Queensland

Parliamentary Debates [Hansard]

Legislative Assembly

WEDNESDAY, 28 NOVEMBER 1973

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2040 Supply [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice

WEDNESDAY, 28 NOVEMBER 1973,

Mr. SPEAKER (Hon. W. H. Lonergan, FUnders) read prayers and took the chair at 11 a.m.

S'UP'PLEMENTARY ESTIMATES, 1972-73 Mr. SPEAKER 'read a message from His Excellency the Governor transmitting the Supplementary Estimates for the yerur 1972-73. Estimates ordered to be printed, and referred to Committee of Supply.

VOTE ON ACCOUNT, 1974-75 Mr. SPEAKER read a message from His Excellency the Governor recommending that the following provision be made on account of the services of the year ending 30 June 1975- From the Consolidated Revenue Fund of Queen~>land (exclusive of the morneys standing to the credit of the Loan Fund Account), the sum of one hundred and thvrty-five million dollars; From the Trust and Special Funds, the sum of one hundred and thirty-five milliorn dollars; From the moneys standing to the credit of the Loan Fund Account, the sum of fifteen million dollars. Message referred to Committee of Supply.

PAPERS The following papers were laid on the table, and ordered to be printed:- Reports- Balance Sheet and Profit and Loss Account of the Public Curator, for the year 1972-73. University of Queensland, for the year 1972. The following paper was laid on the table:- Order in Council under the Co-operative Housing Societies Act 1958-1971.

QUESTIONS UPON NOTICE

INCREASING OF PETROL PRICES BY SERVICE STATION OPERATORS Mr. Frawley, pursuant to notice, asked The Premier,- Will he give an assurance that action will be taken against those service station operators who increased the price of petrol after their associations agreed to withhold any price increase until after discussions with the Minister for Justice on November 29? Questiol!S Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973) Questions Upon Notice 2041

Answer:- DEATH OF FISH, BURNETT RIVER "The Honourable Member will know Mr. Jensen, pursuant to notice, asked The that the Honourable the Minister for Minister for Local Government,- Justice and Attorney-General is having Has he any further information on the discussions with petrol retail industry latest fish kill early this month in the representatives tomorrow." Burnett River?

NEWSPAPER ARTICLE ON SHIRE RATES, Answer:- CABOOLTURE "No further information is available as Mr. Frawley, pursuant to notice, asked to the cause of the fish kills. A sugar The Minister for Local Government,- mill which is suspected of having polluted With reference to an article in the the river has been advised of the need to Sunday Sun of November 25 wherein it comply with the requirements of the Clean was reported that some people in Cabool­ Waters Act 1971. This matter will be ture were paying only $5 per year for rates followed up by the Water Quality Council and enjoying all amenities such as sewer­ of Queensland." age, kerbing and channelling and reticulated Mr. Jensen interjected. water, in view of the many enquiries to me on November 26 from people wishing Mr. SPEAKER: Order! Yesterday I issued to live in this Utopia, the expected land a general warning that interjections will not rush which could result and the denial to be tolerated during question time. I do not me on November 26 by the Chairman of propose to warn the honourable member the Caboolture Shire Council, who stated under Standing Order 123A on this occasion, that the article was a lot of rubbish and but I shall if he interjects again. that he made no such statement, are any of these claims correct and, if not, how could such a report get into print? "HINKLER HIGH SCHOOL" AS NAME OF Answer:- NEW HIGH SCHOOL, NORTH BUNDABERG "! understand from the Chairman of the Mr. Jensen, pursuant to notice, asked The Caboolture Shire Council that he has been Minister for Education,- grossly misrepresented in the Press report As the citizens of Bundaberg wish to referred to by the Honourable Member. have the new high school at North Bunda­ He has in fact invited me to visit the berg named "Hinkler High School" in Shire to observe at first hand the develop­ memory of the famous aviator from North ment and problems of the Area, in the Bundaberg, will he ensure that it will be same way that I have visited many other so named? Areas of the State. I will be pleased to visit the Area as soon as my Parliamentary ,duties permit me to do so. A $5 rate bill Answer:- as mentioned in the Press report would cer­ "Names proposed for new schools must tainly not cover sewerage, water, kerbing receive the final approval of the Queens­ and channelling in Caboolture or anywhere land Place Name·s Board. No proposal has else. In fact, the average annual rates and yet been submitted to the Board by my ·charges payable on residential allotments Department in relation to the new high in the Shire of Caboolture are very com­ school at North Bundaberg and the Hon­ parable with such rates and charges in ourable Member's Question is the first indi­ other similar Local Authority Area·s. The cation I have had that the name 'Hinkler reported attack upon the Local Govern­ State High School' is favoured. Perhaps ment Department also has no basis in fact: the Honourable Member would provide me the relationship of the Department with all with further information on the extent of Local Authorities being on a very high support for the name in Bundaberg, so ·plane. As the Minister administering this that it could be further considered." Department I would quote from a resolu­ tion passed at the 1973 Local Government Conference moved by the President of the Local Government Association of Queens­ THREATENED BLACK BAN, COORPAROO land, Cr. Rogers and reading as follows:­ FIRE STATION That this Conference of Local Govern­ Mr. Jensen, pursuant to notice, asked The ment delegates convey to the Premier the Minister for Development,- Local Government Association's apprecia­ (!) Was the calling of a special meeting tion of the Minister's efforts in the interests of the Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board of Local Government and the considera­ on November 21 a result of a threatened tions that are placed before him'. In these black ban on the Coorparoo Fire Station? 'Circumstances I can only say, in answer to the last part of the Question, that the (2) What is the name of the person who newspaper involved appeared to be more advised the Metropolitan Fire Brigades concerned with producing an interesting Board or its representatives of the threat­ :article than a factual report." ened black ban? 2042 Questions Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice

(3) Was the ground for the threatened TEACHER EDUCATION COURSES FOR black ban the fact that the Queensland TECHNICAL TEACHERS Country Fire Brigades Boards Union of Mr. P. Wood, pursuant to notice, asked! Employers occupied the Coorparoo Fire The Minister for Education,- Station? ( 1) With respect to tradesmen who are ( 4) Was the union occupying the appointed to teaching positions in technical premises by virtue of a licence to occupy colleges and high schools, what full-time granted by the Metropolitan Fire Brigades and part-time teacher education is given?· Board? (2) Is it proposed to review the period' (5) Was the licence terminated forth­ of teacher education and, if so, to what with on November 21 by the Metropolitan extent? Fire Brigades Board in breach of the licensed agreement? Answers:- (6) Was termination of the licensed ( 1) "At present, all teachers of Manual: agreement aided by the Metropolitan Fire Arts undertake a one-year full-time course Brigades Board at the request or instigation of teacher education to qualify for appoint­ of Mr. Rodgers, Secretary of the United ment to high schools. Tradesmen with a Firefighters' Union? minimum of five years' post-apprenticeship· experience, and generally employed as, foremen or supervisors in industry, are Answer:- appointed technical teachers within tech­ (1 to 6) "This is a matter between the nical colleges. All technical teachers are· Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board and the appointed initially to metropolitan tech-­ Queensland Country Fire Brigades Board nical colleges and are required to under-­ Union of Employers and I understand it take a four semester part-time teacher is being finalized by the parties con­ education course at the Mt. Gravatt cerned." Teachers College, an autonomous College of Advanced Education. The first course was introduced in 1972. Technical teachers attend the teachers college one full day (7t hours per week) for two· BREAD PRICES IN CAPITAL CITIES years and are involved in an average of five hours contact per day." Mr. R. E. Moore, pursuant to notice, asked The Minister for Justice,- (2) "As from 1974, tradesmen seeking ( 1) What is the price of a 2 lb. loaf appointment as teachers of Manual Arts in of white bread in each of the six State high schools will undertake either: (a) A capital cities? one-year full"time teacher education course if they possess substantial senior (2) In which of these cities is the price level qualifications; or (b) A two-year controlled by the State Government? full-time teacher education course if they possess Junior level qualifications. The (3) On how many occasions during 1973 Mt. Gravatt Teachers College and a sub-­ has the price of bread been increased in committee of the Board of Teacher Edu­ these cities? cation have reviewed the teacher educa­ tion course for technical teachers during Answers:- this year and it is not proposed to vary the length of the course at this point of ( 1) "According to information obtained time." by the Commissioner of Prices either from official documents or from industry sources, prices of unwrapped two-pound standard loaves of bread in the various STATE SCHOLARSHIPS AND GRANTS, State capital c1t1es are as follows:­ TERTIARY INSTITUTIONS Brisbane, 23c; Sydney, 28c; Adelaide, 26c; Mr. P. Wood, pursuant to notice, askecE Melbourne, 26c; Perth, 26c; and Hobart, The Minister for Education,- 28c." With reference to Commonwealth funding of tertiary education, what are the (2) "Prices of certain lines of bread details of any continuing financial assist­ are fixed by statutory authorities in respect ance from the State Government to tertiary of sales in Sydney, Adelaide and Perth." institutions, including scholarships and grants? (3) "As far as can be ascertained from the sources indicated it would appear that bread prices have been increased in the Answer:- various capital c1t1es during 1973 as "From 1974 the Commonwealth Gov­ follows:-Sydney, three times; Adelaide ernment will assume responsibility for alL twice; Melbourne, once; Perth, once~ financing of tertiary education. No State Hobart, once; Brisbane, once." finance will therefore be required for Questions Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice 2043

tertiary institutions. The State Govern­ (3) When does he expect that (a) ment will continue to pay living allowances planning will be completed and (b) a to its own scholarship-holders who attend recommendation will be made to the Works tertiary institutions." Department? Answers:- (! and 2) "After careful consideration MUSIC TEACHERS AND EQUIPMENT, it has been decided to construct new STATE SCHOOLS accommodation on the Grovely State Mr. P. Wood, pursuant to notice, asked School site." The Minister for Education,- (3) "(a) Planning is proceeding. (b) ( 1) How many music specialists are Construction will commence as soon as employed in State primary and high possible in the light of the present building schools? situation." (2) What musical equipment is provided by his Department to schools and what is APPLICATIONS FOR AUTHORITIES TO the subsidy payable? PROSPECT, GALILEE BASIN Mr. N. F. Jones, pursuant to notice, asked (3) Is it proposed to review the music The Minister for Mines,- syllabus? (1) With reference to the Queensland Government Mining Journal of August, Answers:- 1973, in which applications were called for (!) "Teachers of Music in State Prim­ authorities to prospect in the area described ary Practising Schools or large Class 1 therein, otherwise known as the Galilee Schools as at November 27, 1973, 65; Basin, what were the names of the applicant Part-time, 3; Advisory and Area teachers, companies, corporations and/or individuals 1 + 8 = 9; Instrumental teachers, 6: received by November 1? Total = 83. High Schools, 53." (2) On what date will the successful applicant or applicants be selected? (2) "All secondary schools in the State (3) What are the details of the pro­ were issued with one autoharp. All special posals submitted by each applicant for the schools in the State were issued with one exploration and development of the groups guitar. All primary schools in the State available? will be issued with one set of chime bars. A subsidy of $ for $ allows a school to ( 4) Are the details satisfactory to ,purchase musical instruments for class­ pre-empt the manufacture of synthetic room use up to an amount of $200 in any fuels and petro-chemicals in Queensland? one year. Instruments included are tuned Answer:- .and non-tuned percussion instruments and autoharps." ( 1 to 4) "Of the four areas for which applications for Authorities to Prospect (3) "A Primary School Music Syllabus were invited, only two are in the Galilee has been printed and is at present being Basin. Most of the information desired by collated for distribution and use in the the Honourable Member is confidential 1974 school year. This syllabus is so between the applicants and my Depart­ designed to involve teachers of all grades ment. However, the position is that the in schools' music programs. A syllabus applications received are at present being .approved for use in Secondary schools assessed and it is anticipated that a has been trialled to Grade 10 in 1973 and decision will be made in the near future. the syllabus for Grades 11 and 12 which The advertisement that appeared in the was distributed recently will commence Queensland Government Mining Journal trial in 1974. I will be pleased to make and to which the Honourable Member a copy of the Primary and Secondary refers states, and I quote, 'preference shall syllabuses available to the Honourable be given to companies or persons pro­ member should he so desire." posing to utilize all or part of the coal mined as a result of this exploration for the manufacture of synthetic fuels and petro-chemicals in Queensland'." NEw AccoMMODATION, GRovELY STATE SCHOOL POLICE EMPLOYED AT SPORTING FIXTURES Mr. N. F. Jones, pursuant to notice, asked Mr. N. F. Jones, pursuant to notice, asked The Minister for Education,- The Minister for Works,- ( 1) In relation to the future replacement In relation to police employed at sports and reconstruction of the Grovely State grounds during the playing of sporting School following the recent fire, what level fixtures- of planning has his Department reached? ( 1) Are the police rostered on police (2) Has any recommendation been made duties? If not, are they employed in the to the Works Department for work to be off-duty hours by the organisation con­

( 2) Are the officers still covered by Minister for Minerals and Energy, accusing police regulations? the Queensland Government of irresponsi­ (3) Are the officers covered by the bility in making black coal available to Police Department in relation to workers' overseas interests beyond the capacity of compensation? the State for normal development? Answers:- (2) As it is stated that the deposits are obviously being acquired by major overseas ( 1) "Sufficient police are rostered for oil companies with the specific object of the purposes of maintenance of law and using the coal for making motor spirit, on order. Sporting bodies are at liberty to what basis was this claim made? engage police officers in terms of Clause 25 of the Police Award--State for the performance of work outside their ordinary Answer:- duty and in their own time." (1 and 2) "As usual Mr. Connor has (2) "Yes." seen fit to criticise Queensland without first ascertaining the facts. It is a pity that (3) "Police Officers are excluded from Mr. Connor has never availed himself of the provisions of the Workers' Compensa­ the opportunity of discussing this State's tion Acts. Equivalent benefits on an ex­ coal development policies with any mem­ gratia basis are usually paid in the event ber of the Queensland Government. He of an officer being killed on duty. Police appears to be riled that Queensland is Officers performing Special Services are aware of the dangers in relying on overseas regarded as being on duty for the purposes sources for oil supplies and is acting of sick leave entitlements etc. provided by the Police Award-State." accordingly. The Geological Survey of the Queensland Government's Department of Mines has been busily engaged in investi­ gating large areas of coal in locations never SELF-ARMING OF WOMEN FOR PRO­ explored before. This was for the sole TECTION, COUNTRY AREAS purpose of offering these areas to com­ Mr. Bousen, pursuant to notice asked The panies wishing to establish a synthetic Minister for Works,- ' fuels and petro-chemical industry in Aus­ ( 1) Has his attention been drawn to the tralia and, in particular, in Queensland. statement by the Chairman of the While the drilling by the Geological Survey Waggamba Shire Council, Councillor Peter has not been to the extent of determining Warner, in The Sunday Mail of November exact reserve figures, there are clear indi­ 25, that women are arming themselves cations of several billions of tons of coal. against possible murderers and rapists? My Department has mapped these coal­ bearing areas on a graticule system to (2) Is this the type of protective situa­ make easier the delineation of boundaries tion which the Government parties advo­ and has limited the individual Authority cated under the name of law and order in to Prospect areas to 300 square miles. the State election campaign last year? Consequently, two areas in the Galilee Answers:- Basin have been advertised for tender. Regarding the use of this coal, I can do (1) "I have seen the Press report." no better than quote from the official (2) "The trend towards increasing advertisement. It states,-'Preference crimes of violence in the community is shall be given to companies or persons apparent throughout the world. No police proposing to utilize all or part of the coal force is in a position to prevent all crimes mined as a result of this exploration for of this nature, particularly m isolated the manufacture of synthetic fuels and country areas. The Government will con­ petro-chemicals in Queensland'. It is esti­ tinue to do all it can to provide this State mated that both of these areas have suffi­ with as efficient a Police Force as possible. cient tonnages of coal to justify the estab­ In this regard it is incumbent on members lishment of such a plant. The determina­ of the Opposition party to refrain from tion of the suitability of the coal quality agitating and promoting disrespect of the and the feasibility of the economics of Queensland Police and for the laws of the such a venture will be the responsibility of land as they have amply demonstrated in the successful tenderers. They will need to the past." be conversant with the latest overseas tech­ nology for the conversion of coal to syn­ thetic fuels. I would emphasise that no STATEMENT BY COMMONWEALTH areas have so far been allocated as appli­ MINISTER FOR MINERALS AND ENERGY cations are still being evaluated. While it ON QUEENSLAND SALE OF BLACK CoAL is hoped that Australian companies, or some with large Australian equity, will be Mr. Armstrong, pursuant to notice asked The Minister for Mines,- ' the successful tenderers, the applications were open to overseas as well as Australian ( 1) Has his attention been drawn to a companies and will be considered strictly statement in The Courier-Mail of Novem­ on their merits. Indeed, rather than vilify ber 27 attributed to the Commonwealth Queensland, I would have thought that the Questions Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice 2045

Federal Minister responsible for the million allocated for expenditure under the development and utilization of our coal Beef Roads Programme this financial year, reserves would be elated that Queensland slightly more than half is being carried out has the foresight to initiate such a great by contract. I have tabled a list of con­ project. This is in line with the policies tract works scheduled to be released this of the present Queensland Government in financial year at a total estimated cost, regard to the development of our natural including materials, of $12·3 million. The resources." works are listed against the various local authorities and exclude beef roads. The list includes road works aggregating 82 · 8 OIL SPILLAGE, CAIRNS HARBOUR miles in length and estimated to cost $8 · 269 million. The remainder consists Mr. R. Jones, pursuant to notice, asked The Minister for Conservation,- of bridging and other works. In the first four months of this financial year, works (! ) What was the source and volume to the value of $2·456 million have been of and the extent of damage from the oil released for construction by tenders and spill which occurred in the Cairns harbour on November 21? $H ·472 million by day labour. Substantial portions of the work released for construc­ (2) Are prosecution proceedings tion by day labour are performed by sub­ pending? contractors and with plant hired from earthmoving contractors. Sub-contracts ( 3) What redress in the way of com­ pensation have small-boat owners and cover such work as earthworks, road sur­ others affected by the spillage? facings with bitumen seal coats and asphal­ tic concrete, supply of gravel and screen­ ings, precast pipes and box culverts, pre­ Answers:- stressed bridge planks and girders etc." ( I) "The spill was investigated and dealt with by the Cairns Harbour Board which Paper.-Whereupon Mr. Camm laid upon is the prescribed authority in terms of the Table of the House the list of works the Pollution of Waters by Oil Act. A referred to. full report has not yet been received by my Department of Harbours and Marine, but I am advised that the amount of the spill was estimated at about one tonne. HosPITALS INQUIRY BY W. D. ScoTT Several small craft were oil stained and & Co. PTY. LTD. some patches of oil have since come ashore in the Machans Beach area." Mr. F. P. Moore, pursuant to notice, asked The Minister for Health,- (2) "A complaint has been laid against a ship by the Cairns Harbour Board." ( 1) Have the management consultants engaged by the North and South Brisbane (3) "Small boat owners may seek re­ Hospitals Boards prepared and presented a dress by civil action against the originator report to the board? of the oil spill." (2) Has the board a copy? (3) Will the report be made available CONTRACT AND DAY-LABOUR WoRK, to Members of this House? MAIN ROADS PROGRAMME Mr. Ahern for Mr. Lee, pursuant to notice, Answer:- asked The Minister for Mines,- ( 1 to 3) "I draw the attention of the What is the proposed permanent works Honourable Member to previous Questions programme for 1973-74 for contract work concerning these matters. The firm of and day labour in the categories (a) shire, W. D. Scott & Co. Pty. Ltd. has been (b) type of work, (c) if road works, length engaged by the North Brisbane and South in miles, (d) other type of work and (e) Brisbane Hospitals Boards to carry out estimated value of work? studies at the Royal Brisbane Hospital complex and the Princess Alexandra Hos­ Answer:- pital over a period of two years. I indi­ cated earlier that during the course of the "There are 131 Local Authorities in studies, reports were to be presented to the Queensland and an answer in the form respective Hospitals Boards for their con­ requested was not feasible in the time sideration and any action deemed neces­ available. However, the foUowing informa­ sary. The Chairman of the Hospitals tion provides an outline Answer to the Boards has advised that progress reports Question. The Main Roads Permanent are now in the course of preparation by the Works programme excluding Beef Roads, Management Consultants for consideration totals $54·613 million. Of the $6·4 by the respective Hospitals Boards." 2046 Questions Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice

STORAGE OF FISH FOR LOCAL Company Abattoir treats sheep carcases CONSUMPTION, INNISFAIL FISH BOARD without charge. The evidence available Mr. F. P. Moore, pursuant to notice, asked suggests that consumer reaction favours The Minister for Primary Industries,- tender-stretch meat." ( 1) With reference to the supply of fish (3) "Tender-stretch meat is available in stored at the Innisfail Fish Board and the Brisbane and at all major centres of non-availability to the local customers, in population in Queensland. Seventeen particular the fish shops, will he press for abattoirs have indicated willingness to use a guaranteed supply of fish for local con­ the process but the response by retail sumption at Innisfail? butchers has been disappointing. There is no official identification scheme for tender­ (2) Will he press for a local person to stretch meat in operation." be engaged for filleting at a contract rate and thus substantially increase storage capacity at Innisfail? FRAUD SQUAD INVESTIGATION OF LAND TRANSACTIONS, WOOGOOMPAH ISLAND Answers:- Mr. Blake, pursuant to notice, asked The (1) "Mackerel has been consigned from Minister for Works,- Innisfail to other markets during the course ;)f the season for storage, but sufficient (1) Has advice been received from the mackerel has been retained to meet the Solicitor-General indicating whether or not local demand. I understand that arrange­ evidence available regarding certain land ments have been made for 40,000 lb. to transactions on Woogoompah Island i> be placed in store to meet the off-season sufficient to substantiate the preferment oi local demand." any criminal charge? (2) "Most of the mackerel at Innisfail (2) If advice has not been received, is in a frozen state which makes it un­ when will it be received? suitable for filleting and re-freezing for storage." Answers:­ (!) "No." ( 2) "The matter is still receiving con­ TENDER-STRETCH BEEF AND MUTTON sideration by the Solicitor-General who Mr. Blake, pursuant to notice, asked The will advise the Commissioner of Police Minister for Primary Industries,- of his decision when made." (!) What process is used to produce tender-stretched beef and mutton carcases and how does the process improve eating COMMONWEALTH LEGISLATION ON HUMAN quality? RIGHTS AND RACIAL DISCRIMINATION (2) Is the additional cost to the con­ (a) Mr. Row, pursuant to notice, asked The sumer significant and what has been the Minister for Conservation,- consumer reaction to date? In view of the introduction by the Com­ (3) Is the beef and mutton which is monwealth Government of legislation subjected to this process readily available designed to supersede Queensland laws across the counter and how is it identified? which, it is claimed, discriminate against Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders and with the provision of severe penalties for Answers:- alleged infringements of so-called human ( 1) "Tender-stretched beef and mutton rights, what right of protection will officers are produced by hanging sides of beef or and staff of the Department of Aboriginal whole mutton carcases by the pelvis rather and Island Affairs have against dis­ than the hind leg. Carcases must be hung crimination towards them by Common­ within one hour of slaughter and be main­ wealth agents or other radicals? tained for about twenty-four hours. The process improves the tenderness of certain Answer:- cuts by preventing muscles from following their natural tendency to shorten as rigor " Assuming the Honourable Member mortis sets in. Such shortening produces refers to the Racial Discrimination Bill .toughening." 1973 introduced by the Commonwealth Attorney-General (Senator Murphy) (2) "The retail price of tender-stretch recently, without prior consultation with meat should be about the same as meat the States, I can inform him that irres­ treated in the ordinary way. The Metro­ pective of the attempts to cloud the real politan Public Abattoir in Brisbane treats issues behind the legislation by specific­ whole beef bodies for a fee of 30 cents. ally referring to Queensland's legislation Toowoomba Public Abattoir charges 20 on management of prope1ty in this regard cents per body of beef. Kilcoy Pastoral the Commonwealth has 'missed the boat' Questions Upon Notice [28 NoVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice 2047

by almost two years. The reference to (2) "It is evident that the section of the Property Management is clearly stated in Human Rights Bill 1973 relating to en­ Queensland's legislation to insist upon per­ forcement of human rights, would enable sonal freedom of choice by the individual. the Commonwealth Industrial Court to One would hope that the Attorney-General quash decisions made by any other Court will in future refrain from his 'mid-night or Tribunal. As I indicated in my state­ raid' tactics, again demonstrated by the ment last Thursday, the only communica­ introduction of this legislation, and at tion we have had with the Common­ least extend the coutiesy to Australian wealth Government on either of these Bills citizens of consultation with regard to was first draft copies of the proposed their particular welfare. Based on news­ measures. I had to obtain copies of the paper reports, the issues arising from the final draft of each Bill from sources other Bill will intrude upon and invade the than the Federal Government. As far as personal privacy and the liberty of every consultation between the Commonwealth citizen of the country irrespective of race, and the States in regard to the powers to colour or creed and therefore I believe be conferred upon the Commonwealth it should be very carefully studied by Industrial Courts, I am not aware of any every citizen before either House of the discussions having been held." Commonwealth Parliament approves. I do not question but rather applaud the basic principle of anti-discrimination but do deplore the apparent subterfuge of PoLICE INVESTIGATIONS INTO BOMBING using this ideology to invade the liberty OF TORINO NIGHT CLUB and privacy of the individual. Queensland officers, not only of the Department of Mr. Marginson for Mr. Davis, pursuant to Aboriginal and Island Affairs, but through­ notice, asked The Minister for Works,- out the State Service, have nothing what­ (1) In most major police investigations, soever to fear from any legislation regard­ is considerable information released in an ing discrimination. In fact, Queensland endeavour to obtain the maximum public has over the years, demonstrated an out­ assistance? standing record of achievement not only (2) Why does the reverse apply in the in the welfare of its Aboriginal inhabit­ case of police investigations into the bomb­ ants but of all citizens of the State and the ing of the Torino Night Club in Brisbane only existing discrimination with regard to Aboriginal people would be favourable earlier this year? and beneficial as designed by the Abori­ (3) Why is he, even in this House, ginal Advisory Council, and I believe that adopting a policy of secrecy towards the the draftsman has been cautious enough progress of the investigation? to protect this area. With due respect to a famous statesman, I might say­ ·Let the Commonwealth do its worst we Answers:- shall continue to do our best'." ' ( 1) "In cases where public assistance is considered essential to police investiga­ tions such information as is considered relevant is released." (2) "This procedure was followed in (b) Mr. Lane, pursuant to notice asked The the case of the fire at the Torino Night Minister for Justice,- ' Club." ( 1) Are enormous powers granted to (3) "A policy of secrecy is not adopted. the Commonwealth Industrial Court under The release of information which could legislation introduced in the Common­ adversely affect police investigations or wealth Parliament relating to human rights future proceedings would not be in the and racial discrimination? public interest." (2) Will the court have the power to quash decisions made by State courts and tribunals? If so, what consultation has the HousiNG CoMMISSION RENTAL HousEs Commonwealth Government had with the AND AGED PERSONS' UNITS, States on this matter? MARYBOROUGH Mr. Alison, pursuant to notice, asked The Answers:- Minister for Works,- ( 1) "Yes. An examination of the ( 1) How many are on the waiting list Human Rights Bill 1973 and the Racial at Maryborough for (a) Housing Com­ Discrimination Bill 1973 introduced into mission houses for rental and (b) units the Senate last week, indicate clearly that for the aged? they confer tremendous power on the (2) What is the present position regard­ ~ommonwealth Industrial Court. Sweep­ ing the contract let earlier this year for the mg powers such as those contained in these construction of five commission houses Bills are not to be possessed by any Court and when is it considered that they will be in Australia." ready for rental? 2048 Questions Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice

(3) In view of the critical and worsen­ (2) "It is not possible to give any ing situation as regards housing accom­ accurate indication as to a commencement modation and land for residential purposes date for these building operations. The in Maryborough, will he give urgent con­ Honourable Member can be assured, how­ sideration to calling tenders immediately ever, that my Department will take all for at least ten more houses for rental appropriate action to avoid delay in the and to releasing a limited number of reviewing of working drawings and specific­ building allotments in commission-owned ations when they are received from the land, in what is known as Stevenson's Board and in the examination of tenders Estate on Walker Street, for sale to when they are finally received." genuine home builders and allow them to arrange their own finance, not necessarily through the commission? EXPENDITURE, ABORIGINAL HEALTH Answers:- PROGRAMME Mr. Bums, pursuant to notice, asked The (1) "(a) With priority 13; without Minister for Health,- priority 37; (b) 26." With reference to a paragraph under the (2) "A contract for 10 houses was let heading "Health Department Special on 16th August 1973. The time nominated Standing Fund" in the Auditor-Gener,al's by the contractor in his tender will ter­ minate on April 18, 1974, subject to such Report, which states that $126,000 was extensions as may be approved pursuant received during the year from the Com­ to the conditions of contract." monwealth Assistance to Aborigines Fund to finance an Aboriginal Health Pro­ (3) "The Commission has 6 sites on gramme and expenditure for 1972-73 the developed portion of the estate which totalled $6,939, what was the reason for are not committed in contracts to date and the short spending in the fund, what tenders will be called for houses thereon. amount was spent in previous years and Action will also be taken to survey some what are the aims and activities of this further sites on the perimeter roads and Aboriginal Health Programme? subject to availability of Council water and sewerage services tenders will be called for another group of houses. The Answer:- Commission went through a great deal "The Honourable Member would be of very difficult proceedings in order to aware that the development of any health acquire Stevenson's Estate as a matter of programme must be preceded by a full forward planning provision for its future in-depth study of objectives and is cor:­ operations in Maryborough and it is ditional on the availability of the appropri­ regretted that sites cannot be made avail­ ate staff. The mere despatch of Common­ able other than for the purposes of the wealth monies to my Department for State Housing Acts." funding the Aboriginal Health Programme does not produce the planning nor the staff for its development. Whilst the sum ADMINISTRATION BLOCK EXTENSION, of $6,939 was spent in the financial year MARYBOROUGH HOSPITAL 1972-73, an amount of $77,460 has been expended to date in the current financial Mr. Alison, pursuant to notice, asked The year. The aim of the Aboriginal Health Minister for Health,- Programme is to develop a campaign using (1) What is the position in regard to preventive medicine principles to reduce planning for the upward extension of two mortality and morbidity rates from selected floors on top of the existing administration disorders to general levels and to improve block of the Maryborough Hospital Board? community health through primary health education.'' (2) Will he give an assurance that planning will be speeded up so that con­ struction of the urgently required additions will be commenced not later than 1974-75? CHIMNEY EMISSIONS, QUEENSLAND GLASS MANUFACTURING Co., SOUTH Answers:- BRISBANE (1) "Approval was granted in May 1973 Mr. Bums, pursuant to notice, asked The to the Maryborough Hospitals Board to Minister for Health,- have working drawings and specifications (1) Has any investigation been under­ prepared by its architects for the rede­ taken into the smoke emanating from the velopment of various areas of the Mary­ two chimneys of the Queensland Glass borough Hospital, including the upward Manufacturing Company or similar chim­ extension of the Administration Block. As neys in the area near William Jolly Bridge? soon as these documents are received from the Board, early action will be taken to (2) How many complaints have been have them reviewed in the normal way received in relation to the smoke and dust by the Department of Works." from these chimneys? Questions Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice 2049

( 3) What action has been taken to (3) Is this a continuance of the pattern relieve local residents, and persons com­ whereby Commonwealth Ministers give muting to the city, from this unnecessary contradictory views in order to confuse health hazard? workers, trade union officials and pro­ fessional men in order to beguile them into Answers:- surrendering to Canberra a power which is momentous and gravely disadvantageous ( 1) "Yes." to all who work? (2) "Six complaints in the last three years." Answer:- (3) "Stack tests were carried out in (1 to 3) "Yes. On page 1948 of the August, 1973. Both dust and smoke were Senate Hansard for November 20, 1973, within the prescribed standards of the Clean the Commonwealth Attorney-General, Air Regulations. The premises will be kept Senator Murphy, said it was his view under regular surveillance." that it would be a mis-use of the ordinary connotations of the word 'price' to extend it to remuneration for regular employ­ ment which is normally and more properly called 'wages'. This is a contradiction of LANDERS CREEK BRIDGE, AYR-DALBEG earlier statements by the Prime Minister ROAD and other Ministers. This would appear to Mr. Bird, pursuant to notice asked The be typical of the uncertainty that surrounds Minister for Mines,- ' the referendum questions on prices and incomes as they have been proposed by (1) Is he aware that the condition of the Federal Government. One could only the bridge over Landers Creek on the Ayr­ speculate on the reasons why the Federal Dalbeg road 1s deteriorating rapidly? Government has allowed this uncertainty to exist and in fact, to grow. But in the light (2) As it is anticipated that the amount of past experience as far as the present of. sugar cane hauled over this bridge from Federal Government is concerned, I would M11laroo and Dalbeg will increase con­ not doubt that contradictory views are siderably, will he give favourable con­ expressed for the deliberate purpose of sideration to the construction of a new confusing voters, particularly wage and bridge at the earliest possible time? salary earners in the hope that they might give the Federal Government the extra­ Answers:- ordinary powers which it seeks on Decem­ ber 8. I cannot find any evidence to sug­ (1) :'The timber bridge over Landers gest that the Federal Government will clear Cr<:ek IS no~ over twenty years old and up this matter in the minds of the Aus­ mamtenance IS becoming a problem." tralian people before they vote on Saturday week." (2) "With an anticipated increase in can~ haulage, consideration will be given t? 1ts replacement at the earliest possible t1me but a firm programme for future years cannot be prepared until details of NEW TowER BLOCK, SouTHPORT HOSPITAL the new CommonweaHh Aid Roads Act are known." Mr. D'Arcy, pursuant to notice, asked The Treasurer,- How much money has he allocated in the current Budget for the building or STATEMENTS BY PRIME MINISTER AND design of the proposed tower block at the Southport Hospital? SENATOR MURPHY ON PRICE CONTROL ~· Lane, pursuant to notice, asked The M1mster for Justice,- Answer:- "On the 1973-74 Local Bodies Loan (1) Is he aware that on November 20 Program the Gold Coast Hospitals Board the _Comm~mwealth Attorney-General con­ was given tentative authority to raise tradicted h!s Prime Minister concerning the $51,000 debenture loan and $149,000 use to wh1ch controls over prices can be put? Treasury loan towards the cost of con­ struction of a new multi-storey block at (2) As the Prime Minister has strongly Southport Hospital. These tentative allo­ put forward the view that price control cations are subject to confirmation follow­ can encompass wages, is he aware of ing the submission of working documents Senator Murphy's claim that it does not and a satisfactory forward construction program. The Board borrowed $5 000 do so and that it only covers contracts for during 1972-73 for planning of 'the specific services rendered? project." 65 2050 Questions Upon Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Upon Notice

RESIGNATION OF MEDICAL STAFF, SALE OF SUBSTANDARD CAR ACCESSORIES SOUTHPORT HosPITAL Mr. K. J. Hooper, pursuant to notice, Mr. D'Arcy, pursuant to notice, asked The asked The Minister for Transport,- Minister for Health,- ( 1) Has his attention been drawn to an (1) With reference to his Answer to my article in The Sunday Mail of November' Question on the Southport Hospital, has 11, attributed to the Chairman of the his department adequately covered the gap R.A.C.Q., in which he claimed that left by the resignations of the medical Queensland was a dumping ground for staff? sub-standard car accessories? If so, has he instituted any inquiry or has he any (2) As the staff is working longer hours knowledge that the statement is correct? than those at other hospitals, does he attribute these regular resignations to over­ (2) What action is to be taken to pro­ work and lack of equipment? tect motor vehicle owners from having sub-standard accessories installed in their cars? Answers:­ (1) "Yes." Answer:- (1 (2) "No." and 2) "Yes. As most Honourable Members will be aware the Traffic Act was amended in 1971 to specifically give a head of power to prohibit the sale of LAND ADMINISTRATION COMMISSION equipment for motor vehicles which does not meet prescribed standards. So far as PROJECT, MUSGRAVE HILL, SOUTHPORT road safety is concerned, any specific com­ Mr. D'Arcy, pursuant to notice, asked The plaint brought to my attention will be Minister for Lands,- investigated. As in the case of a type Further to my several representations on of windscreen glass which apparently did behalf of residents of Southport regarding not meet determined standards I took the completion of the Land Administration immediate action to raise this matter Commission project at Kumbari A venue, through the Australian Transport Advisory Musgrave Hill, Southport, when will the Council with the result that the import project be ready for sale? of glass which does not meet national safety standards has been banned. Gener­ ally, buyers should look for the mark of Answer:- the Standards Association of Australia as "The development of this project is well a safeguard in buying car accessories, but in hand and it is expected that the work I must point out that not all accessories will be sufficiently advanced by about the are subject to national standards nor would end of the year to allow survey of the they affect the roadworthiness of a motor allotments involved to be carried out. If vehicle." my Department can keep to this pro­ gramme, it is anticipated that the blocks will be able to be offered for sale early FIRE PRECAUTIONS IN STORAGE OF next year." CELLULAR PLASTICS ]Vir. Leese, pursuant to notice, asked The Minister for Health,- FIRE-ESCAPE FACILITIES IN NIGHT CLUBS. ( 1) Has the attention of his Department BRISBANE AND GOLD COAST , been drawn to the serious hazards of Mr. K. J. Hooper, pursuant to notice, plastic when involved in fire and, if so, asked The Minister for Development,- by whom? ( 1) What are the details of fire-escape (2) What action has the Department facilities at each of the licensed night taken to date? clubs in the Brisbane and Gold Coast areas? Answer:- ( 1 and 2) "The Division of Industrial (2) When was the last check made by Medicine of the State Department of police officers, building inspectors and/or Health has been aware of the toxic features fire brigade officers as to the efficiency of modern plastics which may be generated and good working order of fire-escape in fire since the matter was raised in exits in the clubs? professional literature. The Department (3) Which clubs have been inspected has had correspondence from the Pine in the last six months? Rivers Fire Brigade Board on two occa­ sions and the Queensland Country Fire Brigade Officers Association Union of Answer:- Employees. The Pine Rivers Fire Brigade ( 1 to 3) "The information is being Board was advised that the matter was obtained after which I shall advise the one for Fire Department policy. The Honourable Member accordingly." Honourable Member was advised by my Questions Without Notice [28 NoVEMBER 1973] Questions Without Notice 2051

colleague the Minister for Development In furtherance of this arrangement, the in an answer on August 8, 1973, that Commissioner for Transport is in constant the matter of fire risk involved in the contact with the Master Carriers' Association, storage of cellular plastics has already and the freight forwarders, wholesalers and been brought to the notice of the Chief agents supplying northern centres in par­ Inspector of Factories and Shops for atten­ ticular. Any difficulty in the onward trans­ tion by inspectors when visiting premises port of goods because of railway inability to where such material is stored. I am handle them will be specially examined advised that the State Fire Services Council under the present circumstances. of Queensland has forwarded a circular to a 11 Fire Brigade Boards pointing out I want to stress, however, that priority the fire hazards of cellular plastics." consideration will be given to clearing the rail backlog rather than allow the permit-free carrying of foodstuffs not normally conveyed by rail, which would only result in unneces­ PROPOSED RISE IN BREAD PRICES; sary congestion of the roads. In any c~se, there is insufficient road-vehicle carrymg SUBMISSIONS TO PRICES JUSTIFICA­ capacity to extend the concession to ~t;:lbrace TION TRIBUNAL the carriage of any and all commodities. Mr. Leese, pursuant to notice, asked The Minister for Justice,- There is a multitude of reasons for the shortage of goods, not the least of which .is Will the State Government be making the incidence of industrial stoppages m any submission to the Commonwealth southern States, and, on behalf of the Govern­ ~rices Justification Tribunal at the hearing ment I am most anxious that no blame can mto proposed bread-price rises? be placed upon the transport instrumental­ ities in this State, both rail and road. Answer:- Mr. Sherrington: Not bad for an answer to HNo." a question without notice! Mr. SPEAKER: Order! For the information QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE of the honourable member for Salisbury, who was not in the House at the time, I point SHORTAGE OF COMMODITIES AND FOODSTUFFS out that yesterday I issued a general warning NORTH QUEENSLAND; FREE PERMITS FOR ' that in future no interjections will be allowed ROAD TRANSPORT during question time. That applies to him, just as it does to every other honourable Mr. BIRD: I refer the Minister for Trans­ member. port to my remarks during the debate on the Railway and Transport Estimates relative to Mr. SHERRINGTON: I rise to a point of the shortage of goods in North Queensland order. and . also to his reply. As these shortage~ contmue, I now ask him: Will he restate his Mr. SPEAKER: Order! That is a warning. assurance that free permits will be issued There is no point of order. for the conveyance of goods by road? Mr. SHERRINGTON: Mr. Speaker, I Mr. K. W. HOOPER: Yes, and I want to suggest that you hear my point of order further assure the honoumble member and before deciding whether or not it is valid. other honourable members who have expressed concern in this matter that, from Mr. SPEAKER: Very well, but state it the point of view of transport, there is no shortly. reason why goods should be in short supply in North Queensland. Mr. SHERRINGTON: I accept that you made a ruling that there are to be no inter­ Mr. Sherrington: You just happen to have jections during question time. However, I the answer. also draw your attention to the fact that the question asked by the honourable member Mr. SPEAKER: Order! for Burdekin was without notice and that the Minister immediately rose to his feet and read Mr. K. W. HOOPER: As I said previously, a prepared answer. this shortage is not peculiar to North Queens­ land, but, unfortunately, there has been Mr. SPEAKER: Order! delay in the despatch and transit of goods due to industrial stoppages. The Railway Mr. SHERRINGTON: That is a reflection Department is making every effort to clear on the intelligence of the members of this the huge backlog, and the Commissioner for House. Transport is waiving permit fees for the road transport of "urgently needed goods". This Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I now warn the special treatment will be extended to those honourable member under Standing OTder commodities over the next few weeks to help 123A that if he interjects again this morn­ clear the goods before Christmas. ing, he will be sent from the Chamber. 2052 Questions Without Notice [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Questions Without Notice

COMMONWEALTH SOCIAL SECURITY DEPART­ answers that either reflected on honourable MENT BAN ON RELEASE OF INFORMATION members or were untrue. The Minister has just said that Mr. Hayden has moved his Mr. ARMSTRONG: I ask the Minister for home to Canberra. This is completely untrue, Tourism, Sport and Welfare Services: Has and I ask that it be struck from the record he seen an article in yesterday afternoon's of debates accordingly. "Telegraph" wherein Mr. Hayden, Common­ wealth Minister for Social Security, is Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I ask the Minister reported as having said that the reason for to accept the denial of the Leader of the the ban on supplying information to the Opposition. Queensland department is that there are no safeguards in that department? If so, can he Mr. HERBERT: I am only too happy to assure the House that the statement is accept his assurance. incorrect? The point that was made about the police is completely untrue. They do not intrude Mr. HERRERT: I read the statement with into the department in Brisbane. Most hon­ some alarm, because Mr. Hayden must know ourable members know that when we get a that we have the necessary safeguards. welfare case in far-distant areas it is impos­ Actually, they are embodied in the legislation, sible to handle it from Brisbane, or from as I said here yesterday. Apart from the where our officers throughout Queensland normal provisions of the Public Service Act, are stationed. In those cases, people in need officers of the Department of Children's go either to the local court-house or to Services take a special oath of secrecy, a the police station and are given immediate breach of which renders them liable to fines emergent relief. The situation as Mr. Hayden of up to $'1,000 and/ or a term of imprison­ sees -it is that someone who is starving and ment. However, there has never been any reports to the Georgetown police, for necessity to implement those provisions example, should wait until we send a cer­ because the officers of the department are tificate to Canberra for consideration and hand-picked and are thus trustworthy. They a report. This is completely stupid. Under resented very much Mr. Hayden's comment the relief assistance provisions Queensland that they are untrustworthy. During my police are allowed to make payments to period as Minister, there has never been a people who require them, but the situation case in which we have had to investigate a that has now arisen is that any Queensland matter of this nature. country member of Parliament who wants Mr. Hayden went even further, and I a rail pass for a pensioner can no longer think it is almost incredible that he, as an simply write in and quote the pension ex-policeman, should have cast the slur he number. Passes will not be issued in those did on the Queensland Police Force. Of circumstances. course, it is part of La:bor's policy of "knock the coppers", but for a former member of Mr. Bromley: Why don't you sit down? the Queensland Police Force to do it is quite incredible. The only reason for it that Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I warn the hon­ I can think of is that since he moved his ourable member for South Brisbane under home from Brisbane to Canberra he has Standing Order 123A. forgotten what happens in Queensland. Mr. Marginson interjected. Mr. K. J. Hooper: That's a lie. Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I also warn the Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I warn the hon­ honourable member for Wolston under ourable member for Archerfield under Stand­ Standing Order 123A. ing Order 123A. Mr. HERBERT: The Commonwealth Mr. HERBERT: We get welfare cases department, on Mr. Hayden's instructions, in Queensland at distances further from specifically refuses to tell us whether or Brisbane than Canberra is. not so-and-so with pension number so-and­ Mr. K. J. Hooper: It's a lie. so is in fact a pensioner. That is all we w~nt to know but the head of our Relief Mr. SPEAKER: Order! I heard the hon­ Assistance Br~nch will not be given th_e ourable member for Archerfield repeat the required information over the phone. T~1s words, "It's a lie." Under the provisions means that if any country member applies of Standing Order 123A, I now ask him to to me for a pass and the matter g?es to withdraw from the Chamber. the department, it must be accompamed by a certificate from the Commonwealth Depart­ Whereupon the honourable member for ment of Social Services that the applicant Archerfield withdrew from the Chamber. is in fact a pensioner. Mr. HOUSTON: Mr. Speaker, I rise to In these circumstances, I am certainly a point of order. Yesterday you drew the grateful that I am not a country ~em~er attention of the House to your ruling on of Parliament. The problems that will anse interjections during question time, and you in this instance are enormous, and problems assured me and other honourable members, in other welfare fields will be even worse. that you vJould not allow Ministers to give A person who is starving will not want to Questions Without Notice [28 NoVEMBER 1973] Questions Without Notice 2053 wait a fortnight while some public servant RoUTE OF PROPOSED INLAND HIGHWAY, in Canberra makes up his mind whether GOLD COAST or not he qualifies for assistance. Mr. HINZE: I ask the Minister for Mines and Main Roads: What is the latest informa­ INCREASE IN BUILDING SOCIETY INTEREST tion concerning the inland highway at the RATES Gold Coast, particularly as it refers to Fleay's Fauna Reserve? Mr. CASEY: I ask the Minister for Works and Housing: With reference to his statement in Mr. CAMM: As the honourable member today's Press that he has approved an increase knows, some time ago the Main Roads in building society interest rates following a Department investigated various locations for deputation to him from representatives of hous­ a highway in this area. The one suggested by officers of the Main Roads Department ing and building societies, did he also receive was in close proximity to the fauna reserve any representatives of the borrowers, who are conducted by Mr. David Fleay, even though, scratching to pay off the homes in which they between that suggested highway and the want to rear their families and are faced with reserve there was already in existence a road increased monthly repayments, or is this that is being used. Where the highway was another instance where the finger can be to cross Tallebudgera Creek, it took in one pointed at him and he can be accused of very small section of the reserve. bias in his administration because he is a As the honourable member knows, there director of a building society? was a public outcry because of the disturbance that could be suffered by the animals and Mr. HODGES: The answer is "No". other fauna in the reserve. Following a discussion among Mr. Fleay, the honourable NOISE NUISANCE FROM SPEEDWAY MEETINGS, member representing the area and Main BRISBANE SHOWGROUNDS Roads Department officers, Mr. Fleay indi­ cated that he was prepared to dedicate that Mr. F. P. MOORE: I ask the Minister for area to the Government in perpetuity. The Health: Is he aware of the distress and noise Main Roads Department then decided to nuisance caused by speedway meetings at the investigate, or adopt, the alternative route, Exhibition Grounds to patients at the Royal which would cost the taxpayers in excess of $700,000 more than the one that was Brisbane Hospital, and what can he do planned to traverse the area near the Fleay about this nuisance? Fauna Reserve. Mr. TOOTH: I must confess that I have I am rather loath to implement a decision had no representations from any source under which taxpayers will be required to regarding distress at Royal Brisbane Hos­ pay an additional $700,000 and then immedi­ pital caused by speedway activities on ately find that the area in the reserve could be opened up for subdivision, and that it Saturday nights. I have therefore given the would be possible to cash in on a situation matter no consideration. However, if the that had been created. When Mr. Fleay has honourable member can specify some details made some worth-while approaches in respect and let me know what is troubling him I of the final use of this land, a firm decision will give the matter thought and see if some will be made by the department as to the alleviation can be arranged. location of the highway.

NON-AVAILABILITY OF DRUGS, TOWNSVILLE NEWSPAPER STATEMENT BY MEMBER HosPITAL FOR ROCKHAMPTON REFLECTING ON CHAIR Mr. F. P. MOORE': I ask the Minister for Health: Following a previous question by me Mr. SPEAKER: Order! It has been brought on the non-availability of drugs at the Towns­ to my notice that the Rockhampton "Morn­ ville General Hospital and his reply that ing Bulletin" of 23 November 1973 reports no patient has been unable to obtain blood­ the honourable member for Rockhampton pressure tablets, if I produce evidence that as making certain statements, under the headline, "Wright speaks on privileges, pro­ on several occasions a full supply of tablets cedures." I do not propose to quote the has not been available to an individual, will report in full. I shall refer only to that part he investigate the matter and have such that concerns the Chair. I may say that inconvenience rectified? I regard the honourable member's statements in a very serious light. Mr. TOOTH: If the honourable member I inform the House that this matter will can produce to me a clear statement of not be debated. All that I seek from the fact, I shall certainly investigate the matter. honourable member is a withdrawal and Nothing that any honourable member an apology. I repeat, there will be no debate. approaches me about goes without full I do not propose to widen the matter in investigation. any way. 2054 Naming of Member [28 NovEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest

I shall now qume a portion of what Rockhampton. Speaking candidly, I am appears in the Rockhampton newspaper. It always ready to accept a statement made says, inter alia- by an honourable member in this Chamber " The rulings of the Chair need to be in the heat of debate. I myself, on several seriously investigated,' he said. occasions in my 26 years in this House, " 'It would seem the traditional indepen­ have become heated in debate. However. dence of the speakership is being eroded it is dear that t!his was a statement issued because of the belligerent attitude of the to the newspaper, and one that was no Premier, who continually pressurises the doubt considered by the honourable mem­ Speaker into compromising situations.' ber. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I uphold the action that you have taken in naming the "Mr. Wright said 'Hansard' recorded honourable member. You have extended to the vitriolic attacks and personal abuse him the right to unequivocally withdraw and Government members had launched on apologise. As Leader of the House, I extend the Opposition, yet these attacks were to the honourable member again his r.ight given the 'blind eye' by the Chair." to unequivocaay withdraw his statement and I have been in this House for 16 years, apologise to Mr. Speaker. and this is the first occasion on which it has come to my notice that a member has Mr. WRIGHT: Mr. Speaker, I witJhdraw, gone outside the House and attacked the and I apologise. Chair through the Press. Naturally, not Mr. SPEAKER: Very well. The apology is because it is a reflection on me------oi accepted. could not care less about myself-'but because it reflects on my office, I resent it very much. All that I ask now of the honourable mem­ ber is that he withdraw that statement and SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDERS apologise to me; and, when he returns to APPROPRIATION BILL (No. 2) Rockbampton, I hope he will get in touch with the editor of "The Morning Bulletin" Hon. Sir GORDON CHALK (Lockyer­ and ask him to give his withdrawal and Deputy Premier): I move- apology the same prominence as was given "That so much of the Standing Orders to his statement. If the honourable member be suspended as would otherwise prevent does that, then, so far as I am concerned, the the receiving of Resolutions from the Com­ matter will rest there. I now ask the hon­ mittees of Supply and Ways and Means ourable member for a withdrawal and an on the same day as they shall have passed apology. in those Committees and the passing of an Appropriation Bill through all its stages Mr. WRIGHT: Mr. Speaker,-- in one day." Mr. SPEAKER: Order! There will be no Motion agreed to. debate on the matter. Mr. WRIGHT: I do not intend to debate the matter, Mr. Speaker. However, I point MATTERS OF PUBLIC INTEREST out that any withdrawal by me will be made only at your request. I stick by what I REORGANISATION OF ELECTRICITY SUPPLY said, but, at your request, I will withdraw. ADMINISTRATION, FAR NORTH QUEENSLAND Mr. SPEAKER: Order! There will be no Mr. R. JONES (Cairns) (12.15 p.m.): The qualification. The honourable member will future reorganisation of electricity supply withdraw and apologise. This is his last and distribution in Queensland, set down opportunity to do so. for 1975, is causing public concern, and Mr. WRIGHT: Again in accordance with I direct my arguments today particularly your request-and only in accordance with to how that reorganisation will affect Cairns, your request-! withdraw. the Cairns Regional Electricity Board area and North Queensland. NAMING OF MEMBER Because of the doubts that have been created, the speculation that has arisen, and Mr. SPEAKER: I do not propose to the fears that have been engendered among accept the honourable member's conditional employees and citizens alike, and because withdrawal. I shall now deal with him under the destiny of the areas involved, the cities, Standing Order 124, which provides that if a member defies the authority of the Chair, the towns and the people of Queensland, is the Speaker has the right to name him. inevitably wrapped up in the decisions that There is no necessity to issue a warning will be made, my purpose today is to give under Standing Order 123A. I now name a resume of the formation and activities of the honourable member for Rockhampton. the Cairns Regional Electricity Board. My information is that the seminar set down for Hon. Sir GORDON CHALK (Lockyer­ 6 and 7 December is probably designed only Deputy Premier) (12.13 p.m.): I fully realise to receive and discuss a report, the decision the seriousness of this situation. My atten­ on which is a fait accompli. Therefore, l tion had already been drawn to the state­ wish to acquaint the Minister with the facts, ment made by the honourable member for and also to detail for the record and discuss Matters of Public Interest [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest 2055

info~matively the premises that I put forward. proposal were stated by Mr. Neil Smith, I retterate that my argument is founded not the Commissioner for Electricity Supply on rumour but on direct information that and a member of the Cairns Regional Elec­ I have received. tricity Board, in an article in "The Cairns The Cairns Electric Authority commenced Post" on 9 May 1964. Those are the supply in 1925. The first board, known as arguments that were used in 1964. They appear to be the same arguments that are the Barro~ . Falls Hydro Electricity Board, and compnsmg representatives of local auth­ now used for the formation of one board in orities concerned, was formed in 1930. In North Queensland. In the opinion of those 1945, the Cairns Regional Electricity Board in Far North Queensland, the Northern Elec­ tric Authority has been a flop. The Cairns wa~ established and becao.ne the model upon whtch all other boards in Queensland were Regional Electricity Board pioneered the first formed-an outstanding result of the vision 132kV transmission line between Cairns, of Far Northern local authorities and the Innisfail, Kareeya and Townsville, which efficiency of the Cairns board's administra­ enabled the two southern boards to receive tion over almost half a century. the benefits of a stable hydro-power supply. . The Barron Falls Hydro Electricity Board The Cairns Regional Electricity Board pwneered the first hydro-power installation pioneered the first single-wire earth return in Queensland with the construction of the scheme in Australia to bring supply to its Barron Falls Power Station in 1930. This rural consumers. This method of distribu­ station supplied cheap power to many of the tion has been copied by many other first rural consumers in Queensland and authorities throughout Australia to supply proved a model of efficiency. thousands of rural consumers who would otherwise not have had the benefits of elec­ The Cairns Regional Electricity Board, in tricity upon their farms for many years. 1957, completed construction of the Tully Falls Hydro Power Station to meet increased In 1966 the Cairns Regional Electricity demand and further expand into the rural Board became the first regional board in areas, so that at present 97 per cent of the Queensland (other than the S.E.A.Q.) to population of the Cairns board's area are adopt live-line methods of line maintenance supplied with electricity. In 1963, the Cairns and inspection to give its consumers far Regional Electricity Board completed the greater continuity of supply, free as far as B~r_ron .Gorge Po:ver Station to supply elec­ possible from interruptions for maintenance tnctty mto a gnd reaching to Townsville and breakdown outages. The board has and Mackay. Had these schemes been expanded its activities in this field to become retained for the demand of the Cairns the largest live-line maintenance section in region alone, the tariffs for electricity con­ Queensland. sumed within the region could have been The staff of the Cairns Regional Electricity reduced to an extremely low level. The Board and the people of Far North Queens­ formation of the Northern Electric Author­ land feel that, in view of the achievements ~ty to control and supply all power generated of the board and its predecessors for almost m the North prevented this, and although 50 years, the board must retain its autonomy the result was a levelling out of tariffs for as an electricity distribution authority. It has the three boards concerned. it has been to the experience of serving with distinction a the detriment of the Cairns board and its vast majority of people in a very large and consumers. difficult region that is unique in Australia. A table dated 1 December 1964 showed It would be a retrograde step to lose much that the Northern Electric Author,ity rate of the foresight and experience of such a per unit for Cairns was .825c, for Towns­ competent administration and staff by cen­ ville 1.30833c, and for Mackay 1.4916c. tralising control in a much larger area. As at 1 Se~temb~r 1973, the cost per unit Mr. B. Wood: We get the impression that was 1.146c m Catrns, 1.435c in Townsville the Minister will do what his officers want. and 1.317c in Mackay. Of course in th~ Capricornia area the new rate is' 1.435c. Mr. R. JONES: This seems to be what That means that the total increase in Cairns it is. and this is the reason for my submission. over that ~eriod is .321c, or 38.909 per I am giving the Minister information that cent, and m Townsville the increase is will be of assistance to him in assessing .12667c, or 9.682 per cent. The decrease the over-all situation. in Mackay is .1746c or 11.709 per cent. These percentage variations in the cost of This loss would undoubtedly be felt in electricity supplied by the three boards as the possible weakening of local authority a result of the over-all levelling out of tariff representation upon any board of larger area benefits, one of the alleged benefits of N.E.A. and in the natural wastage of staff, wh~ control of generation since 1964, show who would seek other avenues of employment go~ the short end of the stick-the people of in the Cairns area if they were faced with Catrns. the necessity to move with their families to another area of control. Of course, there were headlines in the local Press stating that the formation of the Mr. McKechnie: The honourable member new authority would mean future savings in for Barron River evidently has no confidence production costs, and the advantages of the in the Cairns area, as he assumes Cairns 2056 Matters of Public Interest [28 NovEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest is not suitable for the headquarters of the committee would not be very expert in new region, whereas it could be depending matters relating to distribution of electricity on the decision of the people of North to consumers in the Cairns Regional Elec­ Queensland. tricity Board region. It is usual for the Government, when setting Mr. R. JONES: I am very pleased to hear up an expert committee to give it advice, the Minister give that reassurance. There to select people who are expert in the field will be no transfers away from Cairns, Mr. on which they are to advise the Government. Minister? In this case that was not done. As a Mr. McKechnie: The staff numbers should comparison it could be stated that a trans­ remain the same in Cairns, or possibly port expert committee might use experts increase, whether it is selected as the head­ from the railways to advise the airlines on quarters or not. how to organise their business. Far North Quensland people, Mr. Mr. B. Wood: It is going to be changed, Minister, feel very strongly that the com­ anyway. You admit this. mittee-- Mr; R. .JONES: The only disappointing Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! I do feature of this-- not propose to again draw the honourable Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr. Lickiss): member's attention to the fact that he must Order! I hope somebody will involve the address the Chair. Chair in this conversation. Mr. R. JONES: We believe that the com­ Mr. R. JONES: It is extremely disappoint­ mittee should have had representation from ing to find that the Cairns board has not even the Cairns board and availed itself of the been consulted regarding any future change proven experience and efficiency of the in control of Queensland distribution. board's administration officers, who on these criteria are second to none in the whole Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Would electrical industry in Queensland. the honourable member please address the (Time expired.) Chair? Mr. R. JONES: In effect, we have been ALP. POLICIES ON MoRAL ISSUES left in the dark, and for that reason are called "the mushroom club". Mr. FRAWLEY (Murrumba) (12.25 p.m.): I wish to speak on a matter that is perhaps Mr. McKechnie: The board will be con­ not of interest to everybody but will, I am sulted on 6 and 7 December. sure, be of great interest to those thousands of mothers who have young sons and Mr. R. JONES: After the recommendations daughters. I have been threatened by some of the investigating committee have been influential members of the ALP. in my brought down. That is what is irritating. In electorate that I would be well advised to its whole set-up the committee was apparently discontinue my efforts to point out the incon­ alienated against Cairns. No-one directly sistencies of the AL.P ., such as condoning involved with Cairns was appointed to it. drug-taking and pornographic literature, Mr. McKechnie: One of the members of advising people to break laws, advocating C.R.E.B. was involved. Mr. Murray, the against law and order, and, more importantly, Commissioner, is a member of the Cairns working hand in glove with socialists. How­ board. ever, I am ignoring all the threats I have Mr. R. JONES: He is also-- received and I throw out the challenge that I will continue opposing the A.LP. or any Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! The other body that attempts to destroy our honourable member will please address the Western culture and the Christian way of Chair. life. People do not want their children's morals corrupted or their way of life Mr. R. JONES: Mr. Murray, the former disturbed. chairman of the Northern Electric Authority, As a Government, we should support and was based in Townsville. What con­ encourage the highest possible standards of cerns the people in Cairns is that morality and decency in writing, reading, the committee reporting on the proposed film and television production and viewing, changes was initially set up to advise the photography, advertising, entertainment and State Electricity Commission on the re-organ­ commercial display. People should be isation of the power-generation aspect of informed of the harm that is being caused the electricity industry in Queensland, and the to the nation and the individual citizen, persons appointed were selected on their especially the adolescent citizen, by the expert knowledge of this part of the industry. undermining of private and public moral The only non-generation personnel on the standards. We should strengthen the present committee were officials of the State Elec­ laws relating to the publication of obscene tricity Commission and the Brisbane City and indecent matter and the screening of Council Electricity Department, and it is films of questionable value. We must sup­ patently obvious that this section of the port the rigid enforcement of the law in Matters of Public Interest [28 NovEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest 2057 these matters and amend the law where it is Mr. Wright: Have you ever driven at considered necessary or desirable. By defini­ more than 60 miles an hour? tion, society is "The customs and organisa­ tion of a civilised nation." All societies have Mr. FRAWLEY: Plenty of times-at Lake­ a moral code expressed in law, and the moral side Racing Circuit, where I raced on more code expressed in law in Australia is a than one occasion, and also at the Gold Christian ethic, which I very much doubt is Coast Raceway, where I raced a dragster. understood by many members of the Federal A.L.P. All Christians agree on the Christian Mr. F. P. Moore: I bet you lost. ethic, irrespective of the differences in their method of worship. Mr. FRAWLEY: Of course I lost. Recently we have read and heard of some Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr. Lickiss): of the most shocking and degrading crimes Order! The honourable member will address committed in this country, with rape standing ilie Chair. very high on the list. The reason for this high incidence of crimes is, I believe, the Mr. FRAWLEY: During the Springbok permissiveness of society, which, as everyone tour in Queensland, the honourable member knows, has been advocated by the Federal for Everton and Senator Georges squatted in A.L.P. the streets and disrupted traffic. I did hear The A.L.P. is very inconsistent. It wants that the police had to engage the services of improved conditions in prisons and mental a crane to shift Senator Georges. hospitals, yet advocates the smoking of "pot". These events all typify the type of dangerous Dr. Moss Cass, a Victorian member of the thinking and nationally disastrous attitudes of House of Representatives, said that he had the A.L.P. This Government, under the smoked marijuana on several occasions and Premier, has a clear record of resistance to enjoyed it. Had he been caught, of course, those attempting to downgrade Queensland he would have been liable to a $2,000 fine and its people by upsetting the delicate or two years in gaol. He also said that balance which has made possible our much marijuana was a harmless sedative that envied way of life. should be legalised. He made those state­ ments at a Young Labor conference in Vic­ At last year's annual conference of the toria and repeated them to the Sydney "Daily Young Labor Association, which was held Telegraph". What a shocking statement to in Brisbane, a motion was carried to the a group of young people, especially by a effect that the convention expressed its sup­ man who should be setting a real example port for the legalisation of the use of to the youth of this country. marijuana. This shows how some unscrup­ As well, Mr. Hayden said to the Mel­ ulous people have managed to brain-wash bourne "Age" that he would recommend the the Labor Party's young supporters. abolition of penalties for drug-taking and Many people wish to preserve decent strongly criticised those middle-aged groups, community standards, but they are silenced as he called them, in our society who by the arguments of those who call for a condemn people for taking drugs. permissive society. Man is a social being, I believe that most Australians today are he needs to live in society, and he has a very concerned about the way this country responsibility to that society. is heading. There is a powerful and deter­ mined pressure group at work in the Labor Mr. Davis: Didn't your publicity officer Party, which is advocating open-go legisla­ advocate the smoking of marijuana? tion. The Labor Party desires to break down those Australian standards and values which Mr. FRAWLEY: That is completely have made us a country of which we are untrue. The phrase "permissive society" is justly proud. Open-go legislation on moral a seductive one; "permission" always sounds issues is Labor's aim. Without laws and much more attractive than "prohibition". respect for them, our civilisation would Living in a permissive society means broadly quickly crumble to the level of the primitive that people can do as they like-they can jungle, and survival of the fittest would be smoke "pot", take acid and progress to the only standard recognised. Intelligent "fixes" of heroin, go to bed with members planning and community effort would become of either sex, refuse to work, and renounce impossible as powerful, ruthless minorities this "wicked" world and all its ways. This took control and plundered at their whim. is what members of a permissive society Dr. Cairns, in an address to students at feel they are entitled to do. Melbourne University, said that he hoped Mr. Lane: No wonder they have been that authority had had its day. He also said, rejected at the polls. "I believe a citizen has the right to break an objectionable law." Mr. FRAWLEY: Quite true. It is difficult Mr. Whitlam advised young men in the to remember a time when the young gener­ armed forces to disobey military orders, and ation did not rebel against the "don'ts" of the A.L.P. even endorsed a draft-dodger for their elders. However, today we do not see the last Federal election. the mere repetition of the behaviour of 2058 Matters of Public Interest [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest

earlier generations. The permissive society FINANCIAL AID FOR PRIMARY-SCHOOL SPORTING is not one in which people merely say it ACTIVITIES is all right for them to do whatever they like within the limits of the existing society. Mr. BOUSEN (Toowoomba North) (12.34 Rather, the attitude is that permissionists p.m.): I wish to speak about a matter that must be free to do exactly what they want, concerns the future of school-children, whether inside or outside existing society. namely, financial assistance for primary­ school sporting activities. It was my inten­ fVIr. Davis: What have you done about tion to speak on this matter during either the Redcliffe Gardens Estate? the Budget debate or the debate on the Estimates presented by the Minister for Mr. FRAWLEY: I will take care of that Tourism, Sport and Welfare Services. How­ in my own good time. ever, I was prevented from doing so by cir­ cumstances beyond my control. It has been claimed to be right and proper that those who wish to live a permis­ When introducing his Estimates, the Min­ sive life should have it made possible for ister said that $500,000 would be made them to do so by other members of society available for sporting activities. However, providing what is necessary. Each person at no stage did he say that any part of claims a right to do what he wants, irrespec­ that sum would be channelled into the pro­ tive of the distress and injury that it may motion of sporting activities at pr,imary cause tc cthers. Thus there is a one-way schools. The failure to grant money for this permissiveness. This applies whether what purpose casts a grave reflection on all those is at issue is having a "pop" festival lasting people who do so much for primary-school for 48 hours, to the distress of local people; children who engage in sporting activities. carrying a transistor radio blaring at full These children take part in various types blast; using four-letter words in public; of sport, such as football, cricket, basketball, walking about naked; or engaging in sexual tennis, softball and athletics. After all, they intercourse in full public view. are our young sportsmen and sportswomen of tomorrow, and they play competitive It is this sort of liberty that permissive school sport in the categories I have society demands. Somehow, one of the most mentioned. Those who are selected to important rights of today-namely, the right represent their schools then participate in to be left alone and not to be interfered inter-town, inter-city and interstate with-goes to the wall. Apparently people competitions. are not entitled to enjoy that right. The permissive society is a demanding society and I now wish to refer to an application one in which permissionists have unlimited that was made by the Queensland State rights and no duties, whereas the rest of Primary Schools Amateur Athletics Associ­ the world have unlimited duties and no ation to the Minister last year for financial rights. assistance to foster and promote the many branches of sc'hool sport under its auspices Look at the right to take drugs, for throughout the State. The association was example. This is balanced by the duties of informed that its application was refused others to provide those drugs and make it and, furthermore, that it was not pDlicy to possible for people to obtain them, and give financial assistance to primary-school also the duty of doctors to lend their sports. I now ask why this is so. aid when drug-taking gets out of hand. Look also at the right to contract out of I refer to an answer to a question asked the world and belong to an alternative by the honourable member for Rockhamp­ society. This is balanced by the duty of ton North Dn 6 December 1972, and the the rest of the people to make this possible Minister's answer which stated, in part- and to provide the means, such as social "All State sporting associations should service payments and medical and dentist receive a letter from me this week setting services, which the alternative society does out details of what is required of them not and cannot provide. in applying for financial assistance from the funds available for assistance and There is a quality of arrogance in this encouragement to sport." society-this desire to have things both ways-which has become evident since the Later, it said- Australian Labor Party became the Federal "Grants towards the cost of sending Government. The A.L.P. advocates law­ properly selected representative teams lessness, and uses the typical Communist interstate where financial hardship exists." tactic to undermine our Christian society by a tacit agreement on drugs and porn­ That does not say that primary-school sport ography. is excluded from these grants. In conclusion, one of the basic principles Like school-teachers and parents who are of permissive society is, "The less you members of parents and citizens' associations, know and the less you have at stake, the I, too, am bitterly disappointed that the better qualified you are to decide anything Minister lfefuses to allocate some finance to and everything." school sport. These are the young people Matters of Public Interest [28 NoVEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest 2059

we have to cultivate, as in the years to selected on playing ability alone--and it come, they will be our champio~s in the should receive financial assistance from the various fields of sport. Ministry of Sport. When one analyses the sport situation in The amounts allocated to the various sport­ our schools, one must pay a great tribute to ing bodies during the year appeared in "The teachers and those people who make up Courier-Mail" of Wednesday, 21 November parents and citizens' associations. Teachers 1973. I shall refer to just two fields of give up a great deal of their time, both sport that received great financial assistance before and after school hours, in coaching from the Ministry of Sport. The total children in various forms of sport, while amount allocated was $1,043,291, of which parents set about raising finance to pur­ golf clubs recerved $165,796 and bowls clubs chase sporting equipment, unifiorms, and so $114,96 L Nowhere is provision made for on. primary-school sporting activities. Whilst I have no desire to take anything away from Children who are selected to represent those sporting clubs, I point out that, because their school are often required to travel to of their liquor bars and fees paid by mem­ other centres to compete. Should they be bers, they are more or less self-supporting. selected to represent Queensland and have They have no trouble in raising finance. to travel inte1state, a:ll travelling costs have Surely our school-children are entitled to to be met by the parents if the parents some financial grant to meet their expenses. and citizens' association does not "come to I therefore respectfully request that the the party" and assist them financial'ly. I Minister give favourable and urgent consid­ am sure all honourable mem'bers realise eration to allocating some money for sport­ the cost involved for those few dedicated ing activities at our primary schools. people who do so much for school sport. In addition to coaching, teachers and mem­ LOCAL GOVERNMENT BOUNDARY, MARY- bers of parents and citizens' associations, by BOROUGH; REORGANISATION OF ELECTRICITY and large, are required to sell raffle tickets SUPPLY ADMINISTRATION, MARYBOROUGH and conduct chocolate wheels so that the Mr. ALISON (Maryborough) (12.41 p.m.): necessary finance can be raised to assist the children and bring out any sporting potential wish to refer briefly but, I hope, to the they may possess. point on two very important matters affecting my electorate. Both of them are crying out When the Ministry of Sport was created, for urgent Government action and decision. many people, like myself, were of the Firstly, I refer to the local government opinion that every assistance, including boundary situation. A serious problem which finance, would be forthcoming to promote is strangling the orderly growth of Mary­ sport in our schools. After all, where is borough is the out-of-date and restrictive local the most important and logical place to government boundary of the city of Mary­ commence looking for our future sportsmen borough. This is not a new problem, and and sports women if it is not in the pri­ this is not the first time I have mentioned mary schools? it in this House. Some five or six years ago, I now wish to refer to the sport of soft­ when I was deputy mayor of Maryborough, ball. Next month a South Queensland team a detailed proposal was put to the then of softball players will travel to Rockhamp­ Minister for Local Government, with no ton. Mackay, Townsville and Cairns to take positive response. part in inter-city competitions. Here again, Briefly, the situation is that Mary­ an application was made to the Ministry borough's present local government boundary of Sport for financial assistance-and again encompasses approximately 6,000 acres, of without success. Following these inter-city which 37 per cent is lost to the flood area, competitions, a State team of primary-school railway property and the aerodrome. Roads softball players will travel to Adelaide to take up nearly 20 per cent of the built-up compete in the interstate competitions to area, which means that we are left with be held in January 1974. something like 43 per cent of the total area available for actual use. If the Burrum Shire, Let me now examine the cost involved which surrounds the Maryborough City in travelling to Ca.irns for the inter-city Council area, was capable of providing water competition. I! will cost each chHd who and sewerage to the developing areas adjoin­ is selected $40. Children who are selected ing the city of Maryborough, there would to represent Queensland in the interstate be less urgency in the matter. competitions at Adelaide will have to meet a further cost of $150. In effect, this Tinana, which is the southern gateway to means that only those children whose par­ Maryborough, is outside the Maryborough ents are in the more affluent class will be city boundary. It is developing quite well, able to travel !o Cairns and South Australia. except that, whilst it remains outside the city It is therefore logical to assume that the of Maryborough, it will not get sewerage or State primary school softball team could an acceptable water-reticulation system in well be a team of players with the richest the foreseeable future. To the north are the parents rather than one comprising the best developing suburbs along the Gayndah road players. Surely a State team should be and the Bundaberg road. Again, whilst they 2060 Matters of Public Interest [28 NoVEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest

remain outside the city of Maryborough, expects to enjoy the continued confidence of those two areas cannot expect a reasonable the people of Maryborough and Hervey Bay, water-supply or sewerage system in the fore­ it must take urgent and forthright action. seeable futme. Those areas are really not of great interest to Burrum Shire, with the I call for the immediate production of a result that they are not receiving attention copy of Professor Gates's report on the so far as town development is concerned. Maryborough-Burrum district local govern­ On the other hand, the southern and northern ment boundaries. Failing its production, the gateways and other developing areas just Government should first establish immedi­ outside Ma:ryborough boundary are extremely ately a boundaries commission under the important to the city of Maryborough. It is Local Government Act to look at the Mary­ absolutely imperative that they become part borough-Burrum district local government of the city of Maryborough so that they can boundaries problem, as promised by the be properly serviced. Premier in May 1972 and, secondly, conduct The Moonaboola Industrial Estate is a survey of the entire State. If this is not located just outside the Maryborough boun­ done, then, so far as I am concerned, the dary, but there is no area of any consequence Government has failed in its obligation to within the Maryborough boundary that the the proper functioning of local government Maryborough City Council could offer to a in my electorate. prospective industry. What is the point in the State Government talking about decen­ Mr. Lane: It's about time something was tralisation and development of provincial livened up. areas when it allows this state of affairs to exist? As I mentioned before, this is not a Mr. ALISON: I quite agree. new problem; but it is a problem that In answer to a recent question by me in Cli:HJ.tinues. As long as it continues, it remains this Chamber the Minister for Local Gov­ as an indictment against the Government's ernment said' he would soon be putting a inability and its lack of interest to face up to the problem and take the remedial action submission before Cabinet concerning local within its power. I know that local govern­ government boundaries. Local government ment boundaries are a very touchy subject is an important part of our Federal system, i;m, some quarters, particularly where the local and this State Government has an obligation government members concerned cannot see to put local government in Queensland on past the local government boundaries and a strong basis by making each local authority have not the slightest interest outside them. a viable proposition and a separate unit that These parochial members of local govern­ can give efficient service and value for money ment are a hindrance to development and to the ratepayers. With a weak and inef­ progress. ficient local government system, which is what we have in Queensland, we run a As a counter to that, we have the recent serious risk of having the Federal Govern­ decision of the Local Government Associa­ ment succeeding in bypassing the Queens­ tion supporting the appointment of a boun­ land Government with direct grants and daries tribunal. Shortly before the May 1972 loans to local government. One cannot blame State election, the Premier, in an election local authorities for fal1ing into the trap rally at Hervey Bay, promised that, in view and becoming dependent upon a centralist of the submissions put to him at that time, Federal Government if they are not in a he would have an investigation conducted position to stand on their own feet, with into local government boundaries in the proper assistance from the Queensland Gov­ Maryborough-Burrum district. Certainly the ernment. Premier acted speedily at that time. He ulJtained the services of Professor Gates from I now wish to refer briefly to the very the University of Queensland Commission, vexed question of the proposed reorganisa­ through the Institute of Urban Studies, to tion and amalgamation of electricity boards carry out a study into the Maryborough­ in Queensland. Recently the Minister for Burrum district local government area, as Local Government let it be known that there well as a complete study of Queensland local was to be a reorganisation of regional elec­ guvernment problems. I believe that the fee tricity board boundaries, with the result that was $16,000. For that amount we have had the existing 21 regional electricity boards from Professor Gates nothing but one would be amalgamated and reorganised into promise after another. The latest promise four boards. Employees of the Wide Bay­ is that his report will be in the Premier's Burnett Regional Electricity Board in Mary­ hands early next year. borough have beeome seriously alarmed at The Gates report has become a joke in this statement, particularly in view of the Maryborough and Hervey Bay. In fact, it Minister's later assertion in answer to a has become a very bad joke on the Govern­ question by me that no decision had been ment. The patience of all people interested made on the location of the headquarters in this problem in Maryborough and Hervey for the four electricity distribution boards, Bay is completely exhausted, and Professor and that this decision, and the question Gates's procrastination and the lack of of the location of individual employees, were Government action on this problem leave properly matters for consideration by those much to be desired. If the Government boards themselves. Matters of Public Interest [28 NOVEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest 2061

I can well understand-and I agree-that I therefore repeat that the State Govern­ the existing regional electricity boards, and ment has a responsibility to look at all the the boards to be created, must have a fair socio-economic problems involved in any degree of autonomy in the day-to-day run­ drastic changes in State instrumentalities, par­ ning of an electricity board area, but the ticularly in regard to the ways in which any statement by the Minister that the location change in staffing situations might affect of the headquarters for each of the four the area concerned. This Government must new boards is to be left to the boards them­ remember its avowed decentralisation policy. selves is completely unacceptable to the In this particular case, apart from what I people of Maryborough, to the employees have said, Maryborough has good claim to at Maryborough, and certainly to me. remain the administrative centre for the densely populated area of Wide Bay-Burnett. Maryborough has been the administrative It is that area's geographical centre, and headquarters of the Wide Bay-Burnett it has been the administrative centre for the Regional Electricity Board since its inception, existing board since its inception. It is not which was many years ago, and there are that I am asking for anything to be taken at Maryborough 89 members on the adminis­ from some other centre. I am merely saying tration staff, 11 in the trading department that Maryborough must be allowed to retain and 52 in the workshop and store. As well, what it already has, and what it justly has. I understand that there are approximately 45 employees in outside jobs in the Mary­ It has already been said in the local Press borough district, mainly with their homes in in Maryborough that the Minister is trying Maryborough. Nearly three weeks ago I made to get out from under by duck-shoving an representations to the Minister for Local unpleasant decision onto the boards that are Government, as well as to the Treasurer and yet to be officially announced. This just will the Premier, seeking an assurance that there not work so far as the people of Maryborough would be no loss of staff presently engaged are concerned, and it certainly will not work in Maryborough by the regional electricity so far as I am concerned. I hold the Minister board following the reorganisation of and the Government responsible for seeing boundaries, and that in fact Maryborough that Maryborough does not suffer any loss would continue to be the administrative, of existing electricity board staff when the trading and workshop centre for any enlarged proposed new electricity boards are set up. electricity board encompassing that particular area. I have not yet received an assurance from any of the three Ministers on that LITTER ACT ENFORCEMENT point. Mr. DEAN (Sandgate) (12.50 p.m.): The As I mentioned before, I can well under­ very important matter of public interest that stand that electricity boards must have some I wish to bring before Parliament is the autonomy in the running of their areas, and weak enforcement by the Government of the no doubt submissions and recommendations Litter Act of 1971. I have been very dis­ have already been made to Cabinet by the appointed in the weak implementation of State Electricity Commission, not only on the Act since its inception, and in many where the boundaries should lie but also discussions with local authorities, and par­ where the headquarters should be situated. ticularly with the Lord Mayor of Brisbane, If this is not the case, then I respectfully a great number of inadequacies in the leg­ suggest that it should be. There might well islation have been amply revealed. be good financial and other reasons why One of the major difficulties with the Litter the headquarters of an electricity board area Act lies in the fact that, if a challenge is should be at a certain spot, and why the boundary should be here, there or at some made in court to the "on the spot" fine, other spot. the offender has a good chance of succeed­ ing. In these circumstances, with the possibil­ However, in the broad outlook for the ity of "on the spot" fines remaining unpaid, whole of the State, and for the good of councils are reluctant to force offenders into the whole of the State, I believe it is the court. Surely the time has arrived when State Government's responsibility to look at the Act should be reviewed. the socio-economic problems involved if there is to be any drastic change in the The Government must be concerned about boundary or staffing situation, particularly in the apparent lack of enforcement of the regard to headquarters where staff are pre­ Act, especially in view of the growing litter sently employed. In addition, what about the menace in the community. A review of the good service to the public of Queensland, Act would no doubt clarify or properly which I believe, by and large, has been given define such phrases as "public place". As it by the existing electricity boards? Whilst now stands in the legislation, the definition increasing size and volume in generation could cause difficulties if a prosecution is might result in reducing the cost of elec­ defended on that point. Section 2 of the tricity, it certainly does not necessarily mean Act refers to a public place as " . improved service, or more personal service, a place of public resort, open to the public to the consumer, unless service and adminis­ as of right". It has been explained to me tration is decentralised. that this definition has been the subject of 2062 Matters of Public Interest [28 NoVEMBER 1973] Matters of Public Interest

many and varied interpretations. The widest further but simply provide for the forms interpretation appears to be that quoted in to be used. The Government must realise Stroud's Judicial Dictionary- now that the Act certainly has not fulfilled "A place to which the public resort its original purpose but, instead, has created in fact even though not of right. (Kitson many problems, making it very difficult to v. Ashe (1899) 1 Q.B. 425.)" implement the legislation. In further discussion, my attention was Furthermore, I should like the Minister drawn, by way of comparison, to the cases to advise the House why no State Govern­ cited in Burrows "Words and Phrases Judic­ ment authority has appointed any authorised ially Defined", particularly the cases dealing persons or, for that matter, launched any with the English Vagrancy Act of 1824. litter prosecutions. To the best of my know­ In these cases it has been said that "a public ledge none of these actions have taken place highway is merely a place where people have up to the present time. If I am correct, a right to go. It is not necessarily a place I should like the Minister to indicate of public resort." The authority for that is whether the situation is likely to change in the case of re Timson (1870) Law Reports. the near future. I am very sorry to say that, instead of providing a simple and Even upon the widest of these definitions, easy means to overcome the litter problem, the Act further restricts it, as it states the Act has caused much confusion and " . . . a place of public resort, open to frustration to local authorities and others who the public as of right", and whereas the wish to proceed against people who are courts might now adopt the wider inter­ depositing litter. If the present Act is incap­ pretations, questions of fact will arise and able of being effectively amended, I ask the some prosecutions will be viewed very Minister to seek Cabinet approval to have cautiously by them. As an example, the it completely redrafted as soon as possible. Lord Mayor of Brisbane, Alderman Clem It was refreshing to see a very forward Jones, cited Mt. Coot-tha. He posed the move being made by the Brisbane City Coun­ question: Do the public resort to the whole cil recently when it intimated that in the of this area, or only to certain parts of near future it will appoint full-time rangers it? Again, he asked, "Do they go there to patrol city parks and streets. I sincerely as of right? As part of this area is owned hope that the rangers, when appointed, will in fee simple by the council, can it be said not confine their patrols to daylight hours. that the public have an actual right to go Most vandalism and depositing of litter there?" occurs after dark, particularly in the early The definition of ''litter" calls for a great hours of the morning. deal of discussion and clarification. The Alderman Brusasco made the announce­ definition in the Act is not precise. It does ment that the council had called for six. not cover, for example, spillage of soil or full-time uniformed park rangers, who would gravel on a road. The words "contributes or patrol the city's parks to prevent vandalism. tends to the defacement or defilement of I do not think any area has suffered more that place" may cause many problems. It from vandalism than my electorate of Sand­ must be conceded that the words "deface­ gate. Only recently there has been another ment or defilement" constitute strong spate of it. Most of it occurs after dark, language and must imply something more when there is little chance of the acts being than, for example, a paper bag thrown down seen by people in the ordinary course of in Anzac Square. their daily routine. Furthermore, Mr. Speaker, I am reliably Alderman Brusasco said that the rangers informed that the Act is of no assistance would carry tickets to issue to litterbugs. I in the case of litter dumped on private land. only hope that the Government will co-oper­ In practice, it has been found that much ate by implementing its own legislation. of the serious depositing of litter takes place Something should be done to combat what on land outside the actual road area, that is occurring at the moment right through­ is, on council, Crown or privately owned out the State. The only solution is the land. imposition of heavy penalties. Various hon­ Section 7 of the Act is too cumbersome, ourable members have referred to Singapore and obviously, with litter, the essential action and other places where drastic measures is to remove it as soon as possible. Making have been taken. I do not say that we an offender clean up the litter he deposited have to go to the extreme lengths of some is an important aspect of educating him out other countries, but we have to impose of his litter habit. What then of noxious or more severe penalties for littering. If the fear exists that the legislation we passed in offensive material which would have to this House cannot withstand challenge in remain for many months while a court order the courts, the parliamentary draftsman was being obtained? Sections 13 and 14 should be asked to prepare amendments neces­ provide for p.rotection from liability for a sary to ensure that the Act will have the person acting bona fide under the Act force of law, and so enable us to make whereas section 14 provides only for regula­ our cities comparable with other~ in Au~trali~ tions. However, these regulations. which in freedom from litter. were published in the Government Gazette on 29 May 1971, do not take the Act any The House adjourned at 1 p.m.