SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, the Leader of the Opposition Was Not Allowed to Enter Jammu and Kashmir, Kishtwar District
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1 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 PK-VNK/1A/11.00 The House met at eleven of the clock, Mr. CHAIRMAN in the Chair. ..... SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: Sir, the Leader of the Opposition was not allowed to enter Jammu and Kashmir, Kishtwar district. ..(Interruptions).. Sir, we are the Council of States. ...(Interruptions).. K ^W : ह, c- ह ...()... c- ह ह ह ह, c- `G ह ह... ()... SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU: It is a very serious matter concerning the security and integrity of the nation. ...(Interruptions).. The Leader of the Opposition ...(Interruptions).. has not been allowed to go to Jammu and Kashmir second time. ...(Interruptions).. So, I would like the Chair to give him permission to explain what situation there is. ...(Interruptions)... And, then, we can discuss it later. ...(Interruptions).. K ^W : ह, c- # # ह ...()... , ह ह ...()... 2 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 MR. CHAIRMAN: LoP has a right prescriptive to speak. ...(Interruptions).. Mr. Jaitley, do you wish to say anything? ...(Interruptions).... One minute, please. ...(Interruptions).. K ^W K : , c- ह Z ह ...()... MR. CHAIRMAN: Please allow the Leader of the Opposition to speak. ...(Interruptions).. Please don’t come into the Well. ...(Interruptions).. Please don’t come into the Well. ...(Interruptions).. Please don’t do that. ...(Interruptions)... No, no, please don’t do this. ...(Interruptions)... The Leader of the Opposition, please. ...(Interruptions).. No banners. ...(Interruptions)... No banners here. ...(Interruptions).. I am sorry. ...(Interruptions)... I am sorry. ...(Interruptions).. This is outrageous. What are you doing? ...(Interruptions).. Silence, please. ...(Interruptions).. Silence, please. ...(Interruptions).. Allow the Leader of the Opposition to speak. ...(Interruptions).. Please go back to your places. ...(Interruptions).. Please go back. ...(Interruptions).. Mr. Chowdary, please go back. ...(Interruptions).. Please don’t do this. ..(Interruptions).. Please 3 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 don’t do this. ...(Interruptions).. Allow the Leader of the Opposition to speak. ...(Interruptions).. Please don’t do this. ...(Interruptions).. Please go back to your places. ...(Interruptions).. There shall be no waiving of banners. , ह ...()... The House is adjourned for fifteen minutes. ...... The House then adjourned at three minutes past eleven of the clock. Pb-DS/1b/11.15 The House reassembled at eighteen minutes past eleven of the clock, MR. CHAIRMAN in the Chair. ----- MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes; hon. Leader of Opposition. ...(Interruptions)... Please. Please. ...(Interruptions)... Silence, please. ...(Interruptions)... Silence, please. ...(Interruptions)... Jaitleyji, please. ...(Interruptions)... Please. ...(Interruptions)... If you have an issue, take it up in Zero Hour. ...(Interruptions)... Please take it up in Zero Hour if you have an issue. ...(Interruptions)... Zero Hour, please. ...(Interruptions)... No, no; please don’t disrupt. ...(Interruptions)... Please allow the LoP to speak. 4 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 ...(Interruptions)... This is not correct. ...(Interruptions)... No, no. ...(Interruptions)... Zero Hour, please; don’t raise Zero Hour issue now. ...(Interruptions)... Please. Please go back to your place. ...(Interruptions)... Don’t shout slogans. Don’t show banners. ...(Interruptions)... ..().. Please go back to your places. ...(Interruptions)... Please. Please go back to your places. ...(Interruptions)... Please. ...(Interruptions)... Arunji, please. ...(Interruptions)... Yes, yes; Zero Hour, please. ...(Interruptions)... Please. ...(Interruptions)... Please. ...(Interruptions)... Take up your issue during Zero Hour, not now. ...(Interruptions)... Please. Please. ...(Interruptions)... Yes, Arunji, please. ...(Interruptions)... (Contd. by 1c/SKC) Pb-SKC-HMS/11:20/1C MR. CHAIRMAN (CONTD.) : Zero Hour; Zero Hour...(Interruptions)... Please. ...(Interruptions)... K Z` : , ह` ह ह Z- ह ह ..().. K : _ ..().. _ 5 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 K ^W : , c- 8 ..().. - 8 ह ह ह ह ..()... MR. CHAIRMAN : You have a valid point, but let the hon. Leader of Opposition speak. ..().. K ^W : c- ह--ह ह ..().. K : ..().. , ..().. ..().. _, _ I have given permission to the hon. Leader of Opposition to speak. ...(Interruptions)... , ..().. What is this? _, _, _ One minute, please. ...(Interruptions)... We will have the Question Hour after that. ...(Interruptions)... We will have the Question Hour after he has finished speaking. ...(Interruptions)... ..().. Please sit down. ..().. _, _, , ..().. What is this? ...(Interruptions)... , , please ...(Interruptions)... SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK : Sir, we want the Question Hour. ...(Interruptions)... 6 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 SHRI SATYAVRAT CHATURVEDI : What are the questions that the hon. Member wants to ask? ...(Interruptions)... Why should we...(Interruptions)... SHRI M. VENKAIAH NAIDU : Sir, the Ruling Party itself does not want the House to run. ...(Interruptions)... MR. CHAIRMAN : Hon. Members, please ...(Interruptions)... K ^W : ह ह ह ह c- 8 , c- ..().. K : ..().. K ^W : ह # हZ ह ह ह c- `G ह..().. K : , , ..().. K ^W : ह ह ह 8 K ह ह? ..().. MR. CHAIRMAN : I have given permission to the hon. Leader of Opposition to speak. ...(Interruptions)... K ^W : ह c- ह ह ह ह ह ह, ह # Z- ह ह ह..().. 7 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 MR. CHAIRMAN : Nothing of this is going on record. ...(Interruption)... K ^W : * K : ..().. , _ Satishji , please tell the hon. Member not to create a ...(Interruptions)... Please...(Interruptions)... K ^W * K ^W K : , ह ह ]E ह, ह ह ह..().. MR. CHAIRMAN : Please ...(Interruptions)... You can raise issues during the Zero Hour. ...(Interruptions)... This is not the time for it. ...(Interruptions)... _, ..().. K ^W : * MR. CHAIRMAN : You are wasting your breath. This is not going on record. ...(Interruptions)... K ^W : * ----------------------------- *Not recorded. 8 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 K ह : , c ह, ..().. K ^W : * K ह : , , ह G .. K ^W : * K : ह ..().. K ह : , ? , H ..().. , ह, H ..().. K ^W : * K : K# ह ह? ह ह ह ह G ह ह ह K ^W : * K : ह ह ह This will not be recorded. ..() K ^W : * * Not recorded. 9 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 K 0 : , ह ..() MR. CHAIRMAN : What am I to do? ...(Interruptions)... K 0 : , ह ..().. ह ...().. K : ह ह! This is anarchy. This is not order. ...(Interruptions)... K ह : , H ह ह ह K : , ह, ह but this is not Zero Hour. K ^W K : , ह ..().. K : ^ह# ◌ ह, ..().. The House is adjourned till 1200 hours. --- The House then adjourned at twenty-five minutes past eleven of the clock. -SKC/HK-KLG/12.00/1d The House reassembled at twelve of the clock, MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN in the Chair. 10 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 ---- SHRI RAVI SHANKAR PRASAD : Sir, the LoP must be allowed to raise the issue of Kishtwar. ...(Interruptions)... It is an important issue. Give him some time. ...(Interruptions)... MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Hon. LoP can raise the issue if he would like to raise. ...(Interruptions)... Please, LoP should be heard. ...(Interruptions)... K ^W K : , K ह ह # ...()... MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no, please. ...(Interruptions)... K ^W K : , ह ..()... ह ह ह ह ह, ^ह ...()... K : ..()... ...()... K ^ : , ह ह ...()... ह # ...() K : ...()... , ...()... Let me speak. ...(Interruptions)... I will tell you. ...(Interruptions)... If you take your seat, I will tell you. ...(Interruptions)... 11 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 SHRI SATISH CHANDRA MISRA : Please tell us. ...(Interruptions)... , ? MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : I don't know what the hon. LoP is going to say. What I am saying is that because LoP wants to speak, it is the practice in the House that he will be allowed and he will be heard in silence by all. That is one. After that, there is already Zero Hour. Those who have given Zero Hour notices, they will be allowed. ...(Interruptions)... K ^W K : ह, ह H ह ह ह ^ , ह P , c- , ह # , ह ह ह ह ...()... ह ह ह ह , ह G ह P ह ह ह P - ह ह ह ह - K , ह # ह ह ह ह , ह ह ह ...()... ह, ह ह ह ह ]E ह, 12 Uncorrected/ Not for Publication-12.08.2013 ह He has been killed and, therefore, you can understand our anxiety. ...(Interruptions)... You should understand our anxiety. We are not saying that he should not be allowed; we say that he should be allowed. The son of bSP's District President has been killed. So, we want to speak on this. You have to give consent for that. After LoP's speech if you say that now normal procedure will follow, then we will have difficulty. Therefore, we would like to have this assurance from you. You may allow LoP, and then you may allow us. ...(Interruptions)... Zero Hour is something different. You are allowing LoP to speak on this issue; you kindly allow us also. ...(Interruptions)... I have given you the reason also. District President's son has been killed. ...(Interruptions)... MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN : Misraji , I see your point. K# ह ? K ^W K : ह ह ह K_ ह ह It has been accepted. ...(Interruptions)... It has been accepted. ...(Interruptions)... K : P, P , ह ह, - G ..()... 13 Uncorrected/