given to him. After M.M. Kalburgi’s murder, another threat and death warning is given to Mr. K.S. Bhagwan, one of the eminent rationalist, writer, thinker and philosopher. He is the next target. What Mr. Pralhad Joshi has to say about this? Still it is increasing. … (Interruptions ) Not only that, I would like to state a recent incident which has happened in the State of Kerala. I may also be allowed to mention that. … (Interruptions ) My State is a literate State. My State is a politically mature State. … ( Interruptions ) But unfortunately, day before yesterday, a very unfortunate incident took place. Some workers were cleaning a manhole in the city of Calicut. Unfortunately, they fell into the manhole. One auto-rickshaw was passing through 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 200 that way. He saw this incident. He stopped his auto-rickshaw and jumped into the manhole to save the lives of poor workers. (w3/1735/lh-ind) He also died. Madam, he has sacrificed his life for others. Unfortunately, he was a Muslim by name ‘Naushad’. The hon. Chief Minister of Kerala, Shri Oommen Chandy is a Christian. He went to his home and awarded Rs.10 lakh. What is the statement of the leader of the Samatva Munnetra Jadha – equality movement? One of the prominent leaders in the State has said: “It is only because he is a Muslim, this compensation has been granted’. You can see the intolerance that is being increasing in our country. If this intolerance continues in our country, what will be the fate of our democracy and what will be the fate of our secularism in this country? So, Madam, my submission is that the sole reason for these happenings is this. I am not blaming them. Intolerance was there in the country during the time of the UPA Government also but none of the Government officials or the Prime Minister, either by silence or by words supported the incidents of intolerance in our country. That is the difference. What is happening here? Intelligent and deliberate silence of the hon. Prime Minister amounts to the concern of this intolerance. So, my suggestion is that strong and stringent action has to be taken by the Prime Minister. Only then, we can contain this intolerance. If strong and stringent action is not taken by the Government, definitely the Government cannot survive further, sacrificing the secular fabric of our country. Thank you. 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CHAIRPERSON: It is not necessary. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉèÉÊ~A* c® £ÉÉ−ÉhÉ àÉå ]ÉäBÉEÉ-]ÉBÉEÉÒ BÉE®xÉÉ ~ÉÒBÉE xÉcÉÓ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc : ªÉc +ÉÉ®Éä{É {ÉÉ]ÉÔ ªÉÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® {É® xÉcÉÓ cè, ¤ÉÉÎãBÉE àÉé àÉÉxÉiÉÉ cÚÆ, ªÉc +ÉÉ®Éä{É £ÉÉ®iÉÉÒªÉ ºÉàÉÉVÉ +ÉÉè® £ÉÉ®iÉ ®É−]Å BÉEä >ó{É® cè* £ÉÉ®iÉÉÒªÉ ®ÉVÉxÉÉÒÉÊiÉ àÉå +ɺ{É߶ªÉiÉÉ +ÉÉè® +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ BÉEÉ ºÉ¤ÉºÉä VªÉÉnÉ ÉʶÉBÉEÉ® +ÉMÉ® BÉEÉä<Ç ®ÉVÉxÉÉÒÉÊiÉBÉE {ÉÉ]ÉÔ ®cÉÒ cè iÉÉä ´Éc £ÉÉ®iÉÉÒªÉ VÉxÉiÉÉ {ÉÉ]ÉÔ ®cÉÒ cè* càÉ <ºÉBÉEä ºÉ´ÉÉÇÉÊvÉBÉE ÉʶÉBÉEÉ® ®cä cé* ºÉ¤ÉºÉä +ÉÉÊvÉBÉE +ÉÉʺÉc−hÉÖiÉÉ BÉEÉ ÉʶÉBÉEÉ® +ÉMÉ® ÉÊcxnÖºiÉÉxÉ BÉEÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉÒÉÊiÉ àÉå BÉEÉä<Ç cÖ+ÉÉ cè iÉÉä +ÉÉVÉ BÉEä càÉÉ®ä |ÉvÉÉxÉàÉÆjÉÉÒ gÉÉÒ xÉ®äxp àÉÉänÉÒ ºÉ´ÉÉÇÉÊvÉBÉE +ɺÉÉÊc−hÉÖiÉÉ BÉEä ÉʶÉBÉEÉ® cÖA cé* +É´ÉÉbÇ ´ÉÉ{ɺÉÉÒ BÉEÉ ABÉE nÉè® SÉãÉ ®cÉ lÉÉ* càÉÉ®ä ªÉcÉÆ VÉÉä ºÉÚSÉxÉÉ cè, ãÉMÉ£ÉMÉ 39 ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä +É{ÉxÉä A´ÉÉbÇ ´ÉÉ{ÉºÉ ÉÊBÉEA cé* àÉé +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ºÉÆYÉÉxÉ àÉå ãÉÉxÉÉ SÉÉcÚÆMÉÉ ÉÊBÉE ÉÊVÉxÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä A´ÉÉbÇ ´ÉÉ{ÉºÉ ÉÊBÉEA cé, =xÉàÉå ºÉä BÉÖEU ãÉÉäMÉ AäºÉä cé, ÉÊVÉxcÉåxÉä ãÉÉäBÉE ºÉ£ÉÉ SÉÖxÉÉ´ÉÉå ºÉä {ÉcãÉä ABÉE º]ä]àÉå] VÉÉ®ÉÒ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ lÉÉ, ÉÊVɺÉàÉå BÉEcÉ MɪÉÉ lÉÉ : “A person like Narendra Modi who is a permanent source of anxiety and insecurity for very large sections of our society cannot and should not be allowed to lead India.” (z3/1750/bks-mmn) àÉé 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 206 +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, ¤ÉÉiÉå ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉÉ®ÉÒ cé, ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ àÉé BÉEcxÉÉ xÉcÉÓ SÉÉciÉÉ* càÉxÉä ´Éc nÉè® £ÉÉÒ näJÉÉ cè, AäºÉä ¤ÉcÖiÉ ºÉÉ®ä ãÉÉäMÉ +ÉÉè® +ÉÉMÉæxÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 207 HON. SPEAKER: Please have your seat. gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, àÉé 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 208 HON. SPEAKER: Please sit down. This is not the way. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. … ( Interruptions )… (Not recorded) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ªÉc BÉEÉä<Ç iÉ®ÉÒBÉEÉ xÉcÉÓ cè* +ÉÉ{É £ÉÉÒ SÉÖ{É ®ÉÊcA* ¤ÉcÖiÉ BÉÖEU ºÉàÉZÉxÉÉ cè +É£ÉÉÒ* gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, <ºÉ nä¶É BÉEÉ MÉßc àÉÆjÉÉÒ cÉäxÉä BÉEä xÉÉiÉä, àÉé +É{ÉxÉÉÒ iÉ®{ÉE ºÉä +ÉÉè® +É{ÉxÉä |ÉvÉÉxÉ àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ BÉEÉÒ iÉ®{ÉE ºÉä càÉ <ºÉ nä¶É BÉEÉä Éʴɶ´ÉÉºÉ ÉÊnãÉÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉä cé ÉÊBÉE ªÉcÉÆ {É® ºÉÉàÉÉÉÊVÉBÉE +ÉÉè® vÉÉÉÌàÉBÉE ºÉàÉ®ºÉiÉÉ BÉEÉä ªÉÉÊn BÉEÉä<Ç ÉʤÉMÉɽxÉä BÉEÉÒ BÉEÉäÉÊ¶É¶É BÉE®äMÉÉ iÉÉä =ºÉBÉEÉÒ JÉè® xÉcÉÓ cè* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉé ªÉc ºÉÆnä¶É näxÉÉ SÉÉciÉÉ cÚÄ* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) Éʴɶ´É BÉEä nä¶ÉÉå BÉEÉä näÉÊJÉA* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) ºÉ>ónÉÒ +É®¤É, ÉÊàÉ»É, {ÉÉÉÊBÉEºiÉÉxÉ VÉèºÉä àÉÖãBÉE ºÉÖxxÉÉÒ |ÉvÉÉxÉ cé, ´ÉcÉÆ ÉʶɪÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ +ÉÉè® +ÉcàÉÉÊnªÉÉå BÉEÉÒ cÉãÉiÉ nÉäªÉàÉ nVÉæ BÉEä xÉÉMÉÉÊ®BÉEÉå ºÉä ¤ÉnkÉ® cÉä MÉ<Ç cè* <ºÉÉÒ iÉ®c <®ÉBÉE, <Ç®ÉxÉ, ¤Éc®ÉÒxÉ VÉèºÉä ÉʶɪÉɤÉÉcÖãªÉ nä¶ÉÉå àÉå AäºÉÉ cÉÒ ºÉÆPÉ−ÉÇ ºÉÖÉÎxxɪÉÉå BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ cÉä ®cÉ cè* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) ªÉcÉÆ iÉBÉE ÉÊBÉE ºÉÖÉÎxxɪÉÉå BÉEä £ÉÉÒiÉ® £ÉÉÒ +É®¤ÉÉå +ÉÉè® BÉÖEnÉç BÉEä ¤ÉÉÒSÉ £ÉÉÒ−ÉhÉ ]BÉE®É´É cÉäiÉä cÉÒ ®ciÉä cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) SHRI P. KARUNAKARAN (KASARGOD): What about the statement of Shri V.K. Singh. … ( Interruptions ) gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc& +ÉÉ{É vÉèªÉÇ ®ÉÊJÉA, àÉé ¤ÉÉäãÉÚÆMÉÉ* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) HON. SPEAKER: Karunakaran ji, this is not the way. … ( Interruptions ) gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc& àÉcÉänªÉÉ, =vÉ® ÉʶɪÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ BÉEÉÒ +ÉɤÉÉnÉÒ ´ÉcɤÉÉÒ +ÉÉiàÉPÉÉiÉÉÒ càÉãÉä £ÉÉÒ ®ÉäWÉ BÉEÉÒ ¤ÉÉiÉ cÉä MÉ<Ç cè* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) cÉãÉÉiÉ <ºÉ ºÉÉÒàÉÉ iÉBÉE {ÉcÖÆSÉ SÉÖBÉEä cé ÉÊBÉE iÉàÉÉàÉ <ºãÉÉàÉÉÒ ®É−]Å ABÉE cÉÒ àÉWÉc¤É BÉEä £ÉÉÒiÉ® BÉEÉÒ +ÉãÉMÉ-+ÉãÉMÉ {ÉcSÉÉxÉ BÉEä xÉÉàÉ {É® +ÉÉ{ÉºÉ àÉå ¤ÉÖ®ÉÒ iÉ®c ]BÉE®ÉiÉä ®ciÉä cé* ÉÊVɺÉBÉEÉÒ {ÉÉÊ®hÉiÉÉÒ £ÉªÉÆBÉE® ®BÉDiÉ{ÉÉiÉ +ÉÉè® xÉ®ºÉÆcÉ® àÉå cÉäiÉÉÒ cè* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) HON. SPEAKER: I know you are very clever. But this is not good. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Md. Salim, I am sorry. Let him speak. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Md. Salim, do not have any tolerance. … ( Interruptions 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 209 (b4/1800/cs-san) gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc : <ºÉBÉEä ÉÊ´É{É®ÉÒiÉ £ÉÉ®iÉ àÉå <ºãÉÉàÉ cÉä, SÉÉcä ÉʵÉEÉζSɪÉÉÉÊxÉ]ÉÒ cÉä, SÉÉcä BÉÖEU £ÉÉÒ cÉä, +É{ÉxÉÉÒ iÉàÉÉàÉ ¶ÉÉJÉÉ+ÉÉäÆ BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ àÉÖBÉDiÉ c´ÉÉ àÉå {ÉEãÉiÉÉ-{ÉÚEãÉiÉÉ +ÉÉ ®cÉ cè*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) ªÉcÉÄ ºÉÚ{ÉEÉÒ <ºãÉÉàÉ £ÉÉÒ ºÉãÉÉàÉiÉ cè iÉÉä +ÉcãÉä ºÉÖxxÉiÉ £ÉÉÒ +ÉɤÉÉn cè* nä´É¤ÉxnÉÒ cè iÉÉä ´ÉcɤÉÉÒ £ÉÉÒ, ¤É®äãÉ´ÉÉÒ cè iÉÉä ºÉãÉÉ{ÉEÉÒ £ÉÉÒ cè* nä´É¤ÉÉÎxnªÉÉå +ÉÉè® ¤É®äãÉÉʴɪÉÉå BÉEä àÉiÉ£Éän VÉMÉ-VÉÉÉÊc® cé, àÉMÉ® nÉäxÉÉå cÉÒ {ÉÚ®ÉÒ AciÉ®ÉàÉ BÉEä ºÉÉlÉ +É{ÉxÉÉÒ-+É{ÉxÉÉÒ ÉÊàÉxxÉiÉÉå BÉEÉä +ÉÆVÉÉàÉ näxÉä BÉEÉ BÉEÉàÉ BÉE® ®cä cé +ÉÉè® BÉEcÉÓ {É® +ÉÆVÉÉàÉ näxÉä BÉEÉ BÉEÉàÉ BÉE® ®cä cé iÉÉä £ÉÉ®iÉ àÉå cÉÒ ´Éä +ÉÆVÉÉàÉ näxÉä BÉEÉ BÉEÉàÉ BÉE® ®cä cé*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : BÉDªÉÉ ¤ÉÉiÉ cè? …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ªÉc BÉDªÉÉ cÉä ®cÉ cè? ºÉ¤É ãÉÉäMÉ BÉDªÉÉå Jɽä cé? BÉDªÉÉ +ÉÉ{É VÉÉxÉÉ SÉÉciÉä cé? …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: What is this? Do you want to go? … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: Then, please listen. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ÉÊ®{ãÉÉ<Ç iÉÉä ºÉÖxÉxÉÉ {ɽiÉÉ cè* +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉèÉÊ~A* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ªÉc {ÉrÉÊiÉ ~ÉÒBÉE xÉcÉÓ cè* àÉÉäcààÉn ºÉãÉÉÒàÉ VÉÉÒ, ªÉc {ÉrÉÊiÉ ~ÉÒBÉE xÉcÉÓ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : |ÉVÉÉiÉÆjÉ àÉå ªÉc ~ÉÒBÉE xÉcÉÓ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: No, I am sorry. +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä SÉSÉÉÇ ¶ÉÖ°ô BÉEÉÒ cè* +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä ÉÊ®{ãÉÉ<Ç ºÉÖxÉxÉÉ {ɽäMÉÉ* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: You have demanded the discussion. I am sorry. You will have to listen. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä SÉSÉÉÇ BÉEÉÒ ÉÊbàÉÉÆb BÉEÉÒ cè* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 210 …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: Yes, Khargeji. … ( Interruptions ) HON. SPEAKER: He is yielding to Khargeji. … ( Interruptions ) gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : àÉcÉänªÉÉ, càÉ cÉäàÉ ÉÊàÉÉÊxɺ]® BÉEÉ +ÉÉn® BÉE®iÉä cé, ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ VÉÉä ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ <ºÉ ºÉnxÉ àÉå càÉxÉä =~ÉA cé, +ÉÉVÉ BÉEä ÉÊnxÉ àÉå, ´É−ÉÇ 2015 àÉå BÉDªÉÉ PÉ]xÉɪÉå cÖ<ÇÆ +ÉÉè® +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä àÉÆjÉÉÒ ãÉÉäMÉ BÉDªÉÉ BÉEcä, +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä AàÉ{ÉÉÒVÉ BÉDªÉÉ BÉEcä +ÉÉè® +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ {ÉÉ]ÉÔ BÉEä xÉäiÉÉ ãÉÉäMÉ BÉDªÉÉ BÉEcä, =ºÉBÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå càÉ {ÉÚU ®cä cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) +ÉÉ{É =ºÉBÉEÉ VÉ´ÉÉ¤É nÉÒÉÊVÉA*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ´Éä VÉ´ÉÉ¤É nä nåMÉä* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ àÉÉÎããÉBÉEÉVÉÇÖxÉ JɽMÉä (MÉÖãɤÉMÉÉÇ) : +ÉÉ{É ºÉ>ónÉÒ +É®äÉʤɪÉÉ VÉÉ ®cä cé, +ÉÉ{É +ÉàÉäÉÊ®BÉEÉ VÉÉ ®cä cé, ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ ÉËcnÖºiÉÉxÉ àÉå xÉcÉÓ +ÉÉ ®cä cé*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) £ÉÉ®iÉ nä¶É àÉå +ÉÉ+ÉÉä*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) càÉxÉä VÉÉä ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ =~ÉA cé, {ÉÚ®ä ºÉnxÉ BÉEä ãÉÉäMÉÉå xÉä VÉÉä ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ =~ÉA cé, =ºÉ ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ BÉEÉ VÉ´ÉÉ¤É cÉäxÉÉ SÉÉÉÊcA*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) +ÉÉ{É =ºÉ ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ BÉEÉ VÉ´ÉÉ¤É nÉÒÉÊVÉA ¤ÉVÉÉA <ºÉBÉEä {Éä{É® {ÉfÃBÉE® ¤ÉiÉÉxÉä àÉå BÉÖEU xÉcÉÓ cè*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc : càÉ =ºÉ {É® £ÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉäãÉåMÉä*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : JɽMÉä VÉÉÒ, ¤ÉèÉÊ~A* ´Éä ºÉ¤É BÉÖEU ¤ÉÉäãÉåMÉä* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ºÉ£ÉÉÒ ºÉ¤É VÉMÉc PÉÚàÉBÉE® +ÉÉA cé* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) HON. SPEAKER: Shri Venugopal, you should not say anything. … ( Interruptions ) HON. 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SPEAKER: All of them have said that reply should be completed. … ( Interruptions ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ®ÉäVÉ-®ÉäVÉ +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä £ÉÉÒ ÉÊSÉããÉÉxÉÉ xÉcÉÓ {ɽäMÉÉ* ¤Éè~ VÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 212 àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : That is very bad. 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SPEAKER: I have not adjourned the House. I am asking you what your question is. gÉÉÒ àÉÖãÉɪÉàÉ É˺Éc ªÉÉn´É (+ÉÉWÉàÉMÉfÃ) : +ÉÉ{É càÉå ºÉÆ®FÉhÉ xÉcÉÓ nä ®cÉÒ cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) +ÉÉ{É {ÉiÉÉ xÉcÉÓ BÉDªÉÉå xÉÉ®ÉVÉ cé? àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : àÉé xÉÉ®ÉVÉ xÉcÉÓ cÚÆ* àÉéxÉä BÉEcÉ cè ÉÊBÉE <ºÉ {É® ºÉÉiÉ PÉÆ]ä iÉBÉE SÉSÉÉÇ cÖªÉÉÒ cè* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ àÉÖãÉɪÉàÉ É˺Éc ªÉÉn´É (+ÉÉWÉàÉMÉfÃ) : àÉéxÉä {ÉÚ®É £ÉÉ−ÉhÉ ºÉÖxÉÉ cè* àÉéxÉä ABÉE ¤ÉÉ® £ÉÉÒ ¤ÉÉÒSÉ àÉå <Æ]®´ÉÉÒxÉ xÉcÉÓ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ cè* BÉE<Ç ¤ÉÉiÉå cé VÉÉä {ÉÚUÉÒ VÉÉ ºÉBÉEiÉÉÒ cé*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉÉäÉÊãÉA* I have not adjourned the House. gÉÉÒ àÉÖãÉɪÉàÉ É˺Éc ªÉÉn´É (+ÉÉWÉàÉMÉfÃ) : BÉÖEU º{É−]ÉÒBÉE®hÉ cÉä VÉɪÉäMÉÉ iÉÉä ºÉ®BÉEÉ® BÉEÉä cÉÒ ãÉÉ£É cÉäMÉÉ, càÉå ãÉÉ£É xÉcÉÓ cÉäMÉÉ* àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉÉäÉÊãÉA* àÉéxÉä +É£ÉÉÒ iÉBÉE cÉ=ºÉ AbVÉxÉÇ xÉcÉÓ ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ cè* ªÉc +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉä ÉÊBÉEºÉxÉä BÉEcÉ cè* gÉÉÒ àÉÖãÉɪÉàÉ É˺Éc ªÉÉn´É (+ÉÉWÉàÉMÉfÃ) : +ÉMÉ® +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ +ÉxÉÖàÉÉÊiÉ cÉä iÉÉä càÉ BÉÖEU {ÉÚUå* HON. SPEAKER: Yes. Why not? +ÉÉ{É ¤ÉÉäÉÊãÉA, àÉMÉ® lÉÉä½É ¤ÉÉäÉÊãÉA, BÉDªÉÉåÉÊBÉE <ºÉ {É® ºÉÉiÉ PÉÆ]ä SÉSÉÉÇ cÉä SÉÖBÉEÉÒ cè* 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 221 gÉÉÒ àÉÖãÉɪÉàÉ É˺Éc ªÉÉn´É (+ÉÉWÉàÉMÉfÃ) : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, MÉßcàÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ xÉä £ÉÉ−ÉhÉ iÉÉä ÉÊnªÉÉ ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ BÉE£ÉÉÒ-BÉE£ÉÉÒ àÉéxÉä näJÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ MÉßc àÉÆjÉÉÒ VÉÉÒ +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEä ãÉÉäMÉ BÉDªÉÉ BÉE®iÉä cé, ¤ÉnɪÉÚÆ BÉEä àÉÉàÉãÉä BÉEÉä ãÉäBÉE® ÉÊVÉºÉ iÉ®c ºÉä +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä, +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ {ÉÉ]ÉÔ, BÉEÉÄOÉäºÉ {ÉÉ]ÉÔ +ÉÉè® +ÉxªÉ nãÉÉå xÉä ºÉ´ÉÉãÉ =~ɪÉä iÉÉä ºÉÉÒ¤ÉÉÒ+ÉÉ<Ç +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ lÉÉÒ, ºÉÉÒ¤ÉÉÒ+ÉÉ<Ç ºÉä VÉÉÆSÉ ÉÊBÉEºÉxÉä BÉE®É<Ç? ÉÊBÉEºÉxÉä VÉÉÆSÉ BÉEÉ +ÉÉnä¶É ÉÊnªÉÉ, BÉEäxp ºÉ®BÉEÉ® xÉä VÉÉÆSÉ BÉEÉ +ÉÉnä¶É ÉÊnªÉÉ, +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® xÉä VÉÉÆSÉ BÉEä +ÉÉnä¶É ÉÊnA* +ÉÉ{É näÉÊJÉA ÉÊBÉE ¤ÉnɪÉÚÆ BÉEÉÒ ÉÊ®{ÉÉä]Ç àÉå ºÉÉÒ¤ÉÉÒ+ÉÉ<Ç xÉä BÉDªÉÉ ÉÊãÉJÉÉ cè? BÉDªÉÉ ®ä{É cÖ+ÉÉ lÉÉ, ºÉÉÒ¤ÉÉÒ+ÉÉ<Ç xÉä ÉÊãÉJÉÉ cè? +ÉÉ{ÉxÉä VÉ¤É +ÉÉ®Éä{É ãÉMÉÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ iÉÉä càÉÉ®ÉÒ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® xÉä {ÉÉÆSÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä VÉäãÉ àÉå £ÉäVÉÉ* +ÉÉ{ÉBÉEÉÒ {ÉÉ]ÉÔ xÉä +ÉÉ®Éä{É ãÉMÉÉ ÉÊnªÉÉ, iÉÉä càÉxÉä {ÉÉÆSÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä VÉäãÉ àÉå ÉÊ£ÉVÉ´ÉɪÉÉ, ãÉäÉÊBÉExÉ ºÉÉÒ¤ÉÉÒ+ÉÉ<Ç xÉä {ÉÉÆSÉ ãÉÉäMÉÉå BÉEÉä ÉÊxÉBÉEÉãÉ-¤ÉÉc® ÉÊBÉEªÉÉ +ÉÉè® =ºÉ ãɽBÉEÉÒ BÉEä ¤ÉÉ®ä àÉå BÉEcÉ ÉÊBÉE BÉEÉä<Ç ®ä{É xÉcÉÓ cÖ+ÉÉ cè* =ºÉBÉEä SÉSÉä®ä £ÉÉ<ªÉÉå xÉä cÉÒ ciªÉÉ BÉEÉÒ cè +ÉÉè® ´Éä VÉäãÉ àÉå cé* ...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) +ÉÉ{É ªÉc ¤ÉiÉÉ 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 222 àÉÉxÉxÉÉÒªÉ +ÉvªÉFÉ : ºÉ¤É ãÉÉäMÉ xÉcÉÓ {ÉÚUåMÉä* …(´ªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ ) gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc : +ÉvªÉFÉ àÉcÉänªÉÉ, gÉÉÒ àÉÖãÉɪÉàÉ É˺Éc VÉÉÒ xÉä VÉÉä BÉÖEU £ÉÉÒ BÉEcÉ cè, àÉé àÉÉxÉiÉÉ cÚÆ ÉÊBÉE ´Éc iÉlªÉÉå ºÉä {É®ä cè*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) gÉÉÒ àÉÖãÉɪÉàÉ É˺Éc ªÉÉn´É (+ÉÉWÉàÉMÉfÃ) : {É®ä xÉcÉÓ cè*...(BªÉ´ÉvÉÉxÉ) gÉÉÒ ®ÉVÉxÉÉlÉ É˺Éc : +É¤É ºÉÖxÉ ãÉÉÒÉÊVÉA* càÉÉ®É BÉEcxÉÉ cè ÉÊBÉE ªÉÉÊn BÉEcÉÓ {É® £ÉÉÒ ´ÉcÉÆ BÉEÉÒ ºÉÉàÉÉÉÊVÉBÉE ºÉàÉ®ºÉiÉÉ +ÉlÉ´ÉÉ ºÉÉà|ÉnÉÉʪÉBÉE ºÉÉècÉnÇ BÉEÉä iÉÉä½xÉä BÉEÉÒ BÉEÉäÉÊ¶É¶É cÉäiÉÉÒ cè iÉÉä ªÉc ®ÉVªÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® BÉEÉÒ |ÉlÉàÉiÉ : ÉÊVÉààÉänÉ®ÉÒ cÉäiÉÉÒ cè ÉÊBÉE =ºÉä ºÉÖÉÊxÉÉζSÉiÉ BÉE®xÉä BÉEä ÉÊãÉA VÉÉ ä £ÉÉÒ +ÉɴɶªÉBÉE BÉEnàÉ cÉå, ´Éc ®ÉVªÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® =~ÉA* ªÉc ®ÉVªÉ ºÉ®BÉEÉ® BÉEÉÒ ÉÊVÉààÉänÉ®ÉÒ cè ÉÊBÉE ´Éc BÉE®ä, BÉEäxp ºÉ®BÉEÉ® =ºÉàÉå BÉDªÉÉ BÉE® ºÉBÉEiÉÉÒ cè* HON. SPEAKER: Now, the House stands adjourned to meet again tomorrow the 2nd December, 2015 at 11 a.m. 1831 hours The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 / Agrahayana 11, 1937 (Saka). 01.12.2015 ::am/kvj Uncorrected / Not for Publication 223