Volume II t Tuesday No. 1 25th May, 1965

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

DEWAN NEGARA (SENATE)

OFFICIAL REPORT

SECOND SESSION OF THE SECOND

CONTENTS

PRESENTATION OF THE PRESIDENT'S CHAIR [Col. 3]

MOTION OF THANKS TO THE PARLIAMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA [Col. 8]

DI-CHETAK DI-JABATAN CHETAK KERAJAAN OLEH THOR BEND CHONG, A.M.N., PENCHETAK KERAJAAN KUALA LUMPUR 1967 MALAYSIA DEWAN NEGARA (SENATE) Official Report

Vol. II Second Session of the Second Dewan Negara No. 1

Tuesday, 25th May, 1965 The Senate met at Three o'clock p.m..

PRESENT :

The Honourable Mr President, DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN BIN MOHAMED YASIN, S.P.M.J., P..I.S., J.P. (Johore). ENCHE' A. ARUNASALAM, A.M.N. (Appointed). ENCHE' ABDUL RAHMAN BIN AHMAD (Perlis). ENCHE' ABDUL SAMAD BIN OSMAN (Appointed). ENCHE' ABDUL WAHAB BIN IDUS, P.J.K. (Negri Sembilan). „ TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN HAJI ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Penang). „ ENCHE' AHMAD BIN HAJI TAFF (Singapore). „ CHE' AISHAH BINTI HAJI ABDUL GHANI (Appointed). CHE' BIBI AISHA BINTI HAMID DON, A.M.N. (Appointed). ENCHE' AMALUDDIN BIN DARUS (Kelantan). ENCHE' AWANG DAUD MATUSIN (Appointed). ENCHE' CHAN KWONG-HON, A.M.N., S.M.S., J.P. (Selangor). DATO' DR CHEAH TOON LOK, D.P.M.K., D. M.K., J.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). ENCHE' CHoo KOK LEONG (Appointed). DATO' J. E. S. CRAWFORD, J.M.N., J.P., Dato' Kurnia Indera (Appointed). ENCHE' D. S. DORAI RAJ (Appointed). DATO' FOO SEE MOI, D.P.M.K., J.P. (Appointed). ENCHE' HOH GHEE CHEONG, A.M.N., J.P. (Pahang). ENCHE' HONG TECK GUAN (Appointed). ENCHE' ANDREW JIKA LANDAU (Appointed). ENCHE' KHOO TECK PUAT (Appointed). ENCHE' KO TECK KIN (Singapore). „ ENCHE' KOH KIM LENG (). DATO' LEE FOONG YEE, J.M.N., P.P.T., J.P. (Negri Sembilan). DATO' Y. T. LEE, D.P.M.S., J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Appointed). ENCHE' MOHAMAD ADIB BIN OMAR (Trengganu). DATU PENGIRAN MOHAMED DIGADONG GALPAM, P.D.K. (Sabah). „ DATO' HAJI MOHAMED NOAH BIN OMAR, P.M.N., S.P.M.J., D .P.M.B., P.I.S., J.P. (Appointed). „ TUAN HAJI MOHAMED SAID BIN HAJI ABU BAKAR (Appointed). 3 25 MAY 1965 4

The Honourable ENCHE' MOHAMED SALLEH BIN MOHAMED ARIFF (Malacca). „ ENCHE' ATHI NAHAPPAN (Appointed). ENCHE' S. P. S. NATHAN (Appointed). TEMENGGONG OYONG LAWAI JAU (Sarawak). TOK PANGKU PANDAK HAMID BIN PUTEH JALI , P.J.K. (Appointed). ENCHE' SAIDON BIN KECHUT, A.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' SHEIKH ABU BAKAR BIN YAHYA , D.P.M.J., P.I.S., J.P. (Johore). DATO' G. SHELLEY , P.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN SYED AHMAD BIN SYED MAHMUD SHAHABUDIN , J.M.N. (Kedah). ENCHE' WILLIAM TAN (Appointed). DATO' T. H. TAN, P.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' TEH SIEW ENG, D.P.M.P ., J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P . (Appointed).

S, ENCHE' S. O. K. UBAIDULLA , J.M.N. (Appointed). WAN AHMAD BIN WAN DAUD, J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Perlis). DATO' WAN IBRAHIM BIN WAN TANJONG, J.M.N., P.J.K., Orang Kaya Indera Maharaja Purba Jelai (Pahang). WAN SULAIMAN BIN WAN TAM, P .J.K. (Kedah). ENCHE' YAHYA BIN HAJI AHMAD (Perak).

ABSENT : The Honourable the Minister without Portfolio, DATO' ONG YOKE LIN, P.M.N. (Appointed). DATU JOSEPH AUGUSTINE ANGIAN ANDULAG, P.D.K. (Sabah). „ DATU TUANKU BUJANG BIN TUANKU HAJI OTHMAN (Sarawak). ENCHE' CHEAH SENG KHIM, J.P. (Penang). ENCHE' DA ABDUL JALIL BIN HAJI AWANG (Trengganu). ENCHE' GAN TECK YEOw, J.M.N. (Appointed). ENCHE' C. D. ISMAIL, J.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). ENCHE' LIM HEE HONG, A.M.N . (Appointed). NIK HASSAN BIN HAJI NIK YAHYA, J.M.N. (Appointed).

S 9 RAJA RASTAM SHAHROME BIN RAJA SAID TAUF HY (Selangor). t, DATO' E. E. C. THURAISINGHAM, D.P.M.J., J.P. (Appointed). ENCHE' YEOH KIAN TEIK (Perak).

PRAYERS Mr President: Honourable Senators, is it the pleasure of the Senate that the (Mr President in the Chair) Delegation be admitted? (Senators indicate assent). Will the Clerk please PRESENTATION OF THE conduct the Delegation to the bar. PRESIDENT'S CHAIR (The Clerk conducts the Delegation The Clerk: Mr President, I have to to the bar). report that a Delegation, sent by the Parliament of the Commonwealth of Mr President: Members of the Australia to present a President's Chair Delegation, pray be seated. to the Senate of Malaysia, is inquiring if this Honourable Senate will be Honourable Senators , we are all pleased to receive them. aware that under normal situation we 5 25 MAY 1965 6 should carry out the proceedings of this than kept" and it is in this spirit that Senate in the National Language, but we welcome you here. having regard to the circumstances of I now invite Senator the Honourable this Special Meeting I am sure Honour- Sir Alister McMullin, President of the able Senators will agree with me that Senate, Commonwealth of Australia, to it will not be inappropriate to proceed speak. along today in English and con- sequently I shall speak in this language Sir Alister McMullin (President of and hope that Honourable Senators the Senate, Commonwealth of Austra- will bear with me. lia): Mr President, you will forgive me, I hope, if I commence on an historical On behalf of this Honourable House, I would like to welcome you Sir note, but the events to which I refer Alister McMullin, President of the were of great importance and were pre- cedent to these proceedings today. Senate, Commonwealth of Australia, and Mr A. R. Cumming Thom, Acting On 31st August, 1962, the fifth Principal Parliamentary Officer of the anniversary of Malaya's independence, Senate, Commonwealth of Australia, to His Majesty laid the foundation stone this Chamber today. We are indeed of this magnificent Parliament Building. delighted to have you here with us. It is a great tribute to the planners, designers and builders that only four- We were very happy indeed when teen months elapsed between then and we first heard that the Australian the event on 2nd November of the Parliament has decided to present this following year, when His Majesty Senate with a President's Chair. We opened the new Parliament House, and, were further flattered to hear that the in so doing, gave symbolic effect to Australian Parliament would be sending the constitutional and political develop- a special Delegation to this Senate to ments which had culminated in the make the presentation. We are now inauguration of Malaysia during the doubly honoured to find the Delegation previous month. being led by no less a person than the Honourable President of the Senate Two days after that event, His himself. It is not often that this Senate Majesty was graciously pleased to open, has been privileged to have in its in this Parliament House, the Ninth presence such a distinguished visitor. Conference of the Commonwealth Sir Alister, you have indeed done us a Parliamentary Association, at which great honour in taking all the trouble were represented the Parliaments of to come over here from Australia. It is the . This in appreciation of your Parliament's ceremony was, I believe, of great generous gesture that Members of this significance, as it emphasised the words Senate are gathered here today at a of His Majesty two days previously special sitting. that "This noble edifice is visible proof to all the world of the faith of Malayan Australia, which shares the same people in the concept of Parliamentary democratic ideals that we all here democracy." treasure, has been all along more than generous in providing assistance to our I was privileged to be present on young nation in various fields. I need both occasions, a privilege which was not elaborate on this as all Honour- heightened, Mr President, when at an able Senators are fully aware of this informal ceremony in your suite, I fact. Such generosity can only stem out asked if your Senate would accept from of the strong bond of friendship that the Australian Parliament a President's exists between the people of Australia Chair which would do justice to and and the people of Malaysia -a friend- harmonise with this splendid Senate ship which we firmly believe will be Chamber. You, Sir, were kind enough maintained ever after. This long to say that the gift would be welcome standing friendship also gives us a indeed. sense of achievement, for as they say It may seem that we have been over "Friendship is like money, easier made long in fulfilling our promise. I can 7 25 MAY 1965 8 only plead our sincere desire that there Mr President, this occasion is one should be every care in design, material which I shall never forget . I consider and workmanship so that the final it an honour to be your guest in this product should be worthy of and Chamber, an honour which is all the consistent with the architecture and greater because, through you and your furnishing of this Senate, and be accept- colleagues of the Senate, Sir, I am able able to its Members. I hope that this to give visible expression to the friend- Chair, a symbol of authority and ship which exists -between our two dignity, which was designed and con- countries by presenting this Chair to structed by the Australian Department you for your use and that of your of Works, out of Australian timber and successors. materials, has achieved our purpose. I can assure you that its construction It is our earnest hope that it will be was the subject of lively and personal tangible evidence of our great goodwill interest by those officers of the Depart- towards you and of our support for ment who were concerned. I will give you in your fight to maintain the some notes on the Chair to the Clerk of integrity of Malaysia . (Applause). the Senate for his records, but you may Mr President, in the name of the be interested to know that the timber is Parliament of the Commonwealth of black bean, a hardwood indigenous to Australia and on behalf of the said the rain forests of the north-east coast Parliament and of the people of of Australia, and that selected ox hides Australia, I ask you to accept this gift. were used in the upholstery. (Whereupon the Chair is unveiled.) Mr President, Sir, I am here today as a representative of the Members of both MOTION OF THANKS TO THE Houses of the Parliament of the PARLIAMENT OF THE COM- Commonwealth of Australia, and to MONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA bring you their warmest greetings. Dato' T. W Tan: Mr President, Sir, There is a strong link between our as the Chief Party and as acting countries -a link of friendship which Leader of Government Business, it is extends into the past and was my honour and privilege to move a strengthened in the fires of the last Motion expressing the thanks of our war. Malaysia, like Australia, has a Senate to the Parliament of the federal parliamentary system of govern- Commonwealth of Australia for the ment and I understand that our ex- magnificent gift just presented to you, perience, our successes and our faults, Sir, by the President of the Senate of were drawn on when your Constitution Australia, the Honourable Sir Alister was being drafted. Malaysia and McMullin. My motion reads Australia are therefore equally heirs of That this Senate accepts with thanks and the same system of liberal and appreciation the gift of the President's democratic government. Chair from the Parliament of the Common- wealth of Australia as a token of friendship That the formation of Malaysia, the and goodwill on the part of the Parliament building of a new and great nation with and people of Australia towards the Senate and people of Malaysia. a diversity of races and religions, should have been threatened by its largest Mr President, Sir, the people of neighbour at the moment of its birth Malaysia are only too well aware of aroused immediately our sympathy and the great friendship which the people our support. We feel it is of the utmost of Australia have always shown importance that Malaysia should be towards us. We know too, Sir, that able to develop and prosper, important this friendship is not platonic. Time not only for Malaysia, but for the and again in our hour of crisis, whole of South-East Asia. I can assure Australia has translated this friendship you, Sir, that Australia has a great and into tangible aid, given willingly and enduring interest in your nation and freely, not only in kind but, we its people and in its freedom and its remember with gratitude, also given welfare. with the lives of so many Australians 9 25 MAY 1965 10 in the last World War. So, it can be indulgence of the House to speak in said that the Chair which you, Mr English. President, Sir, will be occupying will be a constant reminder to us Malay- Sir, you and other Honourable Mem- House will recall that just sians of the support which the bers of this over two years ago, I had occasion to Parliaments of Australia will always as Speaker, in a Chair give us in our efforts to establish and participate, practise parliamentary democracy in presentation ceremony in the House of our country , and also the material Representatives. It was the Speaker's support which Australia is giving in Chair presented by the United Kingdom It is my honour such generous measure to help us to House of Commons . counter Indonesian confrontation. As and privilege to witness today a similar recently as last week, an Australian ceremony. mission was in Malaya to ascertain Sir, the Chair is, needless for me to our needs and to see how Australia can say, an important item in the Chamber. help us to face our common enemy. It is a symbol of the powers which the Senate has entrusted upon its Presiding Mr President, Sir, I am sure all Officer. The Chair which is being Senators will join me wholeheartedly presented to us today , I am sure all in saying "Thank you" to the Honourable Members will agree, looks Parliament and people of Australia very attractive and it should be very from the bottom of our hearts for this comfortable to sit on. I hope, however, magnificent gift of a President's Chair that it is not too conf ortable because (Applause) and more particularly for the and I can say this from the experience sentiments which the Chair symbolises, I had as the Speaker of the House of and for the bonds of brotherhood that Representatives for five years the hold our two nations together. This cushioned comfort tends to make the simple ceremony , which is being en- occupant less than alert (Laughter). acted in this Senate today , adds another The Presiding Officer's powers are glorious page to the history of Malay- essentially derived , of course, from the sian/Australian relations . I feel sure wishes of Members themselves. But, future Malaysians will always look regretfully, it does quite often happen back to this day with pride, because some Honourable Members do forget our more mature sister Parliament in their own wishes . This therefore calls Australia on this day recognises the for the Presiding Officer to be alert all advance of parliamentary democracy the time. in our country ever since we attained independence, and with gratitude to Mr President, Sir, both Australians Australia for her parliamentary and and Malaysians share so many things material support in our hour of national in common. We firmly believe in crisis. This is the message which, Mr democracy, and with equal firmness we President, Sir, I hope our distinguished are determined to defend it at any cost friends, the Honourable Sir Alister against any forces that try to destroy McMullin and his colleague, Mr it. Malaysia is a small nation, but we Cumming Thom , the Acting Principal are not alone. We have friends like Parliamentary Officer of the Senate of Australia, for instance. And this friend- Australia, will convey to the Parliament ship, I believe and so do many other and people of Australia. people is the result, not so much as the relative geographical positions of Mr President, Sir, I beg to move. these countries, as the natural sense of (Applause). friendship that is growing ever strong from being members of the same Dab ' Haji Mohamed Noah bin family of nations namely the Com- Omar: Mr President, Sir, it gives me monwealth. I certainly see the truth in great pleasure to second the motion. the saying that "of all the things which Like yourself, in view of the special wisdom provides to make life entirely circumstances as you said earlier, I happy, much the greatest is the ask for your indulgence and the possession of friendship", and nothing 11 25 MAY 1965 12 could be more appropriate to demon- Mr President: Members of the strate this friendship than the presenta- Delegation, please accept this Resolu- tion of this Chair today. It is in this tion of the Senate and be good enough spirit, Mr President, Sir, that I beg to to convey it to the Honourable the second the motion (Applause). Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia. Question put, and agreed to. Sir Alister McMullin : Thank you, Resolved, Mr President; we shall be pleased to do so. That this Senate accepts with thanks and appreciation the gift of the President's Chair (The Delegation retires). from the Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia as a token of friendship and Mr President: The Senate is goodwill on the part of the Parliament and adjourned. people of Australia towards the Senate and people of Malaysia. Adjourned at 3.30 p.m.