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Interview with Ambassador Victor L. Tomseth Library of Congress Interview with Ambassador Victor L. Tomseth The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training Foreign Affairs Oral History Project AMBASSADOR VICTOR L. TOMSETH Interviewed by: Charles Stuart Kennedy Initial interview date: May 13, 1999 Copyright 2004 ADST [Note: This interview has not been edited by Ambassador Tomseth] Q: Today is May 13, 1999. This is an interview with Victor L. Tomseth. This is being done on behalf of The Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training. I am Charles Stuart Kennedy. To start with, when and where were you born and could you tell me something about your parents and your family? TOMSETH: I was born in Eugene, Oregon and grew up in Springfield, which is right next door. I was there for the first 22 years of my life. I went to the University of Oregon, which is in Eugene. My father's parents were Norwegian immigrants. They actually met in Minnesota, however, and married there and then came out to the Northwest in the early part of the 19th century. My mother's background is basically Scotch Irish out of the hills of Appalachia early in the 18th century and through the Midwest and eventually to the West Coast, California and Interview with Ambassador Victor L. Tomseth http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001471 Library of Congress then Oregon. Springfield is a very working class, blue collar town. All of my family on both sides were either saw millers or loggers. As I said, I went to the University of Oregon. Q: Did you have any brothers and sisters? TOMSETH: I have one brother, younger, and one sister, younger. Q: Were your parents college graduates? TOMSETH: No. Q: Very few of our generation have parents who went to college. It was less than 10% of the population. TOMSETH: Yes, probably. They were high school graduates, but no college. A few of my older cousins had gone to college before I went. Q: What about at home? Was it a family who sit around the table discussing things, read, or not? How did it work? TOMSETH: Well, this is sort of jumping ahead a little bit. When I was a kid, my parents bought a set of “The World Book Encyclopedia” at one point. I subsequently told people that I think I probably passed the Foreign Service written examination because I memorized that. Q: This was something that grabbed you? TOMSETH: Not the Foreign Service. I had no idea what that was. But I was interested in the world. My father was a member of the National Geographic Society, so I grew up looking at those and studying the maps. Q: In what year were you born? Interview with Ambassador Victor L. Tomseth http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001471 Library of Congress TOMSETH: 1941. Q: So World War II was not part of your background. TOMSETH: No. I remember Roosevelt dying in April of 1945 and the end of the war in the Pacific. We were sitting out in the yard on an August day. All of the mill whistles and sirens went off. For some reason, that stuck in my mind. Q: How about school? Lets talk about elementary school first. TOMSETH: It was in Springfield, Oregon, a public school, District 19. At that time, Springfield grew fairly rapidly at the end of the war. It was a lumber economy. It was about 3,000 people in 1940 and 10,000 in 1950 and 20,000 in 1960. Q: The building boom, particularly after the war, the end of the Depression. Everybody wanted to have houses. TOMSETH: That is exactly right. It was a pretty good time for the lumber industry. Q: Were there any particular courses or anything that you recall at the elementary level? TOMSETH: No, not really, but I was always interested in and fairly good at math and science. I suppose the courses I had through elementary, junior high school, and high school, the ones that stand out and the teachers who taught them that stand out in my mind were science and mathematics courses, not history, social studies, or things like that. Q: High school. What high school did you go to? TOMSETH: Springfield High School, the only one at that time. You sort of grow up in an environment like that knowing everyone from the first grade and you go all through school with them. Interview with Ambassador Victor L. Tomseth http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001471 Library of Congress Q: What activities were you involved in? TOMSETH: Well, I loved to play basketball. I wasn't all that good at it, but I worked at it. I played some other sports, such as football and baseball. I also played in the band. Q: What instrument did you play? TOMSETH: I played trumpet and baritone. The keying is the same even though they're in different registers. Q: What about summer jobs? TOMSETH: At that time, what most kids (This was in the age before McDonald's, Wendy's, and all that.) did before they were 16 was work picking things in agriculture: cherries, strawberries, green beans... After 16, you could also work at things like canneries (There were a couple of canneries there.), picking peaches, apples, that sort of thing. But in high school, I got a part time job with a car dealership washing cars. That was after school and on weekends. Q: Were you continuing in your math and science courses? Did this continue to be your interest? TOMSETH: Yes. In high school, my focus was very much on math and science. I liked history and what went by the rubric of social studies (I don't know what they call it these days.). Maybe the teachers weren't as good. Maybe the material wasn't as compelling. I don't know. But math and science is what really grabbed me at that point. Q: You were at the University of Oregon, which was right around the corner, wasn't it? TOMSETH: Two miles away from the house I grew up in, right across the bridge. Q: You were there from when to when? Interview with Ambassador Victor L. Tomseth http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001471 Library of Congress TOMSETH: I started in 1959 as a math and science major. During the course of that year, I discovered I hated analytical geometry and I hated organic chemistry. I think it had something to do with the temperature in the rooms during the winter months. At the end of the year, I had a 1.4 GPA (grade point average). I had stopped going to class. I quit and went to work in the woods for a year. Q: When you say you went to work in the woods, what were you doing? TOMSETH: Logging. In the course of a year, I discovered I hated logging and went back to the University in 1961. I wound up as a history major. Q: I was a history major. One tries out these other things. TOMSETH: For me, it was a process of elimination. Q: So you were there from 1961 to when? TOMSETH: I nearly caught up in my class. I graduated in December of 1963. Q: Was there any particular area of history? TOMSETH: Yes. There were two: modern Japanese history and American history. Q: This was before the great trade business with the Far East, particularly with Japan. Did the Orient intrude at all into Eugene? TOMSETH: I wound up doing that mainly because a friend had taken the basic survey course in Japanese history and said that the professor who taught it was extremely good. I had a history requirement that had to satisfy outside the American history focus that I had. I said, “Why not? I'll give it a try?” It turned out this guy really was good. I was very interested in the history, as it turned out. Interview with Ambassador Victor L. Tomseth http://www.loc.gov/item/mfdipbib001471 Library of Congress As for the university itself, I am not sure how this came about, but there was a very good museum of northeastern oriental art there. Much of the collection was given to the university by an alumnus, but what his connection with the Far East was, I don't know. Q: What about the student body? Was this pretty much white? TOMSETH: There were some foreign students there, though not a lot. There were some East Asian, some South Asians (Indians for the most part) and some Africans, but not a huge number. This was basically a Wonder Bread kind of university at that time, overwhelmingly white. About half of the student body was actually from California. The ratio of males to females was more than two to one at that time. Q: More males? TOMSETH: Yes. A lot of the women there were there basically to find a husband, so you had a relatively low percentage of female students graduating. Q: What about activities there? TOMSETH: Well, I played a little bit of intramural sports, but other than that, I was basically hanging out with friends. Q: No band? TOMSETH: No, I had given that up. Q: One of your colleagues who later became a consular officer in various parts of Thailand has been interviewed by me. TOMSETH: Interestingly enough, when I was in Thailand the first time in Udorn, there was a staff officer who was married to a Japanese, a guy named Bob Charlton. He had graduated from Springfield High School 10 years before me. Interview with Ambassador Victor L.
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