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Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru Cofnod y Trafodion The National Assembly for Wales The Record of Proceedings Dydd Mercher, 24 Ionawr 2007 Wednesday, 24 January 2007 24/01/2007 Cynnwys Contents 3 Cwestiynau am Lywodraeth Leol i’r Gweinidog Cyllid Questions on Local Government to the Finance Minister 23 Cwestiynau i’r Gweinidog dros Addysg, Dysgu Gydol Oes a Sgiliau Questions to the Minister for Education, Lifelong Learning and Skills 41 Pwynt o Drefn Point of Order 42 Y Gwasanaethau Ambiwlans Ambulance Services 81 Dadl Fer: Teimlo’n Ddiogel Short Debate: Feeling Safe 90 Dadl Fer: De Caerdydd a Phenarth—o Gamlas Sir Forgannwg i Fae Caerdydd—yn Dal i Ehangu Cyfleoedd Short Debate: Cardiff South and Penarth—from Glamorganshire Canal to Cardiff Bay—Still Extending Opportunities Yn y golofn chwith, cofnodwyd y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y Siambr. Yn y golofn dde, cynhwyswyd cyfieithiad o’r areithiau hynny. In the left-hand column, the proceedings are recorded in the language in which they were spoken in the Chamber. In the right-hand column, a translation of those speeches has been included. 2 24/01/2007 Cyfarfu’r Cynulliad am 2 p.m. gyda’r Llywydd yn y Gadair. The Assembly met at 2 p.m. with the Presiding Officer in the Chair. Cwestiynau am Lywodraeth Leol i’r Gweinidog Cyllid Questions on Local Government to the Finance Minister Y Dreth Gyngor Council Tax Q1 The Leader of the Opposition (Ieuan C1 Arweinydd yr Wrthblaid (Ieuan Wyn Wyn Jones): Will the Minister make a Jones): A wnaiff y Gweinidog ddatganiad statement on council tax increases since am godiadau yn y dreth gyngor er 1997? 1997? OAQ1059(LGP) OAQ1059(LGP) The Finance Minister (Sue Essex): The Y Gweinidog Cyllid (Sue Essex): Y average annual increase in band D council cynnydd blynyddol cyfartalog yn y dreth tax since 1997-98 is 7.6 per cent. The last gyngor ym mand D er 1997-98 yw 7.6 y cant. two financial years have seen the lowest Yn ystod y ddwy flynedd ariannol diwethaf council tax rises since council tax was cafwyd y cynnydd lleiaf yn y dreth gyngor introduced in Wales. ers ei chyflwyno yng Nghymru. Ieuan Wyn Jones: I know that the Minister Ieuan Wyn Jones: Gwn fod y Gweinidog yn is aware of the deep sense of unease felt in ymwybodol o’r anfodlonrwydd mawr a Anglesey at its extremely low local deimlir yn Ynys Môn a’i setliad llywodraeth government settlement, which is the lowest in leol isel iawn, sef yr isaf yng Nghymru. Bydd Wales. She will have met the leader of the wedi cyfarfod ag arweinydd y cyngor a council and council officials, and they will swyddogion y cyngor, a byddant wedi have explained to her the difficulties that that esbonio’r anawsterau a ddaw iddi yn sgîl will impose. As an avid reader of the Daily hynny. Fel un o ddarllenwyr brwd y Daily Post, she will have seen, on page two of Post, bydd wedi gweld rhagfynegiad ar today’s paper, a prediction that Anglesey dudalen dau yn y papur heddiw fod Ynys faces a 5 per cent council tax rise. That is Môn yn wynebu cynnydd o 5 y cant yn y substantially higher than the average dreth gyngor. Mae hynny’n sylweddol uwch expected for Wales. Does the Minister accept na’r cynnydd cyfartalog a ddisgwylir i that the increased pressures that the council Gymru. A yw’r Gweinidog yn derbyn bod y faces, as a result of issues such as the pwysau cynyddol sy’n wynebu’r cyngor, o Penhesgyn tip, of which I know she is aware, ganlyniad i faterion fel tomen Penhesgyn, y mean that the council is in an extremely gwn ei bod yn ymwybodol ohoni, yn golygu invidious position? Anglesey has the lowest bod y cyngor mewn sefyllfa annymunol settlement, and yet it is being forced, if it is iawn? Ynys Môn sy’n cael y setliad isaf, ond to maintain services, to increase council tax eto i gyd mae’n cael ei gorfodi i gynyddu’r at a rate way above the average. Will she dreth gyngor ar gyfradd lawer uwch na’r reconsider the settlement for Anglesey? cyfartaledd os yw i gadw gwasanaethau. A wnaiff ailystyried y setliad ar gyfer Ynys Môn? Sue Essex: I cannot reconsider the Sue Essex: Ni allaf ailystyried y setliad gan settlement, as it was voted on by the fod y Cynulliad bleidleisio drosto, ac ni allaf Assembly, and there is no way that I can newid penderfyniad a wnaed gan y overturn an Assembly decision. As you Cynulliad. Fel y gwyddoch, treuliais amser know, I have spent some time with Anglesey gyda chynrychiolwyr Ynys Môn a deallaf y representatives and I understand the pressures pwysau sy’n wynebu’r cyngor. Ni wyddom that the council faces. We do not know what beth fydd y dreth gyngor gyfartalog yng 3 24/01/2007 the average council tax will be in Wales, but Nghymru, ond gwn ei bod yn flwyddyn I do know that it is a difficult year for anodd i Ynys Môn, felly, yr wyf wedi Anglesey, so I have looked at why that ystyried y rhesymau dros hynny. Gwnaethom should be. We all agreed the formula and its i gyd gytuno ar y fformiwla a’r dull o’i distribution, and we know that there will be dosbarthu, a gwyddom y bydd manteision ac swings and roundabouts every year when you anfanteision bob blwyddyn pan newidiwch y put changes into the formula. However, one fformiwla. Fodd bynnag, un o’r ffactorau of the formula’s key drivers, as I said before, allweddol sy’n symbylu’r fformiwla, fel y is population figures. Anglesey’s real dywedais eisoes, yw ffigurau’r boblogaeth. problem is that it had—if you will excuse the Problem wirioneddol Ynys Môn—os tautology—a higher than average decrease in maddeuwch yr ailadrodd—yw iddi weld the number of primary and secondary school lleihad uwch na’r cyfartaledd yn nifer y pupils, and in primary school pupils entitled disgyblion mewn ysgolion cynradd ac to free school meals. It also had a lower than ysgolion uwchradd, ac yn nifer y disgyblion average increase in its elderly population. ysgol gynradd sydd â hawl i gael cinio ysgol These things really matter, as they are some am ddim. Cafodd gynnydd is na’r cyfartaledd of the key drivers of change within the yn nifer y bobl oedrannus hefyd. Mae’r formula. ffigurau hyn yn bwysig, oherwydd dyma rai o’r ffactorau allweddol sy’n symbylu newid yn y fformiwla. I have done some research on Anglesey’s Gwneuthum rywfaint o ymchwil i sefyllfa situation and, in terms of the period since Ynys Môn, ac yn y cyfnod er 1999 mae Ynys 1999, as a whole, Anglesey has had above- Môn wedi cael setliadau uwch na’r average settlements. I know that it is difficult cyfartaledd ar y cyfan. Gwn ei bod yn anodd for the council this year, but you will see that i’r cyngor eleni, ond fe welwch fod this is a situation of swings and roundabouts. manteision ac anfanteision. Yn ystod y Across the whole period, Anglesey has had cyfnod cyfan, mae Ynys Môn wedi cael mwy more than the average—53.5 per cent as na’r cyfartaledd—53.5 y cant o’i gymharu â compared with 51.9 per cent. Most treasurers 51.9 y cant. Mae’r rhan fwyaf o drysoryddion understand the dips and swells of the way in yn deall bod y ffordd y mae’r fformiwla’n which the formula operates. However, as I gweithredu yn gyfnewidiol. Fodd bynnag, fel say, I have had discussions and have shared y dywedais, cefais drafodaethau ac yr wyf information with Anglesey council. It is also wedi rhannu gwybodaeth gyda chyngor Ynys important that we look forward, as we are Môn. Mae hefyd yn bwysig inni edrych talking about a three-year settlement. The ymlaen, gan ein bod yn sôn am setliad tair issue of where the council can achieve blynedd. Bydd y mater ble y gall y cyngor savings, in terms of efficiencies, over the wneud arbedion, mewn effeithlonrwydd, yn next few years will come into play, but we ystod yr ychydig flynyddoedd nesaf yn dod would all agree that economic development i’r amlwg, ond byddem i gyd yn cytuno mai in Anglesey, to boost population levels and datblygu economaidd yn Ynys Môn fyddai’r incomes, would be the best thing that could peth gorau a allai ddigwydd, er mwyn rhoi happen. hwb i lefelau’r boblogaeth ac incwm. David Melding: Do you accept that, over a David Melding: A dderbyniwch fod 10-year period, average annual council tax cynnydd blynyddol cyfartalog o 8 y cant yn y increases of 8 per cent have led to dreth gyngor, dros gyfnod o 10 mlynedd, dramatically higher bills, undermining public wedi arwain at filiau sy’n sylweddol uwch, confidence in the tax? It is a property tax and, gan danseilio ffydd y cyhoedd yn y dreth? therefore, in taxation terms, is fairly Treth eiddo ydyw, ac felly, fel treth mae’n regressive, as it is not closely related to eithaf atchweliadol gan nad yw’n gysylltiedig income. iawn ag incwm. Sue Essex: That is why I have been so Sue Essex: Dyna pam yr ydym wedi bod mor concerned, as you know, to keep council tax awyddus, fel y gwyddoch, i sicrhau bod y 4 24/01/2007 increases low, and is why I took the step, a cynnydd yn y dreth gyngor yn isel, a dyna few years ago, of consulting on the pam yr ymgynghorais ar yr egwyddorion rai principles.