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Thursday, November 2, 1995 CANADA VOLUME 133 S NUMBER 253 S 1st SESSION S 35th PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Thursday, November 2, 1995 Speaker: The Honourable Gilbert Parent CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) The House of Commons Debates and the Proceedings of Committee evidence are accessible on the Parliamentary Internet Parlementaire at the following address: http://www.parl.gc.ca 16107 HOUSE OF COMMONS Thursday, November 2, 1995 The House met at 10 a.m. Discepola Dromisky Duhamel Dupuy _______________ Easter Eggleton English Fewchuk Finestone Flis Prayers Fontana Fry Gaffney Gagliano _______________ Gagnon (Bonaventure—Îles–de–la–Madeleine) Gallaway Gerrard Godfrey Goodale Graham Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) Grose GOVERNMENT ORDERS Guarnieri Harvard Hickey Hopkins [English] Hubbard Iftody Irwin Jackson Keyes Kirkby AGRICULTURE AND AGRI–FOOD ADMINISTRATIVE Knutson Lastewka MONETARY PENALTIES ACT Lavigne (Verdun—Saint–Paul) Lee Loney MacAulay The House resumed from November 1 consideration of the MacDonald Maclaren Malhi Maloney motion that Bill C–61, an act to establish a system of administra- Manley Marchi tive monetary penalties for the enforcement of the Canada Marleau Massé McCormick McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord–Ouest) Agricultural Products Act, the Feeds Act, the Fertilizers Act, the McWhinney Milliken Health of Animals Act, the Meat Inspection Act, the Pest Minna Murphy Control Products Act, the Plant Protection Act and the Seeds Nault O’Reilly Parrish Patry Act, be read the third time and passed. Payne Peric Peters Phinney The Speaker: It being 10 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order Pickard (Essex—Kent) Pillitteri 45, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred Proud Reed Rideout Robichaud division at third reading stage of Bill C–61, an act to establish a Robillard Rock system of administrative monetary penalties for the enforce- Scott (Fredericton—York—Sunbury) Serré Shepherd Simmons ment of the Canada Agricultural Products Act, the Feeds Act, Speller St. Denis the Fertilizers Act, the Health of Animals Act, the Meat Inspec- Stewart (Brant) Stewart (Northumberland) tion Act, the Pest Control Products Act, the Plant Protection Act Szabo Taylor Telegdi Terrana and the Seeds Act. Tobin Ur Vanclief Verran Call in the members. Walker Wells Whelan Wood (The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the Zed—125 following division:) (Division No. 364) NAYS YEAS Members Members Adams Alcock Anawak Assadourian Abbott Ablonczy Augustine Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud–Centre) Asselin Bachand Baker Bakopanos Bélisle Bellehumeur Beaumier Bélair Benoit Bergeron Bélanger Bellemare Bernier (Gaspé) Bridgman Bertrand Bethel Brien Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud–Est) Bevilacqua Blaikie Caron Chatters Bonin Boudria Chrétien (Frontenac) Crête Brushett Bryden Calder Campbell Cummins Dalphond–Guiral Cannis Catterall de Savoye Debien Cauchon Chamberlain Deshaies Dubé Clancy Cohen Duceppe Dumas Collenette Collins Duncan Epp Cowling Crawford Fillion Frazer Culbert DeVillers Gagnon (Québec) Gauthier Dhaliwal Dingwall Gouk Grey (Beaver River) 16108 COMMONS DEBATES November 2, 1995 Routine Proceedings Grubel Guimond The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Maheu): The hon. member for Hanger Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) Harper (Simcoe Centre) Harris Calgary West has the floor on a point of order. Hart Hayes Hermanson Hill (Macleod) [English] Hill (Prince George—Peace River) Hoeppner Kerpan Lalonde Landry Laurin Mr. Harper (Calgary West): Madam Speaker, I rise on a Leblanc (Longueuil) Leroux (Shefford) point of order. If I understand the motion correctly, it is to not Loubier Marchand Mayfield McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud–Ouest) debate the issue of the international laws that pertain to the Ménard Mercier recognition of Quebec’s right to self–determination. As it is Mills (Red Deer) Morrison Nunez Paré obvious from the statements from the Bloc that we will be Penson Picard (Drummond) debating this in the future, we in the Reform Party believe it is Pomerleau Ringma Rocheleau Sauvageau important that Parliament, which is representative of all of Silye Solberg Canada, have a chance to debate this issue. Therefore we will Speaker St–Laurent Strahl Thompson not agree to dropping this off the Order Paper. Tremblay (Rimouski—Témiscouata) Tremblay (Rosemont) White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) White (North Vancouver)—76 [Translation] PAIRED MEMBERS The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Maheu): We do not have unani- Bouchard Canuel mous consent, therefore. Ianno Jacob Jordan MacLellan (Cape/Cap–Breton—The Sydneys) McGuire Plamondon * * * Thalheimer Venne PETITIONS D (1025 ) SMALL AND MEDIUM SIZE BUSINESSES The Speaker: I declare the motion carried. (Bill read the third time and passed.) Mr. Ronald J. Duhamel (St. Boniface, Lib.): Madam Speak- er, I have the honour of presenting this petition on small and Mr. Chan: Mr. Speaker, if my plane had been on time I would medium size businesses. have voted with the government. [English] _____________________________________________ Almost everyone knows that small and medium size busi- nesses in Canada are important to job creation and are important to the quality of life of Canadians. These petitioners are simply ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS requesting that whenever governments make decisions that could impact on small and medium size businesses they recog- [Translation] nize the importance they have for Canada in terms of jobs and in terms of adding to the quality of life. GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO PETITIONS BOVINE GROWTH HORMONE Mr. Peter Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speak- Mr. Lyle Vanclief (Prince Edward—Hastings, Lib.): Mad- er, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), I have the honour to table, am Speaker, I would like to table a petition from 33 Canadians in in both official languages, the government’s response to two the Prince Edward—Hastings area calling on Parliament to take petitions. steps to keep the bovine growth hormone out of Canada by legislating a moratorium on the use and sale of the bovine * * * growth hormone until the year 2000 and examining the outstand- ing health and economic questions through an independent and PRIVATE MEMBERS’ BUSINESS—MOTION M–473 transparent review. Mr. Réal Ménard (Hochelaga—Maisonneuve, BQ): Mad- D (1035) am Speaker, I would like to seek the House’s assent to change [Translation] Motion No. 473 for Motion No. 474 on the order of priorities for private members’ business. I seek the consent of the House in HUMAN RIGHTS this. Mr. Réal Ménard (Hochelaga—Maisonneuve, BQ): Mad- The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Maheu): Does the House give its am Speaker, I have the honour to present a petition from several unanimous consent? hundred persons, young people who are demanding that the Some hon. members: Agreed. Canadian government amend the Canadian Human Rights Act to include sexual orientation as the tenth illegal reason for discrim- Some hon. members: No. ination. November 2, 1995 COMMONS DEBATES 16109 Routine Proceedings I enthusiastically support this petition and trust that the [Translation] government will act it on expeditiously. [English] DIVORCE ACT INCOME TAX ACT Mr. Robert Bertrand (Pontiac—Gatineau—Labelle, Lib.): Madam Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36, it is my Mr. Paul Szabo (Mississauga South, Lib.): Madam Speaker, pleasure today to present a petition signed by 111 residents of pursuant to Standing Order 36, I wish to present a petition that Labelle County in my riding. has been circulating all across Canada. This portion of the petition has been signed by a number of Canadians from The petition is about an issue that concerns many Canadians. Stratford, Ontario. It asks Parliament to amend the Divorce Act by including a provision identical to section 611 of the Quebec Civil Code, The petitioners would like to draw to the attention of the which provides that parents cannot, without serious grounds, House that managing the family home and caring for preschool interfere with a child’s personal relationship with its grandpar- children is an honourable profession, which has not been ents and that if no agreement can be reached by the parties, the recognized for its value to our society. They also state that the terms of this relationship shall be determined by the court. Income Tax Act discriminates against families that make the choice to provide care in the home to preschool children, the disabled, the chronically ill or the aged. * * * The petitioners therefore pray and call upon Parliament to [English] pursue initiatives to eliminate tax discrimination against fami- lies that decide to provide care in the home for preschool QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER children, the disabled, the chronically ill or the aged. Mr. Peter Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to Leader of PARLIAMENTARY PRAYERS the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Madam Speaker, Question No. 239 will be answered today. Mr. Peter Adams (Peterborough, Lib.): Madam Speaker, I have a petition from citizens of the city and county of Peterbo- [Text] rough. The petitioners state that whereas the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Lord’s Prayer have been included in the Question No. 239—Mr. White (Fraser Valley West): historic parliamentary prayer of the House of Commons since Concerning CPC, for the most recent available 12–month period, (a) what 1867; and whereas Canada was founded and built upon the was the detailed cost breakdown of all expenditures on hospitality for customers principles of Christianity and a large majority of Canadians
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