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1892. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE. 3385 to allow the appropriation to b3 stricken out. I am sure that HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. there will be no difficulty in having an appropriation yet before this Congress expires to carry out the purpose of the bill, after Mo'ND.A.Y, .April18, 1892. the titles have been perfected. The House met at 12 o'clock m. Prayer by the Chaplain, The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Mississippi Rev. W. H. MILBURN. D. D. moves that the Senate concur in the House amendment. The Journal of the proceedings of Saturday was read and ap­ The amendment was concurred in. proved. Mr. GEORGE. I move that the Senate adjourn. FRENCH SPOLIATION CLAIMS. The motion was agreed to; and (at 5 o'clock and 2 minutes p. rp.) the Senate adjourned until to-morrow, Tuesday, April 19, The SPEAKER laid before the House acommunicationfrom the 1892, at 12 o'clock meridian. assistant clerk of the Court of Claims, transmitting a copy of the findings of the court in the French spoliation claims arising out of the seizure of the vessel " Speculator;" which was re­ NOMINATION. ferred to the Committee on Claims, and ordered to be printed. Executive nomination received by the Senate April18, 189e. CLAIMS ALLOWED BY ACCOUNTING OFFICERS OF THE TREAS· APPRAISER OF MERCHANDISE. URY. James H. Butler, of Maryland, to be appraiser of merchandise The SPEAKER also laid before the House a letter from the Sec­ in the district of Baltimore, in the State of Maryland, to succeed retary of the Treasury~ transmitting, in compliance with section Cecil J. Karsner, removed. 2 of the act of July 7, 1884, schedules of claims allowed by the several accounting officers of the Treasury Department; which CONFIRMATIONS. was referred to the Committee on Appropriations, and, with Executive norninations confirmed by the Senate Ap1~il18, 1892. accompanying papers, ordered to b3 printed. CONSUL. M. R. KIRKPATRICK. Nicholas Wertheim, a German subject, to be consul of the The SPEAKER also laid before the House a letter from the United States at Moscow. assistant clerk of the Court of Claims, transmitting a copy of the APPRAISER OF MERCHANDISE. findings of the court in the case of M. R. Kirkpatrick vs. The United States; which was referred to the Committee on War William C. Ralston, of California, to be appraiser of merchan­ Claims, and ordered to be printed. dise in the district of San Francisco, in the State of California. COLLECTOR OF CUSTOMS. LEAVE OF ABSENCE. Henry Z. Osborne, of California, now collector of customs for Bv unanimous consent, leave of absence was granted as follows: the district of Wilmington, in the State of California, to be col­ To Mr. WoLVERTON, for four days, on account of important lector of customs for the district of Los Angeles, in the State of business. California. · · To Mr. HENDERSON of North Carolina, for four days, on ac­ count of important business. APPOINTMENT IN REVENUE SERVICE. SWAMP-LAND GRANTS. Thomas B. Brown, of Pennsylvania, to be a second assistant engineer"i!Ji}>ftRevenue Cutter Service. The SPEAKER. On a previous occasion the Committee on Public Lands was passed in the call of committees for motions PROMOTION IN MARINE HOSPITAL SERVICE. to suspend the rules. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Passed Assistant Surg. William A. Wheeler, of Indiana, to Arkansas [Mr. McRAE]. be a surgeon in the Marine Hospital Service of the United Mr. McRAE. Mr. Speaker, I am directed by the Committee States. on Public Lands to move to suspend the rules and pass the bill PROMOTIONS IN THE NAVY. which I .send to the desk. Medical Director John Mills Browne, to be Surgeon-General The bill was read, as follows: and Chief of the Bureau of Medicine and Surgery. A bill (H. R. 5892) to adjust the swamp-land grants, to fix a limitation for Commodore James A. Greer, to be a rear-admiral in the Navy. the filing of claims thereunder, and for other purposes. Capt. Henry Erben, to be a commodore in the Navy. Be it enacted, etc., That it shall be the duty of the proper officers of the Treasury and Interior Departments, as soon as practicable, to adjust and PROMOTIONS IN THE ARMY. settle the claims of any State against the United States for all lands which have been or may hereafter be sold, or otherwise disposed of by the United Oaval?1J ann. States that were included in any grant of swamp and overflowed lands to Capt. Myles Moylan, Seventh Cavalry, to ba major. such State. First Lieut. John C. Gresham, Seventh Cavalry, to be captain. SEc. 2. That for all of said lands in any State which were sold for cash the said State shall have credit for the full amount of the purchase money re­ Second Lieut. Selah R. H. Tompkins, Seventh Cavalry, to be ceived by the United States and the same shall be paid over to the governor first lieutenant. or treasurer of said State; and for all of said lands in any State located with Second Lieut. Charles W. Farber, Eighth Cavalry, to be first warrants or scrip or which were otherwise dL<>posed of by the United States, and for which indemnity has not heretofore been granted, such State shall lieutenant. have indemnity in cash, the amount thereof to be limited to the price at Infantry a?"?n. which the lands were held at the date of their disposal by the United States, the said indemnity to be paid as herein provided in the cases where lands First Lieut. Arthur L. Wagner, Sixth Infantry, to be captain. were sold for cash. Second Lieut. R-obert L. Bullard, Tenth Infantry, to be first SEC. 3. That the Secretary of the Interior shall, when adjustments and al­ lieutenant. lowances, if any, are made by him under this act, report the same to the Sec­ retary of the Treasury, showing the amount ascertained to be due from the Capt. Samuel R. Jones, Fourth Artillery, to be assistant quar­ United States to such State on account of lands sold or otherwise disposed termaster with the rank of captain. of, and a description of the lands for which such indemnity is allowed, with Capt. Constantine Chase, assistant quartermaster, to be cap- the names of the persons to whom sold, patented, or granted, and the date the same was sold or otherwise disposed of; and the Secretary of the Treas­ tain of artillery. · ury shall cause such State to be credited with the amount or amounts so al­ POSTMASTERS. lowed and reported by the Secretary of the Interior, as of the last day of the year in which it was received or the lands otherwiSe disposed of, as the case Charles E. Brady, to be postmaster at Sandwich, in the county may be, and apply the same on the payment of any debt of the State to the of Barnstable and State of Massachusetts. United States, if any, and pay the balance, if any, over to the governor or Charles R. Van Giesen, to be postmaster at Weather!o·d, in treas.urerof the State. SEC. 4. That the acceptance by any State or its legal representative of in­ the county of Parker and State of Texas. _ demnity for any of the lands sold or otherwise disposed of by the United Charles J. Hostrasser, to be postmaster at Hearne, in the county States shall be a relinquishment and waiver of all its right, title, and interest of Robertson and State -of Texas. in and to such lands in place, and an acknowledgment and confirmation ot the title thereto in the grantees of the United States. Benjamin S. Johnson, to be postmaster at Puyallup, in the SEc. 5. That all selections of lands heretofore made, and all swamp-land county of Pierce and State of Washington. indemnity proofs now on file in the Department, taken in accordance with Leon L. Therme, to be postmaster at Farmington, in the county the rules of the Department at the date of the same, and which have not been finally rejected, shall be used in making adjustments under this act. of Van Buren and State of Iowa. SEc. 6. That all claims for lands in place, for cash, lands, or other indem­ Thomas A. Way, to be postmaster at Britt, in the county of nity, under the swamp-land laws or under this act. shall be forever barred Hancock and State of Iowa. unless presented to the Secretary of the Interior within two years from the Fred E. Milliken, to be postmaster at Gardiner, in the county . passage of this act. of Kennebec and State of Maine. The SPEAKER. Is a second demanded? Diederich P. Buchholz, to be postmaster at Altamont, in the Mr. KILGORE. Mr. Speaker, I demand a second. county of Effingham and State of Illinois. The SPEAKER. The Chair will appoint the gentleman from Alex McElroy, to be postmaster at Rockford, in the county of Arkansas [Mr. McRAE] and the gentleman from Texas [Mr. KIL- Floyd and State of Iowa. GORE] as tellers. · Cyrenius E. Morr:is, to be postmaster at Coon Rapids, in the Mr. McRAE. I ask tmanimous consent that a second be con­ county of Carroll and State ol1owa. · sidered as ordered. • . .

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The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Arkansas asks unani- Mr. KILGORE. And when the amount is ascertained that mous consent that a second may be considered as ordered. would be due to the States under this .adjudication which you Mr. KILGORE. I object. propose, would not an .appropriation be tP.en required, or do you The SPEAKER. The tellers will take their places. , provide for the appropriation? The House divided; and the tellers reported-ayes 155, noes 15. Mr. McRAE. The bill does not provide for an appropriation, So a second was ordered. because I will not assume, until the De-partment so deeides, that The SPEAKER. The Chair will recognize the gentleman any great number of erroneous sales have been made; but what- from Arkansas [Mr. McRAE] to control the filteen minutes' de- ever such sales there may have been the bill provides that the bate in favor of the proposition and the gentleman from Texas Government shall correct as I have stated. [Mr. KILGORE] to control the fifteen minutes against it. Whenever the allowances have been made, if ever then, of Mr. McRAE. Mr.Speaker, the purpose of this bill is to .adjust course, Congress will be expected to .app:ropriate for it, just as what is known as the swamp-land grant of September 28, 1850, it appropriates now to refund the money to the settlers if in and to provide a limitation upon the Statesfo? the filing of claims States not indebted to the Unit9d States. Under the existing under it. The grant covered the whole of the swamp and over- law annual appropriations are made for the purpose of refund­ flowed lands, made thereby unfit for cultivation, and unsold at ing to the settlers. The bill will save th~ GDvernment by the the time. All legal subdivisions the greater part of which was limitation upon claims and by Cl'Bdits on debt due it much more wet and unfit for cultivation were by the act declared to be swamp than it will cost, and do an act of justice to many of its grantees, lands, and the Secretary of the Interior was requir,ed to prepare and besides settle with the States now iri default. lists of such land as soon as practicable. Such lists w13re never Mr. KILGORE. You say you are unwilling to presume that made, and claims are still being pres:mted each year by the there has been any considerable number of sales made in viola­ States. The Commissioner of the General Land Offioo in his last tion of the arrangement batween the States and the Federal report says thatunlesssomeactis passed the present force of ex- Government. If that is so, would it not be. better to let the aminers in the field and the clerical force in his office now em- matter stand as it is, and not throw the whole business into con­ played on swamp-land indemnity must be continued from year to fusion by the passage of a complicated measure like this? year for an indefinite period of timB. He suggests a. limitation Mr. MoRAE. This bill does not make but on the contrary re- of three years; the bill fixes two. lieves against confusion and trouble. It does not complicate ibut The grant was a present grant and aU· such lands have ever simplifies matters. It is simply a questi<>n whether or not Con­ since remained so granted. The grant is the law and the deed- gress will do justice by those to whom it has erroneously granted and the courts, both State and Federal, have, without exception., lands.; held that the title passed to and vested in the States immediately Mr. McMILLIN. Will the gentleman permit me a question? on the 28th day of September, 1850. The words of the grant are Mr. McRAE. Yes, sir. direct and positive, and the difficulty of ascertaining the char- J\ir~ McMILLIN. How much money do3s you:r committee es- acter of the land does not affect:the question. Some of these lands timate will be required to m.Set the obligations of this act? _ have been disposed of bythe Government since the grant to the Mr. McRAE. :Possibly it will not require anaddition&ldollar States. The purchasers of course get no title, and unless they over the amount that will be required under the present iaw. purchase from the State they must lose their land and take a re- Now there is n-o limitation upon the filing of ~laims. The bill fund of their purchase money without interest under section 2362 makes one of two years. of the Revised Statutes. Mr. McMILLIN. Then w'hat good is. the act? · Under this bill the purchase money received, if sold, or the M:r. McRAE. It quiets th<;l title of these settle d author- minimum price if otherwise disposed of, will be credited and paid izes credits-to the States. In short, it-- to the States and the titles confirmed to the grantees of th,e M1·. McMILLIN. Which seetir not exactly tD the State governments. where the original grant placed it. It does not seek t.o ~hange Mr. McRAE. Yes; that is the main purpose. that in any particular. Mr. KILGORE. Is there not a:notherpurpose,name1y, to pay Mr. McMILLIN. You can not give any estimate as to what to the States money that those lan-ds were supposed to be worth? amount will be required to meet th-e -G-bligations provided for in Mr. McRAE. The bill would only pay .to the States the pur- this bill. chase money that the United 'States received !or the lands. Mr. McRAE. The amount and number of erroneons sales can The lands belonged to the States by reason of the grant, ·and the never be known until aU the claims are passed upon one by one. Federal GDvernment erroneously sold them -and received the This the !bill directs the Department to do. money for them, and why should the States not have the pur- Mr. McMILLIN. The gentleman. said he w.as not :prepared to chase price? -The bill seeks to credit the money to the States say that any would be required. that were entitled to land only after the Government itself ha-s Mr. McRAE. I said that I was not prepared to say that the ad- decided that it has made err<>neoUB Bales of such lands. justment under this bill would cost more than under existing Mr:KILGORE. But is there nota great deal of controversy law and Department meth-ods. Under the bill we will have an as to whether these lands were swamp lands? _ end of the matter, while under the .1Mvs uo:w in for:ce there is Mr. McRAE. There has been in the past, and ther-e will be no end, and no final adjustment possible. in the future, much trouble and litigation upon this and other Mr: McMILLIN. But if there is not something to go out in points, unless this or a similar bill should pass. We ,do by this consequence of this legislation then there has been no violation measure all that can be done to ·end this trouble by providing a of the arrangement between the States and th-e Federal Govern­ limitation, a-nd leave the Department with all the power it needs ment. to determine the character of the law. It leaves the Depart- Mr. McRAE. The gentleman has certainly IaiJ._ed to 'lmder­ ment itself to say, according to its own methods and in its own stand that under the present law the States take the land in time, whether errors have been committed. place and the settler gets the mone_y he paid refunded to him. ·Mr. OATES. If the gentleman will allow me a suggestion. This bill r everses this, and gives the settler the land he bought The object is to pay over to the States the money which the and the States the money. I do not mean to be understood a.s say­ Federal Government.realized from the sale of lands that be- ing that no money will be required to adjust these old grant but longed to the States. I do believe that le"s actual moneyl\rul be paid out in the end. un- Mr. McRAE. That and nothing more~ der this bill than under the present plan of .adjustment. The M:t•. KILGORK How long have these s-ales been going on? most of the money a-ccruing under this bill would be credited Mr. :McRAE. The act was passed September 28, 18~0. An in- to States indebted to the United States. Th.e Treasury officials demnity act in many respects similar to this was passed March will not adjust and pay our State b3caus9 she lis indebted to the 3, 1857 ~and I pres\Uile that some errone0uil saJes have been made United Sta-tes, and they will not credit ;the 'Sums when adjusted ·from time to time since then. on the debt because the law does not• authorize it, and Congress -.

~ 1892. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 3387 will not give authority. That is our condition, while the State Mr. KILGORE. This is about the same bill which was_pend­ is annually advertised as in default, ing in the Filiieth CongreEs? Mr. HOLMAN. I hope my :friend from Arkansas-- Mr. McRAE. Who made any such statement? I challenge • Mr. McRAE. I can not yield to gentlemen any further. My the truth of the statement, and demand that the gentleman state time is too limited. Mr. Speaker, how much time have I left? the authority on which he makes it. The SPEAKER. Eight minutes. Mr. KILGORE. Well, I am not bound to give my authority Mr. McRAE. I reserve that time until gentlemen on the unless I want to. [Laughter.] :Sut that is the information that other side have exhausted their time. came to me authoritatively from the Interior Department during Mr. KILGORE. Mr. Speaker, I am willing to yield any por­ the sitting of the Fiftieth Congress. Now, I understand this is tion of my time to the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. HOLMAN] the same bill, or about the same bill that was then pending. or the gentleman from Tennessee [Mr. McMILLIN]. I am not Mr. McRAE. Itis not the same blll; and I deny that any such familiar enough with this question to discuss it; I will leave statement was ever made by any officer of the Depa1·tment in re­ that for others who know more about it. lation to this bill or one like it. Mr. HOLJ\1AN. Mr. Speaker, I have butasingleword to say. Mr. KILGORE. Was thm:e not a bill similar to this pending I have not had time even to read this bill. I understand the in the Fiftieth Congress? · - general subject very well. This is a bill which affects a large num­ Mr. McRAE. Not similar; it embraced the general features ber of States, including my own; and it will involve a large sum of ofthis bill andmuchmore. In thiswehave endeavored t<> elimi­ money-nobody can tell how much. All I have to say is that I nate everything to which there could be any reasonable objec­ think the House ought not to pass a bill of such importance upon tion. a motion to suspend the rules. Mr. KILGORE. There was justsuch a statement made to me Mr. McMILLIN. Has the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. HoL­ at the Interior Department-not only in writing, but orally-in MAN] any estimate of what expenditure will be required to meet one of the offices of the J;nterior Department by a man who the provisions of the bill in his State alone? seemed to know what he was saying. Mr. HOLMAN. It will require a very large sum of money. Mr. TERRY. Will the gentleman allow a question? As the gentleman from Texas has already said, where in any Mr. KILGORE. Yes, sir. State there is not land to be given in exchange for swamp land Mr. TERRY. I would like to ask the gentleman how it can disposed of, then the money is to be paid; and it concerns my cost the Government of the United States any more to credit the State to the extent of several hundred thousand dollars, in my States with the $1.25 per acre, if that is the price at which the judgment. lands were sold, than it would cost to give that sum directly to the Mr. McMILLIN. Yow· State alone? party who is evicted or whose title is declared worthless, as the Mr. HOLMAN. Yes. I do not think such a bill ought to pass Government is in duty bound to do? under a motion to suspend the rules. Mr. McRAE. And as the Government does do everv month Mr. STOCKDALE. As the gentleman from Indiana stateR in the year. ~ that he is familar with this general subject I would like to ask him Mr. TERRY. Every settler who loses his land by reason of a question. As I understand, this measure affects cases where an invalid title from the United States has a right to go to the la.nda have been granted by the Government to the States as Government and have the purchase money refunded. I ask, then, swamp land under the act of 1850-- how can it cost the Gove1·nmentone cent more to pay to the settlers Mr. HOLMAN. Yes, sir. in the swamp-land States what is due for their ·failure of title. Mr. STOCKDALE. And where afterward the Government than it will cost to credit that amount to the States and have it sold these lands to settlers? settled in that way? · Mr. HOLMAN. They have been disposed of in various ways. Mr. KILGORE. Well, I am not prepared to give an answer Mr. STOCKDALE. As I was saying, the Governmen\ sold to to the gentleman's question. I do not understand, as I stated settlers lands which had previously been granted to the States. before, exactly what the bill proposes. In fact, I do not know Now, whenever those cases came into court, both the State and anything about it. the Federal courts have held that the grant to the State is para­ But I yield now to the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. BER- mount; that the State can oust settlers and hold the land. Now, GEN]. . the purpose of this bill is that in such cases the State shall not Mr. HOLMAN. Before the gentleman yields I want to say a sue the settler, but shall accept the money that the United States word. Government received for this land, land.which without this act The SPEAKER. How much time does the gentleman yield? could be recovered from the settler. Thus the effect of the bill Mr. KILGORE. I yield five minutes to the gentleman from is to prevent litigation. New Jersey. Mr. HOLMAN. Well, up to thistimenosuchsuitshavebeen Mr. BERGEN. Mr. Speaker, I want to answer the question brought; no State receiving a grant of lanq from the Federal which has just been propounded by the gentleman from Arkansas Government has thought proper to make that the foundation of [Mr. TERRY] when the gentleman from Texas was occupying the a claim against its citizens. floor. Of course it will cost the United States Government no more. to pay directly to the settlers on these lands than it would I Mr. STOCKDALE. Suits have been brought by thegrantees to pay the same amount to the States. But the question is will of the Stateagainstthegranteesof the General Government over the Government have to pay either the settlers upon these lands and over again. or the States? Mr. HOLMAN. See how this bill will operate in a State like A MEMBER. Of course, if their title is no good. mine-the State of Indiana. A large grant of land was made to Mr. BERGEN. The whole question involved here is this, that State for the construction of the Wabash Canal; that grant that the Government of the United States disputes the right of embraced a large amount of swamp lands. Now, do you propose the States to make title to these lands. This bill proposes to to pay Indiana, or the men who have obtained by aBsignment settle that question by handing over the money which the Gov­ those claims? ernment of the United States ha.s received for the lands to the Mr. McRAE. No, sir; there is no provision for that in the States; thus conceding the claim that the State has the title and bill; that provision, which was in some of the prior bills, has that the Government of the United States has been atrespa.sser. been stricken out of this one. Mr. McRAE. Will the gentleman permit me-- Mr. HOLMAN. It may have been; I have not had time to Mr. BERGEN. Oh, I understand what the gentleman claims examine the bill carefully. that this bill does. Mr. McRAE. The gentleman should not misrepresent the Mr. McRAE. Then, if you understand it you are not stating bill. It provides for the redemption of no scrip and authorizes it correctly. It leaves the adjustment altogether with the De­ no payments except to the States. partment, just as it is now. It hands no money over until the Mr. HOLMAN. I know what the bill provided heretofore. Interior Department admits an erroneous sale. Mr. McRAE. There is no such provision as you have discus ed Mr. BERGEN. And this question is now brought into this in the bill now. House for settlement. The gentleman claims that it leaves the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Texas [Mr. KILGbRE] adjustment with the Department, but the ulterior question that is entitled to the floor. is jnvolved is, to whom do these swamp lands belong under the Mr. KILGORE. Mr. Speaker, I do not know anything about acts of 1850 ~nd 1857? Do they b3long to the State in which this bill. [Laughter.] I have some information that came to they are located, or to the Government of the United States? me from the Interior Department during the sitting of the Fif­ Does the patent of the United States carry title or does the tieth Congress; and that information (whether it was accurate war rant from the individual State? That is the question that or not I am not prepared to say) was that it would cost the Gov­ i inv-olved. ernment of the United States $50,000,000 to settle this matter if M.r. OATES. That question is easily settlea. this bill should go through. Mr. TERRY. The Supreme Court of the United States has Mr .•McRAE. Who made any such statement? already settled it.

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Mr. BERGEN. It may be easily settled, but it is not to be that, then with all my heart I shall support it; but until then it solved in the manner provided b.ere. The fact is that many of seems to me that the interests of the Government are great these lands are not swamp lands at all. enough to at least call for careful consideration of the matter, Mr. McRAE. Then they did not pass under the swamp land and that there should ba more than fifteen minutes discussion on act, and no indemnity for it could be allowed under this bill. a side, when there is not even time to read the report. The bill Mr. BERGEN. They are dry lands, but have been claimed by may be right. The gentleman having it in charge, and the com­ the States as swamp lands; and the right to make title to them mitting reporting it, certainly think so. But dealing as it does as swamp lands is claimed on the part of the individual States, with our public lands, and possibly involving large appropria­ and so alsQ. the right to the moneys that have arisen from their tions first or last, I think it should, when disposed of, receive sale. The United States disputes this and says that the States careful consideration, and be subject to amendment, if amend­ have no business to make title; and no right to receive the pro­ ment should be found necessary. ceeds arising from the sales. Such is the situation to-day-such Mr. McRAE. I yield three minutes to the gentleman from is the situation of this bill. Such was what was undertaken to Alabama (Mr. OATES]. be settled in the Fiftieth Congress and was defeated in the Fifty­ Mr. OATES. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from New Jersey first Congress, and. is now undertaken to be foisted on this House especially, and some others, seem to misconceive the purpose of under suspension of the rules. this bill and the case upon which it is made. The granting of Mr. PICKLER. The gentleman from New Jersey certainly swamp or overflowed lands by the United States to the different does not wish to mislead the House. Does he not know-- States of the Union in which the United States owned publia / Mr. BERGEN. It is proposed now to pass this bill through lands carried the title to those lands into the States. Subse­ this House without full investigation or understanding of the quently to their selection-and whether that was erroneous or subject and in opposition to the expressed opinion of Congress not is not the question now-- heretofore. Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. It ought to be the question. Mr. PICKLER. Does the gentleman undertake to say that That question should be considered and fixed by the bill. this bill was defeated in the Fifty-first Congress? Mr. OATES. There have been some errors in the selection of Mr. BERGEN. And, Mr. Speaker, I was told by alate Com­ those lands. It is a fact that some lands which were swamp or missioner of the General Land Office that the bill would carry overflowed at the time of the selection are now dry lands. $80,000,000. Mr. STOCKDALE. But the title has passed. Mr. McRAE. What Commissioner? Mr. OATES. But the title passed by the grant, and when the Mr. BERGEN. Well, you ought to know him better than!­ Government participated in the location through its surveyors, under Mr. VILAS. the title of the State was perfect. Subsequently the United Mr. McRAE. But what Commissioner·made any such state­ States sold or disposed of parts ot these lands for homestead pur­ ment? poses, and by cash entry, at a doll-ar and a quarter an acre; and Mr. BERGEN. !said a late Commissioner. I have no doubt these lands are now occupied by settlers, in the main, and the be was a good Democrat. The Commissionerof the Land Office question of title is thereby raised. Where is the title? These under Secretary VILAS. homestead purchasers have paid their money to the Government, Mr. McRAE. You say he told you that itwouldcost$80,000,- but the Government has no title to grant them. Now, this bill 000. The gentleman from Texas says he told him it would cost proposes an adjustment with the States in which the title is, by $50,000,000. Why he could have said it would cost $100,000,000 paying back to the States the money which the Government real­ just as easily. There is no truth in either statement. ized for the sale of the land, whether it was homestead or whether Mr. BERGEN. He said it was exceedingly difficult for any­ it was cash entry. The bill simply provides for the return to the body to estimate exactly what such a bill would carry. He said State of the money received by the Government for the lands it was a vicious bill, a dangerous bill for any Congress to pass; sold. The Government had no right to sell lands to which it that it carried more than anybody could understand, because had no title. it undertook, under the provisions of the bill, to claim not only Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. Will the gentleman yield what the Government admitted was swamp land, but also what for a question? was reported to be such by the surveyors working either in the Mr. OATES. My time is very shorh, but I will yield. interest of the State or of individuals, and the surveyor was often Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. Does the bill provide for a. an unreliable :t>erson or thought to be so by the Department. I return by the States to the Government of the value of the lands think the bill1s a bad bill. · improperly taken as swamp lands? Mr. KILGORE. I yield one minute to the gentleman from In­ . Mr. OATES. The State has nothing to do with that, as I diana [Mr. HOLMAN]. stated in the beginning. . . Mr. HOLMAN. Mr. Speaker, in that one minute I wish sim­ Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. Then it is a one-sided affair? ply to say that the swamp-land laws are now being executed un­ Mr. OATES. The gentleman assumes that the selections were der the act of 1857. Nobody takes any exception to the opera­ made wholly by the State, when they were made by the State tion of that law. It operates fairly and justly to aU the States, and the United States combined. and I hope that that law will not be. interfered with by legisla­ Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. I am aware of that, and it tion at this late day. was done fraudulently to a very large extent. Mr. KILGORE. I yield the remainder of my time to the gen­ Mr. OATES. Then the United Stat9s ought not to take ad- tleman from Tennessee [Ml'. McMILLIN]. vantage of its own fraud. Mr. McMILLIN. Mr. Speaker, I would be glad if I could s2e Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. But the State participated, the effect of this bill sufficiently to give it my support, because [Here the hammer fell.] my strong inclination is to go with the report of the committee Mr. McRAE. I yield twominutestomycolleague [Mr. TERRY]. generally upon these questions; but up to this time, in a matter Mr. TERRY. Mr. Speaker, this bill does not add one cent of lia- involving so much of the public lands in the then public-land bilitytowhat the Government is already liable for. If the Gov­ States of the Union in 1850, we have not got one single expres­ ernment of the United States has undertaken to convey to any sion from any man favoring this m easure as to how much money citizen a title that it did not possess, then the Government of it is going to cost, or what will ba the expense to the Govern­ the United States is bound in justice to refund that amount of ment, or what its operation will be. money to the settler whose title bas failed. Now, instead of re· Now, I do not know what would be the effect on cases of this funding that money to the settler this bill says that it shall re­ kind. Maj. Albert Akers, one of the most vigilant and efficient fund that money to the State, and that the settler's title shall be officers of the Government, was s ent~by the la-3t Administration quieted. into one of thesa States where swamp lands existed. He re­ Under the law as H now stands the State or the State's vendee ported to the Interior Department that he found· 400,000. acres can evict- the Government's vendee. The difference between of land in that State that bad been set apart and treated as swamp the title conveyed by the United States and the State is simply lands on w bich there was not one acre of swamp. this: Until the emanation of the patent of the Government of the Mr.. McRAE. Then those lands do not pass by this bill? · United States the State's title is no more than a title under a Mr. McMILLIN. That is what we ought to know with cer­ bond for title. When a patent bas emanated it is then a title as tainty. under a deed; but the Supreme Courh of the United States has Mr. McRAE. We do know it with certainty, and there is decided that the title took effect in equity the moment the grant nothing in the bill that would justify the statement that such was passed and the selection made. •lands would pass. Mr. DICKERSON. Will the gentleman yield for a question? Mr. McMILLIN. Now, I stand ready to assist-every settler Mr. TERRY. I have not time to yield for a question. Mr. and every Stata to the obtaining of legal and equitable rights Speaker, gentlemen are opposing this bill on the ground that under the law; but further than that, in giving the public lands they have not had time to consider it. Beyond that there is of this Union, I am not inclined to go. If we can have this bill nothing in their pos1tion. If they can not vote for a bill they do considered so as to show that it does that, and does no more than not understand, they can not vote for one in a hundred pf the '

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bills reported to this Congress. They have to trust something ernment. The question is whether we will make the titles of the to the committees, and why not do so in this instance? purchasers good or not. The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. BERGEN. Is any title being defeated by not passing this Mr. McRAE. I yield one minute more to the gentleman from bill? . Alabama [Mr. OATES]. Mr. McRAE. There have been thousands of titles defeated, Mr. OATES. Mr. Speaker, as I understand the case, some of and many more will be if matters go on as they are now. these gentlemen may not understand the process under which Mr. TERRY. There have been many titles defeated in Ar· the selections of swamp or overflowed lands were made. kansa.s. Mr. BLOUNT. Mr. Speaker, this is an important bill, and I 'rhe SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman has expired. hope we will have order. Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. I ask unanimous consent • r The SPEAKER. The gentlemen will please cease conversa­ that the discussion on this bill be continued for thirty minutes. tion. · It is a very important bill, involving a large amount of money. Mr. 0 ATES. The principle upon which this land was selected The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gen- was this: If the major portion of a subdivision was swamp or tleman from New Jersey? overflowed, although the minor part of it was dry land, it was Mr. BERGEN. I object. [Cries of "Don't!"]. selected a.s swamp land; and in that way gentlemen will sfle into Mr. McRAE. No objection is made on this side. what an error they fall when they say that a large amount of The SPEAKER (the question having been put). The Chair is these lands selected were not overflowed. It is a fact that large in doubt, as this requires a two-thirds vote. quantities of dry lands were called overflowed lands because they The House again divided; and there were-ayes 68, noes 50. were parts of subdivisions which the Government surveyors found Mr. McRAE. Mr. Speaker, I demand tellers. to be swamp lands. Under the rule they were necessarily set Tellers were ordered; and the Speaker appointed Mr. McRAE aside'as swamp lands. The United States surveyors made the and Mr. KILGORE. surveys, the States made those selections, and reported them to Pending the division by tellers, th~ Interior Department. In that way they were set aside as Mr. KILGORE said: Mr. Speaker, would it be in order at this overflowed lands. point to ask for the yeas and nays on this question? The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman has expired. The SPEAKER. It would. Mr. LIND. Will the gentleman from Alabama yield for a Mr. KILGORE. Well, sir, I demand the yeas and nays. question? The yeas and nays were ordered-38 members voting in favor The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Arkansas has two min­ thereof. utes remaining. The question was taken; and.there were-yeas 111, nays 77, not Mr. LIND. May I ask the gentleman from Alabama a question? voting 139; as follows: The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman has expired and YEAS-111. he can not answer a question. Aiexander, Crawford, Hermann, O'Neill, Mo. Allen, Culberson, Hooker, Miss. Owens, Mr. McRAE. Mr. Speaker, I am sorry that we have not more Bailey, De Armond, Hooker, N. Y. Paynter, time to consider this bill than we have. I am perfectly willing Baker, Dockery, Hull, Pendleton, to have it examined and discussed fully. It will stand the strict­ Earwig, Dolliver, Johnson, N. Dak. Perkins, Beeman, Durborow, Jolley, Pickler, est scrutiny. Ithasbeenfavorablyreportedfrom the Committee Bland, Edmunds, Kyle, Sayers, on Public Lands. It was soTeported in the Forty-ninth, Fiftieth, Blount. .l!.llis, Lane, Scott, and Fifty-first Congresses. It has always received the approval Bowman, English, Lanham, Seerley, Breckinridge, Ky. Epes, Lewis, Shonk, of this House whenever it has been brought before it for its con­ Brickner, Everett, Lodge, Stewart, Tex. sideration. It is a just measure: if there ever was one presented Bullock, Fellows, Long, Stockdale, to this House. Bushnell, Fithian, Lynch, Stone, Ky. If repudi~ Butler, Forman, Mallory, Sweet, the Congress of the United States does not mean to Byrns, Forney, McAleer, Tarsney, ate its contracts made with its settlers and the States, and to rob Cable, Fowler, McCreary, Terry, the one of their homes and the other of just credits due under Caldwell, Funston, McKeighan, Tillman, Caminetti, Geary, McRae, Tucker, every rule of honesty, then it ought to pass this bill at once. Capehart, Goodnight, Meredith, W a.dsworth, There were only 17 votes against it in the Committee of the Catchings, Hamilton, Meyer, Wead.ock, Whole in the last Congress. The objections urged here to-day Cate, Hare1 Mitchell, Wheeler, Ala. are unfair and unworthy of those who m:ake them. They might Clancy, Harries, Montgomery, White, Clarke, Ala. Hatch, Moore, Whiting, have applied as against making the grant, but not against the Cobb, Ala. Haugen, Mutchler, Williams, N.C. adjustment of it. So far as my State is concarned, I regret that Cobb, Mo. Hayes, Iowa. Newberry, Williams, Dl. the grant was ever made. It has cost much more than the State Cogswell, Heard, Oates, Wilson, Wash. Covert, Henderson, Iowa O'Ferrall, Wise. can ever realize from it, but that is no reason why we should not Cox, N.Y. Herbert, O'Neill,Pa. provide for an honest, fair, and speedy settlement of it. NAYS-71. Mr. BERGEN. Did it pass the last House? Amerman, Cheatham, Harmer, Richardson, Mr. McRAE. It did not. It was there considered in the Com­ Atkinson, Clover, Hemphill, Rife, mittee of the Whole; considered during the morning hour, and Bacon, Coburn, Holman, Shively, Beltzhoover, Cox, Tenn. Hopkins, TIL Simpson, talked to death. Bentley, Craig, Pa. Houk, Ohio Sperry, Mr. BERGEN. Yes. Bergen, Crosby, Johnson,Ohio Stackhouse, Mr. McRAE. A vote was had uponitin the committee by tel­ Boutelle, Cummings, Johnstone, S. C. Steward, Ill. Bowers, Curtis, Kilgore, Stout, lers in the Fiftieth Congress, and only 17 voted against it; but Bretz, Dalzell, Kribps, Taylor, E. B. we were not able to get a vote in the House within the hour and Broderick, Daniell, Lapham, VanHorn, so it went over. Brookshire, Davis, Lawson, Ga. Walker, Brosius, De Forest, Little, Warner, Mr. BERGEN. Yes. Buchanan, N.J. Dickerson, Martin, Wat.son, Mr. McRAE. This, Mr. Speaker, is a very serious matter to Buchanan, Va . Elliott, McKinney, Wheeler, Mich. many settlers as well as to several States; it is to determine Bunn, Enloe, McMillin, Wike, Bunting, Gantz, O'Neil, Mass. Williams, Mass. whether the homes they have acquired from this great Govern­ Burrows, Greenleaf, Page, R.I. Youmans. ment shall be lost to them by bad faith on the part of Congress. Can Busey, Griswold, Patton, . o· this or any American Congress refuse a measure so fair and so Caruth, Grout, Payne, honest? Gentlemen say that no settlers have been evicted. The Causey, Hallowell, Raines, records of the CJurts and the petitions of the purchasers contra­ NOT VOTING-140. dict them. There is not a public-land State in this Union where Abbott, Campbell, Fitch, Kem, Alderson, Castle, Flick, Ketcham, there are not ocores of such cases. Others will arise just as Andrew, Chapin, Fyan, Lagan. errors are made as th3y will so arise unless there is a limitation. Arnold, Chipman, Geissenhainer, Lawson,Va. To prejudice members against this bill it is said that it will Babbitt, Clark, Wyo. Gillespie, Layton, Bankhead, Cocla:an, Gorman, Lester, Va.. cost a large sum of money, stated all the way from one to eio-hty Bartine, Compton, Grady, Lester, Ga. million dollars. I do not believe it; but if it is true what do~s it Belden, Coolidge, Hall, Lind, imply on thepartofthe Government and the Interior Department Belknap, Ooombs, • Halvorson, Livingston, Bingham, Cooper, Harter, Lockwood, charged with the adjustment of the original grant? It means, Mr. Blanchard, Cowles, Haynes, Ohio Loud, Speaker, that they have made erroneous sales aggregating those Boatner, Crain, Tex. Henderson, N. C. Magner, sums, and that the Government has that large sum of money Branch, Cutting, Henderson, Ill. Mansur, Brawley, Dingley, Hitt, McClellan, that it is not entitled to and will not return it. That is what Breckinridge, Ark. Dixon, Hoar, McDonald, you in effect say when you make such reckless statements, be­ Brown, Doan, Hopkins, Pa. McGann, cause no provision is made for the payment for any land except Brunner, Donovan, ' Houk, Tenn. McKaig, Bryan, Dungan, Hu1f, Miller, swamp lands that have been erroneously sold as dry lands. It Bynum, Dunphy, Johnson, Ind. Milliken, implies incompetency if not dishonesty to the officers of the Gov- Cadmus, Enochs, Jones, Morse,

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Moses, Quackenbush, Smith, Townsend, Mr. NORTON with Mr. POWERS, for two weeks, from the 12th Norton, Randall, Snodgrass, Tracey, O'Donnell, Ray, Snow, Turner, instant. Otis Rayner, Springer, Turpin, Mr. SNODGRASS with Mr. HOUK of Tennes ee, from April 6 Outhwaite, Reed, Stahlnecker, Warwick, to April 21 inclusive. Page, Md. Reilly, Stephenson, Washington, Parrett, Reyburn, Stevens, Waugh, Mr. WILLIAMS with Mr. ENOCHS, on all political questions Pattison, Ohio Robertson, La. Stone, C. W. . Wever, except the election contest case from ~ew York. Patterson, Tenn. Robinson, Pa. Stone, W. A. Willcox, Mr. WAUGH. Mr. Speaker, I believe that my pair is limited . Pearson, Rockwell, Storer, Wilson,Ky. 'Peel, Rusk, Stump, Wilson, Mo. to political questions, but in order that there may be no mistake Pierce, Russell, Taylor, IlL Wilson W.Va. I withdraw my vote. Post. Sanford, Taylor, Tenn. Winn, The SPEAKER. Upon this question the yeas are 112 and the Powers, Scull, Taylor,J.D. Wolverton, Price, Shell, • Taylor, V. A. Wright. nays are 7 7. Two-thirds not having voted in favor of the bill it fails to pass. - · Mr. DINGLEY. Mr. Speaker, I voted to make a quorum, but ORDER OF BUSINESS. if there is a quorum without my vote I desire to withdraw it, being paired. Mr . HERBERT. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House resolve The SPEAKER. There is a quorum. itself into Committee of the Whole House on the state of the · Mr. STOUT. Mr. Speaker~ I should like to vote. Union for the further consideration of general appropriation The SPEAKER. Was the gentleman in the Hall of the bills. House and listening for his name when the roll was called? The motion was agreed to. 1\!( .n r. STOUT . y es, su•.· The House accordingly· resolvedh · itself into Committee of the Mr. STOUT'S vote was recorded. Whole, Mr. SHIVELY m thee a1r. Mr. O'FERRALL. Mr. Speaker, I desire to have my vote re- The CHAIRMAN. The House is now in Committee of the corded. I was in the Hall when my name was called, but my at- Whole for the further consideration ol the bill (H. R. 7093) mak- tention was diverted at the time. ing appropriati{)n for the Navy. Mr. O'FERRALL'S vote was recorded. Mr. HERBERT. Mr. Chairman, I yield forty minutes of the Mr. KILGORE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that time under my control to my colleague on the committee, the my colleague, Judga ABBOTT, be excused on account of sickness. gentleman from South Carolina [Mr. ELLIOTT]. There was no objection, and it was so ordered. [Mr. ELLIOTT withholds his remarks fo r revision. See Ap- The following-named members were announced as paired until pendix.] f ·ther notice: ir. WHITE. Mr. Chairman, I have sat here in this House . Mr. SPRINGER with Mr. REED. since the beginning of the session and have listened, but until Mr. PENDLETON with Mr. SMITH of Illinois. we took 1;1p this naval appropriation bill have listened in vain Mr. RAYNES of Ohio with Mr. SCULL. for a voice bold enough to be raised in O})position to the war Mr. BRYAN with Mr. O'DONNELL. policy which at the present time so conspicuously perv-ades every Mr. BROWN with Mr. RUSSELL. department of this Government. Mr. BANKHEAD with Mr. MILLIKEN. -I must confess that it affords me infinite gratification to learn Mr. ROBERTSON of Louisiana with Mr. RoBINSON of Pennsyl- that I am not the only member upon this floor who holds to the vania. conviction t.hat civilized man the, world over has outlived the Mr. STAHLNECKER with Mr. CHEATHAM. period in his history when war can be said or held to be eithe1· Mr. PEARSON with Mr. JOSEPH D. TAYLOR. necessary or useiul. But if I were alone, and even if I were to Mr. OUTHWAITE with Mr. CUTTING. be vigorously condemned in advance~ I should not hesitate in the Mr. LoCKWOOD with Mr. QUACKENBUSH. least in entering my most earnest protest against the prevailing Mr. MosES with Mr. CLARK of Wyoming. · delusion that the honor ol the Government and the dignity of Mr. GEISSENHAINER with Mr. WRIGHT. our people can be mailltained only by building ponderous war Mr. ALDERSON with Mr. DOLLIVER. vessels equipped with cannon 40 feet long, capable of throwing ·Mr. STEVENS with Mr. RANDALL. enormous masses of metal from 10 to 15 miles. Mr. PARRETT with Mr. WAUGH. · In protesting against this policy and voting against the propo- Mr. LIVINGSTON with Mr. DINGLEY. sition of the Naval Committee to enlarge our naval establish- Mr. WINN with Mr. MORSE. ment by building an additional m·uiser to cost nearly $4,000,000 .. !... f Mr. CAMPBELL with Mr. WILSON of Kentucky. I am not actuated by the slightest trace of anytreasqnablemotive Mn. HARTER with Mr. BOWERS. or the least unfriendliness towards American institutions. On Mr. TURNER with Mr. BARTINE. . the contrary, I shall vote against this increase of our naval Mr. BRECKINRIDGE of Arkansas with Mr. COGSWELL. . strength because of my intense conviction that liberty in this Mr. ARNOLD with Mr. TAYLOR of illinois. country can best be maintained and our institutions can best be Mr. PAGE of Maryland with Mr. RAY. perpetuated by abandoning the perilous war preparations urged Mr. BLANCHARD with Mr. HULL. by the committee and inspired by the Administration, and in- Mr. COOPER with Mr. O'NEILL of Pennsylvania. augurating a national policy more in harmony with the spirit of Mr. WARWICK with Mr. SANFORD. the age. Mr. WILLCOX with Mr. HUFF. When you have built this modern navy of which we hear so Mr. IllLL with Mr. TOWNSEND, until further notice, except much at an expenditure of three or four hundred million dollars on free coinage. · what do you intend to do with it? Upon. what nation do you in- Mr. MANSUR with Mr. TAYLOR of Tennessee, from April 2 tend to make war? Whose commerce will you sweep f1·om the until further notice, not to be changed in the absence of either. ocean? Wher~ are the cities you are going to demolish? We Mr. TURPIN with Mr. HOOKER of New York, including elec- certainly shall not need a navy wherewith to subjugate our own tion case, until further notice, except on silver question. people. And is it not true that a firm determination to treat all Mr. PIERCE with Mr. LINn until further notice; also the Bland others with absolute justice and fairness is the most efficient pro­ bill and all questions connected therewith; this pair not trans- tection a nation can call to its aid? o. ferable. To prepare for war is in many instances to invite it. When he The following for this day: has gone through a course of training, when he has hardened his Mr. COMPTON with Mr. FLICK. muscles, the pugilist is naturally anxious to enter the ring. It Mr. ABBOTT with Mr. HENDERSON of Illinois. has been stated during this debate that our Navy saved us from Mr. WASlllNGTON with Mr. STEPHENSON. awar with Chile; the historic truth of that affair is that if it had Mr. HENDERSON of North Carolina with Mr. DOAN. not b~en for the indiscreet conduct of a part of our Navy, theoc- Mr. BRAWLEY with Mr. BINGHAM. casion for a controversy would not even have arisen, much less Mr. RUSK with Mr. William A. STO:t·rE. any cause for war. Mr. BRUNNER with Mr. HITT. I am not antagonizing this measure because, being a Demo- Mr . LAGAN with Mr. HOPKINS of Pennsylvania. crat, I might be expected to be willing to help discredit the Mr. BOATNER with Mr. STOR~. policyofaRepublicanAdministration. I well know a Democratic Mr. ;?RICE with· Mr. BELDEN. committee has brought this bill into the House~ and I well re- Mr. CRAIN of Texas with Mr. BELKNAP. member that a Democratic Administration, wh10h I did my nt- Mr. CADMUS with Mr. POST. most to help place in power, inaugurated the utterly inexcusable Mr. DUNPHY with Mr. KETCHAM, until Monday next. policy of building this modern navy. Tb e following for one week: I protest against the policy outlined in this appropriation bill M1·. WOLVERTON with Mr. REYBURN. in the name of our common humanity, in the name of that su- MP. HoAR with Mr. BRosrus. perior typ ~ of civilization which the closing years of the nine- Mr . JONES with Mr. HERMANN, for one week, commencing teenth century are so happily developing-a civilization depend-

April 11. ing for its success not upon the cruel methods of the barbarian1 1892. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE. 3391 not upon the explosive quality of gunpowder and ~ynamite, not Mr. Chairman, a thousand· influences} seen and unseen, known upon the conflagration of cities nor the annihilation or mutilation and unknown, are at work getting ready the material out of of multitudes of excited men, but upon the common sense of the which will finally be constructed the emancipation proclamation citizen, upon a constantly growing sense of right and wrong~ upon that will release a long-suffering world from the crushing weight the rapidly developing intelligence of the peopl&--a civilization of militarism. In the short time allotted me I am precluded that eloquently appeals to the nobler traits of our natm.·e, to our from going into details. I will call the attention of the House moral and intellectual qualities. to but two of these influences. It is true they are antagonistic Mr. Chairman, I believe a time comes in the history of every in their character or nature and are working from opposite direc­ nation when immortal renown can be garnered by boldly depart­ tions, but are, nevertheless, working in entire harmony to ac­ ing from antiquated methods and untenable ideas. Such a time complish the one happy result, namely, to eliminate war from has now come to the people of these United States. Instead of con­ our civilization. tinuing the clumsy, cruel, and expensive agencies which an obedi­ The one influence Ol' force is to be found in the intense con~ ence to the merciless law which requires" an eye for an eye and vietion which is forcing itself onto the minds of all thinking a tooth for a tooth " makes necessary we should yield to the new, men and women the world over, that war is altogether too bar­ the better inspiration of doing "unto others as we would have barous a method to be any longer employed by any Christian t~em do unto us." Instead of preparing for war, of which there nation in the settlement of any sort of controversy~the con­ is not the slightest prospect anywhere, we should with one ac­ viction that we have reached that period in the development of cord become the fervent advocates of universal peace and per­ a higher and a nobler type of civilized life when war c.an be no sistently urge upon other nations a general and a permanent dis­ longer r ecognized as one oi the determining factors of this su­ armament. And, Mr. Chairman, is it not true that) in spite of all perior civilization. that is done to the contrary, modern thought is adjusting itself The other force or influence lies in the vast amount of knowl­ to this channel? edge we possess, and to which we are constantly adding, our You may set here in this House and appropriate all the public knowledge of chemistry and mechanics, enabling us to compound money you can get your hands upon, build all the great battle explosives and to construct weapons, the killing power of which. possible, and justify your action with ''burning eloquence is so terrible as not only to intimidate the raw recruit but to send and faultless rhetoric;" other powers throughout the world may consternation to the heart of the bravest and th~ best discip­ dothe same, but let me tell you, my Democratic brethren, while lined army that can be mobilized and brought upon the gory this is being done, while you are passing these bills, the opinion, field. the judgment of the world is crystallizing, steadily but irresist­ You, my Democratic friends~ who intend to vote for thls ap­ ibly, against the policy you are pursuing, crystallizing against propriation ought to remember that the principal armies of the the delusion that the progressive, marvelous civilization we are world are now equipped with a weapon the destructiveness of so rapidly developing can be successfully defended only with the which is so nearly perfect that it wili be possible only in case of sword and the torch. another enCO\Ulter for a small frnction of the contestants to es­ Mr. Chairman, I am utterly unable to agree with the gentle­ cap3 annihilation. One more wru·, possibly on!Y one more bat­ meu who have made such eloquent pleas for the enlargement of tle, and the destruction of human life will ba so disgustingly our Navy. It seems to me these gentlemen fail to take into ac­ bloody and murderous that mankind will be drive.n to a sober count the supremely important fact that the world is rapidly contemplation of the awful sp eota.cle ~will be driven to the con~ growing out of the conditions which in the past made war justi­ elusion that the last vestige of the militant type that exists fiable, or if not justifiable, at least in some measure excusable. among us must ba forever and entirely suppressed. [Applause.] The ''extenuating circumstances " (as lawyers term it) which Now, Mr. Chairman, when we have once re.ached that point., may be cited to uphold war as it has been practiced in the past, which I am persuaded is not in the very distant future, then have lost their force and standing, and can not justly be used iu there will develop among us a purely untPammeled, industrial our day as pretexts and excuses for the purpose of perpetuating type. Men and women will grow up into better and purer beings, a condition of things altogether out of harmony with the pro­ being con trolled more by a sense of justice and less by the. de­ g:~;·essive spirit of the age. mands of a selfish nature, and the nations of the eap;th will con­ Something over a century ago our forefathers made the bold form their conduct to a higher and .a ,nobler s.tandaro. declaration that all men were created equal and that government Mr. Chairman, I believe the people of this country have it in by the people was the natural right of communities. This decla­ their power so to shape their conduct in their intercourse with ration startled the world, and it was both sneered at and resisted. foreign nations, I believe the DemoOI'atic party, being the ex­ But have we not demonstrated its truth with overwhelming sue~ ponent of public opinion} has it in its power to enact such legis­ cess? The people of this country are to-day better prepared to lation in this free Republic so' as to hasten the advent of that make another bold move than our ancestors were for the task blessed period Qf an eternal: unbroken peace of which prophets which they undertook. have so confidently prophesied , of which philosophers have so Mr. Chairman, I believe the times are ready for the aggL"es­ fondly speculated, and of which poets have so sweetly sung. [Ap­ sive display of moral heroism. I believe mankind has reached plause.] that point in the unfolding of a superior civilization when the Mr. Chairman, I have prepared a resolution, which I will pre­ people of this country should step boldly to the front, courage­ sent to the House, and ask unanimous consent for its considera­ ously and aggressively champion the principles and the doc­ tion, sometime in the near future, perhaps offe:r it in the shape trines of universal peace, and urge with zeal and devotion the of an amendment to the appropriation bill for the World's Fair, substitution of the peaceable, humane mode of arbitration for and I will conclude my -remru·ks by reading it and calling the at· the confessedly barbarous methods of war. If we fail to lay hold of tention of the House and the country to the object aimed at. this opportunity to signalize our devotion to a system of mm·a.l Wbe:reas war has always been recognized as t hE- most calamitous evil with ethics fundamentally correct and thus willfully rejec~ the r e­ which a nation ctl.n be stricken; and ward which is so temptingly offered, our folly will be inexplica­ Whereas the trend of modern thought and the marvelous spread of intel­ ligence among the masses of the peol)le h ave combined to develop concHtions ble to our children and a source of regret to all our posterity. in our civilization which render w a.r less frequent than fol'merly and gives Whatever else may or may not happen one thing is inevitable, encouragement to the thought, that by taking a.dvanta~e of these conditions fate has decreed it, namely, our civilization is developing con­ war may, in the future, be altogether averted and civilized man the world over r eleased from the crushing w eight imposed by enormous military and ditions which, in the nearfuture will, nay must} emap.cipate civ­ naval establishments; therefore ilized man ever,Ywhere from the unnatural, the unjust, the. dam­ Be i t ?'esolved by the Hot~se of R epresentative (the &nate concurring), 1. That nable servitude of the militant type. it is the duty of the people of the United States in the fulfillment of their I true mission to assume the leadership among the nations of the earth in Mr. Chairman, believe the civilized nations of the earth are the endeavor to bring about such mutual international compacts as will set,. '· :p.ow standing upon the very border of a mighty change; I be­ tle international controversies through the humane and peaceful mode of lieve we are standing at the very door leading to a new era, and, arbitration. 2. To give speed and efllcacy to this movement the President of the United though this door may as yet appear to be closed, I believe all States is authorized and directed to invite in an especial manner, the na­ that is necessary is that it be boldly pushed open, and there will tions of the earth to send delegates to an international arbitration congress be revealed to us a new land of promise, a new and a better time, to beheld during the summer of 1893, in the city of C.hicago. when the nations of the earth will be bold enough and wise 3. The President is further authorized and directed to cause it to be 1.-no..,vn by the nations thus invited that this Co~ess will be considered and treated enough to r .3pudiate antiquated methods and cut loose from the by the Gove..'"Ilment and people of the Urn ted Stat-es as ol paramount impor­ p.arbarisms and the superstitions to which we have so long and tance. It is to be accorded first rank among all the congresses which are to be held during the Columbian Exposition y ear, the quest ion of whieh it is to so tenaciously clung. A time when war, with its long list of treat and for which it is expected to find a practical solution, affecting mol'e wretched evils will be hea1·d of no more; a time when an ap-peal vitally than any other the enduring character and glory of OUI' future civili­ to our enligh tened reason inst-ead of to the sword, an appeal to zation. 4. The sum of-is hereby appropriated to pay the expen ses connected the calm judgment of men instead of to their inflamed passions, with and growing out of this congress, and to provide for the hospit able en­ an appeal to hard, common sense instead of to false pride, will tept ai~.ent of the foreign delegates who m ay at t end by authority of t heir have the force that will suffice to settle national questions as respecttve government s. well as international misunderstanding-s and controversies. And now, my Democratic bretlu·en, in conclu.sion, let me ap-

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.peal to you to forsake the policy that binds us to a dark and ful prosecution in case it shall occur; but to what extent is a gloomy past, to a barbarous and a bloody history, and embrace a navy necessary to answer this purpose? Armed, fast-sailing newer, a better gospel, a nobler inspiration that will link us to a , such as are provided for in this adopted policy for the brighter, a happier, a more glorious future. [Applause.] rehabilitation of theNavy, and such as are here contemplated, are [Mr. MARTIN withholds his remarks for revision. See Ap­ not constructed to fight battles, but only to destroy an enemy's commerce. As such an agency their necessjty and efficiency can pendix.] not be successfully disputed. We learned this expensive lesson Mr. HOLMAN. Mr. Chairman, I yield the residue of my time by the cruise of the Alabama, and at an almost inestimable cost to the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. HoUK]. I have only three by the nearly total destruction of tlie American commercial ma­ minutes remaining; and inasmuch as the gentleman has not ad­ rine during the late war; but is not the American Navy not already dressed the House during the present Congress, I ask unanimous supplied with a sufficient number of such cruisers, including those consent that he be allowed fifteen minutes. whose construction is already provided for, to respond to this The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Indiana [Mr. HOL­ need in the event of war? · MAN] asks unanimous consent that the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Besides, gentlemen,- it must be considered that in this ad­ HoUK] be permitted to proceed for fifteen minutes. Is there vanced age wars, except such as arise from the resentment or objection? ~he Chair hears none. ambition of dynasties or from monarchical and despotic govern­ Mr. HOUK of Ohio. Mr. Chairman, I do not propose to enter ments seeking territorial aggrandizement or increased power, .into a very lengthy discussion of the questions involved in this are not likely to occur; ana in this connection I may call the at­ bill. For the sake of brevity I shall present in succinct form in tention of the House to the fact that the most notable illustra­ the short time allowed me the views I entertain, and trust that tion in modern history of this truth was furnished by the Geneva the committee will accord me its attention for the short time arbitration between the United States and Great Britain in 1873. that I propose to occupy the floor. The question presented to the No more serious .or well-grounded cause of war can perhaps committee in this discussion involves three different proposi­ ever exist between this and any foreign government, than that tions: which existed when negotiations were opened with England that First. The increase of the naval establishment by the con­ led to the Geneva arbitration. The universal heart of this great struction of one 8,0oo-ton armored at a cost of $3,500,000. people burned with a sense of insult, wrong, and resentment. The Second. An increase of the Navy by the construction of two hereditary enmity to England was fully aroused, and our people sea-going line of battle ships at a cost of $4,000,000 each, and ten would unanimously have embraced with alacrity the grim al­ boats at a cost of $120,000 each. ternative of a war with England. Our Navy as compared with Third. A proposition to strike out any proposition whatever hers at that time was as a mere pigmy in comparison with a for the increase of the Navy. giant. Yet what do gentlemen who attribute so mighty an in­ As I have not been in full accord with either of these proposi­ fluence to the existence of a powerful navy as a preventive o1 tions I did not feel entirely at liberty to solicit time from either war suppose were the considerations that induced Great Britain of the gentlemen allowed .by agreement to control the debate to to agree to that arbitration? express my views. I therefore now beg the indulgence of the My answeris, :first, thatitwasthemysterious butall-prevailing House to state, through the courtesy of the gentleman from and all-powerful influence of the spirit of modern civilization,· Indiana [Mr. HOLMANJ, and with all practical brevity, the rea­ which regards war as a relic of barbarism and a crime against sons that will control my vote. humanity, unless all other means of adjustment have failed. I will say in the first place that the proposition that most com­ Second. Because England well knew that however great might mends itself to my judgment is one not yet before the commit­ or should have been the advantages gained by her in the begin­ tee; it is the construction of a sufficient number of torpedo boats, ning of a war with the United States, the mighty resources say from twelve to twenty, to answer the necessities of coast de­ of this people, wielded with an intelligence and pertinacity un­ fense, a sufficient number to be placed upon the Great Lakes. surpassed and a courage a!ld fortitude absolutely inexhaustible, And I will say further in this connection, that I am in favor of would in the end have triumphantly vindicated our cause. the maintenance of an adequate and practicable naval power, in Third. Because she well knew, as she always must know, that accordance with all existing conditions both here and abroad. a war with the United States must necessarily result to her in I freely concede to the very able and diligent Committee on incalculable damage, the loss of a large part of her territory, and Naval Affairs all that can be claimed for their superior knowl­ possibly impair the stability of her national existence. edge of existing circumstances. I am aware, too, of the inau­ It is not, therefore, as it seems to me, in this age of the world­ guration of a definite policy in 1883 for the rehabilitation of the wise American statesmanship, and it is not just to the industrial , and that the proposition of the committee classes of our people to burden them with aheavyand contingent is in the line of that policy. expenditure, through many years of certain peace, simply to be But it is well known to Congress and the 3ountry that provi­ ready for the contingency of an improbable war. sion has already been made by law for the construction of twenty­ But the second proposition embraced in the amendment pro­ five or more war ships and cruisers than we now have (not in­ posed by the gentleman from Maine [Mr. BOUTELLE] only seems to cluding torpedo boats), and which will cost when completed not me an aggravation of the evils to which I have adverted. This less than $40,000,000. is simply to emulate the folly and false pride of foreign monarch­ The important question here arises whether under existing ical powers, by building up an American Navy to rival theirs in conditions here and abroad this is not a sufficient naval force to vain splendor and in magnitude. answer fully the necessities of the country. The size of the navies of England, France, Russia, Italy, Aus­ It is not claimed that an increased naval power is necessary, tria, and Spain is cited to discredit ours; as though we were on except in the contingencyofwar, althoughgreatforceisascribed dress parade before the world in a competitive show, and were to it as a preventive influence. Of course in time of peace our being put to shame bythe poverty of ourdisplay. Sir, although coastwise foreign and lake commerce is exposed to no dangers the navy of Italy is almost beyond comparison superior to ours, except those of the elements. That flagwhichhangsbehind the and embraces two of the most formidable battle ships afloat, with Speaker's chair is its complete protection everywhere on the perhaps the exception of the Thunderer in the British navy, I face of the earth, from all intrusion and interference. scarcely think anyone even in the most threatening hour of the Any American bottom over which that flag floats, inanywater recent unpleasantness with that power apprehended that in case tbroughout the world, is in construction of international law, a of war that Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Charles­ portion of the soil of this ~public; and is far more secure than ton, Savannah, or New Orleans would have been bombarded or it would be if protected by triple steel plates and any number of laid under contribution, or that there would have been the guns without it. slightest doubt of the final result of the conflict. That flag is the recognized symbol of the power of the United And here let me say, in regard to this matter of bombardment States, with its population of 65,000,000, and its material resources and contribution to which our coast cities are said to b3 exposed, amounting to $64,000,000,000worthof property; and it is a known in the first place, such danger can not be warded off by fast-sail­ fact, recognized of all men, that if any American citizen over ing cruisers. or line-of-battle ships, but only by torpedo boats, whom that flag lawfully floats, anywhere on the face of the.broad rams, and monitors: And in the second place, does not every earth, receives an injury in his rights ofperson or property, the sane man know that in the event of any such injuries inflicted on entire power and r esources of this Government are pledged to our seaboard or lake cities in the final settlement of the terms compel due atonement. of peace, every dollar of such damage would be exacted to be re­ All mankind know this, and it needs no American line-of-bat­ paid with a penalty by the offending power. Nobody supposes tle ships or armored cruisers stationed anywhere to emphasize for a moment that this country would ever be content with any­ the fact. thing different than full and ample reparation for the injury in­ The use of a navy is therefore only necessarY in time .of war; flicted upon us under such circumstances by any power. although it is claimed, and with much force, that its existence is Mr. BROOKSHIRE. Will the gentleman allow me to inter­ &lso neceRsary not only to prevent war, but to insure its success- rupt him to suggest that 40 per cent of the lands of the British - 1892. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 3393

Empire are in Canada; and I shou1d not think that they would be test, but one of whom was wounded, besides the gallant Worden, likely to jeopardize the ownership of that 40 per cent of their so mighty was its results tliat the London Tlmes, when the news lands in order to have some fun bombarding us. reached England, the next day used the following language: Mr. HOUK of Ohio. I thank the gentleman very much for the Whereas we had available tor immediate purpose one hundred and forty­ suggestion. nine first-class war ships, we have now two, those two beU:.~ the Warl'ior And now I wish to say a word in regard to the point made by and her sister ironclad. There is not now a ship in the Engush navy apart from these two that it would not be madness to trust to an engagement with the distinguished gentleman from Indiana [Mr. HOLMAN] of re­ that little . - liance upon the resources, genius, and warlike energy of our peo­ ple as a complete protection in the sudden emergency of war. The war ships of all the maritime powers of the world, that The gentleman's personal recollection will bear testimony of the had been constructed at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars, truth of what I am about to say. It is this: That the little fight­ were regarded as obsolete for war purposes, and, as I have said, a ing device called the Monitor, which entirely revolutionized new and different method of construction has come into universal naval architecture and throughout the world, was use. constructed in an unequipped open yard on the shores of the East Now I ask, in the face of such a lesson in an age thatdevelops River at Brooklyn, and was made reany to proceed on her im­ almost daily the most startling discoveries and utilization of mortal but brief cruise within the limit of a few months. hitherto unknown forces, whether in the midst- of these inven­ That Httle floating engine of war, almost level with the waves: tive activities it is wise statesmanship to continue the expendi­ made all the grand wooden battle ships that constituted the ture of uncounted millions, raised from taxes on the people, to strength of all the navies of the world in 1862 as obsolete as the increase a naval power for which there will be no actual use for triremes of Phrenicia and Greece or the galleys of Rome that won an indefinite time, and which may J:Ossibly be renderedobsolete for Octavius the dominion of the world in the Gulf of Actium, or by future discoveries. the statelier vessels of the Turks and of Venice in the fourteenth And whilst I say this, I am still willing .to make conces3ions to and fifteenth centuries. the prevailing custom of nations. I am not averse wholly to the Why-, sir, whilst we have excelled all people that have pre­ rehabilitation of the Navy, but I do not want to see the process ceded us in material, intellectual, and industrial development,_ already accomplished go on indefinitively. It is a luxury alike we have shown in sudden emergency all the essential chara~ter­ expensive and unnecessary. Nor am I indifferent to the appre­ istics that constitute the most warlike people of the world. hension naturally enough felt by our fellow-citizens of an ex- We suffered an expensive experiment to demonstrate this fact; posed seaboard. · but it has been of inestimable value to our people; and not the I will gladly vote for as many torpedo boats or devices in that least of its advantages has been that it has exempted us meas­ line as may ba deemed necessary for the most complete seacoast urably, at least, from the necessity of taxing our people to main­ defense, for in view of the changes in the method of naval at­ tain expensive and powerful military establishments. tack and ship construction it is apparent that forts for sea force The cruiser Alabama atoned for the gigantic injuries inflicted defense are not entirely sufficient. upon American commerce in her brief cruise, by furnishing at These inexpensive structures, so easy to maintain and so im­ its close an object lesson to the onlooking nations of the world of mediately available for effective service, are a far better reli­ American warlike energy and prowess on that fair midday of ance in a time of threatened danger than line-of-battle ships. June, 1864, in her conflict with the Kearsarge and by heroically And now, but a word in conclUsion. going to the bottom in the friendly waters of the English Chan­ We are at the opening of a new era, and soon to begin a new nel. It was fitting that as an English shipyard had given her century. Organized force in armies and navies as a factor ill birth, in an English sea she should have found her grave. --· modern progress, is being superseded by the subtler but far more That object lesson was not lost upon the British Government powerful forces developed under the inspiration of human ge­ nor upon any of the naval powers of Europe. That one hours nius and intellect. The burdens imposed upon productive labor terrific duel between those two celebrated American cruisers by following the examples of nations that have not yet emerged was a D;l.Ore effective and in its result a more lasti!lg display of from the oppressive traditions of feudalism must be lifted from the warlike qualities of our people, than all the battle ships and the shoulders of the people. It is for the American people to cruisers we can ever put afloat in dress parade before the world. make, not to follow, examples in the march of human progress And now I wish to say, that so radical has been the revolution to batter conditions. in naval warfare and naval architecture that the real decisive We have no occasion to be afraid of war. Our strength is our battles of the future on the sea are not to be fought by brave and s:curity. Our resources, energy, and courage, our enterprise, picturesque commanders and gallant tars, but are to be contested intelligence, and over all an enlightened sense of justice and by grim machinery, worked, it is true, by brain and brawn, and right, all combine to put the world under bonds to keep the are to be decided by dynamite and steel. peac3 towards the United States. Let us have peace. Take for illustration the two great decisive naval conflicts, the During the delivery of the foragoing remarks, the time hav­ results of which were of controlling influence in the wars of ing expired, which they were a part. The battle of Trafalgar, fought in the Mr. PATTERSON of Tennessee said: Mr. Chairman, I ask beginning of this century between the allied fleets of France and unanimous consent that the gentleman from Ohio be permitted Spain on the one side and that of England on the other, and that to conclude his ramarks. between the Monitor and Merrima~ at Hampton Roads sixty Mr. H~RBERT. I should like very much, if p03sible, tocon- years afterward. clude the consideration of this bill to-day. · The first was fought between fleets of some three-scGre wooden Mr. HOUK of Ohio. I shall not occupy much additional time. men-of-war, grand battle ships, with guns ranged in broadsides Mr. PATTERSON of Tennessee. I ask that the gentleman be firing solid shot, and manned by thousands of fighting sailors. allowed to conclude his r amarks. England's greatest hero, Lord Nelson, stood upon his quarter­ There was no objection. deck upon the VictoryJ and thence in full view of a thousand Mr. BUTLER. I also ask unanimous consent that the com­ enemies and sharpshooters, from one of whom he received the mittee may keep still EO that we may hear what the gentleman bull-et that changed in his death the disasters of the French is saying. navy, commanded the twenty-six ships of the English fleet in The CHAIRMAN. The suggestion of the gentleman from that memorable battle, the result of which drove French power Iowa is entirely pertinent, and the Chair will endeavor to pre­ from the ocean, but left to be pursued upon the land a career of serve order upon the floor. continental conquest under Napoleon that shook the founda­ Mr. HOUK of Ohio then resum ::J d and concluded his remarks tions of every capital in Europe, culminating in the terrific disas­ as above. ter of Moscow and the retreat from Russia, followed by the Mr. BOUTELLE. Mr. Chairman, inasmuch as there has been catastrophe at Waterloo but three years afterwards. considerable indulgence permitted on the part of the committee The other battle was fought between. two unsightly ironclad in this discussion, I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman monsters, of different model and construction, lying flat upon the from New York [Mr. COVERT] may be permitted to address the bosom of the sea, operated by machinery incased in steel, no liv­ committee for ten minutes, not to come out of my time. ing foe on either craft in sight, the commander of the victor, the Mr. HOLMAN. And I ask unanimous consomt that the same .. gallant W_orden being cooped up in a steel-clad square cage of p1·ivilege be extended to the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. BUTLER]. iron logs, on the foredeck, only large enough to give st£Lnding The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the room for three men, and thence directed the cyclopean machinerv gentleman from Maine and the gentleman from Indiana? that after successive hours of terrific pounding from but two im­ There was no objection. mense guns, throwing 180-pound solid shot,droveherformidable Mr. COVERT. Mr. Chairman, I desire first to acknowledge foe discomfited from the field of battle; and yet it has been truly the courtesy of the gentleman from Maine [Mr . B :::>uT'ELLE], at said that the then naval supremacy of England vanished in the whose request I am permitted to occupy the floor. smoke of that fight; and although less than twenty-four men con­ The gentleman from Georgia [}!fr. WATSON] in speaking upon stituted the crew that fought the Monitorin this memorable con- tbis proposition has evoked an echo of the so-called Holman XXIII-213 3394 CONGRESSIONAL RECQRD-HOUSE. APRIL 18,

resolution introduced and -passed at an early stage of the session, tion, or from whatever other cause, are local only, and the mat­ committing this House to the rejection of all appropriations ter is foreign to this discussion. I shall join most heartily and whatever except such as might be needed for the support of the earnestly with the eloquent gentleman from Georgia in the ad­ various governmental departments. I hadhoped wemighthear vocacy of all measures which shall tend to cure these conditions nomore of this resolution or of the policy it sought to enforce. and to prevent their recurrence. Want and pestilence are not I regarded this declaration at the time of its adoption as an the experiences in any large measure of the people of this land empty statement, "full of sound and signifying nothing." There to-day, but the reverse of these conditions exi ts in almost every were some desks on the Democratic side of this Chamber to ection of the Republic. Heaven's sunshine has streamed down I which the whiplash of the gentleman from Indiana could not upon our soil. Heavens dews have moistened it. An abundant J'each; and my own was of this number. I for one did not vote return has followed, and it is not the time to take despondent for the resolution. There was no utility in the empty declara­ views of the conditions that surround us. tion it embodied; there was absolute wrong in a fQrmal declara­ But the picture of distress as outlined by the gentleman from tion in advance that negative action would be taken in legisla­ Georgia would be as nothing in comparison with the situation if tive proceedings, no matter what emergency might present it­ our defenseless seacoasts were ravaged by the iron ships of some self. Legislative boJies, like individuals, are judged not by foreign and possibly .inferior power. The gentleman from Ohio -empty prior declarations, but upon the work they perform. [Mr. HOUK], who preceded me, seeks to convey the impression I regarded the spirit of the resolution as a near and dangerous that because this country is strong and powerful in other re­ approach to a denial of the divine right of petition, a tyrannical spects there is no need for an increase of its naval force. The procedure which has overthrown government abroad before the argument is suggestive of a. giant throwing aside' his arms and birth of our own Republic. exposing himself reckle::sly to the lances of an army of inferior But this resolution and the declaration embodied in it, how­ men. ever strained they may be, are not of application here. The The time to prepare for war is the time of profoundest peace. amendment proposed by the gentleman from Maine [Mr. Bou­ The surest preventive of warfare is a perfect condition to meet TELLE] seeks to provide only. a fair and just appropriation for the it in the event of the dark war cloud lowering. Utopia does not support of a department, and a very important department, of the exist as yet in any part of the world. The millennia! day has not yet General Goverllment. ·dawned upon this or upon any other land. No man can tell when It occurs to me that the committee have been too conservative the passions or the ambitions of nations may evoke the spirit of in the preparatio"n of this bill. The idea of undue economy has warfare-nor when its dark cloud may arise over the horizon. been permitted to prevail, rather than a due consideration of It is our duty now, in the time of profoundest peace, to prepare the necessities of the occasion. We have before us the official like patriotic and like prudent men to meet any possible emer­ utterance of the Secretary of the Navy in this regard. In no gency that may arise. It is our duty to complete the work of uncertain terms he tells us that the amount carried by the pro­ building up our Navy and to make it worthy of the American posed amendment can be utilized at the present time, and that Republic. Let us take rank in this regard, to some extent at the work sou,g-ht to be accomplished by it is -not only proper but least, with the other potential nations of the world. necessary at this juncture. If there be one Department of the The question of party politics has no part in this discussion. Government whose official head commands in large degree the Arthur and Secretary Chandler, Cleveland and Secretary Whit­ confidence of the American people, that Department is the De­ ney, alike labored to strengthen and improve this arm of the Fed­ partment of the Navy. eral service. The present Secretary of the Navy may be relied I submit that due regard should be paid by the American Con­ upon to use the power of his high office wis3ly and well if the de­ gress to utterances coming thus directly from one whose knowl­ sired authority shall be given him by this Congress. edge of the needs of the Navy entitles those utterances to the Let American designers provide for the fashioning of Ameri­ utmost consideration and respect. I ask this House not to be de­ can war vessels, to be constructed by American mechanics. Let ceived by any wild idea of false economy in this regard. The a part of the present American policy be the perfection of an people of this land have too deep a love for the Republic to be adequate American Navy. Let the work go on, not to martial narrow in their views as to its proper support. National love music, but to the music of tb.e hammer ringing out in the dock­ and national pride combine in demanding that the Federal Leg­ yards of the American Government. Every stroke of every ham­ islature make adequate provision for the sufficient maintenance mer, every blow upon every anvil, will be an added signal of per­ of every department of the General Government. fect peace to the people of this land. [Loud applause.] The people may be trusted to resent any attempt to make im­ The CHAIRMAN. What is the further pleasure of the com­ proper provision in this regard. A wide difference exists be­ mittee? tween extravagance on one hand and miserable penuriousness on Mr. BOUTELLE. I understood that the committee gave per­ the other. An invisible telegraphy goes out among the people, mission to the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. BUTLER] to occupy the telling them what the needs of the Government are, and behind floor. the suggestions of the Secretary, looking to the proper rehabilita­ Mr. BUTLER. I do not wish to occupy my time now. I will tion of the Navy and enforcing these suggestions, are the de­ use it a little later. mands of the thoughtful and progressive people of this Republic. Mr. BOUTELLE. I shall object to this unless the gentleman In the last Congress, in addressing the House upon the ques­ does occupy the time now. That was the understanding. tion of the location of the forthcoming international exposition, I Mr. HOLMAN. The motion to strike out of course is the took occasion to say that the exposition would be incomplete with­ affirmative proposition, and we should not be compelled to now out a naval parade intheharborofNewYork; and that the navies use all the time we have. of Italy and Spain, the lands of the discoverer's birth and adoption, Mr. BOUTELLE. Well, but as I understand it, the gentle­ should be invited to participatei.n the ceremonial. In that con­ man from Indiana has had all his time. The Chair announced nection I gave to the House a detailed statement of the strength that he had occupied all his time. of the navies of Italy and Spain, relatively weak and inferior Mr. HOLMAN. Yes, but the committ-ee gave the gentleman powers. from Iowa [Mr. BUTLER] some time, and he does not wish to use It is sufficient for my present purpose to say that Italy has to~ it now. day a fleet of eighty-six armored ships, (more than double the Mr. BOUTELLE. Now, Mr.Chairman,thecommitteeextended num"Qer in the American Navy), and in addition over one hun­ its courtesy to the gentleman from New York [Mr. COVERT] at dred other war vessels, and that Spain has a navy more than my request. At the request of the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. double the size of our own. National pride demands that this HOLMAN] the committee extends the same favor and courtesy to land of ours should strengthen and build up its maritime power, the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. BUTLER], and I submit that he that it should rehabilitate its Navy, the protector of its com­ ought to occupy the time now, if a.t all. merce and the defender of its honor upon the high seas. Mr. HERBERT. I hope very much we will be able to get But not national pride alone makes this demand upon us as the through with this bill to-day. There has been a great deal of representatives of the American people. The preservation of debate already upon it. I do not desire to object to any gentle­ the safety of the Republic may be most seriously involved by a man beinghea.rd, but it does seem tome that we have had nearly failure to make adeg_uate provision for an efficient naval equip­ enough debate upon it, more than twice as much against the bill ment. as there has been in favor of it, and I have only reserved to my­ But gentlemen tell us that this Congress is pledged to economy, self thirty-seven or forty minutes in which to conclude the de­ seemingly forgetting that the truest economy consists in wise bate. I hope gentlemen will not ask any more time. I was out provision for averting disaster. We are told that our people are for a moment and did not hear what the request was. overburdened with taxation. Mr. BOUTELLE. The gentleman from Alabama [Me. HER­ The gentleman from Georgia [Mr. WATSON] has drawn a pa­ DERT] perhaps does not understand the situation. I asked unani­ thetic picture of the wants and necessities of the people in some mous consent of the committee awhile ago to permit the gentle­ sections of theSouthand West. '.rheseconditions,howeverthey man from New York [Mr. COVERT] to speak his time, not to come may have arisen, whether from overproduction or overprotec- out of the time divided between the three sides. The gentle-

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1892. OONG~ESSIONAL RECORD-HOU8E. '3395 man from Indiana [Mr. HoLMAN] thereupoB. requested that the monthseither·oi these establishments will be incondition to carry ~arne- courtesy be extended to the gentleman from Iowa. fMr. on extensive manufacture of armor in addition to that needed for BuTLERL and that wa-s done. I submit that-the gentleman from the ships now in course of construction. Iowa [Mr. BuTLER], to whom the courtesy was extended on those The amount of a.rm.OT' required for a battle ship like the three conditions, ought to occupy his time now. now building is 2,700 tons, but it should be borne in mind that Mr. HERBERT. I suppose he will do that. the armor for a battle ship is.not needed within eighteen months Mr. HOLMAN~ Oh, I do not think thatoughtto be required. after her construction is commenced. Both of the establish­ The motio:q is to strike out, and I think we should have the right ments named claim to be able to furnish at the l'ate of 400 tons, to close the debate· upon that proposition. or 800 tons total, after six months from the present- time. It The CHAIRMAN. The Chair- thinks this is scarcely a mat­ must be borne in mind that the casting of ingots and forging~ in ter that the Chair should be asked to ruleuoon. a new ccntract, should be don-e. sevecal months in advance of 'the Mr. BOUTELLE. The gentleman from ii:tdiana speaks about completion oi the old contracts, and that in orde1? to keep these the relative order of deba.te~ The gentleman had exhausted the establishments occupied it will be necessary to give new orders entire time accorded. to his portion of this debate, and the per­ before 1894 calendar· year. I present the following statement, lllission to another gentleman to occupy the floo.r was entirely furnished me by the Bureau of Ordnance, of theamountofarmor independent. It was a courtesy by the committee as a whole, plate made by the Bethlehem Company up to the 5th instant-: ·. and in justice to the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. HERBERT], THE' BETHLEHEM !RON COMPANY, .t!pril11J, 18fl2, the chairman o.f the committee, whose time is reserved-- Statement of the numufacture of armor plate up t.o .t!pn"'t 5, 1892. Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey. And it. being the third ex- tension the gentleman from Indiana has had. • Weight: Mr. BOUTELLE. And it being the third exte11sion the gen­ Ship-or purpose. Weight shipped or tleman from Indiana. [Mr. HoLMAN] has had, it seems to me ob­ as!orged. readyfor vious that I am justified in requesting that the time granted by shipment. the committee, outside of the ar1·angement, be occupied now ~ Po:rmds. PO'un!M, Mr. HERBERT. I hope thegentlemanfrom Maine [Mt·. Bou­ Terror__ ------·------·------_____ ------TELLE} will go on. Let us get through with this bille Cruisers.7 and 8 ------~Ws -----9,-970 Mr. BOUTELLE. I simp-ly desire to say that I shall object Projectile test plates. ______------257,763 139.173 Experimental test plates, 10! inches... _____ ------__ 1 101,949 51,682 to the extension unless the time is occupied now. Texas------___ _ 2291 115 36r 782 Mr. WIDTING. You are too late. Maine: The CHAIRMAN. The Chair hardly thinks the gentleman Bulkhead plates.______11(),500 ~709 from Maine [Mr. BouTELLE} can objec.t now~ There were no conditions attached at the time. Mo:i~Pa~ t-~-:~~::_~~~~-~=~-=~~===~======~==~==:=:: ·-·fi24;24i- l~; ~ Mr. BOUTELLE. Mr. Chairman, is it understood that the Amphitrite______~~lir~~~~-1_:_~·-~~~-~=~====-=~=-=-==-~===~===______===== 8~:96,132 ~ :==~=====------tim~ now remaining is to be divided between the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. HERBERT] and myself. Puritan ------48,200 ------TheCHAIRMAN. Thetimenowremaining,exceptthatwhich Total pounds ------=------____ , 3, 594, 686 851,500 has been extended to the gentleman frmn Iowa [Mr. BUTLER 1 is to be divided between the gentleman from Alabama [Mr~ HER­ Weight as!orged,.l,OOP7 tons. BERT] and the gentleman from Maine [Mr. BOUTELLE}~ Weight shi-pped or ready for shipment, 380.14 tons. NoTE.-Amongpla..tes ready !or-shipment are those for the two ba.rbettes Mr. BOUTELLE. What is the purpose of the Chair in :re­ of ;M:onterey (157.57 tons), which will be shipped within a week. gard to that exte-nded time? Does the Chair mean that the gen­ tleman from Iowa. shall close debate or the gentleman from Ala­ I have als.o the following official letteF from the naval officer bama? who is now acting as inspector at the Bethlehem works, which The CHAIRMAN. There was no modificationorqualifi.cation clearly sets forth the assurances of a largely increa~ed capacity attached to the request made as to the time when the gentleman for the production of a~mor there in the near future: should occupy the floor. OFFICE OF INSPECTOR OF ORDNANCE, Mr. BOUTELLE. I submit that it was qualified by the very BETHLEREM IRON WORKS, terms of the permission, that the extension should be granted So uth Bethlehem, Pa., .April n , 1892. Sm: Repl:ying to Bureau's letter No, 2061, of AprilS, 1892, I have consulted to him on precisely the same terms as it was granted to the gen­ wi til the offtda.ls of the Bethle.h;em Iron Company and learn that the followinbeg tleman from New York [Mr. COVERT]. It was clearly under­ additional facilities. for finishing armor plate have b~n ordered and will stood, and it is clearly in order that the time should be occupied available in the near future. now. The CHAIRMAN. The only limit was the amotmt of time Planers. To plane To plane I Ordered from- When available. given, not the time when it should be occupied, theCha.ir thinks. length. width. It is a matter of good faith with the gentJ.eman as to when he shall occupy it; and the Chair does not feel called urn to say Feet. One ______Feet.8 ~ William Sellers & Co.l when he shall occupy it. [Cries of "Vote!" "Vote!" One ______30 10 and BenJ?-ett, ~es Three months. Mr. BOUTELLE. The Chair will certainly concede that the 30 l2. & Co., Philadelphia, One ______30 Pa. gentleman who offers the amendment, or the gentleman who One ______30 11 Buildinghere______Do. .' represents the committee, shall close this debate. The CHAIRMAN. That is a question of propriety, but the Chair thinks the gentleman will observe it is hardly a. question Each of these planers will plane both edges of a plate at the same time, and they are to be powerfnl and specially bnilt for heavy armor plates. The of order at this time. capacity of the !our will be about equal to that of eight single side planers. Mr. BOUTELLE... I believe that has been uniform custom of The present machinery for finishing armor-plates consists of three saws, two the House; but I will leave that to be settled between the gen­ single side planers, one edge planer and shaper, and one drill press in the plate-trimming shOJ?. I understand that with an additional edge planer and tleman from Alabama, in defense of his own privilege, and any­ shaper this is practically the Crensot equipment for machining armor plate. one else who sees fl. t to challenge it. In the new maehine shop there are three planers and one drill press and in The most that I desire to say, Mr. Chairman, at. this time, is the old :machine shop th1lre are two planers., all capable of machining heavy armor. in answer to the only seriousobiootion that I understand has been With the installation of the four new plan.ers I think the machining ca­ urged by the majority of the committee against the. authoriza­ pacity will be about doubled. The additional forging facilities now under tion of these additional vessels; namely, that if they are author­ construction and whi.ch will be available within the year will enable plates to be forged closelyto size and shape and thus do awaywith_muchma.chin ized now, the armor can not be furnished by the time they will ing, and consequently increase the output. be ready for it. In reply to that assertion I will state that con­ Aft.e.r a ca.J"eful consideration of the condition of the plant in all its details, tracts for armor have been made as follows: I a.m. of the opinion that there will baa marked increase in the output of the Tons. finished plates within the next three months. It is difH.cult to estimate the actual number of tons per month at present, but .r see no reason why it With Bethlehem Iron Company------· ------6, 703 should not reach from 3.,"{) to 400 tons towar~ the end of the year. With Carnegie, Phipps & Co------, 000 I think deliveries, commencing With this month, will gradually increase as the plant in a.ll1ts parts gets into full operation, and experience is gained in the various stages of manufacture and fitting. Total under contract_·-··------12,703 Very respectfully. Still to be contracted for, for ships thus far authorized-~ 3, 800 , K. NILES, Deliveries on the two contracts have already commenced, Lieutenant and Inspector of Ordnan<:e. Commodore W. M. FoLGEBi, U. S. N., amounting in all to 300 tons, and more than one-fourth of the Chief of Bu1·eau of Ordnance. whole Bethlehem contract is already forged. It is estimated that deliveries will continue at the :rate of 700 tons per month, so that In addition to that-, M.r. Chad.J?man1 I am glad to-be able to state tha present contracts should be completed. by September 1,.1893. that the entire armor for the Mon.terey has been com-pleted, and It is believed that in the course of the next twelve or fifteen will be delivered during the p:z.oesent. month. From Carnegie,

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Phipps & Co., the other contra-ctors, I have received a letter, ocr atic national convention made the work of reconstructing dated March 23, in which they say: the Navy a matter of especial boast in its platform, as follows: In the month of February we shipped 105 tons of armored plate to apply on By intelligent management and a judicious and economical expenditure our contract with the United States Navy Department. Our shipments in of the public money it has set on foot the reconstruction of the AmPrican March will aggregate about the same quantity. With increased finishing Navy upon a system which forbids the recurr.ence of scandal and insures facilities, which will be available within sixty days) we hope to reach an av- successful results. - erage monthly production of not less that 350 tons. These successful results are what I ani seeking to promo!e by These documents from the Navy Department, and from the the amendment which I have offered. That amendment is in contractors, engaged in this work, fully substantiate my conten- ·the direct line of our naval development. We can not afford to tion that there will be no difficulty with regard to furnishing the say that this country is unwilling to incur the expense necessary armor of the proposed ships.. That there should have been some for accomplishing a result that all who understand the subject delay up to the present time was to be expected, when we have concede to be desirable. That we need -these ships is recognized been domesticating in our country great steel-forging establish- by everyone who has examined the subject carefully. If, as is ments of a magnitude unparaUeled in the industrial works of believed by the experts of the Department, the best measure of this country. economy in appropriations for the Navy at this time is to provide It was only natural that there should be some delay, which has a sufficient number of powerful ships of sufficient strength in ar­ been increased by the important experimentation of the Navy mor and battery to defend our coasts and to repel the assault of Department in regard to the character andqualityof the-plates. any nation that may venture to make war upon us, we can not Some compensation for that delay is found in the fact that the excuse ourselves for delay which is simply for the sake of delay, perfection of the nickel and Harvey processes has largely in- the postponing to another year of that which we ought to do creased the resisting power of the armor plates; so that we will now. - · have on the vessels under construction the very best armor of any Mr. Chairman, this is not a sectional question in any sense. navy, armor capable of a much greater resistance than that of The Navy is not a sectional institution. It is the Navy of the any other country. United States. It is the Navy, not of the North and the East, Upon one other point~ which will be urged by the chairman of but of the South, of the West, and of the Pacific coast as well. the committee, against the increased expenditure involved (while I have myself favored, and shall continue to favor, legislation to of course I am unable to anticipate exactly the line of his argu- establish one of. the great naval depots on the Gulf, where I think ment in that regard), I may perhaps satisfy the reasonable ex- we should have a well-equipped station. pectationof the committee by a general statement-that the total To-day one of the most important naval establishments in the costofthe two proposed in my amendmentwillproba- country is located in Virginia; and we have been developing it bly be, entirely completed, about $11,000,000. more rapidly and increasing its importance faster than that of The armed cruiser authorized in the bill will cost, according any other navy-yard in the country; while in my own section the to the authorization, $3,500,000, exclusive of armament, and navy-yards at Boston and Kittery have not been utilized as their $1,200,000 for her armament. The ten torpedo boats will cost superior advantages and unexcelled facilities would fully war­ $1,200,000, and I have increased the limit for the torpedo cruiser rant. I have made no complaint on account of the building up by $162,000. That will make an agg-regate of $17,062,000, which of the great naval establishment in the South; and have been will be carried by the authorization for ships the construction of willing to help to build up another. The Navy is a national in­ which will be extended over at least four years, probably more; stitution.- so that the average annual additional expenditure involved by The personnel of the Navy represents every part of our com­ making this provision -now will be in the vicinity of four and a mon country. Since the close of the war there have been ap­ quarter million dollars ($4:265,500). And the aggregate cost of pointed as the future officars of the Navy, by you, gentlemen, and all the vessels proposed only equals the amount actually appro- your predecessors; from the States that engaged in the rebellion, priated last year for expenditure in one year upon the increase no less than 5!0 cadets and acting midshipmen to officer our ships of the Navy. and command them in case of war. Why, sir, the gentleman Now, if the argument of some gentlemen on the other side that from Indiana himself has appointed no less than nine of these we do not need a naval force at all is valid, then of course the ex- future naval heroes that he would have fight battles on the ocean pynditure of even $-!,000,000 a year for new ships can not be jus- without ships and win naval victories without guns. tified. But, Mr. Chairman, the policy of the QQvernment in this An examination of the naval roster shows that to-day there r egard has been determined and inaugurated. It has been in- are on the active list of the Navy in the various corps not less dorsed by administrations of both political parties. It has b 3en than 221 officers appointed from the States that engaged in the

recommended by naval committees of both political parties, and rebellion-every one of them proud of his flag, everyon'3 oT t.hem 'I the only difference between the present chairman of the com- anxious to serve his country, every one of them desirous that this mittee and myself and other of his colleagues at this time is as great arm of our service shall be increased and strength 'l nedas to the period when we should commence the construction of the it ought to be. additional number of battle ships required. Gentlemen, I appeal to the representatives of all sections of In his report the chairman distinctly states his belief that we this country in behalf of a national interest. To gentlemen ought to have at least ten or twelve additional battle ships, and from the West let me say, no matter how far you may have he states that there is no reason why we should not complete the gone into the interior, your footsteps toward the setting strn authorization of these vessels within four years. If that is to be were followed by the fostering care and protection of the pa­ done, I submit that we can not begin too soon. If we authorize triotic people of the East; and no advance of civilization, no on­ these two battle ships to-day they will not be put under contract ward march of the pioneer, was ever swift enough to outrun the until late in the fall at best, anditwill beatle-asteighteen months fraternal care and the solicitous, patriotic interest with which to two years before they will b3 ready for _their armor. the people of the seaboard and of the East have helped to make These vessels require at least four years, and probably longer, generous provision for everything that the nation could do for for their construction. If we authorize two battle ships in this the promotion of your prosperity and the protection of your bill we shall have two additional battle ships at the end of the l;tomes. time required to build them, which will be one year earlier than Gentlemen of the South, this is your Navy as well as mine. if we postponed action until the next session of Congress. If we The building up of this great source of national security and do not put them in this bill and the committee and the House power, this greatest of all hostag~ s for our peace with all na­ continue in the future to hold with the committee's report that tions, is a duty that rests upon you as it does upon me-a duty to we ought t9 have them, we shall at lea-st have deferred the pe- which I am r eluctant to believe you will fail to respond.· Only riod of their completion by a full year. It is a simple question a short time ago, when a war cloud seemed to be hovering darkly whether we shall perform the duty of the hour now, or put it off upon our horizon, we heard numerous and gratifying expressions for twelve months. That is the only substantial issue between on the part of gentlemen from the South of a desire, in case hos­ the bill as it stands and my amendment. tilities should ensue with any other nation on the earth, to ... how I will not stop to discuss at this time the peculiar views of the to the co'.lntry that that portion of our reople who wer e alienated gentleman from Indiana[Mr. HOLMAN], because, whatever there from us during a r ecent unfortunate perioi would be among the may be behind them or whatever strength he may believe there first to spring to the national defense and !\-ID'Jng the most eager is in them, or whatever support they may have in certain sec- and valiant in upholding the national honor. tions or localities, his opinion that we do not need any Navy haa I believe it; but, gentlemen, we do not need that sort of assur­ never been approved at any time by the representatives of the ance from you. It is not necess~wy that this nation shonld b 3 people of the United States. It has never had the approval of the plunged into war or bathed in blood in order for you to prove executive department or of either branc_h Congress and, as a your d~votion to its interests and your pride in its glory. You matter of fact, it has never had the approval of either of the have an opportunity here to-day to stand up for the prestige of greatpoliticalpartiesin thedecla.rationsoftheirpolicy. Gentle- I the United States among the nations of the earth. You have man on the other side should remember that the very lastDem- . an opportunity now, by putting behind you all the demagC'lgio ·•

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considerations of amistaken political expediency, that has been machinery necessary to the construction of such vessels, and wlll repudiated on this floor by representatives of your own party result in distributing the money among the people. from several of the most important States of the Union-you have Let us build vessels that will excite the admiration of our peo­ an opportunity, by making a. reasonably liberal provision from ple and the admiration and wonder of the J:eople in all parts of the funds of the people for carrying forward the necessary work the world, and impress upon distant and surrounding nations the for the reestablishment of the American Navy, to show quite as necessity of paying proper respect and consideration to the Amer-­ conclusively as you possibly could in time of war that you desire ican citizen. lApplause.] to uphold the dignity and enhance the glory and power of our [During the delivery of the foregoing remarks, Mr. SIMPSON common country. [Applause.] asked unamimousconsent, which was granted, that Mr. MILLER'S Mr. HERBERT. Mr. Chairman, has the time of the gentle­ time be extended for ten minutes.] man from Maine [Mr. BOUTELLE] expired? Mr. BOUTELLE. I waive the balance of my time. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Maine has twelve Mr. HERBERT. Mr. Chairman, how much time have I? minutes left. The CHAIRMAN. Thirty-seven minutes. Mr. BOUTELLE. I yield :Q.ve minutes to the gentleman from [Mr. HERBERT withholds his remarks for ravision. See Wisconsin[Mr. MILLER]. Appendix.] Mr. MILLER. Mr. Chairman, the proposition to gradually increase our Navy I am confident will receive the cordial indorse­ Mr. McALEER. Mr. Chairman; T ask unanimousconsentthat ment of the American people. Ever since the trouble with Chile the time of the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. HERBERT] be ex­ I have been satisfied that our Navy should be materially in­ tended for twenty minutes. creased. The fact is, that trouble would not have happened H Mr. HOPKINS of Illinois. _ Mr. Chairman, I would like to we had a more powerful navy. know-- They regarded their navy as absolutely superior to ours, and I Mr. HERBERT. I will not take any more time, Mr. Chair­ am not 'sure but what they were correct. They had conquered man. I will ask p3rmission to extend my remarks in the REc­ Peru and they became arrogant, and concluded their fleet could ORD. sail up to San Francisco and levy on that city for an amount that Mr. HOPKINS of Illinois. I wish to say to the gentleman would replenish their depleted treasury. They probably counted from Alabama [Mr. HERBERT] that I do not object at all to the upon assistance that would enable them to attack and levy upon proposed extension of his time. our cities on the Atlantic coast. Had not a settlement been made The CHAIRMAN. The time for generaldebateisexhausted. they might have caused a destruction of property that would have Mr. HERBERT. Mr. Chairman, we want to get a vote upon entailed a loss that would have amounted to more than what a this bill, and, as I think the committee are ready to vote upon it, dozen such navies as we possess is worth. I will not occupy any more time, b:It, with the permission of the When we recollect the immense destruction of proparty committee, will extend my remarks in the RECORD. caused by the Alabama and Florida, which vessels would bear no There was no objection. comparison with vessels owned by the Chilean Government, we The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment sub- _ are justified in concluding that Chile could have damaged us seri­ mitted by the gentleman from Maine [Mr. BOUTELLE], which ously. the Clerk will read. Now, sir, I do not think we should invite an attack from a The Clerk read as follows: On page 39, strike out all after the word " dollars,'' in line 10, to and includ­ country like Chile. For the matter of that I would not neglect ing the word "designate," in line..22, and insert: to provide suitable defense, both by sea and land, that will prevent ''The President is hereby further authorized to have constructed by con­ any power from interfering with the rights of our country or its tract, two sea-going, coast-line battle ships, designed to carry the heaviest armor and most powE>rful ordnance upon a displacement of about 10,000 tons, citizens when in the performanceof public or private business in with a coal endurance of about 5,000 knots on the total coal capacity at the foreign countries. _ most economical rate of speed, and to have the highest practicable speed for Do you think under like circumstances the sailors of Great vessels of their class, to cost, exclusive or armament and of any premiums that may be paid for increased speed. not exceeding $4,000,000 each; and ten Britam would have been subjected to so outrageous. and dis­ torpedo boats at a cost not to exceed $120.000 each. graceful an attack as was made upon our sailors in the streets of "In the construction of all said vessels, including said armored cruiser, all Valparaiso? We all know nothing of the kind would have hap­ other provisions of the act of August 3, 1886, entitled 'An act to increase the naval establishment,' as to materials for said vessels, their engines, boilers, pened, and had such an attack been ·made we all know that a and machinery, the contracts under which they are built, the notice of any British fleet would have very soon appeared in the harbor of proposals for the s:ctme, t.he plans, drawings, specifications therefor, and the Valparaiso, and if suitable reparation had not been made the method of executing said contracts shall be observed and followed, and said vessels shall be built in compliance with the terms of said act, save that in British fleet would have leveled that city to· the ground. all their parts said vessels shall be of domestic manufacture. And in the But our situation was such that we were not in position to com­ contracts for the construction of each of said vessels, except said armored pel Chile to do justice until we had spent considerable time and cruiser, such provisions for minimum speed and for premiums tor increased speed and penalties for deficient speed may be made, subject to the terms of a large amount of money in order to create a fleet of sufficient this bill, as in the discretion of the Secretary of the Navy may be deemed capacity to cope successfully with the . advisable. If the Secretary of the Navy shall be unable to contract at rea­ This country possessing a population of 64,000,000, with large sonable prices for the construction ot any of said vessels, then he may build said vessel or vessels in such navy-yards as he may designate. cities exposed for the want of proper defenses, I regard it as a "And the Secretary of the Navy is hereby authorized to readvertise for necessity that we should materially increase our Navy, that it proposals for the construction of one swift torpedo cruiser of about 750 tons may correspond to a partial extent with the population and displacement, which was authorized by the act making appropriations for the naval service, approved June 30, 18il0, and the limit of cost of said tor- wealth of the country. We have an extensive coast and great pedo cruiser is hereby extended to $512,000, exclusive of armament." _ interests to protect, and I believ~ we will save money by keep­ Mr. CAMINETTI. I move to amend the amendment of the ing up an efficient navy. We shall be less likely to have trouble gentleman from Maine [Mr. BOUTELLE] by inserting what I send with other countries. to the desk. I have noticed that in modern times the nations that are the The Clerk read as follows: most prosperous are the countries that have the largest navies. Insert after the word " advisable," second paragraph of Mr. BOUTELLE'S No one will· deny that the supremacy and power of Great Britain amendment, the following: on the globe is due to her navy. It was the same with Holland, ;, In making proposals for contracts for building the vessels authorized by this act it shall be required that one of said coast line-of-battle ships, and when Von Tromp commanded her fleets and rode in triumph the­ such of said torpedo boats as may be intended for use on the Pacific coast, Northern seas and the British Channel. It was the same with shall be built on or near the coast of the Pacific 0 -::ean, or the waters con­ Spain, Italy, and Venice, as long as they retained their suprem­ nected therewith, and the remaining one of said coast line-of-battle ships and such of said torpedo boats intended for use on the Atlantic coast shall be acy on the sea. Turn back the leaves of ancient history and we built on or near the Atlantic coast, or the waters connected therewith, as the can trace the downfall of Egypt and the powerful nations of an­ Secretary of the Navy shall approve: Provided, That if it shall appear to the cient times to the time they neglected their navies. satisfaction of the President of the United States, from the biddings for said contracts, when the same are opened and examined by him, that said Nothing contributed more to our prosperity, glory, and im­ coast line-of-battle ship can not be constructed at a fair cost on or near the port.ance in the early history of our country than the splendid coast of the Pacific Ocean, he shall authorize the construction of said vessel record made by the Navy in the early days of the Republic. In elsewhere in the United States .. , those times, when the war·vessels of England swarmed the seas, Mr. BOUTELLE. Is that identical with the provision in the Paul Jones sailed his vessels in triumph through the British previous bill? Channel, and Decatur, when this country was in its infancy, dic- Mr. CAMINETTI. Yes, I have followed the law of 1889, the tated terms to Algiers. _ language of which I believe was d1·awn by the gentleman him-_ Let us keep pace with our competitora for the trade of the self. world and encourage our people in their competition by affording Mr. BOUTELLE. I accept the gentleman's amendment. them protection in the most remote-corners of the earth. Mr. HEARD. I wish to ask the gentleman from California The money invested in vessels will give employment to people. [Mr. CAMINETTI] and also the gentleman from Maine [Mr .. Bou­ in various parts of the country. It will give employment t.o those TELLE] whether the provision of the former law authorized the engaged in mining coal and iron. It will give employment to construction of a vessel on the Pacific coast unconditionally? the common laborer, to skilled artisans in iron and wood and the Was there not some limitation with regard to cost? I

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Mr. BOUTELLE. This amendment as read containS' a proviso of the bottom, but an unsheathed vessel can not do this without endangering the protective paint and risking destructive corrosion of the steel shell. which meets the gentleman's point. 'l'he anchorage for heavy ships a.t Buenos Ayres is still farther out, being Mr. HEARD. The former act provided, I believe, that if lihe 10 or 12 miles from the city. There is no harbor fot• large vessels, and in or· vessel could not be built there within a certain limit of cost, it der to reach even this· anchorage, heavy ships must be dragged through the mud otiPoint Indio where the wa.ter is shoal. Twenty feet ca.n now be car­ should be built somewhere else. ried through the dredged channel into the "Boca," or harbor mouth and the Mr. CAMINETTI. That is provided for here. artificial basins close to the city, but vessels lying in the basins su.frer dis­ Mr. BOUTELLE. According to my understanding, this tinct military disadvantages in being tied up to the dock and in having thei!" opportunities for drills and exercises much restricted. Moreover the sani· amendment follows the language of the previous law, which con­ tary conditions are not favorable to a long stay. tained a proviso such as the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. The only suitable vessels for cruising in the rivers and its estuary are small HEARD] indicates. vessels built of wood or sheathed and coppered. Such vessels can be taken inside anchorage at Montevideo, and can visit Rosario, Colonia, and other Mr. HEARD. I did not hear-that part of the amendment. river ports, lying always within easy communication with the shore, and can The CHAIRMAN. In the absence of objection the amend­ without hindrance from weather o1· surroundings keep up the drills which ment of the gentleman from California [Mr. CAl\UNETTI] will be are necessary to military effi.ciency. The great naval powers fully recognize these facts. England, whose com­ regarded as incorporated as a part of the amendment of the gen­ mercialinterests in the river are enormous, not alone because of the steamer tleman from Maine. The question is now on the amendment of lines nmning under her flag, but also because of the great number of her the gentleman from Maine amended. subjects in Uruguay and the Argentine and the vast quantity of English a.s capital embarked in railway, banking, and other ventures, maintains a squad­ The amendment was rejected; there being on a division (called ron of tour small vessels. one , and three gun vessels, under the for by Mr. BOUTELLE)-ayes 65, noes 101. command of a. captain as senior omcer. The French keep one small vessel Mr. BOUTELLE. Perhaps the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. under a captain's command. the Spanish one., the Italians two, the Germans none. The Spanish and Italian senior ofl:lcers are commanders. HERBERT], my colleague on the committee, will be willing to All these powers have steamer lines coming into the Platte, many citizens arrange for a vot-e by yeas and nays in the House on this propo­ living in the river countries, and much capital invested in them. The United States Government alone maintains a. flag o.m.cer on this station. and the sition. United States cruisers at present here are the only men-of-war on the East Several MEMBERS. Regular order. coast of South America. that can not anchor in the bay of Montevideo. All Mr. BOUTELLE. I hardly supposed that would be assented the small foreign vessels above mentioned are sheathed and coppered. The importance o! the :frequent docking of unsheathed vessels presents a tangi­ to. ble and serious objection to their long retention on this coast. There are no Mr. CUMMINGS. I beg to offer the amendment which I send docks in the river capable of taking in large ships. to the desk. A cruiser like the Chicago, for instance, must go to Rio Janeiro, that be­ The Clerk read follows: ing the only port on the coast that atiords the requisite docking facilities; as and to place a vessel in dock there involves not merely the risk but prac­ On page 39, strike out all a.!ter the word "dollars," in line 10, to and includ­ tically the certainty of infection by yellow !ever. The bottom of a. cruiser ing the word "designate," in line 22, and insert: ought to be examined within four months of her last docking, say within "The President is hereby further authorized to have constructed by con­ two or three months of her arrival upon this coast. The alternative there­ tract one sea-going, coast-line battle ship dasigned to carry the heaviest fore speedily presents itself-either to risk the deterioration of her bottom armor and most powerful ordnance upon a. displacement o! about 10,000 t-ons, or an epidemic of yellow !ever among her omcers and crew. Large ships With a. coal endurance o! about 5,000 knots on the total coal capacity a.t the have always been unsuitable for cruising dnty upon this station, but large most economical rate o! speed, and to have the highest practicable speed !or wooden ships were independent o! those docking facilities, which can not be vessels of its class, to cost, exclusive of armament and of any premiums that withheld from large steel ships without endangering their existence. may be paid for increased speed, not exceeding M,OOO,OOO; and five torpedo I venture to repeat the recommendation which I have- previously made to boats at a cost not to exceed $120,000 eacll. the Department, that this station should cease to be a fiag o.m.cer's command. "In the construction of all said vessels including said armored cruiser, all The duties are inadequate to a flag o.m.cer's rank and position, and the ex­ other provisions of the act of August 3, 1886, entitled 'An act to increase the pense is unnecessary. The new vessels of our Navy can be more economic­ naval establishment,' as to materials for said vessels, their engines, boilers, ally maintained and can render better service elsewhere. I would recom­ and machinery, the cont-racts under which they are built, the notice of any mend kaeping a small vessel of light draft, preferably a special-servicevessel, proposals for the same, the plans, drawings, specifications therefor, and the in the River Platte, and sending once a year a vessel from the NorthA.tlantic method o! executing said contracts shall be observed and followed, and said Squadron to this coast, thence to the Cape of Good Hope, up along the east vessels shall be built in compliance with the t;erms of said act, save that in coast of Africa, and back home through the Suez Canal and the Mediterra­ au their parts said vessels shall be of domestic manufacture. And in the nean occupying a. year in the cruise. Round trips o! this kind would have contracts tor the construction of each ot said vessels, except said armored manY advantages, would pertonn. effi.cintly the cruising se1·vice required. in cruiser, such provisions !or minimum speed and !or premiums for increased time of peace, visiting many ports in regular rotation, and would involve speed and penalties for deficient speed may be made, subject to the terms o! only the abSence of one ship a.t a time from the home sounding. this bill, as in the discretion of the Secretary of the Navy may be deemed My personal interest in making these recommendations is small, my com­ advisable. I! the Secretary of the Navy shall be unable to contract at reason­ mand of this station is only temporary and incidental to other contemplated .I able prices for the construction of any of said vessels, then he may build said service and my cruise is approaching its close. But I have always opposed vessel or vessels in such navy-yards a.s he may designate. the assignment of a flag omcer to this command, and with each visit to "And the Secretary of the Navy is hereby authorized to readvertise for pro­ South America. I am the more convinced that the suggestions which I sub­ posals for the construction or one swift torpedo cruiser o! about 750 tons dis­ mit are in the line of military effi.ciency and good administration. placement, which was authorized by the act ma~ng appropria.tit?ns for the Very respectfully. naval service, approved June 30, 1890, and the limit or cost or said torpedo J. G. WALKER, cruiser is hereby extended to $512,000, exclusive of armament." Rear-Admiral United States .NaV?J, comm.anding Squad of Evolution. Mr. CUMMINGS. I do not desire to take up the time of the Ron. SECRETARY OF THE N .A. VY. House on this amendment, and there is no necessity for it. The The Clerk read as follows: amendment simply provides for one-half of what the amendment on page 39 strike out all after the word "dolla.rs,"in line 10, to and includ­ ing the word "designate," in line 22, and insert: of the gentleman from Maine called for. •·The President is hereby further authorized to have constructed by con­ The amendment was rejected; there being on a division (called tract two steel of the most approved type, of about 1,200 tons dis­ for by Mr. CUMMINGS}-ayes 73, noes 99. placement to have a maximum speed of not less than 17 knots, and to cost, Mr. BOUTELLE. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following amend­ exclusive of armament. not more than $500,000 each; ten torpedo boats a.t a cost not to exceed $120,000 each. ment for two light-draft steel gunboats, in connection with which "In the construction o! all said vessels, including said armored cruiser, all I will p1·int in the RECORD the following communication from of the provisions of the act of August 3, 1886, entitled '.An act to increase the Rear-Admiral Walker, United States Navy, commanding naval establishment,' a.s to materials tor said vessels, their engines, boilers, J. G. and machinery, the contracts under which they are built, the notice of any the squadron of evolution: proposals for the same, the plans, drawings, specifications therefor, and the U. S. S. CHICAGO, FLAGSHIP OF THE SQUADRON OF EVOLUTION, method o! executing said contracts shall be observed and followed, and sa~d Montevideo, Urugu-ay, February 15, 1892. vessels shall be built in compliance with the terms of said act, save that m all their parts said vessels shall be of domestic manufactme. And in the con­ sm: I have the honor to call the attention of the Department to the sani­ tractsfor construction of each said vessels, except said armored cruiser. such tary condition of the east coasli of South America, and to the naval force provisions for minimum speed and for premiums for increased speed and which the chief foreign powers maintain in the South Atlanti.c, and also to penalties tor deficient speed may be made, subject to the terms of this bill, the objections which may be strongly urged against the permanent reten­ as in the discretion of the Secretary of the Navy may be deemed advisable. tion of unsheathed cruisers of large size upon this station. In Brazilian If the Secretary of the Navy shall be unable to contract at reasonable ports yellow fever is found :practically throughout the year; in the summer prices tor the construction of any of said vessels, then he may build said ves­ frequently assuming an epidemic form, and in the winter existing in scat­ sel or vessels in such navy-yards as he may designate. And the Secr~tary of tered and sporadic cases, at all times a. menace to the health of una.cclimated the Navy is hereby authorized to readvertise !or proposals for the c~nstruc­ ton of one swift torpedo cruiser of about 'roO tons displacement, which was cr~~:· concurrent testimony of all officers of large experience in South authorized by the act making appropriations for thena.va.l service, approved Amel'ica. is that vessels should visit Brazilian ports only when spe::ific cir­ June 30 1890, and the limit of cost o! said torpedo cruiser is hereby extended cumstances require them to do so; that at such times their stay should be ot brief duration, and that strict sanitary regulations and precautions should to $512,0oo, exclusive of armament. be enforced. This involves the refusal of liberty to-men, and the curtailment Mr. CAMINETTI. With a modification striking out "ba~tle of many privileges which are usually granted to both men and offi.cers, and ships" and inserting" g-unb?ats," I renew the amendment which which promote contentment and relieve the tedium and monotony of a. long foreign cruiser. I formerly offered, and wh1ch was accepted by the gentleman During this present season the yellow !ever has been.unusually severe in f~:om Maine [Mr. BOUTELLE]. Rio Janeiro and Santos; and it has even appeared at Bahia, the one port of Mr. BOUTELLE. I hardly think the gentleman will care to Brazil in which during several previous years it has been said not to have existed. . . have that apply to a small appropriation of this kind. The unhealthiness of the coast of Brazil, therefore, practically limits crUIS­ Mr. CAMINETTI. Very well. ing vessels to the estuary of the River Plate, of which the principal ports The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from California [Mr. CAM­ are Montevideo and Buenos Ayres. At Montevideo vessels of deep draft are obliged to lie 2 miles or more outside or the b.a.y in the ope~ sea. The INETTI] withdraws the proposition. weather is frequently boisterous, and during the wmter almost mcessantly The question being take~ on the am~n~I?ent of Mr. BOUTELLE, so rendering communication diffi.cult and causing injury to boats, gang­ it was rejected; there bemg on a diVlSlon (called for by Mr. ways external chutes, and other articles of equipment.. wooden or sheathed nsseis, coppered, go further in, lying at times without1njury in the soft mud BOUTELLE)-ayes 68, noes 104.

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Mr. CUMMINGS. I desire to offer one other amendment, and The CHAIRMAN. , Is there objection to the request of the then I am through. [Laughter.] gentleman from Alabama? The Clerk read as follows:. There was no objection. On page 39, strike out all after the word "dollars," in line 10, to and includ­ Mr. HERBERT. I move to amend the total in lines19and20 ing the word "designate," in line 2"2, and insert: on that page, making the total for public works for navy-yc.rds ''The President is also hereby authorized to have constructed by contract tour torpedo cruisers of about 800 tons displacement, each to show a speed and stations $588,900. . of between 22 and 23 knots per hour, to cost, exclusive of armament and tor­ That amendment is rendered necessary by the striking out of pedooutfit,notmorethan$500,000each; twolight-draftgunboatsofaboutl,OOO the pt·ovision for tp.e dry dock at Algiers, La., and this is simply tons displacements, for special service in foreign waters, to cost, exclusive . of armament, not more than l350,000 each; and two first-class torpedo boats a correction of the amount of the bill to conform to the action of of the general type of No.2, to cost, exclusive of armament the committee. and torpedo outfit, not more than :S120,000 each. Mr. BOUTELLE. It is simply a correction of th~ footings. In the construction of all said vessels, including said armored cruiser, all ,· other provisions of the act of August 3, 1886, entiM.ed "An act to increase the Mr. HERBERT. That is all. naval establishment.," as to materials for said vessels, their engines, boilers, The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendment. and machinery, the contracts under which they are built, the notice of any The Clerk read as follows: proposals for the same, the plans, drawings, specifications thereof, and the method of executing said contracts shall be observed and followed, and said Strike out $833,900 and insert in lieu thereof $583,900. vessels shall be built in compliance with the terms of said act, save that in The amendment was adopted. all their parts said vessels shall be of domestic manufacture. And in the contracts for the construction of eaoh of said vessels, except said armored Mr. HERBERT. I move that the committee rise and report cruiser and four torpedo cruisers. such provisions for minimum speed and the bill with the amendments to the House favorably. for premiums for increased speed and penalties for deficient speed may be The motion was agreed to. made, subject to theterms of this bill, as in the discretion of the Secretary of the Navy may be deemed advisable. If the Secretary of th~Navy shall be The committee accordingly rose; and the Speaker havintr re­ unable to contract at reasonable prices for the construction of any of said sumed the chair, Mt·. SHIVELY reported that the Commit"e of vessels, then he may build said vessel or vessels in such navy-yards as he the Whole House on the state of the Union having had under may designate. consideration the naval appropriation bill, had directed him to The amendment was rejected, there being on adivision(called report the same to the House with sundry amendments and . fo1· by Mr. CUMMINGS)-ayes 70, noes 97. that as amended the bill do pass. The Clerk proceeded to read the next paragraph of the bill. The SPEAKER. If there be no objection, the question will Mr. HOLMAN. Mr. Chairman, there was a motion made to be taken on the amendments in gross. strike out. There being no objection, the amendments were considered and Mr. BOUTELLE. Is not this too late? adopted. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Indiana incorporated The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed and read a his motion in the RECORD. It will be read. · third time, and was accordingly read the third time. The Clerk read as follows: The question being on its passage, · Mr. HOLMAN moves to strike out the pending section. Mr. BOUTELLE. I move to recommit the bill with in­ The amendment was rejected, there beingonadivision(called structions to report it back with an amendment which.I send to for by Mr. HOLMAN)-ayes 58, noes 120. . the desk. Mr., HOLMAN. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following substi­ The SPEAKER. The amendment will be read. tute for the pending paragraph: The Clerk read as follows: The Clerk read as follows: On page 39, strike out all after the word "dollars" in line 10, to and includ­ Strike out all after line 15 on page 38 down to and including line 22 on' page ing the word "designate " in line 22, and insert: 39, and insert the following: "'l'he President is hereby further authorized to h.ave constructed by con­ "That for the purpose of further increasing thenava.l esta.blishmentof the tract two sea-going, coast-line battle ships, designed to carry the heaviest United States, the President is hereby authorlzed to have const.ructed by armor and most powerful ordnance upon a displacement of about 10,000 contract four torpedo boats. at a cost not to exceed $120,000 each. In the con­ tons, with a coal endurance of about 5,000 knots on the total coal capacity at struction of said vessels all the provisions of the act of Augnst 3, 1886, entitled the most economical rate of speed, and to have the highest practicable speed 'An act to increase the naval establishment,' as to material for said ves· for vessels of their class, to cost, exclusive of armament and of any premtums sels, their engines, boilers, and machinery, the contracts under which they that may be paid for increased speed, not exceeding $4,000,000 each; and ten are built, the notice of and proposals for the same, the plans, drawings, torpedo boats, at a cost not to exceed $120,000 each. specifications therefor, and the method of executing said contracts, shall be "In the construction of all said vessels. including said armored cruiser, all observed and followed, and said vessels shall be built in compliance with the of the provisions of the act of Augnst 3, 1886, entitled 'An act to increase the terms of said act, save that in all their parts said vessels shall be of domestic naval establishment,' as to materials for said vessels, their engines, boilers, manufacture. If the Secretary of the Navy shall be unable to contract at and machinery, the contracts under which they are built, the notice of any reasonable prices for the building of said vessels, then he may build such proposals for the same, the plans, drawings, specifications therefor, and the vessels in such navy-yard as he may designate." method of executing said contracts shall be observed and followed, and said vessels shall be built in compliance with the terms of said act-, save that in Mr. BOUTELLE. Do I understand that this strikes out the all their parts said vessels shall be of domestic manufacture. And in the provision for the armored cruiser? contracts for the construction of each of said vessels, except said armored cruiser, such provisions for minimum speed and for premiums for increased Mr. HOLMAN. Yes. speed and penalties for deficient speed may be made, subject to the terms of Mr. BOUTELLE. And substitutes four torpedo boats? this bill, as in the discretion of the Secretary of the Navy may be deemed ad­ visable. Mr. HOLMAN. That is the effect of it. It strikes out the "IftheSecreta.ryoftheNa.vysha.ll beunabletocontractatreasonableprices ship and substitutes four torpedo boats. tor the construction of any of said vessels, then he may build s _ ~i d vessel or Mr. O'NEILL of Missouri. Why not make this provision in vessels in such navy-yards as he may designate. addition to the other? "And the Secretary of theNa.vyis hereby authorized toreadvertisefor pro­ posals for the construction of one swift torpedo cruiser of about 7"<>0 tons Mr. BOUTELLE. Woulditnotsa.ve time to make it four row displacement, which was authorized by the act making appropriations for boats? It would be a good deal cheaper. [Laughter.] the nava.l service, approved June 30,1890, and the limit of cost of said torpedo The question was taken on the amendment; and on a. division cruiser is hereby extended to $512,000, exclusive of armament." (demanded by Mr. HOLMAN) there were-ayes 45, noes 105. The SPEAKER. The question is on the motion of the gentle­ So the amendment was rejected. man from Maine, to recommit the bill with the instructions just The Clerk read as follows: read. UNDER THE BUREAU OF ORDNANCE. Mr. BOUTELLE. Mr. Speaker, to save time I ask for the Armament and armor: Toward the armament and armor of domestic man­ yeas and nays. Ufacture ior the vessels authorized by the act of August 3, 1886; of the -ves­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Maine [Mr. BOUTELLE] sels authorized by section 3 of the act approved March 3, 1887; of the vessels moves to recommit the bill to the Committee on Naval Affairs authorized by the act approved September 7, 1888; of the vessels authorized by the act or March 2, 1889; of those authorized by the acts of June 30, 1890, with the instructions just read, and on that motion he demands March 2, 1891, and this act, including the purchase and installation of new the yeas and nays. machinery for the breech-mechanism shop at the navy-yard, Washington, The yeas and nays were ordered. . D. C. , and torpedo outfits for the Atlanta, Boston, and Chicago, $2,000,000. The question was taken; and there were-yeas 62, nays 135, Mr. BOUTELLE: Mr. Chairman, I desire to as.k the chair­ not voting 131; as follows: man of the committee if provision is made in this appropriation YEAS-62. for the ship provided for in this bill? Amerman, Caminetti., Henderson, Iowa Raines, Andrew, Castle, Hooker, N. Y. Ray, Mr. HERBERT. Oh, there is plenty in the bill for that ship. Atkinson, Che.ham, Hopkins, Pa. Reyburn, Mr. BOUTELLE. I understand not. · Bacon, Clancy, Hopkins, lll. Rife, Mr. HERBERT. I understand there is. Belden, Cockran, Johnson, N. Dak. Rockwell, Belknap, Coombs, Jolley. Shonk, Mr. BOUTELLE. I move to amend by increasing the amount Bentley, Covert, Little, Sperry, to $3,500,000. Bergen, Cox, N.Y. Lod_ge, Steward, ill. The question being taken, the amendment was rejected. Bingham, Cummings, Magner, Sweet. - Boutelle, Curtis, McAleer, Walker, The Clerk resumed and concluded the reading of the bill. Bowers, Dalzell, Meye:r, Waugh, Mr. HERBERT. Mr. Chairman, we have now concluded the Brosius, Durborow, O'Neill, Pa. Weadock, reading of the bill, and I ask unanimous consent to turn back to Buchanan, N. J. Fellows, O'Neill,Mo. Wever, Cable, Griswold, Payne, Wilson, Wash. ... _ page 13 and amend the title under the head of "repairs and pre­ Cadmus. Harmer, Perkins, servations at navy-yards and stations" on that .page. Caldwell, Haugen, Post, .

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3400 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. APRIL 18,

NAYS-135. announced that the Senate had passed bills of the following titles; Allen, CUlberson, Houk,Ohio Patterson, Tenn. in which concurrence was requested: Bailey, Daniell, Johnson, Ohio Patton, Baker, Davis, Johnstone, S.C. Paynter, A bill (S. 1273) to authorize the entry of lands chiefly valuable Barwig, DeArmond, Kern, Richardson, for building stone under the placer-mining laws; Beeman, De Forest, Kilgore, Sayers, A bill (S. 1486) granting to the State of California 5 per cent Beltzhoover, Diclrerson, Kribbs, Scott, -.lount, Dixon, Kyle, Seerley, of the net proceeds of the cash sales of public lands in said State; ~owman, Doclrery, Lane, Shively, A bill (S. 1504) for the relief of David Dealy and Mary Youn­ Branch, Dungan, Lanham, Simpson, kin· Breckinridge, Ky. Edmunds, Lapham, Stackhouse, Briclrner, Elliott, Lawson, Ga. Stewart, Tex. A bill (S. 1797) to ratify and confirm an agreement with the Brookshire, Ellis, Layton, Stockdale, Kickapoo Indians in Oklahoma Territory, and to make appro­ Buchanan, Va. Epes, Lester, Ga. Stone, Ky. priations for earrying the same into e.ffect; Bullock, Everett, Lewis, Stout, Bunn, Fithian, Long, Stump, A bill (S. 2-729) to amend an act entitled "An act to establish Bunting, Forman, Lynch. Tarsney, circuit courts of appeals and to define and regulate in certain Busey, Forney, Mallory, Terry, cases the jurisdiction of the courts of the United States," and Bushnell, Fowler, Martin., Tillman, . I Butler, Gantz, McCreary, Tuclwr, for other purposes; and Capehart., Goodnight, McKaig, VanHorn, A bill (S. 2470) to amend the Articles of War, and for o.ther Caruth, Gorman, McKeil!han, Warner, purposes. ... Catchings, Greenleaf, McKinney, Watson, Cate, Hallowell, McMillin, Wheeler, Ala. It also announced that the Senate had passed without amend­ Causey, Halvorson, McRae, Wheeler, Mich. ment the bill (H. R. 2786) to amend this act giving the privilege Chipman, Hamilton, Mitchell, White, and sanction of Congress to the route and termini of the Ana­ Clarke, Ala. Harries, Montgomery, Whiting, Cobb, Ala. Harter, Moore. Wike, costia and Potomac River Railroad in the District of Columbia. . Cobb, Mo. Hatch, Mutchler, Williams, Mass. It also announced that the Senate had passed the following Coburn, Hayes,Iowa Newberry, Williams, TIL concurrent resolution; in which concurrence was requested: Coolidge, Heard, O'Ferrall, Wilson, Mo. Cox, Tenn. Hemphill, O'Neil, Mass. Wilson, w. Va. .Resolved by the Senate (the House of .Representati:ves concurrtng), That there Craig, Pa. Herbert, Otis, Wise, be printed 35,000 copies in cloth binding of the annual report of the Com­ Crawtord, Holman, Owens. Youmans. missioner of Labor, relating to cost of production, earnings, etnciency of 9I'osby, Hooker,Miss. Page, R.I. labor, and cost of living, 16,000 copies for use of members of the House ot Representatives and 8,000 copies for use of members of the Senate, and 11,000 NOT YOTING-131. copies for the use of the Department of Labor. Abbott, Donovan, Lockwood, Russell, REPRINT OF A REPORT. Alderson, Dunphy, Loud, Sanford, By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. ANDREW, report Alexander, English, McClellan, Scull, Arnold, · Enloe, McDonald, Shell, No. 821 was ordered to be reprinted. Babbitt, Enochs, McGann, Smith, LEAVE OF ABSENCE. Bankhead, Fitch, Mansur, Snodgrass, Bartine, Fliclr, Meredith, Snow, By unanimous consent, leave of absence was granted as follows: Blanchard, Funston, Miller, Springer, To Mr. WASHINGTON, for to-day, on account of sickness in his Bland, Fyan, Milliken, Stahlnecker, Boatner, Geary, Morse. Stephenson, family. Brawley, Geissenhainer, Moses; Stevens, To Mr. WILLIAM A. STONE, for two days, on account of im­ Breckinridge, Ark. Gillespie, Norton, Stone, C. W. portant business. Bretz, Grady, Oates, Stone, W. A. Broderick, Grout, O'Donnell, Storer, To Mr. SNow, for two weeks, on account of important business. Brown, Hall, Outhwaite, Taylor,ID. - To Mr. HOPKINS of Pennsylvania, for four days, on account of Brunner, Hare, Page, Md. Taylor, Tenn. important business. Bryan, Haynes, Ohio Parrett, Taylor, E. B. BmTows, Henderson, N.C. Pattison, Ohio Taylor, J. D. And then, on motion of Mr. McMILLIN (at 5 o'clock and 42 Bynum, Henderson, lll. Pearson, Taylor, V. A. minutes p. m. ), the House adjourned until to-morrow a.t 12 o'clock Byrns, Hermann, Peel, Townsend, noon. Campbell, Hitt, Pendleton, Tracey, Chapin. Hoar, Pickler, Turner, _ Clark, Wyo. Houk, Tenn. Pierce, Turpin., CHA~GE OF REFERENCE. _ Clover, Hui'f, Powers, Wadsworth, Cogswell, Hull, Price, Warwick, Unde~ clause 2 of Rule XXII, committee was discharged from Compton, Johnson, Ind~ Quackenbush, Washington, Cooper, JoJ).es, Randall, Willcox, the consideration of the following bills; which were re-referred, Cowles, Ketcham, Rayner, Williams, N. C. as follows: Crain, Tex. Lagan, Reed, Wilson, Ky. A bill (H. R. 7773) granting a pension to Samuel Robbins-the Cutting, Lawson. Va. Reilly, Winn, Dingley, Lester, Va. Robertson, La. Wolverton, Committee on Invalid Pensions discharged, and referred to the Doan, Lin:d, Robinson, Pa. Wright. Committee on War Claims. Dolliver, Livingston, Rusk, A bill (H. R. 2863) for the relief of the heirs of Alexander McCoppin, deceased-the Committee on Invalid Pensions dis· Mr. BRETZ. Mr. Speaker, I am paired with the gentleman charged, and referred to the Committee on War Claim'3. from Pennsylvania [Mr. GILLESPIE]. I do not know how he A bill (H.R.2874)forthe r elief of Cornelius Johnson, of steam. would vote. But if he were present I would vote" no." ship Brooklyn, United States Navy-the Committee on Invalid Mr. KILGORE . . I am paired with the gentleman from Mary­ Pensions discharged, and referred to the Committee on War land [Mr. RAYNER], but he and I do not disagree upon the pend­ Claims. ing question. A bill (H. R. 4064) for the relief Bruno Nohl-the Committee Mr. HENDERSON of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, I am paired with on Invalid Pensions discharged, and referred to the Committee the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. BLAND]. If he were present on Military Affairs; I should vote" aye" and he would vote "no." A bill (H. R. 4293) to increase the pension of Mrs. Emeline C. The result of the vote was then announced as above recorded. Russell, widow of Charles A. Russell, late of Battery D, Fourth The bill was then passed. United States Artillery-the Committee on Invalid Pensions dis­ On motion of Mr. HERBERT, a motion to reconsider the last charged, and referred to the Committee on Pensions; vote was laid on the table. · A bill (H. R. 7781) to place Mrs. Lucy Ord Mason, widow of So the motion to recommit was rejected. Lieut. John S. Mason, on the pension list-the Committee on The Clerk announced the following additional pairs: Invalid Pensions discharged, and referred to the Committee on Mr. OATES with Mr. EZRA B. TAYLOR, for the rest of this day. Pensions. Mr. SNOW with Mr. PICKLER, for one week. Mr. BOATNER with Mr. STORER, for this vote. Mr. BLAND with.Mr. HENDERSON of Illinois, on naval appro­ BIL;LS, MEMORIALS, AND RESOLUTIONS. priation bill, for the rest of this day. Mr. BLAND would vote Under clause 3 of Rule XXII, bills of the following titles were against the bill and Mr. HENDERSON of Illinois for it. introduced, severally read twice, and referred as follows: Mr. GEISSENHAINER with Mr. BRETZ, Oif naval appropriation By Mr. HEARD: A bill (H. R. 8225 ) to compel applicants for bill and all questions relating thereto. patents to prosecute their claims under such applications with­ Mr. PRICE with Mr. GROUT, for the rest of this day. out unnecessary delay-to the Committee on Patents. Mr. CRAIN of Texa with Mr. HITT, for the rest of this day. By Mr. CULBERSON (by request): A bill (H. R. 8226) provid­ Mr. ENLOE with Mr. BURROWS, for the rest of this day. ing for the appointment of shorthand reporter s by the United,. Mr. KRIBBS with Mr . WADSWORTH, on Boutelle amendment; States district and circuit courts-to the Committee on the Ju- ~ if present Mr. WADS WORTH would vote for that amendment and diciary. - Mr. KRIBBS would vote against it. By Mr. PEEL: A bill (H. R. 8227 ) to ratify and confirm an agreement with the Cherokee Nation of Indians of the Indian MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. Territory, to make appr opriation for carrying out the same, and A message from the Senate, by Mr. PLATT, one of its clerks, for other purposes-to the Committee on Indian Affairs. · 1892. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-'HOUSE. 3401

By Mr. O'NEILL of Pennsylvania: A bill (H. R. 8228) to en­ By Mr. PATTERSON of Tennessee: A bill (H. R. 8257) for able the Centennial Board of Finance, incorporated by an act the relief of S. L. Carpenter, of Fayette County, Tenn.-to the approved June 1, 1872, to close its affairs and dissolving said cor­ Committee on Claims. poration-to the Committee on the Judiciary. By Mr. BUCHANAN of New Jersey: A resolution to print 5,000 copies of the proceedings attendent upon the formal pre­ PETITIONS, ETC. sentation of the monument at Yorktown, Va.-to the Committee Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, the following petitions and pa- vn Printing. pers were laid on the Clerk's desk and referred as follows: · By Mr. ALLEN: Papers in the claim of Alice C. S. Banks, of Mississippi-to the Committee on War Claims. PRIVATE BILLS, ETC. By Mr. ARNOLD: Petition of citizens of Pemiecot County, Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, private bills of the following Mo., a~ainst passage of the Brosius lard bill, H. R. 395-to the titles were presented and referred as.indicated below: Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. BUTLER: A bill (H. R. 8229) for the relief of Mathias Also, resolutions of St. Louis Merchants' Exchange, with re­ Pedersen-to the Committee on War Claims. gard to ocean mail service-to the Committee on. Interstate and By Mr. CATE: A bill (H. R. 8230) for the relief of Louis G. Foreign Commerce. Sanderson, of Craighead County, Ark.-to the Committee on Also, petition by the same exchange, in relation to 1-cent Pensions. stamps-to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post-Roads. By Mr. CATCHINGS: A bill (H. R. 8231) for the relief of Aquilla By Mr. BRETZ:-Petition of the pastor and members of the Bowie, of Warren County, Miss.-to the Committee on War Christian Church of Washington, Ind., against opening the Claims. World'sFairon Sunday-to the SelectCommittee on the Colum­ 1\..lso, a bill (H. R. 8232) for the relief of Mary Ann Nagle, widow bian Exposition. vfThomas K. Jones, of Warren County, Miss.-to the Committee By Mr. BROOKSHIRE: Petition of J. C. Linn and 30 others, on War Claims. citizens of Vermillion County, Ind., praying for the passage of a By Mr. CLANCY: A bill (H. R. 8233) for the relief of William law to regulate speculation in fictitious farm products-to the Noon, of Seventh United States regulars--to the Committee on Committee on Agriculture. Invalid Pensions. By Mr. BROSIUS: Petition of Presbyterian Church of Mari­ By Mr. COOMBS: A bill (H. R. 8234) to increase the pension etta, Pa., against opening the World's Fair on Sunday or selling of David Parker-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. liquor on the grounds-to the Select Committee on the Colum­ By Mr. DALZELL: A bill (H. R. 8235) for the relief of James bian Exposition. B. Hill-to the Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. CATE: Petition of Arkansas Conference of the Meth­ Also. a bill (H. R. 8236) for the relief of the officers and crews odist Episcopal Church South, against opening the World's Fair of the ·rams Lioness, T. D. Horner, Dick Fulton, Mingo, and on Sunday-to the Select Committee on the Columbian Exposi­ Sampson-to the Committee on War Claims. tion. By Mr. FYAN: A bill (H. R. 8237) to pension Abram Harges, By Mr. DALZELL: Petition of sundry citizens of Allegh~ny late a soldier of the Seminole war-to the Committee on Pensions. County, Pa., in favor of an amendment to the Constitution to pro­ By Mr. GANTZ: A bill (H. R. 8238) :correcting the military hibit any State from passing laws for the establishment of re­ record of and granting an honorable discharge to Harmon Trupp, ligion-to the Committee on the Judiciary. - . William Wardle, Louis Wells, and Charles Gillespie-to the By Mr. DINGLEY: Petition ofex-soldiersand sailorsofSedg­ Committee on Military Affairs. wick Post, No. 4, Grand Army of the Republic, of Maine, fo:r By Mr. HEARD: A bill (H. R. 8239) granting a pension to properly marking the battle lines at Gettysburg-to the Com­ Sarah M. Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on Military Affairs. By Mr. HOLMAN: A bill (H. R. 8240) for the relief of Mrs. Also, petition of citizens of Oxford County, Me., in favor of Mary H. Facemire-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the passage of House bill 5353, commonly known as the option By Mr. HULL: A bill (H. R. 8241) granting a pension to Wil­ bill-to the Committee on Agriculture. liam Oscar Stanley-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. DOLLIVER: Petition of Eugene Tellier and W. H. By Mr. KRIBBS: A bill (H. R. 824.2) granting a pension to Dorward, for the support of the bill for the preference of ex­ George Van Vliet-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Union soldiers in the civil service-to the Select Committee on By Mr. McKAIG: A bill (H. R. 8243) for the relief of Elizabeth Reform in the Civil Service. Bragonier, of Washington County, Md.-to the Committee on By Mr. ENLOE: Two petitions of citizens of Tennessee, one Military Affairs. of Madison County and the other of Carroll, remonstrating By Mr. McCREARY: A bill (H. R. 8244) for the relief of the against the passage of the Brosius (or Conger) lard bill (H. R. board of commissioners of the sinking fund of the county court 395)-to the Committee on Agricuiture. of Madison County, Ky.-to the Committee on Claims. Also, petition of W. E. McDougal and others, praying for the By Mr. O'NEILL of Missouri: A bill (H. R. 8245) for the re­ relief of James Anderson, of Savannah, Tenn.-to the Commit­ lief of the heirs of William H. Finch-to the Committee on ~eon War Claims. . War Claims. Also, petition of William Gwinn, of Hardin County, Tenn., for By Mr. PAGE of Rhode Island: A bill (H. R. 82-4:6) granting a reference of his claim to the Court of Claims-to the Committee pension to Bridget Brennan, widow of Thomas Brennan, late of on War Claims. Companies C and G, Second Regiment, Rhode Island Volun­ By Mr. ENGLISH: Petition of Charles A. Colton, director teers-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. of the Newark Technical School, Newark, N.J., for the exclu­ By Mr. STEVENS: A bill (H. R. 8247) granting a pension to sive use of the metric system of weights and measures-to the Mary Gilmartin-to the Committee on Pensions. Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measuras. Alt;o, a bill (H. R. 8248) granting a pension to Elizabeth H. By Mr. FUNSTON: Three petitionsofGreenwoodGrange, No. Adams-to the Committee on Pensions. 1087, of Kansas, one for the passage of a bill to prevent the adul­ Also, a bill (H.R. 8249)granting a pension toJohnH. Quimby- teration of food, the secJnd for the encouragement of silk culture, to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · and the third to prevent gambling in farm products-to the Com­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8250) granting a pension to Annie C. Brack­ mittee on Agriculture. ett--to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, petition by the same grange, for the passage of a law to Also, a bill (H. R. 8251) for the removal of the charge of de­ prohibit contracts discrediting legal-tender currency-to the sertion from the record of Patrick McGarvy-to the Committee Committee on Agriculture. on Military Affairs. Also, petition by the same grange, to prevent the adulteration By Mr. STONE of Kentucky: A bill (H. R. 8252) for the relief of lard-to the Committea on Agriculture. of David H. Hildebrand, of Shelby County, Tenn., as found due Also, petition of the Unit3d Presbyterian Church and Sabbath by the Court of Claims under the act of March 3, 1883-to the school, of Johnson County, Kans., in favor of observing the Sab­ C{lmmittee on War Claims. bath by the World's Fair-to the Select Committee on the Co­ By Mr. TUCKER (by request): A bill(H.R.8253) fortherelief lumbian Exposition. of Robert A. McGinnity-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, petition by the same grange, for free delivery of mails By Mr. WHEELER of Alabama: A bill (H. R. 8254) to reim­ in rural districts-to the Committee on Agriculture. burse the trustees of the Cumberland Presbyterian Church, of Also, petition of citizens of Scranton, Kans., for a sixteenth Athens, Limestone County, Ala.-to the Committee on War amendment to the Constitution-to the Committee on the Ju­ Claims. diciary. Also, a bill (H. R. 8255) for the relief of R. W. Woody-to tho Also, petition of citizens of Lawrence, Kans., for increase of Committee on War Claims. · a:ppropriations for Haskell Institute-to the Committee on In- By Mr. WILLIAMS of Illinois: A bill (H. R. 8256) for there­ dian Affairs. · lief of Benjamin F. Gullic-to the Committee on Claims. By Mr. GRISWOLD: Four petitions of granges of Pennsyl- ,.

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vania. as follows: Two of Harbor Creek Grange, No. 385, one to Columbian Exposition on Sunday-to the S3lect Committee on

prevent gambling in farm products1 and the other, Mill Village the Columbian Exposition. Grange, No. 131, to encourage silk culture, and two of Mill Vil­ By Mr. NEWBERRY: Petition from Chicago, Ill., asking that • lage Grange, No. 131, for the same-to the Committee on Agri­ the Columbian Exposition be closed on Sunday-to the Select cul ture. Committee on the Columbian Exposition. Also, two petitions by the same granges, for the passaga of Also, petition from Chicago, to amend the Constitution-to the House bill 395, defining lard and imposing a tax thereon-to the Committee on the Judiciary. Committao on Ways and Means. • By Mr. OTIS: Two petitions of citizens of Kansas, one of 159 Also, two petitions of the same granges, for free delivery of citizens of Topeka, and the other of 224 citizens of EskriCi.ge, ask­ rural mails-to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post- ing for the prevention of the sale of all intoxicating liquors at Roads. · the Soldier's Home at Leavenworth, Kans.-to the . Committee Also, p3tition by Harbor Grange, to prohibit contracts ~s­ on Military Affairs. crediting legal-tender currency-t{) the Committee on Bankmg Also, petition of the Methodist Episcopal Church ·of Oakland, and Currency. Shawnee County, Kans., to have all liquor licenses repealed in Also, petition of citizens of Crawford County, Pa., for free de­ the District of Columbia and liquor banished from the national livery of mails:_to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post­ capital-to the Committee on the District of Columbia. Roads. Also, petition of citizens of Waverly and 295 members of Also petition of citizens of Erie County, Pa., fa-voring fre'e Waverly Presbyterian Church, Kansas, asking that the Colum­ delivery of mail-to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post­ bian Exposition grounds be closed on Sunday-to the Select Roads. Committee on the Columbian Exposition. By Mr. RIFE: Petition of Robert Fry, of Spring Township, By Mr. HALVORSON: Two petitions, one of D. Huntley and Perry County, Pa., for a special act granting him a pension-to 13 others. of Hancock, Stevens County, Minn., and the other, of the Committee on Invalid Pensions. F. P. Marshall and 10 members of Seventh-Day Adventists, of By Mr. SCULL: Memorial of citizens of Altoona, Pa.., protest­ Fair Haven, Stevens County, protesting against the passage of ing against the passage of House bill 4843, r estricting interstate any bill closing the World•s Columbian Exposition on Sunday­ commerce in oleomargarine-to the Committee on Ageicul­ to the Select Committee on the Columbian Exposition. ture. Also, petition of ex-soldiers and sailors of W.W.PrestonPost, Also~ petition of citizens of Bloomington ill., for 1-cent let­ No. 145, Grand Army of the Republic, Department of Minnesota., ter postage-to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post-Roads. for preserving and marking the battle lines at Gettysburg-to By Mr. SPRINGER: Petition of the board of suparvisors of the Committee on Military Affairs. Christian County, Ill., in favor of House bill 5982, in regard to Also, petition of John Emmerson and 48 others, of Center­ swamp land-to the Committee on the Public Ll.nd.s. Church, S Juth Center County, Minn., in opposition to a union of Also, petition of John Dunn, of illinois Central Railroad Com­ relirrion and the state-to the Committee on the Judiciary. pany, against the abolition of the Bureau of American Repulr By Mr. HARE: Petition of Findlay College, Ohio, in relation lies-to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. to management of the World's Fair-to the Select Committee on By Mr. STEVENS: Petition of the First Baptist Church. the Columbian Exposition. Winter Hill Congregational Church, the Broa!l way Methodist By Mr. HEARD: Petition of HarrisonA. GlennPost.No.512, Episcopal Church, and the Broadway Congregational Church, Grand Army of the Republic, of Missouri, in favor of the passage all of Somerville, Mass., and 21 citizens of Clinton, Mass.~ pro­ of a law providing for batter marking the battle lines at Gettys­ testing against the opening on Sunday of any exhibition or ex­ burg battlefield-to the Committee on Military Affairs. position where the United States funds are expended-to the By Mr. HENDERSON of Iowa: Petition of 57 citizens of the Select Committee on the Columbian Exposition. Third district of Iowa, against indiscriminate and excessive im­ Also, petition of Patrick McGary, for removal of the charge of migration to this country and the importation of Chinese-to the desertion-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Select Committee on Immigration and Naturalization. Also, papers to accompany House bill granting a. pension to Also, resolutions of the Business Men's Association, Daven­ MaryGilmartin-to the Committee on P ensions. port, Iowa, favoring liberal appropriations for the United States Also, papers to accompany House bill granting a. pension to Weather Bureau-to the Committee on Agriculture. Elizabeth H. Adams-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, petition of 59 citizens of the Third district of Iowa, ask­ Also, papers to accompany House bill granting a pension to : ing for an investigation of the occupations~ earnings, sanitary Annie C. Brockett-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. conditions, and methods of livin~ of the poor in large cities-to Also. papers to accompany House bill granting a pension to the Committee on Labor. John H. Quimby-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Al::>o. resolutions of Johnson Division,No.67,0rderofRailway By Mr. STEWART of Texas: Memorial of the State of Texas, Conductora, Waterloo, Iowa, favoring the Henderson, George asking for a harbor of refuge on the coast of Florida-to the Com­ Milliken or other similar bills, and referring to other matters mittee on Rivers and Harbors. connected with the safe,.ty of trainmen-to the Committee on In­ , By Mr. STORER: Petition of the Evangelical Alliance of Cin­ terstate and Foreign Commerce. cinnati, aO'ainst opening the World's Fair at Chicago on Sunday­ By Mr. HOOKER of New York. Petition of ex-soldiers and to the Select Committee on the Columbian Exposition. sailors of Seth B. Weed Post, No. 296, Grand Army of theRe­ Also, petition of the United States Printing Company, of Cin­ public, Department of New York, for preserving and properly cinnati, praying for the passage of House bill 574, known as the marking the battle lines of Gettysburg, Pa.-to the Committee trade-mark bill-to the Committee on Patents. on Military Affairs. By Mr. TOWNSEND: Petition of W. T. Sherman Post, No. By Mr. JOHNSON of Ohio: Petition against the passage of 23, Grand Army of the Republic, department of Colorado and House bill 4843, to limit the effect of the regulations of commerce Wyoming, for legislation to properly mark the battle lines at between the Federal States and foreign courttries in certain Gettysburg-to the Committee' on :Military Affairs. cases-to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Also, petition of the Ministerial Association of Pueblo, Colo., Also, petition of 46 citizens of Cleveland, Ohio, praying for representing 18 churches, against any appropriation fo r the adoption of an amendment to the Constitution in regard to ra­ World's Fair unless upon condition that the same shall not be ligious matters-to the Select Committee on the Election of Pres­ opened on Sunday, and that the sale of liquor shall be prohibited­ ident, Vice-President, and Representatives in Congress. to the Select Committee on the Columbian Exposition. Also, papers in support of House bill 8063, to relieve Alfred Also, statement and letters to accompany House bill for relief Burgess from charge of desertion-to the Committee on Naval of Charles Schobelka, of Leadville, Colo.-to the Committee on Affairs. Claims. By Mr. JOLLEY: Petition of citizensofHandCounty,S.Dak., By Mr. WEADOCK: Petition of J. C. Harris and others, to prohibit the opening on Sunday of any exhibition or exposi­ against closing the World's Columbian Exposition on Sunday­ tion where Ullited States funds are expended-to the Select Com­ to the Select Committee on the Columbian Exposition. / mittee on the Columbian Exposition. By Mr. WALKER: Petition of the National Woman's Chris­ By Mr. LANE: Two petitions of citizens of Shelby, ill., in favor tian Temperance Union, asking that no exposition for which ap­ of Washburn-Hatch bills-to the Committee on Agriculture. propriations are made by Congress shall be opened on Sunday­ By Mr. McCLELLAN: Petition of Margaret Lamont, wldow to the Select Committee on the Columbian Exposition. of Adolphus Lamont, for an increase of pension, to accompany By Mr. WHEELER of Alabama: Papers in the claim of Oak­ House bill 8212-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ley H. Bynum, of Lawrence County, Ala.-to the Committee on By Mr. MILLIKEN: Petition of S. P. Baker and others, for War Claims. the passage of a. bill to mark battle lines at Gettysburg-to the By Mr. WILLIAMS of Illinois: Affidavit of Dr. B. F. Nayman, Committee on Military Affairs. . in the matter of Aford Faulkner, for relief-to the Committee on Also, petition of Susan Wentworth and_others, for closmg the Invalid Pensions.