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1 2 NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION 3 4 5 PUBLIC FORUM 6 7 CORPORATE AVERAGE FUEL ECONOMY 8 9 10 DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT 11 12 NTSB 13 14 429 L'Enfant Plaza, SW, Washington, D.C. 20594 15 August 4, 2008 16 (Revised Transcript) 17 BEFORE: 18 19 Steve Kratzke 20 Julie Abraham 21 Michael Savonis 22 Carol Hammel Smith 23 24 1 Jessica Wilson 2 3 4 C O N T E N T S 5 6 SPEAKER PAGE 7 Julie Becker 10 Adam Lee 13 8 Dennis McGinn 17 David Westcott 21 9 Mark Cooper 25 Lena Pons 28 10 Eliza Berry 32 Ann Mesnikoff 35 11 Doug Molof 39 Matt Dernoga 42 12 Jazzlin Allen 45 Sam Blodgett 47 13 Joseph Frewer 51 Annie Chau 54 14 Marissa Knodel 57 Matthew Du Pont 60 15 Barry Bernsten 64 Pamela Woodward 67 16 Eli Hopson 69 Caroline Keicher 74 17 Christina Marie Yagjian 78 Julie Locascio 82 18 Tara Morrow 85 Heather Moyer 88 19 Emanuel Figueroa 91 Mari E. Castellanos 93 20 Sarah Karlin 94 Jim Pierobon 98 21 Allison Forbes 100 Debbie Linick (for Ron Halber) 102 22 Rita Rodgers 104 James Keck 107 23 Rabbi Fred Dobb 111 24 Fred Teal, Jr. 114 Alina Fortson 118 Matt Kirby 120 Jaafar Rizvi 123 Ben Schreiber 127 Ami Greener 130 Robert Dawes 135 Catherine Easton 137 Elizabeth McGurk 140 Charles Yoder 142 Emily Spear 144 tsh 4 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 MR. KRATZKE: I'd like to welcome you to our public hearing on the draft 3 environmental impact statement for our proposed corporate average fuel economy standards 4 or CAFE rule for cars and light trucks for model years 2011 through 2015. 5 Before I start a brief overview of some ground rules, I'd like to ask you to 6 please ensure that your cell phone is set to vibrate or silent. It can be distracting, especially 7 if your ring tone is unique. 8 As you can see, we have nearly 60 people registered to present their thoughts 9 and share their perspectives on this topic with us. So we'd like to get started right away. If 10 you do the math of five minutes per speaker times 60, we have five hours worth of 11 presentations. 12 Just so that it's clear to everyone, speakers will present in the order in which 13 they registered with us. If you have not registered, we'd like to ask you to do so at the back 14 of this room. We want to hear from everyone who has thoughts to share with us now. 15 If a speaker is not present for their scheduled time, they will be moved to the 16 end of the list. They will be allowed to speak, but we are going to move ahead as quickly as 17 we can to make sure we hear from everyone. 18 To begin, I'd like to introduce myself and the panel here to listen to your 19 comments today. I am Steve Kratzke. I am the associate administrator for rulemaking for 20 the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. And my office is responsible for 21 performing the environmental analysis for this rulemaking, and for doing the rulemaking on tsh 5 1 the corporate average fuel economy standards for those years. 2 On our panel today besides me we have four people who are much more 3 aware than I am of our proposed rule and the draft environmental impact statement. And I'd 4 like to introduce them. 5 On my right I have Julie Abraham, who is the director for our office of 6 international policy, fuel economy, and consumer programs. Ms. Abraham led the effort to 7 both put out our proposed standards for 2011 through 2015, and this environmental impact 8 statement. 9 On my left I have Mr. Mike Savonis, who is the team leader for the CAFE 10 rulemaking environmental impact statement team. Mr. Savonis is the one who has 11 orchestrated and coordinated this large effort. 12 On the far right of the table is Ms. Carol Hammel Smith, who is a program 13 analyst for NHTSA in our CAFE office. She specializes in environmental analysis. And on 14 the far left we have Ms. Jessica Wilson who is an attorney in our chief counsel's office. 15 So we feel like we have the people here who really understand what we have 16 put forward as our analysis, and we would like to hear the reactions of the interested public 17 to that proposed analysis. 18 Our schedule for the day is going to begin with 19 Ms. Abraham giving a brief overview of our environmental impact statement project. And 20 then we are going to spend the rest of the day hearing from you. 21 We are going to have lunch from 12:30 to 1:30, and we will have breaks from tsh 6 1 time to time so that people don't have to run out and miss what's here. 2 Since we have a lot of people who would like to speak, I am going to call 3 people up in groups of 12 to be seated near the podium. This will allow us to make a 4 quicker transition when people are speaking. 5 We have a court reporter today here with us in front of the podium who is 6 going to prepare a verbatim transcript of the testimony. The transcript will be available in 7 our public docket. 8 We are going to videotape the proceedings as well, and so we ask for both of 9 these sources so that when you begin to speak, please state your name and speak clearly for 10 the record so that we can correctly identify you. 11 Due to the number of speakers, your comments are going to be limited to five 12 minutes. We're going to notify you with a green card which will be held up in back when it 13 is okay for you to start. And we will indicate to you when you have one minute remaining 14 of your time by holding up a yellow card, and giving an audible remark of one minute. 15 When the five minutes are completed, we will hold up a red card and give an 16 audible statement of time's up. At that point, we would appreciate it if you would wrap up 17 your comments. We'd like to give everyone a chance to present today, so we're not going to 18 be granting extensions of the five minutes of allotted time. 19 I would like to make clear that we're in the middle of a comment period. We 20 want all of you to give us full comments where you can make sure that we have a record of 21 what you believe needs to be conveyed. That is due in two weeks, on August 18th. tsh 7 1 Today is for you to have five minutes to talk to the people who are going to 2 prepare the environmental impact statement, and make sure that we understand your major 3 points. We need to hold to that five minutes. 4 As this is our chance to hear from you, since you've already had the 5 opportunity to read our hundreds of pages draft environmental impact statement, there 6 aren't going to be questions and answers in this hearing. We want to hear from you. 7 We'd also like to thank you for your interest in this issue, and for taking the 8 time out of your schedules to come to this hearing. We are really looking forward to hearing 9 your perspectives, your suggestions, and your views of what are the most important things, 10 good, bad, or just not covered in our draft environmental impact statement. 11 And with that, I would like Ms. Abraham now to give a brief overview of the 12 draft environmental impact statement. I thank you. 13 MS. ABRAHAM: Thank you, Mr. Kratzke, and good morning everybody. 14 I would like to begin by reviewing briefly the recent steps that brought us to this hearing. 15 In March and in April, NHTSA informed the public through notices in the 16 Federal Register regarding our plans to prepare the draft environmental impact statement or 17 for short, draft EIS. 18 First, on March 28th, we published a notice announcing our intent to prepare 19 an EIS and requesting scoping comments. One month later we published a supplemental 20 notice of public scoping. 21 The purpose of these notices was to request public views and comments on tsh 8 1 the scope of the agency's analysis, including the impacts and alternatives that the draft EIS 2 should address, as well as to inform NHTSA of any available studies that would assist us in 3 the impact analysis of global climate change and other issues. 4 On May 2nd we published our notice of proposed rulemaking, proposing 5 fuel economy standards for model years 2011 through 2015 for both passenger cars and light 6 trucks. 7 Under the proposal the average fuel economy for cars would begin at 31.2 8 miles per gallon for model year 2011, an increase to 35.7 miles per gallon for model year 9 2015; while the average fuel economy for light trucks would begin at 25 miles per gallon for 10 model year 2011 and increase to 28.6 miles per gallon for model year 2015.