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KYMBERLEIGH'S CLIPBOARD: The argument by the "surgery on demand 11 advocates has a great big flaw in it ••• 2 NEWS DEPARTMENT ... BEGINS ON PAGE4 NEWSWIRE (news of the worldwide gender community) THE DIVA OF DISH (mainstream news) HotBuzzl (snippets from all over) VOX POPULI: Letters to the editor ••• 13 REGULAR COLUMNISTS ... BEGIN ON PAGE 17 VIRGIN VIEWS BY VIRGINIA: Crossdressing stems from envy of women's freedom of self-expression INSIGHT: Even when our children accept, we must take care not to abuse their acceptance WOMAN TO WOMAN: Comparing the environments of our minds and our hearts T NOTES: New columnist Anne Vitale, Ph.D. on shame and guilt HUMOR SECTION ... BEGINS ON PAGE23 THE BEARDED LADY GREAT MOMENTS IN TV HISTORY COMICS FEATURE ARTICLES: MICHIGAN WOMYN'S MUSIC FESTIVAL 1994: A report on how the protest over transsexual exclusion resulted in some gains this year (Janis Walworth) ••• 27 ALL THE PEOPLE YOU ARE: You aren't just an individual. you're a committee! (B.J. Seymour) ... 30 INFORMATION FEATURES ... BEGIN ON PAGE 33 ALTERNATIVE PRESSES: A review of Transgender Nation MOVIE REVIEW: SPLIT: PORTRAIT OF A DRAG QUEEN (Charlene Day) THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY AND YOU: Getting an access level that's rlghtforyour needs (Emily Clarke) CALENDAR OF EVENTS HOTLINES

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SURGERY ON DEMAND?

by Kymberleigh Richards Publisher & Managing Editor

In the past several weeks, I have found myself in the mind the question of surgery from time to time. And so far, middle of a debate on the Internet that will sound all too every time the answer is still 11no11 . familiar to anyone who has spent any amount of time in That's not to say that I condemn SRS in general. It is our community. certainly the right option for some. But from my The topic of this debate is one that has been discussed not experience, I believe it's easier for someone to decide not only in these pages but in practically every gender to have it than to decide to go through with it. And that is community publication at one time or another. And it the crucial factor in the whole question of transsexuality. comes up nearly every time the subject of transsexualism And it is the most compelling reason possible for the does. potential SRS candidate to be in consultation with I call it "topic" (singular), but actually it includes a second professionals and for those professionals to be guided by topic; they are interrelated in such a way that no some type of peer consensus. discussion can include one------Note my use of the term 11potential without the other. And those who SRS candidate11 rather than oppose one always automatically why is there such an "pre-operative transsexual11 in the support the other ... and vice OUtCry OV9r prOfSSSiOnal preceding sentence. The first term versa. is precisely how any helping The topic is sex reassignment QU id an C9 0 n CS Y0 U professional sees their client; the surgery on demand, and the (love decide you want surgery? second is a matter of the client's 'em or hate 'em) Benjamin self-identification. Anyone who Standards Of Care. wants to can declare themselves a I think most people by now know transsexual, but in actual medical Lhal I am a transgenderist; that is, in accordance with the fact no one actually is one until the point of surgery. original definition by my frien~ Virginia Prince, I li~e full The way I explain it when I lecture before graduate time as a woman without seeking SRS. However, I like to courses in human sexuality is that the early stages of think that I have put a '90s spin on the concept by the way transsexual behavior parallel the advanced stages of my own life bas progressed. As I have noted . in past crossdressing behavior; unless you know where the person editorials and articles, I present more of a f emme-1sb dyke is actually headed, you cannot tell by observing them appearance. My closet has m~re oversiz~ t~~s and wide whether they are TS or TG. Every publicly visible thing leg pants than anything else (m fact, Vrrguna professes about my lifestyle now is virtually identical to someone great surprise when she sees me in a skirt), and I_ prefer going through the pre-SRS real life test ... or perhaps even flats to heels and knee-highs to full length stockings or that of a post-op TS; one of my female neighbors, pantyhose. My social life outside the gender community welcoming me to the building when I moved there six Lends to revolve around the lesbian community, where I months ago, asked me point blank: "When did you have have found great acceptance. your surgery? 11 Since she has never seen anything but the I say all this because I feel my orientation -- to put it in woman, Kym Richards, upon perce1vmg me as terms that our community understands -- is closer to a transgendered she presumed I was a transsexual who had non-operative transsexual than a full-time crossdresser. My already "gone through with it" ... because I didn't give any journey through genderland started with my thinking I was indications of having any duality. TS, and it took over three years of exploring that option, So if the only difference between declaring yourself TG or plus a couple of years completely divorced from the entire TS is whether or not you intend to have SRS, why is there subject and another five or so years as a recreational such an outcry over having professional guidance once you crossdresser before I made the commitment to myself to believe you may want the surgery? Once you commit to live the way I do. So from time to time I re-explore in my being a woman, whether it be as a TG or as a TS, there is 2 no difference in who you are except for the question of whether or not you want to keep your penis! And not only does that concept logically require some kind of professional advice, it also raises the kind of legal and ethical questions that having some kind of "standards" for the helping professionals answer. This is not a question of the helping professionals having any kind of "control" over your life, as the surgery on demand advocates believe. It is a question of having the Give the gilt of love ability to consult the helping professionals on the subject this Christmas. of life-changing surgery without the helping professionals LOVE CALENDAR: themselves being at risk. Like it or not, we are a litigious The Secrets of Love society. And like it or not, there are those who decide by Dr. Peggy Rudd. post-surgery that they have made a mistake. And every $9.95. helping professional lives under the constant fear of being PM Publishers, PO sued for malpractice ... which in the case of a transsexual Box 5304, Katy, client could include the accusation of having abetted their Texas 77491 . sexual mutilation. In such an eventuality, is it not better for the helping professional to have a set of guidelines developed by an association of their peers, to justify their actions? What many people who debate this topic wrongly presume is that the Benjamin Standards Of Care are a set of "rules" that the helping professional can use to delay what the client so passionately desires. How, I ask you, can there be "rules" when each individual is going lo -- by virtue of • being an individual -- be different ? I do find fault with professionals who view the SOC as "rules", because they are doing their clients a disservice by forcing them into a HA great new (and v~ hot) zine on multi conformity to a model that

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The leadership of the gender community organizations in community. Southern California have agreed not to object to IFGE Jessica Xavier of Washington, D.C., Jane Fee of holding its 1997 Coming Together-Working Together Minneapolis and Karen Kerin of Vermont have been convention in Los Angeles. named national co-chairs of It's Time America (ITA), a Although it was generally agreed that holding the IFGE registered lobbying organization for transgender rights convention in the same geographic area and within formed during the recent International Conference on several weeks of California Dreamin' does impose Transgender Law & Employment (ICTLEP). ITA takes its scheduling and financial impact on the local event, the name from the It's Time Minnesota movement. Presently, leadership agreed that IFGE executive director Merissa Minnesota is the only state that protects transgender Sherrill Lynn's repeated public statements that the rights. ITA's mission is to lobby for transgender rights at convention would take place regardless of repercussions, the local, state and federal levels, as well as encourage coupled with the fact that none of the local organizations individuals to become local activists. had been approached to act as host, made the decision not Fee and Kerin, along with ICTLEP directors Laura Skaer to object in the best interests of the local and national and Phyllis Randolph Frye, are presently working on the gender community. Each organization will be left to make inclusion of transgender language in SB-2238, ''The

11 its own decision as to how involved it wishes to be in the Employment. Non Discrimination Act of 1994 • In addition, 1997 convention. Xavier and Riki Anne Wilchins of New York addressed Lynn's preemptive press release announcing the the Congress of Transgender Organizations at the recent convention and subsequent follow-up letters were Southern Comfort about ITA's goals. generally derided as having a lack of courtesy and respect It's Time, America can be contacted at P.O. Box 65, for the Southern California gender community. It was Kensington MD 20895. pointed out that even as IFGE board chairman Linda Buten sent a letter stating that the decision had not been 000 approved, Lynn's follow-up letters were indicating that the The long-awaited results of the transgender research location was definite. The text of Buten's letter appears in questionnaire distributed over three years ago have been this month's 11 Vox Populi". released by the Boulton & Park Society. A letter outlining the organizations' agreed position in Calling it "the largest research survey ever done by the detail will be sent to the IFGE board in time for its transgendered community,11 B&P announced that 934 meeting this month in New York. The organizations also responses were received from 51 (sic) states and several agreed to improve networking between each other, foreign countries. Distribution of the questionnaire was improving on the existing good working relationships. thr~ugh various support groups and at community events A total of 18 leaders attended the executive session, with dunng the three year period. each of the six major organizations in the area (Powder Al~ough ~e .survey contained a specific prohibition Puffs Of California, Born Free, Alpha Chapter Tri-Ess, agamst publication, an examination of the results showed CHIC, Ladies Knight Out, and Neutral Corner) a significant difference to those of other surveys done in represented. Cross-Talk was also invited to attend the ~h: ~ast. B&P indicated that they felt this was due to the meeting and was represented by publisher/managing within th~ community" nature of the survey, saying that editor Kymberleigh Richards and associate editor Virginia past studies by research professionals may have been Prince. ~awed ~ue to 11the transgendered individual giv[ing] 000 information ... based on what he thinks [the professional] want~ to . hear". However, it was noted that the A group of transgendered individuals, encouraged by questionnaire ~esults were tabulated by well-known political gains achieved in various state and city venues gender commumty physician George R. Brown, M.D. and and simultaneously alarmed by the onslaught of group facilitator Gina Brooks, M.A. anti-gay/ anti-TG propositions in ten states, have formed 0 B&P feels th lim1t d · the first real political action committee of the transgender ar . e e mvolvement by professionals "who e more mvolved than most in our community" creates 4 less danger of 11pre-judgement according to wrongly A gay and lesbian experimental film festival has decided to 11 preconceived theories • They also felt that a survey include transgender material in a demonstration of conducted by a gender community organization would be interactive multimedia this month in New York City. de-stigmatized. Cyberqueer, described as "blurring borders between Survey results were included with the September issue of identities by transracial and transsexual transmission, will the B&P newsletter Gender Euphoria. use the interactuive technology to create a "cyberspace" 000 where one's identity is a matter of personal choice. The festival will include a forum hosted by the New York In an attempt to bring members of the local gender On-Line computer service to discuss and debate the use of community together with professionals and the public, the new digital technology within the queer communities. Los Angeles Gender Center held an open house The festival will take place at the Anthology Film Archives September 11 which included a panel discussion on in New York City November 10 through 20. Information is transgender issues. available from the festival office, (212) 807-8258, or on Although the LAGC panel attempted to offer balanced line at [email protected]. perspectives, a public question and answer session appeared to be entirely transsexual oriented, to the dismay 000 of several non-transsexual individuals. The majority of the A new on-line service has been created to provide easy questions fielded by the panel concerned hormone therapy. access to information of interest to gay, lesbian, bisexual, LAGC founder Marie Keller and clinical director and transgender communities. Maureen Morrissey expressed concern for the imbalance The information and referral database (IRD), to be after the event and indicated that future presentations maintained by the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender would be more all-inclusive. (GLBT) Programs Office of the University of Minnesota, 000 is accessible through Internet connections and through public access terminals at University of Minnesota A new support group oriented toward spouses/partners, libraries. The IRD allows users to easily browse through or children, parents, extended families and friends has begun search for information on campus, local and national in the Charlotte, N.C. area. resources and regularly updated events and action alerts. The new group -- as yet unnamed -- is facilitated by local A few of the many topics covered by the IRD include therapist Barbara Carnal, who has also begun writing a information on University of Minnesota policies and column for the newsletter All The Beautifu.l People! descriptions of nearby community resources. The IRD also published by the Carolina Trans-Sensual Alliance. Initial contains a series of "Research Guides" that will help users reaction to both the group and the column have been locate information sources on the history of the GLBT positive, according to ATBPI editor Divinity, with the group movement, parenting issues, marriage and domestic drawing interest from the local Kappa Beta Tri-Ess partnership, the military, psychological and mental health chapter as well as from CTA. issues, queer theory and other topics. Divinity stressed that Carnal's new group is not affiliated The IRD uses Gopher software, a text-search program with either CTA or Kappa Beta, saying that "the primary developed at the University of Minnesota. User benefit is that her group will not be coming from a positive instructions for access to the database, which can vary by prejudice toward crossgender behavior or preference." She terminal type and means of connection, are available from went on to explain that groups affiliated with existing the GLBT Programs Office [email protected]. CD /TG/TS support groups are frequently viewed with Organizations and individuals wishing to list resource and suspicion by significant others. event information on the database may receive Carnal may be reached at (704) 847-7953. information via the same e-mail address or by calling 000 (612) 625-6042 either by voice or TDD.

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The managers of putting our community's most hated con man out of those agencies will soon be receiving a letter from me, business. including a copy of my editorial from issue #51, urging First, I would like to announce that we now know who them to be vigilant and not rent Salem (or any of his oth~r Philip Salem really is, and also where his 11 legitimate" aliases) a mailbox should he attempt to do so. Since bis place of employment is. For this, I thank Jessie Hays, a modus operandi is based in part on the use of ~ non-transgendered lesbian in Seattle for a piece of anonymous, nearly untraceable, mailing address, he wille information that we were able to use to confirm rumors undoubtedly attempt to secure one if he wants to r~wn that we had heard previously. While I am hesitant to reveal operations. I hope to make it much more difficult -- if not Salem's true identity due to the ongoing possibility that we impossible -- for him to do so, and I believe the mailb~ might yet be able to bring some kind of charges against renters' desire to not become unwilling parties to m him, I will say that he is a journalist of sorts in the Seattle fraud will predispose them toward cooperating with 1:15· e area. In fact, in.July we had our friend Allison Marsh of However, your continued vigilance is needed in casth · that e The Emerald City anonymously mail a copy of Cross-Talk Salem somehow manages to slip past us. Knowing e #51 (the one with my original editorial) to him under his gender community>s publications are all very much aw~ real name at the publication he works for. I wonder what of ~ ac?vities, he now tends to appr?ach ~o;e happened when he opened it and found himself looking at us affiliated mterests. Remember this last tune he us d the headline "WARNING: THAT CON MAN PHil..IP , d the wor Leather Journal as his unwilling pawns to sprea . xt SALEM IS BACK!" on the cover? I will tell you this: He " . . . ilar tactic ne Of. hi s orgaruzatton". He may well try a sun certainly hasn't contacted me about it ... no surprise. tune. · n If our past encounters with Salem are any basis for If attentt0 you see Salem resurface bring it to DlY . be prediction of what will happen, we can expect him to go · ' Ii uon immediately and send me the name of any pub ca I deep underground for several months. Perhaps longer h r's naJlle· may use, along .with their address and publi 5 e given the scare we've delivered him. And since we have no 0ved have had success in having him unceremoniously rein. d to basis for taking legal action until we can 11 catch him in the act", it won't be until he resurfaces that we can explore that from publications before, and I'm certainlY not afrat possibility again. attempt to do it again, if necessary. In the meantime, I intend to make it much more difficult The battle -- for the moment -- is won, though. . RicliatdS for him next time (if he decides there will be one). With Kymber/ezgh ·n Editor the help of another friend who has access to all the Publisher & Managt g 000 shall11011 - ERRATA: In Cross-Talk #60, the attribution for iJl the May Burke's article "Communication?" was lost ared ill Crossdresslna composition process The article originallY appe Girls, Headquarters Devil Woman, the n~wsletter of the Diablo yalleY by Mail or in Person Concord CA, and was reprinted with permission. ~ . . yieWS 11 ~ We have everything Also in #60, part of Virginia Prince's ~~gin proceS5• yo~ need to create the column was inadvertently deleted in the edi.tulg ed frotll ultimate infemininity The missing text occurred where the article jUI11P f Including our own · page 16 to page 19, and should read as follows: . whicl• ;s beauty and nail salon ;J; • • 1 Another / t soc1e1Y dO and transformation ' venJJCation of my contention is t ia 0rnen /J center. ~argely governed by men doesn't much care what Worneli'/J(I~ m ah ma scu z·me direction, because it is seen as .a he' s gro "''"'/d 1118 pat etic attempt to elevate themselves to the 1e coll ~rnon 's Sbecialties of mas 1· . 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TRANSVESTITES BEHIND BARS: No, its not a B movie queens make mascara by burning the black telephone from the fifties. The Los Angeles Times ran a story back on receiver and mixing the melted plastic with toothpaste. June 29 of this year about a man, David Glascock, and the They use the foil tops of orange juice containers to create inmates who are kept in the Witches Castle. It sits on a earrings and they mix soap with their morning oatmeal to hill overlooking the Peter J. Pitchess Honor Rancho (that's make beauty masks. The attitude of jail officials toward this the county jail) and it's where Los Angeles county houses creative feminine activity is summed up by Glascock as, transgendered prisoners. Mr. Glascock is an advocate for 11 Dammit, these are men and they're going to be treated "The Girls" and he works for the ACLU as a paid monitor like men.11 He adds, "Well, they're not men. Nobody would crusading for the rights of all gay prisoners. choose this lifestyle unless they had something burning 11 The Girls" are all street queens. They're uneducated inside them.11 No, Mr. Glascock, no one would. teenagers who felt like dressing up and had no way to hide David Glascock tries to help all the gay prisoners and he the activity from parents or family. (How can you hide works to help the transgendered prisoners. He wasn't something if the whole family lives in one or two rooms?) successful in getting them the right to wear makeup, but he Who knows if they are all really homosexual, or did get them part-time use of a classroom where they can transsexual? If you are transgendered and you don't know study for high school equivalency tests. With his anyone who feels like you do except the drag queens you intercession they have been allowed to put on talent shows see hustling on the street, who do you use as a role model? and hold a mock wedding. He is the only friend most of Where do you go when your parents find you dressed up or them have outside the jail and he is the only one doing this in makeup and they call you a faggot as they kick you out? job ... a job he is paid $930 a month to do. His time has You join the queens on the street and then, to make a been cut from 100 hundred hours a month to 62. He is 56 living, you fall into prostitution. Crossdresser fiction uses years old and he is HIV positive. How much longer will he this scenario a lot. It's portrayed as hot and sexy. It's not as be there for the girls? What will they do without him? sexy as it's pathetic. Time will tell. When the girls are arrested they are sent to the jail and David Glascock, along with Senior Deputy Ken Irwin, ••• must decide if they wiµ be housed in the Witches Castle. TITS ANYONE? On a lighter note... sheesh, darn leaky The only inmates allowed into the Castle are the queens. eyes. My mascara is smeared. I better start using a Glascock and Irwin must play detective to sort out those different brand of toothpaste. O.K., what's the header? Ah who are presented for entry. Why? Neo-Nazis, gang yes. Tits. Have you seen The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen members and other tough guys have tried to pass of the Desert yet? It's a hoot and in the press package the themselves off as gay to get into the environmentt where distributor sent us the instructions on how to make fake they could push people around. These are the people who boobs for Priscilla star Terence Stamp. The title of this get grilled by Glascock with questions about the gay bars inventive (almost as inventive as the girls in The Castle) they've been to and the men they have had sex with. bit of instruction is, "Instructions for Preparing Terence Glascock is gay. He manages to sort out the pretenders. Stamp's Boobs" as directed by Lizzy Gardiner (Costume Not all of the queens want to go to the Castle. They will try Designer) and Cassie Hanion (Make-up Artist). [Note: to convince Glascock they are just gay, not queens. Why? That Ms. Gardiner is no relation to this Ms. Gardner.] They want to get a boyfriend while they're in jail. That For those of you wishing to have breasts that look like wouldn't be possible if they are kept with the other queens. Bernadette's as she trekked through the outback, I That's why transgendered prisoners go to the Castle. If reproduce the directions here: they are placed in with the other gay prisoners, 6 Party Balloons in Ulhite man-trouble starts. 6 Bulldog Clips But there's trouble in the Witches Castle anyway. The Fill all six balloons full of water. Fill so they are stretched, rules' don't allow the girls to have makeup. Girls with then put a bulldog clip over the top and leave in a kitchen or breast implants are not allowed to go topless. No one is bathroom ovemight. They will probably leak a little. allowed to wear jewelry. That doesn't stop them. The Next day, empty balloons until they are small and saggy and 7 it easily into the palm of your hand. Tie a knot in the top of from the German government in recognition of her the balloon (still with water inside). Tl1ey should have a achievement with the museum. They have yet to give her a strange texture, not unlike an old ladies boobs. medal for living through Communism and turning her Terence will choose which balloons are the best and will fit museum home into a refuge for East Germany's them in his bra. homosexual and transgendered community. Terence's Bra: Ideally you need either an JBB or 16B bra Charlotte's recollections of days gone by are dramatized, (English sizes?) - 18 is better, but it is difficult to find a B with three different actors portraying her at various stages cup bra - with long shoulder straps. Let the straps down as of her life. The actor portraying the middle-aged Charlotte far as they will go, otherwise tl1e breasts will be too high like is named Ichgola Androgyn. Gotta be a stage name, don't the spring chickens! Try to get a bra without any seams over ya think? the breast area. The film is directed by lesbian filmmaker Rosa von Good luck. No one is to hug Mr. Stamp when he has his bra Pruanheim and while it probably won't be appearing in a on as it will burst. This is highly amusing, but not the look theater near you, it would be worth watching for it in the you're after. video store or maybe the Shocking Gray catalog. Mr. Stamp Speaks ... Terence Stamp, coming from films like Supennan, Tlze Hit, Legal Eagles, Young Guns, Wall MORE SHOW BIZ NOTES:••• According to Andre Previn's Street and Tlze Real McCoy was terrified about playing Bernadette, an aging transsexual showgirl. Stamp said he autobiography, No Minor Chords, Previn did the music for had to stop and think about what it was that terrified him. the 1954 flick, It's Always Fair Weather starring Gene It turns out it was his "fear of the ego," and a weakness Kelly, Dan Dailey and Michael Kidd. MGM decided to that manifested itself in "an obsession to look perfect." I throw a big press screening in the studio's projection roolll know a few crossdressers like that. and they invited everybody from Tlie New York Times to Anywho, by embracing the role, one which he thought Newsweek. To escape the crush of attendees and get a made him look like "an old boot," he broke out of that breath of fresh air Previn went upstairs to the steps of the obsessive perfectionism and is now just a rich actor living Th~berg Building. A cab pulled up and a tall woman in a in the Hamptons. H ooray Terence! Terence has also said white dress got out, paid her fare and made her waY Priscilla was the "most fun I ever had." unsteadily up the steps. As she got closer, Previn realiz~d that this was no lady, it was Dan Dailey, drunk and Lil drag ··· tasteful drag that included short white gloves and a ART FILM? I GOT YER ART••• FILM! Priscilla and Just like large green garden-party-type hat. . A Woman are considered "art" films and, as such, they are Previn was stunned as "the woman in white" said "fll, only playing in small theaters in selected markets. Now goin~ doV.:n to the screening, are we?" Andre had a choice here's a film about a transgendered character that is almost underground. It's called I Am My Own Woman and at this po~t. H e could escort the lady down to the roolll while its subject, Charlotte von Mahlsdorf, might be full of waitmg media or he could try to save Dan's care.er. mistaken for any other hefty farm woman, Charlotte H~ had heard rumors of Dailey's "odd predilection, wluch eVIdently had ab 1 t 1 . . ali " so be started out in th.is world answering to the name Lothar. so u e y no basis m homosexu ty, 100 M~ls dorf li':'es in the former East Germany and not only ~:in't _ surprised. Doing a bit of quick th.inking he t~id survived bemg persecuted as a gay transvestite but ey he had been sent up to intercept him and take biJJl to an office for · . . . d the head managed to establish the only private museum in that . . a pnvate mterv1ew. Prevm foun d of publicity and th . . a col country and keep it going for over thirty years. As the film ey got Dailey out of the dress, Ulto f showe r and a · f ups o opens she is receiving the Federal Order of Merit Cross suit rom wardrobe. 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Moral of the story? 1954: Actor guidance your older brother could turn into RuPaul." in drag equals career suicide. 1994: Actors in drag are Well, I knew Ralph way back when and he's no RuPaul. milking the media for all kinds of good publicity. Hey, come to think of it RuPaul isn't RuPaul anymore. First there's Pat from Saturday Night Live in his/ her own Good luck Ralph. Watch the show on ABC, Sunday nights movie. While not really drag, Pat is so androgynous that at 7:30. The Diva will give you a review as soon as we see no one knows what she/he is. The film is called It's Pat the show. and it stars Julia Sweeny as Pat and David Foley as Pat's Another show to watch for big yucks and some female to gender neutral mate. During the course of the film they do male crossdressing is George Schlatter's new show, SHE a Fred and Ginger type dance routine but you can't tell TV. It's on ABC, Tuesday nights at ten, and its a hoot. I who is Fred and who is Ginger. When Sweeney was asked love the woman who does an impersonation of Fabio. Lets about the origins of Pat she said, "I really wanted to be an hope for more episodes. altar boy." Next is John Leguizamos, currently working on Wong Foo. And••• now , with the end of this column looming large upon Lequizamos is no stranger to drag, having appeared in the horizon of my word processor, I turn to my incoming HBO specials portraying female and TV characters. He's mail file to see if anyone sent any crossdresser jokes to going to be busy after Wong Foo wraps 'cause he's going to replace my closing quotes. Ah, alas, no. It seems no one be starring in a new show for Fox TV called House of thought I was serious when I said I'd make up my own Buggin'. No word on the characters he will play, but if any joke (no pun intended). I refuse to be held responsible. of them wears a dress we'll let you know. You had your chance. Did I say new show? 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-- JoAnn Roberts

Veritas numquam perit - Truth never perishes. 50%, respectively). There were several strong opinions •v• about IFGE and Tri-Ess, which in no way surprises me at Dina Amberle commented in the September issue of all. Renaissance News & Views that some folks don't like the •T.A idea of commentary on their newsletters from outside the Everybody is getting into the drag act and just maybe drag organization. My response to that has always been ... "then is getting a little more respectable, even in the gay don't put controversial stuff in your newsletters." If you community. The fall preview catalog from Shocking Gray publish it, we have every right to our opinion, and every has two pages of drag related items for him and her, right to express that opinion. It's called Freedom ~f the 11 including a slim fitting, easy step-in, feather-appointed Press, you know, First Amendment and all that ... I get my elastic dress covered in shimmering sequins ($139.95)" share of such letters, like the brief note I received from 11 11 and a 100% durable cotton marine-style T-shirt" for the The Phillipses, of Texas 11T fame. Cynthia (the one with more macho of the ladies. There is even a tiara for $26.95 the cigar) wrote that I must be a very unhappy person and that comes with the warning "Avoid wearing dwing very angry to be so negative. What the Ms. Phillips (plural) electrical storms." Well, it ain't exactly Frederick's of take for negativism is my proactive position against Hollywood or Vernon's Specialties, but their hearts are in hypocrisy and bigotry within our own community. Call me the right place. Two items that may be of some real a cynic, but I get really pissed-off when some of our own interest are a Camp Calendar featuring notable Female pretend to work on behalf of the community while put~g impersonators in and out of drag (Item #40029, $10.99), self-aggrandizement, self-interest, and personal gam and Pussy Tourette, a collection of comedy and music by ahead of any community motive. Like, what ever happened Ms. Tourette (Audio tape Item #41302, $9.95). Shocking to that monumental survey the Phillips promised the Gray can be reached at 800-788-4729. community they'd get published in a refereed journal? Last 1 heard, they were hawking the survey results for $5.00 a copy ... although they also sent copies with the last issue of Let the community beware!·~· Renaissance received a letter Gender Euphoria (which is not exactly a 11 refereed from a group calling themselves "Freedom Associates." The journal"). If that's what they call community service, I'll letter purports to help you raise up to $300,000 in a year by pass. sending them $30 a month. In reality, this is nothing more than a chain-letter and it is illegal, regardless of the claim ...... to the contrary in the letter. The mail-forwarding service I've been telling you in the last several issues about on our letter is Broadview Associates, P.O. Box 2314, connecting to the Internet. One of the curious things I Livonia MI 48isl. If you or your organization receive such found on the net was that most of the postings in the a letter, send it off to your state's Attorney General's transgender newsgroups made no mention of the office. Don't be a sucker. organized comm unity we all know and love out here (as opposed to "in there"). So, I posted a m~ssage with three survey questions just to see how commumty-aware the net If you haven't gotten your·~· patent leather fix for Fall, you is. Here are the results of that survey, based on 36 received still have time. Patent leather seems to be the accessory de responses: . rigueur this season. If you opt for a jacket, make sure it's The most recognized organizations are Tn-Ess and IFGE black, otherwise it won't much go with anything else. Of (tied at 89%), with AEGIS next (75~). In term~ of course, patent shoes are always in style, or a patent purse. publications, Tapestry is the most widely reco_gmz:d One tip: go lightly. Don't gleam for head to toe with patent publication (92%) with Chrysalis Quarterly commg m leather. It looks tacky. second ( 64%) and the magazine you're reading (Cross-Talk) third with 58%. As for events, the Texas 11T11 .,,.A Want to have some dress-up fun and raise a little money Party is the best known of gender events (69% ), followed for your group? Why not hold a Worst Bridesmaid Outfit by Southern Comfort and California Dreamin' (56% and contest and invite the public? I've seen it done in 10

-----~-- l Philadelphia and it looks like quite a bit of fun. Every semi-permanent waffle pattern on your legs, wear nude woman has at least one really ugly Bridesmaid dress in Lycra hose under the fishnets. her closet, so if you can't buy one, you can probably borrow .&YA one. My good friend and Reba McEntire impersonator, Kelly .AT.A Sheriden, let me in on a little secret about MA.C. Here are some tips from Cosmo to pep up your wardrobe ... cosmetics, which I have touted here many times. The All you crossdressers with a 11thing'' for cheerleader outfits Toronto-based company makes a line of theatrical will be "in11 this Fall. Cheerleader skirts at one hot item ... foundations in addition to their regular daytime makeup Narrow, "cigarette-leg'' pants are in ... Knee-length skirts bases. Kelly says the MA.C. stuff is the greatest, but the and dresses ... Anything velvet ... Black hose (when did they only hitch is that the theatrical stuff is only available in two go "out?") ... Jeans and slim skirts in leather ... Slip dresses locations, the MA.C. store in NYC and the one in Los and jumpers over knit tops and turtlenecks ... Anything Angeles. At either place, if you hold a SAG card or can silver. Give away, or desttoy anything that is grunge or prove you're a bona-fide drag queen, they'll give you a waif. Dump the hlking boots, too. Spikes are hot. professional discount. Now, that's courtesy! .AT.A .AT.A As for hair, blondes are back. Go Golden, not Ash. By the Oh, yeah, before I forget. Lady Di from Vernon's way, the older you get, the lighter your hair should get. Specialties sent me some samples of large-sized, hinged Dark hair ages you. bracelets. They come in enameled color finishes as well as goldtone and silvertone. All are hinged and some have a .... safety chain and they're just darling. If you're looking for The HotBuzz about suits is the length of the skirt. The that perfect bracelet to complete an outfit, get in touch with latest craze is the extra short skirt under the suit jacket. Vernon's by calling 800-227-0605. Prices start at about $15. This has been dubbed the Melrose Place suit after the television show of the same name. Looks like the trend .AT.A was held over for Models, Inc., too. Just be careful if you Quote of the month: "The best high-heeled shoes should have to bend over. A sight ....like that could scare the horses. never be used for walking. 11. Ann... Magnuson inAllure. Here's an interesting tidbit about David Bowie as told by I told you about the fracas over holding part of the Summer him to Cosmo. "When I first became well-known, I told Olympics in Cobb County, Georgia, where the county reporters I was bisexual. For most of the period when I commissioner passed an anti-gay statement. Well, the gay was going through the bisexual thing, my attraction was community seems to have won out. First, one of the always to really beautiful transvestites or drag queens. But daughters of the head of the county commission came out I was never gay or a transvestite. And it wasn't long as a lesbian. Then the backlash of gay/lesbian protests and before I realized I was truly heterosexual." the threat of an economic boycott. led Olympic officials to move the volleyball contests to another venue. Alternative .AY.& Lifestyles: 1, Rednecks: 0. As if saying it simply makes it so, Allure magazine has declared Drag is Dead. Yep, Drag is on the "Noe' side of .AT.A their "Not & Hot11 list. Que/le Domagel We shall all have to Among the many fads for Fall that are hot right now, just give it up and find something else to occupy our time. there's one that will be dear to the hearts of many TVs - NOT! Don't believe everything you read. What do a bunch corselettes. Yes, those waist-nipping, bust-building, boned of fashion editors know about drag anyway?!? We've only body builders are showing up everywhere and sometimes just seen the tip of the 'berg. Two more movies are due Ed Wood starring Johnny Depp as the crossdressing Wood, and To Wong Foo with Swazye, Snipes and Leguizamos. CATALOGS Hell, we're jes gettin' started. By the time this drag-wave hits its peak, every kid in the hood will be doin' drag just to $10 be cool. AVA The HotBuzz on hosiery seems to be fishnets. I know I mentioned this before, but perhaps you thought the Queen was off her heels. Just about every single fashion ad has CROWNING GLORY WIGS shown the models in fishnets. Hey, they're great for :1775 PAlllC BLVD. SAN n11mo,CA .. n210:1 clubbing, but get real for daytime. Also, if you don't want a 11 on the outside of the clothing. Look for new styles in colors like peach and sand, in addition to old standby black. WHAT'S ON THE TV TONIGHT? ...... Cartoons by Christine-Jane Wilson Shameless plug (why else do you think I write this A book of nearly 100 cartoons dmwn by Chrishne.Jan• Wilson. In th• column?) I haven't been sleeping all summer. CDS is magazine 'Forum', editor Isabel KoproW5ki wrote: • - the answer" not EcJt· Enders. you'll be glad to hear. but delicious feminine clothing such as lacy bras."" planning to release several revised publications and at inch stilettos and the sheerest of stockings. . "What's on the JV Tonight? is a charming cartoon book depicting transv~1 es least one new one ... Alison Laing has been hard at work in a varieryof amusing situations. Because It Is the crea hon of a TV, none o th~r "'; on the second edition of Speaking As A Woman, which Christine.Jane Wilson. the editor of The Glad Rog, the book always laughs '."'th .~~. at. transvestites. The author dm\115 on her own expenence. as well as her una~ should be available around Christmas. Alison has ti on. to produce cartoons showing the dreadfully embarrasS1ng things that can ap: pen to lVs , whether In social or family context. But it's not blushes all the ;ay; revamped the only book on feminine speech based on her some pages glow 1111th the positive pnde a cross·dresser may feel when foun ou experience teaching her techniques at seminars all over ~~-~ "Transvestttes will Identify with the author and find the book '."assuring ~~;h" the country. While she doesn't promise you'll sound like as amusing. Everyone will be touched by the sensitivity and delicacy With Christine.Jane treats the difficulties of being a nr. just like a female, you can develop a more feminine voice ... The 1995 Who's Who & Resource Guide to the FUTURES EXCHANGE Transgender Community will be along in November, still only $10. The '95 edition has a greatly expanded caregiver A FANTASY OF CROSS-GENDER by Sarah Woo~ section. I did a mailing to over 1000 professionals and the Charles Merchant, a life-long tronsuestltc. awakes - in the body of his ortrocn~•i::,. sonol assistant. Jenny Page . . . from there, Soron weoues on intriguing on "' response was overwhelming. The number of counseling wntten story, beautifully illustrated by the talented Emma resources in this edition is staggering. There are also a number of additions to the Who's Who section ... Finally, TO_ORDER , send $5.oo us tor What's On The TV Tonight? or $8.00 US for Futures Exchange to: the long-awaited monograph The Straight Dope On KRIS Publications Hormones by Delia Van Maris, M.D., will be available in 239 Prestcn Road, Rear Wembley, Middlesex HA9 BPE, U.K. November. Add $2.50 per book for airmail shipping . ALSO · · Jane's AVAILABLE: He//-· It's Heaven, Chri~tine· . 1h lots Copyrigltt 1994 by Creative Design Services. All rights reserved. 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Letters to the editor and reader feedback

Re "HotBuzz" (#59): JoAnn Roberts states, "Anyone who Actually, I think CDs have as firm a grasp on reality as presents them selves as a female in cyberspace is any TS. We know what we are, and we know what we are presumed to be male until proven otherwise. All you not. In general, we have no desire to be women for the trans-whatevers aren't fooling anyone on the Net." I have rest of our lives, but we can not really be happy being only been on America OnLine (AOL) for about a men, either. Gender is a social construct, a role everyone year-and-a-half, much of that time under my "official" is assigned to play throughout life. We play two roles; screen name (I host the Sunday Gender Conference on therefore, we are transgendered. AOL, and monitor a chat in a lesbian area). Both my For Ms. Blackwood, TSs have always been women; they screen name and my logon ID are female, and have a are trying to shape their reality to reflect that. Therefore, female profile. As such, I am always assumed to be female she says, TSs are trans-sexual, not trans-gendered. except by the most suspicious and paranoid folks, which ... What Ms. Blackwood has failed to take into account is a well, I've only come across enough of 'em to count on one lifetime of living one role, then switching to live the other hand. role. TSs cross from one gender role to the other; My situation is not rare, I may add -- most of the rest of therefore, they are transgendered. the community has reported similar situations. I have read arguments that TVs and TS are the same, just However, I do see plenty of people with non-gendered at different places on a continuum. I have read arguments names (a screen name that is not a female surname, i.e.: that TVs and TS are different. I, personally, think they are pinhead, Quirk, or even edspub, for that matter) be different ... just how different, I am not quite sure. When assumed to be male, but usually due to their actions more the TSs claim that they are not a part of the larger than some Internet social rule. community, though, I don't agree. We may have our As I mentioned above, I also monitor a lesbian room. differences within the community, but our views of gender, Often people will come in, either with female or and what it means, are very much different from the views genderless names (or even their regular male screen held by the rest of society. Whatever else, we have that in names, sometimes!) and say that they are female. They common. also are usually rude, obnoxious, and often are trolling for We are all unique; being together in a single community cybersex. And yes, they are usually considered to be male. does not diminish our uniqueness. TVs and TSs must both These traits, I may add, are not what I normally see in that deal with the reality of living in our society. Most people in room from its regulars. our society don't understand anything about us. Too many But I merely wanted to refute the "blanket statement" you people are hostile to us. If, because each of us is a little had put in your column. We aren't all assumed male ... at different from the others, we all go our separate ways, least not on America OnLine. there will be no community. Then we will be destroyed, Gwen Smith separately, until we are gone. via Internet all Roberta Steel via Internet Re "Deep Thoughts (not by Jack Handey)", Cogito Ergo Fem (#58): Ms. Blackwood's column left me feeling rather f Editor's Note: Ms. Steel is the editor of Muliebrity, the newsletter of the annoyed. "Even before I realized that I am transsexual it Sunshine Club, Springfield MA, and this letter also appeared in the was my opinion that we are not one united transgendered September issue of that newsletter.] group." Alas, this is not the first time I have seen such statements by TSs. Re "On Being Responsible", Cogito Ergo Fem (#59):1 Why am I annoyed? Her premise is that crossdressers are found Anne Blackwood's column irresponsible beyond just playing out a fantasy of being women, while TSs are belief. It is full of homophobia and sex negativism. trying to make their place in the real worl~. This, she There are billions of people on the planet, and every one claims makes TVs and TSs fundamentally different; TSs of them is here because of an act that carries the risk of aren't 'really transgendered, they are somehow above it all, HIV transmission. Sexual behavior is part and parcel of and are not part of the transgender community. being human. Those with HIV are not the ones who 13 engage in high-risk behavior; they are merely the ones people for whom I do Jzave sympathy, let me point out that who are unlucky. by example I listed two distinct classes of people, those that Ms. Blackwood states she has no sympathy for those who did it to themselves, and those that had it done to them. My acquire HIV except through blood transfusions or from lack of sympathy is only for the f onner; however, these are blood clotting factors. What of babies born with the not times when one can blindly trust anyone about their HIV disease? What about rape victims? What about hospital status, no matter how much you may think you love them. workers? What about Kimberly Bergalis, who acquired the As for Kimberly Berga/is, and the other patients of her disease from her dentist? What about those who, believing dentist, there is evidence that they did not contraet the their relationship is monogamous, contract the disease disease from him. There was evidence which did not come from their partners? What about persons who are unable out at the trial that painted a very different picture 0~ to understand the consequences of their actions, or those filmberly, one which showed that she engaged in risky sexua who do not know how to protect themselves? What about practices,· and for her it was, perhaps, easier· to blame her. those who acquire the disease from a simple kiss or other dentist than to admit to her family that she was s/eepm~ "low-risk" behaviors? And yes, what about those who took a around. And before you dismiss this possibility, let me te .t gamble and lost? Are we to point our fingers at them and you th at a very close fnend. of mme's . son was accused OJd say "We told you so! Kindly go die on someone else's rape by a girl. (his . own age, 14, at the time. ) who himha lawn." I guess so, if we are like Ms. Blackwood. consented to and enjoyed sex with him, only to accuse . 'S easier Ms. Blackwood's column is not, in fact, a commentary of rape when her Catholic parents found out. It wa h m about responsibility, as she claims. It is a commentary on 0 for her to lie about what went on between the two [ t e d hating those who are less fortunate than ourselves. than to admit to her parents that she was sexually actJve an Dallas Denny, M.A. enjoying it. . k" Executive Director, American Educational Gender Information Service As fior "'iow-nsk · ,' behaviors the onerahve· won· d ti 1ere is "ris le• Decatur, GA , r if peop If Ms. Denny knows of any documented cases 0 .t J · boUtl· [Anne Blackwood replies: As to the charge that I promote getting HW from merely kissing, I'd like to know a . t}iot homophobia, balderdash. The friend I wrote about was gay, will bet that those reports are anecdotal. The fact ,IS think people lie about their behaviors so that others won l ,;ng and I never have g!ven a damn about how anyone loves. J ·A laJOW• can see how someone may misinterpret my comments about th e worse of them. "Oh, we only kissed," she satu, staying out of the gay/bi communities in the early '80s as full well they'd f-ed their brains out. ble and being homophobic, but the real reason is that while condoms About those who gamble and lose? You took the gaJTJ you were promoted as a way of reducing the risk, my faith in you lost. No one held a gun to your head. You gamb/~, as l' . As Jar them was zero. as at one time I had three condoms (high ive ~zth the consequences, or die with them. t were quality, brand name) fail in a row. Now is that homophobia wanting them to die on someone else's lawn: Jfha 'd be th · wou1' or just lack of faith in a product borne of experience? More ey doing on my lawn in the first place? Yes, it . 't and to the point, though, the desire to remain healthy can hardly wonderful if there were a cure fior AIDS, but there isn ·n the be equated with homophobia. You, Ms. Denny, know that. There isn't likely to be one' Next, the sex act from which we all originate is not foreseeable future either, and you know that too. /'!11 just 7 inherently one which carries the risk of HW transmission. Are you advocating people play Russian Roulette· II tJie One of the partners must already be infected for that to s?ing, "There is a bullet in that gun, and if you p~1 a/ogY happen. So let us rid ourselves of that misconception, shall triooer00 [' . Ji d your a .f m not going to mourn you." I also n 111 e OJ we? To dismiss those who act i"esponsibly as mere/ between sex an d gamblmg. cunous . when you accuse "unlucky" is an act of intellectual dishonesty, or the act ~ sex negativism. (l}Jd someone who themselves does not want to admit their own l feet _no need to apologize for writing the trll;itl to lack of judgement or willingness to take responsibility, which expressing what many people are thinking but are t"· f'/11 amounts to the same thing. say because it would be viewed as 'p' o/itically incorrec ss'' iS an Am . . . rrectne As for the fact that I didn't go on and on listing all the encan, and the notion of ''political co contrary to th . . e spint of the Constitution.]

Cross-Talk is proud t 0 available at Barnes & ~nnounce that we a Bookstop, and Doub/ea ob/e, Bookstar B re now the gender community ~ IBo~ks. Ten Y~ur frie~~!o'.7, yo~r 1.ocal store doesn't caoo for us there and '~f penod1cals mana rry Cross T ... 1 Print Distributors!ger to order us from our-frf lkd, tell ~he en sat Fine 14 Re "Stepping Over The Line", Kymberleigh's Clipboard should I use the word "deviate"? (#60): I saw my first copy of Transformati.on at a comer Some things and some people are best left in the closet. bookstore across from the University of Florida campus. It Delia Van Maris, M.D. was in the gay /lesbian/alternative lifestyle section and vialmemet not with the porn stuff. That dismays me, as I would not describe this publication as one that would be of interest to [Editor's Note: The following letter was sent in late August the CD or the TS. It appeals to the prurient interests of a by Linda Buten, Chair of the IFGE Board of Directors, to group of men who fantasize about "she-males". (And that's the leadership of the Southern California transgender fine, because I think there are a lot of them. I think it is a community in the aftermath of the miscommunication way to be gay without actually having to admit it.) regarding the 1997 IFGE convention which I commented on But one of our biggest problems with the public at large is in #58 ("Could We Please Talk To each Other?'~ convincing them that the CD tries to separate sex from Kymberleigh's Clipboard). Ms. Buten has subsequently gender. The "dressing'' activities are not directed toward granted us permission to publish it verbati.m and without attracting sexual partners. Now of course, there is that comment. Although it is decidedly not a "letter to the editor'~ small contingent that would suggest that this is not true we offer it to our readers as another perspective.] (blatant she-male ads, contained in Transformation #5). The point is that if the magazine does indeed have access I'd like to make a public comment concerning the to the mainstream, we all get labelled. convention for LA. I am anything but naive, and quite honestly dismayed at I don't have the time, nor do I want to expend the effort to the determinations and generalizations that could result detail or try to rationalize what's been said on this matter from such a magazine. I am husband, father, heterosexual, over the past months. professional, grandfather, teacher and many other things. There appears to be concern about IFGE planning the The diversity that is 11us 11 does not escape me and I don't "Coming Together" convention in Southern California in pretend to be the mean, median, or mode. Many of us will 1997, and the possibility of it hurting the attendance of wear a distasteful label if this periodical presents us all California Dreamin' '97. Therefore I feel obligated to with a particular slant. speak. How did they achieve such widespread circulation and I want to first clear up some misconceptions. IFGE is accomplish the impossible task of placing their product on governed by a board of directors. All major programs, such the average newsstand? The editorial in issue #5 is as the "Coming Together11 conventions are approved by the unrealistic. It states that "the more copies we get out there, Board. Merissa [Sherrill Lynn] is the convention director. the more people will understand who we are ... 11 Her job is to put together future conventions as well as Uh-huh. "Freaks and perverts" ... organize current ones. She reports quarterly on all As to copyright infringement, I am very sensitive to that convention-related matters. At the summer board meeting, issue, but not in the same context. For example, at a recent she reported that the desired site for 1997 is LA. She says national meeting, a major review session was devoted to a . that many individuals over the past few years have line of research/investigation that I have labored in for repeatedly asked, "When is it Southern California's turn?" some twenty years. The first slide shown by the speaker to She stated that she is currently conducting a preliminary a room of 1000 people came directly from my work, with study on hotels. She also stated that Melissa Foster has no credit as to source. Even worse, the slide was a drawing been asked to speak with the individuals in her area to that I had actually drawn myself, personally, with my own find who would be interested in the convention. She also two hands ... talk about pride of ownership! noted that New Orleans would also like to be considered This plagiarism cannot be tolerated. It labels the rest of us for 1997. At the outset of her report, concerns were with yet another fringe designation; that we are outlaws, brought up, since the preclusion of problems had already unwilling to comply with publication standards, legal and surfaced. ethical, and -- by inference -- sexual outlaws as well. Or Obviously, Merissa's letters were very disturbing to certain

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15 members of the gender community in Southern California, WHEREAS, this entity over the next several months when she announced word of an IFGE convention for LA. diligently comprises all thoughts and concerns of the Her intent was to get people interested and get a feel for organizations, and the participation she could expect from the area. WHEREAS, this appointed entity attends the 1994 Tri-Ess Regardless of what you have heard, there have been Holiday En Femme this fall in New York City, and individuals who have invited IFGE to bring the convention WHEREAS, on Saturday, November U, the entity meets to Southern California. Some don't belong to any with Linda Buten, Merissa Sherrill Lynn, members of the organized group. But then, who has the right to speak for program committee, and present members of the Board of everyone else? IFGE, to discuss this matter through arbitration in a sane Problems have arisen in the past in multi-organizational and intelligent matter, and cities when one group was approached or spoke up before THEREFORE BE IT SAID, that by the end of the day, a the other. Also, IFGE has found that getting local support final conclusion will be arrived at as to a yea or nay to the too early from one partipular group can be troublesome. Coming Together convention in 1997 in Southern Leaders and organizations can make some drastic changes California. in a few short years. Some actually dissolve or reorganize I hope this will be acceptable, since as Directors for IFGE, and it's not unusual for feuding because of personality we must move forward on this matter. conflicts. Most of the local individuals who do help with the This constant jawing, especially in newsletters, does convention are acting independently in their efforts, and nothing to strengthen the gender community. It only shows though we recognize the group from which they belong, those whom we try to educate that we have not reached the most groups are not organized to the point that we receive professionalism , we so desperately need for future a board resolution inviting IFGE. Also, most local acceptance. involvement is usually within 12 months of the convention, If these terms are acceptable, I would like some not three years previous, so don't get too excited about documentation, perhaps signed by the local leaders, being uninformed. showing our board your willingness for cooperation. Merissa has a gift for putting together good conventions. As the chair of the IFGE Board, I speak on behalf of the Unfortunately, she no tolerance nor the ability to deal with whole board, and I can assure you we will commit to doing the political gender: arena of Southern California. everything possible to bring this to an equitable demise. . Recent correspondence and articles sound like IFGE is Linda Buten moving in on LA. turf if one likes it or not. This is not the Chair, IFGE Board of Directors case. Regardless of what you have heard, as of this date, the Board of Directors has not approved the LA. area for the Vox Populi is the gender community's "town square" for the 1997 convention site. exchange of opinions and ideas. If you have a response to I have heard quite a few negative comments to date from any editorial, news item, or article appearing in some individuals. I don't know if what I read is individual Cross-Talk, please feel free to contribute. We suggest opinions or official statements from the local groups' keeping letters t? 400 words (one page typewritten or directors and/or leaders. zooo. characters ASCII). Cross-Talk reserves the right to I will say I find this mess most confusing and disturbing. I publish . only those portions of a letter specifically would like to think we are all on the same team. IFGE's addressmg the issue. Personal attacks will not be next board meeting will be held at the Holiday En Femme published. in November. I would therefore like to make the following You may write us at P.O. Box Woodland resolution: 944, Hills CA 91365; fax us at (818) 347-4190· d - ail to Kummer WHEREAS, the groups from Southern California who have . , or sen e m ';/. via Cross Connection, to [email protected] via Internet, an interest for involvement, choose a single individual or coalition to speak on their behalf, and or to Kymberleigh Richards at [1:124/3103] via Fidonet. We also accept DOS ASCII files on disk at our P.O. Box.

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by Virginia Prince

The second question in the title of this month's column -- quarrel, fight, and, among young humans, do anything that the "why' -- has been around since the beginning of time, will bring them attention. My assertion that 11women just it seems, but I would like to ask it anyway ....not in an are, men are always trying to become" expresses this etiological sense but rather in conjunction wi~ the first concisely. Thus men are always doing something to attract question about women. attention to themselves which is a way of saying, 11 Hey look "What's so great?" can be asked in a broad sociological at me. I may not be able to make a baby but I am an sense and also in a narrow personal sense as "what do important person." women mean to me?" Actually I think I am asking_ it in a There are three ways that men can handle this situation much broader sense (no pun intended): Why does society vis a vis women: They can resort to machoism by put a special and greater value on women than on men? attempting to "prove" their importance and superiority to The phrase "women and children ....-mz-.imm:m::mi::ca:m::o:s:Em:1=::izn:mz::c::a:m=m=ma::i::::mic:sz:z:111!11!1::1=i "lowly' women who aren't as big, first" states the case quite bluntly. or as strong ... and until recently Women are more valued because Men tend t 0 be en vi 0 us were not as smart because they they are females. Females can didn't have access to the education, bring forth babies and raise them of n at being cu rt ai Ie d in opportunity and experience that to adulthood. Babies, infants and their Self-expreSSiOn by men had; they can just resign children comprise the next social roles. themselves to the situation, not generation and satisfy the adults recognize the need to do anything longing for immortality. We can't about it and thus just stew in their have it on our own but we ·can own juice; or they can be envious achieve it in some sense through our children. It takes a of women and desire to share in some of their social male's sperm to start the process to be sure but it is advantages (if not their biological advantages). possible to initiate the process through what is termed This third solution is what leads to crossdressing. "parthenogenesis" which means, in effect; virgin birth. That In the last analysis, in spite of all the high falutin' answers is, cell division is started by the prick of a needle or some to the "what and why' questions, I believe it boils down to other means of stimulating the egg to divide. envy. Whenever a person, (regardless of sex), sees another That cannot be done with a sperm. For one thing, eggs person (also regardless of sex) who has something the first have a lot of nutrients built in to them which enable a person does not have -- be it money, material possessions, fertilized egg to divide and which feeds the resulting new talent, authority, ability, personality or whatever -- there is cells. Sperms have no such food supply. They are essentially a desire on the part of the less fortunate one to envy the just little packets of chromosomes which must be inserted one who is better off. Let's face it. Women are frequently into the egg to provide the necessary hereditary material. envious of men for their opportunities, power, greater So the females of our -- and every other -- species are earning capacity, freedom or whatever, i.e., for qualities essentially more important than the male. This fact doesn't they do not have. So it is not surprising that men envy mean much in the lower animals, but in humans (who women but not for the same things that women are have developed the capacity to think and to be self aware) envious of obviously -- they already have them. Men tend to it is very significant. It is hard on the ego of thinking men be envious of not being curtailed in their self-expression to realize and accept that he is unable to do what females by social rules which dictate what they ~an and can't do, can do and that his only actual purpose in the scheme of should and shouldn't do. Well, women used to be curtailed, things is to introduce variety into the reproduction process but in the last century they have broken out of the and thus make evolution possible. As a compensation stereotypes to an amazing degree. It was called "women's males have always tried to show that they really are liberation" and women have it ... men don't. important by using their two principle assets; the fact that This can be seen not only in clothes but in behavior, they are both bigger and stronger than females. Thus they attitudes and expectations. These are the (continued, page 20) 17 INSIGHT

INTERVIEW WITH A DAUGHTER

by Barbara Jean Jasen

Almost two years ago, in the Tri-Ess magazine Femme who has an immense love for her father, a love that would Mi"or there was an article entitled 11 Interview with a make any father proud of his son or daughter. f 11 Daughter • Part of it reads: But sad to say, I also see pain. Because of Alice's love or "I'm 11 years old and my name is Alice. I found my dad's her father she is willing to give up part of what wo~~ be a suitcase full of women's clothes in the basement about six normal childhood for a little girl. While Alice is willing~~ months before my parents told me anything about Joanne. give up of herself for her father, 1 don't think she sho They never knew that I knew and I didn't tell them. have to. Is it right that she can not have friends coDle over, When my parents told me about Joanne they explained her is it right that she can not have things like a slUIJl~e~ in a very open minded way. I was curious about how Jo party? These are things that are important to a little~ looked, so they showed me a photograph. things that she can share with her children when the tiJile At first I thought it was Halloween. They promised me that comes. d hadn't chanoed, that he was the same as he always was. In Ali al c 1 The nee Dad o ce 1 so see the pain that many wives 1ee · h It was important for me to------~to keep things a secret and th: understand this and it made me that s need to have someone 'th feel a little better. H h can talk to and share feeling W1 ~ The way I see it, Joanne wants to OW !11UC ~Ormal ity is The fear of what might happen understand more about women there 1n causing pa"1n for she did confide in someo ne · ""1:ce and that's why she likes to dress th · le ~ up like one. ose we I0 ve? Elsewhere in the arUC l~ at her Some of my friends were over one said that some of the peo!:irortable day, and one girl noticed how long father's group werhe un:~ the club my dad's fingernails were. I told when they saw er onlY 11, her my dad was an electrician and needed his nails to work simply because she w_as e of the and yet how much better would it be for Alice if on .. ,bo with long wires. 0 th kn w vr f am /earning to cope with stress because of my dad's hobby. er members had a son or a daughter who e ' have I worry that one of my friends might drop in when he's also attended the meeting so that Alice would dressed up. My mom and I are the only ones who know, and :meone she could talk to and confide in. . that sometimes I think I want to tell one of my friends, but I am crossdressers we have strived hard to show societY tber we are normal al . . "'"ress ra afraid they will not understand. It's hard keeping a secret. I th m es who snnply WISh to e~r IJlucb an't have anyone over for a slumber party because Daddu's an suppress our feminine qualities. But hoW ve? C "' normality · . . we 10 dressed up. I go out with mom and Joanne for dinner, and •s there m causmg pain for those e of I'm afraid someone will see us, even though we go to Gr?~~s should provide more in the line of fa.11lil~ tYP . activit1es t · · · d }1ildren smaller out of the way places. p ' ac IVIties that do involve the wives an c l]lote 1 .d .r erhaps Joann ·ght at a If / hadn't heard about the goo d s1 e O; crossdressing from h e could arrange to spend a Ill he ca11 t my mom and dad, I might not h ave un d erstood their side of so at Alice co uld have a slumber party. Perhaps s dress, the story. If I had learned about how some other people arra;ige a few nights per week where she does n""~~ce call think of it, like the ones that don't like it or think it's bad it ohr oes not dress before a certain hour so that .f'U"fr·,, ds ave fri d . 's 1"' 11 would be harder for me to accept my dad when he does it. en s come over. I am certain that A}ice f tbe 0 f think they told me about it at the right time. I want to be wwoukld understand if Alice said that certain da7s d uo 11 an actress, so I unuerstan" d a b ou t h avmg· fu n dressing up." f ee. dWere f am ily days where it was only the f atJl ilY anne to Joanne ought to be very proud of her daughter Alice. To nen s at her house This f uld alloW Joa of come · o course wo fears have a son or a daughter that knows, accepts and _ . out at home and still li Alice of her friends dro . . re eve understands is something that I think all crossdressers 1 h PPmg in when Joanne was around. has as who are parents desire. In this article I see a little girl mu~~~othat_ Joanne sees this article, and that she age 20) 18 ve for her daughter as Alice has (contin11ed, p WOMAN TO WOMAN

ENVIRONMENTS OF OUR MINDS & HEARTS

by Linda Peacock

I have a friend (whom I've never met) who is a poet, and a encourage free thinking; rather, we are "thought for." good one. He writes poetry twice -- once on a As a woman married to a man who crossdresses, I faced non-crossdressing level and again on a crossdressing exactly what each of you faces. I had been 11thought for" by level. In other words, he writes a poem, then readjusts it to my parents, my teachers, other family members and my how he feels when crossdressed. He recently asked me my first husband. Anyone "different" was perverted, a filthy opinion of his work, and I told him that I felt his work was creature. I have heard my father speak venomously against far more powerful when expressed on a non-crossdressing the gays -- yet, as far as I know, he has never personally level; that I found the message could easily be interpreted met or known a gay person. Society told him they were all on different levels, according to --~------11 bad" people, and of course, to him, what was going on in the society is right. He has never reader's mind. I felt that the allowed himself to think of these emphasis on his crossdressing From birth, we are people as human beings, who live took away rrom the message itself Iit ral Iy at the mercy of their lives feeling the same -- and urged him to concentrate 9 feelings we who are heterosexual on his poetic messages to be 0 u r 0 uts id e environ men t . feel, loving, laughing, hurting, accessible to the minds of crying ··· that one has a different everyone. sexual preference in no way Having the gift of composing makes them less human or not as thoughts on paper is admirable and enviable. In fact, worthy as us. having the ability to be able to put your thoughts and So, in meeting and falling in love with a man who was so dreams into words that others can grasp and enjoy and obviously different from other men I had dated, and think about is a true gift, and one which should not be certainly a far cry from my first husband, I had to put aside taken lightly. all that I had been infused with over the years, and begin The interesting thing about being a writer is how two thinking for myself. I had to begin weighing the pros and people can interpret what you write so differently. It is cons, and I had to begin making my own decisions. much like a piece of music in that each of us hears it Basically, I see it as a maturing of the environment of my differently, and either likes or dislikes it. mind. My body was grown up, and now it was time for my The gifts of music and writing are received so differently mind to grow up. because the environments of our minds are so different. I realized that the decisions I had to make about this man Have you ever thought about how truly unique you are in who ~ad t~en over my h~art n.eeded to be made quickly. the wholeness of space and time? There is no one else, Happmess 1s often a fleetmg thing, a quick cool breeze in past, present or future who was, is or will be identical to the heat of daily life, and often it blows quickly out leavin . aliz' h , g you. you are a rare and special creature, wh o has us JUSt re mg ow close it had come to us ... and we intelligence, thought process, the ability to distinguish hadn't felt it. between right and wrong, to have emotions, such as joy or This man_ was a sensitive, caring person, who felt deeply sorrow, jubilation or pain. and emotionally, who saw in me something far better than When we are born, we are like vessels ready to be filled I saw in myself, who desired my mind and heart as much with a magic solution which places us in society. We are as he desired my body. He wanted me enough to take the innocent, unknowing of all but sound and light and chance to share his innermost secret -- that he huilger and pain. From birth begins the infusion of crossdressed -- knowing that he might well lose me. society's interpretation of right and wrong, positivism and And had I allowed all the preconceived notions about negativism, guilt, pride, likes and dislikes. From birth, we people who were "different" to dominate my mind, I would are literally at the mercy of our outside environment and have left. Instead, I chose to change the environment of my unfortunately, many such outside environments do not mind, to be fair to him and look at him in his entirety, 19 rather than just this one peculiar facet of his personality. enough to take the chance to tell you before you married I made my decision quickly and have never looked back. him, and to realize that you deserve and have a right to His crossdressing has been a burden at times, confining, such chances. Your husband needs to understand how even oppressive once in awhile, but when I look at all the important trust is in your relationship -- for without trust, good that comes from this man, the obvious mental there is no relationship, but instead, simple joint existence. connection we have, I find his crossdressing has no impact That is not living, it is simply 1'being there.11 And your on our relationship at all -- and I encourage him to husband needs to recognize how extraordinary and rare participate in it as much as he feels he needs to. I do not you really are. He needs to cherish you, encourage you, be look at his exterior person -- I only see who lives inside. there for you. I realize that my story is different from yours, and in many Perhaps with such giving on his part, it will become easier cases, your husbands or partners did not choose to tell you on your part to give back to him -- once you have regained before you made a commitment, and therefore, did not give the trust level you need, once you feel loved and cherished, you the choice to stay or leave. I can't offer you the magic it might be so much easier for you to look on a mature and potion that make indiscretion go away. And yes, I will this honest level at his dressing, and make rational decisions - feel that this is a type of indiscretion, for it is a betrayal of perhaps changing the environment of your mind, thinking your trust. You were not given a chance to change the your own thoughts, being you ... the unique and special you environment of your mind until commitment was made, that you are. and he felt "safe.11 I don't condone what he has done. However, in spite of the loss of trust you must feel, it is not [Linda Peacock is the Tri-Ess director of wives' and partners' concerns, an too late for both of you to change the environments of your IFGE board member, and chair of the SPICE board of directors. She also minds. For you, there is a chance to put aside all you have publishes_ the quanerly newsletter for wives and panners The Sweetheart heard or been indoctrinated with by society, and give Connecuon, and may be reached by mail at P.O. Box 24031, Lillie Rock AR 72221 or by phone at (501) 227-8798.) yourself the opportunity to learn about his crossdressing and to see if you can live with this part of him. You can - make the decision of how much you can tolerate or accept -- and you can make the decision to stay or leave. It is GRACE AND LACE LETTER more difficult, it is true, at this point in the relationship, A Publication for Christian Crossdressen especially when there are children involved, but you cannot lee Frances Heller Publisher P. 0. Box 31253 live the rest of your life in a turmoil about his dressing; Jackson. MS 39286-1253 you have a right to have a peaceful environment of your 601 ·362·6335 mind, of your heart, of your soul. And only you can give SUBSCRIPTIONS ARE FREE yourself this gift. SEND FOR "fl. SP..M.PLE COPY Your husband or partner, too, can change -- in that he realizes what a cruel thing he has done in not trusting you

VIRGIN VIEWS .•. continued from page 17 INSIGHT . -- sources of envy. Obviously, the solution to the problem of ••• contmued from page 18 fob Ali envy of another person is to try to get into his/her space ... r er ··· enough love that she is willing to work with ce to help in h . IIlal to see life from the same vantage point. One of the chief . sure t at Alice has as much of a nor sources of envy is that of attractiveness and the attention it childhood as any other little . l Just as it is important th t grr. . "th our wives, provides. There are other areas of attractiveness but . . a we commumcate WI r I think It IS al . .th OU gender atlractiveness is visual. What you see is not only hildr so unportant that we communicate WI d what you get but it's what you envy and therefore want. c en, especially when they know of our fiemmeside, an communi f · · does What you see in a woman is largely her hairdo, her talkin ca ions mvolves listening as much as it g. makeup, her clothing, jewelry and shoes. If you want what Just as our childr let us she has you have to go into her space in order to view the en have an immense love for us, all al so sh ow them · do world from her point of vantage. Ergo you imitate her in our unmense love for them. Let us that we can t · al of a those ways that particularly attracted you. When you get hildh 0 msure that they have as nonn them then you too will be attractive and gain attention and c ood as any other boy or girl. ego satisfaction and you will no longer have to abide by the social limitation imposed on men. If you fax I ·gh Richardsa i~~' Peas~1 be sure to put 0 To Kymber,e~ax One last note: Wwhen I speak of "attractiveness11 I am machine at %~~) print on your cover sheet: The ther specifically not talking about "sexual attractiveness". businesses 34 7-4190 is shared with 0 re Gender attraction is something else again. Sooner or our receivlngaltnd making this notation will better ensu later, I'll have something to say on that difference, too. promptlyI 20 T NOTES

SHAME AND GUILT

by Anne Vitale, Ph.D.

Shame and guilt are all too comm.on in psychotherapy. This through· deprecation of all of those that are unable or is especially true for gender clients. In fact guilt is usually unwilling to be men (or man-like). This includes genetic the first order of business after dealing with the fear and women as well as genetic males who can't make the cut. anxiety of just being in my office for the first time. Shame Shame of not being able to "make it as a man" is often the sneaks in later, almost as if it is not connected to the guilt reason for questioning one's transsexualism. It is also the at all. primary re~on for the delay in seeking help. I need only Guilt is especially inappropriate. Most of my clients are look back (m horror) at my own transition for evidence of upstanding, socially responsible people. People who are this notion. At that time (1977), I remember trying to honest and productive citizens. A typical gender client is justify my needs in male terms to my psychiatrist by telling highly educated, holds a medium to high level position in him: 11It takes a real man to be a woman." Perhaps I was the professions, and is well ______mm ______equating courage with manhood respected for his or her abilities. but I can't imagine saying that to If the individual has children, he Why is there so much anyone ever again. n is very or she usually wants to be the "I · t • t b common for male-to-female best parent possible. In short g u I t In wan Ing 0 e a transsexuals to make most transsexuals are the very me m be r of the 0 pp OS it e super-masculine efforts to be the model of what society professes assigned sex? "machoesf' male possible. This to value most. Couple this with · notion is based on the mistaken increasing evidence that gender theory that male activity makes the dysphoria is either a birth defect man. My male-to-female client or the result of events that occurred in our environment load currently contains eight fathers, a motorcycle gang shortly after birth and there nothing to feel guilty about. member with three very male tattoos, two Vietnam military So why is there so much guilt in wanting to be a member heroes, two pilots, and even a foreign revolutionary. of the opposite assigned sex? Surely it's alright to be Now, as a woman, I know better ... a lot better. Pride in female and surely it is alright to be male. Yet with being female comes hard even for some genetic women, regularity, many of my clients come in feeling that they but female hormones and living with women who do have are amongst the lowest of the low. For decades they have a healthy sense of self and sincere pride can be a kept within themselves what they feel to be one of the wonderful teacher. After 14 years of post-operative life, I Worst secrets imaginable. Long before they give others a can't imagine a truer state of being. chance to evaluate their dilemma, they often view Keep in mind that shame and guilt are mental constructs. themselves as being sick, perverted, queer and God knows Ironically, transsexuals often develop these constructs to how many other disparagements. They are convinced that protect others from what they feel to be their "perverted if they give in and try to make it in their desired gender, desires". Is a transsexual's search for authenticity really they will be considered all of the above. In addition they that dangerous to society or loved ones? I think not. fear with some justification, being called "uncaring" and Growth in any one individual benefits everyone. It may "selfish'' and ostracized by the people they love the most. take a while to feel good about the search but there is Those of us who have pushed the established gender nothing wrong in wanting to resolve gender dysphoria. I envelope know society's mute but clear message: "Stay in have had the privilege of working with some wonderful the boundaries of behavior allotted to your assigned sex or people in my practice. I regularly see people take their face possible banishment from all that you know and love." lives from despair to beginnings in a radically redefined The reasons for this social dictum are, of course, very world. In fact, working with people as a therapist __ no complex. In all probability it has -- at least in part -- matter what the issue -- has given me a deep respect for something to do with maintaining sexism. humanity. Life is difficult for everyone. Those who have the The control mechanism for sexism is shame expressed courage to face the situation as it really is rather than what 21 they fear it might be often go on to full and productive THERE'S NO GOOD REASON lives. NOT TO SUBSCRIBE TO

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by Ricky Hunt ~'... looking at me -- unless you measure the tensile strength of M IN<.:rre. At:O! ! my corset strings -- but you couldn't see that either. In the latest of my temporary jobs I have ended up in yet another machine shop, building yet another machine. With each of these jobs you meet a new group of men ... not people, they're exclusively men. So I was a bit surprised to notice a woman machinist. It took me a while to notice her; after all, baggy work clothes and protective coats have a certain sameness about them. I will admit I was curious about the gender of this person, so I covertly took inventory. The result was pronounced androgyny, something even more rare than outright misogyny on the shop fl oor. An earring in both ears, short hair, slim build, no discernable hips, slightly feminine mannerisms (I know a machine shop is not exactly the best place to observe this), no beard shadow and no assign a gender to a casual acquaintance in the makeup to hide one. The matter was settled al lunchtime workplace? Part of it was that cultural need to define, part in the lineup to punch out. Without the coat well defined was my insatiable curiosity and part was a hope that here breasts were visible, but casual conversation revealed a in this bastion of male chauvinism a possible TS could rather low and pleasant voice and the time card revealed a work without harassment. The worst part about the string distinctly feminine name. of temporary jobs I have been working is the pervasive I know that I shouldn't have been so damned interested in macho attitude, homophobia and crude sexual humor that assigning a sex to her, that as one of amorphous gender seems to be a part of the very atmosphere. As individuals myself it shouldn't matter to me. Yeah, about the same way they are nice people, but as a group their consciousness the color of a person's skin shouldn't matter. Face it, I needs raising, and it would take more than the five ton grew up in a culture that makes a big deal of sex and skin overhead crane to do it. In this atmosphere I would have color, and which lays great store in those differences. One expected a TS to have suffered verbally, if not physically, of my greatest complaints against the pervasiveness of but nary a word was spoken, no hints were dropped. No racism is that I will always be aware of a person's skin comments, to her or me or anyone else. color before I am aware of them as a person. Over the So anyway, my curiosity about visible gender has been years I have had acquaintances with skin tones other th an satisfi ed, and I was tactful enough not to inquire about the my own, even a friend or two, but no matter how close or subject of fo rmer gender or sexual anatomy. But I'm still casual the relationship that cultural barrier was still buried curious. So Jennifer, if you work io a machine shop near in my mind. As much as I dislike it, it will be there as long an airport io New York, and really are a TS who reads as I am alive, an unwanted but real vestige of a sick this magazine, drop me a line and let me know, OK. culture. Otherwise I'll put on my foundation garments and So why should I be so surprised al myself for wanting to restrain myself.

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~ openly transsexual women were allowed to enter supporter• . of the •festival's exclusionary policy' who has b een active1 y mvolved m the festival since its inception. the 19th annual Michigan Womyn's Music Festival near Protesters receiv~d an overwhelmingly positive response, Hart, Michigan, on Saturday, August 13, 1994, following a and only. very slight negative reaction, to their presence week-long protest of that event's "womyn born womyn" ~d their flyers. They continued to distribute their only policy. The six transsexual women were: Zythyra literature to women arriving for the festival throughout the Anne Austen of Winchester, Va.; April Fredericks and week, as well as to the many women who came out from Riki Anne Wilchins of New York City; Rica Ashby the festiv~ to visi~ them. Festival workers at the gate Fredrickson of Philadelphia; Davina Anne Gabriel of engaged m a vanety of tactics throughout the week Kansas City, Mo.; and Jessica Meredith Xavier of Silver Springs, Md. Accompanying the transsexual women were several nontranssexual supporters who were also taking P~t in the protest, including authors and activists Leslie Feinberg and Minnie Bruce Pratt, both of Jersey City, NJ., and one intersex individual, Kodi Hendrix of Kokomo, In. The protest of the festival's policy of excluding transsexual women from attendance was the third apparently designed to harass protesters and prevent them ~nsecutive and largest action staged against the policy from distributing their literature to arriving participants. since Nancy Jean Burkholder was expelled from the 16th The first activity, scheduled to take place on Wednesday, annual festival in 1991. Thirteen transsexual women with August 10, was a community meeting on the issue of their friends and supporters, including 12 nontranssexual transsexual inclusion, which Alix Dobkin had agreed to women, one transsexual man, one nontranssexual man, attend. However, Ms. Dobkin sent a message to Cam and one intersex person camped out during the week of Trans _on Tuesday, August 9, stating that she had ch~ the festival at "Camp Trans" on national forest land across her mmd and that she would not be attending because it the road from the main gate of the festival and took part in might appear that she was in support of the protesters' variety of activities designed to inform festival a position. The community meeting, which was attended by participants about gender issues and to protest the approximately 20 festival participants, was held without Ms. ~stival's exclusionary policy. Dobkin and sparked a thought-provoking discussion. he transsexual women at Camp Trans who did not enter Workshops were also conducted on self-defense ' ~e festival were: Hannah Blackwell of Kansas City, Mo.; androgyny, transsexual sexuality, disability rights, ancy Jean Burkholder of Weare, N.H.; Nancy Anne transsexuals and the military, sadomasochism , Forrest of Philadelphia; Wendi Lynn Kaiser of North female-to-male identity, gender bending, and other topics. ~erwick, Me.; Lynn Walker and Krissy Withers, both of Protesters were joined on Wednesday by lesbian comedian ew York City; and Arlene Wolves of Ashland, N.H. Mimi = Freed of San Francisco, who performed stand-up The protesters began setting up their camp, including a comedy and conducted a workshop entitled "The Joys of large, bright green banner proclaiming, "Camp Trans: For Marginalization" the following day. A good-humored B~yn-Born Humyns," before festival participants began weenie roast was held Thursday evening, which drew about arrivmg on Sunday, August 7. The following day, protesters 25 festival participants out to enjoy relaxed conversation began distributing a schedule of 29 activities consisting of and indulge in meat and chocolate, comestibles not served Workshops, speeches meetings readings, concerts, by the festival kitchen. l'rreli gtous· services, games,' and meals, ' taking p~ace at. Camp Also on Thursday, Charlotte Manheimer of Cincinnati ans over a four-day period to women m their cars Oh., a 68-year-old nontranssexual lesbian, attempted w.. ' al t~ atting to enter the festival. Also distributed to festiv enter the festival in order to visit a friend but was not Parti · · d c cipants was a joint statement addressmg the nee ior immediately allowed to enter because she refused to respectful and constructive dialogue on the issue of disclose whether or not she was a transsexual and refused tran · · ssexuals in the women's and lesbian commuruttes, to agree to the festival staffs condition that she "respect" Which was issued by one of the transsexual protesters,. Riki the exclusionary policy. Because she is over 65 years of age, Anne Wilchins, and lesbian musician Alix Dobkin, a 27 Ms. Manheim.er is eligible to attend the festival free of which consisted of selections from Stone Butch Blues and charge. Staff offered to escort Ms. Manheimer to find her Ms. Pratt's upcoming book S/he, to be published by friend but were reluctant to issue her a festival wristband. Firebrand Books in February 1995. Ms. Pratt conducted After a two-hour period of deliberation among festival further readings from her book the following morning. staff, Ms. Manheim.er, who traveled to the festival for the Another of Friday's highlights was the wedding of two express purpose of demonstrating support for the festival participants, Kym and Becki, performed by transsexual women taking part in the protest, was given a transsexual minister Lynn Walker. Jaines Green and wristband and allowed to enter the festival unescorted and Leslie Feinberg stood up for the couple in a lantern-lit without disclosing whether or not she is a transsexual. ceremony attended by everyone in Camp Trans and Acclaimed authors and activists Leslie Feinberg, Minnie several visitors from the festival, and accompanied by Bruce Pratt, and James Green joined protesters on Friday, Camp Trans musicians. August 12. Ms. Feinberg is well-known for her popular On Thursday, Riki Anne Wilchins, who is a member of the novel Stone Butch Blues, and Ms. Pratt for her poetry. Mr. New York City chapter of the Lesbian Avengers, was Green is a postoperative female-to-male transsexual and invited by Lesbian Avengers inside the festival to attend the publisher and editor of the FrM Newsletter, which is their scheduled meeting on Saturday, August 13. Ms. the most widely circulated publication in the world Wilchins agreed to attempt to enter the festival as an specifically addressing female-to-male transsexual issues, openly transsexual woman in order to attend the meeting as well as the director of the FfM Support Group in San if the Lesbian Avengers would provide a contingent to Francisco. Mr. Green conducted two workshops on escort her, which they readily agreed to do. female-to-male experience and identity at Camp Trans. On Saturday morning, in an attempt to obtain clarification Each was attended by 20 to 30 festival participants. of the 11womyn born womyn11 policy, protesters requested to The highlight of the scheduled activities was a speech meet with Communications coordinators Lucy Tatman and entitled "Sisterhood: Make it Real!" delivered by Leslie Sue Doerfer. They were asked whether Leslie Feinberg, Feinberg in which she discussed the necessity for the James Green, and Kodi Hendrix would be permitted to buy women's movement in general, and the Michigan ~ckets without violating festival policy. Leslie Feinberg Womyn's Music Festival in particular, to adopt an "all mtroduced herself as a person who was born anatomically women welcome". policy. Approximately 150 festival female but who passes and lives as a man and has a participants came outside to hear Ms. Feinberg's address, driver's license showing her sex as male. She asked making it the most well attended event at Camp Trans whether she would be welcome to enter the festival. Ms. during the course of the protest. Tatman said that 11 the festival would prefer not, 11 a This was followed by a concert by the Celtic Transsexual statement she retracted after Ms. Feinberg declared that Modal Band from Hell, consisting of Arlene Wolves and she would te~ audiences on her upcoming book tour that Beverly Woods of Beyond the Pale, Zythyra (formerly Seth she had received confirmation that she "is not welcome at Austen), and Jessica Xavier. Hammered dulcimer, the ~ichigan Womyn's Music Festival." keyboard, and guitar blended exquisitely, but the highlight Kadi Hendrix then informed Ms. Tatman and Ms. Doerfer 11 of the concert was the original "Ballad of Nancy B., which that he was born with both male and female genitalia and retold the story of Nancy Burkholder's expulsion from the ~ked whether "only half of [him] could come in." Jaroes festival in 1991. reen stated that he had no desire to enter the festival, Later in the evening, Ms. Feinberg and her lover Minnie and was only there "in support of [his] transsexual sisters," Bruce Pratt conducted a re-creation of their joint reading but wanted to kn if h . by originally performed at the 1992 Out/Write Conference, . ow e would be considered a woman the festival owners using the same logic by which theY

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Voung and old, masculine and feminine, laid-back and meeting would dream of addressing you like that. intense, dreamer and realist -- you're all of these at once, What does that make you, anyway? Some kind of multiple and more. You're a one-person group! Getting to know personality, like in Sybil or Three Faces of Eve? Of course and understand your various inner selves can help resolve not. You're a normal, everyday human being, playing all not only gender issues but all kinds of other ambivalences. the diverse roles life demands of you. You are, in fact, a Suppose you're a highly successful, creative corporate one-person group. You control which group member you executive. In a single morning, you've made a smoothly choose to be to meet the demands of a given situation. organized presentation that could land your company a And the characters we've seen so far aren't even the whole lucrative contract; chaired a staff meeting to plan specifics cast. At home, late at night, the corporate dynamo becomes for immediate action as soon as the contract is final -- the passionate primitive or the tender lover. Somewhere, timeline, who does what, solutions to any possible glitches; way down deep, there may be a little kid who feels as if called your tennis partner to set up a game for after work being an important executive is just another game of tomorrow; directed your secretary to make hotel and flight pretending -- like being a mommy or a daddy when you reservations for an upcoming speech in Australia; play house -- or is scared of getting lost in Brisbane traffic. answered a call from your mother who's concerned about Can you really handle being all these different people whether you've planned to take adequate r------ clothing for the Australian winter weather and who needs your advice on some money ·:You're a whole lot of people, all rolled management issues; and left a message on 1~to o!'le. Each goes at a different pace, the answering machine at home reminding s1_ts differently, talks differently, moves your teenage daughter that she's agreed to differently from the others." get the lawn mowed and her homework done so the two of you can go to the basketball game tonight. wi~hou_t geLting mixed up? Of course you can. You've been In a single morning, you've been contract negotiator, team dorng it all your life. So has everybody else you know. In leader, friend, boss, son or daughter, financial advisor, and fact, you've. shifted f rom one to another ·m a s·m gI e parent. They're all you. But is the self-assured corporate con_versat1on: Talking to your mother you moved from the representative the same person who's saying "yes, mom, of dutiful child pr · · ' . • om1smg to bundle up for the cold weather -- course I know it's cold in Australia at this time of year, perhaps one of your selves was whispering inaudibly, and yes, I do have an all-wool scarf -- you really don't need w~e w1L an edge of impatience, "after all I'm not five years to buy me another one ... " scarcely two hours later? Does old anymore am J?" th , the cooly efficient boss with all the details worked out in ··· · -- to e competent adult on whom M om d epends for fi ·al advance even sound the same as the casual caller saying manc1 advice· with your daugbLer, you're both th fi ' f "hey Pat, how 'bout gettin' together on the courts tomorrow . . . . e irm parent reminding her 0 night"? Yes and no. You're the cool executive in the respbonds1b1ht1es and the buddy who'll cheer as loud as any o Y when the ho · . flawlessly tailored jacket, answering the client's questions Tl me team wms torught's game. with ease and humor. Then you're the dynamo in ie gender element. What does all this have to with shirt-sleeves at a staff meeting, directing an action plan ~en~er? A lot. Did you assume all the different characters that has to be ready yesterday to stay ahead of the ~ the s~en~s we've just witnessed were male? Why? This competition and keep the commitments you've made to the is t e. runet1es -- surely you realize that some corporate executives are female S client. But your chair tilts back and you're doodling Go back , d · o are some bosses. an 1ook aga· h A urne ca rtoons on your scratchpad while your friend is checking half th . h m at t at one-person group. ss tomorrow night's calendar. think eb c aracters are f em al e -- you choose whi cb · NoW Wbo are y~u really? You're a whole lot of different people, a out the group again Look d:u t doesn't it? You alread kn · s J.Ueren , all rolled rnto one. Each goes at a different pace, sits a y ow your group members aren't all the sa OJC ge -- there's a litU ki ? f\.Ild differently, talks differently, moves differently from each of w"th e d among them remember· 1 your old ro · ' t -- the others. They even have different names: Your tennis omie you probably don't seem -- or ac ~~~t~y did. h~ partner calls you by the same nickname you answered to o ou m your college days. So why 5 0 Y u assume they're all when the two of you were college roommates, and your Ma b one gender? mother calls you "Honey". No one at the company staff y e the nurturing . one of your feminine • carmg parent is 30 selves; maybe the vulnerable, little kid; maybe both. Regardless of which sex your anatomy If you think you've missed someone, ask yourself about the says you are, you're likely to have several masculine selves roles you play: "Who am I at work? At home on and several feminine ones -- you're a whole group, in weekends? At a party? With my best friend? With each of which each member has a different personality and each my parents? At the dentist?" (And does the dentist turn fills a different function in your life. into your father when he says "open your mouth11 and you The same is true of your spouse, if you have one. Marriage obey?) isn't "boy meets girl" -- it's boy's group meeting girl's group Once you've identified your personas, give them names - on multidimensional levels. Think of the riches a not descriptions, like "fatso" or "grumpy" or "kid" -- but real relationship can attain, if each of you accepts both the male names: George, Margie, Susie, Sam ... so the grumpy one and female aspects of your own personality as well as your can stop being grumpy and the kid can grow up. partner's, and you both work toward balancing them in There's one name none of them can have ... yours. You're ways that complement and enhance each other! the whole group put together, and no one member of it is Finding your group. How do you figure out your cast of the whole you. characters? You've seen a hypothetical sample, but these Reaching consensus. Once you've identified your people aren't you. How do you find your own collection ... characters and named them, they're ready to help you make old and young, masculine and feminine? decisions. Take a felt marker and write each one's name Start ~th introspection. Sit down in a quiet place and on the back of his or her card, so you can read the names think about yourself: What kind of person are you most of from across the room. Then put each card on a different the time? Describe that person. Jot down your list of chair (if you haven't enough chairs, some of them can sit characteristics on a 5'' x 811 card. Now think about times on the floor). when you're different from what's on that list. Make a new Suppose you're faced with a really important issue: card. C'mon, you can think of more than two aspects of Changing jobs, moving, buying a car or house, telling yourself ... make a third card, then a fourth ... someone important to you that you crossdress. Which of The list of characteristics needn't be exhaustive. You can your selves wants to do this? Sit in that one's chair. Take a add details as you go along. The main thing is to get the moment to study the characteristics of that self -- longer, if qualities that distinguish one persona from another. Then necessary. Now be that one. Talk about the issue from that add what feels right for that character: gender, age, one's point of view: What are the advantages? physical description, habits ... plus any special things that Some of the other selves don't agree. Move to one of those ~ake your image of this person more vivid. Let your chairs. Be that one. Talk about what you don't like -- not lDlagination run free -- if you refuse to recognize a only what's awful about it, but what's bearable that you'd character who talks too loud or isn't as neat as you'd like to prefer to see improved. be, you may be leaving out someone who needs to be heard Make sure you hear from everyone. If some have :;:io from. A character who's left out, if it's one who's really part opinions, give them a chance to say so after they've thought of you, is the very one who'll cause trouble, showing up about it carefully. You can't afford to ignore anyone, uninvited and being a really obnoxious guest. because the one who hasn't been listened to is likely to A word of caution here: Just because you always wanted to sabotage the decision. This isn't a group that members can be a beautiful princess or movie star doesn't mean you are resign from if there's an action they don't like -- every one, even occasionally. Ask yourself: 11 When am I like this? member is a part of you, and you're all in the group for Can I think of any real life situations when I've been this life. person, or is this a daydream?" You need more than a simple majority. You need absolute Don't worry if you leave somebody out. At some point, agreement, not just riding roughshod over minority views, maybe months from now, you'll ask yourself "which of us is and you need to negotiate among the group members until doing such-and-such?°, and if nobody answers, you'll need you get it: "What would it take to make this OK for you? to make another card. It's OK to add a character or drop Would it work if we did it a different way, for instance ... ?" Some of those who didn't have strong opinions may be one over a period of time. People change. GET CROSS-TALK FREE!! Now you can share Cross-Talk with your friends in the gender community and receive it free for yourself! first if you don't already subscribe, use the form on page 40 and order your subscription. Second look at the mailing label on the envelope Cross-Talk is mailed in and find your four-digit subscriber ' number (it's in the upper left corner of the label). 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by l{ymberleigh Richards

I heard about Transgender Nation by Gordene Olga becomes necessary to reread entire passages to fix the MacKenzie on the Internet, as parts of the book were used context more securely in the reader's mind. This, to defend several of the more 11radical11 proposals for our unfortunately, means that the passages I saw in cyberspace community that seem to be put forward rather frequently (taken out of context) "proving" someone's position actually there. (As an example, note in my editorial this month that were linked to passages expressing opposing views and I "surgery on demand11 is a recurring topic on the Net; was left feeling as if I had attended a debate in whlch no Trm:sgender Nation has been quoted many times during the one was declared the winner. Again, I don't believe this is Online discussions.) Needless to say, I requested a review the author's fault. Transgendered people are confusing copy from Bowling Green University's Popular Press to (and sometimes confused) animals, and there are as many see for myself just how radical MacKenzie was. theories about the 11why we do if' and 11 what should be done Surprisingly, the book is neither radical nor conservative, about it" as there are listings in the Chicago phone book. ~ender community-wise. MacKenzie manages to cover all The fourth chapter, on popular culture, is both the most sides of the many facets of our community rather well, interesting and most disappointing section of Transgender begjnnmg with a chapter on the increased visibility of Nation. MacKenzie seems to have devoted the least amount tr~sexualism in America, leading to an overall of research to this subject, resulting in some obvious gaps: heightening of the public's realization that there are more She mentions Tootsie and Mrs. Doubtfire, but not Some ~ansgendered people than they imagined. Although Like It Hot,· Soap, Saturday Night Live, and even the discussion of the terminology gets a bit muddled -- due short-lived Fox network sitcom Good Grief, but not Bosom more to the changing nature of what we want terms to Buddies; The Crying Game and Paris ls Burning, but not mean than to any fault of the author -- it does serve as a Yentl. Additionally, when she attempts to discuss decent primer on the subject to the uninitiated. I do, transgender images in rock and roll she ends up though, take exception to MacKenzie's introduction of the misspelling several of the performers' names. This chapter tenns "male-to-woman" and 11female-to-man 11 as could have easily been the hook to draw the mainstream replacements for the more appropriate "male-to-female" public into a full-fledged discussion on acceptance, but it and""iemale-to-male"; the mixed metaphor of com b.lll.lllg · moves as quickly as possible through the subject and thus sex- and gender-defining words will, in my opinion, make leaves the reader feeling as if she missed something along lllatters more confusing to the layperson, already the way. ?0tnharded to the point of exasperation by the many Chapter five, though, more than makes up for any . flavors 11 of transgendered behavior presented through our shortcomings elsewhere in the book with a thorough lllcreased exposure in the media. discussion of how the transgendered community is The second chapter outlining the history of transgendered becoming more activist in the 1990s, including specific references to the socio-historical and political events that heh. aVIor· (and much' of the gender community's earI Y history as well) is very well laid out and nicely explained. have led to this activism. MacKenzie centers this discussion on the premise that society is bipolar where gender Many·1D our own community who are interested m· "h ow We got here" would be well-advised to read this chapter, as identity is concerned and that this rigidity must be w:u as the chapter on the "gender movement" that closes overcome before transgendered people can be openly this book. accepted. While that may be an oversimplification, it does make explaining such organizations as Tri-Ess and IFGE ~efore I get ahead of myself here by mentioning the fifth to the layperson much easier. In the case of Tri-Ess, ~ apter, I need to talk about the chapter on transsexual Ideology, which contains most of the passages I've seen MacKenzie allows that virtually all modern gender community organizations have their roots in Virginia quoted on the Net Unfortunately MacKenzie's earnest attem · ' . all th Prince: . pt to create a balanced presentation of e Illed1caJ nfli f ... a/most every cross-dresser and transsexual organization community's points of view means that co c mg has in some way been influenced in Prince. Usually the Persp ectives· are frequently juxtaposed in such a way th a t 1•t 33 founders of the organizations have disagreed with Virginia or although only one identified as a TV. They also reported been excommunicated by her. 17ze important point here is, one MTF transsexual, who they classified as "female" for as a catalyst, Prince inspires the creation of new groups a11d statistical purposes. Interesting ... stimulates change ... " Also, the address for Winter Publishing, which publishes The chapter also makes the observation that more the A/temative Lifestyles Publication Directory I reviewed members of the transgendered community are "coming in #59, has changed to P.O. Box 80667, South Dartmouth oul" in the '90s and that this is acting as the impetus for MA 02748-0667. I hope the address change was the result civil rights campaigns within the community. of business expanding beyond the capacity of their box, All told, Transgender Nation sends the message that it is requiring a bigger one! not the transgendered community that is sick and in need D l!D of healing, but society's attitudes that must be changed. I I have changed the name of this column -- again -- to see this book as a strong source of empowerment as we Alternative Presses to better refl ect the diversity of media continue to seek mainstream acceptance, and I supporting the gender community. Right now, in my "to be recommend it most highly as a sourcebook of slrategy and reviewed" stack, I have three videos, a compact disc, two am munition for those in our community who are pushing books, three magazines from overseas, a magazine on fo r that acceptance, as well as to those who simply wish to computer disk, five newsletters and a newsletter reprint. know a little more about our history. See what I meamn by "diversity"? {The book carries ISBN numbers (0-87972-596-6 clo1hbo1111d, 0-87972-597-4 paperback) and should be orderable from a11y re1ail bookstore. The publisher's suggested retail price is $41.95 clo1hbo1111d a11d $1./.95 paperback. It is also available through the IFGE Bookstore, P.O. Box 367, Wayla 11d MA 01778.)

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SPLIT: PORTRAIT OF A DRAG QUEEN

by Charlene Day

Through interviews, archival footage, and still photos, Split to many affairs and became internationally famous touring tells the story of the metamorphosis of a boy from the Europe with The Hot Peaches troupe (who are also Bronx into the extraordinarily beautiful drag queen featured in this movie). International Chrysis. She lived as a woman, but did not want surgery. She said As pointed out in the movie, she was a traffic stopper. She that if she changed, "I would just be another woman". was born with a delicate conformation of features which She didn't take care of her health, though, and eventually contributed to her good '"'~·~ developed cancer caused by the looks. She tended to be ?"' ~ leakage of the wax from her chubby and injections of } breasts. While the movie does not hormones increased her < reveal the final cause of her feminine appearance. She death, the combination of the also had breast implants of cancer, excessive use of drugs and some kind of wax because it high doses of hormones most Was cheaper than other probably were contributing methods. She named her factors. breasts Johrison & Johnson Split also answers the question after the maker of the floor "What happens to drag queens wax. However, the breasts when they get older and are no Were hard and painful. longer beautiful?" One person She was crossdressing at said that many of them go back to 11; in some misguided being men, but "Chrysis could not attempt to change her, her because she had gone too far to Parents sent her to a tum back." She told producer ment I lini Ellen Fisher Turk that she saw a c ·c at Bellevue Hospital. I think that she herself as a creation, not as a ~ust have been fairly man or as woman and she had tnteu· transcended gender. (H ow about igent, because she confounded the people at a new term, "Gender Bell Transcender"?) Split left some evue by not giving them the answers that they~~~~~~'....!.-~::.::..-----=~:...... --~-----' questions unanswered, though, eJrn d d' v · o n) and you can not help but wish you sa.. t'ecte· . (She is quoted as International Chrysis (Photo ere it: "evm unca knew more about the person Ying later in her life that Chrysis. she proved to herself what she was and did not have to However, I found the movie very enjoyable and would see ~rove.it to her family.) it again just to marvel at Chrysis' beauty. hrysis became estranged from her family at an early age. Sh e t·s reputed to have "come out" at 14 performm· g a t [17iis movie is playing in special engagements throughout the country, along T?wn Hall. Some older drag queens took her under the~ with The Queen, which Charlene Day will review next month./ Wings and she was in the 1965 beauty contest that is documented in The Queen, which I will review in next month's issue. You can save 40% off the cover price of Cross-Talk Chrysis was one of Salvador Dali's inner circle. He was when you subscribe by mail! See page 40. fascinated by her and made drawings of her ... ~d some people wonder where those drawings are today because they could be worth money. She publicly accompanied him 35 THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY AND YOU HOW MUCH INFORMATION HIGHWAY ACCESS DO YOU REALLY NEED? by Emily Clarke

When I was a small girl (okay, so I was never small) a and when Ruthie went on vacation for a few weeks last Christmas ritual was to travel between my two March no one seemed to mind when it was down for 10 of grandmothers' houses for early and late dinner. There the 14 days because it ran out of disk space when someone were two ways to cross the Raritan River, which was a part tried to get a copy of Doom mailed to them. of the journey; one via the Parkway and one via an old But between the two extremes, there remains a full U.S. highway, Route 9. The Parkway was a toll road, and spectrum of service providers, and while I would love to had appropriately placed toll plazas on each side of the tell you which ones are the best, it would be almost bridge that required one pay a 25 cent toll. impossible given that the growth is unimaginable. The best My father used to take great delight at slipping o~ the exit way to determine if you can get away with less than the before the first toll, crossing on the Route 9 bndge, and stellar services of the major service providers is investigate rejoining the Parkway after the toll on the other side. · A aller Cheating the government out of four bits gave my father it on your own. list of access numbers for the sm great delight even though we lost time travelling at 35 service providers, arranged by area code and countfY, MPH rather than 60MPH, probably added a few extra appears at the end of this article. By using it to find the miles to our trip and added wear and tear on the car service providers in your immediate area, you can travelling over th~ less reliable and pothole-riddled U.S. investigate them to find out what their costs are, how much Route 9. they charge for extra services -- if anything -- and usually The same holds true with the information superhighway - you can get a free trial to find out if your needs will be it can be the information super-tollroad or you can find a met. Many of these are bulletin board systems (BBS) that way around the fees and use it for practically nothing. Like provide electronic mail and echos of Usenet newsgroups the analogy I gave before, the tradeoffs are usually exactly (which ones are usually based on the whim of the systelll that -- speed and reliability versus money, service and operator, but you can always request a specific group)· Others ·d full · ·fve user principal. . provi e services but may have a prum 1 mterface. On the high end of the spectrum, the nationally known There is on h . . · that 01aY service providers (Genie, Prodigy, America OnLine, e ot er alternative worth ment10rung th Delphi and Compu$erve ... pun intended) have many ~ake the entire point moot, and that is the concept of e freenet11 A f Uy at a services ... but you must pay the high tolls that include a . . · reenet is a computer system, usua ho uruvers1ty or th . b eople w monthly service charge ranging from $10 to $25 month, . o er agency, that is operated Y P . ble additional charges for mail messages, access time and believe that virtually no-cost computing should be availa ch "extra" services such as file downloading and storage. to odne-and-all and demonstrate it by providing e:xactlY 5~t\~ with kin of · · the l"r Though the price is high, you are provided a slick and f services. An example of a freenet 15 are easy to use interface, technical support and reliability. So reenet system at nyx.cs.du.edu where Internet accounts is even if you blow a tire on a pothole, someone from the allocated to Ii h ystelll app cants free-of-charge. T e 5 are service is usually there to change it for you, the routes are ?Perated using donated hardware and volunteers whO well marked and maps are provided. mvolved in ma· t . . On the low end, you can pay nothing ... as long as you have While N . m amtng the system. be quite hu T yx is a small scale operation, many can th best the time, patience and can put up with mail that doesn't ge. ake the Cleveland Freenet probably e cept. quite always make it through, slow performance, traffic k nown larges l . , . g con I . ca e manifestation of free computin ·ded jams in the form of busy signals and usually having to get n this case c . •ty pro'Vl ' ase Western Reserve U ruversi ho11e out in the rain to fix that blown tire. A friend of mine still some seed re teleP and sources such as computer hardware, initiate runs such a system using an old 286 system running with a a "b. nebt connections and system administrators to t.tort to 2400 baud modem that kicks off any user logged on from 1g ang" hi ·cy e11' 1· t w ch eventually grew by comm uI11 urces 3:00 to 4:00, AM and PM, so it can dial up another s current siz It · y reso _ 1 cornputer to pick up the mail. But: It's free, constantly busy that ran e. ts huge, and consists of ~an oatiooai I . ge from local community serVIces, .on.al nternet access d d recreatl 36 , an educational an resources. Just to give an example of how huge it is, the menu index alone (as of January 1994) occupied over 300 printed pages. The easiest way to realize why the freenet concept will grow is that while business, industry and colleges all need the super-computing power of the latest hardware, the revolutionary minicomputers and mainframes of just a few short years ago still function and can be put to good use ... just as I handed my 386SX down to my daughter when I bought my 486. So if there isn't a freenet in your area, be patient -- it may come. Better yet, get in touch with the computing departments of your city, county and local colleges and start the ball rolling yourself.

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November 10-13, 1994: Tci-Ess "Holiday En Femme", New York City. Open only to T ci-Ess members, wives and partners, and other heterosexual crossdressers. Details from Lynda Frank, 330 W. 45 th ~t. #31-1, New York NY 10036; telephone (212) 765-3561. November 17-20, 1994: "Fall H arvest '94", Ceda r Rapids IA, sponsored by MAGGIE. I-lost organization: Iowa Artistry. D etails from P.O. Box 75, Cedar Rapids 52406-0075 or by calling (319) 373-3031. February 21-26, 1995: 7th Annual "Texas 'T' ~a rty ' ', San Antonio TX. J?et a '.~s fro~1 P.O. Box 17, Bulverde TX 78163 or by calling (210) 980-7788. . March 13-19, 1995: International Foundat10n for Gender Educallon Commg Together-Working Together Convention", Atlanta GA. Detatls from IPGE P.O. Box 367, Wayland MA 01778. . April '20-23, 1995: "California Dreamin'", Burbank CA, sponsored by Powder Puffs Of Califo'.Ilia and hosted in conjunction with the Southern California Transgendcr Support Network (PPOC, Born Free, Neutral Comer, CHIC, Alpha Chapter Tn-Ess, and Ladies' Knight Out). Details from P.O. Box 1088, Yorba Linda CA 92686. May 17-21, 1995: "Esprit '95", Port Angeles WA, sponsored by Emerald City, NWGA, and Combury Society. Details from P.O. Box 873, Kirkland WA 98083-0873. . May l8-21, 1995: "Paradise in the P~conos", Canadens1s P1\ ! p~oduced by Creative Design SeIVices, P.O. Box , King of Prussia PA 19406. Information by phone: (610) 640-9449; via lntem;t: cdspub@omm._vo!cenet.com. 61263 September 14-17, 1995: "Paradise in the Poconos . See May 18-21 ltsttng.

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NEW ENGLAND/NORTH ATLANTIC REGIONS: Gender Dysphoria Support, Kansas City: (816) 753-7816 # C~ Network, Rochester: (716) 251-2132 Indiana Crossdressers Society, Indianapolis: (812) 876-5635 ~ 1 Delta Mu Chapter Tri-Ess, NYC: (201) 663-0772@ Minnesota Free~om of Gender Expression: (612) 220-9072 nnect1cut Outreach Society, Hartford: (203) 657-4344 N.G.D.O., Detroit: (313) 842-5258 # ~~~ressers International, NYC: (212) 570-7389 Paradise Club, Cleveland: (216) 586-9292 Eur ~st F2M Group, Cambridge: (413) 584-7616 # Quad-City Society for Sexuality Ed., Davenport: (319) 324-9641 Ex ensp1egel Society, NYC: (212) 388-7022 % St. Louis Gender Foundation: (314) 997-9897 G!~ssing Our Nature, Syracuse: (315) 475-5611 Sunday Society, Chicago: (312) 252-7024 Gen er Identity Program, NYC: (212) 969-0888 # Wichita Transgender Alliance: (316) 682-9131 Girr~eN~Talk North, New Hampshire: (603) 924-8828 SOUTHWEST/MOUNTAIN REGION: lmas 19ht Out, NYC: {212) 794-1665 ext 202 Alpha Chi Chapter Tri-Ess, Amarillo: (806) 359-7714@ Q~s, Hartford: (203) 779-9 08 Alpha Rho Chapter Tri-Ess, Salt Lake City: (801) 553-8141 @ 1 7 ~penal Queens of New York: (212) 5so-98ss Bluebonnet Coalition, San Antonio: (210) 656-4163 L&!;1 Foundation for Gender Education: (617) 894-8340 Boulton & Park Society, San Antonio: {210) 980-7788 Lon bda Chi Lambda Chapter Tri-Ess, Utica: (607) 547-4118@ CrossDressers International, Tulsa: (918) 582-6643 Me 9 Island Femme Expression: (516) 433-4866@ Delta Omega Chapter Tri-Ess, Dallas: (817) 264-7103@ ~opolltan Gender Network, NYC: (7 ) 461-9050 Arst Saturday, El Paso: (505) 434-5144 0 18 ~ each Institute, N. Portland: (207) 775-0858 Gender Crisis Help Line, Tucson: (602) 293-3456 Ren e~lons, Boston: (617) 323-6082 Gender Identity Center, Denver: (303) 458-5378 Ren:ssance Greater Philadelphia Chapter: (610) 630-1437 Gulf Coast Transgender Community, Houston: (713) 1s0-4282 Renaissance LSV Chapter, Harrisburg: (717) 780-1578 Help Me ... Accept Me, Dallas: (214) 416-6632 ssance s J Recast, Dallas: (214) 994-9314 # Sigma N · ersey Chapter: (609) 435-5401 Second Image, Austin: (512) 515-5460 Silent p u Rho Chapter Tri-Ess, Trenton: (609) 586-1351 @ TS Peer Support, Houston: (713) 333-2278 # Tiffany ~~bage, Rhode Island: (401) 438-7417 Tau Chi Chapter Tri-Ess, Houston: (713) 347-8747@ Tran u •Boston: (617) 891-9325 Tra sGender Educational Ass'n Arlington: (301 ) 949-3822 Texas Ass'n. of Transsexuals, Houston: (713) 827-5913 # ns~ende. rists lndependence'crub, Albany: (518) 436-4513 West Texas Gender Alliance, San Angelo: (915) 944-1381 Transp1tt p PACIFIC NORTHWEST: Wash· ' •ttsburgh: (412) 231-1181 Emerald City, Seattle: (206) 284-1071 XX (T mgton-Baltimore Alliance: (301) 277-5475 Ingersoll Gender Center, Seattle: (206) 329-6651 lltE ~~~~~~lub, Hartford: (203) 646-8651 # Northwest Gender Alliance, Portland: (503) 646-2802 American Ed . . Rose City Gender Center, Portland: (503) 230-1036 Atlanta G ucational Gender Info. Service: (404) 9ag.o244 Salmacis Feminist Social Society, Eugene: (503) 688-4282 Black Ro ender. Exploration: (404) 875-9846 # Trans-Port, Portland: (503) 774-8463 Caror se, Arlington: (301) 369-7667 % Transsexual Lesbians & Friends, Seattle: (206) 292-1037 # Eden 1 ~ ~rans-Sensual Alliance, Charlotte: (704) 551-8838 THE WEST COAST (CA & HI): Fantas· c~ty, Pompano Beach: (305) 784-9316 # Alpha Chapter Tri-Ess, Los Angeles: (213) 876-6141@ GOA Nia, rlando: (407) 425-4527 # Amer. Transsexual Education Center: (213) 389-6938 # Gend Orth Carolina: {704) 642-1914 Androgyny, Santa Monica: (213) 467-8317 Gracee~l~ormation Network, Gainesville: (904) 332-8178 Born Free, Riverside: (909) 278-0958 louisvill Gca, Mississippi: (601) 362-6335 CHIC, Los Angeles: (310) 420-2580@ Mont e ender Society: (812) 944-5570 Diablo Valley Girls, Concord: (510) 937-8432 Montgomery Institute, Augusta: (404) 603-9426 # Educational TV Channel, San Francisco: (510) 549-2665 M.o ~~mery Institute, Gainesville: (904) 332-6638 # FTM, Oakland: (510) 287-2646 :fl: Mu Si· ., Ft. Lauderdale: (305) 966-2138 Hawaii Transgendered Outreach, Honolulu: (808) 923-4270 Phi E 9'!'a Chapter Tri-Ess, Arkansas: (501) 972-1826@ Neutral Corner, San Diego: (619) 685-3696 F>hoe~~ 1 % Mu .Chapter Tri-Ess, Central FL: (407) 677-9540@ Powder Puffs Of California, Anaheim: (714) 779-9013 Sereni ' hev1lle: (704) 259-9428 Rainbow Gender Association, San Jose: (408) 984-4044 Sigma~ H~llywood: (305) 436-9477 Sacramento Gender Association: (916) 482-7742 Starbursfilon Chapter Tri-Ess, Atlanta: (404) 552-4415@ Sigma Sigma Beta Chapter Tri-Ess, Lake Tahoe: (916) 544-2460@ Tenness' ~mpa-St. Petersburg: (813) 527-1012 Society for the Second Self (Trl-Ess) Nat'I.: (209) 688-9246@ Virginia':; als, Nashville: (615) 664-6883 Swan's Inner Sorority, San Jose: (408) 297-1423 NllDWJ:sr ecret, Richmond: (804) 222-6796 CANADA: Beta G & VICINITY: Club Met, Montreal: (514) 528-8874 Centra~l~ma Chapter Tri-Ess, Minneapolis: (612) 870-8536@ Entre Femme, Quebec: (418) 529-1132 # Chi Ch mo 1 8 ~ender Assoc.: (309) 444-9918 F.A. 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