IN HARM'S WAY

The Civil Rights Hearings

EDITED BY Catharine A. MacKinnon

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HARVARD UNIVERSITY PRESS Cambridge, Massachusetts London, England 1997 Contents

INTRODUCTIONS

The Roar on the Other Side of Silence by Catharine A. MacKinnon 3 Suffering and Speech by Andrea Dworkin 25

THE HEARINGS

The Minneapolis Hearings 39

SESSION I E. M. 103 Daryl Dahlheimer 157 Catharine A. N. C. 106 Bill Seáis 160 MacKinnon 40 G.C. 107 Cheryl Champion 161 Andrea Dworkin 43 R. M. M. 108 Gary Kaplan 165 Edward Donnerstein 44 T. S. 114 NancySteele 168 Linda Marchiano 60 J.B. 121 RichelleLee 171 Pauline Bart 68 Shannon McCarthy Charlotte Kasl 172 Jane Strauss 76 Bicha 124 Sue Santa 175 Richard Alberta 80 Steve Jevning 129 Sherry Arndt 176 M. M. D. 134 SueSchafer 179 SESSION II James H. Koplin 135 Michael Laslett 180 Tom Beaver 82 C. B. 136 Ornar Johnson 183 Sharon Warwick 83 Naomi Scheman 136 Carol Ann 185 Rick Osborne 84 Carne Rickard 138 Joan Gilbertson 1S6 Wanda Laurence 88 Kathleen McKay 186 Clifford Greene 89 SESSION III DickMarple 187 Tim Campbell 93 Bill Neiman 143 Jan Spring 190 Roben Halfhill 95 S. G. 145 WilliamProck 192 Eugene Conway 96 Carole laFavor 147 Trina Porte 198 Theresa McDermott 97 Wanda Richardson 149 Karen Kurtz 199 Paul Price 98 Sharon Rice Steve Carlson 99 Vaughn 152 R.M. 101 Barbara Chester 155 x CONTENTS

Minneapolis: Exhibits [original exhibit numbers are in brackets] 203 Exhibit 1 [7]: Studies Submitted to the Minneapolis City Council, Dec. 12,1983, on the Effects of Pornography (Donnerstein) 203 Exhibit 2 [8]: Questions and References (Donnerstein) 204 Exhibit 3 [10]: Nat Laurendi, Polygraph Examination of Linda Lovelace, Nov. 8,1979 205 Exhibit 4 [12]: Letter of Kathleen L. Barry, Ph.D., Nov. 15, 1983 213 Exhibit 5 [13]: Letter of Flora Colao, C.S.W., Nov. 10,1983 214 Exhibit 6 [17]: Audience Data on "Not a Love Story" (Bart) 216 Exhibit 7 [21]: Letter of Michelle Harrison, M.D., Dec. 9,1983 220 Exhibit 8 [31]: Letter of Robín Morgan, Dec. 5,1983 221 Exhibit 9 [34]: Letter of Jaime Lyn Bauer 224 Exhibit 10 [36]: Memo of A. W., Dec. 13,1983 225 Exhibit 11 [43]: Letter of Marvin E. Lewis, Esq., Dec. 7,1983 227 Exhibit 12 [42]: Letter of Jann Fredrickson Ramus, M.S.W., Dec. 13,1983 227 Exhibit 13 [44]: Letter of , Ph.D., Dec. 7,1983 228 Exhibit 14 [45]: Letter of Ellen T. Luepker, M.S.W., A.C.S.W., Dec. 12,1983 229 Exhibit 15 [47]: Les Sussman and Sally Bordwell, The RapistFile (Chelsea House, 1981) 229 Exhibit 16 [48]: Steven G. Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth, The Only Living Witness: A True Account ofHomicidal Insanity (Simón and Schuster, 1983) 230 Exhibit 17 [49]: Complaint, State v. [defendant], Hennepin County District Court, Oct. 7,1983 232 Exhibit 18 [55]: Letter of Marcia Kading, Dec. 8,1983 236 Exhibit 19 [53]: Letter of Sandra Hewitt, Ph.D., Dec. 9,1983 237 Exhibit 20 [54]: Letter of d. c, Dec. 5,1983 238 Exhibit 21 [58]: Letter of Trudee Able-Peterson, Dec. 1,1983 239 Exhibit 22 [59]: Letter of Katherine Brady, Nov. 29,1983 240 Exhibit 23 [60]: Letter of Louise Armstrong, Dec. 8,1983 242 Exhibit 24 [61]: Letter of Anne-Marie Eriksson and Erik A. Eriksson, Lt. Col. USAF (Ret.), Dec. 7,1983 248 Exhibit 25 [64]: Timothy Beneke, Men on Rape: What They Have to Say about Sexual Violence (St. Martin's Press, 1982) 248 Exhibit 26 [65]: Letter of Jim Lovestar, Dec. 6, [1983] 250 Exhibit 27 [66]: Letter of , M.Div., M.F.A., Dec. 1,1983 251 Exhibit 28 [78]: Telegram of , Dec. 11,1983 251 CONTENTS xi

Minneapolis: Memo on Proposed Ordinance on Pornography by Catharine A. MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin, Dec. 26,1983 253

Minneapolis: Press Conference, July 25,1984 260 Press Reléase 260 Statement of Cheryl Champion 261 Statement of Rev. Susan Wilhelm 263 Statement of Peggy 264 Statement of Ms. J. 265 Statement of Ms. P. 265

The Indianapolis Hearing 269 Catharine A. MacKinnon 269 Deborah Daniels 281 Mary 276 Bill Marsh 285 Judy 279 JohnWood 288 Detective Terry Hall 279

Indianapolis: Appendices 290 Appendix A [Exhibit P]: Interview of Dr. Edward Donnerstein by Catharine A. MacKinnon, Jan. 10, 1984 290 Appendix B: Brief Amicus Curiae of Andrea Dworkin, American Booksellers v. Hudnut (Excerpt) 310 Appendix C: Brief of the Neighborhood Pornography Task Forcé, Amicus Curiae, in Support of Appellant, American Booksellers v. Hudnut (Excerpt) 321

The Los Angeles Hearing 332 Sylvia Gentilly 333 Gail Stevenson 349 Jeffrey Masson 336 Carol Soble 350 BettyBrooks 338 Peter Bogdanovich 351 Anonymous 340 Patrie Mayers 352 Rosemary Pagoslev 341 Elana Bowman 353 Pauline Bart 342 Dani Adams 355 Sandra Hale 344 Catharine A. MacKinnon 356 TobySummer 345 B.J. Cling 357 PatBrown 346 Sarah Schultz 359 CarlFaber 347 Gloria Allred 360 Sally Fisk 348 xii CONTENTS

The Massachusetts Hearing 361

Representative Barbara Hildt 361 Rick Karpel 398 Representative Shirley Owens-Hicks 362 Lierre Keith 399 Representative Mary Jeanette Murray 362 Nancy Ryan 401 Representative Marc Draisen 363 Claudia Martínez 402 William Hudnut 364 Daniel Chartrand 403 Michael Bamberger 366 Jackson Katz 404 PatHaas 370 Bob Chatelle 406 PeggyCharren 371 Suzanne Fuller 406 Karen Harrison 372 John Swomley 407 Wendy Kaminer 378 Ann Russo 408 L.B. 381 Betsy Warrior 411 Karen Hudner 382 Jean M. Moran 412 Catharine A. MacKinnon 384 Barry Shuchter 413 Andrea Dworkin 391 Jaye Morra 414 Gayle Markels 394 Dorian Gregory 415 Frederick Schauer 396 James D'Entremont 416

Massachusetts: Written Submissions 417 Submission of Julie White 417 Letter of Mary R. Harvey, Ph.D., and Judith L. Hermán, M.D., March 16,1992 420 Submission of Mary Ann Cloherty, March 12,1992 420 Submission of Kathleen O'Neill Alexander, March 16,1992 421 Submission of Gail Kielson 423

The Ordinances 426 Minneapolis Ordinance, 1983 426 Minneapolis Ordinance, 1984 433 Indianapolis Ordinance, 1984 438 Massachusetts Ordinance, 1992 457

Appendix: American Booksellers Ass'n. Inc. v. Hudnut, 771 F.2d 323 (7th Cir. 1985), aff'd. 106 S.Ct. 1172 (1986) 462

Index 483