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Lok Sabha Debates Third Series1R.4 Thursday, February 13, 1964 Magha 24, 1885 (Saka) /2.6$%+$ '(%$7(6 Seventh Session Third/RN6DEKD /2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 New Delhi CO:';;Th~TS NO·4 Thursday, February 13, 1964/Magha 24,1885 (Saka) Columns Oral Answers to Questions- '!!.Starred Questions Nos. 61 to 69 . 437-75 Written Answers to Questions- MI Starred Questions Nos. 70 to 90 475-89 Unstarred Questions Nos. 128 to 181 ;.,;ii 490-528 Papers laid on the Table • 529-32 Motion Te: communal disturbances in East Pakistan and West Bengal- Shri Nanda . 532-77 Motion on Address by Vice-President discharging the wnctiQns gf Pre- sident 577~87 Shri Sachindra Chaudhuri 577-88 Shrimati Subhadra Joshi 588~2 Shri A. K. Gopalan 615-33 Shri Ranga. 633--47 Shri Mahatab 647-58 Shri U. M. Trivedi 658-70 Shri A. P. Sharma 670-77 Shri Yajnik 677-87 Business Advisory Committee - Twenty-third Report 687 Half-an-Hour discussion Te: rural Water supply 687-702 Dr. L. M. Singhvi 687-94 Dr. Sushila Nayar 696--702 ·The sign+marked above the name of a Member indi:tltes that the Question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. LOK SABRA DEBATES 437 438 LOJ[ SABIIA [(a) and (b). The number of primary health centres is steadily in- ThuTSciay. FebTUlLTY 13. 1964/Magha creasing with the establishment of 24, 1885 (Sakal new centres. On 30th April, 1962 there were 2571 centres with doctors, the number of centres witlh doctors The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of on 30th September, 1963 was 3042. the Clock. There is a lag between the establish- [MR. SPEAKER in the ChaiT] ment of centres and the finding. of doctors which is likely to be reduced O~~SSTO~TO~ as the output of doctors increases.] '"'''"' W-if ~ fir.n ~ ~ aflr.'mf ''If ~~ ml,n : ~ ;toiT + ~~: ;;it " ~ ij' ~ W-fuf ~ t f'I;' ~~ ~ ~: ~~~'~ L"l"\1:;<:rf ~ t.f : tm;r Iti1: m'( ~;T t f'fi' f'fi'eA ~ ihl'fC'f ;;@ ~ I if ;;rr;;;rr ~ ~ f'I;' iM ~ ll''lfT ~ 0 iI'ffif, 'I t ~ ~ ~ « 'fi'l1 ~ it« ~ if ~ ill ffiTif'fi'a' 5I'!R' ~ ¥¥t " ~ • JIRf it ~ ~ ~ ? ~ it li\l <rcrf.f 'lIT FtT ~ f'fi' : Wlo ",0 ~ ~T : It\i: ~ it ~ (Ij;) 'flI'r fqf1n;r 'W<ff ill' ~ ~ I l1'imI'. ;f>rnr, il>"<.<'f it orgcr lf1lf ~ it ft1rn' ;~ ~ 'lIT ~ it. 'fi'ift ~ I ~ W '3'<1': ~ it . arm- ~ if@ it, ~ ~T': ~ a;:q" ~ : m «r lftl' m t ti m<: ~ ~ ~ ij' ''~ ~ ? ''~;T . (V) llf<:: wt. a1 'fi'ift .-,0 c[o ~ U1II' : ~ ~ if ~ ~''~;;~ f.r<'I' a I (Interruption). ~ Shri Bart VisJulu Kamath: What ~~~ (Wlo does he mean by 'ni!'? No doctr ~ ~ m1!) : ('fi') oq-)7 ~ i{if at all? ~ fiIf'fi'ffiT ~ ~ ;;rr ~ ~ m<: .-,0 ",0 ~ ~: ~ ~ ~~ if ~ SI1I1fT a'tt-Iftt ~ "<iff ;tT ~ ~ ~ ... ~~ ~'~~T~~' it met it I '~ 'Ill ~ 6fifZl'- a;:1f" ~ : 9;IT'f ~' ~ ~ ~ iiI.ih'r ~ ~ 0 )(H.T lit I ijr;;il ilCfr m ~ m iICfT ~ lfiff . if m "f'j'f ~: ft;rit ~ ~ ~ iii .frq ~ 0\1RI'T t I 'iIif-'iIif ~ .... 0 to ~ ~ : ~ it 'fA: ~ fin it ~' q:) ff <rn1iT '~ If1IiT ~~~~ ~ ~ ;;milft I 6f.t ~~ ~ '3'if it ~ ~ . • ICM5 (ai) LS-l. Ora! Answers 439 Oral Answers FEBRUARY 13, 19M Dr. D. S. Raju: Some State Gov- ernments are taking steps in thia direction. III") ~ ~ : ~ it ~ ~'S'~ ~ ~~;; ~' Shri Hari Vishnu Kamath: Do ~ ~ fir;;r mro ~ ~ ~ ~ ~: ~: 'I1i Government take solace from the fact ~~~T'T;'~~ that in our young Republic if there are hospitals without doctors and \!IGI" ~;:;: ~ mr ~ ~ wm: ~ there are schools without teacher. ~~~~: ~ and courts without judges? Parti- cularly in the matter of hospitalll ~T '11[ ~ '!iT f1:rf>;ffi N'<rnrr '14m without doctors, is it really shortage, ;:T~ I ~~ ~ ~ ~ as the Deputy Minister has said, of ~ 1:1;0 1:!;ll0 ito ~ <for ~: ~ I ~ qualified and trained personnel or is it due to lack of amenities and incen- ~~'C~:~~ tives for rural service, and if it';. 'liT -;:r;; ~ <" 'fliT if@ W fcrltr "l'mr latter be the case, what adequat. incentives and amenities are being' ~ >t.'f<1IFP'F:is1; ~ 'if\TIf ~ ~ ~ ? t offered or are proposed to be offered by Government to attract doctors 10 ~ ll:o ~ '(Iiii' : ~ Ij\'flI' <l'ill' rural areas? ~ 'I1T ~ I ~ '~ 'liT " m ~ I ~:~:~;~ I Dr. D. S. Raju: Among the doctors who are qualifying from the medical colleges, every year, many of them go ~ ~ ~: 'flfr ljifl ~ >t. for private practice, and only about 6'lIT'i it ~ mr ~ ~ f'l1 fri ~ 30 to 40 per cen t of those registered enter Government sen-:-",. That ie ~~~~~~;;;;~ one of the factors. Another factor is ;;'~~ ';T~T~~ that the amenities are also not very ;plT '~ ii.m ;~ ~ <A'[ ~ ~ ~ satisfactory. Further, their pay scales are low, and the rural allow- %<I' 5< ~ me<: ~ &1. '~ f<;rQ: ances also are not attractive. But the ~ ~ it ~ if 'IiTl! ~ ~ State Governments are taking steps to provide them with housing accom- ~ ? modation and also give them rural allowance and such other faCilities. Besides, facilities for post-graduate Br. D. S. Raja: There are certain studies are also being given to the primary health centres which are rural doctors now. So, in course of receiving assistance from UNICEF time, I hope that the conditions will and they are not supposed t'l have improve, and most of the rural dis- doctors qualified in indigenous system pensaries will be manned by qualified of medicine. But there are so many doctors. rural dispensaries which are run by the Zila Parishads who can take these doctors of integrated system of ..-.1 ~~ iiI'1!l1I' : t:Ofm: ~ -medicine. ~ t Wr<: ifij' ~: if'i'ir ~ t ~ ~ <mr ijI!>' 'ti<;rr Mr. Speaker: He wants to know m <R-"'tR< whether there is a proposal to make ~~ I ~O~~~ it compulsory for the new graduates ~~~ 'Il'i!t ~ ~~ ami <flI1 ~ in medicine to go and serve first in villa&es before they take up any it 'IITl! ~ ii.m ~T ~ ~ ~ assignment in urban areas. ~ 441 Oral Answers MAGHA 24, 1885 (SAKA) Oral Answers 44Z Mr. Speaker: That is a suggestion if f<tftt ~T ~ ;;~ ~ ~ it 1 for action. ~: <f.T .rr lPm ~ qg ~T ~ ~ ? ~ ~T ~ '~ : 'fl1T ~ ~ t f'I\' Dr. D. S. Raju: They have made ~;;~~~~~ various recommendations, and these recommendations have been commu- ~ ~ ill mU'f ill ~ rrtoif if nicated to the State Governments and 1f'hJ:<:: ~ ~~ ~ .m;;ro; ~ ~ ~ they are implementing them. ;~ ~ ~ 7 ~~ T~ flP ::~ 'fi+I' Shri Kapur Singh: I want to brine ~ ~ ~ ~T; ;rft 'JJi'lT ~ to yo"r specific notice the fact that ~ lflfr ~ ~ ~ ? the odginal question itself stipulates that the information to be supplied Dr. D. S. Raju: Most of the doctors shau:·: re-bte to States. and, there- who are qualifying now get some fore, mY question is not altogether ofr rural orientation training in some of the mark, You may kindly read the the orientation centres, and now they '~ yourself, Sir.... will be fit to carryon work in the rural areas. 'Vi '. Speaker: I agree with him that it is not altogether off the .mark, but tr; ·,1 certain extent it is, and, there- Shri Kapur Singh: I would like to forc'. I had disallowed it be informed, if such information is readily available, how many rural hospitals and dispensaries there are Deaths due to Exposure in DeIW in the Punjab where buildings and equipment exist but where there are + no doctors in charge of them. !'lhri R. G. Dubey: Mr. Speaker: If each State is to be Shri Maheswar Nail<: taken up, thelY sixteen States would Shri hh~ Prasad: have to be covered and that would Shri P. C. Borooah: take a lot of time. Shri Shree Narayrua 1)Qs: Shri Shiv Charan Gupta: Shri Kapur Singh: I am not asking Shri Yashpal Singh, about all the States, but I merely ~ Shri Krishnapal Singh: want tv know about the Punjab. Shri Mohan Swarutt: Shri Nath Pili: Mr. Speaker: He may ask about Shri PrakaSh Vir Sh~: Punjab, while some other Member Shri P. Kunhan: will ask about Bihar and so on. Shri D. C. Sharma, Shri Gulshan: Shri Kapur Singh: But vou are Shri Kishen Pattnayak: strong enough to prevent h~ from Shri Ram Sewak Yaday: asking. Will the Minister of Works, Housin&' Shri Hem Barna: Punjab and Assam and Rehabilitation be pleased to are the two States where such a posi- state: tion obtains. (a) whether it is a fact that 'T~~: '~~~ !leveral shelterless people diNl ~ a result of exposure to cold in the if iICfTl(f iT<Tr ~ flP ~ ~ if mro Capital during the last week of <it !fi'Ift >ir 'l'T rn ~ f;;rq; ~ ~ December, 1963 and January, 1964; '~ ~ ~ lSIT.no ;iTo ~ T"IT ill (b) if so, what is the number of fm'if I ':T'~~'''~~~ such deaths; and 443 Ora! Anawers FEBRUARY 13, 1964 Ora! Anawers 444 (c) whether any measures are being Hr. Speaker: I do not' know what taken to guard against recurrenCe of has perplexed the hon. Members. If such deaths? the hon. Minister says 'Yes', it means that there are certain persons who The Minister of Works, Housing and have died certainly, but the number lltehabilitation (Shri Mehr Chand is not known. )[hanna): (a) and (bl. Yes, but the .umber is not known, If the hon. Member wants to know the approximate number, I have said (c) The Delhi Municipal Corpora- already that I Shall allow l).im to lion and the Bharat Sevak Samaj ask that supplementary question. He lIlilintain six Night Shelters through- cannot start asking supplemerr.ery out the year, During the winter sea- questions straightway in this manner son, the Delhi Municipal Corporation without being called.
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