LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

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[Ni(lth Series, Vol. XIII, Sixth Session, 199111912 (Saka)]

No.7, Tuesday, January 8, 1991/Pausa 18,1912 (Saka)

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Oral Answers to Questions: 1-28

·Starred Question Nos. 162 to 166

Written Answers to Questions: 29--413

Starred Question Nos. 167 to 181 29-43

Unstarred Question Nos. 1861 to 2094 43-413

Re. Reported Discounnection of Electricity 413-427 to Thompson Press in Faridabad and Alleged Attempt to curb Freedom of the Press

Re. Reported interview given by the Minister of 427---461 Commerce and Minister of Law and Justice, Shri Subramaniam Swamy, to the Financial Times, London, about Taxation

Papers Laid on the Tclble 462--469

~ommittee on Petitions 470

Second Report-Presented

'3tatements under Direction 115 470-473

Re. Reply to usa No. 4055 dated 11.9.1990 on Acquisition of land in Himachal Pradesh for Military Transit Camp .

Shri Maheshwar Singh 470-472

Shri Lalit Vljoy Singh 472--473

e Sign + marked above the name of a M.cmber indicates that the question was actually ~Qd on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

CoLUMNS

Business Advisory Committee 473-479

Eighteenth Report-Adopted

Matters Under Rule 377 479-485

(I) Need to develop Azhikkal Port in 479-480 Cannanore district, Kerala

Shri MullapaJIy Ramachandran

(il) Need to develop Tadoba National Park in 480 Chandrapur and Markanda Temple in Gadchiroli districts of Maharashtra as tounst spots

Shri Shantaram Potdukhe

( III) Need to settle pending cases of freedom 481 fighters' pension expeditiously

Shn Uttam Rathod

(IV) Need to Include Mantpun language in the 481-482 Eighth Schedule of the Constitution

Prof. N Tombl Singh

(v) Need 10 withdraw the Increase tn eXCise 482 and customs duty on man-made fibre yarn

Shn Kashlram Chhablldas Rana

J, (VI) Need to bnng pay scales and other faCIlities 482-483 of Anganbadl workers at par Wlt~ those of Government employees

Shn SarJu Prasad SaroJ

(VII) Need to name some streeVroad/lane in 48· Deihl after Shn Gopabandhu Das, Shri Madhusudan Das and Shn Knshna Chandra GaJapathi Oeo, the emment personalities of Orissa

Shn A.N. Singh Deo (iii)

COLUMNS

(viii) Need for early completion of Naval Academy 484 at Ezhimala. Kerala

Shri M. Ramanna Raj

(ix) Need to issue licences for setting up huBer 485 machines for the benefit of BhurJee Community

Shri Santosh Kumar Gangwar

Chief Election CommissIoner and other Election 486-524 Commissioners (Conditions of Ser\tice) Bill

Motion to consider

Shri L.K. Advani 486-489

Dr. Thambi Durai 489--491

Shri Dharm Pal Sharma 491--493

Shri Chitta Basu 493-497

Shri Madan Lal Khurana 497-499

Shri Peter G. Marbaniang 499-501

Shri Ram Krishan Yadav 501-502

Shri Vamanrao Mahadik 502-503

Prof. Prem Kumar DhLJmal 504

S. Atinder Pal. Singh 505-506

Shri Shikiho Serna 506-507

Shri Gulab Chand t

Shri P.C. Thomas 509-510

Shri Hansh Rawat 510-512

Shri Girdhari Lal Bhargav

Shri Subramaniam Swamy 513-518 (IV)

COLUMNS

Clauses 2 to 8 and 1 520-521

Motion to Pass

Shri Subramaniam Swamy 521--524

Discussion under Rule 193' 524-580

Continued rise in Prices of Essential Commodities in the country

Shri G. M. Banatwalla 524-528

Shri Chand Ram 528-530

Shri Satyanarayan Jatiya 530-532

Shn P. Narsa Reddy 532-534

Shn A.K. Roy 534-537

Shn Het Ram 537-539

Shri RaJendra Agnihotri 539-541

Shn Nlrmal Kanti Chatterjee 541-544

Shn Dharm Pal Sharma 544-546

Shri Mitra Sen Vadav 546-547

S. Atmder Pal Singh 547-548

Dr Thambl Dural 548-550

Shri Surya Narayan Yadav 550-552

Shn C.K Kuppuswamy 553-554

Shri Vamanrao Mahadik 554-557

Shn Kanel Panneer Selvam 557-558 (v)

COLUMNS

Rao Birender Singh 560-578

Announcement by Speaker 558-559

ObservatIon Re. Receipt on Interim Notice from High court of Delhi LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOKSABHA student and wanted to go to Perth in Austra- lia to make a living. He was reported to be under mental tension.

Tuesday. January 8, 1991IPausa 18,1912 ( Inte"uptions) (Saka) SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA: Sir, I would like to know throug h you from the hon. Minister under what circumstances this boy could The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock enter into the aircraft without security check and all that: what was the instrument or [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] weapon through which he tried to hijack the aircraft and if at all any weapon was found ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS with him. how did he escape the security check. [English] SHAI HARMOHAN DHAWAN: Mr. Hijacking of Indian Airlines Aircraft Speaker, Sir, the security check was there. When the investigation was completed, it *162. SHAI BALGOPAL MISHAA: Will was found that there was no hand-grenade the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased as he alleged that he was having in his hand. to state: Ultimately it was found that he had a pears soap, which was engulfed in his handkerchief. (a) whether the Government are aware There was no arm with him. that an attempt was made by a 27 year old youth to hijack the Indian Airlines aircraft on SHAt BALGOPAl MISHWA: Sir, I would Coimbatore-Bangalore flight sometime in the like to draw your attention to the second part second week of September, 1990; of the statement of the hon. Minister, in which he mentioned that the youth was a (b) If SO, whether the Youth was arrested technical graduate and he was under a tre- and interrogated; and mendous mental tension. This very fact should not be taken very lightly. This shows (c) if so, the reasons for hijacking the that unemployment is leading to frustration aircraft? and frustration is leading to all these sorts of activities. As a result of which we are having THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE these activities in Punjab, Kashmir, Assam MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI and other parts of the country. HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes. Sir. MR. SPEAKER: Please put your ques- (b) Yes, Sfr. tion. j I (c) The accused was an engineering SHRI BALGOPAl MISHRA: I am com- 3 Oral Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Oral Answe/S 4 ing to the question. This should be an ev.e· MR. SPEAKER: let him complete, Mr. opener for the Government of India. f wo~d Janardhanan. like to know from the Min;ster as to what are the opportunities they are going to create for SHRt HARMOHAN DHAWAN: I have the youth in future in Air India and Indian report from Karnataka Government as well Airlines. as from Tamil Nadu Government and the full fads are there. The case is already registered [ Trans/ation] against the accused and the proceedings are going on (lnttlrruptions) MR. SPEAKER: This question does not arise out of the original question. MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat, Mr. Janardhanan. [English] [ Translation] SHRI KADAMBUR M. R. JANARDHANAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank SHRI RAM NAIK: Mr. Speaker, Sir, if he you very much for giving me an opportunity is an Indian national we feel that the mental to ask a supplementary. I am sorry to inform tension is an excuse. However, we would the Minister that there is lot of distortion of liRe to know the cause of mental tension. If information in part (c) of his reply. He has told the cause is valid the why a case against that the accused was an engineering him? graduate and was going to Austratia. But on that particular day, in all the Tamil newspa- [English] pers it was reported that the boy had come from Sri Lanka and was mentally retarded. SHRI HARMOHAN DHAWAN: Mr. Therefore, I want to know from the Minister Speaker, Sir, I would like to inform the hon. that from which Department he has got this Member that the case has been registered. information, whether from the Civil Aviation From whatever investigations have so far Ministry or from the Home Department of been carried out, no motive has been at- Tamil Nadu. The Tamil Nadu Home De- tached to it. In fact, some fears were ex- partment has been giving such false news, pressed that some organisation's support is hiding the Sri Lankan bulletins. Therefore, I there but nothing such has been established. wantto know categorically from the Minister It is just a whimsical thinking of the young whether the reply has come from the Home man. He was out of job. For a living he Department of Tamil Nadu or from the Centre. wanted to go to Australia and he told the In the Tamil newspapers it was not at all captain that he wanted to go to Colombo and reported that he was an Australian. He was from there he wanted to go to Parth in reported to be a citizen from Sri Lanka. Australia. This is the factual position and the facts are there before us. SHAI HARMOHAN DHAWAN: Sir, I would like to inform the hon. Member that Mr. SHRIMATI UMA GAJAPATHI RAJU: Mahalingam, the 27 years old young engi- Sir, I would like to know from the hon. Min- neering student was a native of Coimbatore ister that in the light of the problems in the and he had boarded the plane which was to troubled States of Assam. Kashmir and go to Madras via Bangalore. IC-534 is the Punjab, what steps is the Government tak· flight number. So, to say that he is a Sri ing to ensure security measures and what Lankan citizen is wrong. The fact is that he type of equipment or security devices are was a native from Coimbatore and he was they having to see that the hijackers do not under mental tension and for his living he pass through these security devices unno- wanted to go to Australia. In fact. he told the ticed. especially at the smaller airports. cockpit crew people that he wanted to go to Colombo. This is the factual SHRI HARMOHAN DHAWAN: Sir, al- position ...... ( Intenvptions) though what the han. Member has asked is 5 Oral Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answ91S 6

not connected with the question. but what .. Districts of Uttar PradQsh have been sanc- ever has come to our notice is that there is a tioned by the REC so far for financial qsis- tradition of constant security check and vari- tance of Rs. 128. 18 crores. ous equipment are needed to check the things. I cannot right now say what action is (c) to (f). No specific limit of expenditure being taken in this regard. As and when the per village has been fixed by the Rural situation arises. we are quite aware of it and Electrification Corporation. we are going to tighten the security measures. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Mr. Speaker. [ Translation] Sir, while expressing my dissatisfaction over the apathy shown in the.matter of sanction- Electrification of Hilly Areas In Uttar ing rural electrification Schemes by Rural Pradesh Electrification Corporation, I would like to know from the honourable Minister the *163. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the number of rural electrification schemes for- Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: warded by the Uttar Pradesh E Jectricity Board last year and how many of them have been (a) whether the Union Government sanctioned and also the reasons for not have received proposals regarding the rural sanctioning them on a time bound basis by electrification of the hilly areas from the the Union Ministry? Government of Uttar Pradesh; SHRI BABANRAO DHAKNE: Mr. (b) if so, the details thereof; Speaker, Sir. the Uttar Pradesh Electricity Board submitted a State level scheme which (c) whether any limit on expenditure par included eight hill districts. In these eight village, has been fixed by the Rural Electri- districts, there are nearly 651 villages and fication Corporation, for the approved electrification thereof has been sanctioned schemes; for this year. The work is likely to begin shortly. (d) if so. the details thereof; SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Mr. Speaker, (e) whether the programme to extend Sir, there are complaints of misuse of money e1ectrification facilities to the hilly areas is allotted for such works and also of diversion being adversely affected due to the limit of funds. But such complaints regarding these fixed on expenditure; and schemes of hill areas are more serious. On the basis of the information available, the Union Ministry has decided that. whatever (f) if so, when these restrictions are be the population of the village as per the proposed to be removed? census of 1981. only 50 electric poles will be installed there. Problem is that in the hilly areas the distance between one village and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the other is considerable. Moreover, the MINlSTRY OF ENERGY (SHR1 BABANRAO terrain is also difficult. Villages are small and DHAKNE): (a) and (b). No separate proposal the population is also scattered. The villages specially for hilly area of Uttar Pradesh has baing eledrified by the State Electricity Board been received in the Central Government. are not being electrified fully. This is creating The Districtwise RE activities are finalised at discontent among the local people. I would the State level basis on the availability of like to know from the Honourable Minister, funds and inter-se priority fixed by the State through you, whether the norms for putting Government. 206 rural electrification up electric poles and sanctioning of funds schemes sponsored by the UPSEB for have bean fixed by his Ministry on the basis eiectrificatiol"lof 14757 village. in the 8 hilly of population? 7 Oral AnswetS JANUARY 8, 1991 Oral Answers 8

SHRI KALYAN SINGH KALVI: Mr. completed in Uttar Pradesh. The h~n. Minis- Speaker, Sir, I would like to clarify that we ter has misled the House to some extent. have not shown any indifference towards the ...... (lnt9rruptions) ...... 1would like to sub- development of hilly areas. Seventyone mit that the electrification of a particular percent of the villages in entire UP are village includes its Gram Sabha which cov- electrHied and in hilly areas 69.12 per cent ers hill area and also the plateau. One Gram villagers are electrified. So, no indifference Sabha consists of 10/12 small hamlets. But has been shown. However, the Planning electrification is done only in the main village Commission has fixed a criterion of Rs. 2.2 and an other hamlets are neglected. No lakh and we spend accordingly. We give electrification is done in these hamlets sanction for electrification taking some vil- whereas the fact is that their population is lages as a group. So, there is no restriction more than that of the Gram Sabha. Though whether the electrification of a particular the han. Minister claims to have completed village involves more expenditure or less. In 71 per cent electrification but it is 25 per cent Spite of this, H there are some hilly areas in hill areas and Bundelkhand plateaus of facing scarcity of electricity because of their Uttar Pradesh. In rest of the villages, electri- geographical and topographical conditions, fication work is tying inoomplete. Perhaps we will consider their requirement keeping in the target of 71 per cent electrHication might view their development. We will not allow the have been fulfilled by covering other re- villages to continue as scarcity areas. mainIng areas of Uttar Pradesh ..... (/nterruptions) ...... But what PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAl: Mr. measures are going to be taken to remove Speaker, Sir. the honourable Minister has this imbalance? What decision will be taken replied that there is no separate proposal for with regard to the electrification in the ham- hilly areas of Uttar Pradesh. Honourable Shri lets which come under a Gram Sabha. Kalviji has no doubt touched these points, but I want a clear assurance. Will any special SHRI KALYAN SINGH KALVI: Mr. Central assistance be given for the hilly Speaker, Sir, I have already stated that it is areas of Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal for the State Government to earmark the Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh so as to ensure villages proposed to be brought under speedy electrification of the backward and electrification programme. We provide funds hilly areas of these states? keeping in view the demands put forth by the State Government and monitor the progress SHRI KALYAN SINGH KALVI: Mr. of the work. Speaker, Sir, Rural Electrification Corpora- tion sanctions funds for the purpose of SHRI SHOPAT SINGH MAKKASAR: electr~ication in rural areas on demand from Mr. Speaker, Sir, through you I would like to the State Governments concerned. No funds ask the hon. Minister something with regard are sanctioned to any individual rather the to Rajasthan. (Interruptions) total amount is sanctioned to the State Government as per their total requirement. MR. SPEAKER: I would not oompsl the The Central Government monitors the hone Minister to say any thing in regard to progress of work of electrification besides Rajasthan. You can ask about Uttar Pradesh, giving financial assistance. We have nothing if you want...... (/nte"uptions) ...... to do with the spending of amount or according sanction for electrification of villages SHRI SHOPAT SINGH MAKKASAR: as such. As you have stated, facilities should be provided in hill areas. Villages in desert SHRt RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI: Mr. areas are also scattered at distant places in Speaker, Sir, in the reply given by the han. the same manner...... ( Interruptions) ...... MiQister, it has been claimed that 71 per cent electrification i.e. the full quota, has been SHRI KALYAN SINGH KALVI: Mr. 9 Oral Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA)

Speaker1 Sir, I would like to make it clear to Harijan areas published recently by the Gov- the hone Member, who belongs to Rajasthan, ernment of Uttar Pradesh is n01 that similar difficulties exist in hilly areas correct ...... (/nterruptions) ...... Will the hen. where villages are situated at distant places Minister direct the Government of Uttar say at 10-20 kilometres as well as in desert Pradesh to verify the list. if so by when and areas, Therefore, all geographical factors whether its raport will be placed on the table will be taken into consideration. of the House?

SHAI RAM DHAN: Mr. Speaker. Sir, the SHRI KALYAN SINGH KALVI: Mr. hone Minister has stated that the State Speaker, Sir. besides providing the list of Governments frame and also implement the Harijan colonies, electrification of those schemes, Central Government merely pro- Harijan colonies has been made compulsory. vides financial aid. However. the reality is which are adjacent to the villages proposed that the State Governments have been to be covered under the electrification spending the funds provided for this purpose programme. elsewhere. The Government of India had chalked out a plan for the electrification of [English] Harijan colonies but in fact these colonies were neglected and instead other colonies Power Availability have been brought in electrification programme. Recently, a Central team was *164. SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: sent to Uttar Pradesh do to coordination Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to work in rural areas but then it was withdrawn. state: Will the Government sent that team again so that the Government of Uttar Pradesh and (a) whethertheGovernment have drawn Electricity Board may fundion properly and up any plan for maximising power availability the funds are utilized in a proper manner. from the existing stations by reducing transmission and distribution tosses and SHAI KALYAN SINGH KALVI: Mr. improving plant load factor of thermal plants; Speaker, sir. we accord priority to the elec- and trification of Harijan colonies ...... (Interrup- tions) ...... (b) if so, the details thereof?

" SHAI RAM DHAN: Mr. Speaker. Sir, I [ Translation] seek your protection. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MA. SPEAKER: The hone Minister has MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO sta1a.d that priority is given to Harijan colonies. DHAKNE): (a) and (b). A Statement is laid on the Table of the House. SHRI RAM DHAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir. that was not my point. he is misleading the STATEMENT House. My submission is that the Central team which has been SE'nt to do the coordi- (a) and (b). Measures taken to maximise nation work in Uttar ·Pradesh has been power availability from the existing stations withdrawn. Funds which are allocated for include implementation of a Centrally particular purpose are diverted elsewhere. Sponsored Renovation & Modernisation The hon'ble Minister has not stated the steps programme for thermal power stations. ra· taken in this regard ...... (Interruptions) ...... duction of T&D losses, implementation of demand management and energy conser- SHRI R. N. RAKESH: Mr. Speaker, Sir. vation measures. 1ransfer of energy from the main question relates to the electrifica· surplus to deficit areas, arranging adequate tion in Uttar Pradesh. The list of identified quantity aAd quality of coal, training of op- 11 Oral AnswelS JANUARY 8, 1991 Oral AnswelS 12 aration and maintenance personnel etc. ( Interruptions) Power stations are constantly monitored by the Power utilities and the Central Electricity [English] Authority for maximising their generation. SHRI K. S. RAO: The first supplemen- [English] tary is not answered. (Interruptions) The question is very much related 10 the main SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: I would question. like to know from the hon. Minister whether it is a fact that forecast of power supply SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: I would versus demand envisaged by Working Group like to know whether Government of Andhra of Planning Commission has indicated a Pradesh has proposed the setting up of two deteriorating situation generally in Southern power stations at Visakhapatnam and region and particularly in Andhra Pradesh by Krishnapalnam of Nellore distrid and sent the end of 1994·95. the proposals to the Central Electricity Au- thority and, if so, what is the stage at which I woutd also like to know whether it is a they are at present; and fact that during the first three years of Eighth Five Year Plan, there are no new power (b) I would like to know whether it is a generating schemes in Andhra Pradesh. fact that a number of private parties have Therefore, to obviate this difficulty of serious approached the State Electricity Boards of power shortage, the Government of Andhra Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu Pradesh has proposed to take up sort ges- for setting up power generating units following tation·gas based Thermal power stations at the policy guidelines announced by the Vijjeswaram. Kakinada. Rajhmundry and Government to promote private sector par- Amalapuram. If so. what steps the Govern- ticipation in power generation. ment of India have taken to clear these projects and for providing natural gas to the (Trans/ation1 proJects? SHRI BABANRAO DHAKNE: Mr. Mr third part of the question is •.whether Speaker Sir. this supplementary question is the Government of India is aware of the fact not related to the main question. If the hon. that crisis is brewing up at ViJayawada Member gives separate notice then it will be Thermal power station due to serious drop of replied. supply of coal from T alcher coal mines in Orissa? H it is so, will the Government of MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Member. with India take some urgent steps to regularise reference to your specific question on Andhra the coal supply to Vijayawada Thermal sta· Pradesh. the'hon. Minister has said that he tion? would reply to it if separate notice is given.

[ Translation] SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: Mr. Speaker. Sir, through you, I would like to SHRI BABANRAO DHAKNE: Mr. know from the hon. Minister, whether it is a Speaker. Sir, separate notice is required for fact that even the 35% area of Rajasthan, this question which is being electrified. does not get adequate supply of electricity and if so, how the ...... (/nt9rruptions) ...... hon. Minister proposed to meet this shortage?

MR. SPEAKER: The han. Minister has THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHAI stated that he is unable to reply this specific KAlVAN SINGH KALVI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, question, you should give separate this Supplementary question is not related to notice. the main question. (Interruptions) 13 Ora/ AnswelS PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answets 14

[ Translation] Discussion on this. (/ntenvptions) I would like to saythatthis is a very important issue. Half- MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please an .. Hourdiscussion should be allowed. This take your seat. is a most important issue ... ( Interruptions) Throughout India this transmission and dis- ( Interruptions) tribution loss is very grave. Some urgent steps should be taken. I appeal to you to SHRI BABANRAO DHAKNE: Mr. allow an Half-an-Hour discussion Speaker, Sir, the main question is regarding transmission and distribution of electricity ( Int8ffuptions) and I am answering Supplementary Ques- tions related to the same. MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. Please take y~ur seat. [English] [ Translation] SHRI K. S. RAO: You must proted the House. The hon. Minister cannot evade the SHRI KALYAN SINGH KALVI: I would answer like this. How can the hon. Minister like to request the han. Members to first go pass on like this? You please tell the hon. through the main question and I am prepared Minister at least to come prepared next time. to answer any question related to that.

MR. SPEAKER: I think you have not [English] heard the hon. Minister. He says that he has no information regarding specific States and SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Sir, he has no details. He is unable to answer please look at the question. This is a serious that. matter. The Minister must understarYd that it is not a simple question. [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I have seen that. SHRI KAl VAN SINGH KALVI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I shall definitely answer the SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGALAM: The questions being asked by the han. Members, Question says: but so far as this particular question is concerned, it is regarding power transmission "Whether the Government have drawn and distribution and about which I have up any plan for maximising power already furnished the information to the availability from the existing stations by House. I am prepared to answer any reducing transmission and distribution Supplementary question related to the main losses and improving plant load factor question. But, the han. Members are asking of thermal plants, and questions about Rajasthan and Orissa. (In- terruptions)' if so, the details thereof"

[English] This goes to the whole gamut of power distribution in India. They cannot say that SHRI AJIT PANJA: Rajasthan is very this is beyond their scope and that is within much part of India. their scope. (/nte"uptions)

SHRI P. R. KUMAAAMANGALAM: let MR. SPEAKER: But he cannot answer the han. Minister come prepared tomorrow. that. He has to deal with it. But he confesses that he has not got the details about the SHRI AJIT PANJA: This is a very im- different States. You have to admit it. He has portant issue. Let us have Half-an-Hour to get the details. 15 Oral AnSW81S JANUARY 8, 1991 Oral AnswetS 16

emment.

SHRI ~. R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Let (b) if so, the details thereof; and there be an Half-an-Hour discussion on this subject. (c) if not, the reasons therefor?

[ Trans/ation] [ Translation]

SHRI KALYAN SINGH KAlVI: The THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Supplementary Question being asked are CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- about power generation, while the main MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA question is regarding transmission and dis- PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (c). No scheme tribution losses and load factor of thermal to allot petrol pumps and LPG agencies for plants. unemployed youths was finalised by the previous Government. However. as per ex- SHRIMATt SUBHASHINI ALI: You can isting policy for allotment of retail outlets talk eloquently about Roop Kunwar. bout (diesel/petrol dealerships) and LPG dis- you are unable to say a few words about the tributorships, preference is given to unem- power situation .. (/nterruptions) ployed graduates and unemployed engI- neering graduates over other applicants, [English] except Consumer Cooperative Societies, In the 'Open' category.

MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seats. [Eng/ish] I will look into it. I WitJ giv& my decision. all of you. please take your SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: Sir. unfor- seats ...... (/nterruptions) .. tunately. I have the English version of the answer sheet and therefore I will put my [ Translation] supplementaries in English. The hon. Minister has read it out in Hindi. But I have got the MR. SPEAKER: I want to say that I shall English copy of the answer. definitely look into Shri Ajit Panja's proposal for an half-an-hour discussion on this issue, MR. SPEAKER: Mandhalajl, is there but ~ would like to tell the hon. Minister that apy discrepancy between the written answer when questions of such comprehensive and the oral answer? nature are raised. the hon. Members arefree to ask supplementary questions about the SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: It doesn't States. Therefore. in future, he should keep make any difference In any way. this in mind and come prepared tothe House. MR. SPEAKER: That is all right. [English1 SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: I know the Allotment of Petrol Pumps and LPG hon. Minister personally. He is very well- Agencies To Unemployed Youths versed in English.

"165. SHAI MANDHATA SINGH: Will PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He has the MInister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- replied in English. It is in Roman script. That CALS be pleased to state: is all. (Interruptions)

(a) whether petrol pumps and LPG SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: I had ask~d agenci~s are being aUotted to unemployed whether the previous Government had youths as announced by the previous Gov- framed any policy regarding allotment of gas 17 Oral Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 agency and other related items to unem- thereafter on 4th October, a letter was sent ployed youth. And the answer says, no by the Prime Minister'S Office to the then scheme was finalised by the previous Gov- Secretary of Petroleum and thereafter nothing ernment. I want to ask .... (Interruptions) .... was done over it.

[ Translation] SHRI MANDHAT A SINGH: Reacting to the Minister's answer. MR. SPEAKER: This is an important question. SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: The sec- o!ld part has not come. ( Interruptions) SHAI MANOHATA SINGH: I reserve SHRt AJIT PANJA: Where has Shri V. my second question. P. Singh gone? he is absent.( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: What reserve? AN HON. MEMBER: He has gone along with Shri Rajiv Gandhi somewhere. (Inter- [ Translation] ruptions) You are asking your second supple¥ MR. SPEAKER: He has a right to put the mentary question. question. MandhataSinghji, please. address the Speaker. SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: I can connect two questions together. The Minister ( Int9rruptions) says that the Government was thinking. Firstly, I want to know whether that think- SHAI MANDHA TA SINGH: The answer in9···.. ··· given is: No scheme was finalised by the previous Government. It clearly indicates SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALAVIYA: I that the previous Government has done some said,letterwassentfromthe Prime Minister's spade work and it was not finalised. May I Office and not by Government. know from the Minister what spade work was done by the previous Government and SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: Yes. Shri V. whether the present Government proposes P. Singh represented that Government. I to pursue the same and act accordingly? hope, you concede that. I want to ask whether that thinking has stopped. And then the SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA: I related question is like this. The answer says think, Shri Mandhata Singh knows, the pre- that under the existing scheme of things vious Government was headed by Shri V. P. unemployed youths are given preference. Singh. Shri V. P. Singh made an an- May I know. during the last one year, how nouncement at the two public meetings one many unemployed youngmen were given was held in Madras and the other one was these facilities and will the Minister lay a held in Kerala on the 23rd of September, detailed statement on the Table of the House? 1990. And the announcement was," Gov- ernment is thinking of allotting petrol pumps, SHRI SATV A PRAKASH MALVIYA: So gas agencies and other agencies to those far as these figures are concerned. that is not meritorious students who are economically available with me. I will supply that to the weak. Such meritorious and aconomically han. Member. weak students will be provided loans from banks to establish and run these agencies. [ Translation] This will be done with a view to provide employment to educated youth and will be a SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Mr. step towards self-employment of youth. And Speaker, Sir. his question was whether that 19 Oral Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Oral Answers 20

thinking has stopped or is it under the oon- MR. SPEAKER: Yes Sirt these will be side rat ion of the Government? placed.

SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Mr. Speaker, Sir. the hon. Minister has not replied to the MR. SPEAKER: He has not said that original question raised by the member thinking 'has been stopped. whether the present Government proposes to follow or not the policies of the previous ( Interruptions) Government in this regard. At the same time I would like to know from the hen. Minister [English] how many gas agencies and petrol pumps have been allotted in Delhi and elsewhere SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV: When since the Chandra Shekhar Government their Government was thinking, they w,ere assumed charge. I would also like to know also sinking. So, how could they do it? (/n'_ about the number of allottees begging to SC terruptions) and ST among them and the ratio adopted and whether in the process of allotment any [ Translation) favouritism was made in this regard?

SHRt KALKA OAS: Mr. Speaker, Sir. SHRt SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA: In through you, I would like to know whether reply to the second part of the question ( there is any reservation for the Scheduled would like to state that not a single allotment Caste youths, so far as the allotment of has been made since Shri Chandra Shekhar petrol pumps and gas agencies is concerned became Prime Minister. and if so, the details thereof? I would also like to know, the numberofpetrol pumps and gas AN HON. MEMBER: Allotments have agencies allotted in the last ten years and the been made. number of people belonging to the Scheduled Castes among them? SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MAL VIVA: No, Sir. In response to the announcement made [ Trans/ation] by the previous government regarding the allotment of petrol pumps to the talented . SHRI SA TV A PRAKASH MALVIYA: Mr. students and allotment of gas agencies to Speaker, Sir. in terms of the present scheme. the poor people. we are giving due consid- the people belonging to Scheduled Castes eration to this aspect. and Scheduled Tribes, who fall in the age group of 21 to 50 years, are entitled to get the SHRI SYEO MASUDAL HOSSAIN: The facility of twenty five per cent reservation. previous Government has made a provision of allo11ing petrol pumps and gas agencies to SHRI KALKA DAS: I had asked about the unemployed youths but these are being the total number of gas agencies and petrol distributed among the private parties. In pumps allotted during the last ten years and November 1987, a decision was taken by the percentage of Scheduled Caste and this Ministry to altot L. P. G. agencies to Scheduled Tribe allotees among them. wholesale consumers' cooperatives but as per my knowledge no allotment has been SHRt SATYA PRAKASH MAlVIYA: made so far. I would like to know from the Right at the moment these statistics are not han. Minister whether he has made any available. announcement to allot the dealership of gas agencies and petrol pumps to cooperatives SHRI KALKA DAS: Will these be placed or the decision has ber;n reversed. What are on the Table of the House? the reasons therefor? 21 Oral AnSW9fS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

SHRI SATVA PRAKASH MALVIVA: Mr. [ Translation] Speaker , Sir, there is an open category and the consumers' cooperatives which fall un- SHRI MITRA SEN YADAV: Mr. Speaker, der ths category, are given priority but at Sir, I would like to know from the hon. Minis- present there is no provision for the coop- ter whether the policy of the Government eratives in this regard. regarding allotment of petrol pumps, diesel pumps and gas agencies includes the dis- abled and others belonging to the category [English] of handicapped. Sir, Diesel pumps are in great demand in rural areas now' a days. As such, I would like to know from the hen. SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN: Minister whether any rule has been framed There are so many wholesale consumer or not with regard to allotment of diesel cooperatives which are waiting for distribu- pumps at Development Block level. torship. At least 12 of them are waiting but they are not going to be allotted the dis- SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MAL VIVA: Sir, tributorship. (Interruptions) 7.5% reservation is being provided for the physically handicapped persons and as far SHRI K. S. RAO: The policy of the as part (b) is concerned, this right rests with Government to allot its petrol pumps and gas the State Governments. agencies to unemployed youth is excellent. As matters stand today, the petrol pumps Delay In supply of LPG Refills and the gas agencies are at a distance of 20 to 40 kms. in some areas particularly in the + delta and coastal areas of Andhra Pradesh. ·166. SHRI R. N. RAKESH: The need forthesethings is too high because DR. CHINTA MOHAN: the farmers are using tractors in a good number and the people are using gas be- Will the Ministerof PETROLEUM AND cause no other form of fuel like wood is CHEMICALS be pleased to state: available. So it is both for serving the purpose of giving employment to more and more (a) whether attention of the Govern- youth as well as to help the consumers who ment has been drawn to a newsitem cap- are not able to carry the cylinders which tioned uEndless wait for LPG Refill", ap- causes danger to the life. It causes even pearing in the Tribune dated 29 November, danger to the life if they carry cylinders in 1990; cycles for long distances. Transport buses are nol permitting them to carry cylinders in (b) if so, whether the supply of LPG in buses. I wish to know from the hon. Minister the country falls far short of the demand; as to whether he would think in tf=!rms of bifurcating or trifurcating even the existing (c) if so, the position in regard to its agencies-which is necessary-and install demand and supply; more, in the semi .. urban and urban places in the villages which are developing into new (d) whether any time limit has been centres so that more youth can be elJlp10yed fixed by the Government for supplying LPG and it will also be within the rea~h of the refills to consumers; and farming community as well as the consumers. (e) if so. the details thereof and the arrangements made for initiating action SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALAVIYA: against distributors for not supplying refills Sir, I will get this proposal examined by my within the prescribed time limit and the Ministry. number of such distributors against whom 23 Oral Answ.rs JANUARY 8. 1991 Oral Answers 24 action has been taken so far during the last know from the han. Minister as to how much one year? time the Ministry would take to redress the grievances oftha consumers from all parts of THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM the country who are making complaints AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF regularly regarding refilling and supply of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SA TV A gas cylinders. PRAKASH MAlVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA: Mr. (b) and (c). The demand for LPG Speaker, Sir, all the complaints received in outstrips indigenous availability which is being this regard are looked into but if the hon. augmented through imports. Member has any specific complaint in this connection, he may scented the same to us. (d) and (e). The distributors are under It will be investigated and in the course of the instructions from the LPG marketing oil investigation if any distributor is found guilty. companies to supply refills promptly on de- stringent action witt be taken against him. mand on a first come first serve basis. Regu- lar and surprise inspections are carried out SHAI M. S. PAL: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the by the field staff of oil companies. All com- entire House is aware of the fact that the plaints received regarding delay in the de- whole of Northern India is in the grip of livery of refills are investigated and appro- severe cold and gas connections are not priate action taken against the erring dis- being sanctioned in this region for quite tributors in accordance with the Marketing some time and in addition to that the people Discipline Guidelines and distributorship are not getting electric supply as the supply agreement. and communication lines have been damaged due to snowfall keeping it in view is the The information regarding the number Government considering to respect grant of of such distributors against whom action has new gas connections. been taken during the last one year for delay in supply of refills is being collected and will SHRI SATV A PRAKASH MAL VIYA: Mr. be laid on the Table of the House. Speaker, Sir, we are certainly maintaining the refilling facility to the existing consumers [ 'Translation] but the supply of new gas connections are banned for the time being. SHRI R. N. RAKESH (Chail): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has stated SHRIMATI SUMITRA MAHAJAN: We that gas cylinders are being imported from are already in the midst of many difficulties abroad in order to meet the growing demand. and the Ministry of Petroleum too has added , would like to ask the hon. Minister as to how t6 our difficulties. The prices of food items in many cylinders are in short supply in the the markets are soaring sky high and there country which are being imported from are other commodities which are not avail- abroad. able in the market bu1 the non availability of cooking gas is making even the coking of the SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA: At available items more difficult. As the hon. this juncture, we are faCing shortage of gas Minister told right now that there was no itself and there is no shortage of cylinders. scarcity of gas cylinders but there was a crisis to cooking gas. I want to highlight the SHRI R. N. RAKESH: It does figure in situation in my region, where the people who part four of the question. registered their names in 1982, have not been provided gas connections. Owing to MR. SPEAKER: You may ask. this the markets are full of duplicate cylinders and numerous accident cases are reponed SHRI R. N. RAKESH: I would like to frequently and we have to face the conse- 25 Oral Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26

quances of these mishaps. Is the Govern- were blown off, fifteen people were killed" ment aware of these duplicate cylinders that 250 cattle died and seventy people, who are in circulation in the markets? Hyes, what received more than fifty percent burns, are are the concrete steps that have been take still battling for their lives in Rajendra Hospital or proposed to be taken by the Government located in Patiala. I want to ask the hon. in this regard. Mi nistsr through you as to what steps do you propose to take to check the pitferage of gas SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MAL VIYA: Mr. which causes heavy of loss to the people Speaker, sir, as far as the question of du- and the action taken in respect of Ghanari plicate cylinder is concerned, we will certainly Kalan accident. investigate the matter and take appropriate action jf in case any complaint is received SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIVA: Mr. either from any hon. Member or from the Speaker, Sir, the question put by the hon. public, but our efforts are to make sure that Member is not linked with the main question. the duplicate cylinders are not supplied to I need a separate notice for ;to anyone. S. ATINDER PAL SINGH: Mr. Speaker, ...... (Interruptions} ...... Sir, if the hon. Minister is not in a position to reply to my question right now, he may be [English] directed to lay it on the Table of the House later. Fifteen lives have been lost in this SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: The incident. Hon, Minister has said that there is a shortage of gas. But in certain parts of the country, MR. SPEAKER: All right, the hon. Min- for example, in Tripura and Assam, the gas ister will lay the reply to your question on the is being wasted. The Governments there are Table of the House. Please take your seat. requesting the Central Government to give them a reasonable rate so that the gas can [English] be utilised best for household as well as for commercial purposes. What is the stand of SHRI ANIL BASU: Mr. Speaker, the the Government of India on this? What de- cOuntry is passing through a domestic fuel cision are they going to take to ease the gas crisis. The traditional fuel, i.e., cutting the situation in the country? tress and utilising them for the purpose of domestic fuel, is not available in the country SHRISATYAPRAKASHMAlVIYA:We side now as deforestation had taken place have received proposals from the concerned on a mass scale. And the LPG gas is also not State Governments. We are examining them available. So, in view of the non-availability and we will take a decision soon. of domestic fuel and LPG gas, will the Min- istry of Petroleum, in consultation with the [ Trans/ation] Ministry of Energy, evolve a National Do- mestic Fuel Policy so that the whole country SHRI ATINDER PAL SINGH: Mr. can know the policy of the Government re- Speaker, Sir, in Rajpura division of Patia'a garding domestic fuel? district atankerof Hindustan Petroleum while going from Gujarat to Jalandhar, met with an SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALAVIYA: accident near Ghanori Kalan due to leakage Sir, I have taken note to his suggestion. of gas fro,m it. The cause of the mishap was that it was carrying gas in duplicate cylinders. SHRISRIKANTAJENA:Sir,thaMinister When there was a leakage, fire broke out. has said that there is non-availability of gas The driver of the said tanker abandoned the in the country and as Mr. Sontosh Mohan tanker and fled. As a result of this accident Dev has said, there is wastage of gas in sixty houses were totally gutted, their roof Assam and Bombay High. What exarrtly are 27 Oral Answers JANUARY 8.1991 Oral Answers 28 the steps which the Government is going to PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: Mr. take to get the gas which is going waste and Speaker, Sir, The hon. Minister saij a distribute it? What are the steps to be taken shortwhile ago that there was shortage of by the Government in this respect in the LPG. In this connection, I would like to know following Eighth Five Year Plan? from him whether there is any fixed period say 15 or 20 days, within which the refill SHRI SA TV A PRAKASH MALVIYA: Sir. cylinder is supplied, because in my constitu- this is a new question. ency. refill is not supplied even offor 20-30 days? [ Translation] SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA: Sir. SHRI GANGA CHARAN LODHI: Mr. a period of 21 days has been fixed for thiS Speaker, Sir, so far, the facility of L.P.G. purpose. Refill of LPG is supplied 21 days connection is available in cities only on the after the supply of first cyhnder. basis of ration card, but this facility has not been extended to 70 lakh villages of the PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: Refill is country where crores of people live. There- not supplied for as long as 20 days. My fore, I would like to know from the hon. question IS as to how long does it take to Minister whether there is any proposal to supply the refill? extend L.P.G. connection facilitytothe people living in villages too? SHRf SATYA PRAKASH MALVJYA: Refill will be supplied after 21 days. SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA: Mr. Speaker, Sir. as per the existing provisions, [English) L.P.G. is supplied tothe areas having population of 20.000 or more. So far as the SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: In the light question of villages is concerned. there are of fuel prices in OUI country, particularly in the a number of difficulties involved in it. The eastern part - West Bengal. Orissa and Bihar, agents intown areas face a variety of difficul- I would like to know whether there is any ties in supplying L.P.G. to villages. However. p'roposal for the expansion of the capacity of I shall cOI"Isider the suggestion given by the the LPG bottling plant in Haldia refinery of hon. Member. the IOC?

SHRI JAG PAL SINGH: Mr. Speaker, [ Translation] Sir, the hon. Minister has just now said that L.P.G. is supplied tothe areas having popu- SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MAL VIYA: The lation of 20,000 or more. All hon. Members hon. Member's question is different from know it pretty well that the people from rural what has been asked in the main question areas have to transport L.P.G. from town However. I shall look into it if he gives it In areas, where gas agencies are located. to writing. the villages through buses Dnd other modes of transport. With a viewtochecking accidents [English] which take place during the course of transportation of L.P.G. from town areas to SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKATA: In the villages, I would like to know from the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. the wai1in~) han. Minister whether there is any proposal time for getting a refill is more than a month to open LPG agencies at the block level This is because all the refills are transport(::,1 through·out the country in order to extend by ship and the ship does not run every d:1)' the facility of LPG supply to the villag~s? I would, therefore, like to know from 1h.-, Minister whether Government would ccn- SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIY A: Sir, sider to stock sufficiont number of refills In I had said in the beginning Itself that LPG the Andaman and Nicobar Islands which WI!! agencies are opened in the c:\reas where help to ease the situation. population is 20 thousand or more. So far as the question of opening aaenCI9S at the SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALAVIYA: block lovol is concerned, there is no such We will take steps to adequately improve 1hr. proposal for the present. situation in Andaman and Nicobar Islanei::;. 29 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 30

WRIITEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS conversion of metregauge railway lines of Jabalpur, Gondia and Chandrapur into Demand of Employees of National broadgauge; and Airport Authority (b) if so, the details thereof? ·167. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) The Railway has been (a) whether the officers and employees advised in August' 90 to extend the scope of of the National Airports Authority are on the survey conducted for conversion of agitation for settling of their demands; Jabalpur-Gondia Narrow Gauge line to Board Gauge upto Chandrapur so that establish- (b) if so, the details of demands made by ment of a meaningful alternative North-South them; and route can be considered.

(c) the action taken so far to setlle the Stepping Up On-Shore Oil Exploration same? [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI *169. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) and (b). MURTHY: Prompted by financial reliefs given by Videsh SHRI BANWARI LAL Sanchar Nigam Limited to their employees, PUROHIT: six Unions/Associations of the employees! officers of the National Airports Authority Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND have submitted a joint memorandum de- CHEMICALS be pleased to state: manding identical relief which includes one advance increment from the date of their (a) whether there is a tremendous po- absorption in the National Airports Authority tential of on-shore oil in the country whose and one time financial relief varying between exploration is less expensive that that of off- Rs. 1 OOO/-to Rs. 2000/- to all the employees. shore oil; They have proposed to go on 8gitRtion if the issue is not settled. (b) whether the Government have worked out any strategy to step up on-shore (c) The issue is under discussion with oil exploration to sustain economic growth Associations/Unions. and to improve balance of payments position;

[ Translation] (c) if so, the details thereof including the foreign aid, if any; Conversion of Jabalpur-Gondia- Chandra pur Railway Line (d) whether the Government have received any request from the Associated *168. SHRI KANKAR MUNJARE: Will Chambers of Commerce and Ind~stry in this the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to regard; and state: (e) if so, the details thereof and the (a) the progress made in regurd to action t~ken thereon? 31 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 32

THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND SHRt SHANKERSINH CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- VAGHELA: MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) There is a good Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND potential for finding oil and gas in the onland CHEMICALS be pleased to state: sedimentary basins. Offshore basins of In- dia are also considered to be very prospec- (a) Whether the Standing Committee tive. The strategy for exploitation ·and ex- ~nstituted to look into the representations ploitation has to have a judicious mix of fields against Kelkar Committee Report relating to from both onshore and offshore. exclusion/inclusion of certain drugs from the Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1987 has since (b) Governments strategy jstomaintain completed its work; , if not increase the tempo of exploration in both the onshore as well as offshore basins (b) if so, the details thereof; and of India. (c) if not, the progress made so far in (c) As a part of long term strategy both this regard? intensive and extensive exploratory efforts are planned which would enable both im- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND mediate gains in terms of crude oil produc- CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- tion, as also establishing adequate reserves MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA and future exploration leads. Intensive ex- PRAKASH MAL VIVA): (a) to (c). The ploration in category I basins have resulted Standing CommiHee constituted by the De- in identification and delineatton of nearly all partment of Chemicals and Petro-chemicals the obvious and simple type of hydrocarbon is a permanent Coml'!1ittee, to consider traps. More advanced survey techniques will representations received by the Government be used to identify subtle and geological from time to time on the issues concerning more complex kind of combination traps. To the Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1987 in- supplement the efforts of the national oil cluding the inclusion/exclusion of bulk drugs companies, international companies have under price control and to make its recom- been invited in three previous rounds of mendations on the subject to the Govern· bidding to explore blocks offered in the ment. In its first report. the Standing Com country. In the Fourth Round of bidding, mittee has made recommendations with re- which is imminent, it is expected that a gard to major/minor ingredients, number of onland blocks would also be of- categorisation of combination formulations fered. etc. which have been accepted and implemented by the Government. The other issues (d) Government have not received any are before the Standing Committee and such request from Associated Chambers of further details would be furnished after a final Commerce and Industry in this regard. deCision is taken by the Government.

(e) Does not arise. Utilisation of Natura' Gas

·171. SHRI B. N. REDDY: Will the Standing Committee on Exclusion! Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS Inclusion of Drugs be pleased to state:

170. DR. A. K. PATEL: (a) whether the Government propose to 33 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 34 draw up a time bound action plan for the use (b) whether the Government propaseto of natural gas in various sectors to avoid oil operate Bombay-Surat -Udaipur and Delhi- imports; and Jaipur-Udaipur Vayudoot service in the near future on all the seven days instead of three (b) if so. the details thereof? days a week and if so, when; and

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND (c) the steps taken to provide Vayudoot CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- service to Kota, Bundi and Jhalawar? MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). Govern· THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ment have already allocated natural gas MINISTRY OF CIVil AVIATION (SHRt likely to be available for use to various con- HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) and (b). Indian sumers in the power. fertilizer, sponge iron Airlines has introduced a second daily ser- and other sectors. Such allocatIons currently vice to Udaipur with effect from 16th De- total approximately 82 million cubic n tetres cember. 1990. Vayudoot has no plans to of gas per day. make its services to Udaipur daily.

This is approximately equivalent to 30 (c) Vayudoot has no plans to airlink MT of oil. However. the full offtake and use of Bundi and Jhalawar. There are no Immedi- the allocated gas is dependent on upstream ate plans to restore operations to Kota which Investment in facilities to process, compress were suspended due to inadequate load and transport the gas and downstream in- factor. vestment in the setting up of user industries. [English] As and when new gas discovertes are made, and the gas becomes available for use, it is allocated to cor.sumers. Pipeline from Bombay High to Mangalor. [English]

*173. SHRI C. P. MUDALAGIRIYAPPA: Additional Air Services to Udaipur and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Other Cities CHEMICALS be pleased to state:

(a) whether there is a proposal to lay a *172. SHRI GULAS CHAND gas pipeline from 80mbay High to Mangalore; KATARIA: and SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA RAJE: (b) if SQ. thedetaiJs thereof and the time by whioh a final decision is likely to be takan Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be in this regard? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether additional air service is CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- proposed to be provided to Udaipur in order MENTARY AFFAIRS ~SH~I SATYA to boost tourjsm and earn more foreion ex- PRAKASH MALVIVA)= (a)~. Sir. No S\Jch change; project propoaal. pendingQJtJQnt'Y. 35 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 36

(b) Does not arise. (Surguja district), Rajnagar and Bijuri (Sahdola district) under South Eastern Release of DBC Coatfields Limited;

*174. DR. C. SILVERA: (b) whether these labourers are paid SHRI GOVINDA CHANDRA one fourth oronethird of the minimum wages MUNDA: fixed by law by the contractors;

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (c) if so, whether the Government pro- CHEMICALS be pleased to state: pose to declare all these labourers as regular workers of the Coal India Lim ited; (a) whether there is a ban on issue of double barrel connections in the country. (d) whether the case of contractors especially in Delhi; versus labourers of Gabra Project is pending with the Chief Labour Commissioner, Delhi (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and for the last four years; and

(c) the steps taken to lift the ban? (e) if so, the reasons for the delay, and if not. the decision taken in the matter? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHAI MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA KALYAN SINGH KALVI): (a) The contrac- PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (c). A second tors engaged by SECL for coal transporta- cylinder is released to LPG consumers in a tion and loading in Gevra, Bhatgaon. Katkona, planned manner subject to product availability Rajnagar and Bijuri execute the jobs; by and backlogs in LPG supplies. In the context mechanical means and not by manual. of the recent Gulf crisis, restricted availability of the product and backlogs, release of a (b) SECL has reported that transport second cylinder has been withheld all over contractors pay to their workers wages the country till the situation improves. Actions varying between As. 1500 to Rs. 2000 per are being taken to augment availability of the month depending on their designation. product, its speedy movement. enhanced Mainly, drivers, khalasis, mechanics, help- bottling and 10 steps up delivery of refills so ers are employed by contractors for driving as to reduce the backlogs. and maintenance of tippers. While the minimum wages fixed by the M.P. Govern- [T rans/alion) ment under the Minimum Wages Act is reported to be Rs. 21/- per day of Rs. 546/- for Condition of Labourers In South 26 working days of a month, no worker of the Eastern Coalfields Limited contractor is reported to be paid le~s than Rs. 750/- per month. ·175. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be (c) Contractors' workers are not em- pleased to state: ployees of the SECL and the question of employing them as regular workers of the (a) whether labourers are ongo.ged by coal company does not arise. contractors for carrying coal from mines. to load and unload coal in trucks in Gabra (d) and (e). A complaint demanding (Bilaspur district) Mehgaon and Katkona payment for contract workers at par with 37 Written AnswelS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answ8fS 38

principal employer workers on account of trees and band has were also same or similar nature of job being performed decided to be paid based on by them in Gevra Project was received by C.C.L. schedule. CLC(c) in December 1987. this matter is under arbitration in accordance with the (iii) Employment to the land oustees mutual agreement arrived at by the p'i:lrties in should be given as per norms, May 1989. The arbitration is in progress. A suitability and need of the project. meeting is fixed for the 3rd week of January 1991. (iv) All such persons whose houses have been acquired should be [English] provided 60 ft. x 40 ft. plot for their rehabilitation within 1-2 Kms. Rehabilitation of N.C.L. Oustaes of project area. Apart from this, CCL (now NCL) WOUld, as far as *176. SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Will the possible, provide assistance to Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: U.P. Government for providing drinking water, electricity and (a) whether in 1982 the Northern educational facilities. Coalfields Limited agreed with representatives of the land oustees to rehabilitate them; The rehabilitation sites in U.P. are very near to the projects in case of Kakri and Bina (b) if so, the detatls of the agreement projects. In case of Khadia project, because arrived at; of non-availability of suitable land in the project area and nearby, rehabilitation site (c) the extent of its implementation has been developed at a distance of about 8 especially in respect of out stees belonging Kms. from the Project site, in consultation to Kharia, Bina and Khakri projects: with the Rehabilitation Cell under the Chairmanship of District Magistrate consti- (d) the reasons for not implementing tuted by U. P. Government, keeping in view the agreement in full; and its proximity to maIO road and transport system. The families who are moved are (e) the time by which it will be imple- paid an among of Rs. 10001- for shifting of mented? their belongings.

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Street Lights in Delhi KAL YAN SINGH KALVI): (a) to (e). In a meeting held on 25.7.82 with the represen- *177. SHRI NANDLAL MEENA: tatives of villagers, Shri R. P. Panika, the SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: then Member of Parliament and the representatives of CCL (now NCL), the following Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased docisions were taken with regard to reha- to state: hilltation of displaced persons: (a) whether street lights have not been ( i) Compensation for the tenancy provided so far in R. K. Puram and o1her land at the rote of As. 77001- was areas of Delhi, after their widening of roads: fixed.

(ii) Compensa1icn for !·~ouses, wells, (b) if so, the reasons for delay; and 39 Written AnswelS JANUARY 8,1991 Written AnsW&15 40

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE- KALYAN SINGH KALVI): (a) to (c). Accord- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA ing to the Delhi Electric Supply Undertaking, CHARAN DAS): (a) to (d). No such memo- it takes six to eight months to execute a randum as referred to appears to have been scheme for shifting/removal of electricity received during March, 1989. However a poles during the road widening process after letter dated 23.3.1988 signed by Shri the requisite estimated charges are depos- Somjibhai Damor and several other MPs ited by the concerned road maintaining was received. agency, i. 9., the Municipal Corporation of Delhi, Public Works Department. Central Each individual case referred to was Public Works Department and Delhi Devel- personalty examined by General Manager, opment Authority, etc. In the R. K. Puram Northern Railway. The report by General area, DESU has already completed the work ManagerlNorthern Railway was also exam- of shifting of poles, etc., on the Vivekanand ined in Railway Board and no case of any Marg and Sangam Marg. The work in respect injustice or harassment of SC/ST officers of Venkateshwar Marg and Kama Kuni Marg was established. are likely to be completed by June. 1991. Shifting of electricity Poles on the other roads Since the various allogations of ha- in the R. K. Puram area can be undertaken rassment or discrimination etc. were not by DESU only after receipt of the requisite found correct, the question of taking any payments from the Municipal Corporation of action against any offcer did not arise. Delhi. At present about 110 cases pertaining to street lighting deposit works in other parts Operation of Air BU8 A·320 of Delhi are at various stages of execution by DESU. ·179. SHAI J. CHOKKA RAO: SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Alleged Injustice Against SC/ST Officials Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state:

·178. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to (a) whether all the A-320 Airbus which state: were grounded after the Bangalora accident have been put back into service: (a) whether some Members of Parlia- ment had sent a memorandum during March, (b) the number of such aircraft with the 1989 enlisting numerous cases of injustice Indian Airlines and how many were grounded meted out to the SC and ST officials; and for how long:

(b) if so, whether any enquiry was (c) when the report of the Committee conducted; appointed to go into the air worthiness of these aircraft was made available to the (c) the details thereof; and Government and the action taken thereon;

(d) the action taken on the enquiry (d) whether Airbus A-320 aircraft are 41 Written Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 being used by other countries if so, the for 657 ofthe A320 aircraft. The aircraftfitted details thereof; with CFM or V2500 engine is presently being flown by a number of airlines of the world (e) whether any other country ha:J also such as Air France, Air Inter, British Airways, grounded such aircraft for identical technical lufthansa, Air Canada, Ansert Airlines, North reasons; if so, the names of such countries; British Orient, Adria, Cyprus Airways and and Royal Jordanian Airlines.

(f) the number of such aircraft proposed (e) No, Sir, to be purchased in the near future? (f) Twelve. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI Electrification of J. J. Colonies In Deihl HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) and (b). Four- teen Airbus A-320 aircraft have remained on ·180. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: ground from 19.2.1990 onwards. four Airbus Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to A320 aircraft, which were received during state: October. 1990 had remained so from the date of their arrival. Between 7th September (a) whether the Delhi Administration and 10th October, some of the A320 aircraft h~s decided to electrify all dwelling units in were used for evacuation of our nationals J.J. Colonies in Delhi; from the Gulf region. From 28th October, 1990, Airbus A320 aircraft have been (b) if so, the number of such colonies reinducted in the external sector of the and the number of dwelling units to be Indian Airlines network and from 3rd De- electrified this year; and cember, 1990, they have been reinducted in the domestic sector as well. The reinduction (c) the estimated cost thereof? in proceeding in a phased manner. Seven such aircraft are now in operation. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlYAN SINGH KAlVI): (a) No decision Cc) Government did not appoint any has been taken to provide electric connec- Committee to go into the question of air- tions to each dwelling unit in J.J. coJonies in worthiness of the Airbus A320 aircraft. Delhi. However, the Ramdas Committee had been appointed to evaluate the state of pre- (b) and (c). Do not arise. paredness of Indian Arrlines for the safe operation of the Airbus A320 aircraft. The [ Trans~ation] Committee submitted its interim report in March, 1990 and final report in June, 1990. Shortage of LPG In Bihar Copies of the report have been placed in the library of the Parliament (Index No. 621.13252 *181. SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHARY: R). Indian Airlines has taken adequate steps Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND to implement the recommendations of the CHEMICALS be pleased to state: Ramdas Committee.

(d). According to the bulletin of Airbus (a) whether consumers in Bihar are Industry dated 9th November, 1990, 35 facing difficulties because of shortage of customers of the world had placed firm orders LPG and resultant malpractices; and 43 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 44

(b) the steps proposed to be taken by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Government to restore normal supply of MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI cooking gas and to eradicate blackmarketing HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) No, Sir. and other malpractices? (b) and (d). As a short term measure, THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND the existing terminal building is being ex- CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- tended and modified to cope with the pa~ MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA senger traffic. For the long term, the State PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). A tem- Government has been requested to acquire porary shortage in the supply of LPG refills additional land on' the northern side of the was reported in certain locations of Bihar on airfield for construction of new terminal account of constraints in the availability of complex. bulk LPG, transportation problery1s, and sporadic low and order problems. Actions Absorption of Vigilance Officers by Air are being taken to augment availability of India and Indian Airlines LPG. transportation problems, and sporadic low and order problems. Actions are being 1862. SHAI SHANTARAM taken to augment availability of LPG. increase POTDUKHE: W.II the Minister of CIVIL bottling, expedite movement and step up AVIATION be pleased to state: delivery of refills so as to restore normalcy. In orderto prevent malpractices, including black (a) whether any guidelines have been marketing. regular and surprise inspections laid down or any norms followed in the matter are carried out by the field staff of Oil com- of vigilance officers first posted to the Air- panies. All complaints received against the India and Indian Airlines on deputation and LPG distributors are investigated and ap- then their absorption in these organisations; propriate action taken in accordance with the Marketing Discipline Guidelines, and (b) whether such officers are entitled to dealership agreement. all facilities and perks and concessions like free travel, transport. accommodation etc. [English] during their deputation period:

Shifting of Administrative Building of (c) what is the tenure of the present Jalpur Airport Director of vigilance in the Air-India and whether allowances, perks and facilities 1861. SHRI GIADHARI LAL enjoyed by his counterparts in the Indian BHARGAVA: Will the Minister of CIVIL Airlines are also being given to him; AVIATION be pleased to state: (d) whether Government have permit- (a) whether the administrative building ted his permanent absorption in the Air- of the Jaipur Airport is situated at a wrong India; and location without proper approach road; (e) if so, the reasons therefor? (b) if so, whether Government have any plan to construct a better building on the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE main road: and MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHAI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Chief Vigilance (c) the time by which the work on this Officers are appointed by the Governmen1 plan is likely to commence? on deputation from the panel received from 45 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 46 the Department of Personnel in consultation been awarded with effect from 11.12.1990. with the Chief Vigilance Commission. Ab- sorption of such officers in Indian Airlinesl (c) No, Sir. Air-India is not envisaged generally. (b) Does not arise. (b) Yes, Sir. (e) The contract for catering service in (c) The tenure of the present Director of New Oelhi-Chandigarh-Kalka Express has Vigilance is upto 31.5.92. He is being given been awarded to the most suitable candidate allowances, perks and facilities as per the on merits. terms and conditions of deputation which are comparable to those of his counterpart in [English] Indian Airlines. Alternative to Petrol (d) No. Sir. 1864. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO (e) Does not arise. BRAHMABHATT: SHAI NARSINGRAO [Translation] SURYAWANSHI: SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA: Allotment of Dining/Pantry Car Con- SHRI P. C. THOMAS: tracts on Northern Railway Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 1863. SHRI RAM LAL RAHI: Will the CHEMICALS be pleased to state: Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government are aware (a) whether Government have allotted of the fact that a liquid formation of achemical contracts for dining/pantry cars on Northern compound available in abundance in the Railway during the current year; count ry and also 'tapioca' material can be used as fuel in motor vehicles saving the (b) if so, the details thereof alorgwith consumption of petrol; total number of such contracts; (b) ffso, thestepstakentocommercialise (c) whether unemployed graduates its technology; youth and persons belongin~ to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes have also (c) whether SHELL International also been allotted such contracts; possesses the technology to convert gas into diesel and kerosene and is willing to sell (d) if so, the number of those unem- it; ployed youth and SC/ST persons separately; and (d) if so, whether Government propose to go in for these technologies; and (e) if not, the reasons therefor? (e) if so, when and if not, the reasons THE MINSTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI therefor? JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) and (b). A contract for catering service in New uelhi- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Chandigarh-Kalka Shatabdi Express has CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLlA- 47 Written Answers JANUARY 8. 1991 Written AnswsfS 48

MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA cOntrol of Depart ment of Coal including the PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). All car- Eastern CoaHields Limited (Eel) have been bohydrates including tapioca, when fer- advised to follow the Government directives mented. give alcohol which can be used in to help in the development of small scale and partial ortotal substitution of petrol. However, ancillary industries. No specific case of non- the use of alcohol in admixture with petrol as compliance of these directives by Eel have automotive fuel is not made or encouraged been brought to the notice. as surplus alcohol is not available on sus- tained basis. Further, alcohol can be better Price Reduction Benefit to Consumers used for producing value-added chemicals. 1866. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Will (c) to (e). SHELL has a technology for the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- this conversion and a pilot plant in their CALS be pleased to state: laboratory in Holland. No commercIal unit, bases on thiS technology, is reported to have (a) whether an Indian scientist has been set up. succeeded in lowering prices of several drugs; A process for conversion of natural gas into middle distillates has arso been devel- (b) if so, the details of the drugs involved oped by the National Chemicals Laboratory, Indicating the benefits passed on to the Pune. A pilot plant based on this process is consumers; being set up in Bharat Petroleum Corporation's Refinery at Bombayfortesting (c) whether there are any proposals to the process and developing data for design encourage such entrepreneurs; and purposes. This process could be used when it becomes economIcal and necessary to (d) if so, the details thereof? convert natural gas into diesel and kerosene. THEMINISTEROFPETROLEUMAND Role of Eel In Industrial Development CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PAR- liAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA 1865. SHRI HARADHAN ROY: Will the PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) The Department Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: of Chemicals and Petro-chemicals has no such information available with it. (a) "yhether ECl does not adhere to the Government directive to help in the devel- (b) Does not arise. opment of small scale and ancilliary industries of AsansoVDurgapur region of West (c) and (d). Since it is the endeavour of Bengal; the Government to ensure availability of medicines to the consumers in abunda:1t (b) whether due to the growth of small quantity at cheaper and reasonable prices, scale in the region has been deferred; and Government will welcome any such proposal.

(c) if so, the measures taken or proposed [ Translation] to be taken by Governm ent to see that these directives are adhered to? fire Caused by Rail Tankers Fitted with Cru:.e Naptha THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI 1867. SHRI SATYNARAYAN JATIYA: KAL VAN SINGH KALVI): (a) to (c). AU public Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to sector undertakings underthe administrative state: 49 Written AnswelS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

(a) whether there was heavy loss of life Expansion and Development of Udaipur and property in the devastating fire caused and Hamirgarh Airports by the rail tankers filled with crude Naptha in 1990 near Negda station of Western Railway; 1869. SHRt MAHENDRA SINGH and MEWAR: Will the Ministerof CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state the details of expansion (b) if so, the details thereof and the and other facilities proposed to be provided details of enquiry conducted in the matter at Udaipur and Hamirgarh airports between and action taken thereon? Bhilwara and Chittorgarh?

THE MINSTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) and (b). There MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI was no loss of life in the incident. The cost of HARMOHAN DHAWAN): Subject to avail- damage to railway property is estimated to ability of funds the terminal complex at be Rs. 2.42 crores approximately. The en- Udaipur airport is proposed to be upgraded quiry conducted by the department in the by the National Airports Authority. Hamirgarh matter has not held any railway employees Airports belongs to Government of Rajast~an r£lsponsible for the fire. According to Enquiry and the National Airports Author;ty has no Committee the cause of the fire was forma- plans of providing facilities there. tion of vapour clouds due to inadequate vapour space in the tank wagons and also Electrification of Railway Lines due to overflow of the contents. 1870. PROF MADHU DANDAVATE: The findings of the Enquiry Committee Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to have been forwarded to Ministry of Petroleum state: and Chemicals who are required to take the follow up action. (a) whether a comparative study of electric/diesel/steam traction has been un- [English1 dertaken by the railways;

Chair Cars In Express Trains (b) if so, wether electric traction is found to be the cheapest in addition to being non- 1868. SHRIGOPINATHGAJAPATHI: pollutant; Willtha Ministerof RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (c) if so, whether steps are being taken to undertake eledrification projects in an (a) whether Government have a pro- efforts to increase the electric traction and posal to provide chair cars in some Express reduce consumption of diesel; and Trains; and . (d) if so. the details thereof? (b) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINSTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) and (b). Pro- (b) Yes, Sir, in some cases depending vision of Chair cars in trains is a continuous upon traffic density of the route. costs of process depending upon traffic requirements electrical energy, diesel oil etc. and opera- and availability of coaches. tional advantages. 51 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 52

(c) and (d). Yes, Sir, Electrification is (a) whether Government are aware that being done in a planned manner, During the cut in diesel supplies has resulted in reduc- 7th Plan 2612 route Kms were electrified. ing the movement of rail transport leading to Work is currently in progress in about 2600 rise in prices of essential commodities; and Kms which are programmed to be completed , during the VIII Plan. (b) if so, the action Government propose to take for the free movement of rail transport? Multi Disciplinary Integrated Approach byONGC THE MINSTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRt JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) Movement of 1871. SHRI B. DEVARAJAN: Will the freight by rail per se has not suffered for no Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS cut has been enforced in the supplies of be pleased to state: diesel oil to Indian Railways.

(a) whether a multi-disciplinary inte- (b) Does not arise. grated approach by the Oil and Natural Gas Commission has been adopted in the new Supply of Food by Private Contractors organisational set up in order to achieve to IA and AI close coordination and working among the various groups associated with the imple- 1873. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: mentation of the project during the Eighth Will the Minister of CIVil AVIATION be Five Year Plan period; and pleased to state:

(b) if so, the details thereof? (a) the estimated yearly expenditure which the Air India incurs in India and abroad THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND on its catering in flight and on ground; CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA (b) the manner in which such catering PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. contracts are entered into both in India and abroad and how these were concluded during (b) In order to strengthen the project the current year-the names of the firms given management system in ONGC the project t~e contracts; management groups concerned with for- mulation and implementation of the projects (c) the reasons why the Air India and the have been made multi disciplinary bydrawing Indian Airlines do not get their food-stuffs in personnel from different disciplines in the the domestic flights and those taking off from Commission. This is expected to achieve India from the Hotel Corporation of India's better coordination among the different Hotels in Bombay and New Delhi Instead ot groups in the Commission and outside from the contractors; and agencies connected with the projects. A three level monitoring system has also been (d) what are the difficulties which lie In ,ntroduced for effective monitoring of the the way of the Hotel Corporation of India's projects. Hotels in improving their stuff and bring it at par with the private contractors etc.? Movement of Rail Traffic Due to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Shortage of Petroleum MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHAr 1872. SHRIJANARDHANAPOOJARY: HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Air India's PX VVillthe Ministerof RAILWAYS be pleased to penditure on catering, for the year 1989-90 state: was as under'- 53 Written AnsWBIS PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 54

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(b) In most Gulf stations, the local India Airlines flight catering requirements Government rules do not permit any compe- are uplifted from Chefair. To have an alter- tition. In such places, contract is awarded nate source of supply in case of problems without calling for tenders. In other places, arising with Chefair and to provide compe~ tender procedure is followed and contracts tition. catering contracts have been entered are entered into for 2·3 years, for safeguard- into with private parties. Ing against escalation in cost. List of catering contracts concluded during 1990 is given below. (d) Hotel Corporation of India is facing heavy interest/depreciation burden which (c) Sixty Five percent of Air India's makes its produd comparatively costly. There catering requirements and 25 percent of is also soope for improvement in effiCiency. 55 Writt9n AnswelS JANUARY 8. 1991 Written AnsW9ts 56

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1874. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA THE MINSTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI NARASIMHA RAJA WADIYAR: Will the JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) and (b). Pantry Min ister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS Car service is provided only on certain se- be pleased to state: lected maiVexpress trains where adequate catering through static units enroute is not (a) whether a proposal to set up some feasible, subjed to the availability of pantry chemical and petro-chemical projects in cars as well as room on trains. Karnataka is pending before the Govemmant since long; (c) The number of pantry cars held by the Railways zone-wise is as under:- (b) if so, the names of those pending proJects: Railways No. of Pantry cars held (c) the steps taken to expedite the clearance of those projects: and Central 21

(d) how many of those projects are Eastern 28 expected to be set up during the Eighth Five Year Plan? Northern 22

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND North Eastern 16 CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATVA Northeast Frontier 17 PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (d). Applica- tions for Industrial licence for the manufac- Southern 51 ture of various chemicals and petro-chemicals including those of projects proposed to South Central 8 be located in Karnataka are received from time to time. These are examined and decided "~~outh Eastern 38 upon the techno-economic considera.ton in line with existing policies as a continuous Western 34 process. Total 235 Pantry Cars for Trains The 1990-91 Plan provides for the 1875. SHRI YASHWANTRAO PATIL: manufacture of 30 pantry cars. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: World Bank Assisted Power Projects

(a) whether pantry cars are being at- 1876. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: tached to all mail and express trains; Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and (a) the details of location, cost, gen- (c) the number of pdntry cars at present eration capacities of the power projects that 61 Wn1ten AIls_IS PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) 62 were taken for implementation under the the details thereof? World Bank MS6stad programme during the decade ending December. 1990; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MtNISTRVOFENERGY (SHRr BABANRAO (b) the present stage of these power DHAKANE):(a) and (b). Details are given in projects and the present rata of power gen- the statement beJow. eration of completed projects during that period; and (c) The procurement of equipment for power projects under the assistance from World Bank is done under International (c) whether most of the projects under Competitive Bidding procedures and there this scheme had the stipulations on purchase are no specific stipuiations in the loan and procurement of plants and equipments agreements that the procurement of equip- from the given names of the countries; if so, ment would be from a specific country. 63 Written An.twelS JANUARY 8, 1991 Written AnsW91S 64

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Appointment of IOPL Stockists/Deale,s of Parliament; In Orlasa (b) the position with regard to each 1sn. SHRI MANGARAJ MALlIK: Will recommendation; the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- CALS be pleased to state: (c) whether the facilities/amenities/ salary and allowances being drawn by M.Ps (a) whether the Government are aware are less then the legislators and if so, the that the IDPl drugs/medicines are more in steps being taken to remove this anomaly; demand and are in short supply in Orissa, resulting in over-charging by the chemists; (d) whether Government have decided and to give rai It ravel facilities to ex-MPs and their spouses; and (b) if so, the action taken to meet the demand fully and to appoint more stickiest! (e) if so, the time by which it is likely to distributors of the Indian Drugs and Phar- be given? maceuticals Ltd. in Orissa? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI SATYA CALS AND DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a), (b), (d) and (e). MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHAI The Joint Committee on Salaries and Al- JAI PRAKASH): (a) and (b). IOPl has re- lowances of Members of Parliament have ported that it is not aware of any shortage of made 14 recommendations as given in the its drugs/medicines or over-charging by ~tatement given below for providing certain chemists in Orissa nor has it received such facilities to Members and ex-Members of complaints from any source. The company is Parliament. These include reoommendation having 31 stockiest all over Orissa and the for giving rail travel facilities to Ex-Members needs of the retail chemists are adequately of Parliament. No recommendation has met by these stockists. however been made for providing rail travel facilities to spouses of ex-Members of Par- Facilities!Amenities to Members of liament. Parliament These recommendations are being 1878. SHAI BAlVANT MANVAR: processed in consultation with Ministries SHAI MANORANJAN concerned. BHAKATA: SHAI A. K. ROY: (c) The information asked for is available in the document published by the lok Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY Sabha Secretariat titled 'legislators in India- AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Salaries and other Facilities'. As regards removing of anomalies the matter is con- (a) the details of the recommendations sidered from time to time by the Joint Com- made by the Joint Committee on Salaries mittee on Salaries and Allowances of and Allowances of Members of Parliament Members of Parliament and the recommen- pending with Government increase in facili· dations made by them are processed by the ties/amenities to the sitting and ex-Members Government. 75 Written AnSW91S JANUARY 8,1991 Wrltt." AnsWSIS 76

STATEMENT and Rs. 1001- per month for each year of membership subsequent For Membsrs of Parliament: to 5 years, maximum ceiling- Rs. 50001-. 1. Increase in telephone calls from 30,000 to 60,000. 12. Grant of pension in addition to o1her pension upto a maximum 2. Unrestricted number of rail jour- ceiling of Rs. 50001- per month. neys for spouse of Member of Parlisment from usual placa of 13. Railway pass for ax-members of residence to Delhi and back. Parliament.

3. Unavailed air journeys available 14. MedICal facilities through CGHS to an MP to be utilised by Spouse for ax-UPs and their families and ofMP. in case of deceased ex-MP to the dependents for life. 4. Increase in Office Expense AI- Iowance. Re-employment in IRCON after Retire- 5. Increase in advance for purchase ment of conveyance from As 50.000/- to Rs. 1 lakh. 1879. SHRI MADAN tAL KHURANA: Will the Minister of RAil WAYS be pleased to 6. Increase of single air journeys state: from 16 to 24 in a year. (a) the number of persons employed in 7. Increasing of DA rate from As. lACON after their retirement; 150/- per day to Rs. 200/- per day. (b) whether there are standing instructions that re-employment after retirement is 8. Increase in the rate of road not to be given; mileage allowance from Rs. 3/- per km. to Rs. 5/- per km. (c) if so, the reasons for ignoring the Government instructions and steps proposed 9. That the unutilised telephone to be taken to remove aU re-employed per- calls in a year may be adjusted sonnel; and during the subsequent year. (d) the details of other persons given re- 10. To issue a steamer pass to each employment in his Ministry and offices/cor- MP to travel from an Island to porations falling under it with reasonsljusti- mainland and vice-versa. fication therefor office/corporation-wise?

For ex-Members of Parliament: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) 85. 11. Relaxation of minimum period of membership for pension and in- (b) No, Sir. crease in pension (As 300/- for one year of service upto 5 years (c) Does not arise. 77 Written Answers PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

(d) The number of persons, who have been eng8!Jed after retirement are: - (i) Ministry of Railways and Zonal Railways 81

(ii) Rail India Technical and Economic Services (RITES) 12

(iii) Indian Railway Finance Corporation (fRFC) 03

(iv) Konkan Railway Corporation (KRC) 28

(v) Centre for Railway Information Systems (CRIS) 22

The continued engagement of th~se (b) whether the ONGC has sought persons has been necessitated due to non- exemption of rules under the Merchant Ship- availability of suitable persons, requiring ping Act; special skills/experience and is in the public Interest. (c) whether Government have received representation against the move from Indian Foreign Vessels Engaged by ONGC National Sh~p Owner's Association; and

1880. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKARA (d) if so, the facts and details thereof? MURTHY: Will the Ministarof PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND (a) the details of foreign supply vessels CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- engaged by the Oil and Natural Gas Com- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA mission (ONGC) under chattering system PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) ONGC has en- both from domestic and foreign sources gaged following five foreign flag vessels during the last three years; from Indian companies during last 3 years:

Name of Co. vessel Name Year

Mis. Garware Shipping Corporation limited PACfRC DIRK 1988·89

Mis. Taj Trade Tpt. JENSEN TIDE 1989-91

RAMEY TIDE -do-

• MIRE TIDE -do-

MIs Seaspan ShiPt)ing & drg. STATE DEFENDER 1990-91

However, no foreign flag vessel has (b) These vessels were deployed after been hired from a foreign company by the obtaining the approval of the DG, Shipping ONGC in the fast three years. under the Merchant Shipping Act; 79 Written AnsW8tS JANUARY 8. 1991 Written AnswelS 80

(c) and (d). ONGC and OIL have been during 1989 together with percentage of permitted to procure their requirement of produdion? equipment and services under global ten· ders. Accordingly ONGC has been inviting THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND global tenders for charter hiring of offshore CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- supply vessels also. However Indian National MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Shipowners' Association has been repre· PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes. Sir. senting that over-riding preference should be given to Indian flag vessels. (b) and (c). Production of drugs in the Small Scale Sector is not monitored by this Power Breakdown In Yadav Nagar, Ministry. In the organised sector only MIs. Dalhl IOPl is producing Analgin. Its production during 1988·89 and 1989-90 was 271.80 1881. PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: and 235.2 MT respectively. Will the Minister of ENERGY be plea~ed to state: Surplus Stock of Penicillin

(a) whether Government propose to 1883. SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA: Will conduct any enquiry into frequent power the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- breakdown in Yadav Nagar. a residential CAlS be pleased to state: colony in North Delhi; and (a) the surplus stock of Penicillin tying (b) if so, when the enquiry is likely to be with the public sector units; and conducted? (b) the steps Government have takenl THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE propose to take to ban import of Penicillin- MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO G? DHAKANE): (a) and (b). According to DESU the power supply position in the said area is THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE by and large satisfactory. As such the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- question of conducting any enquiry in the CALS AND DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE matter does not arise. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI JAI PRAKASH): (a) As on 1.12.1990, Indian Production of Analgln Drugs and Pharmaceuticals limited (IDPL) had a stock of 9225 BUs of Pen.G 1st Crys- 1882. SHRI KHEMCHANDBHAI tals and Hindustan Antibiotics limited (HAL) SOMABHAI CHAVDA: Will the Minister of had' Nil' stock. PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) Indigenous production of Pen. Gist Crystals is not sufficient for the manufacture (a) whether manufacture of Analgin is of semi synthetic Penicillin and import of reserved for public sector units; Pen. G 1st Crystals is regulated to meet the shortage in this regard. (b) whether Analgin is also produced by several small scale industrial units; and Expansion of Cochln Refinery 1884. SHRI P. C. THOMAS: Will the (c) if so, the total production of Analgin Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS made by various corrlpanies, sector-wise be pleased to state: 81 Written AnswelS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsWBIS 82

(a) whether the Govemment propose to cial position of the Bharat Coking Coal lim- invest more funds for the expansion of Co.. ited for the last three year, year-wise break chin Refineries; and up for the underground and open cast mines, separately: (b) if SO, the details thereof and the steps taken in this regard? (b) the details of the miners in the underground mines and the capacity THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND utilisation of machine in open cast mines for CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- the last three years, year-wise; MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) the amount paid as full back wages and the amount lost for absenteeism of the (b) The proposal for the expansion of miners contributing to the loss; capacity of Cochin Refinery was given first stage clearance by the Government for (d) the categories of officers and the preparation of a Detailed Feasibility Report, time they are supposed to be in the under- in May. 1990. ground mines physically guiding the produdion; and A Detailed Feasibility Report has been receivedfrom MIs. Cochin Refineries limited (e) the oost of production of coal in the on December 31. 1990 for the expansion of percentage oontribution of different factors the refinery at a total estimated cost of Rs. in the cost and also making the loss peren- 363 crores. The project proposal will be nial and the steps taken to minimise the processed for Government approval. losses?

Performance of BCCL . THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI 1885. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the Minister KALY AN SINGH KALVI): (a) The production of ENERGY be pleased to state: and financial position of Bharat Coking Coal (ltd. (SCCl) for the last three years is as (a) the details of production and finan- follows:

Production: (Million Tonn9s)

1987-88 1988-89 1989-90

Under- Open- Under- Open- Under- Open- Ground cast ground cast ground cast

13.81 11.80 14.36 11.94 13.29 13.32

Financial Position (After adjustment under Coal Pric9 Regulation Account)

(Rs. crores)

1987-88 1988-89 1989-90

-112.01 -5.19 + 51.33 (+ Profit Loss) 83 Written AnSwelS JANUARY 8, 1991 Writt9n Answers 84

(b) to (8). The information is being col- Power Generation ID Country lected and to the extent available will be laid on the Tabte of the House. 1887. SHRIMANORANJANBHAKATA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Kelkar Committee on Natural Gas state:

1886. SHRt M. M. PATEL: (a) the details about the generation and SHAI PRAKASH KOKO shortfall of power, State/Union Territory-wise; BRAHMBHATT: and

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (b) the short-term and long-term mea- CHEMICALS be pleased to state: sures taken or proposed to be taken to meet the power requirement. state-wiselUnion (a) whether the Government have re- Territory-wise? ceivedthe Kelkar Committee report forfixing the Price of Natural Gas; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO (b) if so. the details of the recommen- DHAKANE): (a) The desired information IS dations thereof; and given in the Statement given below.

(b) The measures beir.g taken to im- (c) the action taken thereon and if not, prove the availability of Power include ex- the time by which it is likely to be taken? pediting commissioning of new generation capacity, Implementation of short gestation projects, improving the performance of ex- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND isting power stations, reducing transmiSSion CHEMICALS AND MfNrSTER OF PARLIA- and distribution losses, implementation of MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt SATYA demand management and energy conser- PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. vation measures and arranging transfer of energy from surplus to deficit areas. The long term measures for rationalising power (b) and (c). The recommendations of development include acceleration of hydro the Committee are under the consideration development, layer programme of trans- of the Government. A final decision is likefy mission and distribution, coal beneficiation, to be taken early. diversification of fuels and modes of transportation of coal, etc. 85 Written Answ9fS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKAl Written Answers 86

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THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): Management of HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Details of the international airports of the country vests in revenue of the International Airports Authority the International Airports Authority of India in of India, airport wise, for the last five years accordance with the law on the subject. are given in the Statement-I below. I.

Outlay and Receipts of International Airport Authority of India (b) Details of the outlays of the Interna- tional Airports Authority of India. airport- 1889. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will the wise, for the last five years are in the State- Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to ment-II below. 93 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 94

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011 Exploration In W•• t Bengal MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) According to DESU, its billing 1890. SHRIMATI GEETA system is not causing any harassment and MUKHERJEE: Will the Minister of PETRO- inconvenience to the consumers. LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) and (c). Under the new billing sys- (a) whether the Government have re- tem introduced by DESU from October, 1990, ceived any memorandum on oil exploration bills are sent every two months. A bill on in West Benga'; and actual meter reading basis is prepared every four months and a bill on provisional basis is (b) if so, the action taken thereon? sent in between for two months based on past consumption. The bill on actual reading THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND basis is prepared after giving credit for the CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- payment made against the provisional bill. MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA there is no change in the billing system for PRAKASH MALVIVA): (a) and (b). Govern- small industriaillarge industrial power oon- ment have received a memorandum from sumers. Prof. Pradeep Das Gupta. Head of the De- partment of Geology. Presidency College, (d) The new billing system has been Calcutta on exploration of oit by ONGC in adopted to avoid requirement of large number West Bengal. The memorandum has been of additional Meter Readers in DESU. examined in consultation with ONGC and it is proposed to hold further clarificatory dis- New Catering Policy cussions with Prof. Pradeep Das Gupta in the matter. 1892. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to DESU Electricity Bill state:

1891. SHRI GANGA CHARAN LOOHI: (a) whether the Government have in- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to troduced new catering policy in the Railways; state: (b) if so, whether the recommendations (a) whether the billing system by OESU of the Alagesan Committee (1955) and causes I'harassment and inconvenience to ParimaJ Ghosh committee (1967) have been the consumers; included in the new catering policy;

(b) whether the OESU has introduced a (c) if so, the' details thereof and it not, now procedure of billing cycle from October, the reasons therefor; 1990 period: (d) whether the Government have re- (c) if so, the details thereof; and ceived a memorandum dated 29, September. 1990 from Karnataka Passengers & Traffic (d) the difficulties faced by the OESU in Relief Association, Hubli regarding new ca- preparing bills bi-monthly on a regular basis tering policy; as perthe reading for the period under billing to avoid such confusion and adjustment later? . (e) if so, the reaction oftheGove.rnment THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE thereto; 103 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 104

(f) whether the Govemment propose to Production Target of Cll give preferantial treatment to SCIST. widows of Railway employees, freedom fighters, ex- 1893. SHRIK.S. RAO: Will the Minister servicemen etc. in the allotment of catering of ENERGY be pleased to state: contrads; and (a) whether the Coal India Umited had (g) if so. the details thereof and if not, appointed a task force to ensure the produc- the reasons therefor? tion target set for the Coal India limited and its subsidiaries; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHAt JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) A policy deci- (b) if so. the production targets of Coal sion has been taken that all cateringlvending India limited and its subsidiaries for 1989- licences, excepting at small and road-side 90 and 1990.. 91 ; stations, will be allott'ld by calling tenders. (c) whether these targets have been (b) and (c). These Committees did not achieved or expected to be achieved; make any reOJmmendation on the procedure for awarding the catering licences. (d) whether the task force will be monitoring the supply of spares and equipments of the coal producing companies; and (d) Yes, Sir. (e) if so, the steps taken by the task force in this regard? (e) . There is no proposat to change the policy decision taken. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRt KALYAN SINGH KALVI): (a) No Sir.

(f) and (g). The old policy regarding (b) to (e). Chairman-cum-Managing award of catering/vending licences will Diredors of the Coal Companies have been continueto be followed at a very large number assigned, among others, the responSibility of stations where the existing order of pref- for achieving the production targets. The erence for Scheduled Castes/Scheduled production targets and achievements for Tribes, Freedom Fighters, Ex-Serv'tcemenl 1989-90 and targets for 1990-91 are as War Widows will continue to apply. under:-

(in million tonnes)

Company Target Achievement Target 1989-90 1990-91

1 2 3 4

Eel 30.90 24,49 29.00

BCCL 27.50 26.61 28.60

CCL 28.00 28.61 289.17 105 Writtsn AnswelS PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 106

1 2 3 4

NCL 23.00 23.28 27.20

SECL 50.50 51.78 55.33

WCL 22.70 23.01 23.90

NEe 0.90 0.84 0.80

TOTALCll 183.50 178.62 194.00

Efforts are directed by way of constant (a) whether the Government have re- monitoring and coordination towards ceived requestslproposals to grant permis- achieving the targets set. sion for utilizing the airfield at Neemuch being used by the C.R.P.F. for operating [ Translation] Vayudoot service;

Conversion of Kashlpur-Ramnagar Line (b) whether such permission has been given for operating passenger planes at 1894. SHRI M. S. PAL: Will the Minister Jodhpur, Gwalior and other airports under of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: the control of Army; and

(a) whether the Government propose to (c) if so, whether Government propose convert the metre gauge railway line between to provide the said facility at Neemuch? Kashipur and Ramnagar into broad-gauge; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MIN ISTAY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHAI (b) if so, when? HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) to (c). There is no scope at present for Vayudoot providing THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHAI a service to Neemuch because of constraint JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) and (b). of aircraft, paucity of resources, and the non- Moradabad-Kashipur-Ramnagar BG line was viability of such operations. opened to traffic in June' 1988. Power Generation In Eighth Plan [English] 1896. SHRI MULLAPPALLY Utlll8ation of Naemuch Airfield for RAMACHANDRAN: Will the Minister of Vayudoot Service ENERGY be pleased to state:

(a) the total energy production capacity 1895. OR. LAXMINARAVAN in the country as on 30 September, 1990; PANDEYA: Will the Minister of CIVil AVIA- TION be pleased to state: (b) the annual production of power 107 Written Answers JANUARY 8.1991 Written AnswelS 108 during 1988 and 1989 and the total produc- bert 1990 was about 64.000 MW. tion during first three quarters of 1990; (b) The power generation during 1988- (c) the rate of growth in demand and 89, 1989-90 and 1990-91 (upto December, supply of power during the past three years; 1990) is as under:

(d) the power production target fixed Year Generation (in MUs) under the Eighth Five Year Plan; 1988-89 221125 (e) whether the Government propose to cut the plan target; and 1989-90 245141

1990-91 194032 (f) if so, the reasons thereof? (upto Dec. '90)

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) The details of the actual power MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO supply position in the country and the annual DHAKANE): (a) The installed generating percentage growth rate for the last three capacity in the country as on 30th Septem- years are given below:-

1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 1989-90

Requirement (MU) 192356 210993 223194 247762

Annual Growth rate (°/0) .7 11.0

Availability (MU) 174276 187976 205909 228151

Annual Growth rate (°/0) 7.9 9.5 10.8

(d) to (f). Eighth Plan has not been (c) the facts regarding 'operating ratio' finalised so far by the Planning Commission. of the different zonal railways?

Financial Performance of NEFR and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHAI NER JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) The economics of working of Indian Railways is normalfy 1897. SHRI RAMESHWAR PATIDAR: judged for the system as a whole and as Will the Minister of RAilWAYS be pleased to such no individuat Railway is considered to state: be a loosing Railway. However, if the operating results of Northeast Frontier and North (a) whether the North East Frontier and Eastern Railways are taken in isolation, they North Eastern Railway Zones are incurring may be considered to be incurring losses. losses chronicaJly; (b) The deficitllosses incurred by these (b) if so, the factors contributing to it and two Zonal Railways are due to various ad~ the steps taken to eliminate the losses; verse factors inherent in the system, such as and the traffic mix, quantum and nature of traffic 109 Written Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 11 0 offering and unfavourable working rondi- (c) if not, how many meetings were held tions, including natural factors such as ter- by the Committee since 26 April, 1990 and rain floods etc. necessitating higher expen- the steps taken/proposed by Government to diture on maintenance of track. Steps are expedite the report? taken to economise in working expenses and improve earnings through better pro- THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND ductivity of manpower and material re- CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- sources, saving in fuel. preventing ticket- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA less travel and other losses, and more ef- PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. fective marketing efforts. (b) The report is currently under ex- (c) The Operating Ratio of different amination of the Government. Zonal Railways for 1989-90 was as under:- (c) Does not arise. CR 78.890/0 Setting up of a Power Plant at Bettiah in ER 107.64% Bihar

NR 83. 470/u 1899. SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD VARMA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be NER 169.37% pleased to state:

NFR 177.60% (a) whether the people and the industnes of West Champaran and East Champaran SR 124.02% districts of Bihar are seriously affected due to shortage of power: SCR 90.070/0 (b) if so, whether Government propose SER 75.160/0 to set up 1000 MW power plant at Bettiah: and WR 77.71%

Bombay High and Heera Oil Fields (c) if so, the details thereof and it not, the reasons therefor? 1898. SHRI RAM NAIK: WiJlthe Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to refer to the reply given on 28 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE August, 1990 to Unstarred Question No. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHAI BABANRAO 3262 regarding Bombay High and Heera Oil DHAKNE): (a) The power shortage in Bihar FIelds and state: during April-November, 1990 was of the order of 26.4%. The supply of power to (a) whether Government have received various categories of consumers is decided r0port of the Committee appointed on 26th by the State Authorities, keeping In view the ,A.pril. 1990: overall demand for power and its availability.

(b) if so, the recommendations and (b) and (c). There is no proposal to set findings of the Committee: dnd up 1000 MW power plant at Bettiah. 111 Written Answers JANUARY 8. 1991 WrlUen Answers 112

Return of Security Deposits to Consurn- Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ,rsby DESU (a) the number of over bridges proposed 1900. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: to be constructed on railway tracks of Kanpur SHRI JAGPAL SINGH: city and its rural areas;

Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased (b) the time by which the construction to state: work of over-bridges of Kanpur rural area would start and the expenditure to be incurred (a) whether the Delhi Electricity Under- thereon; and taking (OESU) takes years to refund the security deposits made by the consumers (c) the time which these works are likely during their life-time for domestiC power IG be completed? supply to their widows; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRt (b) if so. the reasons therefor; JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) Oneoverbridge in replacement of level crossing No. 79 on (c) the number of such cases pending Grand Trunk Road has been sanctioned in at the DESU. Shankar Road Office. New Railway's works programme of 1990-91 on Delhi since 1989 particularly from the Re- sponsoring by the State Government. The o habilitation Colonies like East Patel Nagar; Railway has not so far received firm proposal and for any other road overbridge in Kanpur rural areas from the State Government. (d) the immediate steps being taken to ensure refunds being made to the widows (b) The work will be taken up for ex- concerned. who had made repeated repre- ecution after finalisation of the scheme as sentations and verbal submissions over this well as the estima1e forthe bridge approaches long penod? by the State Government.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) As the work is still In the planning MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANR~O stage. the tIme for its completion has not DHAKANE): (a) to (d). According to DES\J. been fixed so far. a well defined procedure already eXlst&for the transfer of electricity connections. and [ Translation] refund of security deposits to the widows within a reasonable time after completion of Samastlpur-Darbhanga Railway Line the prescribed commercial formalities. Ap- propriate action is taken whenever any 1902. SHRI BHOGENORA JHA: Will specific case of undue delay or harassment the Minister of RAILWAYS be p1eClsed to to the consumer is brought to the notice of state the names of the places and the nature DESU. No such case is reported to be pend- of work completed or is in progress in regard ing since 1989 in Shanker Road OffIce of to the construction of broad gauge line be- DESU. which also caters to the consumers tween Samastipur and Oarbhanga and the of East Patel Nagar. amount spent from the total allocations made during the current budget year. item-wise? Over Bridges in Kanpur Dislri(,t THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 1901. SHRI KESHARI LAl: Will the JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) Work prepara- 113 Written Answ91S PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 tory to taking up construction viz. prepara- (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the tion of detailed plans and designs for yards amount of losses suffered during each of the and bridges has been commenced. Upto last three years; end of Sept. 90 an amount of Rs. 41akhs has been spent out of the allocation of Rs. 4.09 (c) the steps taken by the Government crores for the current year. to check the losses and run the collieries in profit; and [English] (d) the scheme of Government to earn FIrat Class Re.ervatlon Quota In more profit therefrom in future? Dlmapur Booking Office THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI 1903. SHAI SHIKIHO SEMA: win the KALYAN SINGH KAlVI): (a) Since its in- Minister of RAilWAYS be pleased to state: ception, coal India Limited, has been suffering losses every year except during the year (a) whether only one seat in 1st Class for 1981-82 and 1989-90 when it earned a profit the State of Nagaland at Dimapur Railway of Rs. 34.20 crores and Rs. 80.13 crores Booking Office has been allocated; respectively.

(0) if so. the reasons thereof? (b) Main reason for losses in coal India Limited, is that in the past the increase in (c) whether there IS a proposal to In- administered price did not fully cover the crease this quota; and escalation-in the cost of various inputs like wages, power, fuel, explosives. capital etc. (d) if so, the details thereof? and there was always a time lag between price increase and escalation in the oost of THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI inputs. Low productivity has also been re- JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) No, Sir. sponsible for losses. Profit!loss of ell during the last 3 years is given below:- (b) Does not arise.

(c) and (d). A quota of 30 first Class and Year Profit/loss 12 AC sleeper berths is already available at (Rs. in crores) Dimapur in various trains. There is no pro- (+) (-) posal to increase the same due to limited availability of accommodation and full 1987-88 (-) 224.64 utilisation of quotas at other stations. 1988-89 (-) 23.26 [ Translation] 1989-90 (+) 80.13 LOS88S In Coal Mines (c) Some of the important steps to 1904. SHRI RAMDAS SINGH; Will the contain the losses of Coal India limited and Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: increase its efficiency are briefly in-dicated below:- (a) whether the collieries have ben running at a loss since their nationalisation (i) Increase in production and pro- except during the year from 19n to 1980; ductivity, with special emphasis 115 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answ8ts 116

on underground mines. (Eng/ish]

(ii) Improvement in availability and Complaints Against LPG AgencieS In utilisation of equipment by pro- Outer Deihl viding adequate workshop support, improved management of 1905. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will spares and timely rehabilitation the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- of equipment. CALS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Government have (iii) Improved manpower planning received complaints against LPG agencies including redeployment of sur- regarding alleged malpractices in Outer Delhi plus workers and restricting the especially from Meera Bagh. Sunder Vihar, intake of new employees against Peeragarhi, Jwalahedi and Punjabi 8agh in vacancies caused by natural this regard; wastage. (b) if so, action taken thereon; and

(iv) Economy in the consumption of (c) the steps taken to safeguard the spares and various other inputs interest of the consumors against such by imprOVing blasting efficiency, malpractices? power factor and improved inventory control. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLlA- (v) Improved monitoring of cost re- ME"NTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA duction measures. PRAKASH MALVIYA); (a) to (c). All complaints received against the LPG distributors are investigated and wherever established (vi) Efforts are being made to reduce appropriate action, ranging from issuing of the total outstandings against warning letters to even termination of dis- major consumers like State tributorship, it taken in accordance with the Electricity Boards. Marketing Discipline Guidelines and Dis- tributorship Agreements, During the year (vii) A number of systems improv~ 1990 (upto November) 7 compfaints have ment and managerial measures been established so far against LPG agen- have been adopted to improve cies operating in Outer Delhi. Regular and efficiency of operations. surprise checks are carried out by the field staff of LPG Marketing Oil companies to check malpractices. (viii) Efforts towards reorganisation of existing mines to improve pro- Power Station In Salempur In U.P. ductivity. 1906. SHRI HARI KEWAL PRASAD: (d) As a result of these efforts man and Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to machine productivity in Coal India Limited state: has improved during the last few years and consequently Coal India Limited have earned (a) whether 132 K.V. power station ;n a profit of As. 80.13 crores during 1989-90. Salempur in Uttar Pradesh is ready to be 117 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 commissioned: (a) whether there is a proposal for introduction of a new pair of trains from New (b) if so. the reasons for delay in com- Coochbehar to Calcutta; and missioning it; (b) if so, the decision taken thereon? (c) whether sub-standard equipment has been reportedly used therein: and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) No, Sir. (d) if so, the details of the action being taken against the officers responsible (b) Does not arise. therefor? Railway Lines in Bihar and W.B. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO 1908. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA: Will the DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The 132 KV power Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: station at Salempur in U.P. was mitially targetted for commissioning in March, 1989 (a) the details of the new railway hnes but could not be completed by the UPSEB under construction in Bihar and West Ben- due to acute financial constraints. It is now gal; targetted for commissioning in March 1991. (b) whether the work IS progressing , (e) No, Sir. according to the schedule;

(d) Does not anse (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and

New Trains from New Coochbehar to (d) the target dates fixed and the dates Calcutta by which the each work is likely to be completed? 1907. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI state: JANESHWAR MISHRA): 119 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 120

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Doubling of Cochin-Trlvendrum and findings of the survey report. Shoranur-Mangalor. Lines Thapar.. Dupont tie-up 1909. SHRI A. VLJAYARAGHAVAN: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased 1910. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will the to state: Minlsterof PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Railways had undertaken any survey for douhling the railway line (a) whether the attention of the Gov· from Cochin to Trivendrum and Shoranur to ernment has been drawn to the news item Mangalore in Kerala; captioned "Thapar-Dupont tie-up may be snapped- appearing in the Economic Times (b) if so, the details thereof; and of 18 September, 1990;

(c) the proposed time schedu:e for (b) if so, the reaction of the Government doubling the lines, if any? thoreon; and

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRt (c) since when these joint venture JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) to (c). A survey proposals are pending and the reasons for was carried out for doubling on Kayankulam- delay in their clearance? Trivandrum section alongwith an alternative 8G alignment via Kottarakara and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Nodumanged. As the alternative alignment CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- was not found to be financially viable, the MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRJ SATYA doubling of Kayankulam-Quiton and Quilon- PRAKASH MAlVIYA): (a)to (c). Yes, Sir. MI Trivandrum was approved in theyears 1989- s Thapar Du Pont submitted a cO(l1posite 90 and 1990-91 respectively. application for foreign collaboration and import of capital goods for setting up of a unit in A Preliminary Engineermg·cum-Traffic Goa for the manufacture of Nylon-66 Tyre Survey has been approvod in 19~)O-91 to Cord/Industrial Yarn in technical and finan· examlnethefeasibility and need for doubling cial collaboration with MIs. E.I. Du Pont de of Shoranur-Mangalore section. Nemours & Co. of USA. Decision on such proposals are taken on techno·economic On Ernakulam (eochin) Kayankulam considerations after the evaluation of the 5ection, an alternative BG line has been project proposals. taken up for construction viaAlleppey. Qutof this BG line, Ernakulam-AUeppey section LPG Cylinder Blast In Hospital in has been commissioned in October, 1989 Bangalore and the line on Alleppey-Kayankulam is likely to be completed during 1991-92. When 1911. SHAI JOSS FERNANDEZ: Will completed, it will provide double line facility the MinistGr of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- on this section-one the existing line via CALS be pleased to state: Kottayam and the other via Alleppey. (a) whether there was an explosion in Completion of doubling on Kayankulam- the Nuture Cure Hospital in Bangalore City Quilon-Trivandrum would depend upen the due to leakage of an LPG cylinder; :vailability of resources. Doubling on Mangalore-Shoranur would depend on the (b) if so, the details of the incident and 123 Written AnsW9fS JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 124 the number of casualties; (a) the details of gas based power plants set up in Andhra Pradesh. and the names of (c) wh ether any inquiry has been ordered the pending ones; and in this regard;

(d) if so, the findings thereof? (b) the quantum of power generated by them and by when the pending projects are THE MINISTER OF PEmOLEUMAND likely to be deared? CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). An acci- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dent took place in the Nature Cure Hospital, MINISTRYOFENERGY(SHRIBABANRAO Bangalore on 14.11.90 due to leakage of DHAKANE): (a) and (b). On generating set LPG following an attempt to connect a refill of 33 MWof Vijjeswaram coined gas turbine cylinder. In the accident 13 persons were (2 x 33 MW Gas Turbine ... 1 x 33 MW Steam injured but there was no death. Turbine)wascommissionedon31stAugust. 1990: second set of 33 MW of gas turbine (c) and (d). The accident has been generating station and one unit of Steam investigated by the officials of Indian Oil Turbine of 33 MW is envisaged to be com- Corporation. An FIR has been fil9d 'with the missioned by January and June, 1991 re- Police. spectively. The details of the Project Reports in respect of installation of gas-based power Setting up of Gas based Power Plants plants in Andhra Pradesh and the status of In Andhra Pradesh their clearance are contained in the statement given below. 1912. SHRI T. MANEMMA: SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: The Vijjeswaram Combined Cycle Gas Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased station generated 17 Million Units during to state: November-December, 1990. 125 Written AnswetS PAUSA 18. 191,2'(SAKA) Written Answers 126

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- 129 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 130

[ Translation] Institute, Dehradun during the last two finan- I cial years; Recruitment of Labourers In Weslern Coalfields Limited (b) whethel research papers in these seminars were read out in Hindi also as per 1913. SHRI HARI BHAU SHANKAR the directive issued by the Government; MAHALE: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pJeased to state: (c) if not, the reasons for violating these directives; and (a) whether complaints have been re .. ceived by the Government regarding the (d) the details of the action proposed to bogus recruitment of labourers in the Western be taken in future in this regard? Coalfields Limited, Nagpur, affecting the retrenchment of a large number of regular THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND labourers thera; and CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA (b) if so, the details thereof and tt1e PRAKASH MAL VIYA): (a) An expendIture of action taken by the Government in this regard Rs. 20,0001- and Rs. 20,241/- respectively and also the details of the action taken was spent by Keshava Deva Malviya Insti- against the erring officials? tute of Petroleum Exploration on seminars/ conference in 1988-89 and 1989-90 re- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI spectively. KAL YAN SINGH KALVI): (a) and (b). Western Coalfield Limited had recruited certain ex- (b) Yes, SIr. casuals in accordance with settlements reached with certain Trade Unions. Com- (c) Does not arise. plaints have been received in WCL from the President, Rashtriya Koyla Khadan Mazdoor (d) Scientif,c & technical officers are

Sangh; General Secretary I Western being encouraged to write & present techn ical Coalfields Ltd., SC/ST/Be Employees papers in Hindi, as part of the policy to Council; Md. Haneef and seven others of jncrea~q the use of Hindi in official work. Kanhan Area and Secretary, SC/ST Coun- cil, Majri Breach alleging irregularities re- [English] garding age, impersonation, seniority of ex- casuals etc.• in the matter of recruitment. Demand of Indian 011 Corporation These complaints are under various stages Workers of investigation. There has been no retrenchment of any regular worker in WCL. 1915. SHRIINDRA fiT GUPTA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS Symposia by ONGC, Dehradun be pleased to state:

1914. KUMARI UMA 8HARATI: Will (a) whether the workers of the Indian Oil the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI· Corporation have submitted a memorandum CALS be pleased to state: to outlining their long standing demands; and (a) the detaits of expenditure incurred on symposia/seminars on science organised (b) if so, the details thereof and Gov- in Keshav Dev Malviya Petroleum Research ernment' reaction thereto? 131 Written Answers J_.ANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 132

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND STATEMENT CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA The Memorandum of Understanding PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). The was entered into on 12th October, 1990 Petroleum Workers Union, Indian Oil Unit. between the Impact India Foundation and submitted a memorandum addressed to the the President of India (Ministry of Railways), Director (Marketing) IOC on 7.12.1990 de- in consideration of the Impact India Foun- manding:- dattons' proposal to set up a Mobile Hospital Unit to catarto on the spot diagnostic, medical i) Implementation of computer and surgir..al treatment for prevention and settlement. curative intervention to restore sight, mobil- ity and hearing to the people living in the rural ii) Increase in transport subsidy. areas.

iii) Finalisation of a good promotion The Impact India Foundation agreed to policy in a meeting with the man- do the following: . agement. ( i) The pilot project will be taken up in iv) Issueof promotion orders for Grade the State of Bihar in the first in- I to V without further delay. stance. However, projects in other States may be considered to be v) Immediate meeting to finalise the initiated in due course after due Long Term Settlement. appraisal of the pilot project by both the parties. Most of the points raised by the regional Url.t of (PWU) Petroleum Workers Union are (ii) The activities especially made of all India nature and, therefore, need to be available by the Impact India discussed in All-India meeting with the main Foundation, confining to the stations units of all the recognised Unions in the indicated by ED (Coaching) work- Corporation. ing with the Ministry of Railways in the terntory comprised in the State Care on Wheels of Bihar for the pilot project, and after due appraisal referred to above 1916. SHAI PAATAP StNGH: Will the in other States subsequently after Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: successful implementation in Bihar, which are connected by Broad (a) whether the Memorandum of Un- Gauge system of the Railways. derstanding has since been finalised in respect of the project 'Care on Wheels' pro- (iii) To furnish ;Specifications and other posed to be taken up in Bihar by the 'Impact technical details for re-modelling of of India Foundation'; and the rolling stock (8G coaches) by the Ministry of Railways within one (b) nso, the details thereof? month from the date of the Memo- randum of understanding. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI

JANESHWAR MfSHRA): (a) Yes, Sir. (iv) The bear all cost of such ra-mod-I elling and refurnishing of rolling (b) A statement is given below. stock. 133 Written AnswelS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

(v) To bear the cost. of all ancillary generating set which shall be sup- arrangements, electricity, waterl plied to the Impact India Foundation sanitary and other requirements after receipt of the cost of sets from etc., including hydraulic hoist for them. shifting of patients from ground level to the carriage. (v) To charge as a very special case 50010 of the cost of operation and (vi) To bear 500/0 of the cost of opera- maintenance for coaching services. tions. maintenance/repairs of the coaching services which wil1 be (vi) To indicate through ED (Coaching) indicated by the Ministry of Railways working with the Ministry of Rail- from time to time and the same ways the stations where the above shall be paid by the Impact India said medical facilities as described Foundation forthwith. in the Memorandum can be provided. (vii) To bear the entire cost of all ancillaries including generating (vii) To endeavour to give any facility sets, medical equipment and mis- requested for by the Impact India cellaneous equipments. Foundation after receipt of cost from them. (viii) To undertake all social, technical and medical work in running the (viii) To endeavour to run coaches by mobile hospitals. convenient trains as desired by the Impact India foundation as may be The Minister of Railways agreed to do found operationally convenient but the following:- will not be responsible for any de- lays as a result of dislocation, dis- (i) To spare three ordinary BG coaches ruption or otherwise. for use by the Impact India Foun- dation after remodelling. Facilities to Retired Employees of Locomotive Workshop. Amritsar (ii) To prepare the Astimate of cost of re-modelling of the above men- 1917. SHRI KIRPAL SINGH: Will the tioned BG coaches within two Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: months of furnishing of the details of remodelling of the coaches by (a) whether it is a fact that the Gov- the Impact India Foundation. The ernment have not given railway pass facility cost of remodelling would be non- to those retired employees who remained in negotiable. service from 30.10.43 to 28.10.73 in the Amritsar Locomotive Workshop; (iii) Remodelling of the coaches shall be started only after the receipt of (b) nso, the number of such employees the full cost and compatible equip- and the reasons therefor; ment (n any) from the Impact India Foundation and completod within (c) whether it is also a fact that some six months of receipt of such cost. employees are getting only Rs. 89/- P.M. as pension whereas the minimum rate of pen- (iv) To give estimate of cost of diesel sion in Government of India is Rs. 375/- p. m.; 1~5 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 136

(d) if so, the number of such retired (b) the facilities being made available to railway employees; and tourists in this train;

(c) the name of fixed route on which this (e) whether Government propose \0 train runs weekly/monthly alongwitt, the give minimum pension of Rs. 375/- and namesoftourist spots throughwhich it passes railway pass facility to these retired railway as also its time of halt at each spot; pensioners? (d) the total number of Indian and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI foreign tourists who travelled by this train JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) and (b). In and tho revenue earned therefrom during accordance with the extant Rules, post-re- each of the last three years; tirement Complimentary passes are granted to those retired Railway employees who (e) whether it is proposed to make a halt retIre after putting in the mInimum requIsite of this train at AJmer (Rajasthan); and Railway service. Those retired employees who did not have this minimum qualifying (f) if not. the reasons therefor? Railway service were not given Railway passes. The number of such employees is THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI being obtained. JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) The 'Palace on Wheels' train comprises of saloons belong- (c) and (d). No, Sir There is no case of ing to the erstwhile Maharajas which were such retired employees borneon pensionable renovated/refurnished at a cost of Rs. 49.44 establishment getting pension of Rs. 89/- lakhs In 1981-82. p.m. (b) The facilities provided to the tourists (e) Minimum pension has already been onthis train include sleeping accommodation raised to Rs. 375/- p.m. w.e.f. 01.01.86 in in twolfour berth cabins, a lounge and a\. case of retired employees borne on pen- kitchenette in each saloon, running hot and sionable establishment. There is no proposal cold water in bathrooms, a library, a mini bar, to grant- post-retirement complimentary first aid, a dining car, etc. passes to such of the retired railway employees as do not satisfy the minimum (c) The 'Palace on Wheels' is a weekly Railway service condition for pass eligibility. service leaving Delhi Cantt every Wednes- day from October to March and passes [ Translation] through Jaipur-Chittaurgarh-Udaipur- Jaisalmer-Jodhpur-Bharatpur-Agra and back 'Palace on Wheel' Train to Delhi Cantt. From Bharatpur the tourists are also taken to Fatehpur SIkri by road. 1918. PROF. RASA SINGH AAWAT: Halting time varies from 2 hours to 20 hours Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to depending upon the requirement of the sight state: seeing programme.

(a) the amount spent by the Government (d) The total number of tourists travelled on the manufacture of 'Palace on Wheel' and net earnings during the last three years train; is as und~r: 137 Written Answers PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) Written Ans wers 138

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No. of Tourists 1747 2212 2282

Earnings (in lakhs of rupees) 148.73 199.17 246.16

(9) No, Sir. the export cargo aggregation centre and CFSs are being operated by the private (f) It is not feasible to fit In a halt at Ajmer Sectors, all eXisting ICDs are operated and In the weekly itinerary of the train. owned by Government Agencies. However, certain specific activities such as handling [English] and transportation of cargo are being con- tracted to private sector agencies on com- Privatfsation of container depots and mercial basis. freight stations [Translation] 1919. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: Export of Coal from Bihar SHAI BASUDEB ACHARIA: 1920. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to pleased to state: state: , (a) whether the Governm ent propose to (a) the quantity of coal and other by- privatise container depots and container products of coal exporters during the last two freight stations, if so. the reasons therefor; years from Bihar;

(b) whether there is any difficulty in (b) whether anytime-bound programme execution of the process of privatisation in to increase the e)(port of coal from Bihar has regard to economic implications of the de- been chalked out; and cision; and (c) it so, the details thereof? (c) if so, the details thereof and the steps proposed to meet the same? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI KALYAN SING KALVI): (a) to (c). The infor- THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI mation is being collected and will be laid on JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) to (c). With a the Table of the House. view to expecting the development of containerisation and to fncilitate growth of [English] multimodal transport s~rvic&s, on cost effective basis, participation of prWJa sector World Bank Assistance for Indian in Inland Container Depots (ICDs) and Con- Railways tainer Freight Stations (CFSs) has been examined from time to time. While some of 1921. SHRI R. GUNDU RAO: 139 Written AnSW91S JANUARY 8, 1991 Wr""" AnsMHS 140

SHRI GOPI NATH THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE GAJAPATHI: MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVlATtON (SHAI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. WHt the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) There is no proposal currently under co~deration for acquisition of such new (8) whether the Government propose to aircraft in view of paucity of resources and expand the railway system during thA next the viability ot such operations. few years with World Bank assistance; [English] (b) if so, the quantum of assistance likely to be provided by the World Bank for Setting up of Thlrlkaripur Power Plant the same; In Kerala

(c) the terms and condition of the 1923. SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHAlA: agreement entered into with the World Bank Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to in this regard; and state:

(d) the extent to which the railway lines! (a) whether there is any proposal for projects would be improved with this assis- setting up of a Thermal power station in tance? Thirikaripur in Kerala; and

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) to (d). Tllere.s (b) if so, the details thereof and when no proposal to seek World Bank assistance the work on the project is likely to be taken forthe expansion of the railway system during up? the next few years.

However. a missfon recently identified a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE project for upgradation of rolling stock. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The Feasibility [Translation] Report for installation of a 2 x 210 MW Thermal Power Station in State-I at Small Aircraft for Operation In Hilly Thirikaripur in Kerala was received in the Areas Central Electricity Authority from Kerala State Electricity Board in September, '89. The 1922. SHRI MAHESHWAR SINGH: State Authorities have been asked to obtain Will the Minister of CIVil AVIATION be clearance from the Southern Naval Com- pleased to state: mand before the scheme could be considered for techno-economic clearance. A thermal (a) whether there are operational diffi- Power Station with an ultimate capacity of culties in providing big a.rcraft to serve the 3000 MW has been proposed by the Kerala hilly area due to shorter run-ways; and Government at Thirikaripur in the Central Sector. A Team appointed for selection of (b) if so, whether the Government the site has not suggested location of a propose to go in for smaller aircrafts suitable thermal power plant in Malabar, Kerala to for shorter run-ways with a view to promoting yield benefits in the 8th Plan Period either in tourism? the State or in the Central Sector. 141 Written Answers PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 142

Harnes.lng of Wind Energy In GuJarat [ Translation]

1924. SHRI VAMANRAO MAHADIK: Railway "lIne From Guwahatl to Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Tlnsukhla state: 1925. SHRI PYARELAL KHANDElWAl: Will the Minister of RAIL- (a) whether the recent experiment to WAYS be pleased to state: produce power with wind mills in Gujarat has proved successful; (a) whether demands had been made for the construction of broad-guage rail line from Guwahati to Tinsukhia; (b) if so, whether the Government propose to use this method in some other parts (b) if so, the steps being taken in this of the country; and regard?

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) the names of other non-conventional sources of energy being used at present (b) Dusto acute constraint of resources for generating power in the country? and heavy commitments in hand, the Plan- ning Commission has not agreed to take up THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE this project at present. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIBABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The total [Eng/ish] wind power capacity established in the country stands at 34 MW. This includes 12 Ghazlabad Rail Terminal wind farm demonstration projects of aggre- gate capacity 31.4 MW set up in 7 States, 1926. SHAI K.C. TVAGI: Will the Min- including Gujarat. The cumulative genera-' ister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: tion from the wind farm projects has reached (a) whether Government propose to 6. 1 crere units. The total installed capacity in make Ghaziabad a rail terminal; and Gujarat is 14 MW and about 2 erore units have been to the State Grid. The dem- fed (b) if so, when it is likely to be imple- onstration projects have shown that wind mented? power generation is viable, takes a short time to install and commission, and can THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI supplement conventional power. JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) No, Sir.

(c) Demonstration projects based on (b) Does not arise. solar photovolta;cs and biomass energy conversion_ ~re under implementation for [ Translation] decsntralised power generation. in different SeUing up of 8 Thermal Power Station parts of the country. Experimental Power at Katlhar In Bihpr plants based on solar thermal eneOrgy and 1927. SHRI YUVRAJ: Will the Minister agricultural wastes have also been taken up. of ENERGY be pleased to state: 143 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 144

(a) whether there is any proposal to set (b) if so, thedetails thereof and the time up a thermal power station at Katihar in by which the work will be undertaken and Bihar; completed: and

(b) if so, by when it is likely to be set up; (c) if not, the reasons therefor? and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (c) if not, the reasons therefor? JANESHWAR MtSHRA): (a)to (c). The State Government had initiated a proposal for the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE road overbridge a few years ago, but they MIN ISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO have not yet finalised the scheme for the DHAKANE): (a)to (c). The Central Electricity work, accorded priority and sponsored it to Authority have not received any proposal for the Railways for inclusion in the Works setting up a thermal power station at Katihar Programme. in Bihar. Price Preference to the SSI sector [English} 1930. SHRI RAMESHWAR PRASAD: Group 'A' Officers on Ra ilways Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: 1928. SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV: Will the Minister of nAILWAYS be (Q) whether the All India Small Scale pleased to state the total number of Group Pharmaceutical Manufacturers' AssociQtlon 'A' officers on the Indian Railways grade- has pointed out that the Directorate General wise, department-wise, and zone-wise of Supply and Disposal was not complytng showing the strength of RDSO, Railway with the Govarnment orders of giving 15 per Board and other units separately? cent price preference to the S51 sector in Government purr.hase; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA (b) if so, the facts in this regard: and CHARAN DAS): In!ormation is being collected an will be laid on the Table of the (c) the steps the Government propose Sabha. to take for the redressal of their grievances?

Overbridge between Jalandhar and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Jalandhar Cantt. CHEMICALS AND MJNISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA 1929. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHHY: Will PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) No such complaint the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to appears to have been received. state: (b) and (C). Do not arise. (a) whether the Government have any proposal for construction of an overhridge Review of National Energy Policy across the main line between Jalandhar and ,Jalandhar Cantt. railway stations on road leading to Hoshiarpur in place l)f the existing 1931. PROF. VIJAY KUMAn level crossing near Rama Mandi Chowk MALHOTRA: Will the Minister of ENERGY near Jalandl1ar Cantt. railway station; bA pleased to state: 145 Written Answers PAUSA ·18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

(a) whether the Government propose to completion of this proJect? review the existing energy policy and work- Ings of the menhoned energy strategy for THE MINISTER 011 RAILWAYS (SHRI their use, savings and efficient performance JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) New hne be- of all facts of the energy, tween Adllabad and Plmpalkuttl has been approved. (b) If so, the details thereof, (b) Dunng 1990-91 an allocation of Rs (c) whether the Government propose to 400 crores has been made for the project set a high powered committee to go mto details with a view to eliminate the mal- (c) The work IS targetted for completion practices and wastage of the energy; and dunng 1991-92

(d) If so, the details thereof and the time [ Translation] by which the proposed action IS likely to be taken? Manufacture of Concrete Sleepers in Railway Workshop, Barellly THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOF ENEnGY (SHRI BABANRAO 1933 SHRI RAJVEER SINGH Will the DHAKANE) (a) and (b) The energy polley, Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to stah~ including the rational and effiCient use of energy In the economy, IS reviewed while (a) whether the Government are aware formulating the Five Year Plans/ of the decrease In production In the Railway Programmes In formulating tho Eighth Five Sleeper Depot, Bareilly, Year Plan, Implication of the present energy sItuation Will be kept In view (b) It so, whether It IS propos(ld to undertake manufacture concrete sleepers (c) No, Sir there,

(d) Doer; not arise (c) If so, the time by which It IS likely to materialise. and Linking of Adilabad to Delhi-Nagpur Roule (d) If not, the reasons therefor?

1q32 SHRI P NARSA REDDY' Will the THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MInister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state JANESHWAR MISHRA) (a) Yes, Sir

(a) whether approval has been accorded (b) and (c) NOt Sir A factory In Pnvatp for the construction of broad gauge line from Sector for manufacture of MG Concretp Adl1ab8d to Delhl-Nagpur maIO line via Sleepers has already been set up In the Plmpalkuttl and Want. same premises and IS In production

(b) If so. the allocation of funds made for (d) In view the Itmlted financial re- this project dunng 1990-91. and sources With Railways. no departmental factOries for concrete sleepers are now be (c) the further stops homo tnken for the Inn set up, as a policy 147 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 148

[Eng/ish) Import of Drug Intermediate. for Manufacture of Anti TB Drug. Stoppag801 GaetanJall and Pushpak Trains at Naslk 1936. SHRI UTIAM RATHOD: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS 1934. DR. DAULATRAO SONUJI be pleased to state: AHER: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (a) the names of 'drug intermedi~tes which are imported for manufacture df anti (a) whether there are demand for TB Drugs in the coun~ry; stoppage of the Geetanjali and Pushpak (Lucknow) trains at Nasik Road Railway (b) the reasons for disparity in Customs Station; and Duty for its intermediates; and

(b) if so. the adion taken/proposed to (c) the steps taken by Government to be taken in the matter? remove the discrimination?

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHAt THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND JANESHWAA MISHRA): (a) Yes, Sir. CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA (b) Were examined but not found fea- PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Major drug in- sible. termediates imported for the manufacture of anti T.B. drugs and 3 Formyl Rifampicin SV, Printing of Railway Reservation Forms Rifampicin 5. 2-Cyanopyrazone. 01-2, aminobutanol etc. 1935. SHRt NARSINGHRAO SURYAWANSHI: Will the MiOister of RAIL- (b) and (c). Customs duty on the inter- WAYS be pleased to state: mediates have been kept at different levels depending upon the development of pro- (a)whetherthe raUway reservation forms duction of the bulk drug in the country from are printed in the regional language 'n the the basic stages. The que:;tion of level of State particularly in Karnataka; duty is reviewed from time to time.

(b) whether there is a demand for Landing of Alrcrafts at SafdarJung printing these forms in both English and Airport regional language; and 1937. SHAI NATHU SINGH: Will the (c) if so. the action taken in the matter. Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (a) whether the aircraft belonging to the JANESHWAR MJSHRA): (a) to (c). Railway flying clubs/general aviation/state Govern- resp-rvation forms are printed in Hindi, English ments air-craft without VIP are permitted to and the regional language in non ·Hindi land at Safdarjung Airport; spoaking areas However. on Southern Halfway, reservation forms are printed in (b) if not, the reasons therefor; Illndi and in English. and separately In the "'glonnl language of the region. (c) whether the Gove. nment propose to 149 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 allow general flying by the trainee pilots from Raids Conducted on Petrol·Pumps In Safdarjung airport; and Orissa

1939. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will (d) if not, the reasons therefor? the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- CALS be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ; (a) the number of raids conducted in MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI Orissa during the last three years on the HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) No, Sir. petrol/diesel ·pimps for adulteration and s~mples collected; (b) Due to security reasons. (b) the number of samples and the (c) and (d). There is no proposal at particulars of the laboratories where the present to relax the restrictions because of samples were tested and the outcome security requirements. thereof;

Power Projects During Eighth Plan (c) the number of persons against whom action has been taken and the number of 1938. SHAI G.M. BANATWALLA: those who were acquitted of the charges; SHAI MULLAPPALLY and

I RAMACHANDRAN: (d) whether the rules in this regard are Will the Ministerof ENERGYbe pleased proposed to be made stringent to save the to state: consumers?

(a) the original target of power genera- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND tion in Eighth Plan and whether Government CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- propose to cut in power target during the MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Eighth Plan; PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (d). Information is being collected and will be laid C'" 'n(\ t~ble (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and of the House.

(c) the allocation likely to be made for [Translation] power during the Eighth Plan? Gas Reserves In Ankaleshwar Gujarst THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOFENERGY(SHRJBABANRAO 1940. SHAI CHANDUBHAI DESMUKH: DHAKANE): (a) to (c). Based on a capacity Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND addition of about 38,000 MW, as recom- CHEMICALS be pleased to state: mended by the Department of Power, a gross generation of 411586 million units by (a) whether a large quantity of gas re- the end of the Eighth Plan period is envisaged. serves have been found in Ankleshwar However, the Eighth Plan is yet to be finalised (Gujarat); and therefore the allocations for the power sector, their capacity addition and generation (b) if so, whether Government propose programme that would materialise cannot to provide this gas to the public of this region bo determined at this stage. at a lesser rates; 151 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 152

(c) if so, when and the rates thereof; and (c) if so. the reasons tor not r8viting the rate of royalty in Madhya Pradesh during the (d) if not, the reasons therefor? last three years;

THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND (d) the grade-wise sale price of coal CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PAR- found in Madhya Pradesh in 1981 and LIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA comparative increased sale price; PRAKAsH MALVIVA): (a) The Ankaleshwar field has been on oil and gas production (e) the percentage of royalty on the sale since 1961. Balance recoverable reserves price of coal at pit-head before 1957 and the of 2,671 billion cubic mts of gas are estab- present percentage; and lished in'the Ankaleshwar region. (f) the time by which the rates of royalty (b) ~o, Sir. on coal are proposed to be revised?

(c) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI KALYANSINGH KALVI): (a) to (c). According (d) Prices of natural gas are fixed by the to Section 9 (3) of the Mines & Minerals Government, and are uniform from the entire (Regulation and Development) Act 1957, country, except in the N-E region where Central Government may enhance rates of concesslonal prices are given. Natural gas royalty on coal once in three years. The is being and would be, supplied at the rates royalty on coal was last revised w.e.f. contained in the pricing regime accounted 13.2.1981. Thereafter it oould not be revised by the Government from tIme to time. in view of the problems posed by the imposition of very heavy Cessllevies on coal by Royalty on Coal some State Governments.

1941. SHRI LOKENDRA SINGH: (d) GraCi\e-wise basic price of coal mined SHRI PYARELAL in Madhya Pradesh during 1981 and 1991 is KHANDELWAL: given 1n the statement- I given below.

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[English] THE MINISTER OF RAilWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) No, Sir. Dispensary at Kolhapur (b) Does not arise. 1942. SHRI UDAYSINGRAO GAIKWAD: Will the Minister of RAilWAYS Provision of AlC Chair Car In the be pleased to state: Cholan Express

(a) whether the Government are aware 1944. SHRI S. SINGARAVADIVEl: about the non-availability of whole time Will the Ministerof RAILWAYS be pleased to Doctors and nursing staff in the Railway state: dispensary at Kolhapur; (a) whether there is no Air-Condition (b) whetherthe railway staff at Kolhapur facility in any of the long distance trains on and in the surrounding areas is facing lot of the main line between Thanjavur and Madras difficulty as a result thereof; and in the Southern Railway;

(c) if so, the steps being taken by (b) whether there is demand for the Government to post the necessary staff and provision of the Ale Chair Car in the Cholan to ensure the proper functioning of the dis- Express and AlC Two Tier in Rameshwaram pensary for the be~efit of the railway staff? Express; and

THE MINISTER OF RAilWAYS (SHRI (c) the action proposed to be taken in JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) to (c). There is this regard? a lock-up dispensary at Kolhapur. A Medical Officers, Miraj, alongwith requisite para- THE MINISTER OF RAilWAYS (SHRI medical staff, visits the Kolhapur Dispensary JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) and (b). Yes, twice a week for attending on Railway Pa- Sir. tients. A Civil Hospital and other medical facilities are available at Kolhapur for any (c) Presently there is no proposal to emergencies. It is also well connected with provide an A.C. Chaircaron Cholan Express. trains to Miraj where there is a full fledged However, A.C. Sleepers are being provided Railway Health Unit. Posting of a full-time on a programmed baSIS. doctor and other para-medical staff at Kolhapur is not justified at present. [Translation]

New Rajdhani Express from Bombay to Allotment of Petrol Pumps and LPG Delhi Agencies in Madhya Pradesh

1943. SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: Will the 1945. SHRI RAGHAVJI:WilltheMinister Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: of PETROLEUM AND CHEMiCALS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government have decided to start a new Rajdhani Express from (a) the names of the places in Vidisha, Bombay to Delhi with stoppage at Surat; and Raisen and research district of Madhya Pradesh for which applications to set up (b) if so, the steps being taken in this retails outlet of diesel and petrol have been regard? received; 165 Wrilten Answenr PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 166

(b) whether any survey has been con- (c) if so, when the requests were made; ducted in this regard; and and

(c) if so, the details thereof and the (d) the steps taken in this regard? action taken thereon? THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt SATYA MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATVA PRAKASH MALVIVA): (a) The quantity of PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (c). Based on Kerosene allocated to Tamil Nadu between the surveys conducted by the oil industry on June-DecemberI 1990 is indicated below: the balis of interalia, local demand, requests from MPsl MLAs and State Govemment (Figs. in Tonnes) f' bodies etc., the following locations have been identified in Vidisha, Raisen and Sehora Month Allocation districts of Madhya Pradesh, for setting up retail outlet dealerships:- June, 1990 51028

District Locations July,1990 53464

Vidhisha V.dhisha, Mand.deep, August, 1990 53464 Lateri, Nateran, Tyonda, Bhalbamore, September, 1990 53464 and Mahanlm crossing October, 1990 53464 Raisen Siranj, Sanchi & Nakhtare November, 1990 59578

Sahore Bllklsganj December, 1990 58929

These are at various pre-commissioning (b) to (d). Requests have been received stages. from the Tamil Nadu Government for en- hancement of SKO quota for Tamil Nadu. [English] The latest request was received in Novem- ber, 1990. It has not been possible to increase Allocation of Kerosene to Tamil Nadu SKO allocations for Tamil Nadu during June- December, 1990 due to the Balance of 1946. SHAt P.R.S. VENKATESAN: payments problem which the country is Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND facing. CHEMICALS be pleased to state: Waiting List for LPG Connections in (a) the quantity of Kerosene allocated to Bangalore Tamil Nadu State in each month from June to December. 1990; 1947. SHAI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- (b) whether the Government have re- CALS be pleased to state: ceived any requests from Tamil Nadu Gov- ernment to increase the Quota; (a) the number of persons registered for 167 Written AnSwelS JANUARY 8, 1991

LPG connections till the end of October, earned in U.P. during October, 1990 and the 1990 in 8angalore city; loss suffered; and

(b) out of them. the number of persons (c) the reasons for the said loss? given new connections so far and upto which year the waiting list has been cleared; and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI JANESHWAR .MISHRA): (.> to (c). State- (c) the steps taken by the Government wise statistics of earnings from sale of tickets to clear the entire waiting list? at railway stations are not maintained.

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND [Eng/ish] CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Direct Traina from Kanyekumarl PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). A total number of approximately 2.91 lakh persons 1949. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Min- have been given LPG connections as on ister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 31.10.1990 in Bangalore ci1y. Approximately 89,000 persons are registered with the dis- (a) whethar there is any proposal to tributors for new connections and are on the introduce mora direct express trains from waiting list. In case of Indian Oil Corporation Kanyakumari to important places in the and Hindustan Petroleum Corporation the country; and waiting list in BangaJore city has been pending since 1987 and that of Bharat Petroleum (b) if so, the details thereof? Corporation 1988. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (c) New LPG connections are released JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) No. Sir. all over the country in a phased manner under the annual programme for enrollment (b) Does not arise. of customers. subject to availability of LPG. The availability is being further augmented Stoppage of Nllachal &pre. At through enhanced produdion and import...... hwllrStation

[ Translation] 1950. SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNf"" Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pJws.. 10 Sale of Tickets state:

1948. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR (a) whether there has been a demand GANGWAR: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS for stoppage of the NilachaJ Express at be pleased to state: Jaleswar railway station; and

(b) if so, the steps taken by the Gov- (a) whether there has been a constant emment in the matter? decline in income from the sale of tickets on various railway stations in Uttar Pradesh in October, 1990; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHAI JANESHWAR MfSHRA): (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) if so. the details of the income (b) Examined but not found feasible. 169 Wrltt8n An.9MHs PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 170

NIght landing Facilitle. at amphal (b) the tim. by which a direct trains from Airport a'ld Raeumptlon flight. from Oelhito Chappra via Varanasi-Ballia is likely Deihl to Impha1 to be introduced?

1951. SHRI MEIJINLUNG KAMSON: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI WiD the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) During the last pleased to state: three months, two trains viz. 240112402 New Delhi-Patns Shramjeevi Express and 24031 (a) the steps taken for providing night 2404 Kanpur-Varanasi Shramik Express tanding facilities at the Imphal airport have been introduced, and the run of one viz. (Man;pur); and 4017/4018 Unchahar Express has been extended from New Delhi to Ambala Cantt. (b) when the erstwhile direct flight from No route has been changed during the last Delhi to Imphal and vice versa of the Indian three months. Introduction of new trains and Airlines are proposed to be restored in the change of routes etc. is a continuous process, interest of the public? subject to operational feasibility. availability of resources and traffic justification. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI (b) There is no proposal to start an HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Sanction has additional train between Delhi and Chappra. been accorded for providing High Intensity Runway Lights, Taxiway and approach [English] lighting at Imphal airport. Resumption of Air Service to (b) Indian Airlines is operating a thrice Vlsakhapatnam weekly 8-737 service on DelhiIBagdogral Guwahatillmphal route since 16.12. 1990. 1953. DR. VISHWANATHAM: Will the Minister of CIVil AVIATION be pleased to [Translation] state:

New Train. on Northern and N.E. (a) whether the resumption of direct air RailWays services from Delhi to Visakhapatnam proposed to be taken up after the reintroduction 1952. SHRI JANARDAN TIWARI: of Airbus A-320; PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR: (b) if so, when;

Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be (c) if not, whether there is alternative pleased to state: proposal of touching Visakhapatnam by the present route Delhi-Raipur-Visakha- (a) the names of new trains introduced Bhubaneswar has baan considered in view in the North.rn and the North-Eastern Rail- of the demand and necessity; and ways during the last three months and proposed to be introduced in near future (d) whether it is proposed to be air alongwith their rout•• as also the names of linked with the Capital directly? those trains whose routes have bean changed or are proposed to be changed; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI 171 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 172

HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) to (d). As it will unemployed graduates and their groups; take several months before the fleet of A-320 aircraft gets reinducted in a substantial (b) the names of stations and parties to manner, Indian Airlines has no plan at present whom such book stalls were given, zone- to start a service between Delhi and wise; and Vishakapatnam. (c) the names of stations still lying Conversion of RaJkot-Veraval Lin. vacant in each zone?

1954. SHRI G.K. SHEKHADA: THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI SHRI PRAKASH KOKO JANESHWAR M1SHRA): (a) to (c). Infor- BRAHMBHATI: mation is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: LPG Connections In Jamnagar

(a) whether the conversion of Rajkot- 1956. SHRI CHANDRESH PATEL: Will Veraval M.g. Railway line into Broad Gauge the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- will be start.ed during first year of the Eighth CALS be pleased to state: Plan, if not, the reasons therefor; (a) the nu~ber of LPG connections (b) whether any request of the State provided during the last three years in Government in this regard is pending for Jamnagar district of Gujarat; consideration with the Union Government; and (b) the number of persons on waiting list for LPG connections there; (c) if so, the details thereof? (c) the steps taken to provide LPG THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE connections there; and MtNISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) No, Sir. The work could (d) the future plan for providing LPG not be sanctioned in the 1 st year of VIII Plan connection in each place in Jamnagar? deu to paucity of resources. THE MINISTER OF- PETROLEUM AND (b) No, Sir. CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA (c) Does not arise. PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) During the last three years (December. 1987 to November, Allotment of Book Stalls. 1990) about 9,700 new LPG connections h'ave been released in Jamnagar district of 1955. SHRI RAJ MANGAl MISHRA: Gujarat. Will the Ministerof RAILVJAYS be pleased to state: (b) As on November 30, 1990 there were about 10.900 persons on the waiting (a) the names of stations declared va- list for release of new LPG connections in cant for allotting of book-stalls in each zone Jamnagar district. at the time of issue of letter No. 73-TG-1I11 46119/1mp. dated the 5 December, 1973 for (c) and (d). New LPG connections are 173 Written AnSW91S PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 174 released all over the country in a phased (c) the outlets assigned to SC' s, srs. manner, under the annual programme for OBC's and minorities; enrollment of customers, subject to availability of LPG. Also, LPG facility is being (d) the outlets assigned to unemployed provided in a phased manner to citiesltowns gradl:lates, ex-servicemen, freedom fighters with a population of 20,000 and above which or oftler special groups; offer viable distributorships, subject to overall availability of the product. However, in view (e) the number of adopting outlets of the recent Gulf crisis, shortages in the planned for 1990-91 ; and product availability and backlogs, reJease of new LPG connections has been withheld till (f) the State-wise and category-wise the situation improves. break-up?

Allotment of PetroVDiesel Pumps THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- 1957. SHRI A.K.A. ABDUL SAMAD: MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND PRAKASH MAlVIYA): (a) to (d). The infor- CHEMICALS be pleased to state: matiOn is given in statement-I and II give below. No statistics are maintained aboutthe (a) the number of petrol and dje~el retail Retails Outlet (diesel/petrol) allotted to outlets in the country as on 1 April. 1990; dealers belonging to OBCs and minorities.

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Tran...ua.alon and DI8IributJon Lo.... provement schemes to strengthen and improve their transmissiot:l and distribution 1958. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: systems. System Improwment Schemes SHRI VASANT SATHE: have been takaft up tot implementation by various State Electricity BoardslElectricity WiUthe Minister of ENERGY be pleased Departments to reduce T&D losses and an to state: incentive scheme- has afso been introduced to motivate the Station Electricity Boards to (a) whether huge losses of energy are reduce the T&D losses. incurred in transmission and distribution; Decontrol 01 Molasses (b) if so, the extent of such losses incurred annuaNy; and 1959. SHAr BAlASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (c) the steps being taken to minimise AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: these losses and to conserve energy? (a) whether any decision has been taken THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by the Union Govemment regarding decontrol MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO of molasses; DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The Transmission and Distribution (T&D) losses in the Indian (b) if so. thQ details thereof and if not, power systems are about 22'»/0. the reas~s therefor; and

(c) Comprehensive guidelines have 'c) the steps/proposed to be taken to ben issued to the power Utilities for reducing protect the interest of molasses based alcohol the losses. These include. inter-alia. con- industries? ducting of the energy audit for identifying the system elements responsible for excessive THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND losses, installing capacitors to improve the CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- voltage profile. preparation of system im- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI SATYA provement schemes for strengthening and PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) No, Sir. improvement of their transmission and distribution systems, installing tamper proof (b) and (c). The present policy aims to meter boxes to check theft of energy and ensure availability of molasses to distilleries setting up vigilance squads to detect cases for produdion of industrial alcohol at rea- of theft of energy. The theft of energy has sonable prices. been made a cognizable offence under the provisions of Section 39 of Indian Electricity Production of Coal and Generation of Act, 1'910. An Incentive Scheme was intro- . Power duced by the Government of India with effect from the year 1987 for bringing about re- 1960. SHRI NIRMAl KANTI duction in the Transmission and Oistrihution CHATIERJEE: Will the Minister of ENERGY loss9s. be pleased to state:

Based on the guidelines, the power (a) the production of coal during last Utilities have set up vigilance squads for spot three years, year-wise ; and checking the premises of the H. T. consumers, and have been formulating system im- (b) the total power generated in the 191 Written AnsW91S JANUARY 8,1991 Written AnswelS 192 country during last three years, year-wise? Bengal?

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI KAlYAN SINGH KALVI): (a) The production JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) to (c). The of coal during the lat three years is as given proposals from the trade for regu lar clearance below:- of betel leaf traffic from West Bengal were examined in consultation with the repre- (million tonnes) sentatives of trade and State Government and adequate arrangements have since been Year Coal production made.

1987-88 179.75 Loss in Operation of Trains

1988-89 194.60 1962. SHRI ANIL SHASTRI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 1989-90 200.89 (a) whether it is a fact that most of the (b) The power generation in the country trains in all the zones are being run in losses; during 1987-88, 1988-89 and 1989-90 is as under:- (b) whether the Government propose to set up a high level committee to review the (Billion Units) working of various zones in this regard; and

Year Power generation (c) the names of the trains running in profit, zone-wise? 1987-88 201.894 THE MJNISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 1988·89 21.125 JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) No, Sir.

1989-90 245.141 (b) No, Sir.

(c) Train-wise data in not maintained. Transportation of Betel leaves Haldl. Petrochemical Project 1961. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to 1963. DR. DEB I PROSAD PAL: Will state: the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE MJ- CALS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government have received proposals for regular and easy bcoking (a) whether the Union Government of betel leaves by the MaiVExpress trains have granted any fund to the Government of from West Bengal; West Bengal for the Haldia Petrochemical Projed; (b) if so, the details thereof; and

(c) the action taken/proposed to be (b) if so, how much fund has -already taken to improve the movements of betel been released to the West 8engal Govern- leaves by railways specially from West ment for the purpose; and 193 Written Ans wers PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) Written AnSW9f$ 194

(c) whether the West Bengal Govern- ment have given any report to the Union Gas Turbine Unit-I March,1992 Government as to how the money has been utilised? Gas Turbine Unit-II May. 1992

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Gas Turbine Unit-III July, 1992 CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PArlLlA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Gas Turbine Unit-IV Sept.. '992 PRAKASH MAL VIVA): (a) to (c). Letter of intent for Haldia Petrochemical Complex has Steam Turbine Un;t-I March, 1993 been issued to West Bengal Industrial & Development Corporation Ltd. (WBIDe) who Steam Turbine Unit-II July, 1993 is accordingly to mobilise the requisite financial resotJrces for the project in accor- (c) Allocation of power from the project dance with the terms and conditions of the to the States in the Western Region would be letter of intent. The letter of intent does not made according to the prescribed formula envisage Central Government's financial applicable to the Central Power Stations. participation in the project. [English] [ Translation] Power to Release Foreign Exchange by Kawas Gas based Power Project ONGC

1964. SHAI C.D. GAMIT: Will the 1965. SHRIG.S. BASAVARAJ: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Minister 01 PETROLEUM AND CHEM ICALS be pleased to state: (a) the target date for the construction of gas based Thermal Power Station at Kawas (a) whether the Government have given (Surat Gujarat) by N.T.P.C.. and when it is powers to the Oil and Natural Gas Com- likely to be completed; mission for the release of foreign exchange for import of equipments and services re- (b) the installed capacity thereof and quired for its operational needs; the proposed date of its commissioning; and (b) if so, the total foreign exchange (c) the details of quantum of powerto be allowed; shared by Gujarat and other States through this power station? (c) the details of the components to be imported; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO (d) whether the World Bank cases are DHAKANE): (a) and (b). Based on the also likely to be cleared by the Oil and present status of construction the Kawas Naturat Gas Commission; and Gas-based Power Project comprising 4 x 106 MW Gas Turbine (GT) and 2 x 110 MW (8) if SO. the details thereof? Steam Turbine (Sn units is likely to be completed by July. 1993. The various units THEMINISTEROFPETROLEUMAND are likely to be commissioned as per the CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- schedule give below:- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA 195 Vftitten AnsW61S JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 196

PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). Govern- . (a) whether Indian Railway Act was ment have delegated power to ONGC for amended in 1989 to include parents of a release of foreign exchange to the extent of deceased minor passenger to enable the 75 per cent of third approved foreign EH(~ parents to qualify as dependants to get change budget for the financial year for compensation; import of equipment and services. (b) whether it has been decided that the (c) The effort involved in compiling the above benefit will be given to all legal heirs of details of all the items to be imported by the victims of Perumon Railway accident in ONGC may not be commensurate with the Quilon; and public purpose sought to be achieved. (c) if so, the details of action taken in the (d) and (e). Government have also matter? delegated powers to ONGC for release of foreign exchange in respect of World Bank THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI assisted Projects. However, all other cases JANESHWAR MISHRA): (a) Yes, Sir. where credit is to be availed has to be referred to Government for approval. (b) No, Sir.

News Item of I.D.P.L. (c) Does not arise.

1966. DR. ASIM BALA: Will the Minister Raservatlon facilities at V.T. and of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be Churchgate stations in Bombay pleased tp state: 1968. SHRIMATI JAYAWANTI (a) whether the attention of the Gov- NAVINCHANDRA MEHTA: Will the Minister ernment has been drawn to the news item on of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: IDPL appearing in the "The Sunday Mail" dated 25th November, 1990; (a) whether the existing number of reservation windows on V.T. and Churchagate (b) if so, whether Government have stations in Bombay for through trains are not verified the statements made therein; and sufficient to cope with the heavy rush of commuters there; (c) if so, the result achieved on each item? (b) if so, whether the Government propose to increase reservation facilities at THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF PETRO- these stations; and lEUM AND CHEMICALS AND DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COM- (c) if so, when? MUNICATION (SHRt JAI PRAKASH): (a) to (c). The requisite information is being col- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lected and will be laid on the Table of the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRt BHAKTA House. CHARAN DAS): (a) The existing numberof reservation counters at Bombay V.T. and Payment of Compensations Churchgate stations are.adequate to deal with the present level of traffic. 1967. SHRI A. CHARLES: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) No, Sir. 197 Written Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnswetS 198

(c) Does not arise. (b) if not, when it is proposed to betaken up; and [Translation) (c) the details regarding the estimated 011 Drilling In H.P. cost, target date for execution and completion of the work, etc.? , 969. PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHEMICALS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF RAilWAYS (SHAI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) No, Sir. (a) whether oil drilling work has been started in Changar-Talai in Himachal (b) There is no proposal to undertake Pradesh; survey for electrification of Kancheepuram- Chingleput Section. (b) if so, whether the results are en- couraging so far and how far success has (c) Does not arise. been achieved; and (Translation] (c) whether oil find there is likely to be available there for commercial purposes? Appointment of Chairman of D.V.G.

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND 1971. DR. SHAILENDRANATH CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- SHRIVASTV A: Will the Minister of ENERGY MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA be pleased to state: PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) No, Sir. (a) whether the post of Chairman of the (b) Does not arise. Damodar Valley Corporation and also the nominated members of Bihar and West (c) It is too early to say anything about Bengal are part time; the commercial exploitation of hydroCarbons which have not even been discovered. (b) whetherthe Government propose to make these part-time posts as full time [English] keeping in view the work load of the Damodar Valley Corporation; and Electrification of Railway Line Setween Kitncheepuram and Chlngleput (c) the steps being taken to fulfil the other vacant posts in the Corporations?

1970. SHRI KANCI PANNEER THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SEL VAM: WUlthe Minister of RAILWAYS be MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO pleased to state: OHAKANE): (a) to (c). The Damodar Valley Corporation Act, 1948 provided for a Chair- man and two other Members, who are ap- (8) whether the Govemment have un- pointed by the Central Government after dertaken any s~rvey work for the proposed consultation with the State Governments of electrification of railway track batween Bihar and West Bengal, accordingly. The Kancheepuram and Chingleput in the current other vacant posts, if any are filled up in plan; acx:ordance with the rules framed under DVe 199 Written An~welS JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 200

Act 1948 as per procedures laid down In that West Bengal. projed-wise; and regard by the Corporation. (b) the actual power generated by dif- [English] ferent projects during last year?

Power Generation Capacity of West THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bengal ~ MINISTRY OF ENERGY(SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The generation 1972. SHAI AJIT PANJA: Will the capacity of various power projects in West Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Bengal as on 31.3.1990 and the power generated by these stations during April- (a) total power generation capacity of March, 1990 is as under:-

Name of the Station Capacity Generation (MW) (MU)

1 2 3

Thermal

Pandel 530 2238

Santhaldih 480 838

Gas Turbines 100 45

Kolaghat 420 2126

(W.B.P. Dev. Corpn.)

DLP 390 617

Farakka (NTPC) 630 2815

CESC (Pvt.) 240 136

Titagarh 240 1409

Hydro

Small Stations 41.3 101

[ Translation] (a) the main features of the H.B.J. Pipe- line Project; ProJects on HBJ Pipeline (b) whether gas Power Plant and Fer- 1973. SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN: Will tilizer Plant in Bihar have adversely been the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- affected for want of completion of this project; CALS be pleased to state: and 201 Written Answers PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 202

(c) the steps taken or being taken by the CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- Government for completing H.B.J. Project? MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Main features of THE MIN ISTER OF PETROLEUM AND the project are as follows:-

Length of PIL. 1809

Compressor stations 4 Nos.

Cathodic Protectionl 58 RR Stations

Railway Crossings 37 Nos.

Forest Crossings 56 Nos.

River Crossings:

Major 22 Nos.

Minor 69 Nos.

Road Crossings 409 Nos.

Canal CroWsing 251 Nos.

Gas Carrying Capacity:

Present 18.2 MMSCMD

Future 33.4 MMSCMD

The pipeline passes through States of [English] Gujarat. Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan. Uttar Pradesh and Union T erroritory of Delhi. Latter of Intent of NOell

1974. SHRI VIDYADHAR GOKHALE: (b) No. Sir. HBJ Pipeline was not de- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND signed to supply gas to any power or fertilizer CHEMICALS be pleased to refer to the reply plant in Bihar. given on 10 April, 1990 to Unstarred Ques- t;on No. 4266 and state:

(c) HBJ Gas Pipefine Supply S /stem (a) whether the National Organic was completed as per approved schedule in Chemical Industries Ltd. (NOCll) was ex- July 1989. empted from Iocational standard conditions 203 Written Answers JANUARV 8,1991 Written Answers 204 while granting tetter of intent for expansion of (d) All relevant aspects are taken into its Naphtha Cracker Complex; abcount while considering environmental and other clearances for industrial projects.

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; Production and Investment In Coal Sector (c) whether Government have received any representation from voluntary 1975. SHRI HAMENDRA SINGH organisations against the expansion projects; BANERA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be and pleased to state:

(d) if so, the action taken thereon and (a) the year-wise investment in the reasons for delay in the matter. nationalised coal mines and other coal projects from the date of nationalisation of THE MIN ISTER OF PETROLEUM AND both coking and non-coking coal mines; CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA (b) the increase in coal production grade- PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). The letter wise at present in comparison to the period to of intent issued to on techno ec0- NOell, na1ionalisation of coal mines; and nomic considerations, for expansion of its Naphtha Cracker Complex provides for ex- (c) the present policy of coal distribution emption from standard locational conditions. to the industry? However, safeguards have been built in by stipulating in the LOI that the company shall THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI obtain site clearance from the competent KALYAN SINGH KALVI): (a) details of in- State authority ; also that it will obtain envi- vestment made in coal profects since ronmental and pollution clearance from the nationalisation of coking coal mines in 1972 Ministry of Environment & Forests, Gov- and other mines in 1973 are given in the ernment of India and that no construction statement below. activity relating to the proposed expansion shall 'be undertaken by the company until (b) Production of coking and non-coking such an environmental clearance is obtained coal in the nationalised coal mines during by it. 1989-90 as compared to the production at the time of nationalisation are given below: (c) Yes, Sir.

(in mil/ion tonnes)

1972-73 1989-90 Increase

Coking 13.37 40.04- 26.67

Non-coking 56.61 138.58 81.97

Total 69.98 178.62 108.64

·including non-metallurgical grade coking 'coal 205 Written AnSwelS PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 206

(c) The present policy of coal distribu- Small Consumers are given the tion to the industries is as under:- facility to draw their Assessedl Sponsored requirement from (i) Coking Coal: MetaHurgical Cok- near by Stocky-ards of elL. ing Coal comes under the purview of Colliery Control Order. Coal supplies by road are also The recommendation for supplies arranged to Indu!I;trial Consum- of Metallurgical Coking Coal is ers against shortfall in rail made by the Coal Controller. movement/distress requirement from Collieries or from ell's (ii) Non-coking Coal: Industrial Stocky-ards. Consumers are supplied coal by rail by the coal co's. as per the For the benefit of SmalllNon- sponsorships of the appropriate Sponsored/Inadequately Spon- Sponsoring Authorities within the sored Consumers. coal supplies overall wagon ceiling limit fixed are arranged upto 1000 MTs at a by Rlys. in consultation with their time from sources specified. un- Sponsoring Authorities and as der 'Liberalised Distribution per the linkages established by Scheme' of ell on 'First-come- Cil. fia-st-serve basis'.

Industrial Consumers located High inventory -Slow moving nearer the coalfields areas are stocks of Washery products/Coal supplied coal by road against are also offered to willing Con- their Sponsorships/Demand as- sumers/Customers under Bulk sessment and established link- Sale Scheme of Coal India lim- ages. ited.

STATEMENT

Year Rupees in crores

1 2

(a) Investment in coal mining projects:

1973-74 166.95

1974-75 82.80

1975-76 149.73

1976-77 200.46

1977-78 178.93

1978-79 198.11

1979-80 261.90 207 Written Answers JANUARY 8. 1991 Written Answers 208

Year Rupees in crares

1 2

1980-81 345.70

1981-82 572.80

1982-83 712.94

1983-84 839.43

1984-85 787.67

1985-86 842.73

1986-87 980.41

1987-88 1005.55

1988-89 1282.81

1989-90 1419.15

Total upto 1989-90 10028.07

(b) Investment in Non-mining Coal Projects'

* Upto 1984-85 665.49

1985-86 112.39

1986-87 142.23

1987-88 142.28

1988-89 243.25

1989-90 190.90

Total upto 1989-90 1496.54

*Note: Break up of year-wise investment in non-coaf mining projeds during the years 1973-74 to 1984-85, is reportedly not available. 209 Written Answ81S PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 210

Import of Wheel Sets lathes imported components are used; if so, the percentage of the total value of such 1976. SHRI RATILAL KALIDAS components; and VERMA: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (d) the steps being taken to avoid out- (a) the total number and value of wheel- flow of foreign exchange on this account? lathes for which contrads have been placed by the Railways during the last three years; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAI BHAKTA (b) the break up to between Indian and CHARAN DAS): (a) The total number of Foreign supplies in terms of numbers as well whgellathes purchased by Indian Railways as value; since 1979 is 120. The value of these wheel lathes is Rs. 11,831.67Iakhs. The year-wise (c) whether in Indian supplied wheel- figures for the last 3 years are as under:-

Year No. Value

(Rs. in lakhs)

1988 5 599.57

1989 13 1532.12

1990 20 4196.54

(b) Out os 38 Nos. of wheel lathes, 2 tion with Mis. Hegenscheidt, Germany are Nos. have been purchased from MIs. constantly making efforts to increase the Hegenscheidt, West Germany and the rest indigenous content. have been ordered on MIs. Heavy Engineer- ing Corporation, Ranchi. The Value of pur- Additional Coaches for Slkklm chase from the foreign supplier is Rs. 264.9 Jakhs out of total purchase of Rs. 6328.63 1977. SHRI NANDU THAPA: Will the lakhs. Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state:

(c) The wheel lathes supplied by Indian (a) whether there is a demand from the manufacturers have some imported oompo- State of Sikkim for one coach each in North nents. As per latest order dt. 31.8.90, the Eastern Express and Tinsukhia Mail from percentage of imported components works N.J.P (Siliguri) to New Delhi and vice-versa out to 27.62% as compared to 52.870/0 in for that and the adjoining areas; and 1989. (b) if so, the details of action being taken (d) Tha only indigenous manufacturer, thereon? viz MIs. Heavy Engineering Corporation who are making these wheel lathes in coll~bora- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 211 Written AnswetS JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 212

MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA (b) whether the Government have re- CHARAN D~): (a) Yes, Sir. ceived any report of the team appointed for the purpose; and (b) Examined but not found feasible on account of operational difficulties and re- (c) when the construdion work is pro- source constraints. posed to be completed?

Performance of Container CorpOration THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of india MINISTRYOFENERGY(SHRIBABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) to (c). The Eighth Plan to 1978. SHAI KADAMBUR M.A. consider incremental generation capacities JANARDHANAN: Will the Minister of RAIL- is yet to be finalised. The team has not WAYS be pleased to state: suggested location of a thermal power plant in Malabar, Kerala to yield benefits in the (a) whether the Container Corporation Eighth Plan period either in the state or of India is functioning successfully; central sector.

(b) if so, the target set for handling Kudachi-Ralchur Railway Line (SeR) containers per annum in terms of quantum of containers handled during last one year by 1980.SHRIS.T.PATIL:WilltheMinister different depots of the Corporation at major of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ports; and (a) whether a survey was conducted for (c) if not, the reasons therefor and the laying a railway line from Kudachi to Raichur corrective measures proposed to be taken in on South Central Railway, long back; this regard? (b) if so, the position of the proposed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE project as on date; and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) when it will be taken up for implementation? (b) and (c). During the year 1989-90 a total of 52.405 containers were handled by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE different depots. The target set for the year MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA 1990-91 is 65,800 containers. CHARAN DAS): (a) No, Sir.

Setting up of a Thermal Plant In (b) and (c). Do not arise. Malabar, Kerala [ Translation]

1979. SHRI K. MURALEEDHARAN: Issue of Debentures for Conversion of Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Lines In Maharashtra state: 1981.SHRIPUNDLIKHARIDANWAR: (a) whether the Government have Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to finalised the location of a Thermal Power state: Plant proposed to be set up in Malabar, Kerala; (a) whether any fresh proposal from the 213 Written Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

Govemment of Maharashtra has been re- (a) whether trade margins and mark ups ceived by his Ministry for issuing debentures have been increase under the Drugs (P rices to convert the narrow gauge rail lines into Control) Order, 1987; broad gauge in Marathwada region; (b) if so, the reason therefor; and (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) what was the percantage increase in (c) the reaction of Government thereto? trade margins and marks up and who rec w ommended these increases? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHARAN DAS): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. A CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- proposal was received from the Chief Min~ MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt SATYA ister of Maharashtra for setting up a Corpo- PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. ration on the lines of Konkan Railway Cor- poration for the development of the following (b) and (c). The increase in the MAPE Railway network in the Marathwada region under Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1987 is of Maharashtra. based on the measures announced by the Government in 1986. Since there has been 1. Extension of Manmad- an increase in the MAPE under Drugs (Prices Aurangabad broad gauge section Control) Order, 1987, its benefit has also upto Parli-Vaijnath and Adilabad. been passed on to the trade by increasing the trade margin. The increase in the trade 2. Conversion of Latur-Barsi- margin is based on the recommendations Pandharpur-Miraj Narrow Gauge made by the Committee constituted by the section into broad gauge and Department of Chemicals and Petro- extending it upto Latur Road and chemicals for the purpose. Laying a new Railway line joining Osmanabad with this line. The MAPE under Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1987 has been increased from the 3. Construction of a new broad existing level of 40% and 55% to 75% and gauge line from Ahmednagar to 100% in resped of Category I and II formu- Parli-Vaijnath via Bir. lations respectively. Similarly the trade margin has been increased to the level of 16% for However the surveys carried out for the controlled drugs. above projects indicate that these projects would not be financially remunerative and [ Translation] hence setting up of a Corporation is not feasible. Rural Electrification In Madhya Pradesh

[English] 1983. SHRI RESHAM LAL JANGDE: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Increase in Mark up of Med Icines state:

1982. SHRI KALPANTH SONKAR: Will (a) the number of villages electrified in the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- Madhya Pradesh from January to December CALS be pleased to state: 1990; and 215 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 216

(b) the number electrified and mat ion, 2855 villages were electrified in unelectrified villages in Raipur Bilaspur and Madhya Pradesh during January to Novem- Raigarh districts during this period; and ber, 1990.

(b) The number of electrified and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE. unelectrified villages in Raipur, Bllaspur and MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIBABANRAO Raigarh districts during this period is as DHAKANE): (a) As per the available infor- under:- 217 Writtsn Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 218

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SC/ST Officials In Railways Boardl [English) Northern Railway Criteria for Allotment of LPG Agency and Petrol Pumps 1984. SHRI GOPAL PACHERWAL: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to 1985. SHRI C.M. NEGI : Will the Min- state: ister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state:

(a) the number of Group lA' and Group (a) the procedure for allotting LPG 'B' officers at present working in the office of agency and petrol pumps; Northern Railway and Railway Board, separately; (b) the numberof such sanctions issued during last two years. till December, 1990; (b) the number of officers belonging to scheduled caste and scheduled tribe among (c) the number of such agencies issued them, category-wise; and during the aforesaid period for Delhi, Dehradun, Pauri Garwal, Chemoli and Tehri (c) the number of railway officers and Garwal; and employees at present working in other Min- istries and public undertakings on deputation (d) whether Government give some and the number of those belonging to preference to the local people in the sanction scheduled caste and scheduled tribe, out of of these agencies? them? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA CHARAN DAS): Information compiled as on PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Under the exist- 01.08.90 is as under: ing guidelines. the oil companies invite applications for award of LPG distributorships/ (a) Railway Board: Group 'A'-287. Group Retail Outlet (PetrollDiesel) dealerships and '8'-307. Kerosene/LDO dealerships by advertising in prominent newspapers. Applications received in response to such advertisements Northern Railway: Group 'A' -807, Group are considered on merits by the concerned 18'-666. Oil Selection Board which is an independent body headed by a retired High Court ~odge. Allotment of dealerships/distributorships is (b) Railway Board: Group 'A'-SC:26, made by the oil companies on the recom- ST:7. Group 'S'-SC:26, ST:4. mendations of the Oil Selection Board.

Norther Railway: Group 'A'-SC:114, (b) During the period January 1980 to , ST:17. Group '8'-SC:S9, ST:14. December 1990 315 LPG distributorships and 658 Retail Outlet (Petrol/diesel) dealerships have been allotted. (c) Officers: Total: 178, SC: 14, ST:3.

Employees: Total:236, SC:16, ST:1. (c) The information is as follows:- 221 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 222

Location LPG distributorship Retail Outlst dealership

1 3

Delhi 16 ·5

Dehradun 2

Pagri Garhwa'·

Chamoli*

Tehri Garhwal* 2

·LPG Marketing has been entrusted to the Garhwal Mandai Vikas Nigam.

(d) Yes, Sir. (a) whether there is a great demand for increasing the number of bogies in the l Translation] Karnataka Express running between New Delhi and Bangalore; and Express Train on Gorakhpur-Barellly Route (b) if so, the action taken in this regard?

1986. SHRI RUDRA SEN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHAUDHARY: Will the Minister of RAIL- MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAI BHAKTA WA YS be pleased to state: CHARAN DAS): (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether Government propose to (b) Examined but not found feasible. introduce an Express train on Gorakhpur- Gonda-Bahraich-Bareilly meter gauge line; Development of Kaklnada Station and 1988. SHRI M.M. PALLAM RAJU: Will (b) if so, when? the Min!ster of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA (a) Whether there hasbes" aschemeto CHARAN DAS): (a) No, Sir. develop the Kakinada station and restructure the railway line to enable long distance trains (b) Does not arise. from Madras to Hawrah pass through that station directly; and [English] (b) if so, when the scheme is likely to be Increase In Bogies In Karnataka implemented keeping in view that Kakinada Express is a district headquarter and its sea port is also devetoplng fast? 1987. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO : Wilt the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 223 Written AnswelS JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 224

MtNISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA train between Puri and Tirupati and to extend CHARAN DAS): (a) No. Sir. Hirakhand Express to Rourkela are under a'ctive consideration. The other proposals (b) Does not arise. have not been found feasible of implementation. Train services in Orissa [ Translation] 1989. SHAJ LOKANATH CHOUDHARY: Will the Ministerof RAILWAYS be pleased to Power Requirement in Rajasthan state: 1990. SHRI KAILASH MEGHWAL: (a) whether Government have received PROF. RASASINGH RAWAT: a request from the Orissa Government to introduce new train services, extension of Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased trains and change of train times in addition to to state: the existing services; (a) the total requirement of power at (b) if so, the details thereof; and present in Rajasthan and the quantum of electricity being produced in Rajasthan, share (c) the steps taken thereon? of Rajasthan from central pool and power received from other sources to meet this THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE requirement; and MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) the steps taken or proposed to be taken to meet the shortage of electricity? (b) The suggestions mainly pertain to extension of runs of some trains. restoration THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of a couple of services discontinued. and MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO introduction of a Puri-Drug service via DHAKANE): (a) The total energy requirement Viz;anagaram. in Rajasthan during November, 1990 was 10200 lakh units (LUs) against which the availability from all sources was 10180.25 (c) The proPQsals to introduce a weekly lakh units as detailed below:-

(Fgrs. in LU)

(i) Own generation 3308.69

(ii) Import from Central Sectorl jointly owned projects 6404.17

(iii) Import from other States 467.39

(b) The measures being taken to im- projects. improving the performance of ex~ prove the availability of power include expe- isting power stations, reducing transmission diting commissioning of new generation ca- and distribution losses, implementation of pacity, implementation of short gestation demand management and energy conser- 225 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 226 vaticn measures and arranging transfer of However, on consideration of development energy from surplus to deficit areas. of backward areas, the Railway has now again been asked to resurvey/update the [Eng/ish] proposal.

Khurda Road·Bolanglr Railway Lin. Conversion of Manmad-Adllabad Line

1991. SHRI SIVAJI PATNAIK: Will the 1992. DR. VENKATESH KABDE: Will Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (a) whether any survey has been conducted to construct a new railway line from (a) the progress made so far in con- Khurda Road to Bolangir on the South version of Mar)mad-Adilabad railway line Eastern Railway; into board Cj<1uge;

(b) if so, the estimated cost thereof; and (b) the funds allocated for this project (c) the decision taken by Government in for 1990-91 and the quantum utilised so far; regard to this survey? and

(c) the time by which this project is likely THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to be completed? MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA (b) As. 209 crores (at 1985-86 price CHARAN DAS): (a) and (b). The entire level). conversion work is covered in two projects. The details of the projects, progress made, (c) As the project was found funds allotted during 1990·91 and funds unremunerative, it could not be taken up. utilised so far are ~s under: 227 WriNen Answ91'$ JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 228

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(c) Completion will depend upon alloca· [English] tions made for these projects in the coming years. Discovery of 011 Reserves

( Translation] 1994. SHAI YADVENDRA DATI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- Cancellation of Trains Passing Through CALS be pleased to state: Uttar Pradesh (a) whether the Oil India Limited has 1993. SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: discovered shale formation in the North- SHRI RAGHAVJI: East region that could yield billions of tonnes SHRI PUNDLIK HARt of recoverable oil; DANWE: (b) if so, whether Government have Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be made any assessment of the shale oil po- ploased to state: tential in North-East region of the country; and (a) the number of trains passing through Uttar Pradesh cancelled from 20 October to (c) if so, the details thereof? 5 November, 1990; THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND (b) the reasons for their cancellation in CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- each case; MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (c). Fairly thick (c) whether some trains have been and extensive shales are known from the stopped by the special police during this Barail coalshale (Oilgocene) and period without the written orders, and if so, Disangshale (Eocene) sequences that oc- the reasons therefor; cupy a very large part of the Assam Arakan Sedimentary Basin of Northeastern India. (d) whether there is any provision for According to preliminary investigations car- the suspension and cancellation of trains; ried out by Oil India Limited (OIL) some of and these shales are capable of yielding crude oil. Based on these preliminary studies OIL (e) if so, the details thereof and if not, the have made an estimate of extractable oil reasons thereof? which is large. However detailed studies are needed to identify oil shales to determine THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE extractable oil as also to ascertain technical MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA feasibility and QConomic viability of such CHARAN DAS): (a) 84. extradion in the thickly forested and fraqile environment where these shales occur. (b) To meet with exigencies of law and order situation in the State. [ Trans/ation]

(c) No, Sir. Introduction of New Trains

(d) and (9). Passenger services can be 1995. PROF. YADU NATH PANDEY: cancelled, terminated short of destination Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to etc. to meet exigencies of any situation. state: 231 Written AnSW91S JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answ91S 232

(a) the number of new trains started in 5. Dadar-Muzaffarpur. between January to December, 1990 and the routes thereof; 6. Howrah-Gorakhpur.

(b) whether Government have revised 7. Gonda-Gorakhpur. the income and expenditure incurred on the oporation of these new trains during this 8. Katihar Siliguri. period; 9. Dhanbad-Chopan. (c) if so, the details thereof; and 10. Jasidih-Baidyanathdham. (d) the number of new trains likely to be introduced in the remaining months of the 11. Rampurhat-Sahibganj. 1990-91 and the details thereof? 12. Silchar -Jiribum. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA 13. Chitradurg-Challekere. CHARAN DAS): (a) During the period January to December, 1990,52 trains were 14. Guntur-Macherla. (Two pairs) started. A statement giving the routes on which these trains were introduced is given 15. Guntur-Sattanappale. (Two pairs) below. 16. Macherla-Nadlkudi. (b) No, Sir. 17. Hazrat Nizamuddin-Miraj-Vasco- (c) Does not arise. de-Gama. (1 pair BG & 1 pair MG)

(d) New trains are by and large. intro- 18. Bilaspur-Gevra Road. duced at the time of drawing up of new time tables taking into account passenger needs, 19. New Delhi-Patna. availability of physical resources and operational feasibility. 20. Kanpur-Varansi.

STATEMENT 21. Gandhidham-New Bhuj-Naliya.

22. Gorakhpur-AUahabad. Routes on which new trains were introduced between January to December, 23. Howrah-Bokaro Steel City. 1990 Setting up of Diesel Outlets at every 1. Jammu Tawi-Mangalorel seven Kilometers Tiruchchirapalli.

2. Surat-Varansi. 1996. SHRI BALESHWAR YADAV: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 3. Haria-Varanasi. CHEMICALS be pleased to state:

4. Jammu Tawi-Guwahati. (a) whether the Government are oon- 233 Written Answers PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 234 templating to set up diesel outlets at every THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE seven kilometers; MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) to (c). A proposal was (b) if so, the names ofthe States where received for setting up a 2x30 MW solar such outlets are proposed to be set up and thermal power station at Chakai at a cost of when: and over Rs. 207 crores. The proposal can be considered for implementation after the (e) if n01, the manner in which diesel is meteorological data required has been col- proposed to be made available to the farmers lected, the technology has been proved in easily? Indian conditions, and all necessary in-puts have been tied up. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- Late Running of Trains MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MAlVIYA): (a) to (c). Retail 1998. PROF. MAHADEO Outlets (Petrol/diesel) are set up in line with SHIWANKAR:WilltheMinisterofRAllWAYS the volume distance norms stipulated for the be pleased to state: purpose, on the basis of surveys conducted by the Oil Companies. The Oil Industry is (a) the details regarding late departure setting up low cost Retail outlets in rurall and late arrival of traIns during this year; remote areas to make High Speed Diesel available to the farmers easily. (b) whether the Government have issued any fresh directives for monitoring the Solar Energy Production Centre running of trains on time and whether any inquiry and inspection is being carried out to 1997. SHRI JANAROAN YADAV: Will see that these directives are being followed: the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: and

(a) whether the Government have ac- (c) whether fresh arrangements are corded approval to Solar Energy Production being made likewise to avoid the accidents Centre of 30 kilowatt capacity in the Chakai and to conduct an inquiry thereof? division of Munger district in Bihar; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the time by which the Solar MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA Energy is likely to be produced; and CHARAN DAS): (a) The punduality perior- mance during 1st and 2nd half of 1990 was as (c) if not, the reasons therefor? under:

1st half of 1990 2nd half of 1990

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Suburban 95.30/0 95.20/0 235 Written AnSW91S JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 236

(b) Monitoring is a continuous process (a) whether there is any proposal of and it includes observance of instructions. electrification of trains on the Northern Rail- way between Delhi and Amritsar durin, the (c) Yes, Sir. Eighth Plan; and

[English] (b) if so, the details thereof?

Underground storage system for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Natural Gas In Eastern Sector MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) Ves, Sir. Electrification 1999. SHRI DHARMANNA of Delhi-Ambala-Ludhiana section alone is MONDAYY A SADUL: Will the Minister of under consideration. PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) The work covers electrification of 314 RKMS at an estimated cost of Rs. 136.96 (a) whether the ONGC proposes an crores. underground storage system for natural gas in Eastern parts of the country in near future; Non-Servicing of Food In Flights

(b) if so, details therefor; 2001. SHRI BABUBHAI MEGHJl SHAH: Will the Ministarof CIVIL AVIATION (c) the actual storage capacity of the be pleased to state: projects; and (a) whether he is aware of non-serving (d) the time by which the projects are to of meals, break-fasts or beverages in be completed? Vayudoot flights;

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND (b) if so, whether the Vayudoot has CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- reduced the air fares for non-serving of food MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA beverages in their flights; and PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Although ONGC have conceptulised such a storage system. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? no project proposal has been subm itted to Government tor approval nor has any such THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE project been approved by ONGC under its MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI own delegated Powers. In view of this such HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. a storage system in the Eastern part of the (b) No, Sir. country is not expected to come up in the (c) Even otherwise. Vayudoot's fare near future. structure does not cover the cost of its operations, which is high because of the short (b) to (d). Do not arise. haul nature of its route network.

Electrification of Trains on Northern Air India Pilot Refused to Fly Aircraft Railway (AI 130)

2000. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA: 2002. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to MURTHY: Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIA- state: TION be pleased to state: 237 Written AnswelS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 238

(a) whether co-pilot of a Air India Jumbo formulate some new policy in order to give refused recently to fly the aircraft (AI 130) encouragement to the young unemployed from Heathrow to Bombay after all the pas- graduates; and sengers have bearded the aircraft; (d) if so, the details thereof? (b) if so. the reasons thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the action taken by the Air India to MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA avoid the recurrence of such incidents in CHARAN DAS): (a) Extent policy for future? awarding catering/vending and bookstall contracts provides for preference to unem- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ployed graduates atongwith other categories. MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. The (b) 18 bookstall contracts in Delhi Di- co-pilot of AI-130 of 28.10.90 refused to fly vision and one vending and 3 bookstall the aircraft from Heathrow to Delhi. contracts in Moradabad Division have been awarded. (b) The co-pilot refused to fly because according to him he would have exceeded (c) Not yet. the Flight duty Time Limitation contained in the Indian Pilots' Guild's agreement with Air (d) Does not arise. India. The commander of the flight was willing to fly. This caused a loss of over Rs. 8 fakhs [English] in foreign exchange to Air India. International Balloon Mela (c) Air India has reported this incident to DGCA. The DGCA IS taking appropriate 2004. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Will action under Aircraft Rules, 1937. the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: [ Translation] (a) whether Government are aware of Allotment of Contracts of Stalls to the highly successful Six International Bal- Unemployed Graduates loon Mela of 1990 organised in 10 cities of India (Clarity 2.12.1990); and 2003. SHRI RAM LAL RAHI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) whether the Government have any plans to encourage Ballooning in India and if (a) whether his Ministry give·priority to so, the details of the work-plan? the young unemployed graduates in giving contracts of catering vending and book-stalls under self-employment policy; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVil AVIATION (SHRI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the number of contractors under the said category in Delhi and Moradabad divisions; (b) No. Sir. Such activities would need to be supported primarily from private re- (c) whether the Government propl)se to sources. 239 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written AnswelS 240

011 Production from cauvery Basin Modernisation of Airports

2005. SHRI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI: 2006. SHRIGOPINATHGAJAPATHI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be CHEMICALS be pleased to state: pleased to state:

(a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas (a) whether the Government had any Commission has submitted a feasibility re- proposal to modernise the air traffic services port for oil production from Cauvery offshore; system and facilities at various airports in the country; (b) if so, when and the cost of the project; (b) if so, the amount earmarked and spent on this programme during the current (c) whetherthe project has bean cleared year on each Airport; and by the Government; and (c) the derails of facilities provided? (d) if so, the steps taken by the ONGC on oil drilling? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) The CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- modernisation & upgradation various facili- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA ties including Air Traffic Control facilities at PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) No, Sir. airports is a continuous process.

(b) to (d). Does not arise. (b) and (c). A statement is given below. 241 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 242

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New Coal basad Technology (c) the number of persons travelling in th at aircraft; 2007. SHRt B. DEVARAJAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (d) whether there was any casualty;

(a) whether energy experts have sug- (e) the responsibilities fixed on the staff; gested a new coal based technology named and the Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC)-an efficient and environmentally (f) the steps taken to avoid such oc- safer alternative for power generation; and currences in future?

(b) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE HARMOHAN DHAWAN) : (a) to (f). On MINISTRYOF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO 17.9.1990, a 80eing-737 aircraft VT-EAJ DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The Expert group while operating flight IC-408 with 64 pas- constituted for evaluating the various coal sengers on Board took off from Varanasi but gasification processes and to identity tech- had to overfly Khajuraho and Agra due to nology suitable for high ash Indian coals has snag in the hydraulic system. There was no been actively engaged in evaluating the casualty or injury to any passenger. techno-economics of the three generically different coal gasification processes involved The inCIdent was investIgated by the in the Integrated Coal Gasification Compined Permanent Investigation Board of Indian Cycle (IGCC). technology for power gen- Airlines and was referred to the Boeing Co. eration. Considering the merits and demerits The Boeing Co. have considered this failure of the three coal gasification processes as an isolated case and have not made any presently available, Fluidised and Moving recommendation in this regard. The Indian Bed Gasification process technologies have Airlines has therefore, concluded that no been found suitable for high ash Indian Coals further action was necessary in the matter. and tor power generation through IGCC system. Pending Power Project of West Bengal

Flight No. 408 from Varanasl to 2009. SHRI SANATKUMAR MANDAL: Khajuraho Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2008. SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA: Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased (a) the particulars of the West Bengal to state: power projects pending with the Union Government for clearance;

(a) whether an Indian Airlines Boeing VTEAJ Flight No. 408 took off from Varansi (b) the steps being taken for early for Khajuraho on 17 September, 1990 could clearance of these power projects; and not land there;

(c) what assistance thQ Union Govern- (b) if so, the reason therefor; ment propose to give to the West Bengal 249 Written AnSWSfS PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 250

Government to supply power from the Cen- MIN ISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO , tral grid? DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The present status of the techno-eoonomic appraisal of power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE schemes of West Bengal is given befow:- 251 Written An$W6rs JANUARY 8,1991 Written AnswelS 252

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(c) West Bengal has been allocated the F arakka STPS and Chukha Hydro-electric following shares from the Central sector station in Bhutan.

Farakka STPS (630 MW) 216 MW (34.20/0)

Chukha HES (270 MW) 79 MW (29.10/0)

In additIOn, West Bengal is provided as- (b) the set-ups closed abroad and how sistance out of the 15% unallocated output does the expenditure saved thus as com- from Farakka STPS and 50/0 unallocated pared with that on the assignment of work to output from Chukha HES depending upon foreign agencies and appointment of Gen- the relative percentage shortages in the con- eral Sales Agents (GSAs); and stituents of the Eastern Region from time to time. (c) the profit and loss of the Air India during the current year, and how much During the period from April to Novem- portion thereof is being spent on GuH ber, 1990, as against the total entitlement of evacuees aftertaking into consideration the 902 MU from the above power station the amount paid by the union Government on actual drawal by West Bengal was 799MU. this accounts?

Profit/Loss in Air India and expenditure THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE on Image Making MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRt HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Total expen- 2010. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAl: diture incurred in foreign exchange on im· Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be age making is Rs. 2.03 crores, which in- pleased to state: dudes consultancy fee, travelling expenses, import of logo etc. It is difficult to relate it to traffic revenue. (a) the total expenditure incurred by the Air India on Image making through LANDOUR (b) Three offices of Air India were ASSOCIATES of USA in terms of foreign closed in the recent past Details of the exchange and its ultimate utility in boosting offices closed, date of closure and the es- Air India's traffic earnings;' timated savings are given beJow:-

Offices Closed Date of Closure Estimated Savings

Yokohama 31.10.89 As.15lakhslannum

Suva 01.01.89 As. 12 lakhslannum

Kobe 01.01.91 Rs. 10 lakhslannum

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Gulf evacuation on the basis of costs in- aging Directors of some of these Corpora- curred and would not IOS8 on this account. tions; Financial impact will come from loss of traf· fic, escalating oil prices and aircraft/Pas- (e) whether it is proposed to restructure senger insurance. the set-up of some of these Corporations; and Appointment of Chairman and Manag- Ing Director In Public Undertaking (f) if SO, the salient features thereof?

2011. SHRISANATKUMARMANDAL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRt BABANRAO state: DHAKANE) : (a) and (b). the appointments to the posts of Chairman and Managing (a) whether any guidelines have been Directors of the various Corporations under laid down for appointment of the Chairmen the Ministry of Energy are made by the and Managing Directors of the various Cor- Government on the recommendations of the porations under his Ministry for both technical Public Enterprises Selection Board. and non-technical personnel; (c) The details are given in the statement (b) if so. the details thereof; given below.

(c) the manner in which the selection of (d) Appointments to the posts of the present incumbents was made. their Chairmen and Managing Directors of the tenure and salary and aUowances and perks; Public Sector Corporations were made taking into accountthe specific job requirements of the office and the suitability of the candi- (d) the consideration which weighed dates. with the Government in appointing non- technical personnel as Chairmen and Man- (e) and (f). No, Sir. 259 Writtsn Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written AnswsfS 260

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Starting of Flights to China Supply of coal from Singareni Collieries Co. Ltd. (SCCl) have been low this year due to 2012. SHRISANATKUMARMANOAL: strikes and disturbed law and order situation. - Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be However, the despatches have started im- pleased to state: proving from November '90 onwards. In order to deal with the situation arising from (a) whether India proposes to start lower despatches of coal from Singarsni flights to China; Collieries Co. Ltd. mines, Western Coalfields Ltd. and South Eastern Coalfields Ltd. were (b) if so. whether its base will be Calcutta called upon to augment despatches from and the stations in China which will be their collieries to the affected units. The total linked; and despatches of coal from units. The total despatches of coal from Coal India Limited (c) the route and periodicity of tho for the period April-November '90 have been proposed flights? 10.7 million tonnes.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Yatrl Niwas at Bombay MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI HARMOHAN OHAWAN): (a) to (c). There is 2014. SHRI YASHWANTRAO PATll: no immediate plan to start direct flights be- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to tween India and China. However, this is a state: mafier which will conlinuously engage the attention of the Government. (a) whether it is proposed to open Rail Yatri Niwas in Bombay; Shortfall supply of coal to different Industrial Units In South India (b) if so, the details thereof; and

2013. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA (c) if not, the reasons therefor? MURTHY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA (a) whether there was a shortfall in the CHARAN DAS): (a) to (c). Setting up of a supply of coal 10 different industrial units in Rail Yatri Niwas at Bombay is not considered South India from the Singareni Coal Company feasible at present due to resource oon- Ltd. during the first eight months of the straints. current years; Disposal of Complaints by IOC, (b) if so, the reasons therefor and how Lucknow the shortfall was met; and 2015. SHRIM.V.CHANDRASHEKARA (c) whether the Department of Coal MURTHY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM asked the Coal India Ltd. to despatch coal AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: immediately to South Indian Units facing crisis and if so, the total stock despatched by (a) whether it is a fact that the rate of the Coal India Ltd. in this regards? disposal of complaints received by the Ind ian Oil Corporation (IOC), Consumer Service THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Cell, Lucknow, from the consumers of Indian KALYAN SINGH KALVI): (a)to (c). Yes, Sir. domestic LPG has been extremely low; 269 Written Answ91S PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 270

(b) whether the number of complaints THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND has risen very high during the past two CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- months; MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI SATYA (c) if so, the details thereof; and PRAKASHMALVIYA):(a)to(d). The number of complaints received by the Consumer (d) the efforts to made to deal with each Service Cell of 10C, Lucknow, during the last of them? five months is as under;

Month No. of complaints

August, 1990 44

September, 1990 43

October, 1990 54

November. 1990 54

December, 1990 58

Enquiries are conducted on all com- CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PAR- plaints received by the Oil Companies and LIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI SATYA appropriate action taken, in cases where the PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) The consumption charges are established. Out at the above of petrol in India during 1987-88, 1988-89 complaints actions have been taken, against and 1989-90 has been 2.81 MMT, 3.05 MMT 47 established cases as per provisions of the and 3.49 MMT respectively. During 1987- Marketing Discipline Guidelines and Dis- 88, 16,000 metrictonnes petrol was imported tributorships agreement. for Rs. 3.57 crores from Kuwait. No import of petrol has been made during 1988-89 and Import of Petrol from Arab Countries 1989-90.

2016. PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: (b) The consumption of petrol during Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND April-November, 1990 has shown an increase CHEMICALS be pleased to state: of 4.30/0 over the same period last year. During the current year, it is expected that (a) the requirement and the total quan- the demand of petrol will be met from indig- tity and value of petrol being imported from enous production in the refineries. No import Arabian countries during each of th£' past of petrol is planned during the current year. three years; and Impact of Computerised Reservation (b) whether the requirement of petrol is system likely to boost up during the current year; if so, the steps Government propose to take to cope with this situation? 2017. SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE:WilltheMinisterofRAILWAYS THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND be pleased to state: 271 Written AnSW915 JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 272

(a) whether any study on socio-eco- by the various Railways on the computer- nomic impact of the computerised Railway Ised Reservation system? Reservation system has been undertaken; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA (b) if so, its main observationsJfindings CHARAN DAS): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. De- and the measures taken to further improve it partment of Electronics has commissioned and to plug the various loopholes, deficien- study on "Socio-Economic Impact Analysis cies and malpractices prevalent in the Rail- of Computrised Passenger Reservation at way Reservations; New Delhi". The study is in the process of being finalised. (c) if not, whether it is proposed to conduct study either departmentally or (d) The estimated expenditure incurred through some expert agency; and upto 31-3-1990 by various Railways on computerised reservation systems is fur- (d) the estimated expenditure incurred nished below:

Railway Expenditure in crores n Rs.

Central 22.03

Eastern 19.93

Northern 26.41

North Eastern 0.01

North East Frontier 0.01

Southern 19.23

South Central 9.70

South Eastern 0.01

Western 7.97

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THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Imported coal for Industries in Rajkot MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHAR~N DAS): (a) Yes. Sir. 2020. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHATT:Willthe Minister of ENERGY (b) The proposal is for utilising one of be pleased to state: the spans of nearby Railway Bridge No. 171 as a 'sub-way' for the use of vehicular traffic, (a) whether India has imported coal for which the detailed plans are yet to be from China for ihe engineering industry at finalised by the Urban Improvement Trust, in Rajkot (Gujarat); consultation with the Railways. (b) if so. the quantity thereof; and [English] (c) the total need of coal of industries in Conversion of Nadiad-KapadwaJ line Rajkot and the extent to which the demand and ITs Extension to Modasa has been mel?

2019. SHAI PRAKASH KOKO THE MINISTER F ENERGY (SHRI BRAHMBHAIT: Will the Minister of RAIL- KAL YAN SINGH KALVI): (a) to (c). The WAYS be pleased to state: information is being collected and to the extent available will be laid on the Table of (a) when the work of conversion of the House. Nadiad-Kapadwaj N.G. Railway line to B.G. and its extension upto Modasa was approved Setting up of Power Projects in Andhra and the estimated cost thereof; Pradesh

(b) whether the work IS behind sched- 2021. SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: ule, if so, the reasons therefor; and Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) the steps being taken for allocation of sufficient funds for early completion of the (a) whether some project reports for project? setting up of power projects sent by Andhra Pradesh State Government in 1989-90 are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lying pending with the Union Government; MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) The work was approved (b) if so, the details thereof; and in 1978-79. The present day estimated cost of the project is about Rs. 65 crores. (c) by when these projects are likely to cleared? (b) Yes, Sir. Because allocation of funds could not be made for the project due to severe constraint of resources in previous THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR EN- years. ERGY (SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) and (b). Details of the project reports, which (c) The project was reactivated in 1989- were received in the Central Electricity Au- 90. A sum of Rs. 3 crores was allocated in thority (CEA) for techno-economic clearance 1989~90 and Rs. 6 crores has been provided from the Govt. of Andhra Pradesh during the In the current year. year 1989-90, are given below:- 275 Written AnsW91S JANUARY 8,1991 Written AnsWStS 276

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(b) if so, the details thereof and action (c) the actions taken by the Union taken thereon? Government in this regard?

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2024. SHAI A. VUAYAAAGHAVAN: THE MINISTER F STATE IN THE MIN- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to ISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO state: DHAKANE): (a) and (b). During the last three years no power project was approved (a) the various power projects pending fr execution by the Planning Commission. and sanctioned by the Union Government The present status of power projects which during the last three years for Kerala; have yet to receive techno-economic clear- and ance/approval is given below:- 291 Writte'n Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answets 292

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Posts of Cla.s n Officers March 1988 which inter-alia included finan· cial help and a provision that Department of 2025. SHRf A.K. ROY: Will the Minister Power will ensure ordering for boilers for 800 of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: MW during 1988-89 and 400 MW every year thereafter during the next five years. The (a) whether it is a fad that the posts of ABl has received orders for ~ 050 MW boil- Class-II Officers particufarly in operating ers so far. after the package was formulated. department were created to man the operating work, depotwise, if so, the details thereof (c) The lack of sufficient orders for ABl giving the number of such post created and from various agencies has been due to the offices! depots for which created; pruning of resources of power projeds as many of the projeas envisaged have yet to (b) whether instead of posting them in obtain investment approval. the depots and yards they were posted in Divisional Headquarters and other offices; TTElCoach Conductor for each Rail and Compartment

(c) if so, the details of number of such 2027. SHRI HARADHAN ROY: Will the postings and the reason therefor? Ministar of RAILWAYS be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the Union Govemment are MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAI BHAKTA considering a proposal to provide one TIEl CHARAN DAS): (a) to (c). The information Coach Conductor for each rail compartment; is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. (b) if so, the details thereof; and

Package wHh ACC-Babcok Limited (c) if not, the reasons thereof?

2026. SHRI HAAADHAN ROY: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) to (c). A review of th (a) whether a package was formulated norms for manning of reserved coaches by by the Union Government with the ABL TIEslCoach Conductors is oontemplated. company (Associated Cement & Babcok limited) which interalia included financial Import of 011 from Angola help and guaranted order of Boiler for 800 MW power generation for 1st year and 400 2028. SHAI SHANTARAM JAW for the period of remaining four years; POTDUKHE: Win the Minister of PETRO- lEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) whether the commitment made has been complied with; and (a) whether Angola has offered the crude oil supply under a counter-trade agreement; (c) if not, the reasons therefor? and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof and the MINISTRYOF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO steps being takan to finalise the deal? DHAKANE): (a) and (b). Yes Sir, A package was formulated by Government of India in THE MlNtSTER Of PETROLEUM AND 299 Written Answers JANUARY 8. 1991 Written Answers 300

CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- CHARAN DAS): (8) The current estimated MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA dues from Iraq for jobs executed in that PRAKASH MALVIVA): (a) No, Sir. country by lACON is 74.93 million US dollars and by RITES is 48.685 million US dollars (b) Does not arise. (equivalent to a total of As. 223.74 crores).

Dues Against Iraq (b) toed). The dues are recoverable from the Iraqi Authorities in accordance with 2029. SHRI SHANTARAM agreements between the Governments of POTDUKHE: Will the MinisterofRAILWAYS India and Iraq. which provide, inter-alia, for be pleased to state: the import of crude oil. U.N. Security Council 661 prohibits imports from Iraq. In view, (a) the estimated dues which the Iraqi however, of the current unstable situation in Government owen to the Indian Railways for Iraq, any measure will have to await the various jobs executed in that country by n.ormaJisation in that country. the IRCON and RITES including the cost of stores and equipment supplied; Execution of Schemes by IAAI

(b) how it is proposed to recover the 2030. SHAI AMAL DATTA: Wilt the same; Minister of CIVil AVIATION be pleased to state the schemes of International Airport (c) whether Iraqi Government have Authority of India under execution, their es- suggested any means to say off these dues, timated cost, actual expenditure to date and if so. the details thereof; and the reasons for shortfall. if any?

(d) the reaction of the Government THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE thereto? MINISTRY OF CIVil AVIATION (SHRI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): The information THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE relating to IAAI's major works is given in the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA statement below. 301 Written Answ91S PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Wriften AnSW81S 302

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Bungling on Crude Front (ii) Reduced offtake of crude by Koyali refinery due to 2031. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: LSHS disDOsal problems; SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: (iii) Three day strike by offic- SHRI KAMAL NATH: ers in the oil Sector; SHRI PYARElAL KHANDELWAL: (iv) Shutting off of certain wells SHRI L.K. ADVANI: in Gujarat & Bombay off- SHRI HARISH PAL: shore due to occurance of High Gas Oil Ratios; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (v) Occurrence of floods and water logging in Gujarat; (a) whether the attention of the Gov- ernment has been drawn to the news-item (vi) Delay in development of captioned "Bungling on the crude front" ap- the Ravva offshore field. pearing in the Times of India dated 19 No- vember.1990; (d) The LSHS disposal problem at Koyali Refinery has been resolved. The (b) the production target fixed for the Ravva offshore oilfield is being developed current year by the Oil and Natural Gas expeditiously. A Task Force has also been Commission whether it is not likely to be constituted in ONGC to make an indepth well achieved; wise analysis and a crash programme to optimise production from producing fields. (c) the reasons therefor and the production loss in crude as a result thereof; and Shortage of Wagons at Udaipur Station

(d) the remedial measures being taken 2032. SHRt GULAB CHAND KAT ARIA: by the Government in this regard? Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- (a) whether Udaipur is the largest pro- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA ducerof soapstone, marble, rock-phosphate PRAKASH MAlVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. and zinc in the country which are transported in rakes to other places; (b) The production target fixed for the year for ONGC is 33 million 1onnes. Likely (b) if so, whether adequate number of achievement is expected to be below this wagons are made available at Udaipur rail- target. way station;

(c) The shortfall in production is likely to be to the extent of 2.174 million tonnes the (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and reasons for the shortfall are: (d) whether Government propose to (i) Bandhs and agitations in provide wagons there as per demand? 305 Written AnsW91S PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 306

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTAYOF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) to (d). Yes, Sir, Udaipur CHARAN DAS): (a) Consumption of diesel area is one of one important producers of oil on Railways is mainly on diesellocomo- these commodities and loading is done both tives for traction purposes. Railways have in rakes and piecemeal. Adequate wagons taken a number of steps to improve the are supplied as per priority and in turn to efficiency of diesel locomotives and for move this traffic. In busy season. however, conservation of diesel oil. Some of the im- when higher priority traffic is moved in pref- portant steps taken for conservation of die- erence. there is time gap between indent sel oil are:- and supply. (i) Proper house keeping and [English1 accounta!.

Consumption of Diesel by Railways (ii) Monitoring the consumption of diesel on locomotives driver-wise 2033. KUMARI UMA BHARATI: Will and engine-wise. the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (iii) Maintaining locomotives in good mechanical fettle. (a) the steps taken to conserve the diesel by the Railways; (iv) Lubrication of tracks and wheel flanges etc. (b) the consumption of diesel by the Railways during 1988-89. 1989-90 and till date; and (b) The year-wise consumption of diesel oil by Railways during 19S8-89, 1989-90 (c) the steps taken for electrification of and 1990-91 (April to September) is as un- traction to conserve the diesel? der:-

Year Consumption of Diesel

(in Lakhs KLs)

1988-89 16.79

1989-90 , 17.05

1990-91 8.27 (April to Sept.)

(Provisional)

(c) During the VII Plan period a total of the first year of the VIII Plan over 1000 route 2812 route kms. were electrHied. and aver- km more are programmed to be electrified, age of 562 rkm per year bringing the total the expectation for the Plan period as a route electrified to 9252 km upto 31.3.90. In whole being about 3000 rkm. 307 Written AnSW81S JANUARY 8.1991 Written AnswelS 308

Drug Import (b) by when all the airports in the country particularly Aurangabad are pro- 2034. SHAI VASANTSATHE: Will the posed to be provided with the night landing Minister of PFTROLEUM AND CHEM ICALS facilities? be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether attention of the Government MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI has been drawn to the news-item captioned HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) A statement is -Drug import by Minister's son under doud- given below. appearing in the 'Economic Times' dated 28 September, 1990; and (b) The Provision of night landing facilities at various airports in the country is a (b) if so, the reaction of the Government continuous process depending on the re- to the observations made therein and facts in quirements of Airlines and availability of land this regard? a'nd financial resources. The Aurangabad airport has been equipped with these facili- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND ties. CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA STATEMENT PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). The drug Interferon Injection (Alpha 2b1Alpha Nl) is 1. Agartala anti cancer drug and stands approved for marketing in the oountry. Permission was 2. Agra given to three firms in this resped on 6.3.88. This drug is listed under OGL Appendix-VI. 3. Ahmedabad List 3. item No. 1 (xii) of the Import & Export Policy 1990-93. Mis Genetics Sciences (I) 4. Allahabad Pvt. ltd. were granted permission on 16.9.88 to impqrt and market the above drug. The 5. Amritsar form 10 licence was granted to the company on 6.4.90 by Drug Controller (India) under 6. Aurangabad Drugs & Cosmetics Act and Rules after the company fulfillod all the conditions for grant 7. Bagdogra· of such a licence. 8. Belg~um Airports with Night landing Facilities 9. Bha1inda 2035. SHRI PRAT AP SINGH: SHAI PUNOLIK HARI 10. Bhopal DANWE: 11. Bhavnagar Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: 12. Bubaneswar

13. Bhuj (a) the name of airports in the country which have been provided with night landing facilities; and 14. Bombay 309 Written AnsW8/'S PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 310

15. Calcutta 39. Puna

16. Calicut 40. Ranchi

17. Chaubua 41. Rajkot

18. Chandigarh 42. Srinagar

19. Coimbatore 43. Tezpur

20. Delhi 44. Tiruchirappali

21. Gorakhpur 45. Trivandrum

22. Gwalior 46. Udaipur

23. Guwahati 47. Vadodara

24. Hyderabad 48. Varanasi

25. Indore 'Palace on Wheels' In South

26. Jaipur 2036. SHRI M.V. CHANDRA SHEKARA MURTHY: 27. Jaisalmer SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: 28. Jamnagar PROF. K.V. THOMAS:

29. Jodhpur Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: 30. Jorhat (a) whether the Government have re- 31. Kanpur cently decided to introduce 'Palace on Wheels' in train in South to boost tourism; 32. Khajuraho and

33. Lucknow (b) if so, the details thereof and by when it is likely to be introduced? 34. Madras THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 35. Madurai MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) and (b). When the new 36. Mangalore air-conditioned take of 'Palace on Wheels' is introduced in October, 1991, the feasibility of . 37. Nagpur using it for a part of the year in the Southern Sector would be examined in consultation 38. Patna with Department of Tourism. 311 Written Answers JANUARY 8. 1991 Written Answers 312

[ Translation] generation from canals and other minor water sources? Hydel Power Projects THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2037. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will MIN ISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: DHAKANE): (a) The State-wise and Union Territory-wise total production of hydel power (a) the Steel-wise and Union territory- during 1989-90 is given in the statement I wise total production of hydel power in the below. country; (b) and (c). The Region/State-wise (b) the number of pending hydeJ power particulars of ongoing and sanctioned hydel projects and the capacity thereof; projects yielding benefits in the 8th Plan, their capacity and likely commissioning (c) the time by which these projects are schedule are given in the statement-II below. likely to be completed and start functioning; (d) The proposed installed capacity of power generation from six mUlti-purpose (d) the proposed or likely capadty of projects on vanous rivers flowing in India power generation from different mUltipurpose through Nepal, under discussions IS 15200 projects in various rivers flowing into India MW. There is no Agreement yet on the through Nepal and the time by which these implementation of these projects. are likely to be implemented; and (e) The information is being collected (e) the steps being taken for power and will be laid at the Table of the House 313 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 314

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Power Shortage In Coal Mlna. In Bihar Central Electricity Authority, Damodar Valley Corporation and 2038. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: Coal India Umited, etc. Will the Minister of ENERGY be plea~ed to state: (iii) Setting up of captiva power generation stations by coal compa- (a) whether the coal mines in Bihar are nies. facing acute shortage of power resulting in loss of production; (iv) External support to DVC system by supplying power from surplus (b) if so, the names of such coal mines areas as well as unallocated and the extent of the shortage of power there central share. and since when these coal mines are facing the power shortage; (v) Segregation of feeders to coal mines and direct supply by DVC. (c) the estimated loss of production and value thereof due to shortage of power, [English] mine-wise details; and ADB's Aid for Thermal Power Projects (d) the steps taken by the Government to ensure normal power supply to these coal 2039. KUMARI UMA SHARATI: Will mines? the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (a) the amount of loan approved by the KALYAN SING KALVI): (a) Yes Sir. Par- Asian Development Bank (ADS) to finance ticularly from the last week of June 1990 coal thermal power projects in India; mines in the Eastern Region have been facing shortage of power as well as frequent (b) the names of the thermal power power interruptions. projects which would be financed by the loan; (b) and (c). The information is being collected and to the extent available will be (c) whether the Government propose to placed on the Table of the House. install a thermal power project in Khajuraho constituency; and (d) Steps taken to ensure adequate power supply to these coal minos include: (d) if not, the reasons therefor?

(i) Constant follow up and liaison by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE coal companies with the con- MINISTRYOF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO cerned power supplying authori- DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The Asian Devel- ties. opment Bank (ADS) has approved a loan assistance of US $ 617.40 million (Rs. (ii) Close co-ordination between 1038.13 aores) to finance the following three Departments of Coal, Power, ongoing thermal power projects in India: 347 Written AnSwelS JANUARY 8. 1991 Written Answ91S 348

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(Rs. CroTes)

1. Rayalseema (Muddanur) 230 TPS-2x210 MW 375

2. North Madras TPS- (i) 150 (For Unit 1 & 2) 3x210MW 258

(ii) 77.40 (For unit 3) 133.13

3. Unchahar TPS Extension 160 2x210 MW --272

(c) and (d). The Central Electr.icity Au- Supply of Coal to Cement Industry thority has not received any proposal for installation of a thermal power project in 2041. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Khajuraho. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Petrochemical Projects at Vlsakhapatnam (a) whether cement industry had lately expressed serious apprehensions about 2040. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO: Will the substantial drop in production of cement due Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS to critical supply position of coal; be pleased to state the latest position with regard to the issue of letters of intent for the (b) if so, the overall supply of coal down-stream projects of petrochemical position to this industry as on September complex at Visakhapatnam in Andhra 1990; and Pradesh? (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken to maintain proper supply of coal to the THE MINISTER OF PElROLEUM AND cement industry? CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI PRAKASH MALVIVA): Applications for is- KALYAN SINGH KALVI): (a) to (c). The sued of letters of intent for down stream overall supply of coal to the cement industry projects of Vizag Naphtha Cracker have during the period April-September '90 was been received in Government. Decisions on 45.7 lakh tonnes compared to 43.2 fakh such applications are taken on techno eoo- tonnes in the same period last year. Coal nomic considerations after evaluation of the supplies tocarnent industry specially in South, project proposals. were low during this period on aocountof low 349 Written Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 350 prodUdion in Singareni Collieries Co. due to (a) whether there is any proposal to strikes and disturbed law and order situa- increase the electricity rates in Delhi; and tion. The supplies have since improved. During April-December '90 Cement Industry (b) if so, the details in this regard and has received approximately 70/0 more coal the reasons therefor? compared to the same period last year. The supply of coal to the cement sector is being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE closely monitored in consultation with the MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO Railways and remedial action is being taken, DHAKANE): (a) and (b). Duetothe all round wherever necessary. The overall supplies to increase in the cost of inputs, the present the industry have been satisfactory and cost of generation and purchase of electricity according to latest available information the by DESU is substantially mora than the industry has achieved a growth rate of ap- average realisation. It is, therefore, neces- proximately 60/0 over and above the pro- sary for the DESU, to rationalise the power duction last year. tariff in Delhi, so as to ensure financial viability of the undertaking for maintaining proper Shortage of Power in Deihl supply of electricity in the National Capital.

2042. SHRI BAlGOPAl MISHRA: Will [ Translation] the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Hydro-Electric Projects of Uttar (a) whether there was any shortage of Pradesh power in Delhi during 1989 and 1990; 2044. SHRI HARI RAWAT: Will the (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

(c) the steps taken to monitor the power (a) whether all the Hydro-Electric supply position in Delhi to avoid breakdown? Projects of Uttar Pradesh are pending for clearance with the Government; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO (b) if so, the names of such projects and DHAKANE): (a) to (c). The power supply the time by which they are expected to be position in Delhi in 1989 and 1990 was by cleared/approved; and and large satisfactory. The minor shortages in availability of powar occasion ad by the Northern grid renditions were managed by (c) the proposed time schedules for imposing peak period restrictions on indus- their construction during the Eighth Plan? tries and suitable load management. A Task Force has been set up by the Department of Power to closely monitor the supply of power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Delhi. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) No, Sir.

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expansion of Airport. In U.P. is not discriminatory and there is no proposal to withdraw it. 2045. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to Lo_ Incurred by the Hotel Corpora- state: tion of india

(a) whether the Government propose to 2047. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: expand some airports and construct some SHRI A. VLJAYARAGHAVAN: new air strips in Uttar Pradesh; and WiD the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be (b) if so, the details in regard there-to pleased to state: and the time by which the construction thereof is likely to be completed? (a) whether the -Hotel Corporation of India is running into loss; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHAI (b) if so, the namasof its units running in HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) and (b). There loss; is no plan at present to construct new air strips in Uttar Pradesh. However, extension (c) whether the Government have de- and modification of the terminal complex at cided to sell this company to private parties; the Agra airport and construction of a new and terminal complex at the Lucknow airport are contemplated for 1991-92. (d) if so, the justification thereof?

Ground Dutlea to Air Hostesses THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI 2046. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the HARMOHAN OHAWAN): (a) and (b). Yes, Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to Sir. Except the Centaur hotel, Bombay Air- state: port, other units are incurring losses.

(8) whether the Air India has decided to (c) and (d). The Board of Air-India has entrust ground duties to the air hostesses decided that the Hotel Corporation of India after a certain age; should seek equity collaboration with an internationally reputed hotel chain willing to (b) if so, whether the said decision is take over the marketing and management of being opposed by the employees' associa- the Hotel Corporation of India. This has tions; and become necessary on account of the high losses suffered by the HCI and its inability to (c) if so, the steps proposed to be taken compete effectively in the market. by the Government to stop implementation of the said decision? (Englsh)

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Permission to privata agencies for MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI operating Air Taxis HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. 2048. SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: (b) Yes, Sir. SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA: (c) The circular in question of Air India SHRI MORESHWAR SAVE: 359 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 360

Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be Thus, there will be benefits to the travelling pleased to state: public and at the same time, the interests of the Indian Airlines would also not be affected. (a) whether the Government have given permission to certain private agencies for [Translation] operating air taxis; Irregularities commHted by official of (b) if so, the number of agencies which DeSU have started air taxis and the details of zones/areas of their operations; and 2049.DR. CHINTA MOHAN: SHRI PHOOl CHAND VERMA: (c) whether the pilots of the airlines have protested against this decision and if so, Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased their demands and the Government's attitude to state: towards this problem? (a) whether the 3ttention of the Gov- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ernment has been drawn to a news item MINISTRY OF CIVil AVIATION (SHRI captioned • criminals in the grab of 'DESU'

HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. appearing in the 'Times of India I dated 31 August,1990; (b) As of now, Air Taxi Operators Permit has been issued to the following four parties; (b) whether the Government have received the enquiry report in regard to the fire 1. MIs India International Airways in jhuggis in January. 1990 on the banks of Pvt. ltd., New Delhi. yamuna near ITO, Delhi; and

2. MIs Delhi gulf Airways Services (c) if so, the details thereof and the Pvt. ltd., New Delhi. action taken or proposed to be taken by the Government against those involved in the ~. MIs Manak ji Aviation Pvt. Ltd., irregularities and named in the enquiry report? Bombay. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 4. MIs Air Asiatic ltd., Madras. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) to (c). The information is Air taxi operators are private non- being collected and will be laid on the Table scheduled operators. No routes are pre- 01 the House. scribed for them by the Government. 011 refineries at Karnal and Mangalor. (c) Some unions of Indian Airlines had protested against the liberatisation of the 2050.SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: guidelines relating to tha operations. SHRI C.P. MUDALA GIRIYAPPA: Government's policy have however been SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: explained to them. While Indian Airlines would SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: continue to bethedominant domestic carrier, SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA· air taxis woVld provide complementary ser- NARASIMHA RAJA WADIYAR: vices on routes not operated by the Indian Airlines and a measure of competition on Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND routes that are operated by Indian Airlines. CHEMICALS be pleased to stat.: 361 Written Answ91S PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Writtsn AnswslS 362

(a) whether the Government had taken Harnessing of Tidal Energy a decision to set up oil refineries at Karnal and Mangalore; 2051. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: SHRI R.N. RAKESH: (b) if so, whether the Government had SHRI MULlAPPAlLY fixed a time schedule for completion of their RAMACHANDRAN: construction work; Will the Ministarof ENERGY be pleased (c) if so, the details thereof; to state:

(d) whether the construction work of the (a) whether the Government have re- said refineries is in progress as per the time ceived detailed survey report for hamessing schedule; of tidal waves for power generation;

(e) if not, the reasons therefor and the (b) if so, the details of the survey report present position thereof; in respect of prospects of tapping tidal power along the Western Coast of Kerala and about (f) whether the Government have now the Eastern Coast; drawn up any revised schedule for completion of the construction work of the said (c) if so, whether the Govemment have refineries; and finally decided to set up such projects;

(g) if 90, the details thereof? (d) if so, the proposed locations thereof and the targets of power generation fixed for THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND such projects; CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA (e) whether the comparative cost of PRAKASHMAlVIYA):(a)to(e).ln 1984the power generation through tidal waves is Govemment had decided to set upa 6 MTPA less; and refinery at Karnal with the completion schedule by mid 1992. The implementation (f) if so. the details thereof? of the project has been delayed due to a number of techno-economic issues and fi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE nancial constraints. The Govemment has MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO asked Indian Oil Corporation to submit the DHAKANE): (a) The Government have re- revised Detailed Feasibility Report (OFR) at ceived the detailed techno-economic feasi- the earliest for Govt.'s approval so that fur- bility report for setting up of a Tidal Power ther steps for implementation of the project Plant In the Gulf of Kachchh in Gujarat. can be taken up expeditiously. (b) Detailed investigations and studies A proposal for setting up a 3 tATPA for tapping tidal power along the Western petroleum refinery at Mangalore at an esti- Coast of Karata or along the Eastern Coast mated cost of Rs. 1160 erorss is under the have not been carried out so far. consideration of the Government.

(f) No, Sir. (c) The decision to sat up a tidal power plant in GuH of Kachchh will be taken after (9) Does not arise i," view of (f) above. the evaluation of the feasibility report has 363 Written AnSW61S JANUARY 8, 1991 Written AnsWBIS 3ti4 been completed by the Central Electricity and components of the projects have been Authority. appraised for financing by the World Bank.

(d) The expected annual energy output Overbrldga. In Keral. from the proposed tidal power project in the Gulf of Kachchh is 1690 Million Kwh. 2053. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (e) and (f). The cost of generation of energy from the proposed tidal power plant (a) the number of new railway in the GuH of Kachchh has been estimated to overbridges proposed to be construded in be 96 paiselKwh. at December, 1987 price Karala during 1990-91; level. The average cost of generation from conventional hydro and thermal power (b) the total cost of the over bridges; and projects, based on the projects recently appraised by CEA is as under:- (c) the Railways' share of the cost of construction of the overbridges? Hydro: 50 paise to 85 paisel Kwh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Thermal: 75 paise to As. 1.25/ Kwh MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAt BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (al Four numbers at ONGC Projects Cleared Punkunnam. Wadakancheri (Multurcarai). [English] TIrupunithura and Badagara.

2052. SHRI MANIK SANYAl: Will the (b) Rs. 600. 141akhs. Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- CALS be pleased to state: (c) Rs. 253. 15 lakhs.

(a) whether the attention of the Gov- [ Translation] ernment has been drawn to the News-item captiened -ONGC project cleared" appear- Waiting List of LPG connections and ing in the Financial Express (New Delhi LPG agencJesln Balaghat, Madhya edition) dated 7 December. 1990; and Pradesh

(b) if so, the reaction of the Government 2054. SHRI KANKAR MUNJARE: Will in this matter? the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMI- CALS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- (8) the number of LPG oonsumers in MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Balaghat district of Madhya Pradesh PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes. Sir. alongwith the number of persons on the waiting list; (b) It is a fact that ONGe's projects for the development of L -II and L -III reservoirs in (b) the steps taken to clear the waiting Bombay High field have been cleared by the list; Publk: Investment Board and recommended for approval to Government. It is also true Cc) whether any proposal to set up ad- that the projects would help to stop the dit~nal gas agencies in 8alaghat district is flaring of associated gas in Bombay High under consideration of the Govemment; 365 Written AnsWBIS PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written AnSW91S 366

(d) if so the action proposed to be taken (c) if so, the details thereof; and by the Government in this regard; and (d) the time by which survey work is (e) if not, whether the Government likely to be conducted? propose to invite any proposals in this regard in the near future? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND CHARAN DAS): (a) No, Sir. CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA (b) and (c). A survey was carried out in PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) As on November 1980 for conversion of Jabatpur-Gondia 1, 1990 there were about 6,057 LPG con- section along with Balaghat-Katangi Branch sumers and about 1,800 persons on waiting (278 km) from NG to BG. The project was list for new LPG connections in Balaghat found to be financially unremunerative and distrICt of Madhya Pradesh. could not be taken up. The survey has been updated recently and the rate of return has (b) New LPG connections are released still been found as negative. all over the country in a phased manner. under the annual programmE' for enrolment The Railway has been advised in August' of customers, subject to availability of LPG. 90 to extend the soope of the survey con- The availability is further augmented through ducted for conversion of Jabalpur Gondia enhanced production and imports. section along with Balaghat-Katangi Branch from NG to BG upto Chandrapur so that (c) There is no such proposal under establishment of a meaningful alternative consideration at present. North-South route can be considered.

(d) Does not arise. Tirodi-Tumsar is already a B.G. line.

(c) Locations for additional gas agendes (d) As the Railway already has a num- are Included in the LPG Marketing plans, ber of important surveys on hand, this survey depending on potential to establish viable ordered recently will also take some time to distributorships and availability of porduct. complete.

Conversion of Balaghat-Katangl and [English] TIrodl-Tummsar Railway Lines Energy saving devices 2055. SHRI KANKAR MUNJARE: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to 2056. SHAI KUSUMA KRISHNA state: MUriTHY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (8) whethertheGovernmentproposeto convert all metre gauge lines into broad (a) whether the Government have gauge lines; identified energy saving devices available in international market if so. the details thereof; and (b) whether it is proposed to convert Balaghat-Katangi and Tirodi- Tummsar lines (b) the total demand of coal by the into broad gauge; power sector during 1989-90 and 1990-91 367 Written AnswelS JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 368 and the extent to which it could be met by the 8. Heat pipes for extracting heat from Coal India Ltd.? low temperature fluids and gases.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 9. Heat pumps for space heating, water MINISTRYOFENERGY(SHRIBABANRAO heating, cooling applications. DHAKANE): (a) Considering that the energy conservation devices! equipments are being 10. Free ball bucket steam traps with no continuously developed the World over, ef- linkslhinges. forts are continued to be made to identity such devices fortheir application in India. Of 11. Automatic microprocessor based load the items already identified, 15 devices! demand controllers for efficient load equipments, indicated in the statement given management. below are presently offered concessional duty. 12. Microprocessor based combustion control system for boilers. (b) Against the total projected requirement of 121.0 million tonnes (MT) for the 13. Light sensitive time switches for street power Sector during 1989-90, the actual light controls. receipt was 110.7 M. T. During the year 1990- 91. against the estimated coal demand of 14. Microprocessor based automatic an- 131 MT, the receipt is likely to be about 113 ode over-potential controllers in MT. caustic, chlorine and aluminium industries. STATEMENT 15. Micro processor based universal List of Dev; cesl programmable timers for continuous Equipments where concessiona/ duty is and batch processes, such as in tyre offered industry and rayon industry.

1. Flameless Furnaces for reheating and Losses SUffered by Vayudoot heat treatment applications.

2. High velocity recirculating furnances 2057. SHAI KUSUMA KRISHNA for reheating and heat treatment ap- MURTHY: plications. SHRI R.N. RAKESH: SHRt VAMANRAO % 3. Low excess air burners (below 10 MAHADIK: excess air.) SHRt V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: 4. Fuel oil emulsion burners. SHRI N. DENNIS: SHAI PHOOL CHAND 5. Regenerative burners for applications VERMA: in forging and heat treatment furnaces. DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA: 6. Self-Recuperative burners (Burners SHRI Y.S. RAJA SEKHAR using pre-heated air). REDDY: SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA 7. Flat flame burners. GAVIT: 369 Written Answers PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 370

PROF. VIJAY KUMAR MAlHOTRA: Year Losses fRs. in lacs) SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: 1 2 SHRI YASHWANTRAO PATIL: 1987-88 1859.32 DR. ASIM BALA: SHRt NIAMAl KANTI 1988-89 2135.50 CHATTERJEE: SHRI MANIK SANYAL: 1989-90 2969.97 Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: 1990-91 1422.88 (upto Oct., 90) (a) whether the Vayudoot has been suffering losses ever since its inception; The figures are subject to audit.

(b) if so, the extent of losses suffered In orderto cut down the losses, Vayudoot during the last three years and the current is taking steps to rationalise its route network. year 1990-91 so far and the steps initiated to By discontinuing services on sectors of low cut down the losses particularly to reduce passenger load factor, the numberofstations overheads and economise on administrative in the network has already been curtailed to expenditure etc.; 55. Vayudoot is also taking action to reduce the non-operating expenditure and enhance (c) whether the Government propose to non-operating revenue. The focus of fix responsibility for the losses; Vayudoot'soperations will be on commercial considerations in order to reduce the mag- (d) whether the Vayudoot, in a bid to nitude of losses. rake in more revenue, has decided to launch a new scheme from January, 1991 on the (c) Vayudoot is saddled with aged and lines of sponsored television programme; uneoonomic fleet, short haul operations and unremunerative fare structure. These have (e) if so, the details thereof and the rendered Vayudoot's operations inherently response received so far; unviable. Excessive expansion of the operations, over staffing land increase in (f) whether the Government propose to maintenance cost due to depreciation of the extend the services of Vayudoot to foreign Indian Rupee have also contributed to the countries; and losses of Vayudoot.

(g) if so, the details thereof? (d) and (e). Sponsorship of its flights is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE one of the measures being contemplated by MINISTRY OF CIVil AVIATION (SHRt Vayudoot to increase its non-operating rev- HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. enue. The scheme is yet to be launched and negotiations with the parties are going on. (b) Approximate losses suffered by Vayudoot during the last three years and (f) No, Sir. during the current year upto October are as follows:· (g) Does not arise. 371 Written AnsW81S JANUARY 8.1991 Written Answers 372

World Bank loan for power sector Pantry car contract In Shatabdl Express

2060. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: 2058. SHRI B.N. REDDY: Will the Min- Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to ister of ENERGY be pleased to slate: state:

(a) whether the Government are aware (a) whether the pantry car contract in that the World Bank proposes to effect some Shatabdi Express (Oelhi-Chandlgarh) has fundamental changes in its procedures of not been awarded to a genuine party; and giving loans for investment in power sedor in developing countries; (b) if so, the corrective steps being taken (b) if so, whether these dlanges are in this regard? likely to affect India; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the details thereof? MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRIBHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN ISTAY OF ENERGY ( SHRI BABANRAO (b) Does not arise. DHAKANE): (a) No, Sir. LPG terminals at Kandla and Mangalore (b) and (c). Do not arise. 2061. SHRI C.P. MUDALA GIRIYAPPA: Transfer of officers posted at Ambala SHRI MADHAVRAO canH. SCINDIA: SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO:

2059: SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to CHEMICALS be pleased to state: statA: (a) whether there IS a proposal for (a) the details of period of postings of establishment of LPG term;nals at Kandla Divisional Railway Manager, Assistant Divi- and Mangalore; sional Railway Manager, Senior Deputy Commercial Superintendent and Deputy (b) if so, the details and estimated cost Commercial Superintendent in Ambala CantL thereof; and during the last five years; and (c) the steps taken by the Government (b)the reasons for their overstay at one in this regard? station and when these officers are likely to be transferred after the expiry of their term? THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lltE MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. CHARAN DAS): (a) and (b). Information is being oollected and will be laid on the Table (b) The details and estimated costs are of the Sabha. yet to be decidod. 373 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 CSAKA) Written AnswsfS 374

(c) The Government have accorded providing students concession for Vayudoot approval to Indian Oil Corporation and services to bonafide students moving out of Hindustan Petroleum Corporation for Mizoram; preparation of Detailed Feasibitity Reports COPRs) for these projects at Kandla and (b) if so, the reasons for not providing Mangalore respectively. The reports have this facility to the bonafide students by since been received. Vayudoot Agents and departmental in Mizoram; Non-Availability of LPG Regulators In Mlzoram (c) whether such concession is available and provided by Vayudoot Agents and de.. 2062. DR. C. SILVERA: Wi" the Minis- partmental offices to Mizom students when ter of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be they return to Mizoram from any part of the pleased to state: country;

(a) whether the Government have re- (d) if so, whether the Government pro- ceived complaints regarding non-availability pose to take some action to remove this of LPG regulators with the LPG dealers in anomaly immediately; and Mizoram; (e) if so, the details thereof? (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF ST",TE OF THE (c) if not, the reasons for not issuing new MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI LPG connections on the priority vouchers HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) to (e). Con- issued on the recommendations of VIPs in cession is given to bonafide students of Mizoram; and recognised educational institutions, at the rate of 500/0 of the basic fare, on Vayudoot (d) the steps proposed to be taken by services, for travel from place of study to the Government in this regard? home town or vice versa. Handling agents of Vayudoot Limited have also been authorised THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND to issue such concessional tickets in con- CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- sultation with Vayudoot booking offices. MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI SATYA According to Vayudoot, no complaint has PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (d). During the been received by it regarding refusal of such year 1990 (upto November) no complaint concession to bonafide students of Mizoram. regarding non~availability of LPG regulators, delay in release or non-release of LPG 8alrabl Hydel-Electrlc Project In connections against priority authorisation has Mizoram been received by Indian Oil Corporation, the only oil company marketing LPG in Mizoram. 2064. DR. C. SILVERA: Will the Minis- tar of ENERGY ba pleased to stata: Non.. provlslon of Student Conceaslon by Vayudoot Agents (a) whether requests have been received in October, 1990 for early execution 2063. DR. C. SILVERA: Will the Minister of the Bairabi hydel project in Mizoram; of CIVil AVIATION be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof and action (a) whether there is any provision for taken thereon; and 375 Written Answers JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answers 376

(c) when the execuf10n of the project is Direct train from BombaylMadr.a to likely to take place? Chopan In U.P.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2066. SHRI KALP NATH RAt Will the MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: DHAKANE): (a) and (b). ThaGQvt. of Mizoram had requested the Govt. India in August, (a) whether there is proposal to connect 1990 that the Bairabi (Ohaleshwari) Project the Southern part of the country with the may be reconsidered for early clearance and industrial area of Sonbhadra district of Uttar implementation as a purely hydroelectric Pradesh and Sidhi of Madhya Pradesh by project. Earlier due to the high 8$timated introducing one direct train from Bombay or cost of generation, it had been evaluated as Madras to Chopan; and a multi~purpoS8 project with 600/0 of the cost chargeable to power sector and the balance (b) if so. the details thereof? to other beneficiary sectors. In view of the present request of the Govt. of Mizoram, it THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has been felt that alternative studies need to MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA be carried out to examine whether by CHARAN DAS): (a) No, Sir. changing certain basic parameters of the schemes it would be possible to make it (b) Does not arise. techno-economically and environmentally viable. Training of Scheduled Tribes Officers in Foreign countries (c) Subject to availability of funds during the. 8th Plan, the project will be considered 2067. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will for execution after the required alternative the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to studies are completed and its viability on the state: changed parameters ie established. (a) the number of Scheduled Tribe New division at Chopan in U.P. Officers sent abroad for training during the last three years; 2065. SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) whether some Scheduled Tribe Of- ficers were selected fortraining in U.K. during (a) whether the Union Government 1986-87 and were kept as reserve and finally have decided to establish a railway division left out; and at Chopan in Sonbhadra district of Uttar Pradesh; and (c) if so, the number of such officers and the reasons therefor and the action being (b) if so, whether there is a proposal to taken by the Government in this matter? include some portions of Northern Railway upto Chopan in this Division? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAI BHAKTA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE CHARAN DAS): (a) Two. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN OAS): (a) No, Sir. (b) Yes. Sir.

(b) Does not arise. (c) Two. Since there was no dropout 3n Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsW81S 378 amongst regular candidates in the training (c) whether the Government propose to course in which two Schedufed Tribe Offic.. encourage private sector to tap the non- ers were kept as reserve in 1986-87, they conventional energy sources; and could not be sent on training abroad, in that training course. (d) if SO, the staps taken or proposed to be taken in this regard?

Reported Atrocities against SC/ST THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Officials MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) and (b). The Department of 2068. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will Non-Conventional Energy Sources have the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to launched a number of programmes for har- state: nessing non-conventional sources of energy and have by now succeeded in installing (a) the total number of Group 'A' officials among others 14.85lakh biogasplants, 92.66 who were reverted during the course of takh improved chulhas, 1,57. 970 solar enquiry and how many of them belonged to cookers, 630 Community and Institutional SC and ST during the last three years; Biogas Plants, 34 MWof wind generation capacity and 40,000 solar energy based (b) the total number of Group lA' officials systems. who were transferred from one railway zone to another when the enquiry was halfway (c) and (d). As a part of the programmes, and how many of them belonged to SC and the private s9Ctor is involved in tapping non- ST; and conventional energy sources not only by way of manufacturing these devices but also (c) the action taken against officials in utilising them. A prominent example is found responsible for it? Solar Water Heating where a number of Commercial and industrial institutions have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE used this technology for getting hot water for MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHAI BHAKTA their operations. In Wind Energy also, there CHARAN DAS): (a) to (c). Information is are private sector firms which have installed being collected and will be laid on the Table wind electric generators connected to the of the Sabha. grid.

Privatlsatlon of non-conventional Employment to oust••• of Krishna and sources of energy Godavari Project

2069. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO: Will the 2070. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO: Will the Minister of ENERG¥ be pleased to state: Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whetharthe Government propose to pay special attention to the non-conventional sources of energy in view of the steep rise in (8) the reasons for recruiting persons fuel cost; from outside the State in the on and Natural Gas Commission office of Krishna and Godavari Project instead of recruiting dis· (b) if so, the steps taken so far in this placed persons whose lands were &a1uired regard; by the ONGC for drilling purpose; and 379 Written AnSW91S JANUARY 8: 1991 Written AnswelS 380

(b) the steps being taken by the Govern- Andhra Pradesh State Trading Corporation. ment to appoint displaced or local persons? Supply of Natural Gas In Bombay THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- 2072. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). Recruit- CHEMICALS be pleased to state: ment on Oil and Natural Gas Commission is made in accordance with the procedure (a) whether a project for distribution of prescribed in ONGC (Recruitment &Promo- natural gas in greater Bombay is under ex- tion) Regulations, 1980. amination by the Government;

Almost all land acquisitions by ONGC (b) if so, the details thereof and its are temporary acquisitions for which com- estimated cost; and pensation is paid and the land is eventually restored to the owner with restoration charges (c) the time by which the project is likely paid or after restoring it to the original con- to be implemented? dition. THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND In accordance with the existing policy, CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- no employment assistance is provided to the MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI SATYA members of the family whose land is acquired. PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) to (c): Government ONGC provides necessary financial assis- have approved Gas Authority of India's tance to the schemos formulated by the proposal for the preparation of a Detailed State Govt. for the rehabilitation of affected Feasibility Report for the project to distribute persons. The affected persons are also ad- Natural Gas to domestic, commercial and vised by ONGC to register their names with industrial consumers in Greater Bombay. the local employment exchange so that they According to preliminary estimates the project ca be considered for employment as and would cost Rs. 418 crores. The project when their names are sponsored for the would be implemented on approval of the vacancies in ONGC. Detailed Feasibility Report by Government.

Cold Storage Unit at Hyderabad Airport Setting up of. 011 Refinery In Numallgarh, Assam 2071. SHRt J. CHOKKA RAO: Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to 2073. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: state the action taken or proposed to be Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND taken by the Government to provide a cold CHEMICALS be pleased to state: storage unit at Hyderabad airport for storing produce like fruits, flowers, vegetables etc., .(a) whether there is a project under for export to foreign countries? Government's consideration for the setting up of an oil refinery at Numaligarh in Assam; THE MINISTER OF STATE 0F THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRt (b) if so, the details thereof includ_ing its HARMOHAN DHAWAN): The National cost and capacity; and Airports Authority has no cargo terminal at Hyderabad. The international air cargo (c) the steps taken to implement the complex at Hyderabad is managed by the same early? 381 Written AnSW81S PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) WriHen Answ8ts 382

THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND [ Translation] CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PAR- LIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA Survey of Parbatl another projects In PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. Himachal Pradesh

2075. SHRI MAHESHWAR SINGH: Will (b) It is proposed to set up a grassroot the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: refinery with an initial capacity of 3 MTPA at Numaligarh in Golaghat Distt. of Assam at (a) the progress made so far in the an estimated cost of Rs. 1259.20 crores survey-work of Parbhati Project of Himachal including foreign exchange component of Pradesh and the time by which it is likely to As. 189.13 crores. completed;

(b) the amount allocated by the Union (c) The preliminary activities for imple- Government in this regard for 1990-91 ; mentation of the project have already been started by MIs IBP Co. Umited. (c) the names of the other projects in Himachal Pradesh for which survey work is Setting up of solar power plant at Gaya being conducted alongwith the amount al- In Bihar located for each of them for the year 1990- 91;and 2074. SHAI ISHWAA CHAUDHARY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Cd) whether any representatIOns have state: been received in this regard, and if so, the details thereof and action taken thereon? (a) whether the Union Government have received representations regarding THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE setting up of a power plant based on solar MINISTRYOFENERGY(SHRIBABANRAO energy in GayalBodhgaya (Bihar); DHAKANE): (a) The survey work of Parvati Project is being done by the Government of (b) if so, the details thereof; and Himachal Pradesh through HPSEB. As per information received from HPSEB the de- (c) the aaion taken thereon? tailed investigation of Stage I (750 MW) is being taken up and the Detailed Project THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Report is likely to be completed by 1993-94. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO The investigation work of State II (800 MW) DHAKANE): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. It h"as been is in an advanced stage and likely to be represented to the Union Government that a completed in 1990-91. The Detailed Project solar thermal power station may be set up at Report for Stage III (400 MW) has been Gaya. The proposal involves the installation completed. of a 2 x 30 MW capacity at a cost of over Rs. 200 crores. (b) The investigation of Parvati Project is being done by the State Government with (c) The proposal can be considered for Central assistance. The assistance for the implementation after the meteorological data year 1990.. 91 is being finalised, in consulta- required has been collected, the technology tion with the State authorities. has been proved in Indian conditions, and all necessary in-puts have been tied up. (c) The Hydroelectrtc projects under 383 Written AnSM'e/S JANUARY 8,1991 Written AnSW91S 384 investigation in Himachal Pradesh as indi- the Hon'ble Member of Parliament Shri cated by the HPSEB are given in the state- Mahashwar Singh requesting a Central as- ment below. A lump sum outlay of As. 50 sistance of Rs. 80 lakhs for the investigation lakhs for survey and investigation of hydro- of Parvati Hydroelectric Project during 1990- electric projects has been provided in the 91. The Central Assistance for survey and State Plan for 1990-91. investigation of hydro-electric projects for the year 1990-91 is being finafised" (d) A request has been received from

STATEMENT

Hydro-electric Schemes under Investigation in Himachal Pradesh

S.No. Name of the Scheme Capacity (MW)

1 2 3

1. Baspa Stage-I 150

2. Parvati St.-I 750

3. Parvati State-II 800

4. Malana HEP 60

5. Gyspa HEP 240

6. Duhangan 24

7. Karcham WangtOo 600

8. Allian HEP 100

9. Hibra 240

10. Sawra Kuddu 86

Commercial Helicopter Service In (b) if so. whether tourism would get a Himachal Pradesh boost by linking those places through commercial helicopter service; and 2076. SHRI MAHESHWAR SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) if so, the steps taken by the Govern- ment in this regard so far? (a) whether there are many beautiful places in the tribal areas of Himachal THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Pardesh; MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRJ 385 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 386

HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) to (c). Pawan discussed with the State Government In the Hans limited does not operate scheduled Working Group of Planning Commission. An commercial helicopter service nor does it outlay of Rs. 500 lakhs for 1991-92 and Rs. propose to do so in the near future. 10,000 lakhs during the 8th Plan has been recommended forthe Project by the Working Suspension of Dornlar Air Services Group. The Ministry of Finance has been from Deihl to Kullu requested to pose this project for OECF or other external assistance. 2077. SHRI MAHESHWAR SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGYbe pleased to state: [English]

(a) whether the Dornier air services Fir. at Kadamparal power station In from Delhi to Kullu via Shimla have been Madras suspended; and 2079. SHRI R.N. RAKESH: (b) if so, since when and the reasons SHAI MANIKAAO HODLYA therefor? GAVIT:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Wilt the Minister of ENERGY be pleased MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI to state: HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether a major fire broke out at 400 (b) Dornier operations betw8e~ Shimla Kw hydel power station at Kadamparai and Kulu have been suspended w.e.f. 3rd (Madras) on 19 October, 1990; December, 1990 due to inadequate load during the winter. (b) if so, the causes of the fire and the estimated loss of property; Financial Assistance for LarJl Hydro- Electric Project In Himachal Pradesh (c) whether any enquiry has since been made; and 2078. SHRI MAHESHWAR SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (d) the time by which the above power station i~ likely to work smoothly? (a) whether the Government have received any memorandum for adequate al- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE location of financial assistance for the con- MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO struction of Larji hydro-electric projects in DHAKANE): (a) Yes, Sir. Himachal Pradesh; and (b) As perthe preliminary investigations (b) if so, the details thereof and the carried out by Tamil Nadu Electricity Board, action taken by the Union Government the fire originated on bursting of the 220 KV thereon? cable pot head on blue phase single phase transformer of Unit IV, consequent to which 1800 litres of transformer oil caught fire. The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE loss has been estimated at Rs. 4.92 creres. MINISTRYOFENERGY(SHRIBABANRAO DHAKANE): (a) and (b). Requirement of (c) and (d). Information is being collected funds for Larji Hydro-electric Projec~ was and will be laid on the Table of the House. 387 Written AnsW81S JANUARY 8,1991 Written Answ91S 388

Airbus A-320 Services on Bombay- (b) Does not arise. Cochln and Bombay-Trlvandrum Rout•• (c) Yes, Sir.

2080. SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA: (d) There is no plan to construct a new SHRI P.C. THOMAS: airport at Kottayam.

Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be Doubling of Qullon-Madras Lines pleased to SI 13: 2082. SHAI AAMESH CHENNITHALA: (a) whether it is proposed to operate Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to Airbus A-320 flights on Bombay-Cochin and state: Bombay·Trivandrum routes; and (a) whether there is any proposal for the (b) if so, the details thereof? doubling of the QuHon-Madras railway line;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) if so, the details thereof; and MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHAI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) and (b). Cochin (c) if nol, the reasons therefor? airport is not suitable for A-320 operations. The 80mbay~ Trivandrum route is already THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE catered to by a daily A-320 service. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): (a) to (c). There are two Construction of Airport In Kottayam routes between Madras and OuiJon :-BG route vlaJolarpettai-Salem-Shoranur-Ernakulam- 2081. SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA: Kayankulam and the MG route via Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to '.':, .. 'r'uram -Tiruchch irapalli-"Dindig ul- state: Vlrdnunaydi' i , .. :'\::1 -II. f_'n th~ Rn route double line is available on Madras-Ernakuiant (a) whether there is any propo~ al for section. On Ernakulam-Kayankulam section, constructing new Airports in the country; an alternative 8G line is under construction and when completed, it will provide double (b) if so, the details thereof; line facility in the form of two single lines on this section- one the existing via Kottayam (c) whether any memorandum for and the other via Alleppey under construc- constructing an airport in Kottayam (Kerala) tion. Doubling between Ka}'ankulam and has been received; and Quilon is in progress.

(d) if so, the action taken thereon? There is no proposal for doubling the MG route at present as the MG route is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE sufficientfor meetingthetrafflc requirements. MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) Barring the Clearance to Pending power proJects construction works already in progress, the national Airports Authority has not finalised 2083. SHRI VAMANRAO MAHADIK: any proposal for the construdion of new Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to airports in the country. state: 389 Written AnswslS PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) ~rm9nAnsw91S 390

(a) the names of the power projeds Water Commission/Central Electricity Au- pending for clearance by the Government; thority have been sent to the project authorities in most of the cases and their replies (b) the reasons for holding up of each of to these comments are awaited. Further, in these projects; and some cases relevant essential inputs like fuel linkage, water availability and clearances (c) the steps taken/proposed to be taken such as enwonmental and forest ctearance, by the Government for their early clearance? clearance from State Pollution Control Board, National Airport Authority of India etc., are THE MINISTER OF STATE .IN THE also required to be tied up by the project MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO authorities for techno-economic appraisal. DHAKANE): (a) The information is given in the statement below. Further processing of these schemes for techno-economic clearance would be (b) and (c). After examination of the done after these requirements have been project reports, comments of the Central met.

STATEMENT

51. Name of the Project Capacity No. (MW)

Hydro Projects

Himachal Pradesh

1. Dhanwari Sunda 2 x 35=70

Jammu & Kashmir

2. Naigad Nallah 4 x 1.5=6

3. Hirpora (Shopian) 3 x3 =9

4. Butkot Sakhrus 2 x18 = 36

5. New Ganderbal 3 x15 =45

6. Dumkhar 2 x1.5 -4.5

7. Igo-Mercelong 2 x 1.5.3

8. Boniyar 2 x 1.5 =3

9. Parnai 3 x 12.50 =37.50

10. Mandi 4 x 1 -4

11. Sewa Stage-II 3 x 40 -120 391 Written AnswelS JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 392

51. Name of the Project Capacity No. (MW)

Haryana

12. Oadupur (Revised report) 4 x1.5 -4.60

Uttar Pradesh

13. Dhauliganga (Intermediate St~ge) 4 x 50.200

14. Goriganga Stat9-1& II 3 x 20+3 x 40-180

15. Basuli 5 x 0.856 -4.78

Madhya Pradesh

16. Bansagar Tons Power House -IV (Modified) 2 x 10.20

Maharashtra

17. Konal 2 x 5 = 10

Gujarat

. 18. Karjan L.B.c. (Revised) 2xl -2

Andhra Pradesh

19. Velugudu 2 x 5.10

20. Kakatiya Canal 1 x 3 =3

21. PriyadarshlOi Jurala 6 x 36.9-221.4

22. Nagarjuna PSS (Tail Pond Dam) 2 x 15 -30

23. Somasila 2 x 5 -10

Kerals 24. Maniyar 1 x 5+2 x 2.5-10

25. Kuttiyadi Extension 1x 50.50 393 Written AnsW8/S PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 394

51. Name of the Project Capacity No. (MW)

26. Boothathankettu 3xl0-3D

27. Pallivasal Rehabilitation 3 x 20-60

28. Chembukkedavan-II 3x3=9

29. Karpara Kuriyarkutty Multipurpose project 2 x 12+3 x 20-84

West Bengal

30. Farakka Barrage Hydro electric projed 5 x 25-125

Orissa

31. 8argarh Main Canal -3 x 3-9

Assam

32. Lower Kopili 2 x 50=100

Manipuf

33. loktak Down Stream 3 x30-90

34. Tipaimukh (Multipurpose) 10 x150.1500

35. Tuivai 3 x17-5t

36. Irang 4 x15-60

Arunachal Pradesh

37. Dihang (Multipurpose) 40 x500 -20000

38. Subansiri (Multipurpose) 12 x40O-4800

39. Kameng 4x 150-600 395 Written AnsW91S JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 396

51. Name of the Project Capacity No. (MW)

Thermal

Haryana

1. Hissar TPS 2x250=500

2. PalwalTPS 4x21 0=840

Punjab

3. Goindwal TPS 2x21 0=420

4. Dhuri TPS 2x500=1000

Unar Pardesh

5. Betlhara Road 3x21 0=630

6. Jagdishpur ST 4x35 GT+2x35 5T=: 210

Gujarat

7. Narmada TPS St.1 2x500=1000

8. Sikka TPS St. III 2x21 0=420

9. Gandhinagar CCGT 200

10. Pipavav CCGT-St.11 615

11. Utran CCGT- St.1I 135

Madhya Pradesh

12. Mand TPS 2 x 210 - 420

13. PenchTP8 8t. II 2 x250.S00

14. Gwalior CCGT 817

15. GopadTPS 4 x500-2000 397 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 398

Sl. Name of the Project Capacity No. (MW)

Maharashtra

16. Parli IC' TPS 2 x210=420

17. Dabhol CCGT 4x 120GT+2x 140ST= 760

1B. Shrpl8erga Mounte' PS 110 MIS Confidence Shipping Co.

19. Nagothane CTCC TPS 4x 130GT+2x 150 ST=820

Andhra Pradesh

20. lind CCGT Plant at 3x100=300 ViJjeswarem

21. Kothaguden TPS 5t. V 2x21 0=420

22. Ramagundam TPS Extn. 2x2

23. Gas based TPS at 300 Kakinada

24. LSHS/FO based TPS at Renlgunta 100

25. Gas based TPS at Jegurupadu 400

26. Gas based TPS at Amalapuram 3x25=75

27. Muddanore TPS 2x210

28. Manuguru STPS-NTPC 2x500-1000

Ka rna taka

29. Raichur St. III 1xSOO=500

30. North Madras St. II 2x120=420

31. Cuddarore TPS St rr 3x21 0=630 399 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Wrilfen AnswelS 400

SI. Name of the Project Capacity No. (MW)

Bihar

32. Muzaffarpur Extn. 2x210-420

33. Patratu TPS 2x21 0-420

34. Gaya & Chokai SoJar 120 (2x30 each)

35. Naraj TPS 2x2S0-500

36. Ib TPS Extn. 2x500=1000

West Bengal

37. D.P.L. 7th Unit 1x110=110

38. OG Sets in South 5x6=30 East Calcutta.

39. Budge Budge Generating 2x250=:500 Stn.-CESC

40. Maithonn Left Bank (OVC) 4x21 0-840

Assam

41. Namrup GT Station 2x30=60

Tripura

42. Waste heat plant 11 Baramura

43. GT project at Rokhia 2x8-16 Ph. II

44. GT Project at Rokhia 2x8-16 Ph.1II

45. Gas based GT project 500 Tripura 401 Written Answers PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) Written Answef.S 402

Sl. Name of the Project Capacity No. (MW)

Arunachal Pradesh

46. Gas based powerplant 1x6=6 at Kharasang

A & N Islands

47. Nehru oil based TPS 2x20:::40

Contract for constructing platform at a number of tenders have been floated for Bombay High process platforms in the Western offshore by ONGC no contract has been awarded re- 2084. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: cently. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (b) to (e)~ Do not arise in view of answer to (a) above. (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas Commission (ONGe) has recently awarded 2085. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: a contract to build a processing platform at Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Bombay High; state:

(b) if so, whether there were only two (a) whether traction by steam locomo- parties in the field; tives is found to be costliest;

(c) whether the Government had ruled (b) if so, whether 'idling' plays a signifi- out consideration of one of the bidders. the cant role in increasing the costs; Japanese Consortium leaving only one bidder viz, Hyundai Heavy Industries, a South Ko- (c) if so, whether the Railways propose raan Company in the field; to review their reported decision to continue utilisation of steam locomotives for ten more (d) whether the bid of the South Korean years; and Company was unreasonably delayed in scrutiny; and (d) whetherthe Railways have examined the feasibility of using electric traction for (e) if so, whether the delay has cost the shunting and other departmental operations country Rs. one hundred crores by way of in all major yards inthe interests of economy? Increased costs? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTEROF PETAOLEUM AND MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRt BHAKTA CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- CHARAN DAS): (a) Yes. Sir. MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) No Sir. Although (b) Yes, Sir. The shutting down of steam 403 Written Answets JANUARY 8.1991 Written Answers 404 engines enroute is not feasible and hence DHAKANE): (a) to (d). The Chukha Hydro- idling is unavoidable. electric Project in Bhutan is owned by the Royal Govt. of Bhutan and was implemented (c) Phasing out of steam locomotives, by Chukha Project Authority-an autono- besides economy. has also to depend on the mous organisation under the Royal Gov- availability of funds, manufacturing capacity ernment of Bhutan. According to the infor- of diesel and electric locomotives and op- mation available with the Govt. of India. erational needs for additional traffic. Review employees directly recruited by the Chukha is carried out keeping these faCtors in view project authority are being rendered surplus periodically and the present indications are on completion of the project and accordingly that the steam locomotives are likely to be face retrenchment. According to the Project completely phased out within the next 10 Author~ies those employees who had refused years or so. to indicate their willingness to work for the Royal Govt. of Bhutan on oontract basis (d) Yes, Sir. In yards having several have been retrenched. In order to find al- shunting movements, it has not been found ternate employment, the Public Sector Un- economical to perform shunting with electric dertakings in the power sector, have been locomotives on account of the need for large requested to absorb as many as of these capital investment in wiring of the whole surplus employees as possible. ft may also yard, sidings etc. However, a few main line be possible to absorb a few of the Chukha electric locomotives are used for depart- surplus workers on the investigations pro- mental and minor shunting oJ.)erations posed to be undertaken for Chukha Stage II enroute on account of operational ne.~ds. and III depending upon their experience and suitability. Retrenchment of employees of Chukha Hydroelectric Project Power shortage In Southern Region

2086. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: 2087. SHRI M.V. WilLthe Minister of ENERGY be pleased to CHANDRASHEKARA refer to the reply given to Unstarred Ques- MURTHY: tion No. 9849 on 22 May, 1990 and state: SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: (a) whether servicas of nine workers have already been terminated in November. Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased 1990; to state:

(b) whether some more workers are (a) whether the attention of the Gov- also facing retrenchment; ernment has been drawn to a news item captioned "Power shortage to hit South in (c) if so. the reasons therefor; and 2000" in the -Indian Express' dated 5 De- cember, 1990; (d) whether all the employees working in Chukha Hydro-Electric Project will be (b) if so, the steps the Union Government absorbed in phase II of any other projects in propose to take to meet the power shortage Bhutan or in India? in the South;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether Central Planning Authority MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO is fully responsible for the power planning in 405 Written Answers PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 406 the cou~try; and (a) whether the Mangalore-Bombay, Mangalore-Dadar, Trivandrum-Rajkot and (d) if SOt the steps CPA has envisaged Cochin-Ahmedabad trains halts at K.R. to tackle the problem? Puram railway station which is 15 km. away from the Bangalore City; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO (b) whether there is a demand for halt of DHAKANE): (a) Yes, Sir. these trains at Bangalore City Railway Sta- tion; and (b) In orderto increase the availability of power in the Southern region, various mea- (c) if so, the decision taken in matter? sures are being taken which include expe- diting commissioning of new capacities in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the constituent States of the region and the MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA Central Sector, optimum utilisation of exist- CHARAN DAS): (a) Yes, Sir. ing capacities, reduction in transmission and distribution losses, implementation of reno- (b) Yes, Sir. vation and modernisation programme of existing power stations, effective load man- (c) Examined but not found feasible. agement and conservation of energy. Expenditure on maintenance of (c) and (d). One of the functions of the westland helicopters Central Electricity Authority. which has been constituted under the Electricity (Supply) 2089. SHRI PYARELAL Act, 1948, is to formulate short term and KHANDELWAL: persecutive plans for power development in DR. DAULATRAO SONUJI the country. The Authority had prepared a AHER: National Power Plan in June. 1987. covering DR. LAXMINARAYAN the period from 1985-2000 envisaging a PANDEYA: capacity addition of 48 t OOO MW in the Eighth Plan (1990-95) and 62,000 MW in the Ninth Will the Minister of CIVIL AVIATION be Plan (1995-2000) in addition to the target of pleased to state: 22, 245 MW in the Seventh Plan (19BS- 1990). However, for the Eighth Plan. the (a) whether a large number of Westland Department of Power, based on the report of helicopters had been grounded recently; the Working Group on Power constituted by the Planning Commission. have proposed a (b) if so, the number thereof and the capacity addition of 38,369 MW (including reasons therefor; 7606 MW for Southern Region). The Eighth Plan is yet to be finalised by the Planning (c) the cost of maintenance of a Westland Commission helicopter in comparison to the cost of maintenance of other helicopters; Halt at Bangalore (d) the average cost of maintenance of 208B. SHRf M. V. CHANDRASHEKARA a Westland helicopter and how it would MURTHY: Will the Ministerof RAILWAYS be compare after the implementation of the pleased to state: Hussaini Committee Report; 407 Written Answers JANUARY 8, 1991 Written Answers 408

(e) whether Government had taken into (f) The recommendations of the account this factor while taking a decision to Hussainy Committee, other than those re- accept this helicopter and if so, the details lating to major modifications on the helicop- thereof ; and ters and engines for which the manufacturers are responsible, have already been (f) the progress made so far after ac- implemented. As regards, major modifica- ceptance of the Hussaini Committee Report? tions. detailed discussions have been held with the manufacturers. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI Malpractices In Railways HARMOHAN DHAWAN): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. the entire fleet of nineteen Westland 2090. SHRI RAM SAGAR helicopters was grounded with effect from (Saidpur): 21.12.89 pending an inquiry into the opera- DR. SHAllENDRANATH tional and safety aspects of these helicopters SHRIVASTAVA: by an Expert Committee. Following the recommendations of this Committee, Westland Will the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased Helicopters have recently been reinducted to state: into service. At present, six of these helicopters are flying for ONGC and Oil India (a) whether the Government have Limited. launched a spedal drive recently to check the malpractice in the railways; (c) While the average maintenance cost of Westland helicopters is estimated at Rs. (b) if so, the number of officials appre- 26.634 per hour, it is estimated at Rs. 13,3481 hended as a result thereof and the action - per hour for Dauphin helicopters, which is taken against them; and the other helicopter operated by Pawan lians Limited. (c) the number of officials apprehended on charges of corruption/malpractices dur- (d) The average cost of maintenance of ing the last three years; year-wise and zone- Westland helicopters including reserve for wise? overhaul is estimated to be Rs. 26,634 per hour. This does not include customs duties, freight insurance etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA The cost and liabilities Involved in CHARAN DAS): (a) Drive against corruption maintenance after implementation of the and malpractices on the Railways has been recommendations made by the H ussainy a continuous process and this has been Committee are yet to be worked out. intensified recently.

(e) The maintenance cost estimated at the time of purchase of Westland and Dau- (b) and (c). Arising out of investigation of phin Helicopters was Rs. 5901/- and Rs. complaints, and preventive checks con- 3981/- per hour respectively. The differential ducted by the Railways on their own, during in maintenance cost was compensated by the years 1988,1989 & 1990 (upto Novem- Westland Helicopters Limited by way of a ber), number of officials taken up for disci- lump sum operating subsidy of £ 10 million plinary action for malpractices/corruption is equivalent to Rs. 18.97 crores. given below year-wise and zone-wise:- 409 Written Answers PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 410

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Closure of Plastic Processing units (c) the steps Government have taken or propose to take to safeguard the domestic 2091. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA drug industry particularly the small scale MURTHY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM industry and the details thereof? AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether plastic processing units are CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- getting closed down due to sharp escalation MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA in naphtha prices accompanied by short PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) Yes, Sir. supply of raw plastic materials; and (b) and (c). The existing drug policy of (b) if so, the steps taken or proposed to the Government already provides adequate be taken in the matter? safeguards to the domestic drug industry. While there are no restrictions on production THE MIN ISTER OF PETROLEUM AND and supply of drugs by the Small Scale CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- Sector units, the permissible list of drugs and MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA condrtionsof production and supply stipulated PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (b). In order in the Drug Policy for Indian companies in to cope with the consequences on the Oulf the organised sector are more favourable crisis, Government imposed a gulf surcharge than those stipulated for FERA units. of 25% on petroleum products including Naptha, which is a major feedstock for the [ Translation] production of Polymers used by the plastic processing units. This has resulted in an Transfer of Sanan Project increase in the price of Polymers.

About 50% of the total requirement of 2093. SHRI MAHESHWAR SINGH:Wili Polymers is imported and due to the gulf the Ministerof ENERGYbe pleased to state: crisis, international prices and availability of polymers has become difficult. As a reSUlt, (a) whether the Himachal Pradesh there are some shortages in the market. Government have requested the Union Domestic producers have been asked to Government to transfer the Sanan Project maximise their production. from Punjab Government to Himachal Pradesh Government; Foreign Drug units

2092. SHRI RAMESHWAR PRASAD: (b) if so, the details thereof; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to state: (c) the steps taken by the Union Gov- ernment in this regard so far? (a) Whether attention of the Government has been drawn to the news item published in the Hindustan Times', Delhi dated No· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE vember, 21, 1990 underthe caption "Foreign MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BABANRAO drug units pressurizing India"; DHAKANE): (a) to (c). The State Govern- ment of Himachal Pradesh has agreed not to (b) if so, Government's reaction thereto; pursue its requestforthetransferof Joginder and Nagar (Shanan) Power House. 413 Reported Disconnection PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Press, Faridabad 414 of electricity to Thompson [English] sections of the House, not only of the Op- Plastic Processing Industry position, out even of the ruling party, had expressed concern overthe goings-on in the 2094. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR Thomson Press. Haryana and the Prime GANGWAR: Will the Minister of PETRO- Minister took note of the views expressed in LEUM AND CHEMICALS be pleased to this House and categorically told the House: state: [ Trans/ationl (a) whether the plastic processing industry has been affected due to Increase in U't will be a matter of regret and shame the prices of polymer in the international for all of us if an assault is made on the market; freedom of the Press. Freedom of the Press should neverbe infringed. I would (b) if so, the manner in which it has been co lIect th e InforrT"ation from the Haryana affected; Government and I assure the Press that the Central Government would (c) whether about 50,000 small scale take all possIble steps to see to it that units will face closure due to this PtIC8-llse; the freedom of the Press is not in- and fringod ,!

(d) if so, the action being taken by the [~nglish) Government in this regard? I do n01 think there can be more cat- THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND egorical reassurance for the House than CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PAr~LlA what was said by the Prime Minister yes- MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA terday. But I am sorry to say that during the PRAKASH MALVIYA): (a) and (d) As about 24 hours that have passed since then, things 50%, of the total requirement of Polymers have wOI~ened. There has been no Im- has to be Imported, the Increase In the price provement ot any kind in the situation so far of Polymers in international markets follow- as far as thl~ pal11cular episode is concerned. Ing the gUl1 cnslS has resulted in high landed I have accertalned only this morning before cost of such imports to consumers In the coming to lne House that the power is still cut Plastic Processing industry. T},(, Gulf crisis off and the workers who wanted to go to the has also resulted in restricted availnbility of press were beaten up brutally. Here is acase polymers in the international III t:U keto Do- of State power combing with the goonda mestic manufacturers have been asked to power to suppress freedom of the press. maximise production. In the long run, new When this goes on even after the country's domestic production capacities baing ost~b· highest execu1ive has said in Parliament that lished will ease the supply problem. he is not going to permit it and he uses the words: 12.00 hrs. [ Translation] RE. REPORTED DISCONNECTION OF ELECTRICITY TO THOMSON PRESS IN I will prefect freedom of the press at all FARIDABAD AND ALLEGED ATTEMPT cos1s. TO CURB FREEDOM OF THE PRESS [English] [English] It IS, I believH, a challengetothe authority SHRI L.K. ADVANI (New Delhi): Mr. of the State, ot the Centre and a challenge on Speaker, Sir, yesterday my colleaautl, p, of. lhe baSIS ofthfJ patronagethatthese goondas Dandavate and many Members from all receive atthe handsofthe State Government. 415 ,!eported Disconnection JANUAnV 8, 1991 Press, Far;dabad 416 of electricity to Thompson

In this particular case, there is a very long and some of them have said that "you may background, against which background I try to raise the issue in the Parliament but can very unhesitatingly say that the action ultimately you have to deal with us here." being taken against India Todayor Newstrack That is what they have said. So, in spite of is a case of clear vendetta, it is a case of the assurance given by the Prime Minister, vindictiveness-only because you exposed Trade Unions belonging to the Hind Mazdoor us in the past, you did that, therefore. we are Sabha and affiliated unions continue to be going to see that you are penalised and attacked and assurance given by the Prime punished for it. Sir, in this matter time is of the Minister has remained only in the Parliament. essence. I have no doubt that after the It has not been percolated down to the assurance that the Prime Minister gave to Thomson Press. the House, he must have asked his officers to send a message to the State Government Therefore, you as Speaker should direct asking for facts and telling them thot the tt)e Government that all that the Government Press freedom should not be suppressed or should do is whatever assurance is given on muzzled in anyway as this is the a~su'nnce the floor of the Parliament yesterday should given to the House. But it very of tAn hctppens be implemented. I think that direction should that these messages keep lying there and go from the Speaker as that will salvage the after three orfour days the State off ICIZ,tlS say situotion. that they did not know anything about it

[ Translation] SHRI BHAJAN LAL: How many times, you had withdrawn the support? SHRIBHAJANLAL(Faridabad): I spoke on this issue yesterday. (Interruptions) [English]

[Eng/ish] DR. THAMBI DURAl (Karur): I am thankful to the Prime Minister for the assur- MR. SPEAKER: He wanted to speak on ance given to this House. Yesterday, Ifurther this and even Somnath Babu wanted him to added in my submission regarding the speak. atrocities committed against Indian Express and Dinaman by the State Government in ( Interruptions) Tamil Nadu. The Prime Minister should take action on that also. (Interruptions) [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Order please. Mr. SHRI BHAJAN LAL: Mr. SDeakc>r, Sir. Thambi Durai, you most address the Chair. since I have spoken on this subjoct in detail yesterday only I would just like to submit that ( Interruptions) the assurance given by the Prime Minister in this regard in the House yesterday should be MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Thambi Durai, you Implemented without further delay because are a seasoned Parliamentarian. Don't get I feel an influential person is involved in it and carried away by others' interruptions. Please he IS at fault. sit down. Yes, Mr. Chitta Sasu.

SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: You name SHRI CHinA BASU (Barasat): Yes- that person. terday the issue was clinched. The Prime Minister was kind enough to assure that he SHRI BHAJAN LAL: Kindly listen to me. would look into the matter and see that the froedom of the press is not in any way MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. affected. Sir, it is not the question of a particular prc~s-whelher it be Thomson Press SHRI BHAJAN LAl: Unle~s }OU listen or some other-or a publication. Now the to me how will I put forth my pnint. Mr. Parliament is seized of the matter and the Speaker, Sir. he is the General Secretary of highest of the administration of the country theJanata Dal (S) and his father is President has assured. But even that assurance has of that party and the Haryana Government is not yet been implemented in the least. Does being run under their directives. Unless the it not mean an infringement on and a dero- Prime Minister personally takes interest in gation of the parliamentary system? I wantto the matter the injustice done to the press raise this question. It was the opinion ex- cannot be done away with. I refJre~~ent that pressed by the entire House. It was re- ()rea and I am fully aware of the situation sponded to by the Prime Minister. But even prevailing there. The workers have been otter that, the State Government does not victimised and excesses have b0cn com- act according to it. This is a subject which mitted upon them. The matter should be relates to the fundamental right of the people either investigated by a Committee of this and fundamental right of the press. Sir allow House or the Prime Minister §Tlould be di- me to ask whether a State Government or rected to get the matter investigated by C. B.1. Mr. Chautala or anybody else is much more Stringent action should be taken agair,st the powerful than the Parliament. This is the guilty persons. question I raise. Nobody is more "powerful than the Parliament and if you do not take a SHRI MADAN LAL KHUBANA (SoLJth decision and ask the Government to take a Delhi): Withdraw your support. particular action in this matter, I think you 419 Reported Disconnection JANUARY 8. 1991 Press, Faridabad 420 of electricity to Thompson shall be allowing oursetves to be denigrated t think, if we have any sense and respect for by an atl powerful man who is reigning in democracy, then this man behind this whole Haryana. episode should be arreSted. Is anybody worried about what is going on there? Who SHRI I.K. GUJRAl (Jallandhar): Sir, is worried about it? you were kind enough to give some attention to my adjournment motion yesterday. I S.ATfNDERPALSINGH: Mr. Speaker, thought when you rejected it, it was in the Sir, we hope that the assurance given by the light of the general opinion expressed in this Prime Minister in this House wiH be imple- House. This is a highly concerning issue. msilted very soon. The Prime Minister should Despite the fact that the electricity remains enquire as to why the assurance given by disconnected from the third of this month- him has not baen implemented so far. He today is the eighth and five days have should also ensure that the freedom of the passed-no action has been token. May I Press and media should not be bullied to urge you to call upon the Prime Minister to serve political ends. We must inculcate po- make a categorical statement here at 4 litical will power to maintain freedom of the o'clock, so that we will know who is at fault. Press because whichever Party comes into power it tries to prevail upon the Press. In SHRI INDER JIT (Darjeeling): Mr. fact there is a lot of difference between the Speaker, Sir, it is absolutely scandalous and words and deeds of the Members here. All a matter of grave concern that the Prime the Members who are oommitled to freedom Minister's solemn assurance has not been of the Pross should unanimously move a carried out. I would suggest that the Prime resolution condemning this reprehensible Minister should, before the House rises for act. the day, tell this House what action has been taken for restoring power to tho and for PROF. VIJA Y KUMAR MALHOTRA: curbing all these anti-social and goonda The Hon. Prime Minister is not present in the elements in Faridabad. House. Vesta rday he had given an assurance in this regard and no other Minister is in a PROF. MADHU DANDAVA1E: You position to say anything about it, so what is say electric power othorwise it might be tho utility of carrying on with this discussion. misunderstood! The point put forth by Shri Advani has been " endorsed by all the members of the House. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY If the unanimous opinions of the House is (Katwa): What Mr. Bhajan Lal has said-the ignored it will really be a matter of shame for way he pointed his finger at a particular this Parliament. Let the Prime Minister be person, who is the General Secretary of the called, wherever he may be. He should tell ruling party Janata Dal (S)-we cannot take the House the action taken on the assurance. things very lightly. The Member who spoke Then only we wilt proceed further. alleging about this particular Leader of the Party in Government, is the member of the [English1 Party responsible for floating the Govern- ment. It is a very serious matter. This may be SHRt SAMARENDRA KUNDU the reason why the Government is paratysed (8alasore): Mr. Speaker, Sir. yesterday, on this particular question. Apart from that, when the PJ'lime Minister made a statement, the Prime Minister must come and make a if you could remember, I asked him something statement today as to what nctioll has been ,.bout the security of the workers. The Prime taken. Minister listened to me but did not reply to it. This morning, I have been receiving "tele- What I want to know is this: What action phone calls from the Thomson Press work- this Government is going to take against this ers and also HMS Workersf Union. They particular Leader or the Party in Government? said: "The police and other people are say- 421 RaportwJ Disconnection PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Press, Farldabad 422 01 electricity fa Thompson ing that, here the Prime Minister's ~rit does (Eng/ish] not run. here the writ-of the most unseen hand-of the former Chief Minister runs, SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA (Karnal): who is a close friend of the Prime Minister. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I hail from Haryana. I represent a constituency which is in Haryana, In the night yesterday. they have gone and I know how democracy is being throttled round in the colony and then hit every door in Haryana. You are talking of this press. and they shouted. "" you go to Thomson This is not the first instance of its kind. In the Press, then your dead body will be found." recent past. there were such instances: one Inside the office. all the workers are brave. in Sirsa, and another in Kurukshetra. If the and. therefore, they have taken a vow that freedom of the Press is not kept in view, and they will defend the freedom of the Press if the freedom of the Press is throttled like which this Government wants to muzzle. For this, I do not know where this democracy will the last five days, the Press is being run on go to. The matter is serious, and the whole a generator. The Prime Minister has done House is very much concerned. I would, nothing so far. I still appeal to you that you therefore, request you to ask the Prime kindly direct the Prime Minister to see that at Minister to take personal interest... (Inter· least the security of the workers is assured. ruptio.'ls) (Interruptions) I express my grateful thanks to all the Members who nre here. those who [ Translation] hnvo expressed their concern on this problem. SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI (Sonepat): Sir. discussion on this issue is going on since [ Translation] yesterday. I feel1he assurance given by the Prime Minister will definitely be implemented. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN (I IJjipur): I am associated with Press. The freedom of Mr. Speaker. Sir, the Members of d.r1 the Press should be maintained at all costs. The parties have expressed their CO(l(.;0f n over hon. members are taking only lop-sided view. this issue. I think no uS6fui purpo~0 will be ( Interruptions) served by calling the Prime Minister in the House as he is helpless in taking action [English] against the person who is believed to be involved in this affair. Sir, it will, therefore, be SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI ALI (Kanpur): proper that you give a ruling in the mattar and What is he talking about? (Interruptions) assure the House that action will be taken to guarantee the freedom of the Press. MR. SPEAKER: Mrs. A~. he also has a right to talk like you. SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA: Faridabad is just 20 kms. away from Delhi and a person sent from here to F aridabad [ Translation] can easily return here within an hour. (In- terruptions) Had tna plnee been ns far as SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI: When the Kanyakumari, we would have realised the agitation against Mandai Commission was helplessness of tho Government. VJtiat else ut its peak about 1 80 boys and g;rls committed can be expected ofthis Government hoodod self immolation and thair pictures were also by a Prime Minister who said yesterday that published. The people be10nging to ruling his Government could not deal with a matter, faction used brutal force against the dem· concerning an incident taking pJace 20 kms. onstrations. The manner tn which "Amar away from Delhi. It would be better if Prime Ujala" and "Aaj" are indulging in anti-gov- Minister comes to the House and states the .rnment propaganda, is not proper. (Inter.. action taken in this regard. (/nt9"Uptions) ruptions) It was reported that 2()..30 dead 423 Reported Disconnection JANUARY 8, 1991 Press, Faridllbad 424 of 9leclricity to Thompson bodies were found. The Prime Minister has ( Interruptions) openly said that it was not true that 100 dead bodies were recovered; (lntenuptions) only [English] 16 dead bodies were recovered. It has also been reported that hundreds of dead bodies PROF.MADHUDANDAVATE: laman ware thrown into the river. Let them quote a a point of order regarding the procedure. In singJe incident of this kind. This lopsided this House, it has always been the precedent discussion is, th8fefore, of no use utility. that, If any assurance is given by the representatives of the Government, if the member [English) feels agg' .eved that it is not being implemented, we have always raised the question MR. SPEAKER: Let us now hear the with the Speaker. Minister of Parliamentary Affairs. Shri Malaviya. MR. SPEAKER: I have already done that. ( Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I only [ Translation] remind you. Therefore, alii am saying is you kindly direct the Prime Minister that it should THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND be implemented and see that the assurance CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA- that is given by Prime Minister-you are the MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA custodian of the House-should be imple- PRAKASH MALVIYA): Mr. Speak~r, Sir, the mented. (Interruptions) freedom of Press is dear to everybody. It is dear to the Prime Minister and alc.;o to the SHRI l.K. ADVANI: Apart from the Parliament. poInt that has been raised by Oandavateji, may I point out that this maHer arose when a SHRt RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI formal Adjournment Motion was tabled by

(Jhansi): Mr. Speaker, Sirt what does this Dandavateji; and that Adjournment Motion word Idear' mean. In view of the feeling was not pressed. Adjournment Motion means expressed by the members and what has that we would like to censure the Government come to light the hon. Minister has been for its failure. But when the Govemment itself prefixing words Idear'. What does he exactly said that "no, we are keen to see that the mean by this word? (Interruptions) . Press freedom is guaranteed and we wilt intervene immediately." That Adjournment SHRISATYAPRAKASHMALVIYA: Sir, Motion was not pressed because the Prime I would like to submit that the assurance Minister himself said it. given by the Prime Minister yesterday will be implemented in letter and spirit. (Interrup- Taking note of what my colleagues from tions) Tamil Nadu or from West Bengal have said, that in case there is a discussion, then we are It is against the rules to level ;'\ charge wilting to open the whoJe gamut of the Press against the person who is not presont in the freedom. And how it is being muzzled in Housetodefend himself. I, thoretore. request various States. Therefore, the matter cannot you to expunge all those remarks from the to closed by merely expressing oor views proceedings of the House which have been that the assurance given yesterday was not uttered against the person who is not a implemen1ed. Then it become,ObIigatory on member of the House. you either to permit the Adjournment Motion and let us have a discussion in the House or let the Prime minister or some one from 1he MR. SPEAKER: His name has not been Government come and ten us what has mentioned. happened since yesterday. and why this is 425 RtIpOttlld Disconnection PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) Press. Farldabad 426 of e1ectrlcilY to Thompson not being implemented. Either of the two Singh. he is an elderly Member of the House. courses should be taken into account. (In- terruptions) SHRI OINESH SINGH (Pratapgarh): An the sections of the House are agreed that SHAt VASANT SATHE (Wardha): Let freedom of the Press is of utmost importance. us have a'"discussion. That wilt be. botter. I Yesterday the Prime Minister also support this. emphasised that, when he said that he would ensure that the freedom of the Press is MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Satho, I think, the maintained. Therefore. there should not be Govemment is takins.J note of it. any need for any controversy on that issue. ( Interruptions) ( Intenvptions) [ Translation] PROF. MADHU OANDAVATE: I want that there should be a direction from the SHRI KALKA DAS (Karol Bagh): No Chairthatthe Government should imploment action has been taken upon the assurance the assurance. Why not straightway give a given in the House yesterday. (/ntenvptions) direction from the Chair that whatever as .. surance is there. Government should SHAI OINESH SINGH: At least listen to implement it? some body... (Inte"uptions)

[ Translation] [English]

MR. SPEAKER: Madhu ;;. the Gov- MR. SPEAKER: He is making a sub- ernment has not said that it will not be mission. Lodhaji, why do you not hear Mr. implemented. (Interruptions) Dinesh Singh?

SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Mr. SHRI OINESH SINGH: 'am saying that Speaker, Sir. since the House will be ad- the hone Minister for Parliamentary Affairs is journed after two days. If these things con- here. There should not be any difficulty in the tinue will the freedom of the Press be safe. Government making a statement before the House rises today as to what action they SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA; Delayed have taken In the matter. It is a straightfor- action will not be of any use. ward issue and I think there should be no objection from the part of the hon. Minister to MR. SPEAKER: The Prime Minister say that by the end of the day before the and the entire country is for freedom of the House rises, either the Prime Minister or the Press. It is a constitutional provision. The Minister for Parliamentary Affairs win make a I ~ouse also wants to maintain freedom of the statemont. There ;s no difficulty in that. (In- rress. The Prime Minister has given an tprruptions) assurance and we should bafieve him. { Translation} ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. [Eng/ish) ( Int9ffuptions) MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seats. Let us hear Mr. Dinesh Singh. [English]

(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: The Parliamentary MR. SPEAKER: Latus hear Shri Oinesh Affairs Minister i$ present here. He has taken 427 Reported Intel view giv9n JANUARY 8, 1991 Law & Justlctl to Financial 428 by Min. of Commerce & Min. of Tin18s, London about Taxation note of the feelings of the House in this accommodate this concept of rtberatisation. regard. Now, Mr. Speaker. Sir, this interview raises several very important questions about the

( Interruptions) very principle of collective responsibility t functioning of the Cabinet and who is the MR. SPEAKER: I would like that the spokesman of this Government. I mean, we Government would make a statement on have this Minister, some kind of a rv';nister, this issue before the House adjourns for the who goes abroad and make statements day today. regarding the policios of this country; giv~s an assurance that taxes which have been [ Translation] levied by one of his colleagues are the product of:t confu~ed mind and a panic reaction; and SHHI L.K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I gives an Clssurance that once he has nego~ would like to mention specifically that you tiated the IMF loan, he will gpt those taxes have given the apt Jirection. It will be better reversed. He also goes to say, "tccause my if an assurance for restoration of power is powers of convincing are so unparallel!ud. , also given. courd brirg Mr RajivGandhi and Mr. Chandra Shekhar together and tht"refore I will l11:lke Mr. Chandra Shekhar to give up nil hiS long heolthy commitment to socialism, etc. etc 12.34 hrs. and bring him to my way of thmking, to n.y understanding of liberallsat ion. "I think, these RE. REPORTED INTERVIEW GiVEN BY are very serious matters th

Subhashini Ali. Sir, you should give a chance said I •••••••••••• ' .. That wilt not go on record ... for me to reply ... (Interruptions) There is no use in allowing everybody to speak on a ( Interruptions) falsehood ... (Interruptions) It is totally falsG ••• ( Interruptions) SHRI JASWANTSINGH: Sir, the thild is that the vary same Ministor of the Union MR. SPEAKER: As a matter of fact, I Cabinet goes and con!ors with the Minister have given the floor to Shri Jasw~a)t Singh. of I~raol. Therefore, it is necessary for the GO'J~rnmfJnf to toll us whether it is the policy I ... (Interruptions) of the Government to have parleys with Israel. whether it is authorised by the Gov- ( Translation] elntnent. Fourthly, there has appsored a report in tl,9 newspapers that the very same MR. SPEAKER: After Shri Jaswant . Ministet "let with tho President of Afghani- Singh finishes his speech, I will aHow Shri stan. The fEtpott about th'.conversation wah Swumi to re(lct. ' the Prestdent of Afghantstan. whic~ I do not • •Cxpungod as ordered by the Chair. 431 Reported Interview given JANUARY 8,1991 Law & Justice to Rnsncfal 432 by Min. of CommMC9 & Min. of Times. London about Taxation want to repeat here. is highly objectionable recto Many atime t see that I have met people and hasgive'l a direction to the Government's whom I have never seen for the last few total foreign policy vis-a-vis Pakistan is in... months' WeU, this is the condition of report- valved. These are all very serious matters ing in some of the newspapers. and I would like to know the fads ... (/nteT- ruptions) About one thing, which is of serious nature according to my friend Shri Jaswant SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI ALI: Mr. Singh. that Dr. Subramaniam Swamy met an Speaker. Sir, I will request the Prime Minister Israeli Minister in Brussels. the f act is that to yield... (/ntsffuptions) there was a dinner or lunch where all the Ministers are invited, and India and Israel MR SPEAKER: Pleasetak-=- your seat ••. alphabetically have nearby seats ... (Inter- ruptions) If this is the attitude I cannot help. ( Intsffuptions) If certain people are suffering from this type of malady, I cannot help them. I just give THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI them the fact that if such a situation was CHANDRA SHEKHAR): Mr. Speaker, Sir. I there. Mr. '~-aker. Sir, give your direction did not hear the full speech of my friend that even if such a dinner or lunch is there in Jaswant Singh but alt these matters were international conferences. the Minister will brought to my notice on one occasion or the walk out from that place. That position has other. I got them enquired from Dr. not been taken by the Government of India. Subramaniam Swamy and in most of the I assure you, Mr. Speaker, that about the cases, or I I mllY say. in a!1 the cases he collective responsibility of the Government denied having made any such statement. .. we shall observe it and any Minister erring on ( Interruptions) that account will not be spated. So, I assure you that nothing wrong has been done by my MR. SPEAKER: Let us hearths Prime Minister, Dr. Subramaniam Swamy. Minister. You should not interrupt the Prime Minister. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Janardan Yadav.

SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Sir, I ( Int9"uption.~) shall leave it to your judgement that if the!'a . matters of suoh serious nature come to the MR. SPEAKER: I will not allow any notice of any Member. is it not necessary discussion on this. I close the diSCUSSIon that he should give a notice to you and the after the P,ime Minister's reply. Now, Mr. Minrster concerned or the Government Janardan Yadav. concerned should be asked to explain the position? Without verifying the facts. just on ( Interruptions) the veracity of the newspaper reports, if this type of allegations are made in the House, it MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing Cl will be very difficult for me to explain the def:late on this. Mr. Janardan Yadav. position. .. (Interruptions) ( Intsrruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Nirmal Babu, please take your seat. MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Mr. Indrajit Babu.

SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Sir, I ( IntfJ"uptions) shall not like to $ay anything about the re- porting in the n~W'spapers because I firmly SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA (Midnapora); I have faith in the independence of newspa- was listening very carefully to the Prime pers. But may I vary humbly submit to this Minister. AU that thQ Prime Minister has said House that aU 1he time reports are not cor- is. very often newspapet reports are not 433 Reported Interviewgiwln PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA)Law.t·Justice to Financial 434 by Min. 01 Commerce & Min. 01 Time., London about Taxation correct. That is what he has said. That does MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Janardan Yadav. I not specifically answerthis question whether have called Mr. Janardan Yadav. this interview which is given to Financial Times ..• (/nterrt.ptions) (/ntenuptlons)

[ Translation] SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNOU (aalasara): ~r. Speaker. Sir... (IntfHTllplions) MR. SPEAKER: H. is saying that the raport which has appeared in the paper is not MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. correct. Mr. Kundu I have not permitted you. I have permitted Ut. Janardan Yadav. I am not [English] hearing you.

SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: I cat- (/ntemJptions) egorically said that Dr. Subramania .... Swamy has disowned what has appearAd in the MR. SPEAKER: That issue is closed. paper ...... (Int9rruptions) If they want to run The Speaker has closed that issue. Now, Mr. the House like this, letthem do. (Interruptions) Janardan Yadav. Mr. Speaker, Sir. as you said rightly, I say that Dr. Subramaniam Swamy categorically [r, anslationl said that ht; has n )t made any such stat9ment. SURIJANAROAN YADAV (Godda): Mr. SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI ALI: Which Speaker. Sir. Kala-azar has spread in the statement? districts ~ North B'ihar and West BengaL .. ( intemJptions) SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: About the taxation, about the IMF Joan and aU that [English] which you have said. I assure you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, the day I feel that any Minister MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kundu, please is not discharging his responsibility or col- take your seat. (/ntl~"uptions) lective rosponsibility in the Cabinet. that Minister will be taken to book. But that is not MR. SPEAKER: After the Prime the way that you pick up a man and go on Minister's categorical statement, the matter harping on this theme every day. That is not is closed. the method. (/nte"uptions) Mr. Speaker. Sir. some Members unfortunately try to be very ( Interruptions) aggressive without any reason on small questions. (/nt9ffuptions) [ Translation]

[ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I am consider your point if a notice is given for the purpose. SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI ALI: Youcan say anything about anybody? (/ntenuptlons)

[English] [English}

SHRt CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Mr. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY Speaker, Sir, there is something like etiquette (Katwa): Mr. Speaker. Sir, , am on a point of in the House and thatetiquette should aJso order. (interruptions) be observed. Throwing up arms in the air does not IndicAt. a very brave posture. MR. SPEAKER; Mr. Kundu, please go 435 Reported Int.rvi.w given JANUARV 8. 1991 Law & JustiCfl to Financial 438 by Min. of Commerce & Min. of Times, London about Taxation to your seat. Mr. Saif uddin Choudhury is on (English} a point of order. SHRI L.K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker. Sir. I ( Interruptions) think Mr. Indrajit Gupta has made a vety valid point. (Intenvptions) SHAI SAIFUODIN CHOUDHURY: Sirl- after what the Prime Minister has said on this MR. SPEAKER: I can only hear the particular newspaper report, what we demand Leader of the Opposition. is a concrete denial on this particular reference in the •Financial Times' of 27th De- ( Interruptions) cember, 1990. Otherwise. it becomes vague; may be this correspondent has the tape- MR. SPEAKER: What is happening recorded interview with him. Let him con- here? This is not the way. This is not the way. cretely deny this. (/nte"uptions) Please go to your seats.

MR. SPEAKER: I do not know tholt. You (Interruptions) give a notice on this; I will see. But there is no point of order. MR. SPEAKER: All of you please tdke your seat. I would request the han. Memoers (Interruptions) to take their seats. Mr. Kuppuswamy, take your seat. SHRt INDRAJIT GUPTA (Mktnapore): Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is not the first time in (InterruptIons) Parliament that newspaper reports have been challenged on the basis of their veracity. The [ Tran~l:1t;onl point is, I do not question the Prime Minister's right to speak on behalf of his colleague. But MR. SPEAKER: Please tcake your seat. the fact remains the Minister concerned IS I would like to tell all of you ... very much here in the House. Along with what the Prime Minister has said, it is in the (Interruptions) fttness of things that the MinistG:" himsetf should make a categorical denial. (Inter- [English] ruptions) Secondly, if the whole report has been concocteo by the I Financial Tim9s', are MR. SPEAKER: I am on my legs. Will you going to allow things to go on like this? you please take you.r sQat?

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Indrajit Gupta, (Interruptions) Suhashiniji raised the issue of colledive responsibility. So. rt is in the fitness of things MR. SPEAKER: I have also listened to that the Prime Minister has responded to it. you. You know the parliamentary custom. It does not behove of you to come to the well (Interruptions) of the House for that. You are completely wrong in that course. [Translation] ( Int9rruptions) SHRI IN DRAJ1T GUPTA: If this report IS not correct than some action must be MR. SPEAKER: Take your seat. Mr. taken agatnst this paper or you intQnd to let Kuppuswamy. please take your seat. You them go scot·free? Report it to the Press should behave in an orderly "anner. This is Council. Why don't you ask for an explana- Lok Sabha. You take your seat. tion (lnterruptiol)s) call them and ask them. (/'I.errupllonc;) ( Intenvpr/ons) _ ~ lntMttJ-fIWm PAU$A 1St 1012 (SAKA}La_~ Ju,t/I» to Financial 438 by IJIIn. «f)ommert» &MIn. 01 Time', LontJon about Taxation

Mfil SPeAKER: Mr. Jena. Why do you tAR. SPEAKER: t am not, I am only rise ~ this? t am notgfYing Y.fMrmission. going to hear him. Take your seat. , hav.not pMnltted you. SHRIVASANTSATHE: Altowinghimto (Interruptions) ralse means, you are aUowing him on tho same is cue. Th()n, everyone in 1he House { Translation] will have ,0 bt... anowed. That means, your ruling will have no sanctity. I would like your SHRiJAGPAL SINGH (Hardwar): Are ruling on it, whethEtr you wouJd aHow a par- you going to allow ten membEjrs from the son to raise the same? some party. ( Translation] ( Intsrruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I still stand by my [English] ruling. After the Prime Minister I want to hear the views oftha Leader of the Opposition. MR. SPEAKER: Vas, Mr. Advnni. SHRIHARISHRAWAT(Almora); When ( Interruptions) the Prime ~1lnister has already given a reply the matter should be treated AS closed. [ Trans/ation] MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. MR. SPEAKER: I have heard the views of the Prime Minister I must hear what the (Interruptions) Leader of the cpposition has tl.) say. 13.00 hr•. ( Intsrruptions) [English] SHRIJAGPALSINGH: ThistOf,JicshouJd be changed. The Prime Minister has already SHRI VASANT SATHE: Your ruling given a reply. heteafter wiU not have any meaning if you allow them to speak. [English] SHRI L.K. AOVANI: I am only making SHRI K. MANVENORA SINGH one observatloA namely, that I think that the (M:lthura): You should not allow him on the pO:t1t raised by Shri Indrajit Gupta is vc.'llid. On same issue. this issue, there were objections raised. Why I say that it was vatid is because in the issue ( Interruptions) raised by my coUeagU9 Shrimati Subhashini AU. .. (/nt~rruptions) SHRf VASANT SATHE (Wardha): Mr. Specnker, Sir, I .otm on a point of order. It is a MR. SPEAKER: My ruling Is firm. He is about Speaker's ruling. On a particular .s .. not questioning the ruling. sue-if it IS correct, kindly v.tify your own rUUng-you said, after the Prime Minister SHA. l.ft ADVANJ: There are two gave a reply on behalf of his eo*'e~ue. with aspeots involved in this. One is the veracity that .. the matter is olosed. These are you, of the ttQpOrt. The other is the question of words. coUect'iv. ~_ponsibinty. (/nttlrruptions) They are continuing to di;rupt me.

I MR. St'SAkER! thaw. 9.v." the ruling. 439 Reported Interview glvtHI JANUARY 8, 1991 Uiw & Justics to Financial 440 by Min. of Commerctil & Min. of Times, London about Taxacion , SHRI L.K. ADVANI: I am not question- MR. SPEAKER; I will allow you also. I ing the ruling at all. told you. No rules are going to be broken If the Speaker allows him so speak. [ Translation) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Hon'bla Members are requested to take their seat. I am firm on my MR. SPEAKER: Please remember. I ruling. had allowed Shri Oinesh Singh to make a submission on my ruling. I recall that I allowed [Eng/ish] Shri Dinesh Singh and the House heard him with pin-drop silence. At that time. he did not SHRI B. SHANKARANAND (Ch,kkodi): question the ruling. When you say this matter is closed, please do not allbw it to be reopened. (Interruptions) • (Interruptions)

[ Translation] l\lIA. SPEAKER: You cannot dictate to the Speaker like that. SHAI MADAN lAL KHURANA: Mr: Speaker. Sir, I would like to tell you that if it (Interruptions) continues like this nobody would be able to speak in the House infuture ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Mr. Primp Minister. I have allowed the Prime Minister to speak. [English] [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: The leader of the opposition gets precedence and, therefore, I SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Mr. am allowing him. Speaker, Sir, ordinarily there should be no discussion after your order to the effttct that SHRI VASANTSATHE: Is he not bound the matter is closed. But since you have by the rules? called the honourable leader of the Oppo- sition. I would request the House that the MR. SPEAKER: I do not know what Shri SpeakAr .•• (Interruptions) Advani is going to say. let us hear him. I have submitted at the very out set that SHRIVASANTSA1 HE: You have heard ordinarily this should not happen but since him. He is reopening the same subject. you have given the d!rection and in view of ( Interruptions) the dignity of the office if you say that the Leader of tho Opposition should bA allowed [ Translation} to speak, we would definitely say that this is against the tradition. All the same we should MR. SPEAKER: I would like to tell the accept and obey your verdict. I would request Hon 'ble Members that there is no violation of the House to obey your order and listen to the rules. So please be seated. Let me hear the leader of the Opposition. (Interruptions) Shri Advani first. [English] [English] SHR1 L.K. ADVANI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have risen only to emphasise that in this SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY particular case two aspects have arisen from (Hoshiarpur): He cannot get precedence. what Smt. Subhashini Ali and what Shri Jaswant Singh have mentioned. One relates (/nt9"uptiuns) to collective responsibility and about which 441 RtIPOtf«i Interview given PAUSA 1e, 1912 (SAKA)!aw & Justicfl· to Financial 442 by Min. of Commerce & Min. 01 TImBs, London' about Taxation the Prime Minister has replied. He has very [Eng/ish] rightly said that if there is any deviation from this principle of collective responsibility, he Because I cannot move privilege mo- shaH see to it that 1he Minister who errs in th1s tion against the Governm,nt as the Prime regard is salutarily dealt with. The second Minister has informed the House ... (Inter- aspect is very important and which I beJiev9 ruptions) only Shri Swamy can really meet with i.e. whether this Report is COrrect or not. I am [ Translation) referring only to Smt. Subhashini Ali's mention of the report in the Financial Times... (In- MR. SPEAKER: It is for him to deny or terruptions) So far as this House is con-' not. earned, one ofth~ biggest, important devices that Parliament has to ensure thattruth comes SURI LK. ADVANI: The veracity of this out is its rig ht to punish for breach of privilege report is very much in doubt. And I would like and contempt. to move a privilege motion against the Fi- nancial Times. When the Prime Minister says... (In- terruptions) MR. SPEAKER: That you can do.

[ Translation] SHRI L.K. AOVANI: Thare have been cases in the past where either the paper is MR. SPEAKER: That will be looked into responsible or the Minister is responsible. after notice is received. let Mr. Swamy deny it so that if we want we can move privilege motion against the paper. [English1 ( Interruptions)

SHRI L.K. ADVANI: I am not saying [ Translation1 that... In this case, the Prime Minister has told the HOUSG that he has been told by MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. Swamyji that the Financial Timc~ report is not correct. This is something outside tJ:le (English] House. I would like Mr. Swamy to inform the House... (Interruptions) No discussion on this. Please let us close this. I will consider if you give notices MR. SPEAKER: No. no. I will not allow. on this. I call upon Shri Janardan Vadav to speak. ( Inteffuptions) ( Interruptions) SHRll.K. ADVANI: We want to know whether this reporter has misled. (Interrup- SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE tions) (Bolpur): Shrimati Subhashini Ali has referretj to this interview... (/nts«uptions) [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I will talte into consid- MR. SPEAKER: Whatever has hap-- emtion if you give notice on this. pened is ~ utfici6 nt for the present. It will be considered after you give in writing. (lntetruptions)

SHRI LK. AD VAN I: lean not movetha MR. SPEAKER: Somnathji. if you give Privilege Motion unless Mr. Swami dnnias it. notice, I wiH consider It. I am rlot allowing a (/nten'uptions) debate on this. 443 R9pOfted Int91'Vi6wgivsIl JANUARY 8,1991 Law & Justice to Financial 444 by Min. of Commef'C9 & Min. of Times. London about Taxstian

( Interruptions) districts of Bengal Kala-az&r disease is spreading like witd fire. Kala-azar has taken SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: I may tell lives of five thousand people in North Bihar the han. House that the policy of the Govem- and more than one lakh people are suffering ment is decided by tha Cabinet and an- from the disease in Uttar Pradesh. Medicine dorsed by the House. Individual statements for curing Kala-azsr is not available in the do not maka the policy of the Government market. The cost of an injection ranges from and you should not be over-exercised over three thousand to four thousand rupees in this issue. black market. Central as well 8$ the Sl&e Governments have taken no steps to eradicate this disease. I wish the Central Gov- ernment to send a team to Bihar without any SHRI SOMNA TH CHA ITERJEE: They delay to investigate jnto the causes of the should deny it. This roport is not being denied. disease and to take steps to eradicate the We appreciate the statement of the Prime disease aftar ascertaining the causes for the Minister as the policy statement of the same. (/ntenvptions) Government. But that does not answer whether this intflrview to the Financial Times [English] was given by him or not. Ask him to reply. SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU ( Interruptions) (Balasore): I want to raise a point of order Sir. MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing a debate. Shri Vadav. MR. SPEAKER: Ves, Mr. Kundu, what is your point of order? Which rule has been ( Interruptions) violated?

MR. SPEAKER: Shri Indrajit Babu, I SHRI SAMARENDRA KUNDU: Every- have :llraady given fl ruling. You give notices, day tho Prime Minister is bringing new things. I will consider it. 1haveg!'/Ana ruling already. MR. SPEAKER: No, I elm not allowing ( Interruptions) a discussion on this. My ruling is clear.

MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing any ( Interrupiions) further discuss:on on this. [ Translation] ( Interruptions) ·SHRI C.K. KUPPUSAMY SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR: There is (Coimbatore): Hon. Speaker, Sir, with tha a limit to everything. imminence of war in Gulf. several families belonging to Tam iI Nadu and employed in ( Jnterruptions) Kuwait have fled that country to India. They have come by motor transport. They do not have any further money. They do not f lave petrol for performing further journey. These [ rr:tn$/..:llion] TamilfamiHes have been languishing in Delhi in inclement weather for the past several SHRIJANARDANYAOAV(Godda): Mr. days. Their lives have tabe saved. Thfs is my Speaker, Sir, in 29 districts of Bihar and 9 humble demand in this august House. These

'"Translation of the Speech Originally Delivored in Tamil. 445 Reported interview given PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) Law & Justice to Financial 446 by Min. of Commerce & Min. of nm.s, London sbout Taxation famnies are permanently resident at Trichy. makes a statement on the situation. (/nte,., Tirupur, Tindivanam, Thanjawr, Coimbator. ruptions) and TirunelveU. They have to tra'Jel a long distance to their native places. This Govern .. ( Translation] ment should provide necessary financial assistance to these families. These T emil MR. SPEAKER: iam seeing ycur raised families are having the currency of Kuwait hands. , would give opportunity to evttry- and this Government is not helping them body. Shri Nathu Singh. with Indian currency in exchange. I, there· forc. once again urge upon this august House SHRI NATHU SINGH (Oausa): Mr. to safeguard the intere~t of the Tamils and Speaker, Sir, today the world is passing their honour. I had been in this House last through a very grave crisis. According to time and I am here for the second time now press reports America has decided to attack and I would therefore request the Prime Iraq on the 30th January. Iraq has also Minister and the Government to rush nec- alerted its forcas and also threatened to set essary assistanr.e to these helpless T ami! the oil wells on fire. Such a situation has families who have fled Kuwait. never arisen before. If that happens and war breaks out, a situation would be created in the world that never happened before, not (English] even during the second world war. A few days ago, the Iraqi foreign Minister had come SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- here and' met the Prime Minister. As this lem): Yesterday in the SAC it was decided House is in session, this House and the that we wO'Jld have, after the price rise country want to know wh::lt role India IS discussion today, tomorrow disclission on playing being the leader of the non-aligned Punjab and the day after discussion on the countries. as our economic and many other Gu!f t~uatioll.ln today's nawspaperwe have interests are affocted by this situation. In seen comments th()t financial emergency view of the oU Crisis baing faced by India, I under article 360 nlay come into being as· would like to know what initlativQ hns been sentially because of the Gulf sttuation. the takan by the country and its Prime Minister to crisis in the Gulf and its impact on th~ avert this war? ThA House should be informod economy. in this regard. (Interruptions)

Mr. Speaker, it concerns not only the [English1 Government but you also. I have already brought it to the notice of the Government on SHRIA. VUAYARAGHAVAN (Palghat): the floor of this House through you that the Sir, we have already expressed the feeHngs Gulf situation is extremely serious; a war is of the people of Kerala. We are repre~enting on the anvil anything may break out; the a State from where about two mittion people economic catastrophe and al$o the envi- are working in the GuH. When the Kuwait ronmental d'lnl3ge may take place. On the issue came up here, tha previous Govtlrn- world as well as the Indian economy in terms ment has taken initiative and evacuated more actually what is going to happen. we wanled than one lakh people from Kuwait. Now, the to have a slatt=lment from the Government. situation is moro worse and if something No statement has comQ forth. In the BAC it· happens in Kuwait in the near future. it will was decided to have tha discussion on the adversely affect the people of Korala more Gulf situation inlmediateJy after the discus- than anyone in any other State in the coun- sion on Punjab. However, the BAC report try. Kerala peopf9 are facing more problems. has kept it last and it would not reach. So I From my locafity, one person from each WOuld request the Speaker and the Hcuse houselfamUy is working in Staudi Arabia. If that we take up the discussion on the Gulf war breaks out. it wfil adversely affeet aD of crisis first and ensure that the Government them. I request tn. the Govemment should 447 Reported Interview given JANUARY at 1991 Law & Justice to Financial -448 by Min. of Commerce & Min. of Times, London about Taxation come forward with a statement and take ( IntemJptions) some initiative in this regard. 1 also want an assurance regarding the safety of the lives of MR. SPEAKER: Let uS hear Mr. Atirlder the people who are living there. (Interruptions) Pal Singh.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Interruptions) (Bolpur): Sir, this Session of the House is coming to an &nd on the 10th of this month, MR. SPEAKER: Will you please take i. e. day after tomorrow. Si(. although we find your seats. from the report of the Business Advisory Committee which has been tabled yester- (Interruptions) day, that the Committee has decided to discuss the Bofors issue, no date has been SHRI ANBARASU ERA (Madras Cen- fixed as yet. Therefore, it is 9;:,sential to fix a tral): Sir, this is a letter written by LTTE to date. It is a very important issue. The de· •Tharasu'. velopments that are taking p1ace are most disquieting. The scandal of the century is ( Interruption's) sought to be covered up. Therefore, I request that a date be fixed for the purpose of having MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing you. a discussion on Bofors issue. You are all having your say everyday. Now, Mr Atinder Pal Singh. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) SHRI DINESH SINGH: Mr. Speaker, Sir. you woulJ have seen from the Press MR. SPEAKER: "pertains to the State report this morning. that the hone Prime Government. You know the rules of this Minister has made a categorical statement, House in this regard. establishing linkage between the LTIE and the ULFA. He has also stated that the ULFA ( Interruptions) people have been getting training in Tamil Nadu. (Interruptions) Bearirlg in mind the MR. SPEAKER: It is not proper to do seriousness of this linkage between the like this. disruptive elements and a foreign element in Tamil Nadu, it is incumbent on the Govern- ( Interruptions) ment to take some actions. Meroly the Prime Minister's acceptance that there is linkage 13.25 hr•• and that anti-India activities are being carried out in Tamil Nadu is not an end in itself. At this stage, Shri Muthiah and some 01"" (Interruptions) I would like to know from the Hon. Members came and stood on the Prime Minister as to what steps is he taking floor near the table and what is it that is holding up the dismissal of lh~ Tamil Nadu Government. (Interrup- (/nttm'Uptions) tions)

MR. SPEAKER: Now, Shri Atinder Pal MR. SPEAKER: You go to your ..at. Singh. ( IntsmJptlons) ( IntB"uptlons) I am not permfttlng you. MR. SPEAKER: I have not allowed anyone except Atindet Pal Singh. 449 Reportsci lnf9rvitWI given PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) LaW & JustfOe to Financial 450 by Min. of Commerce & Afin. of TImes, London about Taxation

You cannot say like that. Speaker Sir. duo to rise in the water level of Tagri river in the Oevlgarh block of my con- ( Interruptions) stituency, 46 villages of the Munrenari area arc thrtlatened by floods. The roads and Please go to your seats. crops have already submerged. Roads and crops in more than 26 villages of Deva.. Bassi ( Inte"uptions) block have also submerged due to flooding of the Ghaggar rive. I request the Gove'rnment I am not accepting the cassette. that proper arrangements such as construction of drainS for flushing out water ( Interruptions) diversion of water etc., may kindly be made immediately to control the recurring floods In Please go to your seats. these rivers. Tagri and Ghaggar rivers which enter Punjab from Haryana should be ( Interruptions) properly bunded to. control the:- floods.

MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on MR. SPEAKER: What are you reading. record. There is no nsod to read you are an old M(;mber, spoak whenever you want to ~"ly. ( Int9"Uptions) * S. ATINOER PAL SINGH: We are not MR. SPEAKER: You are not required allowed by the Members to speak. (inter- either to bring or to play the cassette. ruptions)

( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You kmdly speak, do not read. No, I am not permitting. S. ATINDER PAL SINGH: Mr. Speaker ( Interruptions) sir. more than 46 villages in tnl') Dsvigarh block have been submerged. Crops and I cannot do that. roads have also been damaged due to floods. Likewise,flood waters of the Ghaggar River ( Inten-uptlons) have entered more than 26 viUages in the Deravati block and crops nave been dam~ I WDuld request Mr. Dines~ Singh, who aged. t request the Government to make is a senior Member of the Conores8 Party. proper arrangements to control floods whi~h This is the scene that can be created every cause damage in these areas every year. s8CX)nd in the House. Drains ShOUI~ be construded in both these areas to divortthG water flowi ng from Haryana into Punjab and proper bunding of these river should be done. 13.27 hr•.

At this stage, Shrl R. Muthiah and ,ome oth., hOD. Members went back to theit [English) $.ats SHRI C. SRtMtvASAN (DlndiguO: Sir, [ Translation) this a very ..tiot,l$:~blem. You please direct the Partt\tnwnt~ Affairs Minister to S. ATINDER PAL SINGH (Patiala): Mr. ,epty to our pof~\, '\ " , I

-Not recorded. 451 Reported Interview given JANUARY 8, 1991 Law & Justic9 to Financial 452 by Min. 01 CommerC9 & Min. 0" TimBs, London about Taxation

MR. SPEAKER: I will not direct him. SHRI GULAB CHAND KATARIA Please take your seat. (Udaipur): Mr.·Speaker Sir, There ;S, in fact, an acute scarcity of water in Rajasthan. ( Interruptions) Rajasthan canal was constructed after great efforts over long years and huge expendi- SHRI SHOPAT SINGH MAKKASAR ture of at least 2,000 crores of rupees. But (Blkaner): Mr. Speaker, Sir, j have got a with the Increase in the terrorist activities newspaper in which a nawsreport has come during the last ten years. the terrorists have that the terrorists in Punjab have threatened always been threatening and also harming the irrigation Department officials with dire the interests of Rajasthan. Rajo.sthan has consequences and punishment H they re- not been getting the quantum of water as per lease water into the canals such as Rajasthan the 1981 agreement and that water was canal, Gang canal and Bhakhra canals irri- used and is being used forcibly by them on gating 40 lakh acres of land in Rajasthan. A' the plea that it would not be utilised in diktal' to this effect has been issued. Rajasthan. After the agreement of 1981, another agreement was entered into in 1984 Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to point out that but Government have never safeguarded it is a serious matter. The activities of the the interests of Rajasthan under pressure. terrorists used to be very limited i.e. these were limited to killing of some people. But A few days ago, the terrorists have now they are issuing Idiktats'.1 want to make again threatened that water would not be one thing very clear that these terrorists are given to Rajasthan. If Rajasthan is not given neither connected with the Sikhs nor with water, the people there would be have to others but they are colluding with Pakistan face great difficulties and the State would be and imperialist forces to hatch conspiracies adversely affected. 30 years Wer& spent on to spread unrest. Sir,lakhs of pRople not only the construction of Rajasthan canal. I request of Rajasthan but also of Haryana would be that Government should pay attention to this aff ected where lakhs of Sikhs are also living. problem as the terrorists have threatened 11 Government do not take it seriously and the Irrigation Department offtcials. The Head- take effective action against them. results works are under the control of Punjab and if could be anticipated. If water is not released water is not released from the Headworks, in the canals for 5-10 days, it would have the people of Rajasthan would have to face adverse effect. Keeping this in view, I would hardships. Government should take stern request that their activities should be aclion against the terrorists and ensure surply checked. Sometimes, they issue 'diktats' of water to Rajasthan. against the use of Hindi and sometimes again~t some other aspects. I warn that a MR. SPEAKER: Shri Indrajit Gupta very grave situation would be created as a resu~ of it. CInterruptions) (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Katana, I am not SHRI NATHU SINGH: There is an acute allowing you. Please do not rise time and shortage of water in Rajasthan. P6;tople are again. Please sit down. facing acute water crisis.

( Interruptions) ( interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Nathu Singh1i, please MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Nathu Singh, please sit down. Shri Makkasarji, Please sit down. sit down.

( Interruptions) ( Intsrruptions)-

·Not recorded. 453 Repoft9d Interview gil'en PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Lsw & JustiCftl to Financial 454 by Min. of Commsrce & Min. of Time., London about Taxation [Er.gl!shl Speaker, 1want to bring it to the notice of this House tnat the Prime Minilster of Pakistan MR. SPEAKE R: Nothing will go an Shri Nawaz Sharif has been repeatedly record. Shri Indrajit Gupta. making such statements which amount to interf£ring in the international affairs oftndia. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, I am only He has recently stated that Pakistan would making a small submission ... (Interruptions) continue extending its support to the extrem- I was just seeking your guidance because ists of Kashmir. This is a direct intervention the House is going to adjourn day after in our affairs. Despite repeated provocative tomorrow. You yourself had agreed ... (In- statements by the Prime Minister of Pakistan, terruptions) the Government of India has not expres~ed any resentment to Pakistan in strong terms. Sir, we all have every sympathy with the I would like to tell to the Government that Members coming from Rajasthan. They have despite open challenge by Pakistan by raised a matter which is naturally agitating making such provocative statements, we not only them but it will agitate other people have no courage to warn her that shE: will also. The Minister should have simply said" have to face dire consequences in case she that they are looking into the matter and they does not mend her ways. The Govemment will Sge to it that the interest of Rajasthan is of India should take firm stand against Pa- safeguarded. But he does not say anything. kistan at national or international level so He did not uttar a single word. that Pakistan could not dare to interfere in our internal affairs in Punjab or Kashmir. ( Interruptions) SHRI DHARM PAL SHARMA [ Translation] (Udhampur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, Iwantto urge upon the Government of India that more than MR. SPEAKER: Two Cabinet Minister 8 lakh Gujars and more than 1 lakh Godis are present here. residing in Jammu and Kashmir State should be declared as Scheduled Castes. Himachal [English] Pradesh is a hilly state and it has common border with Jammu and Kashmir Gujars and SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Anyway, the Bukarwals have already been declared submission that I was making was about Scheduled Tribes in that state. They are Punjab. Two days arA left. Some important. gr~Qt patriots and during 1965 Indo-Pak War unprccudented talks have taken place be- at the tima of infiltration by Pakistanis Shri tween the Prime Minister gnd Mr. Mann. You Moli showed rare bravery and he was had agreed in principle that we sho'uJd have awarded Padamshri. I would like to say that a discussion on it. The BAC has not fixed any Gujars and Godis residing in J & K should be time and any date for discussion on Punjab declared Scheduled Tribes &S they have and this House will adjourn Without knowing been declared in Himachal Pradesh. (Inter- what happened hetween the two. You nlust ruptions) fix up a date and we must have a discussion on Punjab. . SHRI BHOGENDRAJHA (Madhubani): Mr. Speaker, this is a serious matter due to ( Translation] which our country ...... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: We have thre& mor. MR. SPEAKER: PIE'ase be silent. days. Then we would have a ..• (Interruptions)

SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Our country Sf fAI JAG PAL SINGH (Hardwar): Mr. .t well as our noighbouring country Nepal 455 Reported Interview given JANUARY 8,1991 Law & Justice to Financial 456 by Min. of Commerce & Min. of Times, London about Taxation have to suffer great damage. A project report PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL for constructing the highest dam in the world (Hamirpur): Formerly. the Government of i.e. Kosi dam was submitted by our State in India used to provide 25 percent subsidy for 1981 ... (Interruptions) Since then unpreo- setting up industries in backward areas. The edented floods has affected our State in subsidy was stopped by Congress Govern- 1988 and 1987 also. The people residing .n ment during its last days, as a result of which the T arai areas of Nepal and also those in the industrial development of backward ar- North Bihar have been badly affected by eas has come to a grinding halt. When this flood and drought. They are fAcing power question was raised with the natienal front crisis. 30 lakhs KW electricity could be government. an assurance was given by the generated by one dam only. 70 lakh KW then Industry Minister that 25 percent sub- electricity would be generated in total by all sidy would be provided for setting up indus- the dams on Kosi river. I have written to the tries in backward areas. But no action nas Government of India in 1974 that it would not been taken by the Government in this regard be possible for us to utilise this electricity. I so far, as a result of which new industrial would I.ke to submit that political change has units are not boing set up in backward areas recently taken place in Nepal and the new like Himachal Pradesh and the construction Government that has assumed office there of Hotels has been stopped. I would like to will take up welfare measures for the devel- urge upon the Government of India to rein- opment of that country. and it is not within the troduce the facility of providing 25% subsidy means of that country to take developmental tor industrial development of backward arC'ns. measuresofthairown.lwould request to the Govemment of India that a dam be con~ DR. SHAILENDRANATH structed on Baraha area and if the dam is SHRIVASTAVA (Patna): Mr. Speaker, Sir, constructed in that area 50 thousand cases an information centre of Soviet Union is of water could be released to Cak.;ut1a port functioning in Delhi in which 170 journal!t;ts even during the dry season of April and May have been working, out of Wh1Ch the sorvices and even then there will not be any water of 40 journalists have boen dispensed with in scarcity. An agreement was made for oon~ an irregular manner without providing them structing dam in Sahara area on Kosi river. any compensation and applying the rutes of N~nther area on Bagmati river and in Pension and Grantuty to them. The Soviet Shirapani, Paywasher and Karnali areas on Union which daims herself to be a progressive K:lmla river. The Government has taken no state is silent and the Government of India is action in regard to this agroement. Execution also not exerting its pressure on that country of these project can do wonders by generating duE' to political reasons. These journalists power in abundance and provtding sufficient are nottreatedas employees of Soviet Union. water. Nepal is not only our neighbour but a Even the sc~les recommended by friend also. So I would like to know from the Bachchawat Commission are not applicc:1hle Government what steps are proposed to be in this case. This state of affaIrs is harming taken in this regard. In case proper steps are the interest of a large number of JOurnalists. nct taken it is feared that people will resort H we are not out to lodge out active protest to agitation .. It was assured ;n 1982 by the against it, the Prime Minister who stands for then late Shri Kedar Pandey. the Minister of freedom of Press, will remain merely a Prime Irrigation that talks would be held on political Minister and he won't be able to take proper level in this regard. But no talks havw so far care of the Press. liko USSR, India will been held and we are pointing an acx:using a8so ... finger towards Nepal. I was invited by Gov- ernment of Nepal in 1984 and I was their MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Shaitendra, now it quest. When Nepal has no hesitations in is too much. Please sit down. ho!ding talks, I would like the Govetnment to make a statement. DR. SHAILENDRANATH SHRIVASTAVA: 451 Reported Int9rviswgivsn PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Law & Justice to Financial 458 , by Min. of Comlnerce & Min. of Times, London about Taxation

I ~uld like to draw the attention of the PrilTle Durban. So I would like to know whether tvitnister and the Minister of External Affaire. there has been a change in our foreign policy to this situation (Interruptions) and whether Indian" cttizens can now visit that country. If that peoPle like Shri Amitabh MR. SPEAKER; Shri Nitish Kumar. Bachchan, Shreedevi and Kalyanje8 Anandji have visited that country in violation of the SHRI NITISH KUMAR (Barh): Mr. law of this land with which we do not have Speaker, Sir... any trade, industrial and cultur~1 relations, they should be strictly dealt with and their MR. SPEAKER: You may see me later passports should be Impounded by the on when tho discussion is over on this issue. Govemment The Government should also come out with a statement to indicate whether SHRI NITISH KUMAR: The earlier there has been a change in our10r&;gn policy Janata Oal Government had promised nd if not, the factual position in this regard. automony for Aakashvani and Doordarshan and accordingly V.P. Singh's Govornment [English] had brought this Prasar Bharti Bill to get it adopted in this House. As per the provision DR. BIPLAB DASGUPTA (Calcutta of the Bill, the Prasar Sharati Corporation is South): I am raising a very serious issue. You going to be constituted on 1 st April. but to this know that recently, the GAIT negotiations date, Government has not taken any step to have been concluded as far as Uruguay give it a concrete shape. In fat it is a Round is concerned and it did not succeed conspiracy to check the constitution of this because the United States wanted to impose Corporation and also to deny autonomy to economic colonialism on the rest of the world. Aakashvani and Doordarshan. As compared One of the architects of the American policy to the working of Rajiv Government, it is in GAIT was its main negotiator Mrs. Carla something more shameful that a small group Hills. I understand -that Mrs. Carla Hills is of people ruling this country which has not coming to India. She hDs been invited by our been recognised as such by your honour or Commorce Minister and I also have seen by the Election Comnllssion is being given a from the Press reports that our Commerce onp sided and higher coverage on the Minister is very much impressed by her. He electronic media. I would like to make a has been charmed by her and I have seen submission in this reoord that since a logis- some statements in the Press to that extent. lation to that effect has been iJ8ssed, the My warning is that we should be careful. I Government should go ahead as per its want to know ~hethel in the ne!]otiations original schedule to give a concrete shape to which will take place-when ::;he comes htll u, the proposed colporation. our interests are going to be compromised, or not. whether the economic sovereignty of SHRI RAM NAIK (Bombay-North): Mr. the country wUl be maintained, or not. (In- Speaker, Sir. I would like to bring an impor- terruptions) It Is a major issue. (Inte"uptions) tant matter to the notice of th is H04se through Pepsi Co. is functioning; the multi-nationals you. After our Independence we had decided are trying to come in. Are we to make com· not to have any relation with South Africa for promises in respect of our agricultural trade its orthodox, racial and anti-democratic atti- policy? The multi-nationals are coming in. tude. Even on a passport we cannot visit that There is the question of intellectual property country. But only 2-3 months back ""hen Dr rights on which all the Third World countries Mandela was here, he was given a warm have been fighting. On that, will there be a welcome in th~ country. It ~ also appeared compromise? There is also the issUQof multi in the Press that recently one ex-M.P. 9'" fibre agreement, on which there ara serious cine Star Shri Amitabh Bachchan was on a differences between USA and the other visit of South Africa where h., staged • countrlts of the Third World. t would like to number of programmes in Johansberg end know, for _amJlJe, wheth.r-Gov~mment is 459 Reported Intflrvi.w given JANUARY 8, 1991 Law & Justice to Financial 460 by Min. of Commerce & Min. of Times, London about Taxation taking enough steps to ensure that the eco- truth. (Interruptions) Government should do nomic sovereignty of the country is main- this. tained. (Ints"uptions) [ Translation] I would also like to know why she is coming here; why has she bean invited? SHRI DAU DAYALJOSHI (Kota): Quota of petrol and dieset for the city of Kota was DR. THAMBI DURAl (Karur): In this fixed on the basis of consumption of th~~B very House, a few minutes ago, our senior items during a period when the city was Member Shri Dinesh Singh raisad an im- facing communar riots followed by a small portant matter affecting the integrity of our period of curfew after a gap of three months. country, and the danger which we in Tamil Now it has been reduced further from earlier Nadu are facing. Even our Prime Minister level of 2130000 litres and 6046000 Htres of had given the information that there is link petrol and diesel respectively. It is also between ULFA and LTIe activities, and that something very unfortunate that in that last there are training camps in Tamil Nadu. month a cut of 156000 litres of Jjdtrol and Some of our Members had raisAd this matter 1339000 litres of diesel had been effected. It seriously. Therefore, what action is this resulted in a short supply of these items at a Government going to take in this matter? moment when it was required most by the ( Inte"uptions) farmers for their sowing session and they had to stand in two-three km tong ques to THE MINISTEROF PETROLEUM AND receive their supply. Even today the people CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PAr1UA- do not have any supply of these items. It is MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA only today that a person from that city came PRAKASH MAL VIVA): Government has 10 me to toll me that he could receive his taken note of H, Dnd we wilt tJke appropriate supply of petrol only hfter a wait of saven action. hours. Kota is not

SHRI KHEMCHANDBHAI SOMABHAI 14.00 hrs. CHAVDA (Patna): Recently, communal qisturbances and c.ommunal riots have receiving its supply of diesel and petrol from started in the State of Gujarat. Yesterday, Kandla. Earlier, it was decided that every according to the statsment of the Ministsr of month suppiyof 60 rakes would b~ given tf) State for HomA Affairs of the Gujarat Gov- Kota, but unfortunately-in tho last month, It ernment, five persons were killed; three in was merely 15 rakes of which 0:11, ' 2 rakes Ahmedabad and two in Baroda. Several have been received so far. In view of the people were injured. The communal riots in d~ficult situation in Kota, I WOUld, therefore, the State of Gujarat started in thp month of like to urge upon the Minister of Petroleum to March 1990, and they are continuing. When arrange the supply of allotted quantity forthis I visited a place affected by the r!ots, Lo. riot- city at the earliest. prone areas, I saw that two persons had been killed by private firing. There are sev .. MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Please sit dev'n. I eral pistols and revolvers. have noted your point.

MR. SPEAKER: Why do you go into details? It is not necessary to do it.

SHRI KHEMCHANDBHAI SOMABHAJ SHAI SANTOSH KUMAA GANGWAR CHAVDA: The Gujarat Government has (Bareifly): Mr. Speaker, Sir. today a large failed to suppress these communal riots. I number of peace klving people from Aligarh would like to submit, through you, that a have been staging .Oharna at the Boat CIUD judicial inquiry should be hald to bring out the in Delhi. 461 R~tfed Int.Mew given PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) P8p9fS Laid 462 by Min. 01 Commerc» 8.. Min, of Law & Justice to Financial TimBs, London about Taxation MR. SPEAKER: No, please speak on 14.03 hr•. sugar mills and not about Alig~rh.1 can't allow you to speak on it. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

( Int9"Uptions) Review on the working of and Annual Report of Indian Renewable Energy :J_,. SHAI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR: velopment Agency Ltd., Nayvell Lignite The Government has A.lready stated that a Corporation Ltd; Coal India Ltd. for 1989· thorOl'gh enquiry will be conducted into this 90 etc. incident,but recently when a sitting Member of this House and the Private Secretary to THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI the ex-Prime Minister were on a visit to KALYAN SINGH KALVI): I beg to lay on the Aligarh, the Sten gun of their body guard had Table- been snatched away from him. (1) A copy each of the following papers MR. SPEAKER: It means that you don't (Hindi and EnglisH vers;ons) under want to speak on sugar mills. sub-section (1) of section C19A of the Companies Act, 1956:- ( Interruptions) (a) (i) Review by the Govern- SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGV/AR: ment on the working of Sir, during the last three months, it was on t"he India'; Renewable three occa~ions that a curfew had been Energy Developm.:.nt clamped tllrer9. Agency limited for th& year 1989-90. MR. SPEAKER: You may see me tomorrow. Now pJease sit down. (ii) Annual Report of the In- dian Renewable Energy ( Interruptions) Development Agency Limited for the year 1989- SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR: 90 along with Audited I would like to urqe upon the Governm&nt to Accounts and oomments listen to the grievances of the people who of the Comptroller and are staging a dharna here in Delhi. They are Auditor General thereon. being harassed and their rights are bejng [Placed in library. See No. violated. Through you, I would like to request LT-1907/91] the Government to pay their immediate attention to this incident and also the hon'bla (b) (i) Review by the Govern- Minister may kindly make such an arrangement on the working of ment to ensure it that innocent people are the Neyveli Lignite Cor- not harass.ed and whatever is being done poration Limited for the against them, it stopped. year 1989-90.

( Int9"uptions) (ii) Annual Report of the MR SPEAKER: I have already asked Neyveli Lignite Corpora- you to seQ me tomorrow. tion Limited for the year 1989·90 along wit~ Au- dited Accounts and com- ( Interruptions) ments of the COtnptroller and Auditor Gonoral thereon. [Placed in Li- 463 Papers Laid JANUARV 8, 1991 PaptHS Laid 464

brary. See No.lT -19081 (Development) Act, 1974- 91] (i) The Oil Industry (Devel- (c) (i) Review by the Govern- opment) Amendment Rules, ment on the working of 1990 published in Notifications the Coal India limited for No. G.S.R. 762 (E) in Gazette the year 1989-90. of India dated the 7th Septem- ber, 1990 (ii) Annual Report of the Coal India Limited for the year (ii) The Oil Industry Devel- 1989-90 along with Au- opment Board Employees' dited Accounts and com- (Pension) Rules. 1990 pub- ments of the Comptroller lished in Notifications No. and Auditor General G.S.R. 917 (E) in Gazette of thereon. [Placed in Li- India dated the 16th Novem- brary. SeeNo.lT-1909/ ber, 1990. [Placed in library. 91} See No. LT-1911191]

(2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (2) A copy each of the fol- (H indi and English versions) of lowing papers (Hindi and English the Central Power Research versions) under sub-section (1) of Institute, Bangalore, for the sedion 6l9A of the Companies At. year 1989-90 along wIth Au- 1956:- dited Accounts. (a) (i) Review by the Govern- (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi ment on the working of and EngJtsh versions) by the the Madras Refineries Government on the working of Limited, Madras, for the the Central Power Resaarch year 1989-90. Instituto, Bangalore, for the year 1989·90. [Placed in li- (ii) Annual Report of the Ma- brary. Se~o. LT-1910/91] dras Refineries Limited, Madras forthe year 1989- Notifications under 011 Industry (De vel- 90 atong with Audited opmant) Act, 1974, Review In the working Accounts and comments of and Annual Reports of Madra, Refin- of the Comptroller and eries Ltd. Madras for 1989-90, Bharat Auditor General thereon. Petroleum Corporation Ltd. for 1989-90 [Placed in Library. See No. etc. l T-1912191]

[English] (b) (i) Review by the Govern- ment on the working of THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND the Bharat Petroleum CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLIA .. Corporation limited, for MENTARV AFFAIRS (SHRI SATYA the year 1999-90. PRAKASH MALVIYA): I bag to lay on the TabJe- (ii) Annual Report of the Bharat Petroleum Corpo- (1) A copy each of the fol- ration limited for the year lowing Notifications (Hind. and En~ 1989.. 90 along with Au- gUsh versions) under sub·section dited Accounts and com- (3) of section 31 of the OUlndustry ments of the Comptroller 485 Pap.rs Laid PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Papers Laid 466

and Auditor General Notifications under Railways Act, 1989 thereon. [Placed in Li· brary. S99 No.lT-19131 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 91] MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA CHARAN DAS): I beg to lay on the Tabla a copy each oftha following Notifications (Hindi (c) (j) Review by the Govern- and English versions) under section 199 of ment on the working of the Railways Act, 1989:- the Indian Oil Corporation limited forthe year 1989- (1 ). The Manner of Giving 90. Open Delivery and Prescription of Partial Delivery Certificate Form Rules, 1990 published in Notifica- (ii) Annual Report of the In- tion No.G.S.R. 942(E) in Gazette of dian Oil Corporation lim- India dated the 11 th December, ited for the year 1989-90 1990. along with Audited Ac- counts and comments of (2) The Railways (Disposal of Goods the Comptroller and Au- not Removed rom Notified Railway ditor General thereon. Stations) Rules, 1989 published in {Placed in Library. See No. Notification No. G.S.A. 554 (E) in LT-1914191] Gazette of India dated the the 7th June, 1990.

(d) (i) Review by the Govern- (3) The Railways (Punitive Charges ment on the working of for Overloading of Wagon) Ryles the Hindustan Petroleum 1990 published in Notification No. Corporation Limited for G.S.R. 558 (E) in Gazette of India the year 1989-90.. dated the 7th June, 1990.

(ii) Annual Report of the (4) The Railways (Manner of Delivery Hindustan Petroleum of Consignments and Sale pro- Corporation Limited for ceeds in the absence of Railway Receipt) Rules, 1990 published in the year 1989-90 along Notification No. G.S. R. 595 (E) in with Audited Accounts Gazette of India dated the 22nd and comments of the June, 1990. Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. [Placed (5) The Railway Rates Tribunal (Pro- in Library. S99 No. L T- cedure) Regulation. 1990 published 1915/91] in Notifications No. G.S.A. 600 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 26th (3) A copy of the Motor Spirit and High June. 1990. Speed Diesel (Prevention of Mal- practices in Supply and Dbtribu .. (6) The Passengers (Changes of tion) Order, 1990 (Hindi and English Names) Rules,1990 published in y~rsions) publish~d in Notification Notifications No. G.S.R. 708 (E) in No. G.S.R. 811 (E) in Gazotte of Gazette of India dated the 16th India dated the 25th September, August. 1990. 1990 under sub·section (6) of· section 3 of the Essential Com- (7) The Cessation of Responsibility modities Ad. 1955. [Placed in Li· (after the Termination of Transit) brary. Be9 No. l T-1916191 ] Rules, 1990 published in Notifica- 467 Papers Laid JANUARY 8, 1991 Papers Laid 468

lion No,G.S.R. 763 (E) in Gazette OHAKANE): I beg to lay on the Table :- of India dated the 7th Saptem.. b~r,'990. (1) A copy each of the follow.. ing papers (Hindi and English var- (8) The Disposal of Consignment sions) under sUb-section (1) of Rules, 1990 published in Notifica- sadion 619A of 1he Companies tion No. G.S.R~ 901 (E) in Gazette Act, 1956: of India dated the 12th November, 1990. (a) (i) Review by the Govern- ment on the working of (9) The Weighment of Consignments the National Thermal (In W~gon-load or Train-Load) Power Corporation Lim- Amendment Rules, 1990 published ited for the year 1989-90. in Notification No. G.S.A. 854 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 23rd (ii) Annual Report of the Na· October, 1990. tional Thermal Power Corporation Limited for (10) G.S.A. 855 (E) published in Gazette the year 1989-90 along of India dated the 23rd October, with Audited Accounts 1990 containing corrigendum to and comments of the Notification No. G.S.R. 615 (E) Comptrotler and Auditor dated the 3rd July, 1990. [~Iaced in General thereon. [Placed Library. See No. LT-1917/91] in Library. See No. LT- 1919/91] Coal Mines (Amendment) Regulations, 1990 etc. (b) (i) Review by the Govern- ment on the working of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Nathpa Jhakri Power MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BHAKTA Corporation limited, for CHARAN DAS): On behalf of Shri Ramji lal the year 1989·90. Suman I beg to lay on the Table :- (ii) Annual Report of the (1 ) A copy of the Coal Mines (Amend- Nathpa Jhakri Power ment) Regulations, 1990 (Hindi and Corporation Limited for English versions) published in No- the year 1989-90 along tification No. G.S.A. 550 (E) in with Audited Accounts Gazette of India dated the 6th June, and comments of the 1990 undersecHon 61 Aofthe Mines Comptroller and Auditor Act, 1952. General thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. LT - (2) A statement (Hindi and English 1920/91] versions) showing reasons for de- fay in laying the pilpers mentioned (c) (i) Review by the Govern- at (1) above. [Placed in Library. ment on the working of See No. LT-1918/91] the Power Finance Cor- poraticn Limited, for the Reviews on the working of and Annual Reports of National Thermal Power year 1989·90. Corporation Ltd. Nathpa Jhakr! Power (;i) Corporation Ltd. for 1989-90 etc. Annual Report- of the Power Finance Corpora- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion limited for the year MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI BA[3ANRAO 1989-90 along with Au- 469 Papers Laid PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Statts. Under Dir. 115 470

dited Accounts and com- 14.03 1/2 hr•• ments of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. [Placed in li- COMMITTEE ON PETITIONS brary. SeeNo. LT-1921! 91 ] Second Report

{English] Cd) (i) Review by the Govern- ment on the working of SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY the North Eastern Electric (Jagatsinghpur): I beg to present the Second Power Corporation Lim .. Report (Hindi and English versions) of the ited, Shillong, forthe year Committee on Petitions. 1989·90.

(ii) Annual Report of the North Eastern Electric Power [English] Corporation Limited, Shillong, for the year MR. SPEAKER: The House stands 1989-90 along with Au- adjourned for lunch to meet again at 3 P.M. dited Accounts and comments of the Comptroller 14.03 hrs. and Auditor General thereon. [Placed in Li- The Lok Sabha then adjourned for lunch brary. SeeNo. LT-19221 till fjfteen of the clock 91 ]

(2) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) Tile Lok Sabha re-assembled after Lunch of the Damodar Valley Cor- at four minutes past Fiheen of the Clock poration, for the yeDr 1988· 89 along with Audited Ac- [SHR' VAKKOM PURUSHOTHAMAN in counts under sub·soction (5) the Cha;~ of Section 45 of the Damodar Valley Corporation Act, MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Maheshwar 1948. Singh.

(ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi STATEMENTS UNDER DIRECTION 115 and English versions) "y the Government on thl? working Re. Reply to usa No. 4055 dated of the Oamodar Valley 4.9.1990 on Acquisition of land In Corporation for the year Himachal Pradesh for Military Transit 1988-89. Camp

[English] (3) A statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for de- SHAt MAHESHWAR SINGH (Mandi): lay in laying the papers mentioned Mr. Chairman, Sir. with your permission, I at (2) above. [Placed in Library. rise to make a statement under Direction 115 See No. LT-1g23/91] as undor:-

, I had addressed unstarred question No. 471 Statts. Und9f Dir. 115 JANUARY 8,1991 Statts. Under Oir. 115 472

[Sh. Maheshwar Singh] officer again visited the site and a meeting of the Board was held on 2 June at Palchan. 4055 to the Prime Minister on 9 April, 1990 But it is a matter of regret that tm date the and the reply to this question given by the formers have not been paid even a single then Minister of State in the Minister of penny. Rafere the land acquisition by the Defence is not based on facts. In his reply, army, a temporary bridge was used to be the Hon'ble Minister had stated that Govern- constructed every year on Seas river 00- ment had not issued any no1ificatiol'l rogard- t~een Phati Barua and Palchan by the ing acquisition of land and therefore, the Forest Department in order to facilitate question of giving any compensation to the farmers ta have access to their land but now farmers does not arise. But it is a fact that the this bridge has been constructed by the army Defence Ministry had initiaUy expressed its and army officers do not permit localsJarmers willingness to acquire 150 acres of land to and other persons to use this bridge. As a set up a Transit Camp in Phati Barua and result of which, farmers are facing difficulties Phatf -Palchan. Kothi Manafi. Distt. Kutlu. even in ploughing their respective fields. The Himachal Pradesh. but later on after visiting army has used bulldozers in the land acquired the site. the Ministry in its high level meoting by them and has thrown all the garbage into decided to acquire the land of farmers- the fields of the farmers resulting in destroying 372.16 Bigha in Phati Barua and 11 Sigha 3 the odjoining fields of the farmers. No action Binswan in Phati Palchan. This declsic;) was has been taken till now on the repeated tnken by the Dofence Ministry afterinspocting raquests made by the local people in this the sites and selecting the locations for this regard. purpose. Therefore. I request Hon'ble Prtme Thereafter. Himachal Pradesh Govern- Ministerto intervene in this matter and ensure ment had initiated action through Divisional justice to these poor farmers without any Commissioner. Mandi on 13.10.1988 for delay. acquisition of land under section 4 and the officers of the Defence Ministry immediately THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE acquired the land of poor farmers-38 Bigha MINISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI LALIT and 11 Binswan land in Phati Barua and 11 VIJOY SINGH): Sir, I rise. with your per- Bigha 3 Binswan land in Phati, ruin8d the mission. to make a statement of facts and .standing crops, apple orchard etc. The De- clariHcations in response to Hon'ble Shri fence Ministry officials had assured the Mahoshwar Singh's statement. farmers that Government would soon com- pensate them fully. After having the as- Due to operational necessity, 49 Bighas sessment of the loss of crops, Ro\ anue 11 Blsv:(ls of land was occupied by the Army officors submitted tho complete c~:;o to the :1.t Polchan in July, 1988. This fact has not Defence Ministry. bpen suppressed. There has been no intention, at any stage, of misleading the The Government of Himachal Pradesh Hon'bla Member. issued the notice under section 4 on 28 October, 1989 and its copy was handed over The proposal for the acquisition of land at Station Headquarters" Palampur. There- measuring 76.9348 acres of private land after, Station Headquarter. Paiamplir officer (which incJudes 49 8ighas and 11 Biswas of inspected this area during 2 to 4 May, 1990 land alreadyoccupied)andtransferof 155.05 and said that till the land acquisition process acres of State Government land for the es- is completed, Ministry of Defence would pay t~blishment of a Military Transit Camp at the ground rent of this land. The rovonue Palchan was at a preliminary stage at tho officers again handed over the full rE->lovant tirnewhen the Question asked by the Hon'ble records to Station HeadqJartor, Palarnpur Momber was answer&d in the Lok S3bha. At on 4 May t 1990. On June 1 , 1900 the $c.l}'1e that time. and even till today, sanction for tho 473 B.A.C. R."ort PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) B.A.C. Report 474 acquisition of the subject land has riot been I'That this House do agree with the issued. 18th report of the Business Advisory Committee, presented to the House on It is clarified that the process of acquisi- the 7th January, 1991." tion of land for Defence purpose com mences only after the Ministry of Defence issue [Eng/ish] sanction for the acquisition of the required land and a demand for the acquisition of the SHRI lOKANATH CHOUDHURY land is placed on the Collector by the con- (Jagatsinghpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have cerned Defence Estates Officer. The acqui- given a notice ... (lntorruptions) sition of land in the subject case is still under the consideration of the Ministry of Defence. MR. CHAIRMAN: But it is time barred please. You cannot move it just now. It needs being clarified that the State Government of Himachal Pradesh had, in SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: good faith, issued a Notification under Sec- There is no question of time barred. Many tion 4 of the LA Act, without awaitina issue of Members have given a notice for a discus- Government of India's sanction in th~ mat- sion under rule 193 about Orissa Floods, but t~r. The Defence Estotcs Officers, Jdlundhar, the Business Advisory Committee has not had requested the Deputy Commi::'~ioner, taken it into consideration. Kullu, to stop the acquisition proceedings until Ministry of Defence issued the requisite MR. CHAIRMAN: First of all, your notice sanction. is time barred. Secondly, you have asked for the inclusion of a new item. It is confirmed for the information of the Han. Member that tho due rent will be paid SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGAlAM (Sa- from the date the land was occupied by the lem): I have also given a notice, Sir. Army till the date it is finally acquired. The fixation and payment of rent is receiving MR. CHAinMAN: In your case also, tho Government's urgent attention. Business Advisory Committee has fixed the time of the Government business. You have As regards providing access through also raised some new point. So, it is not the rented land to the adjoining farmers, allowed. Government have asked for an immodiato report and effort shall be made to provide SHRllOKANATH CHOUDHURY: It is whatevor help is pr~ctlc .llly possiuttJ. a illolion before the House, Sir. I has gone in the form of u motion ... (Interruptions) I reiterate that there has never boen any attempt, at any stage, to provide incorrect MR. CHAIRMAN: Please hear me. The Information to the Hon'bla M ..,mber. It shall amendment to a motion for adoption of RAe be ensured that the concerned farmers are Repor1 could be moved to change allocation duly compensated, as per law. of time recommended by the Committee but new items of business could not be added 15.10 hrs. through amendment. BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ( Inte"uptions) Elght ••nth Report MR. CHAIRMAN: Please speak one by [ Translation) THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND one. CHEMICALS AND MINISTER OF PARLlA- MENTARV AFFAIRS (SUHI SATVA SHRllOKANATH CHOUDHURY: Sir, PRAKASH ~AAl VIVA): J hC'g to movo: we ha\lo {Jiven a notice under rule 193 to tho 475 B.A. C. Report J/\NUAHV 8. 1991 B.AC. Report 476

[She Lokanath Choudhury] Kumaramangalam. Here you can move amendments only for the fixation of time. Speaker. That should be placed before the That is alt. You cannot move amendments Business Advisory Committee. So, when the for the inclusion of new subjeds. list of business comes, we have a right to know why our business has not been taken SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: No, up. It is not a new item. The notice has bean that is not new subjed. It is the question of duly submitted. priority of subject. I repeat, it is not a new subject. I am not discussing a new subject, I SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): am talking of what has been actually ac~ The Parliamentary Affairs Minister must teU cepted. That is an error in the Report. I am this House, Sir. not bringing up a new subject. I am saying that what has been put as item 5 should have MR. CHAIRMAN: See your. represen- boen item 4. and what has been put as item tative was in the Business Advisory Com- 4 should havo been item 5 in so far as mittee. It was not raised there. What can I do Matters to be discussed under Rule 193 are now? concerned.

SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: I AN HON. MEMBER: What about sub- should know. Sir, where I am to raise it. I mission under Rule 377, Sir? have given a notice to the Speaker. Either the Speaker should say that it is ( Interruptions) rejected ... (Interruptions) SHRI SATYA PRAKASH MAlAVIVA: MR. CHAIRMAN: But every notice will Sir, the Leaders have taken this decision in not be accepted by the Business Advisory the Busin('ss Advisory Committee. Even then, Committee. You are a senior Member, you about the point raised by Shri must know all these things ... Kumaramangalam. I have no objection.

( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: What is your objf'ction, SHRI LOKANArn CHOUDHURY: Sir, Mr. Kumaramangalam? this IS not the private business of the Minister of Parliamentary Affairs. We have given SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALl\M: Mr. notico to the Speaker. So, when the matter Chairman, Sir, in the Report that is submitted under Rule 193 were discussed, you should before this House, they have listed four have placed it before the Business Advisory important subjects for discussion undor rule Committee, because we find that in Orissa 193, but unfortunately, the priorities have thero is a serious situation. We wanted a been set out. In the Committee meeting, I discussion. The Government has not given understand that the priority was: first price money and the people are living under the rise. then Punjab, then GuH and then Bofors. sky. We wanted a discussion here. But now what has happened is in the Report they have put Bofors ahead of Gu If. In the MR. CHAIRMAN: That is right. but this morning I had mentioned when Mr. Speaker, is not the proper forum. was in the Chair-the necessity to ensure that GuH comes up for discussion and, SHAI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: This therefore, the question is that the original is the proper forum. situation of Gulf being third be maintAined. That is all. MR. CHAIRMAN: No, you cannot raise MR. CHAIRMAN: That is 1;0!1l, Mr. it like this. 4n B.A.C. Report PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) B.A. C. Report 478

SHRllOKANATH CHOUDHURY: We in the Meeting, and it was unanimously de- are accepting your motion in which we are cided. approving what are all the items to be discussed. This is the only forum Sir. MR. CHAIRMAN: There is a difference between the two amendments by two han. Members. He is demanding for inclusion of a MR. CHAIRMAN: No. naw subject which is not in the Business Advisory Committee Report. So, it ;s not at all SHRI LOKANATHCHOUDHURY: Then admissible. The hon. Member may under· why this motion is before the House? When stand it. the motion has come, I have the right to move an amendment to include it. SHRI lOKANATH CHOUDHURY: I subjed it would be admissible, Sir. MR. CHAIRMAN: The hone Member may understand that he cannot move an MR. CHAIRMAN: No. amendment for inclusion of a new subject. SHRllOKANATH CHOUDHURY: How SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: I can. can that not be admissible?

MR. CHAIRMAN: No. you cannot. That MR. CHAIRMAN: I read the rule. is why I read the rule. You cannot raise that. It is not admissible. SHRI lOKANATH CHOUDHURY: No, Sir. It is a motion before the House. (Inter- SHRllOKANATH CHOUDHURY: No, rupt ions) There IS a motion before the House Sir, it should be approved for inclusion. It ;s to agree. We have the right to give our a motion. I will give my dissent to the motion amendment. otherwise. I have the right to domand a division. MR. CHAIRMAN: Not here. I will again read it. The Member may kindly hear. MR. CHAIRMAN: tt is not admif:sible, howcan you do it? Your amendment was not SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: admitted. then how can you move that have heard it. I know the rules. amendment here? ~1R. CHAIRMAN: Then why do you say (Interruptions) this?

PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE (Thane): SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: That Mr. Chairman. Sir, I wonted to refer to the is not the case. We are saying about a suggestion given by Mr. Kumaramangalam. subject which has been given notice of and Actually I was present in the Meeting of the which has not been included. The Business Business Advisory Committee and whatever Advisory Committ&e has not agreed to transpired there has been reported to the consider it. House correctly. So, the question about Gulf was to be discussed on 8th i.e., on the last day-it was decided unanimously in the ( Interruptions) Meeting-and Bofors will be rfi~cUSSt')d before that. So, whatever tran:?piu.:d i:1 the nusiness Advisory Committoo h 1~ belen MR. CHAIRMAN: Then how can YOll nghtly reported. Please accept it as It is. And raise that amendment which is not admis· It IS not aquestion whetherthe PClrliamontary sible? You agreed fhat it is not admissible. Affairs Minister wants it or not.ll is a quostion Then how can you proceed? Why do you as to whether it was decided unanimously waste the time of the House. 479 Matters under JANUARY 8, 1991 Rule 377 480

MR. LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: Sir, river on the Karala coast lying between the when he has moved a motion before the major ports of Mangalore and Cochin. House. that means the House has to pass it. This port has various advantages like MR. CHAIRMAN: That is why I have proximity to the broad gauge railway line and read that decision. You cannot move an the National Highway snd its natural location amendment to include a new subject. That is which make it possible to develop it as an aU the ruling. weather port.

SHRllOKANATH CfIOUDHUAY: No, lengthening of the dock. dredging, pro~ Sir. You put the motion. I will demand a viding drinking waterfacilities, elecll ic~ranes division. etc. are some of the immedi&tn requirements to deve lop thi~ Port. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV (Tripura VI/est): When It;5 notadmlss!~,I&, howcan hp. In view of the Importance of ti lti lucation ask for a division? of lnp. Azhikkal port, which can grea1Jy h01p the farmers of lhe hili In North Malabar c;llld MR. CHAIRMAN: Not that. He will ask the fisherman otc. to export their produc(' for division on the motion mCveJ by the nlore easIly, I request the Honourahle Min· Minister. 1 hat IS what he says. ister for Surlace Tran~fJort to give top priority for the development of this port. Now. the question is: (Ii) Need todeverop T3doba Nation&1 "That this House do agree with the Park In Chandrapur and Eighteenth Report of the Business 1\13rkanda Temple in Gadchiroll Advisory Committee presented to the district of Mahar.shtra, as tour- House on the 7th Ji.lnuary, 1991." ist spots

The motion was adopted SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE (Char,druplIr): Mr. Chairman, Sir, Tadoba National Park in Chandrnpur district and Markanda in Gadchiroli district of 15.20 hrs. Maharashtra State doserve to be the tourizt spots of alt India and international imporlance. MATTERS UNDER RULE 3n

[English] Tadoba National Park has a scenic beauty and is rich in variety of wild life. (i) Need to develop Azhlkkal port in Tourists would also enjoy the Markanda Cannanore district, Kerala Temple which has a reputed uniqu~ Hemadpanthy architecture. Both the spots SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA - are uniqun and capable of earnina raro for- CIIANDRAN (Cannanore): Mr. Chairman. eign exchango. Sir, Azhikkal Port in Cannanore district of Kerala which admitted sailing vessels of 300 tonnes capacity as early as 1920 and whtch I request tha Government of India to hClndled coastal cargo to the extent of 30.000 develup thpc:o tourist spots as of aU India tonnes during 1955-60. has since been ne- importance and provide all the requi: ~ J glectod. infrastructural factliHes. I also urge the Government of India to direct the Govtarnmert The? A2'hikkal Port I~, at the mouth of the of Mnharashtra to provide nacessary fUI ".IS Valapatt;"mam river which ,s the deepest to do the n('odful. I 481 Matters under PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) Rule377 482

(III) Need to settle pending cases of early steps to amend the Constitution to fulfil Freedom Flght.r.· pension ex· the long standing demand. pedltlously (v) Need to withdraw the Increase in SHRt UTTAM RATHOD (Hingori): Mr. excise and customs duty on man.. Chairman, Sir, many applications for Free- made fibre yarn dom Fighters' pension from the Central Gov- ernment are pending with the Home Minis- SHRI KASHIRAMCHHABllDAS RANA try. There is usually delay in sanctioning (Surat): Sir, the recent increase in excise these cases. There is a great discontent- and customs duty on man-made fibre yarn ment among the freedom fighter~ as a result is likely to dislocate the entire textile industry of the delay. The Central Government should in Surat resulting in a loss of revenue in form enquire into the delay and settle the freedom of excise and customs duty to the Gov- fighters' pension cases recommended by ernment. This would also effect more than the State Government at the earliest. three lakh workers engaged in twenty thousand small powerloom units and ancillary (Iv) Need to include Manipuri lan- units. Surat and surrounding South Gujarat guage In the Eighth Schedule of region is the biggest centre for art silk and the Constitution weaving industry in India, where more than 195 thousand powerlooms are working, PROF. N. TOMBI SINGH' (Inner producing about 451akh metres of cloth per Manipur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the rising na- day. tional consensus in favour of the inclusion of Manipuri in the Eighth Schedule of the Textile policy, 1985 inter alia stipulates Constitution does not need re-elllp"~~IS! As reduction of taxation on man-made fibre to justification, Manipur is the official language yarn. Abld Hussain Committee has also of the State of Manipur. It is the medIum of supported this contention. In 1988, the then instruction and examindtlon u~to XII dass in Finance Minister had reduced the excise Manipur. Manipur has been the language of duty. BesKjes. the last meeting of N.D.C. administration and the judiciary for the State consented to transfer an additional excise of Manipur for thousands of years stili the duty to yarn from fabric. British annexation of Manipur in 1891 and continued more or tess in the same position , Jrge upon the Government to w~hdraw upto Manipur's merger with the Inrlian Union the present decision, which has an adverse' in 1949. It is the mother tongue of mor~ than effect on the industry. two million people in Manipur mainland and Manipuris in Assam and Tripura. It has been (vi) Need to bring Pay-scales and recognised as a developed modern India other facilities of Anganwadl language by the Sah~ya Academy. It has an workerS' at par with those of ancient script of its own and has rich anciC'nt Government employees medieval, modern and contemporary litera .. tures particularly in the model n cHl(4 con- [ Translation] temporary spheres, orioinai writil1p comprising novels, stori~s. essays. criticisms SHRI SARJU PRASAD SAROJ poems, history of literature anu dram;). In the (Mohantd!ganj): Mr. Chairman, Sir, through sphere of translation it has coverod the you I want to draw~he attention of the Central Mahabharata, Ramayana, Purana$, Government towards Child Development Upanishads, Smritis, Shremad BhagwatGita, Projects being run in the country. The COn- the Bible and leading Bengali. Hindi and dition of 1118 Anganwadi workers and English works, Intemational' agreements till ·Sahayika$· WOfking in these projects is be .. 1891 were signed in Manipuri by Manipur coming rti\isGrabla d.~ by day. In my con- Kings. The Govornmant is requos1ed to take stituency .. MahanlaJOari~Lud

[Sh. Sarju Prasad Saroj] (vii) Need to name some street/roadl lane In Deihl after Gopabandhu Das, Shri Madhusudan Das and dovelopment blocks, Sarojini Nagar, Shrl Krushna Chandra GaJapatl '''''alhihabad, Purva, Auras and in Delhi, Deo, the emlnlent of Orissa Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh and other rarts of the country, they area not Q('tting the [English] full supplies of medicmes, biscuits other edible items. Under the scheme, people from SHRI A.N. SINGH DEO (Aska): Sir, high castes get 50% reservation and back- Delhi is not only a metropolitan city but also ward castes and Scheduled Castes are the Capital of India and the seat of Govern- getting 25 % reservation each. whereas high ment. It symbolises the national integration castes should get only 40$ reservation and of the country. Many streets, roads, lanes backward castes and Scheduled Castes each have been named after persons of emi- should be given 300/0 reservation. nence belonging to different States. Though many streets have been named after national leaders, men of letters and leading The Anganwadi workers are consid- personalities in different spheres, no such ered honorary workers and they get As. 2751 roads have been named after eminent per- - to As. 325/- only and 'Sahayikas' get only sons belonging to Orissa. Rs. 1101- per month. As against this, the employees working in the Children Develop- The Government is requested to name ment Project are considered as Goverpment any street, road or hne after the name of f'mployees. three of Orissa's Illustrious sons, namely Gopabandhu Das, Madhusudan Das and Krushna Chandra Gajapathi Deo. The Government has merely grven as- surances so far for increase in the salary of (viii) Need for early completion of the Anganwadi workers and no concrete Naval Academy at Ezhlmala, steps have been taken in this regard. The Karals Government instead of increasing their . salaries, has all along been saying that these SHRI M. RAMANNA RAI (Kasargod): workers get honorarium, which is not a cor- Sir, there is slow progress of work at Naval rect reply. The Government should pay Academy in Ezhimala Kerala. special attention for the upliftment of the women working in Anganwadis so that their Thousands of acres of fertile and valu- economic and social level is raised. able land has been acquired and thousands of people have been evecu 1ted from this area by spending crores of rupees. But, the The Government has recently cel- progress of the work is slow which causes ()brated the Girl-Child Day. How can great anxiety in the minds of the people. Ahganwadi workers and 'Sahayikas' develop the life of the girls properly when meagre tlmount is being paid to them. Except construction of compound wall and posting of guards, no work is presently going on at thnt place. I, therefore. demand from the Central Government that Anganwadi wOlkers and 'Sahayikas' should immediately be given the It is absolutely necessary to Complete status of Government Employees and they the work of Naval Academy so that Naval should be given the pay-scales and facilities Academy starts functioning in Ezhimala, being provided to the Primary Teachers. Kerala immediately. 485 lfAattBfS under RulB 377 PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Chief EIBc1. Comm. & 488 othtIr Elect. Oomms. (Cond. of SfHVice) Bill (Ix) Need to Issue licences for sat.. 15.31 hr... tlng up huller machines tor the benefit of BhurJ •• Community CHIEF ELECTION COMMISSIONER AND OTHER ELECTION COMMISSIONERS [ Translation] (CONDITIONS OF SERVICE) BilL

SHAI SANTO~H KUMAR GANGWAR [Eng/ish] (8 are illy) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, under Rule 3n I want to draw the attention of the House MR. CHAIRMAN: The House will now towards a very important matter. take up further consideration of the Bm, Chief Election Commissioner and other Election Bhurjee Community has been declared Commissioners (Conditions of Service) Bill. an extremely backward class by Uttar Shri l.K. Advani will speak. Pradesh Government. it has a population of S lakh. The people of this community are SHRI l.K. ADVANI (New Delhi): Sir, I residing in every State of the country but rise to support the Bill that has been presented their condition IS miserable everywhere. to the House and which the hon. Minister of law has moved for consideration of the They are engagea In petty hawking and House. sell baked nce, 'parmar, Chuda', 'chabena', 'sattu· etcfortheir livelihood. The community This Bill provides that the'Chief Election IS economically, SOCially and educationally Commissioner shalt In terms of salaries and In a pitiable condition. conditions of service would be equated to the judge of the Supreme Court. There are As a result of different Central and State other Election Commissioners on the Elec- policies, it has become difficult for them to tion Commission. They would be equally earn their livelihood. If some concrete steps treated in terms of salaries and conditions of are not tClken by the Government of India service to the judges of the High Courts. and State Gcwernments, the community is bound to perish in near future. While moving this Bill for consideration. the hen. Minister had recapitulated the course Their earnings are mainly dependent on of events which had led to the introduction of paddy, which is a victim of complex rules and this Bill. The hon. Minister has recalled the laws. Mini modC"'rn plants havo baen installed All Party Conference which was convened In the urban areas for the purpose to hulling. by the prime Minister shortly after the elec-

The people of this community mainly live in. tions were held f then the formation of a the urban areas but they being very poor are Committee on electoral law in which various not in a position to install mini pJant~ as such parties were represented and on which I also Installation requires 20 times more invest- had the privilege of serving and pointed out ment than the installing of huller machines. that following the submission of a report by Installing of huller machines is prohibited in that Committee, four Bills have been intro- the urban areas. duced in Parliament. three in the other House and one in this House. Several recommen- The Central Government is, therefore. dations were made in order to ensure that requosted to save this community from the Election Commission becomes inde- perishing. A social. economic and educational pendent and more empowered to discharge survey should be 'made and they be allowed its duties under the Constitution. Some of to install hulter machines in certain particular those recommendations needed a simple areas. They should also be given different law. Oth~r recommendations needed an concessions and facUities for the protection amendment to the Constitution. Out of the of their tradition~1 business. four bills that have been introduced in Par~ tiament, two of the Bills relate to the EJecUor 487 Chief Elect. Comm. & JANUAHV 8, 1991 (Cond. of Service) BNI 488 other Elect. Comms. . [She L.K. Advani] there is need to go beyond and particularly I am keen about these two provisions. There Commission. One b this specifIC (jill that is is another provision also in that particular being considered at the moment nnd the SiHa the 70th Amendment eill-which makes it other is the Constitution (70th Amendment) obligatory for the Government-before ap- Bill which has also been introduced in Par- pointing the Chief Election Commissioner-to liament but about which till now I have no consult tho Speaker of the House. the inkling as to what the Government proposes Chairman of the Rajya Sabha and the Leader to do. I am of the view that it would have been of the Opposition or the leader of the biggest better if both the Bills had been taken up party in the House if the leader of the Op- together. Or, at least the inte.,tions of the position is not there. That atso is part of the Government were known. After all, there can recommendations of the Committee on be no exception to this particular Bill. But I Electoral Reforms. would think it is even more imperative to make the Eledion Commission independent. Today, while endorsing this particular There should be a provision of an indepen- Bill I have two questions to pose to the hon. dent Secretariat as has been provided to the Law Minister. The first question is: What is Parliament; provision of an infrastructure his stand on the other two Bills? In the case which makes it to discharge its functions and of one bill he has already mentioned in his obligations more effectively. tn tdct, the opening remarks and I am aware of it that second Bill provides for it. The Con:;titutlon one Bill has been referred to a Joint Select (Seventieth) Amendment Bi1I provides for an Committee which is the Representation of independent Secretariat. Then that Bill wh,ch the people (Amendment) Bill. That has been I have with me also says something which an referred to a Joint Select Committee. It will han. Member of this House has said. He has come before this House. We would have an moved an amenjment to this Bill. Shri occasion to give our comments on that when Banatwalla is not here. But when he spoke, the Bill comes here. These two Constitution he spoke on the need to ensure that once a Amendment Bills which I have got as vital to person is a&lPOinted as the Chief Election strengthen the Electoral processes are the Commissioner, thereafter he is undor no Seventieth Amendment Bill and the Seventy- ..obligation to any Executrve officer or any first Amendment Bill. One of them refers to Executive post. Therefore, he has pleaded the powers of the Election Commission; re- that he should not be eligible for any post fers to the mode in which it is to be constituted after he ceases to occupy the post of the refers to the need for a separate and inde- Chief Election Commissioner. Thi!3 is one of pendent Secretariat for it. The s9COnd on9- the Crucial recommendant made by the the Seventy-first Amendment which is also Committee on Electoral Reform~. I find that very important though not related directly to the Seventieth Amendment Bill incorporates the Election Commission but it has a very this BlII when it says: vital bearing on the electoral process is the question of delimitation of constituencies- liThe Chief Election Commissioner or the Seventy-first Amendment .. and which is other Election Commissioners shall not long overdue. The last delimitation of con- be eJigible for further office under the stituencies in India took place after the 1971 Government of India or under the census. There has been no delimitation after Government of any State or for the that. A third census since the 1971 census is office of the Governor of a State or the on presen1ly. We are still having constitu- Administrator of a Union Territory after encies in India and the Members of lhe Lok he has ceased to hold his office. " Sabha and of the Assemblies are eleCted on the basis of the 1971 census. A large num· Sir, I feel that while this particutar Bill ber of changes have taken place since then. certainly strengthens the Election Commisa Our Committee on Electoral Reforms have sian, cortainly strengthens its indcp"ndonce. recomnwnded that even _hough the total 489 Chief Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of Service) Bill 490 other Eisel. Comms.

strength of the House may not be varied and Yesterday, some of our Members men- the situation as provided remains frolen in tioned about the appointment of the Chief terms of numbers, delimitation of constituen- Election Commissioner Mr. Seshan. As cies must necessarily take place. It has Advani ji has said, once he assumes office, recommended that in respect of Scheduled he is not responsible to anyone, he has to act Caste Constituencies, there ought to be a independently. And Shri 5eshan ;s also a rotation of constituencies so that areas which good administrator. He occupied many po- have not had the opportunity of electing sitions and he served to satisfy the Mem- Scheduled Caste representatives could be bers. Yesterday it was said, whether he was given that opportunity and simultaneously, having any qualification, whether he had In areas from which non-scheduled Caste learnt Jaw and so many things. We must not representatives have not been elected for a insist on such things as he should have long time may be given an opportunity to studied law. If he knows, it is good. It is the elect those. These are part of the Seventy- same National Front Government which First Constitution Amendment which has appointed him as a Member of the Planning already been introduced in the AdJya S lbha. Commission. When they had no doubt about I would Hke to know from the (;nvernment hIS capabIlity and capacity, now there is not when the Minister answers to this debate on need to worry about this capacity. He has which there is noar unanimity as to what it already assumed his office. Therefore, I hope, proposes to do about those vital amend- he will work up to the expectations of the ments. Members of Parliament and other legislative bodies. I hope, under his leadership, we can DR. THAMBI DURAl (Karur): Mr. do a lot of things for the country. Chairman, Sir, I am happy to participate in the debate about the Chief Election Com- As J already mentioned. these elections missioner and other Election Commission- to cooperative societies and panchayats are ers Bill 1990. Since the Electton Commission also very important. Most of the Members is an Independent and autonomous body. cnticise about how the State Governments the chief of that body must be given some are running-not only in one State but in very kind of a status. That is why we have taken many States. It is because political parties up this Bill. I appreciate and also welcome criticise if some other party is ruling in their the features of this Bill oocause it is very States. Here. I want to mention about what essential and necessary to soe th:lt the has happ~ned in our State especially about ~tatus of the Chief EleC't;nn Commi~sionor the elections to cooperatives; and how the must be raised and also kept equivalent to State Government dealt with it. it is a very the Chief Justice of the country. serious thing. I bring to the notice of the Ministerthat there was rigging in the elections Second thing is, the scope also must be to cooperatives. There are many malprac- increased. When we are giving such a kind tices. Recently, elections to milk cooperative of good status and independence to him, we society took place. They never allowed the have to see that his scope also is increased. voters to go and vote for in the elections. I am Nowadavs, we are conducting lot of elections teJling about Tamitnadu. When we are to our assembties as also to P arJiament. criticising some States, when there is a Even elections to panchayat and coopera- criticism. wo have to see that the Election tives are also taking place in our country. Commissioner takes note of it. Therefore, when such elections are taking place, it is important to increase the scope of SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOUDHURY it because these are the orgnisations which (Katwa): AU along is this happening there? we have to strengthen at the grassroot level. For that, the Chief Election Conln,is"ioner DR. THAMBI DURAl: This has hap- Rnd hissecretartat must hRvethA !IJrI~diction ,.,ened recently. Some members are criticising over it. That is my sugge$tion. West Bongal and you are criticising some 491 Chief Elect. Camm. & JANUARY 8,1991 (Cond. of Service) Bill 492 other Elect. ComnlS. lOr. Thamb Dura;1 As soon as we came to know that Panchayat elections were going to be held in Tamilnadu, other States. In Tamilnadu recently when we stated that those will be held under the cooperative elections took place, most of the supervision of the Election Commissioners. results were not according to the wishes of But it is a matter of regret that when National its members. That is why I am requesting Front Government was formed. they, with that when you are giving so much powers the support of the Bhartiya Janata Party and and status and strengthening the Election left Parties, removed both the Election Commissioner you have to see that his ju- Commissioners. When you are providing for risdiction also includes Panchavat and Co- the salaries and pensions of the Election operative elections. Commissioners, they should be appointed also. At present there is no Chief Election Regarding delimitation of the constitu- Commissioner. You should, therefore. im- ency, Mr. Advani has already said anu I also mediately appoint two Election Commis- join with him to add that in 1 !)71 we had taken sioners. It has rightly been said that their the census and based on that only thp. con- Secretariat will be independent. No em- stituencies were delimited. We have to revise ployees from the States should be appointed the whole thing, especially the reserved on deputation in that Secretariat. This Bill constituencies must be given on rotation should have been more comprehensive basis, so that other areas also must get an because during the elections a tot of bungling opportunity to elect reserved candidates who is resorted to. The Only way available to us want to contest. Therefore I request that this for redressal is to file petitions. We should must be taken note of seriously and hope find out some other mechanism also for the that the Election Commissioner will take redressal of the grievances and the House care of that. should decide about this. Though the political parties profess that religIOn and politics should not be mixed-even otherwise there There is nothing more to add because is no relation between politics and religion- this is a small Bill and the scope of the debate yet at the time of elections, no one acts upon is also limited. I would request through you this. When we were in power, we had stopped the hone Minister to take note of nit the pUblicity and propaganda by the religious sugg~stions that I have made in this t louse. institutions during the elections and we did I hope that he will do it. not allow misuse of religion for the purpose o~ elections. But this is not being acted upon [ Translation] at present. During elections, the sentiments of the people are stopped in the name of SHRI DHARM PAL SHARMA religion. Speeches full of religious frenzy are (Udhampur): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I welcome made and the entire election campaign is this is in which provi- Bill. It an ordinary Bill done on the basis of religion and religious sion has been made that the salary and flags are hoisted in the election meetings. pension of the Chief Election COmmissioner Therefore, what is needed is an independent will be equal to that of the Judge of the Election Commissioner and Secretariat. I Supreme Court and the Comptroller and want that if during the elections any pOlitical Auditor General, and salary and pension of ~arty orca~didate misuses religion forwithing the Election Commissioner will be equal to In the elections, the concerned political party that of a Judge of a High Court. There is no or the candidate should be declared dis- Election Commissioner presently, although qualified during the election itself. The provision has been made for the same. When Eloction Commissioner should also be em- our Party was in power, we had '-"!pr'"'inted powered to cancel the election if large scale two Election Commissioners ber,;:JIIso we rigging takes pla(..e in any State. We have the were of the view that Chief EJectioner ex;:ample!=t of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh before Commissioner alone cannot supervice and us and we have also seen what has happened control the elections in such a vast country. recently in Meh.lm. These provisions will 493 Chigf Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of Service) Bill 494 other Elect. Comms. have to be made by us. In order to remove Thirdly, unless there is the question of the influence of muscle power and money delinking of election from money and muscle power from the elections and also to hold power. 1think, there is no content in having elections in a responsible manner, provision an election free from any vitiation. All these should be made for cons'Jltation of the Chief things are part of the electoral reforms. • Justice of the Supreme Court and the Speaker in the matter of appointment of the Election One hon. Member has rightly pointed Commissioner so that the person appointed out the question of de linking of election from as Election Commissioner enjoys the confi- communalism. If certain political parties ap- dence of all the political parties as well as the proach the electorate on the basis of com· people. We will be able to do his work munal frenzy and communal demands, I indeendently and the elections will tile fair think, the secular and democratic fabric of and free. The elections should lJe fought our nation is in jeopardy. Therefore, why do properly in which everyone should get you speak and why do you think in terms of money. I demand that two Election Com- total electoral reforms, if you cannot just missioners should be appointed. keep aside these very important issues?

[English] There is another issue which is also related to the electoral reforms and that is the role of the media. The role of the media SHRI CHIT:A BASU (Barasat): Sir, I means, the rt)le of the print media and also rise to support. by and large, the sm. which the electronic media. Unless these issues is under discussion today. There are certain are also inter-related with the electoral re- reservations also.(/nterruptions) I do not forms, I think. this mere Bill is not going to know whether he is perfoctly understanding ensure a democratic process of election. it or not. Sir, while the hon. Mini~ter was making the speech. he has referred to the Then, there is the quastion of code of point that this Bill is a part of tho total elec- conduct from the side of the Governnlent toral reforms of the country. There are four and also there is the question of code of Dills pending and I do not like to I apeat it. conduct from the contesting parties. Unless Naturally it is expected that th(' hon. Minister the code of conduct is made a part of the law. wit! explain as to what is the Government's I think, that code of conduct is not going to bo intention with regard to the three other Bills honoured by either of the contestants. which are pending in the other House. If he Therefore, the code of conduct becomes explains, it will be very convenient for us to meaningless. That point has also to be taken know the intention of the Government. Since note of. it is a part of electoral reforms, I think, the hon. Minister wil~ take note of what wo really Now the question of registration of po- mean by electoral reforms. It is not only the litical parties is also there. There should be a four Bills, which have already been introduced well .. defined policy on the basis of which tho and one is being considered, constitute the political party seeking to take part in the entire gamut of the electoral reforms which is election is to be registered. At the present needed by the oountry today. I will just point moment, there are no well-defined guidelines out certain points which the Government for the registration of any political party should take into account. before fOr01Ulo.tlO9 seeking to contest in the elections. ' a comprehensive policy regarding electoral r\)forms. The main objuctive of tllis ~:Qc.tora' The Election Commission is handi- reform is to be the democrFltisntion of the capped today. They have got no electoral process asa whole Secondly. there infrastructural machineryoftheirown neither is another objective of the electoral reform at the Union level nor attha State level. Althe and that is the immunisation of alaetion State level, the Election Commission has to process from any kind of vitiation. depend upon the administrative apparatus 495 Chief EJect. Comm. & JANUARV 8, 1991 (Cond. of Service) Bill 496 other Elect. ComnlS.

[Sh. Chita 8asu] Ordor t order of the State Government. There cannot be SHAI CHinA BASU: Sir, I have not true independence of the Election Commis- disscused it. I know the position. I say that sion if it is not endowed with independent there is a disease called Idefection' and secretariat pius independent machinery to defection was there in the State legislature. conduct the election right from the primary I simply remarked that defection has also stage, that is, enrollment of voters. Unless entered the Parliament. There is nothing that kind of infrastructure is made avt:' Hable wrong. I also know that the case of defecti~n with the Election Commis~ion, I think, the is before the Speaker. The Speaker is to take electionprocesscannotbefreefrom vitiation. the final decision about it. The questions have also been raised as to the jurisdiction of Some of us feel that in order to ensure the Speaker. proper representation in the House through an election, there should be the system of MR. CHAIRMAN: Do not discuss any- proportional representation. It has now found thing about the issue before the Speaker. favour with the Election Commission. It has ( Interruptions) not found favour with many. But to have a properly representative House on the basis Mr. Basu, please hear me. You can of the wishes expressed by the electorate speak about defection but do not mention through the election, I think, the proportional anything with regard to the issue before the representation is the best method and there Speaker. should be some thinking on that aspect also. SHRI CHinA BASU: What have I There is a provision in certain countries r.1entioned? I have mentioned defections. forthe right ofthe electorate to recOlI!. VIe see (Interruptions) The Speaker has got the right rlefections even in this hOllse. I think. this is to decide about daf actions. What else have not the occasion for me. I said? (/nterruDtions)

AN HON. MEMBER: Let the ruling be MR. CHAIRMAN: You can speak about ovor. defection.

SHRI CHinA BASU: let the ruling be ( Interruptions) over. Anyway. there are defec1ions. Earlier, the defections were only in the Statos. Now There is no prohibition. But do not say it is a misfortune for us to see that defections anything about the present case before th€' have taken place also in the Parliament and Speaker. some defectors have also been promotod to the position of Ministers and the case is pending before you. It is for you to decide. SHRI CHITTA BASU: The defection (Interruptions) There are defections. (Inter .. has some premium also. I leave it to you. ruptions) There is a defection law. (Inter- ruptions) There is also a split. (Intel fu{'rions) Then, there is the question of right to DR. THAMBI DURAl: Mr. Speaker wilt recall. Do you want not say that this is also rule. Why are you discussing thIs matter? unparliamentary? As many of the ills arise out of defection, f want that those iUs can be MR. CHAIRMAN: No, no. met by a law which provides for the right of the electorate to recall its elected ( Interruptions) representatives. (Interruptions)·

*Not recorded. 497 Chief Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of Service) Bill 498 other Elect. Comms.

16.00 hra. extent to which us clearly he agrees with the recommendaUons and which recommenda- MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go on tions he is going to accept. In addition to this, record. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to delve internal on two more points also. SHRI CHinA BASU: Sir, thi') is per- fectly within the framework of the practice in 16.05 hrs. r arliament. These are the burning issues and so, we have to bring about comprehen- [DR. THAMBI DURAl in the Chair] sive electoral reforms. I have got my reservations on the Bill because this Bill does not Sir t doubts and suspicions have been touch this very important issue relating to the raised in regard to the appointment of the electoral reform. Therefore, by and large, I Chief ElecflOn Commissioner. This should support it. By 'by and large', I mean it is a step not have happened. The appointment shouJd forward. It strengthens the position of the not a only be fair, but should also appear to Election Commission and the Election be so. As I have stated, for free and fair Commissioner. h is a step towards creating elections, there should be an independent a condition for democratisation of election Chief Election Commissioner. On this issue, process. Therefore, while supporting this the report says that though he should be Bill. I would earnestly request the hone Min- appointed by the President, this shovld be ister of law and Justice to do justice to the done after consultations with the Chief Jus- election and see that there are proper laws tice of India, the Prime Minister, the leader framed so that erection may be fair and free of the Opposition and the Leader of the from all kinds of vitiations that we see 10day largest party in the House, if any. Now-a- 111 the country. Those laws are nUl.,ussary for d(lYs a mini-scule party is ruling the country the survival of Parliamentary democracy. I and the largost single party the Congress is think the House will appreciate this approach supporting it. In. such a situation the largest of mine. party should also be consulted.

[ Translation] Mr. Chairman. Sir, after the death of Shri Perry Sastri, Shrimati Rama Devi was SHAI MADAN LAL KHURANA(South appointed the Chief Election Commissioner. Delhi): Mr. Chairman. Sir, on this Bill I will It was a matter of pride for India to have a submit only two or three points as respected woman as the Chief Election Commissioner Advani ji has already expressed his views in for the first time. But the way she has been detail. India is the largest democratic country removed is not a proper thing. I have been and reforms in the etection laws is a con- told that in the first instance three I.A.S. tinuous process in our country. Today we are officers were asked but when they declined discussing and considering the issuo 01 and only then she was appointed as Chief electoral reforms. A Committee W8S formed Election Commissioner. This has been the for suggesting electoral reforms. It had convention that the law Secretary is ap- ~ubin;tt9d its reprot If) the Go\t~(",nent in pointed as ChiEff Election Commissioner. May, 1990. In this Commi~t~t;'.,11 'hfl political She has a good reputation. She was inde- parties were represented and tocommen- pendent and honest. The Government has dations h2\ve been submitted to the Gov- not done a good thing by removing her. The ernment after detailed deliberations. After honour which we had conferred on a woman reading the report, I am of the view that if the by appointing her the Chief Election Com· recommendations made by the committee missioner, is now lost. On the other hand, the are accepted. there can be a lot of im- appointment of the new incumbent would provement in the electoral process in our also create doubts. That is why I said that country. Therefore j my tirst submisston is before the appointment not only the rulinn that the hone Minister may tall us d€:'arly P.:lr1y, but the leader of the Opposit;on and 499 Chief Elect. Comm. & JANUARY 8.1991 (Cond. of Service) BiN 500 other Elect. Camms. [She Madan Lal Khurana] need to have one more Chief Election Com· missioner, should be considered by the also the largest single party and the support- Government keeping in view the discussion ing party should also be consuhed so that that has been going on with respect to the overy body has faith in election com'mlssion 10th Schedule of the Constitution. Otherwise, Clnd the Chief Election Commissioner. the work load of the Chief Election Com- missioner will be more. As such, if one or Mr. Chairman Sir, secondly I would like more. Election Commissioner is there the to say that as has been suggested in the whole electoral process can take place more report, Election Commission should be a quickly. multi-member commission, because single member can come in the influence of some- Sir, I would just like to draw attention of one and in that case any thing can happen. the House to one or two important points. It Therefore, if we want free and fair elections. is very good that the pay and allowances of there should to 30r5 members in the Election the Chief Election Commissioner and the Commission. This is my submission and Election Commissioner have been included same thing has been said in the report also. in the Bill. Coming from a hilly stat€ like Meghalaya. we must also remember that the Mr. Chairman. thirdly I want to say a electoral officials have to go miles and miles word about defection. Our party is of this on foot in order to carry out the electoral duty. view that this should be deciderl by the So, I think that TA/OA of these persons President through Election Commission af- should also be tnken care of and the con- ter hearing the views of all the p.lrti~s. I do tingency fund forcnrrying the election material not want to cast aspc~ion~ on anybody should be increased for 1hem. Otherwise, it regarding defection, but this much , would is meaningless to increase the TAIDA of the definitely like to say that even after committing top officers and forgetting those who are such a big crime, no punishment is being their right and left hands and who help to giventotheculprits.ltlooksas if anti-defection conduct elections in the country. law has become a joke. I. therefore, urge upon the Government that this report should Another very very pertinent point which be accepted. While replying, hone Minister Iwould like to draw to the notice of the House should make it clear that to what extent he is is regarding the names in the Electoral Roll. accepting the report. We find that mostly the eloctoral roll is not prepared and many names especially of [Eng/ish] illiterate persons are left outfrom the electoral roll and thereby they are denied of their birth SHRI PETER G. MARBANIANG right. Therefore, a better method should be (Shillong):Mr. Chairman, Sir, I n~etn support found to see that the namos of genuine the Bill. It is a Bill in the right direction. It IS true persons are included in the electoral roll. ti1dt we need a comprehensivt! Gill to do Under the present law we find that it takes away with many of the abu~es of olection. quite a long time to claim the name of a person in the electoral roll. Many objections I am very happy to inform the han. and counter-objections are being levelled. If House that I come from a State where the a person is a genuine voter then the Election electoral process is still respected very much. officer should include his name in the roll In Meghalaya. we need only two Police after verification by another voter of the roll. constables to go along with the official election If he is a poor man and he has to go miles and party to conduct elections in a Pollir.g Booth. milos to some other polling station t9 claim We don't have many of the abuses which his name and plead his case then it is very have appeared in the whole length and unfortunate. breadth of India. However, I feel that the view that has been expressed hero, i.e. that we Sir, these are few things which should 501 Chisf Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of S9fVice) Bill 502 other Elect. Comms. be taken care of when we bring a compre.. is impartial . If these provisions have been henstve law in this regard so that ~II the made. the Bill would have been a better citizens of India who have attained 18 years enactment. of age should get this birth right to vote. [English] [ Translation] SHAI VAMANRAO MAHADfK (Bombay SHRI RAM KRfSHAN YADAV South Central); Mr. Chairman Sir. 'support (Azamgarh): Mr. Chairman, Sir, in this Bill this Bill. I consider the position of the Chief Election Commission has been given more Election Commissioner as sacred and I feel powers. I am of the view that a comprehen- that the Chief Election Commissioner and sive Bill should be brought, so that all the his associates should be independent. They defects of the election system could be re- have been compared to the judges of the moved. It would have been better if provision Supreme Court and High Courts. The ap- to contain increasing influence of money, pointment of these officers is a daily routine media and mafia in the elections had been work which we have to sanction. But so far as made in the Bill. this particular appointment is concerned, I have to request the Government through So far as the question of provldm~ more you to think about some suggestions which frlcilttles and increasing the pay of Election I am going to make. Commissioner and providing him facilities equal to the judges of Supreme Court are These officers should be empowered to concerned, I would like to say that If he is decide before the Census, in what fashion being given all these facilities then he should the census should be made. fhe present also have the qualifications equal to a Su- fashion of forming Constituencies is to cre- preme Court Judge. Some sort of arrange- ate first census circles and these circles are ment should be made so as to made him as not changed. That is why while making de- reliable as judges of Supreme Court and limitation etc., voters who are staying nearer High Court. It would be better for him if he to the Constituency's centre and people who performs his duties with the same dignity are somewhat far away are divided unevenly. Clnd honour as is performed by the judges of We have to see whether we can change the Supreme Court and High Court. theory of these census circtes and make our constituencies composite ones by allowing Along with the increased fucihties he to divide oven the census circles suitably. must be given some more responsibilities. His selection should also be made just In the Secondly, 'would like to mention about same way as the jUd!Jns of thft SlJrreme the interferenc~ by the Government in Court or High Court are selected. He should election system. I suggest that the ruling be selected on the basis of qualIfications. party should resign a month before the But it is regrettable that no provision regarding elections. This aspect may be examined by his qualifications has been made in the Bill. these officers. I say this because the ruling It would have been better if such a provision party often uses all the government ma- was made. Apart from this his duties should chinery to get the election results in their have also been defined so that he may be favour. Also, use of force and violence is able to perform them honestly. A person who resorted to with the help of police by the has been in politics should not be appointed ruling Party in Govt. That is why such kind of as Election Commissioner, as it has been pressures should not be there. noticed that these days politics is coming Into the office of Election Commissioner. I Third thing is regarding disqualification request you that some such prOVision should based on grounds of race, religion, caste. be made which may assure the ruling as well community and language. It is necessary to as apposition party that the person concerned say whether the word 'Dharma1s equal to 503 Chief Elect. Camm. & JANUARY 8,1991 (Cond. of Service) Bill 504 other Elset. Camms. [Sh. Vamanrao Mahndik] [ Translation) religion. For example, I have seen in the PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL Emblem of Supreme Court. It Yalo (Hamirpur): Mr. Chairman, Sir. I support the Ohamastato Jayah". This does not belong to Bill. introduced by the Minister of Law. any religion. nYada Yada Hi Dharmasya glanirbharti Bharatah ... ", "Swa Dharma I want to say few words regarding some Nidhanam Shreyah Pardharmo points only. Election law has become so old Bhayavahah" ItDharyati lti dharmah", These that it requires improvements. These reforms are the things which are connected with the are being brought in piece-meal. I would etymology of I Dharma. ' I But are we calling request the Minister of Law to bring a com- 'Dharma' equal to religion? Because of this prehensive Bill, containing all the required only, disqualification cases are increasing reforms like-rotation and delimitation of and which involves some sort of injustice constituencies. There are some constituen- done to a particular individual. If a party has cies which are reserved constituencies for a symbol of hand and if it says that this is the last 20 years. A Bill in this regard should be hand of Ram and the other party says that brought forward. My second suggestion is this is the hand of Krishna. it will turn into that power to decide cases of defection religious propaganda in the name of Dharma. should be vested in the Election Commis- Suppose I have got a symbol of Bow and sion. Arrow and I say this is the bow of Ram, then I may be involved as a person making propaganda in the name of religion etc. So, My third suggestion is that while ap- whether we should not use such symbols is pointing members of the Election Commis- a question. So, some decision should be sion and the Chief Election Commissioner, taken in order to see which are symbols opinion of the Speaker of Lok Sabha, which can disqualify a candidate. Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Leader of the Opposition should be taken. This has also Then. there are some candidates who been suggested by the Committee on Elec- are taken on the basis of caste, creed and so tion Reforms. The appointment of present on. Secularism is our principle but ap- Chief Election Commissioner has raised peasementof minorities should not bethera. suspicion in the minds of the people. My We make such rules wherein all are treated friends have said that in the first instance equally. Now, we are giving resorv,ltions Shrimati R::tma Devi was appointed but later speciallyforwomen.lfwewantto m,kesuch on nfter removing her, another person was division. why not make such division for all ar>pointed. It is said that he refused to accept on all levels of Caste, creed, genders etc. the appointment in the first instance. Thus on the one hand an unwilling person was ap- PfJinted by you and on the other by denying These are the things which are coming that post to a woman you have invited the in the way of having impartial elections. So, anger of women. some additional officer should be appointed to solve this probtem. This may stop the In the end I would like to give a sugges- candidates from going to the courts. This tion. I want that Election Commission should may also save time, money and stop again be multi-member commission, as has been get disqualified. tf they get disqualified, then suggested by the committee. I hope that they may have to go in and appeal before the Minister of law will give a thought to my Supreme Court. suggestion while replying to t~e debate. I suggest that radical changes should be brought in the election system. I would also So, these are the things which I would like to know the time when you are introducing like to suggest. a Bill in thts regard? 505 Chief Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of Service) Bill 506 other Elect. ComnlS. s. ATINDER PAL SINGH (Patiala): Mr. the Ministerconcernedtothis: he has not put Chairman, I support this Bill halfheartedly, as his mind to it. I am telling you, Mr. Minister: in this Bill only provisions regarding the pay You have not done your home-work properly. of election commissioners have been made, whereas full financial powers should have 16.27 hrs. been given to the Commission just like the Auditor General and the Supreme Court. I (MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chaifj hope that Government will remove this la- cuna. In the Bill. you have made provisions for him for leave. for resignation, but there are Booth capturing is very common in our no provisions for his removal. His term is for country. Tocontrolthis, identity cards should six years in the Bill. In the case of the be issued and with that voting should also be Chairman of the Union Public Service made obligatory. 1 also suogest th;lt Indian Commission, there are provisions how he is Election service should be create on the brought in, how he is removed as and when lines of Indian Admintstrative SUi vl<.:e and the situation demands or warrants. But, In Indian Police Service, so that C'lections could th,s case, there are provisions only for his be conducted properly in every State. Elec- leave, for his resignation but not for his tion CommiSSion should also be given removal as and when the situation demands. statutory powers to conduct Panchayat elections on the expiry of theIr term WIthout . SHAI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV (Tripura prior permission of the Government. Unless West): He can be impeached in the House. these provisions are made we cannot say that we are having a developed democracy. SHR I SHIKIHO SEMA: But the provision I, therefore, request that Government should is still absent in the Bill, So, this has to be bring a Bill containing the suggestIons gIven taken into account. by the previous Election Commissioners. Then you have brought in the Chief [English] Election Commissioner and other Election Commissioners. What about the district level SHRI SHIKIHO SEMA (Nogaland): I Roturning Officers, what about down below would alsoliketo makeafewpoints reOJrdlng officers, what about polling booth officers? the Chief Election Cornm issionsl c)nd Other Some of the members have said that you Election Commissioners (Conditions of hnve not included officers below them. So, Service) Bill, 1990. this Bill has been brought forward in a hurry. It is not a comprehensive Bill. This has to be India is one of the largest democratic looked into carefuUy. countries in the world, and we are the Members of its Ninth Lok Sabha, duly electe.d To improve electoral reforms in our by the people. There have been many States country is not a newthing. We had discussed which have gone through so many elections. enough on a Private Member's Bill brought Elections are not a new thing to our people. forward by the hon. Member, Shri L.K. Advani. But the question of dc)term ination of the It was widely discussed here in the House, in status of the Chiei Election Commissioner the press, Media and at various forums. But, and the other Election Commissioners have still, you are bringing in only the Chief Election coma up only today. Nevertheless, though Commissioner and Election Commissioners. delayed, it is not too late. What about reduction or avoidance of I would also like to support the Bill: but money and muscle power which we have meanwhile, I consider that thb e,ll is not been talking about all the time. The Gov- comprehensive. It has been brought very ernment did not have enough time to think hurriedly. I would like to draw the attantion of about it. Therefore. sweeping electoral re- 507 Chief Elect. Comm. & JANUARV~, 1991 (Cond. of ServicfiJ) 8ill 508 other Elect. Comms. [Sh. Shikho Serna] been brought. Had you taken all of us into confidence some way out would have been forms for the voters have to come soon; they found. Now you say that his age of superan- should not be delayed. nuation should be 65 years. What is very special about him when it Is 58 years in the We have gone through many elections. case of all Government officers. From this it I think there is no substitute to the identity ;s obvious that it is an attempt to make him cards. If we introduce identity cards, then follow the dictates of the Government. I want nobody can do any mischief. Therefore, that in this case also the age of retirement Government has to think about it. If you think should not exceed that of an ordinary Gov- that it is too expensive to introduce identity ernment employee or a judge. This may cards, but, then you wiU have to realise that hinder the reforms. The incumbent will only it can be useful in many ways. Therefore, think of the ways of influencing the people in Government has to think about it. power for his personal ends. It should be made clear that a person who becomes an Since this Bill is not comprehensive, Election Commissioner or Chief Election many more amendments have to come and Commissioner shall not hold any office of more have to be substantiated covering lower profit after retirement so that he does not level. Any how, something is better than succumb to outside. nothing. I also support this Bill. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in our country [ Translation] there are many flaws in our electoral system and there is immediate need of reforms. In SHRI GULAB CHAND KATARIA our country the name of a voter is found in six (Udaipur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir: we are separate voters lists. The name of a person the biggest democratic country of the world will be included in the voter list of Delhi, in the and we have been discussing for years how list of his native village and many other to bring about electoral reforms in the country. places. Votes are cast at different places. So The Bill which has been brought here provides there must be a system whereunder name of for increasing the salary and service tenure a person is included in the voter list of only of Election Commissioners and Chief Elec- one place and he should cast his vote only at tion Commissioner and we cannot bring that place. If anybody violate this rule he electoral reforms in this manner. I won't should be penalised. These priorities de- support this bill at any cost for this reason served consideration but we have not done and also because the Government have it.The bill centers around the service condi- given priority to giving individual benefits to tions only. these officers. I am not prepared to accept It. The matters which deserve prior~y have Similarly nothing has been mentioned been relegated to background. Had the about the qualifications of Election Com- Government brought this bill after 4,6 or 8 'missioner or Chief Election Commissioner. months, heavens would not have fallen. It Only their service conditions have been would not have created any hurdle In1heway mentioned. You said that the same has been of election process which we have been presented in the Rajya Sabha. It may pre- following so far. sented in the Lok Sabha orthe Raiya Sabha, people want a package of election reforms. I feel that first of all we should have All the reforms should have been brought considered those matters which are eating through a single legisiation so thatthe people into our democracy, which are destroying feel that government is reaUy interested in our democracy. Why has the aspect of money doing something in the matter. The present power been brought the role of money power minority Government expects applause by is well known. Instead of piece-meal legis- improving the service conditJons. It wants to latien. a comprehensive Bill should have influence the election officers. It appears 509 Chief Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of Servicg) Bill 510 other EIBct. Comms. that the bill has been brought at this moment diats attention has to be paid by this Govern- with the intention of influencing the Election ment. Commissioner. The bill has been brought in a wrong manner. So I can't support this Silt, So many suggestions were made with instead I oppose it strongly. The way this bill regard to public funding of elections. Some is brought is quite improper. suggestions have been made with regard to the list system and about the selection of [English] candidates and voting etc. To meet the present troubles which we see with respect to electioneering and counting aspect, we SHRI P.C. THOMAS (Muvattupuzha): I have to do something. We feel that the total support this Bill which gives some kind of election results as such are very much af- independence by way of giving a proper fected by extraneous dealings. I think, some status to the Chief Election Commissioner kind of reforms in this manner should be andthe Election Commissioners. In fact, it is brought immediately. I plead wtth the Gov- Incumbent on us to treat this high office in a ernment for it and once again I support this similar manner as we treat thEt off_ice of a 8ill. That for the first time an attempt is being Judge of the Supreme Court or the High made to bring the appointment to the Elec- Court. But I would think that the disparity in tion CommissIOn under a cloud of doubt. It is age, as it is stated as 62 and 65 with regard all the more unfortunate that this attempt is to the Election Commissioner and the Chief being made by the recognised opposition. I Election Commissioner need not be there. don't need to give a certificate regarding the Though this Bill is broadly supported, and as present Chief Election Commissioner. Entire such this is only what we can expect from country knows his integrity, experience and such a Bill, we were all expecting something administrative ability. There is nothing more than this. The trend of the House and nove I ... ( Interruptions) the trend of the suggestions which have been already made indicate that. I think we [English] are expecting a further law eithAr in the form of some election reforms or In the form of an PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL: We amendment to the Representation of the have not objected to the person appointed. People Act. We have objected to the process that was adopted ... (Interruptions) I think, there was Conference which was held a year back. It was a conference of [ Translation] all the parties held on the 9th January 1990 almost an year back. So many suggestions SHRI RAJVEER SINGH (Aonla): Mr. were made in that conference. It was a Deputy C)peaker, Sir, I feel he has started conference which was expected to be fruit- indulging in sychophancy right now. He wants ful, and afterthat acommitteewas appointed. to take some advantage. He is busy in praising That Committee also had made so many the officers. He should neither praise the suggestions. In the House also we had a officers or find fault with them. discussion with regard to electoral reforms. Then also very many suggestions were given. In this discussion also a number of tugges .. SHRI HARtSH RAWAT: Mr. Deputy tions have been given. I would plead with the Speaker, Sir, I want to teach wisdom to them Law Minister and this Government to 1ak. there are certain posts whose dignity and immediate steps to bring some kind of a taw sanctity is to be maintained not only by the to incorporate thesa very vatuabte augO" ruling aide bUt ether- also. One should not tions which have been mads. espectatty with endeavour to drag such offiQCtrs into dispute regard to the reforms which are ~sa1)'tn fQrtheitiAdividualpolitical.nds. That is what the case of ofeotton 8xp$nsh I thfnk imfne.' J ..,.,1 to say. 511 Chief Elect. Comm. & JANUARY 8, 1991 (Cond. of Servic9) Bill 512 other Elect. Comms. SHRI R.N. RAKESH (Chail): Mr. Sabha on the basis of poputation.You can't Speaker,Sir, I request 'respectful' lang:.Jage have a different criteria for Lok Sabha. he has used for him should be w~hdrawn. He Whether it is Himachal Pradesh. Jammu and knows the art of "buttering" and that is why Ka~hmir. Meghalaya or Mizoram the Le:is· butter is bQcoming costly. lativ3 Assembly constituencies have been created on the basis of population. In our SHAt HARISH RAWAT: Shri Rajveer Stelte the criteria is the same as in th~ plains Slligh is not only my neighbour, he is like my of Uttar Pradesh. Our Legislative Assembly elder brother also. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, constituencies are so big that it is impossible Government has not appointed an adminis- to tour them even in five years. This is trative Officer as Chief Election Commis· causing a great dissatisfaction among our sioner for the first time. Prior to that Shri public. Better services are not possible. When Swaminathan and Shri Trivedi have adorned the comprehensive Amendment Bill is that office and the dignity wit" which they brought in the House, it may please be adorned1hatoffice, we hopethatShriSe~hon considered whether there can he two types WIll also not only prove to be of the same of constituencies. 11hink the expectations of stature but go further to set new and sow the people of hilly areas can be accommo- traditions. I hope that he will be capable to dated. work according to the present dernands of the future elections. We also hope that he SHRI GIRDHARI LAL BHARGAVA will do his best to fulfil the task assigned to (,Jalpur): Mr. Deputy Spc,kpr, Sir, in this Bill him and according to the feelings of the there IS only one POInt and that is about the House ann t"e entire country. I would like to salary and pension ()f Chief Electron Cvfll- support those few minor suggestions which missioner and Electlun Commission 3r. I have been given by Shri Banatwalla, and would lIke to make a submission to you that would ellso submit that Honourable Minister we have also come here after being elected. ot Justice has taken a very fundamental There are so many problems in elections. question that once we appoint a person as Elections should be conducted in impartial Chief Election Commissioner or Election manner. If a single comprehensive Bill is CommissIoner he should not hold any office introduced, I think it could have been dis· of profit afterwards. There should be some cusseJ thoroughly. How the foreigners get law regarding this. His re-employment should themselves enroll in the electoral rolls? In be considered, hecause if somebody is do-' these rolls people from Pakistan and other ing excellent job and he is capable, his countries also get themselves enrolled. I capability should be utilized. There should would like to say that the eiectotol rolls also be such a provision. But all the same, should be prepared carefully. The names of thHre should be a provision that thp.y are not Indian citizen should be included in the elec· given any office of profIt. Mr. Deputy Speaker, toral roll-3. It was proposed to instal only Sir, another suggestion by respected Shri twelve electronic machines as a measure to Banatwalla presented as an amendmant by improve the election procedure and it was him is a submission that there should also be stated that the counting of notes would be a provision for the Election CommIssioners done simply by pressina a button. There is of the States. If they are doing excellent job always some dispute or bungling in the in their area. They should be appointed as counting of notes. I have been a victim of the Elprtion Commissioners or Chief Election same maJpract ice. When will the electronic Commissioners on Central level, and all the voting machines be used? Identity cards conditions which are applied in case of Chief should be issued to the people so that they Election Commission~r nnd Election Com· may cast thoir notes anJ bogus voting is missioner on Central level should be applied checked. This problem should be taken into in 1heircase also. I hopethe Honourable Law consjd~ralicn. Thi5 is correct that there should Mlni$ter will consider these suggestions also be an independent department to look aftor when he bring~ 70th and 71 ~t Amendment this department and there should be an Btlls b8fol 0 the House. t have been repeat- independent secretariat: then alone there edly asking about tl1e hilly areas of Uttar can be impartial elections. Presently 20 SC:lts Pmdesh. This has been disturbing me. In of Lok Sabha are lying vacant for which Utti1r Pradosh, constituencies h;;ve been electIons are yet to be held. You are leavif'g formed for Legislative Assembly and Lok it 10 the will of the government. If government 513 Chisf Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of SSfVice) Bill 514 otller Elect. Camms. is willing, only then elections can be held. If already there in the rules regarding the ap- the Prime Minister wishes only then Lok pointment of Chief Election Commissioner. Sabha elections would be held. Elections to the Lok Sabha should be held at the stipu- I would like to add by way of support that lated time. When there is no need to consult the appointment of the Chief Election Com- any Chief Minister or the Prime Minister of missioner has to be based not only on the the country, then alone there will be impartial elections. De-limitation is very essential. fact that he knows the law because part of his Poning stations are situated at long dis- responsibility is pronouncing judgements on tances. There is booth-capturing and muscle questions of law, but also he must be a power plays a vital role during polls. person who has a fair understanding of the administrative system of the country. In- There should be an improvement in this deed, in the difficult situatioA the country is in regard. After so many years of indepen- and in view of the fad that we may have to dence, they have started doubting the in- hold elections in difficult parts of the country tegrity of the Election Commissioner. One where a great deal of care has to be ta"en, such instance is before you. In respect of we looked for somebody who had both the Meham, their policy was not clear. So, I knowledge of the law as well as considerable would like to urge upon the Government to administrative 9xp~ri9nce. It i~ on that basis brighten the prospects of the persons hold- that the Prime Minister recommended to the Ing a high position of this level so that they President the name of Mr. 5C?shan, and I were not swayed by any temptations or did would think that now that he il:i appointed, his not tend to give in case of any external name should be kept above controversy. pressures. A proviSion to that effect should be made by them. The Government should Mr. Advani, in his Intervention, rai~0d also come out With a reply to air the POints the question of a package of electoral reform that I have raised here. measures. Prof. Ranga also referred to this in his speech. Now, the question is that in [English] addition to the Bills that have been presented in the Rajya Sabha and here, there is also a considerable part which the previous THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND Government's Cabinet had adopted. Whether MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI the whole package has to be brought for- SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY): Sir, in this de- ward or part of it has to be brought forward bate on the Chief Election Commissioner can only be decided after the Government and other Election Commissioners (Condi- consults the leading Opposition parties and tions of Service) Bill, many important and then comes to a consensus because many good 5ugge~tions have been made. I will not of them require Constitutional amendments be in a position to rely to each of them turn by and that would reqUire the cooperation of the turn but 1have collected them together and Opposition. Conseqvently J the 1110St impor- will reply to them on the issuo basis. tant part is the consultation that has to take place. The package contains many elements. First of all, many Members raised the If today we have to bring it in today's context, question of the appointment procedure. At then there may be all kinds of meanings present, the appointment of the Chief Elec- attached to it. For example, hon. Member tion Commissioner is guided by article 324 of Mr. Madan Lal Khurana said that the anti- the Constitution which says that the Presi- defection law has become a joke. Another dent shall appoint the Chief Election Com- han. Member Mr. P.K. Dhumal wanted that missioner. This procedure is sought to be the power to disqualify a Member violating changed and for that a Constitutional the anti-defection law should be transferred amendment is necessary. A Constitution to the Chief Election Commissioner. It is a (Amendment) Bill is pending in the Rajya fact that the present powers for disqualifica- Sabha on this subject and we will certainly tion. except for violating the Whip in the take it up as soon as we have a tonger House or for changing the party, rest with the session. At the moment, this session being President who acts in consultation and shaff short and the pending business being heavy, act in consultation with the Chief Election Wid <.;1 lose to bring only this Bill in order to give Commissioner. This is the only power of a proper legal status to something which is 515 Chisf EIBct. Comm. & JANUARY 8, 1991 (Cond. of Sewice) SRI 516 oth&r Elect. Comms. [Sh. Subramaniam Swamy] SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAUY: Well. something concrete. Are you satisfied or you disqualification which is presently vested in want me to spell it out more? the Speaker. I do not know whether Prof. Pram Kumar Dhumal sitting where he is Sir, many Members mentioned the sitting. is a member of the BJP and whether question of muscle power, money power e1c. this has the support of the BJP. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Media power. SHRI L.K. ADVANI: That is a recommendation of the Committee. SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: Yes, media power, the power to destroy. the power SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: That to print the lies, that is what you mean now. is right. It is not only a recommendation of the expert oommittee, but it is also a Cabinet Now, frankly. Sir. we can make laws, but decision taken on the 11th of August 1990 ultimately it has to be the political parties that the power to disqualify Members should which have to take it upon themselves to vest not with the Speaker, but with the educate the voters. We can indeed have President of India. Now, if we were to bring laws and certain of the measures that are such a constitutional amendment now, un- being considered, which are part of the less we have the formal support of the Op- recommendations, which we will bring for- position Parties. it is bound to be mi~under ward in the form of a Bill, but ultimatolv. stood. unless the political parties jointly decide that they will not do this. it is not possible to SHRI L.K. ADVANt: Mr. Deputy devise fool-proof laws which wit! ensure that Speaker. Sir, the other day the hon. Minister these things do not happen. of Law had mentioned this and when he said that it should be vested in the President. it I also agree with the Members who said was to that poinUhat my immediate response that political parties should not use religion was that I cannot conceive of shifting this for collecting votes. This also, 1hope, has the authority from the Speaker to the Executive. unanimous support of the House, and not But it is only when I went through the entire only hasthesupportofthe House. but people . notes, what we have recommended, so that with their hearts agree that it is essential to was, in effect. transferring it from the Speaker maintain the secular fabric of this country to the Election Commission because in this and elections at least should not be polluted particular case, the President had to act not by appeal to religious fanaticism. in consultation with the Election Commission, but on the advice of the Election Commission. Besides that, I feel that the Bill is a very which will be binding. So, in effect, it is the simple Bill. it does not require much more Election Commission. So, to that extent the discussio'n. entire Committee including the last government, including most of this side are really DR. THAMBI DURAl: Just now you said committed to that. that the Members raised that muscle power and media power also should be under control. For example, the grass .. root election SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: I am first takes place at the rural levels. especially very happy to hear this from Mr. Advani, the cooperative societies and panchayat lewis. Leader of the Opposition. and on that basis There. the peopte are using aU their money certainly we will come forward with some- power and muscle power to get· elected. thing. Therefore, if you are not bringing thos.things under the EJection Commission where the OR. B1PLAB DASGUPTA (Calcutta people already said it is applicable to other South): Could this something be defined? elections also, f want to kftaw whether you 517 Chief Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of Service) SRI 518 other Elect. Comms. are going to take this kind of action to see be implemented at the time of passing this that panchavat elections come under the Bill. control of the Election Commission. SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY DR. elPLAB DASGUPTA: As far as we (Jagatsinghpur): Sir, Panchayat election is are concerned. we do not agree to this not part of the Bill. but the Minister has proposal. (Interruptions) We know how you unfortunately covered that area. When the use the muscle power in Calcutta. (!nter· Minister has unfortunately covered that area, ruptions) That was an attempt being made then we also have a right to seek clarifications. by the earlier governments. Efforts are made to bring the elections under the control 01 the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: But please EJection Commission. do not make it too wide.

17.00 hr•. DR. THAMBI DURAl: Sir, this is a Bill pertaining to salaries and other service By that they wanted to influence the votes in conditions of the Chief Election Commis- the States. It was brought by Rajiv Gandhi sioner and other Election Commissioners. Government. (Inte"uptions) They wanted to But we have discussed beyond that also. manipulate the elections in the Panchayats When we are discussing beyond the scope and Cooperatives. But we opposod it. (In- of this Bill. I also suggested that the Panchayat terruptions) and Cooperative elections should be brought under the Election Commission. (Interrup- SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMV: Sir. tions) the hon. Member has just mentioned the question of muscle power again. The sug- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Well. there is gestion that he has made is a worth con- some other item on which you would be sidering one. But, at the moment, there is no equally interested, i.e. price rise and we are unanimity in the House. So. we will give a expected to start the discussion on price rise serious thought to this matter. Then, once at 5 o'clock. The han. Minister was replying we have made up our mind, we will come and he was respecting the feelings expressed forward before Parliament with some mea- by the han. Members. I think the scope is sure. very limited and within that scope let us discuss it and go to the other item. DR. BIPLAB DASGUPTA: Sir, the Eledion Commission controlling the elections SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: Since in Cooperative institutions orthe Panchayats the Bill is simply in scope, it is not possible for would actually mean that the ruling .party at the Government to accept any of the the Centre would be controlling these elec.. amendments except the one technical tions. (/nt9n-uptions) amendment which we ourselves have moved for changing the year from 1990 to 1991. The MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: If you are other Bills are on circulation for eliciting making some suggestions, they are not go· opinion. It is a very simple Bill and so I think ing to be incorporated at this point of time. the em in its present form should be passed So, please refrain from making any sug- by the House. gestion. Let him complete his speech. At 5 o'clock, we are expected to start the dis- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We will take cussion on price rise. It is an item which has this Bill for passing tomorrow. to be started at 5 o'clock. If you aflow me, I will permit the hon. Minister to complete his SOME HON. MEMBERS: Sir, we can speech and Immediately after that. we can pass this Bill today itself. take up the discussion on price rise. There is no point in lMk'ng clarifications which cannot MR. DepUTY SPEAKER: I accept this 519 Chief Elect. Comm. & JANUARY 8, 1991 (Cond. of SSNice) Bill 520 other Elect. Conlnls. suggestion, but with one condition that you of service of the Chief Election Com- will not prolong the discussions on the missioner and other Election Com- amendments. missioners and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto be taken Dr. Venkatesh Kabde. would you like to into consideration." withdraw your amendment NO.6? The motion was adopt9d DR. VENKATESH KABDE (Nanded): I would like to make one comment. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House will now take up clause-by-clause consider- Regarding the appointment of Chief ation of the Bill. Election Commissioner. it has been said that no further controversy should be brought in. There are no amendments to clauses 2 about the present incumbent. In this case, I and 3. So. I put clauses 2 and 3 to the vote want to poin1 out that the suggestion of the of the House. Tarkunde Commission ... The question is: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Plea~cdontt go into the details. This would create com- "That clauses 2 and 3 stand part of the plication. I want to know whether you are Bill." withdrawing It or not. The motion was adopted DR. VENKATESH KABDE~ In the case of appointment of Chief Election Commis- Clauses 2 and 3 were add9d to the Bill sioner. the Prime Minister, the Supreme Court Chief Justice and the loader of the Clause 4 Opposition-these three persons-should be consulted. Term of Office

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: This is an MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri G.M. '" amendment which you have suggested for Banatwalla. circulation. At the stage of considEHt:l1 ion of the Bill. the first stage. yOll !;halt hav0 to let us SHRIG.M. BANATWALLA(Ponnani): I know whether you are going to withdraw beg to move: your amendment NO.6? Page 2.-- DR. VENKATESH KABDE: I withdraw ft. after line 34, insert-

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Has Dr. "(2) On ceasing to hold office- Venkatesh Kabde leave of the House to withdraw his amendment? (a) the Chief Election Commi$~ Sloner shall be ineligible for SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. further employment or office either under the Government of Amendment No. 6 was, hy !eave, with- India or under the C'1()vernment drawn of a State:

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER. ·11". .'qlv~stlon (b) any other Election Commis .. I~' stoner shall be eligible for ap· pointment as the Chief EJection "That the em to det4)f "tino Uto c..und~lions Commissioner, but shall not hu 521 Chief Elect. Comm. & PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) (Cond. of Service) Bill "522 0''''' Elect. Comms. eligible for any other employ- On that assurance of the hon. Minister ment or office either under the which I have elaborated, I seek the leave of Government of India or under the House to withdraw it. the Government of a State: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Has Shri (c) a Regional Commissioner shall G.M. Banatwatla leave of the House to with- be eligible for appointment as draw his amendment? an Election Commissioner or the Chief Election Commis- SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. sionor, but shall not be eligible for any other employment either Amendment No. 7 was, by leave, with- under the Governm~nt of India drc1wn or under the Governmont of a State: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Kabde, would you like to withdraw your amendment? Provided that the Chief Election Commissioner or any other DR. VENKATESH KABDE: I would like Election Commissioner or a to know why there is a difference in the age. Regional Commissioner shall, I want it shouid be sixty·five years. I would on expiration of his term of of- like to persist with my amendment. fice and subject to the provision of sub-section (1), be eligible, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now I put for reappointment to that office." the amendment No. 8 moved by Dr. (7) Venkatesh Kabde to the vote of the HOlJsp..

I hope he will accept it. Amendment No.8 was put and negatived

DR. VENKATESH KABDE: I beg to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: There are move: no amendments to Clause 5. So. I put ClausAs 4 and'S to the vote of the House. Page 2, line 25,- The qUf'stion is: for "sixty-two" substitute- "That Clauses 4 and 5 stand part of the Usixty-five" (8) Bitt'·

SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: Sir, if The motion was adopted you appoint men of charader and ability to the high office, they themselves know what ClaUS9S 4 and 5 wt?ro added to the Bill is perfect and what is not. I do not think we nced a law for that. MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: Shri Venkatosh Kabde. do you want to move your MR. OEPUTY·SPEAKER: In view of amcndmont to Clause 6? tho response of the Minister. would you like to withdraw? DR. VENKATESH KABDE: No, I am not movtno. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Hu has "H:lid that the entire OClrnut of $ludorallaw$ would be. considered by him. , hope at 1hat fv1R. nF:PUTY .. SPEAKER: ThE)re are time, due consideration wm be given to the no amendments to Clouse 7 and Clause 8. provisions made in my amendfllenl to th1$ So, I put clauses 6, 7 and 8 to vote of thc clause. Houso. 523 Chie,f Ell!ICt. Conun. & JANUARY 8, 1991 DJs.c. utJrltfr Rule 193 524 other E/9c.t. Conuus. Continued rise In prices in the country (Cond. of Service) Bill Now the question is: beg to move:

"That Clauses 6, 7 and 8 stand part of 1'hat the SUI, as amendfKt, be passed." the sm," MR. OEPUTY-SP~AKER: The ques .. The motion was adopt9d tion is:

Clauses 6, 7 and 8 were added 10 the Bill "That the Bill, as amended, be passed."

Clause 1 The motion was adoptsd

Short Title

SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: I beg 17.13 hr•• to move: DISCUSSION UNDER RULE 193 Page 1. line 6,- Continued Rise In Prices of Essentla I for 111990" substitute 111991". (5) Commodities in the Country

MR. DEPUTY SPE,A,KEA: The question MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House l·~·;:). will now take up discussion regarding rise in prices of essential commodities. Shri G.M. Page 1. line 6,- Banatwalla will now speak. (Interruptions)

ior "1990" substitute "1991". (5) SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI All (Kanpur): In the morning we were informed that the The motion was adopted Prime MlOister will make a statement regarding the Thomson Press affair and so I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKEH: Thequestion would request you to please allow him 10 is: make the statement now.

.rrhat Clause 1, as amendod, stand THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI part of the Bill." CHANDRA SHEKHAR): Mr. Deputy- Speaker. the statement is being prepared. The motion was adopted But I shall like to share the facts of the case as have been reported by the Haryana Clause 1, as amended, was added to the Government. According to the Haryana Bill Govemment, the dislocation 01 power in Thomson Press is because of some fault MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Thequestion and the fault was located. (Interruptions) is: SOME HON. MEMBERS: No. HThat the Enacting Formula and the long Title stand part of the Bill." SHAt CHANDRA SHEKHAR: Please hear me. When I discusaed betwetm 2.00 The motion was adopt(Jd and 3.00 PM, I was iftformed that workers are making afieffOtts to correct the fauJtsand The Enacting Formula and the long Title the .fedricity will be ",stored tbiS evening. were added to the Bill (/nUH1vptions)

SHRI SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY: Sir, I SHRI G.M. BANATWAUA (Ponnani): ' 525 Disc. under Rule 193 PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) in the country 526 Continued rise In price,

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the price situation 60.1 per cent. Such is the agonising aspect. in the country is extremely alarming. The as I said earlier. of the present inflation. The ra1e of inflation, as every one knows, had adibte-oits have recorded a rise of 18.3 per to\JChed the double digft figure of 10.9 per cent during the current year. This is also the cent by the week ended 8th December. 1990 case with various other essential items, the and 11.4 per cent on 15th December, 1990 details of which I do not want to go into now. as per the wholesale prir.e index. Further, as Various factors have indeed contributed to per the Consumer Price Index~ tho r~te of this rise in prices. A principal factor has been inflation had already touched 10.8 per cent ttie last Budget. A maximum increase of Rs. by even October. 1990. ThA cost of living 1790crores in the tax burden as per the last index has more than doubled to 11.4 per Budget of 1990"91 has accelerated the pace cent from 5.4 per cent in the 12 months. At of inflation. Similarly, the additiona' tax of Rs. this juncture, I would first draw the attention 847 crores from the increase in fare and of the Minister to the price situation during freight by the Railway Budget when it was the Sixth and the Seventh Plans. We have presented this time for the current year has found that during the Sixth Plan, the whole- also pushed up the rate of inflation. This was sale price index rose at an annual rate of 8.8 followed by the gulf surcharge of 25 per cent per cent and during the Seventh Plan, the on petroleum products. It is disturbing to find rate of growth had come down to 6.6 per that even the present Government went into cent. I may briefly remark that this modera- the foot-steps of the last Government and tion in price rise during the Seventh Plan was added to the inflationary pressures. We find because of larger drawings of food-stuffs an increase in customs and excise duties and because of the augument,ng of the announced on the 17th of December 1990 to supplies of essential commodities. Tho most mop up additional As. 1 ,340 crores. On the disturbing aspect. the most agoniSinG <~5pect top of it, \~ e have reduced import of essenti(ll of tho present price ri~>e (lnd Infbtion 1$ that commoditl~s even edible oils. No doubt, is tho ptlces of the pnmary prorlucts. primary foreign exchange crunch, the import re- at1icle!» which have been hit the most. We strictions, the effect of gulf crisis have allied find that primary food items have recorded a to the inflation. With respect to the gulf CriSIS, rise of 13.3 per cent. The non-food items like I must mention that hike in oil prices would fuol, power etc. have recorded a rise of even have multiple ef1ect on prices of transportation 17.5 per cent during th~se days. All this is and prices of primary articles consumed by thera despite the bumper crops and the the transport. All this will be badly affected. growth in the industrial production. We find that in the case of essential consumer items. I want to make certain concrete sug- the rate of inflation has registered a double gostions to the Government in the matter of digit. So, that is the agonising aspect of the control of inflation. In the first place, then? inflation. The most agonising aspect of the have to be adequate releases, adequate inflation being the prices of essential com- releases through the public distribution modfties being hit the most and having re- system of rice and wheat. , must here afso corded high double digits. I nm only for a plead the case of Karala and the need for comparative purpos, referring to a t ow it ems increasing the rice allotted to Kerala. Sir, this of ~ssentjal consumer articles and I ~ompare sf)nuld be possiltle, the Increase in the re- the rate of growth in 19S9.. 90 to 1990 .. 91. teases of rice and wheat and such art icles through public distribution system should be Sir. in the case of cereals, the rise in possible .n view of the fact that we have the price in 1989-90 was 4.9 per cent whereas highest ever procurement of rice and wheat during the period 1990.. 91 the rise is to the in the curtent year. We have to strengthen extsnt of 12.1 per cent. Pulses recorded a 1he public distributIOn system now by bring- rise of 11.2 per~ent in 1990.. 91. Vegetables ing more essential commodities under its led by such essential articles like onion. and purview. It is also necessary to make effortB potatoea haVG recorded a rfs8 in 1990.. 91 by 10 reduce the growth in money supplies. The 527 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUARY 8,1991 in the country 528 Continued rise in prices (Sh. G. M. Banatwalla) crease the rate of collection of outstanding taxes. If you go through the figures of the Federation of Indian Chambers of Com- taxes tha1 are outstanding, you will be merce and Industry has suggested that shocked. The figures run into thousands of money expansion be restricted to 12 per crores of rupees and despite repeated rec- cent per annum. They have suggested ommendations of the Public Accounts sflveral strict fiscal disciplinary measures. Committee-the details of which I do not go But apart from that, there is a great necessity into now due to the constraint of time-this for strict financial discipline and an effort to rate of arrears of taxation is continuing to reduce the growth or expansion in the money grow and has become alarming now. It aU supply which is also playing great havoc. It is shows that very little attention is being paid absolutely .nevitableto augment the domestic to the question of increasing efficiency of the supplies through even imports. of oourse, various taxation departments to collect these subjed to foreign exchange oonstraints. If arrears. prices have to come down, then the only way is that supplies have to be augmented. This I must thereforo plead with 1he Gov- augme"tation of supplies can only come ernment that instead of resorting to taxation, through greater imports, subject to financial a greater effort be made in order to increase nnd foreign exchange constraints and also the rate of clearing of the arrears of taxation. through augmentation in production. I must, It is our misfortune that tho year 1990-91 Will therefore, emphasise upon the need to in- go down in the history as the highest rate of crease agricultural output through better taxation measures, enormous amount has technology. Several technologies arc today sought to be mopped up through dangerous "vailable and all these tuchnolo!9it:Js !-.hould wiolding of taxation measures. , must be taken care of. We find todoy a bio-tech- therefore plead for releaf on this count and nology and genetic engineering. All !hese for increasing efficiency in the collection of should be drawn up in order to improve arrears of outstanding taxes. agricultural output. [ Translation1 There has to be a need to improve the productivity of the industria\ sector. I must SHRtCHANDRAM(Hardoi): Mr. Deputy here strike a note of caution. It is quite Speaker, Sir, the problem of increasing prices probable that during the remaining part of is undoutedly a serious thing and matter of the present financial year. that ;s dUring the concern not only for the Members of Parlia- remaining second half of the current finan- ment but also forthe entire country. HO'Nevor cial year, the industrial sector could slow it is not boing tackled properly. That is the down. It could slow down because of the greatest problem. forced restriction of petroleum imports-the res1 rictions that are forced upon lIs-;)nd the Hon'ble Rao Blrendor ~ngt1 is .sitting massive additional imposts announclJd by here who has gtlined exporioncG' (n all th~ the Government which ClffRc1s tho ,.. olporate ~itualions I.e. while in power and out of performance. power. So he should think seriously about it. The persisting problem of increasing prices I earlier remarked that this Government has been there inspite o11he fact that there also unfortunately, ;n thc} matter of mopping is no dearth of any thing in this country and

up greater resources i is following in the our gr4\lin production has increased mult_fold footsteps of the earlier Governmont through over att those years. The price situation has massive doses of indirect taxatior.. Here I belied the economic principle of demand would liko to emphasize that indeed there i~ and supply. For example there is a great a financial crunch. But instead of depending difference between the priees of v.egetable& more on additional taxation, specially the in the wholesale market and those in tho Indirect taxation, the need is greator to in .. neighbouring market place. It is equally true 529 Dist;. under Rule 193 PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) in the country 530 ContinuMJ rise in prices in respect of the wholesale prices and the come forward to audion their vegetables as general prices of wheat at the time of fresh they generally decide among themselves crop arrival which varies between R~. 200 not to purchase such vegetables which re· and Rs. 275. The benefit of price margin suits in a heavy loss to the farmers. It is a does not reach th& farmers. Instead it is routine affair. So I think that the government pocketed bythe1raders and hoarders. Similar should look in to it. Also the distribution is th~ situation in respect of doth and all system is not working properly in this country other items. Price of raw material stands at a because the distribution outlets in the rural very low level but as soon as it is turned out areas are allotted to such persons who are in the shape of a finished product, its price expert in hoarding and black marketing. To shoots up very high. In this regard what I avoid this situation, these outlets and fair want to emphasize is that there should be a price shops should be allotted to the people limit to earning profits. Outing my own tenure belonging to the weaker sections of thQ as a transport minister when the prices of society and the landless with the availability tyres showed a rising trend in the country of finance therefor. against the decline trend in the international prices of rubber. f wrote a letter to the Min- Even in India, the government should ister of industries asking him to explain the introduce the system of putting the price tag phenomenon of price rise in case of tyres. So for each item so that the customers may pick unless and until the industrialists ore :lsked up the item of their choice after paying thea to exercise control in respect of tho prices of price of it. These 3-4 things require the their products and prices thereot are fIxed by attnntion of the government. Under long the Government, the price~ will go on in~ term measur,=,s, we should increase our creasing with further generation of black production of coal, iron and tractors etc. An money which will also be not in their interest. increase in the price of these items will Since the days of Pandit Nehru we have automatically reflect in the overall level of seen the efficacy of MonopoJy and Restricted prices. Moreover I feel that I need not tell trade Practices Act which has in turn given anything to Mr. Rao in this regard as he rise to monopolies and has increased the knows everything and needs action on that number of hoarders. I think we should try the line. So he should not delay it anymore. way of dehoarding (Interruptions) because it is the element of ineffectiveness on the part With these words, I would like to thank of tho Government that gives a fillip to you. hoarding. But I think that even the present Government which is a minority Government SHRJ SA TYNAAA VAN JATfYA (Ujjain): can take an effective stop in this regard if it Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. it would be no chases to take up that five of action to go in exaggeration if we call 1990 as the year of for dehoarding and to unearth the entire increaSIng price~ because during the last stock of items hoa,ded by the traders. several years it has registered a steep rise Moreover the prices of aU the comnlodities which has been reflected in the consumer should b fixed by the government on the price Index. Taking 1982 as the base year basis of the cost thereof. Mr. Oevi,lal has with an index level of 100, we will find that referred to the continuing practice of auction during the last 7 years i.e. upto November in the grain market inspite of the price fixation 89, thQre has been an increase of 76 points of aft the grains. Even the present governmont with an annual average of 11 points. But by is in a position to take steps to contain prices October 1990 it has touched the mark of 195 if it stands up with a determination to achieve showing an aV9rage increase of 19 points that end. So the Govornmont should taka which is quite a sharp rise. The worst sufferprs steps to unearth all the items hoarded by the on that account have been the people living traders. One more problem is faced by the in the rural areas of the country because 70 farmers when the vegetables produced by percent of their income rs spent up on the them go on rottlng and the agents do not. Head of their food and whenever the prices 531 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUARY 8, 1991 Continued ,ise in prices

(Sh. Satyanarayan Jatiya] measures to give retta' to the 50 Clores population of villages as they have suffered of foodgrains increase. it definitely affects most on the account. . the rural population. However during the last three years we have seen that inspite of an Sir, the public had done a good thing to Increase in OUt foodgrain production, the bring about a change of power but increas- prices showed a rising trend. We did not ing prices have added to their mi~eries. think in terms of higher production and Hence there should be a change in the continued to import foodgrains because we existing situation. The government should thought that to increase production is a diffi- take adequate measures to make the essen· cult thing. But we should realise that to go in tial commoditios Le. food, cloth and shelter for import is a more difficult preposition. t-iad available for the common man. That is alii we made our efforts to mobilise our resources want to say at the moment. to increase our production, we would have put an end to such an eventuality in the [English) coming years. That is why I would like to urge upon the government to go ahead to increase SHRI P. NARSA REDDY (Adilabad): the production of foodgrains and to b;'ln the Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, price rise is draw- import thereof. ing the attention of the entire country and I must congratulate Mr. Acharia for initiating The position in respect of inflfltlon has this discussion. I would not take much of the also not been good because it went on time allotted. So far as statistics are con· increasing. Against a figure of 40000 crares earned. my hon. friend, Mr. Banatwalla had of rupees in circulat ion in 1985, it has touched shown thu rate of index which has grown up the mark of 81000 crares in 1990 registering from a single digit to a double digit. The only a more than double incraase during a period question is in what manner prices could be of five years. With this soaring inflationary brought down. Two essential features are to trend, we cannot expect a fall in the prices. be looked into in this regard. Firstly. deficit Even the expectations of the government in financing has to be put down with a firm hand this regard have proved false. Even otherwise and also see that the essential commodities we can see that a steep rise in the prices of are supplied in a better manner. And there petroleum products and a higher rait freight must also be growth in agriculture. Even the with a resultant costlier transport has sub· Mover of the Resolution had blamed the stantially contributed to the phenomenon of Congress that one year back, before the Increasing prices. The govornment, should. National Front Government took power, the therefore. pay special attention to achieve coffers were empty and that the deficit fi- higher production with a view to make more nancing had exceeded so much due to which and more things available for the common prices have gone up. I want to ask the hon. man. Members of the National Front as to what steps the NF Government had taken in order Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, today we have to curb the rise in prices. The Finance Min- a dual price system in this country; While ister 'had, time and again, announced that introducing this system, the government there would be a 10 per cent cut in aU the might have thought that it will make the expendHure on the Central Budget, thereby essential commodities availabt9 for tho poor a saving of Rs. 4000 to Rs. 5000 CTores may through the Fair Prico ~,hops but eve" this come up. He had also announced that there system stands plagued by corruption. Be- would bflt a cut of 20 per cent of the Ministers cause of the non avaIlability of essential and officers going abroad so that foreign commodities in the rural areas where they exchange may be saved. Nowt t want to ask required most, the rural peopfe have suffered the Government as to how much. has the most. I am sure that in V jaw of the aforesaid Finnnce Ministor saved by this announce- situatfon, the government will take udc1uate mont to hring down the deficit finance and 533 Disc. under Rule 1!l3 PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) in the country 534 Continued ,ise in pric9s see that the economy witt grow. On the creased produdion and that would help the contrary, when it was said that the coffars nation. were empty and longer and better epithets were pronounced saying that there would be So far as paddy is concerned, though remodelling of priorities decentralisation of the prices are announced, those do not strudures, more emphasis on quality of IHe, reach the farmers. The farmer is not given nothing of this sort had come forward inspita that price. Unless the incentive price an- of the announcement by the Finance Minister nounced by the Government reaches the of the National Front Govemment. It was farmers in a proper way. the Government also said that a new initiative would be taken cannot exped that there would be greater to restructure the agricuJture. What initiative produdion, and, therefore, the unequitable was taken to restrudure the agriculture, when arrangement that would be made both by the the announcement regarding waiver of loan Centre or the State would not be of any to farmers came. The Finance Minister had assistance. said that the Government might have to forego As. 14000 crores for this, but he only Thirdly, the imported oil was mixed with put Rs. 1000 crores in the Budgel. Also, the the local Product and sold. They say that the manner in which the loan waiver took place, cutting down of oil import has also affected it has only helped the rich farmers. Earlier, the prices of oil very much~ Therefore. all the Finance Minister had said that it would be aspects of such articles which are very es- confined only to small and marginal farmers sential for the common man must be prop- and that too, to those who had taken a loan erly looked into. up to Rs. 10000. Subsequently, under pressure, he said that even if a farmer took Procurement system in respect of paddy a loan of more than Rs.1 0000. even he if he is most important and the Government must took a lakh, he would be extended this facility bestow its attention to it. Merely blam ing the of waiver of Rs. 10000. Hon Members of the Congress Government which was in power National Front did not say a word that this is a year ago would not help bring down the not in favour of the poor, nor is it going to help prices. Government will have to act, will have the economy. They kept mum. On the oon- to show in what manner they are better and trary, in his budget proposal, the Finance in what manner they are taking steps. That Minister gave away Rs. 900 crores to the must be shown. corporate sector. Even in direct taxation, Shri Pande, ChairmRn of the Diruct Taxes SHRI A.K. ROY (Ohanbad): Mr. Oeputy~ Board, who has retired rec('ntly, hNi said Speaker, Sir. it is the custom of this House to that the Government had erred on personal have a debate on price rise in every session income tax and the gift of As. 250 crores to and it is also the custom of the price rise to the soaealled troubled persons, who were continue as before. paying income tax on income more than Rs. 21000 had brought further ruin to the Many hon. Menlbers have already given economy. confusing data and I do not want to add, more confusion to that. But one thing is clear. Today. if you want agricultural produc- Money supply is increasing in double digit, tion to increase, mere announcement that production in single digit and CPI or WPI is prices would be increased is not sufficient: raising in a very unpredictable way. At present there must be infrastructural arrangement it appears as if it is moving towards some so that eff9CtiYe implementation of the price unknown destination. In this particular situ- support policy is adequately attended to not ation 1 rise to ask only a few things which only by the Central Government, but the have come to my mind. State Governments shoutd also sea tha1 the prices announced as ~UPfJOrt pt ictlS reach Firstly, what IS the magic in the hands of the growers. Only then, thE're would be in .. those who control our market by which Adam 535 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUARV 8,1991 In ",. country 536 Continued rise in prices

(Sh. A.K. Roy} crease the oilseed prbduction in the country. Actually, the oilseed production is stagnant Smith's supply .. demand relationship has and to some extent it has decreased. Today been upset. That must be explained first. our oilseeds production is less than what we were producing in 1988-89. In a formal ques- All the parties are united or rather com- tion I suggested that other areas also must peting with each other in condemning be encouraged to grow oil seeds. It is not as hoarding. We all have pointed out that the though Gujarat alone can produce ground- evil ;s hoarding and black marketing. So, nuts. , have submitted to the Government when aU the parties are united on this par- that a vast area in the Chotanagpur Region ticular evil then what is preventing the Gov- which is bigger than Gujarat, area-wise,and ernmenttoda-hoard. That must be explained. Puruliya District in West Bengal are also It is notthat some party is supporting hoa rding suitable for oilseeds cultivation. The soil in and some other party is supporting black- these regions is tested and it is found that it marketing, and, therefore, it is creating dif- is very good for the production of oilseeds. ficulty for the Government to be harsh with You have also answered it. Now also I pro- the hoarders and black-markateers. When pose the same. Why don' you startgroundnut all the parties are one with it then what is the production in the Chota Nagpur region? You difficulty in de-hoarding and coming ruthlessly enoourage the State Government. give the on the persons who are playing with our cultivators some incentives so that these essential commodities. vast areas can be utilised. If the climate fails in one area, it will be compensated in another If you see. the price rise is in the double area. digit. Basically the rise is in the prices of essential commodities which hurt the com- Secondly, I would like to mention about mon man the most. It has increased to more ricebran oil. We are producing nearly 751akh than 12 per cent. The primary articles con- tonnes of rice. But we are producing only 3 stitute nearly 36 points in the price index. Oil lakh tonnes of ricebran. We can produce and other fuel constitute 10 per cent. I can more ricebran. We can enact a law that all understand that the Gulf crisis has aHected the mills who remove the husk from the rice the secondary articles that is the fuel, coal must have a device to extract oil from the and oil etc. which con s,t it ute only 10 per cent. ricebran. This way we can increase our Actually the rise in pric.es is less U,is year domestic supply. I do not support import of compared to the last year. In March 1!l89 we oil and spending precious foreign exchange. had 10 million tonnes of food grains which last time we imported 1.6 million lonnes of increased to 20 million tonnes and now it is oil by spending nearly one thousand crores nearing 17milliontonnes. We expect to have of rupees. We do not want that. In this way a 25 million tonne record food stock this and by austerity and planning, we can tide year. So. I don't know what prevents the over the difficulties and increase our oilseeds Government from checking the price rise. production.

The only question is about the edible oil But you must keep the middle fador in which contribute to 2.2 per cent in our price mind. What is the middle factor that comes in index. It is true that the production of odible and takes away the whole thing? Your grain oil was less by 15 to 16 per cent this year but produdion is there; your foodgrain stock is edible oil does not come under the category there; your pulses are there; and your of Qsscntial commodity as the CIJrbohydrnte godowns are there. But prices are increas- and Protein. The whole thing depend on the ing.lwanttopointouton.thing. The Finance demand management. supply management Ministar is not here. When you think over it, and production managem&nl alld that can you witt be surprised. Ther. is some defor· be adjusted. I would like to know what steps matico in our entire economic system. Pre- have been taken by the Government to in- viously 70 per cent of our population de- 537 DiSC. under Rule 193 PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) in the country 538 Continued rise In prices

pendent on primary sector, that is agricul .. villages, so many vegetables, cereals and ture, used to contribute more than 46 to 50 other things are grown. They are sent to per cent to our national income. Five to ten cities like Delhi for storage. So, they are per cent population dependent on the sec- stored in godowns and cold storages before ondary sector, that is the minerals. oras and they are distributed to the poor people living other infrastrudura, used to contribute 10 in villages. Just to carry these things again to per cent to our economy. The tertiary sector same villages for re-distribution and transport with hardly 5 to 10 per cent population used charges the prices are being increased. to oontribute to national income by about 25 Another prob1em is that percapita income of per cent. Now. what has happened after a poor person per day is As. 1.25. Becausp. these 40 years of perverted, deformed capi- of this rise in prices, the very survival of a ,talistic development? The percont~ge of poor person becomes very difficult. The rich population dependent on ~tJrir.lIf~tJre re- people, with their power, blackmoney, by mained the same but their contribution to our hoarding and profiteedng, are enjoying a lot. national income was reduced to less than 30 But you cannot compare them with rich people per cent. The secondary sector, that is the of America or any capitalist country. The rich manufacturing sector, remained stagnant. of India are enjoying more. But the tertiary sector with hardly 5 per cent people, which is a parasitic, non-productive In rural areas, on Deepawali festival, sector, the so calted servicing sector has they used to purchase only 5 Kgs of gur increased its share to more than 40 per cent. sugar and if possible, they used to keep Hardly 5 per cent people are controlling 40 them till next Deepawali Le. control on con- per cent of our national income! sumption. So, use the gur five kg for full twelve months. But in the Five Star Hotels MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please society you can see a number of varieties of conclude. Whisky bottles upto Rs. 3000/... In the Five Star Hotels, you can see a numberof rooms, SHRJ A.K. ROY: I want to knovi why some rooms are rented per day upto As. 7 or more than 70 per cent pl~oplQ in ti"lu primary e thousand by rich people. It is, even the rise sector are having only 29 pAr cAnt? You in prices in 3 digits is not going to affect them. must also find out.how 5 per cent people in It is only affecting the poorest of the poor. the tertiary sector control 40 per cent of our What I want to suggest is that, distribution of national income. If you can find out this commodities should be in the hands of the mystery, perhaps then, we can handle the poor people so that they may be able to situation more competently. Thank you, Sir. manage their own economy and godown. Godowns should be in the villages itself. If 18.00 hra. you do H, then they can automatically come out from the clutches of the rich people who SHRI HET RAM (Sirsa): Mr. Deputy are meant for eaming profits by sucking the Speaker, Sir, as you are aware. the prices blood of these poor people. are going up. There are several factors which are responsible for rise in prices. There are The other problem ;s that due to many so many micro and macro reasons that are micro and macro reasons, the prices are put forward behind this rise in pricAs. rising. I w.lnt to bring to the notice of the hon. Minister-J have h~gh regard for Rao Sahib- Firstly, some pAOple helvO ~ojd the rate that due to rise in prices, prevailing unem- of inflation has gone upto two d!oi'~. Secondly, ployment and for lack of resources and so some people have said that production is on. many people are tuffering in our country. very less as compared to the demand. Thirdly, It is not the question of having money. He some people have said that distribution is may not be having anything. He may be neft proper. Some peopfo have also said that empJoyed as an agricultural labourer. He tr~n$pOrtation charges ar$ increasing. In may be earning Rs. 5 to As. 25. But here 539 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUAFlY 8, 1991 in th9 country 540 Continued rise in prices ISh. Hat Ram] gets presented by various State Govern- ments and by the Contral Government. The again the question of price rise comes. So, deficit budgets are more responsible for the you must keep one thing in mind and that is price rise. The previous Government of Shri how to saV9 tho poorGst of poor people: that V.P. Singh had promis$d to check inflation is the micro level people. Even if the .inflation as well as rising prices but contrary to it the rate goes upto 3 digits or 4 digits it is not inflation rate has surpassed all the previous going to affect the living standnrds of the rich records during the last 11 months. When the people. The rich people will be able to mdnage last budget was presented. the House and lllemseives. It will only affect the poorest of tJarticularly the Members of B.J.P. expressed the poor who is not h3ving any fond or their concern over the deficit projected in the resources or work and who is havIng ten budget and warned that it would lead to price family members. And in his family he is the escalation in the country. ,Who suffers from only person who is earning a living. So, you the price rise? It mainly affects those peoplo, should keep this factor in mind and restruc- who are farmers and constitute 85 per cent ture the same. You should also restructure of the population as well as the largest chunk the pricing system. You should also control of consumers in the country and mostly live the pricing mechanism. H you do so, it may in villages. It is only the big farmers who have greatly help the poor people, who have no got benefit from the increase in prices be· resources at all. (Interruptions) cause of their increased production. The small farmers, having 4-5 acres of land, are AN HON. MEMBER: Sir, there is no the worst sufferers of price rise and it has Interpretation available. disturbed their mental peace because the cost of production has gone up due to rise in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKEn: Mr. prices. With the flse in electricity and water Kuppuswamy. did you inform that you were charge5, and increase in prices of seeds and going 10 speak in TClmil? t~rtilisers, the farmers owing upto 1 0 acres of land are mentally disturbed and are on the SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY brink of starvation in the country. It is only (Coimbatore): Yes, Sir; I did. because 01 price rise. And to my mind even if the Government intends to check the price MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please take rise, it will not be able to succeed. Han. Pdme your seat now, Mr. Kuppuswamy. Someone Minister, has himself confessed if we do not will speak now. We will make some ar- get foreign loans. it wiU be difficult for the rangements. Now Mr. Agnihotri. Government even to pay two months salary bills of the Central Government employees. We have discussed this matter for a It is almost certain thot there witt be further pretty long time. The time fixed was two rise in prices. Therefore it is nece5sary for hours: we have discussed it for more than 3 the Government to contemplate measures 112 hours. I would request Members to be to check deterioration in the standards of very brief I and not to repeat the' points already living of the masses which is going down made. rapidly due to price rise and also to take measures to make available essential com- [ Translation] modities to the consumers at reasonnbla prices to chock growing disiJIusionment. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI (Jhansi): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the I come from tho plateau region of UHar phenomenon of continued rise in prices ;s Pradesh-Bundelkhand, where 60 percent of spreading like jungfe fire throughout the the population conststs of labourer and poor langth and breadth of the country as a result farmers. Ono thing t can say with certainty ofthewrongeconomicpoliciesof1hepr~wjolls that at present in BundeJkhand region, the Congress Government and the d~fidt bud- condition of th9 farmers is very miserable. 541 Disc. under Rule 193 PAUSA 18,1912 (SAKA) in the country 542 Contlnu9d riS9 in prices They have got nothingto aat and no kerosene of the Housa. I risa only to make those points to light their houses, due to low production. and do not want to take more time of the Farmers have no money to make purchases Hauss. and they find it very difficult 10 buy daily necessities for their sustenance. They are There should be a public sector inter- unable to buy kerosene to light their housas vention in the wholesale trade. This has not in the night. Such is the condition of the yet been mentioned. The intervention can be people of Bundelkhclnd. Therefore, I would in two ways~ (1) Squeezing of public financial like to say one thing about the pI e~Ullt state institutions' advances to the trade sector. It is of continuing rise in prices. that unless the timetnatoureconomy hasa large intervention Government exercise effective control over of the public sector in the wholesale trade the price scenario by making available es- itself. Without it, the talk of an effective public sential commodities at reasonable prices, it distribution system, I believe, is meaningless. can't hope of ameliorating the condition of I. therefore, suggest that on these two points weaker sections, middle income group and the Minister should give his comments. salaried class people. The prices of goods available at fair price shops are continuously We were raising this question since the going up. On the one hand prices are going Budget was presented by the earlier Gov- up and on the other people are finding it ernment. We insisted that even if the petrol difficult to procure these goods. Nowadays prices cannot be reduced, try to reduce the the poor, farmers and labourers find it diffi- diesel prices. If the diesel prices can be cult to procure wheat, rice. kerosene and reduced, then a good deaf of rise in prices other essential items from the fClir priro shops. can be controlled. It is the diesel which When they return empty handed from the affects prtces in the country-side, in agricul- ~hops, they realise the gr,duity of lilt) prob~ ture output; It IS the diesel which affects the lem. Every man is very perturbed b~c;tuseof entire tran ... port system and adds to the cost the rise in prices. First of all there is no item of the transport. So, if you can persuade the available of the fair price shops and whatever Finance Minister, if you can persuade the is available, it is distributed in an arbitrary Cabinot to reduce the prices of diesel, then and corrupt way. There is absolute corrup- you Will be able to have an impact on the tion at the fair price shops and nobody gets price spiral. goods from there. Thorefore to check the price rise effectively, my only submission to the Government is to make available essential This is a delicate subject. I know it is goods to the middle income group people, almost treason to utterthis kind of a statement. farmers, labourers and salaried class people That is how people react to it. That is how at reasonable prices. Thus, the increasing 'peopJe react to it. I am referring to Defence prices are creating numerous evifs in the expenditure. It is known that our of Rs. country besides disillusionment and unrest 140uO crores of Defence expenditure, ap- among the people. Only if the prices are proximately Rs. 5000 crores of Defence brought under control, it will be possible to expenditure is in the form of imports. Nobody oxefeise effective check on these things. says that our D~fence strength should ba weakened. It is not that. I have been in the Public Accounts Committe& While in the Rajya [English] Sabha and today' while in the Lok Sabha. I know how much waste takes place. how SHRI NIRMAl KANTI CHATTERJEE much In the name of imports-Bofors is just (Dumdum): There have been plenty of an ~)(ample of that-we waste our money in suggestions about what should be done and importing Oefenoe equipment and Defence why this price s~yatron is gong aut of controt~ material. tf you give a close fook to it, just Now, my agreement Wfth Many of the sug .. imagine the figure of Rs. 5000 crores which gestions remains. But there are a few point is just about our batance of trade deficit and which have not been broughl1o the ~tt."tion Rs .. 5000 QrofSS wh1ch is about 'a size of our 543 Jisc. under Rule 193 JANUARY 8, 1991 in the country 544 Continued rise in prices

[Sh. Nirmal Kanti Chatterjee) which I made, when you kindly permitted me.

internal deficit that is all spent on imports. If MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: 'fhank you. we give a close scrutiny, if we apply our Mr. Kuppuswamy, have you informed that mind, that figure we will realise it. I know you were going to 5peak in Tamil? because I am in the Consultative Committee also, that it is very difficult to reduce the SHRt C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: I h3ve in- revenue expenditure and the inflation comes formed the interpreter. Hf' is not here. not because of our loans for plan expenditure but because of loan financing in order to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Whom did meet our revenue expenditure, the revenue you inform? Have you informed in writing? side consumption. If we borrow funds in ord~r to make Government consumption SHAI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: I have in- possible, that is the guaranteed way of spi- formed him. ralling prices. And from the revenue expenditure we know the object:ve. You cannot go MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You do not back from your interest commitments, you have to inform him. You have to inforM us so cannot go back from the expenditure you that we co.n keep him rendv. make on the s31aries und w:;lJes of Gov- ernment servants, and you cannot go back Shri Sharma. really on the food subsidies. becaus8 if you cut the food subsidies you will put pressure [Translation) on the prices. Therefofl~, the other aroa. IS the Defence expenditurH, without weakening, SHf11 DHARM PAL SH,\RMA I underline ugain and I repeat it, \'Jithout (Udhal11pur): Mr. Deputy Speakpr, Sir, the weakening our Defence strength there is prices of the commodities of common use scope for cilfting down Defence expenditure have sky-rocketted wr.ich is resulting in dIf- and in terms of imports too. This is another ficulties for the commoll man: area to which I want to draw your attention to. Presenting the Budget, Shri Madhu Dandvate had shown a deficit of ns. 720 And lastly, of course, try to find out crores but it has now increased to Rs. 1400 which other ar£as are there. [3Gcause the crores. Moreover. tho National Front had reasons for this have already been stated. It promised durina Alections thal the price will is the accumulated liquidity over the last be brought down. The prices have incrcz:~('rl cfecnde that is IC3ding to that. That liquicJity is because taxes worth Rs. 1790 crorf'S have not in the honds of the Government. That been levied. Similarly, taxes worth Rs. 947 lic;uid,ty is in the hands of the black money crores h;"}ve been levied by the Railways Q.:rrk'rs. IthJ tradurs. And if you can do that, also. In andition to this 2S percent surcharge ih'Jugh it IS (l sugG8stion which is nc! relevant h~s been imposp.d on petrok~um prodlf~s tu you but relev,wt 18:llly to the Finance also beCLlLJSe of gulf ~'tuation. All the~e have Llilnlstry, if WfJ can ~Iren~then our rovenue resulted in spiralling of pric()~. Situation has u;lrninu S1:lff, In lil;)1 W<:ly it would be betto!". become ~o grave that Dald~ is being sold D1 I! yl~d s~)I-·nrl nnA mnr(' rupee by employing a Rs. 40 a kg, mustord oil at As. 37 per ~g, f(·'.'/ rn(HP ~.)(:lr~'):~s on th·.. ~ revonue side, you wheat flour at Rs. 4.5 a kg and pulso~ are t::,il n much mor8 tli()!! one rupee in terms of bping sold at Rs. 171h 1 B per kg. The com- tilXoS Tl1at is one way of plugging black mon man has been crushed under these incumo once agnin. which is generated not prices. Some of my friends say that prices only in the wholes~!e soctor but in various had increased during the Congress regime. olh('r 58l,tors. I would like to say that in 1988-89, the Tilese are the suggestions which I fc()1 (...ount,y hAd to fncH the sever6st drought of W{'1 ~ !lot submittp.J beforp. thG Hou~;n and the ccntul i. F~.3. 800 crores were spert Oil 545 Disc. under Rule 193 PAUSA 18.1912 (SAKA) in the country 546 Continued rise in prices

Rajasthan only. Similarly, Rs. 12 to 14 hun- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please. do dred crores were given to Gujarat abo be- not repeat. cause that State was also sf)veroly arrected. Not a single person had died of hunger in SHRI DHI\RM PAL SHARMA: Effective those days because of the full stocks of measure should be adopted; stock should foodgrains. So far as the development of be controlled, hoarders should be raided. economy is concerned, even during that The entire House agrees to these sugges- period we had a domestic growth of 4.9 tions. The increasing prices have made the percent. This had happened in 1988-89 when life of the poor, the labourers and salaried country had to face a severe drought. Infla- class miserable. Steps should be taken to tion was 9.1 percent at the time. But during ameliorate their condition. their regime, the inflation has increased much. The condition is such that the foreign reserves SHRI MITRA SEN YADAV (Faizabad): have shrunk to only Rs. 2500 crores. Re- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. the problem we are garding foreign exchange. the stockiest have discussinn today is the biggest problem of started thinking that this Government of the country and affects the people of the speculation will not resort to imports. It is a country. In our country, 50 percent of the matter of happiness that few days back the people live below the poverty line. The way Commerce Minister stated that they will be these puople bear the burden of the prices- importing edible oils. It should b~ uune. The incl ease is a matter which has no precedent. prices have gone quite high. Regarding edible oils, I would like to suggest that a limit for In the villages the salt which earlier used stock of these items should be fixed for to be sold at 80 paise a kg. is being sold stockiest and retailers. BJP has taken one between Rs. 1.40 per kg. 10 As. 2 per kg. benefit of supporting the Government and Kerosine oil is not being sold at Rs. 5 a titre that is that stockiest have not been raided. whereas it was being sold earlier for Rs. 4 a The biggest reason for such a situation is the litre. mismanagement of the economy. The other reasons are, heavy taxation surcharge on MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There are no petroleum products due to Gulf situation and two opinions that the prices have increa~od. collusion. (/nte"uptions) SHRI MITRA SEN YADAV: Similarly. SHRI SHOPAT SINGH MAKKASAR the prices of rice has gone up from Rs. 12 to (Bikaner): Start raiding them now.· (Inter- 18, pulses are being sold now at Rs. 17 as ruptions) against the earlier rate of Rs. 13; the mustard oil pricos have Jumped up from Rs. 26 to Rs. SHRI DHARM PAL SHARMA: I would 36. During the la~t 3 to 4 month, the prices of like to say that for brinoma thr. priCE'~ down, all the commorfities have incroased so much massive procurement of foocigrains should that the life has become miserable. After all be done. Last time it was of 11 7.50 lakh how it happens that we do not have salt to put tonnes. This time it shouid for more quantity. in the pulses, and the salt-seller becomes a It is true that the prices of lyres have in- millionaire. The earthen lamp in our house creased. Shri Devi Lal has given relief to the goes off but the man who sells oil becomes farmers and I support the measure. Pro- a millionaire. In the month of March, the iron, curement price has been increased. That is coal and cement dealers earn crores of a right step. It should continue through differ- rupees. Whir.h is that mnQic want which A.,t measures. On 17 December, 1990, taxes, makes the traders millionaire~ and the Excise and Custom Duties 10 the tune of Rs. farmers paupers? Is the hon. Minister awarp 1340 were imposed. I oppose this. This will of such a thing? More the measures are lead to increase in prices. Unlass harsh taken. more the prohlorn hecomes grave. measure are taken, things are not properly A!ongwith the increase in faCilities Clnd con- managed ... (Inter""uptions) cessions to the CHiCf~l~ ~nd Mini~ters the 547 Disc. und9f Rule 193 JANUARY 8.1991 in the country 548 Continued rise in prices

[Sh. Mitra Sen Yadav) staps that have been taken by tha Govern- ment to reduce the deficit are such that it will burden on the poor is also increasing. Our become difficul1 for the poor to make both money in the banks is being taken by the ends meat. In the name of GuH crisis, the traders who use it for hoarding the foodgrains Government has increased the price of the intheirgodowns. They seJlthesecommodities kerosine oil but has not touched the price of at prices of thair own choice and the Gov- LPG. What else can be more anti·poor? emment is not in a position 10 take action against them because it knows that if it takes The han. Members have given sug- adon against them. it will come down itself. gestions. I would not repeat them. I would ft is beyond the capacity of the Government only say that if the Government is sincere in to take action in this regard. bringing prices down, it should link the salaries with the productivity. Now' will give certain suggestions. One is that the distribution system should be The subsidy that is given is taken back strengthened. the farmers should be given through back door. This subsidy system remunerative prices for their produce, the should be done away with. The price rise is bank loans to the traders should not be given not because we are giving subsidy. It is not to that extent that they may purchase and that we are producing the foodgrains cheaply. hoard the essential commodities. Another On the contrary, subsidy is causing price suggestion is that the infructuous expendi- rise. In 1960. the purchasing power of rupee ture like the facilities and concessions given was quite high. Whatever we could purchase to the bureaucrats and Ministers should be for Rs. 11 at the time is now available for As. stopped and the losses being incurred by the 100. Thus purchasing power of the rupee is big corporations, which run in crores of ru- coming down, whereas the prices are in- pees, should be stopped. It has b~en ob- creasing. It has become difficult for the poor served that the big officers like I.A. S. officers to make both ends meet. Hthis is the definition keep on enjoying at the Government cost of the WeHare State then the democracy in and spend money indiscriminately When India will be in danger. This aspect should be someone wants to take action against them. taken care of by the Go·-ternment as well as it is found they have already retired. No by the House and the people of his country action is possible against them at that time. and colledive efforts should be made to The Government does not have guts to take bring the prices down. For this, even if some deterrent action &0 as to control the someone has to sacrifice something. he price rise which is crushing the people of the should do this. The Government should form country, 500/0 of whom are li'Viny below the a policy that for the next 10 years at teast the poverty line. The people sitting on the trea- salaries and tho prices are frozen. sury benches keep on appreciating the Government which please them. We oppose With these suggestions I thank you for the Govemment on the issue of price rise but the time gwen to me. the Government does not pay heed to our views. Therefore, I would say that Govern- (English] ment must take some steps against price rise if they have any. DR. THAMBI DURAl (Karur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on behaH of my party, I would S. ATtNOER PAL SINGH (Patials): Mr. like to say a few words on the subject of price Deputy Speaker. Sir, I do not want to repeat rise in our country. I remember that in my what has already been said but J want to coHege days, my lecturer of Economics bring to your kind notice that the Governn;ent used to deliver the lecture and say that the borrowings from the Resnrve Bank of India day may come when we may have to go the are increasing by 14 percent whereas the market w.th a bttSket of money and come deficit is going to be more then double. Tho back with only a few handful things. I thought 549 Disc. under R,lle 193 PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) in the countty 550 Continued rise in prices that stage may come after some time, but in are increasing. We are only having Gulf our period itself we are noticing such kind of crisis now. But even before the Gulf crisis, things taking place. The galloping inflation increase in the pricas of diesel and petro- which has now started in our country. to what leum produdS started in our country. What- extent it will go, we do not know. ever kind of economy we want to have. we cannot dispense with this kind of essential Price rise affects the common man, commodities in our country. Even though we especially the labour cla~s. Whatever salary are having shortage of foreign exchange, it is or wages they are getting are very low. At the the duty of the Government to see that the same time, when the prices are increasing, petroleum products are imported. They have their purchasing power is becoming very to import all these products and try to distribute low. This is because of our fiscal policy. I them in a proper manner. By this at least the remember when Prof. Madhu Dandavate motor vehicles in our country can get suffi- had assured the House that his budget Jeficit cient diesel. This is also one ofthe contributory may not be a big one in course of time. He fRctors leading to the rise in prices and we had announced that. But because of the are suffering a lot because of that. wrong policy adopted by the National Front Government, the prices are increasing at an I do not want to go into details because alarming scale. " we fail to arrest this kind of o~ the limited time at my disposal. Only one inflationary trend in our country, the common point which I would like to make is that there man will definitely suffer. For that, the Gov- is a lot of corruption going on in the fair price ernment has to take so many measures, shops in Tamil Nadu. I want to b_ring to the especially with regard to distribution system. notice of the hone Minister for taking neces- The consumer products must reach the sary action because in Tamil Nadu they are consumer in such a manner that he can get distributioning bogu~ ration cards and them at a reasonable prtce. For distribution whatever the Central Government is giving of consumer products, we are having ration by way of palm oil and rice, it is going shops but the number of ration shops that we somewhere. are having is not sufficient. In rural areas, for so many hamlets we are having one ration AN. HON. MEMBER: Is it because you shop. Sometimes the distance that tho)' have belong to AIADMK? (Interruptions) tl) cover is five krtometres, ten kl!ometres because we are saying that thousand card DR. THAMBIDURAI: When the Marxist holders must come to purchase the things at Member is suggesting like this, what can I one r(=ltion shop. It may be convenient for he say? It is because you know, you have read ur ban people to go to the ration shop. in the newspapers that Sri Lanka militants Therefore, I request the hone Minister to take are smuggling diesel and other essential ... note of this. No doubt we are having ration commodities. Here it is the poor people and shops in rural areas, but each hamlet must the labourers who are affected. Therefore, have its own ratiOn shop_ If we are not able let the Central Government take necessary to provide such kind of facilitios especially in action to see that whatever good commodi- rural areas, the rural people will suffer a lot. ties are given to the State properly reach the If you take even the petroleum products, you common man in our State. Thank you. will find their prices are also increasing. If you go to any town or even any part of the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Surya country, you will find that diesal is not avail- Narayan Vadav. Please be brief. able. To get dleset, the torries are w~iting in queue for kilometres together. If you a~ e not [Translation] nble to provide sufficient diosel and pot, 01 for the vehicles, it is very difficult for them 10 SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV transport goods from one part of the oountry (Saharsa): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. f have to the othar. Because of that also the pric4s heard the Congress Members. Acoording to 551 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUAnV 8.1991 in lhe countf)' 552 Continued rise in pric9S

[Sh. Surya Narayan Yadav] items, the prices are increasing. Just now one of our hone Member was saying that a them, the prices have skyrocketed since the particular brand of soap which we used to time the National Front Government come to purchase for ona rupee 5--6 years back was power. We are discussing in the House the being sold for As. 6.00 a cake when Shri VP price rise in the country. Hwe do not discuss Singh came to power but now its price has it sincerely and honestly, the prices cannot gone up to Rs. 6.50. come down. The Congress has ruled this country for 40-45 years. They have polluted I admit that there has been price rise our economy to such an extpnt that the during the regime of our party but this has prices have gone out of control. When the happened because of complicated and wrong National Front Government came to power, economic policies prevailing earlier. We are our Prime Minister Shri V.P. Singh had stated not responsibfe forthis. Mr. Deputy Speaker, that the coffers were empty but in$pite of Sir. th~hon. Minister. when he was AgricuHure that, he would streamlinetha economy of the Minister had announced that all factory country. But what have we seen? When we products wiD have fixed prices written on were ready to solve the different issues, the them along with the taxes applicable. I would Congress and BJP together brought the like to ask Mr. Rao whether he implemented Government down. DUring the 40 years of thIs decision? H they could not do that it was misrule of the Congress. the prices have their fault not ours. jumped up beyond any bodts control. Today the farmers are not getting remunerative Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, you are ringing priceS for their produce. On the other hand. the bell and time is also short. Therefore, I the middlemen buy foodgrains from the would like to give one or two suggestions farmers and sell them on high rates and this and conclude. When there is any clamity you is done with the help of the Congressman. I try to provide relief by sending the supplies have detailed proof of these things with me by air. This should 00 done where there is no but due to shortage of timq I would not like to rait facility so that in the rural areas goods are go into that. Though we have discuSSLd the available on normal rates and the people issuo of price rise at l&n9th, the pri.;cs have living there are not adversely affected by not come down. Why is it so? The rA~son is price rise. Sir. arrangement should be made that while discussing we do not state the in every District Headquarters for procure- correct position and unless we do this. there ment of foodgrains. Alongwith it, more and cannot be reduction in the prices. During the more factories should also be set up. About lost session when we were discussing the petrol, we are told that talks are going on and price rise, you were siUing on this eat. At that the hone Minister will be informing us about time it was stated that the price rise has been that. You are aware that gas is produced caused because of petrol and diesel cnsis. from Puraini leaves and Cheechors and these Shri Rao Saheb ji is sitting here and he is an are avaifabt9 in abundance in India. Why do experienced Minister. I would Hkel0 ask him not you set up factories for it? If we provide if petrol IS costing more and its supply frpm gas to the villages. wewiH be saving cowdung, Kuwait is not easy, can we not sent the wood and trees and in this way our produc- consumer items through trains? Is there no tion will increase and we will also bale to rail system in our country? control prices.

I would like to ten the hon. Mlni5t(_r that Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am thankful ha shoutd give aU thH fadlilics to th\'! factory for the time given to me. ownersforsendingtheir900oq,througntrains. This is the duty of the Government. The [English] people of the country are not reddy to listen to the excuse that because petrol and diesel MR. OEPUTY SPEAKER: Shr} C.K. are costly and there is shortage of those Kuppuswamy. 553 Disc. under Rull1193 PAUSA 18; 1912 (SAKA) in th9 countfY 554 COIJtinu9d risflln prices

SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMV: Sir, forthe had mysetf several times caug ht red- first time the Interpreter was not available: handedly while peopte were smuggling This is a serious matter. several bags of rice meant for the poor out of the ration shops and handed over these rice MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You shoutd bags to the Oistrid Collector. In Thiru pur have given notice in advance. itself on one occasion I and the public pre- vented the smuggling of rice bags from ra- [Translation ] tion shops and handed over the culprits to the District Collector. At this juncture I would ·SHRt C.K. KUPPUSAMV also appaal to the Government to provide (Coimbatore): Hon'ble Deputy Speaker, I employment to the educated unemployed in would like to express my views, while par· Tamil Nadu or rice till employment is proviJ&d ticipating in the discussion on price rise. to them. Several Hon'ble Members haVQ also ex· prp'q~ed their views. I must say it with agony that the mid- day-meal scheme in Tamil Nadu which was Sir, I can without any doubt prove the started by our late leader Kamaraj and fact that black-marl(eting. hoarding and enrichened by Dr_ MGR and renamed as adulteration and other serious market crimes nuteritious meat scheme whk.. h served mil- were the order of the day during the last 11 lions of chtldren in Tamil Nadu with the months. This is the main factor responsible nuteritious meal a day is in aquandarytod : for this gaffoping rise in prices. Petrol which under the DMK Government. Thb scheme IS was at As. 7.25 is now at Rs. 11.25. Diesel not being properly impJementAd and savor.ll which was at Rs. 3.25 is now selling at Rs. malpractices are being committed at the cost S.SO.lwould also like to drawthe attention of of the children to serve certain people's ~p:f the Minister to the acute scarcity of diesel in interest underthis DMK Government. I would Tamil Nadu. like the Government to take note of these things and act immediately to salvnge the I would Also like to draw the attention of scneme from the shombles. the Minister to the malpractices in the dis~ tribution of essential c()mmodities through Sir. Han'blc members havp rightly fair pr;et;t shops ;n Tamil Nadu. The rice that pointed out that the prices of essential is allocated to the State from the Central preparations like idili and Dosa have steeply Pool does not percolate to the poor through risen up. And it wou1d be in the intprest of the the iair price shop, but is baing bartered poor if I damand ttie illtroduction of Janata away by the DMK volunteers. Thanks to the rll"ea'~ Scheme at affordabl& price in the encouragement of the DMK Government. country, especially in Tall'iI Nadu. \I",th thtl"('1

You are sondinn from the CentH~t Pool 40,000 words, Sir I I conclude. or50,OOOtonnesof rice. You wilt have to seQ Wh(flher these rice reaches the poorest of (English1 lh~ poor and harijans in Tamil Nadu who are below the poverty line. If that do£'": not. the SHRI VAMANRAO MAHADIK (BornhAf purpose is dereated. I would hence urge South Centrat): M,. Deputy-Speakor, the upon the Minister to constitute a Committee question is what to do with the Increasing to inquire int~ these malpractices as also to prico-riSA so far as essential commoditio~; constantly monitor that the Central rice al~ art:J concorotld. No answer is given. C'I;'1 location to the Slate reaches the poor and criticism on tho Gove. nn lont is made. I d.., not not the D.M.K. volllnte~rs. Mr. Deputy know whether it is cheating ourselves! Sppq~or Sir, this is a very serious matter. I Nothing can be done because there is no

·Tt.Jnslation of the spQech o(l~inaUv delivered in Tamil 555 Disc. Und9f Rule 193 ·JANUARY 8. 1991 in the countty 556 ContinU9d rise in prices

[Sh. Vamanrao Mahadik] fullest agrarian out put. Show to us how much land was put to food production. Only rich farmers are able to produce more. But agency with the Government which can stop production is not in the hands of poor people. this tendency of increasing price. It is be- That is why, the Government is tagging because, the world has become one big market hind in controlling the prices. There is only and just as thick air rUf,S towards thin air, one way and that is. while subsidising the wherever less prices are goinq. the com- prices, Government should control those modities are bound to go by way of smuggling who are hoarders and those who are corrupt. or otherwise and if there ;s no exchange and consumption capacity within the countries. This Government is facing inflation. they will export those commodities. In any Crores of rupees are in black. You can such way, the price level cannot be brought down people and put their money into Government just as it was done when deflation was there investments. Give them soma rate of inter- in 1929 and the whole world sufferod. Infla- est. tion is going to be there. There is only one way out. Whatever we are distributing as a We have lost out credit in foreign ex- Government by way of rationing, those change because we have no power over commodities should be subsidised. For that. money and over things. Why is it so? Gov- the Government should have money. This ernment should think twice. Governments treasury is not full of money. It is empty. This Government has taken a loan Thero are Sixth, Seventh and Eighth of Rs. 1.5 lakh crores. This Government has Plans. Have not the prices increased in sold our gold. This Government IS mon~tarily these Plans? These Plans are planned for very poor. The rupees of this Government creation of big industries and projects but has become a bogus rupees. If we want, we they are not putting something into the hands can make it up_ of poor man and, therefore, I say we cannot control the prices. This Government has depreciated their own currency and so they cannot subsidies Only three or four days ago, there was tho articles in money. If it is to be done, find strike by the carriers of onions in Maharashtra. out the family who has got no earning man. When this Government came to power, the Give them ration free of charge. If there is no rate of onions was Rs. 8/- a kilo. Then it rose one earning or if there is a man without any to As. 12/- a ktlo and it is Rs. 16/- a kilo now. job, do as we did in Maharashtra. Under the It has affected price of vegetables and the Employment Guarantee Scheme, anybody food ingredients. This instance of rise in the who wants to work will come and work. He price of onions. is going to destroy our will get As. 20/- along with two kilos of rice country's union. That is what is happening free. As this has not been done, the Gov- here because of Petrol. Diesel prices. ernment is not able to face even the demand Wherever we see, the prices are increasing. and supply rule. To moet the dem~ndt the It is not Bofors only but there is corruption Government shoufd control the population everywhere. Government tells MHam Do Hamare Do" but does accept the challenge of tho&e who believe in a very large family. [ Translation]

The Government is not able to accept the chatlenge of increasing population and The Government should rule properly so the demand are increasing. What about but it is not doing so. When they are not able the supply? The whole land is not put to to deliver the goods, they bring issue like production. What ate the scheme that the Mandai Commission or Ramjanambhoomi Government has undertaken to increase Babri Masjid. 557 Disc. under RuhiJ 193 PAUSA 18, 1912 (SAKA) Announcement by Speaker 558 Continued rise in prices in Ihe count#)' Observation reo receipt of Int.rim Notice from High Court of Delhi [Eng/ish) Nadu are the most affected by scarce water supply. This Government is not taking any We are only quarrelling over politics. step to save the standing paddy crops. This Just as we call a crow for "pind .. day" to our is also one of the reasons for the rise in forefathers in similar fashion. whatever we prices in Tamil Nadu. do for the poor by way of legislation and whatever we spend fortheir ~np,fit, does not Essential commodities, diesel and petrol go to the poor but goes to the rich. Our are not being supplied to general public but economy is a beggar's economy. Govern- are being smuggled by militants out of this ment should come forward with subsidising country. This is the state of affairs in Tamil proposal to meet out economy to control the Nadu. I, therefore. urge upon the Central increasing price level. Government to issue necessary directives to the State Government to streamline the [Translation] distribution system of essential commodities so that the poor are relieved of the operation *SHRI KANel PANNEER SELVAM of price rise. (Chengalpattu): Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir, , would like to say a few words on behalf of the Before I conclude, I thank you for the AIADMK on the issue of price rise that is opportunity given. under discussion by the House.

Those affected by this steep incre .... se in prices of goods are those who arc the have- 18.56 hrs. nots ~nd not the rich. The poor ,UA not only reeling under the oppression of prices rise [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] but also have to suffer on account of acute scarcity of essential commodities. The OBSERVATION RE. RECEIPT OF farmers in the villages are the most affected INTERIM NOTED FROM HIGH COURT by the price rise. The rise in prices, besides OF DELHI affecting the poor, also encourages black marketing, hoarding and adulteration. [Eng/ish)

As far as Tamil Nadu is concerned, MR. SPEAKER: I have to make an price of all essential commodities have gone announcement. I had informed the House on up. Da/was sold at Rs. 6 a kilo is now selling 27th Oecpmber, 1990 about the receipt of a Rs. 12/-. The price of Tamarind has also notice from the Registrar of the High Courts doubled to As. 20/- a kilo. Prices of cooking of Delhi requiring me to arrange to show oil have also gone up. The ChiAf Minister of cause in connection with Civil Writ Petition Tamil Nadu, Mr. Karunanidhi is not taking No. 3871 of 1990. nny step to control the price risco I had also informed the House that as When Puratchi Thalaivar Dr. M.G.R. per well-established practice and convention was the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, he of the House. I had decided not to respond to distributed rice at As. 1.25 a kilo. But the the notice. I had passed on the revelvant present Chief Minister has hiked it to As. papers to the Minister of Law and Justice 10; 3.60 a kilo. Not only the price of rice but the taking such action as he might deem fit to prices of all essential commodities in Tamil apprisQ the High Court of the correct con- Nadu have been hiked by the Chief.Minister, stitutional pOSition and the well-estab!ishpd Mr. Karunankthi to oppress the peopfs. convention of the House.

Today, the standing paddy crops in TamH t have received today a letter from the

*Translation of the speech originally delivered in Tamil. SS9 Announcement by Sp9ak9T JANUAHV 8, 1991 Disc. under Rule 1S13 560 Observation reo receipt o( interim ContinuBd rise in prices in the country Notice from High Court 01 De/hi Registrar of the High Court of Delhi forward- 19.00 hr... ing therewith a copy of an order d3ted 8th January. 1991 passed by the Division Bench DISCUSSJON UNDER RULE 193 of the High Court of Delhi. The Oivision Bench has passed the following orders on Continued Rise In Price of Essential the arguments on stay application in Civil Commodities In the CGuntry-Contd. Writ Petition No. 3871 of 1990:- {MR. OEPUTY SPEAKER in the ChaiJ1

C'The arguments on the stay applica- (Translation 1 tion are in progress. It would be in the fitness of things that an order of status SHRI K.D. SUlTANPURI (Shimla): quo may be passed as the hearing of Kindly give me time to speak. My party has the arguments on the stay application not given me time. You may please give me is likely to take time. time.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. please. Therefore, we order that aU the petitions Now the Minister will reply. presented before respondent No. 2 under the 10th Scheduled of the Constitution shall SHRI K.D. SUlTANPURI: As you are not be proceeded with or pursued by the not giving me time, I am walking out. petitions before the SpeakGr ond wo further order that status quo as it exists today shall 19.01 hrs.. be m~intained by the parties. The Hon. Member, Shri K. D. Sultanpuri Adjourned to 9th January. 1991. then walked out of the House

A copy of this order may be sent to the Speaker immediately." (English] DR. BIPLAB DASGUPTA (Calcutta South): Sir, are you bound by this? The THE MINSTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL Courts should not intervene. SUPPLIES (RAO BJRENDER SINGH): Sir, a very important subject of price rise has been discussed in the House for nearly four PROF. RAMGANESH KAPSE (Thane): hours. You have been kind enough to give as The Court should not intervene. The Speaker much time as possible to all the parties in is the supreme authorjty. view of the importance of this subject. I am grateful to hon. Members who have parttci- pated in the debate. The issue was raised MR. SPEAKER: Pleasetakeyoursaats. very forcefully by Shri Basudeb Acharia and Acharia-ji, I am convening a meeting of the several other Members of this House had Leaders of the parties tomorrow at 10 A.M. equally, forcefully and etoquently discussed sharp. this issue.... (/nt8rruptions)

PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: It is our MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: twould like to ~uggestion that the Court should not inter- say that we will continue to sit in the House vene. The Speaker is the supreme authority_ until the reply is over. We had decided to sit up to 7 O· clock and that is why I said this.

( Inln"uptions) 561 Disc. under P.ule 193 PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKAi in the country 562 Continued rise In "rices

ROA BIRENDER SINGH: I wilt try to be SHRI ANll BASU: After so many in- as short as possible .... (Interruptions) terventions.

SHRI ANIL BASU (Arambagh): Is it an RAO BIRENDER SINGH: We do not effective reply? want to blame one party or the other which has been ruling the country in the past. As [ Translation] the Prime Minister has repeatroly said, without blaming anybody, knowing what the SHRt DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Kindly situation was, this Government took over at make it clear as to what you are going to do a very critical period in the interest of the to curb price rise. people and democracy. Our intention is and our firm determination is that we want to RAO BIRENDER SINGH: On many improve the situation, of course with the

points, you have yourself given replies. You cooperation of all the Statest with the coop- have also identified the reasons forthe price eration of all the parties represented in this rise. You have stated the ways and means House and even outside. A situation like this also for Dring the prices down. I will try to cannot be really controlled by the reply to your satisfaction. (Interruptions) Government's efforts alone. The root cause has to be identified and everybody's adive (English) cooperation and support is needed to curb a very high rate of rise in the prices as we have whose legacy this present situation is. It is a witnessed recently. fact that this Government came into power at a very difficult period. Anything can be proved or disproved by figures. But I don't want to take recourse to SHRI ANll BASU: Through manipula- any devious method to hide facts and I would tion. not try to say that what the hon. Members have stated ;s not right, is not true. The fact RAO BIRENDER SINGH: n,is was a remains that there has been an unprec- very conscious decision to inherit this legacy edented rise in prices for some time. I shall from whomsoever it might have descended. come to the various factors that have con- It is a difficult task indeed. Economic situa- tributed to this. The hon. Members have tion in the country, the disturbance and of themselves mentioned that during the current course, high prices are natural!y very per- financial year upto 15th December 1990 the turbing. I can only assure you that the Gov- whole sale price index rose by 8.30/0 as ernment is also as deeply concernod as the compared to the last year during the same hon. Members are because no Government period which was 6.1 %. can afford to live with such a high price rise. It has to think of effective measures. And I DR. ASIM BALA (Nabadwip): I want to would only briefly like 10 state that certain know one thing. The hon. Minister may kindly steps hays already been taken. (Interrup- say what was the rate of price rise for the last tions) five years.

SHRI ANll BASU: Increasing the price RAO BIRENDER SINGH: I can senrl of rise is an affective step' (Interruptions) him the figures for the previous years.

~.R. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please do The annual rate of inflation in terms of not interrupt. wholosale price index as rightly statad by almost all the hon~ Members who spoke about it was 11.40/0 as compared to 7.4O/~ RAOOJRENDEHS'NGH: Thot fhl"'been (tur;ng thft same- period last year. The figure withdrawn. with regard to (X\nsumer price indox for in,:, 563 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUARY 8. 1991 in the country 564 Continued r;s8 in prices [Rao Birender Singh) tal to As. 205 per quintal. Subsequently. tha issue price had to be raised from Rs. 244. to dustrialworkers is till higher. It is an increase Rs. 289 for common rice. Similarly the price of 10.2% in the financial year upto October of wheat was at As. 183 per quintal in 1989- 1990; for the same period last year it was 90. That price now stands at Rs. 215 per 6°k. The annual rate of inflation in terms of quintal. It is on account of that, the issue consumer price index upto October 1990 price was also raised from Rs. 204 to Rs.234. comes to 10.8% which is exactly double of There was a second increase that had been the rise in the previous year during the same dACided by the previous Government for period which was 5.40/0. issue of rice. Out, on the demand of parties in the House and of hone Members. the AU these figures I would even go to the Prime Minister announced the withdraw of extent of saying do not exactly indicate the the increase.Just as the prices of foodgrains real hardship that the people have been have been raised to provide incentive prices fdCing on account of higher prices in retail for to farmers, ground-nut prices were also raised various commodities. If wo come to the factors to a very high levAI, i.e. from Rs. 430 in 1988~ which have contributed to this, some are 89 to Rs. 500 in 1989-90 and to Rs. 580 on fiscal measures. raising of administered 1p.6.1990. prices of certain commodities, then naturally the demand and supply gap for certain goods Sim itarly, the prices for various other oil- and as I said increased money suppty. But seed crops were raised very substantially the suggestions given by the hon. members and it is because, you would agreo, that have been noted by us; they are also noted unless we become self -sufficient in certain by the Ministry of Finance. Whatever can be commodities, it will not help India to continue done on the basis of these suggestions and to import large quantities of commodities even otherwise, the Government intends to that we are short of. A situation has now take measures to curb this price rise. arisen on account of which prices of edible oils have gone up. It is on account of the fact As you know, our position with regard to that during the past few years, the Govern- foodgrains is quite comfortable and the same ment has been deliberately reducing the goes for sugar. We have a good stock of imports of edible oil. In the year 1987-88. we wheat; we have a comfortable stock of rice imported 18 takh tonnes of edible oil. The and we hope that we shall have a very good next yeelf, it was around seven lakh tonnes. procurement season for ncu thiS yoar also, La~t year. it was merely six-and-a-half Jakh as in the past year. But the pricQs of foodgrains tannes on!y. This was done only because we have also gone up. As everybody knows, it is wanted that the prices of oil-seeds should be on account of the higher support price an- so remunerative and should be so attractive, nounced by the Govern,nent. On account of that the farmers grow more of this. Unfortu- that, the issue pricAs had also 10 be nately, whereas the productivity of certtljn raised.(/nterruptions) I will try to reply 10 crops in the agricultural sector has gone up some of the points, at least of the hon. satisfactorily, the productivity of pulses ans Members who are good enough to be present oil .. seeds has not improved. That is one even at this fag end of the sitting like Shri reason why we are $till short of these com- Acharia, Shri Jha, Shri Chand Ram, Or. modities. Some of the criticism was directed Thambi Durai and several other at high prices of pu'se~

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): [ Translation] From when are you increasing the quota of edibJe oils? SHRI DAU DAVAlJOSHI (Kota): One can understand this but make the position RAO BIRENDER SINGH: Sir, I am clear about cement and Iron also. Why the happy to inform you that Government has prices of cement have gone up? Wheat is not taken a decision to import more edible oil avaitable on fair price shops.(/nt9"Uptions) and some quantities of it will be reaching this very month. [English]

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: To West SHAI ANIL BASU: You should not put Bengal also?(lnt9"uptions) the iS$U9 in such a way as if there is a confUet between the producer and the consumer. RAO BIRENDER SINGH: West er.tngal ( Interruptions) and TamH Nadu would also get their share.( Intsrruptions) From the stocks that OR. BIPLAB OASGUPT:t\: The farmor we had, we tried to supply some quantities to who has 200 acres of land is also a farmer some of the States for Christmas :lnd New and a farmer who has one acre of land is at~o Year. For Pongal also, we are trying to see a farmer. How can one judge the status of a what quantities can be given to the southern farmer as per the land he is States. holding?( Interruptions)

We hZlV8 bean making monthly releases RAO BIRENDER SINGH: Hon. Mem- of sugar. Public distribution syslem apart, b&rs have repeatedly talked about hoarding even froe sale sugar is controlled b¥ the operations which the Government should Government. This is wfth a view to keep the Undertake4 There ate several Acts which we 567 Disc. uno€!r Rule 193 JANUARY 8, 1991 in the country 568 Continued rise in prices

[Rao Birender Singh] price risc 10 the extent which the h~n. Mem- bEtrs feel that It would. When we are short of aro implementating but the reallmpJementa- supply not train commodities, there cannot tion is through the States for all these Acts. be very largest quantities of them hoarded.

[ Translation] SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA (M:ldhubani): Will the hon. Minister yield for a mInute? SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): The prices of cement, Iron and stpcl are very high RAO BIRENDER SINGH: Yes. Kindly explain this also.(lnterruptions) SHRIBHOGENDRAJHA:lwou~l~e [English] to give a suggestion that the Government should stop the bank advances for hoarding RAO BIRENDEA SINGH: There is the to the wholesalers. I am not talking of retailers. Essential Commodities Act, there is the You can utilise the same amount for purchase Preventton uf 81ackmarketlng and Mainte~ by your own agencies utilise the same amount nance of E~sential Supplies Act and there for pu rchnse by your own agencies like ,he are various other Acts also. The Prevention Food Corporation of India, etc. Will the of Slackmarketing Act is being enforced and Government do thiS? people can be put behind bars even without trial. There is the Essential Commodities RAO BIRENDER SINGH: I will convey Special Powers Act which is also being thiS suggestion to the hon. Finance Minister. implemented by the States and the han. ( Interruptions) Member will be glad to know that we are SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATIERJEE: monitoring the action taken by the States If there IS a shortfall in supply, ev~n a small under all these Acts very regularly. Monthly hoarding is a large push to pr Ices. and quarterly returns are being received from the States. ( Interruptions)

[ Tra.ns/ation] RAO BlnENDER SINGH: It does. But even if there is scare about shorta~e that SHRI RASA SINGH RAWAT (AJmer): It also gives a large push because every family should show some good results. wants to hoard a little more to stock the commoditios for two to three months in ~d RAO BH-1ENDER SINGH: About the vance. Probably, that 01:lke3 a greater effect results I am going to give you the position, on the market than the business men who provided you listen to me. hoard. I would convey the suggestion given by Mr. Jha to the hon. Finance Minister but in [English] my view Sir, as you also must be knowing. most of the black market business in the From 1 1.90to30.11.90,duringtheseeleven whole-sale is run with blackrnoney. It is not months, the number of raids conducted was so much on Ldnk advance not bank finances. 1,04, 388, the persons arrested were 4650, ... (InterruptIons) the persdns pru~t?cuted wert:1 8402 and out of the decisions so far announced, 424 SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Not a single pC'n.ons have been convicted and I would wholesaler is doing business with his own like to Inform you Sir, so that Chaudhry money ... (Interruptions) Chand R.--lIn can also listen tc It, that Rs 1 t;.6:~ crores wOlth of goods were conflscatod RAO BIRENDER SINGH' I would only aft~r these rnl(;';;. And Jhls IS a cOllt,nuing mention one or two essentIal it'E?ms, with your process. Thefo figures are at the ali-India permission. lev~1 But I ,-:i11 J.>~rsonally of the opinion that de-hear

[Rao Sirender Singh] [ Translation] over the high price of cement. We are our- SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: Does the selves very deeply concerned about the government propose to take any action undue rise in cement prices that was wit- against the Cement industry who had given nessed some time ago. There was a sudden an assurance in this regard? spurt in cement prices. The provious Gov- ernment also was aware of it and it had been [English] suggested to them also that some strict measures should be tc)ken so that the industry RAO BIRENDER SINGH: At the high- does not arbitrarily enhance prices without est level Government has considered this any proper justification. This Government ;s situation about cement as also about other also very much concerned about this. There thmgs. I am glad to inform the House that on are various reasons given by the industry. 11 th, a group of Ministers appointed by the But the main reason is large consumption Cabinet is looking into these things and and short supply. Government also has been discussing matters withthecement industry. making bulk purchases for its own con- On 11 th, we have called the cement industry struction work. representative to discuss the matter of high prices of cement. Only after that, the Gov- SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: There was ernment may be able to announce something. over-production of cement last year. But we are trying to see what can be done. If need be, if the industry does not come round DR. THAMBI DURAl (Karur): But the and behave properly, then Government cost of production would not have increased. probably would consider further measures, but at this time we are trying to persuade the RAO BIRENDER SINGH: I agree. That industry to cooperate with the Government IS why, I have staten that it was unjustified. and to look to the problems that are being faced by the people. We hope, they will [ Translation] come round. Earlier, there was also a voluntary control over prices of edible SHRI DAU DAYALJOSHI: Till two years oils. (Interruptions) back. there was a slump in the prices of cement and cement companies had a buffer [ Translation] stock of cement with them. Now they hRve gone ahead to collude with the industrialists SHRI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI (Sonepat): to increase the prices of I would like to know as to why the government cement. (Interruptions) has shown leniency in this regard. The middlemen should not be given money from [English] the banks. The government should not give them finances. Also harsh measures should RAO BIRENDER SINGH: Earlier a de- be taken to contain the increasing prices of cision was taken to decontrol cement. Ce- cement because they say:- ment was acontroUed commodity. A decision vvas taken by the previous Governmf-'nt earlier IIDandah Shashti.Prajah Sarva, that it should be decontrolled and this decision was taken on an assurance from the Dandah evabhirakshati. industry that they will try to maintain supplies according to demand and they will try to Dandah supteshu Jagarti, maintain supplies according to demand and that they will also keep the prices low at a Dandam Dharman Vidurbudhah.' reasonable level. That assurance naturaUy has not been fulfilled and the Government is It mQans that ~ is on~y the fear of pun- looking into it. We are aware of it. ishment which works effectively at a moment 571 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUARY 8,1991 in the country 572 Continued rise in prices

[Sh. Kapil Dev Shastri1 through public distribution system. We are trying to meet partially the requirements in when everything else has become ineffec- the public distribution system. It is aimed tive. In fact this very sense of fear protects us particularly at providing retief to the poorer and the people. It is for this reason that the sections of the society. learned have called it the Dharma. On the 5th. I had a meeting of all the So, why does not the government deal Ministers of Food and Civil Supplies from the firmly with the increasing prices. For that States and other representatives from the matter, the entire House will extend its support States, in the Advisory Council for Public to the government. Distribution System. We have considered various measures. We have also considered [English] how to amend acts wherever it is necessary so that, as some han. Members, have sug- SHRI HAMENDRA SINGH BAN ERA gested. there must be some teeth in all the (Bhilwara): Why are you negotiating with rules, regulations and acts. Parliament has them. You take strict action against them. enacted very strong laws. If they are properly You take strict action against them. implemented by the States-as the implementation is entirely in their hands-there is [ Translation] no reason why, there should be any Blackmarketing, any hoarding or undue rise RAO BIRENDER SINGH: If the Hon'ble In prices of commodities or exploitatton of member is pleased to take a lead, I am market bcctluse of manipulat8d short sup- prepared to assist him. plies. All that CCln be checked. I have requested the State Governments to cooper- SHRI DAU DAYAL JOStl!: I am ready ate with the Central Government fully in this for it.( Interruptions) matter. J hope, it will bring results.

RAO BIRENDER SINGH: He should DR. THAMBI DURAl: Haveyou received also do something. any complaint from Tamil Nadu? So many people are raising this issue. The State [English] Government is not properly distributing the . commodities. You are simply telling this I might briefly mention various other thing. Whnt actions have you taken in this mat1ers which the hone Members have al .. regard? ready identified. like increase in rail freight and fares. RAO BIRENDER SINGH: tt is not only a complaint trom Tamil Nadu. There is agenerat SHRI CHAND RAM (Hardoi): You should cbmplaint and everybody knows that some check the rise in prices. percentagp. of essential commodities. (Interruptions) RAO BIAENOF:R SINGH:• I ",an only check the rise, if the slJg!)estion~ ar(\ work- DR. THAMBI DURAl: Mr. Kuppuswamy able, jf the Government finds that this can be has also mentioned about what has happend done. If the), a18 workable, 9verything pos- what is happening in ration shops. sible will be done. RAO BIRENDER SINGH: I know it. I Sir, about cement, as I said, we will look know about these mal-practices. (Interrup- into the matter. There has been a mention of tions) strengthening the public distribution system. This is a very important activity of the Gov- This meeting was convened only to find ernment, for market intervention. But aU the measures to plug thAse loorho1es, to stop needs of the community cannot be 'met leakages. to stop misappropriation of es- 573 Disc. um.r Rule 193 PAUSA f8. 1912 (SAKA) in the country 574 Continued rise in prices

sential commodities, by the wholesalers, the diesel in Delhi Area, the people have to suppliers, even the Government agencies stand in long ques for 7 to 8 hours to get their through whom it is supplied, the State Clvil supply. Tho hon'ble minister may accompany Supplies Corporation, even the Officers of me to go there and see the situation in Kota the Food Corporation of India. Anybody can with his own eyes. be blamed for it. All of them are not working as they should.(lnterruptions} MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is not good. You are doing such thing time and again. SHRIANILBASU:MarketintelVention ... RAO BIRENDER SINGH: I will definitely RAO BIRENDER SINGH: Would you accompany you but now let me complete it. permit these questions now or are you going permit these questions afterwards? We are trying to plug the loopholes, as I said, and to correct the malpractices. The MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can put depot-horders also indulge in them. The your questions later on and not now. agencies of the Government also need to be pulled up. All that is being done. The depot- SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Let him holders sometimes supply sub-standard finish. after that, we will ask cJaritications. quality of commodities. and they blame it on the Central Government agencies: for in- RAO BIRENDER SINGH: For nlarket stance, Fe!. They keep false samples of intervention, we have va~iou"3 agencies. We slJb-standard items which they purchase have the National Dairy Development Board. from the market; and the good quality com- That is a canalising agency appomted by the modities are sold in their private trade. We Government. They are required to purchase have laid down the rules. This was also oilseeds when the prices are low in the discussed-i.e. how to stop diversion of these market. They can also purchase edible oil; commodities. Because they are diverted, and this is meant to be released when the they do (,ot reach the targeted groups. So, I prices go up. That agency is also working in have suggested to the States that the traders the field. litho run their own business should not be allowed to handle ration depots under public Similarly. we have NAFEDs. again un': distribution system. They should be abso- der the Ministry of Agriculture. When the lutely separate. prices of onions and potatoes shoot uP. it is not because of their short supply in the Similarly. people who have any link with country, not because of low production; but potrol pumps should not be stockists of it is on account of transport and other diff;· kerosene oil, because we know that tankers culHes. Earlier, we had seen that bfyCf) I IS9 of and tankers of them reach. at night. in col- niesel shortage, transport nptwork had almost lusion With the officers of the Oil Corpor

(T fa ns/ation) AS HON. MEMBER: It is moved wit.h diesel oil. SHRI OAU DAYALJOSHI:Justtoday in the morning, ( have giv~n a notice to cat! RAO f3IRENOER SINGH: tt is mixed attention of the government to the fuel that a with diesel. I think the han. Members will bo supply of 1 lakh litre of diesel did not reach glad to hear that the Ministry of Petroleum Kota. Bundi and Jhal~wflr during the last and Chemicals, I am told, had taken a deci- month. As regards the supply position of sion that kerosene will be coloured. It will 575 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUARY 8. 1991 in the countty 576 ContinutKI rise in prices [Rao Birender Singh] RAO BIRENDER SINGH: h is no doubt. Our work wifl be judged by the results that we have a pink colour; and if it is then adulter- can show and we are determined to put in ated with any other petroleum product, it will our best efforts to control prices as also the be deteded easity. attention that this .Government intends to pay to otherbuming problems in the country. So, these are the various measures which are under review by the Government, PROF. RAMGANESH KAPSE (Thane): which are going to be enforced soon; and a Would you consider in oonsolation with Fel. strategy is being worked out for the public construction of the godowns at every district distribution systems. so that whatever is level. because I find that at every distrid supplied is equitably distributed, and it place, there are no storage facilities; and reaches the people for whom it is intended. consequently all the food items and foodgrains do not reach in time. There is no There has also been a suggestion that way to take them to the main outlets. Many the richer sections of the society should be a time it takes a long time. When the people taken out of the public distribution system, so need it, they do not get it. Would you consider that whatever is saved that way, is again construction of the godowns or some other diverted to the poorer sections of the society; temporary arrangement for storing them? and that might also reduce the burden of some subsidy on the Central Government. RAO BIRENDER SINGH: A very large But before taking a decision like this, we program me of construction is there even in shall have to look into all the implications. We the Eighth Plan. The Central Warehousing shall see whether it is really praCticable, Corporation is the main agency of the Gov- whether it will bring in benefits commensu- ernment now for construction of godowns; rate with the exercise that we may have to and 1.5 million tonnes more storage a city is take. and the work that the State Govern- to be added during the Eighth Plan. Apart ments and their agencies may have to do. from that, the State Corporations, the State Warehousing Corporations are also putting I have briefly touched all the points that up cold storage facilities. There also the the hon. Members have mentioned. Alii can Central Government has got 50 per cent do at the end it to assure the House through share. you that the Government is conscious that, . apart from the disturbances in the country, SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): secessionist activities, 1errorism and com- The Minister has not touched a very impor- munal riots. high prices are one thing which tant point that is to distribute 14 essential bring a very bad name to the Govomment; items through the public distribution system and it is known to everybody that after in- at a ch~ap rate. Is the Government going to dependence, whether it the in 1977 or it was introduce this system so that common people,

again in 1980 or again in 1984, maybe aJso I poor people may get these 14 essential in future, high prices are more painful to the items? people than anything else, particularly for the poor masses; and they affect the fortunes RAO BIRENOER SINGH: I entirely of the Government and parties. And there- agree that more commodities should be fore we are very keen that we show some added for the public distribution system. But results and try to control prices. that depends more on the initiative and efforts of the State Government. because public As the Prime Minis1er had said in this distributipn system in the State is run by the House earlier that his party and this Gov- State Government; we only supply certain ernment, though a minority Govemment, essential commodities which we stock; we supported by another large party ... have in our buffer stock foodgrains, sugar etc. We are also trying to produce certain DR. THAMBI DURAl: Largest party. consumer items through our centra' agency 577 Disc. under Rule 193 PAUSA 18. 1912 (SAKA) in the country 578 Continued rise ;n prices like the Hindustan Vegetablo Oil Corpora- SHRI A.K. ROY: It is a policy question. tion. We are trying to produce some packs of oil so that they can be distributed also through MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: Big policy the publfc distribution system. questions cannot be replied in a fgw minutes time. Are you interested in replying, Mr. The other day, I had directed the Na- Minister? tional Consumers Cooperative Federation to try and purchase more of these mass/as. RAO BIRENDER SINGH: If you order. condim9nts, ginger, chillies and various yes. other things, green elachi, large cardamom etc. from Sikkim. and other parts of the As you rightly observed, it is a very big country. All these things can be procured. question of policy and it will have to be And also for pulses we have dal mills. But we considered by the Government and very do not have enough stock for the entire deep thought will have to be given to it. It is country to be supplied with all these 14 not entirely up to the Government to fix the commodities. But we try to help the State margin between the retail price and what the Civil Supplies Corporations to obtain the farmer gets and what is ultimately the price commodities that they want to add and we in the retail market. But efforts are already also arrange finances. being made. Even with equity, in respect of the prices of industrial goods and agricultural rTranslation] produce there, may not be parity between the prices of these two groups of commodi- SHRI SURYA NARAYAN YADAV ties. That is included in the terms of reference (Saharsa): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the then to the Commission on Agricultural Costs and minis1er Shri Mirdha had announced in this Prices. That is taken into consideration and House that the packet~ containing the mill we try to maintain parity. produced item, will indicate its retail price inclusive of all taxes. It the Hon'bla minister MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is a big going to implement it? question. It will require a lot of time. It is a good question, but a big question. [English] rTranslation] RAO BIRENDER SINGH: Yes. Ac- cording to the decision taken by my prede- SHRI A.K. ROY: Mr. Deputy Speaker, cessor, the notification was issued and that Sir. during the course of discussion, I had order is now in force. Now, the package given a suggestion to the government to pay commodities can only display the maximum special attention to the plains of district retail price and not the previous way of Chhota Nagpur which is known for its high printing. "Local taxes, etc. extra". That is not yield of groundnut. Is the government going done now. That order was notified. to do anything in the this regard?

SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: , want to [Englishj know whether the Government ts consider.. ing any proposal to fix maximum limit of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: It is for the difference between the price of paddy paid to State Go\lernment to do it. the producers and the price charged from the actual consumers, and a parity between [ Translation] the priceS of agricultura' commodities also should be there. SHRI A.K. ROY: The second thing , MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You ale en- ·would like to ask here is whether this valu- toring into a different n.03. That question will able discussion will be followed by eradica- take 3 tong time. tion in prices? 579 Disc. under Rule 193 JANUARY 8. 1991 in the country 580 Continued rise in prices [English] of various taxes on oil seeds has today raised the price of oil very high to touch the MR. DepUTY SPEAKER: This need mark of Rs. 35-40 per kg. With this price not be answered. level, it has gone beyond the purchasing capacity of an ordinary man. SHAI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI (Berhampur): I fully support the views ex- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Joshi ji. pressedbythetwohon. MembdlS and would please come to your question and do not like to add mine with regard to the provision make a speech. of Fe I or other suitable agency godowns. What is now happening in m)' Parlahlmidi SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI: The Ex- constituency of Orissa State is that the fJOor minister for food has said that a~ the prices farmers are entirely left at the mercy of the of 011 ar;e very high an ordinary man cannot mill owners as well as the others. afford to purchase this item forthat price. So, has the government done a comparatIve MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He has al- study to find out the extent of difforC?nce ready said that he is going to con~truct between the cost price and mill price of Till godowns. oil?

SHRI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI: With MR. DEPUTY SP[AKER: All right, we respect to the availability of cement, sug~r. Will look into it.. palmofin oil, these essential commodities aro alwliYs in short supply and I urge upon ( Interruptions) the hon. Union Minister to ensure proper distribution system for the proper supply of [English] these essential commodities.

~I} MR. OEPU rv SPEAKER: Tho House ",\ ~ [Translation] stands adjourned to reassemble tomorrow at 11 A.M. SHRt DAU DAYALJOSHI: Hon'ble Rao Shib himself is a farmer. Has he ever analysed 19.15 hrs. in that capacity as to what is the actual production cost of Til 011 mustald oil and the The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eloven ground nut as compared to the actual cnst of of the Glock on Wodnesday, January 9, their raw material. Moreover the imposition 19911 Pausa 19, 1912 (Saka)

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