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PR/S2/05/14/A PROCEDURES COMMITTEE AGENDA 14Th Meeting PR/S2/05/14/A PROCEDURES COMMITTEE AGENDA 14th Meeting, 2005 (Session 2) Tuesday 22 November 2005 The Committee will meet at 10.15 am in Committee Room 2. 1. Items in private: The Committee will decide whether to consider in private, at its next two meetings, draft reports and draft standing order changes on procedures relating to Crown appointees and on Private Bill Committee assessors. 2. Review of Parliamentary Time: The Committee will take evidence in a round-table discussion from— Bill Aitken MSP, on behalf of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party; Mark Ballard MSP, on behalf of the Scottish Green Party; Carolyn Leckie MSP, on behalf of the Scottish Socialist Party; Alasdair Morgan MSP, on behalf of the Scottish National Party; Margo MacDonald MSP, on behalf of the Independents’ Group Michael McMahon MSP, on behalf of the Scottish Labour Party; and Jeremy Purvis MSP, on behalf of the Scottish Liberal Democrats. 3. Private Bill Committee assessors: The Committee will consider written evidence from the Scottish Executive Inquiry Reporters Unit and the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body. Andrew Mylne Clerk to the Committee Room TG.01 Ext 85175 [email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * The following papers are attached for this meeting: Agenda item 2 Written evidence submitted to previous PR/S2/05/14/1 Procedures Committee during its “founding principles” inquiry Agenda item 3 Correspondence between the Convener and PR/S2/05/14/2 the Inquiry Reporters Unit Correspondence between the Convener and PR/S2/05/14/3 the SPCB Correspondence between the Convener and PR/S2/05/14/4 the Faculty of Advocates Note by the Scottish Executive PR/S2/05/14/5 The following papers are attached for information: Executive response to the Committee’s Sewel PR/S2/05/14/6 Convention report (to follow) Article from SCOLAG journal by Barry PR/S2/05/14/7 Winetrobe on the Committee’s Sewel Convention report Letter from the Convener to the Presiding PR/S2/05/14/8 Officer on procedures relating to Crown appointees Minutes of the last meeting PR/S2/05/13/M PR/S2/05/13/M PROCEDURES COMMITTEE MINUTES 13th Meeting, 2005 (Session 2) Tuesday 8 November 2005 Present: Mr Richard Baker Chris Ballance Cathie Craigie Karen Gillon (Deputy Convener) Donald Gorrie (Convener) Alex Johnstone Bruce McFee The meeting opened at 10.04 am. 1. Item in private: The Committee agreed to take item 6 in private but then to announce the outcome of the discussion in public session. 2. Review of Parliamentary Time: The Committee took evidence in a round-table discussion from— Rev Graham Blount, Parliamentary Officer, Scottish Churches Parliamentary Office; Andrew Cubie, former member of the Consultative Steering Group; Iain McMillan, Director, CBI Scotland; John Park, Assistant Secretary, STUC; Brian Taylor, Political Editor, BBC Scotland; and Debbie Wilkie, Director, Scottish Civic Forum. 3. Private Bill Committee assesors: The Committee took evidence from— Alan Boyd, Director, McGrigors; and Kelly Harris, Assistant, Shepherd and Wedderburn. 4. Procedures relating to Crown appointees: The Committee considered and agreed a draft response to a call for evidence from the Justice 1 Committee in relation to the Scottish Commissioner for Human Rights Bill. 5. First Minister’s Questions: The Committee considered a letter from the Presiding Officer inviting it to review Rule 13.7.4 in relation to First Minister’s Question Time. The Committee decided, however, that the current procedures were satisfactory and did not require further consideration. 6. Private Bill Committee assessors (in private): The Committee considered legal advice on the evidence received in the inquiry and considered what further oral and written evidence to invite. The Committee agreed to invite representatives of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body (SPCB) to give oral evidence at the next meeting and to write to the Faculty of Advocates seeking clarification of its written evidence. An informal briefing with staff of the Private Bills Unit would be arranged for those members interested in attending. 7. Private Bill Committee assessors: The Convener announced the Committee’s decisions under item 6. Members were invited to send to the clerks any further questions to be put in writing to the Scottish Executive Inquiry Reporters Unit. The meeting closed at 1.36 pm. Andrew Mylne Clerk to the Committee PR/S2/05/14/1 Agenda item 2 PROCEDURES COMMITTEE Parliamentary Time Inquiry Relevant written evidence from previous Committee’s “founding principles” inquiry Note: This table reproduces relevant written evidence from Volumes 4 and 5 of the Committee’s 3rd Report, 2003 (Session 1). It is structured according to the main themes of the current Committee’s present inquiry. Evidence by: Text: Volume Page Sitting patterns Angela O’Hagan, Equal “The Parliament’s decision to work in term-time, observing school holidays, is 4 235 Opportunities Commission entirely in keeping with its founding commitment to equal opportunities, and ensuring family-friendly practices for members and other workers in the Parliament.” “EOC Scotland is of the view that the current working pattern of the Scottish Parliament is appropriate. Currently the working day of the parliament is reasonably family-friendly. … We have been aware of attempts to introduce evening or additional sittings. We would strongly oppose this as it presents an unnecessary burden on those Members and workers with caring responsibili-ties, as well as those who are within travelling distances of their constituency where they are able to continue their work outwith parliamentary sittings.” Mike Watson MSP, Convener, “Rule 5.8 requires that Parliamentary Bureau to ensure that sufficient time is set 4 275 Finance Committee aside for each of the stages of the budget process. In practice it is clear that this arrangement is not yet working as it should as many subject committees find that they have insufficient time to devote to scrutiny of the budget, given the demands of the legislative programme and other necessary work such as inquiries.” “Sufficient time must be set aside throughout the Parliament for each of the stages 4 277 of the budget process.” 1 PR/S2/05/14/1 Agenda item 2 Evidence by: Text: Volume Page Scottish Parliamentary “Should the Procedures Committee be considering the pattern of Parliamentary 5 46 Corporate Body (SPCB) sittings and any changes from the present arrangements, as part of its inquiry then it might wish to note our views as employers of the staff in the Parliament. Staff are already fully stretched in support of the services required by the Parliament … There are also areas whose work is unseen but directly related to Parliamentary sittings, such as IT and Facilities Management … This is therefore an area of strong concern among staff of the Parliament.” Presiding Officers “One of the most significant ways of taking the Parliament to the people of Scotland 4 427 is through Members’ constituency work. Members continue to work on constituency matters and fulfil constituency engagements throughout the full parliamentary term.” CE, Angus Council “It does appear that the Parliament has established a more appropriate working 4 29, 35 pattern than Westminster. The Council welcomes the absence of “late night sittings” and, to that extent, believes that the Parliament’s routine is indeed “family friendly”. … The intention that the Scottish Parliament will keep normal business hours and take Scottish school holidays may open up membership of the Parliament. It would cause problems of access for people in employment.” Chief Executive, Falkirk “The pastoral arrangements, working patterns etc. of the Parliament are generally 4 261 Council outwith our experience although these seem to be “family friendly” – a move which is applauded, supported and followed.” Stuart Allan, Head of Law and “I think that the programming and sitting patterns of the new parliament has worked 4 272 Administration, Fife Council really well in achieving equal opportunities not only for members of the Scottish Parliament but also staff and public alike.” Judy Wilkinson , Secretary “The clear timetable and good time management enabled members of the 4 360 SAGS Committee to organise their family and business commitments and attend the hearings.” Scottish Council for “SCDI is of the view that the working pattern of the Parliament is appropriate and 5 104 Development and Industry family friendly for the organisations working with the Parliament. However, we have (SCDI) concerns that MSPs, their staff and Parliamentary staff are under considerable stress and pressure of time.” Scottish Council for Voluntary “The family friendly timetable of the Parliament has received some criticism from 5 119 Organisations (SCVO) the press, but the large number of women MSPs must in some way point to the 2 PR/S2/05/14/1 Agenda item 2 Evidence by: Text: Volume Page success of this policy. The Parliament should guard against increasing its schedule in response to criticism; this may have a negative effect in terms of women and candidates from minority groups seeking election in the future.” Scottish Trades Union Council “The need to ensure that ‘family friendly’ working practices are applied to the staff 5 394 (STUC) that service the Parliament as well as the members serving within it.” South Lanarkshire Council “Although the Parliament has made a commitment to ‘normal’ hours working (in 5 440 order to promote equal opportunities for its own members and employees), there may be occasions when evening meetings are required in order to allow people in full-time employment or education to attend.” UNISON Scotland “The meeting hours of Parliament are also a welcome step forward from the 5 483 restrictive practices of Westminster.” Balance of time between different types of Chamber business D.G.Carnegie, Member of the “I have been disappointed at the general level of attendance at many Parliamentary 4 97-98 Adult Learning Project debates.
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