NUMBER 19 By Ken Kaufmann, 735 W. Lemon Ave., Monrovia, CA 91016-2507 (626) 358-7327 DECEMBER 2006 ENGINE, TRANS, & RADIATOR FOR SALE started with Sterling engine serial number 10,001 and up. Hi Ken - Attached are photos of, I believe, a Sterling The other companies were the 1917-18 Monroe M3 engine, #4635C, for a 1917 Scripps Booth. I also have the roadster and Sedan; 1915 Cornelian, 1915-16 Sterling- radiator, driveshaft, and exhaust pipe. I'm interested in New York, 1915-16 Fostoria, 1915-16 Harvard, and 1915- selling these items or donating them to a non-profit auto 16 Macom [I think]. Sterling also built a flat head L type museum. Do you know of anyone who would be engine for the 1915 Grant 4 cyl runabout. interested? Thank you. Al Slotter, 1124 Mt. Pleasant Road I think it was the Grant contract for 5000 engines, with Greensburg, PA 15601 (724) 836-2625 Grant canceling the contract after receiving some 3000- Hi Al - The "C" after the #4635 means this engine was 3500 engines [with Sterling stuck for some built up built with Cast iron pistons, instead of the Lynite engines and most of the components already purchased aluminums pistons. The Wagner starter on the right side and inventoried. appears to be a factory installation, but the Model C Parts Scripps-Booth Company got into money problems in List claims the Wagner starter wasn’t used until the 1916 mid 1916 because of the big expense of coming to market closed valve engines starting at engine number 10,000. with the Model D FERRO V8 and the larger 4 pass That is, Car No. 5000 and above used the 10,000 and chassis. When Scripps-Booth stopped paying its bills, the above, enclosed valve engine. Your #4635C engine also Sterling company was its biggest creditor, and since WC has the later style transmission. This #4635C is the highest Durant personally and the Chevrolet Motor Co. were the open valve serial number known to date, so perhaps some biggest stockholders - next to Bill Little - so Durant basely of these improvements went into production sooner then stepped in and merged the Scripps-Booth Co. and the the Parts List indicates? Or perhaps this Sterling engine Sterling Motor Co together as the new Scripps-Booth #4635C was used in something other then a Scripps- Corporation. This was the same Bill Little who was under Booth? Durant as the Buick Plant Manager between 1906-1910 I am sure this #4635C is a late 1915 - early 1916 when he was replaced by Charlie Nash. Then still under Sterling engine, but not sure if it was built for the 1915-16 Durant, Bill Little organized the Chevrolet Motor Co and Model C Scripps-Booth - or at least the starter on the right the Little Motor Car Co in 1911. side doesn't look like the type that was used on the Model Durant, in late 1912, organized the Sterling Motor Co. C. The Sterling engine was sold to some other small in Flint to build the big Six cylinder engines for the automotive companies and it might be one of these that Chevrolet, but it was set up in the Chevrolet plant on West used this starting arrangement? The "C" after the serial Grand Blvd in Detroit. When the Chevrolet and Little number 4635 refers to the cast iron pistons used while companies were merged together in June of 1913, and the some engines had an "L" which stood for Lynite pistons -a Chevrolet Motor Co. was moved from Detroit up to Flint, type of aluminum. I figure Sterling built about 5000 of it seems Mr. Little wanted to go out on his own [Like this open - valve engine and then came out with improved Louis Chevrolet did at the sametime] so traded his stock in Sterling engine with the valve cover with the rocker arms Chevrolet to Durant for the Sterling Motor Co. where as mounted to the inside of the valve cover [Brush design]. the majority stock owner, he made himself the Sterling Too bad this is not the Scripps-Booth Model G engine that President. I have in my car. Regards, Ken It was after Sterling built out the Chevrolet Big 6, Little Hi Ken - Do you know how many Model C cars are 6, and Chevrolet Light 6, that Mr. Little started turned his still in existence? You mention that it may not be a attention to building as we know it the small Sterling 4 in Scripps-Booth engine, but one used by another company. both OHV and L head versions. Unfortunately, the 1915- Do you know which other companies used the Sterling 17 Sterling 4 proved to be a very weak engine, and the engine? Lastly, I gave you the wrong serial number. It is first thing Durant did when the Chevrolet company gained 4646C. Thanks, Al control of Scripps-Booth in mid 1916, was to install a Hi Al - We know of about 5 of the 1915-6 open valve dressed up version of the Chev 490 engine/gearbox cars and about 13 of the 1916-17 closed valve cars that [engines built before 1918 were built by Chevrolet’s 1 owned Mason Motor Co.] that the Model G prototype was The Scripps Motor Co. plant illustration at 629 first displayed at the NYC Auto Show in January 1917. Lincoln Ave [also used 650 and post 1921 it was 5817] When Chevrolet was merged into the General Motors was used in the first Scripps-Booth Cyclecar Co. sales Corp. in May of 1918 - Scripps-Booth was part of the folders, but only the prototype and first one or two show deal, with GM taking over Scripps-Booth and made it models were hand built in a small corner of this large GM's 7th car Division. The first thing GM did was to marine engine plant by the newly formed, in late 1913, dump the larger Scripps-Booth Model H touring car with Scripps-Booth Cyclecar Co. JSB’s Uncle Will Scripps the FERRO V8, and mounted a Scripps-Booth style body owned this well established marine engine firm that lasted on a 1918 Oakland chassis that used the Northway OHV till 1956 and was also a large stockholder in the cyclecar engine - this was the GM’s new 1918 Scripps-Booth Six. company. The early 1914 Scripps-Booth Cycle Car Co. I am lucky to have 3 restored cars that are interrelated sales folders listed its first address here for promotional as summarized above. 1.) 1912 Little Four runabout - built purposes at Lincoln Ave and the M.C.R.R. railroad. during the first week of production in mid May 1912 - In January of 1914 it was announced that the Scripps- believed to been the demonstrator car of the Dailey Motor Booth Cycle Car Company had purchased [most likely Car Company, the Oakland California REO and Little only rented] the plant at Beaufait Ave and Gratiot Ave. dealer - was displayed in Harrah's Museum for 20 years. which appears on the Detroit Public Library’s 1915 2.) 1918 Chevrolet Model D5 "EIGHT" touring that was Baist’s Real Estate Atlas map [I visited the DPL several built at the NYC Plant in January 1918 with the Mason times on vacation in the 1987 to 1998 period] as about a designed and built OHV V-8 engine. 3.) 1918 Scripps- 100 by 100 ft square building – and the picture in some Booth Model G roadster with Chev 490 engine which is sales folders shows it as a 3 story building. This building my favorite tour car. I mention this because I sure would was labeled in this map as just a “Cycle Car Co.” which be interested in buying a spare engine and transmission for was located across the street on the east side from the lots all 3 cars - so keep me in mind if you ever find one. of 1019 and 1021 Beaufait Ave which goes along with the Thanks for the update on the block serial number - it listed address of the 1915 Scripps-Booth Co. at 1020-1030 appeared to me to be a letter '6' also. Regards, Ken Beaufait Ave. Of course by 1915 the Scripps-Booth Cycle SCRIPPS-BOOTH MANUFACTURING PLANT Car Co. was reorganized into building the regular Model I very much appreciate your Scripps-Booth website. C roadster [dropping the Cycle Car from its name] as the Is there an essay in one of the Scripps-Booth Registers Scripps-Booth Company. describing the locations in Detroit where these cars were Then about the time WC Durant, WH Little, and manufactured? Chevrolet Motor Co. took over the Scripps-Booth Co. I read that a plant was built at 5718 Lincoln at the when it was merged with the Sterling Motor Company in Michigan Central Railroad for the early production of the July 1916, the office at least was moved down the street to Scripps-Booth cyclecar. Perhaps the construction began 981 Beaufait Ave. for 1916 to 1920. or was completed in 1913. I also have read that Scripps- Sometime after Chevrolet joined GM Corp. in May of Booth cars were produced at a plant on Beaufait on the 1918, GM took over control of Scripps-Booth Corp. from east side located between Sylvester and Gratiot. That Chevrolet and it was Scripps-Booth who GM purchased plant is now used by Hamilton Steel Products. If you can the ex-Saxon new plant [McGraw and Wyoming] in 1919 confirm the location of the manufacturing plant or plants from the government for which Scripps-Booth moved into in Detroit, I will add them to my website.