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000001 1 BEFORE THE FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 2 3 In the Matter of: DOCKET NO. UNDOCKETED 4 ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. 5 ___________________________/ 6 7 8 PROCEEDINGS: STAFF WORKSHOP 9 TAKEN AT THE 10 INSTANCE OF: The Staff of the Florida Public Service Commission 11 DATE: Thursday, September 6, 2012 12 TIME: Commenced at 9:30 a.m. 13 Concluded at 5:04 p.m. 14 PLACE: Betty Easley Conference Center Room 148 15 4075 Esplanade Way Tallahassee, Florida 16 TRANSCRIBED 17 FROM DIGITAL RECORDING BY: JANE FAUROT, RPR 18 Official FPSC Reporter (850) 413-6732 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 000002 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 MR. CRAWFORD: Good morning, everyone. I'm 3 Ben Crawford with the Office of Industry Development and 4 Market Analysis. Today is September 6th, 2012, and this 5 is the Public Service Commission Staff Workshop on 6 Electric Vehicle Charging. 7 With me is Mark Futrell also from the Office 8 of Industry Development and Marketing Analysis, Robert 9 Graves from the Office of Engineering, Lee Gilbert from 10 the Division of Economics, and Charles Murphy from the 11 Office of General Counsel. 12 Mr. Murphy, if you will please read the 13 notice. 14 MR. MURPHY: Yes. We're here pursuant to 15 notice for the electric vehicle charging workshop. 16 MR. CRAWFORD: Thank you. All right. This 17 workshop is being held because of the newly created 18 statute, Section 366.94, Florida Statutes, created by 19 House Bill 7117 during the most recent legislative 20 session. 21 This section addresses electric vehicle, or 22 EV, policy. Subsection 1 exempts the nonutility selling 23 electricity for EV charging from regulation as a utility 24 by the PSC. Section 2 designates the Department of 25 Agriculture and Consumer Services as the agency FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 000003 1 responsible for setting requirements related to EV 2 charging stations. Subsection 3 prohibits nonelectric 3 vehicles from using EV charging parking spots. 4 Subsection 4 is the reason we are here today. 5 This section requires the PSC to conduct a study of the 6 potential effects of EV charging, both public and 7 private, on energy consumption and impact on the 8 electrical grid in Florida. The statute also requires 9 the PSC to investigate the feasibility of using off-grid 10 solar photovoltaic, or PV power as an energy source for 11 EV charging stations. These three subject areas are 12 reflected both in the agenda for this workshop and in 13 our plans for the report itself. 14 The report is due to the President of the 15 Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and 16 the Executive Office of the Governor on December 31st of 17 this year. The purpose of this workshop is to gather 18 information to support the report required by this newly 19 enacted statute. 20 We will begin this morning with presentations 21 from speakers representing several different aspects of 22 the electric vehicle industry. These presenters 23 represent EV manufacturers, charger manufacturers, the 24 solar industry, and Florida's investor-owned and 25 municipal utilities. Following these presentations, FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 000004 1 we'll break for lunch. In the afternoon we will begin 2 with a technical roundtable discussion of the present 3 and future of EV charging in Florida. Following this 4 roundtable discussion, we will have a public comment 5 period. 6 If you are interested in speaking during the 7 public comment period, we have a sign-up sheet in the 8 back on the podium. Please fill that out ahead of time; 9 that way we can make sure we give enough time to anyone 10 who wishes to speak. The amount of time allotted for 11 public comment is going to depend on the number of 12 people who have signed up for public speaking. 13 Following the workshop, we will ask for 14 post-workshop comments to be submitted to me via e-mail 15 on September 27th. All workshop material, including 16 today's presentations, the post-workshop comments, and 17 the report itself are going to be placed on the PSC 18 website. We should have that up fairly soon. 19 One change from the earlier agenda that went 20 out is Nissan Motors was unable to make the workshop. 21 In their place we have a speaker from the Electric Power 22 Research Institute, or EPRI, who will give an overview 23 of the implications of EV charging. 24 One housekeeping note. All presenters, please 25 speak into the microphone as this workshop is being FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 000005 1 broadcast and recorded. 2 The first presenter will be Mark Duvall from 3 the Electric Power Research Institute, who will give us 4 an overview of information and statistics related to 5 electric vehicle charging. 6 Mark. 7 MR. DUVALL: All right. Thank you, everyone. 8 I appreciate the invitation to speak here. This is a 9 little early for me, so hopefully I'll get through this 10 with a minimum of errors and mistakes. 11 I'm going to talk a little bit about -- Britta 12 Gross is going to give a fantastic overview on 13 fascinating electric vehicle technology, and I probably 14 wish I could give her presentation, but instead I will 15 just talk about the kinds of numbers that we are seeing 16 in the market and what you can look to for the future. 17 This is a marathon, not a sprint, but it is 18 important to know that there are a couple of underlying 19 factors driving the electric vehicle market, or the 20 plug-in vehicle market that regardless of the early 21 skepticism and some of the media reports you see are 22 there, and they're not going to go away. 23 So the first thing is this is what you see 24 today. July and August were very similar. Actually, I 25 think the Chevy Volt set a record for sales last month. FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 000006 1 So there's probably another six to 7,000 vehicles on 2 this chart for July and August, but this is what you're 3 seeing. I'm going to compare that to the market launch 4 of hybrid electric vehicles, which started in 2000 with 5 the Toyota Prius and the Honda Insight. Quite a bit 6 lower, so, you know, essentially there's more models on 7 the market now, the numbers are greater, and the slope 8 of the curve is greater. 9 There are lots of models in the pipeline, and 10 we can go and discuss our favorites or the ones that we 11 are skeptical about, but there are a lot of models in 12 the pipeline, and every major automaker has production 13 programs in plug-in vehicles. 14 The second thing that is important to 15 understand is -- and you're going see -- let me explain 16 something to you. I've kind of put the cart before the 17 horse a little bit. EPRI creates market projections, 18 and we create a low and a medium in blue and a high in 19 green, and we do that account for everyone between the 20 super-pessimist to the super-optimist. And we don't 21 mind being wrong, which is what is a requirement to be 22 in the projection game, is you have to be willing to be 23 wrong, and wrong on almost a continual basis. 24 I will show those for Florida. And one of 25 reasons we do this is not to compete with the McKenzies FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 000007 1 of the world or the Pike Research, the folks that do 2 this for a living, but it's mostly because we do it on a 3 county level. And since it's difficult to define a 4 utility's service territory, we found the best way to do 5 that is to drive all results down to the county level, 6 let the utilities give us their service territory in 7 fragments of counties, and then we can give them an 8 adoption projection so they can understand the kind of 9 numbers they are going to deal with. Because a million 10 vehicles by 2015, or 10 million vehicles by 2020 doesn't 11 mean a lot to the person responsible for city 12 infrastructure or someone doing utility planning. 13 These charts here, and they mean a lot of 14 different things, just sort of look at kind of the 15 aggregate. These are the numbers required in California 16 by the California Zero Emission Vehicle Mandate, and the 17 eleven states that adopt California's vehicle emissions 18 laws. Florida is not one of those states at this point 19 in time, but what we're saying is that it drives a 20 very -- you know, it drives sort of modest projections 21 the automakers are required to provide in the largest 22 automotive market in the country and a number of states 23 whose combined market are actually somewhat larger than 24 California's. So what we are saying is that this 25 regulation -- you can't just comply as an automaker. FLORIDA PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION 000008 1 You can't just comply. 2 So before we talk about the new fuel economy 3 standards or anything else, keep in mind this number is 4 what they have to provide.