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THE SENATE OF PAKISTAN DEBATES OFFICIAL REPORT Wednesday, September 22, 2010 (64th Session) Volume VIII No. 03 (Nos. 01-10) CONTENTS Pages 1. Recitation from the Holy Quran…………………………....… 1 2. Questions and Answers……………………………………..... 2-75 3. Leave of Absence………………………………………..…… 76 4. Further discussion on motion regarding unprecedented and devastating floods in the country………………………..…… 77-107 5. Point of order raised by Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haideri regarding absence of Haj Flight facilities to Balochistan people………………………………....................................… 108-109 Printed and Published by the Senate Secretariat, Islamabad. Volume VIII SP. VIII(03)/2010 No. 03 130 SENATE OF PAKISTAN SENATE DEBATES Wednesday, September 22, 2010 The Senate of Pakistan met in the Senate Hall (Parliament House) Islamabad at thirty seven minutes past four in the evening with Mr. Chairman (Mr. Farooq Hamid Naek) in the Chair. --------------- Recitation from the Holy Quran ‰ ‰ ‰ Ć ‰Ê‚ ş Ć Ć ‚ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ( ‰ ‰ ªƒª !121ª 32' 4‚ ‰ ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ 5 ‡#*+ !,-. ⁄ª‹ ‚  ‚ „ „ ‚ ! ª" #≈ « &ª &'ƒ‚ „ ‰ ‚ fl ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ª ªƒª‹ ‚ ‚ ?ƒ @" ⁄ª (‰ ş ‰ ‚ ‰ ≈261‹ µ91 ÷∆ª <,1 =ª ⁄ª ª‹1 ‹ª‰ ‰ ‰ ‚ ⁄&61 7 ‚  „ ‚‚‚‚‚„‚ ‚ ‚ ‚  „ „ ‚ > ‚‚ ‚ ‚ ‚ „ ‚ ‚ „ ‰ ş ‰ ‰ ‰ ‚ ‰ ‰ ‰ · ş ?ƒ (‚ ‰E,ª ª‹ Fª ‹ G6 @ 6ª ªƒ æ "‚ ‚‚ ‚ ‚ I  ‚ ş „ ‚ ş ‚ / &A1 Ÿ6 31C„ „ · ‚  ş ‚ ‰ P ‰ ‰ ‰ ⁄MKNª 7 ?O‹‚ „ „ ‚ ‰Qş „ª‹ =ª G‹ ⁄‹211 1JK L> ‚ ‚ ‚ „ ‰ „ ‚ ‚  ‚ Q „ „ V ‡ 8 7 V ] Q 8 Q Q ;<=>MN ;?@A;= BC;DE;3RU WXY5Z ;FBG;HB6 ST [^ X9 _ ;I;JAG;=6` \ OP ;KB;= S ;L@ : 3567 4 9 V Q 8 8 Q Q 8 ] ;I;dIZM ` ;=O ;d@;eA;I;f N XYiZ ;= N 4;EAg@;hP S jc ;= O ;a k7EIP ;FI b I c ;D Z ;a6 6` EA@ 8 Q 8 u Q 8 V Q Q oqor p_ v YT_ Y i ;I6` ;ay B;=6S P ( FIZM B xb);F@;=>M ;lp ;hX s ntN ;mI;fP XX @;;a;EA@;f6 6` Z ;= N B 6w Q Q Q 8 8 YT_ Yi Y i _ ;3;B• €•XS ~;fX ;=N ;FIr_ @;BX x P ;<fXXZZ ;=N BI;dIB;č@EI;eA;I;f6wZMX N R } N ;={ |Onw ;4;=P ;= T {;eA 8 8V Q 8 ( =>M ;B xMZ B;=ƒp w sc ;= P ;„ 6`);EA@;=>M ;BxRX9 ~;BC;e~BUZ WP ;‚EE;=> MsP ;B xw M B;=ƒp c ;= ;„6` ;L@ 8Q Q u ‡ˆ QQYiV c Y R V 8 Q 8 ;=s E;FB5xWX_ @;I6` ;f XZ ;FBX 9 BN ;= sP ;= ;FII;F@;f bc X ;d@;…WX Y 6S ;<=> M ;B x 9 X ~;4;†P x 9 8 8 8 ;F@Q );IP ;CU BW• ;EA@;‰B6 xq^ ;EA@;fXYi Z E;=N 4P ;@~@;Š ` ;B Ž ;d@;I P ;E@~;H@C69 • ;‹Œ@;„;p pN<fXYiZ u Y Q Q P 8 _ Q ;EA@;˘fXiZ ;HB6 c ’ ;=P ;‘gx• B “ E;m ;L@;I 6` ;=> MsP ;G”T 6 ;=c ;= ;FII;F@;3;˘ bc X S (Š` ;B Ž Q Y ] <fX iZ ;=c @A;= N B;~@C;•I;lpS ^ c Z A 8 8 8 —™( —™( BS ;—˜ ;‹BXS Œ@;:;KA4c @;eEI –) 1 Questions and Answers o` 7 š 6N u Q We may now take up ;<DX 4@;fcQ › k 4@;L@;D c ; :fQ XYR G”xX p` ; ‹B6 x6` ^ On his behalf question. ;l;˘;a67 6 ` B“ ;~Ikœ ;3•ž’ ;questions. Senator Dr. Muhammad Ismail Buledi: Question No.23. 23. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood: Will the Minister Incharge of the Cabinet Division be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that CDA has not started developmental work in sector I-11/2 Islamabad so far, if so, the reasons thereof; and (b) the time by which the said work will start? Minister Incharge of the Cabinet Division: (a) Possession of Sector I-11/2 remained with the affectees of Mouza Sorain, inspite of the earlier award dated 06-06-1975. Since the possession could not be retrieved and use of force was not an option. A package deal was negotiated with them and an award was announced on 08-06-2009. 85% possession was retrieved when some of affectees agitated against the award. The matter is pending in the Honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan and NAB Rawalpindi. Remaining 15% possession will be retrieved after finalization of NAB Inquiry and after the decision of the case by the Apex Court. (b) As above. Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary? ® ««« Q 8 P Q •› k ^ YxO ;…;HS 6 ;;IP ;d@;3• ;=>M ;BXxb ;B € p 7 I;3;°p N X S @I – ! ;?@A;‹B6 x6` ;:‘gXxn6S ;¬Xx @;g5œ ;G”• @~;G ”xX X Q Q Q Q u YT_ cQ Q Y i N « Y R ;B;B@4;f6wSX PX ;mB;= wO ;F@;f XZ ;³B;•I;I6 ´c 6 ` ;4;FBA;3p 9 Z iT• ;B ˆ ;= N ;a6 ` B “ ;G ”W ;˚;B;=²N B;B6 wX x P ;develop 2 8 Q 8 YQ u • ¹_ Y Y « _ ;=O ;°B5¶Yµ @;;= P ;HB;f• ’ XXR ;d@;EA@;=> M ;EIy ;4E;3X9 ·x¸ ;3;lX S 6 ;f R ;NAB ;EA@;fX R ;EIP ;DX Gp ”µ ;EA@;=>M ;BEZi V N Y pS u • Yi 8 YR Q Q ;„Œ@;;;EA@;=>p M ;„X E~;3·x¸ ;3;FBX S T67 ;fX Z ;sectors ;=O ;ar6_ ;fX ;~B6SŒ@;Kºµ @;;˘‹B6 x6` ;<=>M ;BE;BZ iwx6 ;BX P ;44X9 b QQ8 u • YRQQ YYY TiT_8 M _ ¹_ Q P 8 _ ž Y R ;<=>M ;;3·x¸ ;BXXxxP ;f;;FBXXXXX • E~;= PM ;F@;3;=> • ;f ;B xwSp 9 ;˘fZ ;=> s B;fp ;l6 ;B4;eA;=P O ;36 w A;m ;a»€6 ;lR ;;f Q 8 Q YR « O b oO Q < < ¾4P ;‹B6S ;=O ;FIbc I ;F@;4p 9 ;EI ¼ ;‘EI } ;;fX ;;G”½ Xx ;d@;=P ;~B6S Œ@;Kºµ @ =O ;mg Xx6q ;EA@;‘E@gS B5X_ @;CDA u Q <;fX9 4P ;°@I– ;‹Œ@;p :fQ XYR G”xX p` ;‹B6 x6` ® ««« Q QQQYi 8Q 8 8 •› k ^ YxO ;IP ;F@;fXZ ;‹B“ @G”¿ @;I 6 ` ;=P ;F@;= P 4P ;‹B6 S ;= O ;F@;:‘gXxn6S ;¬Xx @;g 5 œ ;G”• @~;G ”xX X u u Q u Q 8YSc Q 8 Y S 8 « Y R develop ;IP ;F@;…S ;H6P ;EA@;=b ;fXX @4P ;m Bw ;… S ;H 6 P ;I P ;d@;3• ;f B x“69 ;a6 ` B ;G”W ;EA@;;= N B6 wx ;BX P ;EA~ 8 Q Q Y_ 9 <;B² ;= >M E;pending ;;3;‰C;d@;I;;=>X S¼ N M ;fXXT ;4@;EA@;=b b ;f4;3 P · ÀXs} ;B;=Ž N 4; P Q V « YR 7 Q u ` Q <;aB6`“ ;G”W ;l<;aB6 6 ` “ ;‘gX x n6S ;;;34X S |µ ;:fXYR G”xX p ;‹B6 x6` u Q Q Q « O u Q Q V Q Q ;G”½ Xx ;d@;fXYR ;1985 ! fQ XYR G”xX p` ;‹B6 x6` :( ;3xXY6S B;=Ž N @4;;G69 X ”W •) ¬;;l² žÁ CÂsÃy ;;e~@4@I69 N u b YR ˆ 8c Q 8 ;=s ;= c ;f;X Superior Courts ;IP ; case ;;d@;•I;Äcpq ;EA@;B€x_ ;BXXb ;I;mBZZ M w ;EA@;B €x _ ;B b ;I; M award BŽ Q Q c Q ] Yi ;mBw ;IP ;d@;;DZ ;H6 P ;3 • How can I give a date <=>M ;BXxc;=c ; stay ;=N ;FIr_ @;EA@;f X Z u <;=b ;fXYS @4 P Caring the court as soon as the stay is vacated we will see. Q V Q Q Y ` u ` Q <aB6 ` “ ;‘EB • 6_ ;fX W ;GX ”S ;;˘3X S 4|µ ;:fQ XYR G”xX p ;‹B6 x6` Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari (Leader of the House): As soon as the matter heads to Islamabad. ¹_ 8 ¹_ and I would ask the ;=>M ;l6 ;; observation ;…@;‘GX S X ”Æ ;EA@;B€_ ;BŒ@;lX S6 ;‹@I6 6` ;B Ž ;d@ 8 Y ;EA@;B€_;@IZM ;f X R award 1975 ;;3X S ;honourable Advisor also to look into it. Sir, Q 8 «« ® YR Why? Whereas the property was <;=>M ;BxX9 ~;~E@IXN @;;BX x 9 ;…X S @¾@;‘~;l ;fX ; 2009 vested with the CDA at that time. Compensation was given to the affectees at time. How come! they have given again payment to the ;3X S ;4b @;; affectees of those areas. Sir, this is a very important thing. 8 u V Q Q 8 V Yi b sÈ « O ` ;I;fNX Z ;=s ;I;JAGZ M \ ;= N I;=ZMÃ Ç ;4;FAGp9 ”½\Xx ;¾G A~;;= P ;~BŒ@;Kº6S µ @;‰C¼ ;„6 ;;I;;B NX x b ;I;JAG ZM \ ;trend 3 u V « Y Q •« 8 š P ;@469 ; IP ; d@; EA@; fX É ; possession ;B;F@;@;3;B;=p • ²wN B;I;KB;¬6 ZMt¸ ;@4;=69 sc ;= P ;aI• | w ;l ;;3X S Q Y_ Q Q « 8 9 ;IP ;d@;<;=>M ;fXXT ;a6 O Bx• ;B4 S P ;;~E@I@;3X N 6 x9 C;;A~;˘A~;;=ƒ^ sc ;= P ;;3Ê w6 ;…@;3X S • ;f 4 P ;seriously examine u <;=N B;B6wX x P ;examine Q V Q Q Q Q nwY T _ t¸• ž y Q ;MNA ;=O = Ë ;d@;‹Œ@;EA@;=>p M ;BXxb ;I;3;3ZM X S ½ ·6S ;fX ;B ² ;I;¬ZM ;3;X S:;¬;l² Á CÂsà ;e~@4@I69 N uQ 8 Y Y_ cQ Q |c Y Y <f X R 1975 ;;=N I;fZZMXXT ;mB;fwXx ;f iZ ;= N B;I;6 w M awards ;3X S ;<;fX iZ ;=>M E Q ˆ Ì Q u Q u Q ;<;fXY€ E;;CjN ;g;IR P ;d@;=>M ;‘~;= N @E;= N ;FI r_ @;I 6 ` ;:fQ XYR G”xX p` ;‹B6 x6` Nawabzada Ghazanfar Ali Gul: Insha Allah we will look into this « <=b ;f XYÉ;B€o69 ;IP ;F@;EA@Q « •› k® V Q u ` Q ;°@I– ;4;d@Bp9 Ž ;;‹Œ@;ap 6` B “ ;3€op` <;a 6 ` B “ ;‘gX x n6S ;;¬ Xx @;;°@I– ;º² @;˘;3X S 4|µ ;:fXYR G”xX p ;‹B6 x6` Q <;=>M V Q Q Q QQ« Q oc okÎ « Q ` o•N « Y O ;46` ?;askX EB;3pS • ;=>M ;dE@4;3;‘G bX S X ”Æ ;<;=> M ;°@I– ;l ;4;d@;p 9 :3€op` ;fXYW ;DX ;G ”xX Xx Q P ¹_ Q PQ Yi P _ Y i ;‘E@~;3Æ ~;m ;CDA ;l6 ;B4;°BS€P 6 _ ;Ä|XS ~;;m ;F@;fXXZZ ;;FBEBXXX SxP ;m ;FIIc ‡ p ;B;f S ;grassy plots ;I6` ;= P ;<;=>M Mr.