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This is the first vo1ume of the Debates for the Eighth Lot Sdbha. Upto the end of the Seventh Lok Sabha, two versions of Lok Sabha Debates were brought out, viz., (i) Original VersIon containing the procee- dings of the House in the languages in which they took place except that in the case of speeches made in regional languages, their English! Hindi translation was included and the Urdu Speecbe:; were put in Devnagri script and their Persian script was also given within brackets, and (ii) Hindi Version containing the Hindi proceedings, Urdu proceedings in Devnagri script and Hindi translation of English proceedings and also of Speeches made in regional langu~:ges.

2. \Vith effect fr Jrn the First Session of Eighth Lol Sabha, in pursu- ance of a decision of the General Purpo~es Committee of Lok Sabha: two versions of Lok Sabha Debates are being brought out, viz., (i) English Version containing Lok Sabha proceedings in English and English translation of the proceedings which take place in Hindi or any regional language. aDd (ii) Hindi Version in its present form except that Urdu speeches ale hein, put in Devnagri script and their Persi'-ln Script is also being given within br"h: kets.

3. In addit;on. Original Version of the Lok Sabha proceedings is "'" being prepared nnd kept in Parliament Library suitably bound for purposes of record and reference only. '

4. In both the English and the Hindi Versions, an appropriate indi .. c:ltion is being given to:specify where a particular part of the proceedings is original in English Hindi or a translation.

5. It is hoped the two independent Hindi and English verSlons will be found useful by Members and other interested.

NEV. DELHI; SUBH:\SH C. KASHYAP, January, 1985 Secrel ary .. GentTai. CONTENTS Eighth Series, Vol. I-First Session, J985/1906 (Saki) No.6, 1uesday, January 22, J985/Magha 2, 1906 (Saka)

COLUMNS Member Sworn ... I Oral Answers to Questions ... 1 ·Starred Questions Nos. 37 to 4], 43 and 44 ... 1-37 Written Answers to Questions: 37

Starred Questions Nos. 42, 45 to 56 37-58

Unstarred Questions Nos. 101 to 164 and 164-A ... 58-147 Papers laid on the Table ••. 151-169 Committee on Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes Fifty-ninth and Sixteenth Action Taken Reports ••• 169-171

Election of Deputy-Speaker ••. 171-172

Felicitations to Deputy-Speaker ... 172·179

Shri Rajiv Gandhi 172·73

Shri Abd ul Rashid Kabuli 173-75

Sh r i Ebrahim Sulaiman 8ait ... 175

Shri George Joseph Mundackal ••• 175

Shri N· B. Bhandari 176 Shri Owaise ... 176 Shri Frank Anthony ... 176

Mr. Speaker •.. 177.7.

Shri M· Thambi Durai 178 ~~~------~------....• lbe Sign+marked above the name bra Member illdlcatea that the qua- tioD was actually asked aD tbe floor of the House b)' that Member. ( ii ) COLUMNS ),fatters under rule 377 ••. 1SO-185

(i) Need to convert the Rupsa-Bangiriposi Narrow Gaule railway line into broad gauge

Shri Chintamani Jena ... 180· 81

(ii) Funds for modernisation of Orissa Cotton Mill

Shrimati Jayanti Patnaik ••• 181-82

(iii) Need to check the illegal mining' of coal in Shahdol (Madhya Pradesh)

Shri Dalbir Singh ... 182-83

(iv) Need to clear the irrigation part of the Kuriar- kutty-Karappara Project in Kerala

Shri V. S. Vijayaraghavan ... 183-84

(v) Delay in issuing visas by Pakistan Embassy

Prof. Saifuddin Soz

(vi) Steps to save Yamuna \vater in Delhi from being polluted by industrial 'wastes and sewage

Shri Jai Parkash Agrawal ... 184·85

.otion of thanks on the Presidenfs Address

Shri Owaisi ... 186-196

Shri Azeez Sait ... 190-192

Sbri P. R. Kumaramangalam ... 193-197

Sbri Narayan Choubey ... 197-205

Shri Shripati Mishra ••. 205-208

Shri A. C. Shanmugam ... 208 ... 213

Shri K. S. Rao ... 213-217

Shri Pratap Bhanu Sharma ••. 217-220 ( Hi )

Prof. P. J. Kurien ... 223-226

Shri Girdhari Lal Vyas ... 226-229

Shri Piyus Tiraky ... 229-231

Shri Tarun Kanti Ghosh ... 231 .. 236

Prof. K. K. Tewary ... 237-241

Sbri C. Janga Reddy ... 241-247

Shri Ananda Gajpati Raju Poosapati ... 247-249

Shri Mool Chand Daga ... 249-251

Dr. Datta Samant ... 251-256

Shrimati Krishna Sahi ... 256-259

Shri Devineni Narayanaswamy ... 259-261

Shri R. Prabhu ... 279-284

Dr. A. Kalanidhi ••. 284-290

Shri Atish Chandra Sinha •.. 290-295

Shrimati Jayanti Patnaik ... 295-297

Shri S. M. Bhattam ... 297-301

Shri D. B. Patil ... 301-304

Prof. Nirmala Kumari Shaktawat ... 304-306

Shri Amar Roypradhan ... 306-307

Shri Ajay Mushran ••. 307.. 310

Shri Rajiv Gandhi ••• 310-320 t tv )

100lling attention to Matter of urgent Public Importance Reported fresh violence in Sri Lanka causing loss of 'life and property of Tamilians and trespass of a Sri Lanka Patrol craft into Indian waters attacking Indian Fisherman.

Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munshi ... 262-269

Shri Khursheed Alam Khan ... 269-270 274-276 Shri Brajamohan Mohanty ... 271-274

Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee ... 276-278 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA the 6th Five Year Plan up to 15.11.1984 are 9,301 and 155 respecti. Tu~sdQy January 22, 1985/ vely. M agha 2, 1906 (Saka) [ ''-ranJiatlon]

SHR.I AMARSINH RATHAWA: The Lok Sabha met OJ Mr. Speaker, Sir, the requisite infor- Eleven of the Clock. mation has Dot been given. Sir, throup you. I want to know from the hOD. [Mil· SPEAKEIl in tile Chair) Minister ful) details of the scheme formulated to provide telephone faci- lities in backward areas of the country MEMBER SWORN in general and a Jarae Adivasi area in Gujarat in particular as also tho SHRI ANANDA GOPAL MUK- steps beina taken to provide luth HOPADHYAY (Asansol). facilities in those backward Adivaai villages in the State whose population ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS is one thousand each.

(Eng!i,,,] SHRI RAM NIWAS MlllDHA: TelecolllmaDicatioD F rcilities in Gujarat Sir, it is correct that the telephone facilities provided in Adivasi and *37. SHRI AMARSINH backward areas are not adequate. RATHA WA: Will the Minister of Keeping this in view, our Ministry COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to had constituted a Task Force in state: 1979 to find ou t as to how teJe .. phone facilities in rural areas can (a) the telecommunication facili· be augmented. They have made several ties made available in backward. recommendations. One of the major tribal and hill areas of the country, recommendations js that teJephone particulary in Gujarat ; and faci lities should necessarily be provided at least within a radius of five Kilo. (b) the number of public telephones metres. This recommendation of the installed in the country and in Committee has been accepted. But Gujarat under the scheme up till how far we sha II be able to imple- now? ment it, will depend on the aHoca. tion of funds made to our Ministry for this purpose during the Seventh THE MINISTER OF STATE OF FJ\'e Year Plan. In Gujarat'll as I THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNI. have already stated, the facilities CATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS which have been made available in MIRDHA): (a) Telecommunication 155 backward hilly and Adivasi areas. facilities made available are primariJy are not sufficient to meet the require- Lonl Distance Public Telephones and ment. We shall try to improve the Combined Offices. POSition considerably durin. the ~ Seventh Plan period. (b) The number of Lona Di~tance Public Telephones installed in the SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: country and in Gujarat in rural. back- Sir, this is the third time that I have ward, trib"l .n

Cbhota Udaipur Constituency, but telephone lines of our area would im- there has been no improvement in prove and the fault of the talk on one the telephone facilities there since number bejng overheard on the other then. If you want the planned de .. wou ld' be removed ? velopment of Adivasi areas, it is absolutely necessary to provide tele- phone facilities to them. The direct MR. SPEAKER: Why don't you line between Chhota Udaipur and askas to how the telephone linei re· Baroda always remains disrupted. main in order for five day? Tbese two areas, even otherwise re_ Quire doubJe line. I want to know when this area is going to have an SHRI RAM NISWAS MIRDHA: effective direct and double line ? Sir. it is true that Adivasi and hiJly areas have typical problems. Di reet SHRI RAM NIWAS MJRDHA telephone Jines instaHed in hiJJy Sir, the han. Member wants to know areas are sometime disrupted. It is. therefore, proposed to i nc;tal radio- as to how the direct Hne be tween Chbota Udaipur and Baroda can be telephone in hiHy areas during the coverted into doubJe line. At present, next plan period in order to avoid this information is not available with wire installation. I think we will be me, but we wi II certainly consider able to remove the deficiencies the suggestion which the hon. Mem- pointed out by the hone Member. \er has made here.

SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAHI : SHRI JAI PARKASH AGARWAL: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to know the Mr. Speaker, Sir, may I know the share of Bihar in the scheme formula- schemes being chalked out for exten- ted for the development of tribal and sion and improvement of telephone hi Ily areas, because the fad Ii ties service in Delhi? what time the By available at present in hilly areas are present waiting list will be covered and quite inadequate. wha t steps are being taken by the Government to reduce the waiting period? rEng Ii sn J

Mr. SPEAKER: You are asking SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: a bout the capital. Please give a se· This relates only to Gujarat. parate notice for this. The relevant information with regard to your rTro'H/at ion] question will not be available with the Minister now as the main ques- ~1R. SPEAKER: You \\i11 gd the tion does not rela te to Delhi. You reply jf you give a separate notice for ~hould give a scraratc notice for thaL th,s

I Ln F: I i.\" J SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMO~: Ivfr. Speaker~ Sir, in the tribal area \\- hich SHRI LALll ESHWAR SHAHI: T represent, in rural areas p.e.os The question of the country, is remain out of order for 360 days country as It whole, particularly during 365 days of a year. The entire Gujarat. Baroda-Ahmedabad line remains dead. Secondly, when a particular number is diaJJed, the taJk on that MR. SPEAKER: Nl!xt Question. number can be overheard on five Shri Mool Chand Daga. other telephone numbers. I want to know from the hon. Minister the SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA time by which the fUDctioning of the Question No. 38. ~ 6ral An5lVtrs Orai AnJWtfs 6

SHRI SAT~ENDRA NARAYAN THE MINISTER OF CHEMI· SINHA: Sir, Question No. 52 is identical CALS AND FERTILIZERS AND with Question No. 38. I would request INDUSTRY AND COMPANY that these two Questions be clubbed AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA together. PATIL) (a) to (d): A statement is Jaid on the TabJe of the Sabha. [ Translation] Statement J\.fR. SPEAKER: If all agree, these can be clulbed. Do all agree to it ? The Minister-io.Charge should also (a) Yes, Sir. agree to it. (b) Th~ State Government has reported tha tit took the foHowing [Ellg/ ish] action on the accidents whicb took PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: place in the Union Carbide factory Merger. at Bhopal on 24-12-1981 and 10-2- 1982 :- J\.fR. SPEAKER CompJete mergcr- (1) 24·12-1981 The accident occurred on account of inhaling of [ r,an'llationJ Phosgene vapour by one of the wor .. kers, after he removed the breathing -h.l~ Il(Jt been a~reed 10. masks, following spillage of Phosgene. The worker died. The Factory In- (English] spector visited the factory and carried out the inspections. Following In- Gas Leakage Tragedy in Bhopal structions were gi";?n to the manage- ment: *38. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA Will the l\linistec of (i) \Vhile opening the ftaDg.:~ CHE~1ICALS A~D FERTILIZERS of P1P~S, at the time of be pleas~d to st3te : maintenance. the workers shou)J be instructed first (.1) wheth.?r his atlend3tion has to rem-.'>vl! l h r bolts on the b..:r.:n Jr..iwn tLl (h~ n:.:ws-uem· captlo- side a way from him and n~J r~p..!at~d U.llon's warnings went only then the bolb on h.'i unhl!ed~d' appearc ,i 1 n "Th e Indian side, so that ther~ IS lh) JJ 'Jrker N~w D.:lh.·· dated 17 De- chance of any lef. O\.!f fluid c~mbcr, 1984 reJating to JeakJge of spilling on the work~rs. gas in tbe Union CJfoide factory in Bnopal (ii) The workers should be properly instructed in the (b) if so, Ih.: aClicn l~lk.:n by use of breathing ap- Gov..:t nme:lt ID 19tH \~ 11...: u lIquId paratus. pn0sg;:ul! a spilled anJ tn 1~~2 \\ n.:n mechanical pump W.1S damaged ~ An inquiry under Section 90 of (C) whether the staff union had Factories Act was ordered and the warned .... about the impendin& dangers Inquiry Report is under consideration through posters : and of the State Government. A criminal case was also reaistered against some officers of the company under Indian (d) whetber the other such manu .. Penal Code. The case is peDdina in facturing concerns in the country have tbe court of tbe Chief Judicial b:en check:ej for safety now; if, so d\!- Maaistrate, tails thereof? Bhopal. 'I (Jral AnJwtrs JANUAR.Y 22, t98~ Oral Aft.," 8

(2) 10-2-1982: Mechanical seal of a Committee to intel·alia a pump used for pumping Phosgene identify those industries was demaged resulting in: leaking of which are to be reco,Dised some Phosgene liquid which evapora. as hazardous industries ted immediately. The Factory Inspec- and to prepare an inventory tor and the Chief Inspector of Fac. Sta te-wise. tories inspected the factory. The following instructions were issued to the management: . It is reported that 4 States, includ. Ing .Madhya Pradesh, have already (i) that some engineer should apPointed such Committees/Task Forces supervise the fitting of the and inspection work is in progress. seal; and

(ii) the seal should be tested [Translation] by running the pump for some time and checked for SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Jeakages, if any. Mr. Speakr, Sir, it is very difficult to awaken a person who pretends to sJeep. A criminal case was registered The written statement is made only under the Indian Pena i Code against when there something ambiguous. The some officers of the C ... )mpany. The statement says- case is pending in the Court of the Chief Judicial Magistra .e, Bhopal. [Eng/ ish] (c) Pamph1ets were issued some "An inquiry under Section 90 of time in 1982 by Union Carbide Wor- Factories Act was ordered leers' Union warnin& aJout the toxic and the inquiry report is las and accidents in th-: factory. under consideration of the State Government." (d) For checking safety aspects in other such manufacturing concerns tbe following measures have been [Trans/at ion] taken :-

A worker had been a victim of an (i) 'Foe Ministry of Labour accident and a had died in 1981 in the have advised all state Ad- factory. I would like to know when ministration~ (a) to set up the inquiry was ordered and since a Committee or Task Force when the report is under considera- for undertaking a thorough tion of tbe Government. Despite the reView of the implementa- fact that this accident occurred in 1981 tion of safety provisions in and the workers launched an aaitation chemical and other indus- in this regard. the inquiry report is tries using hazardous still under consideration. It has also operations and processes, been stated in the sta tement tbat including hlghly tOXIC sub- one case was registered. I would like stances; and (b) to carry to know when that case was relis" out frequ.:nt inip.!ctions to tered and in which court it is pendina deal etfectivdy with vioiatjes and since when ? of the Factories Act or the previsions of the different rules and schedules for the SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Sir safety and health of the the reply to the first part of the workerS. question of the hone Member is that an inquiry was ordered by Madbya Pra- (ii) The Central Pollution Con- del OovernmcDt OD 10·2.1982. Ono troJ Board bas constituted or 9 Ora} Answer, MAGMA 2, t~ (SAKA) O'Qll4nlwer, i 0

the inquiry officer was Dr. S. Siddiqi, the inquiry report submitted to it Assistant Professor of Chemistry. in connection with the accident which MotiJal Vigyan Mdhavidyalaya. had occurred in the factory in Bhopal who submitted his inquiry 1981. on 5th March, 1984 and the same is under consideration of Madhya Pradesh Government and no final decision At the same time, I would )ike has yet been taken thereon. to make it clear to tbe hon Member that all the mattels relating to labour problems as well as their sa rety and So far as hone Member's question health fall within the jurisdiction of reaarding the date of filing the case the State Government and not the in the court of law is concerned, I Central Government. On behalf of have to submi t tha t under Section tbe Labour Ministry we have always 304 (a) of I.P.C. the case was filed been writing to State Governments in in the Court of Chief Judicial Magis- regard to such factories, their pro- trate, Bhopal in 1983. blems and the safety measures to be adopted by them and asking tbem to SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: utilise the services of our oflices for Mr. Speaker, Sir, are you statisfied inpection purposes. with this answer '/ The accident occurred in 1981 and inquiry is ~till pending. Investigations are sti 11 The hon. Member had also asked going on. The case was also registered when the Central Pollution Control after a long period of two years. Board had constituted a Committee- What is the use safety manuals, if they are no to be followed? Who is responsi- (Eng /ish] ble for it ? May I know what action Government. has taken against those - to identi fy the industries which are to be rescognised as hazardous found quilty uDder the Factories Act? industries-

In reply to another question you [Transl at ion1 have stated- In this connection I would like to [English] submit that after tbe big tragedy of Bhopal this Committee bas been con. "The Central Pollution Control stltuted during this montb. It is Board has constituted a Committee difficult for me to say when the Com- to. inler alta idenity these indus- mittee will submit its report. tries •••••• ".

May I know when the Central SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA : Is Pollution Control Board has consti luted the Government aware of a white a committee to identify the industries palace owned by tbe Bhopal unit of and the time by which the report of the Union Carbide factory wberc the Committee is likely to be presen- SCientlslS from different parts of rhe t"d? The matter has already been world includina Amerian scientists delayed much. May I know the time are comin& and dOID& research work? when the Committee actually started Is the Government aware of tbis fact or its work 1 not-l want to know.

SHR,t VEEllENDRA PATIL: Sir, SHRI VEERENDRA. PATIL : So I admit that Madhya Pradesh Govern- far as researcb and development acti. ment bls taken morc time to consider vities of tbis Undertakiol are coo· c\!rned, G\)vernm~ot is a W.lf~ tha t this was conducted in the factory afler Undertaking has got a research and those incidents took pJace there and developillent wing anJ in that in what nlanner the Factory Inspe\:£or RAD Wing they ar~ \';arrying on took action after the: said inspectIon tests on pests and insects under tro- as also tbe nature of action taken pical condi ti on. under the Insecticides Act and whether any action was taken under the Air SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: PolJution Act aiso. 1 would like A part from pollut ion, . it is prinlari Iy the Hon'bJe Minister to teJl the House a question of industrial safety in a the reasons, if no action chemic.l1 plant. P .. ut i cu Llrly this had been taken during these two question has bl!4!n gone into earl ier years ? by sev.:ral Study Group5 set up by the Govern01ent, but no steps w\!re SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL : Some taken.. \Vhar is nlore significant is accidents had taKen place earher that after this representation of the also but those were of minor nature. Union, the Madhya Pradesh l\1inister In fact, SIX accidents luYe ~o far for Industries and Labour sta ted in the occurred since 1978 and uut of these ~fadhya Pradesh State assembly that six accidents, th(.re is only one acci- there was nothing wrong with the PJant.. dent in whIch one worker was killed Is the tvfinisLer aware of the state- and the reason was 1ba t he liad not ment and what action did the used the breat hlng appartus. An take ? enquiry was conducted Into the JD- cid~nt and it was pOInted out In the SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: I Jo enquiry report that \\hcrcver the pipe not have that infornlatlon as to what was to be opened for deaning, the the Labour Minister of l\1ddnya breathing cap lllust be put on, but Pradesh said in the Assembly. Yester- a t that time Jl was not properly day I have said and also while rna k_ used. It has also bClfl pointed out ing the statement 1 have said that the in th~ report that a numbc-r of wor- aCCident which occurred In the factory kers empjoyed there w~rc not traIned was most tragic and j (never happened workers. The untrain-.:d WOI kt:rs ace not only in our country but in the not aware of the pn.:~autions to be entire world and it was most unex- laken, with the resu It that such an pected. Now it has opened the eyes of aCCident occurred there. \Vhcrt vcr everybody. such an aCCident occurreu, the State Government took action. Some cases [ Translario",) are pending in courts. I have their details wi th me 1 f read ou 1 the same, it will take long t!mc. If you SHRI PRATAP BHANU wish, I will furnish the details to SHARMA Mr. Spe~ker , Sir, there you. has been sufficient di )cus~ion on the BbopaJ gas trag~dy since yesterday. [Eng lislt] Hon. Minister has also informed that action has since been taken under Covering of Area Bordering Nepal by the factory Act and Insecticides Act. I would II ke to know from tbe Hon .. Television Minister whether in view of the fact that tbe Air Pollution Control Act 39. SHRI D.L. BAITHA: \Vill had come into force in 1983 and two the Minister of INFORMATION AND or three incidents had taken pJace BROADCASTING be pJeased to in tha t factory th'.!reafter. the S tat~ state : Pollution C:>nlroi Board or the Central Pollution Coolrol Board (a) the total area and population had liveD aD¥ instructions in this covered so far by Television and relard aad whether any inspection details of scheme for the area and 13 Oral Answer, MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) Oro/ Answer, 14

population still uncovered indicating the VII Plan are sti II under considera- the time by which they would be tion of Planning Commission. covered Parts of Gorakhpur, Basti, Beh- (b) whether t he area b':Jrde ring raich and Deoria districts of U.p. Nepal is not yet served by this service and Paschim Champaran in Bihar, and a commitment was mad~ by the neighbouring Nepal are getting cove- concerned Minister that the same rage from the High Power TV Trans- would be covered very soon by the mitter at Gorakhpur. Another Low powerful transmitting centre going to Power Transmitter is being set up in be constructed at Kurseong ; if so, the Pithoragarh District of. U.P. High progress made so far ~ Power TV Transmitter under installation at Kurseong will provide (c) whether Government propose further TV coverage jn areas neigh- to cover the area bordering Nepal bouring Nepal. Transmitter and other falling in Purnca District, Bihar, by necessary equipment for this centre erecting a relaying centre at Araria have been received and installation or Forbcsganj or strengthening the re- work is j n progress. Interim ser- laying centre at Purnea till alternative vice is expected to be commissioned arrangements arc made; and by the end of this nlonth, pending completion of 135 1\1 Tower.

(d) whether the ~1icrowave tele- phone tower can also serve the purpose A large part of Purnea district is jf some additional cquipments with expected to be covered by TV service sma II ex pe nJi 1urc arc (1(: ded to with the completion of the scheme in them? hand. Further coverage of this area is proposed to be taken up in the subsequent Plans of TV Expansion THE ~f1NTSTER OF STATE OF depending on J\'ailability of res- THI: I\.·tJNISTRY OF INFORr-.fATTON AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. au fees. GADGIL) : (a) to (d). A statement is laid on the table of the House. The saving of expenditure due to availability of towef for Low Power Statement TV Transmi:ter is only marginal.

With the completion of SJ)ecial TV _. Trans! at to 11 - Expansior. Pbn nearly 70o~ of the CCllln try ~s poru!J ~ on \\:! J be covered SHRI D L. BAITHA: 'Ir. Speaker, by TV signal. As some of the High Sir. it has been stated in repJy to Power Tra nsm i tters n re sti 11 not this questi0D-"with the completion operating at full ppwer owing to non- of Special T\" Expansion Plan nearly completion of to\\crs, and six High 7(t ~ of the country·s population will Po\\:cr Transmit ters are under insta t- be covered by TV servIce. As some lation or yet to he installed, the targ('t of the high power transmitters are of 70~~ is s ti 11 (0 be reached. still not op~rating at full capacity owing to non-completion of towers, and si:-< high power t ~Jnsnlistters arc Plan for the E\pan,ion of TV under installation or still to be instal- coverage of the North Eastern Region led. the target of "!'() per cent is yet to has been approved and is already be reached." under implementation. It will provide coverage to 80~;' of the Region's popu. lation along with facilities for local 1 had asked as to wha t percentage production of programmes at several of the population has so far been Stations. Proposals for further ex, covered by television service and the per- pansion of uncovered are-as under centage of the pC'pulation being bene- 15 Oral Jf"swer, JANUARY 22, 1985 Oral A"'W~'s 16 fited thereby. It has not. been transmitter of Gorakhpur is of 120 KW answered. range. Areas Ii ke Paschim Champaran in Bihar and Basli, Behraich and Further, I would like to know the Deoria disricts of U.P. are ,ettiDI r1aces where the proposed six high coverage from this transmi tte r. These power transmitters are bein g instal- transmitters will be compJeted by end Jed. Will the area of Puruli a district of April this year. bordering Nepal also be covered by them? Whether Purnea district wi)) . -Trans/alioh also get the benefit of the in terim service expected to be commissioned MR. SPEAKER Shri Balkavi by the end of this month, pending Bairagi. completion of 135 metre hiah Tower? SHRI D.L. BAITHA: Mr. Spea- _-Engllsh_ ker, Sir, the supplementary question asked by me just DOW is intended SHRI V.N. GADGIL: As on to seek clarification of my first Jan uary 17, 40 per cent of the popula- question. tion is covered. By tbe end of the Sixth Plan the centres woltJd be increa- My Second question is whether sed to 177. So far the expectation is Saharsa, Forbesganj and Araria that 70 per cent of the population in Purnea district will also be cove- will be covered subject to raising 0' red under the proposed interim towers in time- There is some diffi- culty in raising towers at some Service? places. I cannot say that exactly on a particular day it will be com- . English_' pleted.

._'TransIQtio" - SHRI V.N. GADGIL: As I said j t is a one KW Jow power transmitter and unless the tower is raised its SHRI D.L. BArTHA: Mr. Spea- power cannot be fuHy augmented. ker. Sir, information has not been The expectation is that during the furnished in regard to the places in course of this year it will be com- the State were these towers are pro- pleted. posed to be installed and whether Purnea district will also get the bene- , Tron.\ lalion - fit of the ~nterim Service thereunder. SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAVI: \-fr. -Eng/is"~- Speaker, Si r, I would like to know whether a ny such poJicy wi" be for- SHRI V.N. GADOIL : Trnsm;tters mula ted by 31 st March, 1985 under will be augumented to full power which cities having a population of subject to raising of towers. When 50 thousand wi II aJso be covered by this is done it wiJl ~ possible 10 ou- TV ? gument the power of the transmi tter.

As regards the pJaces 9 there is a whole Jist. If th.-! House wants, ( can read Engil:;h the whol~ list. SHRI Y.N. GADGIL: It il cove- red by 6th Plan. Certain projects are MR. SPE4KER: YO'J mlY place it on the table of the House. alreadv sanctioned. We can't go be- yond that. The present criteria i. SHRI V.N. GADGIL: As far as that population should be ont his area is concerned tbe high power lakh. MAGHA 2, IP.06 (SAKA) Orlll AnlWtrl 11

Statement-) MR. SPEAKER The criteria shou Jd not be such as may inspire Number of cases pending in Su. people to increase population. preme Court and various High Courts [Englj,h} Name of the Number of Court SHRI V.N. GADGIL : NOt that is cases pendibg (As on 31.12.1984) not the idea.

Supreme Court Regular In the Seventh Plan, I may state hearing mat- 46,868 that the present criterien is one lakh ters population. In the Seventh Plan, we Admission are also contemplating to cover border and Miscel- areas and strategic areas. We will laneous mat- give emphasis on tribal areas and also ters 1,02,023 cover the areas which are not covered --- not rar. Total: 1,48,891

Cases Pending iD Sapreme Coart and High Coutl Number of Higb Court. cases pendin. (As on 30.6.1984) *40. SHRI K.T. KOSALRAM Will the Minister of LAW AND 1 2 JUSTICE be pleased t C' state :

(a) the number of cases pending Allahabad 2,12,453 as on da te j n the Supreme Court and Andhra Pradesh &1,007 in different High Courts in the country; and Bombay 95,366

Delhi 64,293 (b) the steps being taken to en- sure that justice is not delayed? Gujarat 34,870

Himacha I Pradesh 9,321 THE MINISTER OF LA\V AND 24~S4S JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN) : Jammu and Kashmir Statement I containing information KeraJa 86,763 8S furnished by the Registries of tbe Supreme Court and the High Courts Madhya Pradesh 49,443 is placed on the Table of the Madras 1,25.991 House. Orissa 20,611

(b) Statement II indicating steps Pttnjb and Haryana 3S,OJ.4 taken to reduce pendency is plac~~ on S5 the T4bJ~ 0( tbe HOQse Sikkim Oral Answers 20 19 . 0'0/ A ,,_e, If JANUAIl Y 11. '985 (5) The Supreme Court rules 1 2 have been amended to vest more powers in the Registrars (As on 31.12.1983) and Judges in Chambers so, that the time of the court is Calcutta 1,18,997 not wasted in petty miscella- neous rna t ters. Karnataka 1,16,564 (6) The Supreme Court bas also ·Patna 54,582 taken the following mea- sures : Rajasthan 42.986

(As on 30.6.1983) (i) Priority IS given to certain matters Gaubati (ii) Miscellaneous matters are fixed daily ; .Main cases only.

(iii) Writ Petitions with identi· Statement·1l cal questions are grouped together and ba tches runn- a.fi;,~ps Token from Tim~ 10 Time 10 ing from 50 to 100 metters Reduce P~"d~"(,y. are listed (ogether for hea- ring; The following steps have been taken in recent years to reduce pen .. (iv) Other nlatters involving dency in Supreme Court and Hight identical questions are also Courts identified from time to time and put together and efforts (1) The Code of Civil Procedure are made to see that such was amended in 1976 to abo- groups are disposed of lish Letters Patent Appeals early. from Judgement of Single Judge of the High Court in tv) The Supreme Court Rules second appeal (vide Sec- were revised in 1966 provid- tion lOOA). ing for printing of records under its own supervision. (2) The Code of Criminal Proce- As that was also taking dure based on the recommen· quite some time the court dations of the Law Commis- of late has started wherever sion was cnacted in J 973. possible dispensing with the preparation of records and hearing the appeals on (3) The Judge strength of the ~pecial leave paper-book Supreme Court has been rai- i lself after the parties have sed from 13 to 17 excluding fi1ed their counter-affidavits the Chief Justice with effect and affidavits in reply. . from 31.12.17 by amending the Supreme Court (Number 0 f (7) Apart from the above certain Judges) Act, 1956. High Courts are taking the fo!lowing steps for ensuring (4) The sanctioned strength of better disposal of cases. Hjlb Court Judges has been increased from 3S1 in March, (a) Cases involving common 1977 to 424 on 1st JaDuary. questions are beina grouped 1985. by several Hi.h Courts. ~ 1 Oral Answer.f MAGMA 2, 1906 (j'AKA) Oral AIISlf'e', 22

(b) Matters fixed for hearing by without effecting the car- giving short returnable dinal principle that decisionS dates. should be just and fair;

(c) Dispensing with printinl of (ii) simplification of procedure records. to reduce and eliminate tachinicalities and devicea (d) Expendi ting and aivin& for delay so that it operates priori ty to matters under not as an end in ,itself wt certain Acts. as a means of ac:hieviDl justice; and (8) The Government have also addressed the Chief Ministers (iii) improvement of standard! of States and Chief Justices of all cODcerned with tbe of Hiah Courts in which there administration of jUlti~e. is a heavy pendency of civil cases over 5 years' oJd to (b) To revise the Central Acts consider appointment of re- of general importance so tired Judges under Article as to simplify them and to 224A of the Constitution. remove anomali~s, ambiaui· ties and inequities. (9) The recommendations contai- ned in the 79ht report of the Law Commission have been (c) To recommend to the examined. As action on ma- Government measures for jority of the recommendations bringing the statute book up- is to be taken by the State to-date by repealing obso- Governments and High Courts, lete laws and enactment, these have been sent to them or parts thereof which along with the views of the Un- have outlived their utility. ion Government and they ha ve been requested to take neces- (11) The Government have COD- sary action. stituted an infonna. Committee of 3 Chief Justices to examille (10) The Government bave also the problem of arrears in High appointed Law Commission Courts and suae~ t remedial (lOth L3 \'l Commission) to measures. keep unut'r .review the system of judicial administration in the country. AmOD& the terms SURI K.T. KOSALRA'f: Mr. of reference of tbe Law Com- Speaker, Sir, the answer given by the mission are: hone Minister does Dot seem to be correct. I hope the hone Minister and the Members of this House would (a) To keep under rtview the agree with me that justice is beiDa system of judicial admini- delayed in thousands of cases th:a t stra tion to ensure that j t are pending with the courts. Whatever is responsive to the reaso- may be his reply, the hone Minister nable demands of the times and the hOD. Members would aaree and in particular to secure : that justice delayed is justice denied. According to me the (i) elimination of delays, reason for this sorry state affairs is speedy clea ranee of arrears tbe t the appiontment of judaes is made and reduction of COSls so by the Home Ministry. Tbe Home is not in positio I AI to aecure quick aDd eeo- Ministry a to appoint DOm iea I di.,.al of eue. jud.. in variOUI court.. TIle,. are JANUARY 27, 198~ Oral An'w~" 24

vacancies in tlie posts of judges and SHRI A. K. SEN tl is Justices in various courts and it is nnder the Law Ministry. It is leart that eminent professiona))y a a separate Ministry which was qualified persons are not considered to constjtu!ed long time ago. And we III up these -.racancies. Here is a are trying our best-I never say, we atatement given that lakhs and lakhs have done-to see that the appoint- bf cases are pending alJ over the ments of judges are not held up more country. I would request the hon. than it is necessary. Minister kindly to tell us what action is beina taken in his Ministry to clear Secondly about the availabili,y -of these arrears. cheap justice for the common man, we have got very far-reachina propo- sals which will be brought before the SHRI A. K. SEN: It is admi tted House in due course and I hope aiain tha t there has been a large accumula- that during the next five years, wo tion of arrears of cases not merely shall be able to tell the people that in the High Courts and the Supreme justice has now become nearer. Court but also in the Subordinate Courts and it is our aim to clear them all during the next five years. Tha t is SHRI ERASU A YY APU REDDY: tbe mandate given to me by our leader, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to know tbe Prime Minister. I hope tha t I from the hone Minister, if there is shall be abl. to carry out th~ man- any proposal to separate the ;:tppeJiate date in coopera tion wi th the hon . juridiction of the Suprenle Court Members of the House. from the constitutional jurisdiction, and create a separate court of appeals in order to reduce the pendency of SHRI K. T. KOSALRA~1: I cases. Has any time limit been fixed would like to know from the hOD. for the final di~posa I of cases by the Minister whether he is makIng his Supreme COUJt 1 It is commOJ efforts to assume full charge of his knowledge; that civil matters are takn- Ministry so that the appointment of ing at least a decade for coming up judges could be mad~ with a great for final hearing, and criminal matters aence of urgency. I would also are taking at least seven years for final like to know from the hon. Mi nis ter disposal. whether he would ensure indept:n .. dence of the judicial y when the ap- pointment of Judges and Justices is Is there any proposal to increase in th>! hands of the Home Ministry. the number of judges at the Supreme What steps are being taken by the Court as well as a t the Hiah Courts? Law Minister to clear the pending • cases so that justice is given to the SHRI A. K. SEN: The first ques· ~ommon J)eopJe l' tion is about the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. The constitu- SHRI A. K. SEN: The hon. tion envI!)ages that the primary jurisdic· Member has raised several questions. tion of the Supreme Court will be J will answer them one by one. Sir, appellate; it will be the supreme appel. the hone Member is not aware of late authQri ty asainst all tribunals, tne fact regarding the appointment biah Courts and even ordinary courts. of Judles. He does Dot perhaps Its oriliaaJ jurisdiction is confined to know that the appointment of judges disputes of the States and in rca_rd and Justices is with the Law Ministry to 'he oplDlons which may be aDd that is for quite some time sought by th" President. Thererorc~ DOW. the original jurisdiction is ver), '\I ery nealiaible and cornea inlo pJay very SHIll K.T. KOSALRAM: But very rarely. But 10 far as the appellate jurildic:tion is coocerncd, it is true I.A.S. Officers are recommended by tho Home MiDi.tr)'. th., tbcre bat bolD .c~ummuJ.tioD MAGHA ~, 1906 (SAkA)

of work for a long time, and we SHRI A. K. SEN : We have Dot must tackle it on a priority ba'iis. For set up people's court. No proposal tbat, we must hav~ more judges, we has so far been formulated therefor. must also see that the judges who are recruited dispense justice and the : English)' procedures do not brook delay.

SHRI SHARAD DIOHE: Is there There are sev~ra·1 outstanding pro- any proposal to increase the . salaries posals which have to be completely of the judges of the Supreme Court collated and synthesized and brought and the High Courts and to improve before the House, aod we hope also their service conditions so that still to have the report of a High ·Power b!tter p~op1e can b~ attracted towards Judicial commis~ion to deal with the these posts and the efficiency to dispose various problems. As I told you, we of the cases may increase? can only hope and pray that during the next five years, we shall be re- SHRI A. K. SEN: That is one alJy grappling with the problem ef- of the major proposals under conside- fectively and properly. ration.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Unless you do that, prospective judges MR. SPEAKER: Agarwaly, please will come to the ParJiament ..•... put a supplementary question, be- (interruptions) cause yours is the first question. SHRI A. K. SEN: But the hon. SHR( JAl PARKASH AGAR\VAL : l\h'!Jnber bas passed that stage. Mr. Speaker, Sir, tbrcugh you. I would like to kno", wh:!thef, kl!eping SHRI N. TO~fBI SINGH: For in view the dJy-by-day increase in the entire North-Eastern Slates and the number of cases, efforts ha\ e Union Territores, Gauhati Higb Court been made to effect corresponding alone is handling th~ cases. Naturally, increase in the number of judges? there are a lot of pending cases. Is th~ hon. Minister aware of the de- MR. SPEAKER: This has already mands made by the States of ~tanipur bee n answered. and Tripura for a separate High Court. If so, what steps are being taten by SHRI JAI PARKASH AGARWAL: the Government ? Have the Government taken any action in regard to peoples court, so that cor- SHRI A. K. SEN: Gauhati High ruption. which is on the incr~ase, is Court is one of the exceptions about checked? accumulation of arrears. The state- ment shows that the accumulation is SHR[ A. K. SEN : Th::se are only 12,541. whicb is very very aood two dIfferent questions. Firstly, we compared to the other tigure, which are trying that all the cases are di~posed speak for themselves. of as early as possible. In so far as corruption is conc~rned, WI.! have Prices of Life Savini OralS Dever heard any such thing about the Supreme Conrt ..• ·41. SHRf CHITIA MAHATA : Will the Minister of CHEMICALS (interruptions) AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: SHRI JAI PARKASH AGARWAL: "lease tell us about tbe peoples (a) whether Government arc Court. Itudyina the reasons for cODtia'ous ~? brat ~lUwers JANUAAv ~2, 198~

higb prices or life saving drugs in the 1984.85 upto December, the Who- country ; lesale Price Index of Commodities was 336.30 while that of drugs aDd (b) if so, the d~tails of the deci- pharmaceuticals was 216.8. Then in sion taken by Government to check the 1983-84, the Wholesale Price Index" rise in prices of such drug~ and also was 31S.3 and for drugs and phar- to lower them so that poor people maceuticals, it was 213.3. In 1982-83, can aJso avail of such drugs; and the Wholesale Price Index was 288.3 and for drugs and pharmaceuticals, 171.4. Sir, I agree with the hone (c) if not, the reasons therefor? member that there is increase in the prices of drugs, but compared to the THE OF MINISTER CHEMICALS wholesale price index, in increase is AND FERTJLIZERS AND IN- not much and in certain industries DUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS: the increase is larger, and in certain (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) to drugs the increase in prices is lower (c) It is not true to say that the and they have been reduced also. prices of life saving drugs are conti .. DUOUSJy high in the country. About 75 percent of the drugs and formula- SHRI CHIITA MAHATA: The tions are price' controlled. ReVision of hon. Minis ter has given reply on Jy prices of price controlled bulk drugs with' regard to the wholesale prices. and formulations is done in accordance I want to know the posi tion of the with the provisions of Drugs (Prices retail prices in the market. Control) Order, 1979. In respect of decontrolled formulations, manufac. SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: Sir, turers are free to adjust their prices. the hon. member wants to know the However, 00 the whole, the increase retail prices of all the drugs. There in the prices of drugs and formulations are more then ten thousand drugs and has been lower than that of the how is it possible for fit! give the in- wholesale price index all commodi- formation? ties. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN SHRI CHITTA MAHATA: Mr. That is unfair. He is asking about Speaker, Sir, I do not agree with the general trend. the repJay of the hone Minister. In the market, the prices of )ife-saying drugs have increased at least 75 percent or more over the last five years, uuder SHRIMA TI USHA THAKKAR : the existing drug price control. Under The pricies of all the commed, tits have the circumstances, I would like to been resing. Altnough the prices of know from the hon. Minister whether medicinal have not gone so high let the Minisrer is in a position to the poor people are not get ling pro- amend th~ Drug Price Control per medicines in Government HospjlaJs, Order, so tha t prices ot- Ii fe-saving be it a referred hospital or a civil drugs' can be checked from further hospital. I want that the poor people increase. show aet enough medicines is all hospi- tals so that they are benefited. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND PERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI VEERENDRA PATJL): Sir, in my SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: If reply, I have said that compared to there is any shortage, the hone Member the Wholesale Price Index, the increase is at liberty to briol it to my notice. in tbe prjce of druas is Jower. I ha vc We will see that the drugs wbicb arc .,ot liautel Co substantiate this. In in sbort luppl)' arc provided. ·29 Oral Answprs MAGHA 2. 1906 (SAT(A) Oral An,wer, 30

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Fifty (b) if so, the details thereof and percent of our pep ole are living below the decision taken thereon ? the poverty line and as such they can- not afford to buy medicines. Also, the THE MINISTER OF LAW AND Government wants to achieve "Health JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN): (a) for al1" by 2000 AD. If so, and (b). Article 130 of the Constitution whether the government wi 11 con- provide that "the Supreme Court sider the proposa I of the West shall sit in Delhi or in Such other Bengal Government, Hathi Committee place or places. as the Chief Justice and WHO to reduce the prices of of India may with the approval . of about 97 essential drugs and life- the President, from time to time~ saving drugs; and whether it is a fact appoint.·· No proposal has been that multinational companies and received from the Chief Justice of monopoly houses and drug industries India in this regard. are pro ducing tonic and syrup in- stead of life-saving drugs; jf so, what steps government wants to take PROF. P.l. KURIEN: The ans- and whether government propose to wer is not only short but evasive also. formulate a nationa1 drug poticy. He has quoted the relevant portion of the Constitution. I do not know how it is relevant here. Does the Con- SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL: So, sti tution bar setting up a bench of far as princing of the drugs is concer- tbe Supreme Court anywhere in the ncd, BICP periodically reviews the country? In fact, the Constitution prices and wherever j t is necessary evisages about it. You have quoted or either they reduce the price they Article 130 of the Constitution. So, increase the price; and under BtCP, the Supreme Court only envisages new there is a Drug Price Review Com- benches in other places; it never pro- mittee and they review the prices. hibits. Then 1 do not know what the trend of the prices and they is the logic of givi ng this portion of collect all the information. I think the Constitution. How far have the they meet every week in order to clients from TanliI Nadu or KeraJa study the trend of the prices in drugs or Karnataka or from the eastern and pharmaceuticals and they make region or north eastern region to recommendations to our Ministry: travel? How much money have on their recommendation. we take they to spend? Most of these people action. The hone member wanted to who really want to file an appeal in know whether a new policy is being the Supreme Court cannot do it be. considered. .I\1y predecessor in 1 Q83 cause of these thing'i. Our motto is constituted a National Drug and to see that justice shouJd reach the Pharmaceutical DeveJopment Council poor and the common people. In and that Council has submitted a this way, can it be possible to do it? report and the report is under conside- He himself ~ave the number of cases ration. pending in the Supreme Court-!.48 Jakhs. What steps do ~:ou propose to take for opening up new benches of Setting up of a Bencb of SUprf'Dle Court the Supreme Court in other places in the South especiaJJy in the South?

*43. FROF. p.J. KURIEN: Will SHRI A. K. SEN: It is very the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE difficult to make out the question be pleased to state: from the proposal made by the hon. member. But what I could gather (a) whether there is a proposal from his proposal is: what prevents to set up a bench of the Supreme tbe government from setting up ben- Court in the South ; and ches of the Supreme Court outside 31 Oro/ An.twtrs JANUAR·Y 22, 1985 Ora/ An~werl 32

Delhi? His question was whether happens to be centrally located for there was any proposal to set up a the South, and it is proper ror the bench of the Supreme Court in the Union Minister to set up a Bench South, not aJ1 over the country_ Now, there. May I know the position of as I said, the only manner by which tha t proposa I ? such a proposal can be made under the Constitution is for the Cheif Ju~tice SHRI A. K. SEN: There is of India to make a proposal. Then a alone can the 80vernment consider it. good der.1 of dispute as to whether If the hon. member reads Article 130 Tamil Nadu is situated at the centre. When TughJaQ shifted he will find that the manner for such Mohammad Bin a proposal is also specifically jndicated. his capital from Delhi it was Devagiri The proposal must come from the aDd not Tami I Nadu ! Chief Justice of India. Now about the question of difficulty being created MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaipa I unless the South has a bench of the Reddy. Now your State is in the Supreme Court, the hoo. member Centre! may be informed that even the South could not agree where it should be. SHRI SUDINI JAIPAL REDDY: Tamilnadu wanted it in Tamilnadu; I do not want to walk into the trap Kerala wanted it in Kerala; Hy- laid for us by the Minister. He was derabad, wanted it in Hyderabad; trying to tie us into dirty knots. Nagpur wanted it in Nagpur. My point is this. Let them locate Now, it takes the same time to come it anywhere in the South, it is wei. from Tami Inadu to Hyder~ bad as from come. But wi)) the Minister take a Hyderabad to Delhi. I think it wi II decision ? There are always problems cost the same money . Therefore, I in location of industries. think the proposaJ of the Chief Justi. ces who had assembled quite some- MR. SPEAKER: Let us take a time back was that the on ly way to bal1ot. rerney the hardship of the people would be to make legal aid to the poor SHRI SUDJNI JAJPAL REDDY : moereasily available. Are you, therefore. not locating in- dustriec; at all? Tha t should be no PROF. P.J. KURJEN: Ar~ you pre- argumen t. I am on Jy pleading with pared to 100k at this problem afresh tbe Minister whether he would take and address to the Chief Justice of up with the Supreme Court of India India to send a proposal for setting and do something about it. up a bench of the Supreme Court in the South ? t\'lR. SPEAKER: Dr. Kalanidhi.

SHRI A. K. SEN; First' of alJ, ( Interruptiolls) the South nlust agree where it should be ; and secondly, we had enough of SlIRI A. K. SEN : I did not it, If South wants j t, then Kera la give any replay because the Hon. will also want it. Tripura wi)) also Speaker has caJled somebody else. The want it, Assam wi II also want it; every_ answer is very clear. body will want it. MR. SPEAKER: J thought it was

SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU.· S'cI • a suggest ion. Jitiption is becoming costly t:lOW and we have already sent proposals from SHRI A. K. SEN: I too thought the Tami I Nadu Government to the that it was a suggestion. The sug- Chief Justice of India and also to gestion will be certainl) considered. tbe Union Government for setting up But the Chief Justice must make a a Bench of the Supreme Court j n proposal under the Constitution. We Tj·mal Nad'.l because Tamil Nadu cannot short circuit the constitutional 33 Oral Answer. MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) Oral Answers 34

procedure. At least as a Law Minister THE MINISTER OF STATE IN I do not advise it. THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARADWAJ): DR. A K. ALANIDHI : The hon. (a) to (c): The hone Member knows Minister says that the Chief Justice of that under the Constitution the process India should be convinced. I would of holding the election and conducting like to know from the hon. Minister the eJection vests in the Ejection whether he is aware that the Chief Commission. And it is not merely on Justice of India had visited Tamil the reports of the newspapers that the Nadu and that he was convinced of Election Commission takes cognisance. the need for setting up a Bench of the The Election Commission has to act Supreme Court in Tamil Nadu. The on the repor ts of the Returining Offi- Government of Tamil Nadu has allotted cers and observers and on the com- a place aJso and made a proposal to plaints made by the relevant parties shift the Law College also_ Is the to the election. Thereafter the Election hone Minister aware that the Chief Commission makes up its mind as to Justice of India is wi1ling to have a how to act in a particular case, News- Bench in Tamil Nadu, to be toca ted paper reports are essential1y one of in the Madras ci ty ? the sources of information to the Election Commission. Such reports SHRI 'A.K. SEN: The hone were received and in persuance of Member knows more about the con- those reports the Election Commission viction of the learned Chief Justice did take action in approximately S3 and myself. But the only way to find cases. It is very well known to the hon. Member that in all these cases, expression of his conviction would be some polls were adjorned, others were to make such a proposal. vitiated and repolJ was held. The Government has absolutely no roU in SHRI A.K. PANJA: Would the the conduct of elections, vitiating the Government~ as a matter of policy, set poll or adjourned the po)J. According up such benches in Bombay, Madras to the constitutional provisions, when and Calcutta? the election process starts, the powers vest in the Election Commission itself. So whetever was necessary was SHRI A. K. SEN: The proposals done during the Lok Sabha polls. must also come from the Chief Justice There is no question of the Govern- and then we will consider it. ment going into all these details be- (lnterruptlons) cause the Governnlent does not have any power to do so. When there is a Enquiry ioto l\lalpractices in Elections demand by the hon. Members that the Govt!rnment should act, they must also -44. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR appreciate that the moment the YADAV: Will the Minister of LAW Government interferes, there will AND JUSTICE be pleased to state: again be a cry that there is interfe- rences, by the Government...... (In!e,,uptions) In 8 cases the poll was (a) whether his a ttention has been adjourned and in almost 164 dra wn to various newspaper reports polling stations the poll was vitiated ••• about rig~ing and m:llpractices during (lnt~rruptions) So far as rigging is con- voting for Lok Sabha elections in cerned, you will appreciate that it is December, 1984; more on the other side than on our ~ide. (b) if so, whether Government propose to make an enquiry into these .' Trans/olion_' allegations; and SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV: ~1r. Speaker , Sir, the intention behind (C) if so, tqe ~et~i1s thereof? 3' Olal Answers JANUARY 2!, 1985 Oral Answer' 36

askiDI this question was to know SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV: whether Government wou Id take any Tbe question is that they have mention .. action on the complaints received about ed 53 constituencies and the reports elections, cOmplaints may rela te to of the Returning Officers were sent rigging or misuse of offici a 1 machi- under pressure. But what about the nery or any other thing. But tbe reports and complai nts received from Goveroment have expressed their in- the political parties and the contes- ability to do anything in this regard tants? For exampJe, brea ki ng open saying that only the EJection Com- the stroDa-room in Patoa, withdrawal mission is empowered to deal with of the circular issued by the Ejection such cases and the Government can- Commission, booth captur jng, etc. If Dot do anything in the matter. Mr. the Government think that oOIY the Speaker. Sir, you know about it and Election Commission have powers to they have stated in their reply that deal with such matters, an apprehen_ out of 54 Parliamentary Constituencies, ison of large-scale bungling in elections complaints have been received in re ~ continues. 1 want to know whether gard to 53 constituencies in Bihar Government is going to take any mea. state alone-either from Returning sures in this regard? It is not the Officers or from otbers. It is a proof matter of the Returning Officer only in itself that the polls held and the but I want to know whether Govern- resulti declared in Bihar indicate that ment contemplate to amend ejection rigging bas taken place therc and Jaws to redress the grievances of the official mechinery has been misucd. persons beloning to political parties, Mr. Speaker. Sir, 1 am not now men- so that fair elections are conducted tioning the name of any place. and the ruling plrty does not have an But I want to draw the attention of opportunity to do any rigging? the Hon -ble Minister to a circuJa r (If the Ejection Commission stating that counting whouJd be stopped at those THE ~IINISTER OF LAW AND places where 90 or more JUSTICE (SHRI A.I<. SEN): Mr. than 90 per cent poUing has taken Speaker, Sir, I want to thank Yadav ji place and after considering the maHer. for his speech. J f he asks a question, orders would be issued for repoll it would be replied. Yada \' ji has or making any other arrangements won the election himself. Had the

tbere. Mr. Speaker t Sir, in Patoa con- ejection Jaws not worked weJJ, he would stituency, which is the capital of not have won. Whatever be the com- Bihar, 9() or more than 90 plaints, these are to be decided either per cent polJjng has takcn pJace at by the Election Commission or by a about 100 polling booths. I want to court of Jaw through elelction petition. say this only that in Patna ...... Government ha(\ no power other than (I n/~'rUp';on$) these two rCJnedies. ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: This is not a Question. SHRI VIJAY '

MR. SPEAKER: Please ask the SHR[ H.R. BHARADWAJ: Mr. question in proper form. Speaker, Sir, I want to repJy 10 this 37 Writtell An.swerj H'r;lten All .. w~rl ;1 question. I want to say that they (C) whether the proposals made should stop indulging in rigging by his Ministry had already been ac- themselves. that is the reply to this cepted by the Planning Commission to question ....•. (lnt~rrllption$) be incltJdod in the Seventh Plan; and

MR. SPEAKER: Everybody has (d) if so, the major scheme, tbat his own logic. are likeJy to be undertaken in tbe Se- venth Plan? SHRI H.R. BHARADWA] : This is a correct reply. They have won by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF indulging in rigging and they are now THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA.. levelJing charges against others. People TIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS have voted in our favour and we MIRDHA); (a) Yes, Sir. have won ... ( Inr erruptions) (b) The total amount SOulht for telecommunication i! Rs. 13,768 SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV : crores. What does the Hon'bJe Minister say? Have I induJged in rigging? Is this a (C) and (d) : These are still under reply : discussion with the Planning Com .. mission. SHRI H.R. BHARAD\VAJ : He is saying that peopJe have \\on by induJ- Oil Exploration Daring the Se,entb &ing in rigging ... (huerrllpr,,,,,s) Five Year PIa n

MR. SPEAKER: Please do not *45. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: say like that. \Vill the Minister of PETROLEU M be pleased to state:

(a) whether Governm.:nt hav .. ta ken steps to in tensi fy oil explorae WRIT fEN A""SWERS TO QUESTIONS tion operations in the count ry during the Seventh Five Year Plan;

. English (b) if so, the details thereof and .... lIocation of Funds for Telf'phone Expan- the allocation of funds, Sla Ie-wise ; sion in tbe Se\'enth Plan and

.42. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will (c) tbe names of the pJa~cs where tbe Minisler of COMMUNIC -\TIONS oil exploration operation will tate be pleased to sta le : place '"!

(a) whether Go\'crnment are considering to seek more aid and al- THE MINISTER OF STATE location of funds for the Seventh Plan OF THE MINISTRY OF PETRO- period so that the remaining targets of LEUM (SHRf NAWAL KISHORE tbe Sixth Plan are completed and new SHARMA) : (a) to (C). The SeveDth schemes for the benefit of telephone Five Year Plan has yet to be finalised. The subscribers in India are imple- exploratory effort is proposed to be mented ') stepped up considerably durina ,be Sc\'enth Plao period. Details caD be furnished after tbe Seventh Plan bas (b) if so, the total amount SOUibt for telephones in the Seventh Plan beta finaU.d. ~9 Written Answers WrItten Answers 40

Telecommunication and Postal Facilities in Tribal Areas compensation from the Union Carbide Company for the sufferers ; and *46. SHRI GIRIDHAR GO- MANGO: Will the Minister of (d) Government policy in regard COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to to the persons who became disa bJed state : due to this tragedy?

(a, the norms adopted by his THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS Ministry and communicated to concer.. AND FJ::RTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY ned Circles for better telecommunica- AND COMPANY AFFAIRS: (SHRI tion facilities and postal services in VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) Govern- tribal area, of the country during the ment of Madhya Pradesh have so far Sixth Plan period; ascertained that 1408 persons died in the accident. Further vertification is (b) whether the concerned Circles being done by the State Government. have fulfilled the aims and objectives of the policy ; (b) On receipt of the report of the accident the Central Government (c) if so, the details thereof, Cir- took immediate action far making cles .. wise ; and available to the State Government assistance in the !"orm of deputing technical and medical experts, supply (d) if not, the reasons thereof? of medicines and equipment and sup- ply of other meteriaJ requirements: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF These included :- THE MINISTRY OF COM~tUNICA­ TIONS (SHRI RA M NISWAS (i) A team of scientists and MIRDHA); (a) to (d) ; A statement chemical engineers headed is laid on the Table of the Lok Sabha. by Dr. Varadarajan. Direc- [pJeaced in Library See No. L T- tor General, Council of Sci· 169 }85] entific and Industrial Re- search. who heJped in or- Relief to Bhopal Gas l.eakage Traged~' ganising the safe disposal Victjm~ of remaining Methyl Isoc- yanate (MIC) and who *47. SHRI CH,NTAMANI rerncsined present throughout lENA for monitoring and reader- ing advice. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD:

Will the Minister of CHEMICALS (ii) Setting up of a AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to MeteoroJogical Control state: Centre for continuous monitoring of atmospheric conditions. (a) the total number of persons as per Government record who dJed in the BhopaJ gas iragedy last (iii) Despatch of expert teams month; for analysing environmen- tal conditions and for tes- ting air, water and plant (b) the details of assistance given foliage, including veletab- by the Centre to the State Govern- lea and fruits, for toxi- ment to solve the problem and help city. the families who suffered; (iv) Airlifting of medica' ex- (C) the steps beio, takeD to aet pert., medicine., medical ~ 41 Written Answe;$ W';lten AlUwerl 42

and other equipment, in- (a) whether the journalists have cluding o~ygen cylinders and been pressing for a Wage Board ,. gas maskes, to Bhopal.

(b) if so, the reaction of Govern- (v) Despatch of a CBI team ment thereto; and beaded by an Inspector General of Police for in- (C) the steps proposed to be taken vestigating the accident. to look into the demand of journalists and to redress their grievances? (vi) Organising special trains during the MIC neutralising THE MINISTER OF STATE OF operation. THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH) ; (a) Yea, Sir .. (vii) Providing special aircraft for aerial water spraying (b) and (C). The matter is of the factory area. under consideration of the Govern.. menta (viii) Development of Army per- Expansion of T.V. Network ia Orb•• sonnel and Central Reserve Police for assisting 10al civi I ·49. SHRlMATI JAYANTI authorities. PATNAIK: Will tbe Minister of INFOMATION AND BROADCAS- An amount of of Rs. 42 lakhs in TING be pleased to state : cash and approxima tely Rs. 55 lakhs in the form of edible oil and sugar has (a) whether Government had been made available to the State taken steps to extend the T.V. network Goverement from prime ~tinister's In the country during the Sixth Relief Fund. The Government of Plan ~ India have also released a ways and means advance of Rs. 5 crores to the (b) if so, tbe T.V. network expan- State Government. ded in Orissa and other States durin, the above Plan period ; and (c) A lega) celJ has been establis- hed in the Ministry of Law and (c) the T.V. network proposed tbe Government of India is consi- to be expanded in OriiSa i D tbe re- dering, in consultation with tbe mainiDj period of the Sixth PJan ? State Government, various options available for obtaining adequate com... THE MINISTER OF STATE OF pensation for the victims and re- THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION covery of expenses incurred by AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. Government. GADGIL): (a» Yes, Sir.

(d) The Slate Government has (b) and (c). 3 Low Pow.:r TV Trans- undertaken a comprehensive survey of mitters at Bbubaocswar, Bcrbampur and tbe families livi ng in the affected Rourkela have been commissiood in areas. Bansed on tbe needs of v"llued- Orissa during tbe VI Plan. In all, 150 rable members of the affect new TV Centres, as detailed in the families, as may be indicated by the enclosed Statement bave been set up Survey data. suitable ameliorative 'mea" in the country, durin, the VI Plan. sures will be taken. A HiSh Power TV transmitter at Wage Board ror Journalists Cultack and a Low Power traDSlDiUer *48. DR. KRUPASINDHU at Koraput are scheduled for BHOI: Will the Minister of commissioniDi in Orissa durina the LABOUI. be pleased to atate : remaioiDi period of tJae VI PJa,o. iANUAay 22. i9l~

State.eat

T\! Celli'.' tJ, 0" 1;.1.19;5 168 Nos.

State/Union Territory HPT Centres LPT 'Ceotres

ASSAM Oauhati Dibrugarb Tezpur Silchar

ANDHRA PRADESH Hyderabad· Warangal Kaki 'ada Vi5hakhapatnam

Vijayawada Rajamundry Nellore Nizamabad Kutnool ADaDtpur Tirupati

Adoni Cuddapah Mehboobaa Karimnagar

BIHAR Paloa Dhanbad Muzzafarpur* Jamshedpur Ranchi Gaya Bhalalpur MUDler

Purnea

DELHI Delhi·

GUJAaAT Ahmedabad Surat

pjj. Dw.rlca

Ra;kot Vadodra Bbavoa •• r Nava,ari Blaruch Pita a 4S Writt,,, Answer, MAGMA l, 1906 (S..xA) W,JlleJl_.Nuwc, .. .,

2 3

HARYANA Hissar

Bbiwani

KARNATAKA BaDg.Jore Dbafwad

Gulbar,a- Mysore Maop)ore BeJpum

Bellary Devanagare Bbadravati Bijapur Raicbur Gadag Betagari

Hospet KERALA Trivandrum CaHcut

Cannanor~

Palgbat Coehin

MADHY A PRADESH Bbopal Jabalpur Indore Gwalior Raipur- Ratlam

Sagar Burbanpur Rewa Murwara Bilaspur MAHARASHTRA Bombay· Sbolapur Naapur Nasik Pune· Kolbapur

Auraogab4ld Sana1i Amrawati Malepon Akol. DboJe Naaded Ahmedoalar 47 ",itte" AnnPet'l JAJlUt\RY 22, 1935 Written Answer' 48

1 2 3 ._------~ ~~---~------~-- -- ..._- -~~- -.------Jalgaon

Jalna Bbusawal

Chandrapur

Latur

Parbhani Gondiya

MANJPUR Imphal ORISSA SambaJpur- Rourkela Bhubaneswar

Burhampur

RAJASTHAN Jaipur· Jodhpur

Ajmer

Kota Bikaner

Udaipur

Alwar Ganganagar

Bhilwara

Khetri Jaisalrner Barmer Suratgarh

PUNJAB Amntsar* Pathankot

Jalandbar* Bhatinda

TAMIL NADU Kodaikanal Tiruchipapalli

Madras· SaJem Ve1lore

Kumbakonam

Coimbatore UTIAR PRADESH Allahabad BareilJy Asra Deoria Gorakhpur Moradabad · Ali,arh 49 Writ/en An,we,s MAGHA 2. 1906 (SAKA)

1 2 3

Mussorie* Jhansi

Kanpur* Sultanpur Rai-Bareilly Faizabad Etawah Behraich Shabjahanpur Rampur Pauri Farukbabad Sambbal Nainital

WEST BENGAL Asaosol KaralPur Calcutta* MaIda Murshidabad Berdhaman Ballurghat Shantiniketan

HIMACHAL PRADESH Kasauli Kulu Simla JAMMU AND KASHMIR Srinagar* Leh Kargil Jammu MEGHALAYA Tura SbiJlong

PONDICHERRY Pondicberry

NAGALAND Kohima

MIZORAM Aizwal

SIKKIM Gangtok Tirpura Agartala

Anduman and Nicobar Port Blair lslaDds Arunachal Pradesh Itanagar Goa. Daman and Diu Panaji

.TV Centres existiug in the country at the beginning of VIth Plan-II Nos. 51 W,itlen An!w~rs JAN'UAR.Y 22, 1985~ Written Answers 52

DiscoTery of Natural Gas in (c) No, Sir. Andhra Pradesh Demand for Improvement in the Services *50. SHRI KAMAL NA TH : of Telephone and P & T Department Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be pJeased to sta te : *51. SHRI MOHANLAL PATEL: Will the Minister cf COMM UNICA- (a) wh~ther good reserves of na- TJONS be pleased to sta Ie : tura I gas have rocently been discovered in Andbra Pradesh ; (a) whether the Saurashtra Cham- ber of Commerce and Industry, (b) if so. the facts thereof; Bhavngar (Gujarat) has demanded aod an improvement in the services of TeJephone a ad Posts and Te legraphs Departments : (c) whether Government propose to set up aoy refinery in Andhra (b) jf so, the main demands of the Pradesh to utilise the recently discove- Chamber; and red natura) gas '? (c) the action taken/proposed by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Government thereon '! THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUf..1 (SHRI NA\\'AL KISHORE SHAR~1A): THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF C01\11\fUNICA- (a) and (b). Gas was struck in a well TIONS (SHRI RAf\1 NIWAS f\.1IRDHA): at Kaikalur in Krishna District C'f (a) Yes, Sir Andhra Pradesh. During testing the

well produced gas at the rate of 4100 (b) and (c). The main suggestion I cubic metres per day with 5:!O PSI demands and action taken or proposed to be taken are as given in the state- pressure. men t attached.

Statement Sllgge~tionf Demands of Saura .... hI1a Chamher of COll1m~rce all" Inclll~["Y and Actio" To"- en! Proposed 10 ht' Taken

SUlfJestions, Demands of Saura~htra Action taken/proposed !o be taken Chamber of Commerce and Industry. to remove the difficulties.

I. Telephone service in 8bal'Da~ar 1. TelCllhone S :.-n·ice in n~lav nagar District. Distrkr. 0) Air-conditioning pJant of (i) Existing 26 5 tons of AC Bhavnagar exchange should has been working be repaired immediately Plant sati. sfactorily from 6.6.84 so tha t better service cou Id onwards. Order has been be provided. pJaced for 8 numbers 1.6 tons window type air-con- di tioners 00 5.1:!. J984 to augment the existing 26 . .5 tons AC Plant.

(ii) There is need for :tugmen. (;;) AJI the posts of technicia os ting technical staff lor sanctioned as per standard maintenance of te)~· have been filled up. phones. ~3 W,.;ften Answers MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA)

Z, Point to point STD service between 2. Poiat to poiat STD le"ice between Bbavoagar-Bomhay and Bbavnagar- BlaavDagar·Bombay 8ud-Bha•• pr- Rajkot. RaJkot.

In view of the increasinl trallic at Bhavnagar and t.Rajkot have Bhavna&ar and business ~ relations with already been connected OD level·O' Rajkot and Bombay, there is urcent to Ahmedabad TAX and throuth need for pr~vjding point to point which these cities can aet Bombay STD service between Bbavnaaar.. as well as each other. Howcycr. Bombay and Bbavnaaar-Rajkot. work for providina point to point STD between Bbavna&ar and Rajlcot is in proaress in view of tbe direct traffic be tween them.

3. STD fadlities at level '0" (via 3. STD facilitie·s at level '0'. TAX). No. of channels from Bhavnaaar At present only 16 channels are to Ahmedabad and ,Ahmedabad to available between Bhavnagar and Bhavnagar have already been increased Ahmedabad TAX to provide STO service to 23 and 31 respectively and there with about 250 cities in the country is n:) complaint from subscribers for which are adequate. Channels should geHina STD service. be increased suitably. (inadequate)

4. Telephone excha n~e at Alang. 4. Telt"pb one Exchange at Alaag.

The existing 25 Jines Small Au- The ca paci ty of t~l'; existing 25 tomatic Exchange is proposed to be lines telephone exchange at Alang replaced by 100 lines Automatic ex- should be enhanc-.:d to 200 lines keep- change. Scheme has already been fa~t d~vl!lopment ing in \'j;!W lne of approved. Proj>!ct estimates and (1...;- indu·>tries in the arc!as. tailed estimates are under pruct:~s and will be sanctioned shortly. Work will tx t:d.. ..:n up on r~~dpt of' stores.

Poisonous Gases and Clte.in's tc) whether any chemica Is which is l\lanufartur(':~ in the Countary banned in developed industrid' cououic.i is manufactured or is an inl~rmedia(e ·S':!. SHRI S:L\TYI ~DRA l'ARA YAN product in this country; SINHA: Will the l\1i:lister of CHEMI- CALS AND FER TJ LIZERS be pleased (d) whether Government were aware state: of phosgene and MIC being produced in the factory in Bhopal; and (a) whether Gov.:rnm:n [ a re aware that poisonous gases and chemi.:als like Phosgene, Methyl Isocya nate, Hydro- (e) when this factory was licensed gen sulphide etc. a re manu (actured in and details of tbe terms of safety for tbe country; licensing?

, THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (b) if so, the step being taken to AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY ensure that the chemical output or AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI intermediate products of fa.:toriel pro- VEERENDRA PA TJL): (a) and (b) ducioa dlemicala and fertilizers are pro .. While hazardous chemicals, like Plaos- duced or disposed of safely; acne, methyl Isocyanate, Hydroaen Sulp· 55 Written Answtrs JANuARY 22. 1985 bide are manufactured in the country, the agro-climatic and other related aspocts relating to safety in factories aspects. including thos\! produCIng such chemi- cals, as covered under the provisions of Factories Act, 1948. are required to (d) and (e). An Industrial Licence be ~omplied with. At the time of issue was issued to Union Carbide India' of ao Industrial Licc!nce also, one of Limtted in October 1975 .or the manu- the conditions stipulated is for maklog facture of MIC bassed pesticides in the adequate arrangements for controlling factory in Bhopal. Tbe process of Manu- water, air and soil poUut ion. facture of MIC in the plant involves making of Phosgene as an intermediate. The Central PoJ)ution Control Board The Industrial Li:ence was issued has constituted a Committee to identify , subject, inter o/ia, to the condition that inter alia't those induslrit!s which are to adequate steps will be taken to the be recognised as hazardous and to pre- satisfaction of the Government for pare an inventory Stdte-wise. In addi- control of water, air and soiJ pollution. tion, the Central Government have advised all tbe State Government and Regularisation or Extra Depart- Union Territory adlninistrations for mental Employees of Posta I settIng up a Commille..:/Task Force or Department Export Group for upua ing informatJon on occupational and health ·53. SHRI V.S. VIJAYRAGHAVAN: hazards and jmplementatlon Will the Minister of COMMUNI- of tbe safety provi.,l(,.lS in chemicals CATIONS be pleased to state: industries and other industries uSIng haurdous operations. (a) whether Government have any proposal to regularise the Extra depart- All State admini~~rations have been mental employees of the Postal Depart- further advised to unol.!rtake a through ment; and review of various r .!gulations, conlrol and preventive measure contained in (b) if so, the details thereof? the Rules and RegUJaltons relating to hazardous chemIcal manufactunn& THE MINISTER OF STATE OF processes. THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICAT- IONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): The Central Government have also (a) & (b) No, Sir. There is no such decided to set up a Spt:cial Cell make proposal under consideration of the a detailed study of the practices in Government to treat the Extra depart- vogue, in developed countries for deal- mental employees as regular full-time ine with hazardous substances and to Government servants. indentify the saps in lhe prevaiJins Je&islative and institutional arraogments lOSI of Production due to Diffe- in the country and suggest suitable steps rences Between Chairman aDd for strengthening such arranaements finaoce Director of F.C.I

*54. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; (c) As per inform ..ttion availabJe Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND a few chemicals/pesticides like D.D T., FERTILIZERS be pleased to state; B.H.C., Aldrin which arc not alJowed to be used or have restricted use in lome of tbe developed countries, are (a) whether serious differen~s bet- in use in this country. Each country ween the Chairman and the Finance decides the use of pesticides depending Director of Fertilizers Corporation of on the a&ro-climatic and other cons;- lodia have resulted in the loss of money deration. In ibis country, use of pestj. and production of the proposed coal- ~idel is reaulated under the Inse~ticides based plants at T!llcher and Ram_Sun- Act. which alao tatea iato conlideratioD dem cleared by tho World Baat and 51 Written Answers MAGHA 2. 1906 (SAKA) Written Answers 5~

agreejng to provide three million Tenth International Film Festival dollars assistance; and

*56. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOW .. (b) if so, the detai b thereof? DHARY: i\'ill the Minister of INFORMA tION AND BROADCAS. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS TING be pleased to state: AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI (a) whether some Film Directors of VEBRENDRA PATIL) : (a) : No, Sir. the Eastern Region left the Tenth Inter- national Film Festival of India at (b) Does not arise. Delhi complaining humiliating behaviour from the Festival authorities; Manufacturing of Drugs by unauth. orised Companies (b) if so, the details thereof;

*55 SHRI NAVIN RAVAN'I : \Vill (c) whether this Fi 1m Festival has the Minister of CHEMICALS AND suffered from serious mismanagement FRTlLIZERS b~ plea;;ed to stlte: and Government have already asked for an enquiry into the same; and (a) whether a large number of unauthorised companies are engaged in manufacturing drllgs; (d) if so, the reasons of such mjs· management in detail? (b) if so, the number of such companies which came to the notice of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Government during the years 1983 and THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION 1984 and the action taken again-~t them: AND BROADCASTING (SHRI and V.N. GADGJL) : (a) No, Sir.

(c) Go\'~rn- the steps being taken by (b) Does not arise. ment to check such unauthorised manufacture in the country? (c) and (d). Government are examin- ing the various adverse comments regar- THE MINISTER OF CHE\tlCALS ding the alleged mismanagement of the AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUS- festival. No enquiry has, however been TRY AND COMPANY AFFAlRS ordered by the Government. (SHRI VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) to (C). Presumably, the questioner is Drilling Operations for Location of Gas! referring to unau thorsied manufacture of drugs which are not of good quality. Prtroleum in Himachal Pradesb Under the Drugs and Cosmetics Act and Ruies, a licence is required for the lOt. PROF. NARAIN CHAND manufacture and saJes (If drugs in the PARASHAR: \\'ill the l\tinister of country whether or not the mJnufa~li.Ir;; PETROLELTM be pleased to state: is in the organised sector or in the: small scale sector. The Drugs & Cosme- tics Act and the Rules framed there· (a) whether Oil & NaluraJ Gas Com· under are administered by the !\1inistry mission proposes to undertake any of Heahh and the state Governments. drilling operations for locations of GasJ Whenever cases of unauthorised manu- petroleum at Jawalamukhi and othet facture come to their notice, necessary places in HImachal Pradesh; and action under the provisions of the Drugs and Cosmctks Act and Rules is (b) if so, the details thereof '1 ,aken. S9 Written Answers JANUARY 22, 1985 Written Anfwer, 6C)

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF training, credit, marketing and organi- THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM sa tional linkages. (SHRI NAWAL KISH'ORE SHARMA): (a) Yes, Sir. , i. Translation (b) ONGC bas plans to drill two Construction of V.H.F. Centre in Almora, wells on Jawalamukhi structure and one U P. each at Nurpur, Changertalai and Cheri structures in Himachal Pradesh. 103. SHRI HARISH RAWAT Will the Minister of COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to state : Educat~d Unemployed

102. SHRI l\ARAYAN (a) the time by which the con- CHOUBEY: WilJ the ~1injster of ~truction work of V.H.F. Centre in LABOUR be p~eased state: Almora is expected to be comp Jeted ; and (a) whether the Dumber of educated employed persons on the live registers (b) whether there is a proposal of Employment Exchanges in the to provide some separate channels at country has been showing a study Barei Jly to Ii nk this ~entre directly in~rease with Delhi?

(b) if so, the State-wise and cate- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF gory-wise details of the educated un- THE MINISTRY OF COr..1MUNICA- employed during 1980, 1981, lq~2, TIONS(SHRI RAM NI\VAS t\1IRDHA: 1913 and 1984; and (3) Con~tructjon of UHF Centre at Almora is expected to be completed (c) the measures proposed to be by the end of thi~ year. laken by the Union Government to provide employment to them? (b) There is no proposal to link t Almora direct ly with Delhi THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINiSTRY OF LABOUR ',SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) and (b). Informa- tion is contained in the statement I Removal of Voters ~.lmes from laid on tbe Table of the House Electoral Roll s [PJeaced in Library. See No. L T- 170/85 1 104. SHRIMATI GEETA l\1U·· KHERJEE: Will the Mil.ister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to (c) During the Seventh Five Year state : Plan, employment is to be treated as a direct focal poin t of policy. The Plan wiJl have a National Employ- (a) whether the Election Com .. ment Programme which will cover nlission has taken note of the com- target ,roups. including the educated plaints appearing in various news- unemployed. The generation of lain- papers that names of a large number (uJ employment through integration of of voters were removed from the elec- sectoral production plans with em .. toral rolls; pl~yment pJans and enJargement of on JOin, empJoyment proirammes would also be enlpbasised. 1n addition, (b) if so, the details thereof and schemes wBl continue for promotinl the reasons \berefor~ and se,r...empJoyment in economically viable (c) the basis on "'hich the electo· activities backed up by the requilit. ral rolls were revised/prepared? 61 Written Answers MAGHA 2,. 1906 (SAKA) Written Anlwer.J 62

THE MINISTER OF LAW AND and objections were received there JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN): (a) itself and final publication Qf elec- In addition to the news reports, the toral rolls was made at the respective Election Commission had also recei- po Bing booths to enable the voters ved complaints regarding omlSSJon to check whether the names had ap- of names in the electoral rolls from peared in the final rolls. The recog- different parts of the country. nised political parties were also sup- plied with copies of the draft rolls (b) Such complaints were recei- under rule 11 (c) of the Registration ved from all States and Union ter- of EJectors Rules, 1960 to enable ritories except Kerala. Manipur. them to check the draft Pondicherry and Arunachal Pradesh rolls and to bring to the notice of after announcement of the General the electroral registration officers any Election. After the date of the poJl, defects therein. such complaints were received mainly from metrapolitan cities Jike, Delhi t Splitting of the Posts and Telegrapb. llombay, Bangalorc, ctc. The Chief Department Electolal Officers have been requosted to loole into specific complaints of 105. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will alleged omission of names from the the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS electoral rolls particularly in metra po- be pJeased to sta tc : litan cities and make a detailed study of such omissions. It will be possible to know the reasons for (a) whether Government have the omission of names from the split the Communica tions Ministry electoral ro!ls only after the excerise into postal and telecom. units under is over a nd the Chief Elcctora I Offi- separate Boards: cers have sent their Rerorts. (b) if so, the modalities of such a split (c) The basis of. and the proce- dure adopted for. the revision,' pre- \c) whether Government have paration of the rolls is the same as taken the P and T Unions,'Associa- that outlined ip. detail by the Com- tion 'Federations into confidence before mission in Chapter II I of its First effectin~ such a split in the Depart- Annual Report-19S:l. whi:::h was pub\is- hed in April, 1984. The rolls wer'! ment : and revised 'prepar('J in 32cordance with (d) if not. the reasons thereof? the provisions \.)f the Registration (If Electors Rules, 1l}60. The programme THE MINISTER OF STATE OF for revisit)n (P:lrtiClllarly. the stages of THE ~1INISTRY OF COMMUNICA. houst! to hOll'iC enllm-:ratioo. date and TIONS (SHRI RA~{ NIWAS place of draft publication, p~nou f\tJRDHA): (a) and (b). The Ministry during which claims and objections of Communications has b.-:en constitu- could be filed and the particulars tee into two departments viz., the of pla~e where the cia ims and objec- Department of Parts and tbe D.:part- tions could be filed) was giycn the nlent of Telecommunicltions. widest possi bJe pu blici ty. Special measures were taken ensure that the (C) Yes. Sir. door to door entlmerat ion progressed in an orderly and systematic manner (d) Question doC's nC\! a risC'. and that the supervisors appointed for checking the work: of the eD- F.lBployaaeot of Women i. Estahli.. urmerators did their work regularly ments' Factories at Nilllt and properly. The rolls were revi- sed polling station 4 wise. The draft 106. SHRIMATI KISHORI rolls were published within the res- SINHA: Wilt the Minister of LA- pective polling ate.:.s and the claims BOUR be pleased to state: 63 Written Answers JAXUARY 22. 1985 Written Answers 64

(a) whether Government have AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI plan to ensure that women workers VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) and (b) are employed at night only in those Government of Madhya Pradesh have establishments where the work force is set up a Commission of Inquiry largely femaJe ; headed by a Judge of the Madhya Pradesh High Court and its terms (b) if so, whether the existing laws of reference, inler .;Ilia cover inves- regarding employmellt in factories and tigation into the events and circums- establishments are proposed to be am- tances of the accident, the adequacy ended to this end ; and of steps taken by the factory au- thorities and adequancy of safety (c) whether employers will be measures and their implementation. enjoined to provide proper transport to women employees for returning Apart from this, the CBI is in- home, particularly after dusk? vestigating the criminal case registered under Jndian Penal Code aaainst the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF plant authorties. THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a), (b) and (c). Details in this regard wi 11 be The Government has ratified the available only on completion of I.L.O. Convention No. 89 ()f 1948 the inquiry and the iovestiga- prohibiting the employment of women ti on~. at night. The various Labour Laws in India accordingly contain suitable [Translation J provisions prohi bi ti ng the employment Party-wise Candidates contested in of women at night, except where it is EJections necessary to prevent damage to, or deteriora tion in any raw rna teria I 108. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR as, for example in fish-curing or fish. YADAV: Will the Minister of LAW canning factories. The prohibition AND JU STICE be pleased to of night work for women may be state: suspended by the Government after (a) the total number of candidate~ consultation with the employers' and in the field in the 1984 Lok Sabha eJec- workers' organisation concerned, when tions ; emergency demand it. (b) the break.up of the candi- Non-Use of Safety Equipment in Union dates of political parties among Carbide Factor~', Bhopal them:

107. SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will (c) party-wise break-up of the the Minister of CHEMICALS AND candidates whose security deposits have FERTILIZERS be pleased to sta te : been forfeited; and (a) whether enquires into the re- (d) the total expenditure incur- cent leakage of toxic gas from the red by Government on the election Union Carbide factory in Bhopa I and the revenue earned from the have revealed that the disaster could be forfeiture of the security deposits? averted only by using an empty safety tank provided. for use in case the THE MINISTER OF LA\V AND pressure of the gas rises above the JUSTICE (SHRI A.K. SEN): (a) specified limit ; and and (b). 5302 candidates were in the field in the 1984 Lok Sabha elections. (b) is so, whether respon~ibility A sta tcment showing the number of for not using the sa fety equipment cand ida tfS sponsored by the political provided and limitinbuilt in the panies as well as independent candi- factory has been fixed; j f so, the detai Is dates is attached. in this regard ? (c) and (d). The necessary informa- THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS tion is being collected and ~wilJ be AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY laid on the Table of the House. 65 Wrillen Anlll!e~, Written AnNen 66

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Name aDd Abbre.taUoDs of Political Partie, s. No. and Name of Political Party Abbreviation Remarks

1 2 3

National Parties

l. Bbaratiya lana ta Party BJP

2. Communist Party of India CPt

3. Communist Party of India (M) CPM

4. Indian Nationa) CODI~ss INC ,. Indian Conares. (Social,ist) ICS 6. Janata Party JNP

7. Lok Dal LKD

State Parties State in Which Recoga I.ed

1. All India Ann .. Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam AIDMK Tamil Nadu and Pondicberry

2. All India Forward Bloc FBL West Bengal

3. All India Muslim League IML Kerala

4. All Parties Hi II Leaders' AHL Megbalaya Conference .

5. Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam DMK Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry 6. Indian CODlress (J) Ie] Haryana

7. Jammu and Kashmir National JKN Jammu and Kashmir Conference

8. Jammu and Kashmir Peoples JKP Jammu and Kashmir Conference

9. Kerala Congress KEC Kerala

10. Kerala Congress (J) KCJ Xerala

11. Kuki National Assembly KNA Manipur

12. Maharashtrawadi Cumantak MAO, Goa, ·Damali and Diu

13. Manipur Peoples Party / MPP . - Manipur J4. MusJim Lea,ue MOL Iter•• 1 2 3

15. Naga National Democratic NND Nagaland Party of India

16. Peasants' and Workers PWP Maharashtra Party of India.

17. PeopJe·s Con ference PPC Mizoram

IS. PeopJe·s Party of Arunachal PPA Arunachal Pradesh Pradesh

19. Plains Tribals Council of PTC Assam Assam

20. Public Demands Implementa- PDC Megha)aya tion Convention

21. Revolutionary Socialist RSP KeraJa and West BengaJ Party

22. Shiromani Akali Oal SAD Punjab 23. Sikkim Congress (R) SCR Sikkim

24. Sikkim Prajatantra Congress SPC Sikkim

25. Tripura Upajati Juba Sami ti TUS Tripura

26. Hill State People's Democratic HPD Meghalaya Party

27' Telugu Desam TDP Andhra Pradesh

Registered Parties

1. Backward aDd Depressed BDP Tamil Nadti People '5 Protectio n Front

2. Doordarshi Party DDP Gujarat and

3. Gandhi Kamaraj National GKC Tamil Nadu Congress

4. Jharkhand Party JKD Orissa

S. Jharkhand Mukti Morcha JMM Bihar

,. Nala National Party NNP Nagaland

7. National Democratic Party NDP Kerala (Kerala)

I. llepubUcan Party of India kPi Meahalaya JANUARY 22. 1~8S

1 2 3 4

,. Republican Party of India RPK Maharashtra (Kbobragade)

10. Socialist Unity Centre of sue West Bengal India

11. Tamil Nadu Congress (K) TNC Tamil Nadu

12. Tripura State Congress for TCD Tripura Democracy

13. Jammu and Kashmir ParJthers IPP Jammu and Kashmir Party

Reopening of Bihar Cotton Mills Ltd., Patna Telephone Exchange Phuhvari Sharif 110. SHRI VIJA Y KUMAR Y ADAV: Will the Minister of 109. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to YADAV; WiH the Minister of state: LABOUR be pJeased to state ;

(a) whether the main exchange (a) whether due to closure of of Patna Telephones has become very Bihar Cotton Mills Ltd, Pbulwari old and as a result the position of Sharif, near Patna, since July, 1982, telephones is very poor ; hundreds of workers of the mill 4re starving; (b) if so, the reasons for deJay (b) if so, whether Government in replacing this exchange by a new one; and . have taken any action to get this mill reoponed ; and (C) the time by which Govern- ment to this (c) if, so the outcome thereof? propose replace exchange?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE OF T. ANJIAH) : (a), (b) and (c). Accord- THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- ing to the information received from the TIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS Ministry of Commerce, Department of MIRDHA) : (a) Only part of the Textiles. MIs. Bihar Cotton Mills exchange, Le., 3000 lines out of 6000 Ltd., Phulwari Sharif, is closed with lines of main excbange at Patna is old effect from 20.7.1982 affecting about and has outlived it. normal life. But 7S0 workers. Government of Bihar it is true that the overall condition have got a status report prepared of the exchange is poor. havins been by the Bihar Industrial and Technical affected by flood. Consultancy organisation, according to which the Unit in its present (b) It has been decided to replace size does not appear to be viable. t~e entire exchange by imported 10,000 Since tbe management has offered hoes electronic di,ita) exchanae. Since to. hand over the Unit to a Workers' the import is linked UD with Cltablith- Cooperative SociefY the State Govt. meat of second eJectorooic .witchinB have been advised to explore its possi. factory, the replacement -'is de. bility_ layed ; " Written A.nswers MAGHA ':, 1906 (SAKA) Written An.slJ·t:'s 78

(c) The exchange is likely to be (d) Subject to the availability of replaced by the middle of the 7th transmission and switching equipment Plan. all the remaining district headquar- ters are likely to be linked l [En!lisn) with Jaipur by STD progressively during the 7th PJan Period. Introduction of STD Facility Between Jaipur and District Headquarter. in Implementation of Minimum Wages Rajasthan Act by States

Ill. SHRI MOOL CHAND 112. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : DAGA: Will the Minister of COM- Will the Minister of LABOUR be MUNICATIONS be pleased to pleased to state ; state ; (a) whether the prOVISIons of the (a) when his Ministry took a Minimum Wages Act and the rulings of decision to introduce STD facility bet- the Supreme Court emphasising that ween Jaipur and the disrict headquarters payment of wages to the workers less in Rajasthan ; than the minimum wages so fixed by Government wouJd be treated as forced (b) the number of District head- Jabour, are being implemented in eacb quarters linked with Jaipur by STD State in the country; and the 'number of those not linked so far; (b) whether some instances of viola- tion of the Act have been brought to (c) the renson for not linking the the notice of the Union Government, remaining district headquarters; if SO, State-wise details thereof during and the last two years; and

(d) the time by which these dis. (c) whether Union Government have trict headquaters would be linked with issued directions to States to foHow the Jaipur by STD ? provisions of the Minimum Wages Act?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATJONS THE MINISTRY OF LABOUll (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a). (b) and (c). (a) Provision of STD facilities Under the provisions of the Minimum between District headquarters and res- Wages Act, the State Governments are pective State capita I, was approved responsible for fixation/revision and during Sth Plan period which includes enforcement of minimum wages in the linking Jaipur by STD with District employments included by them in the headquarters in Rajasthan. Schedule. Accordingly, copies of judge- ment given by the Supreme Court in Writ Petition No. 8143 of 1981, People's (b) Out of 27 district headquarters Union for Democratic Rights and 5 have been linked by STD with Jaipur. others V.I. Union of India & Others Jaipur is also a District Head- were forwarded to the State Govern- Quarters of Jaipur District. The re- ments and Union Territories Adminis- maining 21 districts are yet to be lin- trations for compli~ncet According to ked by STD. tDformation received, State Govern- ments/Union Territories Administrations (<:) The service could Dot be have made various arranaements to provided due to limited availability of enforce the minimum wages fixed. transmission and switchioa equipmeot Implementation of the Minimum Waaes in tbe country. ' Act is being reviewed by the Ministry '9 Written Answers JANUARY 22, 1985 Wrillen AntSwer, 80 of Labour in ·Labour Ministers' ·Confe- (b) whether such valves are also renee, Minimum Wages Central manufactured indigenously; and Advisory Board, Minimum Wages Advisory Board and meetings of Labour Secretaries of State Governments. The (c) if not, whether there are any implementation of minimum wages, proposaJs for manufacturing the same especially in the field of agriculture, is indigenously to save foreign exchange? being reviewed peridically at Inter- Departm<:ntal meetings. As a result of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF these reviews, undertaken from time to THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM time, State Governments are advised (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE regarding strengthening of enforcement SHARMA) : (a) For the year 1983-84 machinery, periodic revision of minimum no import of LPG cylinder va1ycs was wages, constitution of tripartite commi- made. For the year 1984-85, 14 lakhs ttees at various levels to oversee the valves are being imported from Denmark. implementation of the Act, for nece- The amount of foreign exchange invol- ssary publicity of wages fixed, inclusion ved is D.KR.22,713,889.86 equivalent of various employmen~s in the Schedule to Rs. 2,45,82,130.00. for the purpose of fixing and revising mJnlmum wages, intensification of (b) No, Sir. Similar type of self- workers' education programe in rural closing type valves of different internal areas to create awareness among agri- design are being manufactured indi- culture workers about their rights in genously, regard to minimum wages, promotion of attempt's to organise workers in rural areas and to devote special attention (c) Import was organised to meet towards enforcement of prescribed wages the shortfall in indigenous availability in respect of agriculture workers in and a 150 to obta in technology on valves vulnerable areas where there W:lS a to be made available to indigenous concentration of SC/ST agricultural manufacturers for standardisation of labourers or which were low-wage design and improvement in quality. pockets, Senior Officials of the Ministry of Labour have also been visiting Production and Import of Petrolfum various States to review the implemen- tation of the Minimum Wages Act. 114. SHRI D.L. BAITHA : Will the So far 14 States have been covered by Minister of PETROLEUM be pleased to such visits. Besides, the Labour Bureau, Jay a statement showing:- under the Ministry, is also conducting special surveys regarding the enforce- (a) the total quantity of Petroleum ment of the provisions of the Act in , liquid and gas avai lable indjgenousJy the agriculture sector. All instances of from various places i~dicating the violation brought to the notice of the quantity place-wise. the total Central Government are referred to the requirement of the country, and quantity respective State Governments for being imported (country-wise) with appropriate action. amount involved; Production and import of LPG Cylinder Vahes (b) whether there is any programme/ 113. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: plan to meet the entire needs of the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be country indigenously; and pleased to state: (~) if so, the details thereof? (a) the details of the imports 01 LPG cylinder valves for tbe years 1983-84 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF and 1984-85 showing the 0) number of THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM valves; (ii) name of the countries from (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA); which imported; and (iii) the amount of (a) to (C). The total crude oil prO,- foreiln exchange involved; duction and gas supplies duriDa the 81 Written Answc:rs MAGHA, 2, 1906 (SAKA) Written Answers 82 period April-December 1984 have been stantial buy-back facility for off.shore as (ollows :- oil exploration; and

Crude oil production (Million (b) if so, the details thereof? tonnes) Onshore 6.6 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM Offshore 14.5 (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA): Gas supplies (billion 2.51 (a) : No, Sir, cubic metres) (b) : Does not arise. The current production of crude oil meets about 70% of the country's requirement. [Tra"slation}

Net crude oi J imports during the first Conversion of Manual Telephone six months of the current year have Exchange In Nawada (Bihar) iate been 4.73 minion tonnes (valued at Rs. Automatic Telepbone Excban,e 1124.6 crores). It is not in public interest to indicate place-wise produc- J 16. SHRJ KUNW AR RAM: Win tion and country-wise imports. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Some of the steps for increasing crude oil production are as foHows : (a) whether a scheme for converti ng the Manual TelephC'ne Exchange in (i) upgradation of the progonos- Nawada (Bihar) into Automatic t'cated hydroCSlrbon reserves Tele-phone Exchange is proposed to be to proved geo) ogi ca 1 reserves inc1uded in the Seventh Five Year Plan; in the shartest r possible and time; (b) if ~o, the time by which it would (ii) use of enhanced oil recovery be implemented? techniques; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (iii) intensification of work-over ·MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS operations; (SHRI RAM NIWAS"MIRDHA) : (a) Yes Sir. (iv) intensification of exploration iR less precisely known (b) The Scheme would be taken up geological regions which· my for implementation in 1985-86. eventually lead to enhanced production; and [English]

(v) induction of advanced tech- Plea~s Wbpre Elections "ere nology. not held

Proposal to Engage American oil 117. SHR! CHITTA MAHATA : Firms for off-Shore oil Exploration Wi II the Minister of LAW AND JUS- TICE be pleased to state: .115. SHRI K.T. KOSALRAM : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be (a) whether the electio., for pleased to state: Eiahth Lot Sabha were Dot held in some (a) whether there is a proposal to places alongwith the rest of the COUDtry; eDlagc American oil firms with sub .. and 13 Writt,n A,,'wers JANUARY. 22, I", 84

(b) if lo,the names of the places and 1. And bra -Srikakulam" tbe reasons therefor? Pradesh Rajampet

THE MINISTER OF LAW AND 2. Tamil Nadu - Madras North. JUSTICE: (SHRI A.K. SEN) : : Yes, Sir. 3. Uttar Pradesh -Chail The poll in the Bhopal constituency (b) (i) Polling in aU the Par1iamentary and the poll countermanded in the constituencies in the States of Assam above constituencies will be held 00 and Punjab could not be beld {or tbe tbe 28th January, 1985. following reasons, namely-

Reductions fa Standards or Working In Assam, Election Commission had, Hours in fulfilment of an assurance given to the Supreme Court, initiated action to 118. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : Will undertake the revision of the electoral tbe Minister of LABOUR be pJeased to rolla which eould not be completed before the commencement of the pro- state : cess or the General Election in the rest of the country. (a) whether Government have recei- ved communications from various impor- tant institutions for reduction in exis- In Punjab~ the Commisssion was ting standards of working hours for satisfied on tbe basis of the report of workers per week; . the Chief Electoral officer, Punjab and also the State Govofnment ,regarding (b) jf so, the details thereof and the 'ben existin, law and order situatiC?D in the State, that election from the the decision taken tbereon; and Parliamentary constituencies in that State could not be held with the rest ot (c) jf no action has been taken the country. thereOUt the reasons therefor?

(ii) Pol1ing in the areas comprised THE MINISTER OF STATE OF witbin the Assembly constituencies of THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR KiDnaur t Bharmour and Labaul and (SURI T. ANJEIAH): (a) No, Sir. Spiti in the Mandi Parliamentary coDSti- tuency of the State of Himachal Pradesh (b) & (c). Do Rot arise. and polling in the Ladakh Parliamentary constituency of the State of Jammu &. Inqairy into Earlier Accident in Kashmir could not be heJd because of Uoioa Carbide Factory, Bhopal tbeir being snowbound. The poll in all tbeac constituencies has been fixed for ] 19. SHRI CHITIA MAHATA ; Wi) 2Sth May. 1985. the Minister of CHEMICALS AND (iii) The poll in the Bhopal parlia- -FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: mentary constituency in the State of Madhya Pradesh had to be postponed (8) whether an. inquiry under the due to the situation arising out of Jeaka.ce of gas in the Union Carbide ·Factories Act into the December t 1981 factory. accident in the. U nioD Carbide factory t Bhopal, was instituted in the past; and (iv) The poll in the following consti- a_ada bad to be countermanded due (b) if 10, the detail. of tbe lIndinal to the death of one of tbe cootestinl caadidatel; and tbe action takea tbercoD ? Wr;lI~n Answer., 16

THE MINISTBR OP CHEMICALS in the eyes and throats of villapta (vIde AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUS. Times oll"d,Q dated 6th Jauuary, TRY AND COMPANY AFPAIR.S 198'> ; and (SHRI VEBRENDRA PATIL): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if 10, whether the villa.,... bad earlier complained against the leatale (b) Accordin, to the information of aas jn the factory. furnished by the State GovernmeDt, tbe inquiry report was received in March, THE MINISTER OF CHBMI· 1984, The report biahlipta, inter alia CALS AND FERTILIZERS AND IN· certain inadequacies in matters like DUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS depeJoymeot of untraiDed penona I (SKRI VEERENDRA PATIL> : (a> aDeI delay in traeatment and IJOD-availabi- (b) Informacion i, being coJlected.JJd ty of Toxicologists, nelligence in will be laid on the Table OD tbe SIlbba. issuing master card and the need to ensure that there was DO habitafion witbin 200 feet of the boundary limits Gas Leakages reported fro. " ...1 ... of the factory site. Places After BIIopal Trapd,.

121. SHRI V. DESAI While the reports is under consi .. B. SHRl SHIFUDD-lN CHOWDHARY: deration of the State Government, in Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND the meanwhile. the! following actions FERTlLIZERS be pleased to state : have already been initiated by the State Government:- (a) whether a number of ,as leabaes from the chemical factories were also (i) Unjer Secr ion 304 of Indian Penal Code, a chaJJan was fjJed jn the· reported after the areat traaedy in Bhopal; court of Chief Metropolitan Meaistrate against some officers of tbe company. (b) if so, the places where such las (ii) One Doctor who is a M.D. has leakages were reported and- prevcntlv.! been appointed in the company. measures being considered in this rel:ud; and (iii) Instructions were issued to the company that the prop!r traioin. should (c) whether any directive has been be given to the technical staff who issued to such companies by Govern- work on danaerous machines and 000- ment 1 quahfide staff should not be allowed to work on these machines. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUS. (iv) The factory licence which TRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (cpired on 31.12.84 has oot been renewed. (SHR.I VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) to (c) Reports have appealed in the Villages affected by Gas Leakales Press about gas leakage in a few pJaces. The State Governments have beeJl requested to furnish tbe details in 120. SHRI B. V. DESAI: WiU the Minister of CHEMICALS AND FERTI- tbis felud. LIZERS be pleased to stale: AccordiDI to informa lion received so rar. there 'Nat some leak_ae of ps

(a) whether Government are exami- ning a proposal for an. amendment to Cd) whether his Ministry has ag- the Industrial Employment (Standing reed to prepare an approach paper on O(ders) Centra) Rules 1946 for regula- employment (sting into acccunt the risation of casual labllur; present employment si tuation, measures taken to generate jobs and a broad approach for effective utilisa tion of the (b) whether these amendments wiH country's resources in this directi on ; be introduced in consultation with and various Ministries and in the light of latest Changes aDd developments in (e) if so, the time by which the this sphere; Ministry is likely to conlpJete the ap .. proach paper on employment? (c) if so, the mai 1 changes likely to be considered for in:lusion in the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF aforesaid rules; and THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH) (a) to (e) (d) the time by which the final A decision has been taken to decision in this reg~rd is likely to be entrust to the Ministry taken? of Labour the nodaJ responsibility in emp)oyrn~nt matters The re- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF sponsibility for developing em- THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI ployment strategies in respect of T. ANJIAH): (a) to (d). The Govern- rural employment/unemployment would ment have notified the draft of rules to continue to rest with the Department amend the Industrial Employment of Rural Development and the concerned (Standing Orders) Central Rules which Ministries would be responsible for include Regularisation as one of the implementation of various employment items in item 10 B in Rule 2. The oriented programmes. The Planning decision on the proposed amendment Commission would have overall respon... will be taken in consultation with the sibility for policy in respect of em- interests concerned at the earliest. ployment and manpower. As the nodal Ministry for employment, the Ministry Approach Paper on Employment 0" Labour would, as soon as posaibJe. Generation develop an Approach Paper on Employ. ment and Manpower, and would also 123. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will collect, coJJate, analyse and publish the Minister of LABOUR be pJeased relevant data. The Minhtry would aJso to state: associate itself with monifotinl of the various. \.~pJoyment oriented pro- (8) wbhter his Miuistery being grammes of the Central and State ,8 Government:,. tQtt:Ulted with a supportive role in empJQyment aeneralion in other Stop_ae of Maaufactllre or Pesticldt. MjJ;l~trje& and Departmentl ; Baaed en Tbslc G ...· 124: PROP. P.J. KURlEN: WU(th" lb) . is so, whether servera' pro- Minister of CHBMICALS ANI) FERTl~ , poaaJa r-lad.,., to tho cooceptuaJisatioo LIZaKS be pleased to'itato: ' ! ,- Wrjtf~n Answers MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) Written Answers

(a) whether Government have deci. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ded to stop the Manufacture of pesti- THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION c ide's from high ly toxi c gases in view of the gas tragedy in Bhopal; and AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL) : (a) No, Sir. (b) the steps being taken to provide fool·proof safety measures in the facto- (b) Wayanad and part of Palghat, ries mauufacturing pesticides at present? Kozhikode, Cannanore and Malapuram

THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS districts are expected to remain un- AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY covered after implementation of the AND COMPANY' AFFAIRS (SHRI sche~es in hand. VEERENDRA PA TIL) : (a) N~, Sir. (c) Further expansion of TV (b) The Central Government have advised a 11 State Governments to under· service to uncovered areas is proposed take a thorough review of various to be taken up in th~ subsequent plans regula tions, con trol and preventive of TV Expans ion subject to allocation measures contained in the Rules and Regulations relating to hazardous of necessary resources. chemjcaJs~ manufacturing proeesses and Gap between Demand and evaluate the existing arrangements with Supply reference to the special need for enfor- of Fertilizers cement of safety, 126. PROF. P.l. KURIEN: SHRI SATYENDRA NARAIN Besides, Central Government have SINHA: also decided to set-up a sp;:cial cell to make a detailed study of the prac- WiIJ the Minister of CHEMICALS tices in vogue, in developed countries AND FERTILtZERS be pleased to for dealing with hazardous substances state : and to identify gaps in the prevailing (a) whether fertilizer producti on leg;sla'ive and institut 1ona1 arrangements is not keeping pace with the domestic in the country and suggest suitable demand; steps for strengthcni ng such arrange-

ments. (b) if so, the actual gap between demand and supply at present; and Coverage by T.V. Centres in Kerala

125. PROF, p.J. KURIEN: \Vill the (c) the steps taken to bridge this Minister of JNFORMAT10N AND gap ? BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (a) whether the existing TV trans.. AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY mission centres in Kerala are abJe to AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI cover the whole State; VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) Indigenous production of fertilizers y (b) if not, the nanles of areas still is not et Uncovered by the existing transmission adequate to meet the demand. centres; and (b) The demand and indiacnous (c) the steps being taken to proVide produttioD of feltilizers durilll 1984-8' TV COY.rap to the" areas also? and the pp ate as follows :- ifritten lnswefl JANUARY 22, i9S~ Written Answers

(Quantity in lakh tonnes) ------Nitrogenous Phosphatic Potassic Fertilizers Ferti lizers Fertilizers (N) (P) (K) ------Demand (Consumption Target) 56.60 18.60 8.80

Anticipated Production 39.00 12 50 There is no indi- genous producti- Gap between demand and on of Potash (K) production 17.60 6.10 and its entire requirements are met from imports

(b) and (c) At present, there is no (c) To the extent indigenous pro- proposal for demolition of these quar- duction falls short of the demand of ters for construction of office complex. ferti1. zers, j mports are arranged every year to br idge the gap. Government have taken up a maaSlve programme Expenses Incurred on General to set up additional fertilizer caqacity Elections which would help reduce the level of imports considerably. 128. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Wi II tht. Minister of LAW AND P&T Quarter behind Eastern Court JUSTICE be pleased to state: Janpath, New Delhi dying ,'acant

127. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR (a) the number of constituencies in Y ADAV : Will the Minister of COMM- which the general elections were held UNICATIONS be pleased to state: and the constituencies in which the general elections were not held for the Eighth Lok Sabha; and (a) whether Gov~rnment are aware that maoy P&T Quarters bahind Eastern (b) the expenses incurred in that Court, Jaopath, N.!w D~lhi are lying eJection and to be incurred in the vacant and are ina dilapidated condi- remaining constituencies? tion;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (b) if so, whether Government pro- THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND pose to utilise the space for constructing JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHAARADWAJ): a multi-storeyed office comples; and (a) Gentral Elections for the purpose (c) if so, the details thereof? of constituting the Eighth Lok Sabha were held in all the Parliamentary THE MJNISTER OF STATE OF constituencies except the followina THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNI- constituencies, nameIy:- CATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Yes, Sir. 4 type I 0) 14 Parliamentary constituencies querters which are dis;pidated are kept vacant of repairs and will be allotted in Assam and 13 Parliamentary • fter renovation. ~OD$titUCDCi'l in PunJab; 93 "~ril ten Answer, MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) W,iUen Answer.! 94

Voting Rigbt Denied to non resident (ii) Ladakh Parliamentary oonsti. Indians tuency in Jammu and Kashtni r. a few segments of 130. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Mandi Parliamentary consti- Will the Minister of LAW AND tuency in Himachal Pradesh JUSTICE be pJeased to state ; and Bhopal Parliamentary conststuency in Mad~ya Pradesh. (a) whether non-resident Indians were denied voting right during the (iii) Srikakulam and Rajampet Parliamentary constituencies general ejections to the Eighth Lolc in Andhra Pradesh, Madras Sabha; and North Parliamentary consti- tuency in Tamil Nadu and (b) if so, the reasons therefor and Chail ParHamentary consti- the number of non-resident Indians who tuency in Uttar Pradesh. were denied the voting right?

THE MINISTER OF LAW AND (b) The information is being collec- JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN) (a) & ted and will be laid on the Table of lb) Except for the categories of non- the House. resident Indians covered by section 20 of the Representation of the People Act, 1950, other non-resident Indians Revision of Elt"ctoral Rolls in Assam are not entitled to vote in the ejection to the Lok Sabha or the State Legis- 129. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : lative Assemblies. It will not therefore • WiJI the Minister of LAW AND be possible to state precise ly the number JUSTICE be pleased to state: of non-resident Indians who had not voted in the General Ejections to the Eighth Lok Sabha. (a) whether the revision of Assam eJectora J rolls has been completed; now; Telecasting of Speeches and Interviews of Late S.l\

(a) the number of low power and (b) & (c) With the completion of high power TV transmission towers the schemes in hand TV service is proposed and instaHed so far durihg expected to be available to about 70~~ Sixth Plan period. State. wise and the population of the country;n whole or names of the places where these were Parts of 339 districts including 91 instalJed: tribal districts. 8 high poer &. 6 low poor TV transmitters have been appro- ved for instalJation in the North-East (b) whether most of the hill and Region. tribal areas of the country could not get TV facilities due to difficult areas; and Further expansion of TV service to tribal and hilly areas will be taken up during the VII plan, dep.:nding on (C) if so, the schemes proposed by availability of resources. Government to provide these facilities in remote tribal areas of the country?

Statement

TV Centres as on 18.1.85-168 Nos

States/Union Territories HPT Centres LPT Centres

Dibrugarh

ASSAM Gauhati Tezpur Si\har

ANDHRA PRADESH \Varangal Kakinada Vhakapatnam Rajamuodry NelJorc 97 Written A.nswers MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) Written Anlwer, 98

Hyderabad* Nizamabad Vijayawada KurnooI Anantapur Tirupati Adoni Cuddapah Me hboobnagar Karimnagar

BIHAR Dhanbad Jamshedpur

Patna Gaya

M uzatfarpwr* Bhagalpur

Ranchi Munger Purnea

DELHI Delhi·

GUJARAT Surat Dwaraka

Ahmedabad Vadodra Pij* Bhavnagar Rajkot Navasari Bhruch Patna Hissar

HARYANA Bhiwani

KARNATAKA Banglore Dharwad Gulbarga· Mysore Mangalorc Belgaum Bellary

Devaogaro Bbadtavati Bijapur Raichur Gad., Betpri HOIpot 99 Written Answer, JANUARY 22, 1985 Writt'" Answer., 100

KE.RALA Triv8ndrum Calicut Caonanorc Palgbat Cochin

MADHYA PRADESH Jabalpur Gwalior Ratlam Indore Sagar

Jlaipur* Burhanpur

Bhopal Rewa Murwara Bilaspur

MAHARASHTRA Sholapur Nasik Kolhapur Aurangabad

Bombay· Sangli Nagpu.r Amravati

Pune- MelegaoD Akola Dhu1e Nanded

Ahmednagar I JalgaoD lalna Bbusawal Chandrapur Latur Parbani

Gondiya

MANIPUR ImpbaJ RourkeJ.

Bhubneswar Berhampur 10 1 Written An~wer$ MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) Written Answer. 102

RAJASTHAN Jaipur Jodhpur Ajmer Kota Bikaner Udaipur Alwar Ganganagar Bhilwara Khetri Jaisalmer Barmer Suratgarh

PUNJAB Amritsar* Pathankot lalandhar* Bhatinda

TAMIL NADU Tiruchirapalli Salem Kodaikanal Vellore Madras* Kumbakonam Coimbator

UITAR PRADESH Bareilly Deoria Moradabad Aligarb Jhansi Allahabad Sultanpur AgTa Rai ba rei lly

Varanasi Faizadad Gorakhpur Etawah Lucknow* Behraich Mussoorie* Shabjahanpur Kanpur* Rampur Pauri Farukhabad Samba) NainitaJ l()3 Writte1l AlISwer$ JANUAR Y 22, 1985 Written A.nswers 104

WEST BENGAL Kharagpur MaIda

Assansof Bhardhaman

Calcutta· Ba)urghat

~lurshidabad Shantinikatan Kulu

PHMACHAt KaS3tJIi Simla PRADE3H

lAf\1MU& Srinagaz Leh

KASAlVlIR Kargil Jammu

:Dr1EGHALALA Y A - Tura

Shillong

PONDICHERRY (liT) - Pondicherry

NAGAI-AND

~lIZORA!\l Aiza\\at

SIKKIM Gangtok

TRIPURA AgartaJa

ANDAMAN &NICOBAR -

lSLA.ND Port Blair

ARUN-\CHAL J tannagar PRADESH

GOA, DAMAN &; DIU Panaji 38 130

Note: .. * TV Cehtres existing in the country at the beginning of VD Plan-l8 Nos.

ArraogemeDts for Prompt Telecommu- services j n the coun try during the nication Services During Lok Sabba period of Lok Sabha;' Ejections. 1984 Election ane issued any guidelines to the Tele- communication officers at Sub Divi. 133. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR sional, Area/district and Circle levaJs WfJJ the Minister of COMMUNICAT. to ansure prompt and sa tisfactory tele- communication services; IONS be pJeased to state;

(a) ",bether P&T Department had (b) an au tline of special arranle.. made and special arran.ement to ments made during the campaign period an.ure prompt and undisturbed telecom. for the polling da tes and the declaration lOS Written Answer, MAGHA 2, U06 (SAKA) Wrltlen AnNe" J06

of results with particular reference to and 300 telephone 'hot lines' were the provision of additional telephone provided. Tele,raph offices at the connections, channels. hotlines and Headquarters of the Returning Qfficers maintenance of trunk service(an"d also were ordered to remain open for longer the detailed guidelines issued to Tele. hours whe rever necessary in orde:f to com officers; handle telegrams during this period. Public telecommunication services wero (c) whether any complaints have augmented to meet the extra traffic. been received regarding the deteriora- The sta tr was exhorted to ensure pun- tion in services and dereliction of duty ctuaJity~ due courtesy to be shown to by any Telecommunication officials; all concerned and expeditious attention and to work.

(d) if so, the break-up of the 3. A Liaison Officer was nominated complaints, Circle-wise (State-wise in in the office of each General Manager respect of multi.State Circles) indicating Telecommunications to exercise overall action taken against the concerned control on matters relating to the officials 1 elections which included provision of new telecommunication facilities, the coaxial, microwave and satellite commu- THE MINISTER OP STATE OF nication systems, their maintenance THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- and operation. A Monitoring Cell was TIONS(SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA); set up in the Headquarters of the Posts (a) Yes~ Sir. & telegraphs Board at Delhi and the performance of telephones, the trunk (b) The desired information has channels and the channels on which been summarised in the attached state- long-distance teleprinter and telephone ment which is laid on the Table of the 'bot lines' were provided, was reviewed House. every day at the headquarters. Adequate staff for trunk telephone exchanges and (C) No, Sir. telegraph offices was arranged. Election Information Service provided infor. (d) Question does not arise in view mation on phone at more than 80 large of reply to part (c). stations where there was likelihood of public demand for such a service for Statement knowing election results. Brief Outline 01 telecommunication arrangements made in connection Production of Crude Oil with the Lok Sahha Elections, 1984 134. DR. KRUPASlNDHU BHOI : Arrangements were made by tbe Will the Minister of PETROLEUM be P&T Department to meet telecommnica- pleased to state : tion requirements for the contesting candidates, political parties, and the (a) the total production of crude election machinery during the campaign in the country at present ; period, for polling dates and for declaration of results of Lolc Sabha elections held in December. 1984. TeJ~­ (b) how far it fulfills our~nccds ; phone connections for periods upto three months were arranged to be (c) the ~reps taken to increase the provided on high priority. Every effort production ; was made to meet the demands from various users to the fullest extent. (d) whether thero is any proposal to reduce the price of petrol and , 2. More than 6000 telephone con.. petroleum products for tbe benefit of nections. 130 telex! teleprinter linca poor CODSUOlCrs; aod lANt1I4Y 22, 1.,

(0) "if 10, the details thereof ? (c) tbe reasonl why th~ fUm persOnalities from rbe South were THE MINISTER OF STATE OP not pres"nt and the steps ta"ken to THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM .'ssuaae their feelings in this regard? (SBIU"NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA): (a) Ud (b). The total productio~" of THE MINISTER OF STATE OP ~ oil in tbe country during 1983-84 THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION ".. 26.02 million tonnes which was & ,1l0AD"CA"STlNG (SRRI V. N. about "" of the requirement of tbe GADGIL) : (a) .l (b) The Tenth I.ter- eOUDtry. national Film Festival or India hal proved to be a success as it ha-s fuUy (c) Some of tbe step. taken to acbived its aim of providing a comm'on iacrease tbe production are as under: platform for the cinemathograpbies of the world to project the eKelleoce of their film art; contribut"ing to the (i) uPiradation of the progonosti .. understanding and appreciation of tile cated hydrocarbon reserves to film cultures of difJet"ent D8 tions in the proved aeoJogical reserves in context of their social and cultUfaI the sbortest possible time ; ethos; and promoting friendship and cooperation amon, different people or (ii) use of enhanced oil recovery the world. techniques ;

(c) Film personalities Irom the "(iii) iiafensification of work over South were present in the Festival. oPerations to repair stick wens; Healthy Gr8wtb of CiDema

(iv) intensification of exploration 136. DR.KRUPASINDHU BHOI: j n Jess precisely known Will the Minister of INFORMATION &: gcoloaical rearons wbich may BROADCASTING be pleased to state eventually Jead to enbanced tbe steps taken or proposed te be taken production; and to promote healthy lJ'owth ,of cinema in the country to inculcate mora), (V) induction of advanced techono. cultural and national values among tbe logy ; viewers?

(d) There is no such proposal THE MINISTER OF STATE OF under consideration at present. THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRf V. N. (e) Does not arise. GADGIL) : Production of feature films in tbe Country is, by and larac, in tbe private sector. As such, there is no Teath Interaational Film Fes,jYf I Government control over tbe subject matter of films being produced by the 135. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : film Industry. However. the cen$orship Will tbe Minister of INFORMATION ,uidclines issued by the Government AND BR.OADCASTING be pleased to ensure that films which may tend to .te : eDcouraae nqative moral values .t c. are Dot certified· The Government of (a) whether tbe Tenth International India also recommends to the State Film FOI.ivaJ which .tatted ,ill New Governments tbat ,.ood film CODtaininl Delhi on 3 January, 1985 has proved a rna... o may be exempted from pay· _ tJe ." 'Iacec.1 ; ment of euterWDtneDt tax. The National Film Development Corporation and tbe Children'. Film Society. ludl. set up (b) if 10, tbc detaill tbenof ; aDd by the Oovcmmcnt Gflndi. a110 producej fioance filau containiol messapa (c) jf so, wh~tber there are pia,.. to reprdiDI moral, cultural and national furth,r improve oil out 'put from botb values. oD-.hore and off-.bore weill 1

Scarcity of lad.ae Ga. ia Orls.A THE MINISTER OF ST."" OF ~HE MINISfR.Y OF PETR.OLBq~ (SHRI NAW AL KlSHO&B 137. SHRIMATI JAYANTI sHAltMA) : (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. PATNAIK: Will the Minister of PBTR.OLEUM be pleased to Stase : T. V. Traa'lDltter at Pal", (a) whether Government are aware 139. SHRI V. S. VIJ4YAU of the Scarcity of Iudane Oa. at OHAVAN : Will the Mini.ter of .QlFO- Bbubaneswar and other places in Orissa; RMATION AND BaOADCASrDfO be p1fascd to state : (b) if 10, the reasons therefor; and (a) whether there is • pro~1 to to convert the existin. T. V. traDlDdtt. ~ (c) the steps taken to expedite the cr at Palghat into a high Power tJ'aDJ. supply of Indanee las to Bhubancswar mitter; and and other Places of Orissa ? (b) if '0, the time by which it will THE MINISTER. OF STATB OF be completed ? THE MINISTR.Y OF PETROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA); THE MINISTER. OF STATE OF (8) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION A~D BROADCASTING tsHRI V. N. (b) LPG Supplies in Orissa .uffered GADGIL):

Oil produetioD durina Current (b) if so, the Dames of the candi- Fiaaacial YeAr dates who contested the Lok Sabba poll, Sta te.wise, ~oDStitucDcy·wise; aod 138. SH·lll SATYBNDRA NARAYAN SINHA : Will the Min.ister of PETRO- (0) tbe names of tbe candidates wIao LEUM be pJeased to State: won the election wi th the Dumber of voleS, to~l votet polled. votes "ject,d (a) whether oil production durin, and the votes of other losiaa ~..... the current fioaDcial year wi II exceed 21 constitutcDCy-wise ? million tonnes ; THE MINISTER OF LA W AND (b) "both.. this is ia Clcess of the JUSTICE

(b) The required information is (c) the time by which India will be contained in the notification of the self-sufficient in oi I production? Election Commission No. O,N. 153(E), dated the 11th December, 1984, which THE MINISTER OF STATE OF has been published in the Gazette of THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM India, Extraordinary, Part II, section (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA): 3(iii), dated the 12th December, 1984. (a) The instal1ed capacity as OD 1.4.1984 is 37.80 million lonnes. (c) The notification of the Election C(,mmission No. O.N. 167 (E) contain- ing the names of the candidates who (b) Additional refining capacity to won the elections, constituency-wise an extent of 7.75 MMTPA by way of (Due oonstitution of the Lolc Sabba), expansion of the refineries at Bombay, as published in the Gazette of India, Vizag, Madras and Cochin is beini Extraordinary, Part II, section 3(iii), commissioned. dated 31st December, 1984 has already been laid on tbe Table of the House. A new 6 MMTPA capacity refinery In addition to the names included in at Karnal in Haryana has been sanctio- the said notification, the following ned and is likely to become operationa1 candidates have also been declared by the end of the Seventh Five Year ejected :- PJan.

Jammu and KaJhm;r The need for increasing refining capacity is constantly reviewed by ex- Udhampur •.. Shri Giridhari La1 pert groups for additions to capacity as Doara a nd when needed. Manipllr Inner Manipur •.. Shri N. Tombi (c) Explora ti on and development Sing)) effort is being intensified for discovery of new oiJ fields and for production of Outer Manipur ••• Shri'Meijinlung more oil so tbat the degree of self- Negalalld sllfficiency improves further. However, as exploration of oil is highly probabi- Nagaland ... Ching Wang listic in nature, it would not be possible to indicate with any certitude the period The information regarding the num- by which self-sufficiency in oil can be ber of votes, obtained by the successful attained. candidates total votes polled, votes rej~ted. etc. is beiDg collected and wi)) Lock-Outs be laid on the Table of the House. 142. SHRI NAVIN RAVANI: Will the Minister of LABOUR be pJeased to Refining Capacity on state : 141. SHRI NAVIN RAVANI : Win the Minister of PETROLEUM be (a) the number of lock-outs in the country State-wise during the pleased to state: years 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85;

(a),the present reftning ~apacity in (b) the total Dumber of persons the country at present; affected by these lock.. outs in those years; (b) the programme of Government to increase the refining capacity in the country and the steps taken in this (C) the main reasons (or these Jock .. re.peet; and outs; and 'i " I 113 Written Answers Written Answers

(d) tbe steps taken by Government and indircipline followed by dispu 1es re- to solve the problem of safeguarding the Jating to "wages and allowances', and workers ? 'personnel and retrenchment'. (d) Both the Central and Sta~' THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Governments have been taking action THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI under the Industrial Disputes Act, .1947- . T. ANJAIAH) : (a) & (b). Information to prohibit the continuance of lockouts on lockouts is maintained by calendar and direct the managements concerned' years. A Statement giving Sta te-wise to lift the lockouts after the underlying number of lockouts and number of disputes are referred for adjudication or I workers involved during 1982, 1983 and arbitration as the case may be. Under 1984 is attached. the Industrial Disputes (Amendment) Act, 1982 which has come into force, proposing or continuing a lockout dee-'" (c) A cause-wise analysis of indust- med illegal is an unfair labour practice rial disputes shows that the main rea- punishable under Section 25 (U) of the sons for lockouts have been violence Act.

Statement

Statement showing the number of lockouts and work~rs involved therein during 1982-84, State-M ise

States/Union Number of lockouts Number of workersinvoJved during Territorises

1982 1983 (P) 1984(P*) 1982 1983(P) 1984{p*)

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ----- Andhra Pradesh 113 147 47 61597 57185 33837

Assam 1 1 699 1489

Bihar 29 16 14 11604 16635 12698

Gujarat 23 19 16 11209 9728 6491

Haryana 4 14 6 761 7962 6668,

Karnataka 6 7 1 1266 1930 ISO

Kerala 30 9 6 10329 5725 916

Madhya Pradesh 1 4 2 1108 2425 2050

Maharash tra 28 29 32 11843 23607 17414 MeghaJaya 1 255

Orissa 7 9 5536 6735

Punjab 6 6 4313 1033 Rajasthan 23 21 27 ___.,_ 4404 3781.. 347S' -- , ii, ' W"".. ~""'6 JANUARY -2, J9.8~ "rlIJ_ A..'ttM" 116

1 2 5 6 7

Tamil Nadu 28 30 l' 7104 9901 11352

Uttar' Pradesh 20 11 IJ S20S 6643 2120 .

W...... J 119 138 J18 129913 112997 78506

Aadafnan a: Nieobar 1 1 33 991

Ddai 14 4 2 11888 4292 4242 Gee & Diu t D_. 1 S 1 107 255 31

Total 454 470 303 27847S 272524 181439

(p) = Provisional. (pt)=ProvisionaJ and baled on returns received in the Labour Bureau till 26.12.1984

N..B.==Tbere wer. DO lockouts in the ra.aiain. States/Union Territories durin8 1982-84.

EIIq8l.., i.to Gal Leakqe Accident adequacy of Iteps the fa Biaopal taken by factory autborities and adequacy of .a'ety 143. SHill NAVIN RA VANI : measures and tbeir implementation. SH1lIMATl OBETA MUKHERJEE : Apart from this, the CBI is jnvcsti- SHRJ ANAND SINGH: lating the criminal cale registered under the Indian Penal Code a,ainst the plut authorities. Will the Miniatu of CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleued to Details in this regard will be avail- Itate : able only on completion of tbe inquiry and tbe investiaations. (a) whether an enquiry hal been coDducted to know tbe causes of the ( rranl/al/on) Bhope.... !rqedy which occurred last IDODth; aDd Settiag up 01 TV Celltrel (b) if eo, the details 01 tbe find- iJIII , 144. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to Ita t. : TRB MINISTER. OF CHEMICALS AND PBl.TJLIZI!RS AND INDUSTRY (a) tho names of the cities in tbe AND COMPANY AFFAIItS (SHAI country where Televiaion Centret VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) and (b). _VI beea act up 10 far; and Ocw«DmeDt ot Madhya Pradeah have .. tap a COftuDiuioa or Inquiry headed '" a Judp or tile Madhya Pru.h BI.b (b) tbe names ot the ci tiel w..... Court aDd ill terma of refereDce. hiler luch contre. are propos. to be "' up • ,,.. COYV inveati.. tioa ioto "" evcata aDd tbe time by wbic:b theM would .. ... ciroaIDita.. of tM accideDt, tbe lOt up ,bar, 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF· State.ent THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V N. GADGIL): (a) There llre 168 TV S. No. Name of CeDtre Centres, at present, in the country. as per the statement attached. 1 2

1. Delhi (b) The following TV Centres are under Implementation. 2. Bombay 3. Srinaaar 1. Cutta~k 4. Amritsar 2, KurSOODI 5. Pune 3. Poosch 6. Calcutta

4. Darbhanga 7. Madras 8, Lucknow s. Bettiah 9. Mussorie 6. Korba 10. Kanpur 7. Singrauli 11. lalandhar 3. Koraput 12. pjj

9. Neyveli 13. Jaipur 14. Raipur 10. Si Jjguri 15. Gulbarga 11. Pithoragarh 16. Hyderabad 12. Car-Nicobar 17. Sambalpur 13. Ukhrul 18. Muzaf(arpur

14. Dimapur 19. Bao,alor. 20. Nagpur IS. Passighat 21. Panaji 16. Tezu --...,.., Allababad 17. Jorhal 23. Ahmedabad

18. Dipbu 24. Jammu 25. Simla The centres at S. No.1 to 13 are expected to be set up durin. tbe current 26. Deoria year whereas those at SJ. No. 14 to 18 27. Suratgarb are expected to be commissioned duriol 1986. 28. Gauhati

29. Itanagar Proposals for further expaasioD of TV network durin. the VII Plan period 30. Gaoatok are under cODsideration of tbe Govern- JQeQt, 3J. SbillODI ·f l ,', I" WrItten Annv~rs JANUAR.Y·22~ Its~ Wrillen Answers 120

I :z 1 2 66. AkoIa 32. Kohima 67. Patbankot 33. ImpbaJ 68. Rae-Bareilly 34. A izwal 69. Sultanpur 35. Agartala 70. MangaJore 36. MaIda 71. Hissar 37. Patna 72. Devanagere 38. Bhubaneshwar 73. Nizamabad 39. Port-Blair 40. Kakinada 74. Bhadravati 75. BareiIJy 41. Trivandrum 76. Vellore 42. Indore 77. Munger 43. Bhopal 78. Surat 44. Gwalior 79. Salem 45. Asansol 80. Agra 46. Vijayawada 81. Nasik 47. Bhatjnda 82. Warangal 48. Ganganagar 83. Ku)u 49. Jodhpur 84. Kharagpur SO. Calicut 85. Jhansi 51. Cochin 86. Rajamundary 52. JabaJpur 87. Kurnool 53. Tirupati 88. Bilaspur 54. Vadodra 89. Bardhaman 55. Udaipur 90, Bikaner 56. Kota 91. Kolhapur 57. TiruchirapaJli 92. Pondicherry 58. Nel10re 93. Nainital 59. Cuddapah 94. Gorakhpur 60. Shahjahanpur 95. Bhavnagar 61. Gaya 96. Kodaikanal 62. Karimnagar 97. Berhampur ()3. Alwar 9&. Patan 64. Vishakh4patnam 99. Anantapur

65 Khetri 100. Bhilwara J21 W,ltt,n Answ", MAGHA ~ 1906 ($.4£4) Written J4",wer, 122

1 2 1 2

101. Dhanbad 134. Chandrapur 102. Ahmednasar. 135. Naoded 103. Ajmer 136, Xumbakouam 104. Adoni 137. JalpoD 105. Bijapur 131. Tura 106. Jalna 139. Bhiwani 107. Jamshedpur 140. Rancbi 108. Varanasi 141. Navuari 109. Aurangabad 142. Dharwad 110. Bharuch 143. A Jig.rh 111. Purnia 144. Rewa 112. Rajkot 145. Mysore 113. Ram pur 146. Ratlam 114. DhuJe 147. Kasauli 115. Tezpur 148. Cannanore 116. Bellary 149. Gondiya 117. Sagar 150. Murwara 118. Farukhabad lSI. Moradabad 119. Karail 152. Belpun

120. Leh 153. Pauri

]21. Latur 154. Burbanpur 122. Coimbatore 15S. Banner 123. Amravati 156. Hospet 124. Dibrugarh 157. Behraich 125. Gadag-Betagari 158. SaD8li 126. Faizabad 159. Shan tiDitetaD 127. Sholapur 160. Malepon 128. Raichur 161. Rourkcla 129. Jaisalmer 162. Sambhal 130. Parbhani 163. Bhusawal 131. Be1urabat 164. Bbaplpur 132. Etawab 16S. Munhidabad 133. Mehboobnaaar 166. Palahat W,ittlll AIt8We's 124

1 2 THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI 167. Silchar VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) At present 168. Dwarka there is no other unit in India bavin, any storage system for Metbyl Isocya. nate, as in case of Bhopal unit of Mis. Almon Rattm Station Union Carbide of India Limited. 145. SHRI HA'RfSH RAWAT: Will the Minister of INFORMATION (b) The State authorities registered AND BROADCASTING be pleased to a criminal C~ se under the Indian Penal state : Code & Factories Act against the plant authorities. The case was subsequently transferred to the Central Bureau of (a) the time by which the work of Jnvestigations who have seized all re- Almora Radio Station is likely to be cords and documents and are actively completed; and pursuing the investigations. The Dist- rict Magistrate, Bhopal had already (b) the action proposed to be taken passed orders under Section 144 of by Government to ensure that pro- Crimina) Procedure Code to restrain grammes are produced in 'this station carrying out further ·production ope- itself and the same are broadcast there- rations. The Inspectorate of Factories from? of the State has also not renewed the factory licence of the factory beyond THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 31st December, 1984 and the factory is THE MI~ISTRY OF INFORMATION at present cJo~ed. AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) ; (a) By the end of March, Setting up of a bench of A! Jahabad 1985. High Court in Western U.P.

(b) This wilJ be a fuJBedged radio 147. SHRJ HARISH RAWAT: station, originating its own programmes. WiII the Minister of LA\V AND In addition, the station wi)) reJay JUSTICE b~' pleased to state: Regional News, AssembJy Review a'nd tOl)ical programmes from Lucknow and the Central News bulletins and National (a) the time by which the Commis. programmes from Delhi. sion appointed to examine the proposaJ for setting a up bench of the Allahabad High Court for the western districts of Safety Measures in Units Like Union Uttar Pradesh is likeJy to give its re- Carbide ports;

146. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: (b) whether the term of this Commi· Will the Minister of CHEMICALS ssion is being extended time and again AND FERilLIZERS be pleased to by Government~ Itate : ( c) whether Government propose to (a) the number of units like Union fix a final date for the submission of Carbide. Bhopal in other parts of the report by the Commission; and country and the detajJs of safelY measures beiDg adopted by them; and (d) if not. the reasons therefor '?

(b) the details or the :letion beiDa THE MINISTER OF LAW AND takeD _,ainst tbe people responsible for JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN): (8) tbe tr8Sedy tbat occurred in Bhopal? at (d). There was a demand , . M A.GHA 2, 1906 (SAkA) lrritttn Anstf~rs 126 for tho setting up of a bench of th e anco with certain lu~~JiI;l~S' cka,,~ up Allahabad High Court for the Western after co~ultatiOD wit~ tho ~f districts of Uttar Pradesh. The Jaswaot Justice of India. A copy of the ~ Siogh Commission was set up on 4th is placed on the table of the HOUle. September, 1981 to consider all aspects Placed in Library SeQ No. LT-171/8S] arising out of the demand, and the Few initial appointments of puisn~ Commission was to submit its report Judges, have also been made from out- within six months. Tho Commission side. Transfers of puisne Judles, sought extensions from time to time to as such, have Dot been made. enable it to submit the report. In the meantime. demands were made for Cooking Gas Leakage DetectioD Deriee establishment of permanant benches of the Higb Court of Oauhati, Karnataka, 149. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Madhya Pradesh and Madras and the Will the Minister of PETROLBUM 1M terms of reference of the Jaswant Singh pleased to state : Commission were enlarged on 14th 1983. Commission is December, The (a) whether Government are- awat'e now required to examine and report on that a number of deaths particularly of these demands as well as to examine a II women are caused by explosion of ~ook­ aspects of tbe general question of hav- ing las cylinders in kitchens; in, benches of High Courts at places other than their principal seats and on (b) if so, the steps devised to ensure broad principles and criteria to be safety of (;ooking ias users; and followed in this regard. The Commis. sion bas to submit its report by 13th of March,1985. (c) whether Government will dire~t the refeneries to manufacture some las leakaae detection and early warnina [English] device for kitchens 1

Transfer of Judges THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI 148. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA):(a) Yes, WiJJ the Minister of LAW AND Sir, Government are aware that a JUSTICE be pleased to stale· : number of deaths in ki tchens are attrib- utable to cooking gas and; often occur (a) whether Government propose owing to disregard of safety precautions. to restrict transfer of High Court Judges; and (b) SeveraJ steps have been taken to ensure the safety of cooking gas users. (b) jf so, whether any guidelines These include change in desian of \lalv¢s in this regard have been laid down? with matchio, reaulators, addltion of chemical to live a strong stench, exten- sive Training for dehvery-men -and THE MINiSTER OF LAW AND mechanics of the distributors, educatjnl JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN): (a) & customers on safe handJing of equip- (b). The Government have acct:ptcd the ment, periodical education tbrou& pr"" recommendation of the Law Commission ic\evision. an.d tadi() on \.s~ent\.\ that there should be a Convention satet, whereby one-third of Judges in each precautions to be taken while usina LPG High Court should be from outside the (c) There is no such prop~l. State. Tnis decision can be imple~ented Cut ia Plan Outlay for Co..... i- by making initial afJPointments from catio•• outside as well as by effecti 01 transfers. A be.inning has been made by imple- ISO. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: meatina a Policy of having Chief Justices Will the Minister of COMMUNICATI- of Kilb C.)urts fr J n outsid: in accord- ONS be pleased to state: Written AnsK'ers

(a) whether the !lext yearts financial outlay is still awaited from the Planning plaD outlay fer ~ommuDicatioDS has Commission. beeD cut down;

(b) Does not arise at this stage. (b) if 10. the reasons there or and the fiaures of outlay for each year of the current Plan; (C) The information regarding the financial outlay and performance consi .. (C) the performance in this are a sting of the Plan outlay proposed,the out cluriDa the Sixth Plan; and lay approved by the Planning CommissioD- and the actual outlay for the different (d) tbe steps taken to ensure that years of the sixth plan, for the Posta I the same does Dot su1f'er? and Telecom. Wings and the Ministry of Communications are furnished. in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ~/Q'ltItnl (a), (b) & (c) attached. THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- TIONS (SHR.I RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The Annual Plan Prop- (d) Several discussions a t various osals (or 85-86 for communications have level have been heJd and a number of been submitted to the Planning Comm- explanatory notes sent to the Planning ission projected a total outlay of Rs. CommisioD wi lb the objective of secur- 2252.61 crotes. The Final approved ing adequate allocations.

Statemeat

(a) SIXTH FIVE YEAR PLAN (1980-85) FINANCIAL OUTLAYS

(Telecommunica tions)

(Rs. in crores)

Year Amount pro- AmouDt approved Actual Expen posed in in Annual Plan diture Annual Plan -- 1980-81 4~2.03 403.31 268 .. 22

1981-82 452.00 452 .. 00 464--46

1982-83 620-94 477-00 554-25

1'83-84 620-40 64S-00 672.71

1984-1~ 1126-42 735-50 '69-50 (ApproVed)

Total 3211·79 2710-81 2729.14 ,, . ~ , 129 Writ/en Answf!rs MAGIIA 2, j 906 (SAKA) Written Answers

(b) SIXTH FIVE YEAR PLAN (1980.85) FINANCIAL OUTLY , (Postal Wing)

Year Projected Approved by Actual by PostaJ Planning Expenditure Department Commission

1980.81 16 18 11.91 19.46

1981-82 35.55 22.00 21.59

1982-83 37.60 29.00 28.67

1983-84 60.96 36.00 30.93

1984-85 67.65 36.00 36.00 (Antic; pa ted)

Total: 217.94 134.91 143.65

(c) YEARWISE PLAN OUTLAY FOR, THE 6th FIVE YEAR PLAN In rcsp~ct of Ministry of Communications. (Rs. in crores)

Year Amount as Amount as Actual proposed approved Expendj ture by the Ministry by the Plann!ng Commission

1980-81 44.67 41.71 35.90

1981-82- 48.68 44.00 35.09

1982·83 82.23 51.84 41.89

1983·84 105.51 79.00 45.72

1984-85 140.91 75.50 98.63 (Anticipated)

Total: 421.00 192.05 158.13

TIONS be pleased to state: Automatisation of Telephone Exchanges (a) whether it is a fact that the at Jeypore, Koraput and Rayagada in autornatisation of telephone t;xchanaes Koraput District of Orissa at Jeypore. Koraput and Rayagada in Koraput district of Orissa was being lSI. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : delayed due to non .. construction of Will the Minister of COMMUNICA.. buildioas for the same thoqh fUDdl , ' i3i "',lllell A,uwer, lANUAR Y 22, 19~5 Written ~Rswe", for the buildinp have already been tribal areas like Keraput District of provided by the concerned authority; Orissa to identify the places for open- and iDa of the Diseal-cum-Petrol outlo ts, Kerosene depots and L.P.G. supply cen- (b) jf so, the steps taken by bis tres ; Ministry and the concerned autbori ty for completion of the construction of (b) if so, the names of the places builidings and replacement of manual identified and given licences so far ; exchanges with auto.exchanges so far?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) the names of places reserved THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNI- for Scheduled Tribe and Scheduled -CATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS Cas te persons ; and MIRDHA) : (a) Automatisation of Jey- (d) the time by which the identi- pore has been delayed for want of fied places will be notifbd for licences building while that of koraput and giving priority to the Scheduled Tribe Rayagada bas been delayed for want of and Scheduled Caste persons ? Cfjuipment as well as buildings.

(b) Steps taken by the Department THE MINISTER OF STATE OF are as follows :- THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA) : Jeypore : -Telephone Exchange building is under con- (a) Survey have been conducted by struction. Automati- the oil industry for Orissa to identifiy sation is programmed locations, including locations in the for 1985-86. tribal areas, for openio8 of dealer- Koraput :-BuiJdin& estimate is ships. under sanction. Auto- matisation is pro- grammed for 1985-86. (b) and (C) the locations identi .. fied, including locations reserved for Rayagada:-Construction due to members of the Scheduled Castes and start in 1985-86.. The Scheduled Tribes, for opening of de- automatisation pro- Iranune is for 1986-81. lealerships under the 1984·85 Marketing Plans are given in the enclosed Sane, ~of Tribal Areas for Openiog statement. Dlnel-Ca...... Petrol Oatlets, KeroseDe Depots ADd L.P.G. Suppl, Centres (d) Advertisements inviting applica- 152. SHRI GIRIDHAR 00· tions in respect of some of the locations MANGO: liven in the enclosed statement have been issued. The realDlnl location' Will tbe Minister 01 PI!TItOLBUM be pleased to state : will be advertised in the next few months. (a) whether his Ministry has asked lite COD_aod audlori ties to survey tbe 133 W,ltten A1I.twers MAGDA 2, 1906 (SAKA)

Stat.. ellt

S.No. Name of Location District Caterory

1 2 3 4 ( A) LPG Distributo,ships 1. Rourkela Sundergarh UG

2. Kulad DhenkanaJ PH

3. Bhubaneshwar Bhubaneshwar Open

4. Rajgangpur Sundergarh Open

5. Titla&arh Bolangir SC

6. Cuttack Cuttack UG

7. Rourkela Sundargarh PH

8. Birmi trapur Sundergarh ST

(B) Retail outlet Dealerships

1. Rajamunda On NH .. 23 Sundergarh ST

2. Cuttack Ring Road Cuttack UG/UEG

3. Maneswar on NH-4~ ScimbaJpur Open

4. Sambalpur 00 NH-6 Sambalapur PH

5. Duoguripalli on SH.2 Bolangir Open

6. Kuakhia Cuttack SC

7. Kulad on NH-42 DhenkanaJ UG/UEG

B. Fatnagarh BoJangir PH

9. Similiguda/Sunebeda on NH-43 Koraput ST

10. Keonjhar NH/SH.6 Keonjbar ST 11. Hindol Road on NH·42 Dhenkanal SC

12. Dharamgarh Kalahandi SC

13. Birmaharajpur Bolanlir ST ]4. OirisoJa Ganjam Open

1S, NiI,hi Balasore FF ISS Writtell AIIsw~rs JANUAR Y 21, 1985 Written Allswers 1.36

(C) SKO/LOG Dealerships

1. DaspaUa Puri Open 2. Koraput Koraput UG 3. Biridi Cuttack ST 4. Mahanga Cuttack UG 5. Dharamgarh K a lahandi SC 6. Rajkanika Cuttack SC

SC= Scheduled Caste ST::_:: Scheduled Tribe UG/UEG ~~ Unemployed Graduate/Unemployed Engg. Graduate.

FF =: Freedmom Figther. PH = Physically Handicapped.

Setting op of TV Transmission Tower at (c) Provision of TV service to Koraput people engaged in important National Projects bas been accorded priori t,i". 153. SHRI GIRIDHAR GO- MANGO: Will the Minister of IN- (d) By ~1arch, 1985. FORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Let ter of Intent for Setting up a Nylon-6 Filament Yarn Project (a) whether Government had de- cided for installa tion of a Low Power 154. SHRI AMARSINH RATHA- T.V. Transmission Tower at Koraput in W A: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Orissa before the end of October. be pleased to state; 1984 ;

(a) whether the Gujara t Industrial (b) if so, the reasons for non-im- Investment Corporation was granted a plementation of the proposal so far by letter of intent to set up a Nylon-6 his Ministry ; Filament Yarn Project;

(c) tbe cri t~ria adopte d by his (b) jf so. when this letter of jntent Ministry for selection of the place like was issued ~ Koraput ; and (c) the reasons for not clearing the (d) the time by which Transmission project up till now ; and Tower will be installed at Koraput ? (d) the time by which it will be THE MINISTER OF STATE OF C'leared ? THE MIN(STRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF GADGIL): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA): (b) The transmitter at Koraput (a) and (b). Yes. Sir. A letter of would be available after High Power intent dated 8th April 1983, was Transmitters have been commissioned issued to MIs. Gujarat Industrial at places where Low Power Transmit- 1nvestment Corporation Ltd. for esta- 'ters arc t\t pr~c;~nt deployed. blishment of a new un(iertakingiQ 137 Written Answers MAGHA 2" 1906 (SAKA) Written Answerl

Gujara t for manufacture of Nylon Fila- (a) the details or tbe aas-based ment Yarn. fertilizer plants functioning in India and their annuaJ production; (c) and (d) Approvals for import of technology and equipment have been (b) whether there is any proposa! accorded. to set up more such plants in the country during the Seventh Five Year Plan; and Scarcity of Insecticides Manuractured by U nioD Carbide (C) if so, 'he sites selected and the production capacity or these plants '1 155. SHRI MOHANLAL PATEL: SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY Will the Minister of CHEMICALS AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) The re- state: quisi te detai Is of gas-based fertilizer plants in operation are given below :- (a) the names of the insecticides which were being manufactured in the Name of tbe Production (In -thou- Union Carbide Factory located at Plant sand tonnes of Ni- Bhopal; trogen) 1983-84 J 984-85 (b) whether there is a scarcity of such insecticides in the country due (Actual) (Anticipated) to the closure of the factory; and Namrup.I 20.4 22 (c) if so the steps being taken to (Assam) manufacture such items in other units to meet the demand of such insec- Namrup-II 61.3 67 ticides ? (Assam)

THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS Trombay 84.4 87 AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY (Mabarashtra) AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SARI VEERENDRA PATIL) : (a) Carbaryl Trombay-V 140.1 128 Aldicarb and BPMC ' (Maharashtra)

(b) and (c) In view of the fact Kalol (Gujarat) )57.0 182 that Carbaryl is also manufactured by one other company and substitute pe- Baroda plant is based partly on sticides are available in respect of these naphtha. It is. however, difficult to products, no scarcity is expected due segregate and indicate precisely. the to closure of the Union Carbide factory. figures of production based separately on gas and naphtha.

(b) Yes, Sir. Setting up of Fertilizer Plants in the SClentb Plan (c) In addition to four las-baaed 156. SHRI MOHANLAL PATEL: fertilizer plants. two each at Thai Wi)) the Minister of CHEMICALS (Maharashtra) and Hazira (Gujarat) AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to nearing completion, it is proposed to state : set up six new aas-based fertilizer 139 Written Answer~ Wrillen Answer' 140 plants. Of these plants, one would be (a) whether the details regarding located in Guna District of Madhya the bifurcation of the P & r Depart- Pradesh, one in Sa wai Madhopur Dis- ment as per the recommendation of trict of Rajasthan and four :n Uttar the Sarin Committee have been chaJkt-d Pradesh-one each in BareiHY9 Sultan- out; pur, Badaun and Shahjahanpur Dis- tricts. Bach or these six new plants (b) a brief out line of the· new set and the four plants at ThaI and Hazira up at the national circJe and DivisionaJ would have a capacity of 1350 tonnes level, especially with regard to the per day Amonia with matching Urea joint sectors like construction works capacity. in the Civil Wing and sharing of re- sidential accommodation for the emp- Parallel Postal Services loyees ;

157. SHRI MOHANLAL PATEL: (c) the date with effect from WiU tbe Minister. of COMMUNICA- which the implementation has been TIONS be pleased to state : effected and whether any adverse effect of the proposed re-organisation has . (a) whether Government are also been reported from any quarter; aware tbat some parallel postal services are operating in the country, paTti· (d) if so. the nature thereof and cuJarJy in big 'cities ; the action taken by Government there- on ~ ~nci (b) jf so, the details thereof: (e) whether any coordination at va rious level would also be ensured (c) wbecher this ki nd of trade IS after bifurcation and the exact nature ilJegal ; and and mecha nism thereof?

(d) if so, the action proposed to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF be taken to check the operation of THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- private paraJJe} postal services in tne TIONS (SHRI RAM NISWAS country? MIRDHA): (a) Yes, Sir

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) The Ministry of Communica- THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA· tions has been constituted into two TIONS (SHRI RAM NIW AS departments vi Z., the department of MIRDHA): (a) Yes, Sir. Posts and the department of Telecom- municatIOns. The bifurcation of P and T (b) Reports about 51 such services in the field has already been done much operating in the country have been ea rlier. received. (c) 31.12.1984. None. (c) Yes, Sir. (d) Question does not arise. (d) In some cases prosecution bas (e) Yes, Sir. Tbe bifurcation be- been launched against such agencies. In· ing the HQ set up. not much of structions have been issu,ed to tighten or co.ordination prob1em is anticipated. up supervision and take deterrent action un'der the Jaw' Separate Postal and Telecom. Circles ro r 'Bifereadoa or P " T Department Himacbal Pradesh IS8. PROP, NARAIN CHAND J 59. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR.: Will the Minister of PARASHAR: Will. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to CO,..MUNICAT19NS be pleased to .tate : . state ; • .. , • to I 141 W,ittell Answers MAGHA 2, 190' (SAKA) W,jJlen Answe;. 14~

(a) whether Government decision (C) if not, the likely dates by which of bifurcating the existing N.W. these would be sanctioned and reasoDs Postal and Telecom. Circles and crea- for deJay ? ing separate CircJes for Himachal Pradesh has been implemented in view of the fact that Government had THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE agreed to this in principles as far MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS back as January, 1976 (vide reply to (SHRI RAM NIW AS MJRDHA) : (a) Lok Sabha Unstarred Question No. Exchanges at 3 stations have been 1453 dated 29th January, 1976) ; sanctioned as indicated in (b).

(b) ifso, the date with effect (b) 1. Swarghat sanctioned on from which separate Circles have been 13.12.84 crea ted ; and

2. Nehrian lan~tioned (c) if not, the likely date by which on 21.12.1984. separate Postal and Telecom. Cirdes would be created for Himachal 3. Bhumpal sanctioned on Pradesh? 7.1.1985. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA- (c) 1. Sanction of the el" TIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS change at Bharoli Ka- MIRDHA): (a) No, Sjr. Jan is under examir.a. tion and is likely to be (b) Does not arise. in current Fina ncial Year.

(c) No date lias yet been fixed, 2. For sanction of exchanac at Namhol the matter Small Automatic Telephone Exchanges is under discussion with in North ·Western Cire1e Power and Telecom. Coordination Committee 160. PROF. NARAI~ CHAND to get the required clea- PARASHAR : Will the J\tinister of rance, COMMUNICATIONS b~ pleased to state: Corruption In sending Indian Laboarers to Foreign Countri es (a) whether the loliowing Small Automatic telephone Exchanges in 161. S HRI CHINTAMANI lENA : North Western Telecommunication Will the Minister of LABOU R bo Circ1e have been sanction: pleased to state :

(i) BharoJj Kalan, Namhol and I (a) whether the Dumber of cases Swarghat in Bilasrur Dis .. of corruption in regard to sending of trj~t of Himachal Pr,HJ;:sh ; Indian labourers to foreign countries is increasing day by day; (jj) N.!hrian in Una District of Himachal Pradesh ; (b) if so, the number of such cases detected during the years 1983 and 1984 (iii) Bhumpal in Hamirpur Dis- and tbe number of persons arrested in trict of Himachal Pradesh; this connection ; and

(b) if so, the date~ on which each one or these has been sanctioned; (c) tbe steps taken by GOVernment and to eardicate such corruption ? .~ , I., " , t 143 Wrltte" AIISM'ets W"itte~ Anlwers 144

THE MINISTER OP STATE OF Steps to Increase Fertilizer Production THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHR.I T. ANJIAH): (a) and (b) Information is being collected from 162. SHRI CHINTAMANI various State and Union Territory JENA: Will the Minister of CH- Governments. MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pJeased to state : (c) (i) Public grievances are heard in the Ministry of Labour in Delhi, (a) the total production of fertili- since July, 1984, thrice a week by the zers in the country during the year Protector General of Emigrants at fixed 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85 ; timinas (or which neither entry pass nor prior appointment is essential. (b) the approximate demand of During 1984, 1666 complaints were fertilizers for the above mentioned heard and 1956 have been disposed of. period ;

(ii) Similar system of public hear- (c) the quantity of fertilizers im- inl has been started recently in the office ported during the above period to meet the Protector of Emigrants, Bombay the demand ; from where a large number of emigrants 10 out for work. 49 compJaints were heard on 14th, 15th and 16th Jan., 85 (d) the amount involved ; and and 38 complaints have been disposed of on the spot. (e) the steps being taken by (iii) Periodic checks are made at Government to increase the production the International Airports by the Pro- of fertilizers in the country to meet the tectors of Emigrants to detect cases of demand? iUepJ emigration. THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS (iv) The posts_ of the [protectors AND FERTILIZERS AND IN- of Emiarants at Bombay and Delhi DUSTRY AND COMPANY AFFAIRS have been upgraded to the level of un- (SHRl V.BERENDRA PATIL):

Year Quantity in lakh tonnes Nitrogen P205

1982-83 34.24 9.80 198344 34.85 10.48 1984-85 39,00 12.50 (Anticipated)

(b) Demand (Consumptjon) of fertllit.ers was as follows :-

Year Demand (CoRsumption) in lakh tonnes Nitroaen P20S Potash

J9I2-83 42.24 14.31 7.21 1983·84 52.16 17.31 7.13 (BItimatied) 1JI4.IS ".60 18.60 8.80 (TUllt) ,i. J i4S W,itten Answers Written AnlWers 146

(c) and (d):- Quantity and value of imports are given below :-

Year QUlntity of Imports Tota) value of Imports in lakh tonnes in Rs. crores Nllrogen P20S Potash (Kj

1982-83 4.25 0.63 6.44 273.53

1983-84 6.56 1.43 5.56 365.05

1984-85 13.08 4.63 6.56 818.00 (Upto December, (Approx.) 1984)

(e) In addition to substantial Allcgc1 Fertilizer Scandal in National additional fertilizer capacity already Fertilizers Limited under installation, a massive pro· gramme for setting up many new 164. SHRI AMARSINH RA. fertilizer plants has been taken on THAWA: Will the Minister of CRE- hand. These measures would help MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be augment the indigenous production of pleased to state : f\!rtiJiz-:rs substantIally and thereby re- (a) whether the Central Bureau duce the t:vel of dependence on imports of Investigation has unearthed a major to a significJnt extent. fertilizer scandal in which the Nangal (Punjab) based public sector National Gas Presen'atories in Jam~h~dpur Fertilizers Limited (NFL) has been de- frauded ; 163. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOW- DHARY: 'ViII the Minister of (b) if so, the am\>unt involved; CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be and pleased to sta te : (c) whether and arrest bas been made ; if so, the detaiJs thereof and (a) whether any representation the action taken ther~on ? dated 10 December, 1984 has been re- ceived by Government from J amshedpur Citizens Council drawing a tcenrion to THE Mf NISTER OF CHEMICALS the existence of various types of gas AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY preservatories in industrial units of AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI Jamshedpur ; and VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) There has beeD DO scandal in' National Fer- tilizers Ltd. (NFL). Presumably, tho (b) if so, the steps taken by Go- reference is about the material despatc- vernment on the representation? hed by the National Fertilizers Ltd. through the Sou th Central Railways. MIs. Murthy Fertilizer Traders, Tcnali THE MINISTER OF CHEMICALS had , laken delivery of the aforesaid AND FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRY meterial fraudulently from the Railways AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI against indemnity bond and sold it. The Railways against which the fraud was VEERENDRA PATIL): (a) and (b) committed have entrusted the case to The information is being collected and the Central Bureau of InvestiptioD. will be laid on the Table of the Waltair llanac, for inveltilalion. Sabba, 147 Written Answers JANUARY 22, 1985 148

(b) About Rs. 22 lakbs. (c) The Central Bureau of Investi- gation is still investigating the case and MR. SPEAKER: This is not the the details of the arrest etc. are not way. readily availabJe. [Translation J Construction of Houses for CPF Subscribers Me, Yadav: I am telling you 164-A. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : that no purpose will be served by cast- Will the Minister of LABOUR be ing aspersion by either of you. Ques- pleased to state: tion should be replied properly. I am of the opinion that if the government could be formed on the basis of rigging (a) whether Government have de.. of poJls, you would not have come to cided to construct houses for Central power in 1977 and slmilHrly they would Provident Fund subscribers on a volun- not hav,e come power in 1984. PIe ase tary basis during the Seventh Five Year do not say like this. People know it. Plan;

(b) if so, the number of houses and their brake up, year-wise and State- v.'jse ; and SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: How is tha t he has given such a (c) if not, the reasons therefor? reply ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (Interruptions) THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJAI AH): (a) It has been de- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN cided to finance cons truct ion of houses THE MINJSTRY OF LAW AND JUS- for the Employees' Provident Fund TICE (SHRI H.R. BHARADW AJ) : Scheme from out of their Provident I understand the Law and I know .• Fund. Illterrupt ions) (b) and (c) The details of the proposal are being worked out. {Trans/at ion]

SHRI NARA Y AN CHOUBEY: 12.00 hrs, Let him learn as to how a question is repJ:ed. ( r,Q1IsJaJ/on1

MR.. SPEAKER : Please do not do [Engl/III] 10, it will not be allowed, Making mutual r~rimations is not in good THE MINISTER OF LAW AND tastes. JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN): May I only add this? If there is one organ SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV of the Government, which has earned (Nalanda): Is it proper to make al. the admiration of the whole world, it is legations in this way '1 the Election Commission. Let us not .. subvert the election machinery . MIl. SBPA~BR.: Please listen to me.. No purpose j s served by casti 01 .speRioDS on each other i 1 this way. SHRt NARAYAN CHOUBBY: You do not subvert the election machi- SHRl NARA YAN . CHOUBEY nery? (Midnapore): We have not cast any aspersion, only be hal calt asporsjon. (Inttrrupt ion,> 149 MAGMA 2. 1906 (SAKA) 1'0

[Translation] MR. SPEAKER : It is all right,

PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: It has wulla): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have appeared in the newspapers ... given notice of an adjournment motion ... MR. SPEAKER: What appears in MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to the newspaper is not gospal truth, Do me. I wi)) reply to your question in the not take it that way. I have told you first instance. that we will discuss it. We will take it very seriously. It is a very serious (Interruptions) matter. We will take it seriously.

I am not aJlowing you. I have SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN requested you that if you listen to me, (Badagara): Sir, you are very we1l there will be no need for you to speak. aware of the serious dimensions of the problem. PROF. S..\IFUDDIN SOZ: But you may kindly listen to me also. MR. SPEAKER: I know it. That is why I said we will take it very serio- MR. SPEAKER; It is not the usly. occasion to do so, We are calling the meeting of Business Advisory Com- KUMARI MAMTA BANERJEE mittee tomorrow at 3 p.m. We have (Jadavpur): After the ejections two invited all of you in the meeting. We Congress (I,) workers have been mur- shall discuss it there in the meeting dered .,. (lnteruptivnl) to find out ways and means to raise this question. MR. SPEAKER: This is not the way to take itup. It is for the State PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: The Government. Prime Minister ha'i told that the in- formation could not be furnished. K UMARI rvlAMT A BANERJEE: They have murdered two women also ••• MR. SPEAKER: If you continue to speak like this, what is the remedy? MR. SPEAKER: Tha t is a State subject. It is not my subject.

[Engl;sh_;~ ( Interruptions) We will look in it. National DR. A. KALANIDHI (~ladras security is at stak~. I am not going (0 Central) ; I have given an adjournment take anything which goes against the interests of the State or against the motion on Sri LJnka ... nation. I am not shutting out dis- ~f R. SPEAKER: I have already cussion. That is why I have decided admitted a can attention on it. that the Business Advisory Committee will be constituted today. I am going DR. A. KALANJDHI : I bad given to call a meeting tomorrow so that we two notices ..• ** can discuss the subject in all its per.. (Interruptions) spective, where I will call the Home Minister also. MR. SPEAKER: Now, nothing goes on record. I have not allowed PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: The him. House should be taken inte> confidence. Papers to be laid on the Table.

··Not recorded t --- lS1 JANUARY 221 1985 Papers laid on the Table 152

12.05 hrs. (3) A copy of the One Hundred and Third Report (Hindi and PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE English versions) of Law Com- mission on Unfair T~rms in [English] Contract. [Placed in Library. See No. LT -41/85]. Notifications ander Representation (4) A copy of 'the one Hundred of the People Act, 1951, Delimit- and Fourth Report (Hindi and ation of council constituencies English versions) of Law (Bihar) Amendment Order, 1984, Commission on the Judicial One Hundred and Third Report and Officers' Protecti on Act, 1850. one Hundred and fourth Report of (Placed in Library. See No. Law Commission. LT-42J85].

THE MINISTER OF LAW AND Reviews on the Working of and Anona J JUSTICE (SHRI A. K. SEN) I beg Reports of Indian oll Corporation to Jay on the TabJe- Ltd., Bombay. for 1983-84, Indian Petro-Chemicals Corporation Ltd. for 1983-84, Madras Refineries Ltd. (I) A copy each of the fol1owing l\fadras for 1983-84, Bongaigon Notifications (Hindi and English versions) under sub- Refineries and Petro-Chemicals section (3) of section 169 of Ltd., Bbaligaon for 1903-84, etc. etc. the Representation of the People Act, 1951 :- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM (SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA): (i) The Conduct of Elections I beg to lay on the Table- (Amendment) Rules, 1984 published in Notification (J) A copy each of the fonowing No. S. O. 565 (E) in papers (Hindi and English Gazette of India dated versions) under sub-section (1) the 4th August, 1984. of section 6] 9A of the Com- [Placed in Library. See panies Act, 1956 :- No. LT-39/85]. (a) (i) Review by the (ii) The Conduct of Elections Government on the (Second Amendment) working of the Rules, 1984 published in Indian Oi1 Corpor- Notification No. S.O. ation Limited, Bom-

671 (E) in Gazette of bay t for the year India da ted the 5th 1983-84. September, 1984. OJ) Annual Report of (2) The Delimitation of Council tbe Indian Oil Cor- Con~tituencies (Bihar) Amend- poration Limited, ment Order, 1984 (Hi ndi and Bombay, for the English versions) published in year 1983-84 along Notification No. S.O. S66(E) wi th Audi ted Acco- in Gazette of India dated the un ts a nd the comm- 4th August, 1984, under sub- ents of the Com- section (3) of section 13 of the ptroHer and Auditor Representation of tbe People General thereon. Act. 1950. [pJaced in Library [Placed in Library. Sfe No. LT-40/85J. • See No, Lt-43/85J. I Oil the Tabl. 154

(b) (i) Review by tbe with Auditea Acco- Government OD tbe unts and tbe com- working of the Indian meDt. ot the Com. P~trochemical. Cor- ptroller and Auditor poration Limited. Genera'i thereon. for the year. 1983- [placed in Library. 84. See No. LT --46/85).

(ii) Annual Report of (e) 0) Review by the Qewr- the Indian Petro- ment on the work- chemicals Corpor- ing of the Oil India ation Limited, for Limited. Duliajan, the year 1983-84 for tbe ycar-1983-84. alonl with Audited Accounts and the (ii) Annual Report of comments of the the Oil India Limited, Comptroller and Auditor General DuliajaD, for the year 1983-84 aloo& thereon. (Plaoed in Library, with Audited Acco- unts and tbe comm- See No. L T --44/85J. ents of the Com- ptroller and ~tor (C) (i) Review by the General the,.... Goverment on tbe (plaold in Library. working of the Mad- See No. LT -47/85]. ras Refineries Limi- ted, Madras, for the year 1983-84. (f) (i) Review by tbe Government 00 tbe (ii) Annual Report of working of the tbe Madras Refiner- Hindustan Petroleum ies Limited. Madras. Corporation Limited. for the year 1983-84 Bombay. for the along with Audited year 1983-84. Accounts and the comments of the (ii) ADDual Report of tho comptroller and HiDdustan Petroleum Auditor General Corporation Limited, thereon. [placed in Bombay. . for the Library. See No. year 1983.84 aIolll LT-4S/8SJ. with Audited Acc0- unts and the comm- (d) (i) Review by the enla of the Comp- Governmen t on the troller and Auditor working cf the (JcDOl'8I thereoD. Bongaigaon Refinery lPIaccd in Ubrary. and Petrochemicals S •• No. LT--4811'). Limited; DhaJiaaon. for the year 1983-84. (a) (i) Review b, the (ii) Annual Report of GovemmeDt OD the tbe Bonpilaon wortiq of dae Refinery and Petro- Bbarat Petroleum chemicals Umitcd. Corporation Limited. DbalilaoD. for the 1omb5,. for till ,.,. ye.r 1913-84 .JODI JMJ-84. ..1..55 . !'ape,s Laid JAlfUAR. Y ll. 198.5 on the Table 156

(U) Annual Report of ODS) by the Government the Bharat Petroleum on the working of the Oil Corporation Limited, and Natural Gas Comm- Bombay. for the year ission for the year 1983.84 1983-84 along with and . of j ts subsidiary Audited Accounts Company Hydrocarbons and the comments of India Limited, New Delhi the Comptroller and for the year 1983. Auditor General [Placed in Library See ..-t; thereon. No. LT-51/85] ~ .....- (Placed in Library. See No. LT-49/84J. (3) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and Eng- (h) (i) Review by the lish versions) of the Oil Goverment ·on the Industry Development working of the Co- Board, Nl!w Delhi, for the chin Refineries year 1983·84 along Limited, Ambala- with Audited Accounts mugal~ for the year under sub-section (4) of 19f3·84. section 20 of the Oil Industry (Development) Act, 1974. (ii) Annual Report of the eochin Refiner ies (i i) A copy of the Review Limited, Ambalamu- (Hindi and English ver. gal, for the year sions) by the Government 1983·84 along with on the working of the Audited Accounts Oil Industry Development and the comments of Board, New Delhi, for the CornptroHcr and the year 1983.84. Auditor General thereon. (4) A copy of the Statement [Placed in Library, (Hindi and English versions) Se~ No. LT-50!8SJ of the objectives and obJi- gation~ of the Gas Authority (2) (i) A copy of th.: Annua 1 of India Limited, New Delhi. Report (Hindi and Eng· rPlaced in Library, See No. lish ve rsions) together LT-52j85J. with Audited Accollnts of the Oil and Natural Gas ~()tification under lndian Telegraph Commission for the year Act, 1885 and a copy of Profit 1983·84 and of it subsidi- ary compa ny Hyd rocarb- and Loss Account and BalaDce ons India Limi ted, N~w She~t of Telecommunications DeJhi, for the year 1983, Branch of P & T Deptt. for under sub-section (3) of 1982·83. section 23 read with sub- section (4) of section 22 THE MINISTER OF ~TATE IN THE of the Oil and Natural MINISTRY OF C0MMUNICATIONS Gas Commission Act, (SURI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : I beg 1959. to Jay on the Table- [Placed in Library See 0) A copy each of the following No. LT-St/85) Notifications (Hindi and Eoglish Versions) under sub- (H) A ,opy of the Revic:w $ection (5) of section 7 of the (Hindi arJd EnsJish versj· Indian Telegraph Act, 1985 :- , , I Pape,s Laid 0" the Table 15*

(i) G ,S,R. 614(E) published section (3) or section 15 of j n Gazette of India dated the Industrial E~pJoyment the 18th August, 1984 (Standing Orders) ~ct, 1946:- containing corrigendum to Hindi version of Notifi- catian No. G.S R. 307(E) (i) The Industrial Employ.. published in Gazett\! of ment (Standing Orders) India dated the 22nd May, Central (Amendment) 1984. Rules, 1984 published in Notification No. G,S.R.. 910 in Gazette of India (ii) O.S.R. 615(E) published da ted the 25 til AUlust, in Gazette of India dated 1984. the 18th August, 1984 containing Corrigendum to Notification No. G:S.R (ii) The Industrial Employ· 386 (E) published in ment (Standing Orders) Gazette of lLdia dated Central (Amendment) th~ 22nd May, 1984. Rules, 1984, published in Notification No. G.S.R. (iii) The Indian \\Tireless Tile- 910 in Gazette of India graph (Amateur Service) dated the 25th AUJust, Amendment Rules, 1984 1984. [Placed in Library. publ~shed in Noti- See No. LT-SS/85]. fication No. G.S.R. 1225 in Gazette of India (2) A copy each of the (ollowing dated the 8th December, Notifications (Hindi and 1984. [PJaccJ in LIbrary, En&lish versions) under sub- See No. LT -53/85] section (2) of section 7 of thc= Employees Provident Funds (2) A copy of the Profit and Loss and M isceI laneous Provisions Account and Balance Act, 1952 :- Sheet (on accrual basis) of the T ~k-Comm'Jni­ (i) Th~ Employees' Fami Iy cation Branch of Posts Pension (Amendment) and Telegraphs Depart- Scheme, 1984 published in ment for the )'e3 r 1982- Notification No. G.S.R. 83 (Pl.lc..:d in LIbrary. See 19 in Gazette of India No, LT-54'85]. dated the 5th January, 1985, Notifications under Ialdustrial Employ- ment (Standing Orders) Central (ii) The Employees' Provident (Amendment) Rules, 1984, Employ- Funds (Third Amendment) ee~ Provident Funds and l\lis- Scheme, 1984 published in cellaneous Provisions. Ad,19S1. Notification No. G.S R. Industrial Disputes Act. Iq47 20 in Gazette of India etc. etc. dated the 5th January, 1985. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI (iii) The Employees' Provident T. ANJIAH): 1 bel to lay on the Fund (Amendment) Table- Scheme, 19" published in Notification No. O.S.R. ,(J) A copy each of the following 954 in Gazette of India Notifications (Hindi and dated the 8th September. BDIUsh v:rsions) under lub. 1914, (iv) The Bnl,ployees' Provident year 1983·84. (placed in Funds (Second ~end­ Library. See' No. LT- ment) Scheme, ]984 59/85] fUbIished in Notification No. G .S.R. 1233 in (7) A COpy of the Annual ReJ)ort Gazette of India dated (Hindi and English versioDs) Jhe 8th December, 1984. of tbe National Labour Insti- [Placed in Library, S'6 tute. New Delhi. for the year No. LT-S6/8SJ. 1983·S4 aloD8 with Audited AccouDts. [Placed in Library (3) A copy of the Industrial Dis. See No. LT-60/SS] ·putes (Ceotral) (Amendment) R.ules, 1984 (Hindi and Bnglish versions) published in Noti- (8) (i) A copy of the Annual fication No. O.S.R. 932(£) in Report (Hindi and Eng- Qazette of India dated the 1st lish versions) of the September, 1984 under sub- Central Board for Work- section (5) of section 38 of the ers Education, Nagpur, Industrial Disputes Act , 1947. for the year 1983-84.

(4) A copy of Notification No. (ii) A copy of the Audi ted S.O. 4207 (Hiadi and English AccQunts (Hindi and versions) published in Gazette English versions) of the of India daten the 1st Decem- Central Board for Work- ber, 1984 declarinl oil industry ers Education, Nagpur, as public utility service under for the year 1983-84.;~ lub-section (3) of section 40 of [Placed in Library. OIL See the J ndustrial Disputes Act. No. LT-61/8S] 1947. [placed in Library. See No. LT-S7/85] (9)

(11) A copy of the Annual Report published in Notification No. (Hindi and EDllish versions) G.S.R. 722 (E) in Gazette of of the Employees' Provident India dated the 12th October, Pund Organisation for the 1984, under sub-section (4) of year 1983-84 on the working section 11 of the Cine-Workon of the Employees Provident Welfare Fund Act. 1981. Funds and Miscella-neous Pro- (placed in Library. See No. visions Act, 1952, the Employ- LT-67/85] ees' Provident Fund . Scheme, 1952, the Employees' Family Pension Scheme, 1971 and the (3) A copy of the Cinematograph Employees' Deposi t-Linked (Certification) (Third Ameod- Insurance Scheme, 1976. [Placed in Library See No, LT-64/85] dment) Rules, 1984 (Hindi and English versions) published in (12) A Statement (Hindi and English Notification No. G. S. R. 814 versions) regarding action taken (E) in Gazette of India dated cr proposed to be taken on Conventions and Recommenda- the 13th December, 1984, under tions adopted at the 69th Sess- sub-section (3) of section 8 or ion of the International Labour the Cinematograph Act, 1952. Conference held in June. 1983 at Geneva. [Placed in Library. [Placed in Library. See No. See No. LT-65/85J LT-68/85J

Cine-Workers and Cinema Theatre Statement showing action takeD by Workers (Regulation of Employ- the Government on various Assu- ment) Rules. 1984, Cine-Workers rance, Promises and UDdertakiags Welfare Funds Rules, 1984, Cine- given by Ministries during varioas matograph (Certification) (Third Sessions of SeTenth Lok Sabba AmendmeDt) Rules, 1984

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTA. AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. RY AFFAIRS (SHRI OHULAM NABI GADGIL) : I beg to lay on the Table:- AZAD) : I bag to lay on the Table tbe (l) A copy of the Cine-Workers following statements (Hindi and BDI- and Cinema Theatre Workers Iish versions) showing the action taken (Regulation of Employment) by the Government on various assuran- Rules, 1984 Hindi and English versions) published in Notificat- ces. promises and undertakiols aiven by ion No. O. S. R. 677 (E) in the Ministers durin! the various sessions Gazette of India dated 21st of Seventh Lok Sabha;- September, 1984, under sub- section (3) of sect jon 23 of the Cine-Workers and Cinema (1) Statement No. XX-Sixth Theatre Workers (Regulation of Employment Act, 1981. Session, 198 1[placed in Libraiy. [Placed in Library. See No. See No. LT-69J85) LT-66/8S]

(2) Statement No. XlX-Eiahth (2) A copy of the Cine.Workers Welfare Funds RuJes, 1984 Session, 1982. (Placed in Libra. (Hindi and Enalish versions) ry. See No. LT-70185) J 63 Papers Laid on Ihe Table i6t

(3) Statement No. XIV-Ninth (3) A copy each of the following Session, 1982. [placed in Libra .. Notifications (Hindi aod Eng- rye See No. LT-71/85] lish versions) under section 159 of the Customs Act , 1962:- (4) Statement No. XIV-Tenth Session, 1982. [Placed in Lib- rary, See No. LT-72/84] (i) G. S. R. 70~ (E) pu blished in Gazette of India dated (5) Statement No. XII -Eleventh the 29th September, 1984 Session, 1983. [Placed in Libra- toge ther with an explana- ry. See No. LT-73,85] tory memora ndum making certain. amendment to (6) Statement No. XIII-Twelfth NotificE4 ti on No. 224/81- Session, 1983. fPlaced in Lib- Customs dated· the Jst rary. See No. LT-74/85] October, lY81 so as to exempt Vinyl Chloride (7) Statement No. VI-Thirteenth Monomer form the basic Session, 1983. [Placed in customs duty in excess of Library. See No LT-75/85] 10 per cent Ad Valorem and from the whole of the (8) Statement No. V-Fourteenth additonal duty of customs Session~ 1983. [Placed in ]eviab]e thereon. Library. See No. LT-76/85]

(9) Statement No. I-Fifteeth (ii) G .S.R. 710 (E)and 711 (E) Session, 1984. in Lib- [placed published in Gazette of rary See No. l T-77/85] India dated the 8th Octo- ber 1984 together wi th an Wealth Tax (Third Amendment) Rules, re~ardi n£ effective ra te· of 1984. Income Tax (Fiftb Amendment) explanatory fllemorandum Rules, 1984 and Notification under basic customs duty of 25 Customs Act, 1962 Central Excise per cent Ad Valorem on Roles, 1944 etc. goods imported for the manufacture of specified THE MINISTER OF STATE IN components of fuel efficient THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRf motor cars and two wheel- JANARDHANA POOJARY): 1 bag to ed motor vehicles and to lay on the Table :- Jeuy auxiliary duty of (1) A copy of the Wealth Tax customs on these goods at (Third Amendment) Rules, 1984- the rate of 15 per Cent (Hindi and English versions) Ad Valorem. published in Notification No. S. O. 951 (E) in Gazette of (iii) G S. R. 713 (E) and 7J4 India dated the 21st December (E) published in Gazette 1984, under sub-section (4) of of India dated the 9th section 46 of the Wealth Act, October, 1984 together 1957. [placed in Library. See with an explanatory No. LT-78/85] memorandum regarding (2) A copy of the Income.tax exemption to GibbereJHc (Fifth Amendment) Itules, 1984 acid from the whole of the (Hindi and English versions) basic. auxiliary and published in Notification No. additional duties of cust. S_ O. 952 (E) in Gazette of oms leviable thereon. India dated the 2Jst December, 1984. under section 296 of the Income-tax Act, 1961.. (Placed (iv) G. S. R.. 732 (E) and 733 in Library.See No. LT-79/85J (E) published in Gazette • 16~ hper$ Laid MAGHA :, 1906 (SAKA) on the Tobie 166

of India dated the 22nd products of lOOper cent October, 1984 together export-orien ted units to with an explanatory mem- O.N·G.C. project against orardum regardi ng exem- global tenders. ption to components of heavy J medium or light (viii) G·S.R. 769 (E) to commercia I vehicles from 774 (E) published the basic customs· duty in in Gazette of India dated excess of 25 per cent the 17th November, 1984 ad valorem and auxilary together with an explan- duty of customs in excess atory memorandum ~gran­ of 20 per certod valorem. ting concessional rate of customs duty to inputs of (v) G. S.R. 736 (E) published Electronics Industry. in Gazette of India dated the 23rd October; 1984, (ix) G.S.R. 809 (E) published together with an explan- in Gazette of India dated atory memorandum mak- the 5th December, 1984 ing certain amendent to together with an explana- Notification No. 204/84- t(lfY. memorandum reduc- Customs dated the 20th ing the basic effective July 1984 so as to substit- ra te of customs duty OD ute the entry No. 9 vjz Gamma Picoline imported 'Watches, watch moveme for the manufacture of nts (including partly asss- Isonicotinic Hydrazide embled Dlovement), dials (INH) from 70 per cent to and cases for the watches' 15 per cent ad valorem. in the said noti fication. (x) G.S R. 824(E) published (vi) G. S. R. 737 (E) published in Gazette of India dated in Gazette of Indiadated the 28th December, 1984 the 23 rd October, 1984 to together with an explana- gether wi th an explana t_ tory memora ndum exten- ory nlemorandum making ding the validity of Noti- certain amendment to fication No. 21/84-Customs Notification No. 205/84- da ted the 15th February 11 Custolns dated the 20th 1984 upto 31st December, July, 1984 so as to substi- 1985. tute entry No. 1 viz 'Watches, watch moveme- (xi) G.S.R. 826(£) published nts (il>cJuding partly ass- in Gazette of India dated embled movements), dials the 28th December, 1984 ana cases for the watches toget~er with an explana- in the said notification. tory memorandum regar- ding exemption to Linear Alkyl Benzene from auxi· (vii) G,S.R. 756 (E) published liary duty of customs in in Gazette of India dated excess of 25 per cent the 7th Novrneber, 1984 ad ra/croll. to gether with an explana- tory memorandum making (xii) G.S.R. 81S(E) published certain amendment to in Gazette of India dated Notification No. 13/81· the 22nd December, 1982 Customs dated the 9th making certain amendment February, 1981 soas to to Notification No. 2183- incorporate a provision Customs dated the 1st for allowing supply of January 1983. t 67 PfJ/hN's Laid JA~T{JARY, 22. 118S on ,h" Table

(xiii) O.S.R. 827(E) and 828(E) (i) O.S.R. 726(£) published pu blished in Gazette of in Gazette of India dated India dated the 28th the 16th October, 1984 December, 1984 together together with an explana- with an explanatory memo- tory memorandum regar. randum regardjng exem. ding Notification Nos cettain specified ption to 10J/61.CE dated the 20th goods required for con- April, 1961 and 144/65·CB struction of or fitment to da ted the 4th September. sh i ps of Coa ts Guard 1965. from the whole of the basic auxiliary and additi- onal duties of customs (ii) G.S.R. 819(E) published leviable thereon. in Gazette of India dated the 22Dd December, 1984 together with an explana- (xiv) G.S.R. 4(E), published in tory memorandum making Gazette of India dated the certai n amendment to 1st January, 1984 together Notification No. 1!83/-CE with an explanatory memo- dated the 1st January randum regarding exem- 1983. ' ption to impregnating and filling compounds imported for use in the manufacture (iij) G.S.R. 821 (E) published of elcctrica 1 power cables in Gazette of India dated from basic customs duty the 16th December, 1984 in excess of 40 per cent together with an explana- ad valorem. tory memorandum exten ding the validty of Noti. (xv) G.S R. 19(£) published in fiea tion No. 24/75-CE Gazette of India dated dated (he 1st l\iarch , the I J th January. 1984 1975. together with an explanatory memorandum making cer- (i\') G.S.R. 822(E) published tain amendment to Noti- in Gazette of India dated fication No, 215/80-Cus the 26th December. J984 toms da ted the 1s t together with an explana- November, 1980 so as to tory memorandum exten- increase the rate of basic ding the validity of Noti ... customs duty on viscose Cication No. 202!81-CB stable fibre from 25 per dated the 26th December • ceot to 35 per c~nt 1981 upto 30tb JUDe, oQvalorem. 1985.

(xvi) G.S,R. 794{E) published (v) G,S.R. 833(E) published in Gazette of India dated in Gazette of India dated the 29th November, 1984 the 29th December a J 984 together with an explana- together with ao explana- tory memorandum contain· tory memorandum exten- ing corrigendum to Noti- ding the vaJidi ty of Noti- fication No. G.S. R. 63(E) fication No. 288/82-CB dated tbe 14th February, dated tbe 11th December. 1984. (Placed in library 8ee 1982 up to 30th June. No. LT·80/85) 198'. (4) A copy of the each following Notifications (Hindi and EnS- (vi) G.S.R, 838(E) published lisb versions) issued under the i D aazette or India da red Central Excise Rules. 1944: tbe 31at Dccember, 1984 18 CiJ",.",lttn (JIt'Wel/art of :. cheduled Castes together with an explana- and English versions) of tbe Committee tory memorandum exten- on the Welfare of Scheduled' Ca.te. aac:l ding the vaJidiy of Noti- Scheduled Tribes (1984-85) which \Yet•• fication No. 185/83-CE presented by the Chairman of thC dated the 2nd July, 1983 Committee to the Speaker of the Seventb up to 31st December, Lok Sabha on the 31st December, 1984. 1985. before its dissolution :- (1) Fifty·ninth Report on Action" (vii) G,S.R. 839(E) published Taken by Government on the' in Gazette of India dated recommendations contained irf the 31st Decemb\!r, 1984 their Fifryfourth Report OD the' together with an explana- Miniltry of Defence :Resrva. tory memorand um exten- tions for, and employment of ding the validity of Noti- Scheduled Castes, and Schedul- fication No. 99/84-CE ed Tribes in Defence Services. dated the 30th April. 1984 upto 30th June, 1985. (2) Sixtioth Report on Action tatea by Government on tbe recomme- (viii) G.S.R. lO(E) published in ndations contained in their Gazette of India dated Forty-eighth Report on the the 3rd January, 1984 Ministry of Industry (Depar. together with an explana- tment of Industrial Deve1opme- tory memorandum seeking nt)-Reservations for, and ' to waIve the basic, additi- employment of Scheduled onal and special excise Castes and ScheduJed Tribes iD duties on the silk fabrics. Bbarat Leather CorporaiioD ' (Placed in library. see No. Limi ted and faci Ii ties provided LT-81/85) by the Corporation for th8 economic development of (5) A copy of the Report Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. (Hindi and English versions) of the Comptro- ller and auditor General PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE of India for the year (Rajapur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, before 1983-Union Government you take up the next item, I just want (Commercial) Part 11- to ma ke a brief submission to you. MisceJ]aneous Topies of Inetrest ,under a rticJe 151 (1 ) Sir, all the Opposition parties. whicJa , of the Constitution. (placed are not aligned to the ruling party bad in library lee No. LT·82/8S) requested the Goverrment that tbey could choose some one candida. from the opposition parties not aliancd with.' the Congress (I). Since they have DOt accepted this proposal but put up an 12.06 brs AIADMK candidate for Deputy-Speat~r ship, we have absolutely no animUl., against the candidate and we have IuD COMMITTEE ON WELFARE OF respect for him--and, because our demo- SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHEDU- crate procedure about convention baa LED TRIBES been rejected, we would Bite to withdraw from the Bouse wIleD this item is tabD [Enr"alt) uP. FIIQ ·Nlatb and Siztietla 1.ctiOD t __ ' 12.07 hra Reports , " " 1 •• ' (At ,A/8 ".6- hof., Modh "...,.,.: SBealYARY~GBNEJlAL : I lay' 'OD ' -'19m, ;,.,;.... AI•• ,;n, I.",. ... fl'atdtl ....t foJlowi'lj R.eportS' (HirkU 60.,.) 171 Eleel;olt 0/ Deputy JANUAR.Y 22, 1985 Felicitations tQ Deputy 172 S~••• , Speaket

THE MINISTER OF PARLIA· MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H. K. L. the motion moved by Shri Ghulam Nabi BHAGAT): Sir I wish to place on Azad and seconded by Sbti P. Kolan. record tbat no democratic convention daiveJu to the vote of the House. Tbe has been broken. Last time a nominee question is : of the DMK was taken. No protest was taken. No protest was there. And "That Shri M. Thambi Du- tben tbere are parties, for example the rai, a Member of this party rulina in Andhra Pradesh, they House, be chosen as the have Deputy-Speaker from the never Deputy Speakers of the Opposition. The candidate proposed House. " bu a riaht to election because his party i, not part of the Government. They Those in favour may say "Aye'. are technicaJIy and de6ni tely i D the Opposition. We have given tbis post to tbe Opposition and there is notbiDa HON. MEMBERS : Aye. wrODl OD that. There is no impro- priety. MR. SPEAKER : Those against may say 'No'-J think the Ayes have it. The Ayes have it. The ~1otjon is unanimously adopt I d.

12.08 hrs. The Molion was adopted.

ELECTION OF DEPUTY SPEAKER MR. SPEAKER: I declare Shri M. Thambi Durai duly elected as the [English] Deputy Speaker of the House.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (Shri M. Thombi : Dura; was THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMEN- conducted (0 the Deruty Spea- TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULAM ke,' s scat by the A/in/ster oj NABI AZAD) : Sir, I beg to move; State in the Minislry of p~rlia­ mentary Affairs Shri Ghulam- 'IThat Shri M. Thambi ;\"ab/ Azad and P. hu/andah'e/u. Durai. a Member of this Shr; Ebrahim Su/aiman Sait and House, be chosen as the Shr; George Jv~cph Alundacka/.j Deputy Speaker of this Hou.e."

SHRI p. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobiehettipa)ayam) : Sir, I second the motion. 12.10 hrs

FEI1CIT ATIONS TO DEPUTY SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA SPEAKER (Pan) ; Sir I be, to move:

'!That Shri M. Thambi. Durai a Member of tbis House, be THE PRIME MINISTER (SHItI choseD as the Deputy Spea- RAJIY GANDHI): Mr. Speaker. Sir, ker of this House ... I would like to cooaratuJate Shri Tham. bi Durai on hi. election as Deputy SHIll GIiORGE JOSEPH MUNDA. Speaker. It reflect. tbe mood or tbe CXAL (Muvattupuzba) : Sir. I second COUDtry aDd tbe aIL' of the Lot Sabba. tMmotiOD. 1 •• lure be will bdDl diltiDetioD to I PelicJtatlons to :'Deputy S~aker 174

the Chair. he will uphold the principles in the country. The code of coactuct and traditions of this House and from framed here sets an example for tbe our side we wi II give full cooperation people and the legislatures in the "hole to lee that there is no confrontation country. We should show due re.pect to with the Opposi tion or any Ii tuation the holders of the offices of tho Speaker that milht pose problem either to you and the Deputy Speaker. But, unfol'fu- or to our Deputy Speaker. nately, there have been such iueidoDta in tb. country wherein due respect bad not been shown to the office. of the I would like to once more cODlro· Speaker and the Deputy Speaker. rather tulate him and we look forward to five disrespect was shown to their ofllces in years of cooperarion and buUdinl a an improper and wrona manner. On this better atmosphere in Par1iament with occasion, I would like to uriC in this him. House·......

[Translation} (English] SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI . (Sri nagar) : Me. Speaker, Sir, in so MR. SPEAKER No, this is Dot far as the quest ion of ejecting Shri the time to bring in that subject. Don;t Thambi Durai as Deputy Speaker of the bring that in here. House is concerned, I would like to congra tulate him. But I would also like (Interruptions )* to submi t that the offices of the Speaker and the Deputy Speaker are such tha t MR. SPEAKER: That is not the they should be ejected unanimously. It way. It is very ill.advised. No, is a matter of regret that a large number I do not feel it should go on record. of the Opposition Members have We cannot refer to that august House walked out and spoiled the solemnity of here in that manner. I do not tbink the occass\on. it is proper. Mr. Kabuli. you arc doin. injustice to that august House. I think there should have been con- sensus for the post of Deputy Speaker [ TralUla/ion_' between the ruling Congress ( I) Party and alJ the opposition groups and the motion should have been adopted unanimously. SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI That would have been truly democratic. We wcsnt a convention to b.! established In view of the fact that only one nomi- in this House that the Speaker and tk nation was received for the office of the Deputy Speaker should rise above party Deputy Speaker and there was no con- politics. Tbeir dignity and autbority testant, I think the matt;.:!" ends there, should be respected and we should Had there been any combined Oppo- endeavour to enhance their prestiae. Tbe sition candidate, we would have made leader ot the House and the leader of til. up our mind. When the name of Shri Opposition should. therefore, tate steps Thambj Durai only was proposed for to ensure tha t the dignity of our Presi. the: office of the Deputy Speaker, we had ding Officers is Dot lowered. no other course but to support him and the National Conference party has sup- Hon. Speaker and the Deputy ported him. Speaker arc custodians of the CoDititu- tion. The :ode or conduct and CODveDti- I hope he would maintain the dig- ons in our country, in PariameDt aDd in nity of this aUlust House, so that be Assemblies are framed under ,our leader- eould win the respect of the whole coun. ship for our ,uidancc. The Speaker aDd the Deputy Speaker are net elected by try. The conventions Ind the prece· any particular party. Altbouab. the HOD. , dents estabUshed here by the Speaker and tbe Deputy Speaker arc adopted by tbe eSltire country aDd .n the letitlatures *Not rocorckd. , , 175 ,lfelicitat lolU to JANU~Jt y U, 1985 176

~~~i A~ul Rashid XabuH] Will keep up th~ traditions o! ,the House . .lPeaker has been associated with the (;oDlress (I) Partyt yet after baviog boea ~Jectcd as the Speaker, we have the I congratulate YOD and wi.h you tame right on him as the ruliog party success also...... Similarly, the Deputy Speaker was CODDccted with Anna D. M. K. Party, [Tralls/alion) but DOW he is the Deputy Speaker of the entire House. I hope he will be SHRI N. B. BHANDARI impartial. (Sikkim) : I offer my hearty congratu- lations to the Deputy Speaker on behalf In the end, I once again congratul- of the people of the country and the ate him on behalf of the National CODf- regional party Sikkim Sangram Parishad. crence Party and hope that he will pro- My friends from the opposi tion benches tect our rights and conduct ~he day-to- have walked out, but it is the people day business of the House nicely. of India who voted to power the fuling party, and it is they who have elected [Eng lis,' ] him as the Deputy Speaker of tbis House. I, therefore, otTer my congra- SHRI EBRAHIM SULAIMAN tulations not only to tbe Deputy SAlT (Manjeri) : Mr. Speaker, I con- Speaker for his been having elected as gra tulate Shri Thambi Durai on my the Deputy Speaker but also to the peo- behalf and on behalf of my Party, the ple of India for the same. Indian Union Muslim League on his election as Deputy Speaker of this aug- ust House. I am very happy that the c:onventions of having Deputy Speaker SHRI OWAISI (Hyderabad): I offer my from the Opposition benches have been congratulations to tbe Deputy Speaker maintained. I hope our new Deputy on my own behalf and on behalf of my Speaker will carry forward the healthy party. I hope he will maintain the traditions of the House and also see that tradi tions of this House and conduct justices is done to all secti ons of this the business of the House properly. aUlllSt House. [English} I once again conlratulate him and wish him a successful career. SHRI FRANK ANTHONY (Nomi- nated Anglo-Indians): Mr. Speaker, SHRI GEORGE JOSEPH MUNDAC- may I say a few words? As the senior- XAL (Muvattupuzha): Mr. Speaker, I most Member, let me weJcome him. take this opportunity to congratulate Shri Thambi Durai aD his election as Deputy MR. SPEAKER; I have allowed Speaker of this august House. Me'. them. Let me speak on my behalf, Deputy Speaker, you are comiDg from now. the South, your language is T~mil. Ana especially (rom the South, the number SHRI FRANK ANTHONY ; I want of Opposition Members is much less. to say a very few words. I hope you wiJI give ample opportuni- ties Ito a1l of us to speak here and I hOpe that in your band, the dignity and Sir, I am welcomin, him as the leni· clecorom of this house is very safe and ormost Member of the House and I am )'OU 'Witt protect the interests of the cODaratulatina him. May I sa, that. it oPPosition Parties also very welJ in the is unfortunate that some Mcm~. on H~Ute. tbi. part of the House have walked out because be i. a Member of tbe Part.Y tha t I conaratulate you once morc. You has Dot with rcaoJlD4inl ..•u_ '·~,~e .... an educated man and I am tuN you Astembl, eJoc1ioDl aDd I t ~.~. ' I t~, 117 FelicitatilJ'" to MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) Deputy Sptdker 178

.cbieved unprecedented success in respect and whatever is laid down in the biiok of seats in this Hous~? May I say this to conduct the proceeding of this august which is probably not known to many House in a proper and dignified nianber members that there are no precedents impartially, because you are 'hete to as such? I had the good fortune to Jead enhance, enrich and nourish a very to the Deputy Speaker's Chair Mr. beautiful, a very fine shady tree under Swell when he was an independent. You which we all sit and try to aspire '(or must know that now there is a tendency new horizons. And that wil1 be the to treat independents as inferior to those most fitting thing. belonging to the so-called parties. Mr. SweH was there and he made a very You are an Engineer and, I hOl)e .••• excellent Deputy Speaker. I am certain that you wil1 uphold the high traditions SHRI M. THAMBI DURAl of your new office. May I ask you to (Dharma Puri) E:onomist. be amply reasonable to tbe members of this side of the House in giving oppor- MR. SPEAKER: Very good; that is tuni ties to take part in tbe proceedings right. That is much more important of the House ? because money makes the mare go, without money. there cannot be ahiy- I want to make a last request which thing. If economy is sound, everytblng I made to the Speak~r and, that is. Mr. is going to be sound. Deputy Speaker, you w iH restore-I am saying in aU seriousness-the original AN. HON ME.MBER: Economists practice of giving meaning to the ex- are needed in the House. pression "catching the Speaker's eye" and that you wi II not just go down the line mechanically. Those of us which MR. SPEAKER: That is why We you feel have some contribution to make are putting him in the Chair too. to the debate, irrespective of whether we are independents or belong to sha- SHRI RAJIY GANDHI: It is time vings or sub.. shavings you will call us also. according to your discretion. MR. SPEAKER: The time is very Once agai n I we kome you and con- much apt for tbe introduction of Ode gratulate you. economist in the Chair.

MR SPEAKER: While joining the I think you wi 11 be carrying on the relicitations

I wish to express my respects to M·R. SPEAKER: Before I invite you our bon M.O. Ramachandra, Chief to the Chair, I would like to inform Minister of Tamilnadu, for nominating the House that we shall ha"e Calling me to this high office. I am sure I will Attention Motion tabJed today at 4.00 prove worthy of his choice. P.M. At 6 PM. the Prime Minister will reply to the debate.

Our great leader, la te lamented Now I will invite you to this Chair. Perarigner Anna outlined duty, dignity Welcome, and discipline as prerequisites for success in any field. It wilJ be my 12.28 hr~ endeavour to always follow these good principles while dischargfng my duties [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in th~ Chair] as Deputy Speaker of this honourable House. MR. DEPUTY SPI!AK ~R: itate. rnents under RlJle 377. Sbr; Chietaman i One can never fail to pay homage Jena. to our late Prime Minister Shrimati ludira Gandhi, the iJJustrious daughter 12.29 brs of Mother India, Destiny snatched her MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 from .monlSt us. I am surt we will continue to march ahead keeping her [English] life. actions and words as the guiding prine! plea. f (i) Need to Coa.ert the R.psa-BaDlIrlpo.l Narrow Gaale Railwa, LIDe '.to Broad Gaule Mr. Speaker, Sir, 1 am conscious tlaat tbe ollce of Deputy Speak.er. Lok SHR.I CHINTAMANI lENA ....ba, .... all aloD, been occupied (Bal.sore ): Sit, Rupaa.Blaliripoli 181 MAGHA 2, 1§06 (SAKA) It.ul~ 377 112

Narrow Gauge railway line under materials worth Rs. 128.32 lath' and K.baragpur division of S.E Railway was the balance of Rs. 50.63 lakhs whicb constructed about a century back and has to be provided for machinery, has been functioning without any im· electrical equipment, humidification and provements in it, even though this area buildings, etc., has not been given 'by has been developed after establishment National Textile Corporation so far. of many industries and doscovery of mineral products as well as tremendous The working capital of the mill at increase of population. After several present is approximately Rs. IS lakbs demands from verious corners, the S.E whereas the unit requires a workin, Railway authorities have conducted a capital of Rs. 178.95 lakhs. Hcnce, it survey of its conversion into Broad is very difficult to run the miJl with Gauge railway line and declared j t this meagre amount of working. capital non remunerative which has disappoin- The mill is remaining idle with 17,148 ted the users. It is learnt from some spindles at present. reliable sources tha t the, experts while conducting the survey did not take note of the newly established industries As part of its modernisation pro- and some such industries which are under gramme, a huusing project for the mill construction as well as the mineral was proposed to be constructed at a products and forest of this area. Had cost of Rs. 39.42 lakhs. The HUDCO these been taken into consideration has to bear Rs. 27.50 laths and the the project would have been very balance of Rs. 11.92 lakhs is to be pro. remunerative especially when the Jatest vided by the N .T.C. But the aforesaid proposal was to connect it with the amount has not been given to the broad gauge railway line near Goruma- mill so far. hisani, which is connecting Howarh-- Bombay railway line at Tata Nagar. If the mill is funded adequately, it can provide employment to more than ] 000 local peopJe. So, it is necessary On the basis of such a wrong that the working capital is increased to survey conducted by the railway autho- the tune of Rs.l crore. At the same rities, I would very humbly request the time, the Central Government should hon. Railway Minister kindly to issue provide adequate funds for implemen- necessary orders to conduct re-survey ting the second phase of the sanctioned of this narrow gauge Rupsa-Bangiriposi modernisa tion programme of Orissa railway line keeping in view the need Cotton mill forthwith. to connect it with the broad guge line near Gorumahisani. Necessary action my please be taken a t the Raj Iway [Trans/ alio!l_' Ministry level for its conversion into broad gauge railway line in tile first year of Seventh Plan period which will (iii) Need to CheCK Illegal MiDi.. of fulfil long cherished demand of this Coal in Shahdol (Madhya Pradesh) backward tribal area. SHRI DALBIR SINGH (Shahdol):

(i i) Funds for l\lodernisatio n of Orissa Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir I there have Cotton Mills been serious instances 10 show that illegal mining and pilfierage of coal SHRIMA.'1'l lAYANl'l 'Pi\'tNAIK have stat\e~ a%ai\\ \n Soha&\)\1t Co\\\~- (Cuttack): Sir, the Orissa Cotton Mill, Ties under the W.C.L. in my consti. Jagatpur t Cuttack, is facing serious tuency of Sbahdol. I have rcceiwd a financial crises. As per the second phase report that the General Manaaer of of sanctioned modernisation prOlramme the SohalPur area wu fatally attacbcJ tho mill has to run 25.000 spindles out on 4.1.1985 by the Pili involved in of which 17.148 spindles have been pilfer_ae of coal, wbeD be went then installed and . 8,000 spindles are yet to for a surprise check. A report to tJUs be ;p'taU~d. The mil) bas received effecl was locf8ed in tho police stllioa. Motters IInder JANUAlly." 22, 1985 Rule·· 377 184

[Shri Dalbir Singh] tions in this area have suffered~ The I have also b~en told that after farmers are in distre 55 and the poor haJfing grabbed the land near the agricultural labourers are out of employment. ex~~osfves.magazine belonging to Budhar group of Mines, coal depots were set up there and a Dumber of illegal coal Therefore, I urge upon the Govern- dep,ots have already been set up near ment to take a quick decision to clear Bud,har, Amlai. Dhanpuri, Rungta and the irrigation part of the Kurjar Kutty. Chachai collieries t , f ~ Ka~appara Project. There are large deposits of coal in [English] this district, where' coal is not extracted by the w.e L. Illegal mining of coal (v) Delay in issuing Visa by P akiltaD is also taking place there. As a result Embassy thereof, Government is suffering a great loss and illegal busi ness is con ti nuously flourishing there. This· has caused PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara- mulla): The people of Jammu and danaerI .. not only to law the 2nd order situation of the district but also the Kashmir face a Jot of difficulty in pe,ce of the area. Due attention should obtaining visas for Pakistan. People be paid to this serious situation. drawn from far-flung areas of Karnah, Keran Gurez, Tulail, Uri and other (iY) Need to clear tbe Irriga tion Part or areas have to come all the way to Delhi tbe Kuriar Kutty-Karappara Project in and camp here for works to ob~ajn Kerala visa. It is often that they return to their homes empty-handed. The visa ··SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN office at Srin~gar which had been set (Palgbat); The Kuriar Kutty-Karrapara up a nunlber of years ago is efunet multi-purpose project was conceived Even visa forms are not available for ·saving the drought-prone areas of there. Genuine passport-holders who Ma.l,bar by ensuring perennial water want to visit Pakistan urgently get supp~ and solving to a great extent stranded. There is no difficulty in tbe, crippling power shortage in this getting the cases cleared through the are~. However, like many other project, agencies concerned within our country. thi~ too got entangled in ecological but there are inordi na te delays in and otber technical problt:ms. Thus, getting visa. I wish the Ministry of after many years of j 1s conception, the External Affairs revitaliscs the Passport chances of its nlaterialising are as Office at Sri nagar . • uncertain as ever. This project has been sbuttling between the Centre and KeraJa I would also suggest that the for too long. This uncertainty should Pakistan Government may be requested be put an end to; if due to ecological to s treamJine the system of issuing problems the power genera ting part of visas by its embassy in India so that this project cannot be sanctioned, the the delays are oboiated. irrigation part may be sanctioned withotJ t any further delay. If this part is completed~ a large segment of [Tr(/n~ /al ion} Chittur taJuk could be irrigated. At (vi) Steps to save Yamuna Water present there is an acute shortage of even drinking water in this area. in Delbi from beiDi Pollute. by I ...... Agriculture is the only means of trial Wast•• and Sew. livelihood of both the farmers and tbe, agri.caJtural labourers, Due to SHRI1AI PARKASH AGARWAL sca,-cit, 01 water, agricultural opera- (Chandni, Chow") Mr. Deputy Speake·r.. Sir, I am drawins ,your~.tteia .. ** 1'_:.. speech : was rClioally delivered tion to the foJlowio. .ubje(;t Q*f): in MaJa,_l,m, RuJe 377. 18$ Matter. under MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) M Dtion tJ/ ThaNes 186 Rul.377 on tlte President's Address

Water is the basic need of our life. All 12.39 brl. livins beings creatures, trees and plants arc . dependent on water. Nature has MOTION OF THANKS ON THE given us life after creating immense PRESIDENT'S ADDRESS-Contd. resources of water. [English] Yamuna river is the pride of our capita), Delhi. At one time, this river MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now the House will resume discussion OD was famous for its pure, clean and the following Motion of Thanks on the healthy water. But now, its water is being polluted by the discharge of President's Address moved by Prof. N. G. Ranga and seconded by Shri factory effluents into it. As a result, B.R. Bhagat on 18th January, 1985:-- the YalDuna ri ver water is stinking. It has become a breeding ground for many types of germs and diseases. 'Tha t an Address be presented to In this way, the water of the Yamuna the President in the fo))owing river is being polluted. terms:-

That the Members of Lok Sabha The pollution of the Yamuna water assembled in the session are in Delhi is linked with the industrial deeply gra teful to the President developnlent and population growth. for the Address whicb he bas The industrial development results in been pleased to deliver to both increased discharge of effluents. The Houses of Parliament assembled danler of water pollution has together on the 17th January. u further increased due to the production 1985. , of dyes and paints, insecticides and radio-active material. Diff~rent chemi- Shri Narayan Choube-- absent. cals either dissolve into water or they act mixed with food stuffs Shri Sultan Salahuddin Owaise.

I request the Government to take immedia te steps to keep the Yamuna [Translation) water clean, so that pollution of the river water does not take a serious turn. SHRI OWATSI (Hyderabad): Mr. Flowiog of industrial wastes and Deputy Speaker , Sir, seveal issues effluents into the river must be have been touched in the PresideDtSs stopped. Address. There is a mention of corruption and many other problems. But. I would submit that the Some immediate steps shoud be largest minority in India is the Muslim taken, like enforcing a code of conduct community, They have a few problems on factories, stopping the flow of of their own. Those problems should also be brought before this House. effluents and disposal of sewage into You are aware that the foremost the river. Our Prime Minister talees problem of the Muslims is the problem keen interest in ecology. He has shown of law and order in India. After independence, 17,000 riots took place a persona) interest in the programme in India in which Muslims bad to for the purity of the Gaoga water. It is suCCet a lot in terms of loss of my requcst to him that there should life and property. They had to Jose their honour also. Tba t is wby I be an intesrated scheme to save the want that a police force should be the Gaol. and the Yamuna ri vets from created for this purpose. which Ihoulcl pollution, bl'" l~ per cent Mus]illl$. Christiua. 187 . Motion 01 Tha1lks on JANUARY 22, 198' the President's Address 188

[Shri Owaisi] ameni ties could be provided to the Harijans . and people belonging to people residing there. other communities, because it is seen that whenever there is a riot, At the same time, I would like to Muslims are not only the sufferers but say that the Central Government tbey are arrested also. Ther~fore, to should enact a common law providiug put an end to such riots, the only for an identical age of superannuation solution is to create a police force for all government employees throug- of this kind. hout India. As you know, the age of superannuation in Andhra Pradesh Moreover, the representation of the was S8 years previously but it was Muslims in the government services has reduced to 55 years nrhen the NTR come down to less than per cent. 2 Governmen t came to power and as They are being totally deprived of a result thereof thousands of employees Government services today and have were thrown out of employment all no hope for the future also. of a sudden. It has, however, been enhanced to S8 years now)but the result In addition to this, it is my request is that thousands of employees who that interference in their personal were retired earlier, are suffering law should come to an end, because even today. No relief has been according to the amendment made by provided to them so far. the present ParJiament, any Muslim who divorces his wife, has to pay her mai 11 tenance allowance till she re- Issues regarding recent elections marries. This is against our Sharivat have been raised here just now. I and the law should be amended would also like to bring it to the to annual such interference in our notice of the Government of India that persona1 La w . hundreds of persons were arrested on the eve of recent elections. In my area also, 400 persons were arrested Similarly, there are many more and that too just one day before the things. You may be aware that the ejections. Similarly, in Secunderabad, Muslims had recently agitated in from where our Union Minister, Mr. connection with mosques in Delhi. Anjiah. has been returned, four to They had demanded that any mosque five hundred party workers were which came under the category of arrested. I do not think that impar- ancient monuments should be opened tial elections can be conducted to the pUblic, so that they got the in this way. i would Ii ke you to ensure facility to offer lvamaz there, because that elections are conducted imparti- a mosque is built to offer Namaz and ally. It should not be the case that not to be protected by the Ancient all the party workers are arrested just Monuments Department of the on the night before elections and Government of India. 1 t is alright that after that you come forward to say you protect them to which we have no that fair elections have been conducted. objection, but the public shouJd have I do not thillie such an election can be the liberty to offer Nama= at any time. termed as impartial. Today there is a These are the things over which people care-taker Government in Andbra of this area are perturbed. Pradesh and eJections are proposed to be held there. But the Police In addition. I would like to officers there are beiDg transferred request tbat in Hyderabad also such riabt now. I.G.P. has been trans- facilities should be made abailable. ferred. it is very unfair. Similarly, Althouah Hyderabad is an aJlcient city, District Blection Officers, Municipal yet it Jacks even basic amenitics. It is. Corporation officers are also beiDI tt-erefore, n~sary tha t some assi.- fransferred. You will be surprised to tuee ia provided by tbe know that thousands of namel. only Central Government. so that tIM basic of tbe Muslim, were struck off fr.m the r , • 189 Motion 0/ Thanks on MAGMA 2, 1906 (SAkA) the President's Address 190

electoral rolls. Seven thousandt names sure there is no secularism here. 17 were added to the list in a particular thousand riots have taken place here year while seven thousand names were after India became independent. I deleted from it the next year. The think there has been more bloodshed question is as to how these names in India than in any other country. were deleted within a year. In this Today jf you ob.,erve you wiH find way. the number of the people who were tbat water has got some value in this on the electoral rolls five years back, country but the blood of the Muslims has been reduced today. Population has no value at aU. This situation is increasing but the number of voters must come to an end now. I hope it is in Andhra Pradesh is decreasing the duty ef our new young Prime conti nuous)y. It is the duty of Minister, wno was able to control tbe the Government of India to loot into recent riots in Delhi. to curb aU such aU these matters as to why all such activities. The injustices that have been things are taking place tbere. At tbe done continuously should be put to an same time I would like that it should end so that recurrence of such riots also be looked into as to what is could be prevented. happening with the minority community there. I t is your job to keep a proper All complicated issu'!s relating control over the situation prevailing to the minority community should be there as the minority community is not looked into properly ~ith a view to feeling safe there. Whatever has find out their causes and to know where happened to the minority community injustice has been done and to suggest there, is Continuing uninterruptedly ways and means to remove that. In and has now assumed alarming pro- order to solve the problems of portior:s. With the result that hund- minorities" tbe Minorities Commissions reds of thousands of people are facing have, undoubtedly, been set up both trouble, some are leaving the ci ty and the centre as will as in States but their others are selling thl!ir houses and reports are thrown into waste paper shifting their business. In this situ- baskets and not acted upon. It would ations it is the responsibility of the be better to make the commission's Government to maintain Jaw and recommendations JegaJly binding. order there and extend all help to the Otherwise it happens tba t the minori ty communi ty. Commission is appointed and the report is submitted, but the report is The Government is secular. I thrown into the waste paper basket. would like that the secularism ,should No result is achieved. Therefore, actuaHy be practised in Andhra Pradesh. the Minorities Commission should be There should not be a ny talk of aranted statutory states, so that their granting holy status to any city. It is recommendations are implemented and stated that the status of Vatican city the facts co~e to Ii,ht. would be glanted to Tirupati. 1 do not think such talks and things are With these few words, I thank you proper in secu1ar J ndia. Some people for Jiving me time to speak. may demand a holy sta tus (or Ajmer or for any Gurudwara. The Govern- nlent should keep a vigil on all such SHRI AZEEZ SAlT tDharwad things South): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I associate myself with the Motion of Thanks 00 tbe PresidenCs Address. tile The question is who will testify President in his Address explained tbe that there is secctarism in the country. serious conditioti prevailing in the cou- It is only the minority that can do so ntry aDd has also mentioned about the and When the minority of this country astelSimation of our sister ,Prime Minister say tha t there is secularism here, then SIIIt. Indira Gandhi. It was a lruesome only the world will accept U. But if murder which bad serious repercussion. the minority does not fee) safe, it is in the country. Smt. Indira Gandlri baa . . \ 1'1 Motl." tlf Thanks on JANUARY 22, 1985 the President', Addr~,s 192

(Shri Au.ez Sait] it has been my experience that this sacrificed h~r life for tbe sake of the is t'to largest unorngiased sector. For unity and security of the country. the tbeir benefit welfare laws, on the President also touched the 20-point Jines of Lime workers Welfare Fund, prolramme. As far as the 20-point Bidi Workers Welfare Fund should programme of Govt. of India is con- be enacted so, as to fix minimum cerned, we should not only ensure wages and also to creat a welfare its successful implementation but also fund for them. see that its benefi ts reach everybody. As far as r know, the minorities, in any part of the country, are not being The President of India has revealed treated at par with other sections of the in his Address that textile mills in India are in a very bad shape. Some society, whether it be the matter of bank new measures will have to be taken IGans or any other scheme, constant injustice is being meted out to the peo- to save them. Modernisation is required and alongwith it we shall ple belonging to minoriy communties. also have to absorb the workers in these mills. Nothing has been said in the President's Address about the About education, it has been men- minori ties us. my learned friend Sh"i tioned that a national policy will Sultan Salahuddin Owaise has just be adopted. In my opinion it is a mentioned, th"ere is a minority concurrent subject. It should be taken community in this country which is out of the State list and included in Dot only the largest minority commu- the Union List, so that some uniform nity but also has a distinct culture educational formula is adopted in and identi ty and the circumstances all the St ates under one national are such that its culture and identity policy . . should be preserved. Shri Sultan Salabuddin Owaise made a specific mention of the Personal Law. It has I come from Karna taka, where been made clear in the manifesto of we have been facing many diffi- our party that the Government would culties with respect to education. An not interfere with the Personal Law. Education Bill was recently brought I would like that this should not which have been passed and sent for remain confined to the manifesto only. President's Assent. I had written to I would requ.:st our young Prime the President of India that it was Minister that while replying to the against the spirit of the Constitution dabate, he should declare in the of India and it should not be Assented House that ~he Government would to. As a result thereof, no decision not interfere with the Personal Law has yet been taken on this Bill. of the Muslims, as mentioned in the menifes to. Irrigation has also been mentioned in the Address. The area to which SHRI OW AtSI ~ Announcement to I belong is a very backward and this effect has been made. pover ty-stricken area. I would like that Upper Tunga Project should be SHRI AZEEZ SA IT : It has been undertaken at· the earliest, so that announced, but I would like that our 3.96 lakh hectares of Jand is brought Prime Minister should also declare under irrigation. I would again say in the House that there would be no that there is no mention about the interference. In the Address agri<:uhural minorities in the President's. Address workers have been praised for the There are so many problems of hard work done by them in increasins minorities and I would deal with them the production of foodgrains. I am in the next Budset Session. thankful to the President for these remarks. But as Labour Minister Wi th these words, I cODclude " , I ! 193 Motion of Thanks on MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) the President's Address i94

{English} Of whether you want to build your own house or you want to do anything P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM SHRI the red tape is very much visible. And (Salem>: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir I rise in our nation it is this red tape which to support the Motion of Thanks on is coming in the way of progress. the PresidenCs Address moved by the Unless we standardise and discipline hone member, Prof. N.G. Ranga. I the bureaucracy as well as ourselves take this opportunity to point out it js impossible for us to have rapid that the Motion is properly eddressed progress. And, may also say, that in stating that the unambiguous verdict order to have progress it is necessary of the people is also for continuity for us to use almost every instrument of the basic policies which have that is available, that science has given strength to OUf country and for made available, that technology has dynamic responses to the changing made available, in order to achieve situation. If I may, I would like to rapid progress? It is no longer possi. add that the emphasis should be in ble for us as a nation, on this eve of future on the dynamic responses to the twenty-first century to sit apart and the changing situation for the simple say that we will ado;>t old fashioned reason the people would not tolerate methods or policy instruments and use Inaction they want changes quickly; the same to achieve progress. Time they want rapid growth very rapidly. never waits for anybody and neither It is not possible any more for us to would progress I f we have to catch give excuses or an) other form of ans- up with the rest of the world, we have wers to inaction, The people will not to use every sing1e instrument that is tolerate any delay, brook any answer available, in both science and techno- to inaction. logy for progress. But at the same time there is a smalJ world of caution, I think you are a ware and I am which I thought all of us should adhere sure most of the members of this to. Mere blind purchasing or utilisa- House would agree wi th me tha t tion of instruments of technological progress requires discipline, standards progress will not solve the problem. We as well as action. it is impossible if will firstly have to standardise all our you have a confusion or varying institutions for like manner of function- standards to have quick progress. It ing, discipline ourse Ives, and only then is a facf undoubtedly that even though can we be capable of using this new we are among the developing. nations, instruments which technology has made one of the reasonably well developed avai lable. To be explicit, I would say developing nations,we have varying stand- if you want to put computers, for ex- ards with varying views and ideals in ample in banks, it is impossible to do similar situations. To give an example, so today unless all your banking insti- if you go to banks for assistance tutions have similar forms, similar set under the same ~cheme you will find of rules and tackle all your problems two different banks giving people of similarly. The amount of confusion our country different forms, aski ng that is there is almost similar some- different queries and raising different times to our Zero Hour here. It is rules. quite amazing to know that jf one goes to any institution or any organisation one comes across the same state of 13.00 hrs. affairs. Thi~ is because of lack of standardisation and Mr. Deputy-Speaker, The reason is simple. It is a total a t this moment 1 would like to tate or standardisation and a certain this opportunity to request you to ask amount of confusion in our adminis- the Government as a whole to take it trative system. The red tape which is up on a priority, to immediately, elf.eti. very much prevalent, which is there, vely standardise, remove unreasonable whether you want to start an industry and unnecessary restrictions. simplify or whether you want to appJy for a Joan, and follow the ea,iest c:oursc that if , . . 19~ Motio" of Thank, 0" JANUARY 22, 1985 tile Pre.iden'·s Address 196

[Shri P R Kumaramangalam] internal matter of that country. There required for rapid progress keeping of are many people who have been affec- course, the national interests in mind. ted. how many of us in this Hous~ itself can say arc our brothers and Lastly, I would like to state that ;t is sisters and close relations. I would not a simple rna tter to say tha t we wi II like to submit that the TamiJians in Sri have a new national education policy Lanka are not necessarily Indians. In without r~ally ana1ysing our manpower fact, some of the Tamilians who had resources. Therefore, Mr. Deputy- settled in Sri Lanka, settled there long Speaker. Sir, I request you to address before even the Sinhalese settled in Sri the Government as a whole that it is Lanka. The history has stated that weB necessary firstly to do a proper man- in advance. In fact, even the Sri power planning to know what sort of job Lankan Government does indicate and will be available in future, what sort of refer to the Sinhalese Tarni I and the qualifications are required and there- Indian Tamil. The reason is very after formulate an educational policy simple. Nearly 2500 years ago, even Till now, we have formulated our before the Sinhalese came in and Prince educat ional policies based on various Vijaya set up his kingdom, Tamllians considerations but thi nk for the I had ~oved in there in the northern future the most importan t consideration region. That is why, those Tamilians should be, depend ~ng on our develop- are called Sinhalese Tamilians. In the ment plans bow many jobs are going to eighteen and nineteen centuries the be available, and which sort of are British took some Tamilians over to going to be available jobs are going Sri Lanka to manage their tea estate. to be- availabfe and wha t They are called Indian Tamilians. There are the qualifications required for is an open direct discrimination against the job a nd on the ba ,is of tha t Jet us Tamilians as a race, whether Sinhalese have an educationa I policy. Otherwise, Tamil or Indian Tamil. Today, they we will be faced once again with the are being subjected to open violence by present set of circumstances, having the Government utilising unifortnate educated unemployed, some of them elements and forces like the Mossad. very highly qualified. We have doctor- ates in very sensitive subjects like some. times physics who have no jobs avai 1- I do know t ha t there is a calling able and it is a highly embarrassing attention notice on this matter. But I situation for many of us younger mem- wish to say this that the Government of bers of this honourable augus t House to India should take up the matter on a face some of those educa ted unemplo- serious footing and find a solution yed youth. expeditiously, if necessary by resorting to whatever diplomatic forces that are Therefore, I would request you Sir, available, whether using our position to intervene and convey to the Govern- of having our Prime Minister as the ment that it is necessary firstly to do Chairman of the Non-Aligned Meet or manpower planning in consonance and by using any other position. The in link with the future plans and even Tamilian people in OUf own country for the Seventh Plan and based on the will not forgive us if we allow matters same, formulate our educational policy. to lie low since TamiJians are being massacre in thousands. May I, with your permission, touch upon a subject which the President has meatioDed. quite strongly, but I feel not I would like to end with the small with enoulh emphasis? That is OD the request through you, Sir, to the hon. IUbject of Sri Lanka and the ethnic Members on the oth~r side that violence in Sri Lanka. It is not a this time the people lave their verdict matter I think: which anyone of us can with the hope of rapid growth and in look at lightly any more. The ethnic case, per chance, rapid growth does Dot YioleDce in Sri Linka is Dot a matter take place, tbe people will not lose aDJ more whj~b ODe caD sa)' i. an faith in the rutinl part)' oDI)' but the)' 197 Motion 01 Thanks on MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) Ethe Pre,iden/ts Addr~" 198 wilJ lose faith in the s),st-em aDd this engaged in destabi lising the country. institution. Therefore, I request them The Government did not pay sufficieDt through you that tbey should cooperate heed to these warnings. They even with us a,nd help us. We will definitely refused and still refuse to name tho take them with us on any problem and U.S. Imperialism. Throughout the ele- on any issue. We require them to ctions, Government went on blamina ,solve the problems. I am sure, they the opposition for destabiJisation. will cooperate and they do understand However, we, from CPI, will continue very clearly that the future will not to lend fuJ) support to the Government brook any excuses and the people will for national unity and against destabi. never forgive either them or us in case lisation. Let the new Prime Minister the growth is not rapid. and his Government take bold steps in the matter. Our support to those pro- SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY per steps will continue. (Midnaporc) ; Actually the country is passing through a condition full of There had been a total collapse of perils and dangers. As a part of the Government for three to four days in global strategy of US imperialism to Delhi after 31.10.1984 when Shrimati prepare for a world war which will Indira Gandhi was murdered. Three definitely turn into a nuclear holocaust, to five thousand Sikhs have been killed. our country is being surrounded by U.S. Attacks in a planned manner, with arms. Pdkistan is being armed to the voters' lists in hand, went on. Leading teeth. The American bases are coming Congressmen, including some M.Ps. up in Bangladesh under one name or led the mob attacks. We want a judi- the other. There is Diego Garcia in the cial probe into the matter. We want Indian Ocean full of modern arnlS that 'Punjab problem should be solved including nuclear arms. early and we will lend all help to the Government if it wants to solve the There are serious attempts to des- problem of Punjab. tabJise this country of ours from within. In Punjab, Assam and some other place We accept the mandate of the people secessionist elements taking advantage that came out of the general eJections. of the genuine long standing grievances It was for national unity aud integrity. of the people, are working overtime to But never before there has been such divide our country. Even our late and misuse of mass media, never before dear Prime Minister was brutally mur- there has been such misuse of T.V. and dered at her residaence by her own radio Such clossaJ expenditure on bodyguards. It was a neat and well advertisement, such massive rigging as thought-out plan of imperialism and took place in Bihar, has never taken CIA formaUy executed by some Sikh place. The photographs have appeared secessionist elements. in Telegraph ... ,•. (Inlerruptlons) PROF. K.K. TEWARY (Duxar): Now comes the biggest of big news West Bengal voters' list was manipula- ever. The house of th:: Prime Minister ted. itself was the centre of espionage. Now comes the information that foreign SHRI NARAYAN CHOUDEY : Sir, Western powers were all working over he has not seen the photographs coming time to destabilise the country. from in Telegraph ... ..( Interruptions) within the house of the Prime Minister BV\lD the persona) staff of the Prime PROF. K.K. TEWARY : I wiJl see. Minister was involved in passing stra. tegic information of the C.I.A. SHRI NARA YAN CHOUBBY: Much before the elcetions~ tho GOvctll- Our party has aU along ~en ment had decided tbat such and IUell warniaa tbe Govern neot that tbe Im- seats in Bibar must be won. A iJarlDa pcri.'i~? tho USA and the CIA are .11 case is the election at Patna where eYOIl 199 Motion of Thanks on JANUARY 22, 1985 the President·s Address 200

IShri Narayan Choabey] SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBBY : Sir. he is against quoting figures which 10 the directives of the Election Commis- against his Government. Overdraft by sion have been amended at the last Sta tes has been nearly Rs. 2,000 crores. moment to allow counting of votes in There has been a heavy shortfa)) in the such booths where polling was between plan expenditure to the tune of 2S to 30 90 per cent to 100 per cent. It was per cent. So, naturally there is a trade only to defeat Shri Ramavatar Shastri, deficit in this year to the tune of Rs. the candidate from our party. 6,000 crores. (Inlerruplions) For West Bengal the overdraft is something like Tall claiml have been made regar- Rs. 219 crores; for UP the overdraft is ding the health of economy under this Rs.250 crores. The total overdraft is Government. I beg to ci te, and you something like Rs. 2,000 crores. will agree with me, that even the reduc- ed target s of the Sixth Plan are not goine to be fulfilled. A shortfall to the The (oreign exchanje reserve of Rs. tune of R~. 10,000 crores in plan ex- 6,500 crores, as claimed by Rashtrapatiji penditure in the final year due to the is ilJusory because out of this Rs. 4,420 paucity of funds has been there. Defici t crores are IMP loans. From next financing bas exceeded by Rs. 3,700 financial year the repayment liability of crores as against the budget provision the Government will increase. Now we of Rs. 1,762 crOTes. Overdraft by States ... are making a repayment of Rs 1,000 crores annually. From next year it will (Interruptions) be Rs. 2,900 crores annua))y. So, we want to know the fate of the Seventh PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Mr. Deputy Plan. Earlier, it was stated that we Speaker, Sir , with due respect to the will have a gross deficit of the order of hone Member who is a very senior Mem· Rs. 40,000 crores. Now what are you ber, It is against the convention and the going to do? Are you going to have a rules to read out from a prepared state- Plan holiday, or are you going to prune ment. The whole speech cannot be read planning to the turn of Rs. 1.18,000 out. crores?

SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Government have taken loans from These are only notes. the World Bank and the IMF. It is tcue that we have not drawn the last instal- SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO ment of the loan from IMF. But what (mormugao) : Sir we are not against about the loans that you have taken from Euro dollars countries? What is the regarding Actually 9 it takes lot of time in making the speech very comprehensi \Ie rate of interest? The Government must When tbe Chair gives a ruHng, then openly out and say the amount of loan everybody must abide by it. they have taken of Eura-dollars and for what purpose they have made use of them .• (Interruptions) Since Shri Tewari SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY; you bas come here by rigging, he is incorrigi can see to it, Sir, these are or.Jy points. ble.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please make use of the points only, don·' read You have now deviated from the the whole thing. Industrial Policy Resolution of 1956. In that Resolution, we had decided SHRI NARAY AN CHOUBEY: that the public sector will be attajnins Why don't you see, Sir, these are points more and more commandina beiahts only •••••• (Inter' up lions) every year. But now we are findinl that it bas been diluted to a areat ex- MR.. DEPUTY.SPEAKER; Please tent and that even the core sector of addle •• the Cbair... only. the economy il beiDI banded ov,r '0 201 Motion of thanks on MAGliA 2, 190' (SALi) th, President'l AJdre8J 202 the private sector. It is now" in frobt in man)' units the capacity utilisation of all of us to see. We have the ArjuD by the public sector is much better Sen Gupta Report We have got the Abid than that of the· private sector. No" Hussian Report. They say tbat the if we open our floodgates to the multi- public sector should have lesser and nationals and foreign monopoliel, it lesser commanding heights, as compared will further weaken our economy. to the private sectof. The new Go- vernment, the youngman's Government, There has been no mention in the is giving green sinlal to Speech of our Rashtrapatbi about tho multinationals and monopoly hoUles of role of the small-scale industries. the private sector. Tatas are . de- manding that the MRTP Act should be be scrapped and that they should be Now, I come to all round poverty permitted to penetrate into the sectors that is prevailing in this of medium and small-scale industries. covntry. There are ~Iaims that poverty is there among the fifty per cent of the population while tbe Go- In the name of modern know-bow, vernment claims that it is only 42 pcr- in the name of pt:rfomance c:ent. Whetever the figures, it is a in the name of quick results, this fact that the largest number of people Government is going to aHow more in the world living under poverty line foreign capital to get into this country. are in this country whose name is We are apprehensive that, if more capi- IBdia. Per capita availability of arain tal from foreign countrie'J comes in- and cloth has been systematically com- to this country, it will spell disaster ing down. to our economy. There is a saying in Bengali: PROF. K.K. TEWARY: They are symbolised by you. "Waniker Mandand dekha dislow rajdundrupe Pohale Sharvari''. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Thank you, go on speaking. Indira .. The East India Company came here wave would not continue fOf more than as traders. Then, making lise of their one year. Don't worry for that. trading capaci ty, they controlled the economy and then took ov~r the reins of this country. Now, by allowing Employment genera tion by NRI!P f()ceign capital to come into our coun- is coming down gradua)Jy. In 1)80-81 try without any check, we shall per- it was 414 milJions and in 1981 .. 82 it hap be dOing something which will came down to 3SS millions and in 1983-84 spell disaster to our economy. it becam: 302 million only. Now look at the funds for tbe NREP. They bav\! also been comin, down. In 1983-84 it Even in January 1980, in the policy was Rs.S37.9 crores and tbeir utilisa- statement it was nlentioned tbat the tion was only Rs. 393.45 crotes. In role of the public sector i~ to build the 1984-85 the amount came down to pillars of the economy, the infrastruc- Rs. 487.53 crores and only Rs. 39.33 ture. Now it is being built in su\:h a crores were utilised up to August. But way as only to help the private sector then elections came and tbey were used which can make use of it. We must for tbe ejection purposes. remember that the performance of the public sector is not in any way worse than that of the private sector. Avorale real carnin, of tho rural Yet, there is a hullabaloo from the labour declined as per the Sixth P .... ruUna party that tbe public sector Document. ihould be curbed, it should Dot be allo- wed to reach the commandina beipts. Now. I come to bow their GarRti AccordiD& to the BPE R.eport, in 1979 aatao GovcrnmeDt fUDCtioDCd. 1Aok , 203 Motioll of Thanks on JANUARY 22.. 1985 the Prelident', Addre" 204

[Shri Naravan Choubey] tbe GNP was controlled by the black at the a~sets in the rural areas. Thirty money. That is the amount that wae percent of the lowest group in tbe rural there in the year 1979 and today I do areas controJJed only 2.5 per cent of not know how much more it has ,rown the assets in 1961 and in 1971 it came and has been operating in our economy. down to 2 per cent. Now look at the top 30 per cent. They controHed 79 Now, I come to the last item I per cent. of the assests in 196) and in would like to speak on. The Go- 1971 they were controJling 81.9 per cent. vernment wants that the people should This is how your Garibi Hatao Gover- work calmly, quietly and be discipli- nment has worked an this is the fair ned, but the Government itself is distribution of assets. breaking discipline. Only after the All-India Railwaymen's Federation They have done away with the land went to the Court, the Government is reforms. My friend Tewary will de- paying DA instalments. The Natiot finitely support me in this case. In nal Council of the JCM has no- Bihar, UP and other places land re- held its meeting for tbe 1ast three form has been given a good-bye. Only years. And then how do you in the States which are run by the Left feel that the Government employees and only such States which are not and other employees wi1l be giving now run by the Left parties, but were vent to their views ? The Govern- run by them like in Kerala. they ment had set up a Pay Commission. could implement the land reforms. It was only intended to dupe the Waf. Tbe planners were not fools when they king cJass and their movement. spoke of the need for land reforms. But now t he Pay Commission never They have ~aid land reform is one of gives its report. In October, 1984 it the most important pillars for the eco.. was settled tha t the Pay Commissi on nomic growth in the country. But wlJu]d give its first Report. On 16-10-84 Congress (I} under the pressure of the Cabinet Secretary. Rao Saheb, as- the landlord lobby has given a comp- sured that the Pay Commission's terms lete good b)e to the land reforms. of reference would be altered. But nothing has beJ!n done. So, we de- I would not say anything abou t the mand that the Pay Commissjon should price rise. You caD go yourselves and immediately come out wi th the Interim find out what is prevailing in the Report aDd interim JeJief to the market and see for yourselves what has Government employees. Even the been claimed in the Rashtrapati award of the Board of Arbi tTa tion un .. Bhashan and what is there in reality. der the ]CM is not implemented. That means even the awards are not imple- Now I come to the unemployment mented by them. In fact, awards problem. The largest Dumber of un- - are binding on everybody. employed people living in this world are the inhabitants of the country named India. In 1980 when the PROF. K.K. TEWARY Interna- Congress (I) Government came to tional situation. power in the name of Garibi Hatao and the 20-point programme the un- employment figure was 1.8 crores. Now SHRI NARA VAN CHOUBEY: the fiaure has grown to 2.5 crores in International situation t The awards of 1984. the Board of Albitration under the JeM are not implemeoted; but they Speaking about corruption I would are bindinl. The OT allowance aDd .., it is growing un'abated. Sbri the uniform aJlowance for the P. " T . Dot liveD. lUCia Vasant Sathe, their Minister t has writ· workera was With teD a lood book. He bas claimed state of affairs, if there is. tan claim up to tbe year 1979, 49.25 per ceat of (rom the Government tbat evcrytlaiDi 20$ Motion of Thank, on MAGMA 2, 1906 (SAKA) the P,e,idenrs Addt ell ~ is passing on quietly everythiDI i. de. will have to do Introspection to fiad veloping independently and everythiDI out whether our actions during these is loing ahead well, we do not agree 35 years weakened our country's unity, with them, altbough we do assure that integrity and security. for national integration and national unity we will be giving Just now I heard the speech of an all support to the Government. But hone Member. I am in favour of not tbe way the Government has started only personal freedom but also other functioning by giving green signals freedoms of every ind ividual. But to monopoly houses and by giving something has been said here about per- green signals to multinationals, we sonal law. I think in the interest of wiJl never support. Jf the Govern- the unity, integrity and security of the ment goes on the right path, we shall coun try there should be only ODe support, but whenever the Government community in India~ i.e., Hindustani or takes action against the working people Indian or Bh~ratiya. As sucb, against the peasantry, if they do not while enacting any Jaw this criterion implement the land reforms, we shall should be followed lha t the enact- continue to oppose the Government. ment will not harm the unity, int~l. rity and security of the country. With these words, Sir, } thank you Our Constitution had initially made very much. several provisions, according to which a time-limit had been fixed for many [Translation] things, such as reservations etc. But in a democracy which has several advantages, we often shut our eyes to SHit} SRIPATI MISHRA (Mach- certain realities to accommodate the hlishahore): Mr. Deputy Speaker, wishes of the masses. That is Sir, I want to express my views on why a number of issues r.emain unsol- the Motion of Thanks on the President·s ved. } f some of the issues, for whicll Address. I would Ii ke to say a few a period of ten years had been pro- words regarding the points made in pa- vided for in the Constitution, bad ras 9, 10 and 11 of the Address9 I been solved within the stipulated pe- am expressing my views in respect, riod many new issue would Dot have of the faith of tbe people in elections arisen. and the mandate given by them in favour of the unity and integrity of the country. These are the issues in fa. Keeping in view the! martyrclom of vour of which the people have given Indiraji and ber devotion to the welfare such a massive majority to tbe rulinl of the masses and the country, the people party which is the largest since in- gave the reins of administratioD to • dependen~. This shows that the people party which has a history of never lose sight of the main issues. 100 years, 60 years history of struule for independence and about 40 years history thereafter. Now they expect It has been stated in the Address that party to come forward with some that efforts would be made to fulfil revolutionary steps. At the time of the assurances given on issues on which attainment of independence the parti- thismassive majority bas bee D siven. tion of the country took Development of the country depends on place aDd the unity, security and integrity of the there were two ca tegories-Indians Pakistanis. But country. One thing which comes to and after indepen- dence, even Indians are now divided our mind is as to why even after iD- "to many groups and one of the 37 yean of independence, these ques- reasons responsible is our laws. We tions ofthey unity. security and iDtes- therefor rity of the country ha,e arisen. But, are divided into touchablcs. caste if such questions arile, they should Hi ndus, backwards and otbers. We are devid ed in many Formation of Sta~ be solved. If we want tbe unity, inte. ways. tes OD IiDluistic basis bas furtber dJWdecl lrity and security or the country, we (Shri Sripati MishraJ Another point on which I would UI in all respects. By creating ad- ]ike to lay stress is that at tbe time ministrative and linguistic units we of enacting any law or givins any aid have created a number of problems ormaking any reservation etc., poverty at every place.. We took a number of should be our guiding factor. Other. steps in the interest of the country. wise, instead ()f coming into the But our experience has shown that mainstream, .people will isolate them- tbose steps were not in our national selves and join the forces of disintega- interest and as such we shall ha ve to tion. take some revolutionary stpes to solve many problems faced by our country- Wi th these words I thank you, me~. People have given this massive very much for giving me an opportm- mandate so that we may solve the pro- nity to express my views. blems the hindering unit)" integrity and security 0 f the country during the tcnure [English] of 8th Lok Sabha and also see that there is no recurrence of such pro- SHRI A. C. SHANMUGAM blems. (VeHore): Sir, Wi th deep senSe of dedication and devotion, I take part The present problems are the re- in the deliberations of this distinguished sult of regionalism and linguistic fee- House to welcome the President's lings. It has created the problems of address. Punjab and Assam and as a result thereof a great leader, not only of our country but of the whole world, had Firstly, I have to be thankful to to sacrifice her life. EVerywhere this may leader and hone Chief Minister question is before the people. When of Tamilnadu, Mr. M. G. Rama. the ruling party raised these questions, chandran who eleva ted me to this the opposition parties also raised position. certain issues which could not be aoIved by the Congress successfully. Our All India Anna DMK Govern- Some of their points were true but ment of Tamilnadu under the leader- people took them as insignificant as ship of Shri M.G. Ramachandran and compared to the vital point confron- all our Party's Members of Parliament tiDS the country. So now we have would extened full cooperation and to see whether we can review our policy support to our beloved and dynamic r.rdina reservation and reorganisa. Prime Minisler Mr. Rajiv Gandhi in tion of States wtth a view to checking his efforts to eliminate poverty, un- further division of the country. employment and external threats. We pledge our cooperation to him in all Another point was raised by a the good causes that he takes up for acDior Member of the House today the welfare of the nation, durin8 the Question Hour in regard to the feasibiHy of setting up a Supreme Court bench somewhere in the South. I welcome the move of the Un·ion Thereupon, Shri laipal Reddy said that Government in givins high priori ty to South India is South India and let it the SOCia), economic and cultural im. be located at any place in tbe Soutb. provement of women. We should stop thinkins in terms of South India and North India, I welcome the Anti.defection BiU. IDalead, we should say Ind ia is India. But I request that the Bill may be pas· Such a situation should be created sed without in any way a'feetin. the in tbe country in which nobody has an rights of tbe Members of Parliament opportunity to think in terms of South which tbey enjoy as citizens or tbe ....,.04 North India. Instead, we country aDd which have beeD luaran- ~ ahuD ..yiDa South India. teed to them under Article 19(1) of the North lodia, or We.t IIldia· Con.titut.OD. MAGHA 2, 1906 (SArA)

I r~qucst tlJat the Government may in the other parts of India. I re- be vle~ed to implement the Ganga- quest that Government may reconsi- Cauveri LinJc Scheme which has been der this policy and iocl ude at least lying only at the proposal stage since five of the districts in Tamilnadu i. independence. If this Scheme is im- the List of Zero Industries Districts. plenieoted. there would not be any scarcity of food in our country even The Union Government has not set at the worst of seasons which may hap- up any large industries in my State. pen due to the failure of rains. I would suggest that new industries may be set up in Tami1nadu in the The newspapers daily carry the re- forthcoming Budget. port that a number of traffic accidents havc taken place on the National I would also like to IUllest the Hi~ways. The reason for this is there setting up of a Leather Research Win. is DO onc-way traffic on the National of the Central Leather Research Institut, HiJhways. So, I suggest that one-way in North Arcot District as the" leather traffic alone has to be there on the tanning industry is very widespread National Highways. I would suggest in may district. Peranambut-Vaniym- that another National Highway road badi and Ambur Sectors are the pleacel may be formed for the opposite traffic which contribute a major share of the as is donc in foreign countries in Eu- foreign exchange earninls ia leather rope and in other developed countrie! export of this coun try. in the world. A large number of joblees youth In this connection, I would like to ha ve been found in the district. I ma,lcc a mention that both the Tamil- plead in this context that the Centre Nadu and the Andhra Pradesh Govern- may intensify the self-employment pro. ments have started. under the presi- motion schemes like NREP and dentship of our great Prime lvlinister RLEGP in rural areas. These schemes Shrimati Indira Gandhi, implementing should be ful!y financed by the Central Telugu-Ganga Channel Scheme. I re- Government. quest that the Central Government rna)' be ph:ased to provide financial as- I may also venture to suggest that sistance to both the Andhra Pradesh the Centre may set up a separate au- and the Tamilnadu Governments in im- tonomous governmental body with funds plementin& the above Scheme at the from various nationalised banks for earliest. attending to the 'advances lendinl work' . now being handled by the I request that the Government banks. 1 am making this suggestion may be pleased to give financial assis- because the bankers are expericnciDi tance to the Government of Tamil- certain structural limitations inhibiti- Dadu which has introduced nutritiou! ing them from playin& a liberal anti mca)s scbeme at an approximate cost speedier role in this sphere. of Jl'. 200 crores a year which provides nutritiou! noon meals for As a special request, the Gover.- about 83 lakhs of chi Idren wi thin the ment may be pleased to take up the pre- aae Iroup of 3 to 15 years up to X posal sent by tbe Tamilnadu Oovera- itaDdard. ment for Jayina underground tube rail- way in the city of Madras i. .r•• r t. The Government of India has not relieve traffic conlcstio•• includ,cd Iny of the districts from Tamilnadu in the List of Zero In- I am thankful te the lat. Pri.. dustria Districts 00 the ground that Minister, Mother ladra 'aanelhi, ._. tbe diatric.ts in Tamilnadu are very appointed the ~rkaria Commillioa ~ Ii. and that they are ' ....r 1"'" 'ia" "t~ ".... compa~d to tbe other distri~ts 10 iato tbo rt.""WP _ JANUAI.Y 22. It., tit, l'residf",t, AM"" 112

(Shri A. C. Shanmugam] villages ; the Tami I Nadu Goveram•• t Centre and the States in the exercise of is implementing the 20 point Program.. efi'ctively to meet its objectives. powers .••

PROF. K. K. TEWARY (Buxar): J am very thankful to the Unioa Mr, Deputy-Speaker, Sir, we are deba- Government for rnentionina the Sir ting a very important rna tter, the Presi. Lanka issue in the President's Address. dent's Address. but the Treasury Benc- Sir I am pained to point out the hes are vacant. At least one Cabinet inhuman killings of Tamilians in our Minister must he present in the neighbouring country, Sri Lanka. House. Please direct that a Minister There the TamiJians are ruthlessly, me- reilessJy masseard, tortured and butche- be present here. red. The barbaric killing and rapiDI SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAHI of Tamil ladies in Sri Lanka have (Begusarai) A message should be shocked and injured the feelings of sent. not only the people of Tami) Nadu but also the peop]e in the rest o( coun- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: '\. es; I try. One hon. Member, while addres· am sending. sing the House, has said that this is purely Sri Lanka's internal affair. Sri SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAHI: purely, this is not an internal affair There must be some Cabinet Minister of Sri Lanka ; the persons affected by on rolter duty. these atrocities of Sri Lankan Armed Forces are only Tamil .. speaking people, they are having marriage connections PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Please with the Tamils in India; also they find out, Sir, who is supposed to be originated from India. In Tamil bert. Nadu, dai1y, the relations of Sri Lanka Tamils are shedding not only tears but SHRI A. C. SHANMUGAM: The also blood from their eyes. States have to be more autor omous having sufficien t and enough powers to promote the welfare of tbe people at Feelings of all Tamilians are that Jarge. I request further that the their own brothers are butchered and Central Government may persuade the their own sistt!rs are raped by the Sin- Commission to give its report at an ha lese Army men. early date.

Yoths of 15 to 35 years are daily Within the lim ited State powers, the bei ng tortured and burnt alive by tbe Tamil Nadu Chief Minister, Hon. Shrj Sri Lanka's Army. This geneocide M.G. Ramachandran. as a mass leader, shauld be stopped immediately by the launched serveral welfare schemes Sri Lanka Government. which provided succour to the poor and the villagers. Those are: nutritious noon meaJ scheme upto High School child- The Sinhalese Army say that only ren; free electrici ty for hut-dwellers ; tbe Tam if Ee lam Tigers are beiDa free electricity for irrigation to small ki lied. This is totally false. InnG- farmers; free dboti and saree (or cent Tamils, both women and children laDdleu labourers; 18,000 essential are also heing butchered. With your commodities sbops in vi Hages under kind permission, I am handfn. over co-operatjve departments; higber se- the photo.. copiea of the Sri Laaka condary education ~as been started in Tamils who were barbarically kiU .. tbe villages of Tamil Nadu; six Uni· and burnt alive by tbe Sri WDU versities and more professional coJlcacs Armed Forces. The photos ma, .. Ilave been started in • short span; • banded over to the Pdllle Mill."r 2"'.crorel self-sufficieat scheme in tbo tbroulb yoU, So far they have not stopped the peaceful way, she resorted to armed IBUS killings of inn('cent Tamils action. I am of the opinion that the Itot -they have started picking out fis- right way of paying homage to sucla Ia.rmen from the Indian waters and a great leader is not only to impJe- ,uttins them to death. Thanks to the ment the policies and programmes Prime Minister who has taken stern she cherished but 1 would make a • Olion on the Sri Lankan Navy when request to my colleagues that tho Intic• til., ontcred the Indian territorial House and all those who beliove i. ".ters and were harassing our fisher- democracy will have to take a pled,. .'0. Timely decision was taken last to see that these political assauiaa- week by th: Indian forces. They ar. tions are put an end to in furturc. reeted seven Sri Lankan naval men in Indian waters. This action of the Go. While expressing happinelS fet v.rnment gave a lot of hope to India, adopting the cherished policies of tIM .ur fishermen in the State and also to areal' leader, I admire the yOUDJ the Tamil Nadu people. leader, Shri Raj i v Gandhi, in expr••• - ing his views on the speedy imp.... My humble and firm - suggestion to mentation of the progra1l111HS aael this hone House is that the Indian policies of Madam Gandhi. Government should even use its Armed Porces, if Sri Lanka continue its bar- While appreciating the measures ~aric activi ties. taken by the Government in reaard to procurement, 1 am of the opinion Further I request that every prudent that the expenditure on procurement, Indian's duty is to protect the interest transport, storage and distribution and ef Sri Lankan Tamils and take up a lso the middleman's commission can their cause to find dura bk ami ty in be reduced a lot by allowina the l

In Spite 01 the deliberate and open thr.ats 10 her life, our late leader, As rightly pointed out in the &brimati Indira Gandhi with a long President '. Address there can be no -periencc and patience, gave ample room for complacency. InformatioD time to tho aaitators and their must reach the viJJagers reaardiq IUppo~ters when th~y brought and tbe export PQtential of different kept • Jot of arms in a tempJe which products or items and for coovertiDI It ....Dt for people to 10 and pray to the produce into tbe product w.ell 4Iod .ael when tbey did not come to is suitable for export. GOVCl111Dlill J. riJlal ,at~ .f scuHa, the iuu, ia a .ust tat. ade,uatc IICUURI to Ii,. [Ibri K. s. 11ao] their own ability to undertake Ii pro- aecessary facilities to all the States fession on their own with neceS!lry for export. In this context I may Financial or other assistance from mention, for example, the need for Government and not to seek Govern- conversion of Hyderabad Airport as ment jobs. an international airport. This will facilitate increasing the foreign The stand taken by the Govern .. earnings to a very great extent and ment to give priority in regard to the this will help us in exporting commo" welfare and cultural development of .ities like egg, meat, vegetables etc. women and in other respects whicb, is highly commendable, enough knowted- While expn. ssing great admiration ge through courses, training, etc, in the for the speedy implementation of the fields like electronics, interior decorati"on, .to point programme I wish to point foreign languages, Stenography. ttlt- Gut that the quantum of all'Ocation communication etc. may be provided can be increased still further. the poor freely by the Government to make use of people of this country need mainly almost 40~~ of the unutilised capacity financial assistance at lower rates of of women in this country. interest in support of their hard work to increase production at lesser costs While appreciating the emphasis on in thereby reducing unemployment dustrial life development and c1eam pubJie problem. life made by this Government under tbe leadership of Shri Rajiv Gandhi, I wish I also request the Government to point out that, consider.ing the large to bring new schemes wi th necessary youth force in this country, necessary subsidies to instal TV sets at least training faci Ii ties may be provided alona in every village and panchayat office wi th necessary financial assistance, in to start with, spreading later on to all order to help th~ youth organisations to hamlets where the weaker sections are sta rt cottage indus tries etc. By this not living. This will enlighten and educate only will the unemploym~nt problem be the public and improve the conditions solved but they will be increasing their er their lives. own income as well as the national in- come. This will bring great prosperity to While appreciating the proposed 'he nation. measures to provide basic need like tlrinking water, shelter ~tc. to the needy, I am of the opinion tha t enough Lastly. I have great confidence tbat measures can be taken up to assist the Goveamment under the leadership of the various voluntary organisations our dynamic, pragmatic leader, Shri living necessary assistance so that Rajiv Gandhi, who is result .. oriented, they may help in the efforts of the will achieve the targets as expected at Government by producing them at great speed and fulfil the grtat hopes lelser cost. I do feel that by giving which the people have on hi! leader- I'rominence to reducing the time of ship. completion of all the irriga ti on and ether projects ·we will be able to do In this context, with the little expe. more good to the people than laying rienee I have of this Parliament. I would foundations for New projects. In this like so rna ke a request to my colleagues way we can improve the prosperity of tn the opposi tion to work constructively, tti, nation very fast. to make constructive criticism. Const .. ructive criticism is always admired and While appreciating the proposed well-received. But, instead of puttilll a reforms in administration, judiciary problem or an opinion one by ODe I .5 we)) as education my requist to tbe have observed. tha t the Opposilioo Government is that the reforms sbould Members, perhaps with a view to see fhat "such where students coming out of their own opinion is considered 'lid iatitutions must have confidence in heard by the Speaker Ind th. Het.... , 'f ' • -'.. ;- t1 t ANtI.. ~J r/ld"k, •• MAGHA 2, J. (SALf) ate cre&tin, hi.vOC and in this way they Itu been mentioned tha t we achieved .re neither serving their own cause Dot a area t success in the field of agricul- &t t~e people. 'It constructive criticism is tural production, the production of made by Members in the House or thr· crude petroleum increased by 121 per oUlb letters to the Government I do not cent and th~re was an increase in tb, think this Government under the leade- industrial production upto 24 per cent rship of Shri Rajiv Gandhi will hesitate during the last five years. These to Coosider it and implement programm- achievements were made under dif- es useful to the public, which will help ficult and exacting circumstances. Dur- the people of this eountry. ing two and half years' rule of the Janata Party, our country's economy had shat- tered completely, Shrimati Indira Thank you very much for ~ivinl me Gandhi took over the reins of the tbis opportunity to offer my views on administration at a time when people the President's Address. were hankering after posts and tryina it to grind their own axe. But for her, 14.00 brs would have been very difficult for anyone else to make the country strong in such { Trallslali on J difficult circumstances. Although we had faced so much harpship, yet we decided to celebrate the year 1985 as SHRI PRA TAP BHANU SHARMA (Vidisha) Mr. D.!puty Speaker, Sir, I International year of the Youth. The rise to express my views on ttle Motion people of the country chose a young- man, Shri Rajiv Gandhi, as their lea- of Thanks on the President's Address. W. der, keeping in view his quality of all know that th= year 1984 was a year leadership, his capacity to work, his of challenges and tragedies. During the lense of determination and put the year. Shrimati Indira Gandhi, a great responsibility of maintaining the unity leader of oue country, was assassinated and integrity of the country and fur- treacherously. A conspiracy by some thering the principles and the ideals extremists and terrorists to disinteg- followed by Shrirna ti Indira Gandhi on rate the country was hatched during his shoulders. While expressing their this year. Our beloved leader laid views, some of the Members have stated down her life to protect the uoity and that they were not able to appreciate integrity of the country. She did not the massive mandate given by the yield to the threats of the extre- people to him. I have nothing to say mists. Though she is not about it. The facts are before the amoDgst us today, yet the efforts people. No political party has so far made by her to strengthen and make received such a massive mandate in the country self-reliant cannot be' for- our country after independence and if ,otten. the opposition parties fail to accept this mandate we are helpless. It is 1at'.82 hr. nothing but bankruptcy of their wis- dom. (SHRI SHARAD DIGHE in the ChoirJ I would also like to submit that the achievements of our sixth-five Year Plan, " was under her leadership that India a mention of which bas been made in could achieve a place in the internatio- the Address of the Hon. President, have nal forum. All the poorest families got been possible, especially due to I.~D.P. Iuccour during her regime. It was under N.R.E.P., R.L.E.G.P., and other »ro- ber dynamic leadership that India ac- leamme! that were formulated and im.. cepted the challenges and came out I'iemented for helping the poor people .u=eutu). . The achjevements made and uplifting the people livin. belew the last five yean have been well the poverty line, with the blesst .. ef '-'Ill__tined in tM Adelre,s. 1t eur lat. Prime Minister, Smt, lBtira ii~ Motion o/1ItanIcI0" JAMUAI.Y 22, 1985

[Shri Pratap Bhanu SlW'ma] the eircumstan~s leadina to the a.aasi- (tandhi during the last 5 years. If one nation of Indira Gandhi and the struill. and a half crore people of our country she bad made. All these points should have been lifted above the poverty line be included in the nationll educatioa and lakhs of people in 'rural areas have policy. been provided with employm~nt opport- unities under N.R.E.P. ani R.L.E.G p., It is also true that our educatio. we would like that all these programmes policy should be job "oriented and for this should be accorded priority in the purpose it is essential that vocational Seventh Five Year Plan, so tha t we may training institutions should be opened take the slogan of 'food work and pro- in every district and our Prime Mini.ter duction for aU', given by our esteemed has gi ven an assurance that a Centra) Indiraji, to the rural areas and the huts School would be set up in each .. district. of the lDoor people in our country and We would like that urgent steps shoo". implement these programmes successfully also be taken in this direction. during the next 5 years. With these words, I thank the Hon. The most important thing which is President for highlighting these impo- needed today is that we shall have to rtant achievements in his Address, as pay more attention to the implementa- these achiev~ments would serve as the . tion of all these programmes like the new guidelines which the Governm.nt N.R B.P. or R.L.E.G.P. or J.R.D., have set before the people of the ~oun­ which are presently being implemented try for their task ahead during the next through a small machi nery at block level five years. , in coordination with banks and officers in the administration. We have failed [Entlish] here. There can only be two causes of our failure and the unsuccessful imple- BEGUM ABDULLA. mentation of these programmes, viz., (Anantnag) : Mr. Deputy- either the officers could not understand Speaker, Sir, I welcome the Pre.ideot's and implement the programmes properly concern for national unity and inte.. a- er they might have been corrupt. We tion. In fact, that should be the cea- would like that in pursuance of the calJ cern of all Indians irrespective of calt., liven by our Hon. Rajiv Gandhi for colour and creed. administrative reforms and the promise made for a clean administra tion, all the We accept the massive .mandate that efticers working at the gross root level, the people of India' have liven to Shri town level and block level should be Rajiv Gandhi. We hope, he will IUC_tI made efficient by giving them tra ining in leading India to greater heilbts .r for implementing these programmes and progress and prosperity. they be instructed to discharge their duties honestly t so tha t the benefit of We expect that Mr. Gandhi a04 lais these programmes could reach the poor party will accept the fact of ma.live people for whom they have been formu- mandate that the people of J&K have lated. liven to the National Conference. Lastly, I would like to say somethinl in regard to the education policy. Today The ·puppet regime compras,n, • the need is being felt in the country for pack of defectors installed by CoD,res. !lavina a national education policy and (I) in Jammu and Kashmir Stale canDot a discussion on this issue this regard has rule over a people who do not reltos. been loing on for many years. Therefore their trust in it. today our present young generation and tbe comio, generation must be fully The defector reaime bl. promote. enli.htoned about the grea t perSODS who the worst kind of corruption. a p.r.))'- ..... dedicated ·their lives for the cause lis in admini.tratioD and ,rave ".teri... ., tho nation. how the freedom Bahters ratioD in law and ord.r situatioD I. , •• aeIli.YH i.4cpc8dence .f the cou.try. itate .... ita c •• ti.ua.. il ..rtafal, ·.trim.otal to the interest of the nation and aspirations of the people of t_ Tlle defector rt:lime must be dismissed State by withdrawing its support to tb.

11 in keepinl with the highest traditions of puppet rcaime . ••mocracy in national interest immedia. '. t.ly and elections to the Jammu and Tourist trade in Jammu Kashmir I.e.hmir Assembly should be organised & has suffered unprecedented shortfall aJoDlwith other States in March. That during the last two years. With tb. is the least the peop)f of Jammu and installation of the Shah Regime after Ka.bmir Stat. expect from tb. Central 2nd July 1984, people have Jost not only Government. their basic and fundamental rights, but due to imposition of curfew and poli. tical suppression, tourists could not Anti-defection Bill which is goin, to visit Kashmir. These developments be brought in the Parliament is welcome have rendered artisans, 1abourers, texi iheikh Mohammad Abdullab did pione- and house-boat owners, hote1iers, etc. eriDI work by bringing anti-defection jobless. Last year, the hail-storm alae Bill in the Assembly and he got it passed took a big tol1 of the standing crops. A by tbe State Leiislature. In fact be High Level D~legation comprising ex- had wider interes, of the who1e nation perts was rushed to the VaHey from the in view. This was his dream to pass Cen tre to assess the si tua tion, especia1Jy such an Act. Government have decided in the tourism sector. Very meagre aid to bring such a Bill and though be lated, is being provided to pony-wal1abs and we welcome it. It is most immoral that Band C class houseboat owners, while • Member of Parliament or Assembly others have been e}(c1uded from any should defect and betray his party. This such relief or compensation. The bigh sort of tioor crossing and betrayal of power delega tion from the Centre has the people's mandate has given birth to failed to meet the expectations of the many evils including corruption etc. in people. It has not made any recom- the body politic of the country. mendation for measures to compensate or uplift the hard-hit handicrafts, hollS' boat and hotel industries. Valleys whose Hardly twelve Members defected on economic survival depends upon tourist 2nd July 1984 in my State. They should trade needs Centre's care and attention liav. forfeited their membership because towards its tourist potential which need of the anti-defection bill, already passed encouragement and investment in money ~y the State Legislature, It is most and skill. Thous.Jnds of young people unfortunate that local Congress in the educated and uneducated are added State should encourage these defectors every year to the list of unemployed. il.aded by O.M. Shah in forming the Centre must invest magnanimously in so-called government by cxtendin& the industrial uni ts like H.M.T. watch support of 26 MLAs. factory which is already showing wonderful regults so that employment opportunities are increased and frustra- tion is removed from the younger gene- Jammu & Kashmir National Con- ration in the Valley. ference h 1S defea tcd candida les of tbe rulinl clique by a thumping majority, proving to hilt that defectors have no place in the democratic system. Th. PROF. K. K. TEWARY: Mr. Chair- result of the recent Parliamentary Poll man, in deference to the age of til. sbows that aU the defectors have lost in hone member and background, I did not their respective Assembly segments, Th. object to her mentioning her party's people's verdict has Ion. against the name in relation to defection and an ••fectors, the usurpers of democracy. that. But, I think, in all fairness, the The, people have rejected these defectors name of her party should be expunaed .f tbI Jammu 4 K:asbmir State. The from the proceedings. It was a. i ...... 1 .atre m\1$t show respect to the feclio,s matter. (Interraptlons) JANUAIlY 2a, 1,.5

MR.. CHAIRMAN: We will check country has a riaht to know tb. cireum- up the proceedinas and then decide. stances and the conspiraCJ beida. abi. murder. This enquiry should Dot .,. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHURY prolonged and the facts shouJd be re- (Ka twa) : It 5hould not be expunaed. vealed. Indiraji has been raised to th. position of an immortal in the hittor,. and for lenerations come to and as SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI Ion. as the world remains, she will be hono- (Srioagar) : The fact is that 26 MLAs ured and respe~t.d by tile entire plopl. had aiven support to that defection. ef the world. (InterrJIptions) Shri S.M. Shah wal liven support by 26 MLAs. Sir, gO tbe 31st O.:t.~r, J,.. at (Interrupt ions) that moment er horror, of that ahock. when everybody was spe)] bound the only PROF. P.J. KURIEN (ldukki): I lolace to the Dation was tbe anDounce- support the Motion of Thanks on the ment that Sbri Rajiv Gandbi would be PresidenCs Address moved by Prof. JeadiDI the nation. Within a .bent spaD Ranga. I am not interested in this of time be has proved his mettle. At controversy raised by the hon. member that time wben one'. own motber _al from J & K that whether the son should Jyina dead, when one's own mother's rule the State or the Son in-Law should dead body was tbere b. waa movin. rule the State. I am sure, my previous througb the riot-strick. Delhi an" speaker, hon. member from J & K will place with the message of pea~e and try to settle the quarrel between her wi thin hours he could control the: riots. son-in-law. That will solve the pro- He could control his feeling., his perso- blem. nal (eeJings, and rise abovo all that and take the interets of the country al tb. SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI ; belt interests. With your permission, this is most un- fortunate; this should not have been Sir, it is no wonder that the coun- .aid. There is no question of any try has given him biaaest mandate. It Quarrel between the mother and the is a recognition of his proven ability daughter. It is a political issue and it wi thin a short span of time and abo to should be tackled as such his dynamic and youthful leadership. (Interruptions) This is also a fact that the people have discarded the opposition as they arc fed AN HON. MEMBER: It should be up with the disunity and disarray of the withdrawn, in all fairness, because we opposition and also their unprincipled had voted for the candida te and not for a pproacb. We expect, and tbe country the son ...... expects, that under the dynamic Jeader- ,hip of Shri Rajiv Gandhi we will move (Interruptions) from progress to prOlreS!. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: The year 1984 was a very tragic year for the AN HON. MEM.B.R: Prom pillar country. That year saw the dastardly to post. assassination of our beloved Prim. Minister, Shrimati Indira Gandhi, one PROP. p.J. KURIEN: TIH ,ear who fought during her whole life for 1984 has also .cen another tt.,edy. the unity and integrity of the country, This traledy hal no parallel' in the one who fought for the down.trodden history. I mean tbe Bhopal Iraled,. aot only in India but the entire world, on. It has been widely dileu.sed her•• who fought for peace, for avoidina war, I have only one point to mat.. The one who was respected and beloved by .overnment should 'par. ftf) effort. 100 million peoJ'le of this country. In te ... that Iu.h tr•• edilS, .r. Bot ,,- tit ·President', Address, it is sai4 that , ...ted, Suck l\'ea" .,.,14 ••, h In enquiry is bein, conducted- Thi. ~ted. 225 M ol;on of Thanks on MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) the President', Addrell 22G

The President has narrated tbe on like this, wha tever we genera te will progess in the country during the last be neutralised. Just after Indepen. year. On every front we see progress. dence we were 350 million and today One of the opposition members was we are 700 million. Wha tever progress trying to quote statistics and disprove we have made, that has been neut- the progress made. I would only re- ralised by this growing population. quest him to compare it with their performance from 1977 to 1980. In the period from 1977 to 1980 the wheel Government should Jay emphasis of progress was going back and in on correcting tbe regional imbalance. every front we were going back and Now, when we go for industires, we say lagging behined. But since 1980 that in some areas we cannot give in- onwards on every front there is pro- dustries because there is no infrastruc- Iress. On the agricultural front we ture, railway line, road, etc. Infras- surpassed a target of one hundred tructural development should be fint and SO Inillion tonnes of foodgrains. recast so tbat in evey area especially It is a record production and the backward areas where is no railway Government deserves congratulations Hne, road. etc. they should get it first. for that. On the industrial front there Afterwards, there can be industrial is the development, in infra-structural development of that area. industries here is development, in sc- ience and technology; there is de- velopment, we sent expedi tions to the It my constituency, Idukki. Antarctica, we sent satel1ites to orbit there is no industry and not a sinsJe in the space, and so in all these sectors km of railway line. I would suggest the country has made remarkable that emphasis should be laid on in- progress. frastructural development of these backward areas. In oil production our increase is 121 per cent last year. I am sorry that the Opposition has no eyes to see [Trails fat ion J this progress. They always see the dark side of it. Even though we have SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS progressed in these fields, we have let (Bhilwara): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I to march much more distance. Un- support tbe Motion of Thanks on employment, especiaJJy unemployment the President's Address. moved by hone of youth, that is a problem that we Rangaji. have to solve. Lakhs of our youth are unemployed. We should have Mr. Chairman, Sir, you must have more industries. Whatever industries taken note of various comments made we have, they should be employment by the Members of the Opposition oriented, rather than capital oriented. parties, especially the Members of tbe Communist Party (M) in the House in I suggest that we should give regard to 'the massive mandate importance to the electronics industry. given by the people to the Congress I am happy that the Gov~rnment is party and the leadership of Shri giving emphasis to it. But tbat is Rajiv Gandhi. Last time, when I was not enougb because througb electro.. in Parliament, I had been re- nics indnstry we can give more employ- peatedly saying that the Communist ment to the unemployed youth and at Party (M) was losing its footina the same time, it is less capita) orien- and it would be completely wiped out ted and less pollutant. gradually. This time 16 members be. longing to our party ha ve been elected About population control, there and perhaps the number of their mem- is already a measure. But much bers elected to this House is 18 or 20. more emphasis is required to be aiven But in the next Assembly elections, the bee_oAf! if the pODulatinn pf"owth Roes Communist Party (M\ will deflnitelY_ 227 Motion 0/ Thanks on JANUARY 22, 198.5 'Ise Pr,sldent's Addrlss 22~

[Shri Girdhari La! Vyas] this debate should have requested disappear from West Benaal an_d some wj~ men to explain aU these . the people will completely 19se Ilolicie" but they only talked about the their faith in this Party. They boa~t e1ectioQ8 and the reasons on account much but do nothing. (Interruptions) of which massive mandate has been I know that five minutes have been ~iven to the ,Coogress. This massive man- aUotted to me. If you extend my time 'date was given either due to the poli- only then I can discuss an the points, cies formula~ed and implemented by otherwise there is no use wasting Sbrimati Indira Gandhi or it was time ..•.•• given to strengthen the leadership of Rajiv Gandhi or to wipe out Marxists SHRI BALKAVI BAlRAGI or the Communists and other opposi .. (Mandsour) Mr. Cha:rman, Sir, don ~rties. They said that Cong- when a lion roars, does not care it ress got negative notes. But I say for the ben. that the opposition parties have been SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VY AS : I wiped out completely. It is they who got the neg_tive votes in 1977. We am not an Indisciplined person. I shall take my sea t as soon as the lot only the positive notes. This massive mandate was given to Rajiv Gandhi HOD. Chairman directs me to do so. for the unity and integrity of the c01,lDtry. The Marxists have neither the I was submi tting that there was will nor the capaci ty to understand another party in this House that used t_his fact. They have destroyed West to boast much in the last Parliament. Beoaal and DOW they want to destroy Their leader, Shri Atal Bihari Vaj- India. They have not spent the entire payee used to say that tbey would money given to them by the Govern- from such and such type of Govern- ment of India. They asked for more ment in the country and that they had funds and they were given that money been supported by the people and but they rspent it on non-productive peasants and they would get their support works and as a result the problem this time also. Although we did not of over-draft has arisen. (Interruptions) boast like them but you ba ve seen whom Such a situation was created by them. the people and the peasants have sup- About the West BengaJ, I had stated ported. We have a family planning earlier also that the Central Govern- I)ogan in our country, viz. "Ham ment should dismiss the Communis t Do Hamare Do" (a norm of two Government of West Bengal. But children). Similarly, the strength of it was not done and the poor people of Bbartiya Ianta Party ha~ also been West Bengal arc suffering and the reduced to two Members only. There Congress cannot provide them any help. is another Party DMKP which is They are spendiJlg aJ I the money to called by different names. The num- benefit their party cadres. This set up ber of their members io this House is should come to an end. only three. They have fully observed the family plan 1 iog norms. Th:, means that they did oot w.nt In his Address, the President has population to increase aod givea extensive data regarding the whatever may be their views on progress made by the country, but populati on, they have at Jeast observed they cannot see it as they have put on this principle in Parliament •• dark: glasses. They are not aware of tbe prolress made by India in PROF. MADHU fDANDAVATE various fields and the pJans being fra. (aajapur): But you have made a med by the Government for the ad- departure from the National Family vaacement of the country. T~ey are PlanniDI Policy of the Co~.relS. not aware of the increased production SHltI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS: of foodarains. In their State, pro- Such wat the arra.em~nt ma~o by th~ dM;tiOD of foodarains bas decreatect but op,ositiqa. The ~arxj.tl wbp JDitiaJed it bat ~n~roased ia the relt or Indi. 229 Motion of ThIJnk, on MAGHA 2. 1906 (SAKA) the President', Addre" 2JD

It 4,~ haP.PCfled on account of their logy or any economy prevailing in the wrona. p

.[Shri Piyus Tiraby] problems of Punja b and Assam. only the Government take some ener- Very dastardly acts of two Sikhs or getic steps. the anti·Indian utterances by a few Sikhs inside and outside the country But they are not thinking on this do not mean that the entire Sikh com- line. So, whatever is said on (he munity is anti-national. As a matter political platform is not going to help of fact the Sikh community as a whole much, because black money is operat- is a very important community of ing all around. Therefore, the first India. We cannot forget th'! sacri. thing for the new Government must be fices that Community has made parti- to get rid of the blackmoney so that cularly for the freedom of this country. they are able to get India on a pure line of political life. Assam is the sister State of West SHRI TARUN KANTl GHOSH Bengal. We have nothing but love (Barasat): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support the Motion of thanks and affection for the State of Assam. to the President's Address. This is I am sure the entire country will be my first speech in the Parliament behined our Prime Minister in his and I take this opportuni ty through you to convey my respect and good a ttempt for solving the problems of wishes to all the Members of this Punjab and Assam. House,

I come from the State of West Ben- Now J come to the unemployment gal which once wa s a very prosperous problem. I think the main thing and advanced State in India. Today, without attacking anybody, I may say that needs to be done is rapid rural that it has become a very backward State. development with accent on employ- For the last decade, there has been ment, as also through rapid advan- no development work in my State. cement of smalL.scale industries. The Unemploymen t has risen to a ~tagge_ rioa proportion. I am sure my friends only difficulty is that we have not sitting here, whether they belong to the yet been able to compartmentalise the Marxist Communist Party or to the role of the smaH, medium and large CPI or any other Party, wi)) agree with me that there is a need for sorne- scale industries. It it natural that the thine special for solving this un- small scale industries cannot com- emp10yment prob~em in West Bengal. pete with big industries. So, we should Not onJy in West Bengal, but I would 'say in all the Eastern States of India see how best the small-scale industries as wen as the North-Eastern States can be made to function as ancila· of India also something special has to ries of the big industries, Therefore, be done because these states are backward in comparison to other if we really want to solve this pro- states of India. There is a dire need bJem of unemployment we will have to for doing something very speciaJ so have a rational inddstrial policy. Not that they can go forward in their economic development. only that, in the presnt.day world the tecbnogical development and advance.. The Ptesident has said many things with which we fully agree. The most ment has become so much that unless important thing is what our Prime our industries also adopt the new Minister is trying to do. It is the technoloaies. it will be very difficult national intearation. The President to have proper industrial develop. hat annoDnced tba t the new Govern- ment would try its best to solve the ment in this country. 2J) MotJ(Jn 0/ Thaw Oil MAGHA 2. 1906 (SAKA)

While talking about industrial de- PROF. K.K. TEWARY (Buxat) : velopment we cannot lose sight of tbe Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to speak importance of power. It is very im- about the document of destiny, .bi.· portant. I do not know the position is the President's Address, and sup- of power in other States, but today port the Motion of Thanks to him. in Delhi also we had a power failure this morning. In West 'Bengal also it Sir, this Address refers to the Or- is very bad. weiJian year, the nightmares -- the ordeal. Tha t is over, and a ...' MR. CHAIRMAN: Please con- India is born in 1985 with tbe electi01W clude. to our Parliament and with the electi.. of a new being colossus, that is, RaJi\' SHRI TARUN KANTI GHOSH: Gandhi, to the office of the Prime' Kindly give me another few minutes Minister of India. time because it is my first speech in tbe House. So, I want that the power problem should be given priority. Sir, during the discussioDs tbat I Otherwise it is impossible to solve the have been very carefulJy listening" t~ unemployment problem. have been persistent requests and .... tures from both sides, for an atmosp- here of cordi ali ty and uni ty between 1 fully support the Government's the Treasury Benches and the Op- foreign policy. Russia has been a posi tion to shoulder the responsibilit, proved friend of our country. So we that has befallen this House. But there must have very good relations with had been trends which I have takeJa Russia, there is no doubt about it. with a lot of disquiet. Sir, there were But at the same time we must try to attempts which were made towards develop economic cooperation J\ th the end of 1983. The references in America l As far as our neighbouring this documen t had been made to the countries are concerned, the effort of growth of exteremism and secessio nist our Prime Minister to have very good movement. I think secessionism and relations has also the support of the the protagonists of secessionism are not entire continent. si tting quiet and we should Dot tate this challenge lightlY, I am sorry to remark that from the trends revealed One thing to which I would like to by the major Opposi tion Parties which draw your attention is about the nuc- are now reduced to this helpless sta- lear bomb that is now beiDg attempted tus in this House. it a ppears they have in Pakistan. We should try to stop it not got over their bang-over whida here, we mu 5t take care of this very was a kind of a pathological hatred unholy thing \\hich is a danger to the for Indira Gandhi and one-point pro- entire region of India and also to iramme of opposing anything that is South-aast Asia. Here I want to say proposed by the Government. that our Government should move in this matter, I do not want our Go- vernment to 10 in for atomic homb. Mr. Chairman, one by one I will We want to us~ atomic power for ser- bring to your notice and to the notice ving humani ty, not for destruction. In o! this august House the trends I any case, I b<: Ii eve tha t the manda te have been able to gather from tbe that is given for Rajiv Gandhi and talks of the Opposition leaders. Un- the Congress is a mandate for service fortunately the worthy barrister, who to tbe nation and to the people and was the spokesman of the CPI (M) through you, I want the cooperation Partv0# in the House , is missing, he is not• of the entire Opposition so that together present in this House, and for his ~.;. we can build' a better India and a bet- nefit and for the benefit of his Part.1 ter future for the FaeratioD. Tbanli I would like to ten him that aU t~. '0\1, Sir. sinister campaign start" joI1 aftW~" 1J5 Motion of Thanks 0" JANUARY 22, 19~5

[Shri Tarun Kanti Ghosh] its strength in the 21st century, a shape of new India, of an India which election, after the massive mandate is awakening, which is united and liven to Rajiv Gandhi is bound to which is rrosperous and will march fail. ahead under the leadership of Mr. Rajiv Gandhi. The country will march Sir Rajiv Gandhi today--.. whether ahead and all hurdles put OD its way people 'agree or disagree-is the symbol by interested quarters whether they Qf the Indian nation. He symbolises are people here the inside the country above aJl the indomitable will of the or outside, their mentors outside, will be faced with resoluteness and with Indian nation to continue to be one, to determination. And I want to tell .~ntinue to fight against forces of dis- this august House that the Party which ruptioD, anarchy and destabilisation. And Rajiv Gandhi, Sir, on numerouS has led this country, which has fought for freedom for decades and . after occasions , after his election, has shown. overwhelming reverence to the sanctity freedom Jed this country from distinc. tion to distinction will see that tbe ef the political system and I think legacy of Mahatma Gandhi, and the this would have been appreciated legacy of Pandit Nehru and Indira by the enlightened among the Opposi- Gandhi does not go in vain. Sir, as tion. But this has been spurned and a Party, I can assure the Opposition, the sJogan has given, very sinister, very we have not allowed grass to grow subversive slogan has b.:en given, na- under our feet and we are prepared mely, that this ejection, this mandate, to fight ti II the very end we are sure this unflinching, unequivocal, full-bloo. with the support, solid support ded response of the Indian peopl~ to of the people of India, the patriotic the India's uni ty, has been tried to be and nationalist mass whose backlash explained in d very subversive fashion, vou have seen in the massive mandate- in a very subversive way that it is the it was no Hindu backlaksh, it was result of Hindu backlash. Sir, I want patriotic backJash and with that sup- to assert that it is the re-assertion of port, the patriotic and nationalist the Indian nation to the cbaHenges, people of I ndia cutting across a II dis- to the grim tragedy tha t the nation tinctions of caste. religion and passed through and the heaviest price region-we wiJ1 try to save the honour that this country could have given, of the country and will go ahead. was exacted from the nation in terms of 1he ghastly, most treacherous and (lnler' up lions ) perfidious murder of the mother Mr. Chairman, Sir, references of the nation, Shrirnati Indira €iandhi have been made to rigging. I will not go into the details of such false and malicious charges. As I have said. Sir, the Opposi tion leaders say-:- this is a delibera te campa ign to nul- I think, it has come out all over In lify the verdict of the vast Indian multi- tbe Press also-that it was a sympathy tute which have given the Congress wave. I am sorry to say it is mediocre this massive mandate and J am sure Journalese. It was no sympathy wave. will do it in future also. There- It was a challenge that aroused the fore, I am striking this note of people of India and people felt that caution. what the country required was not sympathy but full· blooded support. It I am all for cooperation with the is the determination of the people, the Opposition; an atmosphere of con- resoluteness of the people to uphold frontarion must be brought to an end. the unity and oneness of this nation But to ignore the basic thiop, basic and support the Congress which has attitudes, mani fested in pattern of had a biltory of a century now in behaviour of the Opposition leaden 1915.. And this century-old Party and their parries will be only at our reflected will demoDstrate 'will be and peril. 237 M otio1l of Thanks on MAGMA 2, 1906 (SAKA) the President', Addrels 2j,

MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. PROF. K.K. TEWARY: A COD- Member may try to conclude. I clave was held at Vijyawada. When that conclave was held, there was the PROF. K.K. TBWAR Y: It will ADandpur Saheb Resolution before be an injustice to me. I have never them. It must be crys tal clear to every spoken for Jess than 40 minutes in the body who cares to go throuah tlte House. contents of the Anandpur Saheb .R ..o- lutioD and the speeches and the MR. CHAIRMAN : It will be an commentaries galore on the Anandpur injustice to others who are waiting to Saheb ResoJution of the AkaJi leaders speak. that this Anandpur Saheb Resolution is a charter of India's vivisection, PROF. K.K. TEWARY: I would India's dismemberment. When the like to put just a few Questions to the conclave was held, the Anandpur Sabeb opposition. Resolution was there before them. Did our friends On ,tbe Opposition advile I respect Prof. Madhu Dandavate AkaJis, if they were uniting with them, very much. His party spokesman was with a motley crowd that was repre- haranguing Yesterday. I would not have sented at Vijyawada, if they were uni- gone into those details but for the ting with the Akalis to oppose provocation provided by the C.P .M. Indira Gandhi, that they must swear friends and tbe spokesman of the by the Constitution of India, that they Janata Party. He referred to Punjab. must sewear by the unity of Our leader, Shri Rajiv Gandhi~ decla- India and that they must giVe red at the very out~et that his prio- up the Anandpur Saheb Resolution? rity No 1 wiJl b: Punjab imbroglio was that done? (Interruptions) and Ass~m problem and that be will Please don't strain your fraH frame. leave no stone unturned to solve them. Did the the Opposi lion leader ever But a blatantly bJseless charge has advise Akali leaders that unle3s the b~en leveJled against us. I would Anaodpur Sahrb ResoJution was given like to know from the members on up, they will have nothing to do wlth the other side and through this them? House, I would 'lik'.' to pJace it be- fore the country and lh~ people at It was not only in Andhra but large. whether the Opposition parties subsequently the conc!av..:' politics was are rea)y serious about Punjab pro- taken to, of a11 the plac~s, Srinagar .• blem. Does i 1 he in their mouth . to (Inlef"rUPllOnJ) Where did they hold (.on- talk about Punjab? Throughout, claves? It is significant ind~(d. tbey were runni ng with the bare First, it was held in Andhra: t hen, It and hunting with the hounds, was held at Srinagar and it was Their equivocation and their ambiva- Ih.::n held in West Bengal \lllIcrrllp'ions) lence to Punjab problem created the the picture clear. situation like that. This makes ( Interruptions) A reference was made to the conclave politics. The first conclave was held at 15.00 hrs Vijyawada by the freak of .a. J'olHical party. the freak of a pohtlcal pbe- Another important question is how nomenon, called tbe Teluau Desam Prof. Madhu Danda~ate, a Senior which has provided shelter to a lot of Member of the Opposition, has brought friends who are present here in the House together these two stringent demands? (InlerrUplionJ) It is not merely a quirk of history.. The most vociferous demands for improviD, AN HON. MEMBER: He cannot or re-shaping Centre-State relatiODs rofer to a ,onticel party as freak. were raised by the Opposition. The be .. (In""."'O"$) all and-end-all and the summum be... " ..'i • r JA»UA~Y 21, 1'85 tprof. K. K. Tewary] and baseless. We are not here just to listen to all those allegations ('xceediGa o.f Abli Dal demands is the Anaodpur his time-limit. You have to contain Sabeb .Resolution. The Anandpur Saheb him. You have to restrain him also. &csolution is definitely separatist and (Interruptions) ~ionist in clear terms. And this resolution was being hawked around, AiR CHAIRMAN: The time he is not only in India but atl over the taking is from the Congress-side . • ~)lld, in foreign countries and in the eGUntries which are inimical to us. You taow their names. When this resolu- PROF. K. K. TEWARY : I do not tie. and the items of the Resolution treat the hone Members lead as dump- .ere liven wide publicity, Opposition ing ground. I do not see dumping traces declared a war on the Centre. And, at on their heads. I am merely making the same time, Prof. Madhu Dandavate points. It has happened. The role of perhaps knows it ... (Illterruptions) the Opposition ·is very clear in this Anandpur Saheb Resolution and how it was all done. Listen to me. You will know. It is (Interruptions) not a mere accident that the World Bank brought three publications about India's Centre-State relations, the I am bringing it to the notice of the Opposition that something very serious pattern of economy, the pattern of is still going on. The activities of the revenue sbaring and all these matters. extremists have apparently abated a little but they have not come to an end. According to you, the AkaJi Dal, What have we to do ? is a responsible poIi tical party. My .barge is that the high priests of the Akali Dal refused to condemn the In U. K. for example, against all aJlastly assassination of our Prime international Jaws, agains{ their own Minister. national laws, against the la ws for- mulated by the International Court of Justice, the British Government is still PROF. N. G. RANGA (Guntur): patronising and allowing the extremists Shame, Shame. to hold camps. If you want, I can read out the relevant Jaws from the British PROF. K. K. TEWARY : Did any Constitution. ODe of you say "Henceforth we have Bothina to do with the Akalis. because it is a party which failed and which did MR. CHAIRMAN : Please conclude Dot cendemn the assassination of Prime quickly. Minister" 1 Did it happen? [lnterruptions) PROF. K. K. TEWARY : I am not going into that. But teU me when that The declaration of the Akali DaJ dur- murderous threat by that outlaw, that inl the election came with a clinch- fugitive from law, Jagjit Singh Chauhan, in, and aj.uring finaIi ty. The Aka·lis utilised tbe BBC ? This must have said. They will support the oppoition happened for the first time in the history of civilised world. Where an outlaw parties. from justice,· a fugitive. from justice, ( Interruptions) came on the BBC network. and made an announcement about the impendiJll SHRI S. M. BHATTAM assassinalion of the Prime Minister. (V·ilakhapatnam) I am on a Even after she was shot, tbat man was paint of order. He is not only exceed- allowed again to indu)ae in thil. He. inI hi. time. He is heaping alleaations emlted .pin and made a speech. I 4piatt US which Ire most unwarrlated would Uke to know from this Hou.. 1~1 Motion til Thanks on MAGHA 2, l~(; (SAKA) tlte ~rfsidc"t's Add'~ss 242 through you, Sir, whether any Opposi .. others lose. I have been watching the hon leader raised his voice against it. elections since 1952. There is DO doubt When our planes were hijacked, when that this time Indira Congress bas _ot a the hijackers were getting all the faci- very big majority. But this is not the lities in Pakistan, two Janata Party national congress; it is Indira Congress. leaders were enjoying the hospitality of This is not the Conaress which is 100 Mr. Zia-ul-Haq. You read the speech of years old, it is only 11 years' old Mr. Biju Patnaik. He caIne back and Indira Congress (Interruptions) For- he was all praise for them. This green tunately, I am Dot a Member of the scenario is not yet over. Therefore, 1 Congress party. You are claimi ng that tbis would like to approach the opposition is 100 years old Congress, but it is only with a very constructive mind, with a Indiraji's Congress. While the opposi- mind absolutely open. Nothing should tion parties were mourning the death of happen at the cost of the unity of the Indiraji, the Congressmen made capital nation, the integrity of the na tion ... out of it. Indiraji has died ... (lnterrup- tions) I am speaking in Hindi to make MR. CHAIRMAN: You have taken you understand (InterruptionJ) iufficient time. Please conclude. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Rajapur): You may speak in any PROF. K. K. TEWARY : I wanted language-, they will not understand. to speak on many more things ...

MR. C: Please resume your seat. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY Let others also speak. These people were expressing arief at the death of Indiraji. One of tbe Congress leaders stated that Indiraji had PROF. K. K. TEWARY: I thank died, and that they would ask for .otes you very much. although my speech in her name and once more Indira should have been longer. I wanted to Congress would come to power. We speak on many more points. Anyway, have seen that their leader, Shri Vassot thank you very much. Sathe, who is at present a Cabinet [ Trans/ation] Minister, had stated at a meetinj at Shivaji Park to mourn Indira Gandhi's death. SHRI c. JANGA R~DDY (Hanamkonda) Mr. Chair- man, Sir, first of aJl I would submit 'In the memory of lodiraji, before my collealues that I am daring in the company of Rajiv, stamp will to speak in Hindi. It has been said be put on the Hand.' (/ndiraj; lei yad about us that as the Family Planning mein. Raily ke sath me;,,, Mo.ar /ale6' slogan says we are two Members here hath mein). and I am one of them and I have alone to face you. You are four hundred and Wbat does it mean? ...••• we are only two Members here. Thef(~­ fore, we two Members will have to reply to 400 Members. (lnt~rrllp'ions) SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHAllMA If I speak in Telugu, you won't un- (Vidisba): Stamp will be put 00 derstand. For this very reason I am the Hand and in fact the stamp was put speaking in Hindi so that you may on the Hand. understand. I want that you may un- dorstand my speech. (Illterruptions). If you aet in this manner, then I will SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : am sayilll the .... Ipeak in Telulu, which wi II not be I also thing. You have WOD on aCCouDt of comprehensible to you. (llll~rruptions) Indiraji's death and not on the basil of ideololY. In 197J. Banks were _lia.l- Mr. Chairman, Sir. elections are ised, Privy Purses were aboJiIbed, 11 ...)'1 held and lome people win while ~ , ~4.3 MtJtioit 0/ Thanks on JANUAIl Y 2i, 1985 the Presidtnt·s Addr~IS 244 [Shri Chandupatla Janga Reddy] [English]

nomination papers of Shri Sanjeeva SHRIMATI VIJAYANTHIMALA Reddy were filed, but Shri Giri was got BALI (Madras South): Cinema-star ejected, that was a split in the Congress is also an Indian citizen. What is wron& party; but after that you lost the elec- in it? What about N. T. Rama Rao? tions in 1977 because of your misdeeds during the emergency ...... [Translation]

SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: (Nasik): But again they won the I Admit that cine-star is ejections in 1980. also an Indian citizen, but what I waRt to say is that printing of the photo of SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Krishna side by side WI th the photo of This is what I want to tell lndiraji is unfortunate for the country you that these 400 Members have won and the Congress party. I t is unfor- on the strength of Indiraji ~s sympathy tunate for the Congress. A cinema star wave. When a cine-Star in Andhra knows nothing about it and how is it Pradesh won the election and became proper to draw a comparison between Chief Minister, you compelled Shri Indiraji and a cinema-star. This is what Amitabh Bachchan, Shri Sunil Dutt and I am saying. Can Krishna be com- Smt. Vijayanthimala to contest the elec- pared with Indiraji, this is what I say. tions. You should be ashamed of it. We I am tel ling you that very wrong propa- have seen a poster in which photos of ganda bas been carried on in this way. Indiraji, Shri Rajiv Gandhi and a film- You know what Rajiv Gandhi had star of our State 'Krishna' were printed stated in Visakhapatnam. He said, living them equal prominence. In that waH poster, belo'.\! the photos of 811 [English] these three, the photos of Shri Anjiab and the s}mb01 'Hand' were printed. "NTR is ***Being the Prime Minister The photos of these three were printed of India can he do such kind of pra- to.etber to solicit votes in favour of char H ? Congress. (Interruptions)

SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: Does it behove him '? Telugu Desam party has also won on the same basis (I nlerruptiOlls)

SHRI C. JANGA REDDY ; You have brought a ci nestar [Englisla] on the national level, you have accorded him a status equal to that of SHRI p. R. KUMARAMANGA- Indiraji, you should be ashamed of this. LAM (Salem): Madam Chairman, A cine-star like Krishna has been port- I rise on a point of order. The hone rayed equal to a leader Ii Ice Indiraji, Member should ,ta Ik on the President '5 Address. SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: Shri Rama Rao is also a cine-star. MR. CHAIRMAN: I will request the hon. Member to speak to the SHRI CHANDUPATLA JANGA point. REDDY: He i. a Chief Minister as (Interruptions) . well as a cine-star. I am sayi ng this SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS because the standard of your electioD- MUNSHI (Howarah): Madam Chair- eeriDI has touched such a low ebb. You man, I want a rulina from you for the should f.1 sorry for this, ·",lID," at ordered .,y tbe CIa.ir. 245 M olion '0/ Thanks on

education of new members whether it progress of the country after taking the is permissible in the House to accuse Opposition into confide.ce. any member of the House in terms of his or her profession, status, religion [Engli':Jh] or caste. The hon. Member from the Opposite by accusing a cinema star ill a MR. CHAIRMAN Do not to denigr1!ting manner not only insulted her 10 next point. I wi)) caU the next speaker. but also insulted the electorate who Please conclude. elected her, I request you to expunge j t from the record. [Trans /al ion] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He is insulting even those film stars SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: who are yet to come to the House. . Madam, in the President·5 Address there is a mention about far- (lllterrupt ions) mers. In this connection, through you, I would like to submit to the M~mberl belonging to the Congress Party ...... MR. CHAIRMAN : Please try to avoid such references and speak to the [English] point.

MR. CHAIRlvtAN : I have aI10wed [ Translation1 enoug h time. Please resume your seat. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: I have been listening to [Translation J their speeches for the last three days ... (Interruptions) .. . vegetahJe (cooked with- SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: out spices) has no taste .. (/nterruptions) You wil1 hav~ to think about farmers. Though farmers have not Madam, I was saying how wrong received any assistance from the Govern- propaganda was carried on by the ment yet tbey have sown crops in their Congress. The BJP and the entire land. (irlterruptiolIS) Opposition had opposed the slogan of Khalistan but what propaganda your T. V. and Radio had carried on? The BJP spoke against the Anandpur Slhib MR. CHAIRMAN : Now only you Resolution and even opposed it. but are coming to the point. Please con- you carried 011 a wrong pro;Jaganda. c1ude. Now I want to suggest to the Prime

Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi 9 tha tat [Trans/at i(}fi] least now he should say some good things. The entire Opposition had spoken against that but even then a SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: vicious propaganda was carried on du- I want to draw your atten- ring eJections for catching voks and we tion to one thing that farmers have have no objection to your having been been producting foodgrains and supplyin, returned in such a big numb.!r in the them to the public at large insDite of the way you carried on the propaganda. We fact that Government have failed to have accepted the people's mandate, ensure remuneralive prices for their but at least we want this much that produce and in providing other facilities whatever the Prime Minister bad said to them. The Government should ensure prior to the eJections should be correct. full compensation and remunerative ed by placing true picture of thing~ prices to farmers. There must be re- before the public. We hope that the presentative of farmers in tbe Aaricultural Prime Minister would work for the Prices Commission and aaricultural 247 lIotlOll of Thank, 011 JANUAR. Y .22. 198.5 the J-resid~nt's AdJr". 241

[Shri Chandupatla Janga Reddy] The tbird point is that capita" and social infrastruct~re are also in a very sorry state. In the Presjdent's Addr.cu prices should be fixed by the Commi- they have mentioned that productivity ssion after takinl into account the cost has gone up, coal production has gone o.f inputs. up by 32%, electricity production hu gone up by 32% dod crude oil produc- With these words, I thank you for tion has gone up by 120%. But what is more important is that you have not .]Jowing me this much time. considered the base year production. If the production in the case year is very [English] low, then obviously the percentage in- crease will not be a true representation SHRI ANAND GAJAPATHI RAJU of the increase. Then, again the whole- (Bobbili) Madam Chairman, sale price index figures are very mislead- ing. It was stated tbat the wholesale I would like to mention in this Deb&te on the President's Address that price bad increased only by 4.8~~ in the President's Address Jacks in eco- 1984. But what is more important is nomic coherence. They may have men- that the retail price index was enor- tioned projects and programmes but mous. The retail price index figures are tbey have not mentioned any strategy the real barometer. Now, what are the to provide food. work and productivity. items that are i neluded to work out Food, work and productivity may be the wholesale price index figures? Only an objective. But the main poi nt is very limited number of items have been this. How does one go about providini included in working out the wholesale it? There has to be a strate8Y, an price index. Therefore, it is Lot a true operational plan, and above a11, they representation of the increase in the should fit in figures into the plan that wholesale price. they are speaking about. Macro varia- ble and parameters are ra t her tricky The Planning Commission has not because they have to be properly put taken into consideration inflation while together. Only when they are put to- preparing the pJan outlays They just gether and only when they a re under- prepare the Plans and they expect them stood that a solution to employment to be implemented by the Government. can be provided. But the prices of essential commodities go up and the escalation in the prices of essential commodities is not taken in- Now 1 would like to mention that to consideration while preparing the pfovidinl employment may be easily country's plan. Moreover, if they are said rather than done. Because, today not able to implement the various you find tbat the Capital Output Ratio programmes outJined in the plans, they is rising. Earlier in the First Five year carry them over to the next year's PJan it was somewhere around 3: 1 or p Ian and ca IJ them spiJJ-over projects. 2.5 : l. Today it has lone to 5 : 1 or even 6:1. Now, the industrial policy of the Government is also defective. Earlier. The capital.output ratlo is more during 18th and 19th centuries, people than what it is in the developed had other avocations like handicrafts, countries also. So, it is difficult to etc. But today they are more for provide employment without so much of employment-oriented programmes be- capital provided for raising the output cause of the Industrial Policy followed ratio. Then alain the productivity also by the Government. But the Industrial bas not kept pace with the rise in Policy of the Government has resulted population. That is also one of the in a backlash effect on the employment ~jor points which bas '0 be taken in'Q wbich in turn resulted in )OSiOI of jobs, eontl4eration by the lovernment. resulted in curtailment of produ~tioQ in 249 MOlion 0/ Thanks on MAGHA 2, 1~6 (SAKA) the Pre,ldent' I Addr~s' ~50

the rural areas. This has to be corrected. Congress Party is prepared to live a I t cannot be corrected just by speeches practical shape to them Not or some fancy words. Earlier in 1971, only India but the whole world is the former Primer Minister, Shrimati wa tching tha t a young man has become Indira Gandhi's slogan was «garibi the Prime Minister of our country. H. hatao'. In 1980, she said 'Government has made up his mind to work with that works'. For electioneering, these honesty and good intentions. He has slogans are good. But in actual practice transformed politics into service of the na- it does not work. One should not criti- tion. of Politics no longer remains an in- cise for the sake of criticism. Now, I strument selfishness now. He has Warned want to give some positive suggestions. that corrupt people in politics would be removed The hone Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandbi, expressed that he would SHRI NARAY AN CHOUBEY seek the cooperation of the Opposition (Midnapore): The number of such for the coun try's progress. In this People is large. for with connection, we would like to assure him that we will gh'e full cooperation, SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: and see that our country stands on its Please keep silent and do not try to own feet. In the President's Address, escape from the feeling of shame by there is no mention about how social saying like this. A great chaIJenge lies justice would be given to the common before the country. Rajiv Ji has taken man. There was just a mention about a step in this direction and said that it. Social justice cannot just be words politics would be based on morality and in the planning process. In the in- the principles and ideals of Gandhiji dustrial and agricultural policies, it would be followed. The name of Rajiv has to be the backbone and in the Ji is not broadcast much on T.V. and in economic policy unless socialist doctrine, Radio programmes, because he says secular doctrine and the democratic that Government would be judged by their structure of the country are maintained~ deeds and not by talks. Immediately we cannot make much progress. To after taking over, he announced that this endeavour It as the Deputy Leader no corrupt officer would be tolerated. of the Telugu Desam Party, we extend Talk less, work more _.. (Interruptions) our unstinted cooperation so that our country can march forwards towards After Rajiv Gandhi took over the socialism, secularism and democracy. reins of administration, the situation in the country has [Trails/at ion] taken a new turn ... (Interruptions). The Government is putting a 1 end to defec- SHR[ MOOL CHAND DAGA tions with a view to usher in an era of (Pali): Madam, all the parties wanted healthy politics. A law was formulated to unite and we too wanted them to in t he yea r 1969 and we also tried iD uni teo But there was no union of hearts that directions a number of times. But and they could not unite. They wanted Shri Rajiv Gandhi took a final decision to unite merely to gain power. This to put an end to the evil practice of policy of gaining power did not succeed. defections. It has been applauded by When there is no unity of hearts, minds Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee also and this and ideologies, it happens like this. law will soon be on the statute boot The result is before you. Our Jeader and wiU be enforced. The steps takeD has asked us to pay more respect to the by Shri Rajiv Gandhi will takc tbe Opposition this time. We will have not country forward iostead of pushiDI it in only to pay more attention to the the reverse lear He has stated' that speeches of ,reat leaders of the Opposi- we had oot eotered politics to ..in tion but also to expect that they will powers but to implement the poJj~iea make constructive SUlaesti~ns. If cons- of tbe Conaresa and those polid. tructive . supestions are made. tbe whicb are intcDded to uplift tile UJ Motion 0/ Thanks on' JANUARY 22, 1.985

lShri Mool Chand Daga] speeches to this effect and I also feel that a1l' these things are essential for a country. On that basis we sh~11 chalk strong na tion. Every Member sitting in out our programmes and policies. You this House agrees to this view and per- may also be aware of his views about haps nobody would disagree to it. I ecology. He has stated that efforts will also agree tha t corruption should be be made to free Ganga river of pollu- eradicated and perhaps no Member sitt- tion .. .I Interruption]. ing in this House wants that corruption should be supported, It is a fact tha t you got the rnajori ty on the ba':;is of In so far as the strength of the these assurances and you have formed tbey ,Opposition is concerned, they have no' Government. But Madam Chairman, strength now. Their. strength has been the party which forms a Government reduced considerably and they have should must implement it's assurances been totally exposed before the masses and formulate their economic and other and have been left with no reputa tioo. programmes a~cordingly. This is what I want to request you. (lnterruptio'lf< )

There are fifty t(xtile miJls in the area in my constituency and Madam Chairman. the way. these there is always strike in these mi1Js ~hows J)eople aTe infeTrUf'ting. Clearly due to one r~ason or the other. Both their weakness. It is a symbo' of their the sides in the House have made a lot .eakness. But I want to ten you that of cri ticism and discuss:!d this sub- they need not get dis3pt'ointed anor feel ject. But it is also a fact that like dejected. Congress Partv will sunport and Calcutta, the jute mills of Bombay are agree to their right sugpestions an'i this the oldest mills and it is the fourth would be our policy that we should generation of workers which is working extend our support to right suggestionc:. there. But even after working continu .. This time you should do creative work, ously for the last 30-35 years, not a co-operate with the Government and single worker out of them is getting give good suggestions. The Congress more than Rs. 700 or Rs. 800. As many party in spite of bt-ing in majority~ will a~ one lakh workers are replaced there show due consideration to your sug!!e~­ in each decade, but the owners of th ose tions. We would be happy to Tt"'spect mills close their mills on the basis of and welcome your constructive sugges. bogns accounts. Even th~n no Govern- tions. This will be the policy of thp ment have ever inquired into it during congre~s party. It is only because of the last 37 )'ears of goVernance. This thi~ f'olicy that this country will mov~ Government cans itself to be a socialist flTward and you will soon see a new Gov~rnment but nothing worthy of India. it has come to light so far.

DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay Recently, Shri Rajiv Gandhi had South Centra]): M~dam Cha i r- given a Jecture in a meeting held at man, the Members of the ruling party Bombay, which was attended by labou- are"right in saying that all of us must rers and workers both. I want to put acknowledge the mandate given to them before you two-three points of that 'by the people. It will be a waste of meeting. The meeting was held in the time to discuss it in the House. But Shivaji Park and I want to teU ),ou in tbese elections you had given, assu. what I heard in that meeting, Out of a rances to the pUblic to the effect tha t total popula tion of 90 lakbs of Bombay, .'you would form a Government. which 10 lakh people are labourers or will 'work for tbe unity and integrity of tbeir fami lies. As re,ard. the tbe nation aDd which' win eradicate policy that) ou have referred to about ~ corruption. I' had listened to your them, 1 would like to commont ·on tbat r , 1 2Sl Motion of 1'hankJ on MAGHA -,)906 (SAXA) as an independent Member, That Shri Rajiv mills. If you allow a discussion on this". Gandhi had assured in a textiJe mill of we shall discuss it but I shall furnish you Ahmedabad that all the textile mills information about this. would be updated and modernised. This is an assurance as well as a declaration The mill owners of Bombay have of your party. WiH you pJease state commi tted economic offences to such an" tile number of miHs which will be extent that they have a share Capital o~ modernised and updated '1 1 think there Rs. 70 crores. But if they sell tbelr are 60 such miUs in Ahmedabad and ]and alone they can ear D Rs 700 crores. about 150 mills in the whole country. Tbe Government of M:!harashtra is Wberefrom you shall bring the money exerting its influence to get the plans of for modernisation of these milJs '1 And Tata Mill, the Uniled Mdl and the Finclt whether those mills will be handed over mdJ sanctioned. By constructJng such to the owners after modernisation? We a huge bUllding there, the owners win have got details of aU the mill owners earn crores of rup~es and some political of Bombay. 20 thousand workers of people will also have a hand in it. I tb~ Kohinoor Mall are facing starvation. would lIke (0 warn against sending two Similarly, Kapadia mjl1 had been run- and a half ]akh workers out of Bombay ning well upto the y.:ar 1976 but the- DOW; StatistIcs regarding textile mills r~after an amount of Rs. 25 crores was have been 'brougbt 6ut. We have aJso given to the owners of Maruti cars. I got details aboul all the texdJe mills do not know whether the amount was and we can furnish the same to you. given as a loan or on some different basis. I am Dot cal ling it a t raud. You gave 2S crores 0 f rup ..'';s auj they It is true that I was behind strikes g(lt a Joan of Rs. 11 crores from in BumbdY but wh,j[ happened In I. R. D. P. and a Joan of Rs. 20 Ahmedabad. Sixteen mllls are closed crores from the CtlJ II a J B.llik. In SPI te there and 7u tnousand workers are em- of that 20 thousand workers are facing ployed in those mills. We bav~ no starvation ther~ Here. the question of Uilion th~re. Tne worK\;rs approach us. strike by us docs not arise, as you have Shn RaJlv Gand!11 assured tbem th..!t nationalised this mil L lmprovements WOUld be orougul abouL in til.: lOlUS. -.H tbe starving W..,CKC1S bave v~LC!d in jO:.tf fdvour. 11 you wdnt J ,; ;J The Mukesh Mi Jl h:ad of the to modcfu:.),;: all dl~ mlHs tou~y, arc Tl1~re TajmahaJ Hotel. JS an area of you going to gJ V~ thiS mOD\:!y (0 tbe. 5 acres where the M..Lh.!fJshtra Govern- o",Ders? Wh~l[ wtJ1 tnese owners gJV~ given permission COI;s~ruc­ ment has for to you afler geUHJg till:) muney 1 A st.if tion of a five hotel. Iu December, loan amounting to Rs. 113 crore;) IS 1983, tht: mill owne~~ set the mill on fire already outstanding against th~se ill. ii and we have got a ;' ,lof of i(. There owners and they are not repa)blc; it. is a fire·fighting Sl{illvn at a distance of two metres from tha t place but no- body went there. OUf workers went to I would tike to say something aO\lut the Cinema House hu l the owners pre- sick units. Mills remain clos~d in N""", vented them. I raised this Que"tion in pur. The BirJa mill aJso f\!malnS closed. the Maharashtra Assembly and the As a result th~rcof 3-4 laleh work..!rs Chief Minbter, BJbl SJ:1tb B~lonsle, have been render(!d jobless. Tho! workers gave an assurance for conducting an are not at fault. The capitalists of the" enquiry within a period of one month. country are behind it. I do not want" But a period of t\\O )(alS has since elaps- to talk of the past, but J want to submit ed and no enquiry has yet been con- that you may not agree with us, but it is ducted. necessary to institute a court of enquiry against those mill owners, who have The owner of Finex MiH sets the ioduJaed in bunglioa of crores of rupees. mill on fire, Governm "nt advances You want to root out corruption aBd": mppey and· now you are allQtin& people haye voted in your fa\'OUr. buildina. This is the history of these Therefore, I make a demand ill tIl.·'it , ~ 2S' MDtion of ritalCks on JANUARY 22, 1985

[Dr. Datta Samant] country forward. I do not want to discuss it further and blame each other. House that a court of enquiry should I am confident that the Government will be set up by the Governmen t against formulate such programmes. Bombay mill owners. I had been making this charge in the State Assembly SHRIMATI KRISHNA SAUl for three years. The owners of the (Begusarai): Madam Chairman, I Cadbury Mil J misappropriated the Provi. rise to support the Motion of Thanks t)n dent Fund money. The Sitaram Mill President's Address. Several new owners set up a trust, instaHed a petrol points have been highlighted in the 1'ump, established industrial estate and President's Address and the Prime misappropriated crores of rupees in the Minister's messages have been broad- process. In Maharashtra Assembly, cast to the nation. But one point Government have admitted it. If govern- which is noteworthy and which I ment can gi ~e crores of ruoees to mills would like to discuss is the VISIon for such a misuse and want to usher in of the development of India in the indu9trial development, how much 21st Century. In the 21st Centry amount is recovered out of the two what will be the shape of develop- thousand crores of rupees ad vanced to ment in India and what will be its them every year and how many capital- planning, so as to enable us to have ists are misusing money? What do the an honourable place for India in the government propose to do in regard to world, to have made considerable brinling about an economic change? If achievements in this direction. Late you do not want to nationalise Smt. Indira Gandhi, who was an textile miJls, I wouJd like to make acknowledged world leader, an in- a demand that a court of enquiry should spiring force to the mankind and be instituted against those who have dear to every heart, had laid a foun- committed economic offences. Put them dation to ensure a bright future and all- behind the bars, this is my demand. round development of India. She We have got proofs in this connection. guided the country on such a path Please do not let these mills remain with which has enabled j t to become a the owners. Instead of advancing them powerful country. India has become further amount, they should be nation- a model country for the Third World a lised. We shall extend you our support. and has attracted many countries of W~ also want to work. Give us also a the world due to its ideal foreign share in this profit. policy and strong military force.

In our coun try there are 35 to 40 sick milJs, where we Since independence, this is the have not launched any agitation. first occasion when our Prime Minis- Government have given an amount of ter has taken steps wi th determina- Ils. 45 crores to them. I brought a tion and self.confidence to (uBI the calJing attention 10 times in the State promises made during the elections and Assembly in this regard and wrote thrice made a pledge to fulfil the same. He to the Union Minister starting how the has sought to inculcate a new spirit funds were being diversified. A unit is of service which may lead the country to rendered sick: but its owner prosperse that stage of deyelopment, which we Government shouJd do som!thing to have envisaged for our country. But check it and this is my only demand. what we shall have to do to achieve it ? We shall have to develop a work-cul- ture for that. As stated by Prime During 1980 to 1984, the prices in- Minister, it is very necessary to creased by 60 per cent. Today, one develop such a work-culture. If it is not crore and 20 lakh people are unemploy- done, our administrative reforms will ed and their number is on the increase. not prove dynamic. We have been Since you have' now formed a Govern- contemplating to bring about adminis· ment at the Centre, you should formulate tr.tive reforms in our Ceuntry in •• economic prOlramme a 04 lead the 257 Motion of Thanks on MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) th? l'resid~nt's Address 2~ view of the fact that some such cul- the people of India and the massive ture has developed in our adminis- mandate given by them. But after tration that the officers in the ad- the constitution of the 8th Lolc Sabha, ministration have adopted an an impression is gathered after hear- indifferent attitude towards the people ing their speeches that taey have not with the result that the pace of de- still recovered from shock and were velopment has been hindered to a suffering (rom a sense of frustration. great extent. They had been violating Yesterday~ an hone Member was compar- the norms even in small spheres anc! ing our democracy with that of the bureatJcracy had become so callous France. But the people of our country that they were becoming insensitive have created a unique example in tbe to problems. Our Prime Minister history of the world and if they still has not only drawn the attention of have to say something, I would like the people towards it, but he has to say only this that they should learn also assured the people of the country a lesson from ita ad a bandon the that he would take concrete steps to path of negative politics, otherwise ensure admi nistra tive reforms so as to the peopJe of India will a,ain teach quicken the pace of development. them a lesson in the ensuing elec-, tions of State LegisIatures~ I welcome our new Prime Minister. He has promised to accord priority The hon. President has mention- to social, economi c and cultural de- ed in his Address that our judicial velopment of women, which object has system bas an important role to play clearly been reflected in the Presi- in maintaining the sanctity of the dent's Address. The female population consti tution and safeguarding the constitutes 50 per cent of our total fundamental rights of the citizens. population. If the status of women He has indicated that our judicial is not raised and they are not properly system wi II be reformed. It is seen educated, we cannot make progress, that hundreds of women have to lan- because it will be a blunder if half the guish in jails simply because their POPlIlfltion of the country is not cases are not decided for years to- associated with the developmental gether, thereby denying them justice. aetivities. Therefore, first of all, we They are sen t to jai Is on charges of shall have to educate the illiterate very petty offences like stealing a loaf women in the rural areas. I would of bread or a petty amount of rupees like to give a suggestion regarding five. They are not provided with any the medium of instruction to be adop- kind of legal aid, with the result ted for this purpose. The Informa- that they continue to languish in jails tion and Broadcasting and Education for years together. Similarly, children Ministries should work in a coordina- of small age are sent to jails on ted manner for the dissemination and charges of petty offences. If they propagation of education in rural are sent to jails a t the age of ten, areas. They wjJl have to be educated they ha \Ie to languish in jail till the through video or cinema. I would age of twenty and thereafter they like to cite an example. In the last become crinlinals. Promises made in elections, I saw that the people in the President's Address about legal re- remote villages took keen interest in forms and providing justice to the listening to the speeches of Smt. Indira people are of immense significance. Gandhi on video: which was arran- Huge expenditure is being incurred led by us. Th:ir interest was so keen on court cases which is a heavy burden tbat they listened to the speeches of on the poor people. Mrs. Gandhi till late in the night i.e. till 2 A.M~, despite severe cold. We have thouah that the persons sitting In the end I would Ii ke to metion on the Oppo~ition benches would learn a that no progress has been made so Jesson from the immense fai th reposed far for raising the status of women, even in our ,arty and in our lead.r by after settinl up several committees aDd Motion of Thanks on JANUAR Y 22 1935 the President~s Address 260

[Shrimati Krishna Sahi] M~mbers were very much agitated when an hon. Member, Shri Jaipal Reddy submission 0 f reports by them for spoke something about the mandate. this purpose. National and internatio- They have got landslide victory no doubt nal women's year was also celebra- but I nlust say that they did not g~t a ted in our country. but no concrete massive mandate. To call it a massive result has been achieved. .It is clear mandate, at least 60 per cent from the programme a nnounced in the or over the votes poned should have President's Address. that a Jot of im- been got by them. But the mechances provement will be made. A large num- of direct elections are such that, in ber of lady members have been elec- spite of g\!tting less then 50 per cent ted to both the Houses and I do hope votes polled they have got a large ty. that their contribution in th~ politi- majori So, I would request the bon. cai, economic and cuI tura) ii,: Us wi II Memb.:rs on th 1 t ~idc n)t g..:t so much elated by the election victory. en~ure all round progress. Wi th these words, I congratulate you. So felr as manoa te is concerned, we (English] know that peopJe's verdict ~ome times may not be wisc. In Greek history, Socrates was g.ven poison by the verdict SHRI DEVINENI NARAYANA- of the whole city population for telling SWAMY (Anantapur) : Madam Chair- truth. This shows that sometimes the man, there is a creeping misconcep- verdict of the people may not be wjse. tion in the minds ('f the hon. Members of the Congress Party that all Opposi- tion parties are anti nationa I. This IvfR. CHAIRMAN: The Reporters morning I received a greeting letter are not able to hear the speech of the from an ordinary worker. I win just hon. Member properly. So, he may read-out poem written in Teluge. come nearer to a mike and speak.

SHRI DEVINENI NARA \ ANA- Aee des" mee yajya InJukhale dina SWAMY : So whether it is a wise decis- A peeth men kina )adruaoona Phoklra ";rtilli bhoomi Bharat na, n.luprallijate ion or not, time above wj1J de:ide.lf you nindu goravam. (the Prime Minister) do well, the people will then decide and couid say thitt a wise decision. We wi)) respect the The substance of that is 'Wha tever verdict of the people and we wil1 sub- land you visit and wherever you set mit to what this House decides. This is foot, whatever position you occupy, all by way of digression. whoever opposes you, &ing the great- ness of your motherland Bhant t. Be Comin g to the address of our steadfast and maintain th~ honour and President, there is no mr-olion of the self-respect of your countr)men'. steps the (Jover nmen t is Ii kely to take We hope the hone Prime Minister will to develop the most backward regions please remember tha t the Members of the of this country. It is common knowle- opposition are DO Jess patriotic, no less dge that every year, or at least once in national. no less sacrificing for the sake two years, certain areas in this country of the country. I hope thei r great are getting very scanty rainfall and. as misconception will be removed. a result, people are put to great misery and distress. We notice that by the Let me mention as a slight digres. end of the Sixth Plan there wou,d still sion that Sir Winston Churchill in his be left 45 miJlion hectares of unirrigated Treatise on the Sec(;nd Wo"/d ~,yar land of the targeted land. In thlS has stated the moral of the book as: address we do not find any mention of -'In war-resolution, in defeat-defiance any strategy to see that such areas are in victory-maananinity and in peace- given irrigation faciH ties on priority ,oOdwilJ, Yesterday Conaress (I) Party basi,_ 26 t Motion ()f Thanks on MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) 262 the Pre~ident's Address [English] It is everybody's knowledge that unless the poorest of the poor is uplifted 16.02 hrs. and developed, the nation cannot claim CALLING ATTENTION TO to have done justice to all the sections. MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC It is common knowledge that in spite IMPORTANCE of the Sixth Five Year Plans a nd spend. 16 02 hr~. ing over hundred thousands of crores of rupees , nothing tangible or worth the Rt-por~d fresh violence in Sr; name can be said to ha~e been achieved. Lanka causing loss of life and pro- On the other hand, according to the pertyof Tamilzans and tr~spass of a available statistics, the percentage of Sri Lanka Patrol crafl into Indian people below the poverty line is in~reas­ waters attacking Indian FisheJme:: ing year after year. Therefore, Madam Speaker, it can be said that performance SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS of the Congress (I) for the past 35 year MUNSHI (Howrah) : I can the atten_ has been most unsatisfactory. tion of the Minister of External Affairs 16.0~ hrs. to the following matter of urgent public importar.ce and request that he may We find Critual promises make a statement thereon:- mad\! as usual in the Presi- dent's Address. We had expected "Reported fresh violence in that our young Prime Minister will have Sri Lanka causing loss of life and wisdom and take new steps and good property of the Tamilians and tres- policies, but our expectation belied when pass of a Sri Lanka Pa tr01 craft into we fOlJnd that the AIADMK Member, Indian waters attacking Indian their ally was given the Deputy-Speaker- fishermen and the action taken by ship and not to the real Opposition. the Government in the matter." It shows tha t they arc only tryi ng to THE f\.fINJ'iTER OF STATE IN copy the old methods. They have not THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL changed even a little bit. That is quite AFFAIRS (SHR[ KHURSHEED ALAM evident now. KHAN):Since the House considered the There has been some pi ous promise question last, the situation in Sri Lanka made that there will be clean adminis- already grave then, has deteriorated even furtprr. tration. There is a saYlDg that it is easy to win an election, but difficult to .., Until the end of last year, run the administration. Last 35 years tht'ugh the All Party Confo!rence was have shown that the image of the making no visible progress, its mere bureaucracy has been f''le of indifference cxis fence ga ve S 'Jme hope tha t a negoia- deep corru~tion and negligence. Now ted settlement, acceptable to all, woul d in this state of affairs it is very difficult be- f ,-'und for the problems faced by the to conceive of any clean administration Tamils in Sri Lanka. The dr aft legis- unless drastic measu reS are taken. \Ve do lation introduced by Presid\!nt Jayewar- not find what new measures are being dene late last year was insufficient to taken. meet T dmil aspirations, but was being One thing thJt I would like to considered seriC'usly by the TULF with suggest is tha t a udi t of wurk shoulJ be a view to improving it to meet their established as a routine matter in the demands. Unfortunately, it was rejected administration to evaluate work. out of hand by the Sinha Ie parties and Only then can something be achie- the Buddhi5t Clergy and was then with. ved. If really the Government is drawn by President Jayewardene. The anxious to hav.: a clean administra tion, All Party Conference was terminated j t must have set up an Ombudsman at on 21 December~ and there is DOW DO least as we have done in our State indication that a political soJution is (A.P.) being sought. This is a matter of 8I1l"Ie disappointment and frustratioD. We With these words, I oppose the fear tbe continuation of the situatioD Motion of Tha Ilks. may not permit the return, in safety ~J Cldfill, AtI~ntioll to JANUA!tY 22, 1985 Public Importunce 264 mIIller of Urgent

[Shri Khursheed AJam Khan] wi th its crew, has been brought to our shores and held in' custody. We have and honour. of many Sri Lankan Tamils told the Sri Lankan Government that who have taken refuge in India. we expect that on intrusion will take place in the future. The Sri Lankan Government have requested for the re- 3. The continuing cycle of violence lease of their boat and crew. and counter.violence cannot resolve the ethnic problem in Sri Lanka.. We are opposed to all forms of violence any- 7. The absence of any progress towards a political settlement and de- where and deplore alJ less of life and property. It is not our intention to terioration of the situation in Sri Lanka might..' force more TamiJs to seek: refuse, discuss aspects of the problem which in India. We already have over 40,000 arc internal to Sri Lanka, but it is un- Tami I refugees from Sri Lanka. We are fortunate that the Sri Lanka authorities looking after them on humanitarian are concentrating on security operations. grounds. We hope that the conditions There are daily reports of Tamil civi. in Sri Lanka well improve rapidly so lians being killed by the securi ty forces. that the refugees can go back to their Many Tamils of IndiAn origin who had country in dignity and without fear. settled in the North and the East are among the 'Victims. 8. I am aware of the depth of 4. To compound all this, the Sri feeling aroused all over the country, Lankan military has made Indian especially in Tamil Nadu by the almost fishermen as its special targets. Thr! daily reports of outrages committed on Sri Lankan Government have arrested the innocent Tamil population in Sri many Indian fishermen al1eging that Lanka. Violen::e cannot provide the they were terrorists for which there is answer. It only leads to more violence. no basis. On later admissions of the We urge it should end immediateJy. As Government of Sri Lanka, the Indian the Prime Minister has reiterated, there ftshermen who have been either kiJJe"d, can be no alter:native to a political so- wounded or captured were aU engaged lution acceptabJe to all concerned, wi th- in fishing. in the framework of Sri Lanka's unity and territorial integrity. The continuance of this situation has caused enormous 5. What is even more disturbing, human suffering and it remains our bope over the last month, the Sri Lankan that the Government of Sri Lanka will Navy vessels have been crossing into our take an early initiative to settle this territorial waters to harass our fisher- problem throulh negotiations. man and seize their catches. On three occasions, we have lodged strong protests to the Sri Lankan Government, sought SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS compensation for the loss of Hfe and MUNSHI; Madam Chairman, the property and urged that this should stop stalemen t IS, no doubt, an elaboarte immediately. We bave asked for the one and it not onJy reveals sertain release of those Indian fishermen and facts, but also the admission of boats which have beeD in tbe Sri Lankan certain basic developments inside Sri custody for past several months. Lanka.

6. To protect our fishermen, the Madam Chairman, before I put tbe Coast Guard patrolling bas been stepped questions to the Minister, we, up_ The Navy has also been asked to hon. Members of the House. know keep viii). On the 11 th January when an that our young Prime Minher from armed Sri Laaleall patrol craft intruded the very first day of his office made into our waters.q miles west of Ka t ... abundantly clear to tbe whole world chatbeevu and wal found barasling our that apart from our contribution to fiahemaeo, the Coas t Guard apprehen- world peace, our etforts should be there ded it well witbin our waters. The boat, to streo,then our relations with our 1~5 C .lIilll Att,ntlo" to _ MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAXA) I'ublic Im/HIrt."ee 2~ Malter 0/ Urgent

neiahbours, whether it is Sri Lanka or Press a few days ago, that Mr. R.amp- Bangladesh or Pakistan or Nepal, hal is trying to make an initiative and I am confident that we. are for between India and Sri Lanka. I do i t. Whil~ we have no intention and not accuse Mr. Ramphal. Nor 40 desire, in view of our principles, to I accuse him of any intention to do interfere in the internal affairs of so; nor do I accuse the Common- any country, the situation in Sri wealth. But I WQuid like to remiDd Lanka today is to be looked iIi a dif- our hon. Foreign Minister that our ferent manner~ in the context of the Prime Minister who is now the head present developments in the Indian sub- of the Non-Aligned Movement i. continent. Our relation with Sri Lanka equally responsible for peace in tbe since the age old times. Ramayana, to Non-Aligned nations as wen as peace the visit of Vijay Singha, Atish Dipan- in the world. Our status in this kar is not only a cultural -and emo- matter is not at aJJ permitting us to tional one but almost, when we think see that Mr. Rampbal comes iato of it, we think, we are the same: the scene and decides the fate of members of the same family in this India and Sri Lanka, eSpecially in the globe. Our emotional and cultural context of the relations which are DOW relations never got spoiled or never being developed in view of the fKt tried to interfere with each one's that the Tamil population is there. sovereignty and territorial integri ty. Therefore, my request to the Minister ])ut now Madam Chairman, you must would be that the Commonwealth be aware of the fact that for the matter or the' Commonwealth arran- last one and a half decades, a sinister gement under the initiative of Mr., move, an effort has been made by the Ramphal should not come in this imperialist forces in this sub-continent scene at a11. On the contrary, I per- to destabilise the system of the de. sonally feel, with great regard to the mocratic nations specially those of the highest office of the Chairman of the littoral States. near Indian Ocean. Non-Aligned Movement which i. now Right a fter the emergence of Bangla- being occupied by India, by our youn. desh. we have been carefully noticing Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi. the efforts that are made inside Pakistan, that we should find certain measures the efforts that ar~ made after the in this situation, how best the problem killing of Sheikh Mujibur Rehman can be tackled in participation in the inside Bangladesh and the developments common negotiation between TULP. after the faU of the Bandaranaike Go- Tamil population group and layawar- vernment in Sri Lanka as weB as its dene Government still further more counterre-ction and its bearing directly should be explored. It is because, it is on the population of India, elpeciany the land of Pandit lawahar La) on the people belonging to Tamil Nehru, it is the land of Indira Gandhi Nadu and the South. This is not an and of course now it is the land of

isolated incident. We should not our leader, Young Prime MinisterIt look into it as a matter which is Shri Rajiv Gandi. If yOU go back only involvina Sri· Lanka. Of course, to history, on many occasions, Jawabar it is an international matter. And Lal Nehru ... the Sri Lankan Government out of tbeir own cleverness and wisdom is trying to project to the whole world' SOME HON. MEMBERS: What about Mahatma Gandhi? tbat it is a matter of terrorists only and matter of Ja wand order and not SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS as luch the matter of Tamil popula. MUNSHI; I am talkins in terma 01 tion who wanted their leaitimate riabts the foreian policy or tbe COUDtry to be accepted by their Govern- after independencc. Try to UDder- meat. stand my hon. friends 'rom the Opposition. I am alad that 0'14 is . Now. we bave reatl iD the DeWS- remJDdin, m. of Me"'''' eaDdJd. J PI"" aDd j t bas beep reported' ia the am aratefu1 to it. '6" Calliag Atttlllion II) JA)lUAIlY 22, 1985 Mlltt~r 9/ Urg.nt

[Shri Priy. Ranjan nas Munshi] sub.contiDent? It is Dot Sri Lankan Now~ Madam Chairman" you Govermnent and President Jaya_ardeae must be aware of the fact that Pandit wIlo is an itlstrumellt but there is lome Jawabar Lal Nehru and Indraji in de.iln behind it which is constantl, many internationaJ issues never lost enaa_Jed in destabjJjsing the peace iu their patience. They tried to negotiato the Indian sob-confiDent. aDd persuade in a much more detailed fashion to see that positive solution Secondly, it is not the problem of comes. But it appears to us that tbe Tamilians alone. It is not that be- Sri Lankan Government is DOW despe- cause ) am fr()fl1 West Bengal, I am rate and Jayawardene is behaving sayjns it. When I was in West Bengal like a tyrant. It has been admitted in during the liberation of Bangladesh I the statementj by our hOD. Migjster felt very much- when Bengalis were heiDJ of State for Foreign Affairs and he kitled and there was genocide, I feet said , not once, not twice but thrice the same way when I hear tbat our that the naval vessels which where Tamilian friends are being killed in Sri part of tbe Sri Lankan Army crossed Lanka. There is the same feeling tbe Indian bor"(fer~ the territorial amoDist the people in tbe south, in zone of India in the name of catcbiDI Tamil Nadu, when their fore-fathers, our fishermen-but may be there are their bretbren, are being butchered in lome ulterior desilns and motives~ Sri Lanka. As you know. the House is aware that the motives of the foreign powers, espe- In the statement, it has been admit- cially the imperialist forces of Indian ted that in the northern and the OQCaD and on the territorial water eastern part of Sri Lanka. not once. zone of India are not uokaown to us. but constantly, on this pretext or that My first question is whether tbe pretext, the army is kilHng tbe people, Minister considers Sri Lanka indulging in rampage, desfroying the Government's interference in India as property and lives of Tamilians. Wh.n a poSitive interference in India '. tbeir 'brothers and sisters convey tbe lecurity and integrity. message to Tamil Nadu or to India, we feel it. It is not because they are A mere protest is not enough.. TamiJians. Tamil is the richest cuI. I want to know what kind of inter- ture of India. TamiHan link is an national protest the Government of original link with Indian culture. India would like to lodge with the When TarniJians are beiDa tortured in highest body of the world in this this manner, every Indian feeli about matter. 1 can understand one fisher- it. man crossing the limit of territorial water and going to another territo- Mere exprcssiD8 our concern is not rial water. It is Dot that. It is a enough. We have to create a situa- naval vessel which has crossed the limit tion in the wbole worJd and cODvinqe or territorial water and come into the the Sri Lankan Government, Jayawar. territorial water of India. It has been dene Government, and the peopJe of cought redbanded by the Government Sri Lanka that what is beiDI done- of India and it is in our custody. At there is not in tbe best interest of the same time~ the Minister has admit- Sri Lanka. We have no intention to ted, not once but thrice tbat· naval interfere in their internal aWairs. But if vessels have been crossing the territorial they compel us to take refugees-in the- water and coming into the territorial statement, it is stlied tbat we already water of India. have over 40,000 'Tamil re(uaees from Sri LaDlca-numbering 80,0ID or 1 latb (rom Sri Lanka, what wiJl be the (ate 9 DOll t you understand t)tat there is a of soutern State. It is Dot merely a de,iln whicJt is provoldu. India and Jaw &ad order proWem. ~. prebltm di.twbins the peace in tbo. Indian win ta~ a diff.ftU dimOlllioD. 269 tall'", A ttentJon 10 .Pubiic importa"ce },o MattI' 0/ CJ"ent

You mutt be aware of the fact tJaat solution is found for this problem tbe Kbalistan movement-it bas been becaUle we are qui te sure that • mili- accepted by almost all the members tety solution cannot solve such pro- of the Opposition-is a movement blems. whiQh i. linked with the forei.n powers trying to disturb us in the As regards our relations with our north and the movement in Sri Lanka neighbour, I would also like to assure has • direct bearing on the creation of the bon. Member that on our behalf further tension, agsravating the situa- everything possible is being done to 'ion i-n the south and to creating ter- keep out cordial and friendJy relations rUlc passions in the minda of TamiJians with all our neighbours, whether it is there. Pakistan or Sri Lanka or Burma or any other country. The ultimate object i~ to keep the Government of India in a fashion as As regards the statement of Shri if the Government of India cannot Ramphal, I would like to inform the ooncentrate on their e"onomic de- House tbat whatever Shri Rampbal velopment works, so that it ~will have might have said in his own, capacity, to concentrate only on the movement be bas no brief on behalf of the of Ichalistan in the north and see the Government of India and this country, fate of our Tamlian brothers in the south on account of movement in Sri Lanka, who are coming as refugees to 16.20 brs India. [SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI in the Chair] It is an organised g~me of big powers, imperia list design, with the _ As reaards the intrusion of the United States at its head. They vessels, the hone Member is aware know that this is the only way teach that as soon as one of the vessels cro~­ a lesson to India and the littoral sed into our territorial waters-i t States of Indian Ocean. came 4t miJes inside our territon3 I waters-it was apprehended and~ as .1 With these words, I wo~dd 'request mentioned in my statement, our coast- the hone Minister to tell U.l t whether auard and our naval authorities have after the failure of nesotiated settle- alread) been alerted and 1 can aisurc ment, after the withdra waJ of Presi- tbe House that we can take care of the dent Jayawardene'ts legislation from security and integrity of this counuy the House, any fresh effort is possible and we would not allow any ... politically and whcther, in this re- ,ard, Government of lndia has recei- yed a communication and, if so, what SHRI PR.IY A RANJAN DAS the Government of India propose step. MUNSHI; Do you consid..:r It a to take to p:rsuade further the Sri positive interference in our territor- tak1e the Lankan Government to issue ial integrity 'I If so, did you COln- not in terms of law and order problem municate it to the Sri Lanka Govern- but in tenn. of a serious probrem ment '1 which bas a direct bearing on Indian population, specially on our: Tamilian SHRI KHURSHEED ALAN! brotllers. KHAN: When we apprebended tbis vessel, we have protested to Sri Lanka Government and n. tura))y they know SHItI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: that apprehendiDI of tbis vessel was Madam Chairman, we qui te share the ooly on this account and this vessel- aDldecy _pressed by the hone Member. was Dot so far been released, I' would like to ••ure him and assure the Houle'that everythiq possible is MR. CHAIRMAN: Now Mr. MiD, dOD. te eAlyre fllat. politi~al arajamoltaa MQbanty willipeat. 271 Calli", ~tt~lfti.1f ttJ JANUARY 22, i98S Public I mporttJ"c~ 212 Mtltt~r 0/ Urge"t SHRIBRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY I would invi te the attention of the (Puri) : Madam Chairman, at the out- Minister of External Affairs to the set I would submit that this issue has latest statement by Jayewardene made been debated earlier in this House and to the Newsweek: a foreign journal. I find no silver lining during this period He has categorically stated. I am of one year in our relations with Sri quoting only three or four lines. He has LaDka. stated that:

Previously, the Government of India "The Indian position is that and this House also, decided that we do they are not interfering in our not want to interfere in the internal internal Affairs, that there are no affairs of Sri Lanka. Our Prime Minis- tralolng camps on Indian soil. ter said that India is not agains~ any (But) the terrorists are there. The other country, Sri Lanka and India Indian Government can not caB are inter-linked. Sri Lanka Governmen t them refugees. These are people cannot take the stand that India is not who want to destroy the Govern- bothered about what is happening in- ment of Sri Lanka." side Sri Lanka because both the coun- tries are culturally linked, politically This is one part. I want that India linked and we are associated with each should give assistance to Sri Lanka to other in the non-alignment movement help them combat the terrorists. and in the peace movement and we are both one in demanding that the Indian The latest posture of the Sri Lanka Ocean should be kept as a zone of Government is that we should not allow peace. the refugees, those who are in India to enter into Sri Lanka and that we should Now the problem is, today they have give Sri Lanka all the ammunition to sai4 "We had accepted that we do not suppress them and to ki1l them. What want the division of Sri Lanka between is the reaction of the Government of Tamils and Sinhalese." The Sinhalese India to this. Is there any scope for also migrated from India, They mig- a peaceful solution, for a negotiated rated from Bengal and Orissa. We do settlement? They have rejected it, Itot want that. Government of India and they are not for any negotia ted has taken that stand. settlelQent. They want to crush the Tamils, and they want to go for elec- Sri Lanka is now satisfied tha t India tion ; even if nobody comes to the does not want division of Sri Lanka. polling booth, they will be going in for The Security Minister visited India in election. This is the tragedy of the the month of April, 1984 and he made situation to which I would like to invite a statement in Sri Lankan Parliament the a ttention of tbe Foreign minister .. .nd he has stated that he was happy that nobody in India wants the division Now, what has happened? The of Sri Lanka. militancy has developed durinl tbe period when there was uncertainty in We also condemn violence, the vio- India; after the death of Shrimati Indira leDCe from the side of the Sri Lankan Gandhi and when India was busy wi th Government and also the violence the ejections, at that time military steps from the side of the terrorists. We were taken and expedited. That was do not approve violence in any form, the problem. My submission would be from anywhere. this. Is there any scope (or a poli tical solution? Earlier it was said here that we could inftuence the Government of The tragedy of the situation is that Sri Lanka, particularly Mr. Jayewardene. tbe Sri Lanka Government, particularly But he is a tool in the hands or lome Jayewardene Government, have taken foreian lobby. You know, an l.raeli the Itand of militancy and tbey want to interelt has been opened in the U. s. eliminate 13~~ Tamils from Sri Lanka. £mbauy in 8hri Lanka. What il til. iJ 3 Calling Attention to MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAXA) Ma tIe" of Urgent purpose? Tbey are advising and train- Their latest stand is that, with our arms ing anti.insurgency campaign. Not only and ammunitions, they have to elimanate tbat , there are some foreign powers who them. They are pressing that we should want not only to disturb us but a1so not a How the refugees to go back to disturb the non-aligned movement and Sri Lanka. This is the position. Is there the peace movement of the world. It any chance that tbey can be per.uaded is an international conspiracy, and Mr. for a political solution, for a ne,etiated Jayewardene is a stooge. The question settlement 1 If there is some such chanc, is; how to tackle it? Can we bring him if there is any indication, then It is to the negotiation table? An All Party better that the Government of India Conference was held and the Resolution spe)) it out. for a political settlement was discussed- but it ended abruptly. Now they are Another aspect is about our fisher- determined on military action. That men. Their naval patrol craft was tres- part of the sea-coast in between India passing into the Indian territorial and Sri Lanka has been evacuated, and waters. I do Dot want to say that it is any refugee cntering into Sri Lanka a deliberate act. It may not be a deli· will be killed outright. This is the seri- berate act. The most indisciplined army ousness of the situation. I understand that we can find is in Sri Lanka. This the delicate position with which the is not my information; the entire foreign Government of India is ~onfronted. We journalists are aware and they say that have the traditional friendship with Sri it is the most indisciplined army. Mr. Lanka, we have our commitment to the Jayewardene also has admitted tbat non-aligned movement, our commitment they are indisciplined. (It may not be to peace and friendship; in that back- a deliberate act. But, all the same, we ground, how to handle the situation is mu!!t be careful. Mr. Jayewardene definitely a delicate position for the should bring their army and navy to Government of India. But all the same order. It is not our business. It is the ""iIe cannot sacrifice the interests of the bU3iness of Jayewardene to bring them 13 per cent Tami Is in Shri Lanka. They to order. If they fail, they must, I am have been denied their legitimate rights. sorry to say that, reap the consequences. This is the situation. My submission They must pay compensation. Yesterday would be this. Will the hone Minister ooly 17 fishermen have been prosecuted spell out some firm stc:ps which will be and they have been charged because convincing enough to· the people of India they have trespassed into the territorial that the Government of India means waters of Sri Lanka. business? So this is the situation Madam, My second submission would be I would urge upon the Government of this. Is there any chance for a nego- India that they should take a firm stUd tiated settlement through diplomatic so that the Sri Lankan Government channel? I do not say that we should understand that a political solution is go for war. On the last occasion when the only solutioo and there can be no the debate was going on, my friends, military solution. They should not particularly those on the opposition, expect that mankind can tolerate tbat pressed for a war. We opposed it then, 13/; TamHs will be eliminated from the and today also we oppose it. We want a land of tbeir residence, that tbey will peaceful solution, we want a negotiated be eliminated from their ancestral laDd settlement. of residence and that they will be thrown out or killed. That cannot be tolerated.

My friend, Mr. Priya Ranjan Das SHRI K.HUIlSHEED ALAN Munshi, mentioned about Mr. Rampha). KHAN: I would like to asaure tbe bon He was not allowed audience by the Member tbat we still have Sri Lankan Government. There is a the hope that some political solution win _ total confusion there. They wan t t some- fGund to this problea IlGwer otller. to eliminat•. tb. Tamils. tIcQa". ... are »5 C4/il#fl Att4.t.i." to JANUAIl Y 22, 1985 Public Importa"ce 276 M a',er of Urlent

IShri KbJarsheecl Alam Khan] have been asked to intensify the patrel. ling and the Navy has also been a Yerted. luite ~onfident that a miHtary solution These measures taken will take care of i. Deitber desirable nor feasible. There- the safety of life and property or the fore. . let us not aive up our hope. The fi.hermen and there should b. no two Government representatives are apprehension on this account. Ilready in contact and obviously the ,proareu has been very slow. We still "ve tile hope that it will be possible SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE at lome time that we arrive at a solution (Panskura) : Madam Chairman, iu line acceptable to an the parties. with the statement I wouJd first liko to extond our heart-felt sympathy towards tbe victims of State terrorism of As leaards the 17 skippers ow ho are Jayewardene government in Ceylon OD ia the custody of the Sri Lankan our Tamil brethren. I do not want to Gov_Dalent, we have already taken up go into the internal affairs but then as tbi. ·matter and we hope that it would a political observer of the world I can- .. posaible to get them released early_ not refrain from stating that the prescnt I Quot a date for this but we have u pIca of the Jayewardene government to pR,te~t~ to tbe Sri Lankan Govern- quickly drop the all parties conference IDIDt about the delay and I am sure saying that TULF has rejected his pro- they would be able to find a way aQat posal shows the deliberate intention of aDd the process of law will be "t escalating the situation in Sri Lanka ul;tiated and our skippers wi 11 be and bringing pressure on India and ':"sed alool with their boats and they Indian Government. As far as we can will returD to our country soon. gather from the world press Mr. AmirthaJingam ha5 said that they have Dil. V. RAJESHWARAN (Rama- not rejected it but they have certain _dapuram): i must first thank our reservations. Government f(K having taken nice to protect our Tami Iian fisher- Itc,.. I am very apprehensive to learn .... As a member from Ramaoatha- that there is a plan being talked about ..... which is uearer to Sri Lanka, I jnside Sri Lanka that out of every would lite to suggest to our hon Exter- parliamentary constituency of Sri .. Atrain Minister tbat fishermen's Lanka 200 families of Sinhalese will be ltOries are very pa tbetic. Since I brought into the Tamil areas to settle. witnessed their pathetic conditions It will create a very serious ,ituation personally. request our hon External I because 30,000 families mean at the Main Minister that we must instal a rate of five persons per family one and a permaoeot Naval Base near Rameswaram half lakb new population wi)) be comiDI ao4 we mUit take necessary actioD to and to that extent the Tamilian5 from P'Qtect our people from the attack of tbat area will be driven away. So, we LaD~an Sd Navy by permanently post- are apprehending a big influx in India in. our Daval ships with 24 hour vigi. in this way. I would like to know la,nce. w)lether our government is aware of this plan and, if so, what is the reac- I also request our -Government of tion of the government. lodi. to see to the feasi hi Ii ty of the Sethu Canal Project in view of our .'CACC aad we must help our fishermen Second Iy, I would Ii ke to say that the in aU wafS. recent naval intrusion is not as innocent as it may sound-to catch some fishermen. SHRl KHURSHEED ALAM They have to follow the agreement CHAN: We have takeD all pessibJe which was reached between tbe Cey- *PI to heJp our fishermen and to lonese government and us' in 1974 which ...... ,. the ..fety of their life and pro- definitely provided our right of fishiD, ,__ UId as I lIave already mentioned in tbat area. This is not 081y witbln i • .., "'*-'It,' our Coast Guard. eur area but alto 10 mile. bath." ttac 277 Call1>>1 .Allention tD MAGNA 2, J906 (SAXA) Public Impot11111e4 2'11 Matler of Urgent maminae area. Our fishermen are beina Conference was dis-banded all of a persecuted like anything. The Jayaward- sudden because the sinhalese hard. eae' Government's intention reaJJy is to Jiners and the Buddhist clergy did dot militarise the Palk Strait with the cooperate. Therefore this confereD~ ar-. gained from USA, Britain could not make any progress. As re- aDd others. The real intention of USA gards our country's safety and secuthy i8 this regard is to use the island of this. Government is aware of Hs rewa-' Sri Lanka to link their Seventh ponsibiljties. Surely we kDow wbat .... Fleet with Diego Garcia in the have to do for our safety and leCuriqt. Pacific ocean. This in reality is part As regards colonisatioD, yes, it is .- of that game to building pressure fact that in the Jatrna area it is repor- alround India for cowing it down like ted t ha t one or two Sinhalese ..des- they do in many other developing ments have established by the Sri Lanka countries. Government. The hon. lady Member pointed out that the intention was. &.0 reduce the percentage of the Tamil Therefore, I would )ike to know is population residing there. But surcl, it just an accident that General Wahair, all these things would be discussed former topmost boss of CIA, visits off when a po Ii tical solu don is found. I aod on Ceylon to talk with the Jaya- still hope that it would be possible for wardene governrnen t. We do not know us and Sri Lanka Government find on what. questions they talk but each to the necessary political solution beca_ time that happens we see more and any military solution or settling more intervention. I would like to know of sinhalese and in that area will not tJe whether our government is aware of the able to solve the problem for ever. contents of this visit, and if so, what Therefore, they have to come to the is the attitude of the Government. negotiating table. As the hOD lady What is the attitude of the Government member knows, India has offered its of India with regard to the role of good offices in this behalf and they USA? It is being stated that this is an were accepted. We hope that they will internal affair of Sri Lanka in which India continue the same line of tbintina is all the time interfering; thereby they and we continue to try to impresi upon are maligning our country's intention the Sri Lanka Government that a and also totally disrtgarding the actual political solution has to be found as realities. So, I would like to know early as possible~ this. What is the Government of India doing to educate WOI Jd public opinion on our stand? What are you doing to SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER.JEE; draw friendly countries, to keep them What are you doing,- for mobiJisinc informed, about our stand·! What public opinion on your stand aad what initiatives have you taken and what is your attitude towards the rGie tk more steps do you propose to take? I or USA Government ? This is a vital ques- say this because this will not end im- tion which I raised. m~diateJy. Lastly I would ]ike to ex- press the hope that a political settle- ment will be found. But it will not be SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN; that easy because the whole thing is I am sorry that the hon. lady Member not aimed at just pushing the Tamilians is not aware• that this matter bas ale•• out, but it is vitaJly connected with been taken note of in the UN Alscrabb India's securi ty and building pressure and other bodies. As far as USA against India and so I would like to know Government is concerned. thoy taG. what other poJiticaJ initiatives Govern- very wen what we want, that tlaue meat of India is contemplating. should be a political solution.

SHRI KHUR5HEED ALAM KHAN.: The bon Member has raised a SHllIMATI GBBTA MUltIlBR.lD; few questions. In the first instance I What is your assessment of tlieir wouJd like to say that the all parties role ? JANUAlly )2, It85 the }tres/d,nt's Addrels 280

SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM in this country-the Indian National KHAN : It is very difficult for me to Congress-which is celeberatina its say what they are doing behind the centenary in this year. These institutions scenes. and causes are shining monuments of her accomplishments and achievements SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS and it is our privilege to assist our MUNSHI : Are you aware that the young and dynamic Prime Minister to presence of American and Israeli agents carryon these causes and the institution is there and their spying agents are very and hand them over to the future gene- much active in Sri Lanka itself doing rations. This point of time cointides various things clandestinely? If so, wi th India's finest performance in eco- did you protest about it ? nomIc development and political demo- cracy. We should be legitimately proud to be Members of Parliament of the SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM largest democracy in the ·world. I say KHAN : This is a delicate question. finest performance in political demo- I would not like to express an opinion cracy because of the free and fair about it. manner in which the election were held. Our country is a 1arle country strechiDJ from Kashmir to Kanya Kumari and iD the West from Arabian sea to Bay of 16M brl. Bengal in the East. So, the p'recision wi th which the elections were held MOTION OF THANKS ON THE throughout the country had actually

9 stunned the whole worJd. The massive PRESIDENT S ADDRESS-Condt. majority with which the Indian National Congress was returned to power shows [Ellglish] that Indians have robust common sense and the sleeping giant of India has MR. CHAIRMAN Now, we will awakened in its critical hour when the resume discussion on the President's integrity of India was challenged and address. Mr. R. Prabhu. was at stake. A lot of people all over the word says tha t the masses in this SHRI R. PRABHU (Nilgiris) : country are illiterate and the literacy Madam, Chairman, I rise to support in this country is very low, but Indians the motion proposed by Prof. N G. have this robust commonsense and the Ranga in thanking the President for his people of India have risen up to the Address. The President in -his address occasion and voted in a uniform pattern was very comprehensive and at tbe same from North to South and from East to time precise end to point. We are West to show their fai th and trust in 1DeC1ini here after the- saddest event in the youthful leadership of the Prime the Indian History-the assassination Minister. They reposed their confidence of our area t leader, Sbrima ti Indira in the young and dynamic Jeadership of Gandhi. Madam, Chairman, every single Shri Rajiv Gandhi. Today, it is not person in this country felt that he had only the finest hour in the political Jost one of his or her own, be it a sccne but also the finest hour of econo- daulbter or mother or sister. Shrimafi mic scene. In another two months' Indira Gandhi in her lifetime had esta- period, we will be completing the ma. blished a firm system of administration mmoth Si'.xth Five Year Plan with an anet . institutionalised democracy. Her investment of nearly 105,000 crores of (oresiaht has resulted in deveJopments rupees. We have also achieved the plan in certain critical fields like adminis- target, that is, the arowth rate of 5.2% tration, foreian relations, planning, p.:.r annum. This is not a mean achieve. up) iftment of Harijans, weaker sections, ment. If we look at the overall scenario womena, welfare, etc. The list is endless or the world today, except America and A~e all. shc has sustained the alori: small countries lik.e HonakoDa aDd opt traditioQl of the ,reatest institutioQ Sinaapore. there has been a nCI.live 211 M IJtion 0/ Thank, on MAGHA 2, 190d (SAKA)

rate of growth of marginal rat e of poverty eradication programme. ill tbe Irowth in other countries. Our achieve- Seventh Five Year Plan period alia. ment in the Sixth Plan has been cODsis- tently remarkable in all sectors. Madam. tbe Seventh Plan is dedi- cated to the triple objective of food. Madam, Chairman, in this connec.. work and productivity. Here, I would tion, I would like to quote certain like to say a few words about producti- filures to show how remarkable the vity. I would like a re-evaluatiOD of achievements in various sectors are. the poverty eradication programmes especially the employment programme., Food production has increased by like the NREP and RLEGP to be nnder- more than 40~ taken, in terms of increasinl producti- vity. These prolrammes at pretent are Industrial production bas increased measur~d by the manda,s of emplo,- by more than 24% men t created. It should Dot be tb. Electricity seneration has increased number of mandays or the Dumber or by more tban 32% people employed, but tbe c;oncrete assets created and measures taten for iL Fertiliser and cement production Basically, I want a linkage between tbe bas increased by more than 50% needs of tbe community and assets created and employment provided. Petroleum production has increased by more than 100% As we al1 know. on tbe one ha•• in the villages there is need for school•• So, Madam, this is not a mean roads, medical facilitses and otber basic achievement. TQe increase in the needs. There is also the need of pro- prodution of commodities is because of viding employment to people, so that the policy-planning which has been they can go above the poverty line. I implemented over the past five years would like a better coordination of under the dynamic leadership of Shri- these two. And in this connection I mati Indira Gandhi. Not only this. should like to suggest to the GovernmeDt We have successfully implemented the that they should consider havina and 20·Point Programme for eradication of drawing up an integrated programme at poverty by providing the rural masses tbe vi l1age level on the work to be with various inputs facilities like edu- undertaken having regard to the supply_ cation. health, protected water supply, demand and requirements of the parti- bousing, etc. in the villages. cular communi ty. This may be eD- trusted to the local agencies, local bodies like the panchayats or may .. Our huge Plan expenditure under the even to cooperative bodies~ formed at various schemes like tbe Integrated village levels or district levels, to conti. Rural Development Programme, the nue these programmes. These cooperative National Rural Employment Programme bodies are subsidiaries of the lead banks the Rural Landless EmpJoymen t Guaran- in tbat particular district. I would lit. tee Programme, the Self-Employment to request the Government to consider Prolramme. the Hill Areas Develop- baving a seperate department here at meot Programme, the Drought-prone the Centre to coordinate and imple- Areas Programme, etc., are all the out- ment all these programmes. The basic come of the Twenty-point Programme. idea is to bring about integration bet- This bas slow)y transformed the rural ween the employment schemes aDd .... scene and all these innova·tive pro- integrated rur.al dev.loptoent ~~ ,ramme, in human resources develop- .rammes. ment will yield U9 ,reat.r dividends in the future, Madam. our yoUlll Prime MiDister My hum.le request to the hone is kcen to rcs,~t\lft tile e«»808Q'''' Pcimt Mhl'Iter is to continue these 283 Motion of .Thanks 011 JANUAllY 22, 1985

[Shri R. Prabbu] Before I conclude, ~ want to ¥y that the outlay in planniog is beiai bas a systems approach to most problems. stepped up substantially and takina I would request him to look at these aU our Plan outJays together we will poverty eradication programmes in be probably spending one million detail and try to take them more effec- crores of rupees in the half century tive and productive. When we talk of from 1950 to the year 2000. Because productiv!ty, we always talk about the of this expenditure India is going to public sector. But there is not much become a ~ig econmic power. time to talk about this aspect and there Under the able leadership of Shri is not much scope in this debate. Rajiv Gandhi we will enter the twenty- first cen tury as a deveJoped nation and I would restrict myself by mention- not as a developing nation. ing about one pub!ic sector unit ill my constituency, the Hindustan Photo DR. A. KALANIDHI (Madras Films, which has not done badly. This Central); Madam Chairman, at the . public sector uni t has stood the test of out set! would like to thank you and profitability and has started paying the Minister for Parliamentary Affairs dividends. It _has paid a dividend of for having given me time to exp- Rs. 50 lakbs 3nd it is the first public ress my views on the motion of sector uni t to pay such dividends after thanks to the Presiden t's Address. this Government has come. At present they are manufacturing cine positive It is apt]:,- mentioned in the Presi- black and white film, cine sound nega- dent's Address that Mrs. Gandhi has tive film, black and white bromide joined the ranks of the immortals of paper and medical x-ray films. This world history. My leader, Dr. K. involves high technology and high in- Karunanidhi, gave a fiolat tribute vestments. They have signed a collabo. on the day of the assassination of the ration agreement with Dupont of Prime Minister with the words that America for transfer of technology for 'Indian peninsula is not, floating on a substantive expansion of X-Ray Pro- water but floating on tears'. On be- ject, This colla bora tion is only with half of DMK I express my deepest India; they have not given this techno- syma thy to Mr. Rnjiv Gandhi and logy to anybody else. They have not other members of his family. entered into any collaboration agreement wi th any other country. They are giving I n the Pre iden t's Address it is technology to only us for the first time. mentioned tha t there i.; an unpreceden- This project has been planned for over ted mandatt: but ommitted the words a year and Dupont has agreed to set up 'unexpected mandate' , becau'se 1here this project at Ootacamund in Tamil was a war between the sympathy and Nadu. the reason. Sympathy has won and the reason has been defeated. That MR. CHAIRMAN: You hIve is why, today instead of stalwarts already taken ten m;nutes. PJea~e con- we are having ·starwarts' in this clude. House. I can only say that you bave misused the powers. Radio and tele- SHRI R. PRABH U: I request visi()d have been misused. In the last four that an amount of Rs. 160 crores for days prior to election the funeral ceremony for this project be provided in the of Mrs Gandhi was projected in every Seventh Plan and it be undertaken as nook and corner. Though the flood qaickly as pcssibJe. We are eagerly had caused havoc Joog back in Tamil awaiting the Prime Minister to come Nadu, the flood relie f measures like and Jay the foundation stone at Oota- dhoties, sarees, rice and money were c:amund, the Queen of the hill sta- liven only four days before the eJec- tjOBS. tjon. Anyhow, whatever has hapPtDtd, 2~~ Motion 0/ Thanks on MAG~A 2, 1006 (SAKA) the P,e,ident's Address 286

we bow before the verdict of the mente You have spread the net and people. As aptly said by Anna "Mak- you have caught all the fish and noth- kaJ Kurale Mahesan Kural" i.e. ingisle'ft to catch. Now, you are people's voice is God's voice. On bringing this anti-defection bill. bebalf of DMK I assure the hon. Prime Minister that we will support In Andhra Pradesh you have done all the progressive policies of the it. You created defection, encouraaed Government as we did earlier in the defection and toppled the Government. case of abolition of privy purses and In Jammu and Kashmir, you have di- nationalisation of banks. vided the famiJy by creating conflict between mother and daughter and It has been mentioned in the Presi- toppled the Jammu and Kashmir Go- dent's Address that the industrial vernment. production is increasing. What hap- pended in Tamil Nadu 1 When Dr. 17.00 hrs. K Karunanidhi was the Chief Minis- te;, we occupied the third position. Having got the fishes, ~you are Unfortunately, today we have gone now bringing in the Anti-Defection ... ~ down to the 13th pOSJllon. Is it Bill. This is just like Devil quoJing because of the fact that the GQvern- the Scripture. By quoting the Scrip- ment of Tamil Nadu bas not shown ture, it does not cease to be a Devil ; any keen interest in setting up new it continues to remain a Devll. But, industries of developing infrastruc- whatever it may be, I definitely sup- tures necessary for the industry? Or is port, on behalf of the DMK Party, it because of the fact that the Centre the Anti-Defection Bill, provided the is refusine to gran t proposa Is that sugge~tions put forward by tbe op- have been sent by the AIDl\IK Go- position parties are taken into consi- vernment ? Irrespective of party affilia- deration and lacunae in the Bill are tions I I equest the hon. Prime removed. Minister to have sympathy with Tamil Nadu. Do not forget that Tamil Coming to uniform ecu~ation Nadu is included in the I~dian policy, in Tamil Nadu there is mush- m a P . Restore it back to the third room growth. of polytechnics an~ place by gr~: nting more industries. Please do not give room to tbe people engineering colleges. j f you give to say that north is flourishina and Rs. 10,000, you will get admission to ,south is deteriorating. a polytechnic and if you give Rs. 30,000 you will t get adrnbsion to an engineering colleg~. _ 1 am a fraid, a I am very happy that this Go- stage will come ... vernment is committed to give clean public life u;llike the Prime Minister'6 mother who had said in this House SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Go. that corruption was a global pheno- bichallepalayam): Sir, I stroDgly menon. I am quite happy that Mr. Rajiv protest aga inst ..• Gandhi is going to commit himself for a clean Government. DR. A. KALANIDHI Let him raise his objection after I have finished The initiative which h.! has taken to my speech. I am not yielding. This book these culprits who were indu). -f.,ng in espionage activity in the Prime is a fact. Let him contracdict me. M'jnilter's Secretariat, clearly shows I chal1eDlc him. I will resign my seat jf I am proved to be making a wrona that be is going to have a clean Government. statement. Now I am not yielding.

With regard to Inti... detection Bin, MR. CHAIRMAN: You need Dot I lupport the move of the Govern- repeat what )'ou have .aid. JANUAllY 22, 1985

SHRl P. KOLANDAIVELU : Sir. I since the President has referred to the rise OD a point of order. Education education policy. he can spoak on it. comes under the purview of the State He may continue his speech. Go\Jerninent. It cannot be discussed Itere. DR A. KALANIDHI: In order t. improve the standard of education it DR. A. KALANIDHI : It is in the is better that the Central Govern- toncurrent subject. He is a new ment prevent such mushroom growth Kember that is why he is not a ware of polytechnics and engineering CG). of that. It is mentiened in the leses. If this trend continues. a President's Address. stage may come when the diplomas and degress will be brought at the do. SMRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER orstep for a certain amount ef (Banaalore South): The President has money. meationed it in IDS Address. So, it caB be referred to. The President has spoken about th'" minorities. In this regard I would SHRI ERASU A YY APU REDDY request the Prime Minister to take up (XurnooJ); The new education policy the recommendations of the Mandai has been clearly mentioned in the Commission Report. Only when he President's Address. Therefore, the implements tbem the backward com- hon. Member is entitled to refer to it. munities and sections will get comple- It i. relevant. Apart from that, educa- tely up1ifted. tion i. in the Concurrent List. As regards the upliftment of women SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: The and their welfare, I am happy that you policy of the Union Government on are going to give free education up to education is yet to be brought out. the higher secondary level, but here We can have a discussion only after I would like to point out tha t when it has been framed. Now the hone great leader K. Kamraj was the Member is speaking about the admini- Chief Minister of the State he mad. ItratioD in the State, which cannot be it free upto school final. Later when discussed here. KaJai~nar Karunanidbi became the Chief Minister of the State, the free education scheme was extended up to A. KALANIDHI: I have DR. PUC. Now, Rajiv Gandhi is taking it e\'cn right to speak on standardisation up to the higher secondary level tor of education. girls and we congratulate him on tbat step. StlRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: The Itandard of education in Tamil Nadu i. higher than in other Slates My hone AN HON. MEMBER: In Tamil friend, Dr Kalanidhi is cri ticisina Nadu we are doing it upto the de,ree the standard of education and ma- level. lpractices in the State. If there is aa, malpractice in the State, my sub. DR. A. KALANIDHI; You have mission is that he has to submit some declared 1985 as the year or the youth, records to prove that malpractices are but you have not done anything for loinlOD. Apparently, he has not got the youth. They are in a frustrated any reeords to substantiate his char- mood. There at'«' youths who have ,0. I' ,raduatc or even post araduatc dc,reel and still they are uDemployed. Am MR. CHAIRMAN: I will give tbe M.Sc. Youth came to me the other da, mUfti. A. far as the malpractices in for tbe appointmcnt of an Attendant'. the administration are concerned. I do post. So, I would request the Go- tot thiDk we can discull them. But. Yernment to prepare a plan wbereby sample opportunities for employment that it is more than the event which are provided to the youths. we viewed some time back. We shouJcI not lose sight of the fact that our Tamil people are perishinl there and In regard to the Ganga and Cau- there is a deliberate decimating of the very waters, I would suggest that it Tamilians by the SihaIi chauvinists IhouJd be linked up so that the sur- under the regime of the police hooli- plus water can be diverted and barren gans and the outrageous army. "indly l.ad can be made fertile. intervene. Do not think that demccl- ing Tamil Eelam is separatism.

Another point I want to mention is a bout the Sri Lanka issue. Eth- It is the birthright of the Tamilians nic violence is continuing to erupt of the Ceylon. So, it is the duty of the there and the Tamils are suffering. Government to directly inter an. I do not know why the people at support the Tamil Eelam LIberati •• the Centre are neglecting this issue. Movement. . Ne we a different race in this coun- try? It has been reported that preg- nant women's abdomen were ripped open, t~e foetus were pulled out and dashed against the ground and SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA crushed with the buckled heels of the (Berhampore): Madam, I ri.. t. armymen. The Sinhalese are out support the Motion of Thanks on the to exterminate the Tamils. The Jaya- PreSident's Address. This is my flrst wardene Government is ruling with speach in the august Lok Sabha and I the convivane of the police hooligans convey my greetings through you to all and outrageous army. How long you the Members of the Lok Sabha. I want us to wait '1 support the Motion of Tanks because it not only conveys a lot of hope for the future, but also enumerates the Here I would like to quote from tremendous achievements made durin, the London Times of January 1985 tbe last decade or so under the able which was reproduced by the News stewardship of our late beloved Prime Today. It is captioned "It's plain Minister, Shrimati Indira Gandhi. terror, says Times" "It says there is Madam, the prestige of this country • reign of terror let loose on under ber able stewardship has risea the Tamils and there is sky-high and as you all knGw, she was 80 chance for the TamiJians to live also the Chairperson of the Don.aligned in that country as Army zoolum is movement and as Chairperson of that there". In 1971 what happened was movement, she has achieved a reputa. that there was no genocide, no mass tion in the whole world which has no murder. In spite of that in East parallel, I think, in the whole JUsto.., Pakistan the Government of India of India. Madam, there is anOlher took: a direct decision to encourage Ireat achievement which the entire the Bast Pakistanis. to free Banglades h. world should appreciate and that is that In 1974. along with Rumania and we have been in India foUowina tbe Yugoslavia India pressed the UN Se- tradition of democracy in the true curity council to establish peace in sense of the term since Independence. Cyprus. During 1971 Sardar Swa. You look to the countries all around ran Singh who was in the External us, viz, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other Affairs Ministry stated that the state. countries. They are aU under totali· ment of Yahya Khan only made the tarian regime whereas in India we are people to revolt and aet tbe liberetioD havinl elections relulerly after an ja- of Ea.t 'akistea. So, we should soc torval of ftve years and this clemocrati. 29i M{)tion of 'i hanks on jANUAiv 22, 1~8S

[Silri Atish Chandra Sinha] drought all over the country. the food production goes down. Therefore, the Government should take very stron, tradition, I think, is a very healthy steps on the one hand to go in for one and this has been also proved by more irrigation so that drought may the last general elections where the not affect food production much and Congress has got a very huge majority, on the other hand, for flood protection. This proves that the people of India For irriga tion, I think there is still a wanted a uni ted India and a very vast scope for the exploitation of under- strong Government which will keep ground water for going in for more India that way and I think that we all, lift tubewells and so on. But so far as irrespective of our party affiIia tions, flood protection is concerned, I think should try to see that India remains the Government should be very car~ful united and all the problems that W~ and pay more attention to it. are facing today in Punjab, in Assam and also in Sri Lanka are solved, I 17.14 hrs. think this Government wi th its clear mandate under the leadership of our [SHRI NISSANKARA RAO VEN. YOUDa Prime Minister would be able to KATARATNAM in the Chair] solve. these problems as quickly as possible. I am very glad to note that Some of the projects that have been our young Prime Minister has taken taken up for flood protection should be very strong steps; he set to solve at least the problem of Punjab as soon as quickly implemented. I will give an this Government is formed, and I a~ exampJe. In my area which is Kandi in Murshidabad District of West Bengal, sure with tbe cooperation of all people, which is frequented by floods almost this problem of India would be solved every alternative year, a huge amount in no time. of crop is lost through flood and there was a proposal in 1972-77 when there Madam, it is a matter of great was a Congress Government in West satisfaction that the foodgrains produc- Bengal to have Siddheswari dam. This tion, as has· been mentioned in the dam required negotiation with the Bihar President's Address, has r~ached a very Government, but the negotiation has. high position of 151.5 million tonnes, been going on since 1973 and we are but at the same time we will remind now reaching 1985. No negotiation has the Government that we should not been completed. I am sure if the dam remain complacent about it because still is completed, not only 10.000 acres of I think the (oodgeains production land in the districts of Birbhum and depends to a sreat extent on the Murshidabad will be irrisated, but also vagaries or nature., If we have a very this will stop tho ftood in Kancli. lood rain in one season, the (oodgraill production lOCI up hiah; if there i. I 29j Motion 0/ ThQnkl on MAGHA 2. 1906 (SAKA) the President', AdrJresI 294

But I am srprised that these schemes can we think that we can remove are so tardy in their implementation poverty? So, I feel and I am sure that the flood protection pro- that the Government is alive to the gramme is not yet implemented in situa tion. But more positive steps that area. So, I would request th- have to be taken. I do not know rough you, Mr. Chairman, Sir, to the how-may be by more incentives, or Government to see that these by some other means, by more programmes which are very important propaganda or more initiatives. These for flood protection are implemented as programmes shouid be vigorously im- quickly as possible b~cause if you can plemented. give flood protection, you can really save crores and crores rupees worth I would just mention one thing. In of crops. At that time in 1973, I knew the Eastern sector. we have been fight- that this project would have cost ing for a nuclear power station only Rs. 10 crores. But with the for a long time -may be in West escalation of prices in every field, it Bengal, may be in Bihar, . may be in might go up to Rs. 20 erores. I do Or issa, may be in Assam side, we not know. But if once it is implemen- do not mind. Hardly there is any nu- ted, then a huge amount of crop would clear power station in the Eastern be saved almost every y~ar. So, this sector whereas in India we have it in sort of programmes for flood protec- the North, we have it in the South tion in different areas should be very and 'we have it in the West. If seriously and very quickly implemented. there is a nuclear power station in Otherwise, there would be ~ serious the Eastern sector, industries based on laps which a poor country like India high technology can come in. But cannot afford. unfortunately, the objection of the Atomic Energy Commission so far. Sir, I would like to mention one was that coal was available in the thing. I have been listening to the Eastern sector. But I understand that rt speeches of many bon. Members for c~ntjy that restriction has been removed the last two or three days and many of by the Atomic Energy Commission. So, them have mentioned about family I would request through )tou to the planning. Great importance should Government that in Eastern sector, a be given to this programme. As you nuclear power station be planned and know, the economic growth is hardJy installed as quickly as possible. or at the maximum. But the 3% 4% There was a proposal from our side popula tion growth is also 3%~very year .. when were in the West Bengal Go- So, it is like the story of a monkey go. vernment from 1972 to 1971 to have ing up a slippery pole. It goes up 2 feet 'one in . Midnapore district in D.lnton and comes down another 2 feet or to be in particular. But unfortuna- slips down another 2 feet. There is tely nothing has happened so far. hardly any progress. So, the family Since the restriction of the Atomic planning programme should be streng- Energy Commission has been remo- thend and of course, I know the effect ved, I wou1d request the Government of family planning which was pushed through you to give a very serious through during emergency. I think, thought to it. we should not make any mistake of this sort. But at the same time we should not undermine the impor. I would just mention one more tance of these measures which are thing and I will conclude my speech. vital for the development of India. As you know, in West Bengal, one Everybody is talking of Removal of of the greatest problems is industrial poverty and so on. But how can the sickness. This industrial sickness is poverty be removed without the control due to many factors, because of the on the population 7 We are adding the present State Government's attitud., population of AustraHa each year and the power shortage. Union rivairy if thi, is the situation in India, bow and thinBs like that. But the essence of JANUAIt Y 22, l'3S the Pr~lident" Addr." 291

[Shri Ati.h Chandra Sinha] Firstly, we must tate up the r.- lional balance in the development. the whole thina il lakhs and lakhs of Certain States like Orissa are eCODO- workers are out of job. Unless some- micaJJy backward for historical rea- tbing is done to revive those industries sons. A conscious effort for prefer- in West Bengal, I think, the econo- entia) Central investment in these mic development of the whole country areas, that is, in industry. jnlra- would be jeopardised. Therefore,I would structllre and Central projects would request through you to the Government be very appropriate. . So also the that the sick industries in West Benaal schemes for Central assisstance should .hould be taken care of by the Govern- be provided to such backward ment and I am lure with that the States. proSreSi of the whole CO\)Dtl'J wo.JtI also tate place. Cornin, to the rural ,outh and un- employed, 1985 is the International Sir, with thele wor4s, I thaak you Year for the Youth. There is a vast youth. very much and I allo support the potentia I in our rural areas and there Motion of Thanks on the President's should be a suitable national pro- Addr.sl. aramme which should be organised to tap this encrlY for productiv. work. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAJK (Cuttack): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support tbe Motion of Thanks on I am arateful to our Prime the President's Address which is Minister who has created a aeparat e crisp and concise and which refJects Ministry for women '5 welfare. Free the basic philosophy of Shri Rajiv education for girls and framinl of a Gandhi's Government, his sincerely, at national programme for women are reform and restoration of confidence historic It is high time that SPl- in Public life and institutions and tack- ciaJ opportuni ties should be opened ling of national problems. for the employment of and lelf-em- ployment for women. The New Parliament joins the griev- ins nation in paying homage to the grea test leader and state men of our Coming to the poverty amelioration times, Shrimati Indira Gandhi. We programme, it needs a new direction. should take an opportuni ty in retrieving The IRDP bas created self confidence our trust and confidence to our new among the rural folk. It need. a leader who has come to symbolise the new direction, because the hopei and aspirations of the people of emphasis is on subsidy Instead of our country. actual creation of assets. That has created difficulties and has affected the banking structure. In my view, Our socio-political system is cryina the amount spent on subsidy can be for a thorough cha nge and Shri Rajiv more usefully spent on making the loan Gandhi has taken in administrative, ju- interest free and waiver of a part or dicial and educational reforms. the loan after repayment of the other portion, This reform will strengthen The President has mentioned eur the banking structure, improve the achievements in various fields in the rural productivity and reduce the scope last five years. We are at tbe thres- fer corruption. bold of the Sevent Plan which pre- lents a unique opportunity for locio- .conomic development makin, bold The President has mentioned about f:banae. from the past. based on our the Nationa) Forest Policy and ma.sive palt experience. plantation pro,rall')lJle tltr.... 297 Motion 0/ Thanks 011 MAGHA 2, 1906 (SA1G4) the President's Address 298

the Waste Land Development Board. ment should take, before it entars office, This prQgramme has an added advan- is)o take the oath of office and atso or tage of giving large employment op- secrecy. This Government has violated portuni ties in the rural areas. I would the basic precepts of our constitution also urge for a comprehensive planni ng and the obligation cast upon the Go- for meeting rural energy requirements vernment by the constitution. I' would by tapping different sources of re- like to read out tde relevent clauses of newable an non-renewable energy sour.. the constitution. ces. "Before a Minister en ters upon his office the President The Bhopa! tragedy has heightened shall administer to bim the our consciousness for environmen t oath of office and secrecy." protection measures to go hand with industrialisation. In my view, urgent amendment of the Air Pollu- "Administer to himH, this will be tion Control Act and Water Pollution individuaI1y and seprately done and Control Act should be undertaken to not in a col1ective and wholesale and make them more effective. mass scale, which will amount to vio- la tion of the spiri t and policy of the Consitution. Another aspect that comes to my mind. in this connection, is that de- veleoped countries and multinational Therefore, my first sub:nission is corpora tions are tne habit of passing that this Government, soon after enter- on obsolete technologies to developing ing office, has first of all flouted the countries which are eager to go in Constitution and the spirit and the pro- for technological help. visions of the Constitution. This This Government has come into office with such auguries and began its functions. In my view, this tendency calls for concern and would remind you that appropriate technical authorities at the It incidentally leads me on to an- Central level should scrutinise the re- other aspect. The Constitutional vali. levance and efficacy of all such imported dity and legality is that a Government technology before it is put to use in our assumes office and performs functions and is responsible to the country and country. answerable to the House.

From the point of view of orwellian A Government which does not take predictions, 1984 was a year~of tragedy office. as laid down in the Constitution, and anguish. Fortunately ~ 1985 has has no constitutional and le&al validity. emerged with new hopes and fresh This is the submission that I would like aspirations. Now, the national rmood to make. is one of reconciliation, solidarity and progress. The whole nation stands be- The President of India arrived in hind Shri Rajiv Gandhi to bring about the Parliament House in the a national transforn1ation. traditional method of all time pomp and grandour in the chariot drawn by We all should join and give full six horses, duly accompanied by moUD. support and strength to our now leader ted body guards. This is not in con- in his endeavours, sonance with the spirit of the times. Perhaps this is reminiscent of tbe im- With these words, I support this perialist trends or the bourgeois or feu- Motion of Toanks. dal or by gone royal and regal order. Therefore, all the taU talk about the 21st Century and al1 that is in conffict SHRI S~M. BHATTAM (Visakhapat- with whatever bas happened. It is in- nam): Sir. the first stepthat any Govern- compatible, it is irreconcilable and it 2J9 Motion 0/ TIIQks 011 JANUAl.yaa, )985 the ]Jresldent's Addr"s 300

[Shri S.M.tBhattam ] powers. But, basical1y, the problem of poverty, and misery of the. deeming does not fit in with the present practice millions has got to be solved, has of the President coming in chariot with got to be tackled, and this cannot pomp and Bl ory • be done through sophisticated, wester- Therefore, what I urge is that the nised capital-intensive methods and young Prime Minister who has assumed technology. This fact has got to be office and raised so many hopes, by the taken into consideration. time we reassemble here for a similar purpose, see to it that this practice is This leads me to another aspect, given up in favour of a more modern namely, concentration of economic practice which is in keeping with the power in a few hands. You find that spirit of the times. there is concentration in a few hands, and poverty is stalking at the doors of When I refer to . the chariot, when the teeming mill~ons in this country. I refer to the coach drawn by the hor- The top one per cent households in ses, I am reminded of the bullockcart the country hold 14 per cent of the economy which we are having today. national wealth whereas the bottom The century old system of hand-plough- 50 per cent households account fOf ing, ploughing with the help of bullocks less than seven per cent of and bullock-carts, is obtaining in this the national wealth. These are not country, Can we give it up? Is it figures which I am gi ving readi Iy from possible to replace it with a modern out of my memory. The hon. Minis- technology without jeopardising the job ter for Finance, some years ago, has potential and opportunities for the given these figures on the fJoor of this teeming millions of the people in the august House and I am just quoting country-side? It is not possibJe. So, them. Wealth and prosperity has been we are resorting to the time old, cen- cornered by the fortunate and favoured tury old practice. There is no other few. The fruits of development do not alternative to that. percolate to the bottom. The 1977- 78 figures were given by the Minister I would like to refer to another of Planning which I quote: 48 per small matter which may be of a consi- cent of the people live below fhe derable importance for us. Yo go and poverty-line, and more than 30 crores see the countryside. There is no Java- of people get less than Rs. 65/- per tory facility for the womenfoJk, they month. How then do you make a dent have no modern tojlet faci lity. In lakhs into the picture of abject poverty and and n·:ks of vi llages, our womenfolk misery of the deeming millions in this have got to sit on the road-side to . country? They cannot give even a answer their caUs of nature, because morsel of food for their children even if there is no modern toilet facility. This the) ~reak their bones. These are the is a very shameful situatioD, and we conditions of object poverty and mi- are responsible for it. That being so, sery which is stalking the land from when we expose our womenfolk to K'ashmir to Kanyakumari. such hunliJiating, degrading, inhuman and uncivilized conditions,what is the re- The Prime Minister or, perhaps, levance of the talk of taking the country the President in his Address has scru- to the Twenty-first Century? Therefore, pIously avoided~ I do not know there are certainurgent tasks to which whether it was deliberately or other- this Government should immediately wise-the word 'socia1ism'. Nowhere address itself. Forgetting them, we in the text of his Address. on any will not be able to do any justice to page, can we see the word 'socialism'. tbe people at aU. I have very carefully gone through the Addrss. You may send people to Antarctica. You may of8anize space Bights in coJ- This would take me on to another Jaboration with some friendly major topic of national interest. In the jOj Ai otion of Thanks 011 case of villages, we have got a ceiling have turned to hardly SO per cent on agricultural holdings and properties. and could have been reduced to 50% Does it. mean that in urban areas and that is nearly a very poor per- people can grow richer whereas in centage. rural areas the people have got to be subjected to eternal and perpetual So taking in to consideration all poverty? Why not fix a ceiling on these things, if I come to the Presi- urban income also? This should be dent's Address, according to me it is done. The urban people also should the worst kind of anti-climax. Anti- be subjected to some such ceiling. This climax in the sense that the econo- is merely not an era of ceiling but mic problems of the common man if is also an era of flooring. You have been referred to in a light have got to ensure necessarily a mini- vein. If we come to the rise in pri· mum income-a minimum income to ces, what does the President's Address the people. Unless the fiQor is also say? I t says thut the rise is not fixed and p'?ople 1i fted a bove the that high as it was b~fore. It is not ex· poverty line, there is no point in pected from the new government which having ceiling and it is m':aningless to is suppose to have won a massive man .. talk about taking the country into the date to treat the price rise so light1y. 21st century, On the contrary, people expect that some stren measures wil1 be taken Here again I would like to urge that by the Government to bring down the it is within the possibility and they prices. But, instead of giving a defi- must have som~ broad ratio-say 1 : 20 ni te assurance to the common or I : 21. Some su'..:h ratio should b~ man of bringing down prices, here the fixed. Unless that IS dont, there could President bas simply said _ that the be no egalitarian society ... Therefore prices are not that high. That is no the question is one of reducing the sa tisfactlon to the common people. disparity in in:omes. So, the question of reducing the inequalities in incomes Then about unemployment. The should also receive the immediate at- new Prime Min:st er is very much int~r­ tention of the Government. Unless ested in new te-.:hnJlogy and moderni- the Government apolies j tself whole. sation. There is nothing wrong to be heartedly to the task of bringing in a interested in technology and moderm- socialis t order, there is no possibility sation. But as we have read in news- of ameJiorating the conditions of the papers, he is said to have declared that peole of this country. preference should be given to the pri ~'atc sector for the purpose of production SHRI D. B. l'A TIL (K01aba): J in preference to the public sect I r. Here rise here to oppose the motion of I am worried about the unemt>loyment thanks moved by Prof. Ranga. problem. So far as the private see {or is concerned, if they adopt mOderni. sation and modern technology, there I heard Here have every Con- win be no scope for more employmen t gress Member. He is elated and happy in that sector and if there is no scope for the grand success th.1t ,the Con- in that sector, then tbe unemployment gress Party achieved in the Lok problem wi)) be as it is DOW. On the Sabha election. We accept the victory contrary, it will be aggravated by this of the Congress Party and also accept policy of the Government. the defeat of the Opposition. But if we analyse the so-caJled massive man- date' of the electorate, it cannot be I win come to a new point. That is said I massive' in the rea) sense b~­ about the Mandal Commission. In our cause the votes polled are hardly SO per country, there are Scbeduled Tribes and cent. Had there been a proportio- Scheduled Castes to the extent of 20Y-. Dal representation system in our coun- There arc otber classe$ aJao "lao are , trYr thOD tlae ....,iYe mljoritl couJd IducatioDll11 aDd .oc:ill., baetward .1Id 303 Motion 0/ Thanks on JANUARY 22, t~85

(Shri D. B. Patil] reflects the policy of the Central govern- ment. would to say that to examine this point who are edu- I like until and unless agriculturists get proper cational1y and socially backward, Man- prices the economy of this country dai Commission was appointed in the which is mainly a,.sricultural cannot be year 1979 and the MandaI Commission stable and strong. had submitted i1s report in December, 1980. This report was submi tted to Shri Zail Singh, the then Home With these few words I conclude. Minister and at present President of India. While laying this Report on the [Translation] Table of the Hous~ the then Home Minister had said: PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI SHA. "In the light of the above, the KTAWAT(Chittorgarh): Mr. Chairman, Central Government have forwarded Sir, I support the Motion of Thanks on the Report of the Commission to the the President's Address, very kindly given various State Governments for by him. 1985 is the Year of the Youth obtaining their views. On receipt and the great people of our country of their replies the Central Govern- have begun this year on a happy note ment will give further consideration by giving the reins of the country in to the Report of the Backwa rd the hands of our young Prime Minister. Classes Commission with a view to formulating their views on the Sir, the confidence of the people is various recommendations contained one of our greatest heritage and I in the Report." personally believe that the way the new Government have started their work, Although four years have passed yet it would certainly enabJe us to mould no action has been taken by the ourselves according to the aspirations Government. Many a time in the past of the people. The three point pro- Questions were asked and it was in- gramme of our Hon. Prime formed that a sub-committee of Secre- Minister, vi:., honesty, efficienc) and taries or the Cabinet had been appoin- result, will certainly go a long way in ted but without any results. It is dis- pushing the country forward and it appOlnJng. According to this report would also enable us to mould the the backward classes population is to 21st Century India into a modern and the tune of 2 per cent and althougb tbe a developed nation. recommendations of this Commission pertain to such a large section of our Sir, the bi ggest problem of our population, yet no action has been country is the problem of poverty. We taken on that. I would like to know shall have to bring certain basic changes, whether the Prime Minister is aware of particularly in our economic policy in this Report and that it covers 52 per order to eradicate poverty. I wclcomethe cent of our population. new programmes which have been for- mulated to solve the problem of un- Lastly, Sir, a word about remune- employment and I specifically welcome rative prices to the agricultural pro- the proposed changes in the education ducers, Here it has heen mentioned system and I would alsolike to make tbat remunerative prices are given to some suggestions in this regard in brief. the agricultural producers. My ex- Sir, our education should be job. perience has been that although Maha- oriented. Instead of giving guarantee rashtra Governmen t recommended for a degree, education. must provide higher prices on our demand examining iuarantee for employment. We should the cost of production than the prices enforce the thre~ language formula. fixed by APC ye~ the Centre did not so tbat we could move forward towards accept the recommendations of the national integration. In our country f,taharashtra Government. This clear)y education faUI in the Concurrent List 305 M olion 0/ Thanks on MAGHA 2 1~ (SAKA) thtl President', Addresf j06

I would like to susgest that upto the been worst affected due to this shortage higher secondary level education should of electricity. It has affected industry be a state subject and so far as as -well as agriculture· in the State. university and college education is Atomic Power Plant, which is situated concerned, it should be the subject of at Kota, is always out of order. This the Union Government. Only then, we plant has been constructed according shall be able to implement the policy of to Canadian technology. The whole in.. universal education for national in- fra-structure is available there and if tegration. Girls' education is free upto Government propose to establish two higher secondary level, which is quite uni ts there as has been done in the inadequate. I would like to request case of Kalapakkam; the electricity pro- tbat this should be made free upto blem in Rajasthan can be solved university level. If this is done, it thereby. would be a commendable step. Crores of rupees are spent on education. But The drinking water problem in doctors and engineers etc. who take Rajaslhan is also quite acute. I would their technical education here, go to like to request that special provision foreign countries. This brain-drain should be made for this basic need in should be minimis:.:d. It should rather our ensuing budget. Besides this, I be stopped. Manual labour should also would like to say tbat we are feeling be linked with education. Our leader the shivers of cold .. war at the borders H SO)t. Gandhi had said, "Shremes-Jayte of our country. To check this, we (Labour brings victory). Through this should continue to make special efforts. we can effect a new change in educa- We shouJd a 1so be concerned about tion. We have the example of Japan the American aid being given to before us. Although they do not have Pakistan. Today, the champion of world natural resources, yet they have cap- peace, our leader Shrimati Indira tured the world market. In this way, Gandhi, is no more amongst us, but jf we link educa tion with labour, ou r the whole publIc believes that our hone country will certainly progress. As Prime Minister has inherited the same regards industries, our country is very qualities. Sufficient progress bas been backward. There are abundant natural made during this rule. Welcoming the and mineral resources in our country. solution to the Assam and Punjab pro- We can plan our industries on the basis blems as also the lO-Point Programme of that. Abundant deposits of mica, iron, tha t he has offered, I support the and coal are available in our country. Motion. Thorium is also availabJe in ~ufficient quantity for producing atomic energy. I would like to request that we sbaJl [English} have to adopt mixed economy. Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru had started the SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN cooperative movement by according (Cooch Behar) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I priori ty to priva te and public sectors. am very sorry that I could not be We shall have to link this cooperative present in the House when my name movement with industries. In case the was calJed. I was sitting in the lobby industries are decentraJised, we can at that time because I have been suffer- progress more. In my constll uc:ncy large ing from fever and the air-conditioning deposits of zinc are availabJe near system in the House is not congenial to Chittorgarh. The establishment of super my condi tion. zinc sme} ter there has been under con- sideration for a long time. By con.. sidering this in the Seventh Five Year First of aJl I would like to deal with Plan. work can be created for tbe the same paragraphs which have been poor and unemployed youth of that referred to by 'so many people on the area. Another factor responsible for Congress side. Sir, it is said that in the backwardness of our industries is the 1984 Lot Sabha election, those who *bortaac of .1ectriQi t)' • R.aja s thaD has are sittinl on your. riaht .. side ,lot a 30' Motion of Tj,Qnk~ on

[Shri Amar Roypradhan] MR. SPEAKER : You please con. elude. massive mandate from the people and the Congress.I are in a brute nlajority in this august House. I do not know what SHRI AMAR RO\ PRADHAN : they mean by massive mandate. Sir, they say that the electorates have They should not forget that given them a massive mandate. That they got only 48% of' votes and 52% is not correct. had. voted against them. (Interruptions) If there was proportional represen- SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN tation, do }OU know what would have (Jabalpur) Mr. Speaker, Sir, I been your fate? (Interruptions) You am VI~ry grateful to you for giving me say that you got these votes for your this opportuni ty to spea k for the first policy of Natjonal integration. (InterruptIons). Tilen, I w,Juld like to time in this Father of the Parliaments. I am vcry much a w~ re of the honour know from the hon. Prime Minister which has been bestowed on me by my whether he thinks that this 5 ~/o who people who have elected me and made have cast their votes against the me their rerresenta tive: in this honour- Congress.I are anti-national. able House. (Inter ruptions) I would say, certainly not. Then, may I know why you got defeated in Andhra Pradesh, Tripura I stand here to sUPPJrt the motion and Jammu and Kashrnir?(lnterruptions) of Thanks to the Ra~h!rapatiji. The you say that your victory is against Year 1984 has been aptly described in communalism, casteism and separatism. the Address as the year of turbulence. Then, may I know why you had a grand I will even like to say that this tur- alliance wIth Tripura Upajati Sangh in bulence has started in 11..)77 when essenti- Tripura ? In Tami I nadu .... you had alli- ally small people w~re projl.?cted into a ance with the AIADMK, in Jammu and parody of greatness. And we saw a Kashmir you had alliance with National Government of turbulence, actions of Conference (M) and in Kerala, you had turbuiencc, but history has its own alliance with the Muslim League. wicked ways and a time came when we (Interruptions) came back to power under the leader· ship of our grea t immortal Indira 17.52 hrs. Gandhi. We as students or young peo- ple read and study history. There are [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] some learned people, historians who write history. But we were very fort- SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: unate to have a le~der who made Some people think that it is due to history, who not only made history, but Indira wave the Congress-I has been she created nations. And, whatever returned to power. But it is not so. reference has been made in this House, The main reason for their victory is as well as in the Address to the late due to money power. [Interruption]. Prime Minister, I stand to support each word of it. MR. SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record. There should not be ~ny personal allegations against anybody. There are times when people can (Interrupt ions)·· tolerate tyranny, but there are times and there are leaders who do not SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: succumb to wrong ideals and that is Sir, I have got photographs what our leader stood for between 1977 (Interruptions) and 1980. It was in 1980 that our leader put the nation back on the path MR. SPEAKER: Don't record. of prosperity, development and strenath. This will not form part of the record. And it is only the result of her leader .. (lnlerruptions)· • ship that today we stand at the take-off ,taa' when Dot onJ1 we aro prop'rill, JO, Motion of Thank, on MAGHA • 1906 (SAKA) th~ Pre,jdent's Add'ea, 310

ourselves to enter the twenty first atmosphere, where we can help the century. but we are going to look young people in identifying themselves. modern. we are going to look stronger. Today there is complete lack of identity And all our party's contributions to for young men and women. It is not the nation building are a part of only education, which wil1 make our history. I must congratulate our new young people happy, vigorous and and young Prime Minister who at the nationalistic; it will have to be some- time of the tragedy and assassination, thing beyond the degree; it wil1 have te stood like a rock between a country be something more tban the job of LDC shattering into pieces and a country or sub-inspector. I suggest that we must coming back to senses of solidarity. have an identity of the people, we must That was the time when Delhi could make our young people synchronise have burnt and fuI1 credit must go to their aims and objectives with the the new, young but dynnmic Prime development of the country, particularly Minister who made Delhi see sense and in the rural areas. We have got today create an atmosphere of peace, friend- in our country a young Prime Minister. ship and brotherhood. And tha t is I am very sure, under his stewardship, where we started our elections. Lot of we will .go further and the frustration ballyhoo is being made about rigging, of the young people will be tackled money and muscle and of power. I am successfully. very sure my hOD. friends, my bon. elders on the other side also know that there is something like people's power: In the end, I only wish to say that People power they were praising tbe Government stands to be given an the congratulations for corning out with sky high in 1977, and DOW they forget very practical and with very ambitious about tbe power of the people in 1984. nation-buJldi ng plans. I only hope I have nothing much to say except that that~ so far as rural areas are concerned, we must star c tC'~ether not on Jy for the more priority wi)) be given to the unity and integrity of the country but schemes, like drinking water and electri- also for the s('cu ri ty of the coun try. It city and whatever we can do by way of is not only th;; sccuri ty of the terri t0ry ~ developing the identity of the young it is not on ly the securi ty of men and people. material but eVen for the securi~y of information to which our Prime Minister is most sensitive and most I thank you for giving me an alert. We wi 11 have to have a complete opportunity to speak. sense of alertnl'ss in \\hatever dealings with docun1cnts and men we have to do THE PRIME !\UNISTER (SHRI at the highest Je\'d of the Government RAJIV GANDHI) : Mr. Speaker~ Sir, of Ind ia. And it is a rna tter of grea t I would like to first thank the President pride that no hush hush has been made for his Address. I thank aU the of this scanda Ion which the Prime Members that participated in this de- Minister made a stJ !cmcnt on the floor bate for their contribution. Unfor- of the House and which was fUT ther tunately, I was not able to spend as clarified by the honourable Heme much time as I would have liked to Minister. here, in this House listening to the debate, because of certain issues that So far as our aims and our am- came up. just, during these days, and I bitions for the ccming five years are know you wiJl understJnd. But I have concerned, I, with your permission, Sir, heard many of the speeches in my room wish to lay emphasis on only on three on the loud-speaker, and I have been points. We are talking a Jot about given notes of most of the others. 16.00 lus. unemployment, about the frustration of the young people. I think what we Our friends, si tting across from me, require from the educational and youth have spent most of their time dwelling welfare activities is the projection of an on the past five years. Tbey Coraet 311 Motlo" 0/ Thank, on JANUARY 22. 1985 tbe Pre81dent's Addrel' 312

[Shri Rajiv Gandhi] removed; in 1980 and in 1984, 'OU were not in touch with the people and that we went to the polls with the re- you were removed . You have to accept cord of the past five years, and our this fact. You can say what you like work in those five years has been endo- about percentages. You are taJkin, rsed by the people of this country,over- about 50 percent and 49 percent; may whelmingly endorsed by the people of I remind you, Sir, that your party this country. I wi II not waste my time got 5.8 percent? It may be just a on the past, like my friends in the question of a decimal point that you Opposition we look to·wards the future did not notice between 5 and 8. instead.

You must remember that although Some issues have been raised about you pretend to speak as the voice of the the eJections and all sorts of wild char- people, you pretend to be the saviour ges have been made. It is customary of the nation, the fact is tbat the voice after elections to make such charge s, of the peopJe speaks from this side because they make a very good excuse. of the House.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara- How can we make them before the mulJa) : Also from this side. elections? SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: Tbat per- SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: I do not centage has been established barely wish to make a charge against you. two wee ks ago. The people know wha t charges there are. That is why we are here and you PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Per. are there. centage is the same.

Like my friend has said, it is not SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: The issues money power, muscle po~er or any in this election were very c1ear and other power that counts; it is the voter righ t through the elections my friends that counts in an ejection. When we kept .saying the Congress is not talking see such a large discrepancy in the about issues. But the fact was that we number of people sitting on this side were talking about the issues which and that side, it can only mean that. were important to the nation and they were talking about the issues which SHRI AMAL DATIA (Diamond the nation did not think were important. Harbour) : What about the percentage? We had one issue in front of u~-Indja 's unity. integrity, India's nationalism- SHRI RAJl V GANDHI: I will and this is what has been won in this come to the percentage also; don'"t eJection. worry. Much as my friends in the Opposi- SHRI AMAL DATTA; Next time tion would like to believe that they are don't use money power. the consciencekeepers of this na tion.

SHRI RAJIV GANDHI : Dattaji, This ejection has· elected the I will answer your question. I have Congress to be the conscience keepers heard ~ha t you said. of the na tion.

The question is, who is in touch with tbe pulse of the people. SHRI" S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mabbub nagar) : Sir, we want to Jisten In 1977 we were not in touch with to the Prime Minister. But We are tlie pulse of the people and we were beiDa disturbed by table-thumpiq. JIJ Motion of Thanks on MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) the Pre,ident', Addre" 314

MR. SPEAKER : Please do not in- friends in the Opposition whether the J terrupt. Be a good Parliamentarian. are in this House or other parties fD the Opposi ti on who arc not in '''. SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: I think House, in solving this partic\tlar wo will excuse him. He has just come problem. from a House and we know how that House functions. So, we will give him Sir, the problems of tbe minoritie.. t,ime to learn and learn to behave in a in India have to be given special proper House. thought. They erupt in tension. the, erupt in riots, but when we reaIJy loot SHRI . S. JAIPAL REDDY: at it, it almost invariably goes back I bad been there for 16 years and I do to economic disparity and it is this not have to Jearn anything more here. root tha t we must get to and our Government will be doing its best to SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: Would try and start from the beginning and )'OU like to say anything more? Thank end this problem once and for all for you. a proper uni ted India. During the past few days we have had one of the mest serious cases of In a few days we are havin, a e'pionagc being uncovered in India. Summit of six nations in Delhi. This f. I cannot say very much about this another step in the direction of peace. because investigations are still in pro- in the direction of disarmament and we ,ress and ianything 1 say might jeopar- look forward to help relieve tensioDl dise further investiga tions. The Members in the world. India has been a stronl from both sides of this House must supporter of the non-aligned movement. understand that here we need the heJp we are founder members and our policy of everyone. This is not a Congress towards this movement has not cbanaed· versus OpP0sition event. This is not We will, in fact, be tak~ng morc in- something that either of us should try terest, developing more contacts. and and get poHtical credit for. It is some- try to improve South-South relations, thin, that affects the whole nation. It South-South exchanges and see that has· been uncovered because we have the Third World can help itself because wanted to investigate, specific areas we have seen that where there has Dot where thing did not look right and we been enough imagination and we have have taken action wherever it was succumbed' to foreign thought, it haa necessary. I would like to clarify that ended to disast~r, it has not ended in aJthough a very senior member of my development. We Wil1, in a similar way, Staff has resigned,' there is nothing look towards the South Asian region against individual. It is in the highest for better cooperation with our neiah- propriety of' the civil service that he bours, bet ter cooperation within the has taken this decision. I would like sub-continent. to say that we are going into this in areat depth, into every aspect of what W \! have been having some diffe- has happened, how it happened, the rences wi th Pakis tan. On his last visit possible damage that has occurred and to India I had a meeting with thoir when I am in a position to let you President, Shri Zia, and he was very know more, I wi II keep you fuI1y in- cordial, very helpful and he talked very formed. positively. I was very hopeful, I still We have problems in Punjab and am very hopeful, but unfortunate)y in in Assam, we are looking towafds the intervening period some of the 'Glving those problems and we are hope- actions by the bureaucracy. by the ful tbat we wi)) be abJe to come in other members of the Pakistan Go'leftl- . front of you with some news-well, ment have not been conducive to betteI' relations between the two countrNa Dot in this Session t but I bope we will mako proarcss in this and I do look and we look forward to a ~. 1ANUARY 22, 1985

,[Sbri Rajiv Sandhi] allY such legislation, we are really The House has been very alive to groping. It is something new that we wbat has be~n happening in Sri Lanka. are putting in. There are no precedents We are dismayed a t the way the All we can lookatandit~fur us to show Party Conference ended, we are dis- the way. But that also means that we mayed that a political solution does must be a little more objective, we not seem around the corner and we are must show a littJe more strength and unhappy about the way the security be able t.o come out and have the guts forces have bean deployed and used. to do it. That will not be lacking from We look forward to a high level com- our s ide, Sir. munication with Sri Lanka and we will do v.'hatever we can to help solve the problems. We have to help them b~­ Jndia 's economy , Sir. is very largely cause we have a very large number of that :>f farmers. We will be doing refugees. And we would like condi- many things for the farmers in the tions to be such that they can return coming )ears. We have to see that to tbeir homes. Later, in this year, Sir, our agricultura 1 output increases subs- I wilJ be visiting the U.S.S.R. and the ·tantially. We have to see that the in- U.S.A. and I win keep the House in puts to the farmers have proper prices. touch with my deliberations there. We We have to see that the procurement look forward to many more exchanges pflces are correct. It is only then that with ether countries. We look forward we will be able to get the ,8i owth that to better friendship wi th al I countries in we afe wanting. \Ve wiH 'look towards the worJd. this end and I hope we will see a sbarp in(reasc in our agricultural productioD. In his speech, the President has talked about the future talks that are in front of us. Sir, this Government We \\til] be looking, like the Pre- is committed to a clean public life. siden t said, Si r, a t t~e lex tile industry. And we have started taking measures Over the ytars, the textile industry towards' this end. We are committed has dcklioralld very substanli3J1~, and towards electoral reforms. \\'e "",ill when I talk "bout the textile industry, have discussions with an sections of I include th.:! hand;ooms, the w~avers. this House on electoral reforms and from the lowest level to the highest we do hope to get fu1J cooperation mtchanised k vci of industry. We have from you. Because jf electoral reforms to dt.vdop a new po]jcy which does are going to take 10 years of delibera- not lhrow an) body out of a job but tions, then they are not going to be we mu~t remember that our textile worth the discussions. So, we would policy is not targcttd a t producing like to ~ Quick-not hurried but quick-- jobs but at p1(·duc;ng C oth, Jnj pr oduc- and come to a conclusion so that the ing c!c,th at rat:s which are acceptab1e next elections c;)uld be fou£ht uncer to the poor people. to the masses,in our whatever reforms that we agr~e to. country. Vv'e will llY Jnd achieve this.

During the past few days, we have bee[J haVing talks with the Opposition, We are )ookirg at a new industrial and amongst ourselves on the Antj~De­ policy. We have to realise that India fecajon Bill. We feeJ that for a cleaner in the psst 35 j l~ars has progressed public Jife, this is essential What we tremendously in sr:te of everything our have to see •. Sir, is that the-re are no friends across the room ~ay. We have loopholes left which a How defections made tremendous progress and now we uDder any name, under any mpst Jook ahead to a bright future. If ether method to take place. our industry is to progress, if our in- W. had lome talks with the Opposition. dustry is to keep tiP wi th tbe industry Some Parties want stronaer Bi II. Some in the rest of the world, it must operate Partin are jn favour (f a softer Bill under simiJar condi lions. We will look -I lope .e can close this gap and com; towards this end. We have to see to- .... _ .,.."...... Ll...... _ ...... ! ...... I,. _ ..... -. !_ wart'flll ~1II'1oln\lmeJ1t Tndn.trv i. nnt 'jl'1 JIolton til Tlu",Ic, Oil MAGHA 2, 1906 (SAKA) necessarily the best place tor employ- thing I would like to talk about whon ment. Sometimes it is the most in- the education policy comes up. efficient place for employment. We have to look how we can increase employment even more than industry In this work for women. we would can give us. I am not advocating clos- like that voluntary organisations are ina down Industry or a radical change speciaJJy involved and they take a major in all the industries that we have. role.

This eJection reaHy showed the What I am saying is that our world the power of youth of India and education policy, our industrial policy that is why there is such an age differ- and our trade policy must be such ence between the two sides of the that it looks ahead to taking India in- House. We win be looking into very to the future with the rest of the special programmes for the youth, for world. We cannot pretend to be equal the employment of the youth and for to other countries when we are operat- the involvement of the youth in buildiol . ing systems which are 10 years or 20 this great nation ours. years out of date. The world today is of moving very fast and, towards this end, we wi 11 introduce a new education Vast areas in our country are de. policy which will be targeted at a more void of forestation, are waste lands. We modern type of employment. We will are going to deve lop these and we are have a new industrial policy which will going to set up a Waste Land Develop- generate this employment and we will ment Board to look into this, This have to have a trade pol icy whicn wi]) be not aimed just at forestry' but. dovetails with this. We will be trying it wi)) be designed in such a manner to do this by (he next session. that the produce from this reclaimed land is given back to the people who One of the most difficuh points to are Jiving in the neighbouIhood. It win be for the benefit of the local people. handJe has a Iways been the judicia J system. The judicial system is there to iive justice and~ if justice is delayed, We are also looking at cleaning up justice is denied. We will look ·into the air and the water in our country. this to see how quicker and speedier We have seen recent tragic accident in justice can be given at all levels. Bhopal where many people died and many many more may be injured or are maimed, I am told that some effects of While every section of our society this terrible tragedy might not even be has been progressing, we find that one known for another six months. We are section which cuts across aIJ religious, looking at the location policy for such caste and regional barriers gets left be- factories and we are lookirg at how h:nd. That is why we have taken up we can stop any factories polluting our special programmes for worn~n. We rivers a nd our air. Our rivers have will se~ that speciaJ programmes for the socia1,' economic and cultural develop- become extremely poll uted. The first river that we are attempting to clean up ment of women are made and put in is the Ganges. I win not say purify. front of you. We have already aono- because nobody can purify the Ganaa. unced tha t -we wiJ J be giving free edu- cation to girls up to the secondary But we will try to dean it. We have ••• level. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI (Adilabad) : It is a Herculean task. AN HON. MEMBER: You provide hostels also for them. SHRI RAflV GANDHI: It is a Hereuleas task. Yes. But we have SHRI RAJIV GANDHI; I wish we already identified tbe areas and we fcol could afford to do tba t. That is lome. tha t we are UJ) to it. JANUARY.2.2, 19i5

Sir, in the coming years, we will SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI : You build a united, secular. free India where allo clean tbe Augean stables. a person's worth is not measurect by,hil caste, creed. region or reJigion. We SURI RAJlV GANDHI: That is wi]) build an India which is d;namic" why. 'ou are there and we are here ! an India which can move ahead wit. Wo have set up the Central Gaola the res't of the worJd. . Authority to clean the Ganga and, as my friend is so interested in the Ganla, Once again, I thank all the Mem. out of the pollution in the Ganga, only bers who have participated and 1 20% of the pollution is chemical poUu- commend the President's Address for tion and 80% is sewage and other ex .. adoption. creta and we will be able to clean this 'up with a time-bound programme. MR. SPEAKER There are a number of amendments wbich have From this Government, yOu will see been moved by Members to the hlotioa reaults. of Thanks on the President's Address. If the House agrees, I shall put aU tbe This Government is looking deeply amendments together to the vote of tbe into our cultural heri tage. Not only House ... lookina into our cultural heritage, to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: preserve it, to save it but, we are als. If aIJ the amendments are put together. ,oing to look ahead into how to it would mean a 'coJlective massacre' ! develop the culture of every region, or every group, in our country. We will be taking this up as a major pro- MR. SPEAKER : I now put all tbe aramme. flmer,dments together to the vote of the House. To do all these things, we will need Amendments were put and "egatived. a fast administration, a clean administ- ration, a responsive administration and MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put we will be giving you this. the m I in Motion to the vote of the House. To take India ahead, we have to The questinn is : look towards tbe optimum utilisation of our resources. Our biggest resource is "Tha t an Address be presented ,to tbe human resource and we will look the Presiden t in the following towards how to deveJop this. We will terms :- develop our natural resources and we will utilise our industrial and capital 'Tha t the Mem bers of Lot Sabha resources to tbe best benefit. assembled in this Session are deeply grateful to the President To do this, we will need technology. for the Address which he has We will need a new education and we been pleased to deliver to both will need to look a ftef the' hea Ith of Houses of Parliament assem. our people so tha t they are up to this. bled together on the 17th Jan- But, most of gil, it will need managerial uary, 1985.' " lkill and it will need political will and The mot ion was adopted, we will give you both. But whenever MR. SPEAKER: The House Itaads one tiahtens one's belt to move ahead adjourned to reassemble tomorrow at faster, one does fee) tbe pinch. And 11.00 a.m. this pinelli is going to come in disci- 1834 hr•• pline. We will have to have discipline. We wiU have to respect institutions, The Lok S abita t hell .djo"",,,tI II/I Elev.en of the Clock till w~. arid we win have to think, again, about Janua,y 2J, 1985/Magha 3,1906 (S.ia). "ot abr freedom but tbe country's hed6m.:';"