Fourth Series1R.2 Tuesday, February 18, 1969 Magha 29, 1890 (Saka)
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No.2-Tuesday, Feb;'uary 18, 1969/Magha 29, 1890 (Saka)
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Obituary Reference 1-2 Oral Answers to Questions- "Starred Questions Nos. 1 to 6 and 8 2-31 Written Answers to Qnestions- Starred Questions Nos. 7 and 9 to 30 32-50 Unstarred Questions Nos. I to 19, 21 to 31, 33 to 145, 147 to 157 and 159 to 2eo. 50-209 Papers Laid on the Table 209-10 Bills passed by Rajya Sabha- (i) Advocates (Second Amendment) Bill 210 (ii) Motor Vehicles (Amendment) Bill 210 President's Assent to Bills 210- II Public Accounts Committee-· Forty-first Report 212 Estimates Committee- Seventieth Report 212 Customs (Amendment) Bill, 1968-Wil/ulrawn 214-16 Customs (Amendment) Bill, 19(9-ill/J"o:/liced 216-18 Delhi Motor Vehicles Taxation (Amendment) Bill-lnlroJu('('d 218-19 Registration of Births and Deaths Bill 219-38 Motion to resume Debate 219-24 Clause 10 224-30 Motion of No confidence in the Council of Ministers 212-4, 230-318 Shri P. Ramamurti 230-48 Shri R.D. Bhandare 248-55 Shri N. Dandeker 255-66 Shri Thirumala Rao 266-71 Shri O. Viswanathan 271-74 Shri Shantilal Shah 274-79 Shri H. N. Mukerjee 279-88 Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah 288-301 Shri Tenneti Viswanatham 301--{)7 Shri Randhir Singh 307-13 Shri Shinkre 313-111 Business Advisory Committee- Twenty-eighth Report 318 • The sian +marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the Hoor of the House by that Member. LOK SABRA DEBATES
LOK SABHA MR. SPEAKER: The House tnay stand in silence for a short while to .'rrcss its Tire Lok SoMa mtt al Ef'l'm ofllre sorroYt'. Clnd. The ,\I('",/lr,-., then Jlonc/ i" ,Ul"nn" lor n ,f/mrt )fhi/t. I MR. SPEAKER in lire ('hai,1 OBlTl'AR Y RfTER[l':CE MR. SPEAKER I ha,'e to inform the ORAL ANSWFRS TO QlJLSTlONS Honse of the sad dCl11i~c of Shri Heli Ram Cenlral C .. unell for Indnstrl.. Da~ who ra"'~cd away at Gaui1ali on the 14th .HII,.. ,)· January. 19~9 at the age of sixt\'. ·1. SUR) P. M. SAVFLD: SHRI MANIHIlAI J. PATEL Shri Reli Ram Das "as a Member of the I'i"t Lok Sabha during the years 1952·57. SHRI RAGHUVIR SINGH SHASTRI: We deerl)' mourn the I"ss of this friend and SHRI UIfNGALRA Y A NAIDU : I am ~lIrc the HlHJ~C \\ill join me in (;on\'cying our (ondolcnltS to the bercayed Will tile Minister pf INDUSTRIAL famil~·. DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be rica 'Cd to state' SHRI HEM BARUA (Mangaldai) : I have had the proud rrhilege of knowing Mr. (a) whether a meeting of the Central RcH Ram Das \cry intimately for oyer a Advi..ory Council for rndu~tric!'t Wa\ held decade. He was a memOcr of the Scheduled in the beginning (If Januar~. 1969; and Castes and gave the be!.t expression to ('ur national aspirations. He was a \'aliant (n) if !iO, the topiC' di'oCus!>ed and the fighter for the freedom of India. He ga\'e m~in deci~ion~ arrived at 85 a re5ult thrre· our nationalist aspirations the best e'rre"ion. of ? On behalf of our Party, we deeply mourn the loss of Beli Ram Das who u a Member of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TIlE this House made distinctive contributions to MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOp· the deliberations of this House. MENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COM· PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI RAGHUNATHA THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER REDDY> : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The meetin. OF ATOMIC ENERGY AND MINISTER of the Ce"tral Ad, isory Council of Industries OF PLANNING (SHRIMATI INDIRA re, icwed the general ta)nonlic !r.ituation and GANDHI: Shri Deli Ram Das was one Industrial development in the country and of the diminishing number of our old freedom abo considered mailers having a beario& on fiahters who joined the freedom struule in industrial licenain& policy. Suantionsi 1921. He worked in many fields but "'lI' o~tions made b)' members related to 3 Oral Answus FEBRUARY 18, 1969 0,,11 AlUWus 4 foreign collaboration, avoidance of repetitive ~ f.t ~' 1l1f!f0f/ffi t, m m it' ff) ~ import of know-how, supply of raw materials, ~~ if~' ~ ~ I i rf~ ~ ~ import substitution, export promotion, ex- m .,.. pansion of marketing facilities, the need for ~m ,,) ~~i~ f~ ~ : {'f 'Tifl1' ,,) ~ ~ : 11'''' ' ~ fFT, ~~ ~ it ~ .. ~ 1!i ~~CJf it~ ~ 't~, ~! f m~ ~ I! ~ ITfJmT ~ f~ ~ ~ i it ~ ~~ <'I1TT ~~ ¥l'<'fT ~ I {'T f' ...r~ it em ~, or) ~ t f~ 'R ~ Iffir f.! J~ t ~ it ~ r ' 'I ~ ~ f1I; ~ rtm~~~.m~ ~r f 'fl f r"fr ~Jl ~i ~ 1tl q) ~"'I "'" : ~ ~~ Wif ~ f~ SHRI F. A. AHMED: As far as I re- ~ f ~'fmt~ i fi~ ~ i 'fin: ~~ft' f it member, no such specific case was raised in this ~ ij; ~ ~ I 'lf~~ , ~ ~r ro f ~ \l"T Council. f ~ ~ C!h: 'lf~~, !CJ:fT"- q'h SHRI UMANATH: Let the Minister make himself sure that no such Ihing wa' raised in ~ft .f" ~~ ~ IliT ~ I! ~~lI Of if; ~ this Council, otherwise he will face another ifUIn: ~ f;rnij; Ili ~ '1~ ~ ~1"~ ~ resolution here. f~e ~n r 'l f" ~ MR. SPEAKER : The hon. Member may q) ~~ """ ~ ~ ilH! If"-"! kindly resume his seat. This is the Question ~ fi;fi fri ttlfi ~ SHRI F. A. AHMED: Perhaps the hon. What about my first two questions to which Member is not aware that under OAe of the I have not received any reply? provisions of the Industrial Regulation Act a committee already exists of non-official SHRI F. A. AHMED: The hon. Member members. I do not now remember the names wants certain figures. I said that 1 want of members associated with it from this notice. So far as the report is concerned, the House. But Members of this House have latest report of the committee will be placed been a!!Sodated with il. They go into the on the Table of the House. question of licences granted, rejected ond which are kept pending, and also deal with SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: the specific cases where there was delay. Since the Industrial Advisory Council has discussed this matter, it comes within the purview of this question. '" ~f. "Wl' ; ii~ 'f ~n .. ;n:f 'foWfT<'f 'f.~ ~'!"f~f r 'fof h'fo it 'RT f ~~l ~ 'ir MR. SPEAKER : He is not ready with t"'ff'fo<'f ;rr i ~ qTlmf ~ l ~ ~f ~ ;n'l: it the figures; he wants time. "l'ff ~' ~ ~ I 1JT"IHT f'fo\'f.,r ~'l"li r SHRI HEM BARUA : In view of the fact ~Il ! f~ i!TifT ~ f ~~ ~ ;!".,Ilf.<'f '11 that rellional imbalances in industrial develop- ~r~ Ifi"T qpmr 'fo<:;r it ~l~ ..1'ff lir.rn if ment is one of Ihe main reasons for the deep- seated resentment in certain parts of the f'F(f;r1 ~ 'foT ~ f ~ q1\ ""f'for ~ r country, particularly in Orissa, West Bengal ~ r..-tt lH'for~ ;t 'fliT 'foT{ liT3f'lT ;r.,T"f ~ ? and Assam-in Assam the number of people unemployed is 4 lakhs; please do not forget SHRI F. A. AHMED: Sir, I can give the that-in view of Ihat, may I know what steps are being tak:>n by the lIovernment, as assured exact figures, but I have not got them with by the hon. Minister on the Hoor of the me at present. The question with regard to House during the last session, to remove technical know-how was discussed in a general regional imbalances in order to root out the form but not in a specific manner. causes for reselument in the country? SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI: SHRI F. A. AHMED: The question of May I know from the hon. Minister, since regional imbalanceis a very complicated one. he came into power only during the last two It is not only relatig to one State .·is a ~ . years, how many licences during these two years another but also within one State itself. Thill have been iuued to those houses who had been matter has been engaging our attention. The mentioned as monopoly-houses in the Mono- Planning Commission had appointed Iwo poly CommiS6ion's Report, how many licen- groups to examine the question and give their ces have been issued State-wise, and whether recommendations. In fact, we are ready with any particular State, A or B, has JIOt more our recommendations to place them before Ih. licences 1. May I also know whether it is a lIovernment; but are waiting for the report of fact that it has not removed the reaional the working group so Ihat we may CIHlrdinatc imbalance so far as industry is concerned? these two reports and then place the recom- Thirdly, I would request him to place before mendation before the sovernment. the House at least the interim recomlDCllda- tions of the Industrial Licensillfl Review SHRI HEM BARUA: The Planning Committee which is· takins so 101lfl· 10 Commission has done nothing up tlIl now. submit its report to this House ? SHRI F. A. AHMED: They have set up a SHRI F. A. AHMED: I want notice for worldng P"Oop. When that report Is avanable this question, and the report will be placed we will CODilder it a10nl with our report IIIId before the HoUle. tlien take a decision as to how to tackJethil problem. MR; SPEAKER : Shri Hem Barua. SHIt.I KARTIK ORAOM : 1 wouJdllkli to SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI know from thehoo. Minister the compositionor 11 0'01 Answers FEBRI:1AR Y 18. 1969 0,01 An3wers 12 the Central Advisory Council for Industries in SHR! F. A. AHMED: They arc valid for terms of the number of industrialists. indus- all industries. trialists with technical background. technical personnel and Members of Parliament. if any. Commission On Ralh".y Safety and the criteria laid down for the selection of members for the Central Advisory Council ·2. SHRI K. M. ABRAHAM : for Industries. SHRI NAMBlAR : SHRI V. NARASIMHA RAO : SHRI F. A. AHMED: Sir. if you so direct. SHRI HEM RAJ : I can place a list of members of the Council before the House which will give an indication SHRI SRADHAKAR SUPAKAR : of the composition of members of the Council. SHRI A. SREEDHARAN : Representation has been given in the Council SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : for industrialists. manufacturers, consumers, SHRI SHRICAND GOYAL: labour and so on. SHRI KARNI SINGH: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : It was SHRI SURENDRANATH DWIVEDY : reported after this meeting of the Central SHRI SO\MAR GUHA : Advisory Council that the big industri- SHRI RABI RA Y : alists who are members of this Council SHRI RAM SWARUP VIDYRTHI : had pressed for further relaxation SHRI BHARAT SINGH CHAUHAN: and almost total withdrawal of whatever restrictions still remain on foreign collabora- SHRI NARAIN SW ARUP SHARMA: tion by the private sector. I want to know SHRI BANSH NARAIN SINGH: whether as a result of this demand the govern- SHRI ONKAR SINGH: ment has decided. and if so, in what specific SHRI K. M. MADHUKAR: respects, to remove the existing restrictions which remain only on paper of the Industrial Policy Resolution? Will the Minister of RALW A YS be pleased to state : SHRI F. A. AHMED : There is no ques- tion of removing any restriction. Whenever a (a) whether it is a fact that the Commis- proposal comes before us we take into consi- sion on Railway Safety has criticised the Rail- deration the interests nf the country and our way Board in its report for 1966-67; whole idea is that we should not only receive foreign technical know-how but we should (b) if so, the main points of criticism ; also start developing it. It is from this point of view that all the proposals arc being (c) whether Government have examined considered by the Ministry. the report; and SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: It was not (d) if so. the decilion taken on each rec0- my question. Am I to take it that they have mmendation 1 refused to remove the restrictions? What is the answer. because a demand has been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE made ? MINISTR Y OF RAILW A YS (SHRI PARIMAL GHOSH): (a) and (b). The SHRI F. A. AHMED We have not re- report has already been placed on the Table moved the restriction. of the House. SHRIMATI SUDHA REDDY: Will the (c) Yes. sir. hon. Minister bear in mind the sugacstion of the Chief Minister of Mysore that industriea (d) It is a narrative report and doea not could increasinaly be located in such States contain any recommendation. It. however. where two very rare raw materials are avail- makes a mention of the various reI:O- able, namely. climate of peace and ltabillty of IDlllClldations made by the Commluion. power? arisina out of its inspections. sanctions 13 Ora/ Answers MAGHA 29. 1890 ~ Ora/ Answers 14 Issued. and inqumes into individual SHRI RAM SWARUP VIDYARTHI: I accidents. all of which had already been am not putting any question. I am only examined careful1y on receipt of the requesting you that the reply to part (a) is inquiry reports and such action as necess- no reply. In the question part (a) is :- ary had been taken. It may also be mentioned that the Committee headed by Shri "whether it is a fact that the Commission Wanchoo. ex-Chief Justice of India of which on Railway Safety has criticised the Railway the Commissioner of Railway Safety also Board in its report for 1966-67" and he says is a member. is already looking into all tbat it is a narrative report. aspects of Railway Safety. MR. SPEAKER : The reply is not appro- SHRI K. M. ABRAHAM: Will the priate. I hope, the Minister wiU note it. Minister be pleased to state what specific steps Next question. - the Government has taken to avoid these accidents? Take Ol'Cr of the British India Corpo• .ra tloo, KSDPur. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: The Minister bas been changed. '3. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO : SHRI PARIMAL GHOSH: As I have already mentioned, the ex-Chief Justice is Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL already inquiring into the matter. We will DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY &0 into whatever recommendations will be AFFAIRS be pleased to state: made and. if necessary. further action will be taken accordingly. (a) whether Government have taken any final decision to take over the control of the SHRI K. M. ABRAHAM: Is there any- British India Corporation. Kanpur ; and thing in the Commission's Report about the Railway Minister's attitude towards the Rail- (b) if so, the details thereof? way Board and that the Railway Minister be changed? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP· SHRI PARIMAL GHOSH: No. Sir. MENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COM· Nothing of thet nature has been mentioned PANY AFFAIRS (SHRI RAGHUNATHA in the Report. REDDY) : (a) and (b). Government has decided to taken over Cooper Allen and MR, SPEAKER: There are about 16 North·West Tannery units of the British names here and unless I call all these 16 India Corporation. Members I cannot call anybody else. That will take about half an hour. After all, the SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: The British Railway Budget is coming tomorrow. So. India Corporation has got its own history. A with the permission of the House, I shall go number of cases of forgery, cheating, misapp' to the next question. ropriation and all sorts of criminal offences by the directors have been there. Also, in the Twentieth Report submitted by the SHRI RAM SWARUP VIDYARTHI; Petitions Committee ot Rajya Sabha it hal May I meke a little submission? I pvc been disclosed that the Government of India notice of this question, is responsible for all these things. The Sarjoo Prasad Committee was appointed to go into MR. SPEAKER : If I allow you, I will the irregularities of the British India Corpora- have to allow all the other 16 Members. Why tion. I would like to know the report of do you embarrass the House? The RaIlway the Sarjoo Prasad Committee. the details of Budpt i. camine. Therefore why do you the inquiry and whether any respoDlibility hal not have patience ? Otherwille. • whole balf- been 8xcd so far as these irrcauIaritics arc bour will be takeD up by this ODe question. concemcd. Also. in view of these imaularitics. IS Ora/ Answers ~ Y 18, 1969 Oral Answers 16 would the Government of India take over all THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL the concerns of the British India Corporation DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE forthwith? AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. AHMED) : May I point out we have SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: The already appointed a Commission to go hon. Member is a very experienced lawyer and into this question. Let us await the results he would not ask me to reply to certain of that. After that, whatever action is hypothetical questions mainly concerning called for will be taken. the realm of law. As far as the British India Corporation is concerned, no doubt, SHRI R. BARUA : May I knOll, firstly. they have got some history from Mundhra's what will be the amount that will be paid case which cannot be denied. But as far to the Company as a result of the take over as the irregularities arc concerned, the and, secondly, what will be the position of Government had taken into consideration the employees who were thrown out? various facts and appointed a retired High Court judge under Section 15 of the Industrial Development and Regulation Act. SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: As far as the first part of the que.tion of the hon. Member is concerned, I may submit that AN HON. MEMBER; He died. according to the proposal approved by the Share-holders meeting on 14th February, SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: Unfor- 1969, the proposal is that as regards land and tunately, the first Judge died. Another Judge buildings, plant and machinery, as specified in has been appointed and he is going into the Schedule attached there to which for the various aspects. At this stage, when the whole purpose of identification has been signed by mailer is almost in the nature of sub jl/dice, the Chairman of the meeting of the said I may not be called upon to express any undertaking and is free from all encumbra- opinion. nces, it will be at a nominal rate of rupee one. As regards the rest of the matter, SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : May I know what are the other liabilities, the liabilities whether any interim report has been submitted in rdation 10 the employees, etc. the details and, if so, what are the findings and what is are being worked out. It will be "ery the intention of the Government of India difficult for me to e.'press anything definite about taking over of all the units of the about it now. British India Corporation. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: I am happy SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: Under and I must thank the hon. Minister for taking the Industrial Development and Rqulation a very bold decision in taking over Cooper Act, except perhaps in very exceptional cases, Allen Co. at Kanpur. We were given to there is no question of any interim report understand that this particular unit is likely because Ihere must be a definite finding to be taken over either in the month of given by the Judlle. Therefore, we leave it February or March. I come from Kanpur to the wisdom of the Judge to lIive the and I know how things are moving. It !indinll instead of r utmost speed. The hon. Member would kindly MR. SPEAKER: Shrimati Sushila realise that there arc n number of legal Rohatsi. formalities which will have to be gone inlo. SHRIMATI SUSHllA ROHATGI: The B. I. C. is one of the oldest and the SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: I want a soundest industrial firms in U. P. definte reply whether it will be over in the except for this case of Cooper and month of March because 4000 employees have Allen which the Government is already not received their salaries and they arc probing into since it involves a capital of suffering. We want to end their sufferring crores of rupees and employment of lakhs of soon. labourers. May I, therefore, request the Government to keep only these two points in SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: On mind and concentrate only on Cooper and 14th February, 1969, the Shareholders meeting Allen and not tOllch the other things. The passed a Resolution. We will have to go interests of the BJ.C. as a whole should not inlo all the various aspects. Once there is suffer because it involves the industrially a transfer of properties. certain documents backward State of U. P. and also the ...eat will have to be signed. All these details labour potential. will have to be gone into and the leglll formalities will a ~ to be adhered to. SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY: The Government would keep in mind the views expressed by the hon. Member. I can assure the hon. Member on this occasion that Government would act with "T W"i" .... IliUtnq: lI''lJ'T:;r! tt;) utmost speed in this matter having regard to the production problems as well as the em- ';!fTOf ~ rr -it f'f~ ~ ~ ~ ;f\';r ~ ;;rt;r IHrlli'r fifi BooUll to Coif" Board Worken lfil~~ 'til ~~ft Iit fi'TlfT !TIfT ~ fir; if~ ·4. SHRI E. K. NAY ANAR : lfitv ~ 1t>T !f'fH 1Ii't I SHRIMATI SUSEELA GOPALN : SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : " ~ m ~ ~ Cflfi SHRI P. GOPALAN : 1t ~ 'fuJif IIiT Cf~ ~, ~ fi~ if ~r IIilf iffif ~' ' ~ I ~ trIIi ~"if ll' lfir Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE trrcr t ~ ~ ~ ~ f~r If><: ~ AND SUPPLY be pleased to refer to the reply given to the Un starred Question No. t I T-fII>1 fuTt IrA iti orr~ ;;r) l1.;roif &Tm 340 on the 12th November, 1968 and state: ~ fl'flfT ;;ni:t!Tr I Whether Govenunent have examined the question of payment of bonus to the ,,) IIIi1f ~ ~ ~ ol fl1 Minister may chaoae but the reply is the question has to be gone into first. There are same, The workers in the other public under- differences of opinion about it. Then, there takings have been liven bonus. May I know is the question of its repercussioDS. Even if why the Coffee Board Workers who are also we allow it here, what would be its repercus- workinl just like the other workers are not sions on the other boards? There, deftnitely, beinl given bonus 7 Why are Government the Icpl opinion is absolutely very clear tbat adoptinl a neptive attitude towards them so in the case of the Tea Board, Silk Board ele. far as bonus is concerned? Will Government this should not apply and it does not apply to take a decision on this mailer without further them. So, the question of its repercussions delay? on those boards is also tbere. This needed inter-Ministerial consultations and tbis has SHRl B, R, BHAGAT : I have said that caused some delay. But I may assure tbe there will not be any more delay. hon. Member that I shall look into it and a decision will be taken witb the utmost expedition, SHRl A, K. GOP ALAN: The question of bonus for the Coffee Board workers has SHRI LOBO PRABHU : May I know from been pending for the last seven years. I do not the hon. Minister whetber the Coffee Board know whether the hon. Minister knows that workers have contributed to the increased some of the disputes and demands of the production of Coffee which would entitle them Coffee Board workers were in the court, and to a bonus 7 Secondly, I would like to know there was a compromise between the Com- whether if Ihis bonus is paid, it wlil not be merce Ministry and the representatives of the rellected in the prices of Coffee which arc Coffee Board workers at a meeting where already too biah botb in the internal and in I was also present, and some compromise was the external markets. arrived it, and the cases were withdrawn on the compromise that some issues would be SHRI B. R. BHAGAT : He is askln. me settled then and the bonus also would be given for an opinion. immediately. But seven years already over and I would like to know the reason why SHRl LOBO PRABHU : I want to know there is delay in selliing the issue. The the facts. Coffee Board workers include the Coffee House workers as well as those in the estates SHRl B.R. BHAGAT : He has oxpreued May I know why Government have been an opinion, and he wants me to con1lrm it. I thinking over this problem for the last ICven am not in a position to confirm it. years without arriving at a decision? While the in the court were withdrawn there cases SHRl TENNETI VlSWANATHAM: May I was a compromise that when the other ques- know why the bon. Minister ia thiokinl of mlx- tions were settled this also would be looked in, up the Coffee Board with the other Boarda into. May I know the basic reason for this and think in. of its repercussions on other delay? Will the hon. Minister immediate- boards? Each case mUlt be taken by itself? ly lind out whether there was a compromise May I know wbether the hon. Minister and some settlement some years ago, and if will consider and sellie tbis apIona question so, what the settlement was, and see that this wbich bas been pendin. for a very 10111 time. matter is also settled immediately ? The Coffee Board itself is endeavourina to give tbe bonus. So, why should Govem:neot SHRl B. R. BHAGAT : I confess that I come in the way ? am not aware of this settlement and whether it has. been delayed by seven years, and whether SHRI B. R. BHAGAT: I only apoke of the settlement relates to this particular matter. the coDlidorations which came in taklo. a deci- The payment of bonus is under the terms of sion. But as I have aaid, a decision will be the Act. As I have explained, firstly, the taken as early as possible. main diftkulty was in reprd to lbe question wbolher the Bonus Act Would apply to tbe SIIortqe or CoIdatI COlli for Stell PIHt. Co/l'ee Board. There is a JcpJ differcoce on .,. SHRI DEVEN SI!N: WID tho that question on tbe pound whether tbe Minister or STEEL, MINI!S AND ),fBTALS Coffee Board is an industry or DOt. That be pleued to atate : 23 Oral Answers FEBIWARY 18, 1969 Oral Am","s 24 (a) whether it is a fact that Steel Plants ;r.T 1f~'t ~ "lIT ifTlf!fTi'T ~'f" ~ arc facing difficullies in lIettinll supply of m (b) whether it i. due to the fact that the iflfT 'fi ~1f If~ '1ft if~it f'" ~'1 private sector is not steppinll up the produc- ~ lif)" f'f.~ if ~l1 ~ ~ f.r ~~ ~rf~~ tion of cokinl coal; !f;';: if; r.JfT7: t"'1FI' 'f. ~ "') "'If~ ~ (c) the coking coal reserve in the lease if~ if; f.!frr (d) whether it is also a fact that eight SHRI JAGANATH RAO : It is not Companies have lease holdings which cover correct to say that steel production has been the major part of coking coal reserves; and suffering for want of supply of coking coal. It is true that the private owners of Ihese (e) if w, the steps contemplated tll captive mines have not been producing as ens ure adequa te supply to the Steel Plants much as the)' could. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : Deliberately. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF PETRO-CHEMICALS AND MINES & METALS SHRI JAGA· SHRI JAGANATH RAO: Not delibe- NATH RAO. (a) No, Sir. rately the quantum of offtake is the incentive for the mineowners to produce as much as possible; the offtake being small, they did (b) No, Sir. not produce as much, but they have been in.tructed to produce as much as possible (c) This information is being collected and not to depend upon the market for their and will be laid on the Table of the House supplies of coking coal, later. (d) Ye., Sir. 'tt ~ if" : iffl' 'f~ ~ll' ~ 'fT1'f 'f~r iil'1fOfTlfT ~'f 8 ",;qf.nit "'I' fi~ 'La.T 'IT (e) The private sector coal companies f'" Tof 8 'fi'l''1f1fll) "'T 'fJ'lf ~lifr!i "fTll' I holdinl hU8e rellCrves of coking coal have been advised to take adequate steps to exploit these reserves and increase cokin& coal pro- SHRI JAGANATH RAO : I can8ive the duction so as to meet the increasinll demand names. The names are: Turner and of the steel plants. TlSCO and liSCO, \lho Morrison, East India Coal Co., Bird & Co., own caplive mines, have Illw been called Ranigaoj Coal Association, H. K. Yohra upon to become self-sufficient within Ihe & Co., Thapar and Bros" TIseo and next 7 or 8 years and not be dependent on IISS0. tbe market collieries for supply of coking coal. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : The Talall are controlled by Atulya Ghosh. So they caD ~ "" " : ~ !f~'f .. '" (_1) oot touch them. ",1 a ~ ... ~ ~ ~ ~1 'f~ ~1f ~~ flli 'Iit-r.",,,,, 8 ~ , f~" ~ it ~ "" "": 111fT ~ ~ I' " t fit; ~ "')" f~'lfli "" '""~, f~~, ~ ~ t ~1 it ~ lit"" "" ~ m lIiT q: """ m'm' it ,~ ~ ~ ~ ~mili~~~ lit ~' r ~ ~.~~"'~~ t~ ~ ~' i 25 Oral Answers MAGHA 29, 189Q.(SAKA) Oral A'l5wtr.' 26 SHR.I JAGANATH RAO : I want notice. prolluction will 80 up and there will not be am not aware of it. any lag between demand and supply. SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH: What is the DR. RA NEN SEN: My queslion was extent of coking coal reserves in the leased whether in the last two or three years pro- areas of NCDC? What has been the produ- duction both in the public sector and privale ction in the public sector units in the country seclor is not up to the mark, and if so, in the last two or three years and has it what sleps Government propose to take to See shown an increase or decrease 0 Ihat it comes up to Ihe mark. SHRI JAGANATH RAO : As the House SHRI JAGANATH RAO: I C811110t is aware, NCDC came into existence only in understand what he means by 'nol up to the 1956. By then private owners had the areas mark'. There has been no deficit: there is leased to them. Production in public sector no want of coal for the steel plants and the collieries is being stepped up gradually. demand could be mel easily. SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : It is.behind the SHRI S. KUNDU: The Minister has private sector. said thaI he is asking the rrivate firms io produce more coking coal and he has fond hopes Ihat they will do In they SHRI JAGANATH RAO: The private so. case fail to do so, has he lOt any rlant to see owners having got the leases much earlier and t hat they produce? Is he contomplatin, to the NCDC having come into the field in 1956 pul them under certain regulations or to only, there is a lag. It is perhaps roughly two-thirds in the private sector and one-third delicence them? or slightly more in the public sector. SHRI JAGANATH RAO: That is a matter of future action. SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : Whether it has come late or earlier or IVhether it is t\\'o- B. G. Line From Samastlpur to thirds and ane-third, the point is this. There Darbhlnga may be 5 per cent increase in the public sector and 3-10 per cent increase in the private sector; we want to know the "6. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD percentage of increase in production, not the MANDAL: area of reserves. SHRIBHOGENDRAJHA: SHRI JAGANATH RAO: Percentage Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be also depends on the area. pleased to state : (a) whether there is a proposal for SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH: No, no ; he is laying a broad IIU" line hetween Sarnastipur misleading. and Darbhanaa on the North Eastern Railway; DR. RANEN SEN: In spite of the usertioo of the hon. Minister, is it not a (b) if so, the steps being contemplated fact that in the last two or three years to complete the project ; production, both in the public sector and in the private sector, of cooking coal, has not (e) whether there is any proposal to increaaed 7 If so, have Oovernment lOne extend the same facilities (broad .... UDC) into the reasons therefor ? up to Sit.marhi, N. E. Railway; and SHRI JAGANATH RAO : I have said in- (d) if so, when? creaae in produetion depends on oIftake, It is CJI~ that by 1973-1., rcqulrcmcats THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of cokinl coal would be to the tune of 31 MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS SHRI PARI· million lonnes and by lhan it il expected thai MAL GHOSH): (a) Yes, Sir. 27 Oral Allswers FEBRUARY 18. 1969 Oral Allswers 28 (b) aDd (cl EDgiDeeriDs and traffic: m 11ft i\lrr ~ ~ IfT'lr ~ ~ t. surveys are proposed to be under taken in 1969-70 for conversion of r~t '" ~ it ~ r "' l'~ ;;rre-T t I ~ the Samutipur-Raxaul metre puge section ~1Ii~~~~~t m~~ ./4 Darbhanp an41 Sitamarhi. The surveys '1ft f~ ~" will also be carried out for the alernative t m IIilf route via Muzaffarpur. f r"tn ~ lIW ""'T iii t flli iR ~ ~ ri~ IfiTli ~r ~ rritm I ~ ..". ~~ (d) Further consideration to the pro- ~ lflfl ! ~'f "",r ~f~ ~ ~~ ~t ~ ""'T posal for conversion of the Samastipur- 1f~ ~ ~ ~rff ~r ;hT'" ""') 'OIf1"I' it Raxaul M. G. section into B. G. will be m ai\'en after the surveys proposed to be carried ~ !flIT lI'lITT;;rr ~lfit flli f~ ~" out shortly are completed and the survey ~"'" III ~iell ! If.T IIinf ~ ~ ;;rrittTr ? reports and the relative merits and financial implications of the two alternative routes ~~r SHRI PARIMAL GHOSH: We have IJfT !fio ,"0 fll~ ~ ~ mt:" taken all these matters into consideration and accordinSly a survey has been instructed to be ;;r) ~~~~ ~ ;;rrit ~ , ~~~ ~ carried out. We are awaiting the survey ,,~fl'll ;:,-"'" ;r.rr .,-lit, ... ~it if ' ~ ~ report which is likely to be completed by 1969-70. ~m. "lIT l~r ., t r~ ~~r ~ lIT f r~it ~!f~r.. ~i ~ ~ Ifi ~'~r ~m ~ ~~~H lifT 111!'" snm Itw" : rn ~Jf fl~ ~~ m flli ~ ~ ~r l~ m~ I!iT WTo -.:rq ~ f~ : ~~ it ~!f fr.. IfiTlr ~ l!itit? ~ ~~ ;:,-) ~ ~" If>T ~r ~ !f;T WTo ~ ~~ q"Ift lf~ t I DR. SUSHI LA NA Y AR : How SOOD are Government aoina to come to a decision u ... m ~t.ft~~ orm- ~r ~ ~ it has been peadinll for wry 10DIL ? ~ ~ ~ ~ ri~ ~~J1f, ~e ~mm, ~~ ~ 'Irl l~ , ~f'l'lfr~r SHRI K. C. PANT: A st~DII III'OUp has been appointed to assist Government in f~ ~ ~~ m'1If ~r it ~~ ~fur ... coming to a decision in the matter of ~ ~.. r ~~ ~, fpi ... ~r ~'lI ~1ff'fr expansion of the steel industry in the Fourth ~ ~r rim:!)' ~lI ~it I and Fifth Plan periods. Therefore. we are awaitinll their report. SHRI THIRUMALA RAO : Is there any SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI : guarantee that this line will be laid after the Has the steering group consulted all the rapec- survey report is published, in view of the tive State Governments where the possibility experience of the public hitherto of several of locating the steel plant is there 1 If 10, survey reports having been shelved and left what has been the request of the Govern· unimplemented ? ment of Orissa in this repsd ? DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH: Actually. SHRI K. C. PANT: It is not really I would like this Parliament to see to it that necessary to consult all State Governments all the survey reports are implemented. because there have to be teehno-eeonomic advantages established which dictate the Setting up of Fifth Steel Plant location of these sites. ·8. DR. SUSHILA NAYAR : SHRI N. R. LASKAR : What is actually SHRI M. SUDARSANAM : holding up a decision-paucity or fundi or SHRI N. R. LASKAR : something else ? SHRI R. BARUA : SHRI K. C. PANT: As J mentioned. SHRI SEZHIYAN : the first thing is to be very clear about the SHRIK.SURYANARAYANA projections of demand. Then a proper luney DR. MAHADEVA PRASAD: has to be made of the likely location. After SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU that, a decision has to be taken. UDtil and unless we recoive the report of the steerin, SHRI R. K. AMIN : grouP. it is very diffteult for us to oorne to a decision. Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES A NO METALS be pleased to state : SHRI R. BARUA : Will the experience of Bokaro be taken note of in oonsiderinll the (a) whether any decision has since been question of settin, up the fifth plant' taken for the settinll up of the Fifth Steel Plant in the country ; SHRI K. C. PANT : Most certainly; Bokaro and other steel plants allO. (b) if so, whether the site has been selected; and SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA : May I know whether the expert oommittee baa (c) the financial implications thereof? visited Vizqapatam and other places In Andhra Pradesh ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THRI K. C. PANT: The Committee baa MINIS11lY OF STEEL AND HEAVY visited Vizq and other places allO. ENGINEERING (SHRI K. C. PANT). SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : fa it a fact (a) No. Sir. that both Andhra I'radeIh and Tamil NIeIu are wantint steel plant. in their rwpectJWI (b) and (c) : Do not arIIe. States... 31 Oral Allswer.< FEBRUARY 18, 1969 rVr;tten Answers AN HON. MEMBER: Mysore also. WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : ... but that Grant 01' Registration Certificates and because of the fight between the Congress lea- IndustrIal Llcenees to Films ders of the two States nothing has happened sofar? That is the first point. Secondly, is it a .7 SHRI SITARAM KESRI : Will the fact that the British collaborators some years Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- ago offered 67 million pounds sterling for the MENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS expansion of the Durgapur plant and that he pleased to refer to the reply, given to was shelved and, if so, what are the reasons Un starred Question No. 1638 on the 30 July, for its being shelved? 1968 and state : SHRI K. C. PANT: I have already (a) the procedure adopted in determining indicated what is holding up the taking of a fixed assets on the basis of invesment on final decision. There is no question of any Land building and machinery in 1964 for quarrel between the Congress leaders of purrx:se of licensing under the Industries different States. (Development and Regulation) Act, 1951 or granting certificates of Registration to the than MR. SPEAKER: Shri Amin. existing Industrial Uudertakings under the Act: SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU: Sir, my (b) "hether Government had issued any supplementary has not been answered. Notification during 1964 or prior to 1964 that such and such items would be taken into con- MR. SPEAKER: He has given reasons, sidration for ascertaining fixed assets; but you have given additional reasons. Therefore, it is all right. (c) if so, whether Government propose to lay a ~o ' of the said Notification on the SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : My second Table of the House; question relates to the expansion of the (d) whether investment on furniture and Durgapur steel plant. YOli were the Steel fittings, motor cars, scooters, tubewells, etc. Minister at that time. AI.o comes under the provisions of fixed assets; and SHRI K. C. PANT: !fhe insists, I will have to say that it does not arise, because (e) if not, the reasons there for this relates to the fifth steel plant. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE SHRI R. K. AMIN : May I know from AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. the hon. Minister, in "iew of the income A. AHMED): generation and the profitability of irrigation projects being higher than the basic invest- (a) to (e). A statement is laid on the ments in steel plants, and in view of the fact Table of the House. [Placed in library See that we have to sell our steel at a lower No. LT-7 1693] price abroad,-.. in this contcxt,-whether he Closure of Textile Mills will take into consideration the stoppage of .9 SHRI HARDA Y AL DEVGUN : Will thefiftb steel plant as well as the fourth, the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND taking into account the income generation SUPPLY be pleased to state : and the available profitability from the alternative projects in terms of irrigation, (a) whether it is a fact that number. of especially the Narmada irrigation? te~tlle mills have closed down; SHRI K. C. PANT: There is the question (b) if so, the number of textile mills of the iJltemal dcrmmd of steel; there is the closed durins the last one year; question of our earning foreilln exchange tluollllh export. These are t he balancing (c) the number of labourers thrown out factors which will ha\'e to be kept in mInd. of employment; 33 Writ/en Answers MAGHA 29. 1890 (SAKA) Wrillen Answers 34 (d) the steps taken by Government to BHAGAT): (a) to (e). The Kuala Government help these mills; and have submitted a detailed plan for reorganisation and development of coir industry in Ihe State. (e) the result thereof? The plan involves an expenditure of Rs. 13.4S crores as loans and Rs. 2.11 crores as grants. THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN TRADE The State Government have suggested that AND SUPPLY (SHRI B. R. BHAGAT) : the entire expenditure should be met by the (a) Yes, Sir. Central Government. The plan is under de- tailed examination in consultation with the concerned authori ties. (b) 72 cotton textile mills closed during the year 1968. 39 of these have reopened, while 33 were still lying Import of Tallo" closed. °11. SHRI J. B. SINGH: (c) About 31260 workers. SHRI SHRI GOPAL SABOO : (d) and (e). Eight mills have already Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE been investigated under Industries (Develop- AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: ment and Regulation) Act, and the reports are under examination. Eight mills are (a) The quantity of tallow imported currently under investigation and their cases during the last three years ; will be considered after reports of the investi- gation Committees are received. Cases of (b) whether it is a fact !hpt the consum- four mills are under litigation. The steps tion of tallow in the manufacture of soap to be taken in respect of the remaining 13 is less than what is imported; mills arc under examination in consultation with the State Government's concerned. (c) if so, the quantum of soap manufac- tured during the last three years; Colr Scheme in Kerala (d) whether it is also a fact that tallow °10. SHRJ C. K. CHAKRAPANI : is being used in the manufacture of vegetable SHRI P. P. ESTHOSE : ghee by some concerns; and Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE (e) if so, the steps Government propose AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : to take to stop the use of tallow in the manufacture of vegetable ghoe ? (a) whether the Government of Kerala have requested the Central Government to THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN take over the Coir Scheme as a Central sector TRADE AND SUPPL Y (SHRI B. R. Scheme; BHAGAT) : (a) and (c). A statement is laid on the Table of the Hause. (b) if so, the decision taken thereon; STATEMENT (c) whether it is a fact that the Kerala Government have requested the Centre to pro- I. Statement Showing the Quantity of Tallow vide RI. 13.38 crores for giving loans and Imported During the Last Three Years Rs. 212 lakhs for giving grants to the socie- lies; Year Quantity 2. Statemell/ Show;IIK Ihe Quall/ily of Soap Re-Export of Indian Goods by Nepal Manufactured in Ihe OrKmlised Scclor During Ihe Lasl Three Y cars °13. SHRI HIMATSINGKA : SHRI N. K. SOMANI: Year Quantity (in tonnes) Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: 1966 I,Sl,ooo (a) whether Government's attention has 1967 1,91,634 been drawn to the reported recent switch in the pattern of India's export trade that 1968 1,62,672 (Approx.) goods are!",erc being routed through Nepal in order to obtain the benefit of export (January-September) incentive of 60 pel' cent, and import entitlement ranging between 50 to 70 per .------~ - cent aHowed in that country to boost Nepal's export trade; (b) Tallow is used for the manufacture of not only soaps but also of metal polishes. fatty acids, packing and jointings, lubricating (b) whether it is a fact that a number greases, etc. and in the textile and leather of Indian exporters have already set up industries. their Office in the Nepal and have had influe- ntial Nepalese as partners for the said purpose; (d) Government is not aware of this. (c) if so, how far t hesc pract icC!; are (e) Does not arise. detrimental to India; and The Gardens In Assam (d) government's reaction thereto ~ °12. SHRI KAMESHWAR SINGH: THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI B. R. BHAGAT) : SHRI HEM BARUA : (a) Reports have been received by Govern- ment from time to time that some Indian Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE goods like jute, mica, oris ties and goat-skins are being exported to Nepal for diversion to AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: third countries, in order to gain bonus vouchers for exporters in Nepal. The bonus (a) Whether it is a fact that the Finance earned on such exports is reported to vary Minister of Assam has urged the Central from 40 per cent to 60 per cent. To the Government to take over the Tea gardens extent that Iher., is diversion of Indian in that state; and goods to third countries through Nepal, there is an element of loss of foreign exchange (b) if so, tbe reaction of Government to India. According to available information, thereto? some Indian parties have set up industries in Nepal in partnership with Nepalese Nationals, for manufacture of goods ~ on THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN imported raw materials. The complaints TRADE AND SUPPLY qrecd that the two Governments will conti- pcosramme durins the maximum period nue to take preventive measures against provided under the rules ? smuggling and deflection of trade. In order to check this malpractice, we have created THE MINISTR OF INDUSTRIAL additional mobile parties, 13 in Allahabad DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE Collectorate and 14 in the Patna Collectorate. AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. In the West Bengal Collectorate, 3 preventive AHMED) : (a) Durins the last four years (196S posts have been set up and necessary staff to 1968) 631 licences under the Industries has also been given to man these parties. (Development and Rcsulation) Act, 19S1, have been issued for substantial expansion Paper Pulp Factory in Assam of capacity of existing indstrial undertakings. Details of these licences are published in the °14. SHRI BEDABRATA BARUA: Weekly Bulletin of Industrial Licences, Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- Import Licences and Export Licences; Weekly LOPMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS Indian Trade Journal and the Monthly be plea!;Cd to stale : Journal of Industry and Trade. (b) The Industries (Development and (a) whether Ihe localion of a paper Regulation) Act, 19SI, docs not provide for pulp factory in Assam has been finalised; withdrawal of licences. If a licensee fails to establish or take effective steps for the (b) if so, the site which has been selected establishment of the Industrial Underta- for Ihe purpose; and king within the periods specified in the licence, or such period for which validity of (c) when the project is likely to be a licence may be exlended, the Government completcd ? may revoke the licence, after giving an opportunity to a licensee to state his case. Details of licences revoked are also published THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL in the above mentioned journals. DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. Prices of Cotten Supplied by U. A. R. AHMED) : (a) to (c) : The proposal is still recelvmg consideration for setting up a °16. SHRI BAL RAJ MADHOK: Pulp/Paper Mill in Assam. SHRI BISWANARA YAN SHASTRI: LIcences for Expansion Programme in Prhate SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHYAM : Sector SHRI R. K. SINHA: °7S. SHRI D. R. PARMAR: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE SHRI GADILINGANA GOWD : AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: SHRI DESAI: C. C. (a) whether it is a fact thftt the U. A. R. has increased the price of cotton exported to Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL India by 20 per cent; DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased tn state: (b) whether it is also a fact that this in- crease has not been made in case of cotton (a) The details of licences issued for the exported to the Western countries; expansion of capacity of existins industries in the private sector durins the last four (e) if so, the extra COlt for our im- years; and ports of cotton from the U. A. R.; (b) Whether these licences were with- (d) whether it is likely to aJrect the drawu for non-implemeDtation of expansion Indian cottoD textile industries advcncly; and 39 Writ/en Answers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrillel1 Answers 40 (e) if so, the measures contemplated in the collaboration agreements are being this direction; stringently scrutinised to eliminate export restrictions. THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI B. R. (b) Government is not aware of any such BHAGAT): (a) Accoding to available informa- instance. tion U. A. R. increased the opening prices of cotton of different varieties during the year (c) Does not arise. 1968-69 by 12.8% to 22.9%, compared to the opening prices of the last year. Precision Instrument Factory Project In Kerala (b) Increase in prices is reported to have been made uniformly for all countries. ·18 SHRI MANGALATHUMADAM: Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (c) Imports of U. A. R. cotton are still be pleased to state: in progress and the total amount of extra cost cannot be determined at this stage. (al whether there is a move from the Central Goveranment to drop the sheme or (d) Not likely. setting up of a Precision Instrument Factory Project in Kerala : (e) Docs not arise. (b) if so, (he details thereof; Foreign Collaboration Agreements (el whether Government have with- drawn the officers deputed in connection with °17, SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : the establishment of that Factory; and SHRI YASHPAL SINGH: (d) if so, the total number of officers Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL withdrawn and the reasons therefor? DEVELOPMEMT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE (a) the date from which the agreements AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. of foreign collaboration are being scrutinised A. AHMED) : (a) and (bl, As stated earlier, with a view to see that conditions, which a provisional decision has been taken to prevent export of goods produced in India, postpone the implementation of the Mecha- arc eliminated; nical Instruments plant at Palghat. (b) whether there are instances of any set Because of the drastic reduction in the of collaborators who might have abstained overall investment on industry coupled with from entering into collaboration as a result of the drop in the estimates of requirements of this attitude of Government; and instruments, Government reviewd the question of produclion in the two units of Instrumen- tation Limited at Kota, Rajasthan and (c) if so, the details thereof 7 Palghat, Keraia. With a view to ensuring the economic viability of the Kota unit, whieh THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL has since gone into production, Government DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE consider that it would be necessary to post- AND .COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. pone, for the present, the project at A. AHMED) : (a) Although it has always Palghal and take up at Kota with marlinal been Government's policy to secure as wide additional investment, the instruments plann- export franchise in collaboration agreements ed for the Pal,hat unit. This is urgently !IS possible, it is in more rcecnt yean that necessary as the range of instruments of the 41 Writ/en Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 (S.AKA) Writ/en All.lwers 42 two units are complementary to each (a) whether the newly constituted natio- other. nal Textile Corporation Cor sick textile mills has prepared any scheme for taking over the sick mills in different States; and A final decision on this issue and allied matters is yet to be taken by the Government. (b) if so, the main features thereoC? (c) and (d). Government have not with- drawn any offi~ ers deputed for the establish- THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN ment of the factory. Two Engineers who TRADE AND SUPPL Y (SHRI B. R. were on deputation to this Project from the BHAGAT) : (a) No, Sir. State Government have, at their own request, reverted to their parent department on expiry (b) Does not arise. of their deputation period. Crack in Brahmaputra Bridge at Gaubatl °19. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY: 021. '1' "'q ~~, SHRI K. HALDER: '~ 1~' : DR. RANEN SEN : 'fIl'T ~, WTiI' ~ ~ irf ll Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be ~ ~ qcrR 'fir ,,!'IT 'tii:iT f'fi : please to state : (lfi) 'fIl'T ~ ~~ fit; ~~ ~ (a) whether it is a fact that a crack has ~ l1Tfm 'fi) ~ ~ ~ ~ f'flfiT- been detected in one of the pillars of the Brahmaputra Bridge at Gauhati; <'f.T 'fir ~f f ~ ~cft ; (b) whether the Bridge is likely to be (/If) 'fll'T ~ m ~ ~ f;r; ~ it closed to traffic due to the crack; ~ 'fir mIT EstabUshment of new Paper Mm. the Import Deposit Scheme a number of items were exempted by the Government of U. K. ·22. SHRI P. VISWAMBHARAN : from the purview of the Scheme. Since then no further items have been added to the Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL exemption list. Our efforts to secure exem- DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY ption of additional items of interest to us AFFAIRS be pleased to state: have not been successful. (a) whether a team cOllsisting of experts from the United Nations and Government (c) A list of items which are exempt of India have conducted a survey regarding from the operation of the Import Deposit establishment of new paper mills in India; Scheme is laid on the Table of the Sabha. and [Plal'elf ill LihrarY.l'ee No. Lt-8 '69] (b) if so, the number of new mills re- commended by the team and the places (d) It is too early to isolate and esti- where the new mills would be located? mate quantitatively the precise effect of the Import Deposit Scheme on our exports to U. K. Every effort is being made to ensure THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL that in consequence Indian exports to the DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE United Kingdom do not suffer any material AND COMPANY AEFAIRS (SHRI F. A. injury. AHMED) : (a) No, Sir. (b) Does not arise. Indian Goods Er.cmpted by Britain from Import Deposit e ~me ·24. -n IQ'!\'IS f.~m lfnfil'lft : q, m'lf f~~ tit~m ' : ·23. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA : ,~ JI' ~ l'f SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN LAL : SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI: SHRI RAM GOPAL SHALWALE : !flfT .'f~ 8Q11m: l'!111 ,r~ """ lfll: iHfR lfi'T FIT lfi'~ f'f. : Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: ('f.) 'flfl lfll: I'f~ ~ Ai ~ 1965 it !f¥J 'f.T e~ ~ ~ 'f f. 26,000 ~ 'l'f""" (a) whether it is a fact that Britain has agreed to exempt some of our lOO ~ ft IIn ~ (I," i\"i'f "'" ('i' Calendar year 1968 indicates an increase of .0 about 6.58 million tonnes or 4.2 per cent ~ If~iiln Uo ( 1829 it 0 C'f 'foT t~ r r f'fi!l'T If!l'T ~ I (c) Goods earnings during the Calendar year 1968 increased by Rs. 43 crores or 8.6 ~ ~ rr ~ ~ ~ iii!' if 'lefT'f 'H<'T 'foT per cent over the previous year. This increase ~ ~ 'AI'mr 'fV fif.!l'T ~ I If~ 'liT ~1f was partly due to additional traffic and 'WH ~ f'fllf'f it flfu Railway Good. Traffic (iv) Super Express Goods trains are being run on important trunk routes to provide expeditious ·25. SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: movement of goods traffic. SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACHWAI : (v) Containerised service has been Will the Mini.ter of RAILWAYS be introduced between selected termi- plea.cd to state : nals. (a) whether it is a fact that the goods Export of H. S. L. RaIl. to Iran traffic on Railways has increased tremendous- ly during the last year ; ·26. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : SHRI Y. A. PRASAD: (b) if .0, the details thereof; SHRI RAMA CHANDRA VEERAPPA : Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES (c) how much income has increased on this account ; and AND METALS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) Whether a final decision on the Small MINISTRY OF STEEL AND ENGINE- Car project has been taken; ERING (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). A Letter of Credit for 10 per (b) if so, the details thereof; cent of the contract value has been established by the Iran Organisation. Trial (e) Whether Government have received rolling of the rail section has been under- requests form the State Government seeking taken in Bhilai Steel Plant. No shipment permission to set up Small Car Units in their has so far taken place against this contract. states; Talcber-Blmlagarh Ran Link (d) if so, the details thereOf; and '27. SHRI S. KUNDU : (e) Government's decision in thb SHRI P. K. DEO : matter '! SHRI D. N. DEB: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be AHMED) : (a) Not yet, Sir. plcaaed to state : (b) Does not arise. (a) whether it is a fact that Government have decided to conduct a technical and (c) and (d). The Government of Mysore economic survey of Talcher-Bimlagarh rail has sponsored a proposal for setting up of a link in Orissa ; project for the mJnufacture of Cars in colla- boration with a Japanese firm. (b) whether Government have also de- cided to start the construction of the said (e) The proposal of the Mysore Govern- rail line from 1971-72; and ment will be considered, along with other similar proposals, after a decision is taken on (e) if not, the reasons therefor? the inclusion of the Small Car project in the Fourth Five-Year Plan. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. Exemption of Indian Textile Exports RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (a) to (c). from Britalos ImportD eposlt Scbeme Preliminary Engineering and Traffic Surveys are proposed to be undertaken in 1969-70 for the Taleher-Bimlagarh rail link. A decision '29. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY: regarding to construction of the line can be SHRI BIBHUT! MISHRA : taken only after the surveys are completed SHRI P. N. SOLANKI : and the results thereof known. SHRI M. L. SONDHI : SHRIC. JANARDHANAN: Small Car Project SHRI JAGESHWAR Y ADA V : SHRI PRAKASHVIR SHASTRI: ·28. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES : SHRI J. MOHAMMAD IMAM: SHRI MRITYUNJA Y PRASAD: SHRI RAM AVT AR SHARMA: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: SHRI YAJNA DATI SHARMA: SHRI D. AMAT : (8) Whether the Government of U. K. SHRI S. R. DAMANI : has turned down India's plea for cxcmptinl ill textile exports to that country from the im- port doposit scheme; Will the Minbter of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY (b) if so, the ~tioD ot Go_1 AFFRIRS III plcuod to state: thereto; 49 Writ/en Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 ~ Writ/en Answers (c) whether the U. K. Governl1lCnt hIlS qm", anqR (.1.0 been told to ask Hong Kong administration ft'" P "'" ~ ~ to modify customs tariffs; '(To (e) the extent to which India's exports (llf) mtrrf;pf ~ rl iIlf~ ~ OIlTTrn of textiles and ot ~r goods to that country are likely to suffer as a result of this scheme; qcTtrT;;rT urr ~ ~ !:!f Iflftr lJ e~ and llrf~ ~ r"l'll; mtrrPrcr ~ rl "'T ~ tr ~ 10 srf'rocr ~ if~ ~ f.;rlfit (f) the further steps Governmet propo5e m",,,, i!t ml{- to take in this connection '? 'f.Tq -:;:l;qTif 'f.T "''"'fT I'fr"f i! ~ ~ I THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN Export of Manganese Ore to north Korea TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI B. R. BHAGAT); (a) Yes, Sir. I. SHRI Y AJNA DATT SHARMA : (b) The decision of the British Govern- Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE men has come as a disappointment to as. AND SUPPLY be pleased to state; (e) and (d). The mailer is uuder discus-- (a) whether it has been decided to allow sion with the Government of U. K. the export of Manganese ore to North Korea; and (e) It is too early to isolate and estimate quantitatively the precise effect of the Import (b) if so, the quantity of Mansancse Deposit Scheme on our Exports to U. K. ore likely to be exported, the price charaed Every efiort is being made to ensllre that in for the same; and consequence Indian exports to the United Kingdom do not suffer any material injury. (c) how this price compares in the world market The Reserve Bank of India has extended the timelimit for repatriation of SO per cent THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of the invoice value of exports to the U. K. MINISTR Y OF FOREIGN TRADE AND from the usual 6 months to 8 months. It is SUPPL Y (SHRI RAM SEWAK) : expected that as a result Indian exporters will be able to meet competition offered by exporters of third countries . (a) Yes, Sir. Iff"", (b) and (e). Contracts have yet to be ..m ill,.,. '" "'Ifftf concluded ·30. ~ ~r ~ : ~ .~ ..1m ~ P wi'lll ~ If(ff.t '1ft Export/Import Ucences to SllrJ KantUaJ MorarJl DeDI "'" rn f~ ~ 'IIR(f it lI1.n: ~ t ~ ill 2. SHRI BABURAO PATEL: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND ~ ~ ~ ill 2;;;rl ill !IIl1mf ~ srf~ SUPPLY be pleased to state : If1f f~ fmft 1JIT '" ~ t; m <8> the number and value of Import or (Iir) ~ ~111li ~ it ~ ~ ill export Iiccnca arantcd 10 Shri Kutilal ~~~""~~t Monrai Dtai or bis DOIIIiu. or IIrma for ~I ritt~n Anl'werl' BEBRUAR Y 18, 1969 Wrillen Answers 52 importing or exporting cut or rough THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL diamonds during the last ten years, DEVELOPMENTlNTERNAL TRADE AND ycarwise; COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. AHMED) : (a) and (b), A copy of the (b) The import permits or licences gran- Report of the Pande Committee together with ted to Shri Kantilal Morarji Desai or his Government Resolution thereon containing nominess or firms to import motor cars and the decisions of Government on the various the number, value and make of cars imported recommendations made in the Report was by him during the last te n years; and laid on the Table of the Sabha on 16-2-1968. (c) the total value of various import (c) and (d), The various recommendations licences given to Shri Kantilal Morarji Desai made by the Committee were communicated and his firms during the last 12 years, to the manufacturers for compliance. annually, purpose-wise 7 Statutory directives, under section 16 of the Industries (D & R) Act, 1951, were also issued to the Car manufacturers, in respect THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of the more important recommendations of MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND the Committee to ensure compliance. Non SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM compliance with the directi\'es, issued under SEWAK :(a) to (c) : Details of all import Section 16 of the Industries (De\'elopment and export licences issued are published in the and Regulation) Act, 1951 is punishable "Weekly Bulletin of Industrial Licences, under the provisions of Section 24 of the and Export Licences", copies of which arc said Act which also stipulates the penalties available in the Parliament Library. therefor. Recommendation of the Committee on (e) and (I'). A team of Technical Experts Quality of Motor Cars apppointed by Government is visiting the plants of the three car manufacturers with a ·3. SHRI BABURAO PATEL: Will the view 10 assisting and advising the latter in Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT strengthening their internal inspection AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to organisation. This team will suggest to state: Government the kind of external inspection organisation that should be sct up to supple- (a) The Salient features of the Report sub- ment the internal arrangements of the manu- mitted by the special Committee appointed facturers and how they can be made to to investigate the deteriorating quality of function effectively. Steps to set up a motor cars manufactured in the country; Technical Audit Cell for the industry will also be taken on receipt of the report of the (b) the number and nature of recommen- team. dations accepted by Go\,ernment; Firemen In Sealdab DIYlslon of Eastern (c) the precise steps taken by Government Railway to implement the recommendations at the manufacturing end ; 4. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : Will the Minister of RALWA YS be pleased to state : (d) the nature and amount of penalties provided in the event of car manufacturers . not sincerely implementinll the recommenda- (a) the number of Firemen in the Sealdah tions ; Division of the Eastern Railway who have been suspended for participatinll in the token strike on the 19th September, 1968; (e) the nature of check or inspection provided to see that the recommendations have been carried out ; and (b) The number out of them who have to suffer the consequences of 'break in . (f) if Dot, the reisoDs therefor, service; Writ/ell Allswer. MAGHA 29, 1 ~ Wrillell AflSlVtrs (e) The number of Firemen who have Underground Bridge Mar Vlramgam been affected by the 'pay cut' order of Government; and 6. SHRI S. M. SOLANKI : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (d) the number of cases in which passes and PTO leave has been stopped? (a) whether Government are aware that Viramgam is the entrance of metre gaUlle THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS and broad gauge lines and due to that the (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH: (a) and crossing gate is to be kept closed for hours (b). One Fireman was placed under together and as a result, the buses, cars and suspension; he has been put back to duty, trucks have to stand there for unlimited treating his absence on 19-9-1968 as break time; in service. (b) if so, whether Governmenl propose (e) Seven induding the one employee to construct an underllround bridge tbere; mentioned above. and (d) In respect of all the seven, passes, (e) if not, the reasons therefor PTOs. and leave arc admissible in accordance with the scale for fresh entrants to service. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (al Unavoidable Lleen«s for New Industries In Gujarat detenlion to road traffic has occurred occasionally. 5. SHRI S. M. SOLANKI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- (b) and (c). Under the extanl rules the MENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be cOSI of replacemenl of any level crofiSing pleased to state : by road over.'under bridie is 10 be shared between Ihe Railway and the Road autho- (a) the number of applications received rity. Broadly, under the rules now in from Gujarat State for licences for the force SO':\, of the cost of road over; under setting up of new industries during 1968; bridge for a 24 fl. wido roadway Ilnd its approaches (excluding cost of land) is borne (b) how many of these applications were by the Railways and the balance SO% as granted licences and for what industries; well as the cost of acquisition of any land and required for approaches is borne by the road authority. While there is no proposal (c) how many of them were from Ahme- for an uoderbridlle, a proposal for replace- dabad ? ment of level crossing No. 41 (A) by a road overbridle was submitted by the Railway to the tat~ Goveenm:nl in 1966 who THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL referred the matter to the local Municipality. DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE The Municipalily has not yel agreed to bear AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. their share of cosi. As soon as the Muni- AHMED) : (a) 42, Sir. In four other applica- cipality agrees 10 ~ar their .hare of cost, tions besides certain other States, Gujaeat was the Railways on their part would take suIta- also mentioned a. K propoaed location. ble action for the replacement of the level crossing by a road overbridae and to carry (b) In one case a licence has ~n out their share of work promptly. aranted for Koyali, Baroda, for the manufa- cture of Di Methyl TerphthaJate (DMT), Ortho Xylene and Mixed Xylene. ,,) -to fffo Iflfr ~ 11'," (c) Out of the applications reIleived ~ .0 r.., : were for Ahmedabad. 111 flr;y 'lIT PIT Ifi~i't f1r; : :£ld .IillIs .l.!II ~.u.. (.!II) ! .l.!II~! !~~~~ ~ ~ .l.!II l~J t Jhjr (.!II) : .!IIj l!t.!ll .Ih.!i ~ ~ tit t~~ »jI ~ :l1bUII ~~. : .!IIj l!~ l.b!& ~ ~ b .lb. : ~ oMj oJa 0,. U" '6 t~ ~ Jhjr : ~ oMj •••,. 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Ibl< lill ~ I ~ l.bl.!i!ft II£. l.l!.!i!j Lil!.,Ej 'lhl.!i! rnHeJlS .lJ\,..IllS l.!ll.I!.E. ~ m.t:lh£. .l!.Rl.J:t l~~ :L.b Wlllll .!I! . ..~,li .!I!lt~ ~l :L\li .I!.R l ~~ Jl!:L I1£. .Ib.!i!j .I!~ 1,!tli !~ !;! ~ll! .!@ ~ ~ H>.ji ~ llili .Ibl:!j :L.!II ~ ~I.l Rll 9~ (:re<: I~ it FI<: ~I flri~ f1' (c) During 1967 the buyers in the U.S.A. :a-mr purchased all goods manufactured in the ~I ~ f~ I1lIT ~ ; factory. During 1968, the orders placed by the U. S. firm were not to the full extent (Ill") lff~ ~t, crT 'tln ~ 'fT f'f'i{T\ indicated in the contract. ~ f'n~~ ~ '~1 &T'l(" if ~~ ~ ~~! Completion of Bollaro Steel Project :a-mr 'tiT 1C~ rn ~r ~ f1'f~ '3'« ~ ' ' f f1r~ fcr f ~ ~ 'fT «t ; 11. SHRI NAMBIAR : SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN : lff~ ~t, ('l") crT 'i{'!el q''i{lf.ffq- IIlOf'IT SHRI N. K. SANGHI : if fif Cf~ ~ f'f« SI'fT<: iI; ~~I :roTlJr SHRI BHAGABAN DAS : 'II 1C'lTq"fT ~I orr~1 ~ ~ f"f'Z flRf'IT SHRI GANESH GHOSH: "l';r ~rci~ I' f~1f 'l"1fT ~ ; ~n SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO : SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : SHRI CHENGALRAYA NAIDU : SHRI S. M. BENERJEE : SHRI A. SREEDHARAN : SHRIGEORGEFERNANDES: ••1m; 11l'1If ~ !I'," 'if!'! Q'll1\'f1i if DR. KARNI SINGH: ~ 'lf ~~~ ~ ~~ : ~ ~ (o..ft SHRI HIMATSINGKA : (1lI"). " r~n t o;'t.'lI' 't.T "TT ,~t ~ ~n SHRI P. C. ADICHAN : 'l ~ll' << (c) whether it is a fact that the coUabora- (b) The value of exports upto December, (b) The reIIOn i. the dlffil:ully In 1968 is RI. 36,41,112/-. manufacture of indipaolll equipment and Wriltrn Answrr., FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrilten Answers 60 machInery within the time envisaged Shortage of Truck/Bus Tyres and Tubes earlier. 13. SHRI NAMBIAR : (c) According to present indications, SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : the first blast furnace is likely to be commi- ssioned by March, 1971 and the entire SHRI K. RAMAN! : project (First Phaze) is likely to be completed SHRI UMANATH : by the middle of 1972. SHRI M. N. REDDY: SHRI VISHWANATH PANDEY: Ban on Import of X-Ray HIm. SHRI D. N. PATODIA : SHRI RAMACHANDRA VEE RAPPA : 12. SHRI NAMBIAR : SHRI K. RAMANI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL SHRIMATI SUSEELA GOPALAN : DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE (a) whether it b a fact that there is a AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: shortage of truck bus tyres and tubes throughout the country; (a) whether it is a fact that Government Itave banned the import of X-ray films: (b) if so, the steps taken by Government to meet the shortage; (b) if so, the reasons therefor: (e) whether it is also a fact that due to (c) whether it is a fact that the hospitals the shortage the dealers arc .ellina tyres in and private clinics are not able to meet black market; and their needs as a result of this ban; (d) if so, the steps taken by Govern- (d) if so. the steps Government propose ment to stop the black market in tyres ? to take to meet the situation; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL (e) whether the Hindustan Photo Films DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL TRADE Manufacturing Company at Octacamund AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. can meet the demand in full; and AHMED): (a) shortage of particular sizes of truck/bus tyres has been brought to the (f) if not, the reasons therefor? notice of Government. SHRI DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) Government have taken the follow- MINISTR Y OF FOREIGN TRADE AND ing steps to meet the shortage of tyres: SUPPL Y (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM SEWAK) : (a) No. Sir. (i) The various automobile tyres manufacturers have been advised to (b) to (d). Do not arise. step up the production of automo- bile tyres, pasticularly of categories which are in short supply. For (e) and (f) : M:s. Hindustan Photo this purpose, Government are al"" Films Manufacturing Company started assisting the manufactures to import production of X-Ray Films in 1968 only the requisite moulds and other and arc not yet in a position to meet the balancing equipment. full demand of the country. Steps are, ha_, beina taken to meet the full demaDd . h,digenously by 1969-70. (ii) Government have alia permitted 61 Written Answer., MAGHA 29, 1890 ~ Wrltte" A"swers 62 some vehicle manufactures to im- of HSL' laid on the table of the House on port 14000 truck t yres. 5. 4. 1968. There are various measures under examination with a view to removing (iii) Government are also taking steps or minimising these handicaps. No final to establish addilional capacity for decisions have yet been taken. the manufacture of automobile tyres. (d) The amount of interest paid by HSL for the year 1967-68 was Rs. 291.7 million. (c) Complaints have been received about over-charging of prices in respect of truck! Loss Suffered by Hindustan Zinc Limited bus tyres. 15. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : Will the (d) Truck Bus tyres and tubes have been Minisler of STEEL, MINES AND METALS declared as "essenlial commodily" under be pleased to state: the Essential Commodilies Acl to enable Ihe Stale Governmenl; local Administrations (a) the amount of loss which the to regulate Ihe acquisition and distribulion Hindustan Zinc Ltd. suffered since its in- of such tyres so that the requirements arc ception on account of irregularities, thefts, adequalely mel. stock shortages and fires; Writing off Capital of Steel Plants (b) whelher the matters were looked into and, if so, Ihe result thereof; and 14. SHRI NAMBIAR : (e) lhe sleps taken by Government to SHRI BHAGABAN DAS find out the draw backs and to brina about SHRI MOHAMMAD ISMAIL: improvements in its working? SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : SHRI D. N. PATODIA : THE MINISTER OF PETRO CHMICALS SHRI SURENDRANATH DWIVEDY AND MINES AND METALS (DR. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : TRIG UNA SEN) : (a) to (c). The informa- SHRI K. LAKKAPPA tion is being collecled and will be laid on the Table of the House. Will the Minisler of STEEL, MINES Director. Small Indulitrlfl Services Imtl- AND METALS be rleased 10 slale lute, Trlehur (a) whelher his Minislry is considering a plan to wrile off earital block of public 16. SHRI E. K. NAYANAR seclor sleel plants: SHRIC. K. CHAKRAPANI SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : (b) if so, the reasons therefor; SHRI K. ANIRUDHAN : (c) how the plan is proposed to be im- Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL plemented; and DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY A FFAJRS be pleased to stale (d) the amount of interest on capital payable by the public sector steel plants? (a) whether any charses of miSUIC of official power .pinst Director, Small InduI- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tries Service Institute, Trichur (Kerala) MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY have been brought to the notice of Govern- ENGINEERING (SHRI K. c. PANT): ment ; (a) to (c). some of the basic handicaps under which Hindustan Steel is functionin, (b) if 50, whether any enquiry has been were listed out in a pamphlet 'Performance conducted ; and 63 Writ/en Answers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Writ/en Answers 64 (e) if not, the reasons therefor 7 ('Of) lff;:o ~t, (fT ;;;f ~"'lf ~ ~ IflfT ~ f~ ~ ~. f~if ~ ? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. "'a)fiR; ~", ,"~mr 1q1'rn ~ AHMED) : (a) Certain allegations of misuse P'mf-m1f'llT (-n ~ "'''~~ : of official power apinst the Director, small ~"' ~~ 'fif ;;rr ~r Industries Service Institute, Trichur had been ("') i'l' ('Of). published in the 14th October, 1968 issue of ~ q lf~!J "'I' ~ qc-;;r tn: ~ 'fi~ ;:or a Malayalam newspaper. These were brough t mif'Tr I to the notice of the Development Commissi- oner, Small Scale Industries by the Director himself, who explained the position in respect Plan for Manufacture of Small Car of each alleption, immediately on seeing the charges in the newspaper. 18. SHRI DEVEN SEN: SHRI D. R. PARMAR: (b) No. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA : SHRI P. N. SOLANKI : (c) It was not considered necessary to conduct any enquiry, since the Director had SHRI R. K. AMIN : clarified his position in respect of each alle- SHRI RAMCHANDRA J. AMIN : plion and his explanation was found satis- factory. SHRI KIKAR SINGH: SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Wi1l the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY 17. "1T ~~ iIr.I" : 'flIT "',,~ AFFAIRS be pleased to stale: t ,~ "'" ~~ m ~ lf~ ~ 'fif FIT 'fi'{it f", : (a) whether it is a fact that some of the Industrialists of Gujarat or Bombay- Maharashtra have submitted a plan on small ('fi) ;;'1' If1'Ilf'l'"lfT if; 'l'T1f 'flfT ~ f.,.'1'~ car which could be manufactured at a lower ~ ~~ ~'f ~ ~ 'f>1:q"'I'T, ~ price ; ~!J~ ~ ,,~, ilHf~ f~ f1f~ ~f .r (b) if so, the broad details thereof; ~~.,., iI~ if ~ lf~ if 26 <'fR'f and ~~~~f~if~~~~ ; (c) Government's decision thereon? (IOf) ~ fli ~1i if .,..,.~ ~.,.~ (f'fT ~~ it fm ~ '1 ~ ~ THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE (IT) IflfT ;;q"ilfli ~ if f~ AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. AHMED) : (a) Yes. Four schemes, one from fimT'T ~ if 'If'T '~ ~ t IIf'm Gujarat and three from Maharashtra have ~ ~t ~ beeD received. 15' "'rirrm A"swrrs MAGHA 29, 1890 (.s'AKA) rl"~" ,,~rs 1515 (b) The details of the schemes are given below : S. No. Name of the Foreign Make of Ca ~cit Selling price in Party collab- the car & of plant rupees of the orator, engine per proposed car if any capacity lIIIDum (exclusive of taxes) 2 4 15 1. M!s. Manu- Engine 600-8OOcc 25,000 7,000 (ex-factoO') bhai H. Thakkar, to be 2-4 cars on ~ to be paid Baroda (Gujarat) designed cylinder air double by customer. by M.'S. cooled shift Lepage of Belgium 2. Shri S. D. Kul- Nil Meera minicar 6000 6000 ex-factory kami Inchhalkaranji, 2 cylinder 6615' to be paid by Distt. Kolhapur water customer. (Maharashtra) cooled 3. M,' s. Associa ted BMW BMW Gla. 100000 Not indicated Corporation of West Ger- 700cc Industries (India) many Private Limited, Bombay 4. Mis. Premier Fiat SPA Fiat 600D 24,000 9006 ex-factOO' Automobiles Ltd., Turin, 767a; 9907 Payable by Bombay Italy. 4 cylinder the CUltomer water cooled (c) These proposals, along with other (a) whether Government's attention ha, similar proposals, are under consideration of been drawn to the recent newspaper report Government. according to which the Chief Minister of Oujarat is stated to have said that some of Electrification or Rallway LInes In Gujarat the Railway lines In Oujarat will be electrilled in the near future ; 19. SHill DEVEN SEN: SHill D. R. PARMAR : (b) if so, the detail' of luch railway liD. ; SHRI ONKAR LAL BER WA : and SHIll P. N. SOLANKI : SHRI R. K. AMIN : (e) Whoa the work Is IIUIy to be c0mp- SHRI RAMCHANDRA J. AMIN : leted? SHill KIIlKAR SINGH : SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: THE MINISTER OF RAILWA VS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINOH) : (a) Vea. Will the Mllrilter of RAILWAVS be pIeued to state ; (b) OaIy Virar-Sabumati lIOClioo (RDute 67 Written Answers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 WriT/en Answers 68 Km. 442) of the Western Railway, of which HInd Gal ..nlslnll and Engineering Co. a certain prot ion falls in the Gujarat State, (P)Ltd. is being electrified on 25 KV AC system in the IVth Five Year Plan. 22. SHRI SITARAM KESRI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (c) The scheme has already been approved AND COMPANY AFFAIRS he pleased to by the Ministry of Railways. Tenders ror refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question supply and erection of overhead equipment No. 5938 on the 27th August. 1968 and etc. have been invited and orders are expected state: to he placed shortly. The actual field work for electrification of the section is expected to (a) whether it is a ract that the Hind commence shortly. Civil Engineering and Galvanising and Engineering Co. (1') Ltd. other ancillary works are already in progress. have filed a writ petition in Calcutta High The work is expected to be completed some- Court and obained an ex-parte injunction res- time during 1972. training the joint Plant Committee not to adjust the quantity or 18 Gauge Steel Sheets Reserves or Diamond In Andhra Pradesh which they had received in excess of their assessed capacity in 1966-67; 21. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: (b) whether applications have been filed SHRI ESWARA REDDY: by the Director-General, Technical Develop- ment and joint plant Committee in the DR. RANEN SEN Calcutta High Court ror vacation or the in- SHRI C. JANARDHANAN junction; Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES (e) ir so. the main grounds taken in the AND METALS be pleased to state: applications: and (a) whether any steps have been taken so (d) ir not, the rcailOns for the delay? far to explore the Cuddapah formation in Andhra Pradesh to find out diamond in the THE MINISTER OF INDSTRIAL area; and DEVELOPMENT. INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS SHRI F. A. (b) if so, the progress made so far in this AHMED) : (a) Yes. Sir. regard? (b) to (d). The position is heing ascer- THE MINISTER OF PETRO-CHE- tained and the information will be placed on MICAL AND MINES AND METALS the table of the House. (DR. TRIGUNA SEN) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. In Cuddapah formation diamonds Allotment or Foreign Exchange to Imall were found to occur in the Banganapalle Scale Industries Conalomerate horizon. Detailed work on this was intitiated in the field season SHRI VALMIKI CHOUDHARY: 1967-68. Two separate potential coniliomerate Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- belts of Kurnool district, Andhra Pradesh LOMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS were mapped, studied and the old diamond he pleased to state : workinp examined. Further detailed work on Banpnapalle conslomerates is proposed to be (a> whether GoYemment have taken any undertaken durina the field season prosramme decision to grant hiahe r allotment of founds of 1968-69, which includes datailed mappina in foreign exchange to small Scale Industries of 100 sq. km. area, exploratory pittinll. aditt- for importin, raw material and machinery; ina and collection of bulk samples of 200 ton- and nes each for rocovery test. The Manimadullu area is Intended to be taken up for the (b) if 10. the decision taken ill tbis purpotC_ reprd ? 69 Wrlrten Answers MAGHA 29. 1890 (SAKAl Wrillen Answers 70 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Reorpnlsatlon of Hlndustan Steel Ltd. DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. 25. DR. SUSHlLA NAY AR ; AHMED) : (a) and (b). The presenl policy of Ihe Governmenl of India in regard 10 require- SHRI D. AMAT ; ments of foreign exchange is need based in so SHRI G. C. NAIK : far as priority induslries are concerned. These SHRI K. LAKKAPPA industries are getting their full requirements SHRI R. K. AMIN : of imported raw materials. componenls and spare paris. The non priority industries get Iheir Will Ihe Minisler of STEEL, MINES requirements ba'ed un their las I year's licence. New unils bolh in priorily and non-priorily AND METALS be pleased 10 Siaele ; sectors, are given Ikence to the extent of 26 ''., of Ihe value of Iheir inslalled moehiner), (a) Whether Ihere is any proposal under or s.~ . '-whichever is less. However, eonsideralion of Governmenl 10 reorpnise priorily inuslries arc enlitled 10 repeat licence the Hinduslan Sleel Ltd. and on Ihe hasis of performance. (b) if so. the details thereof? Exporl Of Colton \" am THE MINISTER OF STI;EL AND HEAVY ENGINEERING (SHRI C. M. 14. SHRI SITARAM KESRI : Will Ihe POONACHA) ; (a) and (b) A Schem of re- Minisler of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUP- organisation of the management structure of PL Y be pleased 10 Slale: Hinduslan Sleel Limited, was announced by Ihe Minisler for Sleel, Mines & Metals in hi. (al Ihe quanlily of colton yarn ..por- slatemenl laid on the Table of Ihe House ted during the years 1967-68 and 1968-69; on the 20lh March. 1968. (b) the 10lal foreign exchange earned Export of Iron Oft to Japan in each year; and 26. SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN (c) the countries to which it was expo· SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : rted ? SHRI K. M. KAUSHIK SHRI S. P. RAMAMOORTHY ; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI D. N. DEB; MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM Will Ihe Minister of FOREIGN TRADE SEWAK) : (a) and (b). The quanlily and AND SUPPY be pleased 10 ,tale; value of collon yarn exporled during Ihe )'ear 1967-68 and 1968-69 (uplo Oclober 1968) arc 8S under:- 1967-68 10.282 7.63 (el the Itepl propolC'd to be taken '" 1968-69 (uplo Oct.68l 12.496 8.21 Government in thil reprd ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MI- (c) A ltatcment is laid OD the table of tile NISTRY OF FOREIGN TIlADE AND SUP- House [Pl«ed I, Library S« No. LT-9i69j. PLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM SEWAK): 71 Written Answers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Written Answers 72 (a) Steel output in Japan is expected Export, Defence, Communications, etc. etc. to increase in tbe coming years, though on the basis of sponsorina by various sponsor- the planned expansion in the steel produ- ing authorities. ction capacity is likely to slow down. Joint Collaboration Ventures In Forelllll (b) Having regard to Japan's steel Countries. production programmes, no significant change in the Indian exports of iron ore to Japan is anticipated. 28. SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN : SHRI CHANGALRAYA NAlDU : (c) Docs not arise. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : SHRI NARENDRA SINGH MAHlDA : Supply of Scarce Categories of Steel. SHRI C. MUTHUSAMI : SHRI P. N. SOLANKI: 27. SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN : SHRI D. R. PARMAR: SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : SHRI J. MOHAMED IMAM SHRI C. MUTHUSAMI: SHRI SITARAM KESRI : SHRI P. N. SOLANKI : SHRI C. C. DESAI: SHRI D. R. PARMAR: SHRI MEETHA LAL MEENA : SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : SHRI P. K. DEO : SHRI J. MOHAMAD IMAM SHRI D. N. DEU : SHRI CHENGALRA Y A NAlDU : SHRI SITARAM KESRI : Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE SHRI C. C. DESAI : AND SUPPY be pleased to state: Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES (a) the number of joint collaboration AND METALS be pleased to state: ,cntures in foreign countries approved by Government so far ; (a) whether it is a fact that there has been a revision in the procedure for the allo- (b) the countries for which these jonit cation of priority for supply of scarce cate- ventures have been approved; anries of Steel; and (c) the products covered under these (b) if so, the salient features thereof? ventures ; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the joint ventures which have since MINISTRY OF STEEL '" HEAVY started operation, giving the names of the ENGINEERING (SHRI K. c. PANT): countries; (a) Yoa, Sir. (e> the auide-Iines followed by Govern- (b) 10% of the total availability of ment in approving these ventures; and scarce cateaories of stccl has been reserved for clearance of backlOS of old orders pendina (f) the total foreian exchanae eaminp with producers, in the chronological orders of bookins. Another 10% has been remarked consequent on the functionin. of these ven- tures outside India? for despad! to producers' stockyards, so that the requirelJlCllts of Government Departments, Public Undcrtakinp, Small-Scale users, etc., THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE For less than a wqon load, could be met MINISTRY OF FOR.EIGN TR.ADE AND without d1l11culty. The remaininll 80% of SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM the total avaU.bility of scarce cateaories is SEWAK): (a) to (c). Government of distributed to meet priority requirements for India have 50 far approved the est.blia/uDlllt 73 Wrillen An,wers MAGHA 28, 1890 (SAKA) Wrilltn Answers 74 of 75 joint industrial projects with Indian Incentives to Export-OrIented collaboration in the following countries:- Industries Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Libya, Mauri- 29. SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN tius, Ningeria, Tanzania, Uganda, Zamhia. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : Ceylon, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia. SHRI SITARAM KESRI : Afghanistan, Indonesia, Malasyia, Singapore, Thailand, Ireland, N. Ireland, U.K. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH MAHIDA : Canada, Colombia, U. S. A., Grenada & Trinidad. Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: The overseas project. approved so far cover the manufacture of the following pro- (a) whether it is a fact that only Jess ducts in the countries of investment:- than one hundred industries in the country are engaged in exports out of the total of 2,000 industries ; Textlies, Soaps, lasti~ products, Asembly of clocks, Razor blades, Small Wheel-type Agricultural tractors, Pharmaceuticals, Prin- (b) if so, the rcasons therefore; ting inks, Florescent fixtures and other el~ trical accessories, Light engineering goods, ~ whether Government propose to cork products, Paper and pulp projects, Pipes, make available facilities for the import of Asbestos Cement products, Marble Mosaic equipment and raw materials to enable the tiles and rollingshullers, Solvent extration and industrial units to increase their exports ; and plam kernal curshing. Pencils, Steel products, Sugar, Enmelware products, Sewing machines (d) if so, the steps taken in the and electric fans, Glass products, P. V. C. matter? leather cloth, Trucks, Electric motors and transformers, Concentrates for soft drinks, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Pesticidal formulations, Vanaspati, sewing MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TARDE AND thread balls, rubber products, zinc oxide, SUPPL Y (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM ACSR and AAC and PVC insulated condu- SEW AK) : (a) The export sector covcrs ctors, Nylon bristles, Hardboard, Starch, hundreds of products fallina under several Liquid Glucose, Twist Drills, Fruit prodct. industries. It is true that not all InduttrlCll etc. export their products. (d) Twelve of the above project. have al- (oj Exports are possible when an indus- ready commenced production in the followina try produces an export worthy product, i. countries :- able to offer it at competitive prices and undertakes the marketina effort to reach Ethiopia, Kenya, Libya, Niaeria, Ceylon, overseas markets. Malaysia, Canada etc. (e) and (d). Import of raw malerials and equipment, nol available in India, is (e) The broad auidelines as arc follo- pcrmiltod apinst exports, as provided in lbe wed by the Government in approvin, joint ovenca.s vanturcs by Indian industrialists arc Import Trade Control Policy Book (Vol. m, Manufacturinll unill who have exported indicated in the statement laid on the Table more than 10% of their production durin, of the House. (P/ac«i in the Library, Su No, LT .10 169.) 1967-68, will be aiven ftldJities for CltptUlsion of production capacity. (f) ,.. IJlOIt of the projects rcCerred to Halt for Expr_/MaI1 TralDi at PatlUllll a1 'd' above have IOIIC into production olDy recently, It is too carl) to estimate the f~ ina ClIChaqe eaminas IXlnaoqucnt on their 30. SHRI C. K. CHAKRAPANI : lImctioniq in 0 ...... countries. SHRI MANGLATHUMADAM : 7$ Writ/In Answers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrillt'll ns ~rs 76 SHRI P. P. ESTHOSE : AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. SHRI E. K. NAY ANAR AHMED) : (a) No, Sir. Will Ihe Minister of RAILWAYS be (b) and (cl. Do not arise. pleased 10 state : (d) It is not proposed to taken up any (a) whether Government propose to new Rural Industries Projects during the Fourth Plan period. take measures to make a brief halt for Express and Mail trains at Pallambi in Olavakkot Division of the Southern Utilisation of Installed Capacity In Railway; Industries (b) if so. when it is likely to be effected; 33. SHRI HIMATSINGKA : and SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : SHRI NARENDRA SINGH MAHIDA : (c) if not, the reasons therefor? SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN : SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (8) to DR. RANEN SEN : (e). The present level of traffic offering SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI at Pattambi station is adequately served by 5 trains each way including 29.30 SHRI JAGESHWAR YADAV : Ma'abar Expresses scheduled to stop SHRI INDRAHT GUPTA: there. There i!'i no traffic justification SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL: for provision of stoppages of additional Mail/Express trains at this station. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU Rural Industrialisation In Bihar Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY 31. SHRI KAMESHWAR SINGH AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEV- ELOPMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (a) what was the extent of ,die capacity be pleased to state : during the first 9 months of the current financial year ending December, 1968 in respect of different industries ; (a) whether Government intend to select Monahyr District for rural indus- (b) which was the most hard-hit industry trialisation ; in this respect ; and (b) if so, the scheme prepared for (cl what steps were taken to maxlmlsc Besusarai and Kh...... ia sub-divisions, the use of available installed capacity in eeparalely ; each industry and what further efforts arc beina made to achieve cent percent utilisation of available capacity durin. the ensuins (c) the total amount to be in vested ; year? and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL (d) if not, the reasons therefor? DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. AHMED> : (a> to (e). The information THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL is beina collected and will be laid on lhe DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE Table of the House. 77 Wrillen A .... wers MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) Wrillen AMwers 78 Zinc Smelter at Vlsakbapatnam Reorpnllatlon of Coir Industry In KerBla 34. SHRI HIMATSINGKA : SHRI R. BARUA : 35. SHRI HIMATSINGKA : SHRI P. P. ADICHAN : SHRIMATI SUSEELA GOPALAN : SHRI N. R. LASKAR : SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : SHKI P. P. ESTHOSE : SHRI A. SREEDHARAN SHRI P. C. ADICHAN : SHRI BEDABRATA BARUA SHRI K. ANIRUDHAN : SHRI VALMIKI CHOUDHARY : SHRI K. TAPURIAH : SHRI GADILINGANA GOWD : Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES SHRI CHENGALRAYANAIOU : AND METALS be pleased to state: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE (a) whether an expert team from the AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: Polish agency, M's. Cenlrozap, visited Visakhapatnam in J~nuar , 1969 in connection with the preparation of a project report for (a) whethe the Government of Kerala the Zinc Smelter to be erected there; have sent a comprehensive plant for the reor&anisation of the Coir industry for the approval of the Central Government; (b) jf so, the observations of the team and the result of their spot study; and (b) if so, the details thereof and the (el the broad details of the project indi- major moditil1&tions to be brought about cating, production capacity to be installed, under the reorganisation scheme; ils cosl and foreign exchange content and the requiremenls of Ihe differenl raw materials for the plant and from where Ihese would be (e) the amount of expenditure in- obtained? volved under the scheme and the amount of a.sistance required from the Central Government for its implementation; and THE MINISTER OF PETRO-CHEMI- CALS AND MINES AND METALS (DR. (d) Government's reaction thereto? TRIG UNA SEN) : (a) No, Sir. THE DEPUTY MINISTER, IN THE (b) Docs not arise. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM (e) In the context' of the wide IPlP bet- SEWAK): (a) Yes, Sir, ween demand of zinc metal and its indigenous availability, the setting up of a Zinc Smelter of 30,000 tonnes per annum (b) and (e). A statement i. laid on the capacity at Visakhapatnam, bued on imported Table of the House. lac~d ill Llbarary See ~' ncentrates had been under consideration No. LT-II:68 ). Under the plant the of the Government. However, due to entire expenditure i. to be met by the constraint on resources, the project is not Ceotral Government. likely to be included in the Fourth Plan. Aa tbe ~i1ed project report is DOt yet pre- pared, the de~ . reprdina the projcet (b) The plan is under detailed cu· COlt&. forelp elICl-.. coo_t etc, .,. DOt minatioo In coaauItation with the coaccmed .va.ilable. autboriliea. 79 Written Answers ~ 18, 1969 W, ;lIell Answers 80 Productloa or Natural Rubber United Provinces Commercial Corporation (P) Ltd. ; 36. SHRI HIMATSINGKA : SHRI P. C. ADICHAN : (b) The names of Directors of the SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : above companies who have been prosecuted for criminal conspiracy to cheat the Union SHRI VALMIKI CHAUDHARY: Government, the amount of fraud involved and the sections under which the prosecution Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE is launched ; and AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: (c) The names of political leaders or (a) whether the Rubber Board at its present Ministers who were directors or meeting held at Kottayam assessed the advisers or employees at any time in the production of Natural rubber during current concerns of S. M. Wahi's management wIth year and found that the output this year is names of the companies concerned, the likely to rail short of the original estimate of date and duration of the occupancy of such 72,000 tonnes by over 3,000 tonnes ; post and the emoluments drawn during the period. by the individuals concerned? (b) if so, the reasons for the shortfall ; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL (c) the sugestions/recommendations DEVELOPMENT,INTERNAL TRADE AND made by the Board to tackle the situation; COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. AHMED): and (a) According to the information available with the Company Law Board the following (d) Government's reaction thereto 7 companies are controlled by Shri S. M. Wahi and other directors of United Provinces Commercial Corporation (Private) Ltd. :- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM (I) M:s. United Pr(lvinces Commercial SEWAK) : (a) Yes, Sir. Corporation Private Ltd. (b) The estimated short-fall is due to (2) M,'s. Agrind Fabrication Ltd. the unfavourable weather conditions durinll June-August 1968 and the strike of rubber (I) M,s. Assam Siliminite Company Ltd. plantations workers during 1st and 21st November, 1968. (4) Mis. Land Reclamation Corporation Ltd. (c) The Rubber Board has suuested the import of rubber to fill the lAP bet- (5) MiS. Parts Service India Ltd. ween demand and supply. (6) Mis. U. P. C. C.-Partnership con- (d) Government have allowed imports. cern. Ualtet! ProvInces Commercial CorporatJoa (b) Three prosecution. were launched .. (P) Ltd, per details below :- 37. SHRI BABU RAO PATEL: Will I. RC. 2166-CIA (/) the Ministec of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- MBNT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be This relates to supply of Road Rollers. pleased to slalC : The rollowina three Directors alGaawlth fourteen other accUIed have beau (a) The uames of comptlllies controlled cbaraesheeted under section llO-B/420!PC by Shri S, M. Wahl and other Di=ton or and 5 (2) of the Prevention of Corruption 81 Wr;lIen Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 I,SAKA) ",', illen II H'tr~· 82 Act, Section 420, 477-A IPC and S (2)/5(i)(d) II. RC 56/67-H}'fkrllbad of Act. II of 1947 on 27-8-1968 before the Fourth Additional Special Judge, Calcutta. This refers to the sale of land excavaton. The same three directors as mentioned in (I) Sh,.i S. M. Wahi, who i~ Director of-- RC 22/66-CIA (I) alongwith two other accused have been chargcshccted under (i) Mis. United Provinces Commercial section 120-B I.p,c. read with section 420, Corporation (Privale) Limiled, 409 I.P.c. and section S of Imports Ex- Calcutta. ports (Control) Act, 1947, and Scetion 409. 420 & 109 I. p, C. on 6-11-1967 before the Special Magistrate IVth City Mqistrate, (ii) Mis. Agrind Fabrication lId., Hyderabad. Calculla. The amount of fraud alleged i. (iii) Mis. Assam Siliminite ltd., Rs.6,07,471.10. Cauhati, Assam. III. RC 4/67 CIA (/) (iv) M.'s. Land Reclamation Cor- poration ltd., Calcutta. This refers to the sale of dralline buckets, Three directors as mentioned in (2) Shri K. M. Wahi, who i. a direclor case RC. 22,'66-CIA (I) alongwith flve other of;- accused have been chargcshccted under section 120-B read with section 420 IPC and (i) Mi" United Provinces Commer- 420 IPC on 3-1-69 before Chief Presidency cial Corporation (Private) Ltd., Magistrate, Calcutta, Calcutta. The amount of fraud 'allelled' i. about (ii) Mi" Agrind Fabrication ltd .. R •. 30,020.00. Calcutta. (c) Informalion in respect of prescnt (iii) M,'s, Land Reclamation Cor- Minister is being collected and it will be poralion ltd., Calcutta. laid on the Table of the House. The term 'political leader' is not Quite specific and it (iv) Mls, PariS Service India ltd., would no! be possible 10 "'OlIce! and furnish Calculla, the information in resard to them. (3) SIIrl R. M. Wahl, who is a director Foreilln COllaboration Policy of;- 38. SHRI D. R' PARMAR: (i) Mis, United Provinces Commer- SHRI N. K. SOMANI: cial Corporation (Private) Ltd" Calcutta. SHRI C. MUTHUSAMI : SHRI D. N. PATODIA : (ii) Mil. Aarind Fabrication ltd" SHRI J. MOHAMED IMAM: Calcutta. SHRI MEETHA lAl MEENA ; SHRI R. K. SINHA: (iii) MI', Land Reclamation Cor- SHRI R. K. AMIN ; poration ltd., CaICIlIta. SHRI C. C. DESAI : SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : (iv) Mis. Parts Service India lid., Calcutta. Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL AmowII of fraud al\cwed It about DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY Its. 2, 16,64,800. AFEAIRS be pleased to IIaIC : 83 Wrlllfn An,.'."., FEBRUARY 18,1969 Wrillen An-ll"l"rl (a) whether Government have recently India's Economic Policies chan8ed their policy regarding foreign co lIaboration ; 30. SHRI D. R. PARMAR: (b) if so, the details thereof; SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO SHRI C. MUTHUSAMI (c) whether Government have rsceived SHRI R. K. AMIN : any opinion from the industrialists and SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO : foreign entrepreneurs in India in this regard and SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH SHRI C. C. DESAI: (d) if so, the details thereof? SHRI D. N. PATODIA THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE DEVELOPMENT AND C~ AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. AHMED) : (a) and (b), No, Sir, Government's AFFAI RS be pleased to state: policy in regard to foreign collaboration continues to be guided by the statement (a) whether India's eminent industrialist, which the late Prime Minister Nehru made Shri J. R. D. Tata, has recently critised in the Constituent Assembly of India on the Government's cconomk policies and also 6th April. 1949. However, with a vie", to its decision on ,ital Questions; and a oidin~ repetitive import of know-how, Government have decided that coordinated (b) if so, the reaction of Government negotiation should be t:onductctl with foreign parties in fields where. thereto '! HIE MINIS I'ER OF INDUSTRIAL (i) a number of foreign collaboration DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE agreements already exist and a AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. new party applies for the same or AHMED) : (a) and (b). In the last meeting of similar no~~ o ; or the Central Advisory Council of Industries held in New Delhi on the 3rd 4th January, 1969, (ii) where a number of new units in Shri J. R. D. Tata had stressed that all cons- the same field are proposed to be traints against the favourable economic set up in the country at about the forces which had become visible particularly same time, the object being, after our success in the agricultural field, should be removed and where positive action (i) to reduce the outgo of foreilln was required, it should be tak.en Quickly and exchange, and with decisiveness. Shri Tata had also observed that the decision making machinery of the Government was cumbersome and (ii) to encourage indigenous slow. These observations had been made research and technological by Shri Tata mainly in the context of a few developmen t. proposals such as the small car project, the Tata Fertilizer project, the Korba Thermal (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. Certain individuals Station decisions of the Government on and Chambers of Commerce and Industry which were pending. A. these are cases have generally criticised Government's policy involving heavy investment and have rar mentioned above. The main points of reaching implications, they nlQuire a very criticism are that this policy would not be careful examination at Ihe hands of tbe practicable, that it implies a certain degree Government before final decisions can be of compulsion on individual industrialists taken on them. Government. however, and that this policy will not be in the lupr appreciate the frankness with which Shri interests of the COUDtry. Tala expressed his owo views. 8S W,;lIell AlIs.·e'J MAGHA 29. 1890 (SAKA) Wrillt'n AIIS14'rr,\' 86 Indll5tria1 Leicences for Pri •• le Indll5tries ~ Iff~~, ('IT ~IJ m~ IfiT ~l1 " !f~ 40. SHRI D. R. PARMAR: f~ "fA ~ lff('lif't ilITJf lliT flli('lOlT m~ SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : lHV'f l!IITT ; SHRI GADILINGANA GOWD : SHRI R. K. AMIN : (IT) nr ~ f~ i\' ~ flli('llfT ~ f~ tn: SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : 1J~'fiI~ ~'~f 'l 'f feT<'r f.,.flfn mT f~itm SHRI C. C. DESAI : if ~lflf if>T srf"fCfrf OlfIOf it:rr ~ 'I ~ ; Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANY ~ ~"I' ;P:'RT if;T IT('I Iftq Cfl\ll iii AFFA IRS be pleased to state: ~ lf qli lIH fif;"f'TT -flli'flfT <,[T'If ~ 1fT (a) the total number of a lli~ations F.Tflf ~ ~ ; received in each quarter during the last four years from Terivali sector Industries for (t') ~If m ~, fg'!f<'fT'T rol'f fl'fflf- (i) industrial licences; (ii) letters of intent; " 'fiT em feR ifT "lltf"f· ~ m(!ff"lfIf> and (iii) expansion; ~"I " If~ 'if<'TTlfT 'fTF."IT ~ ~" f"'!f i. ~ llI!..I!j J:II ~ l!~ ~~ i illt~~~ ti ~ ~J -)Jh !!It l!!ltJS .a!ltj .1..» '~l ~ (.B ) ~ ~ U!l!It &a.IS !!It lh*,&ldt .!Iaajb tl!l:lS ~ ~ ~J. ~ ijllit ~ ~ ~ llJi ~ ~ l!lt ~ l!~ !! »J.Ll! l!lh!l.l! !! 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J.Ilt l!1 1 4 ~ l. ~ J. lItJU b 1.111~ lIt~ ,b I l!J.l!a t1l ~Jill!lt ' 'b,l!¥o !ltI.tJlJll.b ~~III 'w 1:1! J,?,Il h. ~.Il Ij! . .I ~ .iitl!!lt ail J ~ l!t n.J~.I ~ ll!ltll:! hlth :t.\.t. ~ Jultl :1!l:!j\'.Il ni ~ ~~ 4 Jih ~ ..ItlI.I2j t1th t ~l! 1 l;}.!It .Il!lt 1,:11 .td.ll~ .121M .lo!1.llJ IS ~!,..iit H!It ~!It ::u. IItU/!'Jllo ~ ~~JH, h. tt.~ ni lbof! J:hl!> ,I! ~ !l! l~ ~!It '~ Hili Jl!lt,l! l!lt~J .!Ia. t~ ~l!. ! 1,:11 ~ltl~. . ,(It) ,t~ (.21) 1~~lt.J.lo!! l:!ta ~~ !bJ.b !tt~ u., ~I.t tla:t. ::u. l:!i!h 11th l!lt 8961 .I2.JSllI 1 ~~ ~ (!It) ~ ~ J ~ 1 ~ iit.lr., J~ ll! J~ ll~ (lbb ~ l~~ ! tal tJr.~ !'1!It-.b ....,a lh ~ l!!It ~ ~ 1}:L J~ J,JloU!: lh ll.RJ.b lA» l.1h1.ba ~ ',a~ ~tllll' !lth£j.iUjJe l!:Ll! t:JI ~ ..l!J !It ~.al ~ -.IIj.lo4 l:!.\f2 ..I!J ~ , ( ~ :Lllll (:l) i. ~ ll~ !!It :t.l!ltlh l!lt ~ l!11l.l:i !l.R!>j& .l:l:l!h.h il.l2J ~ ~ lU!iJaj!!lt 1 U" } I.t t.lill lh.l22h ! I~ ij:t ::u. ~lJa~ h:!.li JJUt ( It l llth l~ 8961 'H!~ ~ 61 ~ .ll t~ ..It 88 SJiI,"suy 1Ii1I1,IJAI 6961 '81 A lIV01l83.:1 "J~.""lI Uilll!JM L8 89 Wrill.n An,.'.,. MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKAl Wrill." AII,IV,r., 90 q'Tw.f ~~ ~~ ~ ~ ire ~ ~n~ Il00)- (b) the total loss incurred by the Hinduslan Steel Ltd. since its inception ; l ~~ 'H ~ " f'ff ~ I ~~ OfTfff ~ W;lffl iI~ r ft~ g,)?: ~ 'l ~ I~~ ~ ~ l ~ (c) how does the cost of production per ll'~ f"'1 ;m f~ lTll'i ~ I tonne of steel in the three plants of the Hindustan Steel Limited compare whith the cost of production per tonne in the Tata Iron ("'f) ~ ( __ ). "f'! "~ l ilg1T ~~ and Steel Co. and Indian Iron and Steel o.,pf-Sl"lT'f ~ ' I '~ it iI~ ~~ ilffl "~ l Company; and ~ I ~ f ~ ' AND METALS be pleased to state: Textile Mill. takaoo"r by G'"tmmeIIt In K ••I. (al the total 1011 incurred by !be HindtHtan Steel Ltd. in the yean 1967-68 45. SHRI MANGALA THUMADAM : and I~ so far, and its dislribution plant- Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE wise between Bhilai, Durppur and RourkeJs; AND SUPPLY be pleued to Slato : 91 Wrl/len An"wuJ FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wri/len Answer. 92 (a) whelher Ihere is an inadequale supp- (c) Ihe amount of comspensation paid (h) the quantity of steel scrap materials so far? supplied to the small scale industries during 1967-68; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND (d the sleps being taken to supply steel SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM to the small scale industries regularly? SEWAKJ : (a) One. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) None. MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY ENGINEERING (SHRI K. c. PANT) (c) Does not arise. (a) to (c). There is 01 prcsent a shortage in respect of sheets, pig iron and billets in Indu!lrial L1eenees In Kerala the country. All efforts are being made to augment production and equilably distribute 46. Shri Manlllllalhumadam : Will the available supplies to all users. induding those Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT in the small-scale sector. As regards scrap. AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to this is distributed by the Steel Plants direcl state: to the consumers and other nominees of their choke. (a) the number of new industrial licences issued during the last six months for starting M. G. Railway Lines in Southern small scale and large scale industries in thc Railway country; and 48. SHRI MANGALATHUMADAM (b) the number of licences out of Ihem Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased which have been given for industries coming to state up in Kerala ? (a) the number of Metre-gauge lines constructed during the Third Plan in the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Southern Railway. with prO\'ision for Broad- DEVELOPMENT. INTERNAL TRADE Gauge bridges at the time of conversion of AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. these lines into broad-gauge line; AHMED) : (a) and (h). During Ihe last six mon- ths (1st July to 31st December. 1'168) IR licences (b) whether there is any proposal to were issued undcr the Inuuslfies (Development convert the Quilon-Emakulam line into a and Regulation) Act. 19SI. for Ihe establish- broad-gauiC line; and ment of New Industrial Undertakings of which one was for Kerala. (No licences are (e) if so. the additional cost involved ? required for starting small scale indust ries). THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. Supply of Ste.1 10 Small Scale Industries RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (a) For the Salem-Bangalore M. G. line (Iaken 47. SHRI MANGALATHUMADAM : up for construction during the "I Plan SHRI SAMAR GUHA : and recently completed) on the Southern Rail way, provision has been made for sub- SHRI P. VISWAMBHARAN : structures of bridICS for Broad Oa. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : Standard. For the Manplore-"-n IiDe SHRI SURRENDRANATH DWIVEDY also, which was commenced in the Third Plan 93. r lI~n Answer .. MAGHA 29, 1890'(SAKA) ritt~n An'M'trs 94 and is now in progress, the sub-structures of ~ if ~~ .mr ~.f'1 l ~ f~rn bridges are being built to Broad-Gauge ~ IATImf standard. (b) and (e). Preliminary Engineering and Traffic Surveys are proposed to be taken up in 1969-70 for the conversion into B. G. of ~ 'r •• f~1Ii lanq ~ ~ '" 1Jfl'l J:j.,.."1 q'il the Ernakulam-QlIilon-Trivandrum M. G. '.f~rrit ~I 'fen if:i:ir f;r; : section. The estimated cast af conversion of the QlIilan-Frnaklllam section will be known only after the "If'"),' aro completed. ('f.) ~ 'r llg 1!T'q ~ f~ . f~~ it ~~ "fT1:r cllfH mH it q'lit f"TP: 1!T • .f'rqq'f fmfT 1f'n ~t ~~ t t'T;{ fu},! ~ 'l'~ ~ iii; Tf'l' it ~~c~ ~ r 1! if ~ t ; " f 'l'll'' ~~ (11f) f~ gi. "TT f~ it ~ it ~ 49. ~ ~~ ~ ft : n~ Olff"f. Q'l'it f;r;1fit f.f~c ~.ilf.~!ff.n 'IT ~.. f~~ 1{n:(,{T : ~ ~C ~'f '1;r;"Tr ~ ; ~ ' ~ -.:f"f"r q-il !1fI~ if:1 'f'l'T ;r;i:ir (If) ~ ' '>'lrn: ~ W-'l' it lilt, ~~~f f~ 'l' Qlq-Trr 5J"'f, f"fln ;fT1H ~ ; ~ (;r;) f~ f 'IT iI'l'ft ~ -:;r;::r:imn ( Il) !If.: gt, "IT flIil!T ~~ q7 ? ii'fT sllif:1 'l'f"'flf"T 1ll'if.~1 l ~'l' m ;r;T Eq'T"T it ~"' t ~rr V'f'P'TT Qh :;n:;r{ ~ . f~1Ii Itrm~ (llIIrT 1Jfl'l """'" if I1IfT"T f<:1'"TI Qh sl1~ ~f ~ ~'" m'lT ('IT .11RT U1f 9-') : (lIi) Qh f~~ flli~ f~~ "T 'qTf"f"T l:"f'lrfHi "'f"fR if:1 ~~ , (11f) . if 7g'r "fT"fT cq-f.,; ,,"'lit ~r 'f.T f~n ~ ; f;;'f:c "!P.f;q'l, *'r f'l'iT, lIT"IT, '!'IT, ,!'IT''r, 'Ilrt, ili\"T ,,"q"fT Iff"T j 'r ~ .nrT (_TO U1f 'l~" f~ (iii) f~ fW'ir ~ I ~ '3"f- 51. 11ft ~ mIft: ~ ~ .'hi f't FrT If'tit fit; : ('-") ~ (IJ'). Ifl~ QTII'Pr rru IJ''''~ ~ lr.I' ;r ~1ft ~f lfir ~ (lIi) .!IT ~ IIJ6R if 1 ~rlr~ ~ rnif lIiT ~ f~ t I ~ t '>If- l ~ if ~ flliff't ~ t ~ IfllrT ;m'f t~ mr}Pfrf;;nr m~ ~ r~ ~ WIf ~ lIiT flJlfffr fiI;1n IT1fT iii ~ IIi'tt ~ l'f1nf QAT IA'Ift m m f1'l' ~ fmr 1jn ~l!", 1ft ~fi'f nTlfflff, ~ I IT'(; W: Writt", Ans ..,,. FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrltttn A,uM-trs 96 (I!r) 'llf.p:tr if t:'!f "'3"u'tIT 'fi't lf~ f (e) whether it is a fact that a new ~ if; f<;it ~1f ~ ~H If ~ 1FT ITf tr't:;r;rr scooter plant would be set up in the country tl and if so, the details thereof? 'fir ~~ 'f1fT ~ ? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL ,,~ 1If ~~ If'fT 'If<'T lim"f" q DEVELOPMENT. INTERNAL TRADE .JIf li~1 (1111 ""~1 u'"'~ (IF) f'flfT'f AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. : AHMED) : (a) Three. if; ~ 1lIfu" \cIanuracture or Scooters "miN '"" ~ r'~ ~ -mvr ~f" 54. SHRI P. VISWAMBHARAN : 53. Ill) ~ f.~~ Im\qq.) : SHRI RAGHUVIR SINGH SHASTRI: lI1 n~I!f1I ~ SHRIB.K.DASCHAUDHARY: Ill) ~11' Ulf 1ITm : SHRI CHENGAIRA Y A NAIDU : SHRI N. R. LASKAR : lilT ~~ witqrt'S $TY"lf'rilI : SHRI R. BARUA : Ill) m'lf f~ "' ~ SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA : 1111 mfm "'J: SHRI YAJNA DATI SHARMA: SHRI SITA RAM KESRI : 'flU .~ an ~ 'l'~ 'lm ~l If~ ~ .'l'R 'fir ~'l IFti'r f'fi : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE· VELOPMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to states : ('fi) IT ~~ 1Im ~ ~~ ,r~ ~ if ~1I f ~ wnn. • tll1f ~ '" ~ ~1 (sr1 ~1 ~ ~~ . (If;) ~~ "",lit,, (1II). ~'11"!' ~ f~ 'fi" ~ IITiR', 1968 (c) It is difficult to anticipate and Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES state the names of the mills to be taken AND METALS be pleased to state: over during the year 1969. (a> whether it is a fact that the Hindus- Trade Delegation to U.A.R. tan Steel Ltd. will train SOO Iranian techni- cians for the Government owned steel plant 56. SHRI N.K. SANGHI : in Iran SHRI R.R. SINGH DEO : (b) whether any agreement has been SHRI RAMCHANDRA VEERAPPA : signed with the Government of Iran in this SHRI Y.A. PRASAD: regard; and Will the MINISTER OF FOREIGN (c) if so, the details thereof? TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND HEAVY ENGINEERING (SHAI c'M. (a) whether it is a fact that a three man POONACHA) (a) to (c) Hindu- Indian Trade Delqation visited Cairo to stan Steel Limited have, subject to review the existing trade agreement with confirmation by the Governments of India U.A. R.; and Iran, entered into an agreement with the National Iranian Steel Corporation, (b) if so, the result thereof Teheran, for the training of about S09 Iranian persoQllel in its Plants. The agree- (c) whether the delegation has found ment has been approved by the Government any possibilities of further expansion of of India. Indo U. A. R. trade; and According to the agreement, training (d) if so, the details thereof 1 will be imparted for periods varying from 3 to IS months for different groups of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE trainee., and will be spread over till about MINISTR Y OF FOREIGN TRADE AND the end of 1971. The National Iranian SUPPL Y (SHRI CHODHAR Y RAM Steel Corporation will pay to HSL the neces- SEWAK) : (a> Yes, Sir. sary training costs and reimburse other ex- penses connected therewith in U. S. Doll- (b) to (d). This was the regular half ars. yearly review of trade between India and the U. A. R. during the current agreement Seheme to benefit class I, II and III Rail- period (July 1968 to June 1969); and the way employees two sides agreed to various measure; required to ensure a smooth ftow of trade. 58. SHRI N.K. SANGHI The two sides aareed to meet again in June SHRI RAGHUVIR SINGH SHASTRI : 1969 in order to agree on a Trade Arrange- ment for the next year, when they will try SHRI R.R. SINGH DEO : to agree on a further expansion of their SHRI D.N. PATODIA : bilateral trade. SHRI MANIBHAI J. PATEL: Tralalal of 1.... 10 Tecbnld_ by H .S. L. SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL SHRI Y.A. PRASAD: 57. SHRI N.K. SANGHI : SHRI RAMACHANDRA VEERAPPA: SHRI R.R. SINGH DEO : SHRI R.K. SINHA: SHRI B.K. DASCHOWDHURY : SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : SHRI Y.A. PRASAD : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be SHRI RAMACHANDRA VEERAPPA : pleased to state : 101 rf l~rr A'l$wers MAGHA 29, 1896 (SAKA> rftt~rr Arrswes 102 <8> whether it is 8 fact that Railway Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES Board have approved a scheme to benefit AND METALS be pleased to state: Class I, II and IU staff of the Railway; (a> whether Government have received (b> if so, the details thereof; and the feasibility report on Talcher Industrial Complex from abroad; and (c) when the scheme is likely to be implemented ? (b) whether Government have taken any decision to set up the Industrial Complex at THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. Talcher ? RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (a) and (b). In consideration of the increase in workload and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND responsibilities of some Class I posts, it was CHEMICALS AND MINES AND METALS decided that 148 Senior Scale post should (DR. TRIG UNA SEN) HOOIIIIIDI... .t KIriI.th R.II .... " 59. SHRI S. KUNDU : Station (E. Rlf.) SHRI SURENDANATH DWIVEDY : SHRI S. M. KRISHNA: 61. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACHWAI : SHRI SRINIBAS MISRA : SHill K. P. SINGH DEO : 103 Wrillen Answers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Writ/tn A".wers 104 Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (b) Docs not arise. pleased to state : (c) During the period April-December whether it is a fact that a violent 1968, the rise in trade due to the export of mob had tried forcibly to secure the re- aluminium metal to other countries is lease of some ticketless travellers at Kari- Rs. 526 lakhs. sath station of the Eastern Railway and set fire to stationary railway wagons and looted Derailment of Goods TraIn near Banar- the booking office of the Arrah station in hat Station (N. E. Railway) January, 1969 ; 63. SHRI B. K_ DASCHOWDHURY : (b) the extent of damage caused as a SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN: result of burring of the station records and SHRI BALRAJ MADHOK : fire to cotton bales in the goods shed; SHRI RANJIT SINGH: SHRI D. C. SHARMA: (c) whether any judicial inquiry has SHRI BENI SHANKER SHARMA: been ordered into the matter; and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (d) if so, the result thereof? pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF RAILWAY (DR. (a) whether it is a fact that a Goods RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (a) Yes, except train derailed near Banarhat Station of the that no staionery Railway wagons were North Eastern Railway on the morning of set on fire. the 1st January. 1969 resulting in the death of one and injuries to three persons ; (b) Rs.7,9OO/- approximately. (b) if so. the cause of the derailment; (c) No and (d) Docs not arise. (c) the nature of the compensation paid to the victims and punishment awarded AluminIum Conductors to the guilty? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAY (DR. 62. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) The derail- Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- ment took place at Banarhat Station of the LOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND Northeast Frontier Railway. In this COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: acciden t one person was killed and 4 sustained injuries. (c) the approximate rise in the trade 64. SHRI V. NARASIMHA RAO : will due to tbe export of aluminium metal to the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND other countries 7 SUPPLY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL (b) whether Government had sanctioned f~ltiil' II>T ~ rn mr lfi1t~~ ~ m1f any loan for the development of the mill ; ~ ~~ ~ ~ If~'1 rn ~ f~ ~ ~~ ltiT IJIfT l ? (c) if so, the amount spend so far and present stage of the mill; and ~ "'" (wt e @f !"'" ~ : (Ifi) (d) the quantum of thread to be manu- If~ ~ Cflil if f.-.rr f~~ Il'f"lIIT ~ ~ factured therein? ~ ~ ' ~ '1ft f~ r ~ f r it, ~i 'if THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ~ i lti ~ r ~If '!i~ ~ t I {;irfll>;:r MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND ~"' ~ n: If'f Iflft f~ ~ ~ m'm SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM q<: m~ ~~ <'T1fR 1ft:( ~r r ~ SEWAK) : (a) The Saibaba Textile Mill has i"fh: not commenced production. ~m lJf~ ~ 20 ~ 25 ~f~ ~ ~~ f r~1 (b) to (d). The mills had been licen- sed for 12,096 spindles on which product- ion on the basis of 20s counts is estimated (r.r) ;;rf ~ I at 1.30 lakh Kgs. per month. Because of financial difficulties, the mills have not (If) ;;rT r~, ~ ~ '-""if n: made any substan tial progress as they have 1~1f~1 ~ ~c.mt ~~ I not been able to obtain loans from Financial If'm-if>trT Institutions. Their request for financial assistance is reported to be under consider- (\;f) ~ ~ ~ n: ~~If'n l m atian of the state Government. ~~ ~ ~it ,!WT ~ if 'tilf"fTit WR- ;;rtil' ~~ If'Jfif f~Il' If'f ~~Ilffl ~. if ~ hl' mr If"" If'tif ~ I f.r f~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 65. '1' ~ ~~l! ~'1 ~ r eft Ifflf '~ t m ;:r '1' '1t.~ .rrQ'\'S : 'll~ ~11 '1' ~ ~~ 1I!9lnQ' : Eaqulry _plast Blra. Group of tm ~ "'" Il'~ ffi~ ~ '[.'1T 'f ~it Comp_ales fll> : 66. SHRI HEM BARUA : (11)) <'TPrT nu f.-.rr f~ r.~ 1fT'JfT f~ SHRI NAMBIAR : ;;rf.\ ~ ltin::([T IJ~ err;:r ffi if m If>l SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : SHRI R. K. SINHA: f~ f~ ~ ~t, SHRIMATI SUSEELA GOPALAN : (l!f) 'flfT ~~ ~ f~ f~ Ifm SHRI VISWANATHA MENON: SHRI BALRAJ MADHOK : If>l ~ ~ f~ f~ ~ ~ SHRI RANJIT SINGH : ltiT ~ f"lilrTt. SHRI D. C. SHARMA : SHRI BENl SHANKER SHARMA : (If) 'flfT ~ 'f ~ ~ for-r n: IfiTf SHRl HARDYAL DEVGUN: m...,.~ lti~ ~f~ mt SHRI RABI RAY: ~1f "Jf rn mn~mrif~ ~ m 'II't ~nrt' r~ rn ~ fit ~~ ~ WIIJ the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- VELOPMENT, INTERNAL mADE AND ~n ~.mtt m COMPANY AFFAIRS be pJcued 10 .181e : (_) m ~, et tRf ~ ~ n: (a) whether it is a rac:t that certain 107 Written Answer! FEBR'UARY 18, 1969 108 serious alleptions of malpractices have (c) whether Government have received been made apinst the House of Birlas ; any representation from the tea srowing State for siving help to the Tea Industry; lb) if so, what are these allegations; and and (d) if so, the action proposed to be (c) whether any enquiry has been taken by Government in the matter ? ordered into these allesed malpractices? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. SEWAK) : (a) The price of tea in the inter- AHMED) : (a) Certain allegations of mal- national market was lower during the year practices against the Birla Group of Indus- 1968 than in the previous year. tries have been made in three memoranda submitted by Shri Chandra Shekhar M. P. (b) With a view to offsetting the decline in prices. the following concessions (b) The allegations cover a wide ranse were granted: (i) the export duty rebate of subjects such as, violation of the regu- was increased from 24 p to 35 per kg lations pertainins to customs, income-tax- with effect from I. 10. 68. (ii) the special insurance, central excise, capital issues and excise duty of 20";, of the basic excise duty foreisn exchanse ; favours shown by certain was withdrawn with effect from 1. 10. 68 State Government; employment of retired (iii) a replanting subsidy scheme at the rate Government officials and the wives and of RI. 3,500 per hectare for plains gardens relatives of executives of Birla Firms on and Rs. 4, 500- per hectare for hill gardens high salaries; and manufacture of sub- was also announced for helping the Industry standard products and profiteering etc. in carrying out replantation of old tea areas, (c) A preliminary inquiry into these alleptions was taken in hand immediately after their receipt by the Government. (e) Yes, Sir. (d) Steps have been taken at the Inter- Fall In Prices of Tea International national level to attempt to reverse the fail- Market ing trend in tea prices by more intensive promotion. and for identifying and cerrect- 61. SHRI HEM RAJ : ing deficiencies in the market mechanism so SHRIMATI ILA PAL CHOUDHARY : as to remove factors that result in a depress- SHRI BISHWANATH ROY ion of prices. Internal measures necessary SHRI N. R. LASKAR : for strengthening the position of the tea SHRI R. BARUA : industry arc also receiving action consider- ation. SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL SHRI S. S. KOTHARI : Alboka Mehla COIIIIIIlttee's Report oa Kbadl SHRI BEDABRATA BARUA : and Vlllaae Indllltries Comalaloa SHRI BISVANARAYAN SHASTRI: 68. SHRI HEM RAJ: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : SHRIBHOGENDRAJHA: (a) whether it is a fact that the prices of DR. RANEN SEN: tea in the international market have fallco SHRI J. M. BISWAS : lteeply crcatina a crisis for the Indian tea SHRI SARJOO PANDEY: lDdullry; SHRI RAM GOPAL SHALWALE: (b) if 10, the stepa taken by Govern- SHRI RANllT SINGH: ment to help the industry in this crisis; SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : 109 r lI~n Answer" MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) Wrill." A"lwers 110 SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI Operation of Closed out-Alend" SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN LAL : 70. SHRI HEM RAJ : Will the Minister Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE of RAIL WAYS be pleased to refer to the reply aiven to Unstarred Question No. 3Ol2 AND SUPPLY be pleased to refer to the on the lrd December, 1968 and state; reply given to Unstarred Question No, 1205 on the 19th November, 1968 and state : (a) whether the Mandi Kulu Corporation in which the Central Government have lot (a) whether the opinions of the State shares, has to operate the closed out- Governments and Union Territories on the qrced agencies at gaaret, Bharwain, Prqpur, Ashoka Mehta Committee Report on Khadi Nadaun and Jawalamukhi and tho city and Village Industries Commission have BookiDl alency at Kanara; and ince been received; and (b) if so, when will they beain func- (b) whether the same have been consi- tioniDl ? dered by Government aDd if so, the decision taken thereon? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) The Mandi THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Kulu Road Transport Corporation have MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND decided not to undertake the workilll of SUPPL Y (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM these Asencies. SEWAK : (a) So far, replies have been re.:eiv- ed only from the Governments of Punjab Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal, (b) In view of the aDSwer to part (a), Manipur Administration, Dadra & Nagar the Question dOC! not arise, Havel; and Nagaland, Wool ProcenlDI Ceatre at VIDIIUWI- (b) The decision will be take n by the ..lam (Ambur) Government after replies are received from the other State Governments, 71. SHRI M. L. SONDHI : Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUP- Air-lifting or Indian goods to Afghanistan PL Y be pleased to state ; (a) whether it is a fact that the Wool 69, SHRI HEM RAJ : Will the Minister Processinll Centre at Vinnamanplam Dear of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY Ambur, which is a joint venture of the be pleased to refer to the reply, given Madras and Myoore GovernmeDtl with to Uostarred Question No, 2214 on the 26th financial participatioD by tho Central Govern November, 1968 and state: ment is in a bad shape ; aDd (a) whether Government have since exa- (b) if 10, the reasons therefor? mined the proposal for airliftiDl of Indian aoods to Afahanistan at conccssionat rates; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM (b) if 10, the decision taken thereon? SEWAK) : (a) whether it is a fact that an Export- possibilities of importing increased quantum cum-Fertilizer industry under the name of of goods from India; and Hapur Bone Mills which were under the charge of a refugee from West Pakistan for (b) if so, the items which the Japanese 13 years is lying in ruins after its transfer to Mission agreed to import from India? another party who is a blacklisted firm ; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) if so, the reason why this industry, MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND which was earning foreign exchange, was SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM allowed to lapse in such an abnormal SEWAK) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir Japanese Trade manner? Mission visited India recently to study speci- fically the prospects of increasing further the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL exports from India 10 Japan of pellets, salt, DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE leaf tobacco, pra"ns. sheep casings, oil cakes, AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. precious stones and vegetables and fruits. The AHMED) : (a) and (b) . The information is Mission would report their findings to the being collected and will be laid on Table of Japanese Government. However, during the House. discussions with the Mission, it trans- pired that the Mission felt that there was a considerable potential for the growth of Visit by Japanese Trade Mission exports of the above-mentioned products from India to Japan. ·73. SHRI M. L. SONDHI : SHRI YASHWANT SINGH KUSH- Zinc Smelter al Visakbapatnam WAH: SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : ·74. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : SHRI C. MUTHUSAMY : SHRI N. K. SANGHI : SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO : SHRI R. K. AMIN : DR. KARNI SINGH: SHRI J. MOHAMED IMAM SHRI BAL RAJ MADHOK : SHRI R. V. NAIK : SHRI RANJIT SINGH: SHRI MANIBHAI J. PATEL: SHRI D. C. SHARMA: SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: SHRI BENI SHANKER SHARMA: SHRI J. B. SINGH: SHRI HARDA Y AL DEVGUN : SHRI SHRI GOPAL SABOO : SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH SHRI SHARDA NAND : SHRI N. R. LASKAR : SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL: SHRI R. BARUA : SHRI C. C. DESAI : SHRIMATI ILA PALCHOWDHURY: SHRI BALARAJ MADHOK : SHRI BHOLA NATH MASTER: SHRI RANJIT SINGH: SHRI D. C. SHARMA : Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES SHRI BENI SHANKER SHARMA : AND METALS be pleased to state: SHRI HARDAYAL DEVGUN : SHRI D. N. PATODIA : (a) whelher it is a fact that Goveromet propose to set up a zinc smelter ba3ed on SHRI N. R. LASKAR : imported zioc concentrates at Visakha- SHRI R. BARUA : patnam ; SHRI Y. A. PRASAD: (b) whether it is also a fact thai Govern- Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE ment of Rajasthan have disfavoured this AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : proposal and have sugested that the zinc smelter in Rajasthan should be expanded (a) whether it is a fact that a Japanese instead as the State has suflicieot zinc ore to Trade Miuion visited India to explore the meet the requirements of the country: 113 rill~n ns ~rs MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) rllt~n Answus 114 (c) if so, the reasons for setting up a SHRI HARDY AL DEVGUN : zinc smelter at Visakhapatnam particularly SHRIMATlILAPAL CHOUDHURY: when there are no deposit of zinc in that SHRI SHARDA NAND: area; and SHRI KANWAR LAL GUPTA: (d) the reaction of Government thereto: SHRI ONKAR SINGH: SHRI J. B. SINGH: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND SHRI BANSH NARAIN SINGH: CHEMICALS AND MINES AND METALS (DR. TRIG UNA SEN): (a) In view of the Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- wide gap between the demand for zinc metal and VELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND its indigenous availability and considering the COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: foreign exchange savings that will accure from the production of zinc metal from (a) whether it is ~ fact that Government imported zinc concentrates, the setting up propose to modernise the textile and sugar of a zinc smelter at Visakhapatnam had been industries and the Institution like the under consideration of the Government for National Industrial Finance Corporation are sometime past. proposed to finance the programme; (b) Yes Sir. (b) whether the proposal bas been finalised; (c) and (d). After taking into account the possibilities of metal yield from the zinc (e) if so. the details thereof; and smelter at Debari (Udaipur) on present and expanded levels as also after allowing for (d) if not, the period likely to be taken the private sector unit at Alwaye to achieve for its finalisation? its present full rated capacity and its possi- ble expansion in the future years, it is anti- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL cipated that there would still be a very sub- DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE stantial shortage of zinc metal in the country AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. by 1973-74 as the demand by than is expec- AHMED) : (a) to (e). The need for moder- led to pick up to a level of about 1,40,000 nisation of the textile and sugar industries has tonnes per annum. It has been assessed that been engaging (he attention of the Government there would be a saving of foreign exchange for sometime and a decision has been taken to the extent of 30-40';:, by smelting the (0 the effect that facilities should be given imported concentrates in the country rather to individual mills 'factories to obtain than to import metal as such. In view of assistance from financing agencies like the the anticipated shortage of metal, it has Industrial Finance Corporation of India. The been felt that it would be to the country's resources made available to the financing advantage if a zinc smelter based on imported agencies are considered to be adequate to concentrates could be set up at Visakha- meet the rehabilitation and modernisation patnam. However, due to difficult resources requirements of these industries. It has position, this project could not be taken up been left to the Industrial Finance Corpo- for implementation earlier and as the resou- ration of India and other financing agencies rces position still continues to be acute, it is to scrutinise individual applications (or doubtful whether this project will find a assistance on the basis of appropriate crite- place in the new Fourth Five Year Plan ria such as credit worthiness of the appli- (1969-74). In any case, the proposal is in cants and decide on merits the e"tent to no way e"petted to affect the development which they miaht assilt the individual UDit •. of the Rajasthan deposits. (d) This question does not ariae. Moderalsation of Textile and S...., Iallultrles Export o( Flat Cars to RUIIWIla ". SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : 76. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHJ : SHRI N. R. LASKAR : liS Wrillell AIIsK'er,\' FE'BRUARY 18. 1969 Wrillen An.fll'ers 116 SHRI R. K. SINHA: (a) the total number of applications SHRI R. BARUA : received during each quarter during the last SHRIMATI ILA PAL CHOWDHURY: four years for (i) industrial licences, (ii) lellers of intent, (iii) expponsion, from SHRI BHARAT SINGH CHAUHAN: public sector industries ; SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACHWAI : (b) the total time taken in taking final Will the Ministr of FOREIGN TRADE decision on these applications; and AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : (c) Whether there is any time limit for (a) whether it is a fact that the Govern- disposal of these applications and if so, the ment of Rumania have agreed to purchase details thereof? Fiat cars under the Indo-Rumanian trade agreement; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL TRADE (b) if so, their numbers, price, mode of AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. payment and delivery schedule; AHMED) : (a) to (e). The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (c) whether the Fiat or Ambassador cars have also been exported to other coun- tries during 1968 ; Licences for Expansion Programme 10 Public Sector (d) if so, their numbers separately, the names of importing countries and the total 78. SHRI K. SINGH DEO : value of each lot; and SHRI GADlLlNGANA GOWD : (e) the details of the orders, if any, in SHRI R. K. AMIN : hand at present ? SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : DR. SUSHILA NAY AR : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SHRI C. C. DESAI: SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM SEWAK) : (a) The Government of Rumania Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- has shown interest in the purchase of Fiat cars VELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND and the S. T. C. is processing the enquiry COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: further. (a) the details of licences issued for (b) Docs not arise. expansion of capacity of existing industries in the public sector during the last four years; and (c) No, Sir. (b) Whether these licences were with- (d) and (c). Do not arise. drawn for non-implementation of expansion programme during the maximum period pro- IndlUltrlal Licences for Publication vided under the rule 1 77. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO : THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL SHRI GADILINGANA GOWD : DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. SHRI R. K. AMIN : AHMED): (a) Detail of all licences issued SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH under the Industries (Dev. & Reg.) Act, 19SJ, SHRI C. C. DESAI : including those for substantial expansion of capacity in the Public Sector Undcrtakinp, Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- arc published in the Weekly Bulletin of Indus- VELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND trial Licences, Import Licences and Export COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state; Licences; Weekly lDdian Trade JOW'IIaI and 117 Wrillen Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 the Monthl y Journal of Industry and Trade (b) to (e). Do not arise. Copies of these publicat ions are supplied to the Library of the Parliament. g)! ~ Ifl"'T q ~ ~ '"1fT flf"lW," (b) The Industries (Dev. & Reg.) Act, 1951, does not provide for withdrawal of 80. lifT ~ f~ ~ tm licences. If a Iieansee fail to establish or .. .m~ an ~ ""'T "r~ li'liT ~ ~ take effective steps for the establishment of i ~i the Industrial Undertaking within the peri- !f:f ,,!'IT f'll ods specified in the licence, or such period for which validity of a licence may be ex (iF) ifQT ll'~ ij'i'f ~ f;.- ~~~ ~ tended, the GoveCl:ment may revoke the ll'Q r:rnr i'f<'TiIT ~ f!f: ~ tvr emfT ~ !fiT licence, after giving an opportunity to a licensee to state his case. Details of the ofiF lI'iFl'1: ~ '!,r~ q. lf~f'f tl'TrrT f'fiFT<'TT ~ licences revoked are also published in the l '~r~ t !'~ Journals mentioned above. ~t, ~ ~ ~I!" Saboteurs In Heavy Macblne Building ("") lTR "1'1 f'flSif."l Plant, Rancbi. tiT iFT l ~ if; f'fll'f; t;!'1r r.p:ir tif ~ 'd if; t;!'T1fT"I' q'7 i ~t "I'iF lI'~J'if ~rrr 7 79. SHRI BABURAO PATEL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP- MENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND .. im. 1 1IfI~ ~ 'lfif ",""If if COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: m'll't (IIf) .mm uq ~~ : ~ 'Ii"fH~ f~ (a) the names and designations of the m'!IT if; fif'l'fmr ;,;m six employees who were charge-sheeted by f (b) the specific charges against these ( "") lI'H 'f~ ,,"0;1' saboteurs and the sections under which they are being Prosecuted before the Sessions Court, Ranchi : fmft if ~ ~ ~III " (c) Whether it is a fact that th ..e sab- 81. lifT ~11I f"l ~mft : !tIfT ~ oteurs were financed and set up by the Pakis- I'I'lIfT ll'~ ~r~ ~'t 'li'fr ~~i fit; : tan High Commission in India; f~r.r ~ .. f~ (d) if so, the precise steps taken by (iF) lfm1: Cr.rt'f if; Government to prevent similar sabotage by t;!'rit ~ efllf it ;ft (e) Whether any Hindu employees were ~ ! ~f' t~.ri f~ involved in the fire incident and if 50, there ("") m names ? l!1~~ ~H ~ ~it'f ~ ~ " IJ\ 'tilt SlfT'f ~ ~r ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY ENGINEERING (SHRI K. C. PANT): ~ .m (Ito uq !"'T f~ (a> No penon was charge sheeted by ~ t<;rlf 'liT i'f1'1'T If' ~'f ~lf' ~ ~ the Police in the case of fire which occurred in the Heavy Machine BuiJdioa Plant at tl RaDchi in January, 1964. This particular ~ ~lml f~~ cue was held, after police investiption, to (... ) he an tlCcident. ~ rn ij'Iftf ~ _ nt n ~ aTlI'- 119 Wrillen An.lwers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wri/le" An.lwers 120 ~ ~" f~ mr it; f... ~ ~Jf ~r Industrial IIDlts In Laccadlves ~'f 'f ~ urr"\" ~ ~ 'l ~ I ·83. SHRI P. M. SA YEED: Will the Minister ofiNDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY i!Iu .m "ri'ral"'" itI.~ m AFFAIRS be pleased 10 stale : \'Itt" !fil .)((1 f1fiql 1I1IfT (a) the number and names of the Industrial Units functioning in Laccadives ; 82. IIItT ~roll f~ m~ : "1fT 't\'l. Ii,*" ~ iRfTit ~r !,'l'T ~~it f~ : (b) Ihe amounts sanclioned for each (!fi) Ifln' If~ ~ ~ f~ itu; ~1 If f"flf i l~ Unit during Ihe lasl four years. year-wise; and it; it..- ~,r m orl!;'!' ~it it; ~Hl! it<>; a'IT lI' ~ Ifrf'l'll't if~ ~Jflf ~a ~ ~1 (c) the amounts actually apent on ~~ Iflf~lft f~~ ~it if ~f l~ ~ each Unit during Ihe above period? m f~ ~ -.rTit i\' ~Jf l1Jfll' \'lifT ~ ; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DE- ~ VELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F.A. AHMED): (a) 10 (c). The information is being collecled lI'f~ ~t, 'IT f~ nif l!'lT<: (I!f) if rn and il will be laid on Ihe Table of Ihe House. it; fotif, f~~ m~ torr"\" if ~it Ii'll i\', itu; a~ ~ ~n orl~ r fi ~ ~ Industrial Units In Laceadl.e. srffi'f 'l'<: l'I ~ ~ rn srf~1f ~ ? 84. SHRI P. M. SA YEED : Will Ihe Minister of I NDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ~ ""T (1'10 Uq '1~" f~ INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY ( ~ ) ~"f a,~ it; ~If I!f'J~ ifT '!"fiiT if AFFAIRS be pleased to slalc : ~ If f'lflf m "-prr 'l'<: n~Jn.'f"fsr "f1 (0) whelher Government have any ~rft If f~li !f;T If ~ i\' ifg;f ~f'l!f ~If rroposal under consideralion for the exp- ;riff <'rIfifl I If~ ~ !f ~ f!f; if ~ ~ Iflf'lflfT- ansion of various Industrial Units in Laccadives ; .r~ 'fit ~if 'florr ~~ nT-f Iflf~lf ~ If ~ -l1JfIf Ifrf Jflfli f~ ~ ~ !f;T 'lfR 'fTorr (b) if so, Ihe delails Ihereof; and ~ ~lf it; IfI'llHfJfIf ~ ~~ o;rN;r. (c) if not, Ihe reasons Iherefor ? ~ I ,.."f!f;T 1!~lf ~ l f 11~ ~ f!f; ~. ,.,.'f'l'l1- f<:rr ~l ~ for~ ~~ ~fiff 'f'f "fJfl1 !f;T THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL iIf'f~ !f;T Iff t I ~ mm ~ r ~ ~Jf DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI rn 'l'<: 11m ~ f ~ "-<:l!T it f~ ~ffi F. A. AHMED): (al to (c). The in- t I formation is beina collected and it will be laid on the Table of the House. ("') ~ '!I'q 'l'<: <'rTt"\" ~ ~ ft"f~ 'fit ~ ~ f r~ ~~ ~~ ~ '1 f~ ~ ~ ~ ~fofuif 'IIiTf\:11T ~~!f 1 sr~ tl ~~ t 1\;; . 85. -ft ~ "" amft : ~ ~ I{\'t;rr;; it ~~ \IP1' 'l'<: ~ ~1mftf t. : ~ ~ ~ "1''''I!f;(ti ~ ~ I ~~~""' 121 Written Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKAl 122 ~ ~~.~ ~tll1ff : (I.!f) Iff~ ~t, ;:rT ~1J ifTt if ~'" nnrmr~ : 'ti~ If< ~ f'f~ f.r~ r ~, ~ "1'1 ,,)q sr~ ~ : ('1') ~1J Jf ~ if ~ 'ti"(T, ~ ~ IfIfT ~ lft ~ .",f.r 'tiT FTT IfllT ~ ? 'ti"~f.t .,~ nmTt ..Iff ,m ~ if :,q. ('ti") IfIfT ~ 1J'f ~ fIf; ~~ ~l ~ It'" ("T .l-m ~~ : ('ti) ~ ('1'). ;;rT<'fT f;m;:r lI'Jf~ if ~t~ " 'f"( 'f.~ fm' ~ m~ 'f.T 1fT'" ~ l'fJflf rt JfA if mrm'T 'f~~l'f lI'~ 'ti~ if ~~ .rn'frn ~ mr-r ~ ~ :t ~ ffilf>T"( J!TJfT ~ I ~f~'ti"lf l1' 'ti"T 1Jf 1 ~ ~ l'f~ " fltilfT f'f. ~m r i'fP.:fT fulf it; .r.r 'ti"T "T'irr f~ ~, f.rIf;c ~ '1' 'tiT 'tiTIf:t 1Jn r ~iH~ ~ I If<. ~'f" oq'T'fT"( ~ fiHi'fT"( 'f"( 'til'( f~ ( '1f) Iff;:- ~t, "'T ItJ!T 'fiJfT 'f.T ~ ~" I'fl'q;;; ortl ~m I f'f.<'l mfP.:flf>, f~ f ~ ~ T-T'ti"T ill'''T Ifll'T t ~ ~ 'f lf ;:rP.:fT i'fIf>lfTIfi't lJ~lf ' ~"' ~If ('1') !H~ ~ ~'H f" 'f.T;:-q ~ ~ffi mlfT'T fq'fm m 'tiT flff~ll' if f;;rit ,,1fT 'ti" l rr~ 'f.T ~ ? fi!;m 'TIfT fj'fl'f1f'T ~ ~ or ~ ~ ~ 'tii'ir I ~ mlfT'T ~ "il' fl ~ mu'f- .i~ """~ "'" 'f" ~~ ij lI''!'Tlf, ofl.!'i'Ii ~mtfir'f. '3'VIl1 i'fq'f 'f~ ~" ('IT.'l1ro 1'I~ ('f.) i; 0lfI'm it; fWffl: llHT l'fg'lfT'T ~ ~ ('T). 'f.f'f'l1f 'f:Jfl [HT ;;rT"f1 f'flffiT if f~~r.~ Ift'if'l'Tn: ~1f '! 'f.~ 'ftq'f ;pf ~ m If< W'f. ;;rrf'llfT if ~ If 'f.~ ~ f'!f;lfrf'lf1f 'ti~' I l'f%f1"fT, ~ I ,.-'1' m,T'l it; 'Tl';r."l' it ~t' 'f.T -rT " ~ ~ I ,·~" .. "~ ~.'m"" I'm.. ltroI'-fU'f ~ ~ r..m 87 . .t\ ~~ fq mf!IT : 86 ~~~~~ ~m~~ "liWt ~ IfTitmT : ,,1~ .•. ~ : ~~o ,"0 nlI1T: -n ImIflW ~ ~ tWfImIJ .~ : n~ ,,1 ft! ...... mp' ; IfllT .,tn ~ "' ,.m 1t,,1 ~ n,.!.~ ~~ I ~~flf : IfllT wn IIfPm ~ ,m If<'lIT ~ (If» IfllT ~ ~ ~ flf> W"I' it; uT{ IPrA 11ft FIT m fIf; ; ~~ 1~ 9 it ~ ~ 11ft lfI'fT. mr-r ~ If.T IfTl'T 9:U!f .n f.nmr • (If» IfllT ~ n t fIf; rolf • m( ~"t~~ .. ~ .,1J. ~ ~ n;ft ~ 11ft 'Il"I'VI' lfI'fT • mtor ~ :t IfT1f • lf1M'1' ~ ~ mr 1fT ; ~tuorit ~~.,. ~" ~ lIft ~ • m it m.r (w) m "t, "" ~ IfT\t ~ tim., IfllT "'"'" i!ltrr i m Wrlttell Allswers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrillell Allswers 124 ( If ) {Q' ~'t it '~ ~ lflfT fifl:!T1f Tlcketl_ Travel flfilrr t ? 89. SHRI MADHU L1MAYE : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to ~.tmr 1 'I1f ~ ft'f! ,rft"~ ili state: ~ '"'" ('11 "''1~1 1l'~ ("') i:r (a) the number of persons caught for (If). lQ' f'flllf q<: ~~~~ !J:I 11m! irregular travelling on Indian Railways during 1fT'!'! iii' Q'l! THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) 81, 17, 796 88. '11 ~ f~ : lflfT .~m. a ~ (b) Rs. 60, 53, 645 ~ ,m """I Ifil' iIf"Il't ,.;-,. F1T ",~it f", : (c) 79, 254 ('Ii) ~ If!! Q''Jl' ~ f", i!!"Wf !J:I Imports from Nepal through State i'flif 'Ii~ flf~, f.,.;:rit OI1Tl1lf 14 i!'>I1, Trading Corporation ~ 'liT1f 'Ii~ ~, rri'f ~'Ii ri ~ ,, ~ ~ 90. SHRI MADHU L1MAYE: Will ~ the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: (I!f) Iff~ i!f, i'f') {Q'iI;' "If1 'liTTl!T ~ ; (a) whether Government have received (rr) lflH ~fl 'li {if'li) t;fl;;r'r ~ r 'l'~ any suagestion, about the canalisation of exports of synthetic fabrics and stainless 'liTlflfl(T ~ \tf ~ : steel utensils etc. from Nepal into India through the state Trading Corporation to (,,) If~ ~t, (I') lflfT Q','liT<: 'liT fIR!, {if flf"!T (b) if so, the reaction of Government .." qtf.t fiflf'lll!T it ~"''' ~ if.f "'T ~ ? thereto? THE DFPUTY MINISTER IN THE 1If '~ "'" "~ '"' ~ t.tmr ,m ili MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND '"'" ('11 ..l,,~ U1l' m) : ('Ii) ~ (T). SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM '~ iii' 1fTQ' ~"l Jf!"!~ "I iii' ~ SEWAK): (a) Yes, Sir. ~~ ~'Ii l'f'TW! 2504 it flf<'!', fm (b) As a result of di5Cussion's held in 1f311' IFTIf ~ ~ it, 8 ~ 1968 ~ Kathmandu by the Indian Deleption led by ~ 11>'\ ~C 'frt 'Ii~ 3lA iii' 'liRl!T i!;{ Shri B. R. Bhapt, the Government of Nepal have qreed to I imit export of synthe- ~ t I {Q' ~ iii' ~ "" ~~ tic yarn fabrics and stainless steel manu- ~ iii' q-uq ~ f.~H fir;1ry ... T ~ ractures to the level of 1967-68, Ind further tlit~~~ 'Ift'f~ to restrict the allocation of foreian exclwlae q-t for production of these items to 1967-68 ~ rn qfnr ~ lf1n t I level. Ell'ectiveoess of the steps laken by 125 Writ/en Answ",rs MAGHA 29. 1890 (MKA) Written Answers 126 tbe H. M. G. of Nepal would be reviewed porations of India ; at the next meetina of tbe Inter-sovernmental Joint Committee and. if found necessary the (b) the number out of them which question of canalisina the imports throuah 8 have started functionina after beina taken suitable agency will also be considered. over: and MIs. Coope(Allen and Co. Ltd., Kanpur (c) the steps taken by Goverument to see that these textile Mills are taken over ·91. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: permanently ? SHHI CHINTAMANI PANIGARHI: SHRI CHENGALRA Y A NAIDU: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL: MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SHRI R. K. SINHA; SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM SHRI MRITUNJA Y PRASAD: SEWAK) : (a) None. Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE· (b) and (c). Do not arise. VELOPMENT. INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Taken over of the new Victoria Kanpur (a) whether it is a fact that MIs. Cooper MIIJ. Ltd. Allen and Co, Ltd., Kanpur one of the units of the British India Corporation has been 93. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the taken over by Government ; Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPL Y be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether it is likely to be run by a Department or by a Corporation; and (a) whether the New Victoria Mills Ltd; Kanpur has been taken over by the Textile (c) whether the shares of the Blliorias Corporation of India ; have been purchased by Government ? (b) if so, whether it has started funetion- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL ina: and DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (e) if not, the reasons for the delay? F. A AHMED: (a) Government have decided to take over the Cooper Allen and North THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE West Tannery Units of the British India MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND Corporation Limited. Kanpur. The actual SUPPL Y (SHRI CHOWDARY RAM take over of the units is expected to be SEWAK) : (a) No, Sir. completed shortly. (a) and (c). The qUOltion of appointment (b) A private limited Company in the of an Authorised Controller i. under con- public sector is beina formed to mallBF the sideration in consulation with the State lwo units. Government. Necessary steps to restart the mills will be taken after an Authorised (c) No, Sir. Controller il appointed. Textile Mills taken 0"" .." NatiOllaI ProdIIetIoa Ia H_", ~ .... Textile CorponotiD Corporatloa. R.. dol 92. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: 94. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: SHRI VAJNA DATT SHARMA: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE SHRI MAHARAJ SINGH BHARATI: AND SUPPLY be pleued to ltate : Will the Minill.r of INDUSTRIAL DE- (a) the DUmber of Textile mills which VELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND have beeD takeD owr by the TutiJe Cor- COMPANY AFFAIRS to be pleued to Itate; 127 rlt ~II Alls""rs FiBRUARY 18, 1969 Writ/eli AlIs",ers 128 (a) whether production has started in manUfacturing shops. Particular emphasis full swinl in the Heavy Engineering Corpo- has been given to early completion of the ration, Ranchi ; Foundray Forge Plant and there has been considerable improvement in the supply of (b) if not, the reasons for the delay; castings from this unit during recent months. aud A 90 day production drive was launched recently which produced very good results. (c) the steps taken by Govemm.nt to During this period, production in the Foun- improve its working? dry Forge plaut and Heavy Machine Buil- ding Plants, in particular, increased very THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE substantially. As a result of these efforts MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY which will be continued and intensified in ENGINEERING (SHRI K. c. PANT) : the coming months, it is expected that both (a) and (b). The Heavy Engineering praduction build-up and productivity in the Corporation Limited, Ranchi comprises Heavy Engineering Corporation would im- three plants, viz., the Heavy Machine Buil- prove substantially. ding Plant, Foundry Forge Plant and Heavy Machine Tools Plant units. These Plants National Instruments Ltd, Calcutta are in production and production build-up and productivity in these units is being 95. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the rapidly increased. As the gestation period Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, in respect of heavy engineering enterprises INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY of this nature is inovitably fairly long, it is AFFAIRS be pleased to state' expected that these plants will achieve full (a) whether the National Instruments capacity only over the next few yea... The Ltd., Calcutta is racting no-work problem; production figures for these three plants during 1967-68 and 1968-69 arc as follows :- (b) if so. whether there is any scheme to diversify production; 1967-68 1968-69 (April-Jan. 1969) (c) whether it is a ract that the Defence Ministry is likely to take over this Unit; and (i) Heavy Machine 14,611 tons 19,472_tons Building Plant (d) if so, when? (ii) Foundry ForI" 9,003 tons 13,392 tons Plant THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DE- (iii) Heavy Machine 15 Machines 5 Machines VELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND Tools Plant COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F.A.AHMED): (a) and (b), As the demand for the traditio- nal items of production of the Company (c) Various measures have been taken has fallen, the Company is embarking from time to time and are constantly under on a programme of diversificatioh of its review to increase productivity in these production. The proaramme envisaacs plauts and to achieve as accelerated a rate production of (i) traditional items restricted of production build-up as possible. A Dire- to saleable items only (ii) new items dev- ctor of Coordination has recently been eloped and already taken up for commercial appointed to ensure close liaison and co- production and (iii) items apinst Defence ordination between the Foundry Forse Plant orders. aDd the other two units. The production planninll units has been strcnathened and is (c) No, Sir. expected to Ih'e much better results in the (d) Does not arioe. future. Steps are beillll taken to make the IrainlllJ proarammc ",ore effective ~ if '!"" .row ft1II J:."- aDd particularly to cmphasi.e Irainlng 'T1Ift ~, ~ ..mn on the job and on the sophistlc,led heavy machlDc unit.. I~nti e ",herms 96. 11ft m. .t ~ .m: ,,1fT ~ are also heiDi Pl'OIt'esaively introduced aud have already ~n slarted iD some of the q',ft q: ;r;if.t If'I FfT rn til; : 129 MAGHA 29. 1890 (S'AKA) rlll~n II '~rs 130 ~ ro ~ ~ ~ fit; rl'1lli!!' ~ SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : SHRI UMANATH : f~ mR1T<:, 7ffi. m~, (f1fT OOu ~ ~'f.i ' 'I'f~ lff'ff~"f 'J~ fif~ , Will Ihe Minisler of INDUSTRIAL ~ lf~~ ~ri 'fi'lfT (110 'l:'rq ~~ f~ (b) and (e). Since Ih. Corroration h .. revised Ihe scale of ray of only Assistant ~ 'lfh ("f). '!~, ,i 97. SHRI SATYA NARAIN SINGH: (b) if 10, the DameI of memben of the SHRI MOHAMMAD ISMAIL : dclepliOD; 131 Wrlt/e" A"swers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Writ/ell Allswers 132 (c) the subjects discussed in the confere- Stratcsy of Intqrated Regional Co-operatioD nce and the outcome thereof; deciding inter-alia to set up a Council of Ministers of the ECAFE region to adopt and (d) the reaction of Government thereto; implement specific programmes and projects of economic co-operation in the field of trade (e) whether any trade agreement was including regional preferences. investments concluded; and transport and communications etc. (f) if 50, the likely earning of foreign (d) Government of India welcome the exchan&e thereby? decision and intends to play its due role in the Council of Ministers. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (e) and (f). Yes, Sir. A Trade Agreement AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY with Thailand was concluded on the 13th RAM SEWAK) : (a) Yes, Sir. December. 1968. This is likely to assist in the expansion of Indo-Thai trade. (b) The names of the members of the Indian Delcption are.s follows:- Second Industrial Estate at Bangalore I. Shri K. B. Lal, Secretary, Ministry of 99. SHRI GADILINGANA GOWD Commerce. Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- LOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND 2. Shri K. R. Narayanan, Ambassador, COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : Embauy of India, Bangkok. (a) whether it is a fact that the Mysore 3. Shri B. D. Jayal, Joint Secretary, Government have submitted a proposal to Ministry of Commerce. start a second industrial estate on the out- skirts of Bangalore; 4. Shri K. R. P. Singh, Joint Secretary, Ministry of External Affairs. (b) whether it is also a fact that more than 8S applications are pending with Govern- ment nom t he anxious entrepreneurs for the S. Shri J. L. Malhautra. Counsellor and last several years; Permanent Representative of India to ECAFE, Embassy of India, Bangkok. (c) if so. the details thereof; 6. Shri K. G. Vaidya, Director, Ministry (d) the reasons for the delAY; and of Commerce. (d) the steps taken in this reprd ? 7. Shri A. S. Sethi, Under Secretary, Ministry of Commerce. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE 8. Shri K. S. Ramanathan, Information AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. Officer attached to the Ministry of AHMED) : (a) to (e) The information is beinl Commerce. collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (c) The Conference reviewed the prop-ess on the recommendations of the Fint and DIrector, Illdlall Studutls IlIstitatioll Second Ministerial Conferences, considered the actioD prOll'amrnes for further co-opera- 100. SHRI GADILINGANA GOWD lion 1D aelectcd fields and dhcussed the Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- ItratCIY ror intCIRted development of retio- LOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND ..&1 co-oparation in Asia. COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state : The moat important outcome of the Con- (a) whether the atteDtion of GoverDmellt ler,~ W&I the adoptjoll of A Resolution 011 bas been drawu to the speech delivered by 133 Writ/err A/lSw ..rs MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) 134 the Director of the Indian Standards Institu- ment of another Farm has been approved by tion on the 3rd January, 1969 in New Delhi the Department of AlI'iculturc in January, on "Standardisation and the common man"; 1969. Other measures for increasilll Allaora Wool production in the country arc also (b) whether it is a fact that Government under consideration. The existing production have refused to adopt certain standards about of Alllora Wool in the country is considered books and papers; adequate to meet the present demand for such wool. (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and Saney of Dandakannya and Sam_lpur (d) the reaction of Government on the BolanaJr Areas sugestions given by the Director of the Indian Standards Institution? 102. SHRI CHINTAMANT PANI- GRAHl : Will the Minister of STEEL, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL MINES AND METALS be pleased to DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE stale : AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. AHMED) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a I Whether arrangement have been made (or undertakinll maanetometrie surveys of (b) No. Dandakaranya and SambaJpur Dollllli. areas with the assistance of U. S. S. R. for (c) and (d). Do not arise. locatina base metal deposits; Import of Angora Wool (b) Whether any final decision has been taken by Goverment in this connections; IOJ. SHRI GADlLlNGANA GOWD: and Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: (c) if 50, the nature of decisions taken thereon? (a) whether it i. a fact that import of Angora wool has been stopped by Govern- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND ment; CHEMICAL AND MINES AND METALS (DR. TRIGUNA SEN) : (al to (c). Neaotiatlons (b) if '0, the amount of foreign e~c an e for undertakinll aeromagnetic survey of Dan- likely to be saved anually as a result thereof; dakaranya and Sambalpur Dolanair areas with the assistance of U. S. S· R. are still In (c) whether Government propose to meet proaress. the demand of Angora wool by way of e~ a nsion of production in the country; and Lou Due to Reduct"'" In Ellporl Dutl. on Jute, Ra" Cottoa and Iron ore (d) if so, the details thereof? T_, 103. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE GRAHl : Will the Minister of FOREIGN MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to SUPPL Y (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM state: SEWAKI: (a) Yes, Sir. (al the total 1011 suft'ered by Gown!- (b) In 1966-67, an import licence for R,. ment u a result of the reductiOll In the ex· 88,000'. was issued for import of ADaora port duties on tea, Jute, raw cotton and iron Wool. By stoppilll ir. import there is likely ore so far; and to be a savina of foreilD achalllC every year more or leas of this lDIpIitude. (b) the extent to which export eanWIp _ mcr.aed from tea, jute raw cottoa and (c) aDd (d). There is at ~ aD Aqora il'Oll ore • a result of reduction ill export RabbIt lIreediDt Fum at Kulu. The eIabIiIb- duties 10 far ? 135 Written A_rs FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Written A",_s 136 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) what is the idle capacity in th_ MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND machine buildillJ industries in the COUDtry; SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM and SEWAK): (a) and (b). The information is beina collected and will be placed on the (c) what is the amount of money that Table of the House. is being spent annually for importins such machinery and spare parts for these indult· ries 1 Stair benefit Flllld In Kbarda 01.151011 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL 104. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI· DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL TRADE GRAHl: Will the Minister of RAILWA YS AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. be pleased to state : AHMED): (a) to (c). The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table (a) the amount available from the staff of the House. Bc:nefit Fund for education of children and ~ ~ f f~ 'f ~'l 'f.~'~ staff in the Khurda Division of the South Eastern Railway in 1968-69 ; m) t~. fqm ~.,. RlliT\'S f8QT ~ (b) the number of applicants for the same; °106. -.TI ~ f1f'l : lilT r"' ... lliPl'f : (c) the number of children ahd staff benefited from this fund ; and W ~ l'f..,ft Il'~ ~f.f ~' 'F1T ~it f~ (d) the reasons why adequate amount is not being made available from this Fund ~ W ~ !J~ ~ f~ ' 'fm~ ~ iii so that a large number of students and staff ~ r ~~ ·'f~~ nl1' f ~~~'f ~ ~!f 'Il' could be benefited ? ~I" rr fqqu ~ i ~ 't"l'if 'fr~ ~ f~ 6 ,.,-'fCIiT, 1969 '!1t f'l'lIm'I' <'f') ITf 11ft; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) to (d). The ~ Il'f~ ~, iI) w f~~l'f. information is being collected from the South m ~ ~f 'EfC'fT ~ Eastern Railway and will be placed on the gt 11ft; Table of the Sabha. (IT) qq;:J1ft ~ ~ iIlIfT ~ ~ ~ it; 1¥t w ~lf ~'t ~'t ITt t ? Idle Capacity In Macblne Bulldlnll Industries ~~ ("'0 ~,.,f (iii) f ~1 105. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI : SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL : ~ f ~" ' I SHRI RAGHUVIR SINGH SHASTRI: (IT) ~ ~ ~Il'l'f """ 'fro SHRI D. N. PATODIA : 126 it; q;:CI1Tcr ~ ~ ~, ~ ~ 7.\.1969 If) l:fT1f (a) Whether it is a fact that ioordinate Iado-MaJa,IiIIn Industrial ~ delays take place in the collection and pro- cessing of foreign trade statistics, which 109. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH MAHIDA: affect adversely the policy-making by DR. KARNI SINGH: Government ; and SHRI NARAIN SWARUP SHARMA: SHRI RAM SWARUP VlDYARTHI: (b) if so, the action proposed to be KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI : taken to remove the delays ? SHRI OM PRAKASH TYAGI : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE- MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND VELOPMENT,INTERNAL TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: SEWAK): (a) and (b). The time-Iagc in India for the complilation of foreign trade THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. (b) tbe amount of foreign excbaoac RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (al Yes, there is spend on the import of raw diamonds dur- a scheme to undertake manufacture of nar· ing tbese years ; and row gauge diesel locomotive at the Chittaran· jan Locomotive Works. (c) Whether the National Mineral DevciopmeDt Corporations proposes to (b) docs not arise. extend its mining operations to otber pro- misioa areas of the country to step up the production and export of diamonds ? (cl and (d). It has bccD planocd 10 pro- vide 10 narrow gauae diesel locomotives for tbe narrow gauge sections on replacement THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE account during the 5 yean' period from MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND 1969-70 to 1973-74 by manufacture in the SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM CbittaraD,jan Locomotive Works. SEWAKl: (al and (b). The export. of 139 Writ/en AlUwers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrillen Answers 140 finished diamonds and imports of roughs ( 'If) IRT f~ lfWlf ~~ ~ ~l'fif fori!' during the last three years have been as !f;Tt ~~ ~ ~ follows :- Iff~ ~t, ~l ~ Exports Imports (tT) cry "I<:!f;T<: ;a'if ~tcrlfi'l !~~ (Rs. lakhs) (Rs. lakhs) m 1965-66 745 31 ~ 1fQ"T f'flffif GlfTlfl<: !f;) ~ ~ 1966-67 1124 142 1967-68 1572 441 fori!' f'f.l'i?,T ifqT llf01'll'T !f;T 'liT.,- If.T ITH ? (e) Yes, Sir. .m.~ 1if11m !'I'" "f!'! If""'"' if 'I'ml, "mt!'l'fl "",,",'\IS,, m\IST I"'''~ ('1'T 'Iil'htu ~ "~ : (!f;) .,,' ~'''' fiflficr otrT'lT<: if ,!f~ "'~ ~ foro: "I~~ 111. "T I~ ~mf : ifT<:T f",o: ITO: ;a''lTlfT ;rfl O:!f; ~ "")!f; l:!'I1T it 18 "i~cru, 1969!f;) ~ ""I~ ,~ "'T §o 10 !'If ~ : "' ~~~ qcrntflt;cr 1I~ ~o 182 ~ '3m: if "1'111- If'!"" ~ ~l1f orr ~ ~ I IfIfT ", ,~, ~ ""T ~ 11'')[1 If~ ~of.f ~ 1f'lT ~it f!f; : (.... ql<: IT ). If;f'flflf 00 ij; "Ir~ f lf~tC ~,! ~ ifrt if f;r.it ~ !f ~ if; (Ifi) 1fQ"T tr.fiI ~. ~ crill qnl"HTf<:r Qfcrn:ffi 'I11<:'f lfil f'flfY'f lf lf ~ 'I1T<: (Ifi) ifill f~ ~1~ it ,f4 Ifi ~ (Ifi) 1fQ"T l !~n ~ m ~ ..-R • ft=A ~~ !fiT Ifi)t ;:A' ~ m !fiT "Iflfftf ~ ~ ~ QT1TT'{ ~ ~ ;:A' smr~ t; ~ fif;it t; 141 rilt~n ns ~rs MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) 142 (Ilf) srfd"~ it ~~e r m if; forif ~!J Truder of Prlv.te Sector Indastrl.fEstabllsh lDeats on the list of D. G. T. b. ~ ' ~ flI;;r OlffTliIfT ~ forRt Art SlJk Weaving Industry if so, the particulars thereof and the action taken so far; and 116. SHRIMATI ILAPALCHOUD- HUR.I: Will the Minister of FOREIGN (c) whdth er it is also a fact that in the TRADE AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: past, Government encouraged more production even if it exceeded the licensed capacity so (a) whether the art silk weaving indus- 10118 as it did not involve spending more try has represented to Government to about foreign exchange ? their difficulties in getting viscose filament or rayon yam at reasonably economic prices ; THE MINISTER OF INDSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE (b) if so, the main features of the re- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. presentation ; and AHMED) : (a) One of the conditions stipu- lated in the licences issued under the (c) the action Government propose to Industries (Development and Regulation) take in the matter ? Act, 1951 is that no section of the industrial undertaking should have, except with prior THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE approval of the Government of India, capa- MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND city substantially in excess of that specified SUPPL Y (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM in the Licence. Also according to section SEWAK) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The Industry I3 (1) (d) of the Act, no owner of an indus- has represented against the monopolistic ten- trial undertaking shall etrect any substantial dencies of a few spiMers who have pushed expansion of a licensed/registered industrial up the prices of viscose filament yarn. The undertaking except under: and in accordance industry has asked Government to arrange with a licence issued in that behalf by the for the equitable distribution of the yarn to Government. However, with a view to the cODSumers direct at reasonable prices. boosting production and ensuring fuller utilisa- tion of installed capacity, Government have (c) The Taritr Commission who were from time to time relaxed licensing procedure already enquiring into the cost structure of the wherever considered necessary. Industrial man-made fibre industry has been asked to undertakings have accordingly been given free- submit an interim report on viscose filament dom to increase their production up to 25 '.'u yarn pricse. Corrective measures, if any caUed of their licensed/registered capacity provided that no additonal plant equipment (except for, will be considered on receipt of the said report. minor balancing equimpment procured indi- genously) i. installed and no additional expendi ture of foreign exchqe is incurred. 1_ of Industrial LIcences 117. SHRI N. D. PATODIA : Will the (b) The matter regarding action to be Minister of IDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, taken in cases of industrial undertakings INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY building up capacities far in excess of the AFFAIRS be pleased to state : capacities licensed to them specially where substantial imported equipment has been (a) whether it is a fact that at the time added or where expansion was based on of issue of industrial LiOCDCC, Government imported raw material., is under the consde- indicate in any liCCIICe the capacity of produ- ration of the Governmcut. ction ; if so, whether such capacity is only of the nature of an indication or whether it (c) The Government did eru:ouraac more PlCYCIlts the liceDCCbolder from produciDa prodUction even if it exceeded the licenaed more thaD the capacity Iiceosed; capacity so 10111 as tbis did not involve spen- ding of more foreian exchaDae but tbis rela- (b) whether Government have recently xation did not permit addition to productioll indieatod tbat they propose to ulc for ex- capacity of the industrilll undertakings throuah plaDation from those induatrial Units woo.e instal1atlon of additional plant and ow:hInery productioo e¥CICded the Iicenaed capKity; uDIea an expa.nsion IiCCllCC was lint obtained. rlrr~n nJ ~rs MAGHA 29, 1890·(S.. 4KA) rlrr~n l ~rJ 146 ForeIlIJI Know-How held any discussion. with any non-GovcrlllDftlt °118. SHRI D. N. PATODIA : bodies out. ide tbis seminar. SHRI P. C. ADICHAN : (e) No, Sir. Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE Release of R.llw.y .ploY.1 wbo AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to participated In Itrlke state: 119. l> .... RI D. N. PATODIA : (a) whether it is a fact that a delesation Sh lU JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI: of the Confederation of British Industry he- SHR' S. S. KOTHARI: aded by Sir Norman Kipping visited this country recently and held di..:ussions with SHRI SURAJ BHAN : Government more particulary with regard to SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: the latest thinking of Government in the SHRI BRI} BHUSHAN LAL : matter of purchase of foreign know-how; SHRI ONKAR SINGH: SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACHWAI (b) if so, the date of visit of the dele- SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI: gation to India and the name of members of tbe delegation and of the Ministers who paJlicipated in the discussions; Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to state : (c) whether the delegation held discussions with non-Government bodies; (a) whether it is a fact that Government have since taken a decision to relcue Railway (d) the reaction of the delesation in employees who had been suspeadod/prOlCCu- regard to purchase of foreign know-how and ted for participation in the token Itrike on whether the thinking of Government has the 19th September, 1968; undergone a change since the visit of the delesation ; (b) whether all the employees who h.d been suspended or prollCCuted have beea (e) whether there was any observation covered by the Release Order; or crrticism from any other country with reprd to their thinking in the matter of (c) if so, the number of employen who forcipl know how; and have rot been released .0 far; and (f) the list of observations made by the delcption and the reaction of Government (d) whether Government purpose to thereto; take a lenient view for these employOCl also aDd take a favourable decision 100ft ? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) No 1IIItructl0lll have been F. A. AHMED) : (a) Yes, Sir. iuued in regard to the relcue of Rdway employees faciDs prOllCCution eitber under the (b) (d) aDd (f). A Note containinll provilion of the Essential Servi_ MaintClWlCe diseuuloas held by the Deleption witb the OrdiaDClC/Act or under any other law. How- Government of ladis is laid on the Table of ever, instructJOIIII have bcen Iuued tbat em- the HOuse. (Placed in library. ~~ ployees foUDd auil1y only under SectIClll 4 of No. LI- lJ 1691. the Essential Servica MainIeDUllle OrdJrwa/ Act .-d not be visited with aay further (e) The deleption attended a seminar peaaIty except that the period DC their a .... on "lotCl'llltional IovestIDCDt in ladia" or- should be treated U I break in.....tee. 10 pnised jointly by the Indiall N.tional regard to lhe em l~ dealt with de!*t- Committee 0( the Ioternatiollal Cbamber of mmtally aDd IIIIPCDdcd or diIcIIarJDd 1ImI- Commen:c aDd the lodIaII IDwItmcDt CeuIrc. lu1y Cor _ ~ oa 19th SepIImbor GCMnllDnlt it DOt...... iC the delepdoa 1961, they are 10 be dIIaIl willi ~ by 147 Writ/ell Answers FEB,RUA,RY 18, 1969 Writ/ell AlISwers 148 beiaa takeD back to duty with a break-in- utilisation of capacities of various units in- service. cluding those of the Heavey Engineering Cor- poration, Mining and Allied Machinery Cor- (b) As indicated in answer to part (al, poration and Hcavy Electrical Project at only those· employees would be covered by Hardwar? the instructions referred to therein as were merely absent from work on 19th September THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1968. The instructions do not cov r those MINISTR Y OF STEEL AND HEAVY employees who had committed other offences ENGINEERING (SHRI K. C. PANT) : besides mere absence from wor" on 19th (al Yes, Sir. September 1968. (b) and (c). The discussions covered a (c) 4068 employees have not SO far wide range of issues relating to these projects. been taken back to duty. These included inler alia the likely order position of these plants and measures for full (d) As cases are individually reviewed utilisation of capacity, together with the steps in accordance with the instructions referred necessary for bringing about rapid increase to in the answer to part (a), some more em- in production and productivity in these plants ployees are likely to be taken on duty in due apart from certain specific issues concerning course. particular undertakings including a re-exami- nation of their capital structure. A statement RUilian Deleptlon for Improving Projects was made in the Lok Sabha on the 19th December, 1968 indicating the nature of dis- 120. SHRI D. N. PATODlA : cussions with the Soviet Delegation and the SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI: conclusions arrived at. SHRI RANJIT SINGH: SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN LAL : SHRI RAM GOPAL SHALWALE (d) Fairly detailed discussions were held SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPA YEE : regarding full utilisation of capacity of these SHRI BHARAT SINGH CHAUHAN: plants in the context of the likely order SHRI GADlLlNGANA GOWD : position for metallurgical, mining and heavy SHRI S. S. KOTHARI: electrical equipment during the next few years. A final picture in this regard would, however, emerge only after the fourth plan is finalised. Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL Nevertheless, it was considered that consider- DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE able diversification of manufacture would be AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to necessary. particularly in the case of the state: Mining & Allied Machinery Corporation and the Hcavy Electrical Project at Harowar. The (al whether it is a fact that a Russian details in this regard would be worked out Delegation headed by Mr. Skachkov visited by expert groups. India recently and discussed with various Ministries with regard to improvement in the workilJi of various Russian-aided Projects in Advisory Committee of National TutU. lDdia; Corporation (bl if so, the gist of such discussions 121. SHRI D. N. PATODIA : and the broad recommendations made by the SRHI CHENGALRA Y A NAIDU : Russian Deleption for improving these SHRI P. M. SA YEED projects; SHRI MANIBHAI J. PATEL: (c) whether it is also a fact that amolljlSt other proposals capital structure of these Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE projects was suaaested to be substantially AND SUPPLY be pleased to state : cban&ed and revised; and (al the broad rocommendatiollS recently (d) tbe specific proposals discussed with made by the Advioory Committcc of tbe reprd to .the improvement in the under- National Textile Corporation with reprd to 149 Writ/eli Answers MAGHA 29, 18'10 (SAKA) Written Answers 1~ the revival of the working of 40 textile mills Economic Relations, a protocol was siped in various parts af the country which are on between the two Governments on various the verge of closure; measures to increase the efficiency of some of the plants set up in this country, with Soviet (b) whether these recommendations credit. One of the clauses in the protocol have duly been considered; and relates to the supply of certain additional equipment to complete the first stage of tbe (c) if so, which of them have been Bokara Steel Plant as early as possible. accepted or implemented ? (b) No, Sir. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND (c) and (d) Do not arise. SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHAR Y RAM SEW AK) : (a) A statement is laid on the Recommends tIonl of Sarkar C-'II_ table of the House. [Placed in Librar)'. on Steel Transaction. See No, LT-14 1681. 123. SHRI R. BARUA : (b) and (c). These and other measures SHRI N. R. LASKAR : to give relief to the cotton textile industry have been under consideration of the Govern- SHRI A. SREEDHARAN : ment and action is being taken as and when SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : feasible. SHRI YAJNA DATI SHARMA: Dr. SUSHILA NAY AR : Bokaro Steel Plant Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES 122. SHRI R. BARUA : AND METALS be pleased to state: SHRI N. R. LASKAR : (a) whether the recommendationa of the Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL Sarkar Committee which enquired into cer- DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE tain steel tran~actions have been implemCll- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to ted; state: (b) if so, how many persons, who were (a) whether it is a fact that India and found responsible, have been punished ; U.S.S.R. have signed a protocol in regard to the timely supply of essential equipment to (c) what was the punishment awarded to complete the first stage of the Bokaro Steel them; Plant in time; (c) whether comments on the char.. (b) whether Government have failed on spinst the othCJ officials, which bad been two major issues in obtaining definite com- referred to the Vi,i1ance Commiuion, bave mitments from the U.S.S.R.; been received back; and (ej if so, the Commission's viewl about (c) if so, the issues on which accord them? could not reach; and THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND (d) the reasons for failure? HEAVY ENGINEERING (C, M. POONA- CHA : (a) to (ej. The recommendations of THE MINiStER OF STATE IN THE the Sarkar Committee have been accepted MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY vide the Government of Indis, Ministry of ENGINEERING (SHRI K. C. PANT: Steel Mines, and Metals, Resolution No, S C (a) On the conclusion of the visit of a (11)-14 (3) 68 dated 10th May, 1968. Depart- Soviet deleption headed by Mr. S. A. mental action is beina taken apinst ufficiala Skachkov, Chairman State Committee of the held respolISible for lapses and lICIIIipDcc, in U.S.S.R, Council of Mlniston for Fom,n accordance with the relevant service rula and B1 W,ltlen AlUwers FEBR-UARY 18, 1969 Writ/en AlUwers 152 fCIII1ations, aDd wherever necessary in con- sultation with the Central Vigilance Com- mission. All the cases referred to the Central ViailllllCC Commission have been received back. 125 ,","!.,,~~ l ~ The Central Vigilance Commission have re- ~ commended in the case of two officers (SjShri If'JIT ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ft!1 r ~ Ifi'nf ~ '11; II qq m.fT ~sr" I'f If~ I!iT ~ ~~ ~ , ~~ ~l!1f m f~ ;itf f~r ~ llf'q II'~ 1!i ~~ ~ II' f~ 'fT j Iffl ~ a, lrf~ ~ on: ~ ~it if r...~ I!iTWf ..". GfT ~ ~ , (w) ~ ~~ IfIl '«fT ~ fll' '3'ffi llilf"!'Tfr ::t ~ ifq"l' {I'f ~ nT ~ .",-RlR ~..... (n. n. f. ,.~ ~ flli ~ mrr it; f lli ~m IliT r~ it; tmT<'! ~ it pn: ~r.rr ~ 126. '" '"!if"" ~ ~ tn'j ~ ~ri I:f'Jit ~ ;rnA Ii'lT lliT ~i't A; : (If) ~ ~' IR: rrr~ IfIl ~ (iii) ~ ~~n lliT ~ '«fT ~ flli ifr...~~~ ~~ IfIl ~ ~ mr '!~1 1li ~ 'q<'f-fuIliZ (a> whether it is a fact tbat there il a proposal to connect Gorakhpur by broad (IT) ~ ~ ~ it; qrlfn ..uP; and on: ~ it Ifi'nf rn it; ~ ~ fiflif ;;ffit t , (b) if so, the protP'- made 10 far? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. nm mtlf ~ II n qwR m.n RAM SUDHAO SINOH): (a) and (b). A ~ '" .,. .,. f. rm mrr '"'" proposal to conuect Gorakhpur by broad "UjIC by convertilll the M. G. lines from 127. ~ ~ 11ft '"!'If fq : Varanui (MaDduadih) to Gorakhpur via ml f'Jit~. m~""'tm'mflli Dbatni, and Barabanki to Oorakhpur via Goada with an additional broad PU8C !iDe (II') ro q" t til; 2 ~, bet_ Barabanki and Gonda) ia UIIder 1968 I!iT qIII' ",,-m If'6'n it ~ ~identi . Preliminary ~ cum Wrltte" A"Jw,s FEBRUARY 18, 1969 I~ Traffic Surveys for this scheme have already (b) No, Sir. been sanctioDed and ase in proaress. A de- cisign on the actual conversion of these metre (c) Government have not received any puae lines will be taken after the surveys are complaint in this regard. completed and the survey reports examined by the Railway Board. Reporl of Committee on Bouro Steel Plaul Fool overbrldlle and Island plalform al Ananadnallar slallon 131. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN 129. DR. MAHADEVA PRASAD: Will SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: the Minister of RAILWA YS he pleased to SHRI JAGESHWAR YADAV : state : SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI (a) whether it is a fact that a foot over- DR. RANEN SEN: bridae and an island plat form were sanctied SHRI BRU BHUSHAN LAL : for Ananadnapr Railway station on the SHRI RANJIT SINGH: North Eastern Railway; and SHRI SURAJ BHAN : (b) if so, the prollress made in rellard SHRI RAM GOPAL SHALWALE : to these works ? SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (a) These works were only programmed and not sanctioned. Will the Minister of STEEL. MINES AND METALS be pleased to refer to (b) In view of the low level of traffic the reply given to Unstarred Question No. and difficult ways and means position the 222 on the 12th November. 1968 and state: execution of these works has been stayed for the present. (a) whether the Committee on Bokaro Steel Plant has submitted its report ; El(port of Ca.be.. nuh to U. S. S. R. (b) if so. the main recommendations 130. DR. MAHADEVA PRASAD: Will contained in the report; and the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPL Y be pleased to state: (e) the decisions taken thereon (a) the names of the countries to which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE India exports cashew nuts ; MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY (b) whether it is fact that the Soviet ENGINEERING (SHRI K. c. PANT) : Union is the .reatest importer of cashew (a) No. Sir. The Committee i. OXpec- nutl from India; and ted to submit its report shortly. (e) wheler it i. also a fact that the (b) and (c). Do not asi... Soviet Union has been re-exportms the im- ported cashew nuts to hasd currency areas Dlstrlblllloa of Art Silk Yam to earn hard currencies ? 132. SHRI YAJNA DATTSHARMA: THB DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPL Y SHRI CHOWDHR Y RAM AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: SEWAK) : (a) A statement is laid on the Table of the House. (Placrd I" Library. ~~ (a) whether is is a fact that towards the Ntl. LT I' 169]. eIld of the )'Ill 1968, arti6ciaI scuaty IS7 MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKAI Wrltun AlISwers was created by the monopolist spinners of of art silk yam who had arbitrarily raised the prices of yam ; 133. '" i~m ~"""', (b) if so, whether it is also a fact that ~ ,,'n ~ f~ Ii~ ~ ~ li'fT ~ in view of this 6S percent units in Amritsar f~ had to be closed down ; (c) the names of the top ten monopolist (II» 'fliT l1 ' t~ it fll ~ lTit ~im! spinners of art silk yam with the percentage ~ ~t ~~ ~"f a''fT !1!f'f r''1'~'fl it; of total yam given to each one of them; ~ II>T ~ <'fITT ~ IIfh (d) whether Government propose to distribute yarn to the weavers directly through their associations with a view to safeguard the interest of small entrepreneurs as has been done in the case of woollen weaving ~f,"",!t1f ~" 1If~ ~ ~ "'!I and shoddy weaving industry; ~ . fl '~ (11)) 1Ifh: "' .1t ~~ 'l;l;ftQI'r-f ~~ ~f'f t ~ ~ ~I it ~ (e) if so, when; and ~ it fll>it ITit ~ l!J' '" ~ ~~. morT (0 if not, the reasons therefor ,,"~ IIfIifIl , '!'fT '1'~ "h 1l1ToIT;;r IIfIiflli ~ ~ ' f~li ~ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 11>1 lI>T'fil JfT'lTT it MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND 'l (c) The name of the spinners who manu- Ifmn'k : 11~~ it ~'f~ !!' it; facture viscose filament rayon yam and f'fWr 'fT'fT "",);;fRr, W'TfT, ~~~f1~ their share in total production during m January-November 1968 arc indicated be- ~~ f;;r.rt it m .mt ~ I smf~ low:- f;r{tall!Tf it ~mm ~ t:'f f.:riti'T If,t 1fnfT· f~ ~ Jf~ ~ l'fIT'Ifl'T 570 I'Il1l' Name Percen tage share to f~~ ~ 'fll> IT't ~r 1If~r f ~ I m ~ total production ~~ f~ if; ~ f'f&Tit 1If1ri~ (I);n- 1Ifh: Iifttn ~ ~ ~ ~ I. National Rayon 24.8S f'Tf, (2) 2. Century Rayon 29.26 .. ~f1 f If,\' ~ ' -urnQ'f I!i\ fQ' 3. Kesoram Rayon 12.0S ~'t it; f~ fl{fIf" it IIflfIf rm f.:rU'"!I' 4. South India Viscose 8.20 fiI;1n lfln I 1II'¥TfIJ'lf:ro;n:Q' ' f~f~ S. J. K. Rayon 7.33 90 m 115 l'mI' ~ z;r t I 6. Tranvancore Rayon 4.00 7. Baroda Rayon 8.0S m.n: ~ it; f;m: ~ ro'I' 8. Indian Rayon 6.26 ~ ~ l ~'f .~ 1Iff1flli IIIllIT .. ~ .. f.:rWql ~ ~ t I ~ fd it (d) to (f). There i. al preICDl no ltal- "f 1fTit ~~, 1fOO, IIIlJrtt,~, utory distribution conlrol on viocose rayo it yarn. The Tariff Commiuion are .Indy ~m ~ 1Ifh: ~ '"it eDquirilll in lhe 0011 structure of the rayon mf'{ it; fll'1fi?: ~ m 11ft ~ IJft yam induslry. O>nective "-UI'CI, if any I -mf Ilff~ !If called for, will be taken afta' roceipt of lhe IT( ..n 1fTit it 14,000 npon of tbe CommiuioII. 1Ift~1Jft~~ ... ~tl FABRUAJlY 18, 1969 Written AMlI'ers 160 ~ ", : 'lm",frlf W'mr.r ~~ ~~ it Wmf, f~lft 1fro, m- 1m!)' mT rn:r ' ~ , ~ r ~ ffuf~ ~, q);n, ~ 'A'R: f 1fCf~, m f~ t l'f~ !Iflf<:'l\' 'liT 'lftor 'liT lft I ~ liffi'f>TT iii f'fGf'1T '" ~ '1OT <'f1TT1fT 'TIfT ~ 'Il'InU f3f1'l'! it f'f~ ""~ , mlT"fT ~ I ~, f~ , '1T'1"flff'-T ' ~~ ~ ~ rr, t f.r <'fI!1'it ~m ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ If;) m I~ "'" "1I'~ ',""m ," ('" ~ m if~ if.lf ~ ; ~ : ~ ~ (tT), ~ru l~ 11ft ~ ~ Q'n: ~~ ij"I1"f 'fa"Of 'f~ ~ ~ (_) Ifqf ~ lit " ~ f~ f'f~ ~ t Iff.t;r) ~ ~ ~1 ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~cr.r ~, f'f~ ~Ji~ ~ f~ ~~ f~if ;;nit ~""' ltif"", t; 137, "'~1I'1"i ( tT ) , lff~ ~, If) Ifqf f If mif it '~ '" '"1"" fq ~ron : 'f~ ffiifT ~ lf~'I m ~ Il ~ ~ '" ~ ""': lfiT fcr.m: ~ Q"h Ifl .tt~ fqm, omr IQTlm ('<) llf~ ~ 0) f ~ 1f'IT ~n ~ "'" ~ III11i JflfT ~ lfm- 11ft FfT ~ '/ ~itf'fi ~ litft ~o U1I' ~" ~ : (If;) ~ Ifqf!ill: ~ ~ f'fi .,.~ olfi Of', ::rtf ; Q')v)fulf> f~lfi 'f lfiT ~~ t. ~ f:;n:rr (< (tT) ~ ::rifT ' '~~ I (< It1t Iff ~ I ~~ I!iT trfi ~ ~ (a) the time schedule for the construction of a Railway line from CUUack to Paradeep ~ if ~11cf fllilfT ~ ~ ~ I r~1Ii Port; and ...'tft '~nr ~ ~ ~ tflf ~ IliT ~ ~ ~ ~ «n: ~ 1liR- ~ iff qmWr!fi (b) whether possession of the land for the purpose of construction has been Biven ~~~ I~ ~'f fl1cf ~ tft ~ 'ffl<: if to the railway authorities? w ~if ~ m l ~cmr f r~ if '1ft ~ tft, ~ ~ l I'IIi f ~ ~~ I THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) The line is likely to be completed by the end of 1971. Hlnduilin Steelworks Construction Ltd. 138. SHRI A. SREEDHARAN : (b) The entire land required for this project has not yet been handed over to the SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : Railways. SHRI PREM CHAND VERMA: Expenslon of Alloy Steel Plant Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND METALS be pleased to state: 140. SHRI SRADHAKAR SUPAKAR (a) whether Government have made an SHRI KAMESHWAR SINGH: assessment of the working of the Hindustan SHRI GANESH GHOSH: Steel Works Construction Ltd. durinll the SHRI P. P. ESTHOSE : last three years; SHRI K. RAMANI : SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : (b) if so, the nature of irregularties found during the same period; and Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND METALS be pleased to refer to the (c) the nature of action taken in this replies Biven to Unstarred Questions Nos. 213 resard? and 291 on the 12th November,1968 and state' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether any final deoision for the MINISTR Y OF STEEL AND HEAVY evpansion of Alloy Steel Plant at Durppur ENGINEERING (SHRI K. C. PANT) : has sinoe been taken ; (a) Government are keepina a close watch over the performance of Hindustan (b) if so, the details thereof; Steelworks Construction Ltd. as of other Public Sector undertakings. Government's (c) the total expenditure involved and review of the annual performance of the the foreiShn exchan .. component thereof; Company is also placed on the Table of the House. The undertakins is functioning effici· (d) whether the report of M!s. Dastur ently and economically and has declared & Co. on market survey of various catc- divident at 15% for the years 1965·66, 1966- 1I0ries of alloy and special steel demand in 67 and 1967·68. the country has been examined ; (b) No irresularities have been found. (eJ if so, whether the preparation of a project report on that basis for the expan· (c) Does not arise. sion of the Durppur Steel Plant Iw been ordered ; and Cuttack·Pandeep Railway LlDe (f) if not, tbe reasons for tbe delay? 139. SHRI SRADHAKAR SUPAKAR : SHRl RABI RAY: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be ENGINEERING (b) and (c). Do not arise. . f~m ~lf 'II'1m (d) to (f). The Market survey report of ~~ ""' Mis. Dastur & Co. needs detailed study 142. '" IftI'nW f~ from the view points of market pattern, : size of order lots, econ omie sizes of orders ,,1 i. ". ~l1m : against market demand, etc. A Study Group '" 111m' "'" : appointed by Chairman, Hindustan Steel, is ,,1.0 ~ currently engaged in this task. The Steering ,,1 lito m~~ : Group on the iron and steel industry is also ,,1 ~1f1'f fI'll : finalising its projectiol\s of demand and capacity in the alloy and special steel sector, IIfll'T ~" ~ ~ ifflTif ~ tm rn Preparation of a project report will be consi- flf dered after these studies arc complete. (If;) 111fT ~lfn 1fT ~ ~ flf; ~lfi D. S', ,Olllce, Northern Railway Exchange it f1.RT fclfiC !fro m cm:n It>"\' ~If 141. SHRI YASHPAL SINGH: Will the ~~"I ~ ~ f1.RT fu''fC !fro If~ ~ If1t Minister of RAIL WA YS be pleased to state: 2 11 0 II f(f l'fjp' ~ ~ ~ (d) if not, the reasons thereof ~ (l.lf) ;ift ~ , THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. (If) 'JfT'T (Ifr) it; ~ Ifr) ~ i~ RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (c) and (d). The maintCD8DCC olaff has ~ (i;;<'f ~ ft ~Ifttf ~ been increased by S7 ~ ~ which is commensu- '" f~ Ff It>"\' ~ ~ Iff; rn rate with tbe increase in workload. The TelcpboDe Opnalon have been increucd by (II> m tt 1R'f.mt ..r .. f~ 38%_ ~~~~~'Ii 167 Wrillen ns ~rs FEBRUARY 18, 1969 rlH~n Ans"," s 168 ~ qnr,\ ~o uq,!"", "'() (b) A statement showing the directions of India's export trade to different countries (iF) 1,24,820.25 ~ 1 for the period April-November, 68 is enclosed. The figures in respect of direction of trade are maintained in terms of total exports and 22,069.36 1 (l!f) m not in terms of traditional and non-traditio- nal items. India's Exports 144. SHRI P. C. ADICHAN : (c) In the past three years India', trade SHRI YASHPAL SINGH deficit has b.en progressively reduced from SHRI NARENDRA SINGH Rs. 921.9 crores in 1966-67 to Rs. 775.6 crores in 1967-68 and further from Rs. 581.8 MAHIDA: 8 crores in April-December, 1967 to RI. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI 357.5 crores in April-December, 1968, both SHRI R. K. SINHA : on account of an increase in exports and a SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : fall in imports. Considering that during the SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACHWAI process of development, import requirements of a country normally tend to exceed its SHRI VISHWA NATH PANDEY capacity to exports for a long time, a perfect SHRI SHIVACHANDRA JHA : balance between imports and exports cannot Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be expected to be achieved in our foreign AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: trade in the near future except by cutting back the rate of growth of the economy. (a) the total value of India's exports of (i) traditional and (ii) non-traditional items (d) The requisite information is being during the first nine months of ihe current laid on the Table of the house in reply to financial year; Un,tarred Question No. 182 due for answer in the Lok Sabha on 18-2-1969. (b) the value of exports of traditional and non-traditional items during this period to each different country; Blrla Group of Industries (c) how far the exports have been success, 145. SHRI CHENGALRA YA NAIDU : ful in balancing the imports and by what Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- time, in the light of the present rate of LOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND increase in exports, it is expected that India COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: exports will be able to even out imports; and (a) whether it is a fact that Government (d) the steps proposed to be taken to have taken a final decision in rellard to the augment India's exports further? remaining Birla concerns against whom there were allegations and about whom Govern- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ment were collecting the necessary data; MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHRY RAM (b) if not, the reason. for the delay; SEWAK) : (a) Commodity-wise statistics are available only for the period April-Nov- ember, 1968. Total exports during this period (c) the number of Birla Concerns rela- amount to Rs. 908,30 crores. No attempt has ting to which irreaularities were fouDd tIIId been made to officially classify exports as the action taken &pinst them; aDd traditional and non-traditional. However, export earnings of items aenerally termed as (d) the steps taken to check such irreau- traditiooal ODeS are shown in the list laid larities in future? on the Tabll: of tbe House. [Placed In library. ~ No, Lr-16;69] amounted to Rs. 540.52 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL crores during April-November, 1968. The DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE balance of 367,78 crores, therefore represents AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. the value of other itoms of cl\POi'ts, AHMED) : (a) As I mentioned in the IlIira 1~9 Wrillen Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKAl Wrill£n Answers 170 Sabha on the 22nd July, 1968, of the total information is sought, it is presumed of 88 allegations against the Birla Group of that this question is in respect of the Industries contained in the three memoranda construction of Bailadila Deposit No.5: submitted by Shri Chandra Shekhar, 64 Earlier. the Heavy Engineering Corporation allegation> had already boon disposed of by had a re~d to undertake a turn-key job for the Governm:nt; of th': remaining 24 allega- this Project and be rcspon>ibk for the tion also, 13 haw since boen disposed of; engineering. construction, erection and c om~ thus, ,"aving a balance of II allegation, in Illissioning of the same. However, rCi.:l'ntly r~ ard to which a final dL'ciliion is yet to b.: the Heavy Engineering Corporation have taken. given to N. M. D. C. to understand that now th:y will confine their scope of work (b) Several factors have h:l'n responsible only to supplying of certain items of plant for the delay in taking tll~' final lkdsion (,.)t. and equipmcnt. As a result, the rcspon"ibility some of thi! allegation, n:quir(' inquiries both for cnginl!'cring and (,.'ommissioning of the in India and abroad: in some cuo.;c:s Govern- Plant has become that or the N. M. D, C. ment action has boen stayed by the ordels and it is necessary for them to obtain the passed by certain court", scrvil,;es of consultants. When the scope of work of Heavy Engincl'ring Corporation was (c) Of the remaining allegations (24 in for turn-key job, they were also proposing to numbor) referred to by the Hon'ble Member .. ppuinl a Con,ultant and had the names of a in part (a) of the question, in respxt of 4 few firm..;, Indian & fOTl'ign, under thcil allegations preliminary inquiry has r,'vealed a consideration, After the I.:hangc in the scope prima facie case of violation of an existing of work, the N. M. D. C. have bel'n directed law and action has boen initiated under the to n'.!gotiate with thl: sam~ firm" of consul- relevant provisions of the law. tants who were undl.'r the consideration of Heavy Enginoering Corporation and select the (d) In the very nature of things, it is not most suitable on, keeping in view that the possible to check altogether the eommissior, indigenous know-how will be obtained to the of irregularities by anyone but it goes without maximum possible ('Xll'nt. Sinl:(', the N, M, s'lying that whoso;!vcr commits irregularities D. C is yet to finalis" their recommendations, alsu runs til': risk of penal action. it cannot be said at this stag'.! whether a foreign or an Indian COD (b) if so, the remuneration to be paid to Machine Tool Plant In U, p. the firm and the foreign cl.<.:hangc involved th.. ein; 148, SHRI R. K. SINHA Will the MInister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, (e) whether any Indian consultancy firm INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY had offered its service for the said job; and AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (d) if !D, the reasons for choosing the (a) whether Government have decided 10 foreign firm? sel up a Machine Tool Plant in U, P. ; THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM (b) if so, the venue or the !18m!! ; AND CHEMICALS AND MINES AND METALS (DR. TRIGUNA SEN): (a) (c) whether reprewnlalion! have been Since the Hon'ble Member has nol mentioned received for se!tinll up the propooed "llIAt In the name of the Project reprdilll whicb the lhe Faizabad Division; and 171 Written Antwers FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrllten Answers 172 (dl if so, Government's reaction thereto? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AHMED, (a> Yes Sir, the Company's proposal AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. to appoint Shri Shiv Kumar Gupta as Mana- AHMED) : (al and (b): A new unit of sinc Director of the company with effect Hindustan Machine Tools Ltd. was proposed from the lst April, 1967, was rejected by to be set up in Uttar Pradesh after the the Company Law Board on 13th June, 1968. expansion of the existing plants in Haryana Kerala and Andhra Pradesh was taken up and (b) and (0). The Registrar of Companies, completed and a new factory proposed for Jullundur, has reported that in the 21st Madhya Pradesh had been set up. As the A onual Report & Accounts for the year machine tool industry has been facing the ending 31-3-1968 of this company, filed in problem of under-utilisation of existing capa- his office on 15th November, 1968, Shri Shiv city for the last two yea.. , the proposal for Kumar Gupta has been shown as tbe Mana- expansion of the existing units and establish- ging Director of the company. He has also ment of new units by Hindustan Machine received SOme complaints from certain indi- Tools Ltd. has been deferred. No decision viduals, forwarding inter alia photostat has been taken on the exact location of the copies of some dishonoured cheques on the proposed unit in Uttar Pradesh. Punjab National Bank Limited, Kharar, purported to have been signed by Shri Sbiv (e) No, Sir. Kumar Gupta as Managing Director of the company on the 5th September, 1968. (d) Doe. not arise. (d) The Registrar of Companies, Jullun- M_glag Director of Panlpat Woollen dur, in a communication to the company, has advised Shri Shiv Kumar Gupta not to ADd General Mills Limited, Khanr designate bimself as Managing Director of tbe company since his appointment as such 149. SHRI S. K. TAPURlAH : was disapproved by the Company Law Board. SHRI VALMIKJ CHOUDHARY : Textile Mill. taken over by Government Will the Minilter of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE 150. SHRI S. K. TAPURIAH : AND COMPANY AFFAIRS be plescd SHRI P. C. ADiCHAN : to state: SHRI VALMIKI CHOUDHARY : (al whether the Company Law Admini- Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE Ilration disapproved of the appointment of AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: Shsi Shiv Kumar Gupta as the Manllling Director of the Panipat Woollen and General Mills Ltd., Kharar, with effect from the (al whether Government bad proposed ht May, 1967 ; to take over more textile mills; (b) if 10, whether it is a fact Shsi Shiv (b) if 50, the number of mills taken over Kumar Gupta is It ill addressing letler's and durina the Jut three months and tho total important documents as Manqinc Director number of milll taken over in each Stale of tbat cstablisbment , so far ; (c) whother it is alse a fact that the (cl the number of milia proposed to be IaWI balulce lheel for Ibe year 1967-68 taken over in future and in what ciraImIta- ahows tho name of Shri Shiv Kumar SGupta OCCI' and as a ManaaiJII Director; and (d) the stcpa beina taken to estricale tho (4) if 10, tho steps propoted to be taka! telltile indUltry iII...-a1 ftom tho JINIIIt Ia tbIa malter ? criIIa ? 173 Written Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) Wrllten Answers 174 • luae number of cases of irregular travel THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE resultina in recovery of railway dues and MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND prompt impositioD of fines after trial on tbe SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM spot. In case payment of dues and tines is SEWAK) : (a) Yes, Sir. DOt made the guilty persons are promptly sent to jail. As a result of these checks (b) One. The number of mills taken over sales at bookins windows also increase. State-wise so far is as follows: (b) checkinll of trains by Special Ticket Examiners already exists but in order to Gujarat make ticket checkina more effective and Madhya Pradesh 4 beneficial to the Railway Administration by Maharashtra ~ restrictinll th. scope for ticketless passenaers Pondicherry to evade detection, the system of sroup Rajasthan check ina is also resorted to. Uttar Pradesh Robtak-Pllllipat Railway Line Total 13 1~ . SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL (c) It is difficult to anticipate the number Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased of mills to be taken over in future; only to state: those mills which have been investigated under section I~ of the Industries (Develop- (a) whether it is a fact that the Rohtak- ment & Regulation) Act, 1951, and can Panipat line was discontinued durina the become viable units, with the injection of a Second World War in emeraent circum- reasonable amount of public funds, are stances ; taken over by Government. (b) wbetber a part of tbis liDe waf restored subsequently ; (d) A statement detailinll the measures already taken to assist the cotton textile industry laid on the Table of the House. (c) whether tbere is a demand from tbe [Placed in Library. See No. LT-17/69l. people of the area for tbe restoration of the Further measures are under consideration. remaininll part ; and Cbed.lnll of Tlcketle•• Trani (d, if so, the reaction of Government I ~rcto ? lSI. SHRI SURAJ BHAN : Will the Minister of RAILWA YS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a' Ye •. (al bow far the IIroup check in" of ticket. bas been ,u.'CCssful OD the Railway. ; (b) Yes. The Robtak-Gobaoa portion and was restored in 19'8. (b) wbether it would be more beneficial (c) Yea. to tbe Railway Administration and con- venient to tbe public to have a .pecial (d) In view of the lo.. es beiDl ioauTed Ticket Examiner with each train as far as in the operation oC the restored Rohlak- possible in~tead of the system of aroup Gobana portion, the keen road competition cbcckina ? tbat has developed in the area, and the prescot dilllcult financial pDlitioD of tbe THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Railways, it would DOt be pouible to COD- (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) lider the rcstoratiOll of tbe rcmalDloa portioo (e) Group cbecltiotl of ticketa OD the upto Paoipat especially wbeo sud! resloretloa RaU_yo has beea oua:euCul and has yield- is likely 10 rcouIl in Curther ~ 1000.. 10 ed ueful mulu in tbe abape of detectiOll of the Railways. 17S Wrlttell Answers FEBRUARY I~, 1969 Written Answers 176 Kalka-Simla RaUway Line its products. The Tariff Commission are already enquiriD& into the cost structure of IS3. SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL the man-made fibre industry and the WiIJ tbe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Commission have been requested to submit to state: an interim report on the fair prices to be charged for viscose filament yarn. Remedial (a) whether Government Itre contemplat- measures will be consid (b) No. (c) whether it is a fact that the recom- mendations of the Shanker Commission have (c) Whether certain steps other than become out-moded in view of the changed dismantling of the line may be tak"n to condition. ? moke it viable, or to at least reduce the losses, is being considered. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. Art Silk Industry at Amrltsar 154. SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL: (a) whether it is a fact that the art silk Stale ~dIaa Corporation industry at Amritsar is facing a serious crisis; IS6. SHRI PREM CHAND VERMA: (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and DR. SUSHILA NAY AR : (c) the steps taken or contemplated by Will the Millisler of FOREIGN TRADE Government to take out the industry out of A NO SUPPLY be pleased to state: tbe present Impasse ? (c) if so, the result thereof; and ~ "",1 (WTo ~ ... "'t) : (iii) flfl!lI l1, f"" ~ (d) if not, the reasons therefor? .m: (\If). .m: m.ft ij; il~ qftf.l zmfTliT(\" II1l' IfEJIfA' IfT'JIT THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE itT ~ ~ l~ 1fT!f tn: tt~ ~r ~ MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM ~"I' ~ "riT ~"ffilr iliff ~, l~i ~, SEWAK) : (a) to (d). Information is being !f~lflf I l~! ..n ~~ ij; f~ ~IJ ~If collected and will be laid on the Table of ~, ~"I'~ ~ ~ 'fol tbe House. 7iTl., mfl:' 'It! ~.~ rrtT ~ , Abolition of SlIigur;·DarjL'eUnK Train °IS7. SHRI BISWANARAYAN SHAS· ~'I1f~ '''~ ~ ""'" ~ .yt TRI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be '"" if ~, pleased to state: m.f"" 160. 'IT q" ttr'IW ~ : 'lifT ~ (a) whether he is considering a proposal 1Ii~ fol' abolishing the Siliguri·Darjeeling if''lI'! 1ft( i(;:;R 1f! F'IT fi!; : Himalayan train ; and (iii) 'lifT 1iI,\'liH ~ , ~'lflf!ftt (b) if so, whether he is awaro that , ,f 'f 1 "9 ~ <'ITl., IfIT ~ ~ with the abolition of this 'toy train', the tou· m) m rists. interest to this beauty queen is likely to ~ it qf,\ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. Ifr~ ~1iI 1iI~1f RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) and (b). As (I;f) ilt, '1') if IliTIi the traffic on the Siliguri·Darjeeling Narrow iii. 1f1li ~ ~ f.f:n; 'fTit;(.t I1>flTlfrrT ~ Gauge S'Ction is rather limit f~," fQn.. ~ 'It W n ( \If) 1iI'.-r... Oft\' ni'l'T I ~~~ .-wm (IT) 1:11 !!lr1f l'i ~ ~ ~ 159. ,,11llAPt ttr'IW ~ 'RT ~ .r~.,~~ JI i'I I ~ If': ~f.t ~r FiT ~it fif: : Fall III E,.port or a.,011 aad ra~ ~ m fQt it ;rf f~ ~ !ro- Fabrln fm ~ F'uli'!l,qa.,,, \'f1fT firo~ ~ i'f~ t1,~ ~ ~ ~ °161. SHR.I N. K. SOMANI: WIIlIba .,t m.ft MiDister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SlJP. "riT ~ f'FIfT t; ~ PLY be plated to state : (\If) ~~. ~ ij; IR " (a) whether Government tIlC aware that m '""" the nports of rayoa aad lyatlwtlc fibre ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ t. \'f1fT nit fabrics haw fallco rrom R.I. 10 c:rores In 1963 . ~!mIfIll '~ to _rly R.I. 2 CfOf'CI In 1961: 179 Written Answers FEBRUARY 18. 1969 Writ/lin AlIIwllrs 180 (b) whether the Silk and Art Silk Mills "'tI~ fWtw, m~ ~ ~ Auociation. Bombay have sent recommenda- ~~ ,,~, (.n ~ _ tions to promote export of these items ; and ~f : ~ iIIT. ~ I (c) if so. tbe reaction of Government thereto? (\if) "fn: (If). ~if~ 1f14"1lf(q1 it; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE fllforrq; ~~II"If muf I!i1 Iff ~ MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND for.r'l; fllf;;rrq; t ~ ~ ij; III"m'l" fq SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM SEWAK) : (a) The export of rayon and ~t J ~ I ~ l'TTif.r ~C fIf'ti" r f~ synthetic fibre fabrics in 1968 amounting to ij; ~e r ~ Ifii ~ I ~ if 'ti"lfirrfm itil Rs. 3 crores doubt shows a decline as compa- ~'f ft ~ 1II"~ll"".ff ~ ~ 'fn red to exports prior to 1966 but shows an 'l""!If 1ft:J: m improvement as compared to export in 1967 it; 1II"'l"<:T!fT mf~ ~C' ~ I which was of the order of Rs. 9~ lakhs only. Import of Syntbetic and Rayon Yarnl (b) Yes. Sir. (c) The export promotion measures al- 163. SHRI N. K. SOMANI: Will the ready in operation are kept constantly under Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND SUP- review and for the furtherance of exports PL Y be pleased to state : Government would take into account the suaestions received from the industry and (a) whether the import of rayon and trade includinll the Silk and Art Silk Mills Synthetic yarns is being entirely channelised Association. Bombay. throuah the State Trading Corporation and whether the Corporation makes a profit of qrofN ~ ~ 1~ to 200 per cent while supply ina it to the actual users ; and 162. ,,' ~f1n r~' .n~. R: (b) if so. the steps proposed to be taken by Government to remedy this .n~.~. ~ situation? ,,' .nfim~ "''IT : ,,'~. Qtql: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM 'NT ."i~~~. ~ ~ SEWAK) : (a) and (b). Import of synthetic ,,'" ~ m It'lfi qi! '1m- 11ft tm (nylon) yarn alone has been channelised ~i'rflf through the State Trading Corporation. It is not correct to say that S.T.C. is makina 1~ (If» 'NT ~n ~n ~ SIffi ~~ ~ to 200 per cent profit 00 such imports. After 11ft "f~ ~~lf IflfT t fit; ~~ II"TifIf'- paying the Customs duties. Countervailing duties. freight. insurance and their handina ~~ it; ~1 ~ it Hm<'T rn 11ft and distribution characs. the profits that 'flf1I>'t ~ t ; S.T.C. makes after three: price reductioDS an- nounced by them i. amaU_ Even this profit is (,,) 'NT If{ '1ft "t f~ '"~ ~lf utilised for pushing up export of art silk it; f" d ... lf (a) the reasons for the delay in consi- U, S. A. by iDstitutina lepl ~iD s derina the recommendations made by the all8il1st any ilIfrinaemcnt. Venkataraman Committee durina the year 1966 for the export of 'Bleed ina Madras' to (3) A Irant of dollars 1.3 lakh has been U. S. A.; made for undertakina publicity for handloom fabrics includina' Bleedina Madra,' ill (b) the stqe at which the matter rests U. S. A. with the Handloom Export Promotion Council which has been seized of the matter for However, recent reports indicate that many months ; and there are no chances of the interest ill Bleedina Madras reviving to aoy con,iderablc uleDt (c) the time by which effective measures in the near future. would be taken to step up the export of 'Bleedina Madras' to carn more of dollar so Demand for Kllkrl. badly needed for the country? 1M. SHRI M. N. REDDY: Will the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND MINISTR Y OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPL Y be pleased to state: SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM SEWAK) : (a) Probably the Hon. Member (a) whether it is a fact that there bas refers to the recommendations made by the been, of late, a IIreat demand for India- deleption which went to U. S. A. in April- make Nepali Kukris (small swords) from May, 1966 under the leadership of Shri U.S.A., Canada and West Germany; R. Venkataraman. If this is so, there has been no delay in considering the recommen- (b) whether any survey has beeD made dations made by the Venkataraman Delell8- to aS1e1i their demand iD these couatries tion. Action on the recommendations made and also in other countri.. ; by the delell8tion was completed by the end of 1966. (e) if 10, tbe details thereof; and (b) The recommendations made by the (d) if not, the re&iODi therefor 1 Venkataraman Delell8tion were considered by the Government of India and not by the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Handloom Export Promotion Council. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM (c) 'Bleed ina Madras' fabric was fashion SEWAK): (a) India·make Nepali Kukri. are fabrics and 8I;cording to the findina of the exported from India. But this item is not delegation, the main reasons for decline in .eparately classified under the Indian Trade the aport of 'Bleeding Madras' to U. S. A. Classification. /I is, however, included in were (i) change in fashion, (ii) competition th. lIeneral catellory of knives, the esporta from similar miU-made fabrics of America of which have shown a rllina treud durina and Japan, and (iii) Imports of Indian and the last three years. Hoog Kona made garment.. Export of 'Bleedina Madras' fabrics can therefore be (b) to (d). Since Kukris from a miDor iocrcased only gradually and steps have already item of haodicrart "porta, no aurvey of beco taken and are beiDI taken in this reprd, this art~lar item has bmI made, These steps include the followina :- (1) A deliper has been appoiDted by the Handiaafta .t Handlooms Eaport Col'po- ration ror creatint DeW fashion. in sport,- 166. "'~~ ware etc. -i\ 60 ,.,,; tft~o ~o.., (2) A of bas been appoia- firm La.".. ~finf ted iD U. S. A. to doni c&l:tivc protectioa •• to tile Dame 'ladia Madra' nwiatered iD ••0 .....,; 183 FEBRUAR Y 18. 1969 Written Answers 184 ~ wt,,)fittII fW1w """ ~~Ii Ijft Ifi! ifa'Tif If;T ii'fT m flF : 168. IIITT ~"~ """" : !flIT ~ (IF) IfIfT lf~ ~" ~ flF 'lff':CfTlf JI1'fif; ~ lf~ "',, f,,~ f~", ~f ~ ~!'I1f (If) ~"f 1f ~ '!it if; w;rar iJlf; flf;(f'f ~ ~~ "'I' ~ ~' ~ ~ : ~ ~1f ~ lfn; ~ ~ flf f~ ~" "~lf f.rilT- ~ ~ 'f~1 I ~r~ft'f ~ Cf'l!T it If;iI' alf; ~1f ' ~ ~ ~i't ? ('1f) ~rr ~ ~ 73"i5iJT I m "'IT ( 11. U1f ~"'" f~ ) : (If;) ~'f 'l"rr f~mr If;) "R (al whether it is a fact that there has (If) ~ mr'f ~ ~ ~ ~ n ~ been shortalle of eycle and car tyres in the ~ ~lf if (q;\lrIr mr;r) ~ l"<:T m country ; aDd ~. if 'I . ~ I ~ ~ ~'f 1FT ~ Ifillf ~ ~ ~ "flTWT ~ on: (b) if so, .the steps taken to meet the ~ I ~l'fif ~Iffo'f ~lf' situation? mCff.:'RT, m ~, ...) f~ rit '"~ ~.. IITft THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL lffi'Illffif ~ ,u ~ ifid I IF) ~ !f;"(dT t, DEVELOPMENT, INTENAL TRADE cr. ~ ..n:;r it; IITft 4'fflT'ImJ lIlT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI Cf ~ !fiT 'ITT ~ ~ I~" srql;;r;r F. A. AHMED) : (al No, Sir. .. f'rlt m ~ it '{iii ;rit CIt< q ~ (b) Does Dol ariK. lilt ~ f lIlT IIm'rT 11ft \lIT ~ t I ~ las WrW.1I A ~r t,. MAGHA 29, 1890 ~ W,It/." AlI.I'w.rs 116 Ir.fm ~ t rn~... .-.nit If>T sr~ (b) There was no damqe to IWI_y property. fif'ifTUtf't"f ~ ~ I Manufacture In India of Co_tics and ",'a8i!< mA ~ .... f.. 4liR ToUet Products by M.'s Shultons of U. S. A. 169. 'Ii I""' ~... IfiPl'Q' : ifl THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DIt. RAM SUBHAG SINGH): Few Jraioa Mre stopped but IIOl HOIMd. In. Simi INDRAJIT QUPTA : Will tile 187 W,llIe" AlISwe,G FEBRUARY 18, 1969 W,ltte" A"swe,s 188 Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND October, 1968 the turbine of Turbo-blower SUPPLY be pleased to state: No.6 burst and suffered damages. (a) whether a workin, Group has been (b) Replacement cost of the turbine .et up to study the problems of the Jute damaged together with its auxiliaries and Industry ; control panel is roughly estimated at Rs. 8 lakhs. Five persons inc\udina two officers (b) if so, the composition and the terms and three workers received injuries. One of reference of the Group ; officer succumbed to the injuries. (e) whether it has also been decided to (c) No, Sir. General Foreman of advance Rs. 5 crores to the industry for its Turbine Operation and maintenance and modernisation ; and General Foreman of Capital Repairs, Turbo Rotary Apparatus as well as Assistant Fore- (d) if so, the detail! of the modernisa- man, Turbines were present at the time of tion schemes? accident. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (d) A high-level Enquiry Committee was MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND appointed by the Plant authorities and SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM according to its findings no negligence of SEWAK) : (a) No, Sir. duty on the part of the personnel was established. (b) Does not arise. Conces.tlon. to Railway Employees (c) and (d). A sum of Rs. S eroros has been earmarked for loan assistance to the °174. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will jute industry through the Industrial Finance the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Corporation of India for sehemes of diver- state: sification of production which have an immediate export potential. (a) the details of the recently announced concessions in respect of Runnina staff LoiS to BhU.1 Steel Plant allowanet's, merger of Dearness Allowance with basic salary and increased promotional 173. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will opportunities for different catelories of the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND Railwaymen ; MET ALS be pleased to state: (b) the additional financial commitment (a) whether there was a serious accident undertaken thereby ; and at the Bhilai Steel Plant on the 22nd October, 1968 due to bursting of a Turbo- (c) the reasons for not announcinll these blower ; concessions before the strike on the 19th September, 1968 ~ (b) If 10, the loss suffered as a result thereof; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (a) and (c) whether it i. a fact that none of the (b). A statement showina the concessions, reapomible officers was present at the spot togcther with financial implications involved where the Turbo-blower was beina tested; in respect of Runnina allowances and treat- and ment of a portion of Dearne .. Allowance as pay for certain purposes, is placed on (d) if so, whether any action ha. been the table of the Sabha [Placed in library, takal for n"lUFfICC of duty ~ See No. LT-18 .'69.1 THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND The question of evolvilll steps to improve HEAVY ENGINEERING (SHRI C. M. the position of Class m stall' ele. with. POONACHA): (a) Ves, Sir. 011 22Dd view to IiviDt relief to stall' who have been 189 Wrltte" A"swers MAGHA 29. 189D (SAKAI Wrltt." A",....,s 190 in the maximum of the arade for some time THE MINISTER RAILWAYS (DR. in certain celeJOries is under detailed investi- RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (a) and (bl. An ption. The financial implications thereof announcement will be made shortly. are not available at this stage. IrreaalarltlN In lhe A_I, of BI_ Klladl (cl These matters were under consider- GramodyOll Sa•• Dar...... ation of the Government for sometime past. After takina all relevant factors into account and ell8l1liniDg all aspects thereof and as a 177. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : Will result of discussions with the Oraanised the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND Labour. the Government arrived at the SUPPL Y be pleased to refer to the reply decisions and orders could be issued only siven to Unstarrcd Question No. 3131 on the 3rd Decembev, 1968 and state: in January, 1969. Special Compensatory Allowance to Railway (a) whether the information reprdina Employees In Korapal Division the irrcsularities in the Accounts of the Bihar Khadi GramodyOIl Sanah has lince heen collected. and 175. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Minister of RAILWA YS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details theveof and the action taken in the matter 7 (al whether Railway employees working THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE in the Koraput District of Orissa are elisibl. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND for the Special Compensatory Allowance SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM sanctioned by Government for its staff in SEWAKl: (al and (b). The information terms of Ministry of Rehabilitation's Circular is being collected and will be laid on the No. DNKi l(28l158 dated the 20th September, Table of the House in due course. 1968 ; (bl if not. the reason. for their inelisi- Licencel IIIUed by the Ministry of C-ce bility ; and 178. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will (c) if the reply to part (al above be in the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE AND the affirmative whether this allowance will SUPPLY be pleased 10 Itale the number of be paid from an early date with retrospective occasions and the particular cases durina effect 7 the last 10 yean when his Ministry received reminders and recommendations etc. for THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. speed ina up the arant of licences from the RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) to (c). The Ministry of Finance and othev Ministries ? matter is under consideration. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE DIYI,t.allsalloa of Nortb Eastern Ral.... y MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM SEWAK) : The pre-requisite for furni,hiDi 176. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : Will the the desired information i. the availability of Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to refev all the files in rcapect of around 26.69 lakh to the reply liven to Unstarrcd Question import and 9.22 lakh esport lioencc appli- No. 313 on the 12th Novembev. 1968. cations received by the Imparl a: Exparl reprdiDg divisionalisation of the North Trade Control Orpnization in the lut teD Eastern Railway and state : yean. Due to the limited periods preocrib- ed for preservation or such Illes, all the Ill.. (a) whether the preparatory work has are DOl available. The IIndl. even after ,iDee been completed ; and eumiDation of the available IlIet may DOl be COIIIIIICIIIUlae with tbe time and labour (b) if 10. tile retU111 tbcreo( 1 it _Id IIIvolw. 191 W,It/m A"swers FEBRUARY 18,1969 Wrlt/e" A"swers 192 Sto,ptaaea of Mall/Express Trains true that occassionally Mail/Express trains make unscheduled halts due to a variety of 179. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA : unforseen circumstances, e.g., unauthorised Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased alarm chain pulling resulting in dislocation to .tate : of crossing arrangements particularly on the busy single line sections; interference with (a) whether Government are aware that train movement by agitations/demonstrations; most of the Mail/Express trains stop at stray cases of accidents, failure of signal! many stations which arc very small and mechanical equipment, etc., in such cases, there are not many travellers to board at or every effort is made to make up the time alisht from those trains at these stations; lost in unscheduled detention~, to the maxi- mum extent feasible and it is not correct (b) if so, whether Government would that most MaillExpress trains take the same reduce the stoppages of such Mail jExpres. as ordinary pa;senger trains. trains so as to increase the speed and reduce time taken by them; and (b) No. (c) if so, the step' taken or proposed to (c) Does not arise. be taken by Government in the matter? (d) In this connection, attention is THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. invited to Rule 117 of the Coaching Tariff No. 19, ParI. l. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) to (c). The number and dural ion of stoppages of Mail Express Irains are kept at the very minimum. South-Bound Mall !Ellpress Trains consislent with traffic'operational require- ments and are also reviewed from time to ·181. SHRI N. R. LASKAR: Will the time in order to progressively speed up Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to ,tate: Mail/Express trains 10 the extent feasible. (a) whelher Governmenl are considering to divert some of the South-bound Mail.' Unscheduled halts of Mall/Express Express trains throush Manmad and Dhond'; TraIns at Stations and 180. SHRIONKAR LAL BERWA : (b) if so, the details thereof? Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF RAILWA YS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) No. (a) whether Government are aware that most of the Mail/Express trains make (b) Does not arise. unscheduled halts at stations and other places not provided for in the Railway Time Table with the result that in most cases the total Intteate In India's Exports JlUlDber of halt. and also time taken comes to that taken by ordinary pa!lSellger trains; 182. SHRI S. S. KOTHARI : SHRI NARENDRA RUMAR SALVE: (b) whether in such cases, Government SHRI SHIVA CHANDRA JHA : would refund to the passengers the difference of the cost of tickets of Mail/Express and Will tbe Minister of FOREIGN TRADE ordinary trains ; AND SUPPLY be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details thereof; aDd (a) whether it is a fact that India', exports have increased sizeably ; (d) if not, the re... ns therefor ? (b) if so, the names of the commodities THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (Da. whose exports have aoDe up and those whose RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) While it is exports have '- lIugi1b ; _d 193 Wrillen Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 ($AKA) Wrillen AnsH'ers 194 (c) the steps Government aro taking to b:en initiated for the promotion of Tea boost exports of traditional items? Export. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 4. For the export of cotton textiles a MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE AND scheme of cash assistance is being operated SUPPLY (SHRI CHOWDHARY RAM by I.C.M.F. SEWAK) : (a) Yes, Sir. 5. Exporters of traditional llOods with (b) The following commodities showed exports of Rs. 2 crores per year are made a rising trend in export during April- eligible for recognition as Export Houses, November, 1968 compared to April-Novem- which are allowed additional facilities for ber, 1967. opening offices abroad, Market research and gra'lts-in-aid on account of export activities. Cashew kernals, Iron ore, Caster oil, Oil cakes, Groundnuts, Raw Jute, Fish, Spices 6. The interest subsidy scheme has (turmeric aDd chillies), Manganese ore and been started which applies to both tradi- essential oils among the primary products and tional and non-traditional export products. Engineering goods, Iron & Steel, Lealher and leather manufactures (excluding foot-wear), The other steps taken to promote exporls Gems and Jewellery, Cotton piecegoods are given in the stalement laid on the Table (mill-made), Chemicals & allied producls, of the House r lar~d i" library. See No. Cotton yarn, minerals, Fuels and lubricants, LT-19/69] Miscellaneous Cotton manufaclures, Ferro manganege and alloys, Paper and Paper Loss to N.M.D.C. board, Art silk fabric, Art wear melal, Brass and Copper, Handmade Carpets, Rubber 183. SHRI MRITYUNJA Y PRASAD: manufactures, Coir yarn and manufactures Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES AND thereof, Cotton waste and cotton apparel, METALS be pleased to slate: among th, manufacture and semi-manufaclure (a) whether the attention of Government goods. has been drawn to the fact mentioned in the 9th Annual Report of the National Mineral The commodities whose exports were Development Corporation for the year sluggish during the abo"e mentioned period 1966-67 that it has suffered a loss of R •. are: 295 lakhs in the iron-ore trade with Japan upto 31st March, 1967, when the Railways, Tea, Sugar, Iron & Steel scrap, Hides Ihe Department of Shipping and the Customa and Skins (Raw), Cotton, Tobacco, Mica, Department have earned considerable profit; Pepper and Onions, Raw Wool, Animal casing amona the primary products and (b) if so, the steps beina taken to make Jute goods, Handloom cloth, cinemotoaraphie good the loss ; films and foot-wear among the manufactured (c) whether it is a fact that the contract ll00ds. for the sale of iron-ore with Japan is to expire on the 31st March, 1969, if 50, the (c) I. The fall in export of Jute 1I0ods reaction of Government to the renewal of the was occasioned by exceptionally poor jute said contract with Japan or lOme other crops. Steps are heiDI! taken to improve the country from the 1st April, 1969 ; and production of raw jute/Mesta. Government are also encouraging the diversification of (d) the amount of lOIS or prollt accruing production. Loan Assist&DCe is being liven to the said Corporation in the iroa-ore trade to lute Mills for this purpose. with Japan in the year 1967-68 ? 2. Export Duties on certain items such THE MINISTER OF PETR<>-CHEMI- a. jute manufactures, tea, coir products etc. CAL AND MINES AND MErrALS (DR. have beea lowered with effect from 7.2.1968. TRIGUNA SEN):(a) 10 the 9tb Annual Report of the"N_M.D.C. it has been atated that for 3. JoiD! aport eft'ort with Ceylon has the year eaded March 31, 1967, RI. 863 lakha 195 Written Answers FfBRUARY 18, 1969 Wrilfen Answers 196 accrued to the N.M.D.C., Rs. 811 lakhs f;:rll'Rr flf;lfl lfll'T Cl'IfT ~ «T"1 f (IT) 9;«1 ~ cr it ~If f"f 'f f'fill' , ~lf f rll' I ~llmrrf ll'f, 'ft (iii) ~, m ~ f~ il''l f~ ~ ~ If>l f.nf~ fl!i7fT t ; "" m ~ ~ f r~ qm.r;;;-!f fG'1.fT ~ I;I"R: (Ilf) I I"~ i'[f, ~ ~rlll"m ~ ~ ~ ;;;-ifij' ;;;-Tlf ~~ f~ ; t? ('9) ~'l ~'f 1FT ~'f 'i'f 1FT ~~ "'~ f~m, ~mr IIn'm: ~~ m ~ !flH ~ m, . ~ii f~ ,",,!,!"f !f;T ~f'l ~ "'" """ (.n nt ~' : (1F) ('if). ~'fI n ~ ;m:rr flfKfT 'IT ~ ~ I;I"R: m.: ~1 fif'H{!r q'jff 'leo!" If<: <:tifT ~ I [!M- (IT) f;PiT ~lfl 'r ~lJ ~ ~ !f;Tlf I!il~ q: ~ ftIfT 'TIfT I ~ ~ffi ~~ flfKfT,:nl ~lflf ~ l;I"if ~ ~fr~ f f~ LT-20/69) If''lJf;fT !f;T f~'f f~ n ~~ gm ~ ? (IT) orT, 'f~11 lII" i~f1 lIi f~, 1II l'!f~ I~~ (Ilf) lf~ ~ 'f~1 :;o'fT I (If'fT "1f~ I!i'Iti If'lrl ('..11 'fi,"~' m ~ : (1F) I{lJ>l I{T cT;h;T forfm .1'.-( .lfi ~'r." 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'a~~ ~~ ~ ~ ~a.tt I tlthlk ~ .!ill Lb h2b llt.l:l k!; :Lttt ~ th [69/IZ-l:1.l.1!i1,," ~ .\:;Ii t~l ~.I!l~ '(ll) .f! (!Ie) : ~ ~ I Ut1& 111~ .1M) Ii! l~ I ~ ~ ~ ta ) t ~ ~ I ~ lH~.l. l Lb h2b Iltl! fin.hl;!j !leJJ . (It) lJUIllbUII ~ '~ ~1lI~ ~ (!Ie) : ~ hll . f lt~ ~ t~·. e lll lro~ I l~ lJa1.l lUIUIR ~ta i. ~ l ~ .I!~ '~ l.l!.l ZOl rJ~oII"' U.II/J,tf (1'-":1'$) 0681 '6Z VHDV .... sUoII,uy ~I1!J,tf IOZ 203 Wrl/len Answers FEBRUARY. 18, 1969 Writ/en Answers 204 SHRI B. K. DASCHAWDHURY (2) Escortina of important goods trains SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA : by Railway Protection Force armed personnel in vulncrable sections ; SHRI N. R. LASKAR : SHRI CHENGALRA Y A NAIDU (3) Posting of arm~d pickets at vulnerable spots; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (4) Intensification of checks by super- visory offic ials ; (a) whether it is a fact that Government purpose to set up a one-man railway tribunal (S) Strengthening of crime intelligence to go into the out-standing issues of the with a view to tracking down crimi- Railwaymen ; and nals and receivers of stolen property; (b) if so, the details thereof '1 (6) Conducting of surprise raids by Rail- ways Board's Central Crime Bureau THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS staff to effect red-handed capture of (DR, RAMSUBHAG SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. the culprits ; (b) An extract of the resolution issued (7) Maintenance of close co-ordination in this connection which gives details of this between the Railway Protection Force, Tribunal is laid on the Tablo of the House. Government Railway Police and tat~ [Placed in Library. See No. L T -22l 691 Police Officers to deal with the crimi- Thert of Railway Goods nals and receivers of stolen property; 194. SHRI VISHWA NATH PANDEY (8) Intensive witn'Ssing of loading and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased unloading at the selected pairs of to state: stations dealing with the bulk of (a) the number of cases of theft of commodities affected for pilferages ; railway goods on various Railways which and have come to the notice of Government (9) Tracking down of persons under Rail- from the 1st July, 1968 to the 31st Dece- way Property (Un-lawful Possession) mber, 1968 ; Act found or suspected to be in possession of Railway property having (b) the amount of loss accrued to Government in the afore.aid thefts; been stolen or unlawfully obtained. (c) the nature of punishment given to the Bribery and Corruption In Goods Booking persons detected in this regard ; and Ofllces of North-Eastern Railway. (d) the steps taken by Government to 19S. SHRI VISHWA NATH PANDEY: prevent the thrft of public goods on each Will the Minister of RAILWAY be pleased to Railway? state: THE MINISTER OF RAILW A YS (a) whether it is a fact that cases of bri·· (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) 20,108, bery and corruption in various goods book ing ()ffices of the North-Eastern Railway have (b) The value of property stolen was Rs. bem brought to the notice of Government; 34.76 lakhs, which includes IS.68 lakhs of property bclonlling to the Railways. Of this (b) if so, the number of such cases property worth Rs. 6.42 lakhs was reco- detected during the year 1968 and the action vered, leaving a net loss of Rs. 28,34 lakhs. taken in regard th3reto ; and (c) S,031 Persons, including both out- (c) the steps taken to check corruption siders and railway employees, were handed and bribery in &ODds booki OS offices of the over to police for lepl action. Nature of North-Eastem Railway? punishment lIiven is not yet known. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. (d) Followina steps are taken in this RAM SUBHAG SINGH): (8) Yes, some ~ rd on the Railways :- complaints have been received allcaillll cor- ruption aad bribery in the goods bookin, (I) Patrollina by armed Railway Protec- offices of the North Eastern Railway. tion Force personal as well as Rail- way Protection Force Dos Squads in (b) Durillll the year 1968, five casa, vulnerable and ~or yards; where there was suspicion of undue favour Written Answers MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) Written Answers 206 having been shown, came to notice, but the LOPMENT AND COMPANY AFFAIRS evidence of the type necessary to substantiate be pleased to state : demand and,'or acceptance of illegal grati- fication was not forthcoming in these cases. (a) the amount of loans granted to Uttar However, further action, as necessary, is Pradesh for the industrial development dur- being taken. ing the last ten years ; (c) Necessary machinery exists to con- (b) the names of the Companies to duct departmental as well as vigilance checks whom minimum and maxium amuonl of to prevent irrogularities and malpractices in loans were granted and also the amount the matter of booking of goods. Specific thereof; complaints arc also looked into and suitable action is taken in proved cases. (c) whether it is a fact that many units despite getting loan and if so, the names Firing in Muzalfarpur-Bagaba Passenger thereof; Train (North Eastern Railway) (d> whether Government propose to 196. SHRI VISHWA NATH PANDEY: take action against them; and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (e) if so, the nature thereof? (a> whether it is a fact that two armed THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL Guards and one treasurer of the North- DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE Eastern Railway were shot dead in the AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. Muzaffarpur-Bagaha Passenger train on the AHMED) : (a) to (c). The information i. being night of the 16th December, 1968 and about collected and il will be laid on the Table of two lakhs of rupees were looted; and the House. (b) the steps Government have taken in the matter? Man-days lo.t due 10 Lock-oul la Durppur Steel Plant THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (DR. RAM SUBHAG SINGH) : (a) Yes, but 198. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: not shot dead. The triple murder was com- Will the Minister of STEEL, MINES mitted with sharp weapons. AND METALS be please to state: (b) Immediate action was taken by Rail- (a) the total number of man-day. lost as way Protection Force and Government Rail- a result of the Iock-out in the Finance and way Police. A case registered by Govern- Accounts Departments of Durppur Steel ment Railway Police in this connection is Plant; urder investiption. Five persons have been arrested 50 far. Deputy Inspector General, (b) when the lock-out was llnally lifted; Crime and Railways, Bihar, Patm himself and supervised the investigations. (c) the terms of agreement between the Since January, 1969 only day travellilll parties under which the lock-out wu lifted ? has been introduced for line-going Pay Clerks on North Eastern Railway. Govern- ment Railway Police, Bihar have introduced THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE armed escorlilll of all ni"'t trains in affec- MINISTRY OF STEEL AND HEAVY ENGINEERING (SHRI K. C. PANT): ted sectiOllS. (a) 36,'91. Lou. for llldutrlal DeY..... ' Ia U. P. (b) 18.1.1969. 197. SHlU VISHWA NATH PANDEY: (c) 11le maiD terms of qreemeot are u Will the MiDlstcr of INDUSTRIAL DEVE- foDows : 207 Wrilltll Answers FEBRUAR Y 18, 1969 Wrillen Answers 208 The Union concerned undertook to make (iv) Ettension of the Factories Act to the employees perform all the duties allotted Loco Sheds. to them as per rules and orders of the Mana- gement and to work on all jobs relating to (cl and (dl. These and other demands of the Computer on the assurance given by the the Svpervisory stafT in Workshops and Loco Management tbat there would be no retren- Sheds have b:en examined in the past; it has chment of staff on this account. The mana ~ not b::en possible to consider any large scale ment, on its part, would keep the Union revision of the pay scales etc. of Railway- informed as and when new jobs were put on men in the prescnt juncture. Further. the the Electric Computer; the Union also gave demands of this category cannot be conside- the assurance on behalf of the Employees red in isolation in view of the fact that the that they would maintain office discipline and conditions of all Railwaymcn arc inter- decorum and would not indulge in any connected. unlawful activr ties. Without prejudice to the Court cases and disciplinary proccedings, the However, the demand of the National circumtances leading to the Lock out were Federation of Indian Railwaymen that the regretted. Those who fail to report for duty posts of supervisory staff in mehanical work- within seven days of the lifting of the lock- shops should be redistributed amongst the out without good and valid reason were to be various grades in conformity with their res- deemed to have left the company's service of ponsibilities and that ar. adequate channel of their own accord. promotion provided for them, has been refer- red to the Railway Labour Tribunal, 1969. All India Loco-Sbed Supervisory Conference Justice Shri N. M. Miabhoy, has been appoi- nted as the Tribunal. 199. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased lfil," r". 'liT AlffEl' to state: 200. ,,) '(T"T1: ~ ~~ (a) whether his attention has been drawn to the decision of the first All India Loco- ,,) f 0.0 ;:w;.n'{ : shed Supervisors' Conference held at New Delhi on the 15th January, 1969 to call upon ~r ~~r~ 11f1ltR EI'1fT ~ li'lJI Iff; its members to go on a mass fast from the ora-Tit 'iiI 'li'1f 'Ii~'i f'li : 13th March, 1969 ; ('Ii) "!IT ~ wq ~ f'li 'liT<'r1 fq;f 'liT (b) if so, what are the demands on which the fast is contemplated; ~ fllf f'l' rf~ if; ~ ~n 1 qT3I1 if 'liT<'T1 fq;i (iii) Proper service conditions. 209 Papers Laid MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) President's Assent to Bills 210 ('1') frrliTCf ~ rr qf<:!ifG', ~ ri! 'r11 Limitation (Amendment) Ordlnancc, Publle f~l fff i!rl'~'f Wakfs (Extension of Limitation) Amend· Cf"1T qf<:!ifG' if; I1J<'r If'ltft- ment Ordinance, Customs (Amendment <'rtf iFr ir.I"1, SlG'mrrtfT If orr'1' ~'f , Ordinance) and Payment of Bonus fqf'j{rrr 'l1 !ifr~ If ~ fq'l{T ~1 q'f>Cfr;rT (Amendment) Ordinance. if; ~ ~nf if; iHl Sl"fT<: f'f>tl"T qrr <:iF SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH : I Ilea: to ~I lay on the Table a copy each of the following Ordinances (Hindi and English versions). under provisions of article 123 (2) (a) of the Constitution :. 12.03 hrs. (I) The Limitation (Amendment) Ordi· PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE nance. 1968 (No. 12 of 1968) by the President on the 31st December. Explanatory Statement re : 1968. Customs (Amendment) Ordinance. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN· (2) The Pubic Wakfs (Extension of TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND Limitation) Amendment Orainance. TRANSPORT (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH) 1968 (No. J 3 of 1968) promulgated I beg to lay on the Table a copy of the by the President on the 31st Dece- explanatory statement (Hindi and English mber, 1968. versions) giving reasons for immediate legis· (3) The Customcs (Amendment) Ordi· lation by the Customs (Amendment) Ordina- nance, 1969 (No. I of 1962) promul- nce, 1969, as required under rule 71 (2) of gated by the President on the 3rd the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Busi· January, 1969. ness in Lok Sabha. [Placed ill Ii/l/'(//',I' See No. L T-3!69J. (4) The Payment of Bonus (Amendment) Ordinance, 1969 (No. 2 of 1969) Instrumention Ltd., Kota-Government promulgated by the President on the Revie" and Annual Report 10th January, 1969. r Placed in librar),. See No. L T·6!69.) THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, INTERNAL TRADE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI F. A. 12.04 hr •. AHMED) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the following papers under sub· BILLS PASSED BY RAJYA SABHA section (I) of ,ection 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:· SECRETARY; Sir, I lay on the Table of the House the following two Bills. as passed (I) Review by the Government on the by Rajya Sabha ;- working of the Instrumentation Limited, Kota, for the year 1967·68. (I) The Advocate (Second Amendment) Bill. 1968. (2) Annual Report of the Instrumenta· tion Limited, Kota, for the year 1967· (2) The Motor Vehicles (Amendment) 68 along with the Audited Accounts Bill, 1968. and the comments of the Comptrol· ler and Auditor General thereon. PRESIDENT'S ASSENT TO BILLS [Placed in library. See No. LT·4j69) SECRETARY: Sir. I also lay on tbe Report of Committee on Defections Table following seven Bill. passed by the Houses of Parliament during the last Scaslon THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and assented to by the President since a report MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI was last made to the House on the 6th K. S. RAMASWAMY) : I bel to lay on the Table a coppy of the Report of the Commit· December. 1968 ;- tee on defectioDS. [Placed in library. See (I) The Appropriation Railway. (No.5) No. LT,'j69]. BiU. 1968. 211 Pre.ident·. Assents FEBRUARY 18.1969 No-Confidence MOlioll 212 (2) The Appropriation Railways (No.6) Audit Report (Civil). 1968, relatins to the Bill,1968. Ministry of Home Affairs resardine Avoida- ble Expenditure. (3) The Indian Tariff (Amendment) Bill, 1968. (4) The Punjab Appropriation Bill. 1968. ESTIMATES COMMITTEE (S) The Pondicherry Appropriation Bill. 1968. Seventieth Report (6) The Appropriation (No. S) Bill. 1968. SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH (Nandyal) : I beg to present the Seventieth Report of the (7) The Bihar Appropriation (No.2) Estimates Committee on the Ministry of Bill. 1968. Railways-Railway Electrification Projects. I lay on the Table copies. duly authenti- cated by the Secretary of Rajya Sabha. of the following ten Bills passed by the HOllses 12.05 hrs. of Parliament during the la,t Session and assented to by the President since a report MOTION OF NO-CONFIDENCE IN was last made to the House on the 6th Dece- THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS mber. 1965:- MR. SPEAKER: 1 have to inform the House that I have received notice of a motion (I) The Judges (Inquiry) Bill. 1968. of no-confidence in the Council of Ministers (2) The Indian Railways (Amendment) under rule 198 from Sarvashri P. Ramamurti. Bill. 1968. Rabi Ray. P. K. Vasudevan Nair. Madhu Limaye and S. M. Banerjee. (3) The Madras State (Alteration of Name) Bill, 1968. •..it "! f~ ('tit<:) : "l'1 .~~ l f~ ', "qr ~ <:\!T ~ I ~l f 'foT ~'fo ~ f \jOTrrr ~ (4) The Deposit Insurance Corporation (Amendment) Bill. 1968. 'foTli ~r if; ~'t if I MR. SPEAKER: How does it arise (S) The Food Corporations (Amend when the no-confidencc motion is before the ment) Bill. 1968. House? On what subject? Which item of (6) The Bankinll Laws (Amendment) the agenda? Bill. 1968. '1) "'l f ' ~ "l'Pf "l'Jll' ifopf ~"r (7) The Essential Services Maintenance ~f~ ' '~it "l'T'lf .lfTrr mifo~ 1FT ifo ~ Bill. 1968. ~'lt 1.f "The rebuff by the electorate of the sider it because the rules provide that you Central Government's policies of toppl- are to fix the time after consultina the Leader ing the elected Governments and rever- of the House. We did not think there was sing the popular verdicts in West Bengal, any necessity for such a motion, but now Bihar and the Punjab. that it has come, it should be discussed just now. The encouragement of aggressive regio- nal movements such as Shiv Sena, Lachit MR. SPEAKER: I think so. Govern- Sena, etc. ment is ready. The Business Advisory Com- millee may decide other items of work. Failure to promote balanced develop- ment of different parts of the country and 'itT ~~ f~ t ~t if Hrll~ : different parts of individual States." "£!fer 1li1:1ll"l< ~ fifPf ~ fifo f'fi [Shri P.e. Sethi] issued when there is such an urgent need for It is now proposed to introduce a new the Government to pass a certain legislative Bill in replacement of the Ordinance, instead measure and the two Houses are not in ses- of taking up the Customs (Amendment) Bill, sion, It is true that the last Parliament was 1968 for consideration and passing by the prorogued on the 20th December and when Lolc Sabha. Accordingly, I move for leave to the Ordinance was issued on 3rd January our withdraw the Customs (Amendment) Bill, House was not in session. But the question is 1968. that this Bill had been moved in this House on 3rd December 1968 and the Bill was on SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL (Chand i- the agenda awaiting disposal. Nowhere is garh) : Mr. Speaker, Sir ...... there an instance when a Bill is already there of which the House is seized, that the Presi- MR. SPEAKER: He may just state his dent issues an Ordinance. This is a rare points and not go into the merits of the Bill. instance where the exceptional power of the President has been used to issue an Ordina- SHRI SHRI CHAND GOYAL: This nce when the House was already seized of a motion has been moved under ru Ie 110 Bill. I have already given notice of a motion which reads as under: to disapprove this Ordinance, That has alrea- dy been admitted and circulated, If that "The Member in charge of a Bill may at motion is passed by the House then the any stage of the Bill move for leave to Government will have to re-introduce the withdraw the Bill on the ground that- Bill and that will delay the disposal of this Bill. In lhese circumstances J vehemetly (a) the legislative proposal contained in oppose the motion which is being brought the Bill is to be dropped; or forward for withdrawal of the Customs (Amendment) Bill, 1968. (b) the Bill is to be replaced subsequently by a new Bill which substantialy MR. SPEAKER : The question is : alters the provisions contained there- "That leave be granted to withdraw the in; or Bill further to amend the Customs Act, 1962, which was introduced on the 3rd (c) the Bill is to be replaced subsequently December, 1968," by another Bill which include all or any of its provisions ir addi- The 1I/0t;01l was adopted tion to other provision;"",," SHRI p, C. SETHI : Sir, I withdraw the My submission in this respect is that the Bill. present motion which seeks to withdraw the The Bill \l'lIS by leave, withdrawn Customs (Amendment) Bill does not comply with any of these three contingencies because there is absolutely no proposal to drop the 12,15 brs, Bill, we are not going to bring forward a new legislation which will be substantially differe- COSTOMS (AMENDMENT) BILL- 1969 nt, from the one which is sought to be repla- ced, and thirdly, the new Bill does not THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE include any additional provision which enti- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI P. C. tles the Member in charllc of the Bill to with- SETHI) : Sir. I beg to move for leave to intro- draw the same. duce a Bill further to amend the Customs Act, 1962. Another objection that I want to bring to the notice of the House is that when the House was poasessed of that Bill there was MR. SPEAKER : The question is ...... abeolutelv no justification for the Government lifT m.~ In ~ : ~ or, the President to issue an Ordinance on that subjcct. An OrdiDance certainly can be ~~, ~ tf~ q"lf f<;m ~ ~~." ·Pub1iahed in Gazette of India Extraordinary Part D, section 2, dated 18-2-69. 217 Bills ltroduc~d MAGHA 29. 1890 (SAKAI Bills l,,'roducN 218 ~ f'li ~ llJ IJ rr~'Ii ~~l r.f fm'li, 'fo, m-r 1fl ~ "IJ IJ If ~'Ii" t~ ~rr f~ 'li 'iiI MR, SPEAKER : Will he now kindly ~~ "~rr ~t r If' ~ f rn f;;r,It< ~ resume his seat? I am on my legs, At the introduction stase he cannot 110 into the 'fl"i[('fT ~ f'li l SHIPPING (SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH) : 12.11 brs. I bel to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Delhi Motor [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chair]. Vehicles Taxation Act, 1962. In deference to the feelings expressed by MR. SPEAKER : The question is : han. Members we have now come out with an amendment, amendment No.8, dropping "That leave be granted to introduce a the word "sweeper" from the Bill. Bill further to amend the Delhi Motor Vehicles Taxation Act, 1962." SHRI SEZH1Y AN (Kumbakonam): For the word "sweeper" what word have you put The motion '1'0'< odopted. in ? SHRI RAGHU RAMAIAH I intra· ducct the Bill. SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY: We are completely omitting sub-sub-clause (ii) of sub-clause (I) of clause 10. That was the main objection with regard to clause 10 of Bill. As we his are now taking away that 12.19! brs. word, I ho!"" han. Members will agree to the other portions of the Bill. I, therefore, request that consideration of the Bill be REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS AND resumed. DEATHS BILL-Celllld. Duty of certain per.tOn.' to nmi/I' hirlh MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Motion moved: and drath.1 alld to o.rti/l' call.!C of death. "That the debate on the Bill to provide THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI for the regulation of registration of births K. S. RAMASWAMY) : On behalf of Shri and deaths and for matters connected Y. B. Chavan, I beg to move: therewith, as ~ssed by Rajya Sabha, which was adjourned on the 14th Novem. "That the debate on the Bill to provide ber, 1968, be resumed now." for the regulation of registration of births and deaths and for matters connected DR. RANEN SEN (Barasat): Sir, 1 therewith, as passed by Rajya Sabha, want to draw your attention to certain facts which was adjourned on the 14th Novem- in regard to this Bill. It is not a fact that ber, 1968, be resumed now." earlier, when this Bill was being discussed, certain Members only objected to the use of the word "swee!"'r" in the Bill. If I When the Bill was being considered on remember correctly-and the other Members the 14th November last, some han. Members here will bear me out-most of the Members objected to the word "swee!"',' mentioned had raised many very important points !"'r· in sub-clause (I) of clause 10. taining to this Bill and the han. Minister got the discussion adjourned saying that Govern· It was said that this word denoted a ment would go into the details of the thing particular community and that we should not and bring forward adequate amendments to impose a statutory obliption upon this improve the Bill. Members were in favour community. In the Hindi translation of the of such a Bill as a positive thina; only, aertain lacunae were pointed out. Now, we Bill the word "sweeper" was translated as see that he has accepted only eoe amendment "Bhanai" and Bhansi is notified as a which he has placed before the House. The Scheduled Caste. Government has not paid any attention to 50 tlnlrod~ with the rewmmendation of the President. 221 Registratioll of MAGHA 29, 1890 (1S'AKA) Births and Deaths Bills 222 many other important points raised by MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you see MembeR. So, arc we to start discussing the amendment that was circulated then, it a new pointing out the defects and all that 1 was, "omit Jines 8 and 9". That was already In the Order Paper it is said that only moved. Now the Government is seeking the the amendments will be discussed. I do not pennission of the House to move an amend- knowwhat isthe position and why Govern- ment to "omit Jines 8 and 9". This is the ment has behaved in this peculiar way. position. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: At the mo- DR. RANEN SEN: Sir, in the last ses- ment there is the motion for the resumption sion, some of us had moved certain amend- of the debate on the Bill. When the debate ments and the discussion on the Bill was ad- on the Bill starts, you are free to cover journed. It is expected that those amendments the ground which was not covered on the last stand. On clause 10, I have a few amend- occasion. Only the clauses that were not taken ments. I may move them. up then will be open to debate. When we resume the debate, we will resume it from the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You will point at which it was closed. Now, I will put have to ~i e fresh notice. the motion for resumption of the dabate to the vote of the House. The question is : DR. RANEN SEN: The discussion on the Bill was adjourned. So, we need not "That the debate on the Bill to provide give fresh notice. for the regulation of registration of births and deaths and for matters connected MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Those who therewith, as passed by Rajya Sabha. had moved some amendments then, if they which was adjourned the 14th November, want those amendments to be revived, 1968, be resumed now." should give a formal notice of them to the Table Office and I will admit them. Let the The motion was adopted. debate continue in the meantime MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER So we SHRI E.K. NAYANAR: also want resume the debate on the Bill. to move amendments. SHRI LOBO PRABHU (Udipi): The MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: Whatever amendment is only to clause 10. What about amendments you want to move, you aive earlier amendment s which were also the fresh notice because the old amendments subject of objection to the Bill on which lapsed and if you want to revive thcm, you adjournment was sought? give fresh notice. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Whatever SHRI TENNETI VISWANATHAM : the House had approved, the clauses of the When the discussion on the Bill was adJour- Bill, the portion of the Bill stands. No w, we ned, it was adjourned toacther with the are resuming it from the point we adjourned amendments which were liven notice of. it. What was it that was adjourned? It was the discussion on the Bill and the amend- ,,) ~ 'Ii~"", ~ ~~I!l : ments that was adjourned. What is the use '3"'i11l1m ~~, ~'!fr lf~'m" it ~r ~ of askina us to aive fresh notice? Was it a case where on account of the several objec- filii 'fil: m'R ~rn ~ it; m if ~~ tions raiaed the Government wanted to witb- it~ if>{ ~ ~, ~flI r ;:fllli 'fil: m ~ draw the Bill or pass over the next item with a view to introduce another Bill 1 In '11f t~~~~~~1~t I that case, we will live fresh notice or our amendments. Otherwise, if the debate on SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY: It has the old Bill continues, weneed not live beeD circulated. fresh notice of our amendments. '" "'" SItmf f'InIft 1Jm ~ MR. DEPlTIY-SPEAKER : A. the boa. t~·~~ftl Member is perhaps aware, on proroplloll of 223 Rlgistration of FEBRUARY 18, 1969 Birth and Deaths Bills 224 the session, all the old notices lapse. Those 15fT 'frW ~ 1 ~ ~t~ {:t who had moved amendments then may give fresh notice of the amendments they want «'liefT ~ ' '~ ~~ 1fiT ~ ~t ~ to move. I will admit them. A formal notice s~H ~ ? needs to be given to the Table Office of reviviug the old amendments. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: There was some confusion. The position is this, One Now let us resume the debate. About amendment was then moved, namely, omit moving fresh amendments, if they give ade- lines 8 and 9' and it was before the House. quate notice, they would be admIssible. Once it i~ moved, it fhrms part of the pro- ceedings. Now there are two new govern- SHRI LOBO PRABHU : Should I begin ment amendments and r am permitting the with this amendment or with my amendment Minister to move them. on Clause 10 ... MR. K. S. RAMASWAMY: Myamend- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER We were ment NO.8 omitted the word 'Sweeper', 1 on Clause 10 ... now move amendments, No. 9 and No. 10, which are only cnnsequential amendments in relation to amendment No.8. SHRI LOBO PRABHU: I would like to repeat ... 1 beg to move : Page 6, line 10,- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Let the for "(iii)" slIbstitlllr "(ii)" (9) lIovernment amendments be moved first. The Page 6, line 13,- hon. Minister may make it clear as to what for "(iv)" slIbstitllte "(iii)" (10) he wants to omit. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: 1 would SHRI SEZHIYAN (Kumbakonam) : request the hon. Minister to rcad the Clause What is the position? Are you going clause as amended, so that the members will under- by clause? stand it. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We were on Clause 10 when a serious objection was MR. K. S. RAMASWAMY: If my taken to the word 'Sweeper'. So, when we amendment No.8 to Clause 10 is accepted, resume the debate now, we begin from (ii)of sub-clause (I) will be omitted, There- Clause 10. There are some amendments to fore, my amendments NO.9 and No. 10 are be moved ... only consequential. (iii) will be numbered as (ii) and (iv) will be numbered as (iii). SHRI DEORAO PATIL (Yeotma\): ~'Il' ~ ~ ii'efTll'T '" :J!'. m-T1I : have my amendment to Clause 10 ... ~ f~ ~t lf 'I~ 'f.'t ~m ~ f;:riT iT'lfT ~~ll' ~~iic t~ ~ if "f ~i'f ~ I i\« MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: 1 will per- mit you to move that. Mr. Lobo Prabhu. ~ll' I);T l1'~"I~if f [Dr. Ranen Sen] SHRI E. K. NAY ANAR : Before I come fail to understand how the keeper or owner to clause 10 proper, I would like to say that of a place set apart for disposal of dead in the case of births and deaths in a planta- bodies can say what they cause of the death tion. The superintendent of the plantation, is. One can understand a medical man shall give or cause to bo given to saying it. A medical man could say or a the registrar the information. This midwife can say in a restricted way what clause virtually makes the superintendent of the cause of the death is. But how can the the plantation a sub-regitrar. I am shocked to keeper or owner of a place set apart for the find that the special status of the plantation disposal of dead bodies say what the cause is still maintained even today, I strongly of death is ? Therefore, in may amend- suggest that this clause should he dropped ment, I have sought to delete lines 19 to 22 and no special status should be given to the at page 6, so that persons who ha',e not the plantation in this regard. So, that parti- capacity or the qualifications to determine cular provision should be altered. the cause of death are not put to unnece- On clause 10, I would suggest that sub- ssary harassment. Secondly, if such a broad clause (3), a clause should be added about clause as this is accepted, than it would starvation deaths. Even during the British create a lot of harassment for the common period, there was no provision for recording people in that area. Therefore, I move for starvation deaths, and they same provision the deletion of those lines. is being continued even today. According I beg to move : to the official statistics, no single person has died since Independence due to starva- r~ e 6,- tion. All starvation deaths arc recorded as Omit lines 19 to 22. (16) having been due to some disease. There- Page 6. - fore, I submit that a new clause shOUld be added after sub-clause (3) in clause 10. after line 33, illsert - "Provided that in all cases the infor- lilT ~ sn;m ,Q'11TT : "''lT1:!fe'f 11~~, mant shall be paid conveyance expenses by ~1I 1f<'fpr 'for :at!!!:r li~ ~ f'fO If'f;fiic ~ the Registrar cocerned if the informant li~t ~f ~~ spent anything on conveyance to give the !Hit'fO ;;r-ll 'A'h: 11\l!f 'for information". (17) f'fOliT r ~ o;rn: ~~'f f~ir~rft f~ '''i o;rn: irfs'f'l'!' liT ~"'1' ~i mfG' ~ ~ 'f SHRI TENNETI VISWANATHAM : In addition to what hon. friend has said, I would If{ ~ I ~f'f 'f ~l1 t ~ if ~'1'' !f ~ lfT'f like to say that in most cases, the cause of ~, ;;rf,T 'fOT{ fll''f ~ liT ~f~'f'l'!' ~a ic death can be gone into only in post mortrm. It is not always easy to say why a particular o;rTfG' ~r ~ I li~ ~ r~ft ~r ~ f'f' lICf person died. So to require such a certificate "'~ "fr~ ;;r'H 'iT-ll o;rT, ll<:l!T 'f'T ~f r~ from the persons of the type described is 'f'~ ifit I ~ ~ 'f'T 1:!fT;; ~1I ifTff 'f'T somewhat exacting. It well be wrong, and, if therefore, it is much better that the reference ;q);:: f1!<'fT'fT 'if ~'i ~ f'f' lIllFr ~ m'f"f to these health attendants and chowkidars etc. if ~ t:J:'f' iiI';:1f ;qn: ~~ if; 1I1f1f ~'f' CilifUj be entirely removed. It is only a doctor who could perhaps certify as to the cause of f f~ ~ ~ ~ff ~, 'if ~ ~ f~ m death; but even the doctor cannot certify fi !~ ~ . ~ r 'f1f 'l' ~ liT ~·n 1-\ ;qn: ~ correctly in certain cases. Recently, we had oqfUj ~ ~~i"f, l1T<'f'fT liT 'lTnT I ;;r;:1f a case where the All Indian Radio had anno- unced that a particular diaoitary had itr lIliIf 'f~ 'f'T ~ft'f~ ~ if; f<'ft; m died, but he continued to live for two more ~, ! '" 1I111f m ~ , m~~ flfn ~~ ~, ~ mf~ ~ It is true that the Cause of death cannot be ascertained by certain people. It is not m~ !rr~ ~ m>:r f<:<'fr:jPT 'f;T .,r As I said, Rs. 25 crores worth of proper- But the police kept quiet. Openly, these ty has been destroyed. Did it happen sudden- things were published in their own papers. Iy? On 25th August, 1967, a similar orgy of Shri Umanath culled out all those cuttings violence was perpetrated throughout Bombay. and save copies of those things to the Prime The Central Committee of the Communist Minister and the Home Minister two yean Party of India (Marxist which was then in ago. May I just draw your attention to just session in Madurai took note of the serious- one or two things. The major contributillll ness of the problem and deputed Mr. Uma- factor for the continuation and aa:enutation nath to go there. The Chief Minister of of fear and insecurity amongst the South Madras at that time, the late Mr. Annadurai, Indians is the deliberate conduct of the police also considered it a serious matter and depu- services biased in favour of the Shiva Scna ted one of his party MPs, Mr. Krishnamoor- and bearing ill-will to South Indians as IUCh, thi. Both these MPs went to Bombay and which takes various forms such as for insta- conducted a detailed enquiry. It was not for nce ignorina requests for protection. Any the purpose of striking the headlines, but amount of request may be made that they they wanted Government to take serious note should be protected from these atllll:ks, but of the Shiv Sella activities. They aubmitted a the police just stands by when the attac:ks joint report to their respective partiel. They are taking place and just krcps 011 Iootina 233 No-Confidence MOlioll MAGHA 29, 185/0 (SAKAl No-Confidellce Molion 234 on. This is the type of thing that has happen- what action the Maharashtra Government ed. Incidents after incidents of this type has taken against those people who had indul- have happened. Then, they wore not taking ged in so many murderous assults? How any preventive measures. May we ask what many people have been hauled up for arson preventive measures they took? When openly when so many huts were burnt down '1 How it had been adverti.ed that before a particu- many people have been hauled up in the lar date if the non-Maharashtrian work ers courts for having indulged in murderous and the non-Maharashtrian middlo class attacks On the comll1on people, for having people and the non-Maharashtrian shop- burnt down their houses and for having burnt keepers did not leave their place, their place down their shops? Has anything been done would be attacked and burnt down, when in this regard? Let him list out the number openly notice had been given in that behalf, of cases where action has been taken. Let may we ask whether th' Maharastra Govern- him also tell us the result of those actions. l11ent lifted even their littk fioga to sec to Why was it that the police of Maharashtra it that proper protection was given to thl! did not take up this questions energitically ? peopk and to the citizens of thi, country'? We asked for nothing more than the proh'c- For example, even in a trade union stru- tion that should have bc(;n given to the onJj- ggle, ewn "hen a small thig happens, imme- nary "itizells of this country. llut did the dia!cly they come out with stories of commu- Maharashtra Govrrnment move a little nist ,iolence, this, that and the other or of finger even '! non-communbt violence, and come out again- st the workers. But here is a case whl'll the Thirdly, they were not taking preventive people arc being incited against a people, measures but they were looking on while when fratriddal war amongst the people..' is incidents of assault and stabbing took place. being apenly encouraged. I would like the Fourthly. on certain occasions, they colluded Governmcnt to leU us what action has been with the Shiva Sma in the a.saults and taken by the State Government which belongs muredcrolls attacks on South Indians, and on to their own party. Not a single piece of certai" occasions took advantage of the riots action has been taken. That is why today to wreak police vengenancC! on South Indians we arc linding in Bombay the sort of thing and beat th:m up and arrested them indiscri- that has happened there. minately and tortured them in their lock-ups and foisted false cases on them. This was I would like to point out that it is not what was SPecifically don,. Ordinary prote- as if the Government was keeping quiet. Far ction was asked fur. But what action did lhi: from taking action against these people, Government of Maharashtra take against all what was the Government there doing '! these kinds of activities? All these years, how Here, ) charge the Congress Party and the many murders have taken place'! The things Congress Government as responsiblc for started at the time of the election contest of complicity with these attacks. I charge them Shri V. K. Krishna Menon. Shri Krishna with complicity because they by their open Menon was a candidate during the la,t words and spoken words had encouraged the general dections. How could the Congress activities of the Shiva Scna. Government take action against the Shiva Sena? After all, this Shiva Sen a helps them The Shiva Sena conducts a paper called to win seats. It rouses the Maharashtrian. Marmik. For months it has been writing against the non-Maharashtrians. Here is Shri this kind of eKciting stulf. It is not hidden. V. K. Krishna Menon who is a non-Mahara- Nobody can deny that fact. Shri Y. B. shtrian, and, therefore, they ask the people Chavan cannot now come and show a single to vote against him and burn the houses and i~sue of the Murmik which did not contain attack the non-Maharashtrian people who this kind of incitement against the non-Maha- might support him. This was the type of rashtrians. The a ara~ tra Government propapnda. When the CongrCfiS Party wan- know about this. The Chief Minister of ted to wreak advantage of this propapnda, Maharalhtra must have known what stutl' how could you expect the Congress Party and this paper was writing and also what type of the Congress Government to take action activities the Shiva Sena was indulging in. apiDst the Shivs Sena and its poisonous BUI then he goes as the chief &uc&t of Ihe activities? Could Shri Y. B. Chavan teU US paper on the OCC8ISiOll of its anniversary; he 235 No-Confidence Mol;on FEBRUAR Y 18, 1969 No-C()nfidence Mol;on 236 [Shri P. Ramamurti) village came and started a shop, those very goes there as the chief guest, as an honoured people encouraged him and that man built guest. The Shiva Sena conducts a drama; houscs, tow-storeyed houses and three-store- the name of the drama is 'The Blind man yed houses and he became prosperous. Rela- grinds and the dog eats away', meaning ting this story, Shri Vasant Rao Naik thereby that the blind man goes on grinding said: alia or some such thing but instead of his being able to eat it, somebody else, the dog "The instanc~ from my childhood goes of a Sout h India comes and takes away or only to show how we would not allow eats away the fruits of his labour. Adver- a man from amongst overselves to have tisements were there about this drama. Shri this shop. We brought all mann:r of Naik cannot escape by saying that he did difficulties in his way and made him go not know what this drama contained. The bankrupt, but when an outsider opens drama had been advertised about very much. a shop, we behave with him as if he is The advertisement that was issued about this some very big man. a good man who drama was to the effect Ihat tho drama has come to make some favours on us. would make Ihe outsiders feel one nighl in We should ponder over this experience Yama's kindom. If any outsider, Ihat is, a non- of my childhood if any such things Maharashtrian would see that drama, he would happen at our hands today. If we do feel as if he has spent one night in Yama's that, many of our d illiculties would be kingdom. ThaI was how the drama was ad- removed." vertised about. And our friend the Chief Mini Sler of Maharashtra. Shri Vasant Rao attends Where did ho say that? In what con- that drama as the chief honoured guesl. He text did he say that? He said that in the is there throughoul the drama. So, he cannot context of th'! annivorsary of that paper, say that he did nol know whal the drama Mtlrmik, a papor which is just spitting contained. After seeing this drama which venom against the p! ople who do not speak was nothing but vindictiveness and vitupera- the Marathi language, the common people tion against, the ordinary people who are not who do not speak the Marathi language. In big capitalists, what did he say? They are that context, this man goes and talks like not coming out against Ihe big capitalisls this. He cannot eseap, by saying that h! like the Birlas and Tatas and Poddars who was talking of something else. He further are nol Maharashtrians, but they come oul said: only against the ordinary worker and the ordinary poor hotel-keeper. Shri Vasant Rao "With all my heart, on behalf of the attended that whole drama and at the end of people who arc the gods, 1 have my it he blessed that organisation, He gave best wishes on behalf of you all; beca- blessings to Marmik and he gave everything use my good wishes may not be enough, a blessing. In his speech which is published, may the Marm;k, every day progress, he relates a slory. When he was a yong boy, and may this cartoon weekly do good in his village a man from the village started unto Maharashtra." a shop. Unfortunately, Ihe people of the village did not encourage him and that man This is how the Congress Government ultimately wen I backrupt, but then when there has been actively encouraging this somebody from outside came, by 'outside' fascist organisation, this organisation which is meant a man from outside that village seeks to wreak vengeance on the non-Maha- the word used in Marathi is very significant; rashtrians, people, which seeks to rouse the the word is upar.; it means somebody, who basest passion a f the Maharashtrian people is an outsider, outside, the State, that is, against non-Maharashtrians, allainst 'out. non-Maharashtrian ... siders' as they call and gO on with violence day after day. T his is what bas been hap- SHRI JAGANATHA RAO JOSHI pening and the Congress Government in (Bhopal) : It may be a person from the Maharashtra has been caina it on. north also. Next year you find the President of the SHRl P. RAMAMURTI: It may be Maharashtra Conpess Committee attendiq so, When somebody from outside tbe the annual celebration of this very paper_ 237 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SA.(A) No-Confidence Motion 238 May I just ask these people to give me one "In a statement here before a meeting quotation from their speeches where they which was attended by prominent indus. come out with an open condemnation of trialists and busin:ssmen it was said the activities of these people? What is it that this great metropolitan city has that they do? May we also be enlightened been a victim of senseless orgy ... " about the action taken against the perpetra- tors of these crimes? Very good. Who is to be blamed for that? Did they come out with a condemnation of tho perpotration of this orgy, of the ideology Therefore, what happoned later is no- of Hitler. After all, Bal Thackersey has thing to be wondered at. After all, you been openly saying that he is an admirer sought the hdp of this organisation because of Hitler ond he wants another Hitler to it was very handy. Big bus in ~ssmen were rise because, according to him, otherwise behind it. I know one Mr. Poddar, a big the problems of this country cannot be sol- businessman from Rajasthan addressed an ved. Do they come out L'Ondemning the organisation of graduate students in an arca semeless hate propaganda that has been where thore ar" workers from Rajasthan going on for years under the auspices of and he said: Shri S. K. Patil is 1I11fortunatly Shiv Sena ? Nothing of the kind has been played OUI; we must haw olhor people to don:. Thoy want the C,·ntral Government rely upon and therefore we must create a to deal firmly. With what do they want the Shiv S:na". We also know that the Indiull Governm,"1 to denl firmly? The paper Express unfortunately had written an edito- sa ~ : rial condemning tho activities of Shiv Sen a and demanded from the Central Government "The representatives of trade and in- firm action against them. Then there was a dustry have today expressed the view big busin:ssman, I think Ramkrishan Bajaj, that the agitation launched by Shiv Sena who imm,diately telephoned the office of has been gravely exploited and taken tho paper and asked them how they wrote undue advantage of by the Communists such a kind of editorial. He told them that and other anti-social elements." such editorials shall not be written. Th·, papor thon stopped writing such things. As far as big business interests are concerned, there is no selfish interest or exploitation We know which are the forces that arc in them ; no, they do not indulge in exploi- rallied behind this Shiv Sena. These are tation ; they are only engaged in business. forces of big business in this country. They For what purpose? An altruistic purpose know with th: continuing conditions the nishkama karma. The biggest nishkama working class and the common people of karm;s are our businessmen. When this this country arc bound to unite and rise lawlessness was going on for days together. against their rule. They want diversionary in spite of it, they did not come out in open activities. For these p:ople it docs not condemnation of it. They simply said "the matter if people have to be killed, if pro- Communists are exploitina this". Probably, perties have to be looted, if hotds have to they would add that it is the Communists be brought down, if small shopes have to that have attecked them. be attached. For these peopk it does not matter who attack them. They do not bo- Then I cannot understand another thing. ther about law and order, sacredness of life The funniest part of the whole episode is the and prop:rty. All that they are bothered Maharashtra Government getting a statement about is the property of big businoss people. from him when he is inside jail. I do not When it comes to the question of prop:rty mind their getting any statement from Bal of commnn people, the workina class and Thackery. I am not one of those who poorer sections it do:s not matter for them. bel ieve that people who arc in detention or acr~dness of their private property is all in jail should be prevented from issuing that matters to them. statements. But under the existina rules they are not allowed to iuue any statement. After all this we find a statement issued When I was detained preventively 10 many by I certain bill indlIItriaiist of Bombay. In rcatrictions were put on me. Even with the StalumtM it appeared : ccprd to interviews with relatives restrictions 239 o Confid~nce Molion fEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 240 [Shri P. Ramamurti] "Last year, I referred in my speech to were put on me. When one of my friends certain disturbing trends in our national wrote a book on atom when he was inside affairs. Parochial rigional, caste and jail, although the book was on atom, the communal movements have caused Maharashtra Government on this very same tensions and violence in the country." Shri Vasant Rao prevented its publication although it had nothing to do with politics. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: It will come Then we had to go to the Supreme Court next year. to get a verdict that the Maharashtra Government have no business whatsoever to SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : I know, as a prevent the publication of such a book. matter of fact I have very deep suspicion, that Yet, here is a man, at whose instance such just as the Congress Party and the Maharashtra orgies of violence have been perpetrated, Congress utilized the Shiva Sena for its own he is allowed to issue a statement, and that purpose, for the purpose of winning a seat, statement is allowed to be published. It is for the short gain of winning a parliamentary all right. But what docs it say? It says: scat, similarly, this party or some of its leading lights-l do not know whether the "At any cost, our struggle should not be Home Minister is also part of that; I do allowed to be exploited by the Com- not know but I have got my own deep munists". suspicion-our this question of the border This is the statement. dispute between Maharashtra and Mysore, since the Mahajan Report has gone against SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN (Khargonc) : them, they are trying to utilize this orgy of It was Sbri Madhu Mehta's draft. violence in order to bring pressure on the Ceutral Government to settle this border SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : Of course, , issue in their favour. I have my own can understand my friends of the Swatantra doubts about it. Party being worried about it because after all it is one of their men, I think Shri AN HON. MEMBER: Question. Madhu Mehta, that probably drafted the statement. After the interview by Shri SHRI P. RAMAMURTI: He may Madhu Mehta, a Stalwart of the Swatantra question it. But when this party, leading lights Party there, that statement was issued. I of this party can descend to such a low level, do not hnow whether he has anything to do what else can I think of them 1 Otherwise, with it, but this is a fact. how is it that even today the Central Govern- ment have not come out very firmly against The point is this. Ordinary working this? class people arc b:ing beaten to pulp for days together. If such a thing had happened I told the Prime Minister that we are anywhere clse, what would have the Congress prepared to co-operate, I said, '" know Government at the Centre done? And the that it is a problem which cannot be strange part of it is that here is the President tackled only by the administration ; I know addressing a joint session of both Houses that it is a political problem and it is a of Parliament and there is not even a question of spreading a false ideology mention of this orgy of violence that took among the common people this country", place in Bombay about four days brfore he I offered to the Prime Minister-' do not addressed us. know if I told so to the Home Minister; I do not remember that-let us jointly ao SHRI SURENDRANATH DWIVEDY out to Bombay, let the leaders of ail (Kendrapara) : It was written earlier. political parties, who are opposed to this kind of senseless violence, go to Bomby, SHRI P. RAMAMURTI: can you find conduct a series of meetings and campaign a sinale reference to what happened in against the spread of this poisonous propa- Bombay in his address? Nothinl whatso- ganda. That offer was not accepted, I can ever. So far as the President is concerned, understand why that offer was not accepted, absolutely nothing has happened. All that How can the Prime Minister aa:ept that he would say was : offer when members of her own party are 241 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) No-Conjideflu Mallon 242 openly and aClively encouraging Ihis kind of tefs from Trlangana area were there and all the a Ihing ? MLAs from Telangana area were there. I dare say that the MLAs consisted of the stalwarts You are nOI able 10 sellle the problem of the Congress Party from the Telangana of Maharashtra versus Mysore because you areo. So, it was open to them all these cannot lay down any norms for selliing years to point out transgressions of that these disputes. Here is a party which, after agreement and to sec to it that agreement twenty years of independence, is not capable was observed both in the letter and in the of laying down any democratic principles spirit. Nothing prewnted them from doing with regard to border disputes on the basis that. Certainly something had gone wrong. of which this problem can be settled. That Who is responsible for it? The Conllress is why a Maharashtrian Congressman will Party and the Central Government are res- takc up cudgels against a Mysore Congress- ponsible for it ~cause it was the responsi- man. Shri Nijalingappa is the President of bility of th; Cmtral Go"ernment to see the Congress and Shri Chavan is the Home that it was carri~d out. Today we are told Minister. Shri Chavan will say that this by no less a porson than the Chief Minister report must be rejected and Shri Nijalingappa of Andhra Pradesh, Shri Brahmanand Reddy, will say, "No, not a single comma of this that some disgruntled politi"ians arc behind report can be altered." That is the party. this agitation. Disgruntled politicians! What am I to do '? SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE Take the question of Tclangana. I do (Balrampur) Of the Congress Party. not want to go into all the problems of Telangaoa, I know that Telangana has SHRI P. RAMAMURTI Of course. been a backwald rogion but it is not the Who clse can bo disgruntled whon tho Con- question of its backwardness that I am gress Party is in pOW"f in Andhra Pradesh? concerned with now. When the Vishal Disgruntlement (.;omes when one is not taken Andhra State was "rca ted there was an in the Ministry. Th" disgruntlement is due to agreement signed by the leaders of the that and who "an ~ disgruntled e c~ t some Congress Party from T dangana as well as of the leaders of the Congress Party'! I do the leaders of the Congress Party from the not know if Dr. Channa Reddy is responsible coastal Andhra 3n:as. That agreement was for it or Shri Vengala Rao is responsible. I okayed by the Central Government. A "an name half a dozen Reddys of TelangaD8 regional roun"il was to be set up and for a who might b" disgruntled; that is a ditTerent certain period reservation of jobs in the matter. But when su"h a serious thing has Telangana area were agreed to. The Parlia- happenod, when the Tdugu.spcakillJ people ment enacted the law, Now it was the bolonging to two different regions of the responsibility of the Congress Government State arc b"ing encouraged to enter into a at the Centre to see tha t this law was fratricidal war in this country, when thou- actually observed. They never bothered to sands of people have fled from the Telan- see to it whether it was actually abserved gana area in fcar, when murder, arson and or not. That regional "ouncil that was set looting has been taking pl."e systematically up ronsisted mostly of Congressmen, the for a numbor of days, is it not the elemen- sial warts of the Congress Party in Telangana. tary duty of the Chief Minister of thai State, Shri Brahmanand Reddy, to identify SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH (Nand those disgruntled politicians, aMounce their yal) : All members from Telangana. names before the pUblic, pillory them and tell the poople not to give any quarter to SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : I know Ihal those people ? Why does Shri Brahmanand Ihere were other people also but I said that Reddy not do such a thillJ ? il consisted mostly of Conaressmen. I know, Why does he not do il ? He does not Members of Parliament were there. do it precisely because these people belolll SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH ; Not to his party. I do not bother whether you all Members of Parliament. are loing to take any criminal action lIpinst these people or not. I would ask the Con- SHRI P. RAMAMURll: Members of gress Party that here is the Party that dare Parliamenl from Telanpna were there; Minis- DOt take evm disciplinary action from the 243 No-Confidence Motion FEBR(;AR Y IR, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 244 [Shri P. Ramamurtil about events in West Bengal were point of view of the Congress Party itself. manufactured and doled out." You cannot even identify them; you cannot even send them out of your Party. And you Manufactured by whom? Not obviouly by say such a Party in the country is the only the United Front there, not by Mr. Jyoti Party which is going to bring about millen- Basu, not by other members of the Commu- nium in the country, the stability in the nist Party or other people there. Obviously, country and so on. I am not making a joke. these stories were manufactured here in New The Congress Party should have some in- Delhi, in th' Hom, Ministry of the trospection. If this is the type of Party you Government of India. ~ manufactured are going to build up, how long do you Naxalbari stories-what a tremendous thing think this country is going to tolerate such it was! About gheraos, they said too many a Party? Already the sings are there. gheraos had harp on :d. Aft:r all, you went on doing propaganda that the Communists That takes me on to what has happened are responsible for the slow down of pro- in West Bengal, in Bihar, in Punjab and in duction because of the gheraos that have other places. Last year, in 1967, when the taken lac~. Your own statistics published Congress Party got the drubbing from the by the Government of India's Labour De- people of this country, what was the reaction partmont show that the total number of of the Congress Party? Anybody would have man-days lost as a result of the gheraos in thought that a Party which had ruled this the whole country in the year 1957 was country for 20 years, which goes about tom- 67,000 whereas the total number of man- toming that this is the Party which won days lost as a result of lock-outs, not Independence for the country, would at least strikes, ecaus~ the employers wanted to have sat up and have seriously gone into in- retrench workers and the workers would trospection as to why it is that the people of not agree to it, is about ~ millions. this country, by and large, who should have rallied round the Congress Party as a 3! million man-days were lost. That did result of what it has done, should reject the not bother them. But when the communists Congress Party. They should have gone into wanted to prevent the retrenchment, then introspection as to what it is they have done, they started saying that the whole country's what is wrong with regard to the policies production was b;ing lost ; they were traitors that they have pursued, that the people are and all that. (Interruptions) All these years going against the Congress Party. That much the Hindustani -speaking workers of Bengal introspection was expected. Did the Congress did not support us. Mr. Chavan went there, Party ever go into such introspection? I think our Deputy Prime Minister went there, the the only introspection that was done at Jabal- Agriculture Minister also went there; every- pur or somewhere, where the All-India Con- body went there. They went there to increase gress Committee met immediately after their the production (Interruptions) The Bihari defeat, was that they passed a Resolution- workrers had the experience of the Congress my esteemed friend, Shri C. Subramaniam Government; after sending away the United moved a Resolution-saying, "We should Front Ministry, dusing the last nine months now move much more quickly towards so- of President's rule which is the rule of Shri- cialism." He, at the same time, confessed mati Indira Gandhi aDd Shree Chavan, 60,000 that he did not know what that socialism jute workers, all belonging to Bihar, had been is. Did the Congress Party ever consider retrenched aDd seDt home. That experieDce what it is that led to their debacle and try was there. We, during our period, encouraged to change them? Nothing of the kind. thcm and told them, 'You fight', and during That is why we know what happened in that period, the retrenchment had been West Bengal after the elections. For exam- stopped as a result of the struggle. Therefore, ple, in the Special Correspondent Despatch what happened in regard to the Hindustani- of Times of India, I find a wonderful sen- speaking working class? It is DO wonder that, tence. I quote: in the entire industrial belt, not a sinaIe seat was won by the Congress party; in 24 Par- "Let it be admitted at this distance of ganas, Hooghly, Howarh, Duraapur, Burdwan time, there was quite a bit of fantasy in in the entire industrial belt not a single seat the maDDer in which tremendous news has beeD woo by the Concrcas and yet, they 245 No-Confidence Molioll MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) No-Confidence Motion 246 would say, 'Our INTUC is a recognised Working Committ~e of the Congress Party organisation'. I am not bothered about the met for 2i days. Does it now consider that results of the election.. What I wanl to point some of the basic policks which this govern- oul is this. ment are pursuing, the policy with regard to Contre-State relations, the policies with In th': period of 1967, every little thing regard to the economy of this country, the political policies which the Congress wa' manufactured and magnified in to a huge Government aro pursuing, need a change 1 thing and somehow or other the government Absolutely not. was got rid of. They got the hdp of some of those defectors; they wanted to get the help All that the Working Committee is of Mr. P. C. Ghosh and Mr. Ashu Ghosh. thinking of is to call those gentleme n from Now what has happened to Mr. P. C. Ghosh West Bengal, Shri Atulya Ghosh and Dr_ and Mr. A [Shri P. Ramamurtil Having seen this Government perpetrat- matters? On those matters Governmcnt iog all these things, I would only ask of choose, and not on other matter. This is every member to search his conscience and the reality. As a result of the policy follo- give t ~ answer wheth:r such a Government wed upto now, even now at least 10,000 deserves the confidence of this House. I Central Government employees are in the know that as result of the majority they streets. When Government want to continue have in this House, they may be able to the same policy of attacking the common have this motion rejected. people and introduce no change in their basic policy, how can the ~o le expect But tnere is a higher conscience the anything better from this Government ? conscience of the people of this country. J know if tomorrow that conscience is appeal- Here is a Government which, in order to ed to, if we go to the people and ask their see that their policy of attacking the common verdict on theso very issues. there will be no people is perpetuated, are prepared to use doubt atso~ ~r that this Government will the machinery of the Governors of States to go lock, stock and barrel. dismiss elected governments by a very strange interpretation of the instrument of instruc- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Motion tions and the Constitution. Here is a mowd: Government prepared to use the army and the police in order to thrust an unwanted "Thst this Hous'! expresses its want of Ministry on the common people of a State. confidence in the Council of Ministers." In the bargain, here is a Government which SHRI R. D. BHANDARE (Bomboy uses the military and the police in such a Central): It is but natural for the leader of way that hundreds and thousands of people the Communist (Marxist) Party to be very were beaten, batoncharged, lathi-charged and loud and vociferous in moving the motion tortured. Here is a Government that is of no confidence in the Government. I prepared to resort to the worst type of say naturally, because very recently they violence in order that its policies may run in have won the elections in West Bengel and this country. want to adopt a victorious altitude to the Indian politics and they are therefore pre- We know, for example, what happened pared to any extent and accuse the Govern- in Assam. We know the attitude of some ment here and bring in all sorts of fictions of the Congressmen of Assam on the instead of placing facts before the House. reorganisation question. We know how they did not Hinch from unleashing the Let me come to the first point. They activitics of the Lachit Sena. We know say that Congress was responsible for toppl- that the police of Assam looked on when ing the Governments formed by the opposi- during the Republic Day celebrations the tion parties .. .(lnterruptions.) I shall take up Lachit Sena trampled under foot the national the points in the order in which they flag. They will talk of honouring the national appeared in the motion, Now, what are the inte&lity and they will talk of patriotism and facts? Has this Goverrment toppled down all that, but when it comes to a question of any SVD or UF Government? I deal with tkeir own sordid, narrow interests, they have Bengal first because they are bound to be no hesitation in trampling under foot even ,·ociferous so far as the Bengal elections are tbe national filii. This is the type of concerned Ilnd they give that as an illustra- Government we have. tion and say that the COlliress was res~Clll i ble for toppling the Bengal United Front Here is a Government which, in order Government under Mr. Ajay Mukerjee. I hop to serve its sordid, base interests, is prepared my hon. friend moved the motion wiD Dot deny to make one section of people fight another, facts. and stili looks on. Here is a Government It is a fact that Dr. P. C. Ghosh, Food whose important members have been encou- and Agricultwe Minister in the Go_t rqina such fasist ideologies in the country of Mr. Ajoy Mukerjee went out ... and have refused to taII.. firm action apinst sucb orpnisations. Yet it talks of national AN. HON. MEMBER: In leagUC with intCllllltion and all that kind of thina. Mr. Jll&iiwan Ram. 249 No-Co"foJnrce Molio" MAGHA 29. 1890 (SAKA) No-Coflfitkwce MOl;"" 250 SHRI R. D. BHANDARE: Whether in face the House. And I, therefore, said that league with him. or whether you were res- he did neither of them. What was the ponsible-ali that is irrelevant. reason? The reason was that the United Front Government wanted to carry on the It is a fact - and not a fiction that he adminitration of the Government of West went out. The second development was Bengal without the requisite majority which that when Dr. P. C. Ghosh resigned his is the constitutional pre-requisite and consti. ministership and went out of the Gavernment. tutional pre-condition. In a sense they seventeen members of the lagislature also wanted to flout tho constitutional provisions went out of the Government along with him. and, at the same time, speak loudly in the name of democracy. They committed a SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU (Diamond rape on the Constitution and, at the same Harbour) : That was decided in Mrs.Such.ta time, the spoke very loudly in the name of Kripalani's house in delhi. the Constitution. That is exactly what had happend. Then the Congress there was SHRI R.D. BHANDARE: I do not know asked to form the Government, The whether it was decided in Delhi or whether Congres [Shri R. D. Bhandare1 So, Shri A. K. Mukherjee and Shri These are the figures, which disclose Jyoti Basu themselves requested the Governor clearly the trend. My friend has gone to to recommend President's rule: And, now the estent of saying that the whole of the they have the check to come before the working class went over to the communists House and say that it was the request of Mr. and not a single Candidate of the U. F. was Ajoy u er e~ and Mr. Jyoti Basu that rejected. Let us go through the figures President's rule was imposed. The UFo themselves in this region. You well find Government was not toppled by the Congress that in a number of constituencies, in spite at all. Let us come to Punjab. (/nterrll- of the fact that the opposition had a united ptions). front of all parties, the Congress had secured more votes than the candidates of the united MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Basll, FJont. That is the position so far as West pi case resume your seat. I have requested Bengal is concerned. (Interruption). J am you severaJ times. When Mr. Ramamurti talking of facts. (Lallghter). What is the was addressing thz House, h: was given a need to laugh 7 pationt hearing. SHRJ YOGENDRA SHARMA SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: He knows (Begnsarai) Is he talking of 1967 elrc- how to add ross the House. tion or the J969 elections? (Tnterfllpti",.) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: This is not MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He has fair. Let us give a patient hearing. quoted facts and figures. YOll could accept them or reject them. SHRI R. D. BHANDARE: When I am giving facts and figures. they are creating SHRI R. D. BHANDARE: The facts noise. I do not know what are the facts are not palatahle to them and therefore they I should give so that Ihe doubt in their are creating noise in the HOllse. mind may be resolved. \\-hen there were members of the I was coming to Punjab. There also, the Assembly who wanted to form a Government, Governor's reporl says: it was but natural for the ('ongress to support the party which was prepared to "Sardar Gurnam Singh, the leader form a Government. What was wrong of the People's United Front, called on about it? I do not understand the logic bo- me this morning and advisod me to reco- hind the statement that the Congress should mmend Presidents rule." not have supported Dr. P. C. Ghosh at all. (/ntcrl"lIpation). We have 10 consider these er~forc, when the UF leaders them- constitutional provisions calmly. logically selves ask for president's rulet, is it fair to and reasonably. If a party is in a position accuse the Congress of toppling the UF to form a Government singlehanded, cer- Governments 7 They have fallen by their tainly it has a right to do so. If the party deeds and utterances. which has the larg"st membership is not prepared 10 form a Government, it can cer- Cominll to the question of regional imba- tainly support the largest group, which is lances, it is not enough to take instances prepared to form a Government. where the people express themselves very loudly because of certain regional imbalances. The opposition says that the Congress tried to topple the Government. On page S Regional imbalance could be found of his report, the Governor says: virtually in all developzd countries. Leave aside the question of under developed "Shri Ajoy Mukherjee and Mr. countries. Even in tbe developed working Jyoti Basu urlled that I should reco- you will find people's wrath allainst Govern- mmend to you Prosident's rule, because ment because of the imbalance found in if the President's rule could be introduced same areas. Why is there a vociferous even for a day, they would withdraw demand for raisir.. the question of imbalaDce the .,itation." in the development of a particular area 1 2S3 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29. 1890'(SAKA) It is because there is "a revolution in expec· like because they are not clear about the facts, tations" of the people in under-developed they are not clear as to what has happend countries. People all over the world expect or what is happening in Maharattra. They too much. Therefore you will find that have criticised Vasantrao Naik for attending there is a revolution in the expectations of the first meeting held by Shiv Sena for inau- the people all over the world. Whether the gurating their paper. That was tbe time country is very much advanced like France when the child was born. I do not know or any other underdeveloped country people whether they are Jyotishis who can read do go against the Government for regional and foretell the future. imbalance. Because catain promises were made and because of t ~ economic position SHRI S. M. JOSHI: I can. as is found in the country certain promises were not fulfilled due to inability. Can we, SHRI R. D. BHANDARE : Then Shri therefore come f~r ard with a proposition Joshi would have come mith a Panchang I do that the Government ha. not been able to not think he has come here with a Panchall!( do away with regional imbalance and t ~re· That was the beginning. Whenever you- fore the Government should resign. The ngsters start an enterprise, it is but natural opposition parties were in power in some of that eldcrs should go and bless them on the the States. They will be in power in Bznga!. occasion. Bnt now after the Shiva Sena I doubt very much whether they will be able orgy what is the position? My hon. friend to do away with regional imbalance with has quoted what Shri Vasanl Rao Naik the twinkling of an eye. It take a long time. had said on that day, which quotation i. It is not the Government but the develop- bound to create a wrong impre'Sion. It is ment of economic position of the country wrong to say that it is only the southerners that will do away with regional imbalanco. or the northerners who were the targets of If resignation of the Govornment alon, will attack by the Shiva-S!na. I beg to differ from satisfy this apposition that is a different my hon. friend,. We equally condemn the malter. That then is a demand for pound of Shiva Sena as strongly as they do. We have flesh. I doubt whether the Opposition will done i I in fact and We shall continue to be bale to carryon the Government in West do so. Bengal. It is a doubtful proposition. We have tasted the wine and seen how bitter it I shall take them with me to the Worli is. The Bengal people have alr~ad tasted area and show what happened. In fact, it (Interruptions). right from Worli to Prabhadevi, and I can show to them that not a single incident has SiT, I come back to the point which is taken place in the labour area, in my const- bound to agitate thz minds of hon. Members ituency or in my own area. I am prepared of this House, and that is the orgy of to take them with me to that area. Shiv Sena in the city of Bombay. I do not know whether the Icadors of the Opposition AN HON. MEMBER: Show it to Shri who come from Bombay OT MahaTashtra aTC George Femanades. aware of the fact shat right from the beg- inning I am one of the cTitics of Shiv S=na. SHRI R.D. BHANDARE: Even my hon. I never supported it. I always opposed it. friend Shri Georlle Fornanade, is aWare of it. I always condemned it. Only on 26th Barring a few places, barring a few places January, our Republic Day, I had denoun- which are few and far between where the ced it. Shiva Sena people have a stronghold alonll SHRI S. M. JOSHI (Poona) What with bad elements have taken advant"lle of about the Govemmmt ? the situation, other arcas were free from inci- SHRI R. D. BHANDARE: I am dents ([flurrupliofls) I do not know what my coming to that. Why cannot he have some hon. friend Shri Kunte is tryinll to whisper or patience so that he can heaT and remove all murmur. He can also come with me. It is misuderstanding that is embedded in his true that there is apprehension in the minds mind due to newspaper reports? It it not of the minorities and almost all the people and fair to say that I am the General of the eVCll the Marathi-speakiDIL people that such • Sbiv Sen.. They have become so much r&leist o ....nisation illrowilli up and they all blind that they can accuse any penon they reel tbat such a fueist orpnisation should not 235 No-Cofl/idence Motion FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 256 [Shri R. D. Bhandare] Address as well as in connection with the be allowed to prosper or allowed budget and also in conneclion with the to become strong and therefore everybody various appropriations, for genuiDe criticism feels that all its activities should be con- in relation to the merits of particular demned. This is the mind of Maharashtrians Government policies. But, of course, I did and the Marathi-speaking people and this is not expect, and I am not disappointed in the mind of all the minorities. So, what is this expectation, that this debate would be the use of taking that instance up and bring concern~d with Government policies; for it a no-confidence motion against this Govern- has deFnerated into a slanging match between ment? the C.ommunist Party on the one hand and the Congress Party on the other. I do not SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) : A fire wish to participate at that level. enaine would have e~n better. SHRI R. D. BHANDARE : We can But the opportunity having been afforded certainly go to the people; all of us can go to me, I would like to use this occasion to to the people and tell t ~m not to encourage undertake a kind of review of the state of the Shiva Sena and not to encourage such the nation from the point of view of the parochial organisations. We can go to the poople as they see the state of the nation people and tell tham that it will take a long today, to give expression to the voice of the time to remo ~ regional imbalances. Why public in relation to the present state of the do we not go and explain things to the country rathery than the cacoponous voices people? Why should the opposition take of political parties. advantage of whatever happ"ns and try to make political capital out of such isolated This year began with a message from the happenings? It is as much the duty of the Prime Minister on the New Year's Day. Congressmen as of the Opposition to tell the A gist of the impression she made was reported people to keep away from such parochial by one of the correspondents present; she organisation. But instead of doing that, said or rather he has reported: they have comc fOJward here to bring no- confidence motions against the Government. "On economic issues, she exuded optim- A no-confidence motion is a powerful ism. On political issues, she displayed weapon, and the Opposition must learn" hen an aggressive self-confidence." and how to use it. Otherwise, it is a double- edFd weapon aDd it will recoil on them. As Not content with that, later on the 7th soon as this motion is defeated it will recoil January, speaking to an Indian audience in on them and it will show to the world that London, she asked rhetorically 'who can for no reason and for any reason whatsoever deny that for 21 years a tremendous affort they bring forward a motion of no-confidence has been made to lift the country up, an lIpiDst the Government, more specially when effort that has largely succeeded?" I am they have no ground, no substance, no sorry there was not anyone present there logic, no reason aDd no justice on their side. with sufficient courage flatly to deny that With these words, I oppose the motion. precise statement of the Prime Minister. SHRI N. DANDEKER (Jamnagar) If one were to ask the ordinary man what Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, the House will he would think of this kind of speech as to undoubtedly want to know why we abstained the state of the nation by the Prime from associatina ourselves with this motion. Minister, I feel sure he would asree with what We recognise that this has now become a a young brash German said in the early days kind of routine; and the futility of these of the Nazi regime; he wrote on the wall,- routine operations is particularly evident from I shall first read the German version and the sort of debate we have had so far on then translate it into English- this censure molion. I Suggest that first at present this is an empty ritual; particularly at the ommencement of the budget session "KEIN BRaT, KEIN BUlTER, UNO when repeated opportunities wi1\ be available KEIN EI ABER ElNE NEUE PEICHSK botb 10 COIIII«:tioD witb tbe Prcaldcnt's ANZELLEI". 237 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29, 1190 (SAXA) No-Confidence Motion 258 It means: prosperity. One such is qricultural income- tax. "No bread, no butter, no eggs; but a new house for the Prime Minister 7" Covering agricultural income-tall, it is said in justification of it that a level of A more sophisticated comment on the income would ellempt anyhow and only a state of the nation and I am indebted to few rich peasants and farmers will be tou- Shri M. R. Masani for having drawn my ched. Reviewing the history of the rural attention to it,-appeared in a poster that parts of this country over the last twenty was stuck up in Bombay and could be read years, one may ask: have they been doing on the 1st of January, I have taken the anything ellcept distributing poverty to the liberty slightly to expand it, and this is large and small farmers anywhere in the how it reads: rural areas? They have probably been the worst affected by almost all the measures that have been taken by government "Income-tax, surcharge, special surchagge: in relation to agriculture over the past twenty wealth tax, gift tax, estate dut ~or ora years; not having shared the prosperity, tion tax, company surtax. sales ta x;-P- such as it has been, of the urban population forms and prohibition;-water shortage, of this country, they have been at the receiv- housing shortage, power shortage, food ing end of the food control, alricultural price control, restrictions over the sale and shortage;-Water disputes language dis- movemellt of foodgrains and thing like food- putes, territorial disputes :-population grains every compulsory procurement, etc. explosion. Happy New year to you all." And now same of them have prosperity. The rural population of this country comprising the formers, peasants and the landless That is quite a succinct comment. workers, together with their families, consti- tute 80 per cent of the population of this All that I shall endeavour to do this country. Since we could not given prosperity afternoon in the few minutes at my disposal to all, is it the desire that in the few parts is to elaborate just those comments into a of the country where some section of the coherent criticism of the rather in coherent rural population have prosperity they should situation today in relr.tion to the policies be penalised for that reason? Do we not which this Government have been following want that those who are having suplus reso- over the last few years. Sir, on the agricultu- urces should put them to use or plouah them ral scene what we see is a somewhat mixed back into the land in the shape of all sorts situation: There have been droughts, floods and of inputs that it is fashionable to talk about? famines. In Gujarat and Rajasthan, in parts of It is not contradiction in terms for the Orissa, Andhra Pradesh and Mysore they still Deputy Prime Minister to be standina up continue to suffer from these. In other areas, and saying when piloting the Banking Laws undoubtedly bumper crops have been harv- Amendment Bill "there is short... I)f aari- ested over a period of two years. Now, one cultural credit and I want the commercial would have thought this would have provided banks to provide agricultural credit", and an opportunity to the Government, over the to say at the same time '" am aoina to last whole year if not over a longer period, siphon off all surplus purchasing power from to really take stock of the agricultural situa- the rural areas for expenditure by lovern- tion and to do something about it. On the ment" 1 Does this make any sense, I ask you? contrary, flood, famine and drought are , suggest, Sir, the agricultural situation, luch beiug utilized or capitalised, certainly to my as it is, is bad enouah, , sugest, where lbere knowledge in Rajasthan, for political pur- is prosperity it ouaht to be allowed to remain poses. And the scattered prosperity of the there. Only one of two thinp can happen to farmin, community here and there is not this prosperity wherever it exists : those who leading, as you would have ellpeeled, to the are wise will plouah it back into the land; abolition of food zones and food rationina those who are not so wise will spend it. but only to attempts to penalise the few Even so, there will arise a broad-based prosperous farmers and the peasants by genuine real demand for.,oo. and lICI'Yicea seckinl to levy taxes and penalties upon their Iud! as II _sary for rCll:t/fttilla tbe ceo- 259 No-Confidence Motion FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 260 [Shri N. DandekerJ The industrial scene is one of continuing nomy of this country and not mere money stagnation. It has been one of continuing generated by government's deficit financing. stagnation for at least two years. There have been political causes contributory for MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: May I cau- this situation, but undoubtedly there have tion the hon. Member that there is a speci- also been a considerable number of economic fic motion before the House? causes. Everybody has been saying that SHRI N. DANDEKER: I am ensuring industrial revival is just around the corner. the government fo r their policies. I myself feU that was early last year, as I said practically in those terms to the share- MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: Two speci- holders of a company at a meeting over fic points have been raised on the basis of which I had the honour to preside. But which the motion has been allowed ...... we have not turned the com". We arC (interruptions) Let me finish. nowhere ncar the comer. We could be turning the corn=r but we have not. SHRI K. K. NA YAR (8ahraich) : When Shri Bhandare was speaking about Bengal I have been taking a survey of the you did not object. number of industrial projects and industrial licence applications pending with the Central SHRI N. DANDEKER: The censure Government from Gujarat, Mysore, Maha- motion is in genoral terms and I am entitled rashtra, Orissa and Madras, to quote a few. to criticise the government for their ineffici- The inordinate delay in dealing with than ency. have been complained against by the Chief Ministers and Finance Ministers and SHRI PILLOO MODY: Why is it that Industries ministers of those states. I have just whenever any sense is talked in this House visited Orissa the other day to make some there is some objection? survey about this situation. I would like to tell YOll, Sir, that from all over the MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : While illus- country that something like 1.500 to 2,000 trating your point you can certainly bring applications for new industrial enterprises, in certain other things, bu t it appears to for diversification of existing enterprises me that you arc concentrating on certain and for expansion of existing enterprises arc economic matters. all pending and bottled up in the Ministry of Industrial Development. SHRI N. DANDEKER : J am concen· trating upon censuring the Government for I have also attempt(d an estimate of the state of the country today for which the amount of capital investment and they are responsible. capital formation that is involved, of the extent of employment opportunities that arc MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER In the involved and of the extent of rigional motion there are three points. Do you say diversification that is involved. The whole that what you are saying is illustrative of lot of this is so great that if we got on with anyone of them ? it we ought to be turning around the comer, from industrial recession into brisk indus- SHRI RANGA (Srikakulam): Let trial revival. But we do not, because sitting him state why the Congress was voted down at that corner is a gentleman of the name in Bengal. It was because of its wrong of Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed. He, in charge policies. of industrial development, either does not know what industrial development means, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: am or does not want industrial development, sUaFsting to the hon. Member that he must or somebody i. dictating from somewhere look to the specific points and not extend not to allow industrial development. I do the gamut of the debate too far. not know what the answer is; but the fact remains that industrial receasion eould be SHRI N. DANDEKER: Now I will got over and industrial revival could be turn from the agricultural scene and the around the comer. And yet we are nowbere qricuituraJ policies to the industrial scene. near it. 261 No-Confoknce MOl/on MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) No-Confidence Mot/on 262 Today, procrastination is the watchword burnt and distroyed both public and of the Government in all its economic private property with impunity while the ministries. I do not know about the other law enforcement asencies as first help- ministries but in the Ministry of Petroleum lessely looked on, gives room for the and Chemicals, in the Ministry of Steel, suspician that the State Government was in the Ministry of Industrial Development, at first half-hearted in its efforts to res- in the Ministry of Commerce,-in all the tore law and order. Regardless of the ministries concerned with industrial and merits of the border dispute between commercial development, and with economic Mysore and Maharashtra, the primery development generally which give licences- duty of Government was to have ensured industrial licences, import licences, any kind the safety of its citizens, even if the of licence, and Sir, as you know, without a Government itself were in sympathy with licence you cannot put one foot forward,- the alleged objective of the asitation. the watchword of this Government has This duty the Government failed to dis- become "delay and indecision". Even if charge. somebody says, "For heaven's sake take some decision, UII)' decision", they will not take a decision; they will refer the thing Meanwhile, the National Executive app- backwards and forwards until the state of eals to all politieal parties and organisa- affairs is still this, that Industrial revival tions to adhere to democratic processes is just around the corner' That is where and constitutional procedures for the it remain so long as industrial development settlement of their grievances, nowever follows the kind of procrastinating policies frustrating such efforts may seem in the that the Ministry of Industrial Development short run. Anti-democratic parties are has been choosing to follow. waiting for precisely such opportunities as was indeed made abundantly clear in Sir, let us take a look now at the Bombay, to crea te chaos and disruption political scene. I do not want to join in in their grand design to overthrow the this match to exchange epithets partywisc. established order ... " I believe that what has happened in Telangana and Bombay are matlers deserving Let there be no doubt about what our feel- of the utmost and downright condemnation. ings are on the subject of the situation as it developed in Bombay. In this connection I would like to read I would like to turn now to some other in order that there may be no doubt what- aspects of political life in the country over soever since Bombay ha, been discussed at the last 20 years, started by the Cou,ress a particular length, some extract from a Party and taken up thereafter by all the Resolution we passed only the other day in other "agitational approach" parties. Politics the National Executive of our Party concer- has infiltrated into edueation, into education- ning Bombay. I quote: al institutions, into questions of langUB" at "The National Executive of the Swatan- the university level and even into the sports. tra Party views with deep concern the The Government of India indicated the other recurrence of violence in public life ... day not merely that it would like the Indian Whether it is inter-State border disputes Olympics Council to dissociate itself with or linguistic loyalties, these parties and the Mexican Games if South Africa were aroups appear to have come to the con- also admitted, but they went further and clusion that violence pays because throuah said that if the Indian Olympics Council, or violence alone can they secure their ob- whatever they are called, nevertheless did jectives. The overts commitment of some not obey, the Government would wilhhold State Governments themselves to such subsidies, makin8 it impossible for them to disputes and the weak and vaeillatinl work. Then, there was the busineu about policies of Governments both at the wrestling in which the Mini.ter of State fill' Centre and in certain States have contri- Education interfered lUId 10 on. In arta anll buted to such attitudes. letters, there are leu and less really aeuuiDe indcpclldcot writen left. They are becom- The receot outbrak of widwpread vio- iq oIIk:iaI lCI'ibc5; they arc bccomiIrt the lcuce in Bombay city whca mobs looted, hired propqaDdjata of Go_t ID tbd' 263 No-Confidence Motion FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 264 [Shrl N. Dhandekerl SHRI N. DANDEKER: Sir, I would cacophony of propaganda for the Congress now like to tum for a moment - this would Party of which the most outstanding exam- be my last point - to the international situa- ple, of course, is the radio and the television. tion. Immediately, in the current situation, I could go on saying a lot about all these what occurs to one's mind is the recent things. Commonwealth Conference, the Common· wealth Conference which the Prime Minister But one thing I would like specifically herself attended. We read, of course, in to mention is the latest example of the in- India wonderful accounts of what the Prime trusion of political parties and, in particular, Minister and the Minister of State, Shri the Congress Party into what I can best Bhagat, did; their wonderful attitudes; the describe as financial corruption at the highest wonderful things that they said and so on; political level. I say this with some know- we got the impression that India was really ledge of facts that there has been a consi· getting down to business in a tough way. derable raising of funds in high mini,'te' But I do not know how many here had a rial authority for the Congress Party during look at what the British press had to say elections., . about the attitude and the performance of our Prime Minister there, This is wath 15.33 hrs. Mr. Robert Pitman, writing in the Daily Express, says about the contribution of our [SHRI R. D. BHANDARE in the chair] Prime Minister to the Conference: SOME HON. MEMBERS : Shame, shame! "No pantomime dame could be quite so SHRI N. DANDEKER: The Congress mulish as Mrs. Gandhi who wants to Party has its President; the Congress Party bar even India to Africa's Indians. Any has its General Secretary; the Congress Party one of them could probably run her has also its Treasurer and so on. They have country fifteen times more efficiently that not only at the all-India level, but they than she herself. The irony is that the have it also at the State level. Mahatma was, in effect, an Asian from Africa. If somebody like Mrs. Gandhi MR. CHAIRMAN: How is it relevant had kept him out of India, history here? would have been changed and she cer· tainly would not be the Prime Minister SHRI N. DANDEKER: It is relevant today." here. SHRI BAL RAJ MADHOK (South The fact remains !l.at at this Common· Delhi): It is very much relevant. wealth Conference the problems of British SHRI N. DANDEKER: I am talking and African citizens of Indian origin, and the about financial corruption at the highest discrimination against them by the White level in political terms. and the Black alike, remain unresolved be· cause our Prime Minister did not have the SHRI PILOO MODY: How does a courage to speak up and fight for them at question from the Chair become relevant? the Commonwealth Conference. So much for the Commonwealth Conference. MR. CHiREMAN : Relevancy is to be decided by the Chair. Mr. Piloo Mody What about our nearer external situtaion should know it. Pakistan, China and South·East Asia? Today what is going on in Pakistan is a kind of SHRI N. DANDEKER: The hillhest turmoil about which we had better take very ministerial oflices in the Central Govern- serious notice, because it is customary for ment have not hesitated, have not been free dictators. in the situation of this kind, to of brow-beatina people into PByina money embark upon war·like adventures. When I or the Conareas Party durina the last elee- think of Pakistan and China toaether and ions. when I think of the undoubted fact that be· tween the two of them there exists a pact, and SHRl RANOA Into their own when I think of the trqic situation, such as hands. I kDow, of our defance preparedness, I lalll!h 265 No-Collfidence Molion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKAl No-Coflfidence MOlion 256 when the Defence Minister says that we can "We do not think it well serve any useful take both of them on without anybody's purpose". Shri Rama Reddy then asked help, without anybody's assistance. whether Government proposed to sit silently without taking any step to pervent effectively In this situation, it is a most remakable any supper-power from coming in to fill the things that our Prime Minister is suggesting, vacuum, and the Prime Minister had this hinting, that we should re-open negotiations gem of a non-answer : with China with a view to coming to a settle- ment. The late Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru "Whatever happens in our neighbour- once said that he would not yield an inch of hood is of deep concern to us. We have to the soil to Chiha. Later, forced by cirums- have our policy to meet any situation tances, he climbed down, and the nation which may arise. We consider that there is accepted that climb-down, when he said; no need for any country to have foreign 'Colombo Plan; nothing more, nothing less'. mil itary bases in other countries." He said that if China was prepared to accept the Colombo Plan in toto, we could do a deal; I do not know that this amwer was ans- but not otherwise. But now the present wering ! I just do not know whether there is Prime Minister is willing, is responsive, to any appreciation in the External Affairs do a deal even on a lower scale than the Ministry or the Defence Ministry or in any Colombo Plan, so that we should be recognis- Ministry of the Government of India as to ing as de jure not merely what is today the de the position in South-East Asia vis-a-vis facto situation but a \\orse situation than the Pakistan, vis-a-I'is China, vis-a-vis the British de facto situation today. withdrawal and undoubtedly, I'is-a-I·I.' the impending American withdrawal. What about the r~st of South-East Asia '1 What did she say when she was asked in the I ask myself: Is this the state of the Rajya Sabha what view she had on the sub- nation today in regard to the economy, in ject of South-East Asia in the light of certain regard to agriculture and industry, in regard known facts, that the British intended pulling to the international situation? I ask my- out from there very soon and that undoutedly self: Is this Government competent any the Americans would be pulling out from longer to carryon the government ? there too. This is the note that I have on the subject: SOME HaN. MEMBERS: No, no. "Replying to a question from Mr. D. Thengari as to whether a joint SHRI N. DANDKER: I ask myself: Defence Scheme was not the best measure Have they got any ideas for curing this state to fill up the power vacuum in the Indian of affairs ? Ocean following the impending British withdrawal and also to prevent other SOME HaN. MEMBERS: No. Powers coming into the region, the Prime Minister said that the power vacunm SHRI N. DANDEKER : I a.k myself: could only be filled up by Strengthening Have they got any plans, any proarammes, the countries of the region"- which was any policies, anythina at all, axccpt to go precisely the question he had asked. on delayilll answers, whether it is to the terri -torial disputes, whether it is to industrial "That strengthening implied ..... to Mr. applications, whether It is to import licences-- Main and the other Members of the Rajya anything at all? The great emblem of this Sabha ... Government is not Salyamev. Joyale, but to on with "procrastination, for ever and ever- .....somethilll short of strelllthenilll by Amen !" military gurantees ...... SHRI THIRUMALA RAO (Kakinada) To the question as to what stood in the The precedilll speaker, Shri Dandeker, has way of tbe Government tWill tbe initiative has already stated that tbis is • routine !'<>r joint defencc 8rTa111emcnti with motion of the Oppaitlon, wbatcver tbe Sinppore UId Malaysia, Sbe said : circumstances and tbe context be. 267 No-Confidence Motion FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 268 [Shri Thirumala Rao] trumpet about their success along with the I have the highest regard for Shri communist party. When my hon. friend Dandeker, but am very much disappointed Mr. Bhandare was mentioning the number of with the timing of his speech and the irrele- votes secured by the Congress in Bengal, my vance of the occasion. He has montioned in voeiforous friend here as shouting him down. his speech what he thinks is the state of the What is the percentage of votes that the nation. He has put on pose if he was the Bengal Congress got in 1967 and in 1969? American President adders sing the whole In Bankura in 1967 it got 45 per cent and 39 nation on the state of the nation coming out per cent in 1969. In Howrah it was 42 per with a programme and policy before a general cent and 41 per cent respectively .. .(l1Iterrup- election. He could well have reserved this /ions.) In Midnapore it was 42 per cent for the budget debate in which he has cham- then and 57 per cent now ... pioned the cause of the upper echelons in regard to reduction of taxes and other pri- SHRI S. M. BANERJEE May I make vileges for the privileged class. a submission ? When I look at the members of his party, SHRI THIRUMALA RAO : I do not I see that most of them have come from know whether Mr. Banerjee belongs to constituencies far away from their homes, Mr. Ramamurti's group or not. But we except my hon. friend, Shri Ranga, who has listened to him with the utmost attention and got his own home constituency. Now they respect. They should not try to hoot me put on an all-India look and pose as kader down. I was referring to a newspaper of all-India importance, because they could report .. (l1Iterrupti"",.) Even in Punjab the not fined constituencies handy in their own percentage of votes secured by the Congress localities. But there are certain adventitious goes to prove what I was submitting. We are circumstances that helped them to bag these not sorry about the loss of power in one costituencies far away from their homes. State. The basic question is whether the Still I have got personal regard for many Congress as an organization with its ideals of them who wou Id be good public men pro- and programmes can survive in this country vided they find some support from other or not. In Bengal they have a majority now; sides of the house. I would like to know there are of course various groups, But how Shri Ramamurti would react to the pro- they have learnt their lessons from the past; posals made by Shri Dandeker in his speech. nobody grudges that majority. They Anyhow, they do not want to vote against were very haughty before. In Kerala they the Government- that is small mercy to us have yet to learn their lessons. I am told as well to the country. that the Gopala Sena consisted of about 40,000 persons, well trained and in uniform As for Shri Ramamurti, this is a .:om- and they were going about the State. Has bined celebration of those who have won a the Congress Government or Mr. Chavan few scats in West Bengal and have lost every- declared the Gopala Sena or the Marxist where else in the country. The SSP is also Communist. Party an illegal group? If he in this category. It has lost so badly in cannot do that, how can he do so with regard Bihar but still talks in terms of forming a to Shiva Sena ? Here. let me make it clear Ministry there. They want to eulogise this that I am not supporting Shiva Sen. or its sort of no-confidence motion. It has become activities. It is a painful fact that this a habit with them all along since they have country has not yet gone beyond the stage of come to this Parliament. They cannot let communal loyalties and caste loyalties in go an opportunity when a bare 50 member politics. Let us take any party-Jana Sangh Stand in support of their motion. We saw or Congress or Communists or the Swatantra. how anxious their faces were till the Speaker Invariably they put up condidates who can counted 55 of their number. Of course, command the majority of the votes of the they are privileged to do this kind of thing largest community in that con- they can have it. But what I want to say stituency. And when the representative is is : let there be some decency about these elected and comes to power, he cannot forget no-confidcnce motions. hi. community. What about the New They have almost become a dull rutine; Ministry in Punjab? A penon who was there is DO purpose exeept to blow their defeated in the elections has been made a 269 No-Confidence MOl/Oil MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) No-Conjide"c, MOlio" 270 minister because he was Akali. The Akalis ulum. The popular favour, or the popular think that they have won that States as a will which favours or disfavours one or the separale Sikh State and irrespective of con- other is hard to predict long in advance. siderations of democratic propriety, they can Therefore, we will take whatever has fallen appoint any person even though he has been to the Congress. The Congress will try to defeated in the general elections .. . (lnlerrup- improve; if it tries, and if it improves, it can lions,) I come from that area and I know again change the situation. where the shoe pinches I was in Bombay on the 15 and 16th of this monlh, I have seen AN HON. MEMBER: Never. people who had suffered a t the hands of the fanatics of Ihe Shiva Sena. Whether it be SHRI THIRUMALA RAO : Nor can Shiva Sena or any other agitation, the the Communists, I can tell him? What I say organisers of the agitation disappear when is this. There is no point in their bringing violence erupts and it is the goondas and up this no-confidence motion against the antisocial elements who take charge of the Central Government. situation. When violence erupted in Chowri Chowra, goondas look charge of the situation With regard to Andhra Pradesh, there were and Gandhiji had to fast. We recall those some mistakes committed; there is no doubt days and those movements. Shiva Sena is a aboul it. We were all parties; when Andhra bad portent and political problems cannot be was form~d we were all parties, when Andhra settled by this sort of pressure tactics. It is was separated from Madras in 1953. In for the Bombay Government to retrieve its November, 1956, when the new Andhra Pra- reputation and see that proper security is desh was formed, there was the agreement bet- guaranteed to the ordinary citizen and his ween the leaders of Telengana and the rest of property. Andhra Pradesh. (InierrUplioll). I tell you, there were some people talking of a separate My friend mentioned the case of Mr. Telengana; that idea was scotched. It was not Krishna Menon and referred to that question encouraged. Andhra Pradesh is one composite Leave alone those old stories; there is no use State, with one culture, one language, one civi- quoting them. Sometimes, there are people lisation. All our ancient books, and all our who have been accepted as undisputed leaders puranas in Telugu owe their origin to every of the whole country. People have got their part of Telengana, Rayalaseema and the rest own ideologies also. When a man is not of Andhra Pradesh. Therefore, those people, wanted, and when he stands again for a the Andhras, who are fed by the food grown second time, and foists himself on the people on the basin of the Krishna, the Godavari in that place, he is rejected. That way, our and the Pennar claim a common heritage. democracy is somewhat sound and has got a There may be political differences; there may sound common sense. By and large, the be slight mistakes committed by those who verdict of the electorate is there. You must are in power, but now they are goiDIl to see how democracy in the villages works. rectify them. There is no question of a You go and see the villages, and see how the separate Telengana, a separate Rayalaseema viUagers vote and how they decide as to or a separate Andhra Pradesh in that sense. who should be voted; they carry the biography It is all one thing: one Andhra Pradesh. of the candidate, the scandals and the good points of the candidates concerned. Democr- Even if Ministers have committed mis- acy has worked to such an extent in our takes, they are liable to be corrected by the country. (Inlerruplion). Therefore, thoullh leaders, by their following tnere and by the the uneducated electorate gives its verdict, people. (Interruption). What I say is. one has to accept it. there is patience enough; there is good will enough, among the Andhras to .ettle thC5C In 1952, in Andhra Pradesh, all of us matters and rectify their mistakes that have were defeated; everyone who had a head on been committed in the past and to see that his neck was defeated by the other parties, the development of Telengana is taken on but within five years, we retrieved the position hand immediately and all the grievances are and the other people who had won earlier removed at once. I need not say anything were scnt back home. Therefore, what bas more about it. There iJ no OCCIIIion for a happened now is just a swing of the pend- no-confidcoce motion DOW. (/"lerrupl/o")' 271 No-Confidence MOlion FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence MOlion 272 SHRI P. RAMAMURTI Who are the or three years before that such a law and diSlP'untied politicians? order problem is going to face the Maharashtra Government. For example, SHRI THIRUMALA RAO : I define a on 8th January, 1968, the Statcsman wrote disaruntled politician this way. If you are under the caption "A bigger arena for removed from your leadership and another Shiv Sena battlccs-Potential threat to law and man is made the leader of your party in this order in bombay" as follows: House, you become a disgruntled politician ! But then, it is not a good word; it is indeed "The impunity with which the a foolish word. There are these people who Shiv Sena brought display of its power got into power to discredit the legitimate to the streets of Bombay last week is as aspirants. They may be disappointed people ominous as it is surprising-ominous (lnterruplion) You are changing the leaders because the Shiv ~na is unlikely to rest on the very face of it, even in Parliament. on its laurels and surprising for the passi- (Interruption) What I say is, onz man is vity of the policy to the Sena's calculated something today; and he is some thing else acts of violence and defiance of law." tomorrow. But that is not the point. There are always some people who will associate That is exactly what the previous speakers themselves with some others, with the so- have pointed out. The state Government called disgruntled leadership. But, on the and the Congress Party directly and indirect- whole, the people are sound; they do lose ly encouraged the Shiv Sena, which resulted their head for a time. But I am sure that in the lost of so many lives. Even the with the guidance of the leaders of the boycot or against Central Ministers was de- country and with the sage advice of my cided many days before this orgy of violence friends like Shri Ramamurti who has got took place. In fact, there were posters on the the good will of Andhras because he likes walls of Bombay reading "Blood for blood. our Andhra food as well as the rasam and Until Bal Thackeray's bandh is there, Bombay sambhar, things will improve. bandh will continue" But the authorities did not take any action." He has eaten much in our jails. We understand each other. I would ask him to On 8th March, 1968, when our esteemed withdraw this irrelevant no-confidence notion friend, Mr. Kandappan expressed concern and not to associate himself with the per- over the welfare of South Indians in this House, Mr. Chavan, the Home Minister, petual movers of no-confidence motions-the declared emphatically: SSPs. .. 1 can stand guarantee personally SHRI G. VISWANATHAN about it. The interests of South Indians (Wandiwash) : Sir the previous speakers have will be protected in all the State. touched upon the Shiv Sena activities. But what happend to this assurance ? Shiv Sena is a Frankenstein monster created more than SO hotels of South Indians wele by the Congress. At the biginning, it was looted Many people were injured and so exploited by the Congress Party to defeat many lives were lost. The Home M inistr y Mr. Krishna Menon in Bombay elections. knew many days before that these things were Later, they used the same movement for going to happen. There were precautions. their civic elections. This encouragement Even the State Government knew that these given by the Congress Party cost the nation things are going to happen, but they did not so much very recently. Nearly 57 lives were take even a single precautionary measure lost. More than Rs. IS crores worth of like imprisoning the goondas. public and private property were looted and destroyed. More than 500 people were in- 16 hr•• jured in four days. All this happned under Sir, the Indian EXPUl'S in its New Delhi tbe very nose of Mr. Naik, the Congress Edition of 23rd May, 1968, wrote that judg- Chief MinIster. ing by the free rein given to Shiv Scna for its many activities Shri Naik's administration This iI not a new or sudden problem. appeared virtually having handed over its It must have been known to the Congress authority to these people to act as if they leaders 10Di back. Newspapers reported two are free to intimidate law-abidina citizens if 273 o Confidellc~ Motioll MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKAl No-Confidellce Motion 274 they happen to be non-Maharashtrians. This the people's verdict should be respected and elearly show teat the State Government run the Congress Party should not enter into by the Congress Government is directly horse-trading and purchasing people. Wher- supporting this movement. That is why we ever there is a possibility of the United Front charge this Government that it has the politi- Ministry being formed the central adminstra- calmotive to exploit Shiv Sena for ils regio- tion should not interfere. The results of the nal feelings for their own political ends. This four State clearly prove that whatever the has cost the nation so much. Unless this people say should be respected and the fascist activity is curbed, unless this is ni ~d Central Government using the Governor as in the bud the united India will not be there. instrument should not interevene and distrub Supposing their is counter-action in other the Statc Governments. If they now want to do States what will happen to this country? such things in other non-Congress-government- There are thousands of Maharashtrians living State also they are going to receive the same peacefully in Tanjaur. There are thousands results as they received in Bengal or in Punjab. of Maharashtrians living outside Maharashtra. There are Maharashtrians in Kerala, Mad- Regarding regional imbalances the pre- hya, Pradesh and other places. If the people in vious speakers have pointed out mainly the those States also take it into their heads hat no situnation in Telengana. I would like to non-Tamil ian or non-Keralite should reside strcss that during the last fiften years of plan- in their States what will happen to the unity ning instead of rcducing regional imbalances of the country? The Home Minister mllst they have increased them. Thcy should have definitely take some stand on this and instruct concentrated their attention on backward the State Government to curb this acti- areas but they Icft them out. Even though vity. When J say this I know for certain the Third Five Year Plan points out that that law and order problem is the prerogative regional imbalances should be reduced many of the State Government. But if there is backward are still backward. counter-action against the Shiv Sena move- The Fivc Year Plans have proved t~.1 ment throughout the conutry it will definitely the rich can be made richer and the poor become an all-Indian problem and it will poorer. Since that is the result of the three pose a threat to the unity and integrity of plans, it is hoped that at least in the Fourth this country. I would therefore like the Plan the intdustrially and economically back- Home Mitister to take immediate action ward areas will be given priorities. Unltss to curb such aggressive movements, such the regional imbalances are removed, there parochial movements. will always be fissiparous tendencies and The recent elections held in the four violence. States clearly prove that the ideology of the I would again like to emphasize that Congress Party and the past actions of the people have come to belive that unless they Central Government are not backed by the agitate, unless they ransack and loot, they people. The people have thrown out the cannot get justice. This idea should be Congress Party in three states. Even in erased from the minds of the people. If a Uttar Pradesh where they say that they have just demand is made, it should be considered maintanied the status quo as in 1967. If there on merits and not on the basis of the popu- had been an alliance between Jan Sanha and lation behind that demand. Bharatiya Kranti Oal even there the Congress Party would have been thrown out. What I do not to come back to the Telellana happened in West Bengal? In Bengal and issue. The peodle inside the State and, in Bihar these people asserted that they were the words of the Chief Minister disllruntled going to give a stable government. Now it politicians may sit toaether and solve the has been proved that there is not going to be problem. It need not be taken at the national a stable government and if there can be a level. With these words, 1 conclude my State Government it can only be formed by speech. the United front and not the Congress. Now they are trying to woo the independents in SHRI SHANTILAL SHAH (Bombay- U. P_ They may do so even in Bihar. In North-west) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, the limita- Bibar tbe situation is very confusin,. No tions of this debate have to be undentood. party has sot a sinaJe m$rity and they say We will soon have a debate on the Motion that President's Rule may continue. But of Thank, to the President, whicb coven the 275 No-Collfidellce Motion EEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Collfidence Motio" 276 [Shri G. Viswanathan] spaper do it, because it, because it is a a;eneral policy of the government. We are fascist organisation. If I dislike communist a;oing to have a debate on thr budget during dictatorship I also dislike fascist dictator- which almost every issue relating to the ship. country can he discussed, What, then, is the relevance of this motion? How is it Why are the Communists so keen in possible to avoid in this discussion subjects fighting the Shiv Sena? For the last 10 or which will be relevant and important there, 15 years, the Communist Party in Mahar- but here it seems to be repatition of the same ashtra, may be the right Communists or left thing which could well have been spared. Communists, have prospered on the local, parochial feelings, by trading on the narrow However, as the representative of the parochialism of some Maharashtrians. Swatantra Party has said, in the last few sessions it has been the The Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti and normal ritual for some parties that the Sampoorna Maharashtra Samiti, made there should be a no-confidence motion. For political capital out of that for their own this no-confidence motion thanks are due to party, to arOuse political passions on narrow the fiftieth man; but for him they could not grounds and take political benefit out of it. have brought forward this motion. It so happens that the Shiv Sena has stolen AN HON. MEMBER: There were 53 their thunder. Every political ground which in support of it. the Communists put forward has been taken SHRI SHANTILAL SHAH : All eight, over by the Shiv Sena and the result has then thank the last four members. I do not been that as far as the city of Bombay is mind if you say there were a few more. concerned, the Communist Party, both the right and wrong ones, finds that in the city I am not speaking on this motion on of Bombay they arc nowhere. That is the general subjects. I wish to confine myself reason why members of the Communiss only to Shiv Sena and the city of Bombay, Party go to Bombay, make what they call In order to understand what the position of investigations and suhmit a report which is Shiv Sena is, that subject has to be divided all one-sided. It is not because the Shiv into two or three categories. One is the Sena is right or wrong but because they are attitude of the Shiv Sena aud its general losing their hold. This is a quarrel between repercussions; what it stands for and what it the Shiv Sena, on the one hand, and the does not stand for. The second is the Communist Party, on the other. The Com- attitude of the Congress Party to Shiv Sena, munist Party's main grievance is that the which I consider is relevant in this discussion Shiv Sena is taking away their votes and The third is the attitude of the Government their political influence. of Maharashtra to what the Shiv Sena did. This is a subject matter for debate in the Some time ago the Shiv Sena had no State Assembly, or in the municipal corpora- influence and even today it has none in tion of Bombay, but not in this House. Maharashtra. In fect, outside the city of Now I will state my views about Shiv Bombay and the town of Thana, the Shiv Sena. Firstly, I have no doubt that it is a Sena has no influence in Maharashtra at all. fascist organisation. Shri Bal Thakarey, I! could not make any dent in the municipal who is its head, has proclaimed very clearly elections in Poona and could not have any in his writings that he believes in what was effect on the municipal elections in Nasik done by Hitler. Therfore, there is little to which are the two big towns nearst to the choose between those who believe in non- city of Bombay. In the rest of Maharashtra democratic methods, be it Communists or be the Shiv Sena has nothing to do; it does not it fascists. Some time ago when it was put exist. Therefore, to say that the Shiv Sena to me whether a news-paper with which I is something which the Congress Party is have some influence would support Shiv supporting is wrong, If that were so, in the Sene, I gave the reply that while it is true that whole of Maharashtra the Shiv Sena would the Shiv Sena and the Communists have a be there, quarrel between themselves and that it is opposed to the Communists, I would not As I said earlier. the Shiv Sena i. a support the Shiv Sene, nor would my new- fascist orpnisation. Up till now they lived 277 No-Confidence Molion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKAl No-Confidel/ce Molion 278 on one slogan: Employment to Maharashtrians- cannot organise. The Shiv Sena is an a legitimate demand. After some time they organisation only at the top; at the bottom found that they had exhausted their political they have no organisation and have no thunder and were in need of some new following except that the goondas take up slogan. Therefore thay said, "Now let us any agitation which they launch. Agitations take up the border issue." The border by the Communists also were taken up by issue was the one on which the Communist the goondas. Party was catching its votes in the city of Therefore the Shiv Sena need not be Bombay. Now the Communist Party finds given undue credit for all that has happened. that their vote-catching device has been The discredit does belong to them because usurped by somebody else and that is why they started the trouble which they could not they are angry. control. But I would not go into all this. I only wanted to say two things. Firstly, Why do they bring in Shri Krishna it is wrong to say that the Congress in Menon's name? Shri Krishna Menon was Bombay or in Maharashtra has supported or not defeated because of the Shiv Sena. The is supporting the Shiv Sena. Secondly, it is area from which Shri Krishna Menon was wrong to say that the Congress supported the elected in the past is the past is an area Shiv Sena with a view to defeating Shri which I know best. It is a part of lhe Krishna Menon. He had deserved it. It is Bombay Suburban District Congress Com- correct to say that the Shiv Sena is a fascist mittee. Shri Krishna Menon would have body and 1 hope, the Maharashtra Govern- bem defeated, Shiv Sen a or no Shiv Sena. ment will take immediate eteps and stronger steps than they have taken on the present SHRI VASUDEVAN NAIR (Pecrmadc): occasion to curb their activities. You would have managed it even other- There are many things to be said about wise. what has happened in the last few days. It is true that the Maharashtra Government was SHRI SHANTILAL SHAH: We need caught napping, that it did not take such not have managed it. He deserved it. From Preventive measures as it ought to and could t he day he was elected from the Bombay have taken. But that is not a matter of debate suburban district till he stood again and was in this House-I will meet the Maharashtra defeated, in the first five-year period and in Government; I will meet the poiltical leaders second five-year period did he attend a meet- when the occasion comes-and as far as this ing of the District Congress Committee, meet House is concerned, the Congress Party his partymen, discuss their grievances and neither in Maharashtra nor B. P, C. C., has hear them ? After getting elected Shri anything to do with Shiv Sena. The failure Krishna Menon sat on a very high pedestal, of the Government is due to causes which untouched by the local electorate. That is have nothing to do with the Central Govern- why he was defeated. It was not the Shiv ment. Therefore I would only say that in Sena that defeated him. The Shiv Sena, it this motion of No-Confidence Shiv Sena is true, held some meetings in that part in has been made an excuse by the Communists which Shri Krishna Menon was in order that they can say something about standing. But they also addressed meetings it, I want to make it clear that what Shiv in the part from which I was standing. In Sena has done can not be defended. But one both these meetings, on his side as well as Party which believes in dictatorship cannot on my side, the burden of the Shiv Sena's throw mud at another Party which silO song was, "Do not walk into the Communist believes in dictatorship. In any political let- trap". If that Communist trap was Shri up, there will be persons who will dilllCllt Krishna Menon, it is unfortunate for him. from the Government. But the dissenton are The Shiv Sena had not affected the elections. of two types. There arc some who within the Therefore, as far as the Shiv Sena is framework of the Constitution want to have concerned, I do not think any right-thinking their grievances remedied. As to those, one man in the city of Bombay or in Maharashtra must meet, arlUe and challenae. But to thOle hal any 80ft feelina for the Shiv Sena. That who say they dissent because they went to is a body of fascists which tries to impres by destroy democracy, be they Shiv Se.Da or no tbrcalS and incendiarism. They have not Shiv Scna, they should be rouaht by everybody lOt the capacity which Hitler had. They who believes in democraI:y. 279 No-Col/fidel/ce Moriol/ FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidel/ce Mor iOI/ 280 [Shri Shantilal Shah] in our political life is indicated. Even This motion has been sponsored by parties the conservative pollsters like those who who do not believe in democracy, that is, by specialised till the other day in advertising Communists and S. S. P. and, therefore the their statistical knowledge and were giving all discussion here is not about Shiv Sena but the kinds of forecasts about what would happen discussion here is democracy or anti-democracy. during the General Elections, have described With these words, I have no hesitation in it as a political revolution. What has saying that the House should throw out this happened in the four States of northern India motion so that it will be a proper reply to is a matter which has brought about a all the anti-democratic forces. qualitative change in the political atmosphere of the country. And, in spite of Mr. Dandeker SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE (Calcutta North if the Opposition in this House does not East) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to accord perform its duty of reflecting that change in my support to the No-Confidence Motion the country, it would not be doing its duty. and I do so without hesitation, without a Therefore, ritual or no ritual ... you mayor hint of an apology, in regard to this Motion may not like rituals; some of us do not being immedjately not quite called for. like the ritual which we had yesterday and the mumbo-jumbo which goes along with it ; we I have heard friends from the Congress do not like but we do not make a grievance Benches and also not unexpectedly Mr. about it ; we do not shout too much about Dandeker on this side referring to this Motion it ... here was a political obligation which the of No-Confidence being something like a Opposition had, and that is the obligation ritual performance which we are repeating to which we are trying to perform. no advantage whatever. Rituals, anyhow, are a feature of parliamentary life. Only yesterday, As a result of the General Elections in we had the President's Address accompanied west Bengal, Bihar U. P. and Punjab, as I even by a certain pageantry which many just said, the Congress has got the order of times in this House has been described as the boot. Only in U, P., the drowning man being out of keeping with the Republican is trying to clutch at a straw. In west Bengal atmosphere of our country. But we do not there has happened an effulgent victory of dismiss normally the President's Address and the people. In Punjab also the Congress the ceremonial ritual connected with it as a has been humiliated. In Bihar, which has Fatuous ritual. In a parliamentary set-up, it always been the pocket-borough of the is not a matter of ritual that the Opposition Congress organisation, the writ of the Con- has the duty and the obligation of bringing gress does not run and will never run again. forward a motion of No-Confidence. From That is the hand-writing on the wall, and if day-to-day, we call for Divisions. They are, Government does not choose to see it, well, generally, fore-doomed to defeat. But we call the country sees it and that is why it is for for them nevertheless. What has happened us to point out what has happened recently is such that we owe it to the country recently. and to Parliament to discuss the basic Significance of certain events. 16-23 brs. Certain events like the miniature General lMR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ill lire clrair] Elections which have taken place, which have shown the creative possibilities of our In 1967 we had the Ceneral Elections people, and certain other events like the Shiv and then panic overtook our friends on the Sena excrescence which have shown how this Treasury Benches. As I said, they did not Government is tarred with the same brush like to see the hand-writing on the wall and which the Shiv Sena wants to paint Bombay what they began doing was to start a game with. It is, therefore, very important. At a of ousting the non-Congress popular govern- time when in a region inhabited by some two ments, not by a political struggle which we hundred million of our people, eighty million welcome, not by ideological controversy people have voted and given the Congress which we can take to the people, but by bribery Party the order of the boot, it is surely by deliberately organized defections and the important. Something has happened which grossest employment of the Centre's power is qualitatively important. A new change in their partisan iutcrests and OD the dictates 281 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29, 1890 (!'AKA) No-Confidence Motion 282 of the monopolists, whose servants they 'Operation Topple', to topple those Govern· happen to be, in the administration. That is ments which had been fOTmed. And the what happened in 1967. And let us not forget people have given this slap in the face, the for a moment, in spite of my friend, Shri kind of answer which the Government so Shantilal Shah, trying to suggest that this is richly deserves. not the forum ... he suggested that the Shiv be discussed in the Sena matter should We have found bigwigs in the Congress Bombay Assembly or the Bombay Corpo- speculating, making all kinds of pronounce- ration; that is the kind of perspective which ments. We have discovered the Congress the leading Congress members chosen for President, Shri Nijalingappa, unable to clear their perspicacity for this debate happen himself of accusations publicly made by a to have ... that the mid-term elections, fellow-Congress stalwart, the ChaiTman of centred round very important issues which the Administrative Reforms Commission directly involved the Central Govornment. and the Deputy LeadeT of the CongTess The Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime PaTty in this House-unable to clear himself Minister, the Home Minister and the whole of charges publicly made by a fellow- lot of them were involved, and everywhere Congress stalwart-who struts about the the verdict has gone against. This is a stage and says it is a mystery which he matter of such importance that we have got cannot unravel. A veritable horde of Central to take notice, and that is the relevance of Ministers journeyed to Bengal and elsewheT<. the no-confidence motion. Shri Shantilal The Prime Minister says in her innocence Shah may not accept, but it is that kind that she is mystified because she saw of relevance which is important to us. enormous crowds coming to her meetings and she had thought that the result would What has happened in West Bengal? be different. What blessed innocence she The Congress is routed. The United Front has! She does not seem to know that has 214 seats out of 280, the Congress a people like a show, a circus, a sensation. beggarly 55. Nevel' in the palmiest days After all, she is the daughter of Jawaharlal of Congress leadership of the cOllntry did Nehru, and a woman Prime Minister to the Legislative Assembly of that State have boot. After all, she knows that wherever this picture. In Bihar, they made a miser- in a Zoo there is a Rewa white tiger, people able show. In UP, they have no majority, crowd round it to have a look. despite the multiple contests among non- Congress parties. In Punjab, they have She could not politically estimate-and lost. They have fallen, like Lucifer, never her colleagues there could not lend her a to rise again. hand in estimating-what was going to happen. And so they are driven, like Shri When important and crucial issues arc Bhandare and also Shri Thirumala Rao over involved in elections, paTliamentary propriety there, to producing figures of how many requires that the Government which has votes they got. Most amazing: Teceived the people's censure should Tesign. In the UK, theTe arc many instances wheTe, Today in The Time.. of [ndia-I am even on the results of one bye-election, the sorry I have not got it with me-there is a Governmen t has Tesigned. These fTiends cartoon by Laxman, one of the country', of ours in this Parliament are never tired top cartoonists, which has the caption: of citing British precedent. But they do it only when it suits their book. I can say "Here is the analysis; though we arc if something like this happened in Britain routed again, there is a clear improve- which is supposed to be the paragon of ment in our position; we have won six parliamentary excellence, the only thing to more votes than we did in the general do in parliamentary propriety would have ejections ...... been for the Government to get out. They are quoting flaum, They are too The electorate has given its verdict clever by half they do not know that they aaainst the policies of tbe Central Govern- are routed. It does not lie in the mouth ment, policies which have been described as of the Conaress Party-Sbri Shantilal Shah 283 o Collfid~lIce MOl/Oil FEJ'lRUARY 18, 1969 No-Collfidellce MOlioll 284 [Shri H. N. Mukerjeel Information Bureau of the Ministry of as a veteran Ghandist should remember it- Information and Broadcasting; a communal it docs not lie in the mouth of the Congress situation was developing and it was being Party, which has been ruling this country fostered in particular ways. Two of our since 19S2 on the basis of a minority vote colleagues Shri Badrudduja and Shri in the country, to try and point out today Jyotirmoy Basu went to "ork for peace and that they got six more votes this time than they were man-handled by the police who in the general elections. were trying to put the situation in a very different context. I am not going to refer Let them satify themselves. They tried to it in more detail because, as I said, I trickery in 1967 and afterwards. Trickery am going to raise this matlet in the National did not work. The members of the Cabinet Gandhi Centenory Committee. This has with their sanctimonious pomposi ty. who taken place and it is the sort of person paraded their virtue and specialised in like Dharam Vira stili there ruling the roost political trickery have been shown liP by or claiming to preside over the destinies of our people. That is the voice of Ollr a State which has given him the order of people in the elections which have taken the boot already-that is how this Govern- place. ment behaves and that is why we want this Government to go. I say so because there is no doubt about not only the clumsiness but the political The camouflage of a minority puppet criminality with which they moved in the Government in West Bengal which was the case of West Bengal, the State from which only political .tragem left to them just did I come. What was wrong for the United not work. The Central leadership adver- Front in West Bengal in November 1967 tised political scabs as the paragons of was right for the Bansilal. Congress Party democratic virtue and the Home Ministcr- in Haryana in December 1968. I am sorry he has left; he is very patient They got their man, Shri Dharam Vira, listener-even spoke of Prafulia Chandra to act. I do not \' ish to say anything Ghosh along with Rabindranath Tagore about him. We had a motion in this and Subhas Chandra Bose as great sons of House last year asking for his dismissal Bengal. He could not trick Bengal by this and now the demand is: sack him straight- blasphemy; the P. C. G hoshes and way; he should not be there. I do not Humayun Kabirs had been kicked by their want to talk much about him because he own people into the dustbin of contemporary as their man and it was not his fault. history. That has taken place and if this He happens to be a Government servant Government has any sense or any idea of of long distinction. They chose him and the feelings of the people, they should they got him to act and the performance know that they have provoked a mass ugly as it was, has recoiled on them and revu Ision in large parts of the country and Shri Dharam Vira's performance has written the struggle took place in West Bengal that the epitaph of the Congress Party in West no repression could daunt. That is why Bengal. That is what has happoned and if the mid-term elections were wrenched from they do not know it, God help them. The the unwilling hands of the people here. electorate has given Shri Dharam Vira a During those months and years after 1967 slap in the face. The demand is that he they did a stupendous job in manufacturing must go and that Raj Bhawan must not be and doling out horrendous news about the centre of more mischief. West Bengal suff In regard t6 Shiv Sena, he has been re- many of our people for whom we still ha·. e mained a stolid statesman; mums the word; some affection, and we are most aggrieved he does not open his mouth and not a word when even the shade of that which was once to condemn their ugly activities. But this great has passed away. The Congress is is the Government which claims national riven by Telengana and in Maharashtra also leadership ; it is a Government which faces this is the picture that we see. Parliament after these elcctiom in North India and has the gumption to tell liS throu- In Bombay, what has happened? It is gh their representatives that this no-conti- so terrible. It is so terrible that something dence motion is uncalled for; that it is a has to be done, and the fact of the matter repetitive performance of a ritual ; it is which we are di,ell.sing today is that thi. mumbo-jumbo. They say this not in elegant Government is to be held respon [Shrs H. N. Mukerjee] shabbily and they naturally know what is the been special targets of attacks-what happens real character of the Congress administra- in Bombay is the concern of the Central tion. Government and the failure of the Govern- ment there is surely justification for a no- Sir, the Government has lately been confidence motion. reshffied like a pack of cards. I do wish the ministers would conceive of But the Prime Minister has been very themselves as something better than a pack busy, busy house-hunting in Delhi, busy of cards. I do wish they could muster examining the claims to consideration of sufficient manliness. If they could face up such "family friends" as Shri B.M. Birla, to the verdict of the people in the mid-term whom I do not know from Adam except poll, they should have on their own grace· that I see his name in the papers from time fully made some gestures. But they do not to time. He made a statement, after his do it. On the contrary, they try to perpe- visit to Raj Bhavan in January, when she tuate the kind of conduct which has made was round about that place that he wanted them so absolutely unacceptable to our peo- particularly to meet her, because she was a ple. They want to go ahead in the same family friend of the Birlas. I am not incli- way. That is why the only parliamentary ned to disbelieve it, hecause I find that there step open to us is to express the desire of was a study made in the Department of the people that they should go. As Mr. Company AfTairs·-; poor Mr. Fakruddin Ramamurti said, if they have moral courage, Ahmad is not there he was Mr. Dandeker's if, following the precedents which are com- target-and that study seems to have brou- mon property in Great Britain, after the ght out that three big usin~ss houses- kind of elections which have taken place, Tatas, Birlas and Mafatlal Group-in a brief they have taken the cue, they would have period of three years, got a very large gone to the country. If they go the country, amount of money from the country's resour- as I said, the hand-writing is on the wall ces in order to have their own business before them. The write of the Congress expansion. Very probably, it is on account will not run again. The people have given of family frienn,hips, on account of some them the order of the boot and sooner rat her responsibility arising out of obligations of a than later, they will have to obey it. different character than political that Govern- ment have shown their refusal to investigate SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH (Nan- the charges against the Birla group, which dyal) : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, the learned have been brought up by their own memb:r professor with all his rhetoric and command in the Rajya Sabha. Mr. Chandrashekar, over the English language tried his best to and even after giving an assurance, which present a very weak case and as ~d this they are very prolific with from time to time House to accept the no-confidence motion. to make a gesture. they have not started In this connection I would like to congratu· making an investigation. Today there was late the other political parties for having an answer to Unstarred Question 66, where displayed statesmanship and wisdom in not it was said that no investigation is being associating with this no-confidence motion. made. Leaving alone the Congress Party even the opposition parties who constitute 240 Mem- We find that this Government, which bers have virtually voted no - confidence last session was in the pillory on account of against this no-confidence motion. I would the attitude it had shown in regard to Cent- like to read out a remark on this no..:onfi- ral Government employees, has got to be denee motion that has appeared in today's now accused again. The reason is, even now more than 9000 employees who, according to paper: the assurances given, should have been rein- stated, have not been reinstated and worse "Some Opposition parties have their work than that, from the point of view of princi- cut out for them. No sooner does the ple, a new BUI has been announced which session of the Lok Sabha open than they would ban strikes permanently and disarm set busy tryinl to be in the limelllht. the workinl class. You cannot take away And the first thin I they think of as if the rillhts of the people like that the Central by rote is a no-confidence motion. They Government employees have been treated so know that nothlDl will come of it. They 289 o Co"fi "t ~ Motion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) o Confi "t ~ Motion 290 also know that having little new to say Failure to promote balanced development they will have to ~ eat what they have of diffe~nt parts of the country and probably said a score of times before. different parts of individual States." But then it gives them the opportunity to get rid of the bile which has accumu- Dealing with the first point I would tell lated in their system during the weeks Hon. Members to go by the res,llts of these the Lok Sabha has been in recess. By elections. What has happened in these elec- getting rid of it in the House they can at rions ? I can point out to them that it is the least make sure that some of it finds its Communist Party, both Left and Rilht, and way on to the front pages of newspapers. the SSP who have been thrown out into the This is no small comfort to parties dust bins of history. What is their perfor- whose only hope of making their presen- mance in Bihar, in Uttar Pradesh and in ce felt lies in their being in the news. Punjab. The topmost leader of their Polit- The only way they can be in the news buro has been kicked out by the electorate is to make as much noise in Parliament in Punjab and thrown into the dust bin. This as they can. They may have only a is the performance of the Communist Party few seats in the two Houses. But if and the Socialist Party and they have got they can only find some pretext to snipe the cheek to challenge the performance made at the party in power every day they can by the Congress Party. grab more than their share of the space in newspap::fs." In this election a disquieting phenomenon has come out which has to be taken note of It has been very succinctly put. and that is the emergence of regional parties. This is a factor which has to be borne in mind by every political party which believes SOME HON. MEMBERS: What is that paper? in parliamentary democracy, whether it is in UP, Punjab, Bihar or even in West Bengal. Of course. in West Bengal I can understand SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH This the election results 1I0inil in favour of the is Timn a/India. United Front. It is a reflection of the impact of the Peking-Pindi axis on the Wcst AN HON. MEMBER: How much ex- Bengal people. tra newsprint quota have they been given after the strike? SHRI UMANATH: Sianderini our own people ... (interruptimlof) SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: This is the sum and substance of the purpose be- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Is he not hind this no-confidence motion. If the same free to draw his own conclusions? This sagacity that has been displayed by the other interruption i. not fair .. .(interruptions) political parties is shown at the national level also I think the day is not far off when SHRI UMANATH: Just because the these anti-democratic forces that are raising Congress is trounced in that State, he hIS no their heads in this country are shown their right to slander the people. rightful place. The no-confidence motion, which is the 'T\Ost irrelevant as many hon. SHRI P. YENKATASUBBAIAH: Sir, Memben have already pointed out, says: they do not have the patience to Iilten to me. I have the llreatest respect for people; "The rebuff by the electorate of the in fact, more rcspect than what you have Central Government's policies of toppl- got. You do not believe in parliamentary inl the elected governments and revers- democracy. I quite understand the Muslim ina tbe popular verdicts in West Bengal, Lcquc lending their tUpport to the JIOoCOII- Bihar and the Punjab. fldence motion, because they arc partncn in the United Front in Kerala. At one time The encol11'qletnellt of aareuive reaioaaI tbis is the very party which cutipted us IDOvemeDtI luch IS Shiv Seoa, Lacblt when '"' altc:rcd inlo coalilion wilh the Sen. etc. MLlllim Leepc iD Kcrala. Here i•• party 29) No-Confidence Motion FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 292 which has done much worse than what we of Shiv Sena have been condemned not only are accused of doing. by the opposition parties which have taken part in the debate but also by Congress SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU: They are members. It is the most unhappy situation on CIA pay rolls. They get money from PL and none of us support the activities of Shiv 480 funds. Sena. But what about the para military and fascist organisations that have been nurtured SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: We and brought up by Communist (Marxists) in are Indians and not the agents of any foreign this country? ... (Interruption) country. We believe in parliamentary demo- cracy. SHRI P. RAMAMURTI: On a point of order, Sir. I have been hearing this story Now take the voting results. The total going round. I do not want a party to be percentage of votes polled in favour of the slandered unless they are prepared t 0 face Congress in 1967 was 37.46. This year it the facts. Let them show that the Communist is 39.28. Leave Punjab alone, where beca- Party of India (Marxist) in this cou ntry has use of certain combinations and other factors reared a para-military organisation. Let there Congress votes were pitted against Congress be a parliamentary inquiry. If it is disproved votes. There were also certain organisational let him resign his seat. There is no such lapses and deficiencies in our organisation, thing. These kinds of deliberate lies 1 cannot as in other parties. But what is the perfor- tolerate. Prove it. But lies against other mance of Jan Sangh? Their seats have been parties would not be tolerated. reduced from 9 to 8 !n Punjab. Of course, that is not the point under discussion. This SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU: It should government has been charged that the popu- he expunged. lar verdict is against it. I emphatically deny that statement because the facts are other- SHRI P. RAMAMURTI: It is a wise. slander against a party which cannot be to- lerated. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU That statement makes us laugh. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER There is no point of order. SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: In Bihar Congress has emerged as the single SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU: Do you largest party. SSP, which was the second allow this to remain on record? largest party in 1967, it is nowhere near the Congress now in this election. Its perfor- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: In a debate mance has been very dismal and the people many arguments are advanced from this side have shown that party its rightful place. In and from that side. Many statements are U. P. our position has improved from 199 seats made. I have given Shri Ramamurti an to 208. Can our friends deny all this? opportun ity. Then, what is the relevance or sense of SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : I have never bringing this sort of motion before Parlia- said that the Congress Party has reared the ment? I would appeal to all the learned Shiv Sena. Such kind of an allegation I have members of CPI (Right) not to associate never made. I am a responsible Member and themselves with this frivolous and flimsy no- when I make allegations I make them with confidence motion. Shri Hiren Mukerjee, a sense of responsibility. with all his political background he is also one of our freedom-fighters. I am sure he SHRI P. VENKATATUBBAIAH By is the most sorrowful man these days ; per- implication it was there. haps, at the dictates of his party he has to perform the most unpleasant duty which he SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : Here is a otherwise does not want to do. statement which says that the Communist Party of India (Marxist), which is today a Comin, to the other points that have part of this Parliament, or some memben been raised by hon. Members, the activities of it are rearing. para-military orpnisation 293 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) No-Confidence Motion 294 in this country. Either the hon. Member opportunity to do so. As I said, both withdraws that statement or he proves it. statements are on record. That is all the question. I am prepared to SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: It is face a parliamentary inquiry. no allegation ...... (Interruption) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Speaking SHRI THIRUMALA RAO: I want to on a point of order you have made a cate- draw your attention to the fact that Shri gorical statement contradicting what he has Ramamurti made a statement that Shri said. Vengal Rao and Shri Channa Reddy were involved in the Telangana affair. Can he SHRI P. RAMAMURTI : It should not prove it or does he withdraw that 7 be allowed. Such an allegation should not be allowed to be made. SHRI P. RAMAMURTI: Let him read the transcript of my speech. I only asked, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You will "Is it Channa Reddy or Vengal Rao 7" have to follow the procedure. It is unparlia- Whose that person 7 mentary that I should expunge it? There are some rules for expunction. It is not MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You had unparliamentary. Your contention is that it cast some doubt about it. Anyway, let us is an unfounded allegation. Your statement stop it here. goes on record, violently refuting what he SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : Shiv has said, and there it stands. Sena, Lachit Sena, Gopal Sena ... fnt~rru tlon 110ft ~'fo ~o 'ilmt: ~tn' 'le, ~ ' ~, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have given fi m'1'?r ~ ~r 'if ~ff ~ f'f>;;fer ~Il''r an opportunity to Shri Ramamurti. What- '1'~ cft f!'Il'T'lf,°'1t 'f;T 'f '~"f f'f>!H ~ ever Shri Venkatasubbaiah said has been f;I'\"r ~ ~ 'l 1l'~ ~t :fT'f f<'f1l'T ~ f'f> challenged by him. Now let Shri Venkata- subbaiah continue. ~r f!'lfmr '1'Rh 'I; ff~~ ~ ~ 'q7fflT ~ ('IT fq;<: ~'1 n ~ ~ f'f>'1r '1Tif ·n Now that matter stands closed. t:J;'1.rn'f ~ it'f>H J;fh If''fi'f ~ lf I .17 hours. ~ ~'1 n ~ ?r J;fT'1' 1 1 '1'1'~ 'f>'f.r ~i ('fT SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: I rise on a if'l f~ !fT;;fWc MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER There is a MR. S. M. BANERJEE: While speaJcina Rule here in regard to those who are not speaking on the No-Confidence Motion, my present in the House to defend themselves, learned friend, Mr. Venkatasubbaiah, has if you make any reference to their names mentioned a particular political party of in such a manner that would cast some which Mr. Ramamurti and others are aspersion. He has made a certain statement members. It is a recognised Party. It has and what Mr. P. Ramamurti has said has won elections in West Bengal and defeated also gone on record. Both the statements the Congress to the hilt. He has mentioned stand. Now, he may continue his speech. that they are maintaining a para-military organisation. Sir, I may remind you that SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU : I want a there were similar charges made by a clear ruling on that. Member of this House against a particular Minister, Mr. Humayun Kabir, Sardar MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have given Hukam Singh was the Speaker then. The my ruling. matter was referred by the Speaker to a Committee. It was not a personal case SHRI UMANATH : You are making a but a particular charge was made that Mr. package deal, I think. Humayun Kabir was associating himself with an organisation which was communal MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Let him and so on. An inquiry was made. Here, continue. the demand of Mr. Ramamurti is simple. If the charges made are found incorrect ...... SHRI JYOTIRMOY BASU; No, Sir. You will have to give a clear ruling on my MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: That is all. point of order. He has violated the pro- I have shown enough patience. vision of Rule 352, sub-section (vii). What Mr. Ramamurti said or so-and-so said is SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Allow me to not the point. I want that that should be finish. expunged. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have tole- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Regarding rated enough. I will have to say, nothing expunctions, there is a separate provision. will go on record. Unless it is unparliamentary or undignified, nor keeping with the decorum of the House. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Kindly allow I cannot expunge a remark. The only thing me to finish. is, I have allowed Mr. Ramamurti to have his say and it has gone on record. That is MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He has made enouah. So, your point of order is over- a point. ruled. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: What is the SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: rise on a point? Kindly allow me to finish. point of order. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If there is SHRI SHEO NARAIN: On a point of anything in that statement, I will examine it. order, Sir. Off-hand, r cannot give a ruling on that. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Under what --n ~o tt~o .mn : ~ ~ ~~, rule 7 Both of you, show me the Rule. ~" ~1'I1't "nf.,-iflf ar, 1ft i\" ~ fit; f~im't ~ ~m 'ff~ I ~ SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Sir, the aT ;r(l' business before the House is the No-Confi- WI": <[Tllrt ~ ~ aT >;ffq" IflfT ~ dence Motion ...... ~~~t~ma ~1 MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I have SHRI SHEO NARAIN: I have also over-ruled it. risen on a point of order. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I will alve .n ~o qqo -'"11: ~~, (Im't you ID opportunity. ~cn~~· .. 297 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) No-Confidence Motion 298 MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Baner- At the same time I would make a request jee may please resume his seat. to all the political parties, including my PSP friends, not to associate themselves with such SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Only one word. of those activities which run counter to Our Suppose, in this House, I say that you are national integration and national interest ... maintaining a Birla-Sena, will you accept it ? Will you not immediately say, 'We are not SHRI SURENDRANATH DWIYEDY maintaining any Birla-Sena' '! I fully endorse this view. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER On this SHRI P. YENKATASUBBAIAH question. a lot of tolerance is required. You thank him for having accepted my view. must also show some tolerance. I was speaking about the emergence of '11 f~~"1 : '3"'1"rl"!1"1ff I1~ C ~, UI1- regional parties. As some of our friends have ~"if ;;r1 <'I:\n ~ '3"{:Y't 'lr.r{ if; 'ifflfo been righly pointing out, this is a disturbing phenomenon in our national politics. Parties fl1f;m:, [Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah] these mailers amicably instead of resorting belong. Andhra Pradesh had been formed to violence. Speaking about the incidents in on a principal that was agreed upon in pre- Andhra. I feel that there has been some independence days. It was formed on the distortions here and there. Not only the sacrifice of self-immolation of a great soul. Congress Party but all the other political It was his sacrifice that brought about the leaders were associated with the gentleman's linguistic re-distribution of the country. agreement that had been arrived at. I hope that this agreement will be implemented in I also feel sorry that even after 12 or 13 letter and spirit and that not only the years of the reorganisation of States, such Con res~ Party but other political parties distortions exits here and there. They are also will make it possible in a cool and calm more on the level of economic inequalities atmosphere to implement decisions arrived rather than on any other basis. That should at after thorough deliberations and mature caution the governments at the Centre and judgment. in the States who should t ::ke steps to see that these regional imbalances arc correct- Our hon. friends have been trying to ed. bring into focus the performance of the various political parties in the mid-term elec- There is one point I want to project tions. It is the sacred duty of every political here in this connection. That is with regard party, to whatever ideology they may belong, to employment opportunities to the local to fight elections on ideologies raiher than people. Of course, grievances on this score bring in personal factors. I find that Mr. should not be taken to the street and settled Dandeker's speech is nothing but crticism of there by resort to violence. But the grievan- our taxes. He spoke about taxes and taxes. ces are there, whether it is Bombay or I am sorry that the Swatantra Party is drift- Andhra Pradesh or Punjab or anywhere else. ing away from the public life of this country. This is due to the stranglehold of the It is not able to grasp the aspirations of the bureaucracy sitting on our head. If a general common man; the members of that party manager is from a particular place, the still live in glass houses. Regional imbalan- moment he gets there he tries to recruit all ces are bad but imbalances within society arc his relations, kith and kin, to the concern. worse. It is the foremost duty of everybody That gives rise to resentment among the to correct these imbalances in society and I local people. This has been happening any- do not know why the Swatantra PallY should where. This aspect must be gone into. This be allergic to correcting these imbalances. has to be looked at from a different pers- pective instead of putting the blame at the SHRI UMANATH: They are drifing door of Government. This is an in-built towards you for a coalition. deficiency in our bureaucratic set-up which is eating into the very vitals of our national SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : You economy and is going against national inte- are also trying to do the same. I feel that aration. This has to be borne in mind, more the Congress Party has not done badly, with particularly by the Government at the Centre some exceptions, particularly in West Bengal. when they think of having central sector Its ideologies and policies are in tune with projects in various places. the aspirations of the people. That it is so SHRI DHIRESWAR KAUTA (Gau- had been proved time and again. But for a hati): How can he eradicate bureaucracy party which has been in uninterrupted power without cuttine up the Government ? for twenty years, it is but natural that certain deficiencies should develop and even the SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : Com- opposition parties are not free from these ina to the Telensana issue, I have got a defects. The United Front in West Bengal botter riabt to speak on this matter because has not been able to elect a leader unanimo- I do not come from either of the two regions usly so far. I understand the difficulty and involved; I come from Rayalaseema. I I sympathise with them. But then lei them could speak with some objectivity about nol point their accusing finger at the tbinaa that have happened there. Nobody Congress. The malady is with all of us, Is happy at what has happened. There are What tactics they are lOins to adopt to get various other forums where we could settle Mr. Iyoti Basu elected as the leader is their 301 No-Confidence Motion MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) No-Confidence Motion 302 internal matter. I have no quarrel over Time after time, people from different that. I am only illustrating the point. areas were saying "Please see that there are can also give an illustration from the United no regional imbalances." Then, the high Front Ministry in Kerala. horse was ridden and it was said, "00 not talk about regions; talk about India only." There are public allegations which have It is good that we talk always of India; it been made by one Minister against another is because we want India to be prosperous, Minister. The CPI (Rightist) Minister because we want India to be united, but be- makes certain allegation s against the Marxist cause we want to see that there are no areas Minister, and the Praja-Socialist Minister, which are dissatisfied, that these points are Shri Kunju, has been subjected very much raised. If some years ago, the Government to personal criticisms on the floor of the had only attended to it, the fanatic regio- House. It is a House divided against itself. nalism would not have raised its head in It is also there, and it is much more so than this country. it is in our rank. So, it does not lie in their mouth to say that their parties are The whole trouble is this: first, when perfect and we are riven with factions and we come to know that there is a deficiency, mutual rivalries. the Government ought to attend to it. Instead of attending to it, they talk of big theoretical I therefore appeal to the House to throw things. The result is what we see today. out this no-confidence motion lock, stock Therefore, it is in a very unhappy frame of and barrel. mind that some of us here rise and speak in this great House. If not here, there is no SHRI TENNETI VISWANATHAM other place where we can express our grieva- (Vishakhapatnam): Mr. Deputy-speaker, nces. Even now the Government commands Sir, let me thank you very much for the some maJorIty. If not throu&hout the early opporunity you have given me. The country, and even here, the Government points raised in the non-onfidence motion do could take certain steps, but they have not. not deserve to be thrown out lock, stock and That is exactly what the no-confidence barrel. Last time, it was all right when it motion has pointed out. It has pinpointed was a three-line motion and everybody had four things : the question of regional imba- his say, and naturally the Congress party lance, and the failure to see what is happe- could show it up. But today, specific points ning throughout the country. have been raised. Points have been raised which have been responsible for the present Some political, economic and other debacle in our national life. matters also mentioned there. This is why I! is true we are sitting here comfortably some of us, who do not belong to any in this hall, but things are not so easy; things recognised parties, want to draw the attention are not so rosy when we go into the country. of Government to these points not for any It is the failure of the Congress. The failures favour. By the good fortune the Minister of the Government bring trouble not only to acquired in there previous lives, they are their party but they bring trouble to the ruling this country now; let them not bring entire nation. That is our trouble. The trouble to the people by omitting to do the one reason why, strength or no strength, a right tbing at the right time and trying to non-confidence motion is souabt to he moved, do the wrong thinl at the wrong time. Two strength or no strength, points are brought years ago, they went on horse-trading and and motions are made against the Government. tappled duly constituted govcmments. These should draw the attention of the Government so that in time they could rectify SHRI CHENGALRA Y A NAIDU matters. If only the Government with its (Chittoor) You wero also involved in hUIC ~orit , which they had some yean horse-trading for sometime as Finance Minster ago, witb the areat aura they bad, if only in Kurnool. they attended to some of their points wbich are on being rabed, when their attention SHRI TENNETI VISWANATHAM : was drawn to them some yean 1180, possibly I connot blame my young frind, becauso he the country would not bave been in this knows very little about me. That is anothor dlflJcult position. matter. 303 No-Con/idenu Motion FEBRUARY 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 304 What was done after the 1967 general reason makes people go into the streets. elections is responsible for the present debacle Things which should be settled at the con- of the Conaress in the four States. Would ference table or on the floor of legislatures Government see the writing on the wall, as are now generally taken away to the streets. Prof. Mukerjee said, not merely for the Therefore, the Government should have more sake of the Congress Party. but for the sake intelligence. The primary duty of a Govern- of the nation? If you do not do things ment is to maintain law and order. Whether correctly, the entire nation suffers. Why it is the State Government or the Central should the people in Andhra or Bombay Government, when buses are burnt, when suffer on account of your omissions? That property is looted, when houses are pulled is why we are pointing out these things. The down, the people are not going to ask you ministers think that we in the opposition do it whether it is the responsibility of the State for the sake of opposition. It is not so. Government or the Central Government to Being in office, the Ministers are not always protect them. There is no use reasoning on able to feel the pulse of the people. Being this fine distinction between State and outside office. we are in better touch with Centre. The State and Centre have a joint the people. Therefore. the Government duty and responsibility. They are partners should listen to us and not brush aside our in a joint venture and that is to make India remarks saying. "What else can the opposi- happier and better. The Central Govern- tion say?" The sooner the Government ment should take a higher responsibility. changes its attitude the better it would be not Wherever they get some intimation, whether only for them but for the nation. I am not it is the State Government or the Central speaking from any party point of view. It is Government, that something is brewing their immaterial who is in Government provided intelligence must work. I am told that in they behave well. Difficulties arise only the State from which I come the Government when those in office do not behave well. when had a nearly three months' warning that those in majority do not have broad-minded- something was about to come. I am also ness. They deprive themselves of the capacity told that the Government did not take any to listen once they get into power. I appeal care about it. The Government think that to the Ministers to listen to our criticisms and all these threats and agitations are merely not give answers trying to score debating points. politically motivated. Politics there may be but There is no use saying that the Communist the real background of it would in most cases Government was no better. Such allegations be economical and want of employment. and counter-allegations do not help the cause of the country. We want economically to prosper. We want that all sections of people Therefore, when unemployment is rising, should share the produce of the country in when the number, particularly, of educated an equitable manner, so that everybody feels unemployed is rising, it is time for the that the fruits of his labour which is responsi- Government to see what could be done. A ble fore devolopins the wealth of the country number of times during the budget debates reference is made to unemployment and to is returned to him in an equitable manner. The Directive Principles and other consti- the increase in the number.!' of unemployed. tutional provisions say that the wealth shall What is the attention that Government are be shared equally. But those principles are paying to that? If for ten years the Govern- not followed. Even the present Constitution, ment had only cared to see that proper if implemented, is capable of givins the areatest employment opportunities arc given to all, satisfaction to the people. not merely Government employment but also employment in industry or otherwise. possihly But the difficulty is, it is not followed. the present troubles would not have arisen. Several things have been said. I can repeat them. Everybody knows them. I need not repeat what Shri Mukerjee said. I do not My suaeation to them is to ... that they want to repeat but only underline what he live employment opportunities or aclf-em- has said. It is better that this Government pIoymcnt opportunities to the greatost numbel' -. these things more correctly. of people. There is DO usc simply iocreuIoa the nurnbel' of employment ClICbu\IeI and BccaUIC of tbe aeneral backaround of MY that it is DOt poaaiblc for Oo_t dis-satlsf",ion and discontent the sliahtest to find employment for eYel')'body. They 305 No-Con/ithnce Motion MAOHA 29, 1890 (SAKAl No-Collfid_ Motion 306 must create employment opportunities. My credSC the employment opportunities, self- first suggestion would be, for Government to employment opportunities to the people of improve employment facilities, to see that so this country who are getting educated aud far as consumer industries are concerned they technically trained, you cannot solve this make it a point to get small-scale machinery problem. More than that, without going into redesigned and give plenty of opportunities the theories or technical points, whenever to those who can run their own industry. there is break down of law and order, it is Thousands of people who have been trained the primary duty of the Central Government in polytechnics and engineering colleges arc to take the initiative to go into the root of getting unemployed. Why should their the matter and try to solve it. They should knowledge be wasted? Why don't you give not wait till some message comes from the them opportunities for self-employment ? State and then try to act ; in the meanwhile Why do you use your controls only to enrich much valuable time will be lost. Once a those who are already rich and deprive others glass is broken, you cannot make it into even the usc of their knowledge ? one. 17.34 hrs. So my appeal to you is this. Do not [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] always say that law and order is a State subject. may be State subject. Even then If the hon. Finance Minister and the It a Home Minister would care to listen to what I you must be active and alert. It may be a am saying: if they want to solve the question State subject for the first hour. In the second of discontentment in this country, they know hour things may become so complicated that the depth of this discontentment and they it ceases to be a State subject. Unless Ilw realise it as much as I d Tbercforc, I want the Oo_t to J repeat, J am not saying that the Home think in a constnK:tiw wa)'. ~ you in- Miniller has deliberately rcmabIed IillDt 307 No-Confidence Motion FEBRUAR Y 18, 1969 No-Confidence Motion 308 [Shri Tenneti Viswanathanl it, 'T<1forr, it lfT;r m 1I' ~ I ~,'Ii or anything of that sort. But the Home i'\'TIf il' I ~ 'T1<: ~ 't ~~ it fn ll:T :m [';iT ~'fl~ f~ ~r. ~ ~If ;;if if;m I iIi~, ~ 'I'h: ~~, it ~iI" ouT ~ fJiI" I ~ '1#-9" m~ If it;zr) lf~iI. t~, ~ ~If \VI' ifi) ~~ltm ~ IflfT if ~~ - ':\ 0 ~rn ~ ii If ~1" ~ ~ ~iI" I ~ If flff~H lf~l ~~ ij1:1; it; ~1 it ~ 1f1f1 ~"'t, Cf~ ifil" WCf ~ ~,'f' fIJ !J~~ 1f0'i¥ ~ if ~ aft\" gt If{ ~ 'q"R ':3'iiiF fG'lfllf i 1if ~ fJiI" ~ I 1:1;if; ~, 1ZIJT ,~ 'l'eTliiT f'f' mer ~1 (l'if; 'ltTt 1f f~ ii 'f."1 19i~if ~ ~ fl9i ~ ~ f~1 if iiT III ~ ~ fit; i f~ ~ smr rn ~ ~ omf 91£ uOI/on ,~u~ !luo J o 6961 '81 AlIVnl11l3::i UOI/oW ~Ju~ !l J o H~ 317 No-Colfjidelfce Mo,iart MAGHA 29, 1890 (SAKA) B. A. C. Report 318 ~I "l~~fir ~lfmtm~ ~ mIJ l!iT ~r f IIfi't ~rlfl on: flfflTlfT ~~I i If ~lim ~~I ~~ 'if ~ t I ~ f~i r GT ~t ni! iii ~ IIfTIt ~ ~ ~~'m f~ ;;rOfcrr ~ r ~ ~ li on: ~i r ~ a it cr. f~~ i't Cf~ ~ ~~ elm 'l1T;rOfT '¢ ~ lfi!: ~ ~ m