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The individuals mentioned herein are sufficiently characterized. - j Characterizations of the Minutemen, Students For A Democratic Society SDS!, and the Black ?anther Farty EFF!, appear in the appendix attached hereto. 51 Gordon: Tonight we are going to have a lengthy discussion 5.. on the subject of extremism in_America. we have three representatives, one from the right wing, one from the left wing and one who is an expert on ' Ei extremism.is-first, Mr. Introduxéng Jame reed them who from has right earned to a left reputation_[QLEét '92 . for himself in the Detroit area as a dedicated right ___? wing extremist, he urges having firearms as insurance _..I_' against upcoming confrontations. He is National Secretary of the Patriotic Party, the party that s"' ¥ George Wallace disallowed last year, he is closely l_-'-_ {J 92 associated with the Minutemen, Mr. Freed's 9-1 major project now is his fight with the Internal - ». Revenue Service. He has not paid taxes for the E. past three years and I think their motto is resistance 5 to the end, as it is with th l ft wing. Our next - chusetts, gueston the an expert panelis on Gordqni agl extremism. of R55§§§fW§igh,_ Boston _a§§a=_M_L head of the ultra c nservative John Birch Society, ' has called Mr. Ha "a 'amily character promoting _ Comunism. Gu all, leader of the Communist Party i.='?'EvI'i ' F 92|.L .g:._--Q92 8.4! rt ., _,§; 2. I . "*1?-E . up /76»-iii g§gED§BF5 _ :§;i'_ [blT 7 *, - K , ., . ._ , . _ s . ._.-_.- :__ 7 __ -_ 777. t___-_ *7 _-_ -- 4 ' _-- __»- ;---v77~7'_ :-'~ .,_':_;:' -_% ' "' .-r;%w-' 4; III~ o 7 '--- -- -i | 92 , - . - . _o.'i- . -92 . Q Q 92 1 92 " lie: Lou Gordon Television Show of July l3, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, 92 f Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, , 92 1 '.. 7 92 James Freed and Gordon Hall .' '- 'I .'_.-. "in this country, says about our Mr. Hall, I know all about this character, Gordon Hall, this paid police agent, let me make it clear we are in no 4. way related either by blood or ideologically. The ' "! late George Lincoln Rockwell, Commander of the ,. --1 American Nazi Party, said about our guest the lowest vilest man I know, I can't wait to throw him in the gas chamber myself. And the late Malcom X said about Mr. Hall, he is nothing but a white 1! ._ mercenary. The se are pretty strong words coming from both sides. And our left wing extremist is Abby Hoffman, one of the leading symbols of the new radical left; He founded the Yippies and has ? been instrumental in the disruptions in Chicago last summer, during the Democratic convention. He has been arrested 40 times and faces a possible l0 year prison term for inciting riots in Chicago. His defiance and guerrila tactics are spelled out 3. in his new book 'Revolution For the Hell Of It which appears to be Mr. Hoffman'sphilosophy toward our society. Mr. Hoffman holds a Masters degree in Psychology from the University of California at Berkeley and will be remembered for his appear- ance before the House Unamerican Activities Committee last year with an American flag draped around his chest. Mr. Hall, let's begin with you if we may. what do you consider the dangers of entremism in this country? ' ' - a Hall Oh, I think probably, more than anything else, the _ capacity for violence. You take Mr. Freed's Minutemen, he may deny that he is a Minuteman, I don't know,we'll have to wait and see. But they're obviously a terrorist group and in the Patriotic Party. They are a white terrorist society in my judgment and I think it is pretty obvious from your own description of Mr. Hoffman the kind of thing that his group will do from time to time. Disrupt, use anti-democratic methods against an essentially democratic society, whatever, the faults may be of that society and so I think the main problem, the J 1:" >|,,-_f'_';,l main danger if there is any real serious danger 5.1.; 1.4 is the violence - obviously. . 1 - .7 :'~' -_. 5 I . E 1-: - 7 -.. .-.-. -..-: 7 - -7 - ~ - '7 '* -' . P=' -1 _ ___ ,_ , _7 ...._...... _ - . . ;'-"'1'! - ' 4-- 7T__ _..-- -,- -_ -.= .; _. ._7_7 _ i .._.;.,_,__..,_ ..__.7,,-1._-, ._ .. . ~-" . p . -_, * ' -.. 7-,». -. -7 ---,--' ",- - Q-at-~a*?w - 's t.-. .~'- 7 "-'-'------*,-1; -' 7" ?_;" §"*'. - -= - - ., 1.-.'=."'""7 . .--3- -'¬ .;. - --. ; 1- .,.--:--.a.13 --- _- . . . . - -.- -.3 .--.-- .111 ~. 92' . _ ' 15." F-9'3 : RB. Lou 8 Gordon Television Show of H i92_92 4; -' '92 -0 :.F-'92 .' .1" 92: 5-L. 1- . . -,-; July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, 1-... '. - .*-' Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, James Freed and Gordon Hall "Gordon : Do you see any danger of fascism resulting from Mr. Freed's efforts or Communism or revolution resulting from Mr. Hoffman's efforts. "Hall: No, not really. I think, I am not so sure that Mr.- s-. Hoffman s bag would be ommunism per se. I think -c that something else again, but if we take the left to mean in general terms, the kind of Marxism I think that that would be accurate. I don't think, however, that America is about to succumb to either extreme. I think that we are internally strong and I think that by and large Americans are reasonably well satisfied with society as it is. And I think that what changes will come about will continue to be brought about democratically through reforms and I don't think we are going to succumb to either side. I think that either side would like to see the middle collapse completely and I think both of them over- state the case. I think there is much wrong, but T55 there has always been much wrong with a free society. ,,q It is ohly societies where you don't read about the , >_ things that are wrong are the closed systems that ' A. Mr. Freed and others like him like so well. y "Gordon Mr. Freed, would you like to respond to that? Are you ass ciated with the Minutemen? .3; "Freed: Well, the Pat otic ty has always been associated =1? with the Minut In fact, it was founded by the 92- ss= same man,Rober Pu hi M |'rb . _ "Gordon : 92 Are you aware of the fact that Robert DePugh was 92/ finally arrested last night? "Freed: Well of course, y I am quite well aware of that. "Gordon How didyou about gait, didhe call you? I "Freed: Both Walt,Reuther and"E5eI ti-Defamation League 53? have bee after92him for a long time and they finally , _-..'__, es managed to negotiate his apprehension I suppose. "1-IL. 'n 1:-',*I1.'~"-'92 K-1 -3.. ' -iI.'_1'-1;- '>' 92 .,.. .-_ .-m _; Z _-4 ' |,.'> -r . . r -_ 5,7 I K up Uh h__ F A _ _LiAi»WiH r_;rA_::ii______-____ -B:::A__. _ ._ J____. _-______.___ - 4 - 92.I'92 ...-._s_ #0 -I. a;92 . ' r I . I . 92 4'' 4 1: I he ~ , _L_.I 1 *. - _: .5 .'1 *I='.- F! Lou Gordon Television Show of . -92 Re: 92 July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Eeaturing Abbott Howard Hoffman, 1 James Freed and Gordon Hall L1. "Gordon: Well, I understand that the FBI arrested him, not I Walter Reuther and the Anti-Defamation League. "Freed: Well "Gordon: And they arrested him under ' 2;". -92" "Freed: That's who controls the FBI. "Gordon: Reuther and the Anti-Defamation League control the FBI? I Freed: Yah, and the Federal Reserve System, they all work together on that. - "Gordon: Well, I just want to tell you and our viewers if they don'tknow it that Mr. DePugh was arrested last night on a warrant for conspiracy to rob banks in Redman, Washington, and he wanted to take the money to rob banks, that he would get from robbing banks to fight Comunism. _ "Freed: According tp who? * Gordon: According to the FBI report. "Freed: That's whatI mean. All right, . I33 "Gordon: Hr. Hoffman, '1 think it is time we give you a say, would you agree with what Mr. Hall has said about 5 what you represent? 'Bo££man; weli, iirst I went to of the show. Because supposed to be a nice say that I object to the format I think that somehow this is 2'! R 2.51% someone quiet rational show with Ll from the right, someone from the left, and - '-1.»-. *». someone t ,.,_, who represents the vast silent majority which I think is amiss of being the right and the L ; :1 left in this country and people are supposed to have my fellow American over here on the right go T ;_"_; after me and I.am supposed to go after him and Mr- - ' J ..-,:.~'_'~ -rs AL :'_. an " 1 1: .-l._.--.._. - - t _- 92 l ". . . E. V 1 ! . _' I: ~._ Re! Lou Gordon Television Show of ,_-_,_. July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, 1!v Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, q. James Freed and Gordon Hall "Hall is supposed to emerge triumphantly as the K? expert on extremism in this country. So I object to that format and I wouldn't have come on except for the fact that this show paid my fare out here hence contributing to the conspiracy because I was really here to attend the revolutionary underground newspaper conference in Ann Arbor. "Gordon: What kind of a format would you like us to have for you Mr. Hoffman? . - Hoffman Well, I think we ought to like take over the show and run it. But aside from that I would like to protest Gordon: You wouldn't expect me to let you take over the show now would you Mr. Hoffman? - "Q Hoffman Well, not without some resistance and violence which of course Mr. Hall would, would put down. All right, now I represent, I would like to comment on what you said about violence. Gordon: r I All right, all right. "Hoffman: Because you see, because you see the main, he jinn focused on the problem of it, the biggest threat A92,|_ to our society was extremism, the danger of extremism, violence coming up from extremism. When we look at the reality of American life the chief perpetuator of violence is the military industrial E complex, the government and the police force that represents that government. That is where violence is, and it is very well indeed to go and tell people that your against violence but I think that speech ought to be directed to the military forces in Vietnam and to the police departments around this 5!! country and to the police that were in Chicago and - h- -he Mayor Daley, and I think it is a blurring of the :1-as.-. reality of the situation. He is very concerned _,,- !:f ;,-.'1 :=".'.¥ with the constitutional issues and I am involved in , ,4. a trial that our lawyers say represents the most 9 1' 1 I . C a U . I I -5.- Re: x Lou Gordon Television Show of 4-. I July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, I924-92q.I-one-'l92I92|-I I-I.I92I-raIil§ -1 J'BOL92-ll-July I1-vuuyu l.u..0IIuL92-A l,J92J&LlllGl.il| James Freed and Gordon Hall . "complex constitutional case in the country's history. I mean anti-war activists charged with conspiracy to incite riots. The Justice Department has admitted tapping our phones in violation of the Supreme Court ruling. Is there no outcry from the soicalled liberals in the country, Mr. Hall doesnft even touch on it and that is what is going _-.- on in this country. One more point illegible! Hall: 'I didn't like his speech, I didn't like his speech. I simply answered a question that was asked by Mr. Gordon here;i He asked me what I felt was the greatest danger about it _ - !lt_I»92l'- tn.--. IIUL Lil-l ll 0, Yeah, but you'see ' :1 Already setting up the ground rules,what are the o . chief causes of the problems in American society and . I think that is basically true What what * "He simply asked me what I thought the greatest danger from the extremist thrust was and I said in the violence and you began by saying that you would like to take over ' =21V-4 ' A "Hoffman: But we have to analyze, we have to _ g x ; "Freed: Gan I get in on this for a minute, Mr. Hall, you are billed as an expert." How did you attain this H, position, an expert, what are your qualifications, 1-.-I -5;. can we see your identification card qualifying you as an expert. and who pays you as an expert? - 3-, .1. "Gordon: Well, Mr. Freed, I have to interrupt here, we have I to take a commercial break anyway, but suffice to v say that I invited you here as an expert on the right Mr. Hoffman as an expert on the left and Mr. Hall - here as an expert on extremism for this program ' |.*rn and use it to debate your qualifications or his. 5%? we willcome right back and address ourselves to the issues. pm 2'- _ . :, 1; . 5 . -_' ..,. n I C - 0 ~-92_'I'- .- .- . --.__.._. -_ ~_ . ., .l_.._.. . ,.»- _,.-.,._.-r--...;.-.-z _.;:.,-;'.92,..,=-.- _, ._____ _, ____,__ _- -,,- __ . 7- - .-,, ...... ~*,_.,-5,-,,_=§¥-. , L- . .e_ _ _ ;,?..T 1"'_< .7-.- j'f"-,..»1-|¢-»=_s.=,..1-*_§-fa_:.;.-1. -....---._ ll- - eT_: qr;-f_'-Iw1§ :_<>15-_§j'92_'E_ . .. l3,.1:~' -wy:'- . ~- - ;5 '~1 - - W r" ~ 1 -.re - '-.. -5 ' '.. . - V-:.-__.--= --.' -- ~-_.'----.-..»< v-. ."92- r ;v=='*-er.» .- 92 I . » fr ______, _, A} _ -»-,-_v,.¢»_;_~.g..-- -P ;v--- - »-»-----=-~- --7;; 7 ___; e.__- . 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Q "Freed: Well, I didn'tmean to put you on the defensive that ...'. --T way - - -. "Hoffman: Oh, you didn't. - But I am glad to know that you have answered Freed 3. 3 properly. . _ _ - . ._5¢ "Gordon: I would like to point out the one thing that seems _ _ to me you both have in common. Mr. Freed, I was ,5 - reading some of your literature today - p-1 -ii 3. I I:92I-A-arm! I L ¢¢92|lOQ How, just before you say we have in common, why ,0 ? not just refer to my literature. Let the public decide whether we have something in common or not. 'Gordon& Your literature talks about total resistance. Does it not? r - S "Freed: That is what it talks about. , e4.-, *Gordon: And Mr. Eoffman, that's the li . is it not? Total Resistance? _ .---'4; '% I ; '| F " ' '92- 4» I- l .»; '--| {fl Re: Lou Gordon Television Show of i 1 July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, - ./: Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, 1 I , James Freed and Gordon Hall HI. Gordon: Oh, you don't usetotal resistance, what do you use, total destruction? "Total reparation. "Gordon: Total revolution. Hoffman That is what we use. "Gordon: Now, Mr. Hall. - ' "Freed: You see what I mean, Mr. Gordon? You see you try tened toit put words out in you myfound mouth, out butthat then his after-weposition straigh is - different than mine. . "Gordon: How do you think his position is different, what do you think of him? . . "Freed: Q11. II92-J--I-f T A1'1:-urncan-own-» Junldu in:-:+ rm:>-l- nun-5 pony. +1m= n-ni-'|n1'n::n ¥92.-can-nu-.92-unu-Ala:|'!- wean-no 'l-1-|'l.l: gm Pwaaqtj n it wouldn't be fair to draw any conclusions about t B gentleman. y ' ?3 "Gordon: What do you think of what he stands for, I am sure *5 you are familiar "Freed: I don't know, I haven't found out yet. *l§:& Vnn haua nnu-|=r 192|:n:|'r-H nF I- hp Vimninsa nn 1-he *1 .._ __, s; "Gordon: Q-92I92n can-l.'92¢JQ92a192-Iq- non-nu-no-92p92-1; wuow nntru-92-rw 1|-sown @--I-I :3 J "Freed: Oh yeah , 1| F . "Gordon: What do you think of the Yippies? _', %= Freed: Well, I don'tthink much of the Yihpies, but I don't know, you didn't ask me about that, you asked 7 me what - "I don't either ' Gordon: You don'tthink much of the Yippies either? J 1+ ,,_. __.4_. -.I4-: - ~ '2 -_ 1-, ______. .. , _- ' ' . 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It was a slogan, Yippie' with an exclama- ...; tion point. There is no organization. It might be an expression of a certain kind of life style that is ,1 growing out around underground newspapers, drugs, r, rock and roll, anti-war people, young people in general, a certain kind of youth culture. But there_ are no Yippies. - MI. I 1 Q. Gordon: "Hall: I agree by the way with that, that the Youth International Party is largely a creation of the press. Do you, are you, let me interrupt just a moment. Go ahead *7 "Hall;' no you object when I refer to you as an exhibitionist? h 3% Are you offended by that? F "Hoffman Well, I, I don't particularly care about any words E you use to describe me because I don'tconsider you .-.| a source of authority and I don't relate to you in order to run my life. So you can call.me anything you want. II-I21154:14.10 1 0 Hell, at isn't really what I asked you,wel?, let *-. me put it another way. would you, would you ever stop to consider yourself as one who is primarily an exhibitionist and sort of given to, You know, eccentric behavior, almost for the purpose ofleing eccentric because I have seen you in a number of different guises over the years and they seem always geared to kind of the vast public display of your- self to get attention, that is why I asked you the ' animal» -I an ea Hoffman 921uI=§ I-J.92IlJo I would use_any technique that I thought was proper, v¢1'.f.¥ in order to disrupt what appears to be a democra- tically run process in this country. '92.' -'2 p ti L _' - 9 - sfs ":13 92 S ' -U * X1 Re: Lou Gordon Television Show of July l3, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, James Freud and Gordon Hall - I "Gordon: Mr. Hall, Mr. Hoffman makes a point that I don't J think initially that you responded to. He says the real danger in this country is from the military industrial complex that he talks about and as one who is pretty much concerned about the anti-ballistic missile and the Vietnamese war, and in those categories I agree with Mr. Hoffman, probably the only things I agree with him on. Isn'tthis the real danger, perhaps a greater danger than the small minority A that Mr. Hoffman represents or Mr. Freed represents? 3. *2 "Hall: Oh surely, there may be many larger dangers and I -I did not respond to your first question by szggesting that I believe that left-right extremism in the country is the primary danger. I think for example ' that organized crime is more dangerous than political extremism. It just so happens that I am a student in one area and I feel that my competence to talk about the Minutemen or the Students for a Democratic Society, or any of the other groups is where I should remain and I would not, for example, be qualified to discuss the missile crisis, simply because I don't feel I that I know that much about it. Although I have feelings that I would share with you on that- "Gordon: Well, I don't think it is the missile crisis we are - talking about, we are talking about the fact that thousands of men leave the Pentagon, go into industry yhich supplies the government through the Pentagon, and, for example, it seems to me that Senator Fulbright referred last week to a group that was running an ad on behalf of the anti-ballistic missile system most of whose members are contractors iorking who would be benefiting from the system. 16 "Hall: a 'Yes, yes, but again it, this is an area that I don't r ' happen to specialize in and I don'tknow that much kl about it, therefore, I dont feel all that qualified t _,_= to talk about it other than having feelings as an :a.4&3» , - American about it. i_ ' . .1; . _. . oNI L -53. *;:i§ '- 10- - . 7 7 . ,. . . . . 92 . - __ ..._, 1 , .._ ,.,_ -_,__._,,_,-;.,.;-..;-9;7.,-.,;-,...-»,..,-,,.,_-,,.._-..__,1,-.- - - . t ;- r_ . 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"I mean it seems to me that one can make studies about all kinds of things, one would not expect somebody who deals in heart disease to necessarily know all about cancer, micro-organisms, etc. "I think. when you asked him about what kind of a danger do we represent the word danger you know has a certain kind of connotation. And we have to say danger to what? And Ithink, I think we all three of us in a sense represent a danger but that danger has to be defined. Now, I would say that these two gentlemen, and you in fact represent a danger. You represent you symbolize the people in , . authority and you act as their tool, and I don't represent a danger to black people in this country, I don'trepresent a danger to long haired young 1? people in this country, I represent a danger to the government and the people that I am with represent a danger to this government, that is why yesterday ' at this radical underground media conference it was necessary for those cops to come in and surround us =2 with shotguns even though we were just there talking about putting out our newspaper. Something about "S free speech. Now also there is a newspaper here in 4 Detroit, an underground newspaper, the South End, that got closed down. That the administration at .. _ ' J Wayne State said the other day they are not going to put out this paper. we don'tlike it and the kids like want it, and like it, and they are taking it and making it a real underground newspaper, they are 1 hiding the machines and they are putting them out and 1-:: .I to those people and to the people that read that . .-K - newspaper I am no danger, but these people are. Because these people have the power and I don't, and I don't 0 "Gordon: But I mean you represent a danger "Hoffman: _Maybe Mr. De Pugh got locked up for a charge of e conspiracy to rob banks, you know, or something like id " that and there are a couple o£ right wingers that . 1 A ..',', r 1- I I _ __,____ _ ,, _ D ______._ __ --_. i -.__..-. J _ ,. - . ' '1 _ __ f rr . ...=_._ ,. 7,, __ ...-__- _:_" :._. '..- ' "-"'-,.; - -. '-_-..92-;-'. _ _,,. 92_f,.'.-. -i:92'_.=" -'., - _ ."E4'~-_'- _ i ., i .. I- p_ :5 pa}; .: 1 I - 92 - 92 . ~- ts - .u ' _ D 0 I Q I Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Z Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, ='./Q James Freed and Gordon Hall -. .." - ._. I If . _.:,-. "are in trouble with the government are being repressed or facing oppression but I don't know about it, but people on my side of the fence are really 1 getting it right and left like the Black Panther Party. It is an attempt on the part of the govern- s ment to wipe them out. There is a part on young radicals to wipe us. They are followed by the FBI all the time. -w "Gordon: You are watched, followed by two FBI Agents everywhere El-*1 you go. Yes! Do you think you were followed here' 7| by two FBI Agents? _ - "/3 ..| "Hoffman Well, I don't know if I was like followed here or to Detroit, but I have to report all the time on my - 1 travels to Us. District Attorney, the FBI part of the evidence in the trial against us ~-;: .4: "Gordon: But that is true of anyone that is on bond and leaves the jurisdiction of that court is it not? "Hoffman No, no. it is not entirely true, no no sorry that is not true. "In fact, you see, one of us, one of our Dave Delenger is currently in Paris or on his way to North Vietnam, I haven't seenthe papers in the last few 1 days,to negotiate the release of three fliers, now he-is prevented from like traveling outside the #4 country, but the goyernment, the State Department just so happens to decide arbitrarily that this is important to get thee fliers out so it makes a little F1! deal. It is all a question of deals, you see, law, law is a hoax. Law and order is like a hoax issue -,-.- because that is not what we said V Q! I have been arrested ten times since Chicago. I have forty arrests and but three convictions» ,4... "Gordon: Are you glad of that? H - P-I up iilllegiblel i _ 5% 0. 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"Hoffman Because your acting like a maniac. Oh come on. I've been beaten in police stations -_ I-.n while I've been handcuffed. You see, your just like, oh acting like a maniac, oh yeah. So we ought to "Gordon: like beat em up and shoot em, what do we do with '5 maniacs. I doubt very seriously whether you have ever been followed by any FBI Agents. This, this sort of thing goes on all the time, the John Birch Society in Hew "Hoffman England talks about their lines being tapped, your ....._ worried about the lines of the Minutemen being tapped E5 Are you aware that the Justice Department has mar Gordon: admitted tapping our phones? Mr. Freed, are you aware of that" _ I .._ . ,-. 1 - ., 51913 ._ _ :!'.'-K .-... 3', Ho, your particular phones, no, they have admitted uira'I1L& ~l-an: W3 illin &¬Ll'92InY'"|-:l'iI'92 Efill iZl?92IEname»: inn!-92T ilk 1 ' , _ . Jr ; ._ - _ ' R1 _ N .'rr92,_92_92 . .:';:'- pt} 1 .0 - ' 1 M1 _ 1 ",'-. A ' I» _1._| Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of T--'-_ July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, 1-1.1.- Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, James Freed and Gordon Hall oiimana Hell, your inaccurate. " Gordon: But, well I'msorry but, I haven't heard of it. The ruling in the case comes up Tuesday, July l5, In the Federal District Court in Chicago. Let me ask you a direct and simple question. In all of these arrests you have, you have never done anything to to to warrant being arrested, you've never violated any of the laws, whether you agree or disagree with them is beside the point, but you are absolutely an innocent babe in the woods and you'vebeen picked up and manhandled and beaten. Hoffman: I don't, I don't consider it, I don't consider that I've been an innoeent babe in the woods in aeeordanee to your standards. But you see, for example, you mentioned my appearance there wearing an American flag shirt. Now I was arrested for that and it is a charge of defacing and defiling the flag for which 31 I was given 30-day sentence. Now there've been E"/-1' thirty people arrested under that law, they've all been hippies. Yet that shirt was bought commercially 5.1 it is a mod fashion, it is in a number of mod maga~ § zines, there is a mini skirt Betsy Ross flag thing, _J I've seenPhyllis Diller on TV you know with that kind of thing, but those people aren't arrested for 5.3 that. Its people that the government wants to get : 1-,- rid of. The same as like potiérrests. There are 250,000 narcotics arrestsu who gets busted for pot. Gordon: We'll be right back. s 'Mr. Freed complained during the break that he wasn't getting enough time and I think he is right. 'Freed: I registered a protest. ' _ "Gordon: Registered a protest accepted, granted. Mr. Freed, aei we'll devote a few minutes to you, ah -13%-'1"Freed: Thank you.- I .. "-- _ T- -I:-3-.'9"Gordon: Are you, are you affiliated with the Minutemen or not? ~. r l Hg. _ '_ - l4'- _ _ _'. 92 ¬ ' i 92 . -t_--_-- -.._,_,,_A,_,___of if ll, fl _,, - - -'_ ,,, W_.._-~- . I - _ _ -'~ -, - -_--- .--__...-.---...... -¢.-n.-.-...... -..-_-.. -1-g _ I a 92' - L .0 ' ? Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of f July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, James Freed and Gordon Hall -1 ,1 I fFreed: Well. in what way Mr. Gordon? _ Gordon: Well, come on now, in what way. You know how to answer questions when they are asked you. Do you have any affiliation with the Minutemen. 3% .4.-vi "Freed: Then I'll answer it this way. Mr. Hoffman has had ten or fifteen minutes to explain his position. 1 Some years ago I migrated from.Canada to the United States and became a citizen of this country and I In had to take an oath here in Detroit before Federal Judge Ralph Freeman, and that oath of allegiance. -1 said that I had to swear to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemie foreign and domestic. Now based on that I will work 5 with any individual or group who has the same policy "+'-'1 Now the judge at the time didn't qualify. 0 ,1 "Gordon: Are you working with the Minutemen? "Freed: Ihe judge at the time didn't " "Gordon: don't yourespond to my questions instead of -Q Why making a speech. Mr. Hoffman responded to my questi I don't know, he made a speech, But goahegd. On- "Freed: rhe judge at the time, that's what I thought. The :'-'. 1 judge at the time, Judge Ralph Freeman, did not if qualify this oath of allegiance in any way, he just 1; said do it. So, as a result that is what I fully intend to do, to uphold and defend the Constitution. _ Gordon: Well, are you affiliated with the Minutemen? Freed: Yes HM1 1 Gordon: Well, all right, glad to hear that, now has Mr. e DePugh been in touch with you since last night to try to get you to raise bond for him? .-'we Freed: How you know better than that. ~ Gordon: Nell, the last time you were on this program you indicated to me that you were in touch with Mr. DePugh while . Li 3 . - u 92J . g, I 92 f Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, k Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, :1 iames Freed and Gordon Hall . § "Freed: Well what did I say that I indicated that I was u touch with Gordon: Well you said you talked to him as my recollection &. occurs to me.. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? ' -- u -- 1 92 .1 . I . ..- _ In Freed: rou netter cnecx tne statements Mr. Gordon. Gordon: well, I'm asking you. Are you, have you been in touch with DePugh? » Freed: You better check the tape because I made no comments III of that nature at all. _ - "Gordon: . ,__ Have you been in touch with Mr. DePugh lately? "Freed: NO. Gordon: Haveyou heard from him since he was arrested last night. "Freed: NO. ' I "Gordon: will you do anything to help him raise bond if he gets in touch with you? _ "Freed: The story is right now that certain people in this country have already contacted an attorney who will, | 7.. who is looking into the matter if, indeed, it is the 1 truth that he has been arrested. ._' 1,4 "Gordon: well you don't thinkw that the news reports are true A "Freed: Well, I question any news report. _ Gordon: Oh, you do? - >1 "Freed: Yeah. _ -i. Gordon: You don't trust anybody or anything? - rs "Freed: Well, I say I question, I didn't say trust. 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'w' as: Lou Gordon Television Show of i July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, K Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, Q James Freed and Gordon Hall. "Gordon Oh, you've been in jail too? I understand that you made the remark that I was no "%reed: different than the Mafia. So, I mean I have to question anything that the news media says including "Gordon Why told you that I said that Mr. Freed? . I "Freed: Well, my friends. Obviously I didn't hear it because I couldn't. ' " E "Gordon: Well you "Freed: But I was told that you made some such remark. I "Gordon Why were you in jail? J "Freed; well, because my, you see, again ah "Gordon No, I Just asked you why A Freed: Well, I'm gone to.tell you but I'm going to answer my way, not your way. Again Judge Ralph Freeman 3 told me that I must uphold and defend the Constitu- tion of the United States so when I did this in relation to a certain gun that I had bought then 5. I was arrested and the warrant for my arrest was .-. signed by Judge Ralph Freeman and he threw me in -:§ jail so I don't know why I was in jail, you will have to ask the judge because I was doing exactly as he 1 had told me. ' ' .7 - J "Gordon It seems to me you were in jail because you wouldn't register that gun. Breed: Well, I was standing up for, I was defending the Constitution. - "Gordon Right, and you contended that-you didn't have to 2. t register the gun. __ J ' "Freed: That's right. ' §I fr ::'.'»? L I. t .-.c_' -11.- _-1 ___ _ _ _v§f_?1A -_~_ ;.'.". ' - _-Q ' V 41A I I ;1:' ._. ..'I l' . . J]: _,j 1 .- H - ------~-- - -- .-'- -' L :' - 1-! '92-"_ -:g l_V - - I-7;; rg?-yr-v -_§;'?:"~_*_', _' ' '' '_' "' -V-r -- '- * - ' - - 7" - . -. -' . "V -- - , ' V _ . .3 I -' '..' "-'1. -' _. ""' ' . _.. 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"F: I agree with him on that point. I "Gordon: Well, so we do find something that you fellows agree on. Yo should have guns and not be permitted "7: But the question of his aligning with groups that ' support the Constitution is a little bit misleading I thought because everybody like, that's like sort of claiming God is on your side in a way. Hell I, I ' o 5'1 "?: :1 1 "The Bible says your justified I don't think at all -- -<. "well, I don't consider Lots of groups have claimed - - I dodt consider Judge Freeman as God. He ordered me to do this. I am under Federal court orders to *3 do it. . J ' -F ;'-' "Gordon: _ 3% MI» FIGECI P "Freed: That's all I can say. Y "Gordon: Ion told me before the program began that you haven't paid your income tax in three years. QEQ "Freed: That's right. - _ I. ___ é Gordon wny not: s i. :2 "Freed: * The same answer. I am under Federal Court Order 3!-" .f¢-'--=. .*:,-~:- I >".92; "Gordon" You haven't paid in how many years? 1".- A15 "Freed: Oh, lots of years. ~- 92 0 u ¢ 0 I - 92-Q V Q .- l J I -| I .-. Il- Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of I July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, * James Freed, Gordon Ha1l_ - "I am under Federal Court order to uphold and defend 5_ . the Constitution of the United States and the Federal Income Tax violates the Constitution 26 separate times. So therefore I can't in all honesty support that program. _ . "Gordon: Are you a lawyer? _ 7' ._.-» ?: I agree with a lot of his methods, but not his goals. a "Hall: It is interesting the way you interpret the 1 Constitution so freely. y ' "Freed: "Wait a minute, I haven't interpreted the Constitu- é: tion at all Mr. Hall. " Hal1:. Well, you said that the income tax law violated the 20, violated the Constitution you said 26 times? "Freed: That'sright but I haven'tinterpreted anything "Hall: Well that's kind of interpreting ll?: However, the very fact that you haye- to use the re-. word interpretation that's misleading to the people ?- =_ .-. -q _'? out there because it is that kind of nonsense you mi - see "?: After all you are the expert ?L? "Yeah, your the expert. - -2?-'. "I: I m not an expert on the 1eft,I want to disavow _ . being an expert on the left. - '1 Gordon: What do you consider yourself, Mr. Hoffman, I 1?- understand that you believe in comunal life} that you believe in sharing your women, sharing your dope, 5? is that correct? _ ~ I-_-<1 -¢ hr!-.-. @ "Hoffman Money, take money essentially ;_ .*£"'-g "92. . r. _ 0 :.f- *3: ;~;__.1-.:.-..-.-_ v92-_' , . . . _ _. _ _ __ , _ . .. ; _.1_ - . - .- 3... 1?,r;,_..'1-:_!."1_;;EY7 I "92'_ : §i:;" .;;Eu." _V --_ -_ . ' '92 '-~¢ ' - xa I I Q Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of - r June 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, 92 ". - . H Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, -'-. James Freed, Gordon Hall . .',_. "Gordon: Hoffman: Do you take dope? Do you take dope? "Gordon: Do I take it where? I Well, I mean,do you shoot yourself in the arm, do "Hoffman: you smoke marijuana? L Well, I shoot a lot of things,_Maple syrup comes up- from New England. I drink Coke which is a dope. 1- v-.-I I just gave up ciggarets four weeks ago I'm mighty "Gordon: proud ofvthat. F3 "Hoffman: well, I'm Proud of you for that too. I" 2 But I smoke marijuana every chance I get, I take LSD and love it, I've got chromcsone damage and I'm "Gordon: grooving on it. _ . _. Maybe that'swhat's wrongwith you, you've got FF! "Hoffman: chromosone damage. . ._: b . I'm bad. Dope, is dope bad? Don't youtake dope? See, you must be able to take dope, but because of 5-- your position there, because of your affiliation 92_;~ with the station, you'd have to lie about that. _ ._;l-4 You know that. That's a fact. Like a lot of people if reg. - on your staff probably take dope. Like I know a lot of people in mass media, Life Magazine. you --1 know CBS, NBC, the National networks, people that -92 are taking dope all the time. Everybody takes dope ,- in this business. _ . 5-: L "Gordon: Mr. Hoffman,I want to tell you _ "There is nothing revolutionary about taking dape. I do not take dope because I get my kicks out of listening and watching people like you. "Hoffman: Nell I do too. I get my kicks out of watching and listening to people like-me. I'm havinga good time on color television, that's the hell of it. L '10 1 . -.: - ..'- .<- '.'.::#§ 1. ; .1-"| 1%; -20- .. ~~ " H-" . ._ at ';_ ..' . ' . _ . . . I ' - - . _ -I : ._..-I-I- Aline:-In-nu - . -._ _ __ -- -- _-. __.._. -e - _ ....,,.,,.~<:.1~-~-r,-_;.;,92._;-,, I ;_,. ,.- . .--,- .. - - "71"-" __ _,, .1 92__ .. 4-Jr -f -w K~'92. ,l ,9292,e92-.,,. -- :-7 ' . . VI, i IIU . I I 5- Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of ¢_ July 13, 1969, Detroit,'Michigan, §§§ Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, James Freed and Gordon Hall -? =- .r. 1 .-. ..= * 1"_.' .3 , '-1 Q15 "Gordon: But you have to have to take these artificial E . ' stimulants to do something for you. =- "Hoffman: Oh no, that's not, that's like saying I have to go H to the moviesyou knowto, ah, I I need the movies, ' I'm addicted to the movies. Its not true, I like the movies and I like dope, and I like sex and I 5,} like sharing my money and I like making revolution =i_ and I like attacking this government and I like .* fighting for what I consider to be justice, I like ;;'*q 0 I, "Gordon: How old are you Mr. Hoffman. I mI old enough. - "Gordon: Well, how old are you? =.. "Hoffman: I'm 32years old. H3, 92--1 ' "Gordon: Have you ever been married? Hoffman: I'm married now, yes. I was married in Central HP? - Park ah to like a woman, I don't know if its like 92 . L 92 I I . 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I don'tthink its relevant. y "Gordon: We have to take time out, we'll be right back. i i "Gordon: we're onnow. Mr. Hoffman moves his chair away .1M4..55; ., and I, we are going to move it back and he said he L'._T;.» '-'77 - F doesn't want to sit that close to Mr. Hall, he I: v L-'1- '.'.5 'I_ doesn't take a bath. Gentlemen, we've had a lot $- of fun here but I don'tthink we'vejoined the issue, and | ' r . _ '_ L. ?: Well, is this show really to like join the issue. W Gordon: Yes. _ ~ " -:~_ . "7'. 92-' ' -U t . Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Featuring Abbott H ward Hoffman, James Freed and Gordon Hall I, i I"'....¢ ' -.'._ _;._.,. "he puts yg 20 hours == "I've got newsin like for you 20 hours -a night,- I_ put in like 3% show anda nightthis use and weire ansupposed as educational meeting. to come on this . see that, they showed the news see from gj5% "Baloney, youeneu ought toto nave been read my rrombook, that's Fort not what TV is about.Fort Belvoir, In fact Virginia, in New all York there is like one TV station where there are like shows did you like Vietnam 1; OnlyI In it napI P Q 1 92 92 Q -1 1 J i< Georgia, or Beivoir, 5 WPIX. __-0 thepictures, 5% "Hall: Yes, did.I You know, they changed all '- think _ TV is about that. I that. I don 1; "GORDON: and wierd. Mr. Hall, be quiet for just Now wait, just a minute. Its supposed to be funny - Hall: - And I don't mindbecause you are paying a minute. "Gordon: That's right, and I don't mindeither. his way here. ;, "Hall: If you want to spend the money that way 1- with me. ; . that's Ok "Gordon: Mr. Hall, would you please be quiet. %% ' "Hall: I think - - I amwasting -my time. £5 . we "My difficulty is simply trying to relate to use n . AL. one of his pet phrases to a non-existent party led I113- by an exhibitionist. I, you see I didn't understand *~ that we were supposed to discuss the Yippie group, ' because I agree with you that they don't existand I pay no attention to them. I was concerned with , k another matter and another group. .;i I think these two fellows are really hogging the "e - show because they are afraid to talk about my issues _ h - and really discuss them. ; 4 5;-u "T * i ;r -23- I I . . _ kg , _ j I 0 ' Re: 1 .--r .. J -,. _ 15 1! I 1'.-' .1; Lou Gordon Television Show Of July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, - James Freed and Gordon Hall "Hoffman: Your issues! '_ "Hoffman: so that'swhy. they are, they have I think Freed: If I can get my pay 1'11go home. And 1'11 let you have the whole show." To monopolize the whole show because they are afraid to cut me loose. - That's what it is. . "Gordon: Ok, we'll cut you loose in just a minute Mr. Freed. 3..- Anybody who thinks that Walter Reuther is a Communist, '5 is controlling the FBI is very difficult to discuss issues with. And the_Anti-Defamation League, I want you to . 5?: Ain't you supposedto be a fascist, can'tJump you o in and like really sock it away there? 53 " You ain'ta good fascist, I'll tell yo that. D . ?.= '= ! 1. ; "?: Who are you calling a fascist? You consider this cat a fascist? Huh? . ' "?: " I never heard of it until he got on this show. "?: He isn't even on .1. "?: ' He isn't even on. What kind of fascist? ,-7 Y: Ealoney. _ . . I "?: pi-0 The government is a fascist government, the cops are_ fascists, they are the one with all the guns. "Gordon: Mr. Hoffman, what would - - :-¢-" t" "?: He's a nice guy. - =!!'¥l_ 1"-'2R '2: who ' . x '7:_ Like you, that guy right there" "<':.-1" :"7: U He's not a fascist. .92__,- -24... " ,._.__92 I 92 U ______ __ F _ __ i __,, i _' i, 1:- i___ l_____ .-. _l____e~e -~~-:1.-.-~e i: -....._s---... 92 - - - - . , ' I Q -1 Cit y 0 Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of - July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, I. Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, i} 'James Freed and Gordon Hall i "1: You better get your pointer over here,he might be pointing at me. ' "He might be a fascist sympathizer. "Gordon: You think he may be a fascist sympathizer? "Well maybe he might support that kind of totalatarian =1 state. - - "He might, you know? "Gordonz, Would.you like a totalatarian state? .'c .-u "Freed: h Are we on the air Mr. ,- '-" "GordonE Yes, we're on the air. l 5i_ "Freed: I never know because someone says comercial and then we quit. would I like a totalatarian state? - u Gordon: Yes. r Freed: No, I want a constitutional state. I want a con- stitutional republic. the constitution interpreted - as written, as it was meant to be, and to go by the organic laws of the United States. That's all I want, and yet for some strange reason we have a ¢ court system now that no longer considers the %$' Constitution, Federal Judges who will not, who are _ actually sitting in contempt of Constitution, Judge - Lawrence Gubow is an example how he framed Reno i=';:;.*-<,_;" Veroni of Southfield, Michigan, and sent him down 3?! . to a mental institution. - " Gordon : Now wait, wait, wait just a minute, . I; "Freed: chnd yet, and yet before he went Mr. Veroni had a - u--.1 92 _92 1"-. 9;. i 7' r In .51 - . .- -_ 33 -, _I 1 ,__.. ..._ _ e-- __:....._7 7-Q- -7_~= -. _ 7_ 7-_ |_u. 92_--1: 777 --1 - -'-f ~_ --'~*':* ~ |-'_;_--4.- ._. .- = 1- Q :-T »o - 70 ' 1'- Re: Lou Gadon Television Show Of - July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, X Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, as ' James Freed and Gordon Ha11_ 3% "Freed: That's not a slanderous statement. -p "Aordon You've madeit your, you've madeit your, you've stated your position and we'veheard it. Well i "Freed: "Gordon What you would like to see happen to this country. - 1. Now Hr. Hoffman, I'd like to know what you'd like _, . see happenu - - _ - "?: What is slander by the way? - _ "Gordon Well, we'lltalk about that after the show. ?:_ H Is that like an insult, is that an insult? "Freed: Am I off the show now? 7 ¥ "Gordon _No you are not off the show. "Freed: Have I been censored? B F -c. :1 r "'=<'--,1 ,|.'1__ -=1: I _ "If I call Richard Nixon a pig ' 21'! ens "Gordon will you have enough sense to be quiet. 5. -.1: ?: ' And he's been talking ever sinée we started that Sheriff Harvey, if I call him a pig ;*.; Mr. . - ' ~ _bu "Gordon ' r 1 . . i V a iv A .» J Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of ll July l3, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, _ I 4 VFeaturing Abbott Howard Hoffman, '.' .'. James Freed and Gordon Hall F5 4 "Gordon: Mr. Freed, I, I ask you "Freed: Judge Lawrence Gubow 54 "Gordon: I asked you not to mention those names in a slanderous context. u . Freed: Ok, I won't say it in a slanderous context. Gordon: Now you just be quiet. "Freed: I just want_to explain Veroni, that's all. _ I-. K. . "Gordon: Now we've heard enough of you and what you represent. "Freed: Then I'm off the show? Gordon: Yes, your off the show. "Freedé OK Gordon: Now, Mr. Hoffman " "Hoffman: What's the judge's name, Judge Gubow? "Gordon: Mr. Hoffman "Hoffman: He's a pig Gordon: Will you w "Hoffman: I've heard of slander too. What did you throq him off the show for? That judge probably is a pig. -vi I've just been censored by Mr. Gordon. "Gordon: We'll be back in Just a moment. "Gordon: As you can see our two representatives of the extreme left and right have been dismissed. We still have J fr ' 'Mr. Hall. Hr. Hall, is this an example of the way that these people try to.disrupt things? f- -1'3 Hall: - Oh, I suppose it is. I think more than that it is 1'--.'»_.;- an example of how difficult it is to have any serious 1. .3 _ O:- 1 . 1 i - _ , .¥_ I .'.'.-1,; _..___ ._-_-' - ,__ ~ .. _ ,_ V ., .. - V . _. ... , . 92 - _ . . v . , »- - __ 92. - - . - . -. .. .,_. , , . _ _ . . . . ,1 V--V -.:._. _ . V 92 -, . 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July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, v Featuring Abbott Howard hoffman, . n- - James Freed and Gordon Hall - ,}_. dialogue with a man whose leader has just been _f1 picked up by responsible Federal Agents liké the FBI on a bank robbery charge, which is pretty clear and another man who sat here and off the air was calling a judge in your town here a pig who he had never I- heard of and he was absolutely certain he was a fascist pig. It is difficult to really come to Q grips, however, with, you know, with either side in that context: however, there is a larger picture of the far left and the far right. It is fairly serious in a sense that the name of their game is power, both sides want power. Mr. Wallace, representing my, in my judgment the major thrust of the far right and he will be back in 1972 and he is hi -*.3 picking up a lot of the sentiment that was expressed 1 by Mr. Freed, although he disavowed that particular I 7 party. An 1 _ . Gordon: disavowedWallace, Wallace Freed, not Freed dise _ { __ avowing Wallace. . -:- = ~ -- 5.-m _i Hall: Yes, that's what I meant. I'm sorry, I, I worded --v ' it clumsily. I meant Mr. Wallace picks up that kind .*92v -0 of support while,at the same time, disavowing it and he totaled over nine million votes in the last election and then you have the disruption tactics on 4 campus led by people like Mr. Hoffman and, dispite the obvious exhibitionism, it does get serious because they do close down great institutions and they do slow .._.; up the educational process without ever actually ¢- ,_' reforming it. So I-think to dismiss them both as _ being member of the zoo, which I think they are, is 92 also to miss the point, but I don't think that this l -; =.+'2'*'.4.-Q . ' afternoon, was the time, or this evening was the time, 1:4, to try to come to grips about it. zi pg Gordon: Do you think that the movement that Mr. Hoffman leads ' or attemts to lead represents any danger to this =.'L' country? ' » .. Q"- _ ' "Hall: I suppose depending on how well the administration, - this one and the succeeding administrations do in L ' handling things like brushfire wars-or future Vietnams n"p ' and the race question, depending on how well or how 92 i 92»I 92 I L I ,_. __ . _ ., ____..._~,i-.-_._._.il_._._.-....__.._.. ._._Ja_._ A-._-_ Au»-______._v_*a -- . ' 92 -21,. I ,_. - '1 -'1'. . .- _c, , :7 - D - 0 ff? .7. if -¢ Re: Lou Gordon Television Show of July 13, 1969, Detroit, Michigan, Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, ' 1 James Freed and Gordon Hall ET "badly they fare in these areas, I think will ultimately spell, the, either the demise of these groups or further acceleration, I think that it, it valways depends on what those of us in the middle, and I regard myself certainly as a political moderate, "92- how well we handle these things depends on how well the extreme left right now in particular will do. "Gordon I think J. Edgar Hoover was reported as having said this week that these people were being financed, the -w Abby Hoffman type and the SDS type were being financed by liberals in our society. Some people think they are being financed by international Communism, or by Cuba or China. How do you fell about that? I53 "Hall: I don't believe it is true, _I, I've studied this as :1. 1 I say fairly closely for a long time and I see no evidence whatever that money is coming either from - :2,__ Red China or from Castro's Cuba. Now, it may be, E:_,,n but I have never seen any evidence. And not only that, I've never seen a Federalagency able to document .. this kind of charge. But it sounds great you know to say that they are on the payroll of Mao Tse-tung, or something like that. And I think it is also a _ U mistake to suggest that liberals are financing the . r..._. far left. Liberals tend to be financing the Kennedys in their campaign, so, of course, the'Kennedys have E. hardly needed money, but I mean the overall campaign _ - = of people representing the views of say Senator Edward Kennedy of my State of Massachusetts. Liberals are 5-?- reformists, people who want to maintain this system. but they want to improve_it and get on with the serious L" -1-£4-.~I 4-1-.-.47-I [email protected] - B A-an . l.-.-92s924-qu--am,-~' Es I I-9292l w921I 92lllJ-J|llJ.§ll=92l lJ92.lD.l.ll=§§ UL 92Jlul-L 92.lClllJ92vLG5-xi PU l Ll-l&lll92 ' "Gordon Where do they get their money? Where do they get 1 their money? '~- r 0 'fHa1l: Well, I don't think that they have very much money, - certainly I imagine that wherever Mr. Hoffman is going after.he leaves is show he will be flying .,,g_ but I don't think it will be on'an airplane. I don't 5';-ihi think they have very much money to work with. I .!-.. L.-. .- think its a myth to think that underground newspapers Q 1 I 0 ' .-I ¢ . } I y , 1 . _ ~ 0 ' 0 F I Re: Lou Gordon Television Show Of ' I ._-__ , July 13 , 1969, Detroit, Michigan, , ._. '.' '1. -C Featuring Abbott Howard Hoffman, James Freed and Gordon Hall "in hovels and they eat when they can and sleep where they can so Ijthink it is a myth that this is a heavily financed kind of operation. "Gordon: How should we deal with the party sentiment, how should we deal, we in the middle, who want to try and save this system and make it work. How should we deal with people like Mr. Hoffman, the extreme left? _ _ _ r 2, . "Hall: Compassionately I think, above everything else, it serves little purpose to suggest that Mr. Freed reallydoesn't believe that Walter Reuther is a red . and that he really does call the shots for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. This kind of paranoia apparently is rampant in the Minutemen. I think you have to deal with them compassionately and try to understand them, but at the same time, while you are trying to understand them, keep an eye on them because these people mean business and despite all the tomfoolery today, I think that obviously both of r 4 these kooks would, if they could, come to power and and by any means necessary. Gordon: were frequently criticized, we, the staff and myself, ..' far. for giving these people exposure. Do you think that's ' a mistake? ~ ' "Hall: No, not really. I think that you can overexpose them and I think' -.:_-._ .l to.give them too much free time may but I think there is an educational Ru. be overdoing it, value in letting them come on like this and_I just .7". '¢J _ would appreciate it if next time_you would omit me, but I think that there is real value in having them I sit before the cameras and say these things because mst people really wouldn't believe that a man like Mr. Freed harbors the notions that he is endlessly being persecuted by the FBI and Mr. Hoffman, on the other hand, believes that he is a total innocent, more es or less, and that the police and everybody else are constantly on his back. -By the'way, I simply dont the believe that story about being endlessly followed. 51% The FBI has more important things to do than to follow Hr. Hoffman. . ' .11 J. L, .- ", 92. =. "-30-. - - Al ... i. __. ..._._ ...... -. _. .. _..-._.._ .' '1 . .. "' 5? . -1 .11 '_,1 ;_-._ .'__' " ." "'' .. - ' - .7 "'""" -""""" - ,__ _ . _ . - * 92--.~- _ *"" ."' _..___ . ,..,_ -._.__..__.___._._,._.._-,_ .. 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NBWTOHis presently serving a sentence of 2 to 15 years 4 on a conviction of-manslaughter in connection_uith the .~ - ' k1lling_of an Oakland Police Officer. - lI_;»Q,{¢Q.j;f 3 ?The official newspaper, Fwhe Black Panther , 2 which further describes itself as the F lack Community News Service", states that the BPP advocates the use of guns and guerrilla tactics in its revolutionary programlto end . - oppression of the_h1acR_people. Residents of the black community are urged to arm'themse1ves~against>the!police-who are consistently referred to in the publication-as "pigs" - . who should be killed. . , I _ -.~-- -...l.lr;- ._ ' 92 I 1 5- _'74§ L Black na5¢né£*_is5se of Septenherll, l96d.f - .. contains an editorial by BPP Minister of Education G£0RGEl - 4* MASON MURRAY, which ends with the following: _; -- Black men.- Black people, colored persons of _ =America,9revolt-everywhere? Arm yourselves.1 The-only cult » -5.. I ture worth keeping is a revolutionary culture. Change. _ ._. Freedom everywhere; Dynamite! Black Power. Use the gun. .1 .-' Kill the pigs everywhere. ' + LI . . l - . , , _ _ . , _' Included in the introduction to an article appnarin in the October 5, 1968, edition of The Black-Panther" is the statement, '...we will not dissent from American Government. we will overthrow it. s _'-r V .' -.< - Issues of The Black Panther" regularly contain quotations from the writings of chairman MAO Tse-Tung of the 'Peop1e s Republic of China and feature MAO's statement'tnat -_ , ..,_ _ fpolitical power grows out .of,,the ba_1_:re_l__o£_a; gun. _ , '. 1 I ' - F55 .. _ _ . 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' :we 92_ - ' m=1=s1~m_1=_>;' - r 2'-'.- . i any G3 "MINUTE?-$314" J 5' The "Minutemen" was organized in June, 1960. Its present headquarters are Norborne, Missouri. Robert B. DePugh, Norborne, Missouri, has been publicly identified as the 1 founder and National Coordinator of the organization since its inception. bkmbership of the "Minutemen" is claimed by re -. ' ". DePu;h to be in excess of 35,000 members; however, confidential sources state this figure is greatly exaggerated and that a ' more true estimate would be between 500 and 1,000 members. State- ments by DePugh and literature distributed by the organization -indicate its purpose to be the resistance to, and exposure of, the spread of Communist influence within the United States; for the formation of a guerrilla or underground organization to combat the troops of any foreign powers which might eventually occupy this country; to resist passage of laws which would regulate private.ownership of firearms. In April, 1966, DePugh stated the "Minutemen" organikation was then dividing itself into two bodies: one i". I i _.- group to be memberswho have been able to maintain their I-1 identity in complete secrecy from the public and government investigative agencies, and the other group to be made up of members who have been nuhliely identified and who will become active in the etriotic Party. National Conventions of the Patriotic Party were held in July, 1966, at Kansas City, Missouri, and July, 1967, at Kansas City, Kansas, Members of the "Minutemen" organisation, including RQb¬I%:1Bo DePugh and his close associate, Welter P. Peyson, have been arrested in the past on charges of violation of the Federal Firearms Act, Bank Robbery - Conspiracy, Illegal - Fossession of Firearms and Conspiracy to Commit Arson. _The have also en aged in maneuvers utilizing guerrilla tactics wherein machineguns, mortars, grenades, andother firearms. Q were employed. - ' - - pin-" - p I . ? '1? 1- '- Q Q _ _ _ _ A__ ___,._ . --- _-,~-- -_-----»---._,___--- -i--V-1 7 7_._7 e7' -__, ~___.;_ H - e ; . ' I 0_'- 7 ; "'3: _, . ~'_ I the-tthe Students for a Democratic Society SDS!, as t is known today, came into . " being at a founding convention held at Port Huron, Michigan, ,_ - _ in June, 1962. From on initial ideological posture or . ' ,_ perticipatory democracy," the current line of the national leadership reveals an adherence to Marxism Leninism."_Mlchael Klonsty, Rational Secretory, in Eerch, 1969, called for the ,- 7 'bui1dingof a revolutionary Merxist Leninist movement. The - program of SD$ has moved from.involvement in civil rights , - . . struggles to an anti-Vietnam war position and finally to its Q present advooaoy of an anti~imperie1ist line, linklng up the , -o§pressed'peoples of Asia, Africa and Latin America with the' f"bleck liberation movement in the United States. China, ' __ _ ,92r-l__4-..-e.nuH en 3-_92!;1 {vign1~. --e e.- ' .1;=¢> rr-92-rt:-n 8.r=d --, -_-l _- 11;:rsrmgmtriegg --_--_-_ ._-- gghich are-__ _-e 1.c:a_dint'- _-e . the world wids struggles against Unlted States imperialism. ' -- -~On the other hand, SDS regards the Soviet Union as en 7 '- imperialist power and does not support tho'po1iciesof that - country. " - _ _ ~ - '5 I l. - _ EDSmaintains a National Of ice in'30om206, 1608 . West Madison Street, Chicago, Illinois. Its Official paper _ -' - New Left Notes reflects the.line of the.national leadership .and program adopted at meetings of the National Council and - National Interim Committee NlC!. Three national officers and a NIC of eleven members ere elected each year during e -:3 - June National Convention. 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Q This covers the receipt o s complaint further action w 11 be taken by this Bureau nlessp be D so direc _» ;~$>' . ew? 37% . v _,$R289291°'¬n/ L m_»_11 i -_ -, 92.. { I - 92 . . 92- ,- '. -._._r;'. / 1; ,1 ' §¢~. 3 in-J .-;:~ i-1 -L7. -'.'T-Fe':f ml?-61f__" "- .I: | - S N I : FEDERAL. ;.éL!R£-'1!-6.5 OF iN ~n G1l92T!Oi92l 1.-. P P2 t an-our-we orrncz M K 92_o"|=:c|: oroiucm , Khan: F-evzrruaattve Pzmub __ T| _Ej OF'cf;$E sr-.'Afr'rLE, S I X i I en1c;:e0 ,__ ,1:/,1"/j/69, ac:-'.~n1 man: ev 9/24 -; 10[15/0,9 TYPEDP;_ ABBOTT r:owAnn n'o1=rmr<, aka djz - Sczunkf rsv or cAsiS S 92 AHL S S S 57¢ ,. 51'- REFERENC 1_;_s1 : Seattle report of 5/6/69; _, Seattle letter to Bureau airtel to Minneapolis & Seattle, 5/29/69; Q. New York radiogram to Director, 6/6/69; F 1 Seattle teletype to Director & Chicago, 6/6/69; . Seattle airtcl to Bureau, 6/16/69; ' Seattle letter to Bureau, 7/18/69. l . - r:ucI92.1.-L!fY.7""1: t aTéfT . rt _*:=2ma£0 ' H . 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BUREAUOF INVESTIGATION _ '1 3; _ Dnle _ i I 3 I .1571 *9}| -_._92 recordin . ,. c 3; ntains the remarks ma de by _ f HOWARD HOFFMAN ina speech a 2: :3»advised Spokane, thatWashington hehad dubbed99, theseAprii 1969 _' leted Z dentified these , __ tapes with initial t he was present -i . at Gonzaga University when HOFFMAN madethe remarks "; recorded and that he can testify that thlS is a true in and correct recording of the remarks made by HOFFMAN J at Gonzaga University April 29, 1969. 1 I .5 I h I'_'4 _i;' >5 I .-.1;'92"' . . _ _ _e , ____ » | . . I D r . - I ' 0 _ 92 On 9/git?/59 _ d_§pok;lt:e,Washington I re#SE 17621:1 i Q9; ' . ' "-'--- 1-. e W _ :_;_ __: I _ 7 4* Dole dicla M _:_ if i ~ >9 K ' Iislocwndnnhimnnllhuiwuuuudu onsnuoomlnaigegd!lI;F!L!liLggrc9gr&ye!!b.ef!e-1!!1_een!1|!QP !'99¢"Q" -_':;_1a Iclliualuilnlndinnlblliilibunodillaidopnrogenty.:-* .. 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Too bad the sound wasn't toogood on that. Movie "Off the Pig" was Just shown! There's only one thing wrong with that movie, there's only one little fib. We did after all put the LSD in the drinking water. laughter! LSD. I remember calling up - there was this guy that's like very liberal on the Daily. He was a real sweater. He kept trying to negotiate permit application five months. Kept - stalling same as DAVID STALL, Deputy Mayor of Chicago. Two weeks while we were into the festival life, or whatever the hell we call it, called him up and say "Hey DAVE how're ya doin'." Ho said garbled! he's sweating, liberal sweat. Said "I'll let ya know a secret. You know, I see all the stories in newspapers how you got 1500 troups out there guarding the reservoir, the filter system, Chicago and all these things about LSD in drinking water. You must illigible! in the streets or something like we didn't even start that 5 rumor. You know something? It can't be done. You check C | it out. Call some of these scientists you know them all." So he says, "I know, we have checked it out. We aren'ttaking any chances anyway." Very freaky. 1500 troups. illigible! 1 We picked up a paper one day that says Top Yippies Indicted for Plot to Assassinate Hubert Humphrey. Oh, look around. Yep, they got all the top ones. They're after the pigs. It's against the law to have animals in the streets of Chicago unless you'reSpiro Agnew and the animal is an :3 elephant, then it's ok laughter!. So we brought this pig down and they grabbed him up and about 7 other people took him_out to the Animal Rescue League Jail. And_we had this _ F - press conference and we said you turn this pig loose in ~. ~ three hours we run a lion for president. laughter! Take I": another fuck. Oh, what the hell. They sent four cops right from the zoo to illigible!., It's amazing what they believe. All this is going to come out September 24, the t: biggest circus country I've ever seen. Call a trial; con- '.s spiracy! To breath together, conspiracy. Eight guys. They did it. Yeah, BOBBY SEALE, head of the Black Panther ~_ Party, he was there. Ten hours, gave two talks, 15 minutes I long. Ten years - two talks. DAVE DILLINGER been a pascifist 0- thirty years. He up in teaching illigible! devices. _ P Say DAVE teach me. I believe in better living through chemistry. They report we are ready. Going to drive 9,000 cattle through streets of Chicago. We are going to assassinate others. We're going to blow up baseball diamond. Hear this. They accuse us of coming to Chicago to perform magic. Against $5 the law. LAW. Law is an interesting thing to talk about. |;..-. T3? ' "' 7""' "' ."'' ' r -Q 92.--3 -.-1.. "I- ... -" r- _92_.,=;:. '- *. "*" ru '@~ "'" " I; r i~ 1 . -~- fa.-T'"3'7" i $? T293?" *# R§§# Y¢3$t¢m£&* P"~w="-~~~~~- 4. _.__,i-___.. ;'-._____._-,*__ §i"_ _ ,-,_.-1; .-T .._g_-_;_.1; SE 176-21 This country. Mini Brute said in the halls of Justice in America the only justice is in the halls. I know that's" true. I have forty arrests. I'm doin' all right. Two convictions. Forty arrests. They're both going to Supreme Court.' Somebody can't wear a shirt. illigible! Thirty days for that. Now I got another charge for resisting arrest to a crime, like, that didn't happen. The crime was thrown out. Resisting arrest was thrown in. About a week ago I was arrested while I was in a phone booth. In court waiting to go on trial upstairs. Black Panthers outside having a demonstration so the oops came in and like did this whole thing provin that-there ain't even justice in the halls of justice. Yeah, he yanked me out of a phone booth and hit me right on the head. Like that. I bounced off the wall. I said, "Excuse me officer, what seems to be on your mind, you know?" He said get the fuck out of the building. I said that's what's called an obscenery cause I had this word, dirty four letter word, you know,late, printed on my forehead in Chicago and . was arrested for that and the cop at the trial said, "Judge, he had an obscenery written on his forehead." If that's an - obscenery 1 learned to talk that way in back of police stations. So I was out of sight when the cop said "Oh he used obsceneries. That's where we learn them. I didn't learn them from my mother. Or the Jesuits. So, where was I. Yeah, I was getting wacked again and he said "get out of the building. I said, "Well, I'm not with the demonstration, see. I'm on trial here for like Columbia, something that happened a year ago and the judge is waitin' to see me." BOOM. So I did this whole karate demonstration for the judges in and lawyers who were assembled in the court room. Sent three to the hospital. They putlnnd chains, leg irons I've never had leg irons on. It's really hard to kick with them 1 things on. They brought me in the press room and held a -police press conference. See, they just pounded away "dI yelled "l4l79." You know, stuff like that. Badge numbers. Right. They were taking the pictures like that guy's doin'. But that ain't news. Along with assault are five other charges. For'what? It doesn't matter. . ' r You know, I was arrested the next day for not I showing up at the trial. A week before that I was arrested for not fastening my seathelt on an airplane. It's all the same. Catch 22. Catch 22 says they can do whatever fuck ¢_ they want to as providing we can't stop them vice versa. That's the attitude we bring to Chicago and face ten years $20,000 fine. We are calling ourselves the conspiracy. Yeah, right. That's what they call us. The conspiracy. That's .-. I- . » . 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September 24? 1969 Lincoln Park. Don t come. We need all the room we can get. We went down there to the Federal Building - I mean to the parks commissioner which permit application and said seeing how you go were and treated us last time. We know how you process this with all illigible! speed etc. etc. etc. Where's Commissioner BERRY. Oh, Commissioner BERRY is no longer with us. He died a week after the conventin. Sorry about that. illigible We love Chica go. I don't know why. JOCK say cheer ! for the cops. They wer e holding it in. Liberal school. Shit, I was at St. Jose phs. Man, they were yelling for the. eeps. Let the cops do it, hdi Do it yourself. You love me dearly so much iigur e out why the eight of us got bounced i on this blind justice's cale with eight cops. They put up eight cops. Scapegoats . They'repolicemen sure. Didn't bring it cause it's kin d of cold up here. Didn't wear - cop gave me that. I ga ve him a brownie. The park. He gave me a shirt. Ias a spec ial kind of brownie. we are underr ground layout. And il ligible! this thing with hash and grain alcohol mixed with hone y. Serve it up. Brownies, oleo margarine, honey sandwi ches. bzzzzzsa. All the eeps go bzzzzzzz. The bell it ain't Sunday. Festival life. Free music in the park sitti n there ternative culture festival of life ten miles away. Democrats, Convention of death. You should have seen th at place. We built up this uncle mess tor like six month s. You know, festival of lite illigible! of death. didn't believe it. We went to ! Chicago. As you approa Ie the International Amphi theater and ;'."'-.-5:-. there's this huge green ch sign, white lettering. It says sheep 1.3; . this way, hogs this way. Pointed right at the International Amphi-theater. And you get like close to it and you start _-4 0 . 3; - 5 _ - -92 '_ f'¬:: r . '4."92- ~'. ti... -.. _,.-._....-.-- ._-" _ ._i _.,....,-._.. .__.l. ._. ._. __.__._-._r.~- "7 U: T . 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I don't know if you've been there but it'sa hell of-a stink and - they had two piles of manure 70 feet high either side of the hall. chemicals.They had to spray the speakers with special CBW stuff. So the flies wouldn't buzz around them while they spoke, phew! It was designed by HOWIE A JOHNSON on the inside. Funky. I went in there one night. I borrowed these credentials illigib1e!._ It's a general loose term Life magazine collaborating with the yippies and I went inside and I started to look around. This was " Friday. Convention started on Monday and all I see they flip out. They do this little theater thing. They had E saytheir gunsFLOWER illigible They away from you,POWER! microphone!circuleknow, and you theygot a they pad and paper 18, 24 illigible!. Right to Washington. .- l " They'll be at the trial. Strange evidence will be at the trial. They had 25,000 troops in Chicago. They had helicopters with machine guns, they had ten miles of barbed wire all around eight city blocks around the Convention. I don't know if they got a permit for that. We'll have to _ check that out. All these troops. Mayor there said "We needed these troops because in the April __ issue of . Saga Magazine the ppies reveal their plans. SAGA MAGAZINE! illigible! head cops. Sounded like the police union, like fight the things like longer clubs. Stuff like that, I don't know. And he said you people have very good credentials you have burned down a number of illigible! before you = came to Chicago. illigible! Yeah. That's right. People all looking at you very freaked out. The head cop. Dumb yippie. They're both agreeing. Burned down a number of cities. They'd believe anything. -. ' -i~ 'Boob tube. Saw a show couple of months ago said in where'd you get your money. They always ask that, huh. Oh ' well, on August 17, 4 a.m. Seventh Street and Avenue B, we 1 met with a man who called himself Spiro Agnew and he gave us ..' $10,000 in small paper bile. Let's goon to the next -u-. . . question what'sa hippie, what's ayippie, and all this * heavy intellectual stuff. At the end of the show the illigible! ' -said, "Hey, I don'tthink the people know that the Republicans gave you money." You know, like them them. And the moderator said, "Yeah, they do that. I mean after all it did help Nixon and Humphrey did get beaten because of that rat." Makes Sense. And the cameras doing that. Makes sense. MAKE SENSE. WHAT A TRIP. They're all on a trip out there. - They're serious. Hake sense. ' _ £55-EW- I -. .-~92 Now I wear this shirt, right? Looks like a flag. _<.-11' I wear it because I was born on the Concord Bridge. Tradition we - s - . '. -- __ i _. 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They got a lot -J1 of rules like that like we t hing about before. Hello, -..-. -.~.=.~. I'm smokeythe bear, see. That's good for six months. That's, you got a law library here, you look it up. That's Volume 18, U. S. Code 711 Smokey the Bear Statute. It's illegal 1-J to impersonate Smokey the Bear. He's a queer. Well, he's the Government. illigible! The importance of a flag is developing a sense of loyalty to a national illigible! has been the subject of numerous essays. First essay, C. -"r Hitler illigible!. Hitler. He's back. Who's straight? I got to do that. I don't evenbelieve him myself illigible! I said yes. But Hitler and Melvin Bamberg illigible! Depart- ment of Justice are goin' in to argue that case before they appear in court. In Washington on May 19th. You can get one year wearin a shirt. Course Phyllis Diller, see, go on TV in a ilag mini skirt, like, that don't matter. You know, drum majorettes walk around all the time. Uncle Sam's a 2 5" fucking criminal. But it don't worklike that. Catch 22. Catch 22. Course. Well, so what's it about, huh? You watch the program. Revolution this thing called . Revolution, yeah. illigible! Revolution. Dash is a revolution in soap detergent. Join the Dodge Rebellion. See add two weeks ago in New York Times. $6,000 ad. What are the revolutionaries at United Artists planning for '69? Plan it, they ought to _ .55 1 be doing it. Revolutionaries. I know.what it means. But '_:.';1-Q to a lot of people it might upset. There used to be a 1. 1. hippie flower child. Smiling. And we had like this dream. st p- ----..-.3,A .1:P ll -.711 U . if '--started before--- --.-'-- ---'_.-- then_ 1'11; Qntjer - v -._ 3Q, R91; to be I .trusted. I got educated in Mississippi. Be in Mississippi. .1 '92 T- See, and uh local sheriff come by and arrest you. I always is got arrested in Mississippi goin' through town - going through er -ayou regn lightlina ce an gadtowglthagldidngtihave e c v r g ne.s wor A d er they g ve put em 92v-_ a bottle of liquor, and theykick the shit outa you. Then Q2.- they throw you out. Saves you the trouble of going to court, y. I guess. But you'dbe getting beat up you see and the . FBI wouldoome'hy they and take these notes. And theysay, ' ."We'reu h ya man. We're with ya." Justice Department officials. JOHN DOE and those kind of people, liberals, we're Q with ya. It's terrible what's goin'on around here illigible! Callas us Mississippi. co ect. Call WOW! us Youin Washington say Ok manwhen youlneed{G hglp.0 that. What'reyou going to do now?""Well, I'm sorry,son. In this case my hands are tied, states rights, and all that shit." Oh, my hands are tied. Always hear that from liberals. when I went to school my iirst demonstration ¬?§ with CAROL CHESMAN, they killed him on Death Row for 12 years. ire _ 7 - @_i II-1 "Ir -,.--I -1» 9 1 -Ln. - 0-.- an <' - 1" 1.", - - . " ll SE 176-21 , R I v Wrote about 11 books. Raped some chick, something. I don't ¢;' know. San Quinton. Going to gas him. So we went down, had a little picket. MARDON BRANDO was there. Tuesday night. Warden came out, gave us all coffee and doughnuts, said we 5 agree with your goals but not your methods. PAT BROWN, big liberal today, got on TV - "I'mopposed to capital punishment, 31v but in this case my hands are tied." For about six years been meeting all kinds of people whose hands are tied. llligibie! pull out. Fuck it all. Be a hippie. Whoo. Go to San Francisco with a flower in my hair. San Francisco. I saw Lower East Side, though. New York. That's Shangri la East. 10,000 tons of garbage right now in my neighborhood in Lower East Side. Pig eye. We ought to make free stores, free society. We'regoing to love everybody. Ilower - flower power. And then it happened. Hippies are the last hope for America. They're groovy. Nice people. See Babylonian, this guy illigible! they figured out what to do when their kids are like, too hip. They build an idol, _ They called it Molak. And they tell all the people bring ~ your kids down throw them in. Kill em. And they did and 6 .l Babylonia crumbled. Now they don't needMolak. They got a Government. And they got pigs. Well, I mean that's aneutral term. Afterall, we like pigs too, huh. We offered one up for president. Nazi stomp troops is what they call them. I don't like that. Illigible! does that says Yeah that's me. Here, want to see how many kids I kill? Look, look at my club. Call em fags, Jew bastards, Commies. That's heavy talk to cops. People saw all that coming out of Chicago. ' Theysaid, I DON'TBELIEVE IT. Get out ofny living room! .4 ' ain'tIt true. Well, it wasn't. Like it wasn't to those _ _people. Cause they sit up in white suburbs they don't Lower J_ __East Side. They see cops different. Cops see a guy and ~.92 helps you change a flat tire. That s the guy like that keeps "an eye on the house while you go down to Miami. Palm Springs. If you're adult - Palm Springs. You see them on FBI and Mod Squad. They're all good guys, you know. They're good guys. So like what happened in Chicago can't be true. They always say that like a close friend died. You know, first ' reaction CAN'TWBE TRUE!Not that. System is dying. And it's time to build something better. To build it and defend '-0 ' it. And that's what we tried to do in Lincoln Park. And Tr»- every night at ll o'clock they come in and say, "Well I you yippies, you're city folk. What'cha doin' inthe park. Why don'tyou go out of town and ript it up." Well, ta: - said, "Ok, we'll dothat." What re you trying to do we !:"r'§- Free. That's the program of the future.. 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Said, "When can 1 go in the super- market and buy what I want with my good looks?" You know, ten years ago it took 480 man hours to produce an acre of E corn. Today it takes 48. Five years it'll take four years. And in ten years it will take four minutes. One acre of E i corn. So we just say yippies' member of the working class only he's on strike. Partly cause we recognize there are ! no jobs worth doin'. are no jobs worth doid. But you got to work, man, whereby got to work. That's why you got to be in school. »Preventive detention, that's what schools are. Nursery schools. And the Army. Keep kids in there. So he oan t get out and realize that there are no jobs out there. And if they find something they aren't worth doing. I was in school. I remember, I don't know, like if they do it up in this area, but when I was young they taught you how to make ovals, see, and you had to draw these little circles in between these two lines. You kept, bke doing that and doing that and doing that over and over and over again til I got a masters degree, you know. And then they teach you how to sit. Like this. illigible - away from microphone! Like that. How're you going to get stoned that way? You got to sit that way. _ --. 1 Discipline, control, brainwashing. Oh oh. Dc talk about brainwashing, man. iilligiblei Cuba, talk about world revolutions, socialism, that's brainwashing. I saw it on TV. That's what they call brainwashing. Farmer Jones has four apples and he brings them to town sells them for 2 _ cents each. How much profit does he make?_ That's mathematics That's not brainwashing, though. Columbusi Columbus dis- covered America. Whoo. How'd he do that, there are people here. Well, like see then you figure out this dis- cover means: White western power, ccnquerers, non white, non-western power. Thatls what discover means and you have a whole means of history. Work, yeah, I know. illigible! Catholic school. Hey, I got no quarrel with Christ. He is a hippie. Dela his thing. Driving money changers from he temple. Whooo. Class revolution. Slave revolt. Call it religion. Ok, .. .4 that's cool. Keep flying brother, don't tell them what . . ._d:¬_ you're into. You call it religion, that's good. Hey, he's groovy, see. He went all the way. Then came the dxnples, .-'4; see. Dmmdples, like kids in a course,'uh, that'slike get A. i 1. In '4 1 5 an ,. - P.. AV __ _ _ ...... , .-..¢'-- F . f_':_ '. H-- ,-we-1».' n§t'%%w#v_ ._ '.¢fi--Iv ! 1,.-_ A! It V_ . M J, : A ____ ._-_ ' =2.. . - . I... ~ - - _~-.>»- -~.- -n-.H~»~ .¢~¢r=r%-~»: =~ c ?=r:i.*ii5F% ??1??3 ¢;éI1iFY?TIr - " e 921 176 21 _ u Don't understand what the hell the teacher's talking about, right. That's what a diunple is. They say hell, man, he was really serious. Remember, ho, we've got to really be serious. We have to sacrifice. Yeah. They're all sittin' around pawing i - all the guys, you know. And they say, well, like, what can we do? You know, one guy says well, why don't we wear black. Hey, that's a good idea. That's hip. That's ser Paul says, "I got a better idea." Tey say what why don't we not fuck. And hark, you know, he's horny, he said I don 'tremember him saying that. Sermon of the Mount. He didn't say that. But t we got to be serious. We'll fuck and people don ious. And we ' re varv QQ l"1 92JQ - "- -- vi--J Q - - w _- We can huild big temples. He said yeah. Big temples. Cut you in Mark, cool it. Th va little St. Augustine. Ah, a cracker. He came along. YI was at a better one. He said, "We're all going to rot Cameey say, No OS. Original Sin. Oh sin, yeah, hit me again, t think I feel it. I'm so sinful. Yeah, right. That hey said oh Don't eat meat. Ok. That'll do it. Then some Illa!!- '5eah. Yeah. Palonious he just wented to like bawl illigibl 'up with They said Get thee to Jerusleum. Right. But t WB all got good enough. See, that was like goin' on, neve h Ho Ow. things, burning witches and all that. Having g I" not enough. And then came the e!1. ippie Niggers dodt want oo like that. l2 year old kids. industrial revolution. They say hat wasn'tHey Niggers, to keep plowing the fields. They'redoin' groovy _ They don't want to work 20 hours a d fun. day. What're we going to do. They're bankers. And factory owners. 1' So is this guy John Calvin, see, he went around Switzerland_ illigible!. And he's cool looking, he had a funny little ,. hat. Say, you got any ideas, Calvin? He says, Yeah we'll tell them they won't get into heaven; not unless tney save all their money and postpone all their pleasure. And work. Work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work you get to heaven. Protestantism. Too chichen shit to be Catholic. They worked. and worked, worked. worked- worked worked worked, worked. Four letter word. illigible! We're not going to work anymore. Oh, they hate that. They hate that more thani their ohscenaries. They hate that more than the MLF. They hate everything but they hate that the most. Cause whose 1 going to pick up the garbage. Illigihle! Cynics. Whose going to pick up the garbage. They, that what Universities are for, they teach you that. Look at all sides. Can't do 4 anything. Can't tight City Hall. Lot of apathy around here. Tosh, who's going to pick up the garbage. The future. The .~ .-n .._! 31" future is ours. And the future is free. Unlimited possibilities :'-_- Tried explainin' that to some guys, some reporter at the airport W: . » 3- today. He wouldn't buy it for beans. You know why? Cause -0 it. like he had a view of human nature is basically bad. People -g L are bad. Hangover that OS stuff. Calvin bullshit. People ., _. " - 19 _ 11' . . -,~-- _. ,_ -; ,' , :.. 1 1 121.. -- _ ._ ,1 _-;-- 1, . r .,& i- _. .;., -g u _ Z . . H .._ ~.i-. "" ".' .' " - - ;- ~-~- '*:'-<~,e .-'f.~~ -r. ?."f-of " --. :.:="*""* .+T:T"*-1-i=5.--"<6-.=-.~r¬~ -Ti -. "_'T';: ¢ <_ '= -£3 I SE 176-21. ' 92 are bad. Not Just you, I mean you ain't bad, at least you 5 ain't bad as your neighbor's kids. They're the really bad 1 ones. So we got to censor stuff. And we got to lock things away. And we got to keep them away from smoking flowers. Put them in school. Cause they're bad. Man is basically evil. Church says that. Well, see, man's nothing. You know he's basically the evil, good, or somewhere in between. Right? So, it's like a Y test. Tells you more about person who's saying it. Does a5out mankind. Mankind's madeup. People are with us. Hmmm. Yeah, I know, Gallup. illigible! 98.9% of the people not with us. Well when we were in Chicagowe took two barber shop poles,'onetelephone pole, took then hack to_New York, asked them all these questions. They said, People are with you. We're artists. We're going to have society of artists in the future. No work, all art. No property. Property. illigible! Property is theft. Property must be destroyed. Art must be preserved. You work at art, you're worth defending. You piece of property, you should be destroyed. It's all the question of how you look at yourself. Future society of artists. Unlimited potential. Believe in man it'sa very revolutionary attitude. a People aregood. Wow! Year theydon't tohave work, they'll be creative, productive because that'stheir natural drive. 3 That's their tendance - be nice. Ain't that simple. Make love not war, you know. Go up, kiss a cop. Christ. Tried that. Brought the flowers, and they brought out the clubs. Tear gas. Dogs. Armed helicopters. Three weeks ago 20,000 young people had a little concert down at Palm Springs. They ame with helicopters, tear gas, drove them right out. Drove them into town. Three got shot. Boston Common last summer. 200 kids arrested for idleness. 65 injured. Dogs they used. Fighting kids. I saw one teacher up at Dartmouth who ~was in on that demonstration show where a cop bit him. Hey, =L he still had the mark after six months. Cops bit him. He said it, I didn't believe it. I thought they were vegetarians. But the flower children have grown thorns. Last-week 16 year old kid Pleasantville, New York, home of Readers Digest, Readers Digest. All over the world. 16 different flavors, all van la. Publisher Readers Digest, see, get an anti hippie speech, now illigible! came home his kid said "Dad thump! stabbed him. Hmm. Revolutionary act. Only they call it aggravated assault. Chuck them away. 16 year old kid. Sons rising up against fathers. Cause they want to kill us. Flower children growing thorns. They're fighting back. Cause we ain't going to see that old beauti- g ful world unless we fight back. Unless we wreck the system. f".'.,'7-.-.Capitalism. Just don't seemright. People ought to ._,.-Q live in a state of competition. Seems they ought to cooperate . - 7 a little more. 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Protect property andgeople who own property. grab Kicksome theshi: ki outthey of throw the people h m age iho nst t do:'t e wa hays say. ey b¥heyow a whistle. Pft. Twenty cops on my block. And they're all in uniform. They blow that whistle half the hippies turn on - the cops. It's outa sight. Undercover cops. All over the place. I just read an article by a guy from Denver said that everybody was actors in Chicago on both sides. Nobody there. It was kinda almost true. Cause I was arrested in ~a_police station on Wednesday for the obscenary. .There was this big box and these guys illigible! hippies coming in and pickin' up tamborines you know and beads and peace buttons and all those kind of stuff: And I didn't know whetheI it was lost or found, you know, uh these guys were uh like you read about, you know. So I go up and I say, "Hey, man, you with us you with them." And they do dis and I do dis - pft. ,Dog. Start a battle of Algiers. S right. 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'1 M stimulentiright, People who use it 200 years, flower grows wild, God-put it 'der. God. Thanks, God. You're a groovy cat. 200,000 narcotics arrests last year in this country. F Phsew. 200,000. .Caliiornia leads em all, 65,000. WOW! New York tryin' to catch up. Oh, hell. Lindsay. Lindsay's a liberal. Lindsay went around schools, see, three years ago saying, uh, marijuana laws oughta be repealed. See, tell ya. "Now's election " year. Penalty for possession of pot - one year. Hes York. Lindsay petitioned the Governor up illigihle!. That's repealed. Liberal. Four years smoke flowers. Ya get life i I think in some states. I was in Florida couple months 1 ago in this real heavy dark an this serious cat comes on the boob tube. Marijuana produces chromasome damage. What're they smokin in F1orida?T Must be heavy stuff. Flown in from Cuba. Furthermore, he went on to say if s parents have children with drug problems it's always parents Q got children with drug problems they should turn 'emcrer to the police, for their rehabilitation program. Pshew. Five years. Rehabilitation program. Parents turn l '1 in thér kids. It's like outa sight. At least in Nazi A Germany we gotta chance to turn in the parents. And the . trains ran on time. Shit, we don't even have that. You 3 think gettin' turned in by parents something. Up in Detroit, ithey got dogs, see. Sniff our pot. Train em special. - So David Brinkey went up 'der. Did ya see 'dat on that n comedy hour? What 'dey need the Smothers Brothers for anyway - they got Hnntley Brinkley, all thoseudder guys. Funny enough. So they bring David Brinkley in they say, "We want ta show ya how dese dogs work." Dey bring em out to the airport, see, and in comes this plane from ., .1.. San Francisco. Hmph. Easy target. 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You're gonna have 10,000 people walking naked on Lake Michigan. That's illegal. Show us the law. I know it's back there somewhere rah rah rah 2,700,000 laws in this country, can't look them all up. That's illegal. We say, 2 oh, we'regonna do it anyway. We like to break the laws. z Insanity. Choice of insanity and there'sa choice of J death. You wanta get a degree, learn how to make ovals, you wanta go sit in a office. I was out 'der. when I was older I was a salesman for drug company. Pshew. Heavy job. $15,000 a year. Had down a science. But only I worked four ' hours a week, spent the rest of the time workin for SNCC. But that was play, that wasn't work, the udder four hours were the work. Ya go up to a doctor, see, a detail man, 'atsa heavy job and uh say "Hey doc, uh we need a little report, ya know, like uh this drug ain't doin'too good. How bout writin' alittle report, I give ya $500 bucks. Said ck, slip_it under 'de doorand ya give 'im$500 bucks, see, then he writes this report an send it back to the home office, s -they zip it out to all these intellectual journals that doctors r read, and they read great. BRILLO. Yeah, it's good for diarrhea. And the whole thing was like run that way and it was spooky. Like ya didn'tknow, it ain't goodta shit or what, wbat'mI ddn' here? Peddlin this an who can I ask? What is truth, who am I, what'smy identity and all - _that. Where's mysoul? Like, I shod the church. Let me in, see, couldn't answer that. Where's soul,my priest, where's- my soul, rabbi. Ah, wecbn t know, ya know, uh we don't know bout lite. Go ask Dali Llama. Uh, I coulh't find him so I asked by boss. We came around, say "Hey, boss, this shit I-F4?. * any good?" He say, "Well, won't kill ya. House in the nit suburbs, it was great. owed the 1awn.- Yeah, mowed the lawn. e,=_ -'1-Four hours a day, $15,000. Yeah. But, it was burnin'my 5*? soul. 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She was like sorta hip, the nurse, more like in jail. Uh, last time Itas in jail I had this like doc how do ctor up er, ya know, doin' the whole trip. He comes in says, "What'ya got?" I said I got chronic -'8' bronchitis. He sayd "Dr ink a lot of water." giggle! I got '. cancer, doctor. Drink a lot of water. I What's goin o n up here? Mining company's rippin' up the hills. Loggers c uttin' down the trees. 42 of my J friends got busted yeste rday. San Francsco. Outside of it. Some big company wanna rip down all the trees. They think that's big issue. Me, well, ya know, as long as they clean up after their mes s. 42 in jail. So what! People 21$ say, well, we'd liketo do somethin around here but, uh, lota student apathy. That's an illusion. That means you're apathetic. We organize a demonstration in a hospital l New York. This is the only country I think in the world like i maybe if there's some gu y here who can correct that that d oesn't have pre medica l care.. Ya know? $16 New York hospit als for emergency treatment. Whether you'resick or not. Three .doctors say, "We're opposed to that." Well, they came to us they said, "Well, ya got any ideas?" We said yeah, burn the records. Well, they weren't readyfor_that trip, that's bk. They said, uh, we got anudder idea we ll give at slips of paper to patients, Tell em not to pay the bills. Some .7 ? write their congressman. Aggitate. Community agitation. Administration came down said, "You're fired." Three guys. .? 1; --"- 20' 92-I'v* zus stood7" "K' un. 20 '*' oth er *'* doctors said, "We tired - they | .- tired, we resgn. And moreover we gonna have a press con- " -ierence. Whole worlds gonna watch." They gave in. Cut the fee down. $2 from $4. Not only for that hospital but for all the hospitals in New York City now. Three doctors. Three .'.-an-. omething. ' ?J..,_. guys in this school do s a-|. in-./3; Eh, hepatitis comin'back. Hepatitis's a bad drug. f,';'¥_=.'.=when I was arrested for that shirt thing, they put me in 1-'.-=-__.* Jail in hashingtonZ Peder al Ponitentiarv. I J Thev took a blood -H? - 15 _ _." 4-.--'4; e1 ._-~ I SE 176-21 _,. 1 sample. Dirty needle. I got hepatitis. I was sick three months. Suing them for a million dollars. I! I win, be a whole different scene. Million dollars. Wow! An the ? Government an we go do 'datwhole skyrow thing again. An they say, "where d you get your money?" We say, "You did, E you gave it to us, don'tyou rememba? We print it. We L steal it. That's where we get it. Get it from man or any- I place. Get it from the Commies hiding under the bed. Get it from sluts in the street. Dope dealers, anythin'. We are America's badtrip. We're a hallucination. Yep, we're that had. Everything. Commies, anarchists, i igible!. _ Oh. International. Conspiracy. We are the people our parents warned us against. We're dirty. fNoos sommes tous indesirables. That's a French slogan. Noos sommes tous indesirables. That means we all oughta take a bath. Right? Ask any French teacher. Spring offenses started already. On Harvard. On Columbia. San Francisco State. Goin again. Berkeley goin' again. Panthers.are up at San Francisco this mornin . Goin' again. Meanwhile in Detroit. Ya know, during the riots there s suburban housewives calling TV stations sayin' my neighborhood in flames. Pshew. They hidin'. Sure it is honey. They afraid after Martin Luther 15 King got killed, see, Marty. Uh, selling ice cream cones with Jim Spa down the block. Heavy center. Dope dealin' center. An he pull file on him an all the cops and firemen came. Said, "Hey, the country's on fire." They threw him in Bellevue. Profits goin' to Bellevue. Spring offenses has ll started. An soon summer will be here. As the Rolling ' Stones say, "Summer's timefor fightin' in the streets." In 92 the streets. That's where we'llbe. Ya wanna find us? Funky _America, out in de streets. Oh, de say we don'twant da I- street - see, the street is all symbol in American culture. ¢ -tiolence in the streets. An it'sdirty in the §TGGtS. AH' uh I used to be in the streets when I was in the depression an I'msending ya to college so ya won't havetago to the streets. S they built drive-in movies, an drive in funeral parlors, an drive in universities. Stay inside. Keep stayin inside, that's'r1ght. It's fun out ina streets. S'1ota fun. Chicago'sa ball.Revolution for uh hell of it. Uh, Commandeet. I was just readin' his book bout French struggle. The revolutionwill come through Joy not through sacrifice. Joy. Well, what's joy. Joy boy toy. Joy joy Joy Joy joy. Joy is £ightin' for what ya believe in. Joy is fuckin' in the grass. Joy, Just a liquid soap. "Bubble bubble. All words; $5.' -'-If all bullshit. Only thing that counts is action. Question? Bid ya all take notes? {hues a second} We're all stunned, huh? -1 R ? - 16 _ ' 2&5 ,v r _r z __E. ,.__¥.. _ ,-...... ___ 'r -_-:-t. *7 '_-. . _ . _. t 7 " '4' " _ -_ . - 4- Ain't got nuttin' to say, dumb freak. Like me. Not even * any Jocks, somethin to say. Johnny Cash. I dig 'im. Jocks. Dig the Right Wing. Yeah, Goldwater. They got a lota balls. Gotta have balls ta go in Tennessee an tell em TVA ain't no good, ya know. Go to Olds Age Convention and tell em Social Security ain't good. Ha. Ha. at's good. Question asked from audience! Why did we go? Well, I think f there are two reasons. One was to present the reality to Americans we saw it our daily lives. See, so the whole world could see. I mean, like three months before that see, we had a-party similar to that in Grand Central Station. Birth of spring. Yip-in. And, uh, 8,000 people came at midnight. Celebrate the birth of spring.. To experience community. Sorta holy. Like goin to church. Touch each other. Smile an throw balloons in de air and get stoned. 1 Sing. An some kids climbed up on a telephone booth, uh, not a telephone booth there, where they tell ya where all the trains aren't rennin , that little booth with - got _ 1 a clock on it. An he pulled hands off the clock, see. 200 4 police came charging in with clubs big, they call the £lyin' wedge. Swoosh. Uh, Knute Hockney taught em the trick. They come flyin in SMASH! illigible! sprained ankle, uh, knocked unconscious. Yeah. Friend of mine, RON SHAY, came over to help. They threw him through a glass window. Broke both his hands. One he can't use, see. 100 arrested. Couple hundred sent to the hospital. when I tell the story people always say, Why did those kids take the hands off the clock? Somethin' wrong there, ya know? I mean whyn't those cops take g their hand off RON SHAY? Property values versus human values. .0k.- We'll bring that message to Chicago. Let the whole world see it. We want to stay in the park. Sorry you guys, can't stay in the.park. Law against it. We want to show the , _ reality of living in a police state. Secondly we wanta show the beauty of strugglin for what youlelieve in. Guess that's why I went. went to talk to kids. Kids went clean ror Gene. That was a very tricky campaign, ya know. If ya had long hair they shoved ya in the cellar lick stamps. Wouldn't let - ya go out campaigning. G0 clean for Gene. Now we're goin' dirty for yippie. -Can't change it out 'der. Reform, re- structure, all those words. Bullshit! Need a whole new pie ;Jl' not just another slice. S'that answer it? 'I-i 92_ J F-r Question: You say you're gonna match insanity of I the system with your own insanity. hat s the difference?! Ha Ha. You think I'll let that hang? I have my own insanity. 5': "R I like it. Boots tit. So I keep doin' it. I don't like I:"-'-¥- . ff:V . 1- 1'] @- -..~~e '92_ _| ' ' ' * -' - - ---¢.-_-- .--- _. .. ,, . __ __ it ._ _r*- i.> : ~-;E|92l' __ . I ! 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Hark Twain sayd, "The only people that should use the word We are kings, editors, and persons with tape worm." You're a long-haired freak. So we illigible! unpopular war here, a second American revolution. You shoulda seen the first one, you shoulda been A--. there. Ours. Most unpopular war in our country's history. Crazy, long-haired, anarchists, minutemen. Up in Lexington, Concord, where I come from. They got British pigs, see, down 91-_. the road, ya know. Thousand British pigs fully armed. Tear gas, mace, the whole hit. They got {illigihle! nine hours late. Paul Revere comes ridin' in on motorcylce, ya know, an I 92, PIGS ARE COMIN', THE PIGS ARE COMIN'. Ya know, "Everybody out." They hay, Ah go away man, I gotta plow the fields. ..v-. *1 No, no kiddin . They're comin'. They'll be here two hours. 1- So they all like get their muskets, go down to Lexington Green, hang around there, Buckins Tavern right across the street, say "I wanta get smashed." They come back, they say, "Hey Revere, you're fulla shit. It's 4 o'clock. They aren't $ here yet. British are nine hours late. They had this J-=1-_ ,4_ -_. Lieutenant Colonel, SMITH, see, weighed 275 pounds and he wanted to ride in front. They were nine hours late, see, so 1 like half the minutemen took off. They had 38 drunken guys standin' around the green there and, uh, see they like very freaked out cause of the, uh, yippie stuff they were pumpin' in the media. An they expected 2,000 armed minute- ' 3?1.. men on the greens so they were like all doin' this, ya know. .--. -.Q'!921. Somebody trips a horse, a gun gets fired, boom, who knows =15 -that. history. Shot heard round the world...Samue1 Adams 1-PK» sittin' there like Jerry Rubin winkin'. Ah, that's cool. '41:; 1." .._. That's cool - they gonna get thek's. They got Washington helluva general. They made him commander in chief bause he F hadn't wen a battle. Up til then. The perfect guy. Failure. i 2'1 That's what Daley said. The illigible! came here to wreck the Democratic Party and rip up Chicago and they failed. That's great. This's the first movement that's gonna be built on failure. You'd call it anything. We love him, he's our founder I mean, where'd we be without him. What would we have done if we were let stay in the park? That's a good question. That's a very good question. What would we have done in the esh park. We promised a lot of stuff. Wow! Beatles and the o~;=a=;3l'4IYellow Submarine an they gonna pull up in Lake Highigan. ?_ {§n§§§§;-An Bob Dylan be 'der. Ooooh. All this stuff f1yin' around. :. 11; ; ,1 ,1 _;_ Z- - Q _ 13 - if ? _ _. ___ _ , .. __...... -. .., .. 1 .. . . ' _ " . ' _ _. _ _. . .=. 1 92 1 - v I . u 92 92 . . 92_-~_ g, r SE 176-21 _ I ' 4 t-s - . -Ii! Well, brothers, this is illigible! to Chicago, see. They didn't get taken. I knew 'datwhen like nobody came up and _ said where's Bob Dylan. He was there, though. See him sittin' up in a tree smokin' pot Sunday night diggin' the whole 3 thing. Ya don t believe me, ask 'im. illigible!, go ask in. He was there. Ho Chi Min sent us medical supplies. H Thanks Ho. We take anythin'. Isn'titgast your bedtime? illigible! I said like if he tried to do my thing I would be forced to. Cause I am it. He should do his own thing. Everybody can, can be anarchistic. We can have a very anarchistic society in the future. Electronic tribalism. That's what that converted Catholic from Canada calls it. Right? Electronic tribalism. Pshew. He's a heavy cat. He sees through it. He don'tdo good. $100,000 grants an all that. Tellin' all the businessmen how to do it.~ But 'deycan't -a figure him out anyway. They - cause they didn't he's right. They didn't get their information. They get it different. That's why it'sgroovy, like dea1in92 with the establishment an FBI. They don't understand what we're 3 talkin about at all. Different language. Different stimulants. Different dress. Different attitudes toward sex, families, the whole bit. Culture. Mao said, I mean w hout culture dull weighted soldiers. So build new culture, You wanna come be in it that's ok. illigible! call up the TV station ask em if you're neighborhood's on fire. More questions? ' Question - could not be heard. Too far away :__ from the microphone.! I .;._ . You want to stand up, identify yourself? 3: Question too far away! ' Q Nah, flower child. Nah. No. It don'thurt .; them, they're people underneath their clothes -are naked just like me. Cops, too. They're naked. But, see, they get.into that uniform, the straights, that's what I call em, straights"cause they, you know, there's straight " collars, an put starch in an straight cuffs an they take the pants n line em down the middle. Those people gotta think straight. Straight jacket. Tey take off their --0-I n VT straight Jacket, they re naked, just like us. I don't id; hate em. Our fight is with the system. ,.-I.r- ';"' r.-"- - J1 ' uestion! - ._...,, . --4' ' E-. 5' _ N0! laughter! Hbtalitarianism to the left. laughter! What ya ask? unheard! Yeah. Have I been to __ - _.L '; ,_T,__,_, __,-' ."'. . 92_ - ' '> -»-'P"?92. - -. . ' r'.§3 - _ -. .. _i. .._.__._ _ .H.,..______'______.. _. :.t..____.._...... _-.. _._____"__,__ _ . ._ _, . _ _..i.._.. _....._92..._ . . _~ . _ a; 1 . - _ , 1. '92 _., _, _ ., _ __ ,i. -- _-; _'-. ~ .=~ ~ - * * 7'7 % _-= " 't"- _--=--i--- - r - _ '.- ' A <~.i£-.=.-- - - ~ - - I . _ 92 -. ._ , ' a - . ;* lo! ._r-'_ x . 1,." an 176-21 _ F.-5. . q Russia or China? I can't even leave the country,'what d'ya I ._',f. mean. I can t get out. comment from audience! 0h, well, ~| first of all Russian, I don't dig that, that's state ' 1 capitalism. So we check them off. My sympathies lie with Czechoslovakian people. They're fightin' in the streets. 0k. Anyway, I just found outIussia's a member of NATO. Now, China I don't know a lot about China it's way out. Rah rah rah. ,S'a1ot of em. Yeah, I get orders from China. My instructions are to prepare the beachhead. May 9, 1970. Cape Cod. They're comin' in. Free chop suey. They don't know if I like it. Hay be I wouldnit. _Who picks up the garbage? Rubin's the other one, he's got a better answer -wt - for that. Umm, the future, the futures undetermined, like, ,- uh, there could be garbage disposals give everybody. Disposal self-destructive food. Maybe we won't eat. I don't know. I mean, if it's of your concern you pick it up. We pick up garbage in the free store. We give out things free in Lower East Side Cilligible! go pick up the garbage. Pick up the garbage. In our communes. No, they don't. Some people leave garbage. It s a constant battle between : artists and garbage collectors. R£ure's out there. Immense *1! - possibilities. You'll learn somethin'. Learn how it can be done. Self-destructive garbage. Garbage! Garbage! Pshew! You shou1d've seen the garbage strike in New York. - Hundred thousand tons of garbage in the Lower East Side. Piles and piles of garbage. Higher than hell. You had PIS this like vision of history, see, 50 years. New York's I destroyed. Historian's right. illigible! went by nuclear 1 attack. People just didn't wanta pick up their garbage. Down it went. Garbage waste product of capitalism. No .garbage in Cuba. 1 said 1:. cuan, right. Fidel. You knowimat he talks about? He said go Cuba Revolution illigible! -abolition of money by 1975. Free phones in Cuba now. Isle -of Pine called Isle of Youth. 20,000 young people with the ' Government support. Livin' free. No money. Pick up bike, drive it down to end of the street, somebody wants it, drive .,_. ' it back.' They work like hell, fuck like hell, they love it. .-9: 90 miles. I know theynaCommies, sure they're commies. They I c can call em anythin' they want. They're doin' it. Tryin'. s .Iend swords. Economic boycott h everything. Russia don't like em much either. I ain't afraid of Russians, rah I don't know that they want this country for. I mean, the Chinese, what'd they want it for. What're they gonna do with us - 10,000 mental institutions in this_country. Pshew. Lot of people. Question unheard from audience! Nb, I didn't say you were gonna stop me, I said that if you were going to try to do my thing pause, more comment from person!. Well, he presented the alternative, he said there's like ¢ your sanity, and there's Government insanity, and , uh, .1 that's choice, and I say well, you can't have mine cause - .92 .. ._ - 20 - ~ - ;.,._ . A .- h_92c O SE 176-21 mine s mine, more comment from audience! Why don'tyou rephrase it a little. I got chromasome damage. laughter! The cops hit ya enough that's where ya get it from. Wha - rephrase it. person rephrasing it.! No! Oh no. 'Dey ain't no yippies. Didn't you know that? Ha! I gorgot to tell you that. It s an exclamation point. Yippie. With an exclamation point. It's a slogan. Der are no yippies. Question from audience! What? Repeat of question! You're gonna put on my boots? Sleep four hours a day, run around the streets all night, £ightin' cops, iuckin'my wife, that's how ya do it. Comment from audience! You want 'dat recipe? Read the book. laughter! Comment from audience! Ah, * Black Capitalism. Smells. Smells like the white capitalism. Sneaky, but it won't work. It's not gonna work. Not gonna accept it. Those kind of programs don't work. But that, that's just uh the view. Do ya believe it? Oh, give me yours. Question! When did I say we? More comment! Oh. More comment! Who's we? He, me and her. I don't know, - I suffer irom that problem, sure. I shouldn't use the word we. I stand corrected. Right. more comment! Uh, well, it operates on a variety of levels. I mean, if ya feel an identification with everythin that's gain on 'dat your folks and newspapers in town here don't, like, I feel some! kind of bond between them. I feel closer bond between my brothers and sisters that live together on Lower East Side -that help each other out of jail, ya know. Take care of _each-other, share our stuff. Feel close bond with em. That s a we._ Does that answer it? Comment from audience! Uh, mostly it's anI. I mean, ya see the whole thing it "turns to art. Ya know, it's just like a painting. A lot of these questions are like very hard to answer. You don't ask Piceaso, ya know. Like, how come you Tonly put one eye fl in the middle of the head. Can't answerit. It just comes _ out. I'm God. That's it. Holy shit. Whoo. Enlightment ' in Spokane. I never realized that. Thanks. Well, s'any 92: . more answers. What'rewe gonna do? What'sgoin' onin this - school. Right, ok. Question! You mean after I get out of jail in thirty years. Continues question! Ah ha! That's good, that's going to be up to you. I mean, what,_what is this, gonna end? Revolution perpetual, like a river. Just "E- flows. BUT! 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' - s 92 on NOVEMBERLAST, NINE -Anvlsm THAT ABBIE ~ }:oFra~:.A.N wouw HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE ATTHE JUSTICE BUILDING 92 . .l AT TI-EREZE P=1"1= T1-LAT DATE, i I 5 A REPRESENTATIVEOF THEFBI OBSERVEDBETWEEN TEE .-i¬TY Y1 ' LTYFWE "HIPPIE TYPE" INDIVIDUALS MILLING AROUIID T1-IE __ 7E i JUSTICE BUILDING ON SUNDAY,FROM ABOUTTHREE TOTHREE - 01" OBSERVED Al92-IDno P1755 , . -',.92';.. .' 4 . ----L - -, 92_ ~ -- I - 92 I x I 3 ' 92 5 1- 92 ' F I , _ U u 1 L r F B I Date: 3 ." ,-__.., ~ A _ T I _ "M1'92 Typep.'n:r:Ic:.'l in code! 0bv Q ' ' IV ' L- Ii or '1"nil A L " * *1 Pn'ari:§J _1 ! vro 120-49753 ' P-. 1 PAGE FOUR i 92 HUNDRED PERSONS. PRIORHIS SPEECH,TO A MOVIECALLED "THEi 92 YIPPIES" WAS SHOWN.IT DEALT WITH THECHICAGO RIOTS DURING THE DEMOCRATICNATIONAL CONVENTIONIN NINETEENSIXTYEIGHT. A 1ABBIE HOFFMANINTRODUCED WASAU . 'PROFESSOR BYGARY ' WEAVER. 92 .., E 92 H IN SUMMARY,HOFFMAN STATED"A REVOLUTION IS GOING ON ,- I?- % I 5. 4 TO OVERTHROWA SYSTEMTHAT ALLOWSTHE TRIAL CHICAGO! GO TO i ON." HESAID THAT ONNOVEMBERFIFTEEN, WILLPEOPLE MARCHTO w TEE JUSTICEDEPARTMENT, "SURROUNDIT, PICKETIT AND PICK IT 92 F!; ___:- 1 J U? AND TAKE IT HOME." ' THAT HOFFMANWAS VERYEVASIVE IN V SFEECH,BUT GAVETHE IMPRESSION THEREBE MAY VIOLENCE ON NOVEMBER FIFTEENNEXT. F J 1 ' . ea I HOFFMAN INDICATEDTHE THAT SOUTHVIETNAMESE EMBASSY, ééé i -:-":;§- i E23, WILLBE PICKETEDON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER FOURTEENNEXT. l ~ "4: 1 ~-_- _-' ' y '_. ABOUT COUNTER-PICKETSFIVE Inn DEXGNSTRATED DISTRIBUTEDx w>- _ __ L --- ! -92 L» -92 } >1? 1-} _,_.:», | llgi->> uf b l '_- :-vu"i 97 f_-C I. 3'1"' .113 C3 1IZ.A192"" . .D1i.'I;92"I.STR.P TIV .- 1'_'l-_ :2LO U1D:1:TS IN .IC"92R_D -'5.LIL OCC § CEEC LOC92.,I I} TE R ISTE.D ll 0 -T-TPl l ' ' xxxxxx xxxxxx iocxxxx -_.i-i-- FEDERAL lllllilll DF IIVESTWITIDN FDIPA DELETED PAGE IIFDRIMTIDII SHEET [I1 Pagets! withheldentirely at this location in the le. One or moreof the following statements.where indicated, explain this deletion. 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The ORIGINAL*o£ this document is tozbeor has been processedin File i Eli 13 ... @l ts For yourinfonnation: ______i ______ The following- number_ HQ is tn be used_ m+for reference =2>~1=- regarding these pages:llb zlcj we XXXXXX XXXXXX l mmx oswrso PAGEISJ no oueucxnou FEE XXXXXX FOR THIS PAGE FDas [Hex 2,-22-an ' { 92 1|. - FBI Date: 12/22/69 Transmit the Iollowinq in _ _r____ Typr in plainlr-xi ur CF30!A _ K K j v1=,_____ ¥"m< Z r_r r_o__r__ _ a______i_ Priority! -92.__ -_-__.¢-¢-.__.--___-_-.¢__-__-.-_-_-.-.-_...-....-.-.--__._ DIRECTOR, FBI 76 311! J mom: SAC, NEW YORK 76-6! __ - <9 PP ! summer: ABBOTT_.H..HOEF'MMl_aka PRINCIPAL sm3.mc'r! - "- ~ - ARI. Dh; 1. _/_=-9 0:06! ReNYai:-tel, 9/14/69, in captioned matter. Enclosed for the Bureau are 12 coniee of an LHM Xi regarding subject'seigpearance the in Criminal Court ofthe , . / City of New York, on /15/69. Five copies of the I.-HM are enclosed for Chicago. . JP-£4!L4/Q. Hi 5* r:Criminal ewed ti on from 12/16/69 . k 92 , / g : 5*? Bureau - 100-M9923ABBOTT RM! ls now? Chicago - 100- 5292! OTT£176-1 §ncLs.5! HOFFMAN mg He-.-: York {100= lieu York / / r_ 2 HowI- or92'-'- 27-4 --.. BY--___ I UL Un92t . 1 - _ /-/,5 - 11 cc Grim.- Y><'»92 * g Div- L 5;, an-;, i Datc Forw-__l. .2-L IIQEC 3369 5 8 Q 4'7/info ' .-J U go; Approved: ___, 6 6, :1 -_,__~__,__ Sept__ M er ___. Special! Aqenin Charge - 92 K ' $¬Z~1tg ,--1 o_ ' l .T92l'l I~.'lJ 5'1 ,-92'l i-£5DI-;l 92l{'l 921I-'.92'l .|l.'ol'l OF Il:I i . Q-of FEDERALBYBEAL orlxvnwncirlox w New York, New York ]nRq®yHmuRdnm December 22, 1969 H~92» Bufile 176-3H NY file 176-6 5-. Abbott H. Hoffman ~ Anti-Riot Laws . - , /-3-f-9'1.,5f-IZJC/Q _ Reference is made to New York memorandum dated September H, 1969. A review of the records of the Criminal Court of the City of New York, Part lBl, Room 221, 100 Centre Street, New York City NYC!, on December 16, 1969, disclosed that the charge of Illegal Possession of Weapons against the subject in connection with his arrest by the NYC Police Department PD! on March 23, 1969, was dismissed by the Court on December 15, 1969, on a motion made by an Assistant District Attorney of the City of New York, based on insufficient evidence to prosecute. D On December 16, 1969, a representative of the NYC District Attorney's Office advised a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that the subject did not personally appear in Part lBl of the Criminal Court of the City of New York on December15, 1969, but was representedby h?s attorney Gerald Lefcourt. The March, 1969 issue of "Rights" self-described as a publication of the National Emergency Civil Liberties Committee NECLC!, on page 12, reported !- that on February 1, 969!, the sactc welcomed Gerald Lefcourt to itsistaff as Legislative Director. A characterization of the NECLC is attached hereto. .'_;' Thisqsnnnenmnn n document Ann contains mam n92n92u92n19292s ENCLOsuw:. {A 1 Abbott H. Hoffman APPENDIX ll nnrxouat emsnerncv CIVIL LIBERTIES COMMITTEE, Formerly Known As Eesrsp cv Gigi} Lib@rii§§,§?em1t!¢9 The "Guide to Subversive Organizations and Publications of ecember 1, 1961, by the Committee on Un-American Activities, United States House of Representatives, Washington, D.C., describes the Emergency Civil Liberties Committee ECLC! as an organization whose avowed purpose is to abolish the House Cenmittee on Us-American Activities, It stated the ECLC was established in 1951, and "although representing itself as a non-Communist group, actually operates as a front for the Communist Party." "The New York Times" issue of April l, 1968, contained an article reflecting the ECLC was changing its name to the National ECLC NECLC! "to reflect our determination to develop a vital national civil liberties organization in - all $6 states as rapidly as possible." The "Newark Sunday News" of Newark, New Jersey, issue of April 20, 1969, contained an article showing the HECLC, oi 25 Best 26th Street, ew York, New York, operates from its office an anti-war legal help organization for draft-age aen, reservists and those on active duty. ;s F, -ga- _. -:4-=1 4- -re-_r. A ' " ' '4- .. . -2!-. I I t . Q 9 * .1 a Fl.¥ i3 Re -. 3-B-67! _Al .,. FEDERAL BUREAUOF INVESTIGATION 1 REPOR{lHGV 92Ol'FlCEOFdIlG92H OFFNZITD-ATE A PEHIED92lNVES l'l.6A l l92l'E TlTLEfDF CA§ECHICAGOA A ACHICAGO A A A A Ilcworr 2/27/70 QuoguvA 2/14 A - A27*/70 "P20 7 av7 -' . pgibll CHARACTERuse orwe A - O i ABBOTT uovmmanorrmm, aka 1 3 A ARL - CONTEMPTOF COURT q¢ -' REFERENCE: Reportof SA ated at2/26/70 Jg Chicago , _ 1 -»- r-H 1* "A"'" . " 1?T'Y§D 1 ENCLOSURE D?-.1- 1-:9-_l'z-".'sp-JIJ6/4a 92 T0 THEBUREAU ! ' _ II - _ ~, ! ,;92- One copyof Final? Disposition Report. -.-in LEAD a-v 1:» _ a , -92 92 CHICAGO on substan vemr CHICAGOL "caéef O1m.11~'o1s. E follow appeals/submitted W111 Ii Accouvusu-msu1'sc92.A|u§£a_ p i comm cunnun convuc.* " Arua.AUTO' " rmzl " iavnmas * ' * IECOVERIES " ' Izuoma TA!-5ovcn om: vznn [:]vzsKjno 3!" 23% _ T L % OV£I92i|xuoM'|'o-15PENDING PROSECUTION- E311: g;'3~= ""° *" °"" no not vmrre ansauces snow LPPROVID | ¢|,qA||g: COPIES MADE: /zzi._az.;zM A /4!- Bureau 76-34! -1 .- 100-449923 i,,_-¢ 45 2 ... New York 00-1614 16 tau»-Q-4°?" 2 - USA, Chicago D; _- --p "" rt ; 2- Chicago 16-28! v¢- ____--- qfo 7.1.-'_> -1,-..;' J : Dincvnlnoiion Rlcofdoi Allocl-mi Report, igcnty ,"5 »9i O I'll I , of '- - O A ' _|,,,y~ How fwd. . J lgunlggv IIIIIIIIarncl 1 NI ! G-I'D It , - L1-. 0 J04 nit] s 1; .- "4'?I_.-Ti *1-QiJ" 92_Q_P'Oi-7' 3 " ..----._--.------=--I-_' - _ 4-1- -_ ¢_92;.-1" -..,,_.___ 1- :."- _T .. - ~ -~ _- '--- - _ ....i.L»-'.-o-1 _ ._ -1 92__ F ' 92 I I cc 176-2s ADMINISTRA ' TIVE Count XVI in Certificate oi Contempt was deleted by Judge HOFFMANduring court day because of an objection made to that particular item of contempt by Attorney LEONARD WEINGLASS. .<' 1 4 :4 ? i an- p.| 1 _ Be _ COVER PAGE ."J".?%' -_.'~'-.~1 .,¢. .''92-. - .., J. --_--_'--w-- .»- .__.-_.-92,_,-.v_Irn.-92_-. 92 rg,-1,--_--_;q_ ,_I I'll! -ZQII H8! J I'D!! 92 I U _ _| s 92 F 1 UMTED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUs. ICE 5 FEDERAL BUREAU or INVESTIGATION I 92 . - Copy lo: ? v IP03 Bf: 2 - USA, Chicago G 1 D810: 4 mi i L Field Office File I: _ U _ Omu= Chicago 2/ 27/ 70 ' ' Title: 176-28 Burnnu Flio I: 176-34 I ABBOTT HOWARD HOFFMAN 1 Cborocim I l _92A___ Li r 92 ll Iv . - ' I- ' - =3 sy bp n: ANTI RIQT LAWS - COHTEHPT CF COURT --h On 2/14/70, HOFFMAN was found guilty of 23 separate criminal contempts and committed to 92 custody of Attorney General of U. S., or 4-. ' 2' his authorized representative, for period ,.. of B months. Judgement and Commitment and p F I--I ?-Inai-4: n-F "nut-nmn+ nnf 'Fn1-+11 . .. v ....-..-.-...-.- -...... V...... -re -..... --1- -...- 5. .- - U. J. 1'. My -I /1 ./ _ / an all "ft ;._ I J Cr --up --.- DE TA a1s- - ¢'92..| = Q; On February 26, 1970, Assistant United -8. ates attorney AUSA! HICEEAEL HASH, made nvaiinble the following Judgement and Commitment and Certificate fa.!- of Contempt pertaining to United States of America v. Iv-2" . ABBOTT H. HOFFMAN: ' _ "5. _ _. - 1 - .7 FQ -----1 » 92 IR '.I1£EIIITITFZD $1 -*'92T3'*ISDISTRICT CGJRT FOR THE 17031311311! DISIRICT CF ILLITOI-'3 1T.2Ps§ I i T!TV_iTii@ii UNITED ST! -1'13OP A:-ERICA ex rel. Judge Julius J. Foi f*.na.n - v. no. 69 ca 180 mm 11. mom-mu _ 3 I 2 491199?- TTtFE!BA§¢£:?1I7=-'*- T - ":7 On this lhth day of February, 1970, the defendant, Abbott -i ii. Hoffman, appeared 5:;ii f , *'- '1z1sa, Leon- M" was v -- .-J .11 to I P 0 r --| =5-J -I-1 ', - -'-- *__ I IT I8 AI3OUD.. T1"-D thatthe defendant, Abbott H. liofrmsn, has hem zfouud.guilty of twenty-three 3! 1nd.192r3.cl1.1a1"and separate criminal. contcmpts asspecified in the Certificate of Contempt and as stated on this date; end the Court having asked the defendant, Abbott H. 1 Aw on speci cation III 7 dsqra on speci cation IV J, dmr on specification V i 1 dqr on apccificction 1 day on speci cation VII f -I .____1.o._ __ __.__ _ B £1 2 IDOIIUJB On Bpciz vi ' - ' c . J. day on specification IX ' , '3 ..- -ice1:ion 3! 9 t . Q § ' I qualified ot cer and that the copies serve as the connitment of the defendant. ESTER: __ -- _" ___ . ~? __ <,- -F :-f_ - 4__ ~_*_? UIII'I'ED 8'1 . M18 DIQTRICI JUDGE - - 'm'm W ? H F I - 1 1 5* the Court recmmcnds ccmniincnt to a. place desigmted. by Q. the Attornqy General. . ' CI.I§1tt**:;;*U1i I;T*3ii:s'"Ii92i'*'s§'; nr r fér 1 92 -4 I I 2-3 92 . ,5--.-, ; 92 L ' ¬ Oh! 1 92 92 'l.1TTIT£ D STATESDISTJCT COURT NORTi5J!1 I DISTRICT O1 ILLINOIS l3r92S"1'1'11Ii DIVISIOII v I3I11'1'£D STMIESOF A}-ERICA ex rel. Honorable Judge Julliua J. Hoffman 4 Y8: I10. CR ,£ J I-ILQQTT H. HGFFI-1-92N 92 In conformity with Rule 1.201!, I- ederol Rules or Criminal Procedure, 13 U.S.C., I here-by certify tmt the series oi cz'1min::.1 .= -_-~ conteeaptn set forth below uere ccrrnittcd in the actual presence or the court and were seen or heard by the court clurim the trial of --.- the cc:-;.eof United States orAmerica Davidv. T.Dellinger, at111., 69 CB 150, which commenced onSeptember 21+, 1969. -in This woo a cane marred by continual :11sn.~pt.'we outburstsin direct defiance of Judicial authority by the dcrendonta and defense co'.m:se3..will I npecify here the instance: of conduct of record which I consider to have been canto-zxgtuouzz,but I oJ.oa mo. .:.e the entire record. of the case of United States or America v. David '1'. Dellinger, 2 ct 0.1., 69 CR 180, a part of this proceeding. - i a ' S 1 I-mch of the contemptuous conduct in this cane does not show, /" of record. The constant nuzmnu end miokcring emanating fro;-1 the 1? inn *9! P_"~ - . I5.L- 1 U 5 --..--..._-.e..-,....._ - A...... - .._-. .,,._ ,92; ._.__,_,_ !,,._.,_,,....-. I ' . ' l_ 1 defense table were not captured on the printed page. I-Io record, no matter how al:iJ.1 uJ.1,v transcribed, eon adequately portray the venom, scream, and tone of voice employed by a speaker. Bo record, no matter hear akilfx ly transcribed, can mlequately reflect the applause, the 5u£ fm:s, an-1 other subtle tactics employed by these eontczmors in an attempt to break up this trial. I have not focused on these cheap theotrics, hietriouiee, and cffeetotions. I n Ote hh m for the record lest z-4'eileme be cor.-.==tr=_=.cr1am Q-pro-.m.i= Bet for the seize oi the citations of eentcrqrt in this cause, I 111-.1 t myself to that conduct i which is clearly an-.1 c eqnntehv portrayed in the record. I Bits was a long trial. The belmvior err the defendants and defence counsel was prepared with direct on-.1 defiant contempt for tho court and the fecleml Judicial system as a -.-hole. Here is a record Of exceptional circ92merta11ces iiaichwere c -.isru;pti.92.-eof the proceedings. 1 "a It has been W considered ,1u:!;;~.cnt throvgh-out thia ease that the 3 ' r bob:-vior of the defendants ace aimed at baiting the Judge and inciting and he:-eae% the United statea Attorneys in an attempt to stop the trial. I would have been derelict in w duty ca e. Federal District '_.- Judge if I were to permit such bane and unethical tactics to succeed. u I Gonecqqentlv, I have waited until this trial van concluded before -92_ .,_ '- ...-92-1..._. _ .0-I..- - ...... :.... Int-lung, u mu ion of come"-..,.t. "'-..-.=cedgencie r 1.53;; owl- $5- cmplex and difficult ease Ccmpellnd meto renew time ecu:-ac. ' » q, I ¢ ' I 0 } 1 ; I- I on Be-pteubcr 26, mm; the opening statezzent by the Gmrc~:m- nout, defendant IIc1'I':r.a.n rose and blew a kiss to the Jmwa. Tr. 9! £ I I J -up R 3 I O 1.- i ~»' _|..__. .- L V ' -1.1 7 I I ... ¢ - I-H - -.. vi .-.92-@-,vq~v_~ -- 2 _. 92___ r II. On October 23, well after the date of the Court .-.1 ordnr aequester5.r;»;: the ,1m'_92,'oz-daring theand Jun that they may see no newspapers, the écfen ant liamnn held up u ncwspagwr so the jurors might see the headline in the courtrocm. The fo1.1m:1rg caJ.1oquy occu.~:-real: _ "rm. 8Ch'UL'1 Z:If the Court please --. MR. 1¬UIJSTL3. i: I would rather be directed. EB. if-C 11'ULT2-:Before you direct him, if you are got-3 to direct 1-11*. Kwmstler,I would like to make one observation for the record. At 12:30 this morning or 12:30 curly this afternoon, when the Jury was mkjourned, after the 3m:-y atood #1 up, zlcfcnd.-mt Ilofman -- in fact, he had the sane article that he has in bent of his there -. RR. Yes, i waa going to show it to - ,-_- Hc led. up the newspaper for than to see r- KB. 11$. -Y I* »"-.¢. H:It ain't a newspaper. It is the Berkeley .. . .. he it .*.:.=n !.= e..13!!!- .-!-_'= !'>1A'p92 ;! = rt "*."'= I:- r | L I v started to talk when another lawyer was npc:.92k1r.g,Mr. Kunstlcr, I told hm to remain quiet. 1.':r.r,can I direct him to remain quiet. The Lmitcd States Attorney was szpeakina tothe Court. Ile is entitled to be heard Just as you are entitled to be heard. We are not runnizzg a circus. This lmppens to be 0. court -- even tizsugh there are those who don't chumviews. HR. YZb'II5TI£IP.:I would suggest, yaur Honor, then, that Hr. iiof nan be perzittc-6 i:-0 re:.'po:.1c'1and not be iniicrruptéci - THE COUFJI : I will not hce.r frcm your clients. rm. sic.! 2-IR. ac:-"I-'1-ms:I mu". 5.1:-,1; trying to be helpful, your - Hannr. T_T$'COU£'£1 :will not hear I from grcrur client. I will let 24:. Schultz rum. his obncrmtiozi. Tr. 3,666-67! I ! < Q :9-" _ __ - 9 d l III. On October 28, at the close of the session, the defendant Hoffman I Efl.l..1| C<1 to rise in the custazm-.z'y an.-mner 1.-hr.-n directed. to do so by the 218151331. Tr. 11,618-19! i In- C G 1 R. 92 in On October 29, the f0L1.o;1ing colloquy occurred: T413 COLRT: I 1:111 ask you to sit down, sir. You have E a. 1u:»¢;,'er to speak for you. I haven't been told that you reprecent u..u.' of th-we 6.ei en< umt:."-, either. MR. lIQFFIi'921I: He have been told that they are defendants, {chm 1"- - l . I 0?JxH: I-lay the record. show that that was the defendant '92 llof rzan who made that .- / TH13 COURT: Yea; yes , F. MR. I- WAII: The previous statement wee made by the defendant Dellingger. EH3 COXIRT: me last statement was mad: by the defc-ndant _Q Abbie llorfmen. FR. 1!O .FE'§-tklf : I don't use that lest name anymore. mm come: 11111 you remain quiet. % 140639! *5 .1 I "'4 O 92 11 I L - v. '_ 'e close of the norning séasi n 6: : Wtcber £9, the dafcndant tiaffrnn rcfuncc . to rise in $11.»' t cus om:u'y manner. Tr. 11,733 #3! i --r *1. ,.|/ ! -I r;-r .- 12 if On Gctobcr ,_'9, when he Court xms urn-grv: "me a zernaon 515519?- -» -1 -'=" to 1-inc an the canto: £111 1==m1 *°l" Tr u' n l I -gunman: 1l$_nnr92lc:n._ _- _ N =_ w i ,1. ,__ ssh? -1!-F" K. k Ix. 1 ' on Octob=." r 30, after a brief. 1-cccsa the Judge return:-G. to the bench in the afternoon and the dcfendzmt llofman again refused to P5-BB I in the cmstamry narmcr. fr.c 5:853! u 7 92 1 4 . -1 -+ v . E 1 . /' 0 - $4 0 in cl Q K B I. On November12, the defendant Ilofman am} the other defendants openly 1110511011at the Judge while he wan making :1.ruling. The fo1.lo~.r- inf; colloquy occurred: Y'all; COIRT:That observation will remain on the rc-cord and this loud .'i.n.u{;ht'.erhas got to cam-ze. I-IR. HQ- I-'1-mi:I-Zr. Heinglaze, how many years do -you have to laugh at? I- t. 1'-.'EI.I?GL*=.S$:I would further want to -- I-ill. ll - Fbli is I rm talldng to my lawyer. Tn 6,25'r~59! D '4-.'..¢' _,-_ ,_.92 17 K. II» 1 On November26, after the Court zmde a ruling the folluwim 1 colloquy occurred: "HE COURT: I decide eaelx motion on ita o".-m papers, air, and I am not aware of any witnesses that the Gmrernmcnt has srougiat ::1c.! to bring here. I don'tknow whether -- 2-EB. I3OF5 I& =1¬: dc are very confused about this. Is the .-n_92 92 Go-.mrn~r.ent goingto pJ: Bs£'n'bour defense as well as our -_ prosecution? - 531$ COL ;1 Have you gotten that - what is the name of I that ntercndant epeaizing? 92 ? I-Q. 1IC§3* 1- MAR:Just Abbie. I don'thave a last n-me, .._. < 92 Judge. I lost it. We ea-.n'trespect the law when it's 92 1 W; tyrmmy. 11113 COIJRT:Are you able to hear the nlefendant Huf umx if92'J ' am.near:-an: ».m>1¢. §!_T_.Tl>C; 1'E~..__R; Zea, gr." '1:-. 8,061! 0 .=.._-»92 HQ 92 92 I 1 92 | 11 XII» - On December15, the defendant Ho ."1.'.1nopcnly 1a92-92s:.h¢=1 at th~'= IQ 92 Court cluring its ruin; on a motion, and azbzitted it. 92 | -. f xv "HR. IEOITP:-i"3 i was iavghing. '21-._ 1.1,181! i i .--. 92 92 M H J l l 92 /" '92_ "'1- 44'--u-4__ E I £ - XIII- On Dz-coo.-.ber30, while the defendant Barman wastestifying on cross examination, the f0]-1O.fiI . co11.oqu;roccurred: "ms COURT:I will admonisla themy -- the Uaited Staten D ii- ME HITIIEISS: H.-zit until you see the movie. THE COURT: -- if it is rcqnhed that he be admonished- IHIB BITIHISS: wait until you sec the movie. T183 COURT: And you be quiet. IX 15IEiFI1 P1'S5:-- 1-rel]. the movie's goingto be better. THE 001113. :Did you got that Last, mm Reporter? _-- TIIE RII ORTZ-3: Yes, air. -1- BIB COURT: The last ::ord.': spo!senby the witness on the atand. Tr. 13.013! ' 1 *2. - A J v .r T . -1 _ - T L '1 20 ax ! On January 9, the defendant Ilof~ ~.anopardy laughed at the Court :~g;:.i41. Tn: 1 aJ.Lo'.:i~:3collnquy o cm-red: '7-E. H amount of ?IUIESTL'= . I~ hmor 92-men talhirag.your about O11, Honor, a. bo.1.h.'ocxa th~re in a -cert-.a.i.n 'J. 1{E C0182 :Oh, I knm that is your f:~..rorite reply ll rm. 1551'-"£1-1131*1 laughed, too." _,_. 11> ,B2h »1 l J I 92 H ll _ -P -"4: 1 0 .-in-;w I -__@-tq 92 i 92_ XV. On January1%, there was a:;ni:'1am excessive and obnoxiousout burst 9.1. 1 r-u <;ht-er_ the tabla of the clefcndmzts. Hmfollowing colloquy mzcurred "rm. Y-L HSTL!l'l:I Just don't wantto get th1'O92mmy in chair by the msu~c1m.1:;as I will. have to zit doam, butI Just don't thin}: it is fair to :10 that. i HR. IXCE- Z'"2-L *.II:I J.:192:,5h&d u.rIya.=ay. a HIE C0131 : mu you be quiet, Hr. ~- I-53. IICI1='£- 3&A1:I Laughed. It wa.sn t Jerry, it was ac. TEE COUR21 :Did you get that, 3-Eiaa Reporter? 151, }i ?FLiA1I:At that rulimg. I l:m.[;hec1- mat was I-£1 . Bcllirger. HR, K!JII.'J'ILTR:Tint was not Hr. Dcuingazr. 121., SCHUI.'1 2:.Your Honor, that was Mr. Herman. RR, KIJIISTIJZB: Your Homr -- HR. scmmrz: $2mt was the defendant Kai f92-mu speaking EB. iii>F'FI-iii?!I was nan. _ wr-,15.581! < ..»- v - '92 4 5 ! XVII. ".-'1 1 On January 21st, the d.c£cm1n.nts wereconéuctim a conference i with one of their :rt.o1 1 "numbers"at the dcfcncc table, while > Hr. Foran '.:n:: ui:-f.cnptil'L _',to speak. Tno conference was loud cnougjn ii to cause tho i'. ol1o.:@rlistm-boncc: 92 "HIE I-MRSEIAL: Excuse me, Hr. Poran. 92 92 dill you Emu: your seat at the table, please. 92 92 HR. He ;-Q or5:92..nicir=.g1;-be rloi @oe. 92 THE I-ihRSH.'92L:Toke your neat. How, come on. HR. !£C£"E':-i:".1'I:She's onthe staff. I593 w*.R. 1. IAL:Mr. Kunstlar, talking is not -- 1'1: asking him B0 take his seat. MR. 1£1Iii.2T1£.. ..:I 6.0n' know what he was doing. 1-Io com --u- he was talking to his wife. 3&1. IZOI-Ti-1-'92.II:.We cm talkin,-1r, in n. lo: voice. Ilc didn't ._ even hear. 'i'llZEBaa COLIRT: dc£'cnd:mt'a plncc at, the trial is at the 4!n'1 cnd:mtn' talale. ]-21. II0.PFR-t- GI: He wore 1;-nlking -.. - ' A mmwrmz mt. our staff .-.11. at the mm, c-venrthing W - l '~92 92 Vbvl be nii a-ig nt.. -1!r 92 _92 '92 11 23 92 _i HR. KIJ';'.IS'J!L l'{Your Honor, he was sitting, Just talking 1 nuictlv1'-""'-v 92-.-11:.h ' '*hi" "-"Q w-ire : who in put of our std? ' THE COURT: I know. I knm: what he-'0doing. I require -- the rule of this court is that the dcfcmlanta sit at the J dc1 c1:d.2n$3' table- Mfi. H01?'I Z-fJ ~.II:110;! <10 we orgzmim the trial ! 1 £1113 C0131 : I cm-3. Q1- Hr. Iloffman to sit at the :11:-I cni1nt::' table. 92- MR. L O3-'1- M/ .11:OE. We can just twi fro: lmre. E-ii-U don _l you go out and ta z to Paul I-Imssner and get the dcforme T 1;o,;et-hcr- 1 I don'tsee how we can prr.-pare the defense. We ha-W .-q- H to sit here seven days in 1 92 T1-., 16,791-92! + ! i v ul I 24 I'I" I P- 4. | 92 J. I 92 Q :1 92 xvm. ' , 92 On Janna:-_y23, 92-mile Hr. Fomn earl Mr. Dc-llinger were engaged in o colloquy, 1-Kr. 1ioi Q'saninserted the following ream-ks: l92 92 "Mil. F03.- ii: Your Honor, in the hmcrie.-m ::y::-ten there 192 92 is a proper way to raise such issues and to correct thcm. I-E1. DBLLJIEILI: That was the proper way with Fred Hampton, 92rns'n'tit? -...- ---gm 1".-H»;-1 Lop I-'l92ou--1|.-nAnn.z92cn '' an currcu I-51 _" ' I; ywu-r L|.U1l.U.L',v; uu.=p1.u',_A-l»" -1- aim! goverrzncnte.1 :.-_=,'r.=tc::|,there is anda proper veg. to do that. ' _JI i IE1. I!0F'.F7-1'81:Correction the was you handled the war in v-2 Vict Ham, the some proper -- Tr.17,376! Shortly thereafter during the same incident a discussion ensued concerning the propriety of Hr. Ku.nst1cr's-press conferences. I-tr. i again intcrjcctcrl his ccraentz. It's reportedas 1 oJ.1ow.':: 1 . HE COURT: Yes, there is a law against a. lawyer - 5% J HR. IIUE F3-WI:The Juzlgehacl an interview in 'i i-ac Magazine. 15.8 COURT: A lawyer on television discussirg the case. HR- L...KU11. 3 1 I1: c's havewhat I said that van false. That was the accxmation. l W COURT: I will ask you both to nit down. I I- .3. I102 !- :i»'J¥:'i hc Judgegave an intcrvicw £0 The 1-iagazine. And I will inatrzzct I-22'. 1-Icinglnusto continue -u- with line rlircct caumination of this wii i s. '1 r._ H.379! ._-._ X I . I {X-< H <1 Ia-=..'1 0 1 J ! _ XIX. Q 1 On January 30, at the conclusion of the court's nezoion,tho 13-mu"; asked the 1~.~:u"t!.es and a.tt-era-237'sto stay after gory L1-1'11.booo I I1 excused. '.i noCourt than broached the subject of the propriety of the 1 1 public ::p:-cchco Eivcn by the dc:I cm1m1ts. iihile this discussion was . going on 111-. liofihan 12;;-'11n insertedhis rr:r.::u*1;:s |3ro£u:1tousJy. The incident is rrzportcd m 1 oJ.1o~.c.. "BE COU £'l'zI cm not going to be put on the ;;ric1éJ.e about it. ow you arc tho lwyor. You are one of the lawyers for the defendants. Ami I thin}: it in wholly inappropriate for d<:i cnd.-mt.-: in a crixainzxl case to make the 1;i.n:1 of apoechth-at aim! uas zmde andtho matter of boil goes beyondmere protection for the Go92'crn>:1r:ntthat the defendant appear. {lead the book-_ MR. WI§I1'{G1='92S3tBut I 6.0 not. M11113the-matter Of bail 92 92 92 92 '92 ! It--~'n~ Y . M 9292 92 I quiet their clients during thia trial when they we out, not once in four and a h:xJ.i nwnths, not once." '1 r- 19,091+-1-rms! *1 1 I F , -. 1 1 ,- a- K" 92-. D.-I. L QR -i92 . 9292 92 92 92 , XI. M 9292 1 On February 2, the Court had. r .ctc'm.ined. ergmnentthat on a -92 p:'_1:"biC921laJ'had beenqueation ccxqaletcd. The Court nctnoniehcd , 92 Hr. Kxmstler several tines to sit do.- n aod. desist 1n1.'$1-111'92.'Z- ue 92 Court had previoz:-':1:{ orderedthe rlefcmzxnts and their c.ttoz'ns;,'sto not mention the 1 :-.ot that the fomer Mztorncy General of the United States, Ramsey Clark, had been cxeluderl by order of the Court. Fr. Hofman made severe-1 CC::n1Qn1;B after the Court had inclicated argument was completed,he and violated the Court :order concerningthe Attorney $ Geziernl. She record states: "EH11 CC?1.. 'ti':You sit clam, sir, or we will arz~an;;e to have youput dorm. ' 1- -R. HOFR-LAII:Are you going to gag the la:-rycr::, too? =1 92 It VOICE: Clminerl to the chair --- -1- I 92 I-18. IIC-FF!- if You don'thave to gag the Jury, because /- they haven'tbeen able to ace our witnenses. ' "'n_.. TEE COUPE: That van Hr-. 1Io£i'rr.nthat node that remark, - 92 His: Reporter. HB. IDES :-1.'.II:1i. he past Attorney General of the United . States, RamseyClark --" Th 19,159! - F, Y Inter in the day, the defendant Hoffman interrupted the Court g . n-I- .0 ' a 92 I20 ::w.?1': the 1 o1J.o'.:in;; sarcastic rcrm k: cum com: 10.1 I have to repeat to you, 2-:1-. Zliunstler, is that I knaa you practice in the Southern Iiiatrict or He : York. I have practiced the:-c a iot as n. iwzycr before all of the than District Judges. I ncvcr saw - MR. 1E£E F5iAIi: 92-fhcn it was umler British control." :rr-19,199-200! ' - -n ,- -3'... ._.- --I. - II ; '92 30 l_ _! X71. On Fem-u.1.-y 11, duri.r.;5, the cross examination of the witness Phillips, Hr. Kurmtler was examining. the witness coneeniina the witness concept of how hippies dress. During that ineiacnt, Hr. Hoffman got up zuul dancecl urounzl, lifting his shirt and b:=.2";1ng - his body to the Jury, and engaged in antics designed to make light of the testis"-oar; of the sritnesrs. The incident is rc-ported on follows: "Q You are the first one that ha-en't irlenti czi M2. Hoi i m:m.!This is I-Zr. Iioffrnn over hore._ Ibex-ewas Lemziuter in the eourtrocxa.! TILE CULI31 : Int the record show that Hr. Hoff :-an atood up, 111 . t<:d his shirt up, and baa-ezl his body in the presence oi the Jury -- I- JR. I'IIJ313 i * Your Honor, that is Ht . Hoi 1 r.:a.n'z: way. .-_ BIB COUPE : - dancing around. . 'iher0'92:as1.n.ur; tcr in the eourtrocm.! ' ! 1-B. KUEISTIER: Your Honor, that is I-Ir. I!o£ 1 .:mn n vac, - l COILE: It is u. bad. my in a com-tram." U O I _ _ Q $3 . 1415111115, my question before we had the little co11oqv;r hm! to do with -- to 1-, --r Q0 Q1 _¢_ ,1 TAB COURT: It was not a. little colloquy, that was li8J".$.ll3110. -. 192u:.n 1-u-. 1.;-$.11 improperto for con nci:in iiie courtroom. I BY I-LL 1§UZ3'3TL'JBl 1 Q, Before Mr. Ifonhen wzus tolzcnto t..:u1kfor imprcrpcr caniust Ln the cQu.::'tr1;>o, aim! I cslzccl you -.~hc-tin:-rhe was in hippiedress. D H3. 1101-TSKAII: mat-Joulcl aim! r.:c. mam. 1 T7-'16?~2"-ta ! 19: 92 M =92 L .._1 '/ 1 - ¢ 7-r... J- ---0-v_92 92 Q .. Q E * 1 JOCII '92 m On Fcbru.'u-'3;h, at the end or 1:11.."'session, L -he C tidicted our n n '92 Q that it hm! zlctcmins-.1 to revoke the boil cf the defendant Do1l1r:5cr- In the uproa1' uhich1 o1_lo'-.'::c1 dzcinion thisHr. IIO r..".n Rm-<12the follow- /! ing remarks: I WE. IIGFE-iF=.?F:You nré a di::;;rc-ca ix: the Java. Yam woz a hfnre served Hitler better. Dw it. "MR. 1IO'5 "£'£i- J3:I heard you ha-1cn t let az:;ybody free in tour years. & 1nt'u right,stop me." '1-IR. 116l~'5 1~1.'92H:They we all our cases. Ho are bnilina that guy out and every my that gets arrested. -1 92 "MR. HOE - W».H:Ho spectators uhile they put than in Jail. r 1 t._-, 9 < - .QI I 33 _ -. <_ 1 20:111. | On February 5, after the Court had decided. not to rcinst-.tc N I Hr. D121_].ingc1:"$boil, Fir. lcloffucn zzndc the i o1_ Lo'.=rin.grc::1o.r};n in the outburst which ensued: "Wt. HOF'J: £-£121:Your idea oi _ju.stice is, the only obscenity in the room. You ochtmk! V0 don! Sh.-mzio fur de 3053'-:1! Obviou::l:{ it was 0. I~ro':c~c=:.tion-'I"'.1c.t's it baa why gone on he-re to:1.a;rbecause you threatened him with the cuttirq; oi his freccisn of spa--zchin the cgrcech hc gave in 1211'-mulzcc. i:: 21L :T: 1%:-.I -ia1 :':E1£=.l, you the .4 Hoffman to -- "1- = "FT-= T- ""921'¥''.I.'szis 1;-hr: ci_=1 *l; Eli:-oncL;:_:'c1. Ci-ab, TIIS !~L92R$IML: I-tr. Ilof aan -- na- HR. 1IC1.'= 1?ti=_".II: E1, tell bin to stick it up his boulimg, ball. How is your won: stock doing, Julie? C You don'thave may pea:-:-2'. Macydidn't» have0.11, ; power _'in the Third Reich cithcr. ' THE COURT: S-111.1. youask him to nit cr-m, Hr. I-!a.r::.hc.].? BE I-L'92.P..?~1I.-'92L:3-1: . Hof aon, I om o.s1d.r=g youagain to shut up. ' I-IR. RUBIN: Gcotapo. 92 . HR. IIGF'E H'92H:Show Mn your Jw. Show bin a. J15. Ho ain'tnever accn a gum". uni-2..' , 92 "1-sn. 11crs'm~.1-I:Mics van do:-Rohc was 1 Kraut, too." X Tr. 19,803! ' "1-$21. HOE- Fl-1-92li:You knowyou cannotwin the fucking case. ,-4 ooly you can is to for oootoo-:pt. --*I r contempt for this court, end for you, Schultz, and for this whole rotten s;rstt':92. That'sthe only justice. That is -.:b,_v the went this because they c:~.n'tprove this fucking; ease. 1 '1:-. 19,203-0*.! "1-I2. lzom-oar: You put hm in 3:111 becauseyou 1¢=.~tr.-um ._,__- in the Jan ; system. I hear you hm.-en'tlost n ease before a. ,1u.."y in21» tries. Only the Frebiozen people got away. He're > . bus .-. .. "14 ;to .. 5».-f...... u.uu_y, -_ "92ivu» ...... -:..- u.-uy youno ihzuwing ...- __. --_us _ in _ r we this way. ' 92 Contempt is c tyr:~...~n-:;,rof the court, and you are a. tyrant. T!1.'.>.t'awin; we don't respect 11:. It'lltyrant. o. mi ; 1 Tr. 19,811+! _ "53. 1'-I$ Tr.= !~L*J:I:The Judgesin 11:11.1Geimrmy ordered sterilization. Hm don't youdo that , Judge 1Ioi :mn?" Tr. 19.8.15! L ' I rm. 11cm:.»*.1':=110, I 1.-on't amtup. I .=.~.1n'tan 1 automaton like you. I £.on't wantto be a tyrant and I dnn't care for a ty'r:mr.ico.lsystcn. Best 1 :-iend the blzzcka ever '11 had, huh. Ho -r ::'.:*.:92yblacks are in the Drake 'I owors?How may are in the St:u'u3::.rd.Club? Haw r.:a.ny own stock in Brtzmsz-rich Corparcfaian? Tr. 19,816-17! And Inter in the <1a.yl-ir. Ho ;~,:~_n, at the and of uh: session, made the arl iiion cam-sent: _ 1 "2-E1. 11031 ?-9.1?: It vas every nan. Je'J.J. see you at the 1 St-anzlard cm:-, Julie." ..-4 1 Tm 19,877! _11 11 -1 I 11 _1 1-21 1 ,.__._E92 V I 36 . I 1- XXIV. J On I= ebz-nary6th, in the presenceof. the J21-y, thedefendant 5*? llofihnn attemptedhold. to courtthe toqa ri'. *.1cu1c by enteringthe 4 courtrocm in _-§».~.a1¢1¢>.1 Tr. robes 19,$38! which helater rumoured,threw *4. to the floor mi used to wipe his feet. / w""" I-..,.p Y-'="'v 1. V -,- .0 l 37 . 1" Accordingly I hereby zuijuagc the defcnctmt Abbott H. Iiorfmn guJ. "1ii§f Oi the several ir~.:ii-.':'92.'2-...4._-'1of direct criminal qvccifications contempt cnwncratcd above. ii Z J U D G E 132:" W *; . E :;il'.1 3 92 -1 / i é 38* K A 1 FD- f 392Re92-.42'- 19-57? " ' 1 : .-- ...'. '' I l FEDERALBUREAU 'OFlNVk:STlGAT|.ON_ REPORTING QFFICE OFFICEOF ORIGINE DATE INVESTIG-l I'92qE FEIiQVD E 1.-1','T|TLECLSE inzwonrT CHICAGOCHIC.=.GO OF M '2/26/70 Lune 7 2/20-26/70 KavV K EV K l ABBOTT0 HOFFMAN,E H01-:nR1J [CHARACTER pi oraka 51¢ case EE E " we ARL - CONSPIRACY I I, 0 ml-r12.m:1: :1:=¢f s.»ii-eted Repo1;t 0/17/69, at Seattle- Q-I -Q- -- -"""' PB /7 -57- m.2/ m:"1.osuR;:s TOBURE.-.9 3 copiesof Parole Report one and copyof .. ;- 9292Final Disposition Report. 11 92Z "' ,92. 92 c_ .. 92F 1". - LEAD ll _ . . " ' 7 B _..l-. 4 cm92GO ' '1 - :1- p11- __ 9!-9'4" /~- M- Q AT CHICAGOLILLIIIQIQ. follow Hill appealssubmitted on this case. y-1 E... u-v - E Ep p 7* plAccouP1.|snmEpN1'spcLAmEp Acoum cnzuu m muoui 1 mnvmas' K ' necovzmca' ' W vcnomcovsn TALS onJ can [x]v:s [jun CDNVIC. LUTO- FLUG. EINEI7 nzumuc Pnosscunon $5,000 ovzn an:noun-la @115 [:10-no ",,fLI. ;, , §§"'t , , W no not _ was-reuu snces snow IPP RD WED __..._-_1- _ _. __ .. COPIES MADE: , 92 » l #1: 19%, I--3 Bureau 76-34! G3 New - 00-449923! rk 00-161445! '° "W USA,E1 I Chicago - Chic 1116-2s ,___.""' Q camel A !§- _._- _'._.-:7 .- §_. 3| ' 92. _>- W K V uominiu onRecord Al]£_¢|'92OI ol ___~*_ Roper! A Kgencry T ljliqscstrf E I "51 J5 ti _ ; - % §92Q/7{& !@ é DH r 7 070 moo-an-m ID-II II-I ' P _ _~ "<= , 1 - 92. CG 176-28 ¬_ .'|' e ADMINISTRATIVE § the characterChicago RL will- Contempt submitof a separate Courtin which report subject'sunder convictions for C0ntempt 0 court, and sentences imposed a wi11.be reported in full. Subject is serving sentences 2 imposedunder contempt of courtstatute andthis su stantive statute concurrently. .-_,g Copies of this report are being submitted to -e -5 New York, the office of origin in the security matter co SQ -2: -_ ; 5':*92 --u 5 P 1{92 Q p-' |II I -'V V. |A -_- -._-.4 ; ¢ -B*- s WE R Pl ; GE u ! ______,- _--.-.»- U -. -*'-' III» rn-204 Rev.3-3-59! t_ 92 'e ' _ , _ - . . _ . T , _ H _ ' . UNITEDSTATES DEPARTMENT 01- JUSTICE - ' FEDERAL BUREAU or" INVESTIGATION f _¢_ < 1 ¬¢|wro= 2 - USA, Chicago "W" 55°'= O icu CHIC~G0 /' rma umcfru. tr. "175-23 ,,,,,,,, F", ,, 176-34 TlIl¢= ABBOTTI-ION.-t1iD HOFF1-L-.N 4 -en . r- 1 '92""',1'a' :!. ;.-D 1'- [_'!i' T .1.".H."_ H,_,__. ., .. ~ | -K-.---If. ».j" . _,_ W . 1 92_.'-It--. I Cherecler: ANTI-RIOT1..;1¢s- LIJNSPIRACY 5155:? 1.1!-0_l1 ,l',5}_l_a'fJ6[d4 5v'92°P=1*= }l .-FFI-1.31-T,who was indicted along with a number of other individuals, whose identities are set forth on the indictment set forth herein, by the September, IL968, Grand Jury of ' - ;..J USDC, EDI, for violation of Title 18, USG, Sections 371 and 2101, was brought to trial on 9/24/69 in the court of USDC Judge JULIUS J. HOFE",rl.-ali. The trial was in session until not2/1.1+/70, guilty andof on count 2/18/70,one the and juryguilty advised ofcount they in5 found aforementioned 1-'10i* l i»i.-iii i%ct11ten,;. On 2/20/70, Judge H051- i.}sIF sentencedHOFFILQI to ,, 5 gears in, custody of the attorney General of the United States T. or-jxis designated representative and fined him $5,000 plus 1-, cozf t cost-'s_;_. l"l !FFIl.tlIwas com-.1ittec1 without bail as Judge *" HOFl~! £.=.I1stated his past actions and statements in court showed v 1 " hinrfo be --a'_,dangerousperson. . , 7 r . -p.. .DE1 Al§_?5 ; Set forth on the following 16 pages is a copy of the indictment returned by the September, 1968, Grand Jury for United States District Court, Horthern District of Illinois, on the case entitled "The United States-of .'tLkQI iCa vs. David '1 . De1lin;,er,et al". It is noted I~I0}.= Fii.-.1-Iwas _;_i charged under count one and count five of this indictment. '-T3 5"""-1" _'|_:f O Tine deeunenteentnlne nettherrecommendations coneluetenenot theof FBI. It In the propertyel theFBI II"! ll |°°""5 L ? your agency; It and lte contente ere not to be dtetrtbuted outside your agency. 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H01- I"i£.'92N, _ " -' " ' """~ .1 JERRY c. 121111111, 1 v LEE I-IEIIIER, 1 JUIUI I1. FRQIHES and -vr! '! B0l3B1'- G. SEAI.-E . ' _, | ' . 1 n_ me smn-mm 1958 crmmo JURY charges: _ 92u ' '_ - -' 1.- Beginning on or about April 12, 1968, and continuing . - , , through on Q I or about August 30, 1968, in the Northern District of 1. _,1 Illinois, Eastern Division, and elsewhere, _ __,__ 92 ' -_ . 9 ' 7 ' " - DAVID T. omxrzsm, ~' - . RENHARD c. mvxs, mo:-ms B. wrrnm, . 92 -| -A . ABBOTI 11. IIOFFI-1- kl-I, _ JERRY c. mmlrz, LEE HEIHER, » no $ . JOHN R. rnolmas and ' - ' ' BOBBY 0. smw, , . -_ - _ defenclantn herein, unlawfully, wilfully and knowingly did combine, conspire, confederate and agree together and with ' '"T - . . -92 T " ' _ WLFE B. mxmnm, ! I swwmr 2. mam-r, ;__-_,2 0 . 92 SIDNEY M. rncx, » :-' | '. -lomlln BOUDIII, - Q .~=-=1 -PA-RA C. . I ._ _. - comm F. rmms, _ - nmmx-tm smnronn, nmnrono FOX, _ -92_ moms u. msumum, - CRAIG s1m:r.nu:wno, .,- I PJMR no mnon and . I mun A. mm - . . Q , 0 .| . . - . ° .- I,-A .- - - ..> --.-".- .¢ - ,2. 5'"- -- I . . r-- _-,.,. -I -d--5J-:lp1"'92'-- -I. -.. .n'I.»".:- 92 92,;_ ,7,5-:7-n - ' '' 92 u-3?:-I_' -1'1-"' - . '- _ a - -3- . - . - _ " 0 O _ - _ u , I- . I - ' - _; --_-3 -._--z.-+'--- -. V Q !- _ " } - l ..,. . __' _ ' , _ , '., ., ' .. - _.. - - - , - being co-conspirators not namedas defendants herein, and with divers ; . . other persons, some known and o 92 thers unknown_tos - the 1 - Qrand Jury, to .¢ - ' . comit offenses against the Uni ted States, that is: ,_ _- I . . I to travel in inter state commerce and use the facilities of interstate commerce with the intent to incite, organize, prenote, ' encourage,participate in, and carry on a riot, and to commit acts | , l. . i II of violence in furtherance of a riot, and to aid and abet persons in | inciting, participating in, and carrying on a riot, and committing i I . r- i acts of violence in furtherance of a riot, and during the course of 0 . . - such travel, and use, and there after, to perform overt acts for the purposes of inciting, organizing, promoting, encouraging, 3 > i - participating in, and carrying on a riot, and committing acts of 1? I " violence in furtherance of a ri ot, and aiding and abetting persons in 5 | ' I - . ' H I I inciting, participatingn in, and carrying on a riot, and committing_ V 1 -. acts of violence in furtherance of'a riot,in violation of 1 - Section 2101 of Title l8, United States Code; and _ . 1 . - " " bi to teach and demonstrate to other persons the use,_ 4 i- ' application, and making of ince ndiary devices, knowing, having reason 92 Q s '» toknow, and intending that said incendiary devices would be " cnplcyed for use in and in furtherance of civil disorders which mayobstruct, delay and adverselyaffect commerceand the -i - movement of articles and connedities in commerce and the conduct and ted functions, in violation of _ u -' pOrformanceof £edcrally_protec I 0 . - - 1: ii Section 231 .-,.! !'0: 16,Title United States Oode;"'_end, I _92 ' - - 1 51-.-gt .', '. . - '_ __» x ..A1 . , C - T 2:"? ' ° ' " -.0 - - Y .- 'on I. ' 0 I 1 ' . " 0 1 - - _ H I g v ¢ . . . 0 "9.i ' 1 0 - , , . . I _ u g .- - , -, - | 0- . - . _u ~ g. . .- - . - . ' - _ ' I _,,...__-_ --- V ______ ._. . u¢.»,F__...__-- _,_. -3 ._.,..._- --v» '1--r92'"92~1 1"'~- ----~'":r'- -'= -L - 92- 7 ' 1 'c. to commit acts to obstruct, impede , and interfere with - firemen and low enforcement officers lawfully engaged in the lawful I,- - per-formonce of their official duties incident to and during the com- i mission of civil disorders which obstruct, delay, and adversely effect 5 I commerce and the movement of articles and commodities in eomeree and the_eonduet_ and performance of federally protected functions, in violotion or Section 231 o.! ! of Title 16, United States Code. T I 2. Ituas o pert of said conspiracy that from on or about April 12, 1968, through on or about August 21$, 1968, the defendants 1 mun r. DELLIIIGl'2R, nszmmm c. DAVIS, moms s. lmrnsn, ABBOTT H. a 'HOFFW92II and JERRY C. BUZBIH, and other co-conspirators not named as 3 defcndenteherein, would organize and attend various meetings, would -.; publish and cause to be published articles, and would make and cause 0-. . to be mode long distance telephone cells for the purpose of encouraging persons to come to Chicago, Illinois to participate in massive demon- . _ 92 2 strations during the period of on or about August 25, 1958, througheon , or about August 29, 1968. . - . i . ' 'A . "_ ' '- 3. It was a further pert of said conspiracy that the defendants nDAVID '1'. _DELLIIu'GER, RENIUIRD C. DAVIS and TEUMA5 E. HAYDZEF, and other - co-conspirators not named as defendants herein, would maintain and cause to be maintained an office of the Rational Mobilization Committee I I O to End the war in Vietnam at 1&0 ! South Dcarborn Street, Chicago, Illinois, and other: movenent centers, " to he used for the planning and organizing 23% of the octiwfities to take place in Chicago during the period of on or .-,~- _._.~. 2 _-.'_r_t about August 25,-i1_95a, tnr-orgy} oo or about August 29} 1969. . _ - - '. '- 0- -. ' '. O ' . , . - . - ' -. . - ' c . - -. . > ' I 92 0 ' 0 n _ 9292 ~- v 0 . I -5-I , . - 1" | Q . _ I ' , -' 1, .. '._._,-.-..--H.-.--.-'-. k '_ _ ' 1 . . ' ,"92°"¢:" . 9292.".'.'*r-' no-.'- --- - . D - 0| _ n _ _92 , ' _ 92 ,_ - - - B. It was a further part of said conspiracy that from on 1 or about August 13,1963, throughon orabout August 2h,1968, the ' defendants DAVID1'. DELLIIIGER,nmmnno cc. nzivis, -1110:-msE. rmrnm, ABBOTT H.![0FF'I-V1.11, C. RUBIN, JERRYLEE WEIIIERand JOHNR. FROIHES, and otherco-conspirators notnamed asdefendants hcrcinfwould select and causeto be selected personsdesignated as "marshals" andwould conduct and'causeto.be conducted training sessions for such "marshals I1 .9: at which instructions would begiven in techniques ofresisting and 9 I obstructing police action, including karate, Japanesesnake dancing, methods pffreeing personsbeing arrested,and counterkicks to knee and groin. " A _ -- - i -. 51' 1 S: It was a further part of said conspiracy that from on ' t or aboutAugust l,1968, through on or about August29, 1968, the ' 6f¬1'1I10.l'ltSDAVID T. DELLIHGER, REIUULRDC. DAVIS, 'I'1i0I-111$HAYDEN, E. IEBBOTI H.HDFFMAII, JERRYC. RUBIN, LEE HEII-TEIR,JDIIH R.FROIIFES and . 92 | - 1- - -nq QOBBYG. §EdLE, and otherco-conspirators notnamed_ss defendants herein, would plan, carry into effect, and cause to be carried into n-é . r . effect actions and tactics to be employed by groups of persons in_ 4. -4 Chicago, Illinois,during theperiod of on orabout_hugust 1968, 25, through on or about August 29, 1968, which actions and tactics would include but would not be limited to the following:' - - a. large numbers of persons would march'tothe International .9 I Jwqhitheater, Chicago, Illinois, even if permits authorizing such marches weredenied; - '-' - - - | - J14 . _ _ , -J--v. we-4 . . . , . .¢ ' " _ Q. t -6'. 0 ' ' a I ' 0 . . _ $ . q 92, ' . . . t_ ...... __ 5 ___.__.,.. . Q t 92 I 92 . ; -' .' ' 92_ ' 5 K b. large numbers of persons would remain in Lincoln Park, - . _ Chicago, Illinois, after ll:O0 p.m., even if permits authorizing such persons to remain were denied, and would set up defenses and would attempt to hold the Park against police efforts to clear it, were permits denied; - _ . f 1 -c.' large numbers of persons would break windows, set off | n false fire alarms, set small fires, disable automobiles, create dis- turbances at various hotels in the Chicago Loop area, and throughout 5- ""1 1 . -; . Q - ego, for urpese of ii sruptin - .. .. eeusing I . J; r the deployment of military forces; ' k s d. on or about August 28, 1958, large numbers of persons as ." E ii I would block, obstruct and impede pedestrian and vehicular traffic in P."-4 the Chica{;o Loop area and would occupy forcibly and hold all or pert oi the Conrad Hilton Hotel in Chicago. ' . -' _ 6. It wasa further part of said conspiracythat fromon or ' "about August 25,1968, throughon or about August29, 1968, the - , Q _! . i - -. .1 . _, I - I . b _ ' It . was a further part of said conspiracy that on or about Augunt_2T, 1963, BOBBY G. SEALE 1-rould travel to Chicago, . ,;-. . _ Illinois where he would speak to assemblages of persons for the purpose of inciting, organizing, promoting and encouraging a riot. _ _ _i . i -_ . .- 1 - . - -92 B. It was a further pzu-t_o1" said conspiracy tnat JUHII :1. - .0 FROIIHES and LEE WEIIIIIEHI would teach and demonstrate to other persona | c » 92 1 1 Z *~ nee, application and malzlng of m inc .. --.., intending '_ 1| -1- 1 that said incendiary device would be employed to dmncge the under- g_rg1_1_.'Qrl garage at Grant Park, Chicago, Illinois on the evening of August 29, 1958. n " " _ ' l_ . 9. It was a further part of said conspiracy that the defendants 5 . 1. and co-conspirators would misrepresent, conceal and hide and cause to oe misrepresented, concealed and hidden, the purpose of and the acts ' done in furtherance of said conspiracy. ' . . . . . . . QVERT ACTS i , At the times hereinafter mentioned the defendants cc-zznitted, s . I u 92 1 among others, the following overt acts in furtherance or the conspiracy i - - ~11. and to effect the objects thereof: c '" - - -. ' I |,._. '1 1. me Grand J'u.ry rcalleges and incorporates by reference the allegations contained in Counts II through VIII of tlfis indictment, . 1 each of which coalntnic alleged as a separate and distinct overt act. . _ 2. on or about July 23, 1968, JERRY c. ntmln spoke to an eesemblage of persona at le8th Street and Park Avenue, Iiew York, New York. 3. On or about July 25, 1968, 91101-ms z. HAYDEii spoke to an . la. On or about Aug-.1nt1, 1968, Rmuuumc. nmqs spoke to an- aeeemblnge of persons at 30 Nest Ch_iengo Avenue,Chicago, Illinois. _ ' 5. On or aboutAugust 15,1958, nmézmmo. nmrxs, mo:-msE. IIAYDEN andJOHN R. FROIIHES participated in n meeting at Lincoln Park, chiOl1[;O, I]-11110180 _ l I . ' ¢ 6, On or about August 18, 1968, nrzmmm c.DAVIS, 1.122 92-.'b'nu:1=. i and JUHl¥n". rnolxrnsporticipated 11;a meeting at 1012 North Noble b Street, Cliieego, ' Illinois. _ , _ T. On or about August 20, 1968, RJMIFLRDC. DAVIS, ABBOTTH. 92 HOFFNAII, HEIHERLEE andJOHI-I R. FR-TJIIHE prmticipated ina meetingat' the National Mobilization Committee office at I101 SouthDearborn Street, I U . f Chicago, Illinois. < ' _' - I B. On Or about August 211,1968, DAVIDT. DELLIRGER, RIZLRILRD Co -0 DAVIS, TIIOI-MSE . HAYDIII,ABBOTT H. HOI"FI~!!kII, LEE HEIHERand JOHN R. .1 92 - 0 -FROII-IE3 attendeda "marshal" training session at Lincoln Park, Chiemo, -Q Illinois. _ '' -. . _ . I ' 9. On or about August 25, 1968, DAVID 1'. nmuxzem, ntznmnnc. >3 DAVIS, THOMASE. IIAYQEI and ABBOTTH. I:"I. FI"MAN met at the Nationtil '5. - 1| Mobilization Committee office at 1:01 South I}-earbo:'n Street, Chicago, Illinois. ' _ 1 }- ' I io. On or aboutAugust 26,1968, nmnunec. nnvzs, JERRY c. - 4 RUBIN, 1.:-:2wznmn uua Jolm R. 1-"no1m'-."=»met at Lincoln Park, e'n1oo¢;o, 71.? Illinois. , -_ ¥ . 11. On or about August27, 1958, annex. c.nunna, none!e. _. w-,,_.v u a I?! 81-:ALE andothers spoke to an assemblage of persona at Lincoln Park, Chicago, Illinois.é c ' - "9- r. 0 _ -....._,-..-"N. v- ~ . . A 92 I .92 ' '92_J 92 ' 92 - 12- On orabout August28, 1968,DAVID '1 .DEIJLIIIGBR, TIIOHASE. IIAYDIZII, JERRY RUBIN C. othersand iapolzeto an assemblage of personsat GruntPark, Chicago,Ulinois. 5; 13. On or about August29, 1968,LEE HEIHFRand Joun R. 7| -1I 1'RC5IIIESin a conversation engagedat G1-c.nt Pa.r}:, Chicago,Illinois; c 1 ' -all in tiolationof Section371 ofTitle 18,United StatenCode. _ . 0 , I» ¢ ? *2"1 -1-. . I I I 9 - o -- 0 i 5 I ' 1| 1 U 92 n 0 1 1 I zi- -,.'-_- . " ' "0 - .---1' '. ..-v-F . ' . . "I - .- -1o- _ __._I... _. " -' . -- - - - -- -1;-92 -gm-.---_. '..-r .' _,t---_-q. V '|~.92 .,. ,_._- ' - ,5,-,- -. -._.- I _ I -2, = , . -I , . .-Q-_ ,,,,__ _ o , 92. O . comaII C 9 . ' .-_| -u-1'-I. ',.. The sséae:-men1968 amumsum: furthercharges: r-I ' Thatduring periodthe be inningon or about iuly 20, 1 1963 throughon or about August22, 1958, ' 9 _ _.=- i 'DAVID T. nnnnnzcsn, _ _ '~ | Ii defendantherein, Aid trauelin interstate commerce outside_ from 92 1 the Stateof Illinois to Chicago,Illinois, NorthernDistrict of Illinois,Eastern Division,with intent to incite, organize, r promoteeneourage_a and and, riot thereafter, on or about _ August1968, 28,at Grant Park, Chicago,Illinois,he did speak E;5. ._;i . toan assemblageof personsfor thepurposes inciting, of : in - : '.-; 5! -ii organizing, andpromoting encouraginga_riot; in uiolation of efitle 1B,United StatesCode, Section2101. 1' -i I _ . 4 _ ._,A . ° 0 Q I - I . I I ' 0 I 14 ' - » .._ . ¢f- b ° ' ." ' _!_ , Ir-r . I ' "" I I "1-Q. - » ~ -11- w'.~.r}P v Q I .._,* 1., 0. 1 ._~..' 1. I 0 I - 0 - I '- . . I n I 5 ' ' '' ' "-" '-- '-_. -_-----1:»-.,.,7-.--,3-=-v ----=-r ._A,._ -.7-.-.F - llr-1 14- 0--rrvy -4 ~10 92 I o ' - ' . Q -_ . _ _,_-__--7--> ' . - ' - ' -..... ..______..---' _ _ --o- 92._ - n _ .-- -"""" __-,,.-- ' _ ' - . .1. - ' COUNT III . .-,-1--n $lIi The sE1='rI:Ms1m 1968 cnmm JURY irther charges: _ 4 That during the period beginning on or dbout July 20, 1968 through on or about August 1, 1963, I 92 - _ nmnmm c". mus, . ~ 4 defendant herein, did travel in interstate commerce from outside 1 the State cf Illinois to Chicago, Illinois, Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division, with intent to incite, organize, promote and encourage e riot and, thereafter, on or_about w August 1, 1968, at 30 Vest Chicago Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, H and on or dboutAugust 9, 1968, atU07 South Deerborn Street, ~ '. I _ Chicago, Illinois, and on or about August l8, 1968, ct' l0l2 North Noble Street, Chicago, Illinois, and on or about _ -4 August 26, 1968, at Grant Park, Chicano, Illinois, he did speak 1 to assemblages of persons for the purposes of inciting, organizing, promoting and encouraging a riot; in violation_of Title 18, United s-mes Cede,Section 21c1.' l __-.--"_ "_ _'_ " I O I I d 0 -w-v '-.-r'»= - .17- .- » ;. =~t . -II. I ' . . . 5'} | ' v -'1 '4. -. -12- '7 5 u '92 d I ° 0 I . ' . .1 u . A 0' _- ,.-_-,._ _._ ...... --_ - . _.- - -- -.o- -w-Q.-.,.--r.-..," .-_'-- .--->~__q--ya-r _ I __-- --w -1-__ *_y-_'-.:|-_-1-_92'?p-1rI~'-"'.§» " """- - s__ _ _ 1. K '--1 , . I -. I , . _ . L _ 92 4 . I I . I V _ J F - Y 92 - I-¢u'q . i 1 nI. - it 92 - couwr Iv 92 ' . . . .' '0 _ - '- .. .. .-.' '_- ' ..~ ... 0 - Q.--...... "'- E II 92 ''.l'hc stern-mm 1958 cnm-:1! aunt further ¢;=u.r;;;u:_ __ _ 1 ' 4 - That during the period beginning on or about July 20, i .' . - ' . ' I _ . _ . 92 1968, through on or about August 22, 1965, _ 92 - _ ' _ . _'I?IIOI~lAS . 1:. IIAYDEII,. - .>...... -.- .. _, .-1| - defendant herein, did trovel in . interstate . - . . O - commerce .. . from - outside, - . the _ State ._ of Illinois _.... to Chicago, ., Illinois, . Northern .-. .7. District_ -..---~ V 1 of Illinois, Eastern Division, with intent to incite, organize, I i promoteencourage and a riot and, thereafter, on or atout,__ Q August 26, 1965, at Lincoln Park, Chicago,_lllinois, end on _H6 i 1 . -1 0 or dbout August 28, 1968, at Grunt §ark,_Qhicugo,_ll1inois, H ; J an he did speak to assemblages of persons for the purposes of ' inciting,organizing, promoting and encouraging a riot; in __ 0 L '- @- violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2101. _ , . '- _ - I _ .0 _' _ _ _ ._ . '. -_. ____ _ '_ _. . __ _ A e _ . H , J , _ '. -_- _- _ -, 92 . -_ . . _ _- . ._ . -. __. . - . -- . _1- - - - - . . ; I--__ _ -'. . -_ lr . , . 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'-_.. - q f ' ' coum*v~%-_ O . I . I 4 9'were:-men The 1968emu: my further charges: . 1 ; that during the periodbeginning or about on August l, ' l9§Bthrough on or aboutAugust 7, 1968, _ _ g a ._ , - _. ~ ABBOTT H. Ilornmu, _ . __ 1 A defendantherein, didtravel ininterstate commercefrom outside . theState of Illinois toChicago, Illinois,Northern District e of Illinois, EasternDivision, withintent toincite, organize, 0 _ . promoteana encourage a riot and, thereafter,on or ebout August 26, 1968,at Lincoln Park, Chicago,Illinois, and on or _ I J -I - about August 27, 1968,at Lincoln Park, Chicago, Illinois, = and on or about August 29, 1968,at Grant Park; Chicago,_ _ , i 3 Illinois, hedid speakto assemblages of personsfor the purposes 4 ' ' - . ' _ , . .--, 1 -'inciting, of organizing,'_ -',promoting and encouraging . a. riot; inn .' violationTitle of 18,United StatesCode, Section2101;- . I '. 9 j '_-''-' . _ 92 _ 1 - __'t;~._ ' .-_'.'._ .. .' * . 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Q _ Q _ ' ' » I 92 ' ' ' . 92 - ' ' 5| 1' A I ' .23 1 0 . - L I comrr v1 ¢ - I r _ I e Pl I .- Thessrrmwnn 1968cnrnm JURYiurther chargesi _ _ That during theperiod beginningon or about July 23, 1968 throughon or about August 21,1968, ' _ 3 - _ . .n::nmr c. nusm, -._-- defendant herein,did travel in interstate conerce fromoutside the State of Illinois to Chicago, Illinois, Northern District _ 92 :5 I _of Illinois, Eastern Division,with intentto incite, organize, I _1 I pi - . promote andencourage riota and, thereafter, on or about . _ 92 August 25,1968, at Lincoln Park, Chicago,Illinois, and on . . ~9- . - 92- . ._,. pr aboutAugust_26, 1968,at Lincoln Pork, Chicago,Illinois, J and on or about August 27, 1968, at Lincoln Park, Chicago, . Illinois, he did speakto assemblagesof persons for the purposes V. .' --n of inciting, organizing, promoting and encouraginga riot; in . ' 1 violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2101. ._.; I H " "-' ='. 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'92 , _ '- ~_ - I I I. p: _ -- - _ I 92 0 |._-.,. , ,. comm v11: '_ "9 " F -_oI - ' ' The SEPTEMBER1968 GRANDJURY further charges: I a I .. .. .- I That onor aboutAugust 2Q,l9§3,_at Chicago,Illinois, E E in theNorthern Districtof Illinois, Eastern Division, " I 5 - _ i ' LEEWEIJII-IR,._ ' . 1 defendants herein,did teach and demonstrateto other persons_ the use,application andmaking ofan incendiarydevicc_knoying, *1 4 having. reason- JOHN to know and intending n. Fnoiznzs that and said incendiary dcfice _ I : would beunlawfully employedfor use in and in furtherance oQ__ F- ' I I a civil disorder which may obstruct, delay_and_adverse1; affect i eomerce andthe movementof articles and_cqmodities commerce; in I in violation of Title 18, United. - a etatcsQode, Section I ' -' 231. ' a! l!. .' __ . . _ _ " -1! . " . " .' I. . '. 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I ---- *. - _ '- . -. --. l ' - . -.. .. --_ - _ 0 _ . I p' J . Q .. 1 _ : 1 Q 5 _ ' I . .--r_. , =. _ _. _ Ia _ I . ' 92 I I -. r 92 2:, 6 .. _ ... _. _ ,_ ' . I _92 ' ' 92 n g - ' . -- I- . '_ '1 "I. V . 1._ E- '-' . |- * . I . comm VIII _ . g I u Q < I i ' $EPTEMBERIbo GRAND 1968 JURYfurther charges: That onor dboutAugust 27,1968, - ' 92 5 -1 ,_ _ . 6 1_aoBBr_c.s1=:nu:,_ .4 defendant herein,did'travel interstate in commercefrom outside . the Stateof Illinois to Chicago,Illinois, . - Northern - District . '. . 1 ' 92 5 of Illinois, Eastern Division,witn intentto incite,organize, -9. promote andencourage a riot and, thereafter, onor about "5 I August 27,1968, atLincoln Park,Chicago, Illinois,and onor 3 . dtdutAugust 1968, 28, Grant at Park,Chicaéo, I11inois,_he_ . 0 _ - did speakto assemblageeof persons for thegurpoeee inciting, of -at organizing, promotingand encouraging a riot; in violation of __Title United18, StatesCode, Section2101. ' - "I 8 . _ ' .-- . --- I -_ .9 ..-n--.-._..-a__.,_,_I O _ i ' - ' . ' - ' - '_ ' . , . _ 1 . u - - ' -. - ' ' . - _ 92 - J . 1 _ ,. . 4 ,- . - - _ ' . ~, , ; 92 ,_ . - -A mumBILL: _ _ '; > .7 1. 'I .4- J ..-l__, --0--u | ; I - -_- - . : O '- . - I -'~.1. -.-.---In-1I . .'-. -92c1|u - n o ¢ Q - - Q - Q-i | w . - ' . I ._ -_ 1 _ Q1-In | *1**_'"'W,_'41 J4-n ,4-n 4 . ;- .~ -_ F 'O _ R E M.A - _ -'0 H 9 . "' ., l 1 jg; ~.-- '1' -'1- -. . ' -- - ._Tr'_ '¢ 5.1..-J1' 1 | 0 ._ . - _ '- "i .- | .. 3 ' 1 - e 0 - . I . -f 8 -.4 .9 '"41 Tliwiiiz osmnsnnnifromnr' I 11 r' _ -L"? - '5' :6J Ii -- - O 1 - I _ ._. A - Q I " O r 1 . r 1 I I I - Q 1 | g - 1 5 1. ?-2' - "- J- --.-.- I " . Q: no '0' 0 . ,0 . Il6S:1cm ' - _ - '_ . L I . 92 - . o cc 116-2s _,_ y _ The case entitled "The United States of America vs. David T. Dellinger, et al" commenced in the court of United States District Court Judge JULIUS J. HOFHLQL ibrthern District of Illinois, Eastern Division, sessionChicago, Illinois, on until February September l4,1970, 24, when I969,the and jurg wasbegan in deliberation upon evidence submitted during t c course of this trial. On February 18, 1970, the jury advised the court that they had reached a verdict in this case and stated they found ..BI3£;T'IHUFFII.-".1-I not guilty on count one in the aforementioned indictment and guilty on count five. On February 20, 1970, United States District Court Judge JULIUS J. HUFFHMH sentenced HOFFMAN under count five, supra, to five years in custody of the Attorney General of the United States or his designated -- representative and fined HOFFMAN $5,000 plus court costs. Judge IIOFFI-1.- .11,in sentencing H01- F'IL>I=!, statedthat H01- FI1.=H past actions and his statazents in court showed him to be clearly a dangerous person and, accordingly, HOFFKAH was committed without bail. K 92s F 5. 1 an-Qp_ _. s1 1 I 092 Ed:5:':'~ . 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' I . i ll ro-aegtne-J11-21-as!' . . . . . , I . 92 .. 9 " '' PAROLE carom Reportingi ,_ if i iCHICAGO ,B,U,REAU, Gffice Office of ,,OF igi *1 |N92,!E§'|l|GAT|ON 7 j ateif pi i Nun» .¢¢...aa;.n Amp»: 0 if F J * Report ma Typed By ABBOTT I-10WaRDHOFFI*1£=.N, aka SA wkn Abbie Hoffman, Abbiey Hoffma1., Violation: 92 -Abbey Hoffman, Abbe Hoffman, _ 1 I nbner Hoffman,Abby Hoffman z-NTIRIOT LAWS- DN5PIR»=CY l OitllueJ =»f0ff¬5~e-HOFFI-1£.Nzd*idtravel inzinT|:erstatecom1T1& ée* ffor oGt¬id*e*t1'TeF F State of Illinois to Chicago, Illinois, with intent to incite, organize, romote andencourage a riot and, thereafter,on or about 8/26/68, at Eincoln Park,Chicago, onor about8/27/68, atLincoln Park,Chicago, and about8/29/68, at Grant Park, Chicago,he did speak toassemblages of personsfor the purposesof inciting, organizing, promotingand nncnnraain w--ww----¢__¬ 8 _ T1012._ Dam placegnd .,n..d¢,.,.....,,-3/20/69, NorthernDistrict of Illinois, Eastern Division or information led: Code actionand underwhicbcharged: Title18: USC: sections 371 and 2101 Section underwhich sentenced: Title 18: Use: Sesti-on 2101 -an; mte gndngturg MP1";Not guilty on 4/9/69 .4 - me andplaceofconvic on: 0312422/70, guilty Northern USDC, Districtof Illinois, as ern vis on I 1 We cudduration =>f--I-m-=~=5 years in custody Attorney General or his designated representative Fl-¢== $5,000 plus l/5 court costs. Accra -wlinswllitiminz =1r=--M-»m=At the conclusion of HGFFI-1AH'strial and prior to 1 the rendering of the verdict, U. S. District Judge JULIUSJ. HOFFMAN foundthe above HOFFMANsentence, guilty of numerous égdgethe countsspecified of thatcontempt.HOFFFAN would In connection remainin with the 55-'6 1 custod ' of -the Attorney nera '14 ntil the fine/7a.-3 3 - BureauDissemination at SOC. ,_ _ _ ._ 1? ______. __ _ _ i . ' 2- D :.: Fwd.:B u of Prisons3 ,3.70 M " :1.-."._p;-=9-:3, asrw e This duculncnaconiuinb "neitheriicoms"-sndeiiens s==*=====:-.=:==i=e! the§_l!!= Z!is theproperty the9! FBIand 1: loll! ed Io your agency;ll. and In contentsare no!lo bedtltributod oullldoyour agency.T YUP 0 l2-T-T91 k xxxioot xxxxxx xxxxxx FEDERAL BUREAU or INVESTIGATION ___- ...1- FOIPQ DELETED PIGE INFORMATION SHEET El Pugelsl withheldentirely atthis locationin the le. Oneor more of the followingstatements. where indicated. explain this deletion. [3 Deleted underexemptiontsl ._,._ _ _. _ _A.__ - _ with no segregable 1'3material available for release to you. II! lnfonnation pertainedonly toa third party withno referenceto youor the subject ofyour request. information pertainedonly toa thirdparty. Yourname islisted inthe title only. Documenttsl originatingwith the following governmentagency-ties! _ o g _. __ _ . or W _ ._ _ ___ . ._ . _ _ , was/wereforwarded themto fordirect responseto you. L Pagetsl referredfor consultationto thefollowing governmentagencytiesl; ___._ . _ ' V; ._ _ as the informationoriginated withthem. Youwill be advisedof availabilitx" upon returnof the material tothe FBI. Pagetsl withheldfor the following reasonislrThis dOCl-lmentrwhich is a Carbon CQPYI has not been processed in this file. The ORIGINAL of this document - ~ e 1 " ~ " en i ri * is toloeor? hasbeeiniiprocesseiciiin i igg !-g92{'Filefiil-C? T1,- P1: For yourinformationr ______g_ In _ _ Thefollowing numhelr to beuseld¢_n .015for refelrince1 7 I regardingi '92 ._ theseipageyl 11 O -_ _ 1wt_uuei;> r_t/lc. -L1p_uLe7- .__ XXXXXX XXXXXX HXHX XXXXXX DELETEDPAGE S! NO DUPLJCATION FEE K FUR PAGE A .1 . _ I -U:-. it-Hi 0-04 f cv. I-:1-an cue-uinouunono K - my-nu :'._. ti, ,3 '_ " 'nu an-n nnlnn .3? 92 _ ¢"- 92 cuoln.ln.na.n l 5 0 p . . T:-. .5=- 92 UNITED STATES GQVERNMENT . ' ' "' 5: ' -é= ;¬ -' J2 Memorandum .7 '-.=1'.,":".f-.. _>f -."'»; .43"- .~I.t-. TD : Assistant Attorney General DATE 2j15/70 .I.-T , ._~ CRIIINAL DIYIBIN ATTENTION: IR. OUT L. GOODIII FROM : Director, FBI O Ill! C iggféé SUBJECT : ._. -. " .-= ABBOTT Qorrum ANTIRIOT LAI8 ;u g''*"'""*T*"*@c*1r.zn.::-:£n ;/ A- :'.~.. I1? ~ ~ lr II-I92 .- _ _ . J I ;_-..- 1-Y;-.; i; 3.'..'..i.:"-ft.-f3irli:U . ',.'-....;L'92' 1:-..=.1.':. .1-39-3?. B9292!!l'¬ L M .-'1;-."'! ;." . Reference is made to -Q memorandum dated glg lo 1-- '.' your file 7 r;' .. . __.- 92 There is enclosed one copy of the report of Special Agent9+. _;__ " ;;_p_4 "1 _Z K = _ p _ i ds t e d _ W 'H iT_ if 7 _ A. [::]This covers the preliminary investigation and no fur th er action concerning a full investigation will be taken _v-.d .- by this Bureau unless the Department so directs. B. [::] The investigation is continuing and you will be furnished copies of reports as they are received, " ' ' Theinvestigation requested by you has now ,.. '-- TH been completed. Unless advised to the contrary no further in- .<:-1. ? , _V 14: . if""-""2 quiries will be made by this Bureau. 1 .-'. :92 .=_¬- ?" .- D. [::|Pursuant to instructions issued by the Depart- ment no investigation will be conducted in this matter unless v'_- Q"-_ . .. . -~ .._-..;-_ specifically directed by the Department. » . ~_. .___¢ -5;. :-- 7: .._ _ you desire any further in- -."' .' .-.. E. [::]Please advise whether .-=4 vestigation. .p F. [:} This is submitted for your information and you 1-. will be advised of further developments $5.4: .#~- ..._ .,. .- G. E3 This is submitted for your information and no s further investigation will be conducted unless specifically re- quested by the Department. i__ '» H. " 'This covers the receipt of'a complaint and no further action will be taken by this Bureau unless the Department I ->-I 0. -I / -_,,- -_~ -.?~:~;- -xi 5-..r:_-7-V-__,.-: : ~,*.- ,,,'_.:_. 57- ' _ 1.J- . $ I _ f92 :.:1:em' a .;.=-_<-;.:= -3. '1 / 7Q__;3:L ' 1 P.-¢ 1 - 2 FEB QJ 51979 92Q d 22 FEB 1719 ?__ *1 ._92 ,-'1 vii. '1!- 1.*5 -. 92 92 . . . _ __._ .._..._._....-.-»_..-_..,_____ ,.-._ i. -._...-....,..-_.-_--..._. ___-.-L-_-...--_-_-A-'n---¢ -u-_------nu-.-~-.s_._._-e - ll _ - 5 I . .- . '1" -La, ' Q " . Q _ U192'ITEDs'r,92'r1.~:s DEP.-92l1TMEI92 Tor-' JUSTICE ">, >§_i_ao ' -<. ~" . "*""° FEDERAL BUREAU 01" !I92f92.r'E5T!GA'1 !DN '*svP 0 1nnosJmeen¢w" Baltimore, Maryland File No. - y _ 6 1oo-9as61 ' February 10, 1970 -' J- H |: V,_.'92"1-|.i-i§s~~¢@u~:H E . .!,'; :-.;9292;|'|LU . ~e-. y +=.:=I;' a; e r in g_n:;_;-two-L-e_iB 92 e¥B1 "l* 's RE: ABBOTT HOFFMAN, BERNARD GORDON DAVIS, ROGER PRIEST ' t' -l'_ '. " _Li*_V_** 1; 1 i1'A* » '»~" ' _ J.492 . '_,.-1 , ~--1-V-1 _--1 ..-v. " -7 -.-=-' = ~- ~ :-_. An advertisement appeared in the February 4, 1970 _pd . -- f.1 . issue of the "Diamondback" student newspaper at the University 2 of Maryland, Cdlege Park, Maryland, page 21. This advertise- ment is for University oi Maryland Student Government ':1'r. Association speakers series. Advertisement states Abbie iii! Hoffman and Rennie Davis from Chicago conspiracy trial together ?-'* -, gv I.4 with Roger Priest, editor of "0 M " under court martial by 1:4 -..- _ United States Navy, will speak Sunday,_Fehruary B, 1970 at _ -7. .r. 8:00 p.m., at University of Maryland, College Fara, Maryland, kn. Armory. Admission is free. -' Ek- r'.: ' 5.1" : ' B. GORDONDAVI3 also known as Rennie Davis is a -e 1- past officer of the Hational Executive Council of the Students for a Democratic Society SDS!. A; _ 'V _ * , 15. ? A characterizationof the SD$is appended,! -¢-- i...- A, Howard Hoffman is self described as a "hard- . ti. . ,__ . ,,,__ . core anarchist" and one of the founders of Youth International Party. ' 9 in? - Davis and Hoffman were indicted with six others ¬g¢g%by Federal Grand Jury at Chicago, Illinois in March, 1969 regarding anti-riot law violation in conjunction with activities during the Democratic National Convention and .*;_1~":;f-I', :=,;_are currently on trial for this offense in Chicago. . ,t Roger Priest is a Navy seamen currently being ', prosecuted in Navy Court proceedings. ' >_¢ I:-"1. _ ._ .. ._-1~..- - ---92' i-..~_...___._.__-,- - 92 la -92_--.7. _.__.,_,. __:,__i _ __ _ _ _ __ ¬'"{ _-_ ¢ "-1, ~,"Y5 _'r Q . _ . - ._._._...** _A_ _ 4 ~_.-i-; .::A -; ;7'4-q--.--=- ~;~ -e '4 -i.-_" I ' 92 92_ . ., 92- : '1 -- __;-¢., _-W, _-:-- W :~,.- _ ___._..... d #-*92 l i 7. 1. 3. .~,1. I,-1. , -.,-:~..ff. am ABBOTT loss:-ms, F .-:-j RENNARDDAVIS, oonnon. _ noose PF§;S'1 _M, _ _ Lanai 3. 7:55 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. Roger r es , enn e avis and Abbie Hoffman, spoke at the Un i sitver y of Maryland, College Park Armory before 2,500 students in a speakers series sponsored .';. by the University of Maryland Student Government Association. . 1._-f- G. 4- _ No incidents or arrests were made and the speakers made no -7- obvious inflammatory comments. *__#' l l Priest the first speaker, spoke abouthis specific a~ case andfreedom of speechby military personnel in the form .' -n of underground newspapers. _ . 11+ . 7, . . 0 Rennie Davis, the second speaker, spoke about his .1. current trial in Chicago and encouraged all present to come to Chicago for a demonstration whatever day the verdict is handed down. - _ _ 51.1 - Abbie Hoffman also talked about the 1972 Republican kpv Convention in Hawaii becoming a thousand Chieagos. that an - I article a | e amon ac wh! ! c ! o ! Howswas u b- s stantially what was said by Priest, Hoffman, and Davis at Maryland on February 9, 1970. '12. ' . .- q c__d . ._?___ i 92 _92._"- ". _. - :_ .. *4 . -1-?'1 55 4. .1 - .___"-I 2 . -JrI 92 o F -- __.-;. . _ E. ,Ii_ --.7-_. 9 '92-' _ 1 2 : 5::3?-Tr? 1,»,* .1---'92 . _i .:..--a- if-a . .., .. _ '. . _ _ - 7 _- +--'-- a -,_ i - 0 do .-,-.__ . . ens: ABBOTT L.-1/mu, , nsnnaao qaoon DAVIS , 3993,31 FiP .. 7-sr_ O _ , _ ;r A -'3" -:."*:.92' not orrmory i r __,., »,9@-o -737'}? _ |-' |I__ - t I Z7o@@r 35 ;7 i _., _@17@f@U a@17@limE§ " anysilsii t-"dirnsn quipped, the medium is the that the politicians were putting ~ news editor mesmll .- - over as democracy and"to my "Why don t we begin the But, last night was their last no to tour more years oi Lyn- meetingwith one his bullshit for stand and Hotlman and Davis don Johnson'swar." 5* ' Davis suggested that Conspir- sf?" Judge Hoifman? On three. One- lived up to e promise to "make or-" two-ihree: bullshit!" it mg.-'. - acy supporters look aheadioi9?6 251 And 4,000 hippies, yippies and Ciowniike, Hoiirnan appealed saying, "The two-hundreth anni- others screamed bullshit with tor mtts in his typical style. versary or our American rev- olution is not a time to recount as -o Ronnie Davis in support or David "It costs it lot oi tucking money Dciiinger in Rcckorci armory last to go to prison these days. This history but to repeat it." 7 night. - ' trial has set Hanoi back a pretty Hoffman, who expects to go to Davis and Abbie Hoffman, dir- pem,y_n Leavenw orih "Where the straight cct it-om their tour-and-a-ital! After apologizing for being criminals go--with the big boys, said; . - month engagement at the Con- drunk, "They don't serveAm.- spiracy 8 trial in Chicago, and pulco gold on Untied Airlines," "lviayhe we belong there.hio- Roger Priest, about to bc court he welcomed himself to Mary- body's putup it fight like this martialcd by the Navy for sed- land. in the history oi the world. The v . iticn held their own court tnwhat Recalling a speech given at history oi political trials is that 15*. they're alllosers," he added. Davis called "the real court- UMBC the day before the trial 1 - I room." began, he explained its relevance Given the law that leglslates Deienrl.-mt Hoffman entered the to the conspiracy charge:"Some- against the state oi mind," he armory doing carhvheels. He how the government has some reminded the crowd, "only in hassled with the microphone and kind oi screwy computer that can 1984 fascism can you go to pris- t iigure all that shit out." _% nn nr -..t..-.H-urn --- rivll ---.-I"92i"1it.=: --,,----. ---_ QPJL" Remarks he made that night were introduced as evidence He also admitted to a conspi- against him shortly alter the trial racy. we are it conspiracy had gotten underway despite de- against imperialism, racism, fense objects that they were ir- hart-assrnent oi the youth cui- relevant. ' ture and the boredom and sen- ility oi the American pig cul- Earlier, Davis gleeiuily ad- tufe. ' . " mitted that he and Hoffman had conspired on the plane and noted Hofiman said, "we defy every that last night's speechwas pro- law in the .world--including the . ,,r__ bably their last chance to incite law of gravity. What goes up -_ "anything. ' doesn't necessarilyhave to come Regardless oi the verdict, he down." said, they and two of their at- It sharp contrast from the torneys will probably be tailed volatile Hoffman, the first tor contempt oi court. speaker, Roger Priest seemed 4- ._,¢ calm and vaguely out or place. "This is the last chance to He is being court mertialed on ___- urge the people in this room to . , 1 collection of charges that may _ Y cross state lines with lnclteltil net him 39 claims in prison. Fa intent to disrupt the ftepuhiican I 1?.-- national convention in 1972," he He wrote a newspaper oiihase, 4 told the cheering and "stamping on his own time, and with his owomoncy that_ he cltams an- -4n-- crowd. :' 1- He said their etiorts at the gered Mendel Rivers, head oi 2 -4*} . ___ ,_,; .. Chicago conventionwere to dis- the armed services committee, '71-I-§~=;v92.- -L ' ' - I g rupt the sham and the mockery among others. -. q--|--4" 92 92,'*.i.. 77*7 _'vv__ _i7*' rm 7- ___i ___ :1 <7 4; 7-T 3 _ 1 ,_ _ ,, r . . t - _ '.r-"-'Z..1- - ______*___ __ k . _,__A ______._W ,. ..--__._.._. - - 7 ___. ..__. - . L . . ._>,_..- -~ _ __ _ _ , ___t . so .,__ _ 1 V . '-- . ' _ _ ,.-.- 7" .-__,4.¢,=;?|I_u,& - ,'; .___ qqyqqk-.,;r , :'t'~ - - Q-*.':_.j'.'-rt .-_ ,2. 'I1 :-;..,-1%J>.; .{_'92;-£'§;':i_!-ii;- iikg _-_;f:~_,__ _ .,j__". _;l_i.';.;-:92;7 _-... "' .'{;', ~-L~--.'-3_ i' ','.l!=. ' '-- -- -.~ - ~,.-Ic-:-4'4 -= _i..':':-,-._-_-,-3 ._ -. 1 ;;.-~.t~ : -.-::.,i'= -1-_!r t;~t-fr ,-,-s-=~ an i""-. '*. 5.-.-5 =' ' In 92 ''- ; J !_"_ as 4 O _ so RE : ABBOTT» HOFFMIXN, BERNARD cor-mos DAVIS, . ROGER PRIEST _ 1 . §1- A second and third source verified on February 10, P 1970 that the Diamondback article was substantially correct 'I92 reporting. 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A CONSPIRACY? c._ Roger Priest'strial must be st0PP°d»t°°3 loin the Conspiracy to Save the Priest» » s. om r@-~1»@~ V//5 .::.~,_i . , . . : _. ,3 I //!;T~<*~/92. 8Z»vJ~Z_ cf; ' ll. 4 ~ °°a .» l » . e ... ff . .| . LK1 -"tr - . _ -; . .- . __ H __ __. 7 _. - _ . .'=- ,-_- -.*t- Q _ __. °_ 1'- the Tmall H ~. ,111' 1I .»¢5,9 '92 92 : -~_ Freedom ofspeech andof thepress were established at thetrial of johnPeter Zenger two _ centuries ago. Yet, today the U. S. Navy -- backed by the fossil-like chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, L. Mendel Rivers, By D. Roger S. C.! Priest,are planning U.S. Navyto court-martial '' the First Amendment of the Constitution andthereby be in_a positionto smashthe GI anti-war press. _ t a _ - The oft-postponedtrial of this reporter will probablytake placein the latter part of January or early February. It will be in this trial that the military for the rst time will challenge' the right of a GI to put out a paper on his own time, o -base and withhis own funds - a right supposedly guaranteedby the Constitution. e - - - 1 -- a .- .. > ', __ - What startedopt on June 20,1969 as four-and-one-half single-spaced, typewritten pages listing 14-charges andspeci cations wasreduced toeight chargesand specificationswhen referred to trial August 28, 1969. After a hearingbefore Capt.B. RaymondPerkins, themil- -'- Jitary judge, two morecharges andspeci cations weredropped --these allegingsolicitation to commit sedition and deseriion through statements in OM. . But theSystem struckback andthe conveningauthority, Rear Adm. GeorgeP. Koch, Comman- -up dant WashingtonNaval District, ordered thatthe dismissedcharges bereinstated. ' My lawyerswere notdisturbed bythis newinterference intothe trial proceedings. They carried the issue upto the Court ofMilitary Appeals,which onDec. 19. 1969 orderedKoch to answer ourcharge thathe appliedcommand influenceon themilitary judgein orderingthat ' the chargesbe reinstated. - ''_ . . . . A No matter what decisionis finally reached bythe Court, a trial will take place on the six .35 counts underArticle 134 Uniform Codeof Military In!]ustice which have remainedintact to 4 this date. It is under this notorious catchall provision of the code that I'mbeing charged with < the "crime" of "advisingand urginginsubordination anddisloyalty withintent tointerfere with, impair andin uence theloyalty, moraleand disciplineof militaryand navalforces" through 3 .. l .-11 statements in OM "which said pamphletwhich in its entirety contained statementsdjlsloyal to the United States. " - 5; -. If foundguilty ofthis "crimeof speech"I could receive a dishonorabledischarge andup to39 Y2years injail. _Therldiculousnessof thecharges andits obviousrepressive intentdoes notneed expanding upon,except to say that as an American citizen I have been speakingand writing the truth as I see it to be. If that be a "crime" it is one I PROUDLY admit! And I might add that I am more than willing to measure my "crime" against those who have perpetrated the illegal, immoral andgenocidal war being waged againstthe peopleat Vietnam. - ' Freedom ofspeech andfreedom ofthe pressare notliberties thatare woneasily --and are I10! liberties120 begiven awayeasily. L. Mendel Riversmay getthe court-martialthat heOI" .* :, = dered and the Navyjust mayget theconviction thatit wants SO desperately.Bill I E811it IO YOU straight; theirs will be a hollow victory. It will be WE -- not THEY ~- who will have the last word. Pray for the aged. Andremember that we are the implydamn youngergeneration around. r'1 ____But_i{__weT Q SIRUGGLEDARE arid_DABETO WIN the peacethat is rightfully ours;this trial '4. 1 T4 ..._.. _._...-____,,,___,__. ____.__,_...__..,,,___.,___....___. .-_.... - - 7 e _ 4-__ e - . _ _ W - -____.._. __.A....- _ 7 . - i_ '- v » ''-"__,- -- . _ , .-t a - -. . .-. . ". -- . V 2 . ff .{ '-PL: - '.-'._- _-'S 1 :.- "-- -z - I . '_ @531 9 LT [LET FIHE ..1._s - A _ _ _ 5-.r'._. r .,_- _ i _ . . _ _ ;. f." - -.3. _. ,.'_ ___ _esmmeom oown 1:. .-1-- _ ¢. 62/ d U UAU. "ms e iE*'U['2§F zamsnanmsmv 1 - '. . -0-. . re . Q - I ' ,,_...------_-...¢._,.-....-..._.___..-_-_..-__I L V :=' -@ THE PRE: H _ A 0 . "-:.-;.iOlE92! 2' cf ROGER_ PF?.!E$T DEFENS_ CQP./ i[92/"i!TTEE£ F-Ha - .. - ; A or =a11= n<>1z.@§§_-.=.-nan ...... -Q "1 EROgBI Priest _Defense __ _-,. _---...---an-0 Committee, 0 I Q Room II I ¢ I F 200, I '* -- 1029 *- - VEIIRODI _ ' - ' '' AVEDUG '' ' ' 'NW, ' - W8.$hing1l0I1, D. C.Z0005 _''.. IJ I Johnwant willChafee, tell to mySave too Senators the byPriest. writing and Add Congressmen the myPentagon name to 13686!, tothe STOP Roger 'IHE in TRIALWashington, Priest Defense and Ior will byCommittee. 'tell telephoning Sec. of the 02! NavyOX5-315 - 4;I Enclosed want to help is a organize ccntributionsupport of $ for Roger to help payin myarea.defense Tell costs me and howIto provide can help.publicity {of Roger we " __P1ease case. send me copies of Roger's "SOUVENIR COURT-MARTIAL EDITION OF"OM" Suggesteddonation: 50¢ per copy! =1 -- *5 Please send me '_'_" buttons sayingsaying "SAVE "AND "ms THE om PRIEST cons and/or ON" suggesteddonation. 25¢ Bad ._~ 92 r.92.- I11 5;; F3". ---__._..___..-92_...... -.1._-Q.-4-1 I_J -* -1q¢ -I~-Q.-- :2-92»l I0l-I "1';- _"--Fe: _: .' --;¢_:_.-gun-_ --1- - .._|L|~L.--;|' _ :? _->_ 1 _ _ -_ ' 1. -- -~ ----M--- .':'§:_:-7_ :- I _1":'.-' '1 I o * IX O gnu l 1 .'__ . ct» P??? <1» _a?1 3"-.? §'.T1~. ' §33!%11_?1j?L'1I§_l'iQ?iJ;R ?i%?.9213.r '?.IF_,3°QFEE L that the Studentsfor Democ*_:eti.ca "Y"- Society . , u A -n" y regarded, came into being at e . -55- founding convention held June, 1952, at Port Huron, Michigan. '." . From an initial posture of participatory democracy" the line of the notional leadership has revealed e growing Marxist- Lcniniet adherence which currently cells for the building of .. a revolutionary youth movement. Concurrently, the program of "' ¢_ SDS hos evolved from civil rights struggles'to an anti~Victnem war stance to an advocacy of e militant enti~imperielist position ,__'- Chine, Vietnam and cube are regarded as the leaders of worldwide struggles against United States imperialism whereas the Soviet " Union is held to_bc revisionist end also imperialist. _ , __~ At the June, l959, SDS National Convention, Progressive Labor Party PLP! forces in the organization were expelled. As a result, the Notional Office HO! group maintained its National Headquarters at 1603 West Madison Street, Chicago, and the PLP faction set up headquarters in Cambridge, Massachusetts. This } 1 headquarters subsequently moved to Boston. Each group elected ., . ,4 its own national officers, which include three national secretcri and Q ctional Intetim Committee of eight. Both groups ele0.prit their versions of "How Left Notes" which sets forth the line and I} the program of the particular faction. The N0 version of "Ken v ' Left Notes" was recently printed under the title "The Fire Next. qr I - 92 Time" to achieve a broader mess appeal. _ i . '-92 -,3 Two major fections_heve developed internally within the _-Q1... NO group, namely, the Weatherman orRevolutionary Youth Movement 1*-~'.;' RYM! I faction, and the RYMII faction. Weatherman isaction» oriented upholding Castro's positionthat the duty of revolution .,i-; cries is to mete revolution. Uccthoruon is regarded by RYE II -.-._ ._.._ as an gdventuristic, elitist faction which denies the hietorical .v_?_ role of the working class as the base for revolution. Rim II maintains that revolution, although desired, is not possible under present conditions, hence emphasizes organizing and reisir the political consciousness of the-working class upon when they feel successful revolution depends. Although discleiming contr . . and domination by the Communist Pcrty,_USA, leaders in these tw .., g. factions have in the past proclaimed themselves to be communist .-.4,-»...'-. . __-.._,- and tpIB1lOW the precepts of e Marxist~Leninist philosophy, alo 11!,-3,"-. pror hinesc communistlines. '-'' i , _ i ' =nt§ c .'i :7 1:."-TI Y .- - 1 5''- :'e--7 -'7 l ?-~.~1"".- _ _-,_._.92 ~ APPENDIX c r -,-- = .-.__'_-_____ . __ , 1. -._. . '7 _- '-- . . - _:.'_-. Pl " -¥'?¢ e , APPENDIX bi? Z .-1.; 1' -. 5'ILE"P1-Z*92?T§J§?3Ii-212%-i@o9iiTI<=_'$@rv1E1Yo f_'- -:>3. -.'"-£1 - '7 - -' . It-F!-3:-3 I270 q that the PLPfa-.ction §Tf which is mo ommony known as '1e iorker.Studentf the PI 'nhoare Alliance er in is domin W. T1". 92'In .f> 92 ,'. _|'required _~1_ 1 _4._{,L.:-_ . _q _r92:- I ' ro- Leninist '._, .- ~:.¢ 1:1-_ allianceted andcontrolled by memoers 0_ 1., Q to identifythemselves the with pro-Chinese Marxist- '- --=7-1; philosophythe of PLP. They advocatethat an 4 gee between workersand students is vital to thebringing 92 aboutofa revolution in the United States. » _ -- I - SDS regionsand universityand co1lege~chaptcrs, .,_'_ -_'_ -J although operatingunderoutlines'of the SDS National the . 1~E :=' Constitution,autonomous are end in' eturé freetocurry out - I independentof thisautonomy reflective policy internalstruggles local of conditions.reflectingtheBecause major t fectionel interestsof SDShave occurredat thechapter level 1 since thebeginning the of 1959-T0school year. . 0 1 '9 A characterizationof PLP is attached. i .. _ _- _~ ,, I . ' 1 . .5... o _.'='-5 »_" -' 1 , -:61 in-ti 92- * ' - - _.,...... 4-a. _ _ :.___.__...-.-.a-J-- ~*~--' ' "* ' F? ~ -'.' ':".' _, ,__, _ __--~..-.._~.--.-_-i-._ . - V , -Q-IL » -$£< :_ . C APPENDIX 1'7. ~';'._' .::_Ii 1; _ .__, I- 1, _- -_ 1. , 1.._._.. "-_'Tv 1 "ii ,. .<':'=~.r, ._-92_- , ,_-,. . ._|_.'|» ._-. - ,i». 1 -.-_, ry. ¢ '91.". 92 - ' - . .1 0 - 0L 13'P C TT'5:1TZ§'i"'i§'I§f -l92 .'u-.-92a--.1:-'. .uT.J.'-i.'.. -'- .';T':"92T? --I 92- r I - ___'~_ ||'_A_-- -_ --- .~~ :;--?_ -- -. _. 'W V 9 4- .-.i.- I -» 1 ' " i'heRoz: Your};5.':?.r:-.=::.*;" o zltion, ci c-y 'i. ue.s¬ny, - April 20, 1955, page 2?, roportod that o non party of _ _ jail?! "revolutionary socialism" was forrally founded on April L8, on 1955, under the name of the PL? which had been knoun'aothe wr- Progressive Labor Movement. - ' -1- - uuuzui I5! -.v92.92_' to tho article, "Tho Frogroooive Labor .E Uovomcnt was founded in 1952, by Hilton Boson and Hortinor_ Suhzer after thzy were expcllcd from the Communist Inrty of tho Unitod States for uosortodly following the Chinese i%.@ Communist line." - " - ' * 1 ' 0 " 92- J- -um: the 1- "511 hold it on" o on an York City, Kn i to June u as which tin: the PL? remsscrtod its objective of the cstgoliohucnt of n militant working cinss . I " novowant based on Horxiso~Eoniniom. Ehis in to be acconplisl _ -_ -'5 through tho Pawty*o ovcr»o11 revolutionary strategy of raisi -1: , the-consciousness of the pooplc and helping to provide ideological lcadership in the working class struggle for state power. A» ' C " ;.-"at at the SecondIL'."."i1io:::*.1 Contontion_hi"ton iooon no¢_un:1iH osly $e~e10cted Hotionelm Chairman of the PL? and Levi Iaub, Fred Joromc, Jarod Israel Uillion Epton, Jacob Roman,Joffrey Gordon,and HalterLinden I _ were elected no the Notional Con ittoo to load the PLP until _;_1 92i_- tho n:>.:=."t convention . _ - w? I I I; . ho PLP publishes "Progrossivc_Lobor," u bimonthly magazine; Uorld Revolution," a quarterly periodical; and .2: _ -, »-t "Cha11cnge~Deo£fio," a monthly nsuspoper. "T"i-7-_.= ' The Lpril, 1969, issue of "Chollcngc~Dssafio" sets 1. forth that "challenge is dedicated to the peoples fight for 1-o%$ £23 -'- a new nay of life-~uhcrc the working men and woman control ";92Ea?M6 .-.;. their own homes and factotics; whore thuy themselves make up the entire governusnt on every level and control the ;,' .- 92» 92 e 92 .~,_»-r In T ,-F!", FT"-1.2: Refer lo 0 Pi! 1' No. , , »i:- .3 -- C-~ -i Ni J __i_ | ~_pn1--cl ' 1 Title .-._.._._-I . 1 Z. 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Page19 of the late city edition of the "New York Post", a daily New Yorkcity newspaper, dated March 13,1970, containedan article captioned, "war F"~" ° lit on Priorities", This article reflects that JerryD§ubin andE5513 Hoffmanappeared attne endof the _ I "1 0 97 senators for Peace and New Priorities rally, N .-1; . -age-1 which was held at Madison Square Garden, New York City, on the evening of March 12, 1970. A copy of this article _-_. 5.1.1., follows: ..-..--.._- ii 1! ,_.,,__.__._-_-; " en This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the Federal Bureau 01 invesuibatiuu FB IJ. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned *1 . ' .7 to your agency; it and its contents are not to be 1» *5-?"?"57. .;s~ .-92: *.Z .5 1- - at distributed outside your agency. mm ' ,/7e,--5'!/... *-_ _.-1-_.-..---at-ea. ._ I ."-.1 r. -' . K- ._: _ 92_ i u----' " -- P . _..- __ 92|' Q-1:1-'O i . . C3 , i '. - L1 , -~ 2"-~. .92 -_. - §r ' 92I :¥!IA vs,-.-,-,.- , " ' Jerry Clyde Rubin; -pin-1| .r_,,_.1 » Abbott Howard Hoffman 4! f l ! Y-. Iii-aunt ClippingIn SpaceBelow! _ _ __ eeg 4 92 1 i 92 i - .-.-_._,____ 4 A I M -mi." 1 U.ési'_F@'if _ _v *;_i______'_ W _ W W 77 - __ _ _ _ _ 7:;; j_ ' ~ _ 1, V; < E! l-p-I--@-I--I- -n-niif»_ ,-._..--»--.. - - _-__,_ - * '~77 ,.._ W ,7. .1.1 -r ¢I ¥*7-1-Ti"*" " @ Il_nlil lhey 92~.-eng org,the i i rally was imifieli. But nin y Ef B - iml$ 9292'll.l.I/m5 people 9292':1llu'dout during the _..| The peacemovement is el0:=j,r92_r; speeches,and others _ -..--wg--¢---_~..-..-...'. . .; alive and united on the need herklecl. llov.-ever, many el 101- new prioriiies but split the ymmger members oi the Indie-ale pegs, non» oi Ea oirer what these ii.-ieriiies I .-.-unllrllnnrn ll t gr-".1-.1..92,nan ui.-nol nn VI -.--u GHQ giewlpaper, elly and lime-i u gre and how they should be 5E:92gr*. liremliy was attend- reached. - . ed by lx.'t9292'een10,000 lmll ;Jen-y Rubin, speaking at 12,000 peopie- ~about hall the 1 the "1970 Senators for Peace": Garden's caparllyn . _¢'7Q.,.;i//' aed New Priorities" rally :2 Hughel characterized U101 Madison Square Garden last 'I'92 ixon Administrationas ii . night. represents one ex- x "government that It t-hi-1' -in treme. He said their V- R! time reprcsmiis anoi her ti1rc0_- ;i"};re:iter tlunger from i'.b- Rs--re_:;re: r . 0 w 1] I LI r, -1 . Asset Roman nor:-mu mm ARL PRINCIPAL susa ct on cs %, vq}. 7% SM-ANA KEY ACTIVISTS O0 IY ETD S wsrm Hm rm THE F HT STJOHNS UNIVERSITY BROOKLYN CENTER; BROOKLYN, QY 92 STUDENT UNIO HAS SPONSORING A SPEECH BY ABBIE HOFFMAN BEFORE THE STUDENT BODY OFT!-IE UNIVERSITY S; AT THELVENOON, INSTANT DATE IN THE GYMNASIUH OF THEUNIVERSITY -Ll LOCATED AT IIIBE SIX SCHERHERHORN STREET, BROOKLYN IY- E 5* 13] E BK-103 mm T ou xnsmn one nun on nus mm: g:_::;:_.- -__"'-:7 .-I3T A Q _ Axrx 1"-" _'7'! PPFICES -¢-;- 133.01, E:§_f§ . _ " TA " .'. 7I1TG .-c~LqAp<- - """."i¢-;§.;..:5 ' - ""1 ' Q ts 9,5 B19 _|g.a::;4_Ji:lS #~ 92 _. r-1 _.___._, .-.->-.._ a AZ~ I § PAGE TWO . " - .c ABBIE HOFFMANSPOKE BEFORE APPROXIMATELY SIX HUNDRED MEMBERS . M3 I OF THE STUDENT BOD&*IN THE GYMNASIUM OF ST JOHNS UNIVERSITY BROOKLYN CENTER NINE SIX SCHERMERHORN STREET BROOKLYN NY FROM 1" 1 ELEVEN FORTY FIVE AM TO ONE PM- HOFFMAN IN HIS REMARKS SPOKE MAINLY ON THE CHICAGO SEVEN TRIAL AND THE OUTDATED COURT SYSTEM. HE ALSO GAVE HIS GENERAL VIEVS ON RELIGION AND THE DECADENT SOCIETY IN AMERICA. HE DID NOT ADVOCATE ANY VIOLENCE DURING HIS SPEECH AND NO INCIDENTS OR ARRESTS WERE MADE» I HOFFMAN STATED THAT ANY FEES RECEIVED WOULD GO TO THE APPEALFUND FOR THE CHICAGO SEVEN WHICH VILL COST APPROXIMATELY THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS» NO ADMISSION HAS CHARGED TO THE STUDENTS ON THIS OCCASION ALTHOUGH A FEE HAS PAID TO HOFFMAN FOR HIS APPEARANCE. 1n- IN ANSWER TO INQUIRIES FROM STUDENTS HOFFMAN STATED THAT DONATIONSCOULD BE TURNED OVER TO HIM AFTER THE MEETING. 3 END PAGE THO 0-1 -,1 7. -92 I . .92 ..}A -' - s". I b» P "' -: *-" - ~- -1 I'll , .~_-- '1?-D792~7"-92 [ , U1 .' n ~ D 4 92 p C n 92 f PAGE THREE _ _ . HOHEVER, IT HAS NOT REVEALED H09 MUCH HAS DONATED IN RESPONSE . f to rxxs APPEAL; ~- ; Arfin HOFFHANS srzzcn A auzsrxan AND Aaswsn PERIOD roLLouza' nuazns UHICH an PARRIED ausstlons PUT to HIM BY some or was STUDENTS PRESENT. 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L r".T- O .-to .-1 .-1' This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the Federal Bureau of Investigation FBi!. It is the property of the FBI E id loé é wuss to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. I 1 I .,,., , ,'If"; .1 /¬¬ m¬§.§§/9 1 I - . ' ~.. I I . K Abbott Howard Hoffman David Frost: One of the currently most controversial men in America and around the world, . . will you welcome one of the leaders of the Chicago Seven, Mr. Abbie Hoffman. 4 -,. Applause! gin?-92-nu Abbie Hoffman: Is this the Jury of my peers? 4 1 David Frost: How do people usually react to you Abbie? -. ADD1B Hoffman: what people do you mean, there are lots' DJ of people here. 92.' "'~. ' David Frost: wen, Abbie what sort of reaction do - you get from people as you go about? ._" ' Abbie Hoffman: Well, I think there are like two reactions E -' E11-92 -| i. -' . I think that older people say that you 1 look much better with yourhair cut, and I think that younger people say that it 1' was a crime; and I think that it symbolizes i I the split in America. David Frost: How much hair did they cut off? EiQ Abbie Hoffman: Hell, actually they shaved my head but this has grown back in a week. ; _ Frost: H .[. David All that in a week? _ . ' . .. Abbie Hoffmane~ Yeah; its a fancy unintelligible!. The ., barber was probably the hair cut stylist, i it was about the bloodbst in penal history. I mean they had to handcurf us and drag 51;. us down four flights of stairs and tie I1-. kl-I +n ww . +hn vaiwp . nhnir -ulna-I-up w-an-n and fha -i-. barber - -p - -'------_ was an-.- innate and uh-- m hair was quite long pr and they had me on the floor handcuffed _.r and the guards pulled n heir up by the vi-92. pigtail and said to the barber some down and shave his head and he refused, he was ., .-*.~x.- an inmate and when we got into the chair Err! , ,-_?' i_ 2. : Y $2¢ 3 '3'? TI 92 I I ' ' 4 - K. ! I Abbott Howard Hoffman '..' they handcuffed us and he said when the warden turned around that I'll wet your .92_.-.-1.- hair down and so they wet our hair and shaved it...you know he shaved it a little The sheriff, he went around with our shaved heads,sortot like John the Baptist heads on a plate, showing it to Republican fund raising dinners showing pictures of my shaved head! and saying that the Republicans get results. He has little packets of our hair that they are rattling -.0-a an oft for Republican fund raising events. -. 1 Chicago has quite its own scene working, I i rbof like the Philistines control, but actually they control the whole country. 1 But I think the hair cuts of these seven Samsons are going to result in the destruction of the temple in the same way that they did of old. .3 David Frost: Would you be disappointed if people didn't do things like that to you, don't you set out to provoke people? Abbie Hoffman That's an interesting question, cause I 3 ' was on a British interview show and I did an impersonation or you in which I ii asked that very question. Impersonation - Don't you believe that your tactics actually bring on a wave of repression and create a police state in which you are actually battling against .! David Prost: Fell I suppose. Abbie Hoffman You know tomorrow is the anniversary of the Boston Massacre, the 200th anniversary and I'm from Boston, so if you try and reenact it you might not get the sane -arr Q response. --.1 ? 11-1-EIFIII-II-IQ ?;'~:r'-_=~7 -- ,,T~r - 3 - _ I - D ,.:_92___-!--3»-r;-,-s. -.1 if P 92.- I Abbott Howard Hoffman $ xf -, '- _i _T ,;;_. 757 Q ¥ David _-t.,,.4_.__- _ A Abbie Hoffman: 1' 4- 4.. David -.1-I nu F1% .2 ' ' ...i.1 4- I. '5Q ' _ ' x... *5 Ir J. W -92p 4 4; .7. --in a 9 J I r _., n 1:.u. . J I!» |I92_~'-: -ar Ho, no absolutely it waa...... ? --'7" l:_92 ,_ I think demanding your constitutional ._; V rights, the right as Bobby Scale did, the right to defend yourself, its the first time that I can underatan that it can be termed an antic. What I an saying is specifically not the question that you do the impersonation of which you call slaughter but the different question, don't you actually want to provoke some reaction to you? Isn't that your campaign? E '1 I . 92.. IL -I .- I Q Abbott Howard Hoffman ¢ means that we were guilty of a state :92- e . - -3 .~ .=.~--~- of mind,rectuelly the evidence against ___-.,_-, us is three speeches, two of mine which E were press conferences. I don't know | how you incite newsmen they're not the revolutionary fcrce in America. David Frost: What was the moment in the trial that you were proudest of? = Abbie Hoffman Hell the lest day clearly, when the uh.. the sentences for contempt came down we 4-.-..1 felt that it was sort of a battle between I us and the Judge, because it had become 3 sort of like a personal feud uh... his demanding authority and our recognizing- f that that authority was in many ways legitimate. I mean here we were before e judge who for the last 2% trials get L 2% guilty verdicts, his attitude towards _L F . the defendant well you here in the court, rr_} like he's opening a candy store and you _ ere here to buy, so its Just e question - of Just how much time you get. So he had e clear record of finding all these people guilty and rightfully opening uh...when 1:-lowd- i-_. . the opening ball is thrown out, he right I Ava . away went after our lawyers. We felt - that there was, that we hsd...we did feel contempt for him, we did feel contempt for the court system as to the law which a put us on trial, and especially over like in Chicago event, where we felt it was a clear case of the victims being called -u the criminals. So the contempt in our .1 4 speeches was filled with anger, and defiance pp but when the sentence came and we were P convicted by the Jury uh...every where L sitting the five of us or the seven and the tee lseyers, I seen its not clesr i .._v_. 1 "A whether its the Chicago 5,7,9 or ten ~- "5. million, we were sitting there and our families were excluded from the courtroom '. =31< our friends were excluded, there were 3' E'1'. I '3; K1 I -'5- L 92 1. . _. {2} ' ' Abbott Howard Hoffman 1 ,. _V_., '.92f -.7 - '92 Q I fifty marshals in the room, there were ._ .r"' ;§ all the press and there was the Judge .=: tr and the prosecutor. And I remember that Tom Hanney remarked this was the ultimate in freedom of speech in America, we're allowed to say a few words to a press r'., which is going to distort it and to the Judge who couldn't care less, all he did while we were making the speeches was a_.._.- . |. -u thumbing through his citations getting -1.. ready to sentence us and the prosecutors were sneering. And that was the ultimate in freedom of speech, but at that moment I personally felt proud to be a part of the conspiracy and proud to be a part of another people. I kind of lost my . individual ego which is pretty big. E£_ e David Frost: would you resist the authority of any court? would you resist the authority of any court in fact? ~ ' . " '- -.-. Abbie Hoffman what? It's sort of a ntnvariable comunication. How's it going? .4 }_;¬' David Frost: would you feel contempt to any Judge in : ''7'! ." '1! any court, or would you agree to any . . _ ' court in America? d 4i a" _ Abbie Hof mul There are distinct problems in the court V system but the number oi arresm and the number of court experiences that I have E; ~ experienced, is that fundamentally that.... I think that fundamentally the idea of a trial by the Jury of your peers is an accurate and good idea, I mean the problem is how do you determine the trial by the Jury of your peers. For example, when we 1 were in county Jail a grand Jury came in r and the grand Jury in America that's -~.. _,e .,. responsible for people going on trial most of the time; the grand Jury came in, .' "- .n--K.-.2 C we questioned them, they were all white they were all over forty, they all had incomes of $20,000 and up, they all came 2 from the suburbs and yet they were in a C C I, - 6 _ 92_ F] . .- 92-I Abbott Howard Hoffman » 1 society in Cook County Jail, which is 90$ black, 90$ under thirty, you see; - ...-. and 90% from an income bracket other .. -- than theirs. It was like one nation was sitting in Judgement on another nation, .'Z _ l it was actually a process of colonialization. _',:."_""1 I think to understand racism which was a key point in the reasons for going to the .. Democratic Convention was one has to go 3.. - --as -' to prison because you see it is literally ...... -. a case of black and white. And I think theta what the seven of us have pledged ourselves to eliminate in this country 1- .=;.. - 1 more than anything else, I mean uh.. 92- 1 * here's my prison braniet, you know you.are r transformed into a number sort of like the telephone system, you get an area code in prison,m:h1e was 7001920. And we sort of pledged ourselves to the time when nobody has to wear any of these, and we have - done that. The same amount-of money that " was raised for our bail, we raised an equal amount to free some of the people that we were in jail with, and we've come back to live in New York to work exclusively on the Panther 21 trial. Because we feel that it may raise us more important to the revolution at our trial work. Our trial was your issue....it was the New . York Times issue. It kept complaining our antics, our antics and our defiance we were burying I'vehad trouble with r 92 ' that word ever since Khrushchev decided to use the tens! but they kept saying I . -.:-t . that we were burying the issue, you see - but the issues that they thought were o the issues were never the issues to us. 2;. < e aw_David Frost: what was the issue? ea; -<' +. 5 Abbie Hoffman: We teel that it is a struggle between <"s lire and death, we viewed it as a struggle :1; 1?; between our culture which is emerging a -2» culture that believes that free men and tree women have the right to walk on a = --' .' - 7 . _ V V T .. 4 -. .... _ ~-.__...-_.,._..,..{-,-92,.-. _.--- ,. -- - -.-- .-- -~.-n .e------ III I V .13 Abbott Howard Hoffman - o 1- --p free planet. We viewed it as that __! struggle with a dying death culture .-_. and thats represented by the government. 1 David Frost: If you had the power to fashion your .1-is country tomorrow, how would it differ? : .l .....,, Abbie Hoffman It would be heaven. I mean I'm a heavenist, I believe in heaven, and I an-if think that we could have it, I'm not the traditional kind or leftist and I'm not martyr that uh....I did not have a good time in jail, none of the seven of us did, they ran out or nails long before they got to us. I think we think that the revolution will come out of Jury rather than out of:sacrifice. we have e concept of a revolution which the i technology and the services are available i E .1 to all of the people come who may...all -. .. over the world literally heaven on earth; Ie think we can have it, we think the -_; _ technology particularly in this country. I mean I've been all over to universities as the Attorney General can tell you and Hr. Agnew and it seems that scientist not only know how to build a better mouse F' 5 trap but now can literally build a better mouse and the technology is available to E:-Hi. nrovioe for all the needs and all the services to do things like keep the rivers I 1 clean and keep our garbage and our garbage i values out of the rest of the world, and | .1 ee right ageinst that kind or systen that 1 does not allow that kind of economic system | _ to come into being. | i t David Frost: Hot all the people see the hippie movement . or whatever you care to call it as some- thing for the tiny minority, it your heaven on earth came about. How would life ,. be better for the other persons, out of 1 iew York, intelligible!, out of Chicago? 1 -. - :.. .". 3 3 ! - B - I J -I . __-...... -...-.--._....-._ .._._.___ . ___,. . -... _,_l, --. ._ = .- .__-e=f?,:_=,=-.______..,_,.._.'_____?,>,_.,~;,-.=-»-.-.. 92. I .4-. Abbott Howari Aotfman = i_! I Abbie Hoffman They would not have to indulge in that dirty word called "work". We demand 1 equal unemployment. . 4-n-I1 David Frost: Hell thats strange. How come you are not i working now, you love it so much? - . 1 .',-1 -ea: Abbie Hoffman we don't think that people ought to work, no... that doesn't mean they shouldn't struggle to do what they believe in, but ~133 1 you see this is a Protestant ethic which would combine with the rise of capitalism, because all of the people, like the ones .-~._-.4 that moaned, think that well people only i do things you know if they are threatened __ 1 if they re kept in slavery if they are I told they won't get into heaven if you don't 4 buy life insurance, keep your money in" the bank, we don't think that. People 92 - 4- --_-. are going to say whose going to pick up y i the garbage, you see but we don't see l¬Q the problem that way. Nobody says to a poet how are you going to write the poems . nan if you don*t get any money. I mean --n--n-up you don't say to a doctor what are you going to keep doing your work for if you. don't know or if you are not guaranteed _--'1-_ a lire insurance policy for the rest of your life. People really like what they "; 3 do, and we plan to destroy work and turn . ._/ everyone into an artist literally. David Frost: And who would pick up the garbage in tact? _,.-. Abbie Hoffman Hell there are a lot of answers for that whose going to pick up the garbage. You, the moener, that guy, the skeptic, the skeptics will pick up the garbage. David Frost: Hell, will you tell them tc or will they do it themselves? .155" '_' E ii§i3r¢*:.' -4 -9.. I IO I . l - _ e Fl Im- 92 . X I 92 . I '1, Abbott Howard Hoffman 92_ I 92.,_. , Abbie Hoffman Well they'll thins that its fundamentally " "_. ' important, so they'll do it. So they'll 92jI -I - 0,- QC- recognize things as garbage, see we _,- recognize a lot of things as garbage such W as nuclear weapons are garbage. David Frost: Uell..... if your going to carry on.-... Station Break! E Audience Questions! _ Q Unknown male: I was Just wondering, you abolish, what are we going to do go into a state of suspended animation? Hithout sleep, not eat because noboby you know....it wouldn't < work. A _....-1--is Abbie Hoffman Hell I don't mi," and 1 unintelligible! David Frost: You should have gone unintelligible! qn-any-u_-y Abbie Hoffman I would have filled them in. .. :_-..,»_--92 . Unknown male: I wouldn't have let them collect garbage! *5 Applause! -u Abbie Hoffman Theta cool. whet was the question? - David Frost: The gentlemen that's up here asked how -I are ye going to live if those men work? What are we going to do? - ~+~+ ,1? e 1 1 -;.".'.,.i - 1 I 92 . 1' ;4 .::.0- O 1 I,-H" --u- --9" -:7T" '~ . . I -1" 1'-; J."- - 10 - _- - -V - -- + "'7-'1"? - re-__---- a=>--_v=.----»._-qg- v-7-_--92-.--_, _._ - . _ I ~ he ,. -'* u Abbott Howard Hoffman I Abbie Hoffman: We're going to live. I mean I know loads or people that manage to stay swans 20 hours a day and keep busy without '-Q '..4 regarding what they are doing as work. ,-I a David Frost: Doing what sort of thing? ;~& Abbie Hoffman: Oh, they're doing what they went to do. when you do what you want to do when you enjoy it, its not work. I don't see §n" where its so complicated; but you see what you do....you see you have that as a vision...you have Utopia, heaven as -aw.-1 a vision and you create a society so 1f! that it creates more leisure time...... Oh, it don't make sense honey? Ask your daughter, she'il explain it to you. If she don't explain it to you she'll R-.92 cut your throat, then you'll learn! , . David Frost: Hell, lets Just ask one more question could you put your hand up please? i-L2 . i , The lady in the second ruw. Unknown female: Where did you work to get the money for the Jacket you have on? Abbie Hoffman: I stole this Jacket! Stealing is just a process of re-distributing wealth. We consider that property is already theft, Just in the same way as capitalism already _ is violence. The Jacket is really kind of funny, except in an airport when you go into the bathroom...I haven t figured that out, but I have most of this down pat. It was fun to have in the Jail with me, it reminded me of my hair. UILHIQWD 1811151.? 2 -. -: '.I-- ._r Q 7+ -i Abbie Hoffman: Ty. I * an.'J .- IL _ __ Q L Q. '1'l1Ey BIIUU ' 92 _ . _f St 3-- Abbott Howard Hoffman k. . - " '- '.;- = David Frost: who else had s question? 5:.7';L=T~. q Abbie Hoffman: You know two women on the Jury felt that = :-:1 we should have been shot in the streets of Chicago. .- P. Yes, yes you voted for President Agnew. 8I5 I t f. l-.--_.- ._, ee* David Frost: Lady in the front? Q . 1 Unknown female If nobody works, whose to teach the ~ ... young ones? 9 1%-1'1 ._. _; ------A-492_..__. HD1318 HDIIHRDS Teachers like whet they do, end doctors F"-:' 1 like what they do and there won't be any sick people. There ain't going to be any sick people, because there will be free medical care for everybody. You see, yeah honey, I was in a prison e year ego and I got hepatitis in Washington, J .' 1 wss.sick in New York but its ashsme to E_-._92-: get into a hospital in New York, if they the doctors, went to keep me in it costs $3500 bucks, now I don't think theta e very good system. r_|pu IIIII Unknown female unintelligible! to take care of him? Abbie Hoffman: A brother and sister. David Frost: Gentleman in the back there? Unknown male: How do you think that the trial will l. affect Judge Hoffman's future? ;_. =.__ _ ,. Abbie Hoffman: Hell, we.... e few days ego, one of the projects that we are involved in since F; . we are prevented by the government by " giving seditious speeches, we plan to A ms 4. make a seditious movie about the trial. Jerry Rubin and myself and Nick Ray who is rebel without a cause, teamed up and we are going to direct a movie callsd the "Conspiracy about the trial and we offered Julius Hoffman $100,000 to play f "1T*_;" himseli. And we are going to make that movie here in New York. J - 12 - e -< -- e _------_--.-...-.._..,.-...._...... _..__....-,,.._..,...... ,,.,....,_....-,._,-,..,_u¢-.... - 0 2'92. r 92 1- kn. -1 _.' <_, .92f '.' -- offman V':_" 92.-- Abbott Howard H .__..___._. .i" '- i xi .5 . ..!. .r--.0 -1 .- - Unknown male: If you don't like money how are you T-92_-..l going to make a movie? Abbie Hoffman: The people are going to play a certain number of riots! David Frost: Well, what are you going to do with the -4-~ ..- . money you are going to get tonight? 1.-. - Abbie Hoffman: I'll think I'll get stoned a little bit, and I think that I will give most of it to the Panther 21 trial that I have come to work on. -O -92 Unknown female: Throw him Off! * Abbie oifnanz Hey, David your familiar with it, you understand it, why don't we do it all at once! Unknown male! what would you say, kill then! nrrn Abbie Hoffman: who is the killing chorus over there? kl; You can kill them, you can tar and feather them, you can spurn them....its a real America! why not I'm e gook tron Vietnam, I'm a gook nigger, I'm a hippie nigger too, why don't you come and kill me! !'.'~Y-" ii 9 Let's take the mike over here shall we? *1 _ Bevid Frost: .-V. This gentleman here? Unknown male: Do you know what a gook is Mr. Hoffman? He's white Just like you and he bleeds Just the same way. Abbie Hoffman: Your welcomed to try man, you better have 1": a good brown belt. §:3 . a --J Unknown male: I don't need one. Ego -."-F5. ---?J .-"_ _ 4 "- _' E . V. | -13.- I . {_ 1 ~ J . 1! Abbott Howard Hoftman 1 Abbie Hoffman Sit down, sit down. .L_.1' Unknown male: I have about six hours...- .-. Abbie Hoffman Sit down, sit down, I'm the violent one You Just heard from the younger generation . J _-I Station break! David Frost: welcome back to the little theatre in mi New York. How tell me you talk about heaven on earth and so on, how do you feel about the fact that wherever you go you seem to cause a great deal of very, very violent emotion. I mean people criticize the speeches that divide the country. You appear to divide people, how do you Justify to_that? Abbie Hoffman Well, I do... how do I Justify in dividing people? David Frost: How do you_Justiry..... -,-p-In-In? Abbie Hoffman I'm a flower child, I don't understand the unintelligible! or devices. I don't know that people hold me responsible for what is happening in America. I hold people like you David, I hold people !f like you, I hold people like....many of the people that they themselves would consider people who are not acting in the best interest of the country, namely the liberal establishment. Papers like the New York Times, places like Harvard University, papers that think that 11'- institutions in America that think they D have a corner on the truth, that they understand everything, all the news theta tit to print and all that Jolly stuff. -. _ 1.- ._ J-U ,§_92y*._: -* - l w .2 r .- - 1h - .... _... _-..,_, .- ...-. .. .--1..-92_¢_,.--.--q~'1 - 92_ ' i L U ' Abbott Howard Hoffman M .10 1 | Ho, I don't feel any particular hatred towards these people that boo and yell ' 1 their heads and say kill him...thats not true that I don't hate you? I do have e lot of hate I mean they're four 1 letter words. FY.- _'j' "7 a-- 1- .-. Unknown male: You call yourself e flower child, I .'" wouldn't use four letter words like you ¢< use. _,. .0.-' Abbie Hoffman I mean e fly trep._ .,_, Unknown male: Because you applied that to the whole .- Q ! audience, that's not rair. Abbie Hoffman We1l..... Unknown male: Well just apply it to those uh.... ~ 1-||-nu you applied it before and you applied it to the whole audience. i.- » lbbie"Hoffmsn The only difference is that you can say | kill me, you know kill him and you aren't going to get five years in prison for it. I can say kill you or you can like kill the umpire you know figuratively and I already got the five years in prison for it. F Abbie Hoffman Ihat do you mean, what do you think we w were found guilty of? Honey, whet do you i . think the trial was about? -l .._' Unknown male: You were found guilty end you still..... r___ ,5 Unknown male: If you were in court the way you ere tonight J Q ! 4 you deserue everything you got, and more! {'11:-" .: Abbie Hoffman That's unbelievable. There's my sister . down there. we live together. the revolution is one big incestuous orgy. And she uh...when I was sentenced she got up I I Y - 15 l II K- I Q . I .~_ . Abbott Howard Hoffman I _ . y ',l.,_.* x '-,_-. '1 : ,'. and said'ke'lldance on your grave Julie" to Judge Julie, and... wait a second... that's okay you can interrupt but I didn't get to finish...but the Judge later said when he denied permission for any or our family to sit in, he said that "one young lady threatened to kill me . You see you'vegot to understand the difference in that kind of language, I mean was that a threat I don'tknow, it was symbolic it 1¢__4 was poetry. I have a book here, the book I was a key evidence a book that I wrote here in America! used against me to send me to prison. A book! A book that I wrote and published. Two television interviews like this was used to send me to prison. That's right. Well thats K true, its always easy to believe in free ' I speech when you have people come on that ' ! id like don't raise any controversial issues. Its easy to have it that way. Thats what America always had anybody who has said anything has always been shot or put in _-_-sq; prison. - David Frost: Is there anywhere in the world which approaches the ideal society that you would like to see? I mean is there any- D where you can quote us an example? Abbie Hoffman Hell, frankly I don't see one because I A don't seeany country having the technology that this country has and the importance and the relevance of that technology in terms or developing revolution, a post _ '. scarcity economy. But I do see the spirit in Cuba. J. my '*.' David Frost: It you had to pick one...... c .", ~ i r Abbie Hoffman I would like to but I travel first class -. i"1.,- u. '_f' if you give me the money. J 1 .1 David Frost: Okay, okay we got the message there! Do you have a hero? - 16 - L l I {J ' ' ._ _.._ ...j 1'-1'. Abbott Howard Hoffman Abbie Hbffman Well, I like the Marx's brothers, all of them, including Tal. I like them. I think that the revolution that we are talking about is about American as n- hamburger, the only difference is that .5 1': it has more meat. But my hero ranges from H.C. Fields to Che Guevara and Lennie Burce is tough. Qavid Frost: People say.... r Abbie Hoffman I line everyone whose for freedom yeah. ~.. David Frost: But, although you keep saylng its going to be heaven for everyone, it does seem as though you yourself like the idea of being part of a small minority and against Fun--use them. Do you wish that everybody was on your side or wouldn't you then be absolutely miserable if everyone agreed with you? I mean it seems to me that you encourage the minority feeling. K Abbie Hoffman What are those questions there? You ask me if I enjoy what I am doing? David Frost: No, I'm asking you if what you said that this could be heaven that this is fa e ~E an American revolution that you want to 1-' . i . lead, could it be heaven for everybody E 3 else on earth and so on. You very 2 . deliberately seem to some how to exclude {I ; most people. pl 4 1 Abbie Hoffman Ho I don't. You don't understand that. ._,. -. I mean you were speaking from a very controlled environment to an audience . ;'-F1,,_ to which young people and black people are excluded. I wouldn't say they're - 4 excluded, but its not within their culture. .9, . h i e;m Audience: Ho, no F - .-'17 .- L. I _ .-H , lhh T21 . rllrw ea _# 92 5. 1' 1 - -e Abbott Howard Hoffman l < Hhat do yon neon no, shat do you neon! .' I watch television all the time I know these shows. Do you think young people watch Ozzie and Harriet? Jackie Gleason? I mean what is on television? The only > thing that is interesting to young people is the news, because.... David Frost: Iou're not speaking to e young audience, its got black people and so on. Fl... Abbie Hoffman: Hot that many I don't think. Just try to understand a bit what I am saying. ! . 1'. -'. M -0 '4- _ .- David Frost: The lady in the fourth row? Unknown female: Mr. Hoffman I would be interested... ii ? Abbie Hoffman: Abbie. I . 3 . Unknown female: to know...excuse me Abbie...I would be L . 1 interested to know once you have Utopia [.13 what are you going to do with people who don't agree with you? Abbie Hoffman: Un..okey...I think that I would believe in a decentralized government decision making,mean I theif unintelligibleg want to control Texas you see, go do t. -4. :_, - You see I have never met discussions like -, , ,.,-; -. " , this and audience like this, people that -; .- I like their work. You see if I talked to somebody individually they could mean D that the boss is a drag, its miserable, conditions are rotten, I don't get bread and I don't have enough time enough what I want to do, they're nothappy to do I You see only a group therapy kind of drama like this that they have to come out and say alot. K 92 ' 7;"! ' ' 1. Abbott Howard Hoffman David Frost: Hell, how nuch.... _ '- - .92 .'. Abbie Hoffman: I think that they would have a good time. c-nil 1 David Frost: You think that everybody would have a good time? Pig Unknown male: what would they do all day? Do you think that they would be happy at doing nothing all day long? For the rest of their lives? _ __._. |l92_L.I_ UI_.l¢l_____ EDD]-B HQIIWRD: well, they would eat, they would ereete . _ ' art, they would have a relationship for what you call work as if it were art. They would say that it was a part or them, it was a part of expression of themselves /or as creative human beings. You see work is something...I got to do work, I don't do work I am going to tall out of society M l'm going to be called evil, dirty to be .l..i out on the street which is about the dirtiest place in America to be right now, because its all eck on the streets! All or middle class white America is in doors XXZIFP somewhere hiding in the closet you know while the kids are out in the streets so e ._;',. .= you know you have to reform your attitude '5!? towards work. I mean that will happen anyway. You just talk to your grandfather you know he'll say that you are Just goofing off all day because he worked 60 to 70 a day. David Frost:_ How much in the next few years do you think you'll end up unintelligible! in jail? . 4 1e-,- -_'- _"_ . i -.» "-_+ '_,,: 1 Abbie Hoffman: A week... sorry David .1 !-Jr ; How many of the next few years do you 93 David Frost: _- .4 ._ -'1- ff think you'll be spending in Jail? ' -1-" .1 - Ti m --<~- -- -r _-. . _ - 5 .1 l ',-P'-J ".. _-.9 ._19_ ,k __ __ _,, ,,._l .e--...¢._.,.._..-.1,--...-..-.-.4-. ,.-.- -.__ .-..w ..... E 92 92 I ." '- ' I _,> ,1 Abbott Howard Hoffman k R ...l-:H'_ _ G '1. -".'.. ,-.Abbie Hoffman: If you mean by your concept physical . -I .:- prison, probably quite a bit. I Just view most of America as a prison. Unknown female Why don'tyou get out? Abbie Hoffman: I em trying to do that and I encourage all -?if = young people to engage in Jail breaks t__. especially those who are in high schools IV , because they are the ultimate prison in Q...... - America. ~.p- 1 .& _ .. ..- 4_ David Frost: What about that light phrase.... or what does the phrase law and order mean to you? Abbie Hoffman: Its synonymous because law as I see it means tyranny, and it means...like you have law to maintain order and the order is defined by the people in charge. I've been arrested in the last... since the Democratic Convention I've had eleven arrests. I've been arrested for not fasten- ing my seat belt on a plane, for possession of a huge gun collection right next door }'F""" _ . to a police station, in a room that I tr. I don't even know and was never in, uh for wearing e shirt that looked like the _.»' American flag although my partner Jerry _'§ °"-S Rubin has a shirt made out of the Viet ' - Cong flag and he wasn't arrested. What is this....e Commie country arresting 1-r 1 a guy with the American flag and you don't take me! That's whenwe went up unintelligib I've beenput on trial for the books that I have written, speeches that I have given. I was once arrested in Mississippi for going __. through a red light in s town where there wasn'ts red light in the whole town. And I was beaten for seven hours in Mississippi. The Sheriff said "well boy, you'll have to V get your vision checked if you don't think we have red lights in this town". And I soon came to learn that Mississippi was all of America and law is used that way. -1 I L - gg - Q 92. 92 ' 1 O Abbott Howard Hoffman KI f 1., r "1'--_,-. Lennie Bruce who I consider to be a __. 1' -: great man and a great revolutionary he .,=.. was killed by an American war. Lennie I Bruce said that in the halls or Justice in America the only Justice is in the hall. And I relate to it that way. * David Frost: Do you think that there is any evidence coming back to your heavaipoint, looking at.... you've written about Woodstock and about the amazing phenomenon that -T" was. But than again there was that we- Rolling Stone concert in Ca acorna with the Hells Angels and all the roci, was .é-' there any evidence to suggest that your world would be heaven? Abbie Hoffman No, no. There's a spiritual and emotional feeling but I would hate people to consider the evidence because if they 3i Q considered the evidence they would be E_; doing what the prosecutor in our case and the Judge told the jury to do which in fact can't be done. I mean here was a trial for example in which...perhaps it was a case of rationality versus » 92 emotionality and that kind of debt unintelligible! versus life process as sure as Bobby Seals a black man who I is demanding the right to be defended by a lawyer of his choice whose got the right .» to defend himself which is a fundamental L... right in this system of law and so demanding this right the Judge eventually tied and H*K] chained him in the courtroom and when he ¢ did this and the Jury came back in he said "Oh don't regard anything you see ladies ._-a -5 and gentlemen, Just the evidence of the *3 . -' case, Just consider the evidence". For O five and half months of this trial they weren't to consider how he looked, they a weren't to consider any of our attitudes -;-T: l or the attitudes towards Mayor Daly or -4 -'21 - -s- -..» e L < _- -_ I-1- V ,-.,-.._.- w ;-4,; _~_~=.----_--' - < §_ ; ." I I ' [Xi .1 92_ .! I Abbott Howard Hoffman ".1 = _92 . ~. Vietnam or racism in America or young people or pot, all they considered was ~. .- the evidence. And note of them did it noneof them did it because it can't be done. I don't think that people should consider the evidence ever, they should Just look into their hearts and conscience and do their thing. David Frost: The gentleman in the front row? Do you IQ. 4- want to ask yourquestion? Unknown male:" How do you think the Judge should have acted according to_your behavior in court? - Abbie Hoffman Well, I think he should have done what -;' he did because thats what we told him '1 , to do. We picked the Judge! R. -._. s David Frost: What do you mean? Well, because if we had a more liberal Abbie Hoffman type Judge you see you could give him the y--r-s-.--=r law and give him the case stacked against us uh...we would have been found guilty and people wouldn't have been outraged. - That why. oi Unknown male: Is it not true that you harassed the Judge? Abbie Hoffman Ho Unknown male: You did not harass the Judge? c. . V" §. Abbie Hoffman No - K L Unknown male: Did you call the Judge names? ibbie Hoffman Yes _ ...'- ,-.=.5-,- fawn - 22 - K - .,, f*? , v-Q-H . K. J Abbott Howard Hoffman . _ , n Unknown male: . 92 .'- How should have the Judge reacted towards s -r.i you? <3 Abbie Hoffman: ll The Judge called us names. The Judge said....well there is a transcript coming out and it is an edited version, I called "Tales of Hoffman and there are . .-vi a number of books by me, there's the movie, you won t believe what the Judge did! The Judge would say things in front of the -.--pa; Jury for example "Mr. Kunstler you're ___ i from Raw York you uouldn t understand the way we do things here in Chicago". He always made a point of that in front of 1 - 92 the Jury. He would say "Why don't you 1'": ' 92 J carry on the defense if you call it that", bx things like that. No we harassed the Judge, you&eright...we gave him five years in prison, youze right. 1 v ea. David Frost: Might it.... Abbie Hoffman: The Judge is a millionaire we zave...we sentenced him to die in the Drakes Tower Hotel. He eats $500 plate dinners for Furl!-I-Q fund raising events. i-. Unknown male: Abbie, are we inclined to believe that the Judge called you derogatory names before you called him derogatory names? F Abbie Hoffman : I mean the first day... Unknown male: Are you saying that he called you b derogatory names first? 1. ,, Abbie Hoffman: Qn the opening day oi the trial...it I u was picking a Jury, it was much like people like yourself, 1500 people all 4-p spread out...you weren't allowed to .-V, ask them questions, our lawyers weren't allowed, the Judge asked U18!!! if U118? could be fair, at that a part or the audience got up and walked out. They said they walked out because they heard them read the indictment and it sounded like we were already guilty. A black ._-92: 7 man raised his hand and said "I don't r know if I can be fair because my wife ? -23- 92 92'l' . - Cg.- ~!'92. "12:-. Abbott 'HowardHoffman -~.1-:.- ..;.. : 5" . _ : worked for Mr. Foran the prosecutor about six years ago" and the Judge ~ leaned over and said "Oh was she a .4 domestic"? You don't understand but the black people do. -; _ David Frost: The last question? Unknown male: I don'tthink that this country is all er.---~ that bad because in any other country you wouldn't get away with what you are doigg ontelevision ofspeaking your min . David Frost: That Gentleman's remark is one hundred per cent true. '- "Y-#7. Li Abbie Hoffman No I don't think theta true at all, I. Just got five years for being on televisio D what the hell are you talking about? You made up that myth because you were taught that in high school, that we have freedom of speech in this country. ._ It '_ Unknown male: Its off the top of my head mister. Abbie Hoffman I'll tell you what freedo of speech is. I'll go down to a high school here in New 5 2*. '1. York to talk, you want to see 500 cops show up? Unknown male: This is Just a discussion, what are you getting mad about? - 1' -=| Abbie Hoffman He can see young peop1e....I think that young people ought to respect the same _..= ~=<1 kind of anger when they hear that kind -1 of pablu pushed out! - If Unknown male: You're criticizing it one hundred per cent 0 2 Abbie Hoffman Yeah, I Just came out of prison and my u head was shaved and given speeches, thats '_- 51 why I have persecution complexes. I don't I ,4 think you could because you live in the _-_.; .1. -:-.-, suburbs and you make $25,000 a year and you're white. David Frost: He'll take a break there, thank you I Abbie Hoffman and thank you to all of our audience for Joining in. - 2h - - ' 3 U 92. ' h_ :__! '. Ills I O Abbott Howard Hoffman __ . Iw A characterization of the Black Panther Party is attached hereto. _.._. I .1 aavzsedMarch on 15,5,55, thatGroup N ngrouse Television, 240 West h tn street, New york City whichI organization owns and produces the David Frost Show, on March 2, 1970, contracted with Abbie Hoffman 0»-. to appear on the David Frost Show for $265.00. s. ,9. m ~. 92 92 1 . Mia ,-F.--_- . a 3'-i . .n I ,-0 .1!- J5 i. 3; -95.. I 92' Q 92 ~ " '1' Qua. Abbott Hows?! . Hoffman ..'-" 1 :'_I .: . -|'- ._ .-.92_.. APPENDIX Q -A ,1 . '_ ., | .--I -, I 1:. _. -_. .:;f_ ." J- BLACK PANTHER PARTY . -1 Also Known As §l§¢kiP?9E§EF,P ?tY f9 .3§11:P¬{e 59 According to its official newspaper, the Black ~../a Panther Forty {BPPE was started during December, 1966, in :- ,' Oakland, California, to organize black people so they can take control of the life, politics and the destiny of the black community. It was organized by BOBBY SEALE, BPP balm '-- | Chairman, and HUB! P, HLHTOH, BPP Minister of Defense, - 4 NEWTON was sentenced in 1968 to serve 2 to 15 years after '~-§ being convicted of manslaughter in connection with the killing or an Oakland police otficer. ? - The official newspaper, "The Black Panther", which further describes itself as the "Black Community News Service" 92 states that the BPP advocates the use of guns and guerrilla tactics in its revolutionary program to end oppression of the _ _ I92 5? la Residents of the black community are urged to --QZQZL black people. arm themselves against the police who are consistently referred to in the publication as "pigs" who should be killed. - uu--pg-I "The Black Panther" issue oi September 2, 1955, contains an editorial by BPP Minister of Education, GEORGE MASON IURRAY, which ends with the following: /" "Black men. Black people, colored persons of America, revolt everywhere! Arm yourselves. The only culture worth keeping is a revolutionary culture. Change. Freedom everywhere. Dynamite! Black Power. Use the gun. Kill the pigs everywhere." Included in the introduction to an article appearing in the October 5, 1968, edition of "The Black Panther" is the- statement, "...we will not dissent from American Government. is will overthrow it. ' -I -o I 0 1 -. 1...! I - "' Issues of "The Black Panther" regularly contain .o quotations trom the writings of Chairman HAO Tse tung of the ¢? % People's Republic o! China and ieature !nO's statement that _ .1 "political power grows out of the barrel oi a gun." ' .¢q- .-.. - I _ 92' '92rb;_e -92-. .. ._n.|92 r v"9* - _ 11. ,._-3. The national headquarters or the BPP is located at 3106 Shattuck Avenue, Berkeley, California. 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How York HY!, wee sponsoring a speech by Abbie Hoiimen.r:92;- Q,- before the student body of the University at 12:00 noon on March l9?0, in the gymnasium of the University . .L Qn'nn-.-mcn~hn1~n §I?*.P¢».¢=921'. , Pn'nn rT'l92rI"g_ NV- wei 1; ._n.. 92...¢-ho...-.,.-. l¢92I492-JET ....------,,- , --.-.- -Io92r92-4?-92l92!92-I 1nr92§:|1"¢:ri Ln.Q .H } ..:~ : so--*""" - <, __, 1_~ ?*;i .i ;81; a ; -. ie Ho;fman_s _ ore_aPoroxioetcly '.'.":> I 2 500 members of the student body in the gymnasium 01 st. John's University, Brooklyn Center, 96 Schermernorn street, ~': ~ ~11 .._.-' ".-' Brooklyn, NY, from ll: M5 p.m. to 1:00 p,m. A. 3. ,1 that Abbie Hoffman in remarks spoke mai I§ 0n the "Chicago Seven" trial and the outdeted court system. He also gave his general views on reiigion and the decadent society in America. He did not ' 1 idents or ! .92.r'i92rt 92f92!92','1 .1u92v92-mug, 92-1. ; nnu vin'Irnr~n v .--.1.-.---v ----- din- iggxz-' D - 1315 gngggh ; {ind {IQ inc arrests occurred. ' ' - M 1.1--.- E. J1 11.1, 4 ' 92 - _,.¢ A _v.-e ,_ ~. . ... I ~p- - vi -__-.'I _I - 92 ,92.=,-. 2-ii '5' * ?*'-'§: ,.:-9292 i. 1.1: -1- K 77 N r x . .1-I. |._ .,: 92 _92 4...... __, ...._.r-e-_ A s- e7 e :,4, .- s as -:~,:, .~L" A 92.~.'.92-.¢..¢'a.-Q-- ?""'--.:_;J.¢.|'-A : is --- -- _+- .- ,-_e---=-92_- -1*: -Ltd-4-...4_ -_ __.. 2.1 '..".-' - 1"" -:- -- F- .}'_I - - 1 .. '1"'a?.'-. *2 Q:-- -.~,- ".*. Q. Abbott Howard Hoffman ' ' '' _ '4 '1? 519 said that anyr.;-net fees t.a Abbie. e rece ved would go to the Hoffman appeal fund for the "Chicago seven", which will cost . 92I approximately $300,000. 1'. *_ -2-._., was charged o he students on thls occasion, although a fee was paid to Abbie Hoffman for_his appearance. . hat in answerto inquiries from s-. tude t 4. Q n1 O1 man s a-o h a tdonat . i ons u c uldo be turned over to him after the meeting but that it was not .1 revealed how much was donated in response to this appeal. "'51 W921= after W-"-8 P@*1"w~n*s speech, aquestion andanswer periodfollowed during-which Hoffman parricd questions put to him by some of the students present. Attached hereto is an article appearing in a publication concerning Abbie Hoffman'sappearance at St. . ,__ John's University,Brooklyn, NY, on March 18, 1970. The K article captioned, "Abbie, with Quip and Jest, wows Crowd 4 at St. John's" appeared in the March 19, 1970, issue of the "Daily News", a New York City daily newspaper. =--2 , ; o 1; . ,- .-0._| = ~ , ;-~.,_92-T; ' '_».7-_ -ax.» an . -; -' : ¢'52,~.~_. ._ L1.=_. I . 1_.3: -I 23.," 1._...... _ 1-. eHI II'¢- w §I: :_P;'J92'J. . .~-:5 - 2 - -., - _ -y. "5 I . | 1 '92 I 0 I Q - I 1 P - ;~:-'- '.|*.=-v. Y-lb-f-7' CO 2-; '2. I :1 '92J! '1" i ,. ' _.. .1 - Abbott Howard H0ffman'_ - _¢ -:'_ i';' . _,_ i | Svbtf. C ;.~;_.v l.'.c.ua.2Clip,» 1., n . _ 'L Ai_i_ 1-_.-E -J-_ '.-.*.=.- ;. -' I AF .4 '~ ..!n'EzM.921_'Aq'- '1 - --_.| ___ .__-n-..-.._ .. -- .-_ .1 . b. _'_. rt 7 1f._ _- ------ _,92 - -. . 1 /'-. l , . .-J: vi] . ___T ' ...1 é --../- ,_...--,.--. -... - ---by u- -- r . ..1-" ,_. ___ - _- -_.- ' *"'-"" 1 . . .1... _ , . _. - _-1/ -. -' - .. .- . r_r_" q P#'r'9;"'I-I|I.92":_ If '/n-q : I;> .' ,. 5 .. W i r 5|-. * I? .-'1"92_ '0 =7 F? -. 0-II 4-I ~31. /-I~ I. I '4 ~ , - '_____-4L______-- ' ll"' '9292 i . .'92'-.1 -4 - ~."I---Ll .|-I 5|::|92g puqc, norm 0! ,:. -. ii _ Il'5pClpl - I, clly nurt nan-.1 . . 92..'..' '"._-I 5..'...- 92-...-Jf ."_ .**92 _J i. If-;.' 1&1-'.:{ 92'. - -. .'- '-;-. | u 1; :1 . - .:.f : .-1 -I U: "id"! I -t S'- Q-92-..-1 |_.-/'-..} _/ H n ._ ._/2 fir: l'. . 7 9.,- F 1.1 . ¢ .'"'.'.1:".§.' £0 2 .:-';92.::'-'.-.m' vs] I 1.. |' -n l;l l'| 1'L'»-..---- fr---p ; 11 i ;l. :v 5 _ M} -5" - i'r.'.:m, mu"- of u; ,7. .92;. 1;. v.-.>.;'92.': : FBI I DG18: . . - '7' 1'~.9292-| L7_", 92".D .2; Trnnsrnltthe following m _ _ Typean plainlczl or coda! - ,. .':'. .~-1 -_ .5 . ::. i f I I o92"" -.._ .92:-' _~.- .1f_-'f'~-Wu _ AIRTEL- . 0 P 5556122 q--n--._-_1_¢-_-¢1.,_.|- q--- -|--p-||--pa--|-1-_n.-1-_--_T0: nnuacron, FBI DI'{i'"lJ'-- i L0ro,!/ sac, KANSAS cm! 00-13574! __ _ - P- I F FROM: - _ 0 ka P5-tr SUBJECT: ABBOTT HOWARD HOFFMAN, a T Q// ] s- - no SH - ANA KEYACTIVISTS! 3'1 . .7? O0: New York . - . - ' . A ARL PRINCIPALsusmcr! -ig_-'.=' ;= 00: Chicago . - ¢ }s %'.3_» .-' ":5 # Reference Kansas City airtel to the Bureau dated _ *1 -"'-!e':l~5»-l. 7 - ' 3/6/70. - " I .0- .--vs; .-. to speak at EU on April B 1970, 8:00 1P.H., Hoch MinorityAuditorium, Opinions sponsored Forum oi by'?;he_St'uT:1¬i1'F_UEi?>n K0, Hoch Auditorium Ictivitiesis located _ L -/. on the K0 campus. . _ ;= ~ item ! RECJZJ /7&3.1 APRZBIB 2 /A Bureau/ 100-449923! /- mm! I ':I 92 ,_ _ ; _ ._h| 2 - Chicag0. 76-28! AER!! .; _ 2 4-- New KansasY0rk- 00-161445! City - 100-1-13574! AER!!.. 1! . L1 - 100-12415! cmavm. or onrmmmrs! In. - .____ ._ _"~_i r¢- - ; ' ?;;:.. _.- .lf_-. . _. 12 V/7/>0 .1--g ;.;- : .;- i - u Sent ______._-- M Pot ______.-- -"' 9 U. I. Iyf uill/H"' p].'Dl'l'D UITICI. : {Ill O - l-I4! U-U _ Approved: ._. r .:92 _..-.-. .__, . ... _ ._-__ ...... _... .-.-.-._., _t. ..,...,,..V._..-_, -» ,.- G -_,__-___ ...A ..__. -_. ...'q_. K I K - l Q C ,1 . . L! .1-,'f.:._.. '1! ' -< ._"L",92 .'. ,:_"_ '. KC 100-13574 m0 V 0:-A Pr I111 19vo 1%. Kansas Ieslyan University,'Balina, Kansas advised that subjecthas been invited to speak on April 9, 1970, a=oo r.u Kansas ieslyan University, Saline, Ehnsa§]*1E"the SAME fl. - Chapel on campus, Subject was invited and sponsored by the Student Council. However, there has been no contract Signed to date, and the Student Council representatives 4--n-In-I ¢--1 are uncertain as to whether the contract will be signed. Ii subject appears at RU to speak, coverage 01 his speech will be made by taping his speech, which will ,&e§ be handled by established sources at RU. UACB no physical surveillance of HQFFMAN will be made, and in view oi tact speech is scheduled to be made on campus, UACB, no ___92__ Bureau personnel will be present at the speech, '_ _. LEKDS: cnxcaco DIVISION: E am caxcaco, ILLINOIS: ._ _ .-0 .71 Iill immediately advise whether subject has -- '_~n obtained permission and notiiied U, S. Marshal of the above described travel, and ii so, itinerary. NEI YORK DIVISION: , i . .-: . ,4: AT NEW YORK CITY, RBI YORK: _pr Iill immediately advise whether subject is con- templating above described travel. - - KANSAS CITY DIVISION: _ .,_.,. ..,.'Iw___ - AT LAURENCE, xansas:' |- ____.. _' Iill follow this matter, and it subject arrives ._,->" s '.: _.'- a_---a- .7 .<~'V for speech, will handle, '-r...- _° _ . it ~--. __ . -, ..-.11 - aw sanxna, Kansas: ,2 -* " '- r. K: J-1. - 4 .7 7 ~.. ,92-| Iill follow this matter and handle appropdately. I- a s 2 ' E I ___.. V-4 .. --- - . S. " I I r /u 4/-1/10 l J . -- - .-:' I.'f <;- : -~ is I J, ' 5;-3; --vr [ _. '15 '* --= . I - e~ 5.4 TELETYPE N :.'r':~-.- 1--.. ... uncsm L E -: T-1 Hfzgi 51:??? 555 6' To: SAC KANSPS DATE 0%? . '_" Y7: B" ;_ "*"' /.$?é£5_IJ§§ 5 rcocm aunmubP1nM£1cA1-UAF , ,;;_,./-4! H CU:-munncaruons §5q[;,Qg/ :'", -. FROM: nmncmn, FBI ' 'ze-a4!-- ||| AF5;'zr1970 ABBOTT nowmn aorrum, AKA, ARL. TELEIYPE KANSAS CITY AIRTEL TO DIRECTOR APRIL TWO LAST 3" _'5.*4- CAPTIONED "ABBOTT HOWARD HOFFMAN, AKA, SM - ANA KEY W ACTIVIST!; ARL PRINCIPALSUBJECT!", COPIES TO CHICAGO. _ 1- IF HOFFMAN S SPEECHES SCHEDULED FOR APRIL EIGHT. u. AT UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS AND APRIL NINE NEXT AT A ' L WESLEYAII UNIVERSITY ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AGENT COVERAGE snouw 13% bnovmzn IF POSSIBLE, uwmzmc concsapsnhncoansns "'-<- IF FULL SECURITY CAN BE ASSURED, IN ACCORDANCE WITH INSTRUCTIONS IN BUAIRTEL DATED MARCH FIVE LAST TO ALL CONTINENTAIJ OFFICES - Q. -. -. SAN CAPTIONED "DAVID TYRE DELLINGER, AKA, ET AL, - ARL CONSPIRACY TRAVELOF DEFENDANTS!." - susmrr RESULTS omnm ARL CAPTION IN Acconmmc ° °" TRUCTIONS IN CHICAGO LETTER TO DIRECTOR MARCH THIRTYONE ___ _E eL.oach . F - ulcerl_.____._._... -. 1 ;, oh: _,__.__ F1. we .14.-1, CQNTIJENTAL ermcss AND am JUA NDEB an g. 1'.| - x U l TELETYPE TO $5.6, KRREESC i i !' ' '.:"'.T'..'RE: ABBOTT HOWARD HOFFMAN ABOVE DELLINGER CAPTION. - - AIRMAIL COPY BEING SENTTO CHICAGO. 92'II 92l"I'92 l'¢92- . ' ' L 92! L Z4; ~ -' 1 We are covering public statements of Chicago ARL defendants ~|.,'..»,.. V -1- _»a and two defense attorneys in accordance with speci c request of USA and Department. Captioned subjectis includedamong Chicagodefendants ' 1- Kansas City advised Hoffman is scheduledto speak on above .3 ~-.-- '! dates atindicated colleges; incomingstates thatBureau personnel will not be presentat speech scheduled forKansas University in view of the fact that speech is to be made oncampus; nomention madeof plans for 3*? coverageof speech at Kansas Wesleyan. Requestedcoverage isto be -- -.-qp _. _e- --mi--L afforded topublic statements eventhough such statements maybe made on campus. _ _ _ _ _ _~_.___.._., 1'1-7____. Ljl"._ -. O7.-7 1. . - 1: "£45,. ' > {.2-':3 l rs;sq. " ~: ~ . 1 . ' J . X! 50 $7-T9! l» , xxxxxx iorxxxx ioooorx i,_-ii FEDEIML lllllilll IF IIVESTIGITIOI FDIPI DELETED PIGE IIIFOIIIIATIOII SHEET E1 Pagetsl withheldentirely atthis locationin the le. Oneor moreof thefollowing statements,where indicated. explain this deletion. El Deleted underexemptiontsl ;______e _ _ _ :1 _ __ _ with no segregable U material available for release to you. E3 Information pertainedonly toa third party withno referenceto youor thesubject ofyour request. infonnaiion pe ainedonly to a third party. Yourname islisted is the title only. Documentlsl originatingwith the following governmentagencytiesl _e_ e _ _:_ _ e 1 _ _ _ _ i _o Z ______e______, _ _ , was/wereforwm ed tothem fordirect responseto you. H1 Pagelsl referredfor consultationto thefollowing governmentagencytiesl; 7 7 ______on as the informationoriginated withthem. Youwill be aclvisedof availability"upon retomof the material to the FBI. Pagelsl withheldfor the following reasoms!:This document, which is a carbon Copy» has not been processed in this file. The ORIGINAL of this _d_o_cument iii? bee?"aegis" P °F = i¬ _ iE inetilielzta l_ 11»?l§lO_~;lE5ls~_e__e e n . _ :_r___t:__., roryour mionnuuun. ,e_,______, , ,, _ __?______;______V __ _ The foll wiiig niiinwr is to & .. XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXX '92 .:r_ 0-19 Rev.n-a-691 - ¢ Tolson __.__-- - DeL.oc|ch ._.__- - -_.92.4 i _. Walters _._-- - < 92. . Mohr ___.---- 92 I I Bishop ___--- I. 92 Cusper ___..--- =<~= "W "3 _ _,.._._..., f I'Y_ -3-» ~ ... x__ A .,--. _ *?"° *'*'l* _:;- :_: . Cuilc:h UFl Phil! 1500 MARCH WITH 58:11;-Denied _ an maiched permission towith some speak at1500 thru Houston : thecity F" -' Rice University, Abbie __g_i_im ... D toHerman Park, wE?Fe he gave his Yieeech, raising a closed fist saluteThe Washington Post -r left! ior ~ ace. Times Herald __.__-- - ~ %w 92 The Washington Daiis New -*5-.- The Evening Sta: Washington!- The Sunday Star Washington!..__- 1 Daily News NewYork? __- .. .-92.-1-1-*: r92.1?92i1'DSunday News NewYork ! .V1_',;92;.uL- New York Post ______-- - . --- '. . ..-~92=".92f !, :- The New York Times ____.--- The Sun Baltimore!___- - - The Daily Worid_____-- -" The New Leader _____- -' The Wall Sreet Journal ._.- => i :21. The National Obnerver _..._- - ~*: Peopie'a World ____- -'-'- Examiner Washington! I I- [7/~ ~J M /! t-:i= OT as:'coRl5E'n"" I5. __, . __ .' '1 -.¢ ° APR 221970 oeu=__ i J§lZ-L_____. , s F IlI-_- / I . ; N 5_/V -'. o-19 um. 11-3-es» I P ' e -1- ~ - it 92 e . i Uj.'""'ce¢iiQlson l Walters Mohr , I. ~ s 5 t Coll CosoE_un_____ Conrad ._.____.___._ I"_la c f ll _ I 1! . T f ._.. .. -J Gale _n__.__|1 7 ,.4'__ ' - .1?-.. * - '._ T ¢' Sullivan Rosen- / Clash A_t Rice; Tuvel Soyars ___..__. Follows Talk 1; Tele. Floorn .._..._ J rd Holmes Bv Hoffman Goody _._.._,___.__.____ f A - l __ ,_,.. Y Qnogon. April 12 mag! -ii ' H . '- H - ,--- -'92- ""H _"H','f!-.|.292'- After ening to a ape-ec If r Abbiea oflman at a night-92 c persons went ~-': ;..=;=! to'Rice University late tonigbt where a group of students ATE -,»"$ll-5!-5 was occupying a building in , ¢ protest over a ban on Hofi- man's appearance on campus. /*"" Fist fights broke out at the, campus, and Houston police were reported en route there. Some of the nightclub, crowd forced theqiseives into the building as some of the protesting students decided to leave. Witnesses said the} 12;.- occupying force numberedn about 50. - . t 1 The nightclub crowd bsd= been listening to a speech by. The Times Wn hirtgton HeroldPost Hoffman, a Cbioago '2 o'efend-i 3, _e ant, when it was reported atj The . .':e'.:ini -.o:'- Dally New: .____ , _ c the club that the students The Evening Star Washington! __ 1 would be moved £rom_ the} The Sunday Star Washington! _____ building. ' '- . . A Dell! News New York} ______"!'. :' Let's go help them!" some-1 body yelled. ' , Stndny News New York! ______i_ Hoifman smiled from the New York Post stage, looked over his audi-* The New York Times ______ence and said, Do it! 92 Students occupied the build-r The &u1 Baltimore! ______ing Saturday shortly before The Mir wo»1a______. Hoffman arrived in Houston. The New Le-icier ___ e ii The students said they would r, --1 The Wall Street Journal _,___._____ g stay until the college admin-} istration '¢ra.nted them the] The National Observer __ _ _ rig h t to invite epea k ers , the y People's World ....__.__.,_._.._..___. chose to the campus. 1 nminer Washington! ______I Earlier, at a rally in Her» Irnann Park, Hoffman ehargedll * * * < c 7 _ _- D... APR131<.92 ls turning to fascism at home." ._, --. .lI-- - . e all _ 1 ' ', /9'2" /J '/- ~10 ¢ --<_ a aJ./ N OT -- RECO ~--" RD-5" ego! , 6UAPli 221970 *6 ~'R =2 *9?" 1 .! ! ...... -. -er.-1!! 1 1'35" T§."92° I 2'. -* - I Ed Q 1* $1 ram" r =.£;.'.:0.=;:-;:z.= * = -nox A 3-.3 '.,.. - | '_vV*1m ....'.'§92-»."92 --Q |92 <-rwnw - - -1- '1I_r'_92'_._J $11 92 .,-! ..5'5_".r.-.,_.,_ . .- :-;__-'_'._ :;;q NRQBI nu PLAIN " Till... ' .II '-'33,-:¬'.. '.. ' J! F 342 AM Nljé. A-8-76 SPU E»F.L¢. I75 if to n{§p¬;oa nun CHICAGO til P -._ - FROM nsuvzn cave-52> IP ?§]f A _ O O - 3,~'.:¢/ ABBOT H. Q FFMAN, AKA. ARL- 00 CGDME "& *~ *'1um/u_ *'O§ RE ON AIRTEL APRIL FOUR, SEVENHH .- SUEJECT GAVE SPEECH AT COLORADO STATE UN1VE R§iTY CSU5, FORT COLLINS, COLORADO, EIGHT P .91., APRIL SEVEN LAST BEFORE ESTIMATED CROWD OF FIFTEEN HUNOREO, 1?? W111" EXT§§§§LY osscsus AND PROVOCA{§VE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING §PEE A F u -"£992/ 1 Hr. T0199"-'-"' r. DeLvl¢h- -'- Mn ":9292t¬?l.---- Mfr h!'°hr""- Q-._. Mr. B55110?---"" Mr. C15?" 92 Li;-_' Cailaha 1 E-1!. Q :-.1". . $.l_. ;'. .: . I92. 3'0, i IJ 4/ B/10 . 3;- Airtei i~ -l _6l' [I --f-y.r:_0_92~q-* "--'< _., ' 92'92- nl92 ; J KT;T "Hi '1 I» 1'1 * -"92"rr'n T01 SAC, DQUVGI v B93 5 I, J From: Director,FBI /7Q;"3 /"" - fl meorr n. norrmm, mu. Y . ARI... co; cmcaco r Re DenverteletvpeDirector Chicagoto and4/8// I0. dated Your communicationsetting outthe transcriptionof the recordingoi Hoffman's speech otherand necessaryiniormation should include availablelacts regardingthe lirewhich followedthe speech, as well as informationregarding anyother violence which may have occurred which would appear to berelated to the speech. Available ,7-."""""-""'lII information concerningthe original oi the tire shouldhe included. , . E - >' I - SAC, Chicago niormation! 92. 11-' _ G w-*.'.- '. -a_. 2 . 4 NOTE: 4 1* "" "__' It-~-. Retel advisedthat subject, one ofthe Chicagoantlriot laws defendants whosepublic statementswe arecovering, gavea provocative .-:-,,.|_:_ Pr -._'- -'| _92- --N speechColorado at UniversitvzoxntheState oi 4/7/'70eveningalter which a tire occurredat anadjacent Universitybuilding. Toleon .._--..-.-- DeLo¢oh ...... _.-.- Iolteu ,_...__.-_- mason llohr _,____...... -.._- Bilhob ...... -.--.--- APR 81$- uj/;,q V Coapel ...... _-- CnlldhtmConmd _..-.-.-.-.-- ______COMM-FBI Fell ..._....-....-.-.-- Gale ' " :::'"i'APRSnlhvmn __...... --. 214970. Tewl ...... -._---- Smears .__.._...... _"" ' Tole.Holmli Home ___...... -- - . Goody ______....- ' um. noou TELETYPEum1 E.:]i_. i92 J -., .~ -'- - _~...... _ - ---- ' ---~--4--- _-.92.,,_.______,_-v._.-...,- _ "Ir on con. an. -:0. u . _92 . , J UNITED STATE§ - L ¢ERNNlENT i Memoraitdum _ eh' =Ait ss;e s ant At 0rney_Genera1 DATE= . 6/18/71. U _ _ I mrseuA1.'sBcuRn'2 mtvxsios Attn: Mr. some am-mew 1 i PR0" = Director, FBI - i _ _ ' . . u ,1 . Q . I /. _,_ _ '-ll 8 -"""_"'ABBOTT mwaennormang - I _ . ' ' " I ARL " ; Lu ,- "T ,;5, :%.iEU-_;,_._._i.' - 1'' ' '.:rf;' t T313 _. '- - '_ '-_ aw;-i" g-= .1L-'!_-;',. !.'!.-ii- ='. ' Reference is made to W, memorandum dated 5525/_-L1 your file !. " ' 1' » t ; = There is enclosed one copy of the report of Special Agent _ _;i[_- :_:5- _Z_4 on dated iii. _;1 W ;:;fi* at ' If? - ' d " ~ 1 Q" an. a92.a92.--1-eggs !. .-; A. i iThis uuvcra the preliminary investigation end no further action concerning a full investigation will be taken -4 1- .-I-1! by this Bureau unless the Department so directs. e ? v- -? --7 I -' B. [:3 The investigation is continuing and you will I be furnished copies of reports as they are received. n . - C. [' §Theinvestigation requested by you has now p i been completed, [nless advised to the contrary no further in- - --no-Q'-1 . quiries will be made by this Bureau. ' _ ' M ."'.:. . 4 . D. [II] Pursuant to instructions issued by the Depart- ment, no investigation will be conducted in this matter unless specifically directed by the Department.- //6;--- _, .,."- ___/ -c . E. [::]P1ease advise whether you desire any further in- ,92 vesti ation.. g - - ___. i net nscoeeiiv-we? > F.s [::]This is submitted for your infer io u . _ _ . 192 -..~- will beadvised furtherof de ments. mi; J N%2? M? ~4- "' T "E ~ G."it T111931 e for yours information ----- and no further investigation wil e conducted unless specifically re- quested by the Department. . . ' H. F'" Tnis covers the receipt of e eompleint and no further actionE§i 1be takenby this Bureau unless theDepartment. so directs. Note: The television station referred to in the memoran Enc-e 12%/xnnnorandum dated 5/12/71should at ¢hicago!_enc1osedhe HLS IV-rather than with referenced WBBMTV 54£t11sn I _', Q -' - _ 1 . - ' " FILE CO1