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AUTUMN NEWSLETTER 2014

Issue No. 169

INSIDE Future Events...... page 4 Simon Says! Stale Fuel Warning...... page 5 Clare Hay Visit...... page 6 Gregor Rusden Report...... page 7 Some Thoughts on 30-98 Vauxhall v 3 Litre Bentley.....page 10 New Regulations for Historic Club Permeits in Victoria....page 12 In Remembrance...... page 15 The Wonders of Modern Technology...... page 16 The Bentley from Bhavnagar...... page 18 Chassis 246 Sentimental “Reunion”...... page 22

The Bentley Drivers Club of Australia Inc. founded in 1956 Autumn Newsletter 2014 From the Secretary My thanks go to our contributors to this issue, especially John Lawson for his great report on the Gregor Rusden Run, to Simon Elliott for his technical titbits, to Peter Crauford who is in the very fortunate Founded in 1956 position of owning both a 3 litre Bentley and a 30/98 Vauxhall, and to the Editor of The Automobile for the article by Dennis Harrison on the Committee 2014/2015 ex-Rainsford 6 ½ litre.

President: Barry Batagol Photos were generously supplied by Karen Holland, Wayne (03) 8663 7555 (BH) Fitzgerald, Elizabeth Crauford, Christine and Tony Johns, Michael Hood, [email protected] Darryl Stanisich, John Lackey and Ian Bruce. We would have a slim issue Secretary: Phil Schudmak without them! 0412 560 563 [email protected] Rod Amos of the VSCC has been doing a wonderful job trying to get the new technical regulations sorted for the cars on the Victorian Club Treasurer: Tony Johns Permit scheme. This has been a very long and difficult task and we hope it 0419 009 898 will come to a successful conclusion very soon. We all owe Rod our thanks [email protected] for his time, skill and persistence. I’ve given a report on where we thought Newsletter Editor: Vacant we were a month or so ago, but we are still awaiting an official go-ahead from Vicroads. Webmaster: Wayne Fitzgerald 0419 774 949 I have given an up-date on The Book on page 6. Clare Hay and Bob ZD\QHBÀW]#ELJSRQGFRP Watson have now largely completed writing the text for their contributions &OXE3HUPLW2IÀFHU 3KLO6FKXGPDN on the history and Clare did further research during her recent visit. She 0412 560 563 has an enormous capacity for hard work and is blessed with a photographic memory. She can tell you the history, chassis and engine number of almost Tony Johns any vintage Bentley from 20 paces. Quite remarkable. Progress has slowed 0419 009 898 a little recently while Tony Johns, our joint chief co-ordinator, is absent on Commitee Members: Des Dillon a prolonged European jaunt. Much work still has to be done in identifying John McQuay and cataloguing hundreds of photos, as well as getting everything prepared Gary McMillan sorted for pre-publication, which could still be a year away. Simon Elliott Wayne Fitzgerald Happy motoring, Rod Hanson Darryl Stanisich

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...... page 4 ...... FrontFr Cover: ...... page 5 ...... INSIDE rning. Future Events...... Simon Says! Stale Fuel Wa Clare Hay Visit...... page....page 6 15 Gregor Rusden Report...... page...... 7 Some Thoughts on 30-98 Vauxhall v 3 Litre Bentley.....page..page 10 18 GreatG Bentley driving in western Gippsland on the ...... page 22 New Regulations for Historic Club Permeits in Victoria....page...... 12 In Remembrance...... The Wonders of Modern Technology...... page 16 The Bentley from Bhavnagar rroad to Jinks Creek (photo: Wayne Fitzgerald) Chassis 246 Sentimental “Reunion”...... Autumn Newsletter 2014

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2 %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ A note from the president his 4 ½ to other members and last year lent his gearbox to John McQuay who was heading off to the UK for an extended tour. John could not get his gearbox repaired in time, so Clive’s 4 ½ sat in his garage immobile for many months until John returned it, (apparently after a bit of TLC to return it to “as new” condition).

As Clive Smith could not attend at Jinks Creek, we had a good excuse to arrange a run to Mt Macedon the following month for a drink at Clive and Carolyn’s house followed by lunch at the Mt Macedon pub. This was an enjoyable drive with a slow foggy drive across the mountain in an atmosphere that could have very well been in the UK. Thank you John McQuay for the organization, and especially to Clive and Carolyn for their generous hospitality.

During Clare Hay’s visit in April to further work on “our Book” we arranged a very pleasant dinner and chat session in Carlton and it was a rare privilege to have someone of such international stature available for our questions and discussions. Clare’s knowledge about WO’s is unequalled in it detail and breadth and everyone had a thoroughly enjoyable and informative evening, Thank you Wayne Fitzgerald for the organising. Greetings all, Several members are overseas currently with their WO’s Well the year is already almost half done and I hope you including the Johns, McMillan’s, Peter Graham and Jenny have all been enjoying your WO in a way that gives pleasure Lebens. We look forward to hearing all about the “Europe to you and yours which should not be a difficult task. by Bentley Rally” on their return.

I certainly have been getting more than my fair share of A future special event is the Graeme Miller Trophy award enjoyment in our Speed Six. My personal highlight was to be presented at Jimmy Watson’s on July 10, which is a the privilege of being invited to run the car at this year’s most appropriate venue as Graeme was an enthusiastic and Australian Grand Prix Historic Demonstration held at the regular patron. challenging and exciting Albert Park circuit. The Speed Six A Technical Workshop will be held at the Works was certainly the largest car on the track but she was not with a BBQ lunch on June 14 which is a new type of the slowest. There was a great deal of interest shown by the event for us and will hopefully follow the successful UK public in the car at the Historic Demonstration garages examples. Thank you Simon and to Gary McMillan, who where it was one of the most popular attractions, no has promised to man the BBQ. doubt because of its sheer size compared to the other more modern race cars. Plans are well under way with the route planning for both the BDC of WA “Great Drive” to Port Douglas during We have had some interesting events in Victoria which April/May 2015 and the National Rally to Albany in have been well supported. WA on 16 Oct to 3 Nov this year. The National Rally is It was our turn to organize the annual Gregor Rusden being well supported by our members many of whom are event which is run in conjunction with the Delage Club. returning to the east via the Nullarbor, which I think is We managed to find some wonderfully uncrowded roads in quite impressive. South Gippsland, which were new to many of the entrants, all of whom enjoyed a casual drink and lunch at the Jinks Finally the Newsletter is being again managed by Phil Creek Winery destination. Schudmak who would welcome articles and photos of interest from our members, so please don’t be shy. Thank The Gregor Rusden Trophy is awarded to a club member you Phil who performs an act of generosity or “clubmanship” and was awarded this year to Clive Smith. Clive has often lent Hope to see you on the road in your WO. Barry Batagol

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ3 FUTURE EVENTS 2014 Saturday, June 14th 7HFKZRUNVKRSDQG%%4DW7KH'HUE\:RUNV Thursday, July 10th *UDHPH0LOOHU$ZDUGSUHVHQWDWLRQDQGGLQQHUDW-LPP\:DWVRQ·V Carlton. Sunday, August 17th VSCC Rob Roy Hillclimb and breakfast Sunday, September 7th Annual General Meeting and lunch September, 19th to 24th *HRUJH*UHHQDQG96&&$OSLQH5DOOLHV :DJJD October 21st to November National Bentley Rally, Perth and SW of Western Australia, 11th and return via the Nullarbor. Sunday, November 16th 3XU6DQJ5XQ WREHFRQÀUPHG 2015 April 18th - May 12th “The Great Aussie Bentley Drive”: Melbourne to Port Douglas, Queensland – organised by the BDCWA. 28 days, 5400km. Contact Michael Hood. Phone (08) 9386 2999, or [email protected].

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Some years ago the BDC in the UK New Bentley Blazers supplied special fabric in traditional club colours to be made into rather smart blazers by your favourite tailor. This material has been out of stock for some years and we are told they do not have any plans for it to be remade.

Our friends in the BDC of WA (many of whom are also members of ours) managed to buy the last bolt of this fabric from the UK and had it made up into blazers and waistcoats. However, this has also been sold out for some years and they are looking to have some more made to special order.

They will need to know how much to order. If you are at all interested, please contact Michael Hood, the Secretary of the BDC of WA at 08 9386 2999 or at michael@ hoodpropertygroup.com.au. He will be happy to give you an estimate of costings and all the other details.

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ SIMON SAYS! Stale fuel warning: green and had also hampered the 91 octane) fouling the plugs without float needle and operation whilst any visible evidence. He therefore If you haven’t used your car for three the build up on the jets caused lean suggested I get a new set, which I did. months or so, don’t just jump in and running and stalling issues. Problem fixed. And I’ve just added drive it, otherwise you may well end some POR15 Fuel Stabilizer to the up in tears. We’re all aware of just how My advice: use additives, avoid petrol tank. unstable modern fuels are, but the ethanol fuels and consider draining surprising thing is how quickly the your tank if the car is to be laid up fuels can go off and break up, leaving for more than a couple of months. deposits in your tank and gumming I would also switch the fuel off and up fuel lines and carburettors in the run the engine until it uses up the fuel process. (Note the photo to the right in the bowl. This will help to avoid showing nasty deposits on an in-tank having to pull carbies and vac tank fuel filter.) The amount of labour and apart, as I had to recently with a car expense involved in rectifying the that had been sitting for damage caused is easy to imagine. 4 or 5 months. It is prudent to add fuel preservative to your tank as a safeguard if you are The other item worth considering is using your Bentley infrequently. I have to seal your fuel tank and vac tank always used POR15 “Fuel Stabilizer internal surfaces with POR tank & Preservative” from the U.S, but sealer. I have found that – if applied possibly it’s no longer available here. correctly – this is an excellent product Eastwood’s Fuel Guard, another U.S and stops any corrosion on the inner product is available and I’m sure that surfaces of a fuel tank. there are several other available Simon Elliott as well (“Sta –Bil” is one). This really is a situation where you should always PS The Editor had a similar err on the side of caution. experience recently with modern fuel which might be of interest to Ethanol fuels are an even bigger members. I have a 1956 Jeep which problem. I have had experience where doesn’t get as much use as it should, fuel was left in the tank for 18 months but it’s in very good order and had or so, causing significant corrosion been running well, until recently, problems, particularly where fuel when it became very difficult to start meets air. Recently I had a car in or run reliably. Starting became more with vac tank problems. The unit had and more difficult and eventually I had been reconditioned and was working to call the RACV. He gave up after very well as recently as two years almost an hour of thorough checking. ago. However I discovered that the The spark plugs were fairly new and valve at the bottom of the chamber looked in good condition, but he had had gummed up. On a Rolls-Royce not been able to check them properley. carburettor, I found that stale fuel He had come across several examples had turned the needle and jet tubes of modern fuel (mainly “standard”

State Secretaries:

New South Wales: Syd Reinhardt Ph 0418 180 418 Queensland: Adrian Cook Ph 0418 726 272 South Australia: Ed Harris Ph (08) 8331 8609 Western Australia: Trevor Eastwood Ph 08 9226 5626 New Zealand: Peter Morelli Ph +61 21 676 278 Return Visit from Clare Hay

Dr. Clare Hay, our distinguished in Tasmania, which surprised many of include as much interesting material English vintage Bentley authority and the local vintage chaps. This number as we can, and we need to get it right. co-author of our “Vintage Bentleys in doesn’t include Chester’s more Hence, I’d say that we are at least six Australia” book, made a very welcome recently arrived 3 litre, which is now months away from “hand over”. return visit in April and spent ten the sole representative. days with us doing further research We will be trying to fill in these gaps in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth. Wayne Fitzgerald organised a in the next few months and we will Clare was particularly pleased to be most enjoyable dinner at La Notte be in contact with those owners and able to spend several hours with Ed restaurant in Carlton for members to former owners asking for their help. Harris in Adelaide. Much of the text meet and chat with Clare. Members In the meantime, all those who have from Clare and Bob Watson (who has and their partners included Allan promised to get on to it to do so! done the more recent history) is now Watson, Gary McMillan, Ron Elsbury, nearing completion, subject to editing Gary Grant, Kim Graves, Lyn Miller, Phil Schudmak and space considerations, but we still Barry Batagol, Peter Willcox, Stuart have much work to do in sorting and Murdoch, Trevor Montgomery, Tony selecting photographs, and putting the Johns and Phil Schudmak. whole thing together. A couple of days later, Clare joined us I don’t think that we’ve “discovered” a and the Delage Club on the annual new car for well over 12 months (the Gregor Rusden Run, which was also current count is about 160), but we very well attended and John Lawson have uncovered a great deal of very had kindly reported on later in this interesting new detail on the cars Newsletter. already on file. The story later in this Newsletter about Mick Young’s Speed We had hoped that within the next Six is a case in point. few weeks the final copy for the book would be going to Paul Latham and We are lucky to have both Chester Rod Gilbert for their layout and McKaige and Bruce Lindsay resident design work, and eventually printing. in the Apple Isle and keen to fill in However, we are not nearly ready for some of the gaps. We now know that this. As we are often told, we will only at least seven WO’s spent long periods have one shot at it, and we should From the Archives:

Clive Smith's 4 ½ and Peter Briggs' 4 ½ Blower at the 6 %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ Australian Grand Prix 1997 Making Merry amongst the Moo-Cows

in West Gippsland By John Lawson

In sympathy with Gregor Rusden, Clive’s tuning powers) and driven by In all, a total of 11 Bentleys, which Phil Schudmak’s car preferences cross Tony Johns and Christine, arrived prompted Tony Johns to comment the English Channel. This year’s rally with Allan and Jill Powney in the on the comparative dearth of Delage in Gregor’s memory, through the back seat, who survived a steady entries – the reverse of the 2013 event Strzeleckis on 6 April, provided an blast of autumn fresh air. Lawrence through the Wombat Ranges. excellent opportunity for both Bentley Southward and daughter Chee looked What comes around goes around. and Delage to strut their stuff. relaxed in his 4 1/2, one of the very first to come off the Cricklewood ON THE ROAD Appropriately in this bovine production line. Allan and Judy region the first cars to arrive at the Watson were giving their 4 litre an Confusion reigned amongst the faint- Caldermeade Dairy/Coffee Shop airing, with Lyn Miller acting as hearted soon after the start when the belonged to two lads who grew up support crew. Other unmolested Shell garage appeared on the right. milking cows and feeding calves. Des camions le moins vite included those A few sticklers for correctness turned Dillon in his Boxster and John Lawson of Phillip and Tina Ironside, Wayne around and indeed motored past it in the Le Mans D6/70 Coupé. In Fitzgerald and that stickler for British on their left sides. However, in the recognition of Phil’s other great love, rectitude Peter Willcox and Suzanne. end they chose to pay homage to Gerald Swinnerton also started the The New Zealanders have now created MacDonald. We roared past day in a Boxster. a successful 4-cylinder Bentley block them waving. and these (usually in combination Des, who’d forgotten about the end with a modern crank) are increasingly MacDonald’s Track was the main of daylight saving, arrived early for being used to replace damaged original 19th Century route to Gippsland. breakfast, explaining that the Bentley items in both 3 and 4½ litre cars. John Constructed for bullock wagons, was on a truck coming from Sydney - and Carol McQuay, Darryl Stanisich drays and horses, it follows the le camion le moins vite sur un camion, and Clare Hay and Phil Schudmak contours. What a pleasure in a pre- to borrow a phrase from Ettore B, the all enjoyed the extra power. war car. Having ridden horses over creator of another of Des’s loves. To round up the field, that other lover these roads – the Back Ridge Road of all things British, Paul and Yao was a particular favourite, I told my Rally route organiser Barry Batagol Latham participated in a very nice 2 navigator Gerald he could throw with Cheryl roared into Caldermeade wheel brake Silver Ghost – a model away his notes and enjoy the ride. in their camion le plus vite – the previously owned by both Des and Speed Six – to be joined later by myself. Des married into his while I For me it brought back memories of the McMillans in their 6½ litre. I’m sold mine to Bill Harrah four day rides through the area with not sure what tag Ettore would have when I got married. fellow horse-loving friends. Generally bestowed on the unblown 4½ litres I would borrow a lively Arab gelding but Clive Smith’s car, running very from an Irish stock and station agent sweetly (as a consequence of the other – Robert Mcquestian. Unfortunately

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ7 Robert didn’t ride Bluey very camions le plus vite represented the at the winery provided an excellent if often as he had a very poor mouth auto equivalents of Blue and Ned noisy opportunity to really catch up necessitating a Hackamore bridle – respectively. I thoroughly enjoyed the in a picturesque setting and leisurely in effect a choker. The first day was challenge of both. We all had smiles manner. Natural reticence and a constant challenge and it often on our faces. modesty of the normal car pack gave ended at the Woolamai racecourse. way to flagrant display in the area I would mount Bluey with a whip The Lang Lang, Poowong, Drouin between the reception centre and the and send him around the track until and Korumburra to Warragul Roads vineyard after a number of Bentley- we achieved a mutual understanding provided ever increasing pleasures. wallahs lined up their beasts. Not – generally after a few circuits. The What one wouldn’t give to run to be outdone, most of the Delages next day to Dave Holland’s place at closed road Targa stages along them! responded – naturally pitting French the mouth of the Powlett River – After a while one forgot about the elegance against the British beasts at a now next door to the desalination double lines and drove line of sight. rakish angle to the four square aspect plant. By then Bluey would be Following John McQuay’s open of the Bentleys. What a contrast! fresh for more tricks so I’d put him Bentley with four up until it blew into the wet sand along the beach to a rear tyre, and pursued up hill and Des Dillon, on his way through the old Wonthaggi coal mine site. down dale by John Sheard and son Drouin had exchanged the Boxster for After camping at Inverloch in a lush in what must be the world’s fastest the Alphonse Hispano. What Delage paddock, Bluey and I would enjoy the DM, added to the pleasure. Even the lacked in quantity it made up for in full length of the Back Ridge Road highway section skirting Drouin was quality. Alan and Jan Reid’s beautiful with gusto and pleasure. My mount enjoyable, as were the final 10km to open D8S, the flame orange D6/70 Le on other occasions was the sturdy hack Jinks Creek Winery. Mans which always draws a crowd, the Ned, who spent his week rounding up Anderson’s elegant boat decked DISS, beef cattle on the Hunter’s property LUNCHEON AND OTHER and Max Foster and Karen Holland’s at Kernot. He was everything Bluey MATTERS lovely DML Tourer. The Sheard DM wasn’t. What he lacked in speed he chose to stay in the carpark. made up for in stamina. I couldn’t Whilst coffee and cakes made a good help reflect that the D6/70 and les start at Caldermeade, the buffet lunch

/HIW$QGUHZ0RUDQ7LQDDQG3KLOLS Right: Peter Willcox, Paul Latham and Clare ,URQVLGHZLWKWKH*UHJRU5XVGHQ7URSK\ Hay - at Jinks Creek winery for lunch.

8 %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ abandoned the DE Tourer ostensibly gems and not wishing to appear too with a broken rear spring after filling ungrateful, I could not help noting it with petrol, whilst ex-President the award should go to somebody who Gerald Swinnerton parked the DIC has used a Delage in historic events to in the garage – the consequence of good effect or restored a significant blown bearings following his travels car. Obviously the Delage fraternity in the mountains. Newly appointed believe the pen is mightier than the Treasurer Gerald Baker, having sword (or the spanner/steering wheel). cleaned up the trophy last year, stayed Perhaps a sign of age and decay! I’m home with his accounts and Angie for the road and Targa is a hell of a lot with her golf trophies. harder than writing an article.

Two awards were presented during the We prefer our social motoring luncheon: events to start with coffee/tea and r ăFGregor Rusden Trophy a friendly catch-up with the day’s was presented this year by the entrants and their cars, followed by Bentley fraternity to Clive Smith, in enjoyable motoring on challenging recognition of his continual generosity and interesting roads, and ending with It was particularly good to catch up in providing fellow Bentley owners a meal, drinks and excited chatter and with Lyn Miller, who had travelled in with major help including the loan stories. A minimum of trial (without convoy with her in-laws Alan and Judy of cars and components such as tedious fact-finding) and a maximum Watson in their 4-litre. Clare Hay, gearboxes to enable them to enjoy of fun motoring help to get the cars the famous Bentley scholar from the events in Australia and overseas. out of their garages. Fortunately, those mother country, was a special guest r ăFOFXMZDSFBUFERobert who participate are not those in the of the Aussie club and was enjoying Benoist Literary Trophy was movement obsessed with insurance herself away from the rigors of unexpectedly awarded by the Delage and car value. recording their stories. Club to John Lawson! - the rather curious trophy features a piston from This Gregor Rusden event certainly High office obviously sits hard with the World Championship-winning filled the bill. Thank you Barry Delage people. Recently elected straight 8, one and a half litre GP and Des. President Courtney Pern and Ros Delage. Having driven one of these John Lawson April 2014

Bentley participants:

Barry & Cheryl Batagol (Speed Six) Allan & Judy Watson (4 litre), with Lyn Miller Gary & Desa McMillan ( 6 ½ litre) Peter &Suzanne Willcox (3 litre) John & Carol McQuay (3 / 4 ½) Philip & Tina Ironside (3 litre) Lawrence & Chee Southward (4 ½) Darryl Stanisich & Clare Hay (3 / 4 ½) Wayne Fitzgerald (3 litre) Phil Schudmak (3 / 4 ½ ) Des Dillon (Hisso Alfonso) Paul & Yao Latham (RR Silver Ghost) Tony & Christine Johns (4 ½ litre) with Allan & Jill Powney

Delage participants:

Fergus & Louise Anderson (DISS) John Lawson & Gerald Swinnerton (D6 70) Max Foster & Karen Holland (DMN) Allan & Janet Reid (D8S) John & Sebastian Sheard (DM) Courtney & Roz Pern (modern)

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ9 Some Thoughts on 30-98 Vauxhall v 3 Litre Bentley.

I read with great interest of the UK together with the much superior different matter! The Bentley brakes road test summary of these two great grunt of the side valve 30-98 certainly are hugely superior to the E type, and cars and I thought that perhaps my results in superb acceleration up to also better than the later 4 wheel OE experience with both these cars may say 50 mph, ( in spite of the much brakes. The Vauxhall is of course a be of interest. higher rear axle ratio of 3 to 1 ) and largely Edwardian design. the impression gained is that as you I currently own a 1928 speed model change into top gear the car gives The E type is very light and is probably 3 litre Bentley with its original VdP a superb deep throated bellow and quite a lot lighter than the Bentley and body ( chassis HT 1642 ) and a 1922 starts to devour the road. Incidentally this together with the larger engine Velox bodied E type 30-98 ( chassis E the exhaust note is deep and quite certainly results in a very lithe and 467 ) and I have previously owned 2 strident, the OE is much sweeter and lively machine. Both bodies are superb OE 30-98’s and a long chassis 3 litre refined in its note and the Bentley in looks and I can not imagine a nicer Bentley (chassis 990, now with possesses a lovely exhaust note, quite looking body than the spidery Velox Dennis Lingane). different to both Vauxhalls. Certainly or the VdP Bentley body. I find both the twin SU carburettors do assist driving very comfortable and I am basing my present thoughts acceleration somewhat. The multi support one’s back very well indeed. then on a very similar car basically plate Vauxhall clutch is just as sweet How a passenger in the back seat of to the 3 litre tested, that is with all as the Bentley leather cone clutch but either car could survive a long journey the late 3 litre modifications – better heavier in operation. is quite beyond me! brakes, large sump, lighter lower geared steering, C type gearbox etc. The handling of both cars is very good The ohc Bentley engine is We are not told the detail of the” indeed, contrary to popular opinion mechanically not as quiet as the side mechanical improvements” the test 3 the E type runs around corners as if on valve Vauxhall in spite of the .048 litre was subjected to, however some rails, whilst the steering is lighter and valve clearance in the side valve 30-98. of my experiences are quite the reverse just as accurate as the Bentley – no Both engines are very flexible but to those stated. I find the Vauxhall doubt greatly aided by the fact that the larger side valve engine clearly is gearbox much easier to change than this 30-98 has 2 wheel brakes and runs superior in this area. It is of course no the C type Bentley box, although it is on beaded edge tyres. So I rate them surprise that the Bentley is better at a shade heavier in action. The greater equal on handling and the Vauxhall the top end of the rev range than the torque at the lower half of the range with nicer steering. Brakes are a E type – and the OE Vauxhall is also

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ better than the E in this regard. The later OE’s with the counter balanced crankshaft are incredibly smooth for a large 4 cylinder and I would think from memory smoother than the 3 litre.

I note in the BDC Review of May 2005 that at the Colingrove Hillclimb a 3 litre ( Gary Rainsford well known early car ) climbed in 59.09 seconds and a 30-98 in 55.74 seconds, the 3 litre time being the fastest up to that time, a little faster even than Neville Webb’s 3 litre time of many years before.

Any comparison today depends so E type. Australia was a huge market Royce Silver Ghost and a 3 litre much on the state of the cars tested, for Vauxhall, greatly assisted by their Bentley. That was many years ago and in their heyday when both were to dynamic agent Boyd Edkins in Sydney, I have not changed my view, and I all purposes standard it was perhaps so it is no surprise that 30-98’s greatly count myself extremely fortunate to different. Bentley Sales Manager outsold 3 litre Bentleys here. Their own examples of all three. Perhaps a A.F.C. Hillstead says that the E type much simpler engine design probably large 6 cylinder Delage and Sunbeam was superior in performance to the greatly contributed to this and so would also be nice! 3 litre and in fact also rates the OE many 30-98’s were sold new to affluent as superior in performance to the graziers who lived far away from major The 3 litre Bentley certainly seems to Four and a half litre, in its standard agents and service centres. Many more me to possess a charm and balance form. Many of the cars today have 3 litres were sold world wide than that the later larger engined Bentleys received quite extensive modifications, 30-98’s, however more than half the 3 somewhat lack. I have always coveted especially Bentleys, Vauxhalls much litres made were in fact lwb standard a twin cam Sunbeam but perhaps the less so, as it is said that increasing the cars which lacked the performanceof complexity would defeat me! The 3 performance impinges to some degree the speed models and probably litre Bentley is pure WO just as the on their smoothness and charm. should be compared more with the 30-98, especially the E type, is pure 23-60 Vauxhall which sold very well Pomeroy. They remain to my mind I totally agree with the comments here, especially in rural areas. the iconic English sports cars of the made in the article about the centre 1920’s. They are superb cars and throttle pedal, so I try not to drive When I was a schoolboy I thought without doubt in a class of their own. either of these cars with my size 12 that for me the ideal vintage stable beetle crushers! would be a 30-98 Vauxhall, a Rolls Peter Crauford.

The question of UK values seems to me a bit odd, and certainly not reflected in Australia.

Whilst the comparison is difficult is to assess, we must remember that when the last 3 litres were made the 30-98 was long out of production and they are so different in so many ways, especially considering the much older design of the 30-98 – especially the

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By Phil Schudmak The Association of Motoring Clubs components were no longer useable So far, vehicles on Victorian Club held an important and very well or appropriate (e.g. the body). Many Permits have not been subject to the patronised meeting in Melbourne of these might seem trivial, but modification laws, but a few years on May 17th to explain the new they could still be against the rules. ago Vicroads was about to impose regulations to be introduced by Some are much more serious. For the same State and Commonwealth Vicroads covering “modified” example, if a new body has been put Vehicle Standards modification vehicles on the Club Permit Scheme. on a car, it must be comprehensively regulations (VSI 8 and VSB 14) These regulations should be available stress tested. This would destroy any that apply to cars on full rego. within the next week or so and will timber-framed vintage body, and a Basically these rules are designed for probably become effective before 1950’s or 60’s sports car wouldn’t be and quite appropriate for modern September 2014. Remember, we are so happy either. cars. Details of the regulations are on only talking about the definition of, the Vicroads and AOMC websites. and requirements for, any historic Rod began by saying that despite the VSI 8 is only eight pages and is fairly vehicle modified from the original fervent interest in the topic by all straightforward, mainly common and on a Victorian Club Permit. those in the room, it occupies only sense and includes many exemptions. The extent of the interest in this 0.01% of Vicroads’ time, budget or However, the federal VSB 14 is a lot topic could be judged by the fact that energy. While there are still some more complex and was certainly not almost 300 delegates attended and officers of VicRoads who want to see designed for older vehicles. Quite there was standing room only. The a successful scheme in place, there are simply, it would not be possible for meeting was conducted by Rod Amos other areas of Vicroads where there is older cars, particularly pre-war, to of the VSCC, who has been doing little or no understanding, technical comply with them and they would an outstanding job guiding the new skill or interest in classic cars or their be off the road. (There’s nothing regulations through the bureaucratic heritage value, so it’s an uphill battle. new here for owners of older cars and very technical processes. It must Very fortunate for us, Rod is not the on full rego, but if they have been have been a full time job for him over sort of person who gives up easily and modified in any way, they might like the past six years or more. the new rules will be much better to ask themselves whether they have a than feared earlier. Basically, it looks legally registered vehicle or not!) The definition of “modified” is in like a very good result for most of the various state and federal rules the older (pre-1969) cars, but not so Fortunately for historic car owners, and regulations and carry the force good for the newer ones. Rod (on behalf of the AOMC) was of law. If you don’t comply, you are able to head off the new rules and have an illegal vehicle. It’s got very The new Club Permit (log book) they have been on hold until now. little to do with “roadworthy” or Scheme has met with almost The new modification rules (VSI “safe to use”. Depending on these universal approval by the classic 33) will apply to all Victorian Club definitions, very few older cars have car owners, although many Permit vehicles from later this year not been modified to some extent have suggestions for a variety of and will differentiate three different from the original over the years. You “improvements”, and there are some historic classes: will know what I’m talking about! stories of abuse. A few things are Perhaps because exact replacement still on the agenda, yet to be sorted, 1. Pre-1949 parts are no longer available (e.g. including the definition of “replicas” 2. 1949 - 1969 tyres), because of modernisation and guidelines for the approval of 3. post 1969 (there is a 25 year improvements (e.g. halogen light clubs authorised to participate in the old minimum requirement) globes, turn indicators, wider rims, scheme and their regulation. (There etc.), because of convenience or have been quite a few “motoring The details will be available soon performance improvements (e.g. clubs” formed recently with the main (refer the AOMC or Vicroads different engine, different gearbox, purpose of providing some of their websites). Briefly, the older group different carbys, bigger engine mates with “cheap rego” and for cars 1and 2 vehicles are permitted capacity, higher compression, that go beyond the definition of what greater latitude for restoration and different camshaft, etc.) or because might be called a hobby vehicle.) modification (so long as they comply

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ with the spirit and style of the era) new rules have been thrashed out Plymouth GTO fail its compliance and the newer ones very little. If a over several years and, by and large test because the rocker covers had car is modified beyond the relative they are as good as we are going been chromed. It wasn’t passed until parameters, it must be inspected to get. They are a sensible mixture he provided factory documentation and certified by an authorised VASS of technical, safety and heritage that it was an option at the time! engineer before it can go onto the values. They will not be subject to He shouldn’t have sold his 3 litre ! Club Permit Scheme. This is in further negotiation or debate, but he addition to the required RWC. The encouraged clubs to write to Vicroads initial application and annual renewal (copy to the AOMC, please) forms from Vicroads will require the with any constructive comments. owner to certify that the car has or This is especially if clubs thought hasn’t been modified, so that many exceptional circumstances might modification made after the vehicle is apply to their particular models. on red plates will need to be certified. I don’t know how these Rules work This is only a very short summary interstate. Unless their local licensing of Rod’s presentation, which lasted authorities have introduced similar for almost three hours. There will exemptions, historic cars would be much more to absorb in the next be subject to the national VSB 14 couple of months and all members Modification Standards, in which are encouraged to have a good look case heaven help them!! We are at the details. Basically, we have hearing stories of recent very strict a great system for our hobby cars supervision of the once envied permit and better than anywhere else that system in South Australia. One long- I’m aware of. Rod said that the time classic car owner had his 1969

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John Lackey is reluctantly offering his 3 litre for sale after John McQuay’s 3-4.5 litre 37 years of ownership. Full details are to be found in this Having completed a full restoration in time for the Britain Newsletter. by Bentley tour in 2011, John is now offering the car for sale. The late Russell Tapp’s 3 litre (chassis No. 365) has been Email: [email protected] in the UK for several years now and his son James tells Telephone: 03 9827 8218 me that it has now been sold to a buyer in Scotland. This Mobile: 0412 322 297 was an original Australian delivered car and was the first Bentley owned by Neville Webb in 1948. Robert Burke’s 8 litre tourer Chassis no. YM5045 Syd Reinhardt tells me that he has sold his 6 ½ litre Email: [email protected] Sedanca de Ville and it has gone to a good home in Telephone: (02) 4861 1912 . He understands that the buyer plans to retain Mobile: 0419 253 769 the original Mulliner body. Readers will recall that Syd was showing the car at the prestigious Villa d’Este concours in For further details and photo refer the previous Autumn Italy when an incorrect starting procedure led to a serious 2013 newsletter fire in the engine compartment. Fortunately it was all covered by insurance and Graham Moss in the UK was able Max Bacon’s 3 litre to make a 100% restoration. Chassis no. 383 Email: [email protected] Tery Hurst tells me that there are two WO’s that will be for Telephone: 03 95608986 sale in Brisbane soon: Mobile: 0401 767 954

Chris McGirl is selling his “Old Mother Gun “ 3 – 4 ½ See feature story in the Autumn newsletter 2011 replica that Max Houston built in 2009. This has chassis number 1123 and engine 1115.

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It is with great reluctance that I so I think it can be taken back to the (in rough order of occurrence) I offer my Bentley for sale. With due UK without incurring import duties. have restored/refurbished/repaired/ deference to my passions, my pleasures replaced the differential, fitted new and my age, along with consideration I used the car mostly on half shafts, the propeller of the fact that I can only drive one car Drivers Club (BDC) of NSW and shaft replaced with a modern Hardy at a time, now is the time for someone Vintage Sports Car Club of Australia Spicer unit, the valves, valve guides else to become custodian of my long (VSCCA) rallies and events. During and valve seats, a modern Z9 oil filter chassis Blue Label car. It has given my Chairmanship of the BDC and fitted (to replace the gauze and felt me many years of enjoyable, reliable my Presidency of the VSCCA the car filter originally supplied), starter motoring, but now is the time………….. almost never failed and attended every motor, new wiring and trafficators event/rally. I have competed with it fitted, springs re-set, Hartford shock The car is a 1924 model with 4 wheel on the circuits at Amaroo and Oran absorber discs, the brakes relined, brakes and spring safety brackets Park in Regularity Trials. An article perrot shafts re-bushed, the vacuum fitted from new. Its guarantee was about my car appeared in the BDCA tank by-passed by addition of electric cancelled in 1928 as upgrading work and BDC of NSW magazines. fuel pump, the clutch brake relined, to some Speed Model specifications the sloper SUs completely overhauled was carried out by an outside firm – When Clare Hay was in Sydney she by Midel (Sydney SU specialists), a but the guarantee was reinstated a examined my car with an audience new core fitted to the radiator shell, couple of months later upon this work of fellow BDCA members. Pictures new water pump, the body painted being checked out by Bentley Motors. of Dr Hay inspecting my car were in the original green, a new hood It has original engine (no. 550) and published in the Sydney Morning and tonneau covers, clutch relined, chassis (no. 543). The gearbox has Herald. She stated that she thought gearbox overhauled (including all been replaced by an A type close my car was very original and found new gears), new Michelin tyres and ratio unit (normally fitted to Speed that the car departed from originality draglink ball joints and cups replaced. Models) prior to my ownership. All in only a few minor areas, such as the There are probably other works carried the major component numbers are dash board had screws visible from the out over the years but they escape my close to the chassis number (engine, front, whereas the screws should have memory at the moment. differential, bonnet, steering box) been hidden behind the dash board and appear original and correct. The and that the oil pressure gauge was 0 The car starts on first push of the body is the original 5 seater tourer to 50 psi whereas it should be 0 to button and has good oil pressure, pulls body built by Stanford and Gray of 25 psi. up in a straight line and handles well. London. I acquired the car in 1977 It has a very comfortable ride and in the UK and imported it to Sydney Early in my custodianship I had will over steer when pressed. The car in April of that year. The aftermarket considerable difficulties with the comes with some special tools:- a rear mascot was found broken under the original ML magnetos and as a axle puller, a valve spring compressor, driver’s seat and has been repaired and consequence it is now fitted with and a spanner for the coolant drain re-nickelled. The original UK number extremely reliable BTH aircraft tube nuts. In addition all the replaced plates (HT 9672) and buff UK magnetos (the original ML magnetos parts go with the vehicle (original oil registration form and the last MOT are included with the car). Over filter, ML magnetos, old gears, water inspection certificate are with the car, the 37 years of my custodianship pumps etc.).

I have a genuine reason for the sale and would like the car to remain in Australia. If you are interested in acquiring it, save yourself the buyer’s premium and me the seller’s premium and buy from me – the car will go to auction if not sold privately. It is currently located in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney. I can be contacted at [email protected] or 0400 388 859. Further details and pictures can be provided.

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ John Lackey InRemembrance......

John Weatheritt, who was our earliest “Honorary Member” passed away last February in Kelso, UK. He was 82 years of age. John and his wife Jean drove overland to Australia in the early 1960’s in a 2CV Citroen, having left their 3 litre at home. They spent a couple of years in Melbourne before returing home and were very active members of the club in its early days. In 1965 John and Jean presented the club with our first perpetual trophy, The Weatheritt Trophy, to be awarded to the member who most used his or her Bentley.

In those days, many members used their Bentleys regularly and in order to keep track of things, members recorded the milage an an entry form each time they used it. Early winners included John Cresswell, Andrew Moran, Rod Warriner, Gregor Rusden, Jumbo Goddard, Philip Ironside, Neville Webb, Jim Nilsson and Graeme Miller. Tony Johns, Jean and John Weatheritt and Phil Schudmak during John and Jean returned to Australia in 2000 and were the “Britain by Bentley” Rally able to present their trophy to that years’s winner – Barry Batagol. More recently Chester and Sally McKaige met We have just heard that Peter Gargett passed away late up with them in the UK during one of their visits, and the in May. Peter was an active Bentley and Rolls Royce Johns and Schudmaks had lunch with them during the enthusiast in Brisbane and had owned his 3 litre, (chassis Britain by Bentley Rally. 533), for more than 50 years. His first Bentley was chassis 323, now being restored by Patrick Ryan, which Peter and some of his friends bought as a “project” in the early 1950’s. We will give more details in our next issue.

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%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ Oh! The Wonders of Modern Technology!...... and a Bentley Detective story.

I know that most of us are on a pretty steep learning curve (a 3 litre Bentley) held in Adelaide in 1930. These were when it comes to coming to grips with our PC or Mac, owned by Geoffrey Wardle, who owned two 3 litres at the let alone a new “smart’ phone. Scanners have been around time and was selling up and returning to the UK. Luckily for yonks and if we ever have cause to use one, usually as the auction company was Theodore Bruce, which is still part of our photocopier, it’s just a question of pressing very active in Adelaide after 135 years. (and now have an the button and sending it off, or filing it away somewhere even bigger operation in Sydney). hoping to find it in the years to come. A call to James Bruce, the current CEO of Theodore Bruce However, our Vintage Book team has been subject to established that the company records were destroyed in a much more severe discipline routines from the nerve flood some years ago, so no joy there, other than perhaps centre in Cambridge UK and just pressing button and the State Library might have some newspaper reports hoping for the best is no longer good enough. In order (they were a lot more detailed then than the pathetic to get consistent high quality photos for the book, we’ve efforts of today.) However, James said that, “by the way, had to scan and re-scan hundreds of photos from our club my grandfather used to have a Bentley. His name was Mick archives and from collections sent in by members and Young and he went to London to spend a bit of time in the former owners. We have been extremely grateful for all factory and to pick it up.” these and are still hopeful of receiving many more in the next few months. A quick check of our database showed the car to be a Speed Six, chassis FR2640, the quite splendid Gurney Nutting I thought than members might be interested in hearing of that was later owned by Keith Dureau and Owen one story almost typical of how things sometimes work out Bourke. We knew from Clare’s records that HH Young when you’re on the track of something interesting, and how was the first owner and that it had come to Australia many modern technology can be such a help. years ago, but we knew nothing of Mr Young or that he lived in Adelaide. Our leader, Clare Hay was keen to see if we could find the details of an auction of the house, contents and car I had known James’ father, Ian Bruce, in Adelaide many years ago, and was surprised to learn that he had retired to Robe, where we have been regular visitors since the good old days. Another phone call established that Horace Howard Young (always known as “Mick”), was Ian’s father-in-law. In the 1930’s he had moved to a horse breeding property near Camden, then on the outskirts of Sydney (actually, just about where the new Badgerys Creek airport is to be built). Mick kept the Bentley until after the war and Ian was kind enough to send me some photos, including one when Mick first collected the car in London in 1929.

One of the photos of the Bentley in the garage in 1938 looked to be of limited interest. The tiny photo was a distance shot only showing the rear of the car, but on seeing this, Clare quickly asked if I had we enlarged it to show the registration plate? I’d used the strongest magnifying glass I had, but it was just a blur.

%HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ However, our new “Standard Procedure” manual calls for To finish the exercise, I though it might be worth checking all photos to be scanned: the current ownership and whereabouts of FR2640. BDC records showed that Jack Goffette owned the car in the In colour (despite that most are black & white, or sepia) USA ten years or so ago (he still owns WK2658, which In high resolution (at least 600dpi), and was another ex-Aussie 6 ½ litre). More recently Daniel Saved to TIFF file format (not jpeg or PDF) Sielecki from Argentina did a major restoration of the car in the UK and Mr Google tells me that it later went on to The TIFF bit is very important because it allows you be judged Runner-Up as “Best of Show” at the 2011 Pebble to enlarge the photos to very high degree – big enough Beach Concours. to see the previously invisible rego plate – nsw 71883. The following photos might show you the difference. Phil Schudmak

John Lackey had phoned be at about the same time as this little project and I said that FR2640 was such a distinctive car, it must have been photographed, recorded or remembered by someone in the Sydney area during the 15 or more years that it had been there. I emailed a photo of the car to John and he called back straight away. He remembered seeing the car around Haberfield when he was going to school as an 11 year old. Amazingly, John also eventually recalled the name of the man who owned it – Dr Blunt. This confirmed our own records, although we had him owning the car after Keith Dureau. We now know that Dr Blunt brought the car with him when he moved to Melbourne in the late 1940’s and he sold it to Dureau. We have a great photo of the late Tony Gaze with the car in the 1950’s.

Max Bacon's 3 Litre is now for sale. This SKRWRZDVWDNHQDWWKH0LOGXUD5DOO\ (courtesy Warrick Hansted) soon after %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ UHVWRUDWLRQZDVFRPSOHWHG %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ Readers may recall that I reported in our previous Newsletter that I had met up with Richard Pringle Jones when we were in Hobart last year on the “Tour of Tassie” rally. He was an old friend of mine from the days when we both had a proper job, but neither of us then knew of our Bentley interests.

I bumped into Richard at David Short’s classic auto workshop while my Bentley was having a bit of routine maintenance and he mentioned that, as a teenager, he’d spent many years trying to trace his late father’s 3 litre. His father, Basil Jones, had owned the Bentley from 1929 until he was married in Chassis 1937. Richard was born in 1940 246 and his father was tragically killed in a flying accident a few months later. Sentimental “Reunion” Richard therefore never knew his father or the Bentley, but he did have a couple of faded photos.

Richard still has copies of letters that he had written in the late 1950’s to various vintage car and Bentley folk trying to trace the car. He had many helpful replies, but none had made the connection with 246, which by then was with Max Liddiard in Stawell and later Robin Ritchie. However, we were quickly able to identify the car from our archives.

A few months ago Richard was in Melbourne and we were able to introduce him to his father’s old car, which is now owned by Peter Willcox. Peter kindly took him for a couple of laps around the block and the smile on Richard’s face was something to behold.

Phil Schudmak

22 %HQWOH\'ULYHUV&OXERI$XVWUDOLD‡$XWXPQ ‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡ Autumn Run to MT Macedon ‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡‡

In view of the good turnout for last month’s Gregor Rusden run, the unusually pleasant Autumn weather and the very happy memories of a similar run last year, we thought we should organise another lunch at the Mt Macedon Hotel.

John McQuay kindly put together a good run through Romsey and Lancefield, skirting Hanging Rock, to the old pub. He also arranged to have coffee, scones and cream, and to start at Woodlands Homestead, not far past Tullamarine airport. It would have been nice to have a bit more time here as the homestead turned out to be a very interesting early (1843) large pre-fab timber kit house from the UK. The surrounding parks are now the home of several well-known retired race horses.

The weather was indeed kind to us, until we began the steep ascent around Mt Macedon, where we unexpectedly hit quite dense fog, which slowed progress somewhat.

Clive and Carolyn Smith had very generously invited us to join them for pre-lunch drinks at their lovely home opposite the pub and this allowed president Batagol to formally present Clive with the Gregor Rusden Trophy. Clive was unable to come on the Rusden rally last month, so it was “presented” to him then in absentia.

We all enjoyed an excellent lunch after the Smiths’ very kind hospitality and had an easy run home.

Phil Schudmak

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The Aussie team cars of Tony & Christine Johns, Gary & Desa On the road to Klosters, Switzerland McMillan, and Peter Graham & Jenny Lebens in Monaco.