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RECESS. TEXAS. Mr. STONE. I move that the Senate take a recess until' to­ John E . . Astin, Bryan. morrow at 12 o'clock noon. Milton W. Cunningham. Amarillo. The motion was agreed to; and (at 5 o'clock and 50 minutes Jack Dies, Beaumont. p. m., Monday, February 15, 1915) the Senate took a recess Mary. K Hartson, Kyle.. until to-morrow, Tuesday, February 16, 1915. at 12 o'clock Daniel F. Largent, Bridgeport. meridian. VF.RMONT. Henry.B. Parkhurst, jr., North Troy.. CONFIR!\fATIONS. WASHINGTON.. E xccutire nominations confirrned- by the Senate Febr·uary15,1915. D-. L. Beeke;,, Lynden. UNITED STATES ATTORNEY. C. E. Hancoek, Selah. John F~ A. Mernll to be United States attorney for the dis­ Elmer McBroom, Chehalis. trict of Maine. WYOMING. POSTMASTERS. Charles T. Sherbno, Sunrise. CALIFORNIA. WEST VIRGINIA. George E. Alexander, Hayward. Frederick H. M-abey, Ra1nelle. Joseph Galewsky, St. Helena. M. T. Morrison, Sutton. · J. I. C. Kennedy, Mountain View. P. E. Nixon, Paw Paw. Owen Kenny, Calistoga. R. G. Oxley, Athens. Evelyn Mitchell, Dos Palos. Turner A. Wamsley, Parsons. Pete!"" D. Mcintyre, Blythe. Henry W. Nash, Stirling City. John R. Snead, Dixon. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. J. V. Swift, Redwood City. · W. W. Ware, Fort Bragg. MoNDAY, February 15, 1915. COLORADO. The Honse met at 11 o'clock a. m. William D Richa1·dson, Oak Creek. The Chaplain, Rev. Henry N. Couden, D. D., offered the fol· Q. W. McKinley, Ault. lowing prayer: . CONNECTICQ'l'". We thank Thee, our Father in Heaven, that amid all the _changing scenes of life Thou art permanent. We are the mov* Thomas H. Collins, Farmington. : ing procession. Thou art the same yesterday, to-day, and Alexander Gilman, Putnam. forever. We may pause, even retrograde, but Thy love stands Hugh Hearns, Naugatuck. · waiting with beckoning hand to lure us onward and upward William S. Meany, Greenwich, · to permanency of character in righteousness, truth, justice~ David A. Wilson, Hartford, ~ mercy; purity; for Thou art God- IDAHO. " That God, whiclL ever lives and loves ; Everett Noble, Shoshone. One God, one law, one element, HAWAII. And one far-oil' divine event; Henry A. J-nen, Waipahu. To which the whole creation moves." INDIANA.. So may we trust and advance under the leadership of tha · _Master. Amen. Alvin ID. Hauk:, Morristown. The Journals of the proceedings of Saturday, February 13~ Charles F. Ill, Notre Dame. 1915, and Sunday, February 14, 1915, were read and approved. Frank L. Lashley, Centerville. William Marmaduke, Wingate. BRIDGE .ACROSS SUWANEE RIVER. John W. Wright, Brookston. Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker~ the RECORD of Saturday in boili KENTUCKY. · the Senate and the House proceedings shows that Senate bill W. L. Hale, Mayfield. 7555, an act to authorize the construction of a bridge across the-Suwanee River in. the State of Florida, was sighed by the LOUISIANA~ Speaker and the Vice President as an en~·olled bill. The Senate F. H. Gosman, Shreveport. bill, with a siniilar House bill, was reported on Saturday. Ii H. J. Nelson, .Vinton. do. not think that the. Journal shows that it passed the- House. MICHIGAN. If it passed the House at any time, it has not been shown by, Mark Boyd, McBain. . the proceedings here. . John Dunham, Daggett. _ .Mr. AD.Alt!SON. · Mr. Speaker, tlie fact is, if the gentleman Samuel McClellan, Springport. . will permit, the House bill was reported by the committee on Merton N. Wolcott, North Adams. Friday,, and after the committee had adjourned the Senate bill MINNESOTA:. came over to the committee too late to report it out at that M. J. O'Laughlln, Lake City. meeting... So the i.act. is ·that the House bill stands on the MISSISSIPPL calendar reported by the committee, and the Senate bill has · been referred to the committee and has been. unacted upon. Thomas A. . Chapman, Leakesville. Mr~ MANN. But the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD shows, On page MISSOURI. 3762·in the HouSe proceedings, that' the bill had been signed by William T. Dameron, Huntsville. the Speaker as an enrolled bill. · · - NEW HAMPSHIRE. 1\Ir. ADAM.SOR ·- That ought to be corrected. Ferdinand French, Pittsfield. Mr. MANN. The RECORD also shows in the Sen2.te· proceed· ings on page 3696 that the bill was messaged from the House NEVADA. to the Senate as having been signed by the Speaker and that it J. Lester Denton, Caliente. was thereupon signed by· the Vice President. omo. Mr. ADAMSON. I have no doubt that was some other bill; Levi E. Bierer, McComb. and that a mistake of identity has been made. Joseph E. Blackford, Martins Ferry'~ Mr. MANN. But in each case the title of the bill io gh-en; James W. Stoneburner, Roseville. I. correctly. Mr. ADAMSON. It is not the fact. OKLAHOMA. . · Mr. MANN. That is the reason I am calling attention to it. Caesar F. Simmons, Boley. If, as a matter of fact, it was- sent over by inadvertence---:--t OTIEGO_N. · The SPEAKER. It was. Lizzie M. Perkins, Gardiner. Mr. MANN. It ought to be recalled. TENNESSEE;. The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman make a motion to that ~ct? . D. M. Brumit., Elizabethton. Mr~ MANN. I ask unanimous consent that the Senate be re~ L. H. Hammond, M01llltpleasa-nt• . quested tO return the. bill to the Ho~se. 3796 CONGRESSIONAL -RECORD...:..:: HOUSE. FEBRUARY

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois asks unani­ S. 7213. An act granting pensions and increase· of I)ensions mous consent that the Senate be notified of. the situation and to certain soldiers and sailors of the Civil War and certain that they be requested to return the bill to the House: Is there widows and dependent relati'res of such soldiers and sailors; objection? [After a pans~.] The Chair hears none, and it is and so ordered. . S. 7402. An act granting pensions and increase of pensions l\Ir. ADAMSON. That bill did not get reported in . time to to certain soldiers and sailors of the Civil War and certain be put upon the Calendar for Unanimous Consent, but I hope widows and dependent relatives of such soldiers and sailors. that we will be permitted to pass it to-day notwithstanding. SEN ATE BILL REFERRED. CALENDAR FOB UNANIMOUS CONSENT. Under clause 2, Rule XXIV, Senate bill of the following title The SPEAKER. The business in order to-day is the Cal­ was taken from the Speaker's table and referred to its up­ endar for Unanimous Consent, and the. Chair repeats a request propria te committee, as indicated below : he made about this calendar on several occasions. If a gen­ S. 2i89. An act to award the medal of honor to l\Iaj. John 0. tleman has made up his mind resolutely ·to object to a bill, the Skinner, surgeon, United States Army, retired-to the Commit­ Chair requests that he make his objection immediately after tee on Military Affairs. the reading of the title. The Clerk will call the first bill on BRIDGE ACROSS ST. LOUIS RIVER./ the Calendar for Unanimous Consent. The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent BRIDGE ACROSS ST. LOUIS RIVER, BETWEEN WISCONSIN AND MINNE­ was the bill (H. n. 15727) authorizing the county of St. Louis SOTA. to construct a bridge across the St. Louis River between l\Iin:. The first business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent ne ota and Wisconsin. was the bill H. R. 17762, to amend an act approved February The SPEAKER. Is there objection? 20, 1908, entitled "An act to authorize the Interstate Transfer l\fr. LEl\TROOT. Mr. Speaker, I object. Railway Co. to construct a bridge across the St. Louis River The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisc·onsin objects, and between the States of Wisconsin and Minnesota." both of these bills are stricken from the calendar. · Mr. MILLER. Mr. Speaker, this bill has been read at u Mr. ADAMSON. I want to observe, while the gentlemen s2em previous time, and I think it is not necessary to read it again. to be even, this is not getting us anywhere. I ask unanimous consent that present consideration be given Mr. MILLER. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object-­ to H. R. 17762, the bill just reported, and also to H. R. 15727, The SPEAKER. There is nothing before the· House. · authorizing the county of St. Louis to construct a bridge across Mr. MILLER. We can objec~ t~ a great m11ny ·of these bills. the St. Louis River between Minn'esota and Wisconsin, and also CONSTRUCTION OF TWO. JlEVENUE CUTTERS. S. 5325, authorizing the county oi St. Louis to construct a bridge The business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent was across the St. Louis River between Minnesota and Wisconsin. the bill (H. R. 18876) to provide for the construction of two I ask unanimous consent that all three of these bills be con- revenue cutters. · sidered at this time. · The title was read. .Mr. BORLAND. Mr. Speaker, that is exactly what would Mr. MANN. l\lr. Speaker, I object. happen in the calling of the Calendar in the regular way. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois objects, and Mr. MILLER. I want to know now whether unanimous con­ the bill is ordered stricken from the calendar. sent is to be given to the consideration of each one of the three: Mr. BORLAND. How could the gentleman know ttat? TO AMEND THE ACT · TO REGULATE COMMERCE. Mr. MILLER. We certainly can know it if the House agrees The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent to it at this time. was the bill (H. R. 20496) to amend section 15 of the act to Mr. BORLAND. Are these three all for _the same bridge? regulate commerce, as amended June 29, 1906, and June 18, 1\Ir. MILLER. No; two are for the same bridge and one is 1910. not · The Clerk read the title of the bill. Mr. BORLAND. What is the connection between them? . The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Mr. l\IILLER. I tJPnk there is no connection whatever be­ Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I object. tween them. There are other gentlemen who think that there 'Ule SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois objects, and is a connection, and I therefore make this request in respect to the bill is ordered stricken from the calendar.· them all. SALE OF LAND TO TOWN OF TEMPE, ARIZ. Mr. ADAMSON. l\Ir. Speaker, while it has not appeared to the committee that there was any necessary or proper conflict The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent between the two propositions, yet the alignment bas been such was the bill (H. R. 11253) authorizing the Secretary of the that there are gentlemen on each side who do not want consent Interior to sell to the town of Tempe, Ariz., a tract of land to be given for one to pass until they know the other will pass. containing road-making material. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Minnesota asks unani­ The Clerk read the title of the bill. mous consent that all three . of the bills referred to 'be con­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection? sidered. l\fr. STAFFORD. l\!r. Speaker, reserving the right to object, l\Ir. ADAMSON. They are all upon the same subject. I am inclined to object to this bill unless some very good Mr. LENROOT. I object. Let us take them up in their reason can be advanced. Mr. FERRIS. 1\Ir. Speaker, the author of the bill is not bei·e. orde~ . The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. LEN­ but this bill only involves a yery small tract; but I have not the facts fresh in my memory. ROOT] obje~ts. Is there objection to the present consideration of the bill H. R. 17762, which the Clerk has reported? Mr. STAFFORD. The report says this is part of a monu­ Mr. MILLER. I object. The gentleman from Wisconsin ment and it might affect the scenic beauty of that monument. [Mr. LENROOT] objects to the consideration of his own bill, and l\Ir. Speaker, I object. I object to this. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisconsin objects, and The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the next bill on the the bill is ordered stricken from the calendar. Calendar. FALSE ADVERTISING IN THE DISTRICT OF ,C<;>LUMBIA. MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent A message from the Senate, by Mr. Tulley, one of its clerks, was the bill (H. R. 4931) to prevent false advertising in the announced that the Senate had passed bill of the following District of Columbia. title, in which the concurrence of the House of Representatives The Cle-rk read the title of the bill. }Vas requested : The SPEAKER. Is there objection? S. 2789. An act to award the medal of honor to Maj. John Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, this 0. Skinner, surgeon, United States Army, retired. bill, I see, provides a jury shall determine the penalty. Is thnt The message also announced that the Senate had disagreed the case in the District of.Columbia in ether matters? It pro­ to the amendments of the House of Representatives to bills of vides a jury shall determine the penalties. the following titles, as}red a conference with the House on the Mr. JOHNSON of Kentucky. Mr. Speaker, I will say to the disagreeing votes of the two Houses thereon, and bad appointed gentleman that after the bill was reported s.ome . inaccuracies Mr. SHIVELY, Mr. JoHNSON, and l\fr. SHERMAN as the conferees were found in it, and it has been carried along with a view that on the part of the Senate: they might be perfected by the author of the bill, but we have S. 6980. An act granting pensions and increase of· pensions not yet corrected them. to certain soldiers and sailors of the Civil War and certain Mr. MANN. l\Ir. Speaker, I ask that the bill be passed oyer widows and dependent relnti'res of such soldiers and sailors; without prejudice. · · · ' j I 1915. CONGRESSIONAL RECOR.D-HOUSE; 3797

Th~ SPEAKER,. 1-'he gentlem&n from Illinois asks that this Ur! BORLAND. Mr. Speaker, reserving the rlght to object, bill be passed without prejudice. Is there objection? [After I would like to inquire of the gentleman from Colorado; we a pause.] The Chair hears none. have just established a national park out iil Colorado-- · BRIDGE ACROSS ST. LOUIS RIVER BETWEEN MINNESOTA.. AND Mr. FITZGERALD. The Rocky Mountain Park. WISCONSIN. Mr. KEATING. This is not intended to establish a new national park. The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent Mr. BORLAND. Practically; it is to enlarge one. was the bill (S. 5325) authorizing the county of St: Louis to .Mr. KEATING. No; that is not the idea. It is simply to construct a bridge across the St. Louis River between Minnesota carry out a policy of the Forestry Service which is cooperating and Wisconsin. with towns in the mining sections of Colorado and other West· The Clerk read the title of the bill. ern States for the purpose of safeguarding the water supply. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? This bill takes into the forest a sufficient amount of ground to Mr. LENROOT. Mr. Speaker, I object. safeguard the water supply of a stream that furnishes the city The SPEAKER. The gentleman objects, and the bill is or­ of Idaho Springs with water. If this bill is passed, the For­ dered stricken from the calendar. estry Service will enter into a contract with the city of ·Idaho - FEDERAL BUIT.DING, POCATELLO, IDAHO. Springs by which that particular district will be regulated, and The next business on the Calendar for Unanimo.us Consent the matter of pasturing cattle in that district-and other ques­ was the bill ( S. 4920) to increase the cost of construction of tions affecting the safeguarding of the city's water supply will the Federal building at Pocatello, Idaho. be taken up and an agreement entered into by which the city The Clerk read the title of the bill. will probably pay a part of the cost of policing the district. The SPEAKER. Is there objection. Mr. BORLAND. What progress has been made by the city Mr. BORLAND and Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, I object. toward assuming these burdens? It seems to be for their Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Will the gentleman withhold his ob- benefit. · jection? Mr. KEATING. If the city does not do it, the Forest Serv­ 1\Ir. BORLAND. I will withhold my objection if the gentle- ice will not be obligated. man desires to submit a statement. - .Mr. BORLAND. Is it anything more than retaining these / Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Mr. Speaker, I :yvish-to call attention lands? to the fact that this bill provides for an increase in t]le app~·o­ Mr. KEATING. It simply includes them in the forest reserve. priation for the Federal building at Pocatello, where work Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, I object has already been begun, the basement being completed ; but PAYMENT OF PENSION SURGEONS. work was suspended about eight months ago, with the expecta­ The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent tion of getting an additional appropriation. The population of was House joint resolution No. 294, providing for payment of the town has increased very materially since the original appro­ surgeons making examination at claimant's home in connec­ priation was made, and the present building is not in con­ tion with claim pending in the Bureau of Pensions. formity with the improvements of the city and the growing The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the consideration of community around it. the bill? An appropriation of $100,000 for this building was made in Mr. MANN. I object. the Sixty-second Congress; but because of the increase in the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Dlinois objects, and price of materials since the appropriation was made it was the Clerk will report the next bill. found that . a building which would furnish sufficient accom- modations for the Federal officers at Pocatello could not be APPLICATIONs FOB LETTERS PATENT, ETC. constructed for this amount, and the plans were modified and The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent a new contract let. Without this additional appropriation the was the bill H. R. 2036, to extend temporarily the time of filing building will necessarily have to be constructed of brick with applications for letters patent and registration in the Patent ) sandstone trimmings and terra cotta belt course, and it is be- Office. lieved that a Federal building in. a city of this size and impor- The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the consideration of tance, where so many Federal officers have quarters, should be the bill? constructed of stone. A new depot is being erected here at a Mr: MANN. Mr. Speaker, I object. cost of $250,000, which conveys an idea of the importance of the ADDITIONAL LAND DISTRICT IN CALIFORNIA.. city. The postal receipts for the last fiscal year were $30,467.46. 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. What was the original limit of cost? The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent .Mr. SMITH of Idaho. The original limit of cost was $100,000. was the bill H. R. 17388, creating an additional land district Mr. FITZGERALD. How large a population? in the State of California, embracing lands contained in the -Mr. SMITH of Idaho. About 12,000 population now. county of Imperial, and for other purposes. Mr. FITZGERALD. How much increase is asked? The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the consideration of Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Twenty-five thousand dollars. the bill? .Mr. FITZGERALD. It is too much. If you can not get a Mr. :MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, I object. building for $100,000 in a community of 12,000 people we ought The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois objects, and the to quit building public ~uildings. bill will be stricken from the calendar. The Clerk will report .Mr. STAFFORD. The report says this is to be used for other the next bill. purposes than a post office. NONA..PP.&A..ISEM:ENT OF MERCHANDISE, PEMBINA., N. DAK. Mr. FITZGERALD. I do not care if it is. The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent Mr. SMITH of Idaho. It is to be used for other purposes, was the bill S. 5449, to make Pembina, N. Dak., a port through including the Federal Court, the Forest Service, Weather which merchandise may be imported for transportation without Bureau, and· so forth. appraisement · Mr. BORLAND. 1\Ir. Speaker, I have no objection to the The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the consideration of gentleman from Idaho making his statement at that time as to the bill? the bill and ha'\'e them appear in the RECORD, but I feel that this Mr. BORLAND. Mr. Speaker, I object to that. is no time to increase these estimates, especially in a city of Mr. NO.R'rON. Mr. Speaker, I hope the gentleman will with· that size, and I object. If the gentleman wants to add anytJling hold his objection. to what he has already said he can go ahead. · 1\fr. BORLAND. Does the gentleman want to make a state- Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Mr. Speaker, I do not care, of course, ment? If so, I withhold my objection. to take up the time of the House if the gentleman insists on . Mr. NORTON. Yes; I would like to make a statement. I objecting. trust the gentleman will not be so indifferent to the welfare of 'The SPEAKER. Is there objection? • other portions of the country than his own as to object to this Mr. BORLAND. Mr. Speaker, I object. bill. There is_much need for this legislation, and I can not see The SPEAKER. The bill is ordered stricken from the cal- any reason why anyone should have an objection to giving the endar. · privilege of the first section of the act of June 1.0, 1.880, to this PIKE NATIONAL PARK. port. There is a great deal of freight coming-from Canada to The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent the port of Pembina and consigned to Duluth', Minneapolis, and was the bill (H. R. 18747) to reserve certain lands and to in- St. Paul, that can be better appraised at these ports than at corporate the same and make them part of the Pike National Pembina. And that is the purpose of this act. Forest. Mr. BORLAND. The gentleman will know by reference to The Clerk read the title of the bill. the previous history of this House that we passed a bill to ha.ve The SPEAKER. Is there objection? the Customs S~rvice reorganized, and under that.President •.raft 3798 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE~ FEBRUARY lo,.- reorganized that service and established certain distrlct.s, and: Mr. ADAMSON. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the Ji.Uthor of the \ he has aboli hed certain offices and centralized certain other bill to answer that question, the gentleman f1·om Iowa (l\Ir. divisions, and this is one of the attempts which are being made VOLLMER]. . I now constantly to add new ports of entry in addition to that The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Iowa [Mr. VoLLMER] system. . is recognized for five minutes. Mr. NORTON. The gentleman apparently has not read this Mr. STAFFORD. I am yielding, Mr. Speaker, for an answer bill at all. to .my question. Mr. BORLAl-.TD. This is a new port of entry. 1\!r. VOL~ER. I will say to the gentleman frotp. Wisconsiot l\fr. MANN. The gentleman is mistaken~ This does not Mr. Speaker, that this is a bill in which the people of Musca­ affect the reorganization at all. tine, in the district I have the honor to represent, and across .Mr. BORLA:J\"0. This adds a new port of entry. the river, in the district of the gentleman from Illinois [Mr• Mr. MANN. Not at aU. We have passed a great many of TAVENNER], are very much interested. They )lave sent eorn.nlu7 the e. It is only a matter of convenience for the Treasury nications from their commercial bodies and their boards of Department and importers. It does not add anything whatever supervisors and the City Council of Muscatine and prominent to the expense of the Gosernment. It does not create a new people there vouching for this measure~ that it is not a scheme district, and it does not affect the reorganization. of promotion, or anything of that kind, but a proposition that is Mt·. BORLAND. Is the gentleman prepared to say that this intended to bring electric railway communication between the does not add anything to the e:q>ense of the Government? two sides of the river; and they hope and believe that as soon Mr. MAN . It does not. as the money market eases up they will be able to make. ar· 1\Ir. BORLAND. How can that be, providing for appraise. rangements to get their money and get an electric road to c1·oss ment at a port where no· appraisement has heretofore been had? this bridge. Mr. MANN. There is no moTe expense in appraising it there Mr. STAFFJRD. 'when was the company formed for this than there ts about appraising it at the other place. purpose? Mr. BORLAl\'D. That is a mere mattel' of conjecture. Mr. VOLLMER. I think three or fom· months ago. Mr. MANN. We frequently have had that report from the Mr. STAFFORD. Are there any substantial backers be .. Treasury Department. I do· not speak from personal expe­ hind it? · I rience. We passed all these bills that have been recommended ·Mr. VOLLMER. Yes; Kansas City peoJ;>le and Muscatine " by the Treasury Departwent and by the Committee on Ways people are back of this project,, and they are said to be entirely;, and Means. It does not affect the reorganization in any sense responsible. whatever. If it did, I wo.uld objeet. Mr~ ADAMSON. Question. 1\Ir. BORLAND. It evidently enlarges the reorganization The SPEAKER. The question is, on the engrossment and plan. third reading of the bill. . · Mr. MANN. Oh, not at all. The bill was ordered t01 be engrossed and read a third time, Mr. NORTON. It certainly does not. was read the third time, and passed. . Mr. BORLAND. I have not any objection to the gentleman On motion of Mr. ADAMSON, a motion to reconsider the vot~ putting a statement in the RECORD. whereby the bill was passed was laid on the table. Mr. NORTON. I do not care at all about making a state­ The SP!DAKER. The. Clerk will report the next one. lD.ent. I want this bill passed, and I. think it should pass. It does not add a cent of expense to tbe Government, INTERNATIONAL DRY·FARMING ·cONGRESS. Mr. BORLAND. I expect to object to its passage under .The next business on the Calendar for Unanjmous Consent Wfi.&. unanimous consent, I will say to the gentleman. If he wants the joint resolution (H. J. Res. 382) authorizing the President to, to. offer anything else, it is all right. extend invitations to other nations to send representatives tQ Mr. NORTON. Wby do you object to it? . the International Dry·Farmiug Congre~, to be held at Denver,. Mr. BORLAND. Because I d01 not think it p-roperly belongs. · Colo.~ September 27 to October 8, inclusive. 1915 on the Unanimous Consent Calendar. The title of the joint resolution was read. 1\Ir, NORTON. Has the gentleman read_the bill? The SPEAKER. Is there objection? . Mr. BORLAND. I have not. There was no objection. Mr. NORTON. I think the gentleman ought t~ read it be- The SPEAKER.. The Clerk will report the jqint resolution. fore assuming the responsibUity of objecting The Qlerk read as follows: I 1\ir. 1\IANN. will say to the gentleman from Missouri [1\:Jr. Resolved by, tlle Senate a1ul HotU!e of .Bepresentatitves of tll.c Unitecl BORLAND] that dm;ing the past two years we bave p~ssed more States ot America in Oongrcss assembled,. That the President is here­ tban a dozen of these bills on the recommendation of · the by authorized to extend invitations to other nations to appoint dele­ gates or representatives to the International Dry-F!U"ming Congress, Treasury Depa1·tment. to be held at Denver, Colo .• September twenty-seventh to October eighth, l\1r. BOR~'D. 1\Ir. Chairma.n, I ask that the bill be passed mclusive, 1915 : Provided, That no appropriation shall be granted without pre}udice. for the .expenses of · delegates or for other expenses incurred in con­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Missouri asks unani­ nection w1th the said congress. mous consent that the bill be passed without prejudice. Is The SPEAKER. The question is on the eng1·ossment ant\ there objection? [After a pause.] The Chair hears none. Tlle third reading of the House joint resolution. Clerk will report the next bill. The House joint resolution was ordered to be engrossed and BRIDGE .ACROSS MISSISSIPPI BIVEB, MUSCATINE, lOW A. read a third time, was -read the third time, and passed. The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the next one. The next business on th~ Calendar ·for Unanimous Consent was the bill H. R. 17907 granting the consent of Congress to the EXCHANGE. OF FOREST LANDS WITH TaE STATE OF OREGON. Interstate Bridge & T~rJ?~l.Co._, of Muscatine, Iowa; to build The next business on the Calendar for.Unanimous Consent was a bridge· across the l\IISSJSS1PP1 ~lVe_r. . . . the bill ( s. 49) to provide for the exchange with the State of 1 Th~ SPEAKER. Is there obJectwn to the consideration ?f I Oregon of certain school lands and indemnity rights within the the bJll? [After a pause.] The Chair hears none. Tbe C1eik national forests of that State for an equal area of national! will report the bill. · forest ·land. The Clerk read as follows: . The title of the biU was read. Be it enacted, etc., That the consent of Congress 1S hereby granted The SPEAKER. Is there objection? to the Interstate Bridge & Terminal Co., of Muscatine,. Iowa, and its • successor:s and. assigns to conotruct, maintain, and operate a bridge 1\!r. 1\IANN. Mr. Speaker, I obJect. and approaches thereto across the Mississippi River at a point suitable The SPEAKER. The gentl~man from Illinois objects. The to the interests of navigation at or near Muscati~e, in the co~ty of . bill is stricken from the calendar. The Clerk will report the Muscatine, in the State of Iowa, in accordance w1th the provlswn of . the act entitled "An act to regulate the construction ot bridges over pext one. :Qavigable waters," approved March 23, 1906. . CONTRACTS UNDER RECLAMATION ACT. SEC. 2. That the right to alter, amen{), Qr repeal this act is hereb:y • , expressly reserved. The next business on the ~Iendar fo~ Un~mmous Consent. wa.s Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I moyc ·to strike out the last. ' the bill (H. R. 124) authonzmg and d1rectm~ the Secretaiy d~ word. , the Interior to investigate and settJe -certam acco'unts U.Qder The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisconsin moves to. the reclamation acts, and for other purposes. strike out the last word. The title of the bill was read.. . . Mr. STAFFORD l Wish to inquire whether tbis proj~t · i$ The SPEAKER~ Is there ob_Jection? . . . . . one in process of formation, whether the company has already Mr~ STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I obJect. . . been organized, or whether it is merely :tor the p~pose of .ex- T~ ~PEA~ER. The, gentleman · froi;Il W1sc~nsm. object~. ploitatHm,. to ascertain whether ultimately there w1U be cap1t"l The b1ll IS stricken from the calendar. The Clerk w:tli report sufficient to build the bridge.? · the next one. - 1915. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-- JIOUSE. 3799·

NONAPPRAHiElfENT OF MERCHANDISE, PEMBINA, N. DAK. Th~ SPEAKER. What is this bill about? Mr. SHACKLEFORD. It authorizes a band of Indians to Mr. BORLAJ\"'D. Ur. Speaker, I objected a few minutes ago sue ~e Uni~ed States Government, and to be . paid out of the to calendar No. 377, Senate bill 5449, to make Pembina, N. Dak., Public Treasury in case they reco\er a judClark. It applies to only one man. Capt. alone, I should not make the point. Clark was a soldier of the Civil War and served in that war : The SPEAKER. The Chair will inquire of the gentleman : until its close, and after that he served in the Regular Army. Is this a private bill or a public bill? His entire service has amounted to over 40 years. . After that : Mr. SHACKLEFORD. It is a private bill. he joined the Philippine Scouts, and his service in all aggre­ 1\Ir. 1\IILLER. Mr. Speaker-- gates nearly 53 years. Unfortunately the law is such that he . The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks the point of order is well can not be retired. This bill is to relieve that situation and It taken. retire this old soldier. seems to me this bill ought to be 1\Ir. MILLER. This is not a private bili. permitted to pass. Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, that is the objection I have to Mr. SHACKLEFORD. Oh, yes; it is. Mr. . MILLER. Mr. Speaker-- this bill. It is general in form, but it is intended to apply The SPEAKER. In a moment. to only one person. If it is to apply to one person only, it Mr. SHACKLEFORD. The fact that it is a band of Indians hould have been introduced as such and placed on the Pri- taken together does not make it a public bill any more than if \ ate Calendar. · , it was a bill for the relief of one Indian. . Mr. PETERSON. This bill has passed the Senate twice, The SPEAKER. If this is a private biB, it has no business mid has been favorably reported here twice by the Committee on Military Affairs, and the War Department has approved it, on this calendar, anyway. . .Mr. MILLER... That is ~ertainly granted, but I do not agree and it is certainly just and right that it should be passed. '.fhe SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Illinois withdraw With the proposition that It is a private bill. The SPEAKER. Why not? his objection? · 1\~r. MILLER. ·It is a bill in relation to the rights of certain 1\11'. !\IA~'N. No. Indians who are wards of the Government, who are not rep­ The SPEAKER. The bill is stricken from the calendar. The resented here in 'ally capacity whatever. Any bill that affects Clerk will report the next one. theil: we!-fare, their lands, their property, must of itself be a SHOSHONE INDIANS IN WYOMING. public bill, as ·far as the United States is concerned. It is The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent no~ for !Jl~ benefit. of any private individual, corporation, or "as the bill (H. R. 14869) authorizing the Shoshone Tribe of co_ncern m the. Umte~ States. ~t is a public matter, dealing Indians residing on the Wind River Reservation in Wyoming WI.th our .relations With the Indian tribes. If the bill were a to submit claims to the Court of Claims. private bill; there could be no question whatever about the The title of the bill was read. gentleman's statement that it was erroneously referred. But it l\!r. SHACKLEFORD. Mr. Speaker, I make a point of order is not a private bill. . against that bill, for the reason that the committee that re­ I -also desire to call the attention of the Chair to the fact that ported it had no jurisdiction even ~o consider or report it. It bills of ~is char~cter hav~ been r~ferred to and considered by should have gone to the Committee on Claims. It is here im­ the· Indian Affairs Committee without question for a gt·eat properly. The committee had no jurisdiction whate\er to con- many years. Certainly for all the time I have been a member sider it. of that committee, which is six years, nobody has thought of The SPEAKER. What committee reported it? raising the point that bills of this kind were not properly Mt·. SHACKLEFORD. The Committee on Indian Affairs. referred to that committee. The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks the gentleman's objection Section 16 of rule 686 . gives the Committee on Indian Affairs comes too late. jur!sdiction ove~· all bills ~hat deal with the relations of \he. Mr. SHACKLEFORD. No. I call the attention of the Chair Uruted States w1th the Indians and the Indian tribes inclncling to the second paragraph of Rule XXII. appropriations therefor. ' · Mr. MANN. Paragraph 4 of Rule XXII. The footnote, referring to this committee, says: The SPEAKER. What does the gentleman read from? · It has a broad jurisdiction of subjects relating to the care education Mr. SHACKLEFORD. House Rules, Rule XXII, paragraphs and: management of the Indians, including the care and ahotment of 2 and 4. I call the Chair's attention to these words in para- their lands. graph 2: • The subject matter of the bill we are considering deals with Any petition or memorial or private bill excluded under this rule two treaties made ·between the United States and Indian · sball be returned to the Member from whom it was received ; and peti­ tions and private bills which have been inappropriately referred may tribes; it also deals with public laws of the United States· by _the direction of the committee having pos!*lssion of the same be the relations between the United States and Indian tribes a~ properly referred in the manner originally presented· and an' er­ such in their very essence are public, not private. roneous reference of a p-etition or private bill under this clause shall not confer jurisdiction upon the committee to consider or report the Then, too, this bill deals with the allotment of Indian same. lands. It proposes that there shall be an inquiry into the Now, in the footnote to that it says: . treaties made controlling allotment of the Indian lands and also ~be er~·oneous reference of a -private bill to a committee not entitled an inquiry into whether or not in the allotment of' the Sho­ to JU~sdiction does not confer 1t, and a point of""order is good when Rhone Indian lands we have violated the terms of those treaties. the bill comes up for consideration either in the Bouse or in Commit­ tee of the Whole. . Let me also call the Chair's attention to the fact that the It refers to Hinds' Precedents, volume 4, section 4382. Indian Committee has jurisdiction, as everyone fi:dmits, of \ 3800 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUARY 1 '

claims arising from Indian depredations, and this whether the This is not dealing with the Indians generally; it is dealing Indians complained of have funds in the hands of the United with a band of Indians as a consolidated unit that seeks to re­ States out of which the claims can be paid or not. cover from the United States Government some money because Mr. SHACKLEFORD. May I interrupt the gentleman? that particular unit received some injury. It does not apply The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman yield to the gentleman to all Indians. If it was for Jim Crow or Big Feather it would from Missouri? be a private-bill, and the fact that it 1s for a particular band Mr. MILLER. I do not understand that I have the floor, does not prevent its being still a single unit, and it doe not Mr. Speaker. apply to any other Indian tribe, and therefore, I say, is a pri,ato 1\fr. SHACKLEFORD. Then I will say what I want to say bill. in my own right. The condition that the gentleman refers to 1\fr. MANN. 1\fr. Speaker, to sa-ve any question about the is just what induced me to make this point. In order to keep matter I object. these claims within proper bounds it has been thought advisable 1\fr. FERRIS. Will not the gentleman withhold his objection that they should be properly coordinated by sending them all and let the Speaker rule upon it for the benefit of the Indian to one committee when they are to be paid out of the Treasury Committee? of the United States. Mr. 1\fANN. It is just because I think the Speaker ought not But the gentleman says an abuse has grown up in that com­ to be called upon to determine this question at this time without mittee, and I agree with him that it has, and that is what I an opportunity to consult precedents that I have objected. ha 'e in mind in raising this point of order, to get this thing 1\Ir. FERRIS. I have no desire to hnrry the matter except • back where it belongs. to point out, as the House will remember, that when the Indian Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Will the gentleman yield? Committee had its bill in here the chairman of the committee 1\Ir. SHACKLEFORD. Yes. . ruled that everything subject to a point of .order was a gratuity Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. The gentleman is entirely appropriation out of the Treasury. Now the gentleman rilles mistaken in saying thiJ question has never been raised in the that the Indian Committee has no authority to deal at all .with Committee on Indian Affairs. It has been often raised and these matters, but I want to call attention to the fact that the was always sustained when I was chairman of the committee, jurisdiction of the Indian Committee is slipping away pretty and I think it has universally been held when the question has fast and soon will not have anything left. . ' been raised that the Indian Committee is without jurisdiction. .Mr. MANN. Oh, no ; I think not. I went over this matter \ Mr. MILLER. .Mr. Speaker, with due re pect to the distin­ when the bill was reported, and I was in doubt about it. I do guished gentleman from South Dakota and with due deference not think the Speaker ought to be called upon to rule offhand, to his personal recollection as to wha.t he did when he was and I was going to object, anyhow. chairman of the committee, I still maintain that not at any time The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois objects, and the since I have been a member of that committee has that point bill will be stricken from the calendar. ever been raised, except when the gentleman from Missouri MANUFACTURE OF DENATURED ALCOHOL. [Mr. SHACKLEFORD], who now J.·aises the point here, raised it in the committee a few weeks ago. The n~xt business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent The SPEAKER. The Chair will ask the gentleman from was the bill H. R. 9591, to permit the manufacture of denatured South Dakota, Is this a private bill or a public bffi, in the alcohol by mL"ting domestic and wood alcohol while in proce s gentleman's opinion? of distillation. Mr. BURKE ·of SouW1 Dakota. There is some doubt about it, The Clerk rea-d the bill, as follows : Be it enacted, etc., That notwithstanding anything contained in the but I am inclined to think it is a public bill. Many of this class act entitled "An act for the withdrawal from bond, tax free, of domes­ of bills provide for appropriating the money that may be tic alcohol when rendered unfit for beverage or liquid medicinal uses by recovered in the judgment, and universally they have gone on mixture with suitable denaturing materials," approved June 7, 1906, or the act amendatory to same approved March 2, 1907, or subsection 2 of the Union Calendar. Perhaps this bill is different in that re­ subsection N of the act approved October 3, 1913, amendatory to same spect. Recently we passed a bill restoring the annuities _to dom~stlc alcohol while it is in its nascent condition, before it has the Santee Sioux. 'fhat bill was on the Union Calendar, and passed from the state of vapor, or while in the original closed and con­ tinuous process of distillation, tnay be denatured by so mixing with it I think that has been the universal practice. If it is a private tbe vapors or condensed vapors ariEing from the destructive distillation bill, of course it does not belong {)n this calendar~ of wood or other denaturing material or materials or admixture of the Mr. MILLER. That was the point I started to i:r;lake. These same as to render such alcohol unfit for use as an intoxicating beverage and thereupon shall be directly conveyed from the still by continuous bills go to the Union Calendar. This bill is on the Union Cal­ closed pipes to locked and sealed receptacle~ from which 1t may be endar. A private bill is never placed on the Union Calendar. withdrawn under such regulations as the commissioner of Internal Revenue, with the approval of the Se-cretary of the Treasury, may The SPEAKER. Yes, but the way this bill got on the Unani­ prescribe. . mou Consent Calendar is that it was erroneously referred to SBc. 2. That where such alcohol is of insufficient proof to be dena­ the llou e Calendar. tured the same may be transferred in bond from such locked and sealed Me. in will receptacles, free of tax, to a central distilling and denaturing plant, as MILLER. Yes, but addition to that, the Speaker provided for in subsection 2 of subsection N of the act approved Octo­ allow me to call his attention to what it seems to me is the de-­ ber 3, 1913, where such alcohol may be redistllled and denatured when termining factor? This bill proposes to 'deal with the relations sufficient denaturants shall not already have been mixed witli said alcohol, as hereinbefore provided, under such regulations and upon the between the United States and a band of Indians, not betwe-en execution of such notices and bonds as the Commissioner of Internal the United States and a citizen of the United States. If it did, Revenue, with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, may_ the bill would be a private bill and a private claim. prescribe. l\!r. SHACKLEFORD. 1\Iay I ask the gentleman a question? The SPEAKER. Is there objection? M1·. MILLER. This contemplates the consideration of the Mr. STAFFORD. Reserving the tight to object, .Mr. Speaker, conduct of the United States in its trust capacity in relation to 1 would like to ask some member of the Ways and 1\Iean the property belonging to a large band of Indians, and it does Committee as to the reason that the bill was not submitted to not eem to me that it could from any point of view be con• the Treasury Department for condemnation or apJ)roval. I sideretl as a private measure. It is a public :neasure. It deals notice there is no reference whatever in the report to its ha.v­ with a public question. If the relations between the United ing been submitted to the Secretary of the Treasury. States Goycrnment and a band of Indians are not a public ques­ Mr. .MOORE. The bill was introduced by my colleague [1\Ir. tion. I can not pos ibly conceive of anything that would be a PALMER], and he was very much interested in it. It had the public question. approval of the committee. As he is not here at the moment I The SPEAKER. Nobody understands or can define the exact ask that it be passed without prejudice. relation between the Indian tribes and the United States. Mr. STAFFORD. I notice that the chairman of the Ways Sometimes they are treated as independent and sometimes as and Means Committee has just come in. While the gentleman wards of the Nation. was tempo~arily ab~ent I made an inquiry as to the reason the Mr·. SHACKLEFORD. In considering the importance of this bill was not submitted to the Treasury Department for its ap­ ns di closed by what the gentleman from l\finnesota says, the proval or disapproval. habit is arowing up in seyeral committees of taking jurisdiction Mr. UNDERWOOD. I will say to the gentleman that I of these bills, and that is the reason that I am opposing it, and have not had charge· of the bill personally. It was referred to I say that it is a private bill. a subcommittee, of which the gentleman from Pennsylvania The SPEAKER. Why does the gentleman say it is a private [Mr. P,ALMER] was chairman, and he reported the bill. 1\fy un­ bill? derstanding is that he had the matter up with the Treasury De­ 1\Ir. SHACKLEFORD. A private bill does not necessarily have partment and they stated that it would not interfere witll the to be a bill for a primte individual. It might be for Jim Jones, and revenue. It was a unanimous report from the Ways and Means it miO'ht be for orne particular corporation composed of n. hun­ Committee; the Members on both sides agreed to the bill. I dred men, or an individual company composed of a million men. am not in a position to give the gentleman full information be­ Still the ingle unit you are dealing "with makes it u private bill. cause I have not given it any detailed study.

, ;'' 1915 . . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-' HOUSE. 3801 1 Mr. STAFFORD. I was not so much concerned about the ' that when:. they go through the worm, as the gentleman calls first section of the bill as about the second section,. which· in- lit, where they are condensed _into liquid form, . the two classes volves a question of practice as to the oneration of making- :or alcohol become condensed together, and the result is that denatured alcohol which I think should be submitted. to the iYOU have an alcohol that has a sufficient amount of wood alco­ commissioner general of internal revenue for his opinion:. It I hol iil it to prevent it from being used for drinlting purposes. lia:re no objection to the bill being passell over. without preju- 1 Mr. JDBNSON of Kentucky. This goes further than that, dice. . i howeve~ T~e - fit:st vapor that comes ~rom th~ worm, or- ~he Mr. UNDERWOOD. I will say to the gentleman that I do conderrsmg Pipe, If you choose to call 1t that, IS of v-cry- high not like to make a statement from memory without I am posi- . nroof, and the· longer vapor continues to come into the pipe tive, but I am quite positive that this bill did. go to the Treas- a~d flow fron;t it the rower in proof it_ be.comes. Sectio_n 2 pr?­ lll'Y Department and met with· its approvaL VIdes that this condensed vapor, or liquid, may be shipped m · :Mr. STA.FF0RD. I am in sympathy with the object sought bond .,~rom one place to another when it. is of " insufficient to be obtained' by the bill, particularly the first section, which proof to be denatured...... seeks to legalize a new practice in making denatured alcohol, .1\fr. U~ERWOOD .' I think that IS the .law t?-day. There Hut I wa-s thinking whether the second. section might not meet ate certam. classes of alcohol that can be ~pped m bond .. with some objection from the Commissioner of Internal Revenue. . .Mr. JOHN~ON of Kentucky. Oh, yes; whisky can be shipped Mr. UNDERWOOD. I did not know the bilL was coming up m bond,_ but It would have· to pay a tax of $1.10 on a measured and therefore I have not the papers her-e, but I am satisfied in gallon. mstead of $1.10 on a proof gallon if it were below my· own mind that it was-submitted to the Treasury Department 100 P_Ioof. . . . . and met with its approval, or it would not have been reported 1\fr: UNDERWO\)D. That IS when It comes out With an m- by the committee. 1suffiCient degree of wood . alcohol in the·. bal:mce of the alcohol Mr. JOHNSON of Kentucky. Mr. Speaker, I have read the f0 be of the test that ~e mspectors requiTe m order to saY. that bill a number of times, and I have serious doubts whether it will t amounts to denature~ alcohol. . . . accomplish the purpose which ib seeks to accomplish, and that Mr: STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, the secon~ .~ection provides is whether the new mixture of denatured alcohol will be free that .It shall be transported under tho.se conditions· ftee of taL from tax I think it had better fie looked into . before it. is 1\fr. JOHNSON of Kentuchoy. Ye.s ;, it can be b:ansported. free. passed to' see whether that is so or not · ?f tax, .but when yo~ are transporting. it ~ee. of. tax it. is still M · UNDERWOOD~ That would nat hurt the Government m bond, and when It c~mes - out o~ _bon~ 1t mus.t or must not . 1 • pay the tax, and.. there 1S no proVISIOn m. the bill which says / any._ . :r. . . . • in so many words . that it shall not pay the- tax when it comes ;' .. Mr. JOHN.SON of ~e~tuc~y. ~o; but i~ would b~ better not out of bond. You can ship whisky from Kentucky to California· to pass the bill unless It IS gomg to ac.compllsh the ObJect sought. in bond, but. when: it gets. out to California, before it gets out of ~r. UNJ?ERWOOD ..on what ~round does? the gentleman b?Dd, tJ;le tax must be• paid. There is no direct provision in this thmk the bill does not free the alco~ol from tax· b1ll which says-. that the- tax on these goods shall not be paid·. . . Mr. ~OHNSf Kentucky. If the condensing pipe is the that gasoline could not be used for. worm, and there is no provision-for other than. one worm. then 1\Ir. l\fADDEN. Oh, yes. it goes from the still and must come from the one condensing Mr. SHACKLEFORD. 1\Ir. Speaker, if the gentleman will pipe or worm; and the bill provides, in lines 3 and. 4, page 2, permit, I was a member of the committee at the time this bill tliat the condensed vapors may be mixed. was considered, and while I did not-hear all that was presented, l\Ir. STAFFORD. But in line 3 it says "vapors." I was present at the committee when some of the hearings were Mr. JOHNSON of Kentucky. It says· " vapors or condensed had. The proposition was that under this process the denatur- vapors." Vapor is one thing and condensed \apor is another.- ized alcoh()l was made by a single process; whereas as it is now Mr. STAFFORD. It permits both. made it r:equires a double one. First, you manufacture the 1\Ir. UNDERWOOD. This bill provides: alcohol and then you subsequently denaturize it. These gentle- Or while in the orighial closed and continuous· process- of distillation, men have a process, which they propose to test, which produces may be denatured by so mixing with it the vapors ar condensed vapors the denatured alcohol in one process, thereby greatly reducing arising from the destructive distillation of wood or other denaturing the cost of it. Now, as to the use of it, it will be used in what· material or materials. ever- way denatured alcohol is used In other words, the purpose of the bill is to allow the man . Mr. 1\IADDEl~. Does this strengthen it at all or make it who makes the denatured alcohol to run the vapors of wood better for fuel? alcohol together with the vapors of grain alcohol, and I suppose Mr. SHACKLEFORD. It is not made better or worse. 3802 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUARY 15,

1\Ir. UNDERWOOD. - I do not think it makes it any better hom_e~tead. Jaw in Wi.scon&n, and where such proof shows full five or worse, as the gentleman from 1.\fissouri says. It is only the yea~s .reside!JCe and Improvements on the Wisco nsin land, to which their title failed by reason of the decision of the Supreme Court in the question that these men claim they can make cheaper denatured case of the Wisconsin Central Railroad Co. v. For ythe ( 15!) U. ::;., alcohol in this way. I do not say they can or not, but I think p. 46), whether such entL·y is now being asserted by the original entry­ it is worth while that they should be given the opportunity: man or by his transferee, be, and the same are het·eby confirmet1 and t.~ e Secretary ot the .Inte_rior _is directed to i sue patents thereon:' Pro­ Mr. SHACKLEFORD. As it is now, they can not even ex­ t:1 ~ e d1. That. this le~I s l a tion IS to be construed as only removing the periment in it without violating the internal-revenue law. ObJecuon With relatiOn to transfer, heretofore raised by the Interior The SPEAKER. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The pepartm.ent .against said entries, and is not to be con twed as confirm­ mg entnes, If any, made for lands not subject to ent ry or enh·ies made Chnir hears none. The Clerk will report the bill. by persons not entitled thereto: Provided further That if any of the Mr. UNDERWOOD. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent said entries unde L· the remedial act or amendments thereto have been that the bill be considered in the House as in the Committee of canceled and the lands embL·aced therein reen tered by intervenina ad­ ver~e claimants •. such canceled entries are not to be reinstated" and the Whole House on the state of the Union. validated by this act, but the right to make new locations in lieu The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Alabama asks unani­ thereof for lands subject to homestead entry is hereby granted. mous consent that this bill may be considered in the House as The committee amendment was read as follows: in the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The Chair hears Page 2, str·ike out .after the word " act," line 17, the comma and t]le words "but the right to make locations in lieu thereof for land no ne. The Clerk will report the bill. subject to homestead entry is hereby granted." The Clerk read as follows: The amendment was agreed to. Be it enacted, eta., That notwithstanding_anything contained in the act entitled "An act for the withdrawal from bond, tax free, of· do­ The bill as amended was ordered to be read' a third time was mestic alcohol when rendered unfit for beverage or liquid medicinal read the third time, and passed. ' uses by mixture with suitable denaturing materials," approved June 7, 1006, or the act amendatory to same approved March 2, 1907, or sub­ Mr. FERRIS. 1\Ir. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to ex­ section 2 of subsection N of the act approved October 3, 1913, amenda­ tend my remarks in the RECORD by printing a letter from the tory to same, domestic alcohol while it is in its nascent condition, be­ report from the Department of the Interior. fore it has passed from the state of vapor, or while in the original The SPEAKER. On thls bill? closed and continuous process of distillation, may be denatured by so mixing with it the vapors or condensed vapors arising from the de­ 1\fr. FERRIS. A report on this identical bill. structive distillation of wood or other denaturing material or mate­ The SPEAKER. .What is the request? rials or admixture of the same as to render such alcohol unfit for use as an intoxicating beverage and thereupon shall be directly conveyed ..Mr. FERRIS. The request is to print in the RECORD a letter from the still by continuous closed pipes to locked and sealed recep­ from the department's report on this identical bill. tacles from which it may be withdrawn under such regulations as the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Oklahoma asks unani­ Commissioner of Internal Revenue, with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, may prescribe. mous consent to print in the RECORD a letter from the department SEc. 2. That where such alcohol is of insufficient proof to be de­ about this bill. Is there objection·: [After a pause.] The Chair natured the same may be transferred in bond from such locked and hears none. sealed receptacles, fL·ee of tax, to a central d'istilling and denaturing The letter referred to is as follows: plant, as provided for in subsection 2 of subsection N of the act ap­ proved October 3, 1013, where such alcohol may be redistilled and D EPARTMENT OF THiil INTERIOR, denatured when sufficient denaturants shall not already have been Washington, J11ne 18, 1914. mixed with said alcohol, as hereinbefore provided, , under such regula­ Hon. HExny L. MYE RS, tions and upon the execution of such notices and bonds as the Com­ Chairman Committee Oil P·tt blia Lands, missioner of Internal Revenue, with the approval of the Secretary of United States Senate. the Treasury, may prescribe. MY DE.ill SENATOR: By your reference I have for report Senate bill 5629, for the relief of' certain persons who settled under the home­ The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, stead laws upon certain lands which were lost to them because of' was read the fhird time, and passed. conflict with the grant to the Wisconsin Central Railroad. SHOSHONE TRIBE OF INDIANS. Congress bas on three occasions legi lated respecting the homestead settlers on the lands found to belong to the Wisconsin Central Railroad Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. 1\Ir. Speaker, dur1ng my absence Co. The fiL·st was the act of April 19, 1V04 (33 ;Stat., 184) ; the second, the act of May 29, 1908 (35 Stat.. 46fi); the third was the joint reso­ from the Hall a few moments ago Unanimous Consent Calendar lution No. 164 of June 25, 1910 (36 Stat, 885). No. 385 was called and some disposition made of it. I desire A number of entries were made under said legislation by the alleged to know what disposition was made of the case. beneficiaries, and it appeared that agreements had been made by them The SPEAKER. It was stricken from the calendar. prior to entry for the transfer of the lands to be so entered. In the test case of Leopold Bauer, decided by the department Feb­ l\1r. STEPHENS of Texas. Was the question raised as to the ruary 21, 1910 (38 L. D., 460), adhered to on review and rereview jurisdiction of the Committee on Indian Affairs? ( 39 L. D., 304), the department held that the remedial legislation The SPEAKER. There were four or five questions raised, referred to contemplated merely that in making homestead entries for other lands for their own benefit the entrymen should be credited and finally the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. MANN] settled the for the time spent and improvements made on the Wisconsin lands, whole squabble by objecting. but did not grant a SCI'ip right nor authorize agreement prior to entry .Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Then it was objected to and went for transfer of the lands to be entered thereunder . It appears that the entry of Bauer was canceled on August 6, 1913. off the calendar on that ground and not on the ground of the The action of the depaL·tment was predicated upon its view as to the lack of jurisdiction of the Committee on Indian Affairs? proper construction to be placed upon said remedial legislation, which, The SPEAKER. No_; the Chair is going to investigate that i.n the opinion of the department, did not authorize tL·ansfer of the right of entry, but merely authorized entries to be made by the beneficiaries matter. for their own use and benefit. The present legislation obviates the LOBSTER-REARING STATION. objection theretofore raised by the department and provides for con­ firmation of t!le entries whether such entries are now being asseL·ted The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent by the original entrymen or by transferees. 'fhe department is not at was the bill (S. 4725) providing for the establishment of a lob­ all averse to this legislation, inasmuch as it appears that the settlers ster-rearing station at some suitable point on the Atlantic coast. made their settlements and improvements upon lands supposed to be public lands and lost their claims without any fault of their own. The Clerk read the title of the bill. Having in effect earned title to the former lands, which could not be given The SPEAKER. Is there objection? them because the lands were not public lands of the United States, they Mr. FOSTER. l\Ir. Speaker, I object. may very properly be accorded the right to transfer tbe additional lands, and any ag!"eements to do so made prior to entry may be allowed if The. SPEAKER. The bill is ordered stricken from the Congress desires to grant such privilege. calendar. It is believed, however, that the following provisions should be added ENTRIES UNDER ACT OF MAY 2!>, 1!>08. to the proposed bill, viz : upt·ovided, That thjs legislation is to be construed as only removing The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent the objections with relation to transfer, heretofore raised by the Interior was the bill (S. 5629) for the relief of certain persons who Department against said entries, and is not to be construed as confirm­ ing entries, if any, made for lands not subject to entry or entries made made entry under the provisions of section 6, act of May 29, by persons not entitled thereto : .And provided further, That if any ot 1908. the said entries under the remedial act or amendments thereto have been The Clerk read the title of the bill. canceled and the lands embraced therein reentered by intervening The SPEAKER. Is there objection? _ adverse claimants, such canceled entries are not to be reinstated and validated by this act, but the right to make new locations in lieu thereof. Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that for lands subject to homestead entry is hereby granted." the bill be considered in the House as in the Committee of Respectfully, the Whole House on the state of the Union. A. A. JONES, The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the First .Assistant Secretary. gentleman from Wyoming? [After a pause.] The Chair hears NONAPPRAISEMENT OF GOODS AT NYANDO, N. Y. none. The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent The Clerk read as follows: was the bill (H. R.17982) to make Nyando, N.Y., a port through Be it enacted, eta., That all entries made by beneficiaries under sec­ which merchandise may be imported for transportation without tion 6 of the act of Congre s approved May 29, 1908, entitled "An act appraisement. . authorizing a resurvey of certain townships in the State of Wyomin"', and for other purposes" (35 Stat., p. 465), in connection with which j The Clerk read the title of the bill. / such beneficiaries have submitted proof of their compliance with the The SPEAKER. Is there objection?

.. 1915.~ OONGRESSION AL RECORD-ROUSE. 3803

Mr. BOR.LAJ..~D. Mr. -Spea1rer, reserving the right to object, · leased lands to go -into aderritorial.fund, the principal of which I want to ·say :to ·the ·House that 1:his bill seems to be similar to will remain ·intact and the income used for school purposes. Calendar No. 377, providing that same . privilege for Pembina, J\Ir. MANN. Of course, it is almost self-evident, maybe not N. Dak. I withdrew my objection to the other bill. being C?n­ quite, that this bill will not become a law at this ses!::!ion of vinced that-it ·was a measure that ought to pass "in the interest Congress, owing to the situation in the Senate, and it seems of the efficiency of the -service, and I hope. these iwo bills will to me that a bill of this character, involving the question and, be taken up together, and I ask unanimous consent that Oalen­ I might say, almost a novel proposition, ought to be discussed tlar Nos. 377 ,and 391 be taken up together, as they are exactly somewhat in the House, and not passed by unanimous consent similar bills. without any consideration. I do not know but that 1 am in The ·SPEAKER. The gentleman irom Missouri a-sks unani­ hearty accord with the propositions in the bill. but I think it mous eonsent that Calendar No. 377, at the foot of the first ought ·to be considered in the House, and, with some regret, I page of the calendar, and Calendar No. 391, being similar, shall shall haYe to object at present. be taken up together. The SPEAKER. The gentleman n·om Illinois objects. Mr. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, as the gentleman from Missouri -Mr. 1\lANN. I am perfectly willing to pass it over. has stated, these bills are -similar in their purpose. The .gentle­ Mr. LENROOT. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that man -from Indiana [1\Ir. CLINE] a few minutes ago objected to the bill be passed without prejudice. Calendar No. 377, but since having more carefully considered The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wisconsin asks un:mi­ the bill l -am advised has no objection to it now. · mous consent that the bill be passed without prejudice. Is there The SPEAI}ER. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The objection? [After a pause.] The Ohair bears none. The Clerk Ohair hears none. '£he Olerk will report 377. will report the next bill. Mr. MANN. ·Mr. Speake1·, I aSk unanimous consent that TO PLACE BABROW COUNTY, GA., IN EASTERN DIVISION, NORTHERN both bills may be considered Jn the House as in the Committee DISTRICT. of the Whole House on the state of the Union. The next business on tlle Calendar for Unanimous Consent The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request· of the gen­ was the bill (H. R. 20688) to place Barrow Oounty, Ga., in tleman from Illinois? [After .a pause.] The Ohair hears none. the eastern district of the ·northern district of Georgia. NONAPPRAISEMENT OF MERCHANDISE, PEMBINA, N. DA.K. The SPEA.KER. Is there objection to the consideration of The Olerk read as follows: the bill? An act fS. 5449) to make Pembina, N. Dak., a port through which 1\fr. MANN. 1\fr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, I msrchandise may be imported for transportation without apprah,e­ should -like to make one inquiry. What is the name of this ment. county? Be it enacted, etc., -That · the privileges ~ the first section G! the act LEE It approved June 10, 1880 governing the immediate transportation of Mr. of· Georgia. is Barrow Oounty. dutiable merchandise without1 appraisement be, and the ·same are . "1\Ir. MANN. It is Barrow, and not Bartow? he-reby, extended to the port of·Pembina, N. Dak. Mr. LEE of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I want to amend in line 3. The bill was ordered . to be read .a third time, was read the The SPEAKER. You have not unanimous consent to consider third time, and passed. the bill as yet NYANDO, N. Y. Mr. 1\IANN. The bill has -One name and the report another. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the consideration of The 'next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Oonsent '\ the bill? [After a pause.] The Ohair hears none. The Olerk \ was the bill (H. R; 17982) to make Nyando, N. Y., a port will report the bill. through which merchandise may. be imported for transportation The Olerk Tead as follows: J without appraisement. I Be it enacted, etc., That tbe county of Bartow, in the State of Georgia, The Cle.rk read -as -follows: · is hereby attached to and made a part of the eastern division of the northern judicial district of -said State. Be it enacted, etc., That the privileges of the first section of the act i approved June 10, 1880, governing the immediate transportation of Mr. L"EE of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I desire to offer an amend­ dutiable merchandise •without appraisement be, and •the same are ment. I should like to amend in line 3 by inserting the word b.ereby, extended to the port of Nyando, N. Y• . "Barro\7 " ·in place of ·the word "Bartow.'' The bill was ordered to be read a third time, was . read the The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to. the amen:l· third time, and passed. mcnt. RESERVATION OF SCHOOL LANDS IN ALASKA. The amendment was agreed to. The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous ·oonsent third time, was read a third time, and passed. was the bill (H. R. 20851) to re-sei·ve "lands in the Territory of The title was amended to conform with the text Alaska for -e.d.uca tional uses and for other purposes. The .Ole.rk read the title· of the bill. LEGISLATIVE REFERENCE DIVISION, LIBRARY OF CONGRESS. . The SPEAKER. Is there .objection? Th1 next bill on the Calendar 'for Unanimous Consent was the Mr. .MANN. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, it bill H. R. 20.095; to establish the Legislative Reference Division seems to me this bill is one which ·ought to receive some dis­ of ihe Library of Congress. cussion and consideration in the House. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the consideration of Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. LEN­ the bill? ROOT] is familiar with it and I hope he will reply to the 1\Ir ..MANN. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, I see gentleman and give all the information the gentleman desires. that the gentleman from Texas [Mr. S!JAYDEN], the author of Mr. 1\IANN. As I understand this bill it would not raise the bill. is not present. I ask unanimous consent ;t"!lat the bill any money immediately for school purposes. be passed without prejudice. Mr. LENROOT. When ·the coal lands are leased it· will. Mr. BORLAND. Mr. Speaker, I object to . the consideration Mr. MANN. When the coal lands are leased. Is .the money of the bill. received -from that put in a fund? Mr. MOl\J)ELL. Mr. Speaker, I hope the gentleman from 1\lr. LENROOT. Put in a fund and the income therefrom Missouri [Mr. BoRLAND] will not object and insist on the bill shall be avaiL.

general subjects, such .as the advisability of having a budget , Mr. · ~IDRDOCK. , .There are .48 States in the Union, and some srstem, and so on. This is not the kind of legislative bureau of them have yearly sessions of the legislature, and some -have that we thought we were going. to have, by which :Members biennial sessions. coulcl have bills redrafted to comply with the decisions of the Mr. MADDEN. Yes. Attorney General and the courts and Comptroller of the Treas­ Mr. MURDOCK. It seems to me that would increase the ury, but a legislative bureau to go into the investigation of amount of franked matter considerably. what foreign Governments have .done on various matters, such · Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, if my colleague on the com­ as for rural credits and public health, and so forth. ~ittee .will permit, this is not intended to increase the amount of The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request that this franked matter, but merely to grant to daily legislative jour­ bill be pa sed temporarily? nals the second-class mailing privilege. It is not frankable. Mr. BORL.A.ND. I object on the ground that it does not Mr. MANN. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, what properly belong on this calendar and it will occasion a good are. the "daily legislative journals" of the legislative bodies? deal of debate when it comes up. I know that we have a Journal here, but it is not printed every The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the present considera­ day. . . . . tion of the bill? Mr. MADDEN. Whatever it is, that is what they want. Mr. BORLAND. I object to that, too. Mr. MANN. Yes; "whatever it is." I would like to know Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I hope the gentleman will not what it is. It may be a chance to insert all sorts of matter in· a object. legislative journal and send it out under the second-class privi­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Missouri [Mr. BoB­ lege. The legislative journal is not printed daily. LAND] objects, and the bill is stricken from the calendar. Mr. MADDEN. In our hearings it was understood that it was CLAIMS OF SISSETON AND WAHPETON BANDS OF SIOUX INDIANS. merely the journal of the proceedings of the day. . Mr. :MANN. Perhaps it is a daily legislative calendar. The next busines.s on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent Mr. MADDEN. No; it is not a calendar. was the bill S. 5255, an act conferring jurisdiction on the Court Mr. MANN. Certainly the journal of the proceedings is not of Claims to hear, determine, arid render judgment in claims of printed daily in any legislative body on earth. . .. the Sisseton and Wahpeton Bands of Sioux Indians against the Mr. MADDEN. If it is not printed daily it would not be sent United States. out daily. · · . . . l\fr. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I ask that the bill be passed Mr. MURPOCK. DQ a_nylegislatures keep a stenographic re­ wi thont prejudice. port of the proceedings? 1\Ir. SHACKLEFORD. I make the same point of order Mr. MANN. I think not. But it would not be that. We have against that bill that I made against the bill H. R. 14869. The a legislative Journal her~ in the House, but it is not printed gentleman from Minnesota [Mr. MILLER] made the point that daily. It is printed some time after the end of a session. I it was not a public bill, which I think is not tenable; but, if it do not think there is any legislative . body that prints what were. it does not alter the case. This is a bill for a claim we call a journal daily. now, if this ineans something, ap­ against the Government. It is a claim against the United parently no one knows what it does mean. The sending out States Treasury, and as such, regardless of the character of the Of the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD is now quite an expense, and if claim, it should have gone to the Claims Committee. Now, like we undertake to allcw them to send out everything that lS the chairman of the Committee on Indian Affairs [Mr. inserted in every legislative body in the States, including all STEPHEN's], I would like to have a ruling on tlie point of order; the bills that are introduced and all the reports that are / and I will ask, if the Speaker is not ready to rule, to have it made, the privilege would be used very extensively, possibly, submitted to him and have him take it under advisement until and at considerable cost. · · some future day and give us a ruling. · Mr. MADDEN. This is not giving the franking privilege. The SPEAKER. The Chair will do that·. The gentleman Mr. MURDOCK. That was my first impression-that it. did asks unanimous consent that this bill be !)&.SSed without preju­ give it. -' dice. Mr. MANN. Oh, I kno~; but to send at 1 cent a pound is Mr. 1\!ANN. Mr. Speaker, I object to the consideration of the practically below cost. bill. Mr. MADDEN. The question is whether the people in the Mr. SHACKLEFORD. Mr. Speaker, I think the point of States are not sufficiently interested in the proceedings of the order has precedence over the objection to it. Whenever it legislatures of the States to justify the enactment of such a comes up it is subject to a point of order, and I make the point law as this. of order. I do not ask the Chair to decide it now, but let it be Mr. MANN. I suspect that if I were in one of the _legislative pending. bodies in a State and desired to publish to my constituents The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Missouri will please the great amount of work that I was doing, I would have the furnish the Speaker ·with a brief on all these points. The gen­ journal showing that I had introduced such and such bills and tleman from Illinois [Mr. MANN] objects. mail that at 1 cent a pound to all the constituents .in my dis­ Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I want to state, Mr. Speaker, that tiict. It is purely political campaigning that ought to be· paid this has been a vexed question, and we want it decided one way for by the man that does itt and not by the Government of the or the other. · United States. · The SPEAKER The Chair will settle it as soon as he gets Mr. MADDEN. I am not interested in that at all. a chance· to investigate .it, but it is an important matter, and Mr. MOORE. Mr. Speaker, I object. as it will probably affect many other bills, he does not wish to The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. settle it offhand. It is as troublesome a bill as there is in the MooRE] objects. House. The gentleman from Illinois [Mr. MANN] objects, and the bill ·AMENDMENT OF THE INTERSTATE COMMERCE ACT. is stricken from the calendar. Mr. CULLOP rose. The SPEAKER. For what purpose does the gentleman from LEGISLATIVE JOURNALS AS SECOND-CLASS MAIL. Indiana rise? The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent Mr. CULLOP. I want to call up the bill (H. R. 2496) fo was the bill (S. 1701) to admit legislative journals of State and amend section 15 of the act to regulate commerce, as amended Territorial legislatures to the mails as second-class mail matter. June 29, 1906, and June 18, 1910. It was called up a few The title of the bill was read. moments ago and objection was inade · wJie~ it was called np, The SPEAKER. Is there objection? and it was stricken from the calendar. I want to ·know if the Mr. 1\!URDOCK. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, gentleman froin Illinois [Mr. MANN] will consent that the bill I would like to have some explanation as to what extent this is be passed over without prejudice, and not stricken from the going to increase the free matter. It is penalty matter? calendar. It is the bill H. R. 2496 to amend section 15 of the Mr. MADDEN. That bill passed the Senate and was referred Interstate Commerce act. It is No. 368 on the calendar. to the Cominittee on the Post Office and Post Roads, and Senator The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indhina [Mr. CULLOP] BRYAN appeared before the committee and made the statement asks if the gentleman fron:i Illfnois [Mr. 1\!ANN] will withdraw that a great many· requests had been made by officers of the his objection made to the consideration of this bill, and let it be States that permission· should be granted to send the· journal passed over without prejudice? . . . of the ·legislatures to :the people within the States, not outside Mr: MANN. So fa·r as I am concerned, :Mr. Speaker, I have the States, without payment of .postage. · . ~ no objection. · .Mr. 'MURDOCK. . The Post Office Department at the present · The· SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indiana asks unani­ time is struggling with a ·deficit that seems to be growing. · mous consent to pass over the bill without· prejudice. Is there Mr. MADDEN. This will not amount to much. objection? · · ' · ,· I ) 1915 .. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 3805:

Mr. MOORE. I object. . . SANITARY CONDITIONS IN COMPOSING BOOMS, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent MOORE] objects. . was the bill (H. R. 18383) to provide better sanitary conditions Mr. CULLOP. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman from Penn­ in composing rooms within the District of Columbia. sylvania withhold his .objection for a moment? The title of the bill was read. Mr. MOORE. I have no objection to withholding it. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Mr. CULLOP. This bill- passed the Sixty-second Congress by There wa-s no objection. practically a unanimous vote. It is a bill of great importance to The bill was read as follows : the country, for the uniform classification of freights, and I Be it enacted, etc., That all typesetting, type-casting, and similar hope that the gentleman will consent that the bill may be machines and apparatus, such as linotype machines, monotype casters, passed over now, as objection has been made, without prejudice, stereotype melting pots, and the like, shall be piped in a proper and. efficient manner, so as to effectually carry off the noxious fumes and S(J that at some other time it may be taken up during the session. gases arising during their operation : Provided, That ~xhaust fans, It is a matter of great iniportance. . blowers, or other suitable devices shall also be installed when deemed The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Pennsylvama necessary for the purpose of further aiding in the discharge of all deleterious matter from composing and other rooms where any of the [Mr. MooRE] ·adhere to his objection or does he relent? . above machines may be in operation. - - Mr. MOORE. Mr. Speaker, this is a very important bill, and SEC. 2. That it shall be the .duty of the health officer of the Dis· it is one to which some of the commercial bodies of my. section trict of Columbia to inspect the composing rooms of all printing offices within his jurisdiction at least once a year. • He shall, in addition to of the country object. I have been hearing from them on ~s observing that the intent and purpose of this act is carried into effect, subject. · There should be a full discussion of a measure of tfiiS order such other changes as he may deem necessary to give proper importance, and it seems unfair to bring it· up in this way on ventilation to the employees therein. Such orders of the health officer to be complied with within 30 days thereafter. Any failure so to do unanimous-consent day when everything is under such high to be reported by him to the District attorney for prosecution. pressure. I would be willing to have it considered in the regu- ~EC. 3. That any person, firm, or corporation found guilty of a vio­ lar way, but it should not ·be considered now. . lation of, or a failure to comply with, any of tlle requirements of this act shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of $25 for Mr. CULLOP. I want to say to the gentleman, in tl).at con­ each and every machine so operated : Provided, That each and every nection· that very extensive he·arings were had on this bill. day such machine or machines are operated after proper notification Mr. MOORE. May I ask the gentleman what his request by the health officer of the insanitary conditions surrounding them shall be qeemed a separate violation and punishable in like manner as the ,, was? . origmal ofl'ense. · · - Mr. CULLOP. It was that the bill may now be passed over SEc. 4. That this act shall take efl'ect three months from the date ot without prejudice, as objection was made to its consideration. its passage. . Mr. MOORE. I do not object. With the following comniittee amendments: The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Page 1, line 3, after the word " That," insert the words " the melt- There was no objection. ing pots of." Page 1, lin~ 9; strike out the words "when deemed necessary." INVESTIGATION AND SETTLEMENT OF ACCOUNTS UNDER RECLAMATION Page 2, strike out all of section 2. Page 2, line 13, strike out the figure "3" and insert the figure "2." ACTS. Page 2, line 17, strike out all of said line after the word "operated" Mr. RAKER rose. and all of lines 18, .19, 20, and 21 and insert in lieu thereof the fol­ The SPEAKER. For what purpose does the gentleman from: lowing: " ; and each day operated shall constitute a separate ofl'ense." Page 2, line 23, strike out the figure " 4 " and insert in lieu thereof California rise? the _figure " 3." - Mr. RllER. For the purpose of asking unanimous consent The committee amendments were agreed to. that the bill (H. R. 124) authorizing and directing the Secre­ The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a tary of the Interior to investigate and settle certain accounts third time, and was accordingly read the third time and passed. under the reclamation acts, and for other purposes, No·. 383 on the calendar, be passed over without pre~u~ce. I want to THE LATE SENATOR JOHN T. MORGAN. call the attention Qf the gentleman from Illmo1s [Mr. MANN] The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent to the fact that I have taken this matter up with the depart­ was the joint resolution (S. J. Res. 196) to authorize the Secre­ ment and have had the matter practically looked into, and I tary of War to grant permission to the Southern Commercial ask that it be passed over without .prejudice. It has to do with Congress to place a tablet at Gamboa, Canal Zone, as a memo­ the settlement of accounts under reclamation projects for labor rial to the late Senator John T. Morgan. performed. The title of the joint resolution was read. Mr. MANN. I have no objection. That is the mechanics' lien The SPEAKER. Is there objection? matter? Mr. MANN. Reserving the right to object, let us have the Mr. R.A.KER. Yes. joint resolution reported. Mr. STAFFORD. I object to having it returned to. The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the joint resolution. Mr. MA~TN. The gentleman is trying to prepare a proper The joint resolution was read, as follows: bill? Resolved, etc., That permission is hereby granted for the placing ot Mr. RAKER. Yes; I am having it put in proper shape, and a tablet containing a portrait bust of the late Senator John T. Morgan, with an appropriate inscription, at Gamboa, in the Canal Zone, at SllCh at the next consideration I will have it in proper shape. time and under such regulations as the Secretary of War may direct. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from California asks unani­ With the following committee amendment: · mou-s consent that Calendar No. 383 (H. R. 124) be passed In line 3, strike on t the words " for the placing of " and insert in without prejudice. Is there objection? lien thereof the words "to the Southern Commercial Congress to place." Mr. MILLER. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, I see The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. Mr. MILLER. I understand that bill was stricken from the in the report this statement made concerning Senator Morgan: It will be universally admitted that but for his I>ersistent, earnest, calendar. and able efl'orts in behalf of the Isthmian Canal there would not be The SPEAKER. · Yes. such canal to-day in existence. He was firmly convinced that the Nica. Mr. MILLER. Will the unanimous consent asked for by the raguan route was the most feasible, but this does not in any way lessen the importance. of his efforts, through which, more than anything else, gentleman from California restore it to tlie calendar; and, if so, the canal connecting the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans in America was to the place it formerly occupied on the calendar? finally constructed and is now in operation. The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks it would; but to be on the I assume that as the bill provides the authority to erect a safe side the Chair will put the request h. this way: The gentle­ bust on . the Panama Canal with an appropriate inscription, man from California asks unanimous consent to pass Calendar those who favor the bill would put on the bust an inscription No. 383 (H. R. 124) without prejudice and, to have it restored something like what I have read from the report. I am not to the relative place on the calendar that it now occupies. Is willing to admit that that statement in the report is correct. there objection? . With the highest regard for Senator Morgan and for the work Mr. BORLAND. I object. which he did, it is not universally admitted by a long way­ Mr. RAKER. · Will the gentleman let it go to the bottom of that but for his persistent, earnest, and able efl'orts in behalf of the the calendar? · Isthmian Canal there would not be such a canal to-day in existence. Mr. BORLA.l~D. This bill has been on the calendar every I do not think it is desirable to give authority to some one to. time it has been called. erect an appropriate bust or otherwise with such inscriptions Mr. RAKER. Will not the gentleman let it go to the bottom on the canal. If that authority were granted quite generally, of the calendar? . we would soon have · a large number of· these memorial busts The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gen­ along the canal, each claiming that the particular gentleman· tleman from California? whose bust was erected was really the author and father of the Mr. BORLAND. I object. canal. That would be exceedingly ludicrous. LII-240 3806 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUAR r 15, \

Mr: UNDERWOOD. Mr. Speaker~ if the gentleman from Mr. MANN. I read from the report on this bill, and I have illinois has finished what he has to say~ I desire to say a word no doubt the report shows the line along which the committee if he will yield the time. think the proper inscription should be written. Of courser I Mr. MANN. I will reserve the right to object. The gentle- appreciate the fact that it is highly desirable that the people in man can take the floor in his own right. Alabama, which State Senator Morgan so long and so _ably repre- Mr. UNDERWOOD. Mr. Speaker, it is with very deep regret sented, should believe that he was the one who did the work, that I have heard the gentleman from· Illinois indicate his in.ten- and y~t there are other points of view without any reflection tion to object to the consideration of this bill. There is no npon the work that he did do. charge on the Government The Southern Commercial Con- Mr. UNDERWOOD. I have just stated to the gentleman that gress represents the business interests of the Southern States. neither I nor anyone else· claim that Senator Morgan did all the John T. Morgan was for more than 30 years a typical repre- work. History and time itself will give him the place that he sentative of those States in the Congress of the United States. is entitled to for the great ·work he did, and I do not think this He was a rnan whose character was without question, whose Congress should withhold the mere privilege from his own people loyalty and earnest devotion to his State and to his country of placing a tablet at the Canal Zone and let future generations entitled him to a place in history and a place in the hearts of know that they believe in the·man and the work he did. his countrymen.. The gentleman f1;om illinois says it is absurd Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, I would like to make this sug­ to say that the work of John T. Morgan was not largely re- gestion: That the sentiment to be placed on the table or monu· spon.c."'ible for the building of an Isthmian Canal. ment, or wh-atever it may be, should be in the bill. .1\.Ir. M.Al\TN. If the gentleman will yield, I did not make any 1\lr. UNDERWOOD. I have no objection to that; but I do uch statement as that. not propose to advocate a bill which would violate the propri- 1\Ir. UNDERWOOD. I thought that was the gentleman's eties of any occasion. . As to the Oongress dictating who is statement. entitled to the greatest credit, the people of the United States Mr. MANN. Not at all. . will find that verdict, and nobody in building•a monument can 1\Ir. UNDERWOOD. I withdraw it, if I misquoted the gen- find the verdict for them. tleman. I did not intend to do so. 1\fr. MANN. I suppose if the bill passes it would not be long 1\Ir. Speaker, I do not hesitate to say that there are several, before we should have a variety of portrait busts, with inscrip­ if not many, great men in this country whose names should be tions, along the line of the canal that would rival the" Chamber immortal for the work they have done in the building of this of Horrors" right here behind us. canal; but I say that no man has ever been connected with the , Mr. DENT. Wj.ll the gentleman yield? history of this Government whose work was more continuous .Mr. MANN. Yes. and more earnest in behalf of the building ()fan Isthmian Canal, Mr. DENT. I want to ask the gentleman from illinois, if or the result of whose work was more effective in producing the the objectionable sentence which he read in the report was legi lation that ultimately built the canal, than John T. Morgan. stricken out by unanimous consent, there being nothing in the It is true he believed the Nicaragua route was the safest, bill on this subject, it would relieve his objection to the bill? the best, and the cheapest to be built. When the bill was passed Mr. 1\IANN. I think that is the kind of appropriate inscrip­ this House, by more than a three-fourths vote, agreed with his tion that the Southern Commercial Congress would think was position. The House accepted the bill that was finally passed, proper to be placed upon the bust. I do not think that is cor· because it could get no other legislation from the other body. rect history. This gentleman from Iowa, Mr. Hepburn, whose fame will Mr. GREE...~ of Vermont. 1\fr. Speaker, I might say now, if live as long as the canal exists, reported and passed through it will shorten this debate, that I shall object to the considera· this House the bill that was advocated by John T. Morgan tion of the bill under any circumstances. for building an Isthmian Canal, but it was his insistence that 1\fr. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I object. a way should be cut for the passage of the ships through the 'l'he SPEAKER. The gentleman from North Dakota objects, Isthmus that agitated the American people, that created a and the bill will be stricken from the calendar. sentiment from one coast to the other for the building of this GRANTING LANDS TO SCHOOL DISTRICT NO. 44, CRELA.N COUNTY,. canal .And now I say for the Congress of the United States WASH. to deny his own people, who ask nothing of the Government, The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent the right to place a tablet at this canal and record on it the was the bill ( S .•4146) granting certain lands to school district work that he had done in the past connecting the two oceans No. 44, Chelan County, Wash. together in the interest of the commerce and trad-e of the world, The Clerk read the bill, as follows: is most unfortunate, and I shall regret most deeply if the dis­ Be it enacted, etc. That there Is hereby granted to school district No. tinguished gentleman from illinois exercises his pri fiege to 44, Chelan County, State of Washington, 1.77 acres In lot 3, section 13, defea. this bill. township 27 north, range 16 east, Willamette meridian, more particu­ larly described as follows: Beginning at the corner No. 1 of the tract 1\Jr. 1\fANN. 1\Ir. Speaker, I have always had, since I knew of land to be described, which is a stone marked "S. H.-44," from anything about him, the greatest admiration for Senator Mor­ which the quarter corner between sections 13 and 14, same township, gan and for the work which he did in reference to an Isthmian bears north 450 feet, thence south 62 east 418 feet to corner No. 2, thence south 209 feet to corner No. 3, thence north 62 west 418 feet to Canal. It is undoubtedly true that his constant effort on the corner No. 4, thence north 209 feet to corner No. 1 the place of begin­ subject had great weight and effect; but it is not correct, in ning, being the same as now used and occupied 1oy srud district for my judgment, to say that but for him there would have been public-school pu-rposes, and the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized and directed to issue patent for said lands to said school no canal. He was not the only one; he was not the originator district. at all of the idea that the Government should construct the The SPEAKER. Is there objection? canal. That is the only way it ever would be constructed. Mr. MADDEN. Reserving the right to object, I ask that Senator Morgan from the start was insistent upon doing some­ thing for the Nicaragua Canal Co., which had a concession. this bill go over without prejudice, as I do not see the author of the bill here. That was the way he thought the canal ought to be constructed. Mr. FERRIS. .1\fr. Ohairman, will not the gentleman reserve He was strongly in favor of the Nicaragua route and against his objection and his request? This only affects 1. 7 acres, and the Panama route. In that I always agreed with him, and I the gentleman may not be able to get the bill up again. do yet. But I am unwilling, if I can prevent it, to let some Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, I withdraw the request. one start in by erecting busts or tablets containing inscriptions alono- the line of the Panama Canal, claiming that a particular Mr. FERRIS. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that person was the author or the father of the plan. the bill be considered in the House as in Committee of the Mr. If know Whole. UNDERWOOD. the gentleman will allow me, I The SPEAKER. The gentleman ·from Oklahoma asks unani­ of no intention on the part of the people who intend to erect the tablet to say that he was the father of it. The bill says that they mous consent to consider the bill in the House as in Committee may erect this tablet with n suitable inscription on it, and, of of the Whole. Is there objection? course, that inscription must have the approval of the Secretary There was no objection. of War. I know of no intention on the part of the people to The bill was ordered to be engrossed, and read a third time, claim that John T. Morgan alone wri.s responsible for building and was accordingly read the third time, and passed. the canal. He undoubtedly is entitled to great credit for the LEASING OF UNPA.TENTED OIL OR GAS LANDS. work that he did. He was undoubtedly among the foremost men The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent of tho e who created a sentiment in the United States for the was the bill (S. 5434) authorizing the Secretary ·of the Interior legi lation that was ultimately passed, and I think_the gentle­ to grant permits to the occupants of certain unpatented lands man from Illinois is not justified in claiming that these people on which oil or gas has been discovered, and authorizing the propose to erect a tablet claiming all. the credit tor Se;nator extraction of oil or gas therefrom. Morgan, because I am sure they do not. The Clerk read the title of the bill. I _1915. ~ GONGRESSION AL RECORD-HOUSE. 3807:

The SPEAKER. Is there objection? ·Mr. -MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. STAFFORD. 1\Ir. Speaker, reserving the right to ,object, Mr. FERRIS. I do; but I ha-ve not the floor. I would like to inquire whether since we embodied this provi­ Mr. MADDEN. Will the gentleman from Wyoming yield, so sion in the omnibus bill the Supreme Court or any other court that I may ask a question? · has passed upon the cases which were pending in which these Mr. MONDELL. Yes. lands were involved? Mr. MADDEN. If this bill is passed, would it not legislate Mr. CHURCH. Mr. Speaker, I will say to the gentleman several cases out of the courts? from Wisconsin that it has not. Mr. FERRIS. No; I think not. The trouble arose over Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, I object to the consideration of this by reason of making the placer law applicable to oil lands. the bil1. I never have thought the placer law should be applied to oil; I Mr. CHURCH. Mr. Speaker, I hope the gentleman will with­ do not think it fits; and recent developments shqw that it does hold his objection for a moment, until the matter has been con­ not fit. I think this will allow these parties that are trying sidered somewhat. to get title- Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, several gentlemen seem to de· Mr. MANN rose. sire to discuss the bill, and I reserve the objection. Mr. FERRIS. I wish the gentleman would permit me to Mr. 1\fONDELL. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman hs.ve any proceed. objection to the bill going over without prejudice? . Mr. MANN. The gentleman ought not to proceed too long 1\Ir. l\IADDEN. I would not. I would be very glad to agree along that line, because the gentleman is slightly in error. to that. Mr. FERRIS. What is the error? Mr. MONDELL. l\Ir. Speaker, it is rather important that Mr. MANN. These cases do not involve a distinction between this legislation be enacted at this session of Congress. The ses­ the placer and the lode mining laws. sion is so near to a close that it is quite certain that general Mr. FERRIS. I was not stating that--. legislation on the subject will not be had; and there are quite Mr. MANN. That is what the gentleman did state. a number of cases in California and some in Wyoming that 1\fr. FERRIK No; I was not stating that; I was stating-­ would be affected by this legislation, where relief is needed. Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman from Oklahoma suggests The provision is that where a claimant for a patent desires to the difficulty arose because we applied the placer law to oil surrender his right to a patent he may, in lieu of the patent, lands. I do not think that is quite accurate; but having ap­ secure the opportunity to lease not to exceed 640 acres. . I do plied it, there are certain questions in regard to withdrawals. not undertsand why there should be any objection to the pas­ Mr. FERRIS. Let me follow up with the gentleman from sage of the bill. The House has already adopted this provision illinois [Mr. MADDEN]. This bill merely allows these people in the general leasing law. to surrender their opportunity to get a patent under that law Mr. MADDEN. Then why do they want this at this time? and take out a lease and pay royalty to the Government. Now, · Mr. MO.NDELL. Because the general leasing bill, along with the House, by an almost unanimous vote, committed itself to other meritorious legislation, is not very likely to be enacted at the proposition last summer that we should get for the Gov­ this session of Congress. It is now before the Senate, and this ernment some royalty out of these oil lands. This will make it is only a fragment of that legislation-an effort to pass a bill uniform ; this will allow the Government to get something now that covers those cases that require immediate relief. where in all probability they will not get it under the other Mr. MADDEN. Does not the gentleman think the bill is too law. The oil people-a great many of them-feel they are important to consider by unanimous consent'! losing a good deal by being compelled to take this; but they 1\Ir. MONDELL. But the bill has been fully considered by want to get their fat out of the· fire; they want to get their the House and has been approved by the House. cases tried; they want to get their peace of mind and go ahead Mr. MADDEN. It will probably have to be considered again with their business. \ Mr. MADDEN. Suppose this legislation should be enacted at the· extra session. Mr. 1\IONDELL. Not this feature of it, if we provide for it into law, what effect will that have on the litigation now ) here. It affects only a comparatively few cases; but those cases pending? I are important to ' the industry of the region in which they are Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman means the litigation in the located. In my own State, I will say to my friend, we have an Land Office? I oil field whose development just now is very greatly hampered Mr. MADDEN. In the Supreme Court. I and restricted by reason of the fact that there are some of these Mr.. FERRIS. These cases are pending in the Land Office, - entries that are under contest. which this bill remedies. They are trying to get title to land, 1\fr. MADDEN. Was the gentleman in favor of this provision but they were held up for one reason or another, and they were in the law, which he said passed the House, for leasing public held up in getting their patents. They now no longer seek lands for any purpose? patents but are willing· to relinquish and take leases instead of a patent, and this bill gives them the right to do that. Mr. 1\fONDELL. 1\Ir. Speaker, I offered it as an amendment 1\Ir. MADDEN. I think I shall have to object. Mr. Speaker, and it was adopted. That would indicate, I think, that I fa­ I object. vored it. There was some discussion in · respect to it, and I The SPEAKER. The gentleman from IUinois objects, and will ask the chairman of the Committee on Public Lands, the the bill is stricken-- gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. FERBIS], if his recollection is Mr. MONDELL. Will the gentleman consent to this bill be­ the same as mine-that the amended bill as we now have it ing passed without prejndice? before us is not in exactly the same language as the amendment Mr. 1\IADDEN. I am willing to let it go over without preju­ adopted to the general leasing bill? · dice; yes . . 1\lr. FERRIS. I think it is identical, and the gentleman from The SPEAKER. The gentleman asks unanimous consent California [Mr. CHURCH] says that it is word for word. I have that this bill be passed without prejudice. Is there objection? not compared it myself. ~he situation is this: We had two [After a pause.] 'l'he Chair hears none. · relief bills here-one for the relief of some phosphate lands in Idaho, offered by the gentleman from Idaho [Ur. FRENCH], and RIGHT OF WAY FOR PIPE LINE AND RESERVOIR, LINCOLN NATION.AL this bill that the California and Wyoming people were interested FOREST. in. By tacit agreement we put both of those bills on the gen­ The next business on the Calendar fot· Unanimous Consent eral leasing bill. That bill went to the Senate with these two was the bill (S. 2278) granting the El Paso & Rock Island amendments upon it, and, as the House knows, the Senate is Railway Co. a right of way for its pipe lines and reservoir upon blocked and is not passing anything. Consequently this bill will the Lincoln National Forest for the carrying and storage of probably not get through. water for railroad purposes. . l\Ir. MONDELL. Has not the House since allowed by unani­ The Clerk read the title of the bill. mous consent the passage of the phosphate bill? The SPEAKER. Is there objection? l\fr. FERRIS. I was just about to add that two weeks ago, 1\Ir. STAFFORD. 1\Ir. Speaker, reserving the right to object, perhaps four-in any event on one unanimous-consent day-the as I glean from the report there are some suits pending con­ Idaho bill for the relief of those parties was brought up by cerning these water rights now exercised by this railroad com­ unanimous consent and passed. I expressed the hope at that pany which are being contested by the Go-vernment. time, and I express the hope now, that this bill be passed. It 1\Ir. YOUNG of Texas. Yes; there are -some such suits. The does not affect anybody in my State, but all winter long, and bill specially provides that this legislation shall not in any man­ for the last year, people from California and Wyoming have ner affect the merits of this litigation. That provision was put journeyed away across the continent at great expense to them­ in at tile instance of the Department of Justice. selves to urge the Congress to help them out, and I think we will 1\Ir. STAFFORD. Yet it might affect the merits of this lltiga­ get a chance to get some royalty and some leases out of a -very tion. Will not the -passage of this bill supersede and obviate badly mixed-up situation. I think the House ought to do it. . the necessity of the ~urther prosecution of that case? CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-·HDUSE. FEBRUARY 15 · 3808 '

Mr. YOUNG of Texas. Oh, I do ·not ·know that:ar.ecess-arlly it 'TRADE-M.ABKS. would. _. 'T.he ':next !business on the ·Calendar for Unanlmous Consent Mr. 'STAFFORD. 1s ·no't the ·very pm:puse of this 'bill io ,grant was the ~hlll (.B. .R. 16098) a·evising and a.mendi~tg the statutes this railroad company rights which to-day th~y ;ha:re :.not? I:.elative .to .trade-mtll'ks. l\!r~ Y.OUNG of Texas. No; that is not tlle purpose in:volVed. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the con. There have been some controversies about pipe lines running sideration of the bill? . across the forest re ervation. .A 1)ermit was .issued by .the Mr. ROWARD. 1\fr. Speaker, 1 object. Department o·f Agriculture, and one of .the other llepartments .,,.....,.,."·· raised some controver.sy about it. ..This .is the only pure water 'WATER SUI!PLY OF NEV.ADATILLE, COLO. the railroad can .get for miles and :qllles, and they have gone to The next business on the Calendar for .Unanimous Consen·t hundreds of thousands of dollars of expense, and they find this was the bill (S. '2518) granting to the town of Nevadaville water on top of the mountain there, and it is the only water Colo., the right to purchase certain lands for the protection of they can use that will run the machinery without being very water supply. deleterious and -destroying the Jllachiner.'Y. The water guestinn The SPEAKER pro tempol'e. Is there objection to the con· is a very important question to-day in that particular section, sideration of tlle bill! and this bill was introduced and passed through the Senate so 1\!r. STAFFORD. Reserving the right to object, 1 would like as to eliminate this controversy .that had arisen between tb.e to mquire why this .municipality does not avail itself of the departments, !l.nd the Goverrunent is protected in every .way in privilege of the general act of February 1., 1.905. the world. . Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman .from Colorado [Mr. KEATING] 1\Ir. 1\IONDEJLL. Will the gentleman from Texas yield for rs here. He is familiar with these Colorado matters, and will an inquiry? answer · questions on the bill. The gentleman from Colorado . 1\fr. YOUNG of Texas. Yes. [1\!r. TAYLOR] is sick in bed, and could not attend the session .Mr . .MO ffiELL. Has .this .railroad ..company ever -attempted to-day. , to -secure this xight of -way under the .act of 1905 rthat n.uthor­ Mr. KEATING. I will say to the gentleman that Nevada­ izes .the use of a right of ;way fo1· water for domestic purposes? ville is .a small mining town1 and this bill .affec.ts only 1.7 1\Ir. YOUNG of Texas. As far :as I Jrnow, that act ·does not acres. go fa·r -enough to embrace Tailroads. Mr. STAFFORD. I am a ware of that fact. .Mr. MO~'TIELL. Wen, it might go far enough to embrace Mr. KEATING. And that land is .needed to protect this water for t:be purposes for w.hich .a Tailr.oad uses water. water supply. 1r. YOUNG of Texas. I .understand that act .covers mining Mr. 'STAFFORD. Although the report of the Assistant Sec­ companies ,and municipalities, and I do :not think it extends iar retary says that it affects 17,399 acres, a clear reading of the enough to .give railroads .protectien: bill sa,ys that it affects only 17 acres. Mr. STAFFORD. Why .has not this bill ;been submitted to Mr. KEATING. That is a typographical error. There should the ·department for their views? be a :period inserted after the 'figures "17 " instead of a comma. M:r. YOUNG of Texas. It has been so ·submitted. Mr. 'STAFFORD. The bill says it is only 17 acres. The re­ Me. ;STAFFORD. There is nothing in the report whiCh port carries the impression, by reason of the typographical shows that it -bas. error, that it is 17,399 acres. 1tlr. YOUNG of Texas. rlllie Secretary -of Agriculture's com­ Mr. SELDOMRIDGE. Mr. Speaker, I hope the gentleman mnmcation was 1refore the committee, .and it shows that there will not object. is no objection ±o this legislation. There were :quite extensive Mr. STAFFORD. My original question was, Why does the hearings in the Senate, and in fact the real ;hearings were llad . munic~pality not avail itself of the privilege under the law of ( over there. 1905? ' .:Mr. STAFJNHtD. Why -was it not ~ embodied :in the report, 1\fr. SELDOMRIDGE. I suppose this land 'is included in the so that Congress might have the views of the department :on forest reserve. The Government has been unwilling to allow such :a bill? them to take any land included in a· forest re erve. \ 1\fr. YOUNG of Texas. The gentleman will find ;that infor­ Mr. STAFFORD. Under the law of 1905 they are privileged mation in the hearings hefare ihe Senate committee •On this to grant right of way o er ana through a forest reserve. same proposition. Mr. 'KEATING. .As the officials of the town presented this 1\Il·. BT.AFFORD. The gerifleman knows -that these he:nings matter, they insisted lt was necessary for them to have a clear before the trnl'ious coiilliiittees aTe not easily available to title to this tract of land in order that they might put in a Members. 'There J.s no mention ihere of any such hearings. water system and issue some bonds. :ur. YOUNG of Texas. That is true; -but quite extended 'hear­ Mr. STAFFORD. Although my question has not been an­ ings were had, and 1: will ·say to the gentleman I took t:bis swered, inasmuch as it involves only a small quantity df land, matte1· ·up with representatives from that ·section of the ·country I will not object. who had the bill passed through the Senate. It is purely a local 1\Ir. KEATING. Thank you. matter to .that ection of the ·country, but it is a matter of great 1\Ir. 1\IANN. 'I notice that -section 2 says- That within one year after the survey of the fot'egoing-described importance to this railroad company. property proposed to be .granted to the -town of NevadaviUe said town 1\fr. STAFFORD. Mr. 'Speaker, I ~have no objection to lfhis may purchase said land .by :pa-ying the amount prescribed in section 1 bill being passed without prejudice, and in the meantime the hereof, .and the .Secretary of the Interior is .authorlzed and directed to gentleman can ·have a supplemental repart in which ·may be cause the same to be patented to said tbwn. contained the ideas of the department, but where there ls 1iti­ This property has not yet been surveyed, I believe. gation on ·a question ·which is at issue, and where a bill 1\i.r. KEATING. Apparently not. seeks to {)Vercome the litigation, r ·think we ought to have the Mr. :MANN. And under this authorization the town is to -pay views of the department concerning it. 'for the survey? . Mr. YOUNG .of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I will .ask that the ·bill Mr. KEATING. Yes. be passed without prejudice and that it retain its place on the Mr. MANN. Suppose it did not put in any money for the calendar. next 25 years? The authorization would still stand. Nothing The SPEAKER pro temJ)ore (Mr. RAKER-). The gentleman else could be done with the property, and they would have the from Texas asks unanimous consent that this bill be passed right within one year after the survey to purchase it. They without prejudice and that it re.tain its place on the calendar. would practically have purchased it when the bill passed. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The Chair hears none. Now, does not the gentl_eman think there ought to be some lim­ itation of time in which the survey should be made? .COPYIUGHTS. Mr. KEATING. I am perfectly willing· to accept any limita­ The next business on the Calendar for Un:inimous Consent tion the gentleman suggests, because it is the intention of the was the bill (H. R. 21137) to amend sectio~ 23 of the .act en­ town officials to carry out the transaction just as soon as pos­ titled "An act to amend nnd consolidate the acts respecting sible. copyright,H approved March 4, 1909. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the con­ T.he SPEAKER pro tempore. Is ±here ·objection to the -con­ ·sideration of the bilr? [After a _pause.] The Chair hea-rs none. sidera tion of the bill? The bfll is on tbe Union Calendar. 1\lr. MORRISON. 1\fr. Speaker, l object. 1\fr. FERRIS. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous con ent that the

Tile SPEAKER 1pro tempore. Objection is heard. The bill bill be considered in the House as in Committee of the Whole. will be stricken from the calendar. The Cle.I:k will report the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection? next bill. There was no objection. 1915. CONGRESSIONAL RECOI{.D-HOUSE. 3809

The bill was read, as follows : consideration of the House joint resolution and take from the Be it enacted, etc., That the town of Nevadaville, a municipal corpo­ Speaker's table Senate joint resolution 187. ration of the State of Colorado, is hereby granted the l'ight to purchase The SPEAKER pro t-empore.· The gentleman from California the public lands situate in the county of Clear Creek; Colo., described ns follows: Beginning at corner No. 1, from which corner the south {Mr. J. R. KNOWLAND] askS unanimous consent to discharge e.:e one-fourth corner section 32, township 2 south, range 73 west of the Committee on Foreign Affairs from the further consideration of sixth principal meridian; bears north 65° 8' 12" east 7,227.7 feet; House joint resolution 213 and consider Senate joint resolu­ thence south 46° 46' east 681 feet to corner No. 2; thence south 43o 14' west 175 feet to corner No. 3, from which corner No. 3 corner No. tion 187 in lieu of the Honse resolution. Is there objection? 1 of sun•ey No. 16,380 bears south 70° 22' east 223 feet; thence south l\Ir. l\IOORE. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, ean 46° 23' east 2,004.97 feet to corner No. 4; thence south 64° 22' east the gentleman give us some information in rBgard to this? 730 feet to corner No. 5, from which corner th~ soutJ? ~ne-fourt~ corner section 32, township 2 south, range 73 west suth prme1pal rn~n­ 1\Ir. MA1\TN. This is similar to the resolution which the gen­ dian, bears north 36° 3'3' 21" east 6,719.17 feet; thence south 52° o5' tleman from Pennsylvania had in reference to the International west 256 feet to corner No. 6, from which corner No. 6 corner No. 1 Educational Congress to be held at Philadelphia. of snrvey No. 19,015 bears south 60° 50' east 113.6 feet; thence north 61 o 18' 43" west 675.23 feet to corner No. 7; thence nortli 44° 59' west Mr. LOGUE. Which was to be held last September, bot 2,095.1 feet to corner No. 8; thence south 43° 14' west 175 feet to cor­ which was called -off on account of the war. ner No. 9; thence north 46° 46' west 681 feet to corner No. 10; thence Mr. MOORE. And His to be held in San Francisco? north 43° 14' east 500 feet to corner No. 1, the place of beginning: all of said land bein~ situate in unsubdivided township 3 south, range. 73 Mr. J. R. KNOWLAND. In Oakland, Cal. west o( the sixth principal meridian (the survey of said land bemg Ur. :MOORE. I have no objection. bounded at its corner with rock monuments chiseled " N1, N2, N3, N4, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the re~ N5, N6, .N7, N8, N9, N10," consecutively), and containin~ 19.47~ + acres, of which 2.075 acres under survey No. 16,380 are ill conflict, quest of the gentleman from California? leaving a total of 17.399 acres, more or less, upon the payment of $1.25 Mr. CLINE. Reserving· the right to object, Mr. Speaker, r per acre by said town to the United States. . would like to inquire of the gentleman from California if this SEC. 2. That within one year after the survey of the foregomg-dc­ scribed property proposed to be granted to the town of Nevadav.me, Senate resolution provides for an appropriation? said town may purchase said lands by paying the m~ounts p~escr1bed Ur. J. R. KNOWLAND. No. It is the identical bill. No in section 1 hereof and the Secretary of the Interior 1s authortzed and appropriation is contained in it. directed to cause tbe same to be patented to said town. SEC. 3. That the grant tereby made is, and the patent .issued here­ Mr. MANN. Let us have the Senate joint resolution read, under shall be, subject to all legal rights heretofore acqmred by .any Mr. Speaker. person or persons in or to the above described premi es, or any part The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the Sen­ thereof, and now existing under and by virtue of the laws of the United States or of the State of Colorado: Provided, That there is reserved ate joint resolution. to the United States all gas, oil, coal, and other mineral dep~sits and the The Clerk read as follows: right to prospect for, mine, and remove the sa~e: And Pl'!JVttled fU1'1he~·, ResQZ.-r;ed, etc., That tbe President of the United States is hereby That the cost of the survey. mentioned in section 2 of th1s act, shall ~e authorized -and requested to invite foreign Governments to appoint hon­ paid by the said town of Nevadaville: And provided furt1ter, Tb~~ ill orat·y vice presidents and -otherwise participate in the International the event said lands are ever abandoned and not used for moDIClP!il Congre!;s on Education, to be held at Oakland, Cal., August 16 to 27, purposes all right, title, and interest therein to be conveyed to the smd 101u, in connection with the Panama-Pacific International Exposition: town of Nevadaville by this act shall be forfeited and the same shall .Protided, That no appropriation shall be granted at any time hereafter revert to the United States. · in connection with said congl'ess. Mr. UANN. Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection? The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Illinois There was no objection. offers an amendment which the Clerk will report. Mr. 1\fil'N. Mr. Speaker, I would like to be recognized for The Clerk read as follows : a moment. Pa.ge 3, line 22 1 after the word "Nevadav1lle," insert the words: The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair will recognize the ''.And within two years after the passage of this act." gentleman from illinois for five minutes. Mr. MANN. That is in order to save time. l\Ir. MANN. No; I am recognized for one hour, bu-:: I shall Mr. KEATING. I want to make this suggestion to the gen­ not consume it. Was this International Congress on Education tleman from Illinois. It has just occurred to me that the situ­ held at Philadelphia? ation in the Senate is such that I am afraid we will never get Mr. MOORE. No; it was not held. the Senate to concur in the proposed amendment on account of l\Ir. LOGUE. It was called off· en account of the liluropean the parliamentary situation there. I ha'e absolutely no objec­ war. tion to the amendment. It seems to me the survey would have Mr. 1\IANN. Then all the labor that the two gentlemen from to be ordered by the Secretary of the Interior, and that he Pennsylvania performed last summer was of no avail and went could fix the time when the survey should be made. for naught? Mr. l\fANN. He can not survey it until the town puts up 1\Ir. l\IOORE. The bill was passed. the money. They might not put up the money under this bill Mr. LOGUE. It was called off. for 50 years. Mr. MA~"N. A great deal of time was spent ·on that. Does .Mr. KEATING. My <>nly objection is that it might be tied my fiiend from California [Mr. J. R. KNoWL.A.ND] understand up in the Senate. that it really will be held at Oakland this year? Mr. MANN. That applies to so many bills-- Mr. J. R. KNOWL.Al\TD. I ha~e been advised by numerous Mr. KEATING. But this is such a small matter. However, telegrams that the people of Oakland will be, as they always we will take our chances. have been, ready for the entertainment of their guests. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on agreeing 1\Ir. MA.1\'N. I understand that there are somewhere between to th-e amendment. 117 and 170 different con\entions and congresses, and so forth, The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. to be held at the Panama-Pacific Exposition during the coming The bill as amended was ordered to be read a third time, was summer. Wbere will the delegates come from? Certainly the read the third time, and passed. · European nations at war will not be sending delegates to this The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the next international congress. bill. Mr. .J. R. KNOWLA~"D. Oh, I think there will .be some. INTERNA'i'TONAL CONGRESS OF EDUCATION. 'There will be a good many from the United States, and, I think, The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent some foreigners will be able to attend All the nations are not was the House joint resolution 273, requesting the President at war. · of the United States to invite foreign Governments to partici­ Mr. .MA1\'N. boes the gentleman know whether each one of pate in the International Congress on Education. these congresses is going to ask the Congress to authorize the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to considera­ President to invite representatives of each of the nations of the tion of the resolution? [After a pause.] The Chair hears world to attend each congress at the ~xpense of the delegates none. The Clerk will report the resolution. and not at the expense of our Government? The Clerk read the resolution, as follows: Mr. J. R. KNOWLA},"D, I think that is specifically stated Resolved by the Senate and House of Rept·esentatives of tne United in the resolution. States of America in Congress assemb1ed, That the President of the Mr. MANN. I know about this one, but I am trying to get United States is hereby authorized and requested to invite foreign Gov­ information as to the others. ernments to appoint honorary vice presidents and otherwise participate in the International Congress on Education, to be held at Oakland, 1\Ir. J . R. KNOWLAl\TD. Congress is within 16 days of clos­ Cal., August 16 to 27, 1915, in connection with the ranama-Pacifi.c ing, and I do not think there will be much opportunity afforded International Exposition : Pt·amded, That no appropriation shall be for passing other resolutions of this character. granted at any time hereafter in connection with said congress. 1\Ir. MANN. Well, as soon as this resolution in the House Mr. J. R. KNOWLAND. Mr. Speaker, the Senate joint reso­ was restored to the calendar recently, it having been stricken lution 187 having passed the Senate, I ask unanimous consent · from it by mistake some time ago, I received several communi­ to discharge the Committee on Foreign Affairs from further cations from different portions of the country in reference to 3810 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUARY other congresses, with suggestions that other international The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on agreeing to congresses would, also like to have the President invite delegates the committee amendment. from foreign countries to attend those congresses. I think the Mr. FERRIS. 1\fr. Speaker, the bill is on the Union Calendar. people who sent the letters to me did not know, perhaps, that I ask unanimous consent that it be considered in the House as this resolution provided that the delegates should come at their in Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union. own expense. Maybe that makes a difference. Mr. MANN. I object. I have some amendments to offer. Mr. KENT. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield to me a Mr. FERRIS. Then, Mr. Speaker, I move that the House re­ moment? solve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the state 1\lr. MANN. Certainly. of the Union for the consideration of the bill H. R. 19116, objec­ Mr. KENT. In reference to the gentleman's question as to tion baving been made. the possibility of people going there, I received a letter from The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the con­ one of the big universities of California in which the writer sideration of the bill in the Committee of the Whole House on stated that be considered this as very important, inasmuch as the state of the Union? be expected a great many people to come from Europe. 1\Ir. MANN. I objected. A motion is pending. Mr. MANN. I do not object now to this as it comes toward Mr. FERRIS. I made the motion, Mr. Speaker. the end of Congress, and as the gentleman from California The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. J·. R. KNO WLAND], from the Oakland district, suggests, [Mr. FERRis] moves that the House resolve itself into Com­ there is not very much time for all the others to make a request. mittee of the Whole House on the state of the Union for the I never have belie1ed, and do not now believe, in having the purpose of considering the bill H. R. 19116. The question is on Government of the United States invite people to attend some­ agreeing to that motion. thing at their own expense. The motion was agreed to. ~fr. J. R. KNOWLAI\ru. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from illinois yield? [Mr. FosTER] will take the chair. .Mr. MANN. Yes. Accordingly the House resolved itself into Committee of the Mr. J. R. KNOWLAND. I think we did at the Chicago Ex­ Whole House on the state of the Union for the consideration of position in 1893. the bill H. R. 19116, with Mr. FosTER in the chair. 1\Ir. MANN. Well, I know that the gentleman does not know, The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the bill. and I myself do n·ot know whether they did or not. Mr. FERRIS. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to Mr. J. R. KNOWLAND. The report so states. dispense with the first reading of the bill. It was read a Mr. MANN. Well, the report was written by a gentleman moment ago. who did not know. I think the Government entertained quite ·a The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Oklahoma asks unani­ good many people at the Chicago Exposition, invited from mous consent to dispense with the first reading of the bill. Is abroad; and if the gentleman has any doubt about that, I will there objection? refer him to the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. ToWNSEND], There was no objection. who, in one of his "Chimmie Fadden" articles positively as­ Mr. MANN. Will the gentleman explain this bill a little more serts, in a very humorous manner, that that was the case. fully! The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection? Mr. FERRIS. I will give the gentleman the explanation that There was no objection. I have. It simply authorizes the city of Grand Junction to buy The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the third 640 acres of unoccupied, rough, billy land at $1.25 an acre, the reading of the Senate joint resolution. usual Government price, for the pnrpose of protecting the water The Senate joint resolution was ordered to be read a third supply of the city. The bill was referred to the department, time, was read the third time, and passed. and the department made a favorable report on it, and the com­ Mr. MANN. Now, Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent mittee made a unanimous report I will say, parenthetically, that House joint resolution 273 be again stricken from the that the author of the bill is sick to-day and is not here. calendar and laid on the table. Mr. MANN. That is one reason why we did not object to the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, it will be so consideration of it. If he bad been here he would have excited ordered. opposition. There was no objection. Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman from Colorado [Mr. SELDoM­ Tl;le SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the next RIDGE] is here, however, and he can perhaps respond to any one. question the gentleman may wish to ask. GRANT OF CERTAIN LANDS TO GRAND JUNCTION, COLO. Mr. MANN. I do not care especially to ask the gentleman from Colorado about the bilL I should like to ask the gentle­ The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent man from Oklahoma. We have passed so many of these bills, was the bill (H. R. 19116) to g1~ant ce~tain lands to the city of I should like to ask the gentleman is there no way under which Grand Junction, Colo., for the prot~ction of its water supply. the town can make a purchase of Government land? The title of the bill was read. Mr. FERRIS. Under the act of 1905 they can procure rights The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there ·objection? of way, but there is no general act under which they can buy Mr. MANN. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, let land for watershed purposes, and each case has to stand on its us ba ve the bill reported. own bottom apparently. Some one raised that question in the The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the bill. committee a short time ago, and suggested that we ought to The Clerk read as follow ~ : pass a general act It was our thought that the calendars were Be it enacted, etc., That the Secretary of the Interior is hereby au­ conge ted with about 400 bills and that a bill of that kind would thorized and directed to convey to the city of Grand Junction, in the probably provoke discussion and debate, and we felt unwilling county of Mesa and State of Colorado, section 34, township 12 south, range 97 west of the sixth principal meridian, in said county and State, to bring that up in the House. to have and to hold said lands for the purpose of the protection of the Mr. :MA:r-..TN. Could not anybody take possession of the land 1 head gate of the water-supply pipe lines and watet·works system of said Mr. FERRIS. Anybody C

Ur. FERRIS. Tllat is true. .Mr. SELDOMRIDGE. I think that is the condition. 1\ir. MANN. Is there no other way of obtaining title to this Mr. MANN. The bill as inh·oduced did not provide for an~ land except by homestead entry? such exemption. I suppose somewhere some stockman kicks be-· Mr. FERRIS. If this was desert land they could make a cause he does not want to go around half a mile farther with desert entry on it and then buy it, but in order to do that they his stock. I should say that the protection of the water sup­ would ha\e to show that it was irrigable, and then put water ply of a city like Grand Junction was of more importance than on it. the convenience of some stockman. Mr. MANN. Can you not obtain desert land until you can Mr. SELDOMRIDGE. Has the gentleman read the report? show that it is irrigable? Mr. MANN. Oh, yes; I ha-ve read the report. .Mr. FERRIS. No; and you actually· have got to put the Mr. FERRIS. Will the gentleman yield? water on it before you can get it. Mr. MANN. Yes. l\Ir. MAJ\TN. They could put water on it, I suppose. That is Mr. FERRIS. I know the gentleman is always right, and he ' what this is for, to maintain the water supply, or a water reser­ probably has his powder dry in this instance; but where did the voir. There is a water pipe that will run through it, is there gentleman get the idea that this is cattle trail? not? Mr. Mfi~. The report on page 2 says: Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman knows that the rainfall is very It appears to your committee that for some 25 years past certain sHght up there, and they must have a large area to catch the stockmen and ranchmen have constructed and used a trail extending­ snow that falls in the winter. I know that the House has been from th~ valley below np to the highlands beyond and across a portion to the trouble of considering a good many bills of this kind, and of this land. no doubt it is annoying to the gentleman from Illinois to have Mr. FERRIS. That is sufficient. them come up continually. Mr. MANN·. I would like to ask one further question. I Mr. MANN. I will say that nothing in the way of legislation suppose it is the intention, probably, of the city to purchase the eYer annoys me. I take it as it comes. entire 640 acres, but the bill provides- 1\Ir. FERRIS. The thought ·I was trying to leave was this, That the said city of Grand Junction shaill pay for said lands, or such that these lands have no value for homestead purposes. They portions thereof as it may need for said purpose, at the rate of $1.25 haYe no value as desert-land claims. They have no value for per acre. anything on earth, as I believe, other than they may have some Should they not pay for the entire 640 ae1·es within some mineral under them, or that they may be used to protect the limit of time? water heds of these cities, so that they may h.ave pure water. Mr. FERRIS. I think so. I do not know whether the land . Mr. MANN. As I understand, this bill is for the purpose of has been surveyed or not. retaining this land as a watershed, to furnish pure water to Mr. .MANN. It must have been surveyed or they could not this city. describe it as section 34, township. 12 south, range 97 west of Mr. FERRIS. I so understand. the sixth principal meridian. 1\.Ir. MANN. And yet it contains a provision that a trail shall Mr. FERRIS. I do not know what the facts are ab.out thai:y continue across the land for the purpose of having cattle travel but if the gentleman has an amendment he wi-shes to offer I do: O\er it. It does not seem to me that would be "Very appro­ not think the gentleman from Colorado [Mr. TAYLOR] would priate for a 640-acre watershed, to leave it so that the ranch­ object to it. men in th.at country could run their cattle over it. That would Mr. MANN. I expect to offer an amendment striking out, no.t be my idea of pure water. commencing in line 11, page 1, the words " or such portions 1\ir. FERRIS. I confess there is -very much force in what thereof as it may need for said purpose," and then insert after the gentleman says. Still it is better to have one road ac-ross the word "shall," line 11, the words "within [stating the time] it than it would be to have people camp on it and hold their from the passage of this act." cattle on it overnight. The report also states that they have a Mr. FERRIS. I feel sure that ther.e will be no objection to caretaker. The city of Grand Junction is under the commission that.

fo:rm of government, and it has a caretaker who can look after ·Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Chairman1 this legislation should be it without additional expense. Whne the gentleman from had. It is regrettable that we have not some general legisla­ Colorad-o could tell better than I, it is probably some old trail tion on this subject. As I understand it, the Committee on. the that they would have trouble about if they should close it up. Public Lands has had under consideration for some time gen­ There are many mountain passes up there that must be preserved. eral legislation on the subject. I think such a bill was re­ I think they can handle a local matter of that kind. It is ported out at one time, bnt for some reason or other it was n.o_t worthless land. They want it; they need it. Pure water is passed. always important. Mr. Chairman, I feel like protesting against the restrictions Mr. SELDOMRIDGE. While I am not personally acquainted we place around transfers to municipalities of land of the with the land in question, · I know that Grand Junction has con­ character of this description. This tract, as I understand, is structed its waterworks at some distance from the city, and very rough, mountainous land, through which a deep canyon these lands are evidently located several miles, perhaps 10 or runs. It has a little brush on it and, probably, is not worth !5 miles, away from the city. The trail probably leads up more than the price fixed-$1.25 an acre-if it is worth tha-t. It through the canyon to a place otherwise inaccessible, so that it has never been considered valuable enough to tempt anyone to is necessary to preserve this convenient means of travel to the homestead it. The probability is that no portion of it is fit for section. of cotmtry that is reached by it. The purpose of getting cultivation; it is just a scrubby, brushy canyon-cut mountain­ the land, as I understand it, is to furnish protection to the side. We are selling it to a municipality, to a collection of water supply and allow the city to exercise police pow~r over American citizens who are going to hold it in their collective tlle land. capacity, and yet we throw as many restricti-ons about it as· if Mr. MANN. I can not understand how it will furnish pro­ we were proposing to sell it to some grasping corporation that tection to the water supply to have 640 acres of land, over which we thought was going to utilize it for tlie purpose of holding there is a cattle trail, where large numbers of cattle are con­ up the community. · stantly passing. That is to me a queer id.ea. We first provide that if, perchance, any minerals shall be .1\Ir. SELDO:'!IRIDGE. Prob:ably the city does not want t(} found they shall be re erved to the United States. Now, in all interfere with the only route of travel that exists. probability the land does not contain any minerals. I assume 1\fr. l\IANN. I suspect that the city does want to interfere. that no one has ever suggested that it contains minerals. So Mr. SELDO:\IRIDGEl The bill will leave the trail open. this reservation is entirely superfluous; but it has this effect: Mr. MANN. Yes; but that is one objection to the bill. What We are granting land which is to be used for the protection of sense is there in giving -to a city the right to 640 acres of land the water supply, in order that the city may keep trespassers for the purpose of letting it have pure water and at the same off the tract and protect it, to prevent pollution of the water time provide for a cattle trail over it? supply, and we place in the law a provision which invites tres­ 1\Ir. SELDO~!RIDGE. It is not exactly a cattle trail. passers, jnvites evil-intentioned persons to go on the tract este~­ Mr. 1\fANN. I imagine it is for the purpose of accommodating) sibly for prospecting after any or -every sort of mineral, going some private persons. up there and camping under pretense of _prospecting, and liable Mr. SELDOl\fRIDG.ID. The gentleman would not want to to commit all sorts of depredations under the pretext of pros­ discontinue the only possible route for travel in going into the pecting, if they are so disposed. mountains with pack animals, would he? This trail would bear If we were disposing of this land to an individual, there might the same relation as a public road in a narrow canyon. be some excuse for 'this mineral reservation. As a matter of Mr. 1\I.AJ\TN. If there could not be a truil put anywhere else, fact, there is probably no excuse for mineral reservation even the gentleman's remarks wo·uld be fully appropriate; but that is in such a case, because the lands contain no minerals, as far what I want to know. as anybody knows. The geological formation is such tbat there 3812· CONGRESSIONAL :RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUARY 15, is not the remotest probability of any mineral being-found· under using this lease of land for the purpose denominated in the the surface. But dealing with American citizens collectively, Qill, and if so, bow long have they been so using it? a municipality, for the purpose of enabling them to pr.otect Mr. FERRIS. They are really not using it at all. It bas their water supply, we insist on reserving all kinds and sorts of been vacant land, and they desire to use it as a part of their minerals, as· though they actually might sometime be found, watershed. ~nd by so .doing we invite every persot;t who. in good faith may Mr. FOWLER. Ha\e they ever used it for the purpose of seek to prospect, every · blackmailer, every person who for any a watershed to supply the city with water? reason might desire to go on the lands under pretense that.they Mr. FERRIS. Ob, no. They do not own it. It is public were prospeCting, to interfere with the protection of the water land. Anybody could, if they desire, go upon it and enter it. supply. · Mr. FOWLER. They may ha-re been using the water from Then, although the land is worthless, simply a square mile it even though it is public land. . · serving to hold the surface of the earth together, made up of 1\Ir. FERRIS. I presu.rpe they have, inadvertently.· brush, canyon, and rock of no value-nobody wants it, nobody has Mr. FOWLER. It has occurred to me that they might want homesteaded "it-if tlie. city shall nof use it for these particular to get across that particular tract of land to & more desirable purposes we propose to ·take it back, not that we have any use tract of land for the purpose of supplying the city with water. for it, _not ~at we know that anyone will ever want it or desire 1\Ir. FERRIS. , That may be true. The House is unfortunate it or have any particular reason for utilizing it, but if the city in not having the exact · information at hand regarding this shall not use it for this particular purpose, for the protection of trail. . its water supply, we propose to take it back. We throw around 1\fr. FOWLER. The reason I am led to that conclusion is be­ a grant of this kind-of rocky, brushy hillside-more regulations cause the sanitary conditions of the tract of land are not very and provisions which may be harmful, in disposing o! it to a well preserved by the bill, and it occurred to me that perhaps community i~ its community capacity, than would be necessary the city did not want the land for the purpose of the watershed were we disposing of something that really might become very to furnish water, but as a right of way over which they might valuable to some grasping corporation that might use the values go to a more desirable fountain of water supply. · for the purpose of holding_up the community. . Mr. FERRIS. They have the power to get the right of way . Mr. Chairman, I realize that the gentlemen on the Committee under another act, without coming to Congress, so that I be­ on the Public Lands understand that only by inserting all of these lieve the gentleman's presumption would hardly be correct. An re erYations and provisions with regard to the extinguishment act was passed in 1905 authorizing cities to get rights of way of the title for nonuse can legislation of this kind be gotten without corning to Congress. So it could not be for that purpose. through the House. I presume they are probll;.bly correct in 1\Ir. FOWLER. It is not very clear in the bill, and no in­ their view of the matter. It seems to me that we .have arrived formation has been given which is clear, as to the real intent at a peculiar state of mind in the House when it is necessary to of the purchase of this land by the city. . have all of these conditions and limitations surrounding the Mr. FERRIS. Mr. Chairman, I think the gentleman is in transfer from all of the people to part of the people of a tract error in that. The bill and the report are clear on those points, of rocky, barren, practically worthless hill land. but we are unfortunate in not being able to tell .the gentleman .Mr. STAFFORD rose. . about this road, and the committee bas gladly confessed that The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman desire to be recog- inability to the gentleman and to the gentleman from Illinois nized in his own right? [Mr. MANN] and the gentleman · from Wisconsin [Mr. STAF­ 1\fr. STAFFORD. I do. FORD], owing to the absence of the gentleman from Colorado Mr. FERRIS. How long does the gentleman desire! [Mr. TAYLOR] . ' Mr. STAFFORD. I do not intend to consume very much Mr. FOWLER. The conflict between the hfgb purpose which time. is urged for ~be purchase of this land and the promiscuous use 1\fr. FERRIS. I desired to ask unanimous consent to close the permitted by the bill which might defeat that high purpose is general debate. of such a character that it does not appear to Members who are Mr. STAFFORD. I think the gentleman will get it closed not ilcquainted with conditions there that it is the real purpose more quickly by having me proceed now. to use this land for a watershed. · . · . Mr. FERRIS. Very well. Mr. · FERRIS. About that there can be no question. The Mr. STAFFORD. I wish to inquire of the chairman of the city needs this as a part of their watershed. They have asked committee the reason why they embodied the following proviso : for it. The city council bas asked for it and the officials of the And provided fttrtller, That the grant herein contained shall not be city who have appeared before us asked for it. This road construed to deprive the public the right to continue the use of what is matter is the only part of the bill I am not familiar with. I known as the Kannah Creek trail across said land. assume it is some local matter, some mountain pass or some~ .l\lr. FERRIS. 1\Ir. Chairman, I do not know what the trail thing of that kind, and if the gentleman: feels it is wrong or is, I do not know how important it is, and I do not know why has any doubt about,the matter he can move to strike it out it was suggested. It was suggested by the department, 11;.nd it when the time arrives. was in obedience to their suggestion that we reserT"ed it. · The Mr. FOWLER. I shall not do so, because I feel the commit­ information is that the city has a caretaker who lives on the tee knows more about it than I do. I know nothing whatever land and can protect these watersheds. I presume it is a moun­ ahout this; although I ba ve been to Grand Junction and I know tain pass or something that could not well be closed, although something about the surroundings there, and it appears to me that is an assumption upon my part. that the practical effect the bill pretends to seek is not very Mr. STAFFORD. 1\fr. Chairman, I think the gentleman is in clearly defined. error when he states that it was suggested or recommended by 1\fr. Chairman, I do not agree with my colleague from Wyo­ the department. I direct his attention to the letter of the Sec­ ming [Mr. MoNDELL] in his remarks concerning the disposition retary of the Interior, as found on page 2 of the report, wherein of real estate. Apparently he objects to the limitations sur­ the Secretary makes some suggestions, but in those suggestions rounding this purchase, or proposed -purchase, by the city of nothing is contained as to this reservation -of the rights to this Grand Junction. It never was intended by the wonderful God trail. Some person outside, other than the Secretary, and out­ of all that any one man or any set of men should get a monop­ side of the department, has made that suggestion . oly of what is known to be the greatest physical inheritance . 1\fr. FERRIS. Perhaps the gentleman is right. The depart­ that men ever had. The right of a man to have a home ought ment made the suggestion with reference to the mineral reser­ to be preserved in the State; the State has title to the land vation; and as I look at it again I think the gentleman is in republics, the king in absolute forms of government. The right. There are two provisos there, and it was my thought that State ought to see that the real estate shall never be hedged the committee copied them verbatim; but it seems the gentle­ about by the control of the few against.the rights of the many, man is right. The mineral reservations were suggested by the and if a State bas permitted such to be done it becomes the department and the committee adopted them. solemn duty of the State to remedy such wrongs and see that Mr. STAFFORD. The committee adopted the recommenda­ the real estate is held for homesteads for the poor. To do tions of the department, but added another proviso for which otherwise- it is difficult to find any suggestion, so far as the department is Mr. MONDELL. Will the gentleman yield? concerned. Mr. FOWLER. In a moment-to do otherwise is a violation .l\lr. FERRIS. It is unfortunate that the author of the bill of the divine gift from heaven to man. Now I will yield to the who knows about this is sick and unable to be here to-day. · gentleman from Wyoming. 1\fr. STA.FFORD. It is a ~inor matter, and I presume it Mr. MONDELL. I agree with what the gentleman has does not impair the general _provisions of· the bill. I will not said-- press tile inquiry further. I reserre the balanc~ of my time. 1\fr. FOWLER. I onJy yielded for a que tion. Mr. FOWLER. ~Ir. Chairman, I desire to inquire of the gen­ Mr. MONDELL. And much ndmire bis eloquence, but there tleman from Oklahoma if the city of Grand Junction is now is no reservation here of a homestead right. So far as home- 1915: CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE.

stead rights are concerned, they are wiped out and obliter~ted The Clerk read as follows :· by this legislation. There is a reservation here. in the :Umted Page 1, line 11, after the word "lands," strike out the words "or States as against the good people of Grand Junction to mmerals such portions thereof as it may need for said purpose." that are not there. · . Mr. FERRIS. Mr. Chairman, let ·me make a suggestion to the Mr. FOWLER. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Wyommg gentleman on that. I can think of a case where there might be has lost sight of the necessity for preserving real estate for some objection to adopting that. Suppose that only :!:lalf the homes instead of allowing it to go into the hands of corpora­ land fell into the walershed at all, and the other half carried tions. ' Municipal corporations ha\e no more right to .acquire the water off in another' direction, does the gentleman think, large areas of land and hold them in deference to the nghts of then, that the land ought not to be used for its proper p~rpose inditiduals than private corporations have. One of the greatest on the other side; that is, mining, or grazing, or such other uses acts that was done by Napoleon was the division of the real as it might be put to, and not compel the city to buy something ' estate of France into small tracts and placing them within easy to hold in idleness-something it did not want? · reach of the French peasants. That was one of tJ;te grea~ re~­ l\Ir. MANN. If the gentleman's supposition was correct, the sons why France was able to pay the wonderful mdemmty m criticism would be correct. . The statement, however, is, that 1872 imposed on her by Germany. this land is valueless so far as.its use for anything else is con­ . 1\lr. McKENZIE. · Will my colleague yield? . cerned. They take the water from Kannah Creek and on this 1\lr. FOWLER. In a moment. The gentleman from Wyommg section they have what is called a head gate. This is some dis­ objects to this land going back to the United States in case the tance from the city, and there the water pipe starts and carries city of Grand Junction shonld cease to use it for a watershed the water to the city of Grand Junction. Well, I doubt whether supply. What could be more sensible than to let it go back to any of this section · can be used if the city should just get ~e the real owner? What does Grand Junction-want with it now land right around the head gate. Now, they say they want to except to keep the people supplied, according to the terms of buy it alL I am willing to sell it all to them, but I doubt this bill, with water, and as soon as that necessity has ceased, whether it would be fair to the Government and the rest of the then the real estate ought to go back where it came from, to the land. to sell just a little bit of it right ·around the head gate State to be held for the purpose of use in the future, whether and right along the line of the creek. · , for ntlneral purposes, homestead, or otherwise. Real estate Mr. FERRIS. I can see how that wonld work an unfair­ ought not to be perpetuated in large tracts in the bands of the ness. I only thought of a supposititious case. few. Corporations ought not to be permitted to hold ~eal ~state Mr. MANN. They stated they wanted to purchase the whole except for the purpose of their business; manufacturmg md:us­ section. There are no adverse rights. ' tries may own the ground on which their pl~ts re~t; bank~ng The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered institutions may hold the ground on which their bus~ness bui~d­ by the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. MANN). · ings rest· but no country will ever be prosperous wh1ch permits The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. the few to gobble up the real estate and hold it agai~st. the Mr. FERRIS. 1\Ir. Chairman, I move that the committee do rights of the many. I now yield to my colleague from Illmo1s. now rise and report the bill favorably . . Mr. McKENZIE. I understand thls bill is for the purpose. of The motion was agreed to. granting certain lands to the municipality o~ Grand Junction Accordingly the committee rose; and the Speaker having re­ for the protection of its water supply. I desire to ask my ~o~­ sumed the chair, 1\Ir. FOSTER, Chairman of the Committee of the league if he does not believe it is perfectly proper for mumci­ Whole House on the state of the Union, reported that the com­ palities to control tracts of land, even large tracts of land, for mittee had had under consideJ,"ation the bill (H. R. 19116) to park purposes and for the protection of a water supply, and grant certain lands in the city of Grand Junction, Colo., for the if the control of the same does not inure to the interests of the protedion of its water supply, and had directed him to report people. . · lit' the same back to the House with certain amendments, with the Mr FOWLER Oh certainly· th~t is true. 1\Iumc1pa 1es recommendation that the amendments be agreed to and that ought to have an opportunity u; see that sanita~y conditio~s the bill as amended do pass. prevail within their limits, and that is always des1r~ble; but. 1t is never desirable to bold large tracts of land agamst the m­ The SPEAKER." Is a separate vote demanded on any amend­ ment? If not, the Chair will put them en gross. · terest of individuals so as to deprive them of homesteb.ds. The The amendments were agreed to. happiest place in the world is the place which a man can call The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a his home. [Applause. 1 third time, ·was read the third time, and passed. MESSAGE FRO:llf THE SENATE. On motion of Mr. FEBRIS, a motion to reconsider the \Ote by The committee informally rose; and Mr. STOUT having taken which the bill was passed was laid on the table. the chair as Speaker pro tempore, a message from the Senate, by Mr. Tulley, one -of its clerks, announced that the Sen.ate had UNAPPROPRIATED LANDS IN NORTH DAKOTA. concurred. in the request of the House of Representatives for Mr. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous, consent to the return of the enrolled bill (S. 7555) to authorize the con­ have printed in the RECORD a concurrent resolution adopted by struction of a bridge across the Suwanee River, in the State of the Legislative Assembly of the State of North Dakota, pertain­ Florida. ing to legislation for the purpose of assisting in settling up un­ GRANT OF CERTAIN LANDS TO GRAND JUNCTION, COLO. appropriated lands in North Dakota and the West. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from North Dakota asks The committee resumed its session. unanimous consent to extend his remarks in the RECORD by pub­ 1\Ir. MANN. Mr. Chairman, I move to amend the committee lishing certain resolutions of the North Dakota Legislature in amendment by inserting, in line 18, after the word "public," the reference to settling up the wild lands there. Is there objec­ word "of.'' tion? [After a pause.) The Chair hears none. The CHAIRl\1Al'{. The Clerk will report the amendment. The following is the joint resolution: The Clerk read. as follows: Amend the committee amendment by inserting after the word STATE OF NORTH DAKOTA., "Public," in line 18, the word "of."" - DEPARTMENT OF STATE. I Thomas Hall Secretary of State of the State of North Dakota The question was taken, anrl the amendment was agreed to. and keeper of the' great seal thereof, hereby certify that the attached . The question was taken, and the committee amendment as is a true and correct copy of a certain concurrent resolution adopted amended was agreed to. by the Fourteenth Legi~lative Assembly of the State of North Dakota and the whole of such resolution. · Mr. MANN. l\fr. Chairman, I move, page 1, line 11, after the In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the word " shall," to insert the words " at least two years from the great seal of the State at the capitol, in the city of Bismarck, this passage of this act." lOth day of February, A. D. 1915. The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendment. (SEAL.] THOMAS HALL, Secretary of State. The Clerk read as follows: A concurrent resolution (McClellan). Amend on page 1, by inserting after the word "shall," in line 11, the Be it t·esoZ1;ed by the House of Rep1·esentati~:es of the State of Nort11 words " within two years aftet• the passage of this act." Dakota (the Senate co1u:urring), That- Whereas there are now in the western part of North Dakota about The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered 673 000 acres of rough, broken; and nonirrigable vacant Government by the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. MANN]. . land more suitable for grazing and stock raising than for any other The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. purpose; and Whereas the steady development of the West has been dependent. upon Mr. MANN. Now, I move to strike out, commencing with line and built up by actual settlers and homesteaders who came west for 11, the language "or such portions thereof as it may need for the purpose of finding homes for the support and maintenance of said purpose/' . themselves and families; .and ·. . The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Illinois offers an Whereas the occupation and sett~ement of tp.ese v~cant lands ~ill ill · time, through taxation and ~tber .sourc~s. mure to the ben':flt of the -amendment, which the Clerk will report. counties and whole country ill which said lands are located, and 3814 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE .. FEBRUARY 157:

Whereas practically aJl the agricultural lands in the thlrd congressional is working in that direction-wanted to build eight new vessels district of the State of North Dakota have been selected and are now occupied by actual ettlers; and · this year, or only six, or only two. Whereas the balance of the unoccupied lands are quite rough and Mr. ADAMSON. I have always voiced my protest against broken and consists mostly of what are commonly known as the Bad Lands and principally valuable for stock raising; and using economy on the small matters from my committee only, Whereas there is a shortage of beef throughout the land as a result of and letting extravagance run wild on other things. If gent!~ stock raising having been neglected for agricultural pursuits; and men woaid use it on the large matters that come in in millions, Whereas the balance of this land, if assigned in proper quantities, will yet support hundreds of families ; and on the large propositions, it seems to me, with less hurt to any Whereas we believe an act can and should be passed by Congress which of them, we would do a great deal on the side of saving, and will grant each settler a sufficient acreage of said lands as will com­ still grant the little authorizations from . my committee. fortably support a family by mixed farming and stock raising thereon, and which act might· be drafted along the line of the 640-acre stock­ Mr. l't!ANN. I vote for economy on the large measures. I raising homestead bill No. 15799, which was introduced during the am not sure that my friend always does. second session of the Sixty-third Congress of the United States, and Mr. ADAMSON. Oh, yes. in which thet·e is incorporated a classification clause which would leave absolutely no grounds for the act to monopolize lands coming Mr. MANN. I have in every case. I notice the half-million under the 160-acre or 320-acre acts; and dollar items mount up if there are enough of them. Whereas it has come to our notice that a movement was no foot to Mr. ADAMSON. There are not many. Our committee bas have Congress pass a law to have· said Government lands granted to the State for leasing purposes, and to also pass a national leasehold jurisdiction of a few things that go to the vitals of the Gov­ bill; and ernment's operations and transactions, and when we come in Whereas we believe that such an act would be a crime and an outrage with a bill for a few little necessary appliances and facilities perpetrated upon the counties in which said lands are sjtuated and would deprive them of the actual settlers and families which they to carry on the neces a.ry work of the Government, it strikes would otherwi e get, and would further deprive such counties of the some of the gentlemen very bard-! do not allude to the gentle­ asses able valuations and taxable property which they are entitled man from Illinois; be is not the worst one-and yet they can to and from which said collilties would eventually realize an abun­ dance of revenues by virtue of entrymen having their lands patented swallow without choking hundreds of millions of dollars that and homes built thereon for themselves and families and their do not go for any such beneficial purposes. children's children ; and • Mr. 1.\f.A.NN. The gentleman will have an opportunity to­ Whereas there is not the incentive for families to build up valuable and permanent homes on rented land that there is on land they can morrow, or soon, to show whether be is in favor of economy on eall their own. and from which they would not have to be separated large measures or not. I am in favor of economy on both by virtue of the expiration of a lease; and the large and small measures. Whereas there a.re a number of the counties in which this land is lo­ cated that are already too small in the area of their agricultural Mr. ADAMSON. I thank the gentleman for his suggestion, lands without robbing them of what is left, and this is especially and, inasmuch as be has mentioned it I am sure he bas refer­ true of Billings County, which has not any more taxable real estate ence to the administration ship bill. If I do have a chance to than it needs for the running of their county government ; and Whereas we do not believe in heaping the burdens of taxation on the vote for it, I shall vote for it with the greatest of pleasure, as few who happen to own the agricultural land in euch localities wl>en the most neces a.ry thing to be done that has come before the _ the same can be reduced with the settlement of these vacant Govern­ House in a generation, because the business of the world is ment lands by homesteaders who are willing to' share the burden of taxation in their community for the purpose of getting homes ; and paralyzed, we are without shipping to do our business, and our Wherea we are heartily in favor of some act that will tend to improve products here at Jwme are wasting. We are not able to secure said district .and bring settlers who will make permanent homes their transportation, and if we do not provide transportation therein, btit that we are bitterly opposed to the submission of a national leasehold bill or any act that will shut the lands out from for them at once our people will lose the benefit of them and actual homesteading. thereby curtailing and handicapping the de­ also lose an opportunity to capture the trade of the world. velopment and upbuilding of said district: Now, therefore, be it [Applause.] That bill ought to pass, and pass quickly. · Resolved by the House of Representatives of the State of North Dakota (tllc Senate concurring), '.rhat we transmit a copy of this resolu­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection? tion to our Senators and Representatives in the National Congress, re­ Mr. CLINE. I object, Mr. Speaker. guesting and urging them to use all honorable means to see that the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indiana objects, and spirit of this resolution be put into execution as far as possible, and that any act which would tend to prevent the actual settlement of the the bill will be stricken frtlm the calendar. The Clerk will re­ lands above referred to, and which would deprive any county in said port the next bill. third congressional A:ruso.N] serious about this? ments thereon, to be used for the purpose of said home or homes. SEc. 2. That there shall be received into said home or homes, under Mr. ADAMSON. I suppose so. I have not cracked a smile regulations prepared. by the Surgeon General of the Public Health about it lately. I would like to have the bill passed. Service. with the approval nf the Secretary of the Treasury, any per~ Mr. MaNN. The gentleman knows that in the s_undry civil son afilicted with leprosy who presents himself or herself fot· care, detention, ·and treatment. or wbo may be apprehended under authority bill there escaped me, unfortunately, wbile I was detained by of the .United States quarantine acts, or any person afflicted with lep· some one else in conversation, a provision for two new vessels, rosy duly consigned to said home or any of said homes by the proper to cost $290,000, for this service. That probably will get into health authorities of any State, Territory. or the District of Colum­ bia. Tbc Surgeon ~nerul of the Public Health Service is authorized, the law, although it ought to have been stricken out on a point upon request of said authorities, to send for any person afflicted wltq of order. leprosy within their respective jurisdictions, and to convey said per­ Mr. ADAMSON. I run very much obliged to the Committee son to any such home for detention and treatment, and when the trans­ portation of any such person is undertaken for the protection. of the on Appropriations for granting that much. And if those are public health, the expense of such removal shall be paid from funds really intended as a part of tbis authorization, I am- willing set aside for t.he maint~nance of said home or homes. to give credit for them when they go to appropriate for these. SEC. 3. That regulations shall be prepared by the Sut·geon General ot the Public Health Service, with the approval of the Secretary of the l\fr. l\J.ANN. Those two having been carried in the appropria­ Trca ury for the government and administration of said home or homes tion bill, where they will probably be provided for, and assum­ and for the apprehension, detention, treatment, and release of all per- ing that was satisfactory to the department, I did not suppose son who are inmates thereof. · · SEC. 4. That the Secretary of the Treasury be, and he l.s hereby. the gentleman would be pressing a bill now for si:t. authorized to cause the erection upon such site or sites of suitable and Mr. AD.A.l\ISO~. I am not advised that tho e two are a part necessary bulldings for the purposes of this ·act at a cost not to ~xceed of this authorization at all. the sum -herein appropriated for such purpo e. SEc. 5. That when any commissioned or other officer of the Public _ Mr. MANN. That was what I was trying to get at, whether Health Service is detp.iled for duty at tbe home or homes herein pro­ the new Department of Commerce, wltb 11 view to economy in vided for ·be shall receive, in addition to the pay and allowances of his its efforts. to restrict -expenditures..--and we all know how hard it grade, one-half the pay of su.id grade and such allowances a may be 19i5. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE.' provided by the Surgeon General of the Public Health Servi~e, with the 1\Ir. MANN. I do not always assume that a department will approval of the Secretary of the Treasury. . . . SEC. 6. That for the purposes of carrying out th.e provlSlons of th1s exercise all the power it can; but whenever we give them un­ act there is hereby appropriated, from any money m the Treasury not limited authority we find that they do exercise it, jflst the otherwise appropriated, the sum of $250,000, or as much thereof !iS may same, and they say, "There is the law." be necessary, for the prepat·ation of said home or homes, incl.udmg the 1\fr. ADAMSON. What is the gentleman's suggestion? erection of necessary buildings, the maintenance of the p~t1ents, pay and maintenance of necessary officers and employees, until June 30, Mr ~ .1\IANN. The gentleman suggests that the purpose is to HH6. establish only one leprosorium? The SPEAKER. Is there objection? · 1\Ir. ADAMSON. Suppose you make it no more than two. 1\Ir. 1\f.Al\TN. I can not see what they would want ·to have Mr. MANN.. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, two fm·. where are these homes to be located? 1\fr. ADA.l\ISON. This is a big country,. you know, and we Mr. ADAMSON. That has not been determined. I will state would not want to haul them from coast to coast. to the gentleman that the -only suggestion I have heard about 1\fr. · 1\IA.NN. Oh, a leper in this country is no danger at all, it is that two or three States are now maintaining homes of so far as communicating disease to others by traveling is con­ tllat kind-one in Louisiana, and one in Massachusetts, and one cerned. in some other State-and the supposition is that these States Mr. ADAMSON. Well, the State of Massachusetts and the will be glad to turn over those homes to the Government. ·. State of Louisiana have thought otherwise by establishing Mr. UANN. And have the Government support them instead homes in those States: There is one, also, on the Pacific coast. of ·the States? 1\Ir. 1\IANN. We had one here. I do not know what became Mr. ADAMSON. Yes; just as the Government did with re- of 1\fr. Early. They still have a leprosorium here, for all I spect to the quarantine stations. . know. Mr. MANN. Well, why not have the Government support 1\Ir. ADAMSON. I do not think there would be any objection all other State eleemosynary institutions? to limiting the number to two or three, but I think they ought Mr. ADAMSON. Well, I suppose the fundamental questions to have more than one. involyed it is unnecessary for us to discuss at length just now. Mr. l\IANN. I do not think we ought to a utborize more than It is a practical proposition, and not a theory. The country is one. If they need one, very well; but I am not in favor of filling up with lepers, and they go .about from State to St~te, giving a blanket authority for locating leprosotiums wherever and it has gotten so that we have about 4,000 lepers in th~ Umted they please, regardless of the wishes of the communities. The States. The Government should protect interstate commerce proper place to iocate one is out in the wild somewhere, where and health by removing the menace to travel and by takil_lg care nobody lives within a radius of many miles and where nobody of these people. ever wi)l live. - Mr. MANN. Do I understand that it is the purpose of the 1\Ir. ADAMSON. I would rather have authority to start with department now to have a leprosorium in Massachusetts? one th:m none at all. What would the gentleman suggest? Mr. ADAMSON. No; they have not said that. I said that Mr. MANN. I ha.ve not any amendment prepared. Massachusetts bas a leprosorium, and Louisiana bas a lepro­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection? sorium and some other St~te, possibly California, has one, and Mr. MANN. I think the bill ought to go over, if the gentle­ it bas been suggested_to us that those homes might be acquired. man is serious about it. I will call the gentleman's attention It is objectionable, ofcourse, in some communities f~r the Gov­ to what I think is an error. The bill undertakes to appropriate ernment to establish a leprosorium in their vicinity, · but $250,000 for the construction of buildings, and so forth, and wherever they already exist and are maintained by the St~te gives authority to use $250,000 until June 30, 1916. You could authorities and can be sold to tp.e . ~overnment, I think all fric.: not appropriate for a building after that date, and it is quite tion in that respect could be removed. certain you could not buy a site and build one before that date. Mr. MANN. This matter has been under consideration by the So your authorization would not do any good if the bill should committee, which undoubtedly bas bad bearings upon it. How pass. That is section 5 of the bill. many leprosoriums is it intended to have under the provisions Mr. ADA..l\ISON. We can amend that, if the gentleman does of this bill? There is rio limit placed in the bill. not object to the consideration of the bill. Mr. ADAMSON. No; there is no limit in the bill, but it is 1\Ir. MANN. We could, as far as I am concerned, spend the not intended to have many. One proposition was to acquire an afternoon on it; but I think we want to pass some other bills island somewhere off the coast and to have just one. I do not this afternoon. know what will be determined upon about ·that. 1\lr. ADAMSON. - I do not think we will have any chance to 1\Ir. MANN. This bill authorizes the Secretary of the Treas­ pass this after to-day. ury to buy a site at any place in the United States for a lepro­ Mr . .MANN. Oh, I think so. I suggest to the gentleman that sorium, wherever be chooses. be ask to have the bill passed over without prejudice. I think .Mr. ADAMSON. I would take it for granted, however, that we will ha.ve time during the latter days of the session. Of he would not do so over the objections of the community, and course, this bill will not become a law at this session anyway. the easiest way would be to purchase or acquire those already Mr. AD~SON. Mr. Speaker, under the circumstances I am established in the States. glad to oblige the gentleman by making the request that the 1\fr. MANN. I take it that if he does it, it will be over the bill go over without prejudice. objections of the immediate community. They certainly will The SPEAKER. The gentleman asks that the bill be passed never consent. The bili also authol'izes practically all the (J.e­ without prejudice. Is there objection? partments to turn over at any time any land which they have There was no objection. in the way of a reservation. 1\fr. ADAMSON. Well, it might be that a reservation would WALTER DEAN. be found suitable for it free from objection, where the. Govern­ The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent ment could allow it to be constructed. We can not, of course, was the bill (H. R. 2042i) to authorize the sale of certain land settle all these details in advance. One of the best reasons in Alabama to Walter Dean. why we can not is the one Suggested by the gentleman, that if The Clerk read the title of the bill. we were to propose to locate one at a particular place the peo­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection? ple around that place would do to us just as they did before, l\fr. .MANN. l\fr. Speaker, this is a Private Calendar bill, but when we proposed to locate one in Arizona. They defeated the I suppose it is not the fault of the author of the bill that it is entire bill, because the people interested in that country did not on the Union Calendar; and as we would have passed it the want it. other night if it had been on the Private Calendar, I shall not 1\Ir. 1\IANN. I remember . that very well. I have no objec­ make the point of order. tion, I will say to the gentleman, to giving the Public Health 1\lr. FERRIS. I thank the gentleman. It is quite important Service authority to locate a leprosorium and take the chances to get this fixed up at this time. on where it will be located, but I am very much opposed to The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman object? giving them authority to locate 40. . 1\Ir. MANN. No; I do not. 1\fr. ADAMSON. So am I. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? Mr. 1\IA.NN. This gives them that authority, without any · There was no objection. . limit at :ill, practically to take any piece of land that the · The SPEAKER. This bill is on tile Union Calendar. Go\ernment owns and to buy any piece they choose. ' 1\fr. FERRIS. I .ask unaniomus consent to consider the bill Mr. ADAMSON. I do not suppose they would establish one . in the .House as in Committee of the Whole House on the state where it was unnecessary or for~e one on an unwilling com- . o~ the Union. munity. I believe they would work it out with more _common The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Oklahoma asks uuani- . sense than that: · · mons consent to consider this bill in the House as in Committee 3816 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD~HOUSE. FEBRUAR¥ 15 ' \ of the Whole House on the state of the Union. Is there ob- Mi'. MO'l\TbELt. Will the· gentleman point out to me the jection? class of cases affected by section ·3 that are not affected by sec- There was no objection. tlon 1? The bill was read as follows: Mr. BORLANU. I confess I do not understand section 3. I Be i t enacted, eto.. That the Secl"etary of the Interior be, and he is 1 'am going to try to get some information on it. hereby, authorized to issue a paten~ to Walter Dean, of Calhoun Mr. 1\fONDELL. I never like to vote for anything I do not County, .A la., for the nEVANS COUNTIES, GA. to exchange their land for some land that is within the irrigable The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent area? was the bill (H. R. 20814) to place Candler and Evans Counties, I / 1915. 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of Georgia, in the eastern division of the southern district of more attractive, when the report itself says it is to be made Georgia. safer and more attractive? The Clerk rend the bill, as follows : Mr. MANN. The gentleman should quote what I really said. Be it enacted, etc., That the counties of Candler and Evans, in the Mr. CLARK of Florida. The two are not analogous at all. State of Georgia, are hereby attached to and made a part of the eastern When you say to make it safer and more attractive you do not division of the southern judicial dlstrict of said State. mean simply to make it more attractive. The burden of the The following committee amendments were read : thing is, if the gentleman will read the report from the depart­ In line 3, after the ·word "Candler,'' insert the word "Jenkins." ment, that this stairway is absolutely in a dangerous condition, The SPEAKER. Is there objection? and the main purpose of this is to make it safe. Of course it There was no objection. may be made a little more attractive. · The committee amendments were agreed to. Mr. COOPER. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman from Illinois The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a yield? third time, was read the third time, and passed. Mr. MANN. Yes. The title was amended to read: "A bill to pla.ce Candler. Jen­ Mr. COOPER. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the gentle­ kins, and Evans Counties, Ga., in the eastern division of man from Florida what is the natnre of the defect in the stairs Georgia." that makes them so unsafe? POST OFFICE AT CARLISLE, PA. Mr. CLARK of Florida. I understand that they are so steep The next .bu siness on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent that it is positively dangerous to go up and down. That is was the bill (H. R. 18645) for the acquisition of additional the report made to us. It is a very insignificant sum; and, be­ site and impro\ement of Federal post office at Carli.sle, Pa. sides that, I understand that the stairway is so constructed as The Clerk read the bill, as follows: to detract largely from the appearance of the ·building; that Be it enacted, etc., That the Secretary of the Treasury be, and he is it makes it appear hideous, in other words, besides being abso­ hereby, authorized and directed to pay, out of any moneys in the United lutely unsafe. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [1\Ir. RUP­ States Treasury not otherwise appropriated, the sum of $20,000 for the LEY], the Member from that district-and I believe that is his acquisition of additional land for a site and for the improvement and home town-came before the committee and he enlarged upon alteration of the Federal post office at Carlisle, Pa. those two propositions. The main proposition, however, is the The following committee amendments were read: unsafe condition of the stairway, and that is why we made this Line 6, strike out the figures " $20,000 " and insert in lieu thereof report. t.he figures "$3 500." Lines 6 and i, strike out the words "for the acquisition of additional Mr. :MANN. 1\Ir. Speaker, I had not stated whn.t actuated land for a. site and." the committee. I stated in the first place that the purpose of The SPEAKER. Is there objection? this bill was to make the stairway more attractive.. Here i.s the · Mr. MANN. I object. report of the department: Ur. LOGUE. Will the gentleman reserve his objection?, The steps in use at the present time are not in harmony architec­ Mr. 1\IANN. Yes. tually with the building, and to a grea.t extent mar its appearance. Otherwise it is a splendid structure- 1\lr. LOGUE. This ha.s been amended by the committee. It is not for the acquisition of an additional site. And so forth. It is true they' later say-- l\Ir. l\~"'N. I know what it is for; it is to put certain things 1\fr. CLARK of Florida. Will not the gentleman be fair in a more attractive condition. enough to read the balance of that? .Mr. LOGUE. No; if the gentleman will pardon me. Mr. MANN. I shall not take the trouble to read the three Mr. l\IAl\TN. The gentleman does not know what it is for. pages. I was just stating that it was true that later on they l\Ir. LOGUE. Yes, I do; it is for the alteration and improve- say the steps are dangerous. It is also true that they say there i ments of the stairway that was reported to be in an unsafe are handrails there and that the people will not use the hand­ condition. rails. Evidently the people do not think the steps are danger­ 1\lr. l\U..NN. To put the stairway in a more attractive con­ ous or they would use the handrails. It is perfectly patent. clition. The departrnent has just constructed a building and the people l\Ir. LOGUE'. In a safer condition. there do not like it. I would be very glad to have the stairway 1\lr. MA~TN. I am only reading from the report, which the rebuilt if we had plenty of money. gentleman from Pennsylvania can read; he is denying what is Mr. CLARK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman ) permit me to read a line on page 3? in the report. Mr. LOGUE. It is to be placed in a safer and more at­ Mr. l\IA1\TN. So far as I am concerned, the gentleman can tracti\e position. read it all. .Mr. 1\.IAi~N. That is what I said. 1\fr. CLARK of Florida. I read from the report: 1\lr. LOGUE. No; the gentleman stated only that it was to It is unfortunate that the building was so designed in the first be put in a more attracti\e condition. instance as to provide fol'" a flight of entrance steps so steep as to be Mr. MA.i.'l'N. Here is a stairway which has just been erected, dangerous. and the people do not like it because they say it does not look :Mr. 1\fANN. It is unfortunate. How long has this building nice. been constructed? It has just been fini.shed. 1\lr. LOGUE. This is under the report of the department, Mr. COOPER. 1\Ir. Speaker, I did not become interested in coupled with the report of the postmaster, that several people this until I picked up this report a moment ago. I see that the have fallen down these stairs and that there is danger to the Secretary of the Treasury, Mr. McAdoo, said in a letter on citizens of injury. The fact in connection with this situation is December 22, written to the chairman of the Committee on that the building was completed within the appropriation and Public Buildings and Grounds, which letter is found in the a large sum of money was covered back into the Treasury. At report of the committee on page 3 : that time the department should have had notice, and it has The matter of the entrance steps is in a different category. It is been called to their attention that these changes are needed, unfortunate that the building was so designed in the first instance as and the appropriation of $3,500 does not reach the limit orig­ to provide for a fl1ght of entrance steps so steep as to be dangerous. o.e inally made for the erection of the building. It is not an at­ tbe estimated cost of $7,500, it is believed that the cost of reconstruct­ tempt to beautify it. The Representative to Congress from that rug the steps would amount to $3.500. district [Mr. RUPLEY] was before our committee. The report Mr. CLARK of Florida. That i.s what the committee recom- of the department was surh that our committee thought that it mends, and nothing more. was needed for the safety of the public and that these changes The SPEAKER. Is there objection? should be made. • . Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I object. 1\Ir. MANN. I have read the report, and it is about as ridic­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois objects; and ulous as anybody could make it. Here is a stairway just the bill is stricken from the calendar. erected, and because the patrons who are served by rural routes want to go there and get their mail, they want this stairway PUBLIC BUILDING AT RARTFOllD, CONN. changed. They prefer to go there and climb these steps, but The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent they say they do not look nice, and want somebody to build was the bill (H. R. 18310) to acquire a site for a public building tbem oyer- again. at Hartford, Conn. Mr. CLARK of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the The Clerk read the title of the bilL gentleman from Illinois one question. I want to ask him if 1\Ir. LONERGAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent he thinks it is fair to this committee and to the House to make that the bill be passed over without prejudice. a statement that the report of the committee is simply to the The SPEAKER. Is there objection? effect that the stairway is to be changed merely to be made There was no objection. 3818 OOj?GRESSIONAL RECORD- HODSE. FEBRUARY 15,

FI:DERAL Dli'TLDL..G AT OAKLAND. CAL. 1\Ir. FERl.US. Let me state the facts concerning this case; I The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent suppose the gentleman will be interested. Pursuant to the act was the bill (H. R. 21230) to increase the limit of cost of the site of May 2, 1890, which is the general act and does not give of a -Federal building at Oakland, Cal. very much light on this identical town site there were ten The CJerk read the title of the bill. and a fraction of acres of land reserr-ed in the city of Guthrie The SPEAKER. Is there objection? as the Territorial capital of Oklahoma for c:tpital pmpo es and 1\lr. BORLA rn. 1\lr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, for the capital city. It is called a park, but is never used as I would like to ha\e some explanation of what the amount of a park but for capital purposes. Later statehood carne and money appropriated in the bill-$51,750-is for'! there was added to what was oricrinally Oklahoma the Indian Mr. J. R. KNOWLAND. Mr. Speaker, I will state to the Territory. The people of the adjoining Territories took a vote gentleman that in 1012 an appropriation was made to enlarge a~ to where th,e capital should be, and located the capital at the the site of the Oakland post-office building. '.fhe owners of the city of Oklahoma as distinguished from the city . of Guthrie. property refused to accept the amount that had been appropri­ It t:Jien left the people of Guthrie with quite a large building on ated and condemnation proceedings were begun by the Govern­ then· hands, and left them with 10 acre of land on their hands ment. The award is $57,750 in excess of the amount appropri­ and they sought as best they could to ·recoup their loss by rea~ ated. The Attorney General states that he considers this a rea­ son of having the capital removed-- sonable price, and adds that if any more delay is had he fears 1\Ir. MANN. But what was the title the Go\ernment con­ the site can not be secured for the amount awarded. The neces­ veyed? sity for the additional land is apparent when I state that the 1\fr. FERRIS. . ~he GoYernment by the act of l\Iay 2 1890 post-office building is now so crowded that the internal-revenue con\eyed a limited title to them. ' ' office, the customs office, and the commissioner of bankruptcy l\fr. MANN. I know; but what was that title? and other Federal officers are compelled to rent quarters out­ Mr. FERRIS. Later on-- side of the Federal building. Mr. ... IANN. What was the title conveyed? Mr. BORLAXD. Are we to assume that the Go"Vernment 1\Ir. FERRIS. For park and school pm:IJoses. went ahead with condemnation proceedings and that the "Ver­ Mr. MANN.· Oh, no; it was con-veyed for capital purposes· dict of the jury was for $57,750 more than the amount esti­ but what was the limitation upon the title? ' mated? l\1r. THOMPSON of Oklahoma. Will the gentleman permit? .Mr. J. R KNOWLAND. Yes. 1\fr. MANN. I wi 11 . Mr. BORLAND. And that is the sole cause of this? :Mr. THO.:UPSON of Oklahoma. Originally it was conveyed :Mr. J. R. KNOWLAND. Yes. to the tmv_n-site trustees. Afterwards, under the act of 1004, Mr. BORLAND. And no more land was embraced? the town-site trustees conveyed it to the city of Guthrie with a l\fr. J. R. KNOWLA:l\'D. No; the same land; and in the limitation. In 1013 the President of the United States con­ opinion of the Attorney General this is a reasonable figure; "Veyed the second title with absolute fee without any reservation and if more delay is had, owing to the rapid increase in the at all. Now, afterwards when this question came up, when the values in that locality, it will unquestionably cost the Gov­ grant was made to the Methodist Uni\ersity, the Supreme Court ernment more to acquire the property. The bill is recom­ held that the limitation of the original town-site act of 1890 ap­ mended by the Trea ury Department. plied; that the town held it in trust, so that :he object of this Mr. CLARK of Florida. This bill gives just enough so that, bill is to conyey title to the city, so that the city can do as it added to the authorization heretofore made, it completes the pleases. amount of the award. 1\Ir. l\fANN. Well, I know; but what is the city going to do l\Ir. J. R. KNOWLAND. Yes. with it? Mr. BORLAND. Will this complete the acquisition of the l\fr. TH0~.1)?SON of Oklahoma. I presume, 1\Ir. Chairnan, it site? is the intention of the city to convey it to the unhersity. . 1\Ir. J. R. KNOWLAND. Yes. l\Ir. 1\IANN. I really think in fairness we ought" to know . The SPEAKER. I there objection? [After a pause.] The 1\Ir. THOMPSON of Oklahoma. That is the intention. Chair hears none. This bill is on the Union Calendar. 1\Ir. 1\I.A..L'W". The substitute says here it is to be conve\erl to l\Ir. J. n. KNOWL.A.ND. 1\fr. Speaker, I ask unanimous con­ the city of Guthrie. Now, the city of Guthrie has con\eyed to sent to consider the bill in the Honse as in the Committee of the the Methodist University this land, but did not have a good Whole. title. Now, if they convey a good title to the city of Guthrie The SPEAKER. Is there objection? and if the city does not choose to convey it to the Methodist There was no objection. University really that university is up in the air. The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the bill. 1\Ir. THOMPSON of. Oklahoma. Mr. Chairman, I would say The Clerk read the bill, as follows: in reply to the gentleman from Illinois, that the deed was put Be it enacted, etc., That the limit of cost for the purchase of a Fed· in escrow and a condition imposed on the univel.·sity, that they eral building site at Oakland, Cal., be, and the same is hereby, in­ are to raise $250,000 as an endowment fund, and they are now creased $51,750, or so much thereof as may be necessary to meet the waiting until the deeds are approved before they commence to additional cost of the said site. raise that money. When the deeds are appro\ed, they will raise With the following committee amendment: the money. Line 5, strike out the figures "$51,740" and insert the figures 1\fr. 1\IA.NN. I have no objection. "$51,750.'' The SPEAKER. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The . The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the amend­ Chair hears none. This bill is on the Union Calendar. ment. 1\Ir. FERRIS. 1\Ir. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that . The amendment was agreed to. the bill be considered in the House as in the Committee of the The SPEAKER. The question is on the engrossment and Whole House on the state of the Union. third reading of the bill. The S.PEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the aen­ The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, tleman from Oklahoma? [After a pause.] The Chair hears was read the third time, and passed. none. . QUIETING TITLE TO PROPERTY, GUTHRIE, OKLA. M:r. 1\IANN. l\Ir. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the The next busines on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent bill be printed in the RECORD and that the substitute be read. was the bill (H. R. 21200) quieting and confirming the title of The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois asks unani­ the Methodist University of Oklahoma in and to ce1iain tracts mous consent that the bill be printed in the RECORD and that of land located in the city of Guthrie, Okla. the substitute be read. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The Clerk read the title. The Chair hears none. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? The bill is as follows : 1\fr. MA.J"\TN. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, there Be it enacted, etc., That the title of the Methodist University ot does not seem to be very much informatiQn gi\en in the report Oklahoma in and to a certain tract of land located in the city _ o! Guthrie, State of Oklahoma, and more particularly described as fol­ in this case. The bill was introduced to give a quitclaim title lows, to wit: A tract of land 680 feet square, containing 10.62 acres, to the Methodist University. The amendment is to give title located within that part of the city of Guthrie, Logan County, Okla., to the citv of Guthrie. formerly known as Capitol Hill, and bounded as follows : On the north by Cleveland Avenue, on the west by Capital Boulevard, on the south l\Ir. FERRld. Or rathe!.' to relinquish. by Harrison Avenue, on the east by Drexel Boulevard, designated and 1\Ir. MANN. Is that for the benefit of the university? known on the official plat as Capital Park, and heretofore conveyed • l\1r. FERRIS. It i. intended to be given to the university. by said city of Guthrie to the Methodist University of Oklahoma by a deed executed May 16, 1913, pursuant to an election held in said city 1\lr. U.dl~N. Suppose they do not give it to the university; on the 9th day of May, 1913, authorizing and directing the execution t.hen what? of said conveyance, be, and the same is hereby, in all things quieted 1915. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 3819

and confirmed, subject only to the compliance on the part or said 1\!r. MANN. We supposed at that time these were Indian Methodist University of Oklahoma witfi the terms and conditions ot said conveyance. lands. The gentleman puts an amendment in the appropria­ tion bill. I do not say that he led us erroneously to suppose that The substitute was read, as follows: these were remnant lands belonging to Indians; but that is Strike out all after the enacting clause and insert : . " That for the purpose of removing a cloud from the title to that the only way that the bill would have jurisdiction over them. certain tract of land located in the city of Guthrie, State of Oklahoma, Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman and I both know how thes~ and more particularly described as follows, to wit: A tract of land appropriation bills go through, and that at the Senate end they 680 feet square, containing 10.62 acres, located within that pa~t of the city of Guthrie, Logan County, Okla., formerly known as Capitol Hill, very often hang on everything in the shape of amendments. and bounded as follows : On the north by Cleveland A venue, on the Mr. :MANN. I remember the item. I remember the impres­ west by Capitol Boulevard, on the south by Harrison Avenue, on the sion I received on the :floor that theSe were remnant lands be­ east by Drexel Boulevard, designated and known on the official plat as Capital Park, whatsoever right, title, or interest the United States may longing to the Indians and hence it was proper in the Indian have in and to said ~ract of land by reason of escheat or otherwise, bel appropriation bill to provide for their disposal. and the same is hereby, released and quitclaimed unto said city or Mr. FERRIS. I think the gentleman was probably incorrect, Guthrie." as I think this amendment went in at the Senate end, and I do The SPEAKER. The question is- on the substitute. not think the gentleman had any statement from me at the time. The question was taken, and the substitute was agreed to. There was a question at the time as to whether or not they The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a were Indian lands. But the department later held they were third time, was read the third time, and passed. public lands and not Indian lands. This is what happened. The title of the bill was amended so as to read : "A bin After this amendment had passed, the local land office down at quieting title to a certain tract of land located in the city of Guthrie gave out a published statement in the newspapers, and Guthrie, Okla." · the matter was current in the State, and asked the people to On motion by Mr. THOMPSON of Oklahoma, a motion to re­ come and enter these lands, and they did enter them-some 5G consider the vote by which the bill was passed was laid on the in number. They filed on them. A good many of them proved table. them up, got their receipts, and built houses on them. Last fall PUBLIC BUILDING AT BATH, ME. when I was home they had received notices by reason of th~ The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent amendment in the Indian appropriation bill which provided for • was the bill (H. R. 1702) increasing the limit of cost fixed by the sale of these land, back in 191l ; that these lands had been act of Congress approved June 25, 1910, for enlargement, ex­ erroneously entered and their titles were held for cancellation. tension, etc., of Federal building at Bath, Me. I said to them that I did not believe the Government would let The Clerk read the title. them go on the land and build homes and prove them up and The· SPEAKER. Is there objection? then take the lands away from them. I called it to the atten­ Mr. BORLA..t."'{D. lUr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, tion of the Land Office, and they were willing to favor legisla­ I would like to know who is in charge of this bill. This bill tion to straighten it out. They think themselves that they ought adds $10,000 to the authorization, but according to the report not to let people enter land and live on it two or three years it seems to be for some work which was omitted when the con­ and then take it away from them. I introduced the bill, and tracts were originally let. Does the gentleman from Florida the department recommended it favorably, and the committee know what that work was which was omitted? The report reported it. It ought to pass. It will straighten out a tangle does not state it. that should be straightened. 1\fr. CLARK of Florida. The report says : Mr. STAFFORD. Will the gentleman yield? It is estimated that an in.erease of $10.,000 will be sufficient to com­ plete the approach work along the lines originally contemplated and Mr. FERRIS. I will. also provide for certain desirable betterment. Mr. STAFFORD. Under the Indian appropriation provision, I do not know just exactly what it is further than that, Mr. what prevented these settlers from purchasing these lands on Speaker. The gentleman from Maine [1\Ir. 1\IcGILLICUDDY] which they made improvements at the appraised value? came before the committee. I do not think I was present when Mr. FERRIS. The Land Office did not offer them under he was there. He stated that there were a number of small the 1911 provision, and they being segregated by existing en­ things they had to cut off in order to put up the building. These tries were not subject under the 1913 provision. things are necessary, and the committee felt it was necessary 1\Il·. STAFFORD. Were they not subject to entry under the that they should be done. prior act of 1911? Is not the gentleman confusing the dates? Mr. BORLA1\'D. That seems a little vague. The word " ap­ Mr. FERRIS. That is the one I referred to. And it is that proaches," as the gentleman understands, is generally used in one that the land should have been sold under, and the local these bills to signify some work that is doing in the city or in land office made the error and invited numerous families to the street contiauous to the site. I think it had better go over. come on to settle on the land. There was for a time some con­ The gentleman from Maine [1\fr. 1\IcGILLICUDDY] is not here. fusion about it as to whether or not the land was Indian land. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Maine [1\Ir. McGILLI­ This probably was the cause of the trouble. CUDDY] is down in West Virginia at present. Mr. STAFFORD. Under the act of 1911, which is not the Mr. BORLAND. Mr. Speaker, I ask that it be passed over appropriation act. Mr. FERRIS. It was an amendment to the Indian appropria- without prejudice. · tion bill. The act of 1911 was the Indian appropriation act. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? 1\fr. STAFFORD. Not according to the report here. There was no objection. Mr. FERRIS. It is, though. VALIDATION OF HOMESTEAD ENTRIES. 1\Ir. STAFFORD. They have a right to-day to buy the lands The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the next bill. at the appraised value, not including the improvements. The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent Mr. FERRIS. Oh, yes; but a man has exhausted his home­ was the bill (H. R. 21122) to validate certain homestead entries. stead right. A man who three or four years ago was invited to The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the consideration of go and enter on the land and build a house on it and cultivate the bill. it and comply with the homestead law, and even prove up on it. Mr. MANN. I object. does not want to give it up. He is entitled to it. He should Mr. FERRIS. Will the gentleman hear me a ~inute on that! not be compelled to buy it a second time. 1\lr. MANN. Yes; I will reserve my objection. Mr. STAFFORD. The gentleman's statement is not correct Mr. FERRIS. In 1900 Congress passed an act opening cer­ when he says he is deprived of his entire right, because he is tain lands to settlement. There were a lot of remnant lands not. He can purchase this land at the appraised value, not in­ left that no one wanted. After the first 60-day period anyone cluding the improvements. He does not wish to buy at the could take tlle remaining lands who would go and settle on appraised value. them, and the first settler tllereon got them. Two or three years Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman should not say I am in error. went along with some activity . in homesteading and a few I Imow it from A to Z. There were two amendments in the remnant lands were still remaining. I incorporated in the appropriation bill under which the department could sell the Indian appropriation bill-or at least I advocated it and it was land. Later I came along and put a provision in the appro­ adopted-a short amendment providing for the sale of these priation bill in 1913 authorizing that they sell and clean up these remaining remnant lands. I thought we could close it up in remnant lands. I want to get rid of them and get rid of any that way. trouble of this kind. Mr. MANN. What had it to do with the Indian appropria­ Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Will the gentleman yield? tion bill? These are not Indian lands. Mr. FERRIS. I was first trying to satisfy the gentleman Mr. FERRIS. Oh, no; only it passed as other amendments from Wisconsin. · that were added to the bill. It was land that had been ceded 1\lr. BURKE of South Dakota. These lands in the Kiowa, to the Government! Comanche, and Apache Indian Reservations that originally 3820__ . CONGR- _,. .ESSION... AL- .RECORD-HOUSE.~ ~ · FEBRUARY 15, were authorized to be disposed· of were sold, were they not, to ner and at the same price as entries allowed undet· the act of June 6, 1900, supra, it is believed that in order to make this clear there should the highest bidder-that is, under sealed bids? be added a proYi so to the following effect: . Mr. FERRIS. This first opening was not; no. The first "Provided, That in addition to the land-office fees prescribed by stat­ opening was ·ceded lands, and they had a general drawing. ute for such entries, the entrymen shall pay $1.25 per acre for the land entered at the time of submitting final or commutation proof." These are lands that were carried over from ·that first opening. So amended, the department recommends the enactment of the bill. The latter opening was under the 1906 opening. Very truly, yours, 1\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. From the original opening? A. A. JONES, 1\Ir. FERRIS. Yes. First Assistant Secreta1'1J, The bill relates to 56 homestead entries which were allowed by the Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Did the Indian appropriation _Guthrie local land office to be erroneously made. Notices were pub­ act contain an item for the· disposition of remnant lands,· or did lished by the land office inviting settlers to take up certain remnant it not apply to reserve tracts that had been used for schools· lands which were left after two preceding openings had been held. Under this invitation and these notices 56 entries were made during and agency purposes? the year 1012. Twelve of the entries have been passed to patent. the 1\fr. FERRIS. The last act more particularly did. There were entrymen having entered promptly, resided upon the lands, proved up, two acts. .An amendment was placed in the Indian appropria-. and received fina l certificate thereto, in some cases loans having been made thereon. The other 44 entries were regularly made pursuant to tion act for 1911 which provided that the Secretary of the In­ the invitation issued by the local land office. The entrymen improved terior was authorized to sell the Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache the land, constructed dwellings and buildings thereon, made the land lands. They did not sell them, but on the contrary the local more valuable, and in every way complied with the homestead laws. Later it was discovered that the lands, technically, were not subject to land office people went out and invited people to settle them by entry, and each of the 56 settlers were called upon to show cause why homestead entry. · their entries should not be canceled. The land office is without power, Mr. BURKE of South Dakota.' They were open to homestead technically, under the law to render these' homesteaders relief. Cer-' tainly they are entitled to relief. To grant them this relief would not entry before that act was passed, and did not that act withdraw divest the Indians of any money or property, the lands having hereto­ them from homestead entry? · fore been ceded to the Government. In order to secure this relief the 1\Ir. ·FERRIS. I believe it did, and they held that they can settlers would be required to pay $1.25 per acre for the land, the Gov- · nqt ernment price for nonmineral, nonirrigable, nontimbered lands. '.rhe prevent these people from entering, even if they have en­ lands mentioned are remnant odds and ends of little value which were tered or already have gotten title. I present herewith the left over from preceding openings and are nontimbered, nonirrigable, report on the bill from the Public Lands Committee. It also and nonmineral. It is thought that the only honorable thing for the Government to do contains the views of the department. It is as follows: in this instance is to allow their entries to stand of record, permit the [House of Representatives, Rept. No. 1367, 63d Cong., 3d sess.] homesteaders to acquire title to the lands in strict compliance with VALID..l'l'ING CERTAIN HOMESTEAD ENTRIES. the law, and it is therefore the recommendation of your committee that· Mr. FERms. from the Cominittee on the Public Lands, submitted the this bill do p:1.ss and the relief be granted. following report. It may not be out of place to say that from the year 1901 up until March 3, 1911, these lands were subject to homestead entry and· were The Committee on the Public Lands, having bad under consideration not taken or selected, and it is the thought of your committee that the H. R. 21122 entitled ''A bill to validate certain homestead entries," bill does not in any way work a hardship upon the Government; that­ after carefudy considering the same, reports the bill back to the House the Indians' rights were formerly entirely severed from these lands by with the recommendation that the same do pass with the following­ the treaty of October 21 _ 1892; that the settlers entered upon the lands amendment added thereto : in good faith and in strict1 accord with the invitation of the Govern­ "Provided, That in addition to the land-office fees prescribed by ment; that they have complied with the homestead laws-have placed statute for such entries the entryman shall pay $1.25 per acre for the improvements on the lands; that the rights of innocent persons have land entered at the time of submitting final or commutation proof." entered into the matter; and that these settlers are entitled to tbe The bill is short, and is therefore printed herewith at length, with relief mentioned. the provision added thereto, which is strictly in accord with the recom­ mendation of the Interior Department, and as it was unanimously ap- Mr. MANN. Well, two years ago the gentleman from Okla­ proved by the committee. It is as follows: _ homa [Mr. FERRIS] put a provision on a bill authoriziug them . . "A bill to validate· certain home'Stead entries. to sell the land and givin_g the. settlers the right to buy them "Be it enacted, etc., That all homestead entries heretofore errone­ at the appraised value: . . ously allowed for the unused, unallotted, and unreserved lands of the United States in the Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache Indian Reser­ Mr. FERRIS. That is true; but I did not inte~d it to be I. \" vations, which lands were authorized to be sold undet· section 16 construed in that way. I. of the act approved March 3, 1911 ( 36 Stat. L., p. 1069), and under I the provisions of the act approved June 30, 1913 (38 Stat. L., p. t\2), The SPEAKER. Is there objection? are hereby ratified and confirmed: Provided, That in addition to the Mr. MANN. I object. land-office fees prescribed by statute for such entries the entryman shall pay $1.25 per acre for the land entered at the time of submitting final Mr. FERRIS. Would the gentleman from Illinois object to or commutation proof.'' its retaining its place on the calendar? The bill was regularly referred to the Interior Department by the Mr. MANN. Not at all. Public Lands Committee for report and recommendation. The depart­ ment, under date of January 26, 1915, rendered a favorable report Mr. FERRIS. I ask unanimous consent, :Mr. Speaker, that t hereon and it is printed herewith at length, as follows: this bill be passed over without prejudice. DEPA.RTME:o{T OF THE INTERIOR, The SPEAKER. Is there objection to passing over the bill Washington, January £6, 1915. without prejudice? Hon. SCOTT FERRIS, Chairman Committee on the Public Lands, There was no objection. House of Rep1·esentatives. _The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the next bill. MY DEAR MR. FERRIS: I have before me for consideration H. R. 21122, CHICOT AND DESHA COUNTIES, ARK. which provides: " That all homestead entries heretofore erroneously allowed for the The next business on the Calendar for Unanimous Consent· unused, unallotted, and unreserved lands of the United States in the was the bill (H. R. 18086) to amend section 71 of an act en­ Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache Indian Reservations, which lands were authorized to be sold under section 16 of the act approved March 3, titled "An act to codify, revise, and amerid the laws relating to Hlll (36 Stat. L., 10069), and under the provisions of the act approved the judiciary,'' approved March 4, 1911. June 30, 1913 (38 Stat. L., 92), are hereby ratified and confirmed." The title of the bill was read. 'These, with other lands, were ceded to the United States by the Indian tribes named by treaty of October 21, 1892, and with the excep­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection? tion of certain reservations, were made subject to entry at $1.25 per Mr. Al.A.J.'l'N. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, this acre by the act of June 6, 1900 (31 Stat. 680). . . transfers two counties from one district to another? · The act of March 3, 1911 ( 36 Stat., 1096), authorized the Secretary .Mr. FLOYD of Arkansas. That is ull. It transfers two coun- of the Interior to ~:;ell such lands as remained then undisposed of upon such terms and under such rules as he might prescribe. After the ties from one district to another. _' · passage of the last-named act the Commissioner of the General Land Mr. 1\IANN. I understand; but was the convenience of the Office on April 20, HHl, instructed the register and receiver to a!!ow no more entries for such lands until further notice. However, the regi:;­ United States considered in any way? There is no report here tet· and receiver dHl !lllow about 56 entries to be made, 12 of which have or anything to indicate that this matter was ever submitted to been passed to patent. the Attorney General or to the United States district attorney In the· Indian appropriation act of June 30 1913 (38 Stat., 92), which further authorized the sale of the unused, unallotted, and unre­ or to the district attorney for a report. It is usual to do that. served lands in the reservations mentioned, it was provided that the Mr FLOYD of Arkansas. Well, it is more convenient to the Secretary of the Interior might " grant to settlet·s a preference right reople of those two counties, and I know of no olJjection to it to purchase for 90 days from and after notice, at the appraised price, exclusive of improvements, such lands as are occupied by such settlers from any source. It takes two counties that lie along the in good faith on January 1, 1913." Mississippi River and where railroad communication is direct It is pointed out on behalf of the 56 entrymen that they occupy a with Helena and transfers them from the Little Rock district, different status from the settlers described in the act last cited in that the settlers went upon the land of their own accord and were not misled which is far more remote, to Helena. by the allowance of their claims by the register and receiver, whereas Mr. 1\IA.l'l'N. . I know that recently we passed a law. dividing the 56 en tr·ymen in question wer~ misled by the allowance of their the State into districts-or a reenactment of the law-and it homestead entries, and, relying thereupon, con.structed houses and other improvements upc,n the land, secured loans from banks, and took other is customary when these cases are up to consult the· officials,' steps in reliance upon the allowance of their said entries. so that we shall have information before us. Under the circumstance~. and as the entrymen were misled by the Mr. FLOYD of Arkansas. I will state to the geJ?.tleman from erroneous action of the Government office1:s. it is the opinion of the de­ Illinois, Mr. Speaker, that in this case it is the same trial. pat·tment that they are entitled to x:ellef. While ~· R. 21122 is appar­ ently designed to permit_the perfectio~ of the ~ntr1es in the same man- judge that holds the courts. .:.

):915. -,.: / ~ CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. I 1\Ir. MANN. That is all· the more reason why we should have same footing with the other parks with regard to expending J asked him whether this is a proper transfer, so .that we would the revenues of the park upon the park. f have his opinion on the subject. However, I am not going to The SPEAKER. Is there objection? obJect, although I think this is a pretty loose way to do Mr. MANN. Reserving the right to object, 1\Ir. Speaker, for business. just a moment, I am not in sympathy with the pm·pose of the The SPEAKER. Is there objection? bill, but it would not accomplish the purpose which it is de- There was no objection. , signed to accomplish if it were enncted. The SPEAKER The Clerk will revort the bill. It only shows how carelessly rough some bills are sent to 'The Cierk read as follows: us from the -various departments. The language of the bill was lle it enacted, etc., That sectio:1 71 of an act approved Mar~h 4, 1!H1, originally prepar.ed and sent as an estimate to go into the sun- entitled "An act to codify, revise, and nme"nd the laws relatmg to the dry civil appropriation bill. The sundry civil bill contains an ap· judiciary," be, and the same- is hereby, amended as relates to tile eastern propriatin!! clause at the be!!inning of the bill, and it would district of the State of Arlmnsas, so that when amended it shall read as ~ = follows: - have appropriated, if this item had been inserted in the sundry "The State of Arkansas is divided into two districts, to be -known as civil bill, the receipts referred to in this bill. the eastern and western districts or Arkansas. '.rhe western district B t h · shall include the tenitory embrace-d on the 1st day of July, 1910, in the· u t ere IS no appropriation at all in this bill. All that this counties of Sevier, Howard, Little River, Pike, Hempstead, Millet·, Lafay- bill would accomplish would be to do what is now done--to turn ette. Columbia, Nevada, Ouachita, Union, and Calhoun, which shall con- the money into the r;rreasury, as is now the case, and wllen the stitute the· 'l'exarkana divisi6n of said district; also the territory em- money is once in the Treasm·y there is no way of getting it out . bmccd on tho date last mentioned in the counties of Polk, Scott, Yell, Logan, Seba::;tian, Fmnklin, Crawford, Washington, Benton, and · John- · without an appropriation, and there is no appropriation in this son, whicll shall constitute the Fot·t Smith division of said district; bill. In order that it may be properly corrected, I object. also the territory embraced on the date last mentioned in the counties of Th SPEAKER1 Th tl f nnxter, Boone, Carroll, Madison, Marion, Newton, and Searcy, which e • e · gen eman rom Illinois objects, aml shall constitut0. the Harrison division of said district. Terms of the the bill is stricken from the calendar. The Clerk will report the distr·ict court for the Texarkana divi ion shall be held at Texarkana on· . next one. the second Monclnys in May and November; for the Fort Smith divi· GREAT NORTHEBN RAILWAY. _ sion, at Fort Smith on the second Mondays in January and June; and for· tlle Harrison division, at Hauisou, on the second Mondays in April Th t b · th C 1 d f and October. The eastern distl'ict shall include: the territot·y embraced e nex usmess on e. a en ar or Unanimous Consent on the 1st day of July, 1910, in the counties of Lee, Phillips, St. Fran- was the bill (S. 3897) to authorize the Great Northern Railway cis, Cross, Monroe. Woodruff, Chicot, and Desha, which shall constitute Co. to revise the location of its right of way, and for other the en stern division of said district; also the territory embraced on the purposes. dn te last mentioned in the counties of Independence, Clebume. Stone, Izard, Sll:n·p, and Jackson, which shall constitute the northern division The . Clerk read the title of the bill. of said district; also the territory embraced on the date last mentio11ed The SP-EAKER. Is there objection? in the counties of Crittenden, Clay, Craighead, Greene, Mississippi, Poin- Mr. COOPER Reserving the right to ObJ'ect, Mr. Chairm~'n. sett, Fulton, Randolph, and Lawrence, which shall constitute the Jones- u , i.Joro division of said district; and also the territory embraced on the . I should like to hear :i statement of the purport of the bill. date last mentioned in the counties of Arkansas, Ashley, Bt·adley, Clark, Mr. STOUT. . I ·have no particular .sta:tement to· make, further Cleveland, Conway; Dallas, Drew. Faulkner, Gadand, Gt·ant, Hot Spring, than that made in the report. It is desired to eliminate a very JeffHson, Lincoln, Lonoke, Montgomery, Perry, Pope, Prail'ie, Pulaski, Sa- line, Van Buren, and White, which shall constitute the westem division of heavy grade at the point referred fo in the bill. The length of said district. Terms of the district court for the eastern division shall the right of way which is sought to be abandoned is something be held at Helena on the second Monday in M:at·cb and the fi-rst Monday 1 th 2 'I Th 1 th f th · ht f hi · in October; fer the northern division at Batesville on the fourth Monday ess an mi es. e eng o e ng o way w ch 1S de- in l'llay and the second Monday iil December; ·fot· the ~onesboro division, · ,sit'ed by this bill. is something in excess of a mile. It cuts out at .Jonesboro on the second Monday!> in May and :~Sovembet'; and for a wide curve. The railroad forms the southern boundary of the western division, at Little Rock uu the first Monday in April and Gl · N t' 1 p k Th b'll 'd th t th the third Monday in October. The clerk of the court for the eastern dis- acier a wna ar · e 1 provi es a e land which is ; trict sball maintain an office jn charge of himself or a deputy at Little left between the old and the new rights of way shall be added I noel<, at Helena, at JoneslJoro, and at Batesville, which shall be kept to the national park, in order that the line of.the railway shall open at all times for the tt·ansaction of the business of the coUl't, and t' t tit t th th b d f th ) the clrrk of the court for the ·westem district ·shall maintain an office in con mue 0 cons u e e sou ern oun ary O e park. charge of himself or a deputy ;lt Fort Smith, at Hal'l'ison, and at 'rex· Mr. COOPER. I do not quite understand the last paragraph at·kaoa, wbich shall be kept open at all times for the transaction of the of the report. Is this bill as now presented the bill recom- bu iness of the court." d d b th d t t? SF.c. 2. That all laws and parts of laws in conflict herewith at·e het·eby men e Y e epar men · repealed. Mt·. STOUT. It is. The SPEAKER. The question is on the engross~ent . and 1\Ir. COOPER. It differs from the Senate bill? third rending of the bill. . Mr. STOUT. The bill. recommended by the de·partment is Tlle bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, substituted for the original Senate bill. was readthe third time, and passed. .M:r. COOPER. The report says the committee have had the bill undet· consideration, but there is no statement in the :·c­ Oo motion of l\Ir. FLOYD of Arkansas, a motion to reconsidet· port that that is the bill reported by the committee. the Yote whereby the bill was passed was laid on the table. Mr. STOUT. It is the bill submitted by the department in 'l'lle SPEAKER. The Clerk will rel!ort the next bill. lieu of the original bill as introduced. FOUNDATION FOR TilE PROMOTION OF INDUSTRIAL PEACE. 1\Ir. COOPER. So this is the amendment of the Department The next business on the Calendar for· Unanimous Consent of the Interior? · was the bill (H. n. 2123G) to dissolve the Foundation for the Mr. STOUT. Yes; it is. . Promotion of Industrial Peace, and for othet· purposes. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? 'l'l!e title of the bill was read. There was no objection? The SPEAKER. Is there objection? · The SPEAKER. This bill is on the Union Calendar/ 1\.fr. MANN. I object. Mr. STOUT. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to con- The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois objects, and sider the bill in the House as in Committee of the Whole. the bill is stricken from the Calendar. The Clerk will report The SPEAKER. The geq.tleman from Montana asks unani- the next one. mons consent to consider the bill in the House as in Committee CRATER NATIONAL PARK REVENUE FUND. Of the Whole. IS there.objection? The next business on the Calendat· for Unanimous Consent There was no objection. was tlle bill ( S. 2223) to authorize the use of the revenues in The bill was read, as follows: the Crater Lake National Pa:rk in the management of tlie same, Be it enacted, etc., That, with the consent and approval of the and the construction, repair, and improvement of roads, trails, Sect·etat·y of the Intet·ior and upon the filing with the Interior De- partment and the approval thereof by said Secretary of maps of deft- and bridges in the park. nite location, the Great Northern Railway Co., a corporation of the The title of the bill was read. State of Minnesota, be, and it is hereby, authorized to revise the The SPEAKER. Is there objection? location of that part of its line of railway along the southern boundary of the Glaciet· National Park, in the State of Montana, on the terms 1\lr. .MANN. I reserve the right to object, Mr. Speaker. and conditions and subject to the limitations and restrictions granted l\lr. SINNOTT. · Mr. Speaker, this bill is·one designed to give by and contained in an act of Congress entitled "An act granting to to the Secretary of the Interior authority to expend the re- railroads the right of way through the public lands o! the Unitec! States," approved March 3, 1875 (18 Stats., p. 482), as amended by an cejpts coming from leases, franchises, nnd licenses in Crater act of Congress entitled ".An act making appropriations to supply Lake Park, Oreg., in the improvement of the park. The bill deficiencies in tbe appropriations for the fiscal yeaL' ending Jnne 30, was drawn in the office of the Secretary, and he states that the 1899, and for prior years, and for othet· purposes," approved March 3, 1809 (30 Stats., p. 1233) : Provided, That all lands north of the north Crater Lake Park and tlle Hesa Verde Park, in Colorado, are line of the revised right of way, when said revised line of right of the only parks under his supervision where be has not the way shall have been {lpproved as aforesaid, shall be excluded- from the authority to expend ti1e funds in the mnnagement of the parks. Lewis and Clark National Forest and become and •·emaio pnrt of the Glaciet· National Park, and be subject to all tbe pl'Ovisions of an act of It caL readily be Eeen that this park ougllt to be placed on the Congress entitled "An act to establish ·the Glaciet· N::~.tional I'ar·l,: · fn LII---241 3822 CONGRESSION .AL RECORD--HOUSE. FEBRUARY 15,.

tire Rocky Mountains south of the inte-rnational boundary line in the friends are -anxious about:him; because he has more work than State of Montana, and for other purpo e ," approved May ..11, 1910 (36 Stats., p. 354), and to .all the provisions of any act ·of Congress he sllould do. .I hope the gentleman from ·Illinois will not tba t may hereafter be passed 'relative to aid park, •ana the -regulations object. ·of the ·secretary of the lnterioT heretofore ·or Jlereafter -prescribed in l\fr. accordance with .law :for the government of the park, and .that any MANN. "I do not think this is a very good time to create and all lands south of the -north line of such revised line of right of another judgeship. . .vay -which may· now be within the ·Glacier National Park shall become The SPEAKER. Is there objection? and remain a part of the Lewis and ·Clark National Forest and be Mr. CULLOP. I object. subject to :md be governed by the laws Jleretofore or .hereafter ~nacted ])y Congress and the regulations heretofore or hereafter prescribed by The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indiana [1\Ir. CULLOP] the ecretary of Agriculture "for the· conh·ol of national fot·ests. objects, and the bill is stricken from the calendlll'. . 'With the ·following committee 'amendments: "l'liELIC BUILDING 'AT 'BIDDEFORD, ME. Insert, on ·page '1, in line '6, -after ihe word .. location," · the words The next business ·on the Calendar for Unanimous ·eonsent "within three years from the passage of this act."' ' was the'bill (H. =R. 6134) to amend tlle ·act ·authorizing the cori­ 'Add at the end of the laBt _paragraph on page 3, 'the following : 1 "Provided further, That before .the Secre~ary of the lnteri~r shall CO!J-· 1 truction of a public building at Biddeford, Me. Rent to .and approve the revision of location herein authoriZed the said The Clerk ·read the title of ·the bill. •Great 'Northern :-nailway Co. ·shall file with the .said Secreta-ry a relln-; Jgulshment of all claims, of whatever •nature, to that portion of 1ts' .The SPEAKER. Is tb.ere objection:? right of way aff.e.cted by said -revised lncation." Mr. 'FOSTER. I object. trhe 'committee amendments -were ugreea to. j The SPE :\KER. The -gentleman from llllnois objects. The The bill as amended -was ordered to a ·third r.eading, ·and as, bill is stricken from the calendar. This completes the ·Calendar accordingly read the th~·d time and passed. · for "'Unanimous Consent. On motion .of .Mr. STOUT, a .motion to .reconsider the last vote :Mr. AD.AMSON. There ·are two 11ncontested bridge bills was laid on the table. which -were reportea: too late 'to get onto this calendar. I hope no one will object to allowing me to ask unanimous consent for CERTAIN TOWN SITES IN MONTANA. their 'Consiaeration ·at this1time. :rrhey'Will take only a moment. The next business on the' Dalendur for Unanimous Consent! "The •SP.EAKER. The gentleman from Georgia a:sks unani­ was·the bill ('H. R. 2()198) to ·validate title to certain town sites· mous consent for the ])resent consideration of two bridge bills. ·in the Stn:te of Montana. ; Is there o·b;jection.? .The =Clerk read .the title _o:f the,bill. f 'Mr. DOOEER. 'Mr. 'Speaker, reserving the right to object, The SPEAKER. Is there objection? ~ the House .ls entitlea to know what business is to come up .for Mr. 1\lA.NN; Reserving· the right to -object, I ·should like to consideration. Tl:lese are not emergency measures, mid there­ ask if Mr. Tallman represents the..:r.ailroad comj]any? fore 1 object. Mr. "STOUT. He does not. · 'HOUR OF MEETING TO· MORROW. Mr. l\lANN. This is a "Privrrte .gpecnlation of his ·.own 7 Mr. ·SHERLEY. Ir. Speaker,"'' ask unanimous consent Ulat Mr. ·STOUT. He is just a private individual. -when the:House adjourn to-d~y ..it adjourn to meet at 11 o'clock .l\lr. i\IAN:N. I 'object. and' .to-morrow. . ' The ·sPEAKER. The :gentleman from illinoi-s objects, · . :The :SPEAKER. 'The gentleman from Xentur.ky asks unani- tlle .bill is stticken rom ·fuercalendar. mous consent tba:t rwhen the House adjourn to-day .it adjourn 'WESTERN DISTIDCT 'OF SOUTH -cA:'ROUNA. 1 ·to meet :at 11 o'clock to-morrow. Is .thel'e objection? The ·next business on tlle Calendar fol' .:Unariimorrs Consent· Mr. -RAGSDALE. 'I object. was· the bill (H. 'R . .20894) ,to provide for the appointment of a .ACADEMY :OF :ARTs A-ND LETTERS. ulistrict judge, district attorne-y, and ma:rshal ..for the western! nir. :sLAYDEN. "Mr. Speaker, 1 move to suspend the rules rdistrict of Sout~ Caroli_na. -and ifor ?ther purposes. I ·arrd disch:rrge the Committee on the ·Library from further con- \ The Clerk ~ read the title of th~ · ~1.ll. • ' sidarathm 'Of ·s. "583, ~ incarporating the American Academy nf The .SPEAKER. .Is there obJ,ection? Al'ts and .Letters, and to pass the bill. \ Mr. 1\IANN. I object. . . "The -SPEAKER. The ·gentleman from Texas ·moves to sus- The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Il!inolS obj-ects, ana pend the J.'Ules, discharge the C<:>mmittee on the Library from the bill will be stricken from the ca~endar. . · . further consideration of S. o83, and lJass the bill. Mr. FINLEY. Mr. Speaker, .I Will ask the gentleman :from The Clerk read the bill, as follows: Illinois to withhold ~s objection. . . l Be it enacted, etc., That Willlam Dean Howells, of New York; Henry .Mr. :MANN. Certamly; I .reserve the obJeCtion.· James, of _Massachu etts; Henry Adams, of the District of Columbia; l\Ir ·FINDEY l\Ir Speaker .this proposed leO'islation 'is nee- 'Thomas R:rynesford rA>unsbury, of Connecticut; "Theodore Roosevelt, of · ' ' ' ··1800 000 °J t' and. 1 1 New York; John Smger Sargent, of Massachusetts; Alfred Thayer .e sary. In my State w~ hav~ over • ' PQJ?U a 1?Jl . .. on Y, .Mahan, of New York; Daniel Chester French, of New York; John Bur':' one district judge. While it IS true that there IS a c1rcmt JUdge 'roughs, of New York; James. Ford Rho~es, of Massachusetts; 'Horatio who is appointed from that State, be does not hold any courts 1 William Parkerb of Connecticut; Wilham !lllltgan Sloane, of New . · · · · t k ith hi th . d ti ! Jer ey · Robert nderwood .Johnson, of New York; George Washington lD' South Carolma. HlS time 18 I a en up ~ s 0 . ~r . u es. Cable, of Massachus e tt~; Andrew 'Dickson WhJte, of New York ; llell.l'y ..I will .sny to the gentleman from Illm01s that this bill has van Dy.ke, of New ,Jersey; William -- crary 'Brownell, of New York; Basil passea one House or the other three ·times. ~ . f.)lilik it ·has1 ..Lanneau Gildtrslecve, of -Maryland; Woodrow Wilson, of New .Tersey; · ~ A:rthur Twining HaOley, of Connecticut; HENRY CABOT LODOJ'l, of Massa- passed both Houses twi_ce:. . ·chu etts; Francis Hopkin on Smith, of New Yo1·k; Edwin Bowland Mr. MANN. When did It•.Pa£1S thiS Rouse? · Blashfield -' of New Yotk; William Merritt Chase, of New .York; Thomas -Mr FINLEY. In the Fifty-seventh Congress ·a substa1lfirillyl Hastings,' of New York; Hamilton Wright Mabie, of ·New J~rse! ; . . · · d . Brander Matthews, of New York; 'rhomas Nelson Page, of the Drstrrct Similar bill _passe · · . · • · 1 of Columbia; Elihu Vedder. of Mas achusetts; George Edward Wood- Mr~ :l\IANN. T.hat was 14 .years ago,_and tlley have gotten berry of Massachu~etts; Kenyon Cox, of New York; George Whitefield ::ilong very well 'from tllat time up to (late, and nobody even! X~hadwick, of M~ssacbuse~; Abbott Handerson .Thayer, of New Ramp· roduced the bill 1 ·think l ,shire; John Mmr, o1' Ca!Hornia; ChaTles FranCls Adams, of Massachu- r c int _ ' ' • , - 'Setts · Henry Mills Alden, of New Jersey; George de Fores Brush, of . Ir. .FINLEY. Dh, no; I be_g the gentleman.s pardon. 'The1. New hampshire; William Rutherford Mead, of New York; -John White 'bill has been here in each Congress. , I Alexander, of New York; Bliss Perry, of 1\Iassachu . etts ; Abbott .Law- Mr M~~N It has not been reporteil. :-Ltliink.in the presend renee Lowell, of 1Mas achu~etts; James Whitcomb tRUey, of Indtana; ' · I Nioholzs Murray Butler, of New York; Paul Wayland Bartlett, of New state· of the Treasury they can get along for at least another ·yol.:k. ·Owen WJster, of Pennsylvania; Herbert Adams, of New llamp- year. . } shire; AugusbiS .Thomas, of New ·York ; 'Timothy Cole. of NeW: York, a.n'd - 1\Ir ·FINLEY. 'Tbis bill was ·vetoed .once 'by the •Presfdent their succes ors, 'duly cho en, are hercbr i~cocporated, constituted, an'd · · . ·· · · · · · dO' ·"rn- ' .decla11ed to be a body corporate of•the D1 tnct of Columbia, by the name .on the- -ground that we did not provide a .district JU oe: o..I]Jvery of the American Academy of :Arts and Letters. • tate in the Union .of.anything like the size of ·South Carolina! SEC. 2. That the purposes of this corporation a-re and shall be -the that 'has ·n\"o districts'has two sepaTate·sets of court ·o1ficials. furtherance of the interests of literature ·and the fine .arts. . · r • • b th p 'd t? SEC 3 That the American Academy of Arts and Letters shall conSJst ·1\Ir.:]fANN. .WhQn was thiS bill vetoM: Y e :resi en.· 1 of not more than 50 regular member, and the said corporation hereby :l\lr. FJNLIDY. lit was etoed by -President Roosevelt m the' constituted shall ·have power to make b-y-laws and rules and regulations; ::Flfty-~eventh to nll all -vacancies created · b,Y death, re~ignntion, or othetrjzed and empowel."ed ·to recci\'e beque ts and dona- l'! 1'. · l 'U.J • Wl ay e t o~n eman a . S_ ~S .L tions of· real or·personal property .and to hold tbe same 1n tl'l1. t. and to jndge.is one of the most industrious Jlldges ·on 'the _b.ench m thi81 inve-st and reinvest the same for the purpose of furthering the intet·csts <:onntry. I do not know what he says about it, but some of his of literature and the fine arts. ~915. CONGRESSIONAL -RECORD- HOUSE. 3823

'The SPEAKER Is a second demanded on this bill? the most eminent men in arts and letters are not residents of ~1r. STAl!'FORD. · J'l.fr. Speaker, I demand a second. the Soutb. They do not live there. I have spent all my life in l\ir. SLAYDEN. I ask unanimous consent that a second be the South; I am a southern man. My sympathies are all with considered as ordered. the South, my hopes are for the South, my pride is in the 'J'he SPFn\KEIL The gentleman from Texas asks unanimous South; but on_account of the great Civil War, the poverty and consent that a second be considered as ordered. Is there objec­ distress which it brought upon us, the sacrifices we were called tion? upon to make, the high-class schools of training in arts and There was no objection. letters ba-re been lacking in that section. . Alr. SLAYDEN. Mt·. Speaker, I ha\'e had this bill up once But, Mr. Speaker, we are coming into our own in that restlect. on the Unanimous Consent Calendar, and 1·an against an objec­ 'Ye have produced a number of distinguished men in the last tion. It is a bill that prot)Oses to cl.wrter the Amel'ican Acad­ few years in art and letters, in painting and sculpture, and be­ emy of Arts and Letters, an association of gentlemen distin­ cause these men go from the South where their ser-vices are guisbed in the profession of letters, in painting, in sculpture, not so much required, for the 1·eason that we have not tbe anBoston, and tbey possible be might be mistaken in the statement there are no do like a mechanic Ol' a lawyer or a merchant woulO. under like eminent men from the Southern States-- circumstances-they go to the market in \Yhich they will thrive l.Ur. SLAYDEN . . Oh, I did not say that. and in which their profession has the greatest recognition. l\1r. STEPHENS of Texas. Is it not a fact that in the South­ I call attention to the fact, in reply to the charge that it is ern States be will find uni-re1·sity graduates, and in our own sect ionnl, that 10 of these gentlemeu come from New York City, State men who are graduntes from the very best schools not 8 from Boston, 2 from Cambridge, 1 from Beverly, 1 from only in the United States but in Europe, who are now residents LO\Yell, and 1 from Williamstown, 10 from Connecticut, Ver­ of the South, who are southern born and raised? I dissent mont, nnd New Hampshire, 8 from Ohio, 4 from Indiana, 1 from the gentleman's statement. from Michigan, 8 from Pennsylvania, 2 from New Jersey, and 1\fr. SLAYDEN. But the gentleman did not catch· my state­ ment. However, in reply to him I will state that I have per­ J so on; 11 ~f these gentlemen, while. living mostly in the East, TI·ere born m the South. sonally kno\Yn a great many very distinguished and honorable Mr. Speaker, there is nothing in tLe charge that this associa­ grRduates of t11e greatest universities in the \YOrld \Yho could tion is in ·any respect sectional. Now I will yield to the gentle- not speak and write correct English and who certainly could not man from Minnesota [Mr. MILLER]. · paint a great picture, chisel a worthy statue, or write a high­ l\1r. hliLLER How was this li£t of distinguished men ar­ class book.· · rired at? Mr. SHERLEY. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SLAYDEN. Originally it was a -volunteer association. Mr. SLAYDEN. Yes. l\Ir. 1\liLLER Docs not the gentleman think it is most un­ l\Ir. SHERLEY. I will ask the gentleman what be thinks fortunate that these at'e all practically eastem men and no one of a given number of men, self-appointed, creating themselves west of the Allegheny Mountains except two? through :m act of Congress into a self-perpetuating body that l\Ir.· SLAYDEN. Since its organization there have been people shall determine who shall be entitled to recognition. The thing from west of "the Allegheny l\1ountains, some of the most emi­ a!Jout this that I do not like is the fad that these gentlemen nent in the country among its members. Samuel L. Clemens, appoint themselves as the arbiters of all matters of science null better known pe.rhaps as l\1ark 'l'wain, was a member of the art and determine who sball be worthy of future admission to association, and be lived the first half of his life not only west this academy of immortals. of the Alleghenies, but Ia rgely · w·est 0f the Rocky ~lountains. l\fr. SLAYDEN. Mr. Speaker, I do not personally know much James Whitcomb Riley, of Indiana, and John Muir, of Califor­ about that. I do not recall anything at tbis moment about the nia, who is now dead. were from the West. academy in Germany, the academy in Englaml, or in Spain. Mr. l\fiLLER. I am not opposed to the bill; I am in :..'avor of They have them in all of these countries. We ha Yc all rencl it; but is it not possible to get some recognition for American perhaps more about the French academy, nod I think that acad­ arts and letters, and not localize it all in ~ew York and Massa- cmv selects its own members. chusetts? · hlr. SHERLEY. Aucl what we ha-re rend about the u'rench l\1r. S"DAYDEN. I Rm glad that the gentleman is going to academy is mostly of the distinguished men \Yllo haYc been support the measure, but his statement that this localizes it in denied admission to the French academy, men whom the world New York nncl Massachusetts i!3 inaccurate. I haye no affilia­ admitted to a real hall of fame, in spite of the action of the tion \Yit.h New York, although I go to New York and Boston academy. occnsionally and pay a pretty big hotel bill and meet some agree­ :Mr. SLAYDEN. Ob, being men, no doubt they "ill make mis­ able people, but that is all of my connection with that section. takes. Mr. COOPER. Will the gentleman yield? I yield five minutes to the gentleman from Ohio [l\Ir. FEss]. l\1r. SLAYDEX Yes. 1\Ir. FESS. ~lr. Speaker, when I first read the list of notables Mr. COOPER George Washington Cable, of MassaC..usetts, here enumerated in the tlroposed act I thought there was a good was bom in Louisiana. deal of sectionalism in the bilL But I notice that the very first _. l\11'. Sh!\.YDEN. Yes. name, the president of the association or incorporation we .pro­ Mr. MILLER I lnrow that many of these indh·iduals were pose to incorporate, is W. D. Howells, who Ohio claims. I bom in, the West, where·the best ileOt)Je nrc born, out"they have notice also that the chancellor, William 1\f. Sloane, is an grn-ritated to tbe East. Ohio man, although they are both scheduled in the list as 1\Ir. AUSTIN. Will the gentleman yield? residents of other States. In looking over Who's Who in · l\It•. SLAYDEN. Yes. America I find there are 8 of these men who are really Ohio Mr. AUSTIN. I do not see a resident of. the Southern. States men, anrl I have just learned from the statement of the gentle­ south of the Potomac River in this list of individuals. man from Texas [Mr. SLAYDEN] that there are 11 of them who · ~lr. SLAYDEN. I will say to niy collengue from the South­ are· from tbe ·Soutllern States. I notice· some o.f them who are ,and he can not regret it any more than I do-that :1Lthis time very well known iu the world of achieyement as corning from \ I 3824 CONGRESSIONAL ·RECORD-H-OUSE. FEBRUARY 15, the South. Take, for instance, Mr. Brander Matthews. He is tion or any of the other 32 such associations already in­ domiciled in New York, but a southern man. Then there is corporated. Some of these associations are domiciled at .Mr. Gildersleeve, who was born, as I remember it, in South Philadelphia, others in New York, others in Boston, others in Carolina. Then there is President Woodrow Wilson listed as Pittsburgh, and still others in Washington. They are all incor­ coming from New Jersey, when, as a matter of fact, he was porated under the authority of national law. I sincerely hope born in Virginia. An analysis of the list shows the following objection will not be pressed, bnt this House will show it facts against what has been termed a sectionalism in the bill: appreciation of this sort of achievement. Sixteen come from New York, 13 from .Massachusetts, 5 from The following is a Ust of the officers and members of the Connecticut, 3 from Vermont, 2 from New Hampshire, 8 from American Academy of Arts and Letters: Ohio, 4 from Indiana, 1 from Michigan, 8 from Pennsylvania, {Revised to January, 1915.] 2 from New Jersey, 11 from the Southern States, and 6 from OFFICERS. forejgn countries. President, Mr. Howells; chancellor and treasurer, Mr. Sloane; per­ It is easy to understand why they are printed as coming manent secretnry, Mr. Johnson. Dit·ectors, Messrs. Blash.field. Brownell, Hastings, Howells, J obnson, from the East, and especially the great centers. These men Mead, and Sloane. - who haYe di tinguished themselves in various fields of art and MEliBERS. letters are located in places where they can get together, where William Dean Howells, Augustus Saint-Gaudens (deceased), Edmund a community of interest is possible. They have gotten together, Clarence Stedman (deceased), John La. Farge (deceased), Samuel Lang­ horne Clemens (deceased), John Hay (deceased), Edward MacDowell eYidently, and have asked for this incorporation to giYe them (deceased). Henry James, Charles Follen McKim (deceased), Henry the recognition and dignity that goes with the incorporation Adam , Charles Eliot Norton (deceased), John Quincy Adams Ward by the authority of the Nation. It does not mean that the (deceased), Thomas Rainsford L-ounsbury, Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas :Bailey Aldrich (deceased), Joseph J e1Ierson (deceased) , John Singer number is to be limited to these who are asking to be incor· Sa1·gent, Richard Watson Gilder (deceased), Horace Howard Furness porated whose names are in the proposed act, and therefore (deceased), John Bigelow (deceased), Winslow Homer (decea ed), I think that that objection would not be valid. · Carl Schurz (deceased), Alfred Thayer Mahan (deceased), Joel Chandler Harris (deceased), Daniel Chester French. John Bnrroughs • James Ford Mr. MARTIN. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Rhodes, Edwin Austin Abbey (deceased), Horatio Wiluam1 Parhooer, Mr. FESS. Yes. William Milligan Sloane, Edwat·d Everett Hale (deceased), Robert 1\Ir. MARTIN. Has the gentleman noticed that the bill does Underwood Johnson, George Washington Cable, Daniel Coit Gilman (deceased), Thomas Wentworth Higginson (deceased), Donald Grant propose to limit the number of this association at any time Mitchell (deceased), Andrew Dickson White, Henry van Dyk;;, William to 50? Crary Brownell, Basil L:mneau Gildersleeve, Julia Ward Howe (de­ Mr. FESS. That is, of regular members. All associations ceased), Woodrow Wilson, Arthur Twining Hadley, Henry Cabot Lodge, Francis Hopkinson Smith, Francis Marion Crawford (deceased), Henry of this kind have two classes of members-regular and asso­ Charles Lea (deceased), Edwin Howland Blashfield, William Merritt ciate. Sometimes they are classed as regular and honorary. Chase, Thomas Hastings Hamilton Wright Mabie, Bronson Howard Other associations classify under the heads active and associate (deceased), Brander Matthew~!. Thomas Nelson Page, Elihu Vedder, George Edward Woodberry, Wiuiam Vaughn Moody (deceased), Kenyon members. Cox, George Whitefield Chadwick, Abbott Handerson Thayer, John Mr. MARTIN. Is there any provision in the bill for any Muir (deceased), Charles Francis Adams, Henry Mills Alden, George other kind of members? de Forest Brush. William Rutherford Mead. John White Alexander, Bliss Perry, Francis Davis M111et (deceased), Abbott Lawrence Lowell, Mr. FESS. I see no provision; but it would not prevent the James Whitcomb Riley, Nicholas Murray Butler. Paul Wayland Bartlett, election of associate members, just as in the American Histori­ George Browne Post (deceased), Owen Wister, Herbe1·t Adams, Au· cal Association or other similar associations. gustus Thomas, Timothy Cole, Cass Gilbert, William Roscoe Thayer. 1\lr. 1\IA.l~N. The bill does provide for the election of hon­ l\fr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, no bill in my memory which orary and associate members. has sought to form a close corporation has embodied the idea l\fr. FESS. I thank the gentleman for calling my attention that it was not subject to revi ion and repeal by the Congres . to that. I had not noticed it. Mr. Speaker, I sent over to the Here we provide by this bill-different from the Hou.. e bill, 'Library a moment ago for a list of simHar associations incor­ which had the repealable clause-the authority that these gen­ porated· by the authority of Congress. The list sent to me tlemen, estimable, holding high positions as they do, may con­ numbers 64. Since receiving it I went to the telephone to ver­ stitute themselves a small, exclusive body to determine who ify the statement that these have all been incorporated by act shall be included within the class of immortals. I do not wish of Congress, and am told that they have been, and, if I desired to dispute that these persons named have achieYed high distinc­ it, the date of the act would be furnished. The list is as fol­ tion in the realm of letters, painting, and the like, but a mere lows: glance over the list shows that it is sectional in its character. 1. Academy of Natural Sciences Philadelphia. I take issue with the author of this bill that thei"e are not men 2 . Academy of Science, St. Loms.1 :ITom the South, men :ITom the West, the Middle West, and the 3. Academy of Science and Art of Pitt.sburgh. far West, who have achieved as much distinction in the line of 4. Academy of Science and Letters, Sioux City. 5. American Academy of Dramatic Art. letters as those men who are named here. 6. American Academy of Political r.nd Social Science. .Mr. SLAYDE....~. 1\Ir. Speaker, if the gentleman is referring 7 . .A.me1·ican Forestry Association. to me., I hope he will take the ·stenographer's notes and .see that 8. A.rncrican Fore try Congress. 9. Amel'ican Historical Association. he is quoting me absolutely incorrectly. 10. American Institute of Architects. l\fr. STAFFORD. I do not intend to quote the gentleman in­ 11. American In titute of Electrical Engineers. correctly, but I say that there are men in the South who have 12. Amel'ican In tltute of Mining Engineers. 13. American-Irish Historical Society. achieved a.s high distinction in the realm of letters-for in­ 14. American-Jewish Historical. Society. stance, James Lane Allen-- 15. American Philological Association. Mr. SLAYDEN. I hope the gentleman-- 16. .American Philosophical Association. 17. American Psychological Association. 1\Ir. STAFFORD. And other men who, by their records in 18. American Society cf Mechanical Engineers. art and literature, have ·achieved as high worth as these men, 19 . .Arch::eological Institute of America. some of whom are on the verge of the grave and some of whom 20. Associatbn of Engineering Societies.· 21. Illuminating Engineering Society. have already passed into the realm beyond. 22. National Academy of Design. 1\Ir. SLAYDEN. Will the gentleman yield? 23. National Academy of Sciences. Mr. STAFFORD. I yield. 24. National Institute of Arts and Letters. 25. National Institute of Social Sciences, Mr. SLAYDEN. I protest against the gentleman putting 26. Southern Historical :, ociety. words in my mouth which I did not say. . 27. Unitarian Historical Society, Boston. Mr. STAFFORD. I did not refer to the gentleman in my 2 . California Academy of Sciences. 29. New York Academy of Sciences. second statement. The gentleman misunderstands me entirely. 30. Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia. Mr. SLAYDEN. '.rhe gentleman repeated it a second time. 31. American Philosophical Society, held at Philadelphia, for Pro- moting Useful Knowledge. Mr. STAFFORD. And I repeat it a third time. 32. Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching. MI-. SLAYDEN. And I desire to protest that I did not say 33. Carnegie Institution of Washington. anything of the kind. 3~. National Conservatory of .Music. Mr. STAFFORD. I am not saying what the gentleman said, I hope that there will be no serious objection to this national ' but I will repeat it a third time, that there are gentlemen as recognition of the effort toward the organization of an academy worthy of inclusion in this list from the South and West as of arts and sciences. It is only another item in the great those who are named. There are two fundamental objections. mo\ement toward the better and higher appreciation of things We are seeking to create by act of Congress a corporation with that are worth while. The objection that it is undemocratic certain 50 named persons designated, and another provision lim­ is without force. If denial is placed upon that ground, then iting the number hereafter to 50. If there were no restric­ all such organizations should be so opposed. I do not see any tions as to the number, the objection would not be liO great, serious objection to this any more than to the American Hi~ but here you create a small class of 50 selected dignitaries­ torical Association or to the American Philosophical Associa- -you leave it to these men to say who shall be considered a.s a 1915. . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE. 3825

select class, the only worthy of the worthy. I do not think that Mr. Speaker, this bill is in substance an application made by is American. I have no objection to a corporation being formed a number of American citizens, distinguished in arts and letters, which comprises all who are entitled to it nationally, but when who desire to incorporate as a national assoc-iation, having for it comes to enacting a law which creates a class which shall its purpose the furtherance of the interests of literature and arrogate to itself the privilege of determining that they alone the fine arts in the United States. No one here will venture have the high characteristics to obtain membership to this select to question the entire worthiness of that purpose. No one but class I dissent because I know many who are equally as worthy desires that literature and the fine arts may be encouraged, as those who are included, even though they happen not to that their standards may be elevated; that their appreciation be domiciled in the sacred precincts of the commercial center may be increased. If the Congress of the United States can of the country, not the literary center but the commercial cen­ by this mere recognition of ·the worthiness of their purpose ter-New York. aid these gentlemen in their endeavor to further these interests Mr. STEENERSON. Will the gentleman. yiel~? it ought to do so. Mr. STAFFORD. I will. . The American Academy of Arts and Letters as a voltmtary Mr. STEENERSON. Does the gentleman think the United association has been in existence some years. It will doubtless States Government ought to be represented on this board, that d>ntinue its existence whether we incorporate it or not. But some of the officials, like the Commissioner of Education or it is desired that as this association is composed of men from some other officials, the President of the United States? all over the United States and is national in its scope, it be Mr. STAFFORD. That is worthy of consideration, except given .national recognition, just as we have given national t.hat might include many worthy people. recognition to the American Academy of Political and Social Mr. PLATT. The President of the United States is included. Science, to the American Historical Association, to the National Mr. STAFFORD. That is not officially. He is included by Academy of Sciences, and to some 30 other national associations reason of his historical writings, essays, and very worthily so, of similar character. on account of the position he has occupied in the realm of Mr. SHERLEY. Will the gentleman yield? letters. Mr. TOWNER I will. Mr. PLATT. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHERLEY. Why do they need a special act of Con­ Mr. STAFFORD. Yes. gress? They can incorporate under the laws of practically Mr. PLATT. Does not the gentleman think after this asso­ every State in the Union or under the laws of the District of ciation has been incorporated we can easily get np another one Columbia? to take in all those very worthy men, and even ourselves, if · Mr. TOWNER I think that is a very pertinent inquiry, and necessary? I will say in reply that, so far as I am informed, it is only 1\fr. SHERLEY. If the gentleman will permit, that goes to because they desire to add as much dignity and importance to the main question. These gentlemen have a perfect right to the association as is possible. associate themselves together and put the seal of their approval Mr. SHERLEY. Now, if the gentleman please, is it not the upon whom they please; but for them to come and ask the Con­ real reason that they hope by virtue of an act of Congress to gress to delegate to them the seal of authority to det~rmine have themselves designated as the exclusively chosen patrons of who are fit to be within an exclusive class of 50 immortals is art and letters? · to undertake something that comes mighty near the extreme of egotism and presumption, no matter what the ability of these Mr. TOWNER. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman wollld reflect, gentlemen. I think he would not desire to asperse the character of those men by attributing to ·them any such selfish purpose. I Mr. STEENERSON. Mr. Speaker-- I 1\Ir. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I must decline to yield fur­ Mr. SHERLEY. Oh, if the gentleman-- ther. We surrender to them for all time the right of Congress :Mr. TOWNER. I decline to yield any further, lli. Speaker, I to repeal this act, never before, in my knowledge, done; and I because I have not the time. challenge anyone to say where in any of these 36 similar in­ These men are representative of that which is best in Ameri­ / corporations of th~ past Congress did not reserve the right to can art and letters. They are incapable of such an unworthy repeal, and yet under this bill we surrender that privilege. desire as the gentleman ascribes to them. In so .far as any Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Will the gentleman yield? selfish pm·pose is indicated, it is only that the association may Mr. STAFFORD. How much time have I occupied? become more efficient and influential in promoting art and let­ The SPEAKER Seven minutes. ters in the United States. It is not intended that an exclusive Mr. STAFFORD. I yield to the gentleman from Texas. cult shall be formed which shall determine standards or ideals. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Does the gentleman remember It·is certainly proper to place a limit on the membership of an the instance of three tailors who got into a back room in a association of this kind. That is always done. But how un­ tailor shop in London and declared that those three were the reasonable it is to charge that because a number of men and people of London, and proceeded then to give directions to the women desire to associate themselves for the furtherance of British Empire? any worthy purpose, such an endeavor is an· attempt to arro­ Mr. STAFFORD. We do not have to go to London to find gate to themselves exclusive possession of merit or distinction that. We·find it here in this country. I reserve the balance of in such field. Other associations may be formed. Individual my time. effort is not in any way discredited or handicapped. In order to Mr. SLOAN. Will the gentleman yield? better accomplish a worthy purpose these gentlemen, who have Mr. STAFFORD. I will. won distinction in their several lines, who stand for that which 1\lr. SLOAN. I desire to ask the gentleman from Wisconsin is best and most elevated in American letters and art, desire if he has disco~ered any reason why Walt Mason, the most to associate themselves into an organization that shall assist in widely read, and the most generally read, and the best-paid poet advancing the cause and increasing the influence of letters and on the Western Continent, a citizen of Nebraska, loaned tem­ art. This is a worthy purpose. We should encourage rather porarily to Kansas, is not mentioned in that list? than disparage it. Mr. STAFFORD. You can keep on citing names ad infinitum Mr. DIES. Will the gentleman yield? of men illustrious in the realm of letters who are entitled as Mr. TOWNER For a question only. much to inclusion in this list as this sel~t few. Mr. DIES. I would like to ask the gentleman how many new I reserve the balance of my time. How much time have I stars ha ~e been added to the constellation since we killed the used, Mr. Speaker? bill before? The SPEAKER. The gentleman has used eight minutes. Mr. TOWNER I hardly know what the gentleman means. Mr. SLAYDEN. Mr. Speaker, now much time have I left? If he means that the selection of membership does not meet The SPEAKER The gentleman from Texas has five minutes with his approval, I will say to the gentleman that any selec­ remaining. tion that could be made would be subject to criticism. Mr. SLAYDEN. Mr. Speaker, I ask the gentleman: from Wis­ 1\lr. DIES. I want to know if there are any new names. consin to go on and use some more of his time. The SPEAKER. The gentleman declines to yield. Mr. STAFFORD. I am strongly opposed to this bill in its Mr. TOWNER. The charge has been made before and is present form. I am under obligations to yield five minutes to again urged that the bill is sectional; that in the names of the a gentleman in favor of it, the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. incorporators there are too many from the East and too few TOWNER]. from the West and South. As I view it, that objection, if Mr. TOWNER. Mr. Speaker, I am grateful to the gentleman true in fact, should be given little weight. If a number of from Wisconsin [Mr. STAFFORD], who controls the time for the gentlemen in any worthy cause of this character desire to asso­ opposition, yet generously yields to me, knowing I will support ciate themselves and they are of enough distinction to compel the bill. national respect and approval, even if they were all from a 3826 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. :FEBRUARY 15, \ single State or city, I would not consider that fact a sufficient reason why we should not recognize them. But the sectional objection has little ·basis in fact. In giving Abroad (including Muir, of California, and Schurz, of Missouri)____ '6 the present location of the organizing members it appears that ~~s~i~~~======~~======Total ______79· ~ a large number are found in New York, Boston, and the East. But the chairman, Mr. Howells, is from Ohio, as is the chan­ lillSUllt. . cellor and treasurer, Mr. Sloane. There are eight Ohio men in New York City and State------16 Boston and ~assachusetts------13 the as ociation. There are 11 from the Southern States. Chase, Connecticut, Vermont, and New Hampshire ______:. ______10 Pennsylvania and New Jet·sey ______10 the a rti t, and Riley, the poet, come from Indiana. · Cable Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan ______13 comes from Louisiana, Joel Chandler Harris from Georgia, and South------11 John l\fuir was a Californian. Woodrow Wilson is put down Wisconsin and California (resident, Muir) ______: _____ 1 from New Jersey, but he was born in Virginia. .Many men of Abroad (besides Muir, including Carl Schurz, of Missouri)------5 arts and letters have gravitated to the eastern center~ because Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I yield two minutes to the they find in such centers the association, the market, and the gentleman from Kentucky [1\lr. SHERLEY]. material for their work. To urge this objection under the cir­ 1\fr. SHERLEY. Mr. Speaker, I do not desire to reflect upon cumstances is an exhibition of narrow provincialism unworthy any of the individuals named in this list. Some of them I of the l\lembers of this House. happen to have the pleasure of h.'1lowing. All of them are men It is not likely if we fail to incorporate the association it of distinction, and I in no way object to the bill because of the will be materially injured by such failure. The association can absence of the names of men residing in the South. I am not continue its work as· a voluntary association without national sectional in my opposition. I realize fully thnt art and science official recognition. But we shall injure ourselves if we do know no geographical limitations, and it is for that very reason not pass this bill. Our refusal to do so for reasons assigned to­ that I deeply re ent the egotism that I believe underlies this day will not be creditable to us. We should be able, at least movement. It is not the first time in the history of the world occasionally, to be broadminded, and to understand and appre­ when men distinguished in art and letters have, from what they ciate some of the things that rise above neighborhood preju­ thought ~·ery proper motive, or, as the gentleman from Iowa dices. It will be altogether creditable to the American Congress put it, a desire to elevate the world in art- and letters, under­ if it shall pass this bill. It will be a reflection upon our intel­ taken to arrogate to themselves the sole right of determining ligence if we refuse to pass it. what shall be thought worth while in art and letters and who 1\lr. FESS. 1\lr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to extend shall be worthy of the approval of these self-appointed cen­ my remarks in the RECORD. sors. The world has grown too big for academies of 50 people The SPEAKER. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The to pass upon eligibility for fellowship in the society of in­ Chair hears none. tellectual endeavor and achievement, and there is nothing more l\Ir. FERRIS. Mr. Speaker, I make a similar request. I distinctly un-American than for the National Congress to give want to print a letter from Robert Underwood Johnson. its sanction to 50 self-appointed individuals, no matter how TtJ SPEAKER. Is there objection? eminent they may be, with power to perpetuate themselves and Mr. .MANN. Suppose everybody did that? Everyone has a their association and to put the ban of their di sapproval or the letter from l\fr. Johnson. · smile of their approval upon all who may knock hereafter for i\lr. FERRIS. They have not had a good one, like this. recognition · in art, in science, or in literature. And, as I said The SPEAKER. Is there objection? [After a pause.] The a moment ago to the gentleman from Texas [Mr. SLAYDEN], a Chair hears none. good many academies of the world, self-created, have become llr. FERRIS. Mr. Speaker, the letter is from the Bon. Rob­ famous because of the men they refused admission to rather ert Underwood Johnson, formerly editor of the Century Maga­ than on account of those that they admitted within their sacred zine. He is a fluent writer and a distinguished citizen of the portals. [Applause.] Repub:· ':! . His letter has certain value to this question. It is The SPEAKER. 'rhe gentleman from Wiscon"i!l [Mr. STAF· pertinent and deserves a place in the CoNGRESSIONAL RECORD in FORD] has five minutes left. \ connection ·with this bill. It is as follows: Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Speaker, I yield to thf' gentleman from THE CENTURY ASSOCI.A.TIO~, Illinois [Mr. MANN] three minutes. · "' West Fo1·ty-third Street, February 12, 1915. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illiuois [Mr. MANN] DF.AR MR. FERRIS : If you were selecting the best chemists in the is recognized for three minutes. country, would you select them according to States or according to Mr. M~TN. Mr. Speaker, this bill is a companion piece to the distinction? As a matter of fact, the members of the American Academy of Arts law creating the National Institute of Arts and Letters that and Letters since its organization is geographically well distributed we passed some time ago. I believe the membership in that in­ if yon take the birthplaces of the 79 members, living or dead. You seeJ stitute is 2GO, or something like that. wr'tters and artists come to New York and Boston for their market ana for the sympathy and comradeship found in large cities. I inclose a list. Mr. SLAYDEN. That is right. Will yon not have the justice and kindness to show it to those who at·e llr. MANN. This provides for the American Academy of Arts affected by the geographicaL distribution of residences? No amount of and Letters, with a membership of 50. Both of these institutions residence in New York can obscure the fact that Mark Twain was a Missourian So is Augustus Thomas. Howells, Sloane, Kenyon, Cox haye been in operation for a number of years. The American all came from Ohio; Cass Gilbert from Michigan; Chase, the artist, Acae they get a proposition of this motion was rejected. kind through the House with the aid of our votes [Applause.] INTERSTATE COMMERCE IN THE .PRODUCTS OF CHILD LABOR. BRIDGE AOROSS THE SUWANEE RIVER, FLA. 1\Ir. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and The JPEAKER. Before the Chair recognizes the gentleman pass the bill (H. ill. 1.2292) to preYent interstate commerce in from Wisconsin [Mr. CooPER], he desires to announce the can­ the products of child labor, and for other purposes, as amended. cellation of his signd ture to the bill · S. 7555) to authorize the Mr. I\fANN. I will ask the gentleman fTOm Pennsylvania construction of a bridge across the Suwanee River, in fue State whether the motion is to pass the ·House substitute as it is of Florida. rn·inted? AMERICAN ACADEMY OF ARTS A:r..TJ> LETTERS. 1\Ir. .PAL~IER. ;yes; the amended bill as it is printed in the report. The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from Wisconsin [.Mr. Mr. .l\IAl\~. As it is printed in bill form, as amended? CooPER] for four and one-half minutes. I\1r. PALMER. Yes. Mr. COOPER. Mr. Speaker, I am heartily in favor of this The SPEAK:ER. Of com·se, whatever is read from the desk bill. Gentlemen hnve given various rea ons for opposing 1t. is what will be ''"oted upon. Some have said that its tendency is exclusive, aristocratic, sec­ The Clerk will report the bill. tional, and that it confers unwarranted special privileges. :But The Clerk rend the bill, as follows: it is no more exclusive, aristocratic, or -sectional than are the 'Be it enaotfd, eto., That it .shall be unlawful fol· any p~:ooucer, man· 34 or 35 C011)0rations that Congress already has created, nqr ufacturer or dealer to ·ship or deliver for s-hipment in interstate com· does it confer nny more unwarranted privileges. We already me.rce the products of any mine or quarry which have been produced, in whole or in part, by the labor of children under the age of 16 years, have the American Academy of Sciences; we already haTe -the or the products of any .mill, cannery, workshop_. factory, m: ·manufac­ American Historical Society. '!'his bill merely proposes to create turin"" establishment which have been produced, m whole or m part. by a sister society to these to inc! ude in its membership painters, the labor of children under the age of 14 years, or by the labor of 3828 CONGRESSIONAL -RECORD-HOUSE;· FEBRUARY 15 ·' \ ' \ children between the age of 14 years and 16 years, who work more The question was taken; and there were-yeas 63 nays 201 than eight hours in any one day, or more than six days in any week, or after the hour of 7 o'clock p. m. or before the hour of 7 o'clock a. m. not voting, 15{), as follows : ' ,. SEc. 2. That· the Attorney General, the Secretary of Commerce, and [Roll No. 59.] the Secretary of Labot· shall constitute a board to make and publish from time to time uniform rules and regulations for cal'l'ying out the YE.A8-63. provisions of this act. Adamson Davenport Helm Post ~F.<'. 3. That for the purpose of securing proper enforcement of this Aiken Dies Henry Ragsdale act the Secretary of Labor, or any pet·son duly authorized by him, shall Ashbrook Dough ton Hoxworth Rayburn have authority to enter and Inspect at any ttme mines, quarries, mllls, As well Dupre Hughes, Ga. Saunders canneries, workshops, factories, and manufacturing establishments in Bailey Eagle Hull Slayden which goods are pt·oduced fot· interstate commerce. . Bell, Ga. Fergusson Johnson, S. C. Small . SEc. 4. That it shall be the duty of each distt·ict attorney to whom Booher Ferris Kirkpatrick Stedman the Secretary of Labor shall report any violation of this act, or ttl Borchet·s FiP.lds Lazaro Stephens, Miss. whom any State factory ot· mining or quarry inspector, commissioner Byrnes, S. C. Finley Lee, Ga. TaTigart of Jabor, State medical inspector, or school-attendance officer, or any Callaway Fordney Lever Tr bble othet· person shall pr·esent satisfactory evidence of any such violation Carlin Glass Moon Vinson . to cause appropriate proceedings to be commenced and prosecuted in Chandler, N. Y. Gordon Morgan, Okla. Weaver the pt•opt>r courts of the United States without delay for the enforce­ Claypool Gregg Murray Webb ment of the penalties as in such cases herein {lrovided. Cline Hardy Page, N. C. Witherspoon SEC. G. That any person, partnership, association, or corporation, or Young, •.rex. any agent or employee thereof manufacturing, producing or dealing Collier Harrison Pat·k In the products of any mine, quarry, mill\ cannery, worksnop,1 factory, Crisp Heflin Parker, N.J. or manufacturing establishment who sba 1 violate any of the provi­ NAY8-201. sions of section 1 of this act, or who shall refl:Se or obstruct the entry Abercrombie Edmonds Konop Rainey ot· inspection authorized by section 3 of this act, shall be guilty of a Adair Esch Lafferty Raker mlsdemeanot· and shall be punished by a fine of not more than $1,000 Rauch not· less than $100, or by imprisonment for not more than one. year Alexander Evans La Follette not· less than one month, or by both fine and imprisonment, in the dis­ Allen Fairchild Langham Reilly, Conri. cretion of the court: Pt·ovided, That no dealer shall be subject to Andet·son Falconer Langley Reilly, Wis. conviction under tbe provisio:1s of this section who shall establish a Austin Farr Lenroot Rogers · guaranty Issued by the person by whom such goods were manufactured Baker Fess Levy Rouse ot· produced, and residing in the United States, to the effect that in Baltz FitzHenry Lewis, Md. Ruhey the manufactUl'e apd production of such 'goods, neither in whole nor Barchfeld Flood, Va. Lieb Russell in part, bad children been employed or permitted to work in any mine Barkley Floyd, Ark. Lindbergh Seldomridge or quarry under the age of 16 years, or in any mill, cannery, work­ Barton Foster Linthicum Shackleford shop, factory, ot· manufacturing establishment under the age of 14 Beakes Fowler Lobeck Sherley years, or between the ages of 14 years and 16 -years, who worked more Beall, Tex. Francis Lonergan Sherwood than ·eight hours in any one day, or more than six days in any week, Bell, Cal. Frenc!J McAndrews Sims or after the hour of 7 o'clock p. m. or before the hour of 7 o'clock a. m. Britten Gallagher McKellar Sinnott Said guaranty, to alford the protection above provided, shall contain Brown, N.Y. Gallivan McKenzie Sloan the name and address of the person giving the same, and In such event Browne, Wis. · Garner McLaughlin Smith, Ida'lO such person shall be amenable to any prosecution, fine or penalty to Browning Garrett, Tenn. MacDonald Smith, .J . M. C. which the person seeking the protection of such guaranty would other­ Brumbaugh Garrett, Tex. 1\ladoen Smith, Minn. wise have been subject under the provisions of this act. The word Bryan . Gill Maguire, Nebr. Smitli, N.Y. "dealer" as used in this act shall be constt·ued to include any indi­ Buchanan, Ill. Gillett Mapes Smith, Saml. W. vidual or corporation, or the members of any partnership or other Buchanan, Tex. Gilmore Martin Smith, Tex. unincorporated association. Bulkley Gittins Metz Stafford SEc. 6. That in prosecutions under this act each shipment or deliv­ Burke, S. Dak. Goodwin, Ark. Miller Steenerson ery for shipment shall constitute a separate offense. Burke, Wis. Gray Mitchell Stephens, Cal. SEc. 7. That this act shall take effect from and after one year from Burnett Green, Iown. Mondell Stephens, Nebr. the. ~ate of its passage. · Byrns, Tenn. Greene, Mass. Morrison Stephens Tex. Candler, Miss. Greene, Vt. Moss, Ind. Stevens, Minn. The SPEAKER. Is a second demanded? Caraway Guernsey Moss, W.Va. Stevens, N. H, Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr . . Speaker, I demand a Carter Hamilton, Mich. Mott Stone Chut·ch Hamilton, N. Y. Mulkey Stout second. Clancy Hamlin Murdock Stringer Mr. PA.UIER. I ask unanimous consent that a second may Coady Hayden Neeley, Kans. Sumners be considered as ordered. . Connelly, Kans. . Helgesen Neely, W. Va. Sutherland Connolly, Iowa Helvet·ing Nelson Talcott, N. Y. 'rhe SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania asks Cooper Hill Norton Tavenner unanimous consent that a second be considered as oruered. Cox Hinds O'Halr TenEyck Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. I object. Cramton Hinebaugh Oldfield '£hom as Cullop Houston Padgett Thompson, Okla. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from South Carolina objects, Curry Hughes, W. Va. Paige, Mass. Towner \ and the Chair will appoint the gentleman from South Carolina Davis Humphreys, Miss. Palmer • Vaughan [Mr. BYRNES] and the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Decker lgoe Parker, N. Y. Vollmer Deitrick Jacoway Peters Volstead PALMER] as tellers. Dershem Johnson, Ky. Peterson Walsh The House divided, and the tellers reported that there were Dickinson Keating Phelan Watkins Dillon Kennedy, Co~n. Platt Wingo 54 ayes .and 32 noes. Dixon Kennedy, Iowa Plumley Woods Mr. TRIBBLE. Mr. Speaker, I make the point that no Donovan Kent Porter Young, N. Dak. quorum is present. Doolittle Kindel Pou Driscoll Kinkaid Powers The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Georgia makes the Knowland, J. R. Quln point that no quorum is present, and evidently there is not. Eagan The Doorkeeper will close the doors and the Sergeant at Arms NOT VOTING-159. Ainey Dooling Howard Morgan, La. will notify the absentees. . Anthony Doremus Howell Morin Mr. CRISP. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now Avis Drukker Hulinfts Nolan, J. I. adjourn. Barnhart Dunn Hump rey, Wash. O'Brien Bartholdt Edwards Johnson, Utah Or,lesby 'rhe question was taken,· and on a division (demanded by Bartlett Elder Johnson, Wash. 0 Sbaunessy Mr. PALMER) there were--36 ayes and 64 noes. Bathrick Estopinal Jones Patten, N. Y. 1\Ir. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I ask for the Blackmon Faison Kahn Patton, Pa. Borland Fitzgerald Keistet· Price yeas and n~ys. Bowdle Frear Kelleyi> Mich. Pt·outy Mr. TRIBBLE. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Brockson Gard Kelly, a. Reed The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Georgia will state it. Brodbeck Gardner Kenl:ledy, R. I. Rio,rdan Broussard George Kettner Roberts, Ma£-s. Mr. TRIBBLE. When the call comes on the point of no Brown, W. Va. Gerry Key, Ohio Roberts, Nev. quorum, will the vote be on an adjournment? -Bruckner Godwin, N.C. Kiess, Pa. Rothermel 'rhe SPEAKER. If there are enough Members rise to order Burgess Goeke Kitchin Rucker Burke, Pa. Goldfogle Korbly Rupley the yeas and nays, the vote will be on the question to adjourn. Butler Good Kreider Sa bath Mr. PALMER. If a sufficient number of Members do not Calder Gorman Lee, Pa. Scott arise to get the yeas and nays, will the vote be on .the ad- Campbell Goulden L'Engle Scully Cantor Graham, Ill. Lesher Sells journment? . Can trill Graham, Pa. Lewis, Pa. Shreve The SPEAKER. No; and if the yeas and nays are refused, Carew Griest Lindquist Sisson the House will have refused to adjourn by a vote of .64 to 36. Carr Griffin Lloyd Slemp Cary Gudger Loft Smith, Md. The question is on taking the vote by yeas and nays, and all Casey Hamill LQgue Sparkman those in favor of taking the voje by yeas and nays will rise. Clark, Fla. Harris McClellan Stanley [After counting.] Twenty-eight Members; a sufficient number. Co my Hart McGillicuddy Switzer Copley Haugen McGuit·e, Okla. 'l'albott, Md. Mr. PALMER. The other side, Mr. Speaker. Crosser Hawley Mahan Taylor, Ala. The SPEAKER. Those opposed -to taking the vote . by yeas Dale Hay Maher 'faylor, Ark. and nays will rise. [After counting.] Sixty-five gentlemen have Danforth Bayes Manahan Taylor, Colo. Dent Hensley Mann Taylor, N. Y. arisen. Twenty-:,eight is a suffi.~ient number, and the· Clerk will Difenderfer Hobson Montague Temple call the roll on the motion to adjourn. Donohoe HoUand Moore Thacher 1915. CONGRESSIONAL ~ RECORD--HO_USE. 3829 I j Thomson, Ill. Underwood · _ Watson Wilson, Fla. ·Mr. MANN. Mr. ·speaker, the roll call discloses the· l)resence Townsend Vare Wbaley Wilson, N. -Y. Treadway Walker Whitacre Winslow -­ of a . quorum...... · Tnttk Wallin Wbite - Woodruff 1\fr. PALMER. The only other question was the pomt of no UndeL·hill Walters Williams quorum. Tha~ has been disposed of. So the motion to adjourn was rejected. The SPEAKER. That is true. The Doorkeeper will open The Clerk announced tbe following pairs: the ·doors. For the session: · Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr. Speaker, when the vote Mr. UNDERWOOD with Mr. MANN. was taken by tellers the point of no quorum was made. Until further notice: The SPEAKER. Not when taken by tellers. Mr. GRAHAl\1 of Illinois with :Mr. ArNEY. Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. No quorum was present Mr. WILSON of Florida with Mr. DUNN. when the vote was taken by tellers. . 1\lr. 1\lcGILLICUDDY with Mr. DANFORTH. - The SPEAKER. The Chair does not recall that anybody Mr.' CONRY with Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island. raised the. point on the vote by tellers on _ordering the second: Mr. DALE with Mr. SwiTZER. l\fr. BYRNES of South Carol~a. The point was raised, Mr. .Mr. WHALEY with 1\Ir. HAMILTON of New York. Speaker. Mr. BARNHART with Mr. ANTHONY. . The SPEAKER. The Chair understood that the point of Mr. BARTLETT with Mr. BUTLER. no quorum was made on the motion to suspend the ru1es and Mr. BLACKMON with Mr. AVIS. pass the bill. · l\lr. BORLAND with Mr. CALDER. 1\fr. BYRNES of South Carolina. That motion was made. Mr. BROWN of West Virginia with Mr. CAMPBELL. The gentleman from Georgia [Mr. TRmBLE] made the point of Mr. BURGESS with Mr. CARY. no quorum when the announcement of the vote by tellers was Mr. CANTRILL with Mr. BuRKE of Pennsylvania. . made on ordering a second. Mr. CASEY with l\fr. DRUKKER. 1\fr. TRIBBLE. That is correct. 1\:Ir. CLARK of Florida with Mr. FREAR. 'l'he SPEAKER. In any event a quorum is now present. · 1\Ir. DENT with Mr. CoPLEY. Mr. TRIBBLE. Ther~ war no. quorum. present when the vote Mt·. 'DOREMUS with Mr. GooD. was taken by tellers on ordering a second. I made the point 1\Ir. EDWARDS with Mr. GRIEST. of order that no quorum was presept. The SPEAKER. A .quorum is. present now. Mr. ESTOPINAL with 1\Ir. GRAHAM of Pennsylvania. Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. The contention is that thtt Mr. Fl'i'ZGERALD with Mr. HAUGEN. vote_on ordering a second should now be taken again. Mr. GOLDFOGLE with Mr. HAWLEY. The SPEAKER. That is exactly what is going to happen if 1\Ir. GoULDEN with Mr. HAYEs. the gentleman will give the Chair a chance to put the question. Mr. HAY with Mr. HOWELL. - Mr. CRISP. Mr. Speaker, if the Chair wi:l indulge me. the Mr. HoWARD with Mr. HuMPHREY of Washington. vote by tellers on ordering a second was no. vote, because imme­ 1\.Ir. HoLLAND with Mr. JOHNSON of Utah. diately upon the announcement of the result of the vote the 1\fr. KEY of Ohio with Mr. JoHNsoN of Washington. point Of order of no quorum was made. Mr. -KITCHIN with Mr. KAHN. The SPEAKER. '£he Chair will ascertain what t_he Re- 1\Ir. LEE of Pennsylvania with Mr. KEISTER. porter's notes show. · · Mr. LESHER with Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, as a matter of fact, after the Yote Mr. LLOYD with Mr. LEWIS of Pennsylvania. was taken by tellers. the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. TRIBBLE] I 1\Ir. DOOLING with Mr. LINDQUIST. did make the point of order of no quorum.· I do not think anyone J 1\Ir. MORGAN of Louisiana with 1\Ir. MANAHAN. understood that that was on the vote by tellers, but if he claims 1\fr. O'SHAUNESSY with Mr. McGUIRE of Oklahoma. it was the vote now would be on ordering a second by tellers. 1\Ir. PATTEN of New York with Mr. MOORE. Mr. TRIBBLE. That was the purpose of my making the point. l\1r. PRICE with Mr. MoRIN. T])e SPEAKER. The Chair will state that the Reporter's 1\Ir. RIORDAN with .Mr. PATTON of Pennsylvania. notes show that the gentleman from Georgia is correct in his ; ' 1\lr. RUCKER with Mr. PROUTY. contention as to when he made the point of order of no quorum. 1\Ir. SABATH . with 1\Ir. ROBERTS of Nevada. Mr. P .ALMER. The point of order of no q_uorum was made, 1\fr. ScULLY with 1\fr. RoBERTs of Massachusetts. and the Chair then counted, and the ·chair determined that n~ l\lr. SisSON with Mr. ScoTT. quorum was present. A motion was then made that the House 1\lr. SPARKMAN with Mr. SELLs. adjourn. That vote was taken by the yeas and nays and the l\fr. TALBOTT of Maryland with Mr. SHREVE. roll disclosed the presence of a quorum. That settles the ques­ 1\fr. TAYLOR of Arkansas with 1\Ir. SLEMP. tion of whether a quorum is present, and the motion to suspend Mr. TAYLOR of Colorado with Mr. TEMPLE. the rules having been seconded by a majority by tellers, there Mr. WALKER w:lth Mr. TREADWAY. is nothing in order now except 40 minutes of debate. Mr. WATSON with .Mr. VARE. Mr. ADAMSON. Mr. Speaker-- Mr. WILLIAMS with l\Ir. WALLIN .. Mr. MANN. Let us take the vote by tellers. Mr. CAREW with .Mr. WINSLOW. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Georgia. Mr. MAHER with Mr. KIESS of Pennsylvania. Mr. ADAMSON. Mr. Speaker, I distinctly remerr:ber the gen­ 1\lr. JoNEs with Mr. KRIEDEB. tleman from Georgia [l\lr. TRmBLE]-- 1\fr. GOODWIN of Arkansas. Mr. Speaker, on a second roll The SPEAKER. There is no question about that. call before my name was reached I voted "nay,'.' thinking the Mr. ADAl\lSON. But in regard to the other matter. The­ Clerk called by name. I may have been mistaken, owing to gentleman asked the question as to what the roll call would be the . great confusion in the Hall. It may have been that the on, whether it would be on tellers or on the motion to adjourn. Clerk called the name of Mr. GoDWIN of North Carolina, which The SPEAKER. It was on the motion to adjourn. sounds very much like my own. . . 1\fr. ADAMSON. Then after the gentleman had made it he The SPEAKER. The Chair will inquire if Mr. GoDWIN of asked the question.· North Carolina voted on this roll call, or if he is here. [After The SPEAKER. Of course you could not vote on a· motion a pause.] Does any gentleman from North Carolina know until after it was made. whether Mr. GoDWIN was in the room or not? · [After a pause.] 1\.Ir. ADAMSON. But when the point of no quorum is The Chair gets no re ponse. There is no question but the settled-- gentleman from Arkansas [Mr. GooDWIN] has voted. The SPEAKER. But there is a quorum here now. The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. Mr. ADAMSON. Of course; but the question is, ought the l\fr. BYRNES of South Carolina. 1\Ir. Speaker, a parlia­ vote by tellers be taken again·? mentary inquiry. The SPEAKER. . What is the statement of the gentleman The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. . from Illinois? · 1\lr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Before the motion to ad-­ Mr. MANN. The gentleman from Georgia claims that he journ was mnde a second w-as· demanded and tellers were or:­ made a point of no quorum on the vote by tellers. I do not dered on the question of ordering a secon~. Upon the an~ think the Speaker so understood-- nouncement of the vote by tellers the yeas and nays were Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. I was watching close1y the ordered on the point of no quorum being made. Does the vote proceedings, and if the Speaker will allow me to state-- now recur on ordering a second?· . 1\Ir 1\f.A1\'N (continuing). If so, the proper thing to have The SPEAKER. No. The motion is to sus~end the rules ~nd done 'would have been to have had the roll call on seconding the pass the bill.· · motion. ·.

3830 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUARY 15 ' Mr. BURKE ·of South Dakota ( (!ontinuing). After the NAYS-45. Speaker put the question, the gentleman from Georgia made Adam on Doughton Lever Stedman the point of no quorum. Aiken Eagle Moon Stephens, Miss. Beall, Tex. Floyd, Ark. Murray Taylor, Ark • .Mr. TRIBBLE. Correct. Bell, Ga. Fordney Norton Tribble 1\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. That is what transpired; and Brockson Goodwin, Ark. O'Hair Vinson then the motion to adjourn was made. Buchanan, Tex. Harrison Oldfield Weaver Byrnes, S. C. Helm Page, 'N. C. Webb Mr. TRIBBLE. Correct. Callaway Hughes, Ga. Park Wingo The SPEAKER. A motion to adjourn takes precedence over Candler, Miss. Humphreys, Miss. Parker, N. J. Witherspoon Caraway Jacoway Rag- dale the other, and the thing to do is to "tOte on whether this matter Crisp Johnson, S.C. Rayburn i seconded or not. The question is on seconding the motion to Dies Kitchin Small uspend the rules. ANSWERED " PRESENT "-3, The question was taken; and the tellers (Ur. PALMER and Flood, Va. Levy Ma.nn Mr. BYRNEs of South Carolina) reported that there were-ayes 140, noes 27. NOT VOTING-163. Ainey Elder Jones Rupley Mr. TRIBBLE and Mr. BYRI\TES of South Carolina. Mr. A vis Estopinal Kahn Sa bath Speaker, I make the point of order of no quorum. Barnhart Faison Keister Saunders ~'he SPEAKER. The Chair will count. Bartholdt Finley Kelley. Mich. Scott Bartlett Fitzgerald Kelly, Pa. Scully ~Ir. RAGSDALE. Mr. Speaker, I move to adjourn. Blackmon Frear Kennedy, R.I. Sells Mr. MANN. I make the point of order that the motion to ad- Booher Gard .Kettner Shreve journ iR dilatory. Borland Gardnet· Kiess, Pa. Sisson Brodbeck George Korbly Slayden Tbe SPEAKER. The Chair thinks it is. Broussard Gerry Kreider Slemp 1\lr. PALl\IER. 1\Ir. Speaker, I mo~e a call of the House. Brown, W.Va. Godwin, N. C. Lee, Ga. Smith, Md. The SPEAKER. The Chair will count to see if a quorum is Brucknet· Goeke Lee, Pa. Sparkman Burgess Goldfogle L'Engle Stanley pre ent. Burke, Pa. Good Lesher Stephens, Nebr. 1\Ir. TRIBBLE. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. Butler Gorman Lewis, Pa. Switzer The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. Calder Goulden Lindquist Talbott, Md. Campbell Graham, Pa. Loft Taylor, Ala. 1\Ir. TRIBBLE. We have just had the Member of the House Cantor Griest Logue · Taylor, Colo, pass through tellers, and the record shows there is no quorum Cantrill Griffin McClellan Taylor, N.Y. present. Carew Gudger McGillicutldy Temple Carlin Hamill McGuire, Okla. TenEyck The SPEAKER. The record does not ·show anything of the Carr Hamilton, N. Y. Mahan Thacher rt. .The record shows that a quorum did not vote. Cary Harris Maher Thomson, Ill. 1\Ir. TRIBBLE. All right. Casey Hart Manahan Townsend Chandlet·, N.Y. llaugen Moore Treadway The SPEAKER. The Chair will count. [After counting.] lark, Fla. Hawley Morgan, La. Tuttle One hundred and eighty-seven Members are present-not a Claypool Bay Morin Underhill quorum. Connelly, Kans. Hayes Nolan, J. I. Underwood I Conry Henry O'Brien Vare 1\Ir. TRIBBLE. 1\Ir. Speaker, moTe to adjourn. opley Hensley Oglesby Walker Mr. PA.Ll\IER and Mr. MAl\TN. Mr. Speaker, I make the point Cramton Hobson O'Shaunes .v Wallin of order that that motion is dilatory. Crosser Holland Patten, N. Y. Walters Dale Howard Patton, Pa. Wat on The SrEAKER. The Chair thinks it is dilatory. The ques­ Danforth Howell Price Whaley tion is on seconding the motion to suspend the rules. The Dent Hoxworth Prouty Whitacre Doorkeeper will lock the doors, the Sergeant at Arms will notify Difenderfer Hughes, W. Ya. Reed Wbite I Donohoe Rulings Riordan Wil on, Fla. ab entee nnd the Clerk will call the roll. Dooling Humph rev, Wash. Roberts, Ma.s. Wil. on, N. Y. The que tion wa taken; and there were-yeas 212, nays 45, Dt"nkker Johnson, Ky. - Roberts, Nev. Winslow \ answered "present" 3, not voting 163, as follows: Dunn Johnson, Utah Rothermel Woodruff [Roll No. 60.] Edwards Johnson, Wash. llucker YEAS-212. So a second \l'as ordered. Abercrombie Doremns Kent Porter The Clerk announced the following additional pairs: Adair Driscoll Key, Ohio Post Until further notice: Alexander Dupre Kindel Pou 1\Ir. CARLIN with Mr. ANTHONY. Allen Eagan Kinkaid Powers .Anderson Edmonds Kirkpatrick Quin Mr. BARNHART with Mr. CHANDLER of New York. .Anthony Esch Know land, J. R. Rainey Mr. LEE of Georgia with Mr. CRAMTON. A hbrook Evans Konop Raker l\lr. BooHER with Mr. LEwrs of Pennsylvania. Aswell Fairchild Lafferty Rauch Austin Falconer La Follette Reilly, Conn~ Mr. BROUSSARD with Mr. SLEMP. Bailey Farr Langham Reilly, Wis. Mr. CoNNELLY of Kansas with Mr. WALLIN. Baker Fergusso·n Langley Rogers 1\Ir. Do.NoHOE with Mr. Goon. Baltz Ferris Lazaro Rouse Barchfeld Fess Len root Rubey Mr. FINLEY with l\lr. JoHNSON of Washington. Bat·kley Fields Lewis, Md. Russell Mr. GARD with l\Ir. KAHN. · Barton F itzHenry Lieb Seldomridge Bathrick Foster Lindbergh Shackleford 1\fr. HENRY with 1\lr. HuGHES of West Virginia. Benkes Fowler Linthicum Sherley Mr. HENSLEY with Mr. WINSLOW. Bell, Cal. Francis Lloyd Sherwood Mr. l\IANN. Mr. Speaker, I ·voted " yea." I am ,paired with Borchers French Lobeck Sims Bowdle Gallagher Lonergan Sinnott the gentleman from Alabama, Mr. u~-nERwoon, but I do not Britten Gallivan McAndrews Sloan think he voted. Therefore I withdraw my vote of "yea" and Brown,N. Y. Garnet· McKellar Smith, Idaho "Vote " present." Browne, Wis. Gan·ett, Tenn. McKenzie Smith, J. M. C. Browning Garrett, Tex. McLaughlin Smith, Minn. The SPEAKER. A quorum is present, and the House ·sec­ Brumbaugh Gill MacDonald Smith, N.Y. onds the motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill. The Bryan "Gillett Madden Smith, Saml. W. Doorkeeper will open the doors. lluchanan, Ill. OiltttOl'C Maguire, Nebr. Smith1 Tex. Bulkley Gittins Mapes Stafford The gentleman from Pennsylvania {l\Ir. PALMER] has 20 min­ Burke, S. Dak. Glass Martin Steenerson utes and the gentleman from South Carolina [Ur. BYRNES] 20 · Burke, Wis. Gordon Metz Stephens, Cal. minutes. Stephens, Tex. Burnett Graham, Ill. Miller 1\Ir. :Byrns, Tenn. Gray Mitchell Stevens, Minn. RAGSDALE. 1\Ir. Speaker-- Carter Green, Iowa Mondell Stevens, N.H. The SPEAKER. For what purpose does the gentleman rise·? Church Greene, Mass. Montague Stone 1\Ir. PALl\IER. Mr. Speaker, I ask that the Chair aclnse Clancy Greene, Vt. Morgan, Okla. Stout me when I have consumed five minutes. line Gregg Morrison Stringer Coady Guernsey Mos , Ind. Sumners Mr. RAGSDALE. Mr. Speaker, on account of the fact that Collier Hamilton, Mich. Moss, W.Va. Sutherland we are to have a caucus to-night, I rise to move to adjourn. onnolly, Iowa Hamlin Mott Taggart The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [1\Ir. Cooper Hardy Mulkey Talcott, N. Y. Cox Hayden Murdock Tavenner PALMER] has the floor. Cullop Heflin Neeley, Kans. Thomas Mr. PALMER. 1\fr. Speaker, I will say to the gentleman Curry Bel~e en Neely, W.Va. Thompson, Okla. Davenport Helvering Nelon Towner from Sout!:l Carolina and other gentlemen that there is no re1.­ Davis Hill Padgett Vaughan son why the consideration of this bill should interfere with the Decker Hinds Paige, Mass. Vollmer caucus to-night. Forty minutes' debate will take us only up to Deitrick Hinebaugh Palmer Volstead De1·shem Hou ton Parker, N. Y. Walsh 20 minutes of 7, and :he bill can be easily pas ed in order to Dickinson Hull Peters Watkins allow the Members to get to the caucus at 8 o'clock. Dillon I~oe Peterson Williams Now, Mr. Speaker, this is a Federal child-labor bill. The bill Dixon Kentlng Phelan Woods Donovan Kennedy, Conn. Platt Young, N. Dak. in its original form is the be~t thought of all of the social work­ Doolittle Kennedy, Iowa Plumley Young, Tex. ers of the_country who ha"Ve given time and attention to this 1915. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE.

Tery important question of child labor. The bill was originany· Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I make the point of order that the drafted by the National Child Labor Committee after a confer­ House has voted down a motion to adjourn since the motion to ence with child-hbor committees of various States. I want to suspend the rules was made, and under paragraph 8 of rule 16, say at the outset that in its present form, though it is changed which reads- somewhat from the original form, it is satisfactory to and has Pending the motion to suspend the rules, the Speaker may entertain one motion that the House adjoru·n; but after the result thereon is the unqualified approval and indorsement of every child-labor announced be shall not entertain any other motion until the vote is association of America, not only the National Child Labor Com­ taken on suspension- mittee but also the various child-labor associations of the dif­ But one motion could be made since the motion was made to ferent Stntes as well. suspend the rules. Now, what the bill does is this: It fixes a standard for child The SPEAKER. Let the gentleman read the rest of that. labor, and prohibits from interstate commerce the product of Mr. RAGSDALE. But, Mr. Speaker-- any mine, or quarry, or any mill, factory, or workshop which is . Mr. lUANN. I have read the entire rule. -produced by children below that standard, and the standard is The SPEAKER. You read the entire rule, but you did not this: Sixteen years in mines and quarries and 14 years in mills, read the decisions on it. factories, workshops, canneries, and manufacturing establish­ Mr. PALMER. The rule is so,plain that there ought not to ments, and provides an eight-hour day, six days a week, and no be any doubt about it. nightwork; that is, there is to be no labor for children between The SPEAKER. Sectioa 5744, volume 5, Hinds' Precedents, the hours of 7 p. m. and 7 a. m. reads: 1\Ir. TRIBBLE. Will the gentleman yield? A motion to suspend the rules having been entertained and one motion Mr. PALMER. For a question. to adjourn having been voted on, another motion to adjourn may not be Mr. TRIBBLE. Suppose a boy 15 years old were gathering made unless the failure of a quorum be demonstrated. peaches in Georgia and those peaches were carried to the can­ Now, the Chair will inquire of the gentleman from Iliinois nery and he had a part in canning them, and those were shipped if that is not the exact situation here? from the State of Georgia? Mr. MANN. No. I think if the point of no quorum is made, Mr. PALMER. He '.70uld not be working in a cannery. _and the Chair decides there is no quorum present, then a motion Mr. TRIBBLE. But suppose he were working in a cannery. to adjourn is in order. Mr. PALMER. If he were working in a cannery and were l\Ir. RAGSDALE. All that took place, Mr. Speaker. under 14 years of age, the product of his labor would be kept 1\Ir. MANN. I did not understand the Speaker to have de- out of interstate commerce. clared that there is no quorum present. 1\Ir. BURNETT. Will the gentleman yield? 1\fr. RAGSDALE. Yes; he did. Mr. PALMER. I will. Mr. MANN. Just now? Mr. BURNETT. There seems to be an impression among 1\Ir. RAGSDALE. Yes. some of my colleagues of the South that this would prevent the Mr. MANN. I was not a ware of it. working of girls in little home canning clubs. There is nothing Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. of that kind, is there? The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. 1\Jr. PALMER. There is nothing of that kind. The kitchen 1\Ir. RUSSELL. Does the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. stove is not a cannery, and a kitchen cannery is not within the PALMER] lose the floor when a point of order is made? purview of this act. Neither does it apply to plantation or The SPEAKER. Until that is disposed of be does; and the farm labor. It must be in the quarries or the mines where the Chair has announced that there is not a quorum present, and limit is 16 years, and in the workshop where the limit is 14 now the gentleman from South Carolina [1\!r. RAGsDALE] mo\eS years. to adjourn. Mr. TRIBBLE. I \?ill ask the gentleman if he would not 1\Ir. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, can a Member take another favor a bill that provided that cotton could not be shipped out Member off the floor by raising a point ot no quorum? of the South if boys 16 years of age were employed who were The SPEAKER. He can on a point of orde:c. raised in the cotton fields instead of going to school? Mr. RUSSELL. If an order is sent out to bring Members in, Mr. PALl\IER. I am discussing this bill. I have said this would not the gentleman from Pennsylvania have the right to · does not apply to production in the cotton fields. There is the floor? nothing new about these standards. The fact is that 15 States The SPEAKER. He would not. The trouble is that the in the Union have adopted the age of 16 years with respect to quorum has disappeared. The gentleman from South Carolina mines and quarries, and 14 States have adopted the standard [Mr. RAGSDALE] raised the point of no quorum, as be bad the age of 14 years in respect to labor in workshops, mills, and fac­ absolute right to do, and after that nothing except one of two tories; 22 States have adopted the standard of forbidding any­ things is in order-a motion to adjourn or a call of the House. thing more than eight hours a day for children, and I think Now, if i:t had turned out on the Speaker's count that there was about an equal number of States have adopted the standard of a quorum here be would not have bad any right to make a forbidding any work on the part of any children. second motion to adjourn, although there is a decision here that Mr. AUSTIN. Would the gentleman include in his remarks a sort of squints that way, but does not decide it clearly. list of those States? Mr. CRISP. Mr. Speaker, a point of order. l\1r. PALMER. Yes; and I will say that the report of the The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. committee, which is very full on this subject, does include the Mr. CRISP. The House having seconded this motion to sus· names of all the States where these standards have been fixed. pend the rules and pass the bill, if the House should adjourn Now, the purpose of this bill is to take this accepted and would not this motion come up as the unfinished business on the generally employed standard-- next day that the suspension of · the rules was in order? The SPEAKER. Tbe gentleman from Pennsylvania bas con­ The SPEAKER. It undoubtedly would. sumed five minutes. 1\Ir. PALMER. That would be four days before the end of 1\fr. RAGSDALE. Mr. Speaker, I -make t],le point that there the session. is no quorum present. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from South Carolina [Mr. Mr. PALl\IER. Just one moment. I have the floor; and to RAGSDALE] moves to adjourn. The question is on agreeing to analyze that standard-- that motion. · 1\fr. RAGSDALE. Mr. Speaker, can not a Member make a The question was taken, and the Speaker announced that point of no quorum at any time? . the ayes seemed to have it. The SPEAKER. For what purpose does the gentleman from Mr. PALMER. A division, Mr. Speaker. South Carolina tise? The House divided; and there were-ayes 45, noes 124. Mr. RAGSD..t\.LE. To make a point of no quorum. 1\Ir. RAGSDALE. l\Ir. Speaker, I demand the yeas and nays. The SPEAKER. The Chair will ascertain by counting. The yeas and nays were ordered. 1\Ir. PALMER. 1\Ir. Speaker, I make the point that that is The question was taken, and there were-yeas 34, nays 184, dilatory. not voting 205, as follows : Mr. RAGSDALE. Why, it is apparent on the face of. it, Mr. [Roll No. 61.] Speaker, that a quorum is not here. YEAS-34. The SPEAKER. The rule about it is that but one motion to Aiken Eagle Jacoway Smith, N.Y. adjourn is in order under a suspension of the rules unless a Bell, Ga. Fergusson Laffel·ty Stephens, Miss. Borchers Floyd, Ark. Lee, Ga. Stephens, Nebr. quorum disappears. The Chair will count. (After counting.) Brock son Goodwin, Ark; Oldfield Vinson One hundred and fifty-one Members are present-not a quorum. Byrnes, S. C. Gregg Page, N.C. Webb Mr. RAGSDALE. Mr. Speaker, I move that we do now Callaway Hardy Park . Whaley Candler, Miss. Harrison Ragsdale Wingo adjourn. Caraway Helm Rothermel Mr. PALMER. I move a call of the House, Mr. Speaker. Dies Hughes, Ga. Small 3832 " CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. FEBRUARY 15,

NAYS-184. Mr. Hou·sTON with Mr. LANGHAM, Abercrombie Dillon Kent Porter :Mr. HULL with Mr. MADDEN. Adair Dixon Key, Ohio Powers Alexander Donovan Kinkaid Quln 1\fr. JoHNSON of South Carolina with l\Ir. STEENERSON. Allen Doolittle Kirkpatrick Hainey 1\Ir. LEVER with l\!r. SUTHERLAND. Andersoa Doremus Kitchin Raker 1\Ir. LOBECK with 1\fr. DRUKKP.B. Anthony Driscoll Knowland, J. R. Rauch Asbbrook­ Eagan Konop Reilly, Conn. Mr~ MOON with Mr. HAYES. Aswell Edmonds La Follette Reilly, Wis. 1\fr. MONTAGUE with 1\!r. LEWIS of Pennsyl\"ania. Austin E ch Langley Rogers Mr. l\foRRISON with Mr. MoRIN. Bailey l!'alconer Lazaro Rouse Baker Far-r Lenroot Rubey Mr. Pou with 1\Ir. WOODRUFF. Baltz Ferris Lewis, Md. Russell 1\fr. SLAYDEN with 1\Ir. WINSLOW. Barcbfeld tress Lieb Seldomridge Mr. SAUNDERS with Mr. J. I. NOLAN. Barldey Field Lindbergh Shackleford Barton FitzHenry Linthicu!!l Sherley .iUr. UNDERWOOD with Mr. KAHN. Bathrick l!'lood, Va. Lloyd Sherwood Mr. KINDEL. Mr. Speaker, I should like to vote. Beakcs Foster Lonergan Sims The SPEAKER. Was the gentleman in the Hall, li tening, Bell Cal. Fowler McAndrews Sinnott Britten French McKellar Slo::m when his name should have been called? Brown, N.Y. Gallagher McKenzie Smith, Idaho Mr. Kli~DEL ~ No; I was not. Browne, Wis. Gallivan McLaughlin Smith, J. M. C. Browning Garner MacDonald Smith, Minn. The SPEAKER. Then the gentleman can not T"ote. Bryan Garrett, Tex. Maguire, Nebr. Smith, Saml. W. The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. Buchanan, Ill. Gill Mann Smith, Tex. The SPEAKER. A quorum is present. Buchanan, Tex. Gillett Mapes Stafi'ord Bulkley Gilmore Martin Stephens, Cal. Mr. RAGSDALE. 1\!r. Speaker, how many Members voted? Burke, S. Dak. Glass Metz Stephens, Tex. The SPEAKER. Two hundred and seventeen Members voted, Burke, Wis. Gordon Miller Stevens, Minn. and it takes only 213 to make a quorum now. , There are 11 Bumett Graham, Ill. Mondell Stevens, N.H. vacancies. Byrns, Tenn. Gray l\Ior·gan, Okla. Stone Carlin Greene, Mass. Moss, Ind. Stringer 1\fr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I will ask the gentleman from Carter Greene, Vt. Moss, W. Va. Sumner·s South Carolina [1\!r. BYRNES] to use his time. Clancy Guernsey Mulkey Talcott, N. Y. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from South Carolina [Mr. Cline Hamilton, Mich. Murdock Tavenner. ' Coady Hamlin Nelson Taylor, Ark. BYRNES] is recognized for 20 minutes. . Collier Heflin Norton Thomas Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I am not op· Connolly, Iowa Helgesen Padgett Thompson, Okla. posed to the prohibition of child labor by the States of the Cooper Hill Paige, Mass. Towner Cox Hinds Palmer Vaughan Union, but I am opposed to the Federal Goyerrunent under the Cramton Hinebaugh Parker, N.J. Volstead pretense of regulating interstate commerce usurping the powers Crisp Hu-::1 phreys, Miss. Parker, N.Y. Walsh of the State and fixing the hours of labor for its citizens. The Cullop I~oe Patton, Pa. Watkins Curry Keating Peters Whitacre Legislature of the State of South Carolina at this session is· Davenport Keister Phelan Williams considering a bill seeking to raise the age for child labor from Decker Kennedy, Conn. Platt Woods Dershem Kennedy, Iowa Plumley Young, N. Dak. 12 to 14 years. Notwithstanding any view I might hold a.s to the age which children should be forbidden to work in the State NOT VOTING-205. of South Carolina, or any view you might bold, I think it is Adamson Fairchild Kelley, Mich. Roberts, Nev.. Ainey Faison Kelly, Pa. Rucker the right of that State and not that of the Federal Government Avis Finley Kennedy, R.I. Rupley to say at what age a child should be prohibited from working Barnhart Fitzgerald Kettner Sabath in a factory, cannery, or workshop within the State of South Bartholdt Fordney • Kiess, Pa. Saundet'S is Bartlett lf'rancis Kindel Scott Carolina. Step by step an effort being made to substitute the B.eall, Tex:. Frear Korbly Scully power of the Federal Government for that of the State. Undct' Blackmon Gard Kreider Sells the guise of regulating interstate commerce we now seck to Booher Gardner Lan~am Shreve Borland . Garrett, Tenn. Lee, l'a. Sisson enact the laws fixing the hours during which citizens of tllo Bowdle George L'Engle Slayden various States may work. Brodbeck Gerry Lesher Slemp My friend from Pennsylvania [1\Ir. PALMER] !:Says that this Broussard Gittins Lever Smith, Md. Brown, W. Va. Godwin, N. C. Levy Sparkman bill does not prohjbit one working in a cannery on a farm. It Bruckner Goeke Lewis, Pa. Stanley prohibits the shipment jn interstate commerce of the products Brumbaugh Goldfogle Lindquist Stedman \ of any mill, cannery, workshop, factory, and so forth, manu­ Burgess Good Lobeck Steenerson Bur·ke, Pa. Gorman Loft Stout factured or produced, in whole or in part, by a child under the Butler Goulden Logue Sutherland age of 14. What is a cannery if it be not a place where fruit Calder Graham, Pa. McClellan Switzer and vegetables are canned? !low many cans must be put up to Campbell Green, Iowa McGillicuddy Taggart Cantor Griest McGuire, Okla. Talbott, Md. bring a cannery within the provision of the law? What shall Cantrill Griffin Madden Taylor, AlaJ constitute a cannery? From the orchard peaches are brought Cn.rew Gudger Mahan Taylor, Colo. into the home of the farmer, and there he and his children and Carr Hamill Maher Taylor, N. Y. Cary Hamilton, N. Y. Manahan Temple the children of his neighbors, 13 years old-under the age of Casey Harris Mitchell TenEyck 14-can the peaches. Are these canned peaches to be denied Chandler, N. Y. Hart Montague Thacher the right of interstate commerce? As far as the cotton mills Church Haugen Moon Thomson, Ill:. Clark, Fla. Hawley Moore Townse::td are concerned, does this prohibition refer only to the labor Claypool Hay Morgan, La. Treadway in the cotton mills, or does it refer to those who contribute in Connelly, .Kans. IIayden Morin Tribble part to the production of the cotton that is manufacured in the Conry Hayes • Morrison Tuttle Copley Helvering Mott Underhill cotton mill? Who is to say what construction will be placed Crosser Henry Murray Underwood upon the bill by the inspectors and thereafter by the courts Dale Hensley NeeleyJCans. Vare who shall pa.::;s upon it? Danforth Hob!':on Neely, w. Va. Vollmer Davis Holland Nolan, J. I. Walket· No matter whether or not you gentlemen from South Caro­ Deitrick Houston O'Brien Wallin lina, Georgia, North Carolina, and other States of the Union Dent Howard Oglesby Walters favor the prohibition of child labor, I ask, are you willing to Dickinson Howell O'Hair Watson Difenderfer Hoxworth O'Sbaunessy Weaver surrender the right of your respective States to enact those laws Donohoe Hughes, W. Va. Patten, N.Y. White in accord with your own views on the subject? Dooling Hulings Peterson Wilson, Fla. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [l\1r. PALMER] says that Doughton llull Post Wilson, N.Y. Drukker Humphrey, Wash. Pou Winslow there are 16 or 17 States that have laws prohibiting the labor of Dunn John on, Ky. Price Witherspoon children under 14 years of age. If this be so, then why insist Dupre Johnson, S.C. Prouty Woodruff Edwards John on, Utah Rayburn Young, Tex. on this legislation? Conditions differ in different States of the Elder Johnson, Wash. ~ed Union. No demand has been shown for this legi lation. You E to pinal Jones Riordan have not heard from your constituents any demand for this leg­ Evans Kahn Roberts, Mass. islation. Under the pretense of regulating interstate commerce So the House refused to adjourn. we are to take from the States the power of controlling the The Clerk announced the following additional pairs: hours of labor and place it under the control of the Federal Until further notice : Government. I ask my colleagues on this side of the House to :Mr. ADAMSON with Mr. BAE!'HOLDT. vote against the bill. · Mr. DICKINSON with Mr. BARTON. Mr. PALMER. 1\Ir. Speaker, I ask for a vote. 1\Ir. DOUGHTON with Mr. DAVIS. 1\Ir. RAGSDALE. Mr. Speaker, I make the point that no 1\Ir. DUPRE with Mr. FAIRCHILD. quorum is present. 1\Ir. EVANS with l\fr. FoRD~~Y. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from South Carolina makes 1\Ir. HAYDEN with Mr. GREEN of Iowa. the point of no quorum, and there is no quorum present. I I 1915. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. I Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. 1\Ir. Speaker, I move that Evans Hobson Moore Stout Fairchild Holland Morgan, La. Stringer tlle IIouse adjourn. Faison Howell Morin Sutherland Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to Fields Hoxworth Morr·ison Switzer address the House for one minute. Fitzgerald Hughes, W. Va. Murray Taggart Fordney Hulings Neeley, Kans. Talbott, Md. Mr. 1\!AJ.~N. The House can not give unanimous consent when Foster Hull Neely, W. Va. Talcott, N.Y. there is no quorum present. Francis Humphrey, Wash. O'Brien Taylor, Ala. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from South Carolina moves Frear Johnson, Ky. Oglesby. Taylor, Ark. Gard Johnson, S.C. O'Shaunessy Taylor, Colo. that the House adjourn. . Gardner Johnson, Utah Patten, N.Y. Taylor, N.Y. The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by Mr. George Johnson, Wash. Peters Temple RAGSDALE) there were 13 ayes and 97 noes. Gerry Jones Platt '.fen Eyck Gittins Kahn Plumley '.fhacher Mr. RAGSDALE. I make the point of order that no quorum Glass Kelley, Mich. Post Thomson, Ill. is present. GodwiniN. C. Kelly, Pa. Pou Towner Goldfog e Kennedy, R. I. Price Townsend The SPEAKER. The Chair has already announced that no Good Kettner Prouty Treadway quorum is present. Gorman Kless, Pa. Rainey Tribble l\fr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I .move a call of the House. Goulden Kindel Rayburn Tuttle Graham, Pa. Kitchin Reed Underhill The motion was agreed to~ Green, Iowa Korbly Riordan Underwood The Clerk called the roll. Griest Kreider Roberts, Mass. Vare The SPEAKER. One hundred and eighty-six Members have Griffin Langham Roberts, Nev. Vollmer Gudger Langley Rupley Walker answered to their names; not a quorum. Guernsey L'Engle Sabath Wallin · Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now Hamill Lesher Saunders Walters adjourn. Hamilton, N.Y. Lewis Pa. Scott Watson Harris Linthicum1 Scully Weaver The SPEAKER. The question is on the motion of the gentle- Hart Loft Sells Whaley man from Pennsylvania that the House do now adjourn. Hauffen McClellan Shreve Whitacre The question was taken. · Hawtey McGillicuddy Sisson White Hay McGuire, Okla. Slayden Wilson, Fla. Mr. MANN. l\fr. Speaker, I demand the yeas and nays. Hayes Madden Slemp Wilson, N. Y. The yeas and nays were order~ Helgesen Mahan Smith, M:d. Winslow Helvering Maher Smith, Saml. W. Witherspoon The question was taken; and there were-yeas 93, nays 114, Henry Manahan Sparkman Woodruff answered " present" 1, not voting 216, as follows: Hensley Martin Stafford Woods Hill Montague Stanley Young, Tex. [Roll No. 62.] Hinds Moon Steenerson The Speaker YEAS-93. Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I voted " No." I. am paired with Abercrombie Cox Hughes, Ga. Rouse Adamson Crisp Igoe Rubey the gentleman from Alabama [l\fr. UNDERWOOD]. I desire to Alexander Cullop· Jacoway Rucker withdraw that vote and answer "present." Ashbrook Dershem Key, Ohio Russell Aswell Dickinson Klrkpatrlck Sherley The name of Mr. MANN was called, and he answered "Pres- Baker Doremus Lafferty Sherwood ent." Bailey Daughton Lazaro Sims The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. Baltz Dupre Lee, G~ Small Barkley Eagan Lee, Pa. Smith, N.Y. The SPEAKER. A quorum is not present. Bell, Ga. Eagle Lever Smith, Tex. Mr. MANN. May I ask what was the announcement of the Blackmon Fergusson Levy Stedman Chair? Booher Ferris Lewis, Md. Stephens, Miss. Borchers Finley Lloyd Stephens, Nebr. The SPEAKER. Yeas 92, nays 113, present 1. ( Bowdle Flood, V~ Lobeck Stephens, Tex. Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker,· I move a call of the House. Brockson Floyd, Ark. Mulkey Sumners The SPEAKER. We are operating under a call of the House. Brown, N.Y. Goodwin, Ark. O'Hair Vaughan Brumbaugh Gordon Oldfield Vinson .Mr. MANN. No. A call of the House was ordered and then Buchanan. Tex. Hamlin Padgett Watkins the gentleman from Pennsylvania moved to adjourn. Byrnes, S. C. Hard~ Pafe,N. C. Webb Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, I made a motion to adjourn Church Harr son Pamer Williams Clancy Hayden Park Wingo which has been voted down. If the House does not want to Coady Heflin Quin adjourn, we will get the Members and do business, and I move Collier Helm Ragsdale a call of the House. The roll call was on the motion to adjourn. /) Connelly, Kans. Houston Rothermel NAY8-114. Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, a motion was made and carried Adair FitzHenry La Follette Patton, Pa. awhile ago for a call of the House. . Allen Fowler Lenroot Peterson The SPEAKER. The Chair does not undetstand the gentle­ Austin French Lieb Phelan Barchfeld Gallagher Lindbergh Porter man. Barton Gallivan Lindquist Powers Mr. MANN. Was there not a motion for a call of the IIouse Bathrick Garner Logue Raker awhile ago that prevailed? · Beakes Garrett, Tenn. Lonergan Rauch Bell, Cal. Garrett, Tex. McAndrews Reilly, Conn. The SPEAKER. Yes; they had a call of the House, but the Browne, Wls. Gill McKellar Reilly, Wis. business under the call of the House has never been dispensed Browning Gillett McKenzie Rogers with. In the first place, the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Bryan Gilmore McLaughlin Seldomridge Buchanan, Ill Goeke MacDonald Shackleford l\iANrr] moved a call of the House; we had a call of the House Burnett Graham, Ill. M:aguh·e, Nebr. Sinnott and failed.to develop a quorum. Byrns, Tenn. Gray Mapes Sloan 1\fr. MANN. Which was in progress and never has been dis- Carlin Greene, Mass. Metz Smith, Idaho Cline Greene, Vt. :Miller Smith, J. M. C. pensed with. Cooper Greger Mitchell Smith, Minn. The SPEAKER. That is what I say. Cramton Hamfiton, Mich. Mandell Stephens, Cal. Mr. MANN. It is in progress. Curry Hinebaugh Morgan, Okla. Stevens, Minn. Decker Howard Moss, Ind. Stevens, N. H. The S:I;!EAKER. It is still a part and parcel of the call of the Dillon Humphreys, Miss. Moss, W.Va. Stone House. If the gentleman wants to make a motion to send out Dixon Keating Mott Tavenner and have the Members arrested, the Chair will entertain it very Donohoe Keister Murdock Thomas Driscoll Kennedy, Conn. Nelson Thompson, Okla. suddenly. Edmonds Kennedy, Iowa Nolan, J. I. Volstead Mr. PALMER. I make the motion, Mr. Speaker. Esch Kent Norton Walsh The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [l\Ir. Falconer Kinkaid Paige, Mass. Young, N. Dak. Farr Knowland, J. R. Parker, N. J. PALMER] moves that writs be issued for the absent Members, Fess Konop Parker, N.Y. and that they be brought in. . ANSWERED " PRESENT "-1. The question was taken, and the motion was agreed to. Mann 1\Ir. 1\IDRDOCK. Mr. Speaker, how does a man vote when NOT VOTING-216. he comes in? Aiken Bruckner Carew Davenport The SPEAKER. He votes "present" on this vote. The Ainey Bulkley Carr Davis gentlemen who want to vote now. who have come in since that Anderson Burgess carter Deitrick vote on ordering the call of the House-that is, trying to get a Anthony Bmke, Pa. Cary Dent quorum-will Avis Burke, S.Dak. Casey Dies answer "present." Barnhart Bui'ke, Wis. Chandle1·, N.Y. Difenderfer Mr. MANN. I would like to inquire whether the tally clerk Bartholdt Butler Clark, Fla. Donovan has the tally on the motion to adjourn or on the call of the Bartlett Calder Claypool Do.oling Beall, Tex. Callaway Connolly, Iowa Doolittle House? Borland camceben Conry Drukker The SPEAKER. He ought to ha >e the one on the call of the Britten Can ler, l'tfiss. Copley Dunn House. Brodbeck Cantor Crosser Edwards Broussard Can trill Dale Elder l\fr. MANN. I know what he ought to have, but I think he Brown, W. Va. Caraway Danforth Estopinal has the other. .·

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Mr. STOUT. .Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary·inquiry. Harl'is Korbly Oglesby Switzer· \ Harrison Kreider O'Shaunessy Taylor, Ala. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. Harl Langham Page, N. C. Taylor, Colo. 1\Ir. STOUT. On a motion to adjourn I voted "nay." Haugen Langley Patten, N. Y, Taylor. N. Y: The SPEAKER. It does not make any difference about the Hawley Lee, Ga. Platt 'l'cmple Hayes L'Engle Plumley Ten Eyck motion to adjourn. This motion is on the call of the House to Helvering Lesllet· Post 'l'hacher get a quorum. It is a call of the House. Did the gentleman Henry Lewis, Pn. Pou Thomson, Ill. YOte on that or not 't Hensley Lindquist Price Townsend Hobson Linthicum Prouty Treadway Mr. STOUT. I voted on the call of the House. Howell Loft Reed Tuttle The SPEAKER. Then the gentleman does not want to vote HoA.-worth McClellan Riordan nderhitl on it again. Hughes, W.Va. McGillicuddy Hoberts, 1\lass. Underwood Huliog Mcnuire, Okla. Rober·ts, Nev. Vare Mr. STOUT. There was a motion to adjourn in the mean- llutl Madden Rupley Vinson time. . Humphrey, Wash. l\faLlan Sabath Walker 1\Ir. 1\IANN. Mr. Speaker I_ mofe that the· roll be called Humphreys, Miss. Maher Saunders Wallin Johnson, Utah Manahan Scott Walters again for those who did not answer· on the can of the House to Johnson, Wash. Montag113 Scully Watson Yote "present." Jone Moon ~ells Weaver The SPEAKER. The Clerk will call the roll. Kahn Moore Shreve Whaley Kelley, Mich. Morgan, La. Sisson Whitacre 1\Ir. LOGUE. A parliamentary inquiry, 1\Ir. Speaker. Kelly, Pa. !\Iorin Slemp White The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. Kennedy, n. I. Mori'iSO:l Smith, Saml. w. Wilson, Fla. l\1r. LOGUE. Is it in order now, under the recent motion to Kettner Neeley. Kans. Soarkman Wilson,.·. Y. Kiess, Pa. Neely, W. Va. Stanley Winslow adjourn, to change one's vote? Kindel Nolan, J. I. Steenerson Wood;:uff The SPEAKER. That question has been settled. It is too · Kitchin O'Brien Sutherland late. The gentleman froru Illinois [1\II·. MANN] asks unani­ The SPEAKER. On this call 245 Members, a quorum, h:1ve mous consent that the names of those who failed to vote on the answered. , caJJ of the House shall now be called by the =clerk. Is there .Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I move to dispense w1tb furt}?er objection? · proceedings. i\Ir. MURDOCK. A parliamentary- inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Mr. PALMER I move, 1\fr. Speaker, to dispense with fort'ber The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. proceedings under the call. \ l\11'. MURDOCK. Will not tllat leave one roll call in the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [hlt·. midst of the two halves of the other roll call? PALMER] moves to dispense with furtller proceedings under the Mr. MANN. Not at all. The motion to adjourn is out of call. The question is on agreeing to tllat motion. I'Oll the way, and that call is ended. The question was taken, and the Speaker announced that tb~ Tbe SPEAKER. The question of adjonming on the roll <;all ayes seemed to have it. . . . bas been settled. The House refu ed to adjourn; and what Mr. BYRNES of South Carolin::t. I ask for a dn·tswn, Mr. the gentleman froru Illinois [l\Ir. MANN] wishes is to have t'lle Speaker. names of those who failed to vote on the call of the House called The SPEAKER. A division is demanded. now because it is easier to do that than it is to find out how 'I'he Honse divided; and there were-ayes 132, noes 10. thes~ men want to Yote. 1\Ir. TRIBBLE. Mr. Speaker, I call for tellers. 1\Ir. MURDOCK. Will not tbat result in a complete roll call The SPEAKER. Tellers are demanded. Those in fn ''OI' of being found in the.llECORD in the midst -of two halves? taking this vote by tellers will rise and stand until .they nre Tbe SPEAKER. The Chair understands, but you can do counted. (After counting.] Three gentlemen llave nseu-not anything on earth by unanimous consent. ' a sufficient number. Mr. BUCHANAN of Illinois. I call for the regular order, ML'. 1\fe. RAGSDALE. 1\lr. Speaker, on that I demand the yens Spenker. and nays. · 'l'be SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gen- Tbe SPEAKER. The gentleman from South Cnrolina [l\1L': tleman from Illinois [.Mr. 1\IANN]? . RAGSDALE] demands the yeas and nays. Those in fm·or of tn k.:. Mr. BUCHANAN of Illinois. 1\Il-. Speaker, I object. ing the vote by yeas and nays will ri e an,d stuud unti~ they .Mr. PALMER. I make tlie motion. are counted. [After counting.] Three gentlemen have t·•sen• 1\lr. MANN. Tbe Manual says you can. Although t'bere may not a sufficient number. The yeas and nays are refused. 'l'he not be a quorum present, they may order a roll call again on ayes have it, and the motion to dispense with furth_er proceed­ the caJl of the House at any time. ings under the call is agreed to. The Doorkeeper w1ll open lli~ The SPEAKER There is no trouble about it, if tbe gentle­ doors.· men who did not vote on the roll call will come forward and l\Ir. PALMER 1\!r. Speaker, I am entitled to the floot· to sepa t'n te thcmse11es from those who are standing around there debate the bill, am I not? and did vote. · The SPEAKER. Yes. M1·. 1\fANN. I will call the attention of the Speaker to the Mr. PALMER 1\h·. Speaker, though time is precious, .I want Manual, page 330, section 752, which says: to take a couple of minutes to explain-- Bnt during proceedings under tllc call-- The SPEAKER Did the gentleman from- South Carolina The SPEAKER. Where is the gentleman reading? _ . [1\fr. BYRNES] reserve his time or not? Mr. :\.iANN. From the next puragr·apb from the bottom, page 1\:Ir. BYRNES of South Carolina. A point of no guorum was 330. I read: made. But dUI'ing proceedings under· the call tile roll may be ordered to be 1\IL·. MANN; lie does not have to, .Mr. Speaker, under the called again by those present. . rules. The SPEAKER. Well, the motion of the gentleman from The SPEAKER. The Chair knows; but .the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. PALMER], then, is in order, to have this roll Pennsylv-ania· [Mr. PALMER] l;las the right to close if be wants calleu for the absentees. Those :n favor of the motion wHl say to. Does the gentle~an _ from South Carolina [1\11'. BYRNES] de­ "aye"; those opposed will say "no." · sit·e to use his time? The question was taken, and the motion was agreed to. 1\Ir. BYRNES of South Carolina. I desire to use my time. I The SPEAKER. The Clerk will call the absentees on that t·eservecl it. . _ . roll call. The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Pennsylvania The Clerk again called the roll, and the fo1lo~ing Members want to speak first? failed to answer to their names: Mr. PALMER. Ye . I want to speak now. [Roll No. G3.] The SPEAKER. The gentleman · will proceed. Aiken Butler Danforth Gard Mr. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, it goes without saying, of course. Aincy Calder· Davis. Gardner tlla t I am very anxious to pass this bill. The Committee on Allen Campbell Dent Gerry Labor, which reported it unanimously, is anxious to pass it. Anderson Candler, Miss. Di fender fer Gittins Anthony Cantor Dooling Glass It is in tlle platforms of all the political parties. The Repub­ Avis Cantl'ill Drukkc r· Godwin, N. C. lican Party, and the Progressive Party, .an~ the De~ocr~tiq Bailey urew Dunn Goldfog!e Rarnhart C'arr Edwards Good Pat·ty, and the Nation have declared for tl.l1s lnnd of legtslntlou. llartholdt Cary Elder Gorman The country is for it, as it is for very few things in either Rlackmon Chandler, N.Y. Evans Goulden branch of Congress to-day. [Applause.] Borland Clark, Fla. Fairchlld Graham, Pa. Brodbeck Claypool Faison Gr·een, Iowa A little while ago I made a motion to adjourn, for this rea­ Broussard Collier Ferris Griest son: That a caucus of the Democratic Party has been called to Brown, W. Va. Conry Fields Griffin meet in th·e Hall of the House here at 8 o'clock to-night to con­ Bruckner Copley Fordney Gudger Burgess Cro ser Francis Hamill sidet· important proposed legislation, and in order that that Burke, Pa. Dale Frear Hamilton, N. Y. caucus might meet on time and in order that I might not be ; 1915. CONGRESSIONAL·. REOOR~ROUSE. / I 1 responsible-for interfering with it I made the motion to adjourn. ; 1.\lr. RAGSDALE. A-nd ..it being -shown affirmatively once The House voted down thilt motion, and is of a temper to do .that ther.e was no quorum present the motion to adjourn now ·is business, and therefore I thiQ.k we might well postpone our . in order. caucus for a couple of hours in order to put this bill through The SPEAKER pro tempore (.~lr. FITZGERALD). 'The ·Chair the House. .[Applause on the Democratic side.] And ther:~o~e. 1 has before him the notes of the Journal Clerk. Mr. Speaker, I want to say that the caucus, which ·was called 1 Mr. RAGSDALE demanded the yeas and nays, which were ordered. for 8 o'clock will be deferred for a little while and if the The roll was .called, and the yeas were 34 and nays 183, and so l\Iembers on fuis side who want to stand by party' pledges and 1 .the motion .to adJourn was not agreed to...... by the little children of the Nation will stand by for just a few There 'Yere 217 Members present. T~e Ohall' 1s mform~d that minutes we will pass this bill through the House and hold our , 213 constitute~ quorum as the Hou.se 1s ·at pres~t con~tltuted. caucus and pass our ship-purchase bill also to-night. [Applause ' Mr. RAGSDALE. Mr. ·Speaker, smce that periOd· of tlme the on tbe Democratic side.] . ! gent~man ·from 'Pennsylvania '[Mr. PALMER] moved 'to adjourn, I ask the gentleman from ·South carolina .[Mr. BYRNES] to , and 1t developed that tJ;lere \Vas no quorum, and then the gentle- use some of his time. · man from Pennsylvama demanded a call of the House, ~ The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. 'FITzGER.Ar.D). The -gentle- there~fter a quorum was developed, but at the time the motion man from South Carolina [Mr. BYRNES] is recognized. . to adJourn yras made there was no ·quorum. The 9.~orum llas Mr. BELL of Georgia. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House develope.d su:~ce ~he. call of the House, and therefore I contend do now adjourn. that Lny motion 1s m order. . Mr. MANN. I make the point of order that that is a dilatory !!'he SPEAKER pro tempore. Since the motion to suspend the ruotion. ~ules was submitted to the House, a _motion was made to ad- Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Why is it dilatory? A :Journ, and·on ~a_t motio~ the ·yeas and nays were ordered ~d speech has been made. ·the ·House refusea to adJourn with a quorum present, a~ dis- M:r. BELL of Georgia. I insist on my motion. . clos~ ·by the roll :call. .Unde1· the r?le, a mdtion to adJourn Mr. MANN. I withdraw the point of order. havmg. been subm1tted smce. ~e motiOn to suspend the rul~s Mr. PALMER. I make the :point of order that that is. dila- ~as pr~s~nted to the House,_ w1th a quorum _present, ~e cp.arr tory. We have just had a roll call upon which a quornm-was 1s ·prohibited from entertaining another mobon to adJourn un­ developed. ' · til the vote is taken on t}l.e suspension, and the '}loint of order Mr. RAGSDALE. A point of order, Mr. Speaker. It has being made :ag!linst the. gentleman's motion, the 10hair is com- been at least .llalf an hom· since the motion to adjourn was pelle? !o sust~un the pomt of order. . . . made. . 1.\Ir. :J:URDOCK. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary mqmry. The ·SPEAKER pro tempore. .The present occupant of the The SPEAKER.pro tempor~. The gentleman will state it. .

chair is not prepared to hold -that .this motion is dilatory, as I' Mr. AfURI?OI •.ra:.rgnrt more con<:ern to this country than auy otller form of labor. Kit·kpatrick Mitchell Ronse Talbott. Md. HOUR OF l\fEETINO TO-MORROW. Knowland, J. R. l.Iondell Rubey 'l'alcott, N. Y. Konop .Morgan, Okla. Ruckel' TU\'('nner .Mr. UNDERWOOD. l\1r. Speaker, I ask the gentleman from Korbly l\Joss, Ind. Russell Taylor. Ark. Pennsylvania to yield to me in order that I might make a re­ Lafferty Mo s, W. Ya. Seldomridge Thom:ts La Follette .Mott fihaeklefoi·d 'l"hompson, Okla quest for unanimous consent. LUZIII'O Murdock Sherl':!y 'l'owner 1\lr. PALMER. I yield to the gentleman for that punlOse. Lee, Pa. Nelson Sbet·wood Townsend Mr.- UNDERWOOD. l\1r. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent Lent·oot Not·ton Sims Underwood Lesher· Oldfield Sinnott Vaughan that wllen the House adjourns to-day it ndjourn to meet at 11 Lewis, ld. Padgett Slemp Vollmer o'clock to-morrow. Lieb Pai~e.l\lass. Sloan Yol!';tead The SPEAKEll pro tempore. The uentleman from Alabama Lindbei·gb Pal me·: Smith, Id,:lho Walsh Lindquist P:nkC'I', N.Y. SmitlJ, .T. l\I. C. \Yalklns asks unanimous consent that wllen the.House ndjourns to-day Linthicum Patte>n, N. Y. Smith, !Hd. Whitacre it adjourn to meet at 11 o'clock to-monow. Is there objection? .Lloyd Patton, Pa. Smith, Minn. Williams l\lr. l\IURDOCK. l\fr. Speaker, re erving the right to object, Lobecl' Peters Smith, N.Y. Wingo Logue Pete1·son Smith, Tex. Woods will the gentleman inform us if the S}lecial rule for the con­ LOU<'l'::ran Phelan Stafford Yunng, N. Dak. sideration of the shipping bill is to come in to-morrow? Me.\ od1·ews Porter · Stephens. Cal. Young, Tex. Mr. UNDERWOOD. I am not sure about ·that, but if it does McKellar Post fiteph<'ns, Nebr. lcKenzie Powers Stephens. •rex. not there will be an appropriation bill undet· consideration, as .McLaughlin Quin St!.'vens, Minn. well as other business, which we !Jetter dispose of one way or the othet· as soon as we can, !Jecause if we expect to avoW NAYS-43. Adamson Dent Lee, Ga. Rlayden an extra session we better be at work. Aiken Dies Lever Small 1\Ir. .MURDOCK. Does the gentleman expect the shipping Bartlett Donghton Mnlkley Stedman bill to come in? Reali, 'l'ex. Finley O'Hair Stetlhens, ?!~iss . l\lr. UNDERWOOD. I can not answer that question now;: I Bell, Ga. llat·dy Page, N.C. Tt·ibble Blackmon Hurl'ison Park Vinson am not prepared to answet· it. Brock son Helm , Parlier, N.J. Watson The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the re­ Callaway Holland Pou Weaver (;andler, 1\Jiss. fiugbes, Ga. Ragsdale Webb quest of the gentleman from Alabama? [After a pause.] The Cla!·k, lt'la. Humphreys, Aliss. Rayburn Witherspoon Chair bears 0:one. Crisp Kitchin Sisson ClliLD LABOR. ANSWERED "PRESENT ''-2, . 1\Ir. BYRNES of South Caro.lina. :Mr. Speaker, I do not care Byrnes, S. ·c. Saunders · to use any more of the time allotted to me. [Applause.] · l\Ir. PALMER. Mr. Speaker, while I have time remaining, NOT VOTING-145. owing to the lateness of the llour I , ball not use any further Ainey Fordncy I~ie ss, Pa. Roberts, Nev. Anderson Frea L' Kindel Rogers time,· and I ask for a vote. [Applau e.] .Anthony Gard Kreider Rupi<'Y The SPEAKER pro tempore. Tile question is, Shall the l'llles Avi Gardner Langham Sa bath 11 Bar·nhart Gerry Langley Scott be su peuded and the bi passed? Bartboldt · Gillett L'Engle Scully 1\fr. l\IANN. Mr. Speaker, on tllat I ask for the yeas nnd Bl'itten Godwin, N. C. Levy -sells nays. Br·odbeck Goldfogle Lewis, Pa. Shreve Broussard Good Loft Smith, Saml. W. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Those in favor of ordering the Brown, W. Va. Go1·man l\1cClcllan Spnrkman 1. yeas and nays will rise and stand unti I counted. Evidently . a B('.l.lCimer · Goulden McGillicuddy Stnoley ' sufficient number, and the yeas·ancl nays at·e ordered. Burgess Graham, Pa. McGuire, Ok.la. Stet>nerson Bmlce, Pa. Greou, iowa Madden Sutherland Mr. RAGSDALE. Mr. Speaker, I make the 11oint of order Butler Gt·ie>st Maguire, Nebr. Switzer there is no quorum present. · Calder Griffin Mahan Taylor, Ala. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The yeas and nays have been ~ampbell Hamill Maher Taylor, ~olo. ordered. Cantor Hamilton, N.Y. Manah:i.n 'l'aylor, J . Y. Cantrill Hamlin l\fonta~ue Temp\e 1\Ir. RAGSDALE. But I made the point of ordel' of no quo­ Carew Hart Moon TenEyck rum present, nnd the roll hns not yet beuun. Can· Haugen l\Joore Thacher Cary Hawley MMgan, La. 'rllomson, Ill. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Cllllir will count and will Chandler, N.Y. Hayes Alorin Treadway asl\: gentlemen not to move, so t11ere will be no confusion. Claypool Hensley Morrison 'l'uttlc [After counting.] Two hundred nnd twenty-one gentlemen are Conry Hobson l\furray Underbill present, a quorum-- Copley Ho~ell Neeley, Kans. Yat·e Crosser Hoxworth Neely, W. Va. Walker M•·. RAGSDALE. 1\fr. Speaker·, on_that I demand tellers. Dale Hughes, W, Ya. Nolan, J. I. Wallin The SPEAKER pro tempore. nut the yeas and nays have Danforth Hulings O'Brien Walters Davis Humphrey, Wash. Oglesby Whaley been ordered. Difendcrfer Johnson, S.C. O'Hbaunessy White Tte question was taken; and there were-ayes 233, nays 43, Dooling Johnson, Utah Platt Wilson, Fla. answered "present" -2, not \Oting 145,. as follows: Drukker Johnson, Wash. Plumley Wilson, N'. Y. Dunn Kahn Price Winslow [Roll No. 64.] Edwa1·ds Kelley, l\fich. Prouty '\\oodruff YEAS-233. Elder Kelly, Pa. Reed Fairchild Kennedy, R. I. Riordan Abe1·crombie Burnett Dupre Glass Faison Kettner Roberts, Mass. Ada it· Byrns, Tenn. Ragan Goeke Alexander Caraway Eagle Goodwin, Ar·k. So, two-thirds having yoted in favor thereof, the rules were Allen Carlin Edmonds Gordon .Ashbrook Carter Escb Graham, Ill, suspended and the bill was passed. Aswell Casey Estopinal Gray· 'l'he Clerk announced the following additional pairs: .Au tin Chur·ch Evans Greene, .Mass. On this vote : Bailey Clancy Falconer Greene, VL Baker Cline Fart" Gregg Mr. GILLETT and l\Ir. SUTHERLAND, for bill, with Mr. BYRNES Baltz Coady . Fergusson Gudger of South Carolina, against. ija.rchfeld Collier· Ferris Guernsey Mr. ROGERS and Ur. PLUMLEY, for bill, with Mr. SAUNDERS, Barkley Connelly, Kans. Fess Hamilton, Mich. Barton Connolly, Iowa Fields Han·is against. Bathrick Cooper Fitzgemld Hay l\Ir. SA Ul\~ERS. l\lr. Speaker, I fincl I voted "nay." I wish Beakes Cox FitzBemy Hayde~ to withdraw that \Ote and -rote "present." I understand that Bell, Cal. Cramton Flood, Va. Heflin .Boollet· Cullop Floyd, Ark. Helgesen Mr. ROGERS did not YOte. Borchers Curry Foster Ilelvering The SPEAKER pro tempore. lie did not vote. Borland Davenport Fowler Henry The result of tbe vote was nnnonnced ns abore reconlecl. Bowdle Decket· Frnucis Hill Brown, N.Y. DPitf'iCil: Ft·ench Hinds LEAVE OF .AnSENCE. -Browne, Wis. Dersh<'m Gallagbet· Hinebaugh HrO\Yning Dickinson Gallivan Hou. ton lly unanimous consent, lea\e of absence wns granteu as fol- RrumiJaugh Dillon Garnet· Howard Brynn nixon GatTett, Tenn. Hull lows: Ruch:man, Ill. Donohoe GatTett, Tex. Igoe To Mr. WHALEY, for three days, on account of slcknes . Buchan:lD, Tex. Donovan (;('OL'ge ,J acoway To Mr. HENSLEY, for three days. on nccount of icknes . · Bulldey Doolittle Gill .Johnson, Ky. Rur~<'. R. Dak. Doremus Gilmore Jones To Mr. BARNHARDT, indefinitely, on account of illness anu Durte, Wis. Driscoll Gittins Keating death in his family. 1915. DONGRESSION_AL RECORD-HOUSE. 3837

ENROLLED BILL SIGNED. By :Mr. ALLEN: Memorial of the Legislature of the State Mr. ASHBROOK, ft·om the Committee on Enrolled Bills, re­ of Ohio, respecting pt·otection of passengers and shipping in­ ported thnt they had examined and found truly enrolled bill terests on the high seas and the Great Lakes; to the Committee of the following title, when the Speaker signed the same: on the Merchant Marine and Fisheries. Mr. H. R.17168. An act to authorize the North Alabama Traction By HAWLEY: Memorial of the Legislature of the State Oo., its successors and assigns, to construct, maintain, and of Oregon, asking that Congt·ess authorize tbe Secretary of operate a bridge across the Tennessee River at or near Decatur, Agriculture to make a study of local conditions necessary to formulate plans for public-road development, etc. ; to the Com­ Ala. mittee on Agriculture. ENROLLED BILLS PRESENTED TO THE PRESIDENT FOR HIS APPROVAL. Also, a memorial of the Legislature of the State of Oregon, . Mr. ASHBROOK, from the Committee on Enrolled Bills, re­ favoring the enactment of Senate bill 6217, entitled "A bill to ported that this day they had presented to the President of the increase the e:fijciency of the Organized Militia, and for other United _States, for his approval, the following bills: purposes " ; to the Committee on Military Affairs. . H. R. 18783. Au act to increase the limit of cost of the United By Mr. YOUNG of North Dakota: Memorial of the Legisla­ States post-office building and site at St. Petersburg, Fla.; ture of the State of North Dakota urging Congress to recon­ H. R.16896. An act for the relief of Col. Richard H. Wilson, sider and pass the resolution submitting the Sheppard-Hobson United States Army; and · prohibition amendment to the Constitution; to the Committee · H. R. 9584. An act to authorize the Secretary of the Treasury on the Judiciary. of the United States to sell the present old post o:ffice_and the Also, memorial of the Legislature of the State of North Da­ s.ite thereof in the citY of Jersey City, N. J. kota opposing the passage of proposed legislation to have granted ADJOURNMENT. to the State for.Jeasing purposes certain tracts of Government Mr. UNDERWOOD. 1\Ir. Speaker, I move that the House do lands; to the Committee on the Public Lands. now adjourn . .The motion was' agreed to; accordingly (at 8 o'clock and 59 PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS. mu~utes p. m.) the House, under its previous o·rder, adjourned . Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, private bills and resolutionS until to-morrow, Tuesday, February 16, 1915, at 11 .o'clock a. m. were introduced and severally referred as follows: By Mr. ASHBROOK:· A bill (H. R. 21455) granting an in­ EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION. crease of }Jension to J ames C. Wilcox; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Under clause 2 of Rule XXIV, a letter from the assistant Also, a bill (H. R. 214.56) granting an increase of pension to cler~ of the Court of Claims, transmitting a certified copy of the John W. Warman; to the Committee on Pensions. findings of fact and conclusion in the case of D. I. Smith et al. By Mr. BARNHART: A bill (H. R. 21457) granting an in­ v. The United States (H. Doc. No. 1608), was taken from the crease of pension to Leonidas C. Kilgore; to the Committee on Speaker's table, referred to the Committee on War Claims and Invalid Pensions. ordered to be printed. ' By Mr. GUERNSEY: A bill (H. R. 21458) granting an in­ crease of pension to Thomas J. Chase; to the Committee on REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PUBLIC BILLS AND Invalid Pensions. . RESOLUTIONS. Also, a bill (H. R. 21459) for the relief of Charles K. Bolster; to the Committee on Military Affairs. Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, By Mr. RAYBURN: A bill (H. n. 21460) for the relief of the Mr. FLOOD of Virginia, from the Committee on Foreign Af­ legal representatives of R. H. Wells; to the Committee on War /. fairs, to which was referred the resolution of the Senate ( S. J. Claims. Res. 210) to authorize the President to .invite certain Govern­ By 1\Ir. TAYLOR of Arkansas: A bill (H. R. 21461) for the ments to send delegates to the Pan American Medical Congress, relief of S. Reamey; to the Committee on War Cl:iims. reported the same with amendment, .accompanied by a repo1t Also, a bill (H. R. 21462) for the relief of the legal representa­ (No. 1409), which said joint resolution and report were re­ tives of ArcheL· Hays, deceased; to the Committee on War ferred to the Committe of the Whole House on the state of the Claims. Union. By Mr. NEELY of ,West Virginia: A bill (H. R. 21463) grant­ ing a pe~sion to Theodore H. Robinson ; to the Committee on PUBLIC BILLS, RESOLUTIONS, AND MEMORIALS. Pensions. · A Under clause 3 of Rule XXII, bills, resolutions, and memorials By Mr. KORBLY: bill (H. n. 21464) granting a pension to were introduced and severally referred as follows: James O'Neal; to the Committee on Pensions. By 1\Ir. ASHBROOK: A bill (H. n. 21451) pro,~ iding for arti­ ficial limbs for soldiers every two years; to the Committee on PETITIONS, ETC. Invalid Pensions. By 1\fr. PAGE of North Carolina: A bill (H. R. 21452) to au­ Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, petitions and papers were laid thorize the Secretary of the Treasury to audit and adjust cer­ on the Clerk's desk and referred as follows: tain claims of the State of North Carolina; to the Committee on By the SPEAKER (by request) : Petition of citizens of Claims. Augusta, Mo., favoring embargo on arms; to the Committee on By Mr. VOLLMER: A bill (H. n. 214G3) to reveal sections 35 Foreign Affairs. to 49, inclush·e, of the act of June 13, 1898, concerning mixed Also (by request), petition of Chamber of Commerce, Atoka, flour, as amended by act of April 12, 1902; to the Committee on Okla., relative to Choctaw Indian money; to the Committee on Ways and 1\Jeans. Indian Affairs. By Mr. CRISP: A bill (II. R. 214G4) to prohibit banks hold­ Also (by request), petition of Amalgamated Clothing Workers ing membership in tlle Federal resene system from receiving of America, relative to unemployment in the United States; to deposits when insolvent, and prescribing penalties therefor; to the Committee on Labor. the Committee on Banking and Currency. By Mr. ALLEN : Petition of citizens of Mount Yernon, Ohio. By Mr. BRYAN: Joint resolution (H. J. Res. 422) proposing against passage of laws abridging the freedom of the press; to an amendment to the Constitution of the United States; to the the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. Committee on the Judiciary. Also, petition of citizens of Cincinnati, Ohio, favoring embargo By the SPEAKER (by request) : Memorial of the Legislature on munitions of war; to the Committee on Fo::.·eign Affairs. of the State of North Dakota, urging upon Congress to recon­ By Mr. BAILEY: Petition of A. L. Ostman, of Kew York sider and pass the Sheppard-Hobson prohibition-amendment City, protesting against the Fitzgerald amendment to tile Post resolution; to the Committee on the Judiciary. Office appropriation bill; to the Committee on the Post Office Also (by request), a memorial of the Legislature of the State and Post Roads. of Kansas, asking Congress to take necessary steps to deal By Mr. BELL of California: Petition of the Shakespeare with tlle Cimarron RiYer situation as affecting the lands of Club, Pasadena, Cal., protesting against sending American horses Kansas and Oklahoma; to the Committee on Irrigation of Arid to European battle fields; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Lands. Also, memorial of Le Mesa (Cal.) Chamber of Commerce, By Mr. ASHBROOK: .Memorial of the Legislature of the favoring an appropriation for tile construction of a military State of Ohio, relative to the protection of passengers and ship­ road to Yuma, Ariz.; to the Committee on 1\Jilitnry Affairs. ping interests on the bigh seas and Great Lnkes; to the Com­ By Mr. BROWNE of Wisconsin: Petition of S. E. Pearl, C. C. mittee on the ~Jerchant Marine and Fishet'ies. Cnrtis, ancl others, of Arpin and Wood County, Wis., favoring

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3838, CONGRESS! ON AL RECORD-SENATE. FEBRUARY IU,.- freedom of speech and. of the press and opposing House bill against polygamy in the United States; to the Committee on the '20644; to the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. · Judiciary:. Afso, petition of 0. W. Paulus, John A. Gaynor, and otherst of Also, mem01ial of chamber of commerce of Pittsburgll, Pa., · Grand Rapid , Wis., favoring bills to prohibit export of war protesting against House bill 18666, ship-purchase bill ; to the material; to the Committee ('D Foreign Affairs. Committee on the Merchant Marine and Fisheries. By Mr. BRUCKNER: Petition of J. C. Noonan, Miss M. T. AI o, petition of the Frankford Arsenal Association, of Phila­ 1\Iurpl!.y, l\1i s C. I. Farrell, and 91 other Roman Catholic citi­ delphia., Pa~ relative to appropriation for improvements in zens, of New York City, against use of the mails by the Men­ Frankford Arsenal; to the Committee on Appropriations. ace; to the Committee on the Post· Office and Post Roads. .Also, petition of the Lutheran Mutual Fire Insurance Asso­ Also, petition of John Murphy, Washington, D. C., favoring a ciation, Burlington, Iowa, .relative to exempting from bill to bill placing on the retired list -of the Army, with the rank of compel companies doing business in a State to pay taxes there major general, Col. John L. Clem, Quartermaster Corps; to the on mutual insurance within church organizations; to the Com­ Committee on Military Affairs. mittee on Ways and Means. Also, petition of New York associated dailies against increase By 1\Ir. l"fEELY of West Virginia: Papers to accompany House in postage rate on newspapers; to the Committee on the Post bill 20389; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Office and Post Roads. By Mr. OLDFIELD: Petition of Legislature of Arkansas-, Also, petition of harbor boatmen of New York, favoring pas­ favoring completion of a system of locks and dams begun in sage of seamen's bill; to the Committee on the Merchant .Marine 1898; to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. and Fisheries. · By 1\Ir. PALMER: Petition of citizens ·of Easton, Pa., pro­ Also, petition of E. R. Davis and Norman King, of New York. testing against abridgment of freedom of the press; to the City, against Fitzgerald amendment to Post Office appropria­ Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. tion bill ; to the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. By Mr. RAINEY: Petition of 48 citizens of New Salem, ID., By 1\lr. COPLEY: l\Iemorial of St. . Joseph's Brancht No. 67, and 34 citizens of Bluffs, Ill., against Fitzgerald amendment to Western Catholic Union protesting against export of war Post Office appropriation bill; to the Committee on the Post material; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Office and Post Roads. , By 1\Ir. CURRY: Petition of l;"'h.amber of Commerce of North­ By Mr. REILLY of Connecticut: Petition ·of sundry citizens; ern San Joaquin County, CaL, against legislation prohibiting and societies of Connecticut, favoring bills to prohibit export of manufacture by the Go-vernment of stamped envelopes; to the war material; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. By l\Ir. DILLON: Petition of citizens of South Dakota, -favor­ By Mr. SCULLY: Petition of Art Ring, of Long Branch, N. J., ing embargo · on war material; to the Committee on Foreign favoring establishment of municipal free-employment agencies; Affairs. to the Committee on Labor. By Mr. DOOLITTLE : Petition of 32 citiz-ens of Herington By Mr. SillS: Petition of the Woman's Christian Temperance and Lehigh, Kans., favoring an embargo on war material; to ·Union of Big Sandy, Tenn., favoring national prohibition; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. · the Committee on the Judiciary. By Mr. DONonoE: Petition of citizens of Philadelphia, Pa., By 1\fr. STEPHENS of California: Petitions signed by 1,200 favoring an embargo on arms ; to the Committee on Foreign citizens of Los Angeles, CaL,. favoring House joint resolution Affairs. 377, prohibiting the export of arms and munitions of war; to By Mr. FI~TLEY: Petition of Miss 1\fary S. Burroughs, chair­ the Committee on Foreign Affairs. man, and 6,000 citizens in a mass meeting at Elmwood Music Also, petitions signed by 41 citizens of Los Angeles, Cal., fa­ Hall, Buffalo, N. Y., against any abridgment of the freedom of voring House joint resolution 344. authorizing a national mar­ the press; to the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. keting commission; to the Committee on Agriculture. By Mr. FLOYD of Arkan~as: Petition of citizens of Baxter Also, petitions signed by six citizens of Los Angeles, Cal., County, Ark.., for the completion of the system of locks and favoring Palmer-Owen child labor bill ; to the Committee on dams on the upper White RiYer; to the Committee on Rivers Labor. · and Harbors. By Mr. TALCOTT of New York: Me:norial of common cotm­ Also, papers to accompany H. R. 21061, granting an increase cil of the city of Utica, N. Y., favoring the pensioning of civil­ of pension to William R. Fisher; to the Committee Qn . Invalid service employees; to the Committee on Reform in the CiviL \ Pensions. · Service. By Mr. GALLIVAN: Petition of citizens of Indianapolis, Also, petition of citizens of Vienna, N. Y., protesting against Ind., and citizens of Jamaica Plain and Boston, .Mass., favor­ Fitzgerald amendment to the Post ·Office appropriation bill; to ing an embargo on war material; to the Committee on Foreign the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. Affairs. By Mr. HELGESEN: Petitions of citizens of Elgin, Linton, and Gladstone, Lidgewoodt New home, Sykeston, Hankinson, and SENATE. Richardton, N. Dak., favoring passage of bills to prohibit ex­ port of war material; to the Committee on Foreign Aff.airs. TUESDAY, Feb·ruary 16, 1916. Also, petition of 40 citizens of Kindred, N. Dak., in the inter­ est of peace ; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. (LegisLative day of Monday, February 15, 1915.)' By Mr. KONOP: Memorial of Women's Club, of Green Bay, Wis., favoring passage of the Palmer-Owen child labor bill; to The Senate reassembled at 12 o'clock noon, on the expiration the Committee on Labor. - · of the recess. Also, petition of Citizens of the ninth congressional district of PUBLIC BUILDING .AT FORT WORTH, TEX. Wisconsin, favoring bills to prohibit exl)ort of war material; to Mr. CULBERSON. .Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent, the Committee on Foreign Affairs. out of order, to submit a report from the Committee on Public By Mr:.' MAHAN: Petition of · Anna Warner Bailey Chapter, Buildings and Grounds. Daughters of the American Revolution, of Groton, Conn., favor­ The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there objection? ing an· appropriation to be used to make copies of certain his­ Mr. SMOOT. I object. I suggest the absence of a quorum. torical data now on file in the· Pension Office; to the Committee The VICE PRESIDENT. The Secretary will call the roll. on Appropriations. The Secretary called the roll, and the following Senators an· By 1\Ir. MOORE: Petition of sundry citizens of Philadelphia, swered to their names : Pa., favoring bills to prohibit export of war material; to the Ashurst Dillingham Martine, N. J. Smith, Ga. Committee on Foreign Affairs. Bankhead Fan Nelson Smith, Md. By Mr. MORIN: Petitions of Vorwaerts Singing Society, of Borah Fletcher Norris Smith, Mich. Pittsburgh; Pa.; German Roman Catholic Central Verein, of Brady Goff O'Gorman Smith, S.C. Brandegee Gore Overman Smcot Philadelphia, Pa.; and E. 0. F. Ernstt of Pittsburgh, Pa., Bristow Gronna Page Stephenson favoring an embargo on war material; to the Committee on Bryan Hitchcock Penrose Sterling Foreign Affairs. . · Burleigh . Hollis Perkins Sutherland Burton James Pittman Swanson Also, petition of E. C. Keyser, of Pittsburgh, Pa., relative to Camden Johnson Pomerene Thomas system of Federal, State, and municipal free-employment Catron Jones Reed Thompson agencies; to the Committee on Labor. Chilton Kenyon Robinson Townsend Clapp Kern Root Vardaman Also, petition of Simpson, Brown & Williams, of Philadelphia, Clark, Wyo. Lane Saulsbury Walsh Pa., protesting against House bill 16098, relative to registration Clarke, Ark. Lippitt Shafrotn · Warren of trade-marks; to the Committee on Patents. Colt Lodge Sheppard Weeks Crawford McCumber Sherman White Also, memorial of Woman's Home Missionary Society, Oak­ Culberson McLean Shively Williams land Methodist Episcopal Church, Pittsburgh, Pa., protesting Cummins Martin, Va. Simmons .Works