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‘Traveling on Hospitality’: Andrew Young remembers life on the road toward civil rights Episode number: 305 Date Released: February 8, 2021 Episode 305 Transcript - 1 - © 2021 Long Live Lodging Andrew Young: During the Civil Rights Movement, there were no hotels in these small Southern towns where you could stay. But everybody, if they had an extra bed or a couch, you were welcome. People did not charge you for that. You gave them money if you had it. But those of us in the Civil Rights Movement who had little or no money, we got our room and board as a gift from the community. Announcer: This is the Lodging Leaders podcast with Jon Albano and Judy Maxwell session number 305. Welcome to the Lodging Leaders podcast, where top-performing hoteliers and hospitality industry experts share powerful insights and actionable advice to help you grow your portfolio. And now your host, Judy Maxwell. Judy Maxwell: Hi, Everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in today. You can find the expanded multimedia report for this episode at LodgingLeaders.com/305. Traveling on Hospitality: Andrew Young, remembers life on the road towards civil rights. This is the second installment of Long Live Lodging's special project for Black History Month that looks at how the hospitality industry impacted the Civil Rights Movement in the middle of the 20th century. Today, we feature Andrew Young Jr., an icon of civil rights in America and around the world. Young, who will turn 89 years old on March 12th, has led a storied life. Beginning his career in the mid-1950s as a Baptist minister in Georgia, he went on to become executive director of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and a civil rights activist alongside the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He served as a U.S. Congressman, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and mayor of Atlanta. He has a lot to talk about for sure. But in this episode we asked him simply to share his experiences while traveling with the Rev. Dr. King throughout the South to spread the gospel of racial equality. I want to pause here to thank you, our followers, for your support of our regular programming, amid the business and professional challenges of the past 12 months. This year, as the hotel industry works to emerge from the coronavirus crisis and its leaders face the challenge of building a more equitable and inclusive environment that generously upholds the ideals of hospitality toward all, we encourage you to strengthen your support of our mission by becoming a Lodging Leaders subscriber. It's free to subscribe and you can take that step by visiting lodgingleaders.com/subscribe. If your B2B enterprise serves the hospitality industry, consider coming on board as a sponsor. We have many different ways we can help you tell the story of your company, product or service. To learn more, check out our 2021 media kit at longlivelodging.com/media-kit. Now back to our report. I met Ambassador Young in February 2019 during the Hyatt Regency Atlanta's Heritage Celebration. We were introduced by Davonne Reaves, who began her hospitality career at the front desk of the Hyatt Regency. Today she owns The Vonne Group, a hospitality consulting business. And recently she bought her first hotel. Davonne is 33 and has known Young for more than a decade. She met him when volunteering for the Trumpet Awards, an annual program that recognizes African-American achievements in television, music, film politics and the arts. Episode 305 Transcript - 2 - © 2021 Long Live Lodging Founder of the awards program is Xernona Clayton, a civil rights activist as well as an executive with Turner Broadcasting in Atlanta. Reaves was assigned to escort Young and his wife, Carolyn. The Trumpet Awards advanced team gave her some information about him, but not enough to help her realize his significance to American history. Davonne Reaves: I was a volunteer at the time. And so my job as the handler was to work with the VIPs and I was assigned to Ambassador Young and his wife, Carolyn. When I met the ambassador, I didn't know who he was. They sent you pictures and they told you a little bit about them, but I really didn't understand the impact of him. And so we were eating at a restaurant. So many people kept walking up to him to meet him. And so I had to like sneak and I text my dad. "Daddy, I'm sitting here with Ambassador Andrew Young but I don't know who he is." And my dad basically went off. "What is wrong with you? You do not know who Ambassador Andrew Young is? Are you kidding me? That's how you're able to work with that hotel. When you get finished, your assignment is to study him." So ever since then, the lesson there is when you're meeting with people, you do your research, you know who you're meeting with. Judy Maxwell: Reaves has grown close to Young and his family. Recently, she and Uncle Andy, as she calls him, got to talking about hotels when Reaves told him she had recently invested in a property and made some history of her own. He began to reminisce about the places he stayed when traveling as a preacher and then as a civil rights activist. So here we are today, sharing Andrew Young's recollections of the Black guest experience as a road warrior with a cause in the segregated South, Andrew Young: I started in the civil rights movement, probably in 1954. I was a pastor in South Georgia in Thomasville and Beachton. One of the first hotels I remember going to had no sheet rock on the wall. It had a bed and a wash pan. It looked like something out of a, you know, Western movie, uh, very rough, but I was tired so I slept well. Everything was rigidly segregated then. So this was a black-owned, black-operated rooming house. That was typical of our stays in the early days. But for the most part, we didn't stay in professional lodging because there was none. But there was almost an unwritten rule that everybody who had a home had a guest room that they made available for anybody passing through. Now the classic of that was owned by Amelia Boynton in Selma. I think everybody stayed at Amelia Boynton's, from George Washington Carver, Langston Hughes, Martin Luther King, Ralph Bunche, me. And, um, during the Civil Rights Movement, there were no hotels in these small Southern towns where you could stay. But everybody, if they had an extra bed or a couch, you were welcome. I slept on the floor in sleeping bags. I remember a couple of very hard iron army beds with little thin mattresses on them. But, um, beggars could not be choosers. And usually people did not charge you for that. You gave them money if you had it. But those of us in the Civil Rights Movement who had little or no money, we got our room and board as a gift from the community. Episode 305 Transcript - 3 - © 2021 Long Live Lodging Judy Maxwell: The year before the Rev. Dr. King's death, architect John Portman completed the construction of the landmark Hyatt Regency Atlanta. It opened up a whole new world to the Atlanta business community. Andrew Young: After desegregation, after the Civil Rights Bill passed, then we quite often stayed in the, there was usually one hotel in town that had a liberal reputation. Here in Atlanta I think it was the Hilton out at the airport. That was the first that I remember until John Portman built the Hyatt Regency. We desegregated that. That it was amazing to me that that hotel began the civil rights convention era. That when you had big hotels like that accepting Black people, we came in droves. I think the first three weeks that that hotel was open in '67 were the Bronner Brothers, ah, Beauty Show. And there was a disc jockeys convention. And then Martin Luther King's SCLC convention. So it was Black conventions that filled those hotels and made Atlanta an attractive place for, I think it was the Black organizations that established the tradition of Atlanta as a convention business, a convention city. I remember when, I wasn't mayor, but I was congressman or something, and there was a conference of 20,000 bankers and they wanted to turn down 50,000 Baptists. And I said that I guarantee you, the Baptist will outspend the bankers any day. And that we do have enough hotels if all of them open up. And I think the bankers took one hotel, one or two downtown hotels, but everybody everywhere, all the other smaller hotels were taken up by the Baptists. And it was clear that this was the only time that most of these Baptists, especially the women, were going to be leaving town and they brought all their spending money and shopping money. The same thing with the sororities and fraternities. Delta Sigma Theta had 40,000 black women, mostly professional women, who came to Atlanta and they literally bought everything out of Saks and Neiman Marcus. And, uh, they couldn't open up Monday morning after they left. They were there for a week and they had to close the stores Monday to give them time to get restocked. Judy Maxwell: The economic might of black travelers was recently highlighted by MMGY Global.