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Congressional Record—Senate S13541 October 30, 2007 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — SENATE S13541 Casey Johnson Nelson (NE) [Rollcall Vote No. 398 Leg.] man of the subcommittee and the lead- Cochran Kennedy Pryor YEAS—79 ership on both sides to get an agree- Coleman Kerry Reed Collins Klobuchar Reid Akaka Feingold Menendez ment worked out on how we proceed on Conrad Kohl Rockefeller Alexander Feinstein Mikulski this issue for the remainder of the Corker Landrieu Salazar Baucus Graham Murkowski afternoon. In the meantime, Senator Craig Lautenberg Sanders Bayh Grassley Murray Bennett Hagel DEMINT is here and ready to go on an Dole Leahy Schumer Nelson (FL) Domenici Levin Bingaman Harkin Smith Nelson (NE) amendment, and he has a committee Dorgan Lieberman Bond Hatch Snowe Pryor markup underway also. Durbin Lincoln Boxer Hutchison Reed Specter Brown Inouye So unless there is objection, I ask Feingold Lott Reid Feinstein Lugar Stabenow Burr Isakson Senator LAUTENBERG, could we let Sen- Roberts Grassley Martinez Stevens Byrd Johnson E INT Rockefeller ator D M call up his amendment Hagel Menendez Tester Cantwell Kennedy and go ahead and have a discussion on Harkin Mikulski Warner Cardin Kerry Salazar Hatch Murkowski Webb Carper Klobuchar Sanders it? Hutchison Murray Whitehouse Casey Kohl Schumer Mr. LAUTENBERG. I agree. Inouye Nelson (FL) Cochran Kyl Smith Mr. LOTT. I yield the floor. Coleman Landrieu Snowe The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen- NOT VOTING—9 Specter Collins Lautenberg ator from South Carolina. Biden Graham Sessions Conrad Leahy Stabenow Clinton McCain Vitter Corker Levin Stevens Mr. DEMINT. Mr. President, I thank Dodd Obama Wyden Cornyn Lieberman Tester the Senators. Craig Lincoln Thune AMENDMENT NO. 3467 The amendment (No. 3474) was re- Crapo Lott Voinovich jected. Dole Lugar Warner I would like to discuss amendment Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, I Domenici Martinez Webb No. 3467. Before I discuss the amend- Dorgan McCaskill Whitehouse ment specifically, I would like to talk move to reconsider the vote. Durbin McConnell Mr. LIEBERMAN. I move to lay that a little bit about rail passenger service NAYS—13 motion on the table. in America and Amtrak specifically. The motion to lay on the table was Allard Coburn Inhofe I think one of the best infrastructure Barrasso DeMint Shelby visions we could have as a country agreed to. Brownback Ensign Sununu today would be to create high-speed CLOTURE MOTION Bunning Enzi Chambliss Gregg passenger rail service that moves peo- The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under NOT VOTING—8 ple economically and efficiently the previous order, pursuant to rule around the country. The irony is, as Biden McCain Vitter XXII, the Chair lays before the Senate long as we continue to pour our Fed- the pending cloture motion, which the Clinton Obama Wyden Dodd Sessions eral resources into the Amtrak model, clerk will report. we will never get to that vision of an The legislative clerk read as follows: The PRESIDING OFFICER. On this vote, the yeas are 79, the nays are 13. efficient passenger rail service in this CLOTURE MOTION Three-fifths of the Senators duly cho- country. We, the undersigned Senators, in accord- sen and sworn having voted in the af- It is clear from years of working with ance with the provisions of rule XXII of the Amtrak and the model of using freight Standing Rules of the Senate, hereby move firmative, the motion is agreed to. Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, I rails and Government subsidies to sup- to bring to a close debate on Calendar No. port an Amtrak system, we will never 158, S. 294, AMTRAK Reauthorization. move to reconsider the vote and move Frank R. Lautenberg, Trent Lott, Joe to lay that motion on the table. have a world-class passenger rail serv- Lieberman, Benjamin L. Cardin, S. The motion to lay on the table was ice through the Amtrak model. So I Whitehouse, Robert Menendez, Daniel agreed to. hope we as a Congress, as a Senate, K. Inouye, Susan M. Collins, Mike Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, I particularly, can come to terms with Crapo, Larry E. Craig, John Warner, ask unanimous consent that the time the fact that if we continue to throw Byron L. Dorgan, Gordon H. Smith, during the recess period count money at Amtrak, we will never have Max Baucus, Bill Nelson, Robert P. efficient passenger rail service. Casey, Jr., Harry Reid. postcloture. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without Certainly, there are a couple of lines The PRESIDING OFFICER. By unan- objection, it is so ordered. of rail service of Amtrak, particularly imous consent, the mandatory quorum in the Northeast, that work well for a f call is waived. number of people. But the fact is, many The question is, Is it the sense of the RECESS Americans are contributing to the few Senate that debate on S. 294, a bill to The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under passengers who are using Amtrak reauthorize Amtrak, and for other pur- the previous order, the Senate stands today. Taxpayers all over the country poses, shall be brought to a close? The in recess until 2:15 p.m. are putting their money into these few yeas and nays are mandatory under the Thereupon, the Senate, at 12:32 p.m., lines that work, even though very few rule. The clerk will call the roll. recessed until 2:15 p.m. and reassem- Americans actually ever use these rail The assistant legislative clerk called bled when called to order by the Pre- services. the roll. siding Officer (Mr. SALAZAR). As we discuss this final bill, it is im- Mr. DURBIN. I announce that the Mr. LAUTENBERG. I suggest the ab- portant we remember that in the last Senator from Delaware (Mr. BIDEN), sence of a quorum. year the Federal Government gave Am- the Senator from New York (Mrs. CLIN- The PRESIDING OFFICER. The trak $1.3 billion in subsidies, even TON), the Senator from Connecticut clerk will call the roll. though they carry less than 1 percent (Mr. DODD), the Senator from Illinois The assistant legislative clerk pro- of the Nation’s intercity passengers. (Mr. OBAMA), and the Senator from Or- ceeded to call the roll. Amtrak is the most heavily sub- egon (Mr. WYDEN) are necessarily ab- Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, I ask unan- sidized mode of transportation in the sent. imous consent that the order for the country. In fact, every ticket people Mr. LOTT. The following Senators quorum call be rescinded. purchase from Amtrak has an average are necessarily absent: the Senator The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without subsidy of over $210 per passenger per from Arizona (Mr. MCCAIN), the Sen- objection, it is so ordered. 1,000 miles traveled. We even have ator from Alabama (Mr. SESSIONS), and The Senator from Mississippi. some lines where the subsidy reaches the Senator from Louisiana (Mr. f as high as $500. VITTER). My amendment does not change this. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there PASSENGER RAIL INVESTMENT But it tells America the truth about any other Senators in the Chamber de- AND IMPROVEMENT ACT OF the subsidies for each of these tickets siring to vote? 2007—Continued people buy. The yeas and nays resulted—yeas 79, Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, we are My amendment requires Amtrak to nays 13, as follows: working with the distinguished chair- put on every ticket for the line they VerDate Aug 31 2005 02:24 Oct 31, 2007 Jkt 069060 PO 00000 Frm 00011 Fmt 0624 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A30OC6.005 S30OCPT1 cnoel on PRODPC60 with SENATE_CN S13542 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — SENATE October 30, 2007 are using the amount of subsidy the them are in families not exceeding 200 bill, the one that got 69 votes in this taxpayers are putting into the cost of percent of poverty. And 200 percent of body, instead of having 5.5 million, we each of these tickets. By doing this, we poverty is about $40,000 a year for a would have 10 million children who will force Amtrak to do what all busi- family of four. We have only one State would be covered. nesses have to do, which is to track the above 300 percent of poverty, and there So I hope we can do that. But any- real cost of every product they sell. are maybe five or six States from 200 way, without belaboring the point, Right now, it is very difficult to de- percent to 300 percent of poverty. So what I am going to ask permission to termine actually how much Amtrak we have said there will be no waivers do is that we move off CHIP at what spends on each of its lines of service. above 300 percent of poverty. We have time it would occur naturally and take But by requiring they put the cost of changed along that regard. it up when we finish the farm bill. The the subsidy on every ticket, they will We have tightened down the language rest of this week we will be working on have to calculate the cost—which is as it relates to illegal children drawing something else. What that will be, I the revenue and the losses—for each benefits. Under the original bill we will certainly consult with the Repub- line in this country. passed, illegal children could not get lican leader. But right now, whatever I Every business should have to do it. the benefits. You had to be in the coun- do, unless I get consent from the Sen- Amtrak should as well. try for at least 5 years, with proper pa- ate—not only the Republicans but the It is the only way we can get a han- pers, and then you could, after having Senate—I would have to get consent to dle on actually how much we are been here 5 years.
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