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The Canadian Coast Guard Second Session Deuxième session de la Thirty-seventh Parliament, 2002-03 trente-septième législature, 2002-2003 SENATE OF CANADA SÉNAT DU CANADA Proceedings of the Standing Délibérations du Comité Senate Committee on sénatorial permanent de la National Security Sécurité nationale et and Defence de la défense Chair: Président: The Honourable COLIN KENNY L'honorable COLIN KENNY Monday, November 3, 2003 (in camera) Le lundi 3 novembre 2003 (à huis clos) Issue No. 27 Fascicule no 27 Forty-third and Quarante-troisième et forty-fourth meetings on: quarante-quatrième réunions concernant: Examination on the need for a national L'étude sur la nécessité d'une politique nationale security policy for Canada sur la sécurité pour le Canada and et Third meeting on: Troisième réunion concernant: Study on Veterans services and benefits, L'étude des prestations et services offerts aux commemorative activities and anciens combattants, les activités commémoratives Veterans Charter et la charte des anciens combattants INCLUDING: Y COMPRIS: THE SEVENTEENTH REPORT LE DIX-SEPTIÈME RAPPORT OF THE COMMITTEE DU COMITÉ (Canada's Coastlines: The Longest (Les côtes du Canada: Les plus longues Under-Defended Borders in the World) frontières mal défendues au monde) 40596 THE STANDING SENATE COMMITTEE LE COMITÉ SÉNATORIAL PERMANENT ON NATIONAL SECURITY AND DEFENCE DE LA SÉCURITÉ NATIONALE ET DE LA DÉFENSE The Honourable Colin Kenny, Chair Président: L'honorable Colin Kenny The Honourable J. Michael Forrestall, Deputy Chair Vice-président: L'honorable J. Michael Forrestall and et The Honourable Senators: Les honorables sénateurs: Atkins * Lynch-Staunton Atkins * Lynch-Staunton Banks (or Kinsella) Banks (ou Kinsella) * Carstairs, P.C. Meighen * Carstairs, c.p. Meighen (or Robichaud, P.C.) Smith, P.C. (ou Robichaud, c.p.) Smith, c.p. Cordy Wiebe Cordy Wiebe Day Day *Ex Officio Members * Membres d'office (Quorum 4) (Quorum 4) Published by the Senate of Canada Publié par le Sénat du Canada Available from: Communication Canada En vente: Canadian Government Publishing, Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0S9 Communication Canada ± Édition Ottawa (Ontario) K1A 0S9 Also available on the Internet: http://www.parl.gc.ca Aussi disponible sur internet: http://www.parl.gc.ca 3-11-2003 Sécurité nationale et défense 27:3 MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS PROCÈS-VERBAUX OTTAWA, Monday, November 3, 2003 OTTAWA, le lundi 3 novembre 2003 (54) (54) [English] [Traduction] The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Le Comité sénatorial permanent de la sécurité nationale et de Defence met this day in camera, at 10 a.m. in room 160-S la défense se réunit aujourd'hui, à huis clos, à 10 heures, dans la (Subcommittee Room), the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, pièce 160-S (salle de réunion des sous-comités), sous la présidence presiding. de l'honorable sénateur Colin Kenny (président). Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Membres du comité présents: Les honorables sénateurs Atkins, Cordy, Day, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen, Smith, P.C. and Atkins, Cordy, Day, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen, Smith, c.p., et Wiebe (8). Wiebe (8). In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Également présents: De la Direction de la recherche Library of Parliament: Grant Dawson, Analyst; Major General parlementaire, Bibliothèque du Parlement: Grant Dawson, (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Adviser; analyste; le major-général (à la retraite) Keith McDonald, Superintendent Gerry Doucet, RCMP Liaison Officer; conseiller militaire principal; le surintendant Gerry Doucet, Commander Gerry Powell, DND Liaison Officer; Veronica agent de liaison de la GRC; le commandant Gerry Powell, Morris, Communications Officer. agent de liaison du MDN; Veronica Morris, agente de communications. It was moved by the Honourable Senator Meighen, — That the Il est proposé par l'honorable sénateur Meighen — Que le following supplementary budget application for the fiscal year budget suivant pour l'année financière se terminant le ending March 31, 2004 be concurred in, and, — That the Chair 31 mars 2004 soit approuvé, et — Que le président soit autorisé submit same to the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, à le présenter au Comité permanent de la régie interne, des Budgets and Administration. budgets et de l'administration: Professional and other services $ 4,000 Services professionnels et autres 4 000 $ Transportation and Communications $ 10,000 Transports et communications 10 000 $ All other expenses $ 5,000 Autres dépenses 5 000 $ Total $ 19,000 Total 19 000 $ The question being put on the motion, it was adopted on La question, mise aux voix, est adoptée. division. In accordance with Rrle 92(2)(f) the committee considered its Conformément à l'alinéa 92(2)f) du Règlement, le comité draft report. examine un projet de rapport. At 1:50 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair. À 13 h 50, le comité suspend ses travaux jusqu'à nouvelle convocation de la présidence. ATTEST: ATTESTÉ: OTTAWA, Monday, November 3, 2003 OTTAWA, le lundi 3 novembre 2003 (55) (55) [English] [Traduction] The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Le Comité sénatorial permanent de la sécurité nationale et de Defence met this day in camera, at 5:17 p.m. in room 160-S la défense se réunit aujourd'hui, à huis clos, à 17 h 17, dans la (Subcommittee Room), the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, pièce 160-S (salle de réunion des sous-comités), sous la présidence presiding. de l'honorable sénateur Colin Kenny (président). Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Membres du comité présents: Les honorables sénateurs Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Day, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen and Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Day, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen et Wiebe (8). Wiebe (8). In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Également présents: De la Direction de la recherche Library of Parliament: Grant Dawson, Wolfgang Koerner parlementaire, Bibliothèque du Parlement: Grant Dawson, and Steven McGuire, Analysts; Major General (Ret'd) Wolfgang Koerner et Steven McGuire, analystes; le major- 27:4 National Security and Defence 3-11-2003 Keith McDonald, Senior Military Adviser; Superintendent Gerry général (à la retraite) Keith McDonald, conseiller militaire Doucet, RCMP Liaison Officer; Commander Gerry Powell, principal; le surintendant Gerry Doucet, agent de liaison de la DND Liaison Officer; Veronica Morris, Communications Officer. GRC; le commandant Gerry Powell, agent de liaison du MDN; Veronica Morris, agente de communications. Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Conformément à l'ordre de renvoi adopté par le Sénat le Thursday, September 18, 2003, the committee continues its study jeudi 18 septembre 2003, le comité poursuit son étude sur les on veterans services and benefits, commemorative activities and prestations et services offerts aux anciens combattants, les Veterans Charters. (See Issue No. 24, Wednesday, October 1, 2003 activités commémoratives et la charte des anciens combattants. for the full text of the Order of Reference.) (L'ordre de renvoi figure dans le fascicule no 24 du mercredi 1er octobre 2003.) In accordance with rule 92(2)(f) the committee proceeded to Conformément à l'alinéa 92(2)f) du Règlement, le comité consider the report of the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs. examine le rapport du Sous-comité des anciens combattants. The Honourable Senator Meighen moved, — That the report L'honorable sénateur Meighen propose — Que le rapport du of the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs be adopted and — That Sous-comité des anciens combattants soit adopté, et — Que Senator Meighen table the report in the Chamber on Tuesday, le sénateur Meighen dépose le rapport au Sénat, le November 4, 2003. mardi 4 novembre 2003. At 5:22 p.m., in accordance with rule 92(2)(f) the committee À 17 h 22, conformément à l'alinéa 92(2)f) du Règlement, le considered its draft report. comité examine un projet de rapport. The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. La question, mise aux voix, est adoptée. At 6:23 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair. À 18 h 23, le comité suspend ses travaux jusqu'à nouvelle convocation de la présidence. ATTEST: ATTESTÉ: La greffière du comité, Barbara Reynolds Clerk of the Committee 3-11-2003 Sécurité nationale et défense 27:5 REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE RAPPORT DU COMITÉ Tuesday, October 28, 2003 Le mardi 28 octobre 2003 The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Le Comité sénatorial permanent de la sécurité nationale et de Defence has the honour to table its la défense a l'honneur de déposer son SEVENTEENTH REPORT DIX-SEPTIÈME RAPPORT Your Committee, which was authorized by the Senate on Votre Comité, qui a été autorisé par le Sénat le mercredi, Wednesday, October 30, 2002, to examine and report on the need 30 octobre 2002 à étudier, afin d'en faire rapport, la nécessité for national security policy for Canada, now tables its interim d'une politique nationale sur la sécurité pour le Canada, dépose report entitled Canada's Coastlines: The Longest Under-Defended maintenant son rapport intérimaire intitulé Les côtes du Canada: Borders in the World. Les plus longues frontières mal défendues au monde. Respectfully submitted, Respectueusement soumis, Le président, COLIN KENNY Chair Canada’s Coastlines: The Longest Under-Defended Borders in the World Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence VOLUME 1 October 2003 MEMBERSHIP 37th Parliament – 2nd Session STANDING COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY AND DEFENCE The Honourable Colin Kenny,
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