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[23 NOVEMBER, 1933.] 2075 Mr. PLESSE: Some people are very Hundreds of matters are referred to that good to them. It is perhaps to be re- organisation. gretted that more has not been done for Mr. W~ise: More unworthy objects than the aborigines. Except for the Protector this have perhaps received help. of Aborigines, it seems to be nobody's The MINISTER FOR POLICE: I will business to look after them. I make no assist the hon. member to place this matter apology whatever for stressing the neces- before the commission, but I object to any sity for doing something for them, be- unnecessary amendment being embodied in cause I know from experience what they the Act. In fact, the proposed new clause have suffered. Some of them have had is completely out of order. barely sufficient food to keep them alive. The CHAIRMAN: That is a reflection After all, if the clause were inserted in upon the Chair. the Bill, there would be some direction to The MINISTER FOR POLICE: I apolo- the Lotteries Commission that the abori-_ gise. The object itself is a worthy one, and gines are entitled to something. They are should receive consideration at the hands of human beings. Some people seem to think the commission, but it should not be speci- they have no soul and no feelings. It IS fied in the way suggested, in an Act. of Par- scandalous to think that little children, some of them almost as %vhite as our owvn liament. have to stiffer as thnese children little suf- New clause put anld nlegatived. fered during recent years. Title agreed to. The Premier: At Wagin the people Bill reported without amendment and the would not let some of them go to the same report adopted. school as their step-brothers and step- sisters. Mr. PIESSE: Perhaps that is so. BILLS (2)-RETURNED. The CHAIRMAN: I do not think we I, Land Tax and Income Tax. had better discuss that to-night. Without amendment. Air. PIESSE: At present there is no instruction to the Lotteries Commissionlhr 2, Constitution Acts Amendment. this House that the aborigines should be With amendments. provided for. The Premier: 'This would not he ain in- House adjourned (it 11.3 p.m. struction to them. Mr. PIESSE: It would be specified in the Act. The Premier: It would not be an in- struction. The PIESSE: The Commnission would take it as an indication that the aboiti- gines were provided for by the Act. The MINISTER FOR POLICE: I de- sire to make it -very clear that I1 do not oppose the elau~e, because I consider the lcoitsative Eesemblvp, object to be a worthy one, but it is un- necessary to include the clause in the Bill. Thursday, 2 3,4 Nov-ember.v 1933. ,There is ample provision already. Re- presentation canl be made to the right I'A.d' quarter for this matter to be dealt with. toan Estimate,, messuge. Con), of Siuruy .. 2076 Bills9: toteres fControl) Act Awcendn-e,,l (No. 2), It is the opinion of members that the 3R.......................... ... 2085 commission should have a free hand, that Constitution Acts Amendnent, Council's nercud- 2085 they should not be influenced in any way Bealthmen"s............................ Act Amendment (No. 21, 2n.. ... 2086 and that the Minister should have no con- Stute Transport Co-ordinatfon. Con,.. ... 2001 trol over the commission. I am surprised that the hon. member has allowed 12 months to elapse before making represen- The SPEAKER took the Chair at 4.30 tations to the commission on this subject. p.m., and read prayvers. '2076 [ASSEMBLY.] LOAN ESTIMATES, 1933-34. once, would inevitably result iii a largely in- creased deficit. As we know, deficits axe Message. always covered by borrowed money. So, if Message from the Lieut.-Governor received instead of borrowing money now in order and read, transmitting the Loan Estimates to employ ni, we had at reduced amount for the year 1933-34 and recommendinig ap- and kept them onl sustenance, our sustenance propriation. expenditure from revenue would be about double, arid consequently our deficit for the In Comm~ittee of Supply, year would be increased by £300,000 or The House hra ing, resolved inrte Committee £400,000, and so we would have to borrow of Supply. to consider tile IALmi Estimates; that mioney' to meet our deficit. Therefore, Mr. Slecinan in the Chair. it is the ]letter policy to do it this way, by wvhiclh men will be occupied in some useful Vote-Departmental, £82, 059. wvork, titan it would be to keep thorn on srus- tenance, under which system no results at all THE PREMIER AND TREASURER would be obtained, and still we would have (Hon. P. Collier-Boulder) [4.33]: The to ho rrow anl equal amount at the end of the total Loin Estimates for this year show a flinancial veer to make good the deficit in- substantial increase on the expendithire of eurred by the larger expenditure of money last year. I am aware that there is it con- onl sustenance. siderable volume of thoughlt in the comlmun- The -Minister for Emiploymient And the ity that in these times the loan expendituire effect on the in wvould be detrinmental. ought to be considerably curtailed. But lhav- Tile PREMIER: Yes, that is so No one ing regard to the fact that industr ' has not will ( uestiom that even the sturdiest men yet recovered 1 from the depression of the last deteriorate when unemployed, lose their three years, and that consequentl Iy large character arid individuality when they have numbers of melt are not being employed in been on sustenance for two or three years. industry as they' were formerly, there is need That is inevitable in even the best of men. for Government to do somuethinig in the war So it is much better that we should obtain of finding work for those niumibers who have money by these means to get them employed, been unemployed for so long a period. It more particularly as the financial results wvill is argued, too, that to go in for any consider- ho just thle same; for had we not obtained able amount of loan expenditure oniy adds this increased amount of loan money this to our difficulties in finlancing, in that it in- yea," nor expenditure on sustenance would creases expenditure onl the Revenue Esti- Ire just about double what we expect it to mates in order to meet interest charges. But be, arid that would add to our deficit, and when one examines the situa tiorn, it is fonrd thle money wvould have to lie borrowed at the that that is not really so. It is much better end of tire year. So the larger amuounit of to borrow money to-da 'y in order to find loan money does not in fact increase our wvork for the men who are out of work, to indebtedness for the year. The amount puit themi into useful employment in the asked for this year is £2,686,311. Tile ex- community, if not on entirely r-eproductive penditure last year was £2,217,982, or ant work-because nobody wvould claim thnlt thre increase of £E46,329. As I say, if we had whole of the work on which our sustenance obtained oly.) tfe amount of last year, that men are being engaged is of a directly re- £463,329 would have shown as expenditure productive charaeter. Yet it is I think, or in the Revenue Estimates, and would have to most of it will be, indirectly reproductive. be borrowed to make good the difference. The in that thre State will get the benefit of it in expenditure last year was as follows- the expenditure in the years to come. But £; if those men were not employed on works Departmental . 72,705 from loan funds, there would be a charge on Railways arnd Tramiways 178,889 Harbours 235,722 revenue for sustenance. That, ultimately, Water Supply 737,241 is a charge upon loan funds, seeing that the Development of Goldfields 29,558 State has a very considerable deficit of about 1Developnient of Agriculture 735,156 three-quarters of a million whtich, if that 11iscellaneous 226,681 money were not borrowed in order to em- The increased expenditure this year is ploy those men and so take them off susten- rendered possible by the provision of [23 NovE311M 1933.1 2077 the adlditional loan mone y which we have The PREMIER: Yes, that has been the been able to obtain throughb the Loan Coun- practice for a number of years: it has been eii. Last year the total available was paid out of suspense and recouped over a £2,100,000, including rho Commonwealth numyber of years to the fund. All relaying Grant for relief of unemployment. £145,000, is dlone on that principle. which was not a loan at all but was a grant Mr Stubbs: It does not include new from the Commonwealth for the relief of rolling stock? unenmploymen t, and was not shown i a the Loan Estimates. This year we anticipate that The PREMI1ER: No. There is on the the sumn which will be available to the Gov- Estimates provision for additional rolling ermnent is £2,750,000. Its distribution wvill stock, which is urgvntly needed. The sumn be as follows: of £300,000 is for additions and improve- meats to railways and £20,000 has been pro- Dlepartmenatal 82,259 vided for aidditional stock. The principal Railways andt 'raniwaiy. 404,500 work will be the super-heating of locomo- Iftrbouirs .