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Professional Land Surveyors of Colorado Volume 41, Issue 3

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AFFILIATE—NATIONAL SOCIETY OF August Journal 2010 PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS MEMBER—COLORADO ENGINEERING COUNCIL Volume 41 Number 3 MEMBER—WESTERN FEDERATION OF PROFESSIONAL SURVEYORS President’s Letter ...... 4 OFFICERS (2009) From the Editor ...... 5 Tom T. Adams President Four Corners Ð A Brief History...... 7 1210 24th Lane ¥ Pueblo, CO 81006 O: (719) 546-5454 F: (719) 546-5414 Control Points Ð The Metre ...... 11 Michael M. Greer Vice President State Board Update...... 12 7174 Union Street ¥ Arvada, CO 80004 O: (303)271-8787 F: (303) 271-8706 Update on Metro State’s Diana E. Askew Executive Director/Secretary-Treasurer Surveying Program ...... 13 PO Box 704 ¥ Conifer, CO 80433 H: (303) 838-7577 F: (303) 838-7179 WFPS Board of Directors 2009 PLSC CHAPTER ORGANIZATION Meeting Report...... 15

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SOUTHERN COLORADO PROFESSIONAL Side Shots is the official publication of the Professional Land Surveyors of Colorado, Inc. LAND SURVEYORS and is published quarterly for the betterment of the surveying profession. Tom T. Adams Michael Greer President Mark Johannes: 719/633-8533 (O) President Vice President Vice President: Joe Alessi; Secretary: Bill Brooks; Treasurer: Daniel Hanten Directors: Nathan Lira, Dennis Craig, For Editorial Correspondence, contact: Steve Parker Mike Bouchard, Jon Tessin John B. Guyton Editor: Side Shots SOUTHWESTERN CHAPTER - PLSC, INC. 3825 Iris Ave., Boulder, CO 80301 President Robert L. Trudeaux: 970/247-1705 (O) 303-443-7001 ¥ [email protected] Vice President, Tom E. Au; Secretary, Parker Newby This publication is not copyrighted and articles may be reprinted with due credit. Treasurer, Ed Young Statements made and opinions expressed are from the contributors and do not necessarily express the official views of the Professional Land Surveyors of Colorado, Inc. WESTERN COLORADO LAND SURVEYORS Deadlines for editorials, articles, pictures and advertising are January 1, April 1, President Tom Sylvester: [email protected] July 1 and October 1. All material received after the current deadline will appear Vice President: Richard Bullen; Sec’y-Treas.: Brian Bowker in the next issue of Side Shots. Directors: Rick Mason, Leslie Doehling, Patrick Green, Jonathan Kobylarz, We would like to invite anyone who is interested to advertise in Side Shots. Dennis Shellhorn, Scott Thompson, Peter Krick and Mike Drissel Do you have something you want to sell, trade or buy? Why not use Side Shots for your COLORADO SPATIAL REFERENCE NETWORK next ad? We can also reproduce business cards for advertising. Ad space reservation must be President: Dan Smith: 303-512-4401 arranged with Diana Askew, PO Box 704 Conifer, CO 80433; 303-838-7577. Ad copy may be Vice President, Brian Dennis; Secretary, Jan Sterling; sent to: [email protected] before the editorial deadline Treasurer, Todd Beers (January 1, April 1, July 1 and October 1). Directors: Matthew Barr, Pam Fromhertz, Lawrence deVries, Jack Sparks, Daniel Akin Current Advertising Rates: Business card size or less - Member $25.00; Non-member $30.00 One-Half Page - Member $115.00; Non-member $150.00 Full Page - Member $225.00; Non-member $300.00 Color advertisements — add 33 percent

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OFFICERS (2009-2010 MICHAEL M. GREER TOM ADAMS JOHN B. GUYTON DIANA E. ASKEW VICE PRESIDENT PRESIDENT PAST PRESIDENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR O: (303) 271-8787 O: (719) 546-5454 WFPS DELEGATE SECRETARY-TREASURER [email protected] . [email protected] O: (303) 443-7001 O: (303) 838-7577 [email protected] [email protected]

DIRECTORS (2007-2010) Dear Fellow members: DOUGLAS R. BERLING H: (303) 252-1861 I hope the summer is serving you well. All indications are that the economy in Colorado has yet to pick up substantially, so MICHEAL BOUCHARD the PLSC is still trying to keep afloat in these tough economic O: (719) 590-9194 times. We have suffered an understandable loss of membership RUSSELL CLARK this year, and as we plan our newly combined annual conference O: (719) 633-8533 in early 2011, the lack of a technical session in 2010 also has a negative effect on this year’s budget. ROGER D. NELSON O: (303) 353-3916 I am pleased that the legislative committee has met most of their goals for the year. The PLSC board of directors has elected to suspend the use of a lobbyist DIRECTORS (2009-2012) for the time being because of our economic status and since we do not have any pro- posed laws pending. One other service the lobbyist always provided was watching PETER KENT the current proposed legislative bills and notifying us when anything that might be of O: (720) 865-3116 concern to land surveyors comes up. We have lost that service from our lobbyist, GARY D. GABLE and hope we can keep our own eye on the respective legislative issues for the time O: (303) 422-0199 being. Additionally, the PLSC is participating in the rule-making process of the State Board, as well as gearing up for working with the State Board next year for the 2013 PATRICK GREEN O: (970) 245-4099 sunset review. If you see any problems with the current laws or rules, please let us know. You may contact me or any director on the board you choose and let us know STAN VERMILYEA your concerns. We can add your topic to the agenda if it seems appropriate. Roger O: (303) 796-4640 Nelson is the chair of the legislative committee and is always on the lookout for leg- islative issues that should be addressed. WFPS DELEGATE (2009-2010) Please keep in mind that we have a new election coming up for the PLSC DAVID C. DIFULVIO Officers and Directors at the end of this year. If you have ideas or things you would O: (303) 692-8838 like to see the PLSC pursue, you can contact one of the directors and/or you should NSPS GOVERNOR (2009-2010) consider running for a position on the board. It is an all-too-common misconception that state societies like PLSC are some kind of public agency. Not true. The officers WARREN D. WARD and directors (besides the executive director) are all volunteers, men or women like O: (970) 725-3347 you who are trying to make a living at our day jobs, while working to make a differ- ence for the profession on the side. You too can make a difference. If you know of something you think the PLSC should be doing, then step up and see if you can help get it done.

I urge all of our current members to encourage their fellow employees or associates to become new members. Non-licensed surveyors can also become associate members. If you have any other ideas of how we can increase member- ship, contact Mike Bouchard, who is the chair of the Membership Committee. And please keep in mind, our profession would not be where it is today without years of PLSC representation at the State Legislature to protect both land surveyors and Col- orado consumers. Let’s keep up the support of the PLSC to maintain our progress into the future.

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We all have persevered through know of an appropriate vendor, us with some personal insights on a very difficult economy, and I hope please consider asking them to the profession. that you are seeing at least some of become a Sustaining Member. You There is also an important the normal, seasonal pickup in sur- can see the current list on the last update from Carol Svendsen on veying activity in your area. page of this issue. If you do busi- changes to the Metro State Survey- There has been a decline in ness with them, or may do so in the or Program, and a report from the membership renewals for this year, future, it’s always a great idea to Department of Regulatory Agencies and the Board of Directors is cutting mention to them that you saw their (DORA) by Angie Kinnard Linn. spending and trying to find ways to listing in Side Shots and appreciate Our Executive Director, Diana raise revenue to close a budget gap. their support of the PLSC. Contact Askew, has also contributed min- These cuts threaten our mission of Di Askew, our Executive Director, utes from four Board of Directors delivering educational opportunities for details. meetings that and services to our membership. Either way, their support helps were held since One of the ways that the PLSC can our members, it helps their busi- our last issue Ð raise some additional revenue is to ness, and helps us to continue our be sure to read encourage more corporate sponsor- mission of education and network- those to see the ships to support PLSC initiatives ing for those of us in the profession. latest topics and that would otherwise go unfunded. In this issue, our featured story issues under dis- Some examples would be for a lob- by Earl Henderson is about the his- cussion. byist, paying the fees for quality tory of the Four Corners, a timely As always, speakers, or for public awareness topic because of recent news cover- your comments initiatives like the Four Corners re- age, and also because the monu- and contributions of material for monumentation project. In return, a ment itself is undergoing a renova- Side Shots are always welcome. corporate sponsor receives recogni- tion. Warren Andrews continues his Enjoy the rest of the summer! tion in our highly specific market of excellent Control Points series, fea- professional surveyors. turing The Metre. And Dean Glorso JB Guyton If you work for a company, or and Jim Sommerville have provided Editor

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On April 19, 2009 a story made it onto the Associated reporters of this story did, they simply picked it off the Press that was picked up by almost every major news wire and repeated it. The story claimed that the intend- network, indicating that the Four Corners monument ed location for the monument was 109¡ west longitude isn’t in the correct location. The Four Corners monu- and 37¡ north latitude. Neither of these is correct. ment is certainly one of, if not the most famous survey The story of the Four Corners monument begins in monument in our country. It appears as though this 1868 when Ehud Darling surveyed 37¡ north latitude as story started with an article in the Deseret News of Salt described in the enabling act of 1864 describing 37¡ Lake City, UT written by Lynn Arave. Lynn makes some north latitude as the south boundary of Colorado. Dar- very extravagant claims based on Google Earth meas- ling surveyed to a point west of the present location of urements and Geocachers which should make every the Four Corners monument by about 1 mile & 45chs. land surveyor feel insulted. I know I do. Darling didn’t do an exemplary job on his survey, but his I personally saw news broadcasts in Denver, CO fea- survey was upheld in a Supreme Court decision turing my friend, Randy Zanon, who was at that time the between the states of New Mexico and Colorado in Chief Cadastral Surveyor for the BLM Denver Office. 1925 because it was the original survey. Randy, who has since retired, stated in no uncertain In 1875 Chandler Robbins was contracted to survey terms that the monument marked the very point the west line of New Mexico. Interestingly, on of the intersection of the state lines, yet the title page of his notes, Robbins the local reporter insisted on trying to describes himself as “US surveyor feed the flames of controversy at and astronomer”. He was directed the end of the report, stating that to set an initial monument at 32¡ the monument was still 1500’ west longitude and “on the off. Even after repeated Darling line”. As you can attempts by myself to con- see, and as surveyors, we tact the news desk at the know the difference local TV station, no one between 37¡ north latitude was interested in correct- and “on the Darling line”. ing their poor reporting of Darling’s survey was the the story. I take this as an original survey of the example of the current south line of Colorado, state of affairs, and the after all, even though it value of current news wasn’t exactly on the 37¡ reporting. But that’s just north latitude line. my opinion and not the sub- The difference between ject of this article. 109¡ west longitude and 32¡ In addition to not under- west longitude isn’t as imme- standing the concept of original diately apparent other than the monumentation the way survey- numbers varying considerably. ors are supposed to, Lynn didn’t do The Greenwich Meridian, from his homework. But then none of the which 109¡ is measured, was not

SIDE SHOTS • 7 accepted as the Prime Meridian by the United States until 1912 after the International Meridian Conference held in Washington, DC in 1884. Until that time each country established their own “prime meridian” from which measurements were made within their borders. Anyone who is a fan of Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code like I am remembers Robert Langdon following “The Rose Line” monumented through the center of Paris at the end of the story. These monuments mark France’s prime meridian. The Greenwich meridian was chosen as the Prime Meridian at the conference though because of the superiority of the British shipping and navigational charts which most countries had been using for decades, and which were all based on that meridian. So Chandler’s monument predated the use of the Greenwich meridian as the Prime Meridian. It was in fact based on the Washington, DC prime meridian. However, there have in fact been four prime meridians in DC. The first prime meridian of the USA was proposed by Charles Pierre L’Enfant, the designer of DC, to go through “Congress’ House”. This meridian was never implemented. The second prime meridian of the USA and the first to actually be put to use was defined by Thomas Jefferson and established at the right angle point of the triangle with hypotenuse drawn between the White House and the Capitol Building. This point is cur- rently marked by the “Jefferson Stone” just NW from the Washington monument. The Jefferson Stone has a Image from the Utah Historical Quarterly unique and interesting history that was fully described by Silvio Bedini in his wonderful book The Jefferson Stone. This USA prime meridian was used until 1850. At that time the US Naval Observatory (now called the Old US Naval Observatory and located near the west end of the mall in DC) was being used for making longi- tudinal measurements and apparently it was decided to move the USA prime meridian to the dome of the Old US Naval Observatory building for simplicity in reducing measurements. That USA prime meridian was used until the Greenwich meridian was adopted by the USA in 1912. Sometime later the current US Naval Observa- tory was built and the USA Prime Meridian was moved to there for measurement purposes even though all measurements were converted to Greenwich. So, the upshot is that Chandler’s monument was set based on the USA Prime Meridian (at the Old Naval Observatory) at 32¡ west longitude and that does NOT correspond to 109¡ West from Greenwich as Lynn Arave seems to think. Of course this is not the first time that someone has looked at a map and made that assump- tion. In fact, in an attempt to thwart just such a misun- derstanding, Chandler Robbins himself published an article in the Santa Fe Daily New Mexican on November 1, 1875, just a few months after he set the monument, saying this: “It seems to have been the general impres- sion that the line was the 109¡ of longitude west from Greenwich. Such is not the case, as the law makes it the 32¡ of longitude west from Washington, which corre- sponds to 109°2’59.25” west from Greenwich, and which places the line as a small fraction less than three miles farther west than would have been the case if it had been run as the 109¡ of longitude west from Green- The Jefferson Stone, Washington, DC wich.” Oddly enough, the very same newspaper, now

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Four Corners Monument before renovation (Photo: Staplegunther at en.wikipedia

SIDE SHOTS • 10 Control Points Ð Number 9 By Warren Andrews, PLS The Metre

As some of you know and as I which immensely complicated their have mentioned in previous Control job. It was not finished until after Points, I’m a little nuts on the Napoleon took over. The final trian- spelling of the present international- gulation is shown in the figure. The ly accepted unit of length, the intent of extrapolating their resulting metre. The reason is to keep away distance on the surface of the earth from the confusion factor. In Eng- to the distance from the Equator to lish a gadget for measuring water is the North Pole along the Paris a water meter, for measuring elec- Meridian and then taking on ten-mil- tricity is an electric meter, and for lionth of that distance for the length measuring gas is a gas meter. If of the metre turned out to be unat- you spell metre “meter,” then what tainable. The hidden error that still are you talking about? If you spell exists in the length of the metre is a the unit of length “metre” then it is shortage of about 0.2 of a millime- unique and specific. If you don’t like ter. Mechain did his best to find that French you’re in trouble anyway. hidden error and almost committed How was the length of the suicide over it when he couldn’t find metre determined? A few may it. The real problem was that the know the answer to that. Because shape of the earth is irregular and the standards of weights and meas- not a curve of revolution. (Delambre ures had deteriorated so badly in and Mechain knew that the earth Europe by the time of the French was not a sphere and was flattened Revolution that each town had its at the poles but didn’t know the cur- own system in many areas, it was a vature varied in an irregular way mess that badly needed fixing. It and didn’t fit their mathematics!) was estimated that in pre-Revolu- Delambre covered up the error tionary France there were over when he published the results and it 250,000 different units of weights exists to this day. Because each and measures. segment of the Paris Meridian had The French Academie had a changing curve, it was not possi- looked at the problem in great detail ble to make an accurate extrapola- for years. In fact, the 1792 meas- tion. Finally, Cassini’s 50-year-old urement of the earth’s meridian data had to be used to get an north from Paris to Dunkirque was a approximation of the earth’s size redo of the 1740 measurement by even though Delambre knew it to be Cassini III. The measurement south inaccurate. from Paris to Barcelona in Spain But one good thing came out of had not been done before. The it. Their colleague, the French older measurements were only to mathematician Legendre, later 15 seconds of arc while the newer using Delambre’s published data, measurements would be to one came up with a way to best fit a second of arc by means of the cure to the data which is the least newly invented Borda repeating cir- squares adjustment, the origin of cle theodolite, usable both in a hori- the statistical method used today. zontal and vertical position. The If the reader wishes to read picture shows it for measuring hori- more of the fascinating story about zontal angles. Mechain and Delambre and their tri- In 1792 the French als and tribulations, I recommend astronomers, Delambre and Ken Alder’s book, The Measure of Mechain started out to triangulate All Things. the Paris Meridian north and south Top: The Borda Repeating Circle Theodolite. respectively. Unfortunately, they At right: The Paris Meridian. were right in the middle of the From The Measure of All Things: French Revolution and they were The Seven-Year Oddyssey and Hidden Error, detained and their equipment taken, by Ken Alder, Simon & Schuster, 2002.

SIDE SHOTS • 11 State Board Update

By Angie Kinnaird Linn, Program Director State Board of Licensure for Architects, Professional Engineers, and Professional Land Surveyors

PASSAGE OF HOUSE BILL Once the Board reviews the pro- renewal notice does not relieve you 10- 1085 LEADS TO posed rules, which will also include of your obligation to timely renew the revision of some rules regarding your license. SEVERAL CHANGES the practice of architecture and engi- HB10-1085 puts in place a num- neering, and application and Once you have logged into Reg- ber of changes that may affect you enforcement processes, they will istrations Online Services, check or your employees… publish them in order to hold a public your mailing address and update it, if 1. It requires the Board specify hearing. The anticipated hearing it is not correct. If you received your appropriate surveying course date is October 8, 2010. If you renewal notice due to a forwarding work through the rulemaking would like updates on the rulemaking order it is important you change your process that would meet the process, to review the proposed address on file with us since we can- statutory requirements for a rules when they are published, not change the information based on 2-year surveying curriculum, attend the hearing, or provide written the forwarding order. a 4-year engineering curricu- testimony, please check out the infor- lum, or a 4-year non-survey- mation at You should also add or update ing curriculum in order to http://www.dora.state.co.us/aes/rule- your email address. The Division qualify to take the Principles making.htm wants to keep you abreast of legisla- and Practice of Surveying tion, events, and other information licensing examination. This Elimination of that impact your profession. We must be done and in effect have recently implemented “eUp- by January 1, 2011. Apprenticeship Path to dates” and look forward to providing 2. The bill eliminates the ability Licensure more of these in the future. to become licensed as a Professional Land Surveyor The option for anyone to become REGISTRATIONS ONLINE without education beyond licensed based on experience only graduation from high school will end on July 1, 2020. Please SERVICES on July 1, 2020. spread that information far and wide 3. The bill also specifies proce- to all of your colleagues and employ- Registrations Online Services dures for issuance of a sur- ees to ensure they understand if they makes it easier for all licensed Pro- veyor’s affidavit of correction. do not have surveying education, fessional Land Surveyors to renew they now have only 10 years to and update their contact information become licensed. after a simple registration process. Rulemaking Check it out at www.dora.state.co.us/registrations Regarding the rulemaking Surveyor’s Affidavit of and then click on Online Registra- process to determine the appropriate Correction tions Services. For detailed instruc- coursework to qualify to take the tions on how to use the online sys- licensing examination to become a This portion of the bill doesn’t tem go to www.dora.state.co.us/reg- Professional Land Surveyor, a sub- require any action by the Board at istrations/FAQs.htm. committee has been meeting since this time. early June and is presenting its rec- ommendations for the Board’s con- sideration at the August 13, 2010 HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR meeting. This group is made up of Surveyor Board members, PLSC MAILING OR EMAIL representatives, and other interested ADDRESS LATELY? Land Surveyors. They are writing these rules as well as reviewing It is imperative you keep your other existing rules that need clarifi- contact information updated with the cation. In addition, policies that con- Division of Registrations. The Divi- cern the practice of land surveying sion mails renewal notices and other may be adopted as rules. information to you at the last address furnished to us. Failure to receive a

SIDE SHOTS • 12 Update from Metropolitan State College of Denver’s Surveying Program

By Carol Svendsen, Assistant Vice President, Extended Campus

The Surveying program at Met- velop and teach these selected dis- half of the current distance students ropolitan State College of Denver tance courses, improving their reside outside the state of Col- has moved to its new home under teaching quality and currency. I am orado, and many of the Colorado the Earth and Atmospheric Sci- pleased to report that the first class residents do not live in the Denver ences Department in the School of will be developed by Dennis metropolitan area. Letters, Arts, and Sciences! Sur- Mouland, the BLM Cadastral Train- Unfortunately, a gloomy budget veying will become an Area of Inter- ing Coordinator at the National picture for Colorado higher educa- est under the Geographic Informa- Training Center in Phoenix. Mr. tion prevents us from hiring a full- tion Systems (GIS) Concentration in Mouland will develop SUR 3800 time professor to lead the program. the Land Use Major. This connec- Public Lands Survey System, an However, we have several excellent tion with GIS will give Surveying area in which Mr. Mouland has spe- part-time faculty who teach a num- students broader academic prepa- cial expertise and in which he ber of our Surveying courses. For ration and open additional career believes there is strong interest the most part, these faculty come opportunities. Likewise, the Survey- around the nation. The text for the from the professional surveying ing Area of Interest will enrich the course will be the 2009 edition of community, which gives them real GIS Concentration and provide The Manual of Surveying Instruc- world experience in addition to their another career direction for Land tions published by the Bureau of academic credentials. Use Majors. Additionally, these Land Management. We continue to appreciate the courses will help students qualify for For those of you who may be strong support for Metro State’s the Colorado Fundamentals of Land new to the state, a little history -- Surveying program that we have Surveying Exam. The courses will Metro State’s Surveying and Map- received from the Professional Land also be open to students all over ping Program was founded in the Surveyors of Colorado. We look for- the nation who seek professional early 1980s. Over the years, ward to reporting on our ongoing development or fulfillment of their because of low on-campus enroll- progress, and welcome any ques- state’s requirements for education ment, the program gradually shifted tions or comments you have. of professional surveyors. Students from on-campus instruction of may choose from the following degree-seeking students to “dis- Carol Svendsen can be courses to complete the 19-credit- tance” education of students in Col- reached at [email protected] hour minimum required for the Sur- orado and the nation. More than veying Area of Interest:

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1 Ð President, for a 2-year term (2011-2012) Your nominations can be sent either by mail or email: 1 Ð Vice President, for a 2-year term (2011-2012) 1 Ð Secretary-Treasurer, for a 2-year term (2011- Douglas Berling 2012) 11536 Community Center Drive, #87 4 Ð Directors, for a 4-year term (2011-2014) Northglenn, CO 80233 [email protected] The terms for the following individuals will conclude after the election in February/March of 2011: Deadline for nominations: December 15, 2010

Tom Adams, President (2009-2010) Please include name of nominee, position nominated Mike Greer, Vice President (2009-2010) for, and their contact information. Diana Askew, Secretary-Treasurer (2009-2010) Douglas Berling, Director (2007-2010) Ballots will be sent to the membership 36 days prior Michael Bouchard, Director (2007-2010) to the annual meeting, to be held in February, 2011. Russ Clark, Director (2007-2010) Roger Nelson, Director (2007-2010)

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SIDE SHOTS • 14 Western Federation of Professional Surveyors Board of Directors Meeting Report June 12, 2009 in Portland, Oregon

by: David C. DiFulvio, PLS, Colorado Delegate

PLSC Delegates Dave DiFulvio and J.B. Guyton provided by Curt to better understand the events that attended this Board meeting held in Portland Oregon. led to where we are today. The meeting was attended by delegates from 12 of the 13 WFPS states, with only Hawaii absent. Guests in History: In 2004 Each MO became independently attendance included Curt Sumner, representing ACSM incorporated entities and NSPS; Roger Galles & Brian Pottwood, Professional ¥ Each MO maintains their own finances Land Surveyors of Oregon (PLSO); Denny DeMeyer, ¥ CSM serves as an implementation body Ð providing North American Land Surveyors & Team Canoe Cap- governmental affairs, conferences, publications, and tain; and Tim Kent, NSPS. staff There have been several new delegates this year. ¥ Anything beyond programs implemented by ACSM Please refer to the WFPS web site, www.wfps.org, for a (e.g., CST) ACSM is paid an hourly rate listing of current officers and delegates. ¥ Each MOU contributes to ACSM financially based on In addition to State Reports, a large portion of the membership to run the activities Issues meeting was spent discussing the situation with NSPS and their vote to “initiate the process of separating from The following Areas of Concern/Interest were identi- ACSM, while charging a committee to study and make a fied and discussed by the WFPS Board: report, by Sept. 15, 2010, on the financial and member- ¥ ABET Accreditation Ð maintain influence ship impacts of this action if it were to go full term”. ¥ ACSM/ALTA Standards Some of the WFPS delegates were in attendance at the ¥ NCEES Representation NSPS meeting in Phoenix, and Curt Sumner provided ¥ A more responsive national organization to action much background information which helped to under- items stand a number of events that led up to the NSPS vote, ¥ Governmental affairs program as well as an expression of the need for input and feed- ¥ Influence nationally in the political arena back on member state’s feelings on this important mat- ¥ Representation in new organization (governance) ter. It was understood that this situation will greatly affect ¥ Membership retention the profession of land surveying in the United States for ¥ Develops a vision & action plan to address the ques- the rest of our careers. A summary of the major ele- tion, “Why Should I Join” ments of the discussion, as well as the general feeling ¥ Impact on relationship with agencies (e.g., BLM, NGS, and consensus of delegates, as I understood it to be, is USGS, FEMA, HUD, etc.) and Universities as follows: ¥ Cost & structure of administration The NSPS committee charged with studying the ¥ Public Relations proposed withdraw is to report back to the NSPS Board ¥ Conference Identity & attendance of Governors by September 15, 2010. The study is sup- ¥ Delivery of Programs posed to include: ¥ Streamline the operational structure of NSPS ¥ Review of both positive and negative financial impacts It was requested that each state society carefully to NSPS discuss this situation and formulate an opinion on the ¥ Review of both positive and negative membership situation that can be brought forward and discussed at impacts to NSPS WFPS, as well as with NSPS leadership. After much dis- ¥ Input from general membership through Area Directors cussion, the WFPS Board decided to table the discus- and State Governors sion until we hear back from our member state societies Curt Sumner expressed a plea for input from the and also have a chance to review the report from the membership regarding what they want from their nation- NSPS Committee in September. In general, however al society Ð either NSPS, ACSM, or both. The time is there was a tentative feeling among Delegates that critical as the two year notice is ticking down and any re- there should be only one national society representing structuring takes time. There is a keen desire by both Land Surveyors, however a consensus as to whether or NSPS and ACSM leadership to know what the member- not that one society should be NSPS or ACSM was not ship wants from their national society. determined and will likely wait until our September During the discussions, it also became clear that meeting, after we have had a chance to review the very few people understand the operational functions of NSPS committee’s report. WFPS Chairman Ray Mathe NSPS and ACSM and that confusion and lack of under- (CA) will draft a letter to NSPS and ACSM stating that standing is leading to misinformed assumptions and we will weigh in on the issue and the process, and also conclusions with respect what each organization is request to participate with the subcommittee studying responsible for. A (very) brief tidbit of history also was the proposed withdraw.

SIDE SHOTS • 15 It was clear that this issue and by all accounts except for finances underwriters moved Land Surveyors the future existence of ACSM is the largely due to a significant drop in into the geophysical surveying most important issue facing survey- attendees attributed to the reces- group and out of the architects & ors today and should be carefully sion. Their contribution to the Four engineer’s group. studied and considered before for- Corners Monument Display was Nevada: Their membership mulating opinions either way. At a noted and appreciated. has seen a decline of about 30% minimum, everyone should read the California: The CLSA web site, from last year…. Their 2010 Confer- document “The Evolution of a www.californiasurveyors.org allows ence was held with CLSA for the National Voice”, The Future of the members the opportunity to man- first time since 2005 and was a National Society of Professional age their own Professional Develop- great success…. Their 2011 Confer- Surveyors, which has been widely ment Hours…. CLSA has developed ence will also be held with CLSA in distributed and summarizes the sit- an effective tri-fold for their current March, in Las Vegas…. NALS is uation, and access additional infor- and potential membership outlining sponsoring 4 hour seminars on the mation on the web sites for ACSM all the benefits of being a mem- 2009 Manual of Instructions in and NSPS. ber…. CLSA was recently asked to Reno and Las Vegas…. 9 high ACSM Report: Curt Sumner participate in an Amicus Curae in schools participated in their Trig briefed the WFPS Board on various the appellate decision of a major Star program this last year. activities of ACSM. Notable items case between UDC v. CH2M Hill in New Mexico: Their member- include their 2011 joint Conference regards to indemnity, and a hold ship saw a 15% drop in 2010…. In with ESRI User’s Group Conference harmless clause in a contract. The their legislature this year, SB 41 in San Diego. ACSM has been a co- case involved a decision for pay- passed and was signed into law. As sponsor of the ESRI Survey Summit ment of fees to defend and hold stated in the first sentence of the in the past and this is the first time harmless even though there was no bill, the “Act, Relating to Land the two major organizations will determination of negligence. The Grants; requiring notice to the host a major joint conference CA Supreme Court has denied the Boards of Trustees of certain com- together. petition to hear the case and has munity land grants before conduct- denied the de-publishing of the rul- ing boundary surveys of lands with- Selected highlights from ing…. Their Trig Star program in or bordering the Land Grant; involved 42 different high schools requiring the filing of proof of WFPS member states’ reaching approx. 650 students who notice.” The bill requires a surveyor reports: participated in the exam. shall give proof of the notice Colorado: JB Guyton present- required ……. by having the track- Alaska: The ASPLS 201 Con- ed a report summarizing the activi- ing number of the certified mailing ference will again be in Feb. in ties and matters of PLSC. and the address of the land grant Anchorage…. their 2013 Confer- Hawaii: Their 2011 Conference as recorded with the county clerk ence will be a major event com- is February 3 & 4 in Waikiki…. Their acknowledged and recorded on the memorating the Alaska/Canada Trig Star program involved 22 boundary survey or plat.” This legis- Boundary, with a series of events schools. Their program was started lation was passed because Land that will culminate with a Centennial in 2008…. Our HA delegate Kevin Grant Board members claim (incor- Celebration of the setting of the last Kea has started investigation and rectly) that these surveys are being International Boundary monument discussion to strengthen their used as an element of adverse pos- of the United States…. They are statutes, specifically with regards to session and are being conducted starting the process to review the the definition of a Land Surveyor, without their knowledge or consent Standards of Practice Manual, and is reviewing similar statutes (although not necessary). which has not gone through a from other WFPS states and input Oregon: PLSO’s 2011 Annual review since 1993…. Their focus for from other delegates. Conference will be January 19 Ð 21, their 2011-2012 legislative session Idaho: No report at the meeting again in Salem…. Their ever popu- will be to pass a statute for protect- due to a last minute family emer- lar TwiST program is cancelled this ing the signed and sealed docu- gency. A report will be provided with year due to only one person ments from being altered and the minutes, which were not avail- responding…. Oregon is in the copied without authorization, and a able yet at the time of this report. process of moving toward a low dis- statute change lifting the eight year Montana: MARLS committed tortion projection State Plane Coor- experience and education limit $10,200 for scholarship awards in dinate System statewide, through required of an applicant for becom- 2009, with an additional $5,500 ODOT and is looking forward to ing licensed…. Their BRAELS being distributed to high school stu- enabling legislation next year, called board is considering a new regula- dents participating in the Trig Star the OCRS Ð Oregon Coordinate tion to lower the required Continu- program…. Their 2011 conference Reference System…. Their ing Education Units from 30 to 24, will be Feb. 24 – 26 in Billings…. OSBEELS is continuing their efforts and they are also considering a reg- Their proposed by-laws change to to develop a Standards of Practice ulation to adopt the ASPLS Stan- include NSPS and WFPS delegates for Land Surveying, establishing dards of Practice Manual. as voting members was approved minimum levels of competency for Arizona: The APLS joint con- by their membership…. It was noted Land Surveyors. ference with ACSM was a success that their state worker’s comp. Utah: UCLS is currently work-

SIDE SHOTS • 16 ing with the Utah Assn. of County tered in the State…. LSAW Chap- the CFedS Panel meeting at the Surveyors on making changes to ters have provided funds sufficient ACSM Conference in Phoenix. As the Right of Entry statutes that were to support 12 teachers in their of April of this year, there are a adopted in 2008 to improve access TwiST program. total of 342 certified CFedS, rights for surveyors on private prop- Wyoming: The next PLSW including 50 in Colorado, and 486 erty…. The Board of Directors voted annual meeting will be February 2 Trainees to support the requirement of a four in Cheyenne…. PLSW President ¥ The WFPS Board approved the year degree for licensure as a Sur- Mark Rehwaldt, PE/LS has taken a award of two scholarships for the veyor in Utah and to start to move position with the University of 2010 Ð 2011 academic year in the on getting the requirement put into Wyoming in the Dept. of Civil and amount of $2,000 each to stu- their statutes…. The update to the Architectural Engineering as the dents at OIT Klamath Falls and UCLS Model Standards of Practice Director of the Land Surveying Pro- CSU Fresno. It was also noted for Boundary Surveys has been gram. Its Certificate of Land Survey- that since WFPS began awarding completed, for the first time in 10 ing program (all on line) is growing scholarships for the 2002 Ð 2003 years. and the proposed future curriculum academic year, a total of $56,800 Washington: The Washington includes course work that is in scholarships have been award- Council of County Surveyors required by varying state boards ed. (WCCS) is supportive and has rec- across the United States and ¥ The WFPS Board voted to donate ommended that APWA develop requested by students. They plan $2,500 to the Four Corners Mark- standard specifications for all Public on becoming self sufficient in three er project being championed by Works projects that require all con- years. Warren Ward of Colorado. struction surveying to be done by or ¥ A report on NCEES was provided, under the direct supervision of a Other items of interest: stating that license examinations professional land surveyor. Included ¥ The 2011 WFPS Conference will are down approx. 25% and that in this recommendation is the be held in association with the NCEES is moving to computer request that GPS machine control Washington and Idaho societies in based national testing networks be established and main- Spokane, Washington on March 2 - tained during the project by or 5, 2011. Our next meeting will be held in under the direct supervision of a ¥ A report was provided on the sta- Reno, Nevada on September 25th, professional land surveyor regis- tus of the CFedS program from 2010.

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SIDE SHOTS • 17 PLSC Board of Directors Meeting Minutes

May 7, 2010 Ð plies, other). We may need to use what has been passed by other in conjunction with the all of our savings to cover the 2010 states. mandatory expenses. WCLS Spring Session Awards committee, Stan Grand Vista Hotel, 2790 NSPS Governor Ð Warren Ward Vermilyea, Chair Crossroads Blvd., Four Corners monument dis- Stan Vermilyea is looking for Grand Junction, CO cussion: NSPS is going to put a dis- some volunteers to help him rewrite play with an explanation of how the the requirements so they are more monument was set so the public will current. Chapter level awards could Call to Order: 7:15 PM be able to read the story of the sur- be nominated at the state award vey. Warren has gotten permission level. WCLS is considering a month- Recognition of PLSC Board for the Navaho Parks. The construc- ly award. Tom Sylvester and Members and Officers Present: tion has to be completed by July 1. Micheal Bouchard are going to help Present: Tom Adams, Michael He has raised about $30,000 in Stan. Greer, Diana Askew, Micheal donations, including $5000 from Stan has the list of awards. Bouchard, Doug Berling, Patrick Utah. The initial design concept is 4 Action items: Di will find the Green, Stan Vermilyea, Peter Kent, 3x3 plaques, one in each state, list of recipients and start a binder Gary Gable, Warren Ward carved with a story about the sur- to keep the list of awards in. Absent: vey. Russ Clark, Roger Nelson Motion: Mike Greer moves to Nominations and Elections authorize Warren to proceed with Committee, Doug Berling, Chair Welcome of Guests: the Four Corners history display for Doug Berling has an article in Pam Fromhertz, Tom and service in kind up to $5000. We the Side Shots and hopes to get a Sheila Sylvester, Michael Murdock, authorize up to $500 in travel and few people to run. Mike Greer Rick Mason, Brian Bowker, Mark lodging expenses at this time. Stan announced that he is not running Young, James Sommerville, Louis Vermilyea seconds. Vote: Unani- for VP again Buettner mous approval The Final Point for Chic Chich- Ethics and Fair Practices, Patrick Approval of Minutes from ester to be coordinated by Dan Green, Chair Previous meeting: Griggs Discussion: most of the Motion: Patrick Green moves to Warren will get a Final Point changes to the PLSC Code of approve the minutes from 3-31- for Bob Stollard as well. Ethics were to change the male ref- 2010. Gary Gable seconds. Warren requests the PLSC erences to his/her and then they Discussion: Ex-officio directors Board authorize funds to send him beefed up some of it. They are ask- have been invited to join the Board to Orlando, FL in the fall for the ing for comments and questions. Is of Directors. Parker Newby will rep- NSPS meeting. this too high of a standard for us? resent the Southwest chapter and Tom thanks Warren for the time Rick Mason suggested that it may Ron Perkins will represent the he has put in as the Colorado Gov- be a good idea to have an attorney Northern chapter. Vote: Unanimous ernor for the NSPS. look at it. Also, there was a discus- approval. sion regarding the references to Chapter Reports land surveyor or surveyor or profes- Reports (full version of the WCLS - The session was good; sional land surveyor. minutes with all attachments and they felt the economy impacted Action items: Patrick will check reports are available online at attendance and thanked the PLSC with Ed Bristow and ask him to look www.plsc.net) Board for coming over. for items that may cause problems SCPLS Ð The Annual Golf Tour- and will tweak the language accord- Secretary-Treasurer, Diana Askew nament is on August 7. ingly. Diana provided a copy of the 2010 budget to the Board for con- Legislative Committee, Roger Education Committee, Peter Kent, sideration. The membership is down Nelson, Chair Chair substantially in relation to this time The Monument Record time Peter Kent: We have been last year. Because we are moving increase was not accepted by the doing the phone conferences. Mike the annual conference to 2011 we legislative committee. Suggest has the facility reserved, the Arvada will not have conference income for adding lat and long, adding photos, Center. The rooms are nice and 2010, however, we will have up increase the number of ties. Refer- there is plenty of free parking. The front expenses for the venue in ences need to be set at an appro- PLSC is merging with CCPS and 2010. Diana suggests holding off on priate distance. the SCPLS to combine efforts and any unnecessary expenses for the Machine control: Roger was in save costs. We will hold our annual remainder of 2010 and to keep contact with the AES Board to see meeting. costs to a minimum (travel, sup-

SIDE SHOTS • 18 Tom Adams: The Southern and June 9, 2010 Through whether they are members or not or Northern chapters were contacted June 24, 2010 via whether they are licensed or not. and they agreed immediately to join Peter Ð what does it cost the PLSC or merge with us. Pam and the Conference Call to be members of the NSPS? Noth- NOAA/NGS speakers are invited to ing, we are affiliates. Warren says it speak. Possible topics are Dave Call to Order: costs $2,500 per year to travel to Doyle and Pam presenting the NGS 4:30 PM the meetings. There are an over- 10 year plan. Pam can do a dog and whelming number of surveyors and pony show regarding tools available Recognition of PLSC Board there are not enough geodesists that some folks may not know about. Members and Officers Present: and mappers. There are 3000 sur- There are new developments com- Present: Tom Adams, Michael veying members and the others ing down the pike with OPUS and Greer, Diana Askew, Micheal have 500 members together, so CORRS. Bill Henning can talk about Bouchard, Doug Berling, Roger Nel- they are getting more funding from the GPS derived heights. Other pos- son, Patrick Green, Stan Vermilyea, the NSPS for the ACSM. Warren sible topics include training for air- Peter Kent, Gary Gable, Warren suggests a straw poll because time port surveys with the FAA as a two Ward, JB Guyton is not an issue at this point. day workshop which conjunction Absent: Russell Clark Following a discussion the with the conference. Airport surveys members of the Board feel there is are complicated. Positive train con- Secretary-Treasurer, Diana Askew not enough information to make a trol in Pueblo may be able to come See Treasurer’s Report below decision at this time. Conclusions: and talk. (updated) Warren will not say anything and not make a motion to reverse the Special Committees NSPS Governor Ð Warren Ward decision. QBS Colorado representative Do we approve of the NSPS Warren requests $1300 to go to discussion: Dave DiFulvio, Russ decision to separate from the Orlando in November for the NSPS Clark, and Gary Gable have volun- ACSM? Warren indicates that if we meeting. Discussion tabled. teered to represent the PLSC on do nothing and nobody does or the QBS Colorado Board of Direc- says anything and the NSPS with- Legislative Committee, Roger tors. draws for the ACSM in two years Ð Nelson, Chair if someone was to go to the meet- Tom asks if we want to renew Next Meeting Date and Location: ing in two years and ask that the the contract with Peg. Roger feels 4:30 PM, Wednesday, June 9, process stop, it may not stop, that if we don’t have a contract with 2010 via conference call. Tom or Di maybe by the board of directors? a lobbyist there is no point to con- will send a notice to the president of We need a report to get more infor- tinue with legislative committee each chapter. mation to give us better reasons to meetings. Lobbying is a process make the decisions. Warren would that takes time. They need to watch Adjourn: 10:00 PM like opinions or otherwise Warren others out there as well. Tom asks if will make a motion in November to the lobbyist can be hired if we have Respectfully submitted: reverse the decision. Warren says in something to take through the legis- Diana E Askew, PLS his opinion and every surveyor in lature. Roger needs to know if Peg PLSC Secretary-Treasurer America benefits NSPS and ACSM would be willing to offer different

SIDE SHOTS • 19 levels of service at a different fee Unfinished and New Business many copies would Ed include in schedule. Stop start may not be the price or is that just the cost of such a good deal and he has some Case Law Book, Ed Bristow, PLS, the research? Vote: Unanimous experience with what happened last ESQ approval year. Discussion of three options Conclusions: Di and Tom will Conclusions: Roger will get a offered by Ed for a Case Law Book investigate option with Ed and get fee schedule and get it back to the Ð Tom offered an overview of the answers to the questions Ð if there board for discussion later. A lobbyist options and the CEU’s for other dis- are more please send them to Di is necessary in order for the PLSC ciplines together with the book. JB Ð and she will add them to the list to approve the legislative committee big pool of attorneys, agency of the to proceed with possible legislation. Supreme Court in the state of Col- Next Meeting: If not we could possibly ask Peg to orado, at least one attorney has to 4:30 PM, Thursday, June 17, watch out for our interest at a differ- be in the audience, need 6 months 2010 via conference Call ent fee. to get approved. Need approval of the subject material. We may be too Adjourn: Ethics and Fair Practices, Patrick late if we want to attract attorneys. 5:55 PM Green, Chair Possible option is to have a seminar Discussion: Tom asks if there in a hotel venue or similar after the are any comments on Ed’s com- conference. Once we make a deci- June 17, 2010 - ments on the code of ethics. Patrick sion from the three options we suggests that we table this to the would like to pursue, Tom and Di Conference Call next meeting Ð we don’t have would approach Ed for the details. Call to Order: enough time to go through the list Motion: Gary moves that the 4:35 PM line by line and it will take more board authorizes Tom and Diana to than 15 minutes. further investigate item 2 and report Recognition of PLSC Board Conclusions: Tom asks every- back to the board for further Members and Officers: one to read the comments made by approval. Patrick Green seconds. Present: Tom Adams, Michael Ed and discuss the document at the Discussion: Stan asks how it fits Greer, Diana Askew, Micheal next meeting. into our budget. We will not make an inquiry to clear up the details Bouchard, Roger Nelson, Patrick and not obligate ourselves to pur- Green, Stan Vermilyea, Peter Kent, chase any of the options. How Gary Gable, Parker Newby, Ron Perkins, JB Guyton

SIDE SHOTS • 20 Absent: Russ Clark, Doug Berling

Approval of Minutes from Previous meeting(s): Motion: Roger Nelson moves to approve the June 9 (change date of the next meeting from November to June) Stan seconds. Discussion: none Vote: Unanimous approval Motion: Roger Nelson moves to approve the May 7 minutes. Pete seconds. Discussion: remove the extra W in Warren Legislative com- mittee discussion. Vote: Unanimous approval

Legislative Committee, Roger Nelson, Chair Discussion regarding the Basis of Bearing statement revisions sug- gested in the rulemaking process: Motion: Patrick Green moves to direct the legislative committee to look into the BOB statement to see if it should be added to other types of surveying documents. Roger Nelson seconds. Discussion: Mike B asks if the statute needs to be changed or if it just needs to be looked at. BOB purpose is to help other surveyors follow in the foot- steps of another surveyor. The statute only addresses adding a basis of bearing to be added to LSP’s. The Statute is obsolete. Sun- set will begin next year and needs to be done by 2013. Do we want to wait two years or address it now? Roger Ð you want us to do research and report back to the board for fur- ther direction. Roger said it may be too late to craft language and have it ready for the upcoming legislative session. The rules committee can hammer it out and see what can be addressed in the rules before we start thinking about changing the statute. Vote: yes MB, no MG, yes Gable, yes Patrick, yes Peter, yes Parker, yes Ron Perkins, yes Roger, Stan yes; approved Discussion regarding Machine Grading: We were directed to do research and find information from other states, and the board would read it and see if the legislative committee would attempt to find ways to legislate that or if we should stand down. Motion: Roger moves to advise the legislative committee not to develop statutes to regulate

SIDE SHOTS • 21 machine control grading and to ask to next year it makes sense that we Secretary-Treasurer, Diana Askew the legislative committee to stand would be in a deficit this year. Di sent an actual income budg- down on this issue: Michael et to the board following the meet- Bouchard seconds. Discussion: Next Meeting Date and Location: ing on June 17 for the board to Gary said it was discussed at the 4:30 PM, Thursday, June 24, review and consider. QBS and it is a problem for the 2010 via conference call. engineering discipline as well. The Adjourn: NSPS Governor Ð Warren Ward issue is big and needs to be coordi- 6:10 PM Tom indicated that Warren nated with multiple disciplines. June 24, 2010 Ð asked for up to $1,200 for a trip to Patrick found the report to be com- Florida for his next and last meet- prehensive but the subject is still in Conference Call ing. its infancy. Gable suggested an ad Motion: Diana Askew moves to Call to Order: hoc committee to work with ACEC offer Warren $600 to cover his 4:35 PM and other groups. Vote: Unanimous expenses to go to Florida. Patrick approval (for the committee to stand Green seconds. Discussion: The down on the issue) Recognition of PLSC Board PLSC is in financial trouble Ð we Discussion regarding lobbyist Members and Officers: have sent Warren to one confer- (continued from 6-9-2010): If we run Present: Tom Adams, Michael ence per year for the past few hot and cold with the lobbyist we Greer, Diana Askew, Micheal years. Asking for funding for two run the risk of the lobbyist not being Bouchard, Patrick Green, Stan Ver- conference trips in one year consid- willing to represent us or may fill her milyea, Gary Gable, JB Guyton ering our financial situation puts us “dance card”. Diana shared the Absent: in a difficult situation. This will be budget considerations to take into Russ Clark, Doug Berling, Warren’s last conference as the account. We are 120 or so mem- Roger Nelson, Peter Kent, Parker Colorado NSPS governor. We did bers short from last year if you take Newby, Ron Perkins some online research during the into consideration the number of meeting and found that $600 would freebie members and the member- Legislative Committee, Roger be more than adequate to cover his ship to date is down 60 members. Nelson, Chair expenses. Vote: Askew, Greer, Stan suggests that Roger check Comments on hiring Peg Ð we Bouchard and Green for Ð Vermi- with Peg and see if we can get a can go a year without a new bill and lyea and Gable oppose; approved. lower level of service and possibly ask the legislative committee to upgrade it if necessary during the watch the legislation. We will send Next Meeting Date and Location: legislative session. Ron seconds: her a nice letter. 4:30 PM, Wednesday July 28, Patrick moves that we Gary asks that Di reevaluates Motion: 2010 via conference call. Next phys- do not hire a lobbyist this year and the budget with actual income and ical meeting: 6:00 PM dinner and send a nice letter to Peg and let her emails it out to everyone. Parker meeting, Saturday, August 6, 2010 know that if we are in better shape noticed that in Peg’s estimate she in conjunction with the SCPLS Golf next year we’ll be in touch. Mike said she would work with us. Vote: Tournament on August 7, 2010. Bouchard seconds. Vote: Unani- unanimous. Roger indicated that mous approval since we have moved our conference Adjourn: 5:46 PM

Respectfully submitted: Diana E Askew, PLS PLSC Secretary-Treasurer

SIDE SHOTS • 22 House Bill HB10-1085

Governor Ritter signed House Bill HB10-1085 on April 15, 2010, regarding land surveyor’s affidavits of correction and education requirements for licensure. Standing, left to right: Senator Abel J. Tapia, Randy Reeves (Pueblo County Surveyor candidate), Pueblo County Commissioner (District 1) Anthony Nuñez, PLSC Executive Director Diana Askew, Steve Balcerovich (Strategic Partner of Ackerman Information Corporation), and Colorado State Representative Jim Kerr. Seated, Governor Bill Ritter.

Please join us September 14-17th in Loveland, CO for the 23rd annual GIS in the Rockies Conference. The main conference program will be September 15-16th. We will have pre-conference workshops on September 14th and post- conference company tours on September 17th.

This year's conference focuses on examining the growth opportunities for geospatial technology in our information-dependant world. The geospatial industry has come a long way in the first 10 years of the 21st Century. Our world has become more geo-enabled than ever. As we close out one decade and start a new one, we want to celebrate the accomplishments of our industry and look forward to new opportunities for growth in the technological boom that is upon us. Join us in learning, sharing, and networking with some of the industry's best and brightest individuals and cutting-edge companies, right here in our own backyard.

For the complete program, and registration information, visit: www.gisintherockies.org

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CCPS We are looking for 12 volunteers and other topics may be found at this year so elections are competi- www.GISintheRockies.org. The next CCPS general mem- tive. You do not have to be a The CSRN elections committee bership meeting is to be convened licensed surveyor in Colorado to is seeking input from individuals at 7:00 PM on August 26th at the hold office, but you do need to be a considering running for the position Doubletree Hotel at Iliff and I-225. CCPS member. If you are interested of President; Vice President; Secre- The featured presentation will be on in serving the central Colorado sur- tary; or Director for 2011. Elections the status of and developments veying community in any of these for these positions will be held in concerning the NGS Colorado State vital capacities, email Earl Hender- the fall of 2010. Minimum require- Geodetic Advisor’s program in Col- son, [email protected]. The time ments for each position may be orado. The presenter will be Pam commitment is only 4-8 hours per found in the bylaws posted on the Fromhertz, Colorado State Geodetic month and your services are need- CSRN website. Advisor from NGS. NGS is intro- ed. It is an honor to be elected. In cooperation with the PLSC ducing a new vertical datum and we The copies of the Hayden Atlas the CSRN has begun collecting will learn how that will impact our on hand are running low. Order annual membership dues from surveying choices. The featured yours before they are out of print. PLSC members effective January 1, vendor will be Hixon Manufacturing Email Joe Conway at 2010. Dues for sustaining and non- and Supply. Dinner will be served [email protected] to order PLSC members (i.e. geospatial prior to the meeting at 6:30 with yours for $75 which includes ship- industries) will continue to be cash bar at 6:00. All CCPS mem- ping costs. You can purchase a waived for the year. Please consider bers are cordially invited. copy of the Hayden Atlas at any of becoming a member of the CSRN The CCPS scholarship commit- our meetings in person for $70. in addition to your regular chapter. tee has received 4 applications for Michael Greer made a special If you are interested in learning scholarships for the fall 2010 presentation to the family of Chic more about the CSRN please con- semester. The committee is review- Chichester at our last general mem- tact us through our website at ing the applications and will decide bership meeting. Michael presented www.CSRN.us or you may contact the recipients soon. Rob Snodgrass the family a very special “Final me directly at 303-512-4401 or will present the scholarships at the Point” survey monument from the [email protected]. CCPS general membership meeting Professional Land Surveyors of Col- Dan Smith on August 26th. CCPS is partnering orado to express gratitude, appreci- President Ð CSRN with PLSC in financing the scholar- ation and thanks for the contribu- ships this year. tions Chic made to the PLSC. The CCPS communication Hope your summer is success- NC committee is working on a new look ful and enjoyable. and content for our web page. Joe Conway Because the Northern Chapter Presently there are overlaps in con- CCPS President is currently on summer break there tent with the award winning is little news to share that has not “PLSC.net” page and we would like CSRN been mentioned in previous issues. to make it less repetitive and more The Chapter will resume meetings efficient in presenting information. The Colorado Spatial Reference in early September and we are con- CCPS also now has a Facebook Network will hold its first Summer sidering different days and times in presence. Search for Central Col- BBQ / Potluck on July 31, 2010, at order to boost attendance. The Mid- orado Surveyors on Facebook and Bayou Gulch Regional Park in Park- Year Economic update hosted by join us for meeting notifications and er, CO. We hope to make this an the Northern Colorado Business updates. You can also email annual event. Photos of the event Report on July 14 that featured [email protected] for more will be posted on the CSRN web- three keynote speakers from the information. site. region affirmed what we already CCPS wishes to thank Gaby The CSRN has partnered with know: First, that the recession is Nuenzert for his presentation on the PLSC to present two topics at over and second, that recovery will roads and bridges of Switzerland at GIS in the Rockies on September be a slow and painful process. We the last CCPS general meeting. The 14 Ð 17, 2010. Bill Henning, RTN have seen several companies close presentation was entertaining and Program Manager with NGS/NOAA their satellite offices here in North- informative and Gaby’s efforts are will present GNSS Real Time Net- ern Colorado as well as a few oth- greatly appreciated. works Ð The Next Generation Infra- ers closing their Civil Engineering or CCPS is looking to fill 4 Director structure for all Geospatial Data; Surveying Departments. With that Positions, a Vice President, and a and Daniel Akin, PE/PLS, will pres- said I feel that the worst is behind Secretary position for next year. The ent Legal Descriptions Ð A Primer us and have seen indicators that offices are filled by an election of for GIS Professionals and Land point to a brighter future. Although the membership held in October. Surveyors. Information about these new housing got off to a slow start

SIDE SHOTS • 24 C H A P T E R N E W S this spring we have seen several veys in the area started with an SWC/PLSC builders begin construction on pre- 1883/1884 Third Correction Line sold homes. Windsor, Fort Collins South, followed by a survey by The SW Chapter had its regular and Loveland have faired better Edwin Kellogg in 1895. Treece and meeting on May 11th at Christina’s than most municipalities and are Fuller also did surveys in the town- Bar and Grill at the Best Western still spending money on capital ship, and there was even a sus- Motel in Durango. Members in improvement projects. CSU has pended survey - the government attendance were Rob Trudeaux, begun the design process for sever- refused to recognize the survey Richard Harrison, Dave Seiler and al large projects on their main cam- work due to large errors. A subse- Parker Newby. pus, which will breathe life into the quent survey directed the surveyors The 2010 Seminar will not be construction sector. We are very to remove all evidence of the sus- held. Discussion was held on how optimistic about the future. pended survey, such as removing to organize the 2011 seminar. Dave Larry Pepek, PLS the stone corners, but apparently S. will discuss the 2011 available Northern Chapter they missed at least one, because dates with FLC. Dave Ginther found it. The country Dave Seiler reviewed the is extremely rugged and none of us attached PLSC BOD’s report as of NW 1/4 have ever done this, but the 1890’s 5/5/2010. This is the report that surveyor probably looked at the was presented at the Western The NW 1/4 met March 22 in probable corner location and said, Chapter’s seminar on 5-7-2010. Craig, Colorado at the Holiday Inn. “Oh, they wouldn’t set that.” But of Dave also reviewed the SW Chap- The meeting was called to order by course they did, it was invalid, and ter’s financial statement. Parker John Noonan, V.P., attending were Ginther’s crew pulled the stone 110 Newby reported on House Bill (HB) Tom Effinger, Walter Magill, Brian T. years later. The meeting concluded 1085 regarding surveyor’s licensure Kelly, Lloyd Powers, Jim Joy and at nine o’clock. and affidavit of correction. Parker Dave Ginther. Treasurer’s report Brian T. Kelly also reported on the recent BOD revealed we have $1,316.56 in our Sec.-Treasurer, NW 1/4 meeting in Grand Junction. Items of account, and the report and min- note included the proposed NSPS utes were approved with minor revi- break away from the ACSM. sions. SCPLS Old business included an New business primarily con- acknowledgement of the continu- cerned the database for the plat The 22nd Annual Paul Grout ance of Roberts Rules of Order for deposits in Routt County. Tom Effin- Memorial Golf Tournament & Picnic SW Chapter meeting procedures. ger and John have been working will be held on Saturday, August 7 The chapter will also strive for inclu- hard on this and there are over at the Hollydot Golf Course in Col- sion of all chapter members during 2500 records so far. The County orado City. It is an 18-hole, 4 per- discussions of items requiring for- has tentatively agreed to keep the son scramble tournament. It is mal chapter decisions. database updated once it is com- always a great time to get together Suggestions for speakers and plete at a point in time, but Skidge with other surveyors from around events for chapter meetings in 2011 Moon, County Surveyor, needs to the region to play golf and catch up are always welcome. confirm. with each other at the picnic after- Chapter and member contact Tom let the members know that wards. list update Ð This is an ongoing the biggest disciplinary action by Look for information to appear project. Please let us know if your the State Board concerns failure to in either your inbox or mailbox. information changes. pay licensing fees, and essentially This year the Southern Chapter The next SW Chapter meeting practicing without a valid license. took a look at the state of the econ- will be Tuesday July 13th at 6:00. Dave Ginther, BLM surveyor for omy and decided to join forces with The location will be determined and NW Colorado, Craig office, led the the Central Chapter and with PLSC a notice sent out. program for the evening. His pro- and have a combined workshop. Rob Trudeaux gram concluded an earlier presen- We are hopeful that the economy President, SWC tation from December concerning will recover enough next year to the confluence of three principal allow us to have our regular Fall meridians-the Ute, New Mexico and Workshop in 2011. WCLS 6th P.M. in Section 36, T15S, R98W, Thank you, 6th P.M.This area is now commonly Mark Johannes Western Colorado Land Sur- known as the Dominguez-Escalante President, SCPLS veyors had a very successful Spring National Conservation Area which Seminar on May 7, 2010 with Geoff is about 220,000 acres. There is pri- Anderson discussing Quiet Title vate land in Section 36 and also Actions in Colorado and Bob along the Gunnison River. The sur- Green, Chuck Hutchins, and Matt

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Nawrocki presenting Thinking Out- conjunction with the PLSC present- by our State Legislature that affect side the Box. We want to thank ed a $1,000.00 scholarship to Ryan our profession. everyone that attended and hope Reed who is enrolled in surveying We are planning our Summer that you all benefited from the at Westwood College. He is a very Picnic the evening of July 14, 2010 excellent presentations. It was nice deserving recipient. It was nice to at Canyon View Park. This provides to see several of the PLSC Board of have a good slate of very rounded us a nice mid-summer break from Directors in attendance. and talented applicants from which our surveying activities with an We also hosted the PLSC to choose. agenda of visiting with good friends, Board meeting in the evening after Because of the close proximity eating heartily, and having a good the seminar was over. I want to of our regular May meeting to the time. Families are invited and every- thank the Board for traveling so far seminar, we had a light turnout, but one is encouraged to invite a friend. for their meeting. Those of us that we were all intrigued by Peter Thomas W. Sylvester, were able to attend found the meet- Krick’s presentation on surveying in P. E . & P. L . S . ing very informative. Florida. We also had an informal President/WCLS At the seminar, the WCLS in discussion of the new laws passed

WCLS Surveyor Appreciation Award Letter To Peter T. Krick, PLS

Dear Peter:

On behalf of the Western Colorado Land Surveyors, I want to award you our March 2010 Surveyor Appre- ciation Award.

Because of a potential conflict of interest, you have understandably elected not to be involved in key lead- ership roles within our chapter. However, you have gone out of your way to give back to our organization, profession, and community in many other ways.

You have made arrangements for our chapter to meet at the City Hall and provided us with the dinners at our chapter meetings for several years and have been an active participant in our meetings. You continually and diplomatically work with our local surveyors in assisting them to meet City standards on their surveying submittals. As such, I believe the caliber of final surveys in the Grand Valley is of the highest order in the state. You work with the City planning staff and City attorneys to ensure they understand the various nuances of boundary law which in turn helps the surveying community resolve many of the issues that arise during an application review process.

You have graciously offered your time and your crew’s time in many of the outreach efforts our chapter has put forth in the local schools and have been an active participant in the Math Counts competition for sever- al years. And you encourage and mentor your crews to improve their skills and gain the status of Professional Land Surveys.

Please accept our heartfelt thanks for the effort and dedication you have given to our community.

Sincerely, Thomas W. Sylvester, PE & PLS, President, Western Colorado Land Surveyors

SIDE SHOTS • 26 Survey Stories By Jim Sommerville

When hiring someone on the been trimming branches, I could ing their hardships, old, and I mean spur of the moment, say in a bar at see that he had done exactly as I really old, cowboys telling tails of midnight, you never know what you had instructed. The branches had encounters with the Indians, cattle- are going to end up with. Talking to been sawn off at the trunk of the man vs. sheepherders, home- someone in a social setting does tree up to the branch I had told him steading and so on. Every occupa- not always give you the true capa- to stop at: The one and the same tion has their stories. Some are bilities of that person. I came to this branch he was sitting on! With his more exciting than others while oth- realization early in my surveying feet dangling, the saw in his right ers don’t mean anything to anyone career. hand and holding a branch at head outside that particular occupation, While conducting a power line level with his left hand, the look on or profession. survey in the mountains of Colorado his face was a mixture of emotions. Surveying encompasses a vast between Dillon and Georgetown, it He had done such a great job of number of other occupations and became necessary to add on an trimming off the limbs that there professions. To the surveyors read- additional helper. No experience was no way for him to climb down. ing this list, try to think of how many was needed, they didn’t need to The slope that the tree was on was times you have had to apply some think, just be able to carry heavy too steep for him to jump and I did- of the skills of these other profes- loads up steep mountains. We held n’t have a rope, so there he sat. sions: trucker, EMT, cowboy, lawyer, a short, productive search that Personally, my urge to throw rocks mediator, mechanic, outfitter, detec- evening to the bar of which we made at him was almost unbearable. My tive, miner, engineer, construction nightly visits. The interview was only option was to hike back to the worker, environmentalist…and the short and we asked questions while truck, grab a handful of spikes and list is as long as one’s mind can we drank beer and played pool. We a hammer, and hike back to the tree imagine. chose the one that could still talk and pound in the spikes as a The stories that all people tell coherently when we left the bar. makeshift ladder. This I did, except, are a small part of their personal That next morning at daybreak, prior to the pounding of the spikes, I histories. We have all read stories we all met at the condominium to negotiated payment for the grief his of the famous surveyors of the past discuss the plan for the day. My job lack of common sense had caused and may even know some of the was to take the new man and hike me. Three steak dinners would be renowned men and women in the up to a PI on top of a bald knob and enough compensation, of which he profession now. The stories about turn the reciprocal vertical and hori- agreed with little hesitation. Three these people are history. These are zontal angles to the control it had plus hours sitting on the branch was the people who have written the been tied from. This survey took a great bargaining chip. After many books and manuals by which we place in 1976, so there was a con- years of telling this story and think- conduct our surveys. They are part siderable amount of equipment to ing about it, most of the fault lies of our overall professional history. haul up the hill. The PI was a little with me. While his lack of common But what about all the unwritten over a half mile with an 1100 ft. ver- sense did contribute, he did exactly personal stories by the thousands tical difference from the truck, what I told him to do. of surveyors across this vast coun- through sage brush and small This is only one of the memo- try? Are they not part of our profes- stands of dense timber. It was a ries I have accumulated over the sional history, though less famous, beautiful mountain day, no clouds, many years I have been surveying. but just as much a rich part of it? with the temperature in the low 60’s, All these memories become stories The finding of an interesting land making the hour-long hike almost that are repeated over and over, a corner, the three and one half foot enjoyable. Upon reaching the PI, I history, for the most part, that has rattlesnake who’s fangs got caught instructed my help to start trimming gone unwritten and lost forever. We in the cuff of a pant leg after a the branches on a large evergreen have all read the stories of the great missed strike, losing a wheel and that was on line with two of the con- surveyors of the past, but there are axel on a trailer loaded with 4x4 trol points I needed to survey. One no books conveying the personal claim posts on the highway, cross- fell on each side of the tree, so I told stories of the everyday surveyor. sectioning the Colorado river at high him to cut all of the branches off We tell of our exploits to family, water, getting caught in a railroad flush with the tree trunk, as this was friends, peers and anybody who will tunnel by the Amtrak train, hanging required by the forest service, up to listen. Stories are how we build our off a 90-ft cliff to set power pole a branch I pointed out that was self esteem and fortify our reasons anchors, …these are a small num- about 20 ft. above the ground. As for being surveyors. ber of memories of just one survey- he was doing this I got the instru- Over the years I have had the or. If we got together and compiled ment set up and did my calculations. opportunity to sit and listen to sto- a book of our experiences, exploits A half hour or so had passed ries being told by people from a and conquests, we could establish when I heard my new, no experi- variety of occupations, including an impressive historic record of our ence needed, help call my name. railroad engineers telling of their personal experiences. As I looked over to where he had near disasters, old miners recount-

SIDE SHOTS • 27 ‘All Experience Counts’ Advice to Young People Entering the Profession of Land Surveying By: Dean F. Glorso, PLS

In 1967, I was working in an automotive garage just ing the complex legal descriptions. So I told my boss outside Chicago, Illinois where we serviced a fleet of about the typing class I had in high school, and wanted construction vehicles for a land development and home to take a shot at that job too. He soon put me to work building firm. It just so happened, one of the survey on a drafting table and a manual typewriter where I con- crews were in for an oil change one day, and a buddy tinued to observe, ask questions and struggle to type had recommended me for a rodman job on their crew. I those crazy legal descriptions. I was slow at typing, but didn’t know it then, but this was the beginning of my “40 as accurate as I could be, and soon found a regular year plus” career as a land surveyor. position in the busy engineering office for the winter. Learning the field work was wonderful, but the Being 19 years old, not in college, and holding a 1- Chicago winters were brutal. So I decided to learn A draft card in the spring of 1968, made me fresh meat everything I could to qualify myself for work in the office for the military. My Greetings from Uncle Sam came on during the winter months. If I saw that blueprints need- my 20th birthday only a few weeks after the start of the ed running, I volunteered to scurry them through the old TET Offensive in Vietnam. The War was escalating and Diazo machine. When I observed the men at the draft- the “Greeting” told me to report to the Chicago Induction ing tables complaining about drawing so many plot Center in the next 30 days. I attempted enlistment in plans, I told my boss about my mechanical drafting the Navy Sea Bees (construction arm of the U.S. Navy class in high school, and volunteered to help. I also & U.S. Marine Corps), so I could continue my love for noticed the secretaries’ spite, in the front office, for typ- surveying, but the recruiter told me it was too late once I received the draft notice. I was poised to go into the Army, or so I thought. On the day of my induction they asked for volun- teers into the United States Marine Corps. Of course none of us 300 inductees in the room jumped at that chance, as the battle for Khe Sanh was stacking up big lists of Marine casualties on the front pages of the newspapers every day. As I stood in line waiting to take the physical exam, it seemed like an even grimmer situ- ation when an Army Sergeant placed a pink slip of paper on the top of my stack of documents indicating I would be one of the so called Marine Corps “volun- teers”. I knew nothing about the Marine Corps, other than Lance Corporal Richard R. Mullin, a Marine from my hometown had been killed serving in Vietnam a year earlier. I would soon learn that all Marines are, first and foremost, Riflemen. Or as they fondly call themselves, “Grunts”. Four of us on the plane to the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego held special travel orders. We were set apart from the rest of the traveling group as “Inductees”. Because we didn’t actually volunteer, we four especially didn’t want to be there, and were brand- ed with an “SS” next to our service numbers. The “SS” stood for “Selective Service”. Seeing this next to our service numbers, the Marine Corps Drill Instructors would soon give us a “special” attitude adjustment dur- ing the next 10 weeks of Marine boot camp. At one point during the week long initial aptitude testing, I was asked if I wanted to take a typing test. “Yes sir!” was my reply and I proceeded to nervously type only 19 words a minute on an old manual Under- wood typewriter. For the remaining 10 weeks of hell, I PFC Dean F. Glorso, All Weather Marine Attack Squadron did my best to adjust my outlook and accept the fact 242, Marine Air Group 11, 1st Marine Air Wing, Republic of that I would probably die in the jungles of Vietnam. “It Vietnam Ð 1969 (A6A Aircraft #7) was just a matter of time”, I thought. web site FYI: www.vma-aw-242.com Upon graduation from Boot Camp, the 65-man pla- Photo by Capt. K.C. “Kit” Corcoran toon huddled together in one of the quonset huts while

SIDE SHOTS • 28 the Drill Instructor (D.I.) read off Group 11). Traveling alone in the this hut would be my duty station for names, numbers, and destinations. back of that 6X6 truck in the mon- the next 365 days. Soon I heard him say, “Glorso, soon rain, in a foreign land with Every skill learned, even though 0141, WestPac”. “Sir, what does people I could not communicate not perfected, will count in your that mean?” I asked standing at with, was the loneliest time in my career. My ability to type 19 words attention. “WestPac means you’re life. Soon the driver stopped and a minute in the United States going to die, Maggot”, he scorned yelled out the window, this is MAG Marine Corps kept me out of the as his evil eyes met mine. “West- 11. As I got out of the back of the jungles of Vietnam and probably Pac is Vietnam, Private, you got truck, his arm pointed out the half saved my life. As a clerk at this orders for the First MARDIV (First rolled down window toward a tin duty station, I continued to observe, Marine Division). You’ll be up north roof covered hut. “Report in there”, ask questions, and learn as much where the action is.” he said. as I could about the operations of a After more months of training, I Holding my sea bag in the Marine Attack Air Squadron in the soon found myself on an airplane to downpour, trying to keep it out of Republic of Vietnam. Soon my Vietnam in November 1968. We the mud, I made my way to the superiors put me in charge of the stopped in Okinawa for 5 days of dimly lit hut. After bumping my squadron mail room, a job that more processing before our final head hard on the low cut doorway, I gained the respect of both junior approach to DaNang. For some could see there were 4 Marines in and senior alike. Before E-mail and unknown reason a clerk stamped the building sitting behind crates for a cell phone, the U.S. Mail was the my original orders with a big red desks with typewriters. I stepped life line to loved ones back in “the “CANCELLED” stamp. Then up to the Sergeant’s desk and pre- world”. The Mail Clerk job prepared changed “1STMAR DIV” to sented my documents. He opened me to accept responsibility and “1STMAW”. Having no idea what them, and said excitedly, “Hey gave me organizational skills to that meant, I asked around until Gunny, we got a ‘0141’ here!” later run a land surveying business. someone told me that I was going Soon I was surrounded by Marines Soak in the knowledge, for you to the First Marine Air Wing instead wanting to shake my hand and the never know what skill may just of the First Marine Division. Once word was spread to the adjacent someday save your life. in DaNang, I was instructed to hut where a Lieutenant came over board a truck loaded with South to greet me. When I was greeted Vietnam civilians and get off at a by a Lance Corporal called “Ski”, I place called MAG 11 (Marine Air learned I was his replacement and

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