Jilid v Bari Selasa No. 19 14hb Januari, 1969

PERBAHATHAN PARLIMEN

DEWAN RA'AYAT YANG KEDUA

PENGGAL KELIMA

PENYATA RASMI

KANDONGAN-NYA

JAWAPAN' MULUT BAGI PERTANYAAN2 [Ruangan 3085)

RANG UNDANG2: The Constitution (Amendment) Bill [Rnangan 3103)

Rang Undang2 Perbekalan, 1969- (Bacbaan Kali Yang Kedua) [Ruangan 3151]

OLEH THOR REl'iG CUOl'G, A.M.1'1., PEl'll:HETA.K KEJl"JAAS

s;U.1.LA. LUMPUR 1969 MALAYSIA

DEWAN RA'AYAT YANG KEDUA

PENGGAL YANG KELIMA

Penyata Rasmi

Hari Selasa. l4hb Januari. 1969

Persidangan hern1u/a pada pukul 10 pagi

YANG HADH!R:

Yang Berhormat Tuan Yang di·Pcrtua. DATO' CHIK MOHAMED YUSUF BIN SHEIKH ABDUL RAHMAN, s.P.M.P., J.P., Dato' Bendahara, Perak. Timbalan Perdana Menteri, Menteri Pertahanan, Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri dan Menteri Pembangunan Negara dan Luar Bandar, Y.A.B. TUN HAJI ABDUL RAZAK BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N. (Pekan). Menteri Kewangan, Y.A .B. TUN TAN SIEW SIN, s.s.M., J.P. (Melaka Tengah). Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Talikom, Y.A.B. TUN V. T. SAMBANTHAN, s.S.M., P.M.N. (Sungci Siput). Menteri Pcngangkuta n. Yang Berbahagia TAN SRI H.rn SAROON BIN HAJI JUBIR. P.M.N. (Pontian Utara). Menteri Pelajaran, TUAN MOHAMED KHIR JOHAR! (Kedah Tengah). Menteri Ke'adilan. TUAN BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah). Menteri Pcrctagangan dan Perusahaan. Yang Berbahagia TA'< SRI DR LIM SWEE Aus. P.M.N .. J.P. (Larut Selatan).

Menteri Kesihatan 'Am. Yang Bcrbahagia TAN SRI HAJI

ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAii SAKHAWAT ALI KHA�. P.M.1'. . J.P. (Batang Padang). Menteri Kerajaan Tempatan dan Perumahan. TUAN KHAW KAr-BoH, P.J.IC. (Ulu Selangor). Menteri Hal Ehwal Sarawak. Yang Berbahagia TAN SRI TEMENGGONG JUGAH ANAK BARIEt'(i, P.M.N., P.D.K. (Sarawak).

Menteri Buroh, TUAN V. MA�·1cKAVASAGAM, J.M.N., P.J.K. (Kelang).

Mentcri Penerangan dan Penyiaran dan Menteri Kebudayaan, Belia dan Sokan, TUAN SENU BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Kubang Pasu Baral). Menteri Pertanian dan Sharika! Kerjasama. TUAN Hw MOHD. GHAZAL! BIN HAn JAW! (Ulu Perak). Menteri Kebajikan 'Am. DR NG KAM PoH. J.P. (Telok Anson).

Menteri Hal Ehwal Sabah, DATO' GANIE G1LONG, P.D.K., J.P. (Sabah.) 3079 14 JANUARI 1969 3080

Yang Berhormat Menteri Muda Kebudayaan, Belia dan Sokan, ENGKU MUHSEJN BIN ABDUL KADIR, D.P.M.T., J.M.N., P.J.K. (Trengganu Tengah). Menteri Muda Pelajaran, TuAN LEE SIOK YEW, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Sepang). Menteri Muda Perdagangan dan Perusahaan, TuAN ABDUL TAJB BIN MAHMUD (Sarawak). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Menteri Kesihatan, TuAN IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN, J.M.N. (Sebcrang Tengah). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Menteri Buroh, TuAN LEE SAN CHooN. K.M.N. (Segamat Selatan). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Menteri Kewangan, TuAN ALI BIN H.UI AHMAD (Pontian Selatan). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Timbalan Perdana Menteri, TuAN CHEN WING SUM (Damansara). NIK ABDUL A:z.12 BIN NIK MAT (Kelantan Hilir). TuAN HAii ABDUL GHAN! BIN ISHAK, A.M.N. (Melaka Utara). TuAN ABDUL KAilIM BIN ABU, A.M.N. (Melaka Selatan). WAN ABDUL KADIR BIN ISMAIL, P.P.T. (Kuala Trengganu Utara). WAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN DATU TuANKU BUJANG, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TuAN HAJI ABDuL RAsHID BIN H.UI 1AIS (Sabab). TUAN HAii ABDUL RAZAK BIN HAii us H sIN (Lipis). DATO' ABDULLAH BIN ABDUl.llAHMAN, S.M.T., Dato' Bijaya di-Raja (Kuala Trengganu Selatan). Y.A.M. TuNKU ABDULLAH IBNI AL·MARHUM TuANKU ABDUL RAHMAN, P.P.T. (Rawang). TuAN H.UI ABU BAKAR BIN HAMZAH, J.P. (Bachok). TuAN AHMAD BIN ARSHAD, A.M.N. (Muar Utara). TuAN H.UI AHMAD BIN SAA!D, J.P. (Seberang Utara). WAN ALWI B1N TuANKU IBIWDM (Sarawak). TuAN RAFAEL ANCHETA, A.M.N. (Sabah). DR AWANG BIN HASSAN, S.MJ. (Muar Selatan). TUAN HAII Aziz BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam). TUAN JONATHAN BANGAU ANAK RENANG, A.B.s. .. (Sarawak). PENGARAH BANYANG ANAK JANTING, P.B.S. (Sarawak). TuAN CHAN CHONG WEN, A.M.N. (Kluang Selatan). TuAN CHAN SEONG YOON (Setapak). TuAN CHAN SIANO SUN, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Bentong). TuAN CHEW BJOW CHUON, J.P. (Bruas). TuAN CHIA CHIN SHIN, A.B.s. (Sarawak). TuAN FRANCIS CHIA NYUK TONG (Sabah). TUAN CHIN FOON (Ulu Kinta). TUAN D. A. DAGO ANAK RANDAN alias DAGOK ANAK RANDEN, A.M.N. (Sarawak). 3081 !4 JANUARI 1969 3082

Yang Berharmat TUAN C. V. DEVAN NAIR (Bungsar). TUAN EDWIN ANAK T ANGKUN (Sarawak). DATO' SYED EsA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N., D.P.M.J., P.I.S. (Batu Paha! Dalam). DATIN HAJJAH FATIMAH BINTI HAJJ ABDUL MAJID (Johar Bahru Timar). Yang Berbahagia TAN SRI HAJJAH FATIMAH BINTI HAJJ HASHIM, P.M.N. (Jitra-Padang Terap). Yang Berharmat TUAN S. FAZVL RAHMAN, A.D.K. (Sabah). TUAN GANINO BIN JANGKAT, A.M.N. (Sabah). TUAN GEH CHONG KEAT, K.M.N. (Pulau Pinang Utara). TUAN HAJI HAMZAH BIN ALANO, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Kapar). TUAN HANAFI BIN MOHD. YUNUS. A.M.N., P.J.K. (Kulim Utara). TUAN HANAFIAH BIN HUSSAIN, A.M.N. (Jerai). TuAN IIARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N., J.P. (Baling). WAN HASSAN BIN WAN DAUD, J.P. (Tumpat). TUAN STANLEY Ho NOUN KHm, A.D.K. (Sabah).

DATO' HAJJ HUSSEIN BIN MOHD. NOORDIN, D.P.M.P .• A.M.N., P.J.K. (Parit). TUAN Hussrn• BIN SULAJMAN, J.P. (IBu Kelantan). TUAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN HAIT SAMAN, S.M.K., (Kata Bharu Hulu). Yang Amat Berbahagia TUN DR !SMAIL BIN DATo' HAJJ ABDUL RAHMAN, s.s.M., P.M.N., s.P.M.J. (Johar Timar). Yang Berharmat TuAN ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Pulau Pinang Selatan). Yang Berbahagia TAN SRI SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALDAR, P.M.N. (Johar Tenggara). Yang Berharmat PENGHULU J1NGGUT ANAK ATTAN, K.M.N., Q.M.C., A.B.S. (Sarawak). TuAN THOMAS KANA, K.M.N. (Sarawak). TUAN KHOO PENG LooNo, o.e.E. (Sarawak). TuAN EDMUND LANGGU ANAK SAGA (Sarawak). TUAN LEE SECK FUN. K.M.N. (Tanjoog Malim). TUAN AMADEUS MATHEW LEONG, A.D.K., J.P. (Sabah). DR LIM CHONG Eu (Tanjang). TUAN LIM PEE HUNG, P.J.K. (Alar Star). DATO' LING BENO Srnw. P.N.e.s. (Sarawak). TUAN PETER Lo Su YIN (Sabah). DR MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMAD (Kota Star Selatan). TUAN T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.M.N., J.P. (Port Dickson). TUAN c. JoHN ONDU MAJAK!l. (Sabah\. TUAN JOSEPH DAVID MANJAJI (Sabah).

DATO' DR HAJI MEGAT KHAS, D.P.M.P., J.P .• P.J.K. (Kuala Kangsar). DR MOHAMED e11< TAIB (Kuantan). TUAN MOHD. ARIF SALLEH, A.D.K. (Sabah). 3083 14 JANUARI 1969 3084

Yang Berhormat TUAN MoHD. DAUD BIN ABDUL SAMAD (Besut). TUAN MOHAMED IDllIS BIN MATSIL, J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Jelebu-Jempol). TUAN MOHD. TAHIR BIN ABDUL MAJID, S.M.S., P.J.K. (Kuala Langat). TuAN HAJI MOHAMED YusoF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N. (Temerloh). TUAN MOHO. ZAHIR BIN HAJI ISMAIL, J.M.N. (Sungai Patani). WAN MOKHTAR BIN AHMAD, P.J.K. (Kemaman). TuAN HAJI MOKHTAR BIN HAJJ ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan). TuAN MUHAMMAD FAKHRUDDIN BIN HAJI ABDULLAH (Pasir Mas Hilir). TuAN HAJJ MUHAMMAD Su' AUT BIN HAJI MIIHD. TAHIR, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN MusA BIN HITAM (Segamat Utara).

DATo" HAJ1 MusTAPHA BIN HAn ABDUL ]ABAR, D.P .M.s .. A.M.N., J.P. (Sabak Bernam). TUAN MusTAPHA BIN AHMAD (Tanah Merah). Yang Amat Berbahagia TUN DATU MusTAPHA BIN DATU HARUN, s.M.N.. P.D.K. (Sabah). Yang Berbahagia TAN SRI HAJI Nnc AHMAD KAMIL, D.IC., s.P.M.K., s.J.M.K.. P.M.N., P.Y.G.P., Dato' Sri Selia Raja (Kota Bharu Hilir). Yang Berhormat TUAN NG FAH YAM, J.P. (Batu Gajah). TUAN ONG KEE Hui (Sarawak). TuAN HAJI OniMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Hilir Perak). TuAN OrllMAN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Perlis Utara). TuAN QUEK KAI DoNG, J.P. (Seremban Timar). TuAN HAJJ RAHMAT BIN HAJI DAUD, A.M.N. (Johar Bahru Baral). TUAN RAMU BIN OMAR (Krian Dara!). TuAN HAJI REDZA BIN Hm MoHD. SAJD, P.J.K., J.P. (Rembau-Tampin).

RAJA ROME BIN RAJA MA'AMOR, P.J.IC., J.P. (Kuala Selangor). TUAN SEAH TENG NGIAB, S.MJ., P.l.S. (Muar Pantai). TUAN D. R. SEENIYASAGAM (Ipoh). TUAN SIM BOON LIANG, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN SIOW LooNG HIN, P.J.K. (Seremban Baral). TUAN SENAWI BIN ISMAIL, P.J.K. (Seberang Selatan). TUAN SNG CHIN Joo (Sarawak). TuAN SoH AH TECK (Batu Pahat). TuAN HAJI SULEIMAN BIN Au (Dungun). TuAN SULAJMAN BIN BULON, P.J.K. (Bagan Datoh). TUAN SULEIMAN BIN HAn TAIB (Krian Laut). PENGIRAN TAHIR PETRA (Sabah). TUAN TAJIJDIN BIN ALI, P.J.K. (Larut Utara). TUAN TAI KUAN YANG, A.M.N. (Kulim-Bandar Bharu). TUAN TAMA WENG TINGGANG WAN (Sarawak). 3085 14 JANUARI 1969 3086

Yang Berhormat DR TAN CHEE KHOON (Batu). TUAN TAN CHENG BEE. A.M.N., J.P. (Bagan). TUAN TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Melaka). TUAN TAN TOH HONG (Bukit Bintang). TUAN TAN TSAK Yu, P.n.s. (Sarawak). TUAN TrAH ENG BEE (Kluang Utara). TUAN ToH THEAM Hoci;: (Kampar). TUAN YEH PAO TZE, A.M.N. (Sabah). TUAN STEPHEN YONG KuET TZE (Sarawak). TENGKU ZAID BIN TENGKU AHMAD (Pasir Mas Hulu). TUAN HAn ZAKARIA BIN HAJJ MOHD. TAIB, P.J.K. (Langal).

YANG TIADA HADHIR: Yang Berhormat Perdana Menteri dan Menteri Hal Ehwal Luar Negeri, Y.T.M. TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN PVTRA AL-HAJ, K.O.M. (Kuala Kedah). Menteri Hal Ehwal Tanah dan Galian, DATO' HAJJ ABDUL-RAHMAN BrN YA'KUB (Sarawak). Menteri Muda Ta' Berjabatan, TUAN HAJJ ABDUL KHALID BIN AWANG OSMAN (Kota Star Utara). Menteri Muda Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri, TUAN HAMZAH BIN DATO' ABU SAMAH, S.M.K. (Raub). PUAN AJJBAH BINTI ABOL (Sarawak). TuAN KAM WOON WAH, J.P. (Sitiawan). DATO' HAJJ MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA, S.P.M.K. (Pasir Puteh). ORANG TUA MOHAMMAD DARA BIN LANGPAD (Sabah). DATO' S. P. SHNIVASAGAM. D.P.M.P.. P.M.P .. J.P. (Menglembu).

DO'A (b) ada-bh mereka telah di-haram­ kan mengambil bahagian atau (Tuan Yang di-Pertua mcnchampori di-dalam politik n1e111pengerusikan Meshuarat) di-Malaysia: (c) nyatakan Tingkatan Gaji dan JAWAPAN2 MULUT BAGI Elaun Sara hidup yang akan di­ PERTANY AAN2 bayar kapada niereka: PENGAMBILAN GURU' DARI (d) nyatakan kefayakan yang di­ INDONESIA kehendaki daripada mcreka. 1. Tuan Haji Mukhtar bin Haji Ismail Menteri Penerangan dan Penyiaran (Perlis Selatan) bertanya kapada Men­ (Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rahman): Tuan teri Pelajaran ada-kah benar Kerajaan Yang di-Pcrtua, urusan pengambilan Malaysia bcrchadang hendak meng­ sudah pun di-jalankan. Chalun' sudah ambil guru2 dari fnUonesia untok di-pileh oleh Surohanjaya Perkhid­ berkhidmat dengan Kementerian ini matan Awam dan tawaran� ja\\latan Jan sa-kira-nya benar: sudah di-keluarkan. Lain' butir yang di-kehendaki oleh Ahli Yan� Bcr­ (a) sa-belum mereka d1-temuduga hormat itu ada-lah saperti berikut: ada-kah Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri telah mempasti­ (al Ranchangan mengambil guru' kan bahawa mereka bukan pro­ dari Indonesia ini ada-lah di­ Kominis: buat mclalui Kerajaan Republik 3087 14 JANUARI 1969 3088

Indonesia dan segala tindakan Tuan Senn bin Abdul R•1'm•n: Tuan biasa mengenat keselamatan Yang di-Pertua, tindakan tclah pun sudah pun di-ambil. di-ambil untok menubohkan sa-buah (b) Mereka ada-lah di-larang meng­ Jawatan-kuasa bagi menggubal Pcr­ lembagaan Universiti itu. Ahli'-nya ambil bahagian atau men­ tctapi champori tangan dalam politik sudah pun di-lantek, lantekan Malaysia dan sharat2 ini telah Pengerusi-nya sahaja belum lagi sele­ di-masokkan ka-dalam konterek sai di-uruskan. mereka. (b) Deraf Perlembagaan belum siap (c) Gaji tetap (termasok Elaun Sara lagi oleh sebab di-atas. Sama ada Hidup) bagi guru lelaki ia-lah perlu atau tidak kajian di-buat menge­ $850 sa-bulan dan guru perem· nai sistem pentadbiran dan perlemba­ puan $750 sa-bulan. gaan Universiti2 Kebangsaan di-India. Pakistan, Amerika Sharika! dan lain' (dl Kelayakan yang di-kehendaki negara Eropah belum-lah dapat di­ ada-lah saperti berikut: tentukan pada masa ini. Sarjana Pendidekan dalam (c) mata2 pelajaran Ilmu Hisab. Kutipan derma untok Tabong Ilmu K1mia, Ilmu Kaji Hayat Universiti Kebangsaan pada mula-nya dan Ilum Fizik serta mempunyai telah di-buat oleh sa-buah badan sekurang2-nya 5 tahun pengala­ yang di-ketahui ramai sa-bagai man mengajar. Jawatan-lruasa Penaja Universiti Ke­ bangsaan. Saya baharu sahaja meng­ Sekian. ambil aleh tugas mengutip dan menerima derma untok Tabong itu. PENUBOHAN UNIVERSffi Oleh yang demikian belum-lah dapat KEBANGSAAN saya menyatakan dengan tepat berapa banyak wang yang telah di-kutip. 2. Tuan Haji Mokhtar bin Haji bmail (d) Tapak U niversiti ini belum bertanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran: lagi di·tetapkan. (a) apa-kah kemajuan yang di-chapai sa-takat ini dalam usaha menu­ Terima kaseh. bohkan Universiti Kebangsaan; dan KEKURANGAN EMAS UNTOK (b) sama ada deraf perlembagaan MEMBUAT BARANG2 PERMATA telah di-siapkan dan sa-kira-nya DAN PERHIASAN EMAS belum, ada-kah dia bertujuan 3. Tuan Ahmad bin Anlwl (Muar menghantar ka-luar negeri satu Utan) bertanya kapada Menteri Ke­ perwakilan mengandongi sa­ wangan: bilangan Ahli' Jawatan-kuasa (a) Peranchang termasok Pakar' ada·kah Kerajaan sedar bahawa Pendidekan dari Kementerian Malaysia menghadapi kclrura­ ini untok membuat pengajian ngan emas untok membuat yang chermat mengenai sistem barang2 kemas dalam perusa­ pentadbiran dan perlembagaan haan' tempatan; Universiti2 Kebangsaan di-India. (b) negeri2 mana-kah yang membe­ Pakistan, Amerika Sharika! dan kal kapada Malaysia; lain' negara Eropah; (c) berapa jumlah emas yang di· (c) berapa jumlah kumpulan wang gunakan pada tiap' tahun se­ yang telah di-lrutip untok tujuan menjak Merdeka; itu; (d) ada-kah quota di-kenakan ka­ (d) di-mana-kah tapak Universiti atas keda12 yang menggunakan chadangan itu dan sa-kira-nya emas. belum di-chadangkan lagi, ada­ kah ia akan di-bena di-Treng­ Menteri Kewaupu (Tuu Tau Siew ganu di-mana tanah dan semua Sin): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Kerajaan kemudahan2 lain boleh di­ ada-lah sedar bahawa memang-lah dapati. terdapat kekurangan emas2 untok 3089 14 JANUARI 1969 3090 membuat barang' pennata dan per­ BANGUNAN MAHKAMAH hiasan emas. Oleh sebab itu. Kerajaan 4. bin telah membenarkan emas bullion Toan Ahmad Anhad bertanya di-impot oleh pedagang' yang di-beri kapada Menteri Ke'adilan ada-kah lesen untok di-jual kapada tukang' Kementerian sedar bahawa Hakim' emas. Jumlah yang di-benarkan di­ di-Kuala Lumpur tiada dapat men­ impot ka-Malaysia sekarang ia-lah jalankan tugas mereka dengan me­ 42.500 ounce pada satu suku tahun. muaskan di-sebabkan hal bahawa bangunan mahkamah yang ada seka­ (b) Sunggoh pun pedagang' yang rang berkeadaan burok; jika sedar. di-beri lesen ada-lah di-benarkan bila-kah sa-buah bangunan mahkamah mengimpot emas daripada sabarang yang baharu akan di-dirikan, berapa­ negeri, tetapi sa-hingga ini emas bul­ kah harga-nya dan bila-kah kerja2 lion ada-Iah di-impot daripada United membena akan bennula. Kingdom. (c) Ada-lab sulit untok di-anggarkan Menleri Ke'adilao (Tuan Bahaman jumlah emas yang di-gunakan oleh bin Samsudin): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tukang2 emas oleh kerana mereka tidak betul kenyataan Yang Berhonnat memenohi sa-bahagian daripada ke­ itu yang bangunan mahkamah yang perluan-nya melebor dengan barang2 ada sekarang berkeadaan burok dan pennata dan perhiasan emas yang oleh sebab itu hakim2 di-Kuala Lum­ lama. Waiau bagaimana pun, meng­ pur tiada dapat menjalankan tugas ikut chatetan jumlah tersebut di-bawah mereka dengan memuaskan. ini telah di-gunakan oleh tukang2 em as semenjak tahun 1963: Saya mengaku benar bahawa bilek untok sa-paroh hakim2 itu sangat Jumlah Tahun kechil dan sempit dan juga bilek2 1963 37,705 (ounce) untok perbicharaan tidak menchukupi 1964 45,634 " dan keadaan saperti ini tidak-lah . 1965 57,133 . memuaskan. Dengan hal yang demi­ kian satu chadangan membena 1966 81,687 " bangunan baharu telah pun di-luluskan . 1967 43.027 . oleh Kerajaan pada dasar-nya. Tiada angka yang terdapat untok Bangunan ini akan di-namakan Hall of Justice�Dewan Ke'adilan--

Tm Jl!lh•-n binSamsodin: Tidak. jurugambar' tempatan negeri 101 mengambil bahagian dalam perlan­ Tuan Ahmad bin Anbad: Tuan dingan penggambaran yang di-anjor· Yang di-Pertua, ada-kah Yang kan oleh Sharika! PRA VOA, kerana Berhormat Menteri yang berkenaan Kerajaan Malaysia telah pun mena­ itu sedar bahawa ada sa-tengah2 iktiralkan perhubongan dii>lomat1k mahkamah dalam negeri ini yang dengan Kerajaan Soviet Russia. Seta· di-chemar oleh najis2 manusia dan kat ini jurugambar2 di-negeri ini binatang dan apa-kah langkah, kalau pernah menerima tawaran mengambil ada, untok mengatasi masaalah ini? bahagian dalam pertandingan tersebut, Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: Tuan tetapi setahu saya belum-lah pernah Yang di-Pertua, saya sedar dan lang­ mereka menyertai dalam pertandingan kah sedang di-ambil. yang sama.

Tuan Ahmad bin Anbad: Tuan Tujuan Kementerian Penerangan dan Penyiaran memberi galakan ini Yang di-Pertua, mana dia salah sa­ ia-lah untok membukakan peluang buah mahkamah itu. kapada jurugambar' Malaysia meng­ Tm Babaman bin Samsudin: Tuan ambil bahagian dalam pertandingan Yang di-Pertua, patut-nya tuan-lah sa-umpama itu di-peringkat antara­ yang memberi tabu, banyak mahka­ bangsa di-mana mutu penggambaran mah yang bagitu. boleh-lah di-bandingkan dengan gam­ Tuan Ahmad bin Anbad: Tuan bar' yang di-ambil oleh jurugambar ini Yang di-Pertua. kesimpulan-nya atas antarabangsa. Dengan chara dapat­ jawapan Yang Berhormat Menteri ini lah mutu penggambaran di-kalangan tadi bahawa banyak mahkamah dalam jurugambar tempatan meningkat lebeh Malaysia yang keadaan-nya telah tinggi lagi dan di-samping itu pada keselurohan-nya semangat dan kechen­ di-chemarkan oleh najis itu. derongan mereka terhadap seni Tan Sri Haji Nik Ahmad Kamil penggambaran akan lebeh berkembang. (KOia Bharu Hllir): Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, ada-kah di-dalam ranchangan Mengenai penyertaan lain' negeri pembangunan rumah babaru Dewan dalam pertandingan ini, saya yakin Ke'adilan itu Yang Berhormat Men­ Yang Berhormat sendiri maalum ia­ teri akan mengambil timbangan ilu negara' yang maju ada-lah meng­ mengadakan bilek yang sa-patut-nya ambil bahagian untok turut serta bagi loyar2 yang menggunakan mah­ dalam pertandingan yang sama. Di­ kamah ini? samping itu saya suka menjelaskan bahawa Kementerian saya ada-lah Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: Ada. juga menggalakkan penggambar2 me­ nyertai pertandingan2 pcnggambaran PENGAMBILAN BAHAGIAN yang di-anjorkan oleh negara2 yang DALAM PERTANDINGAN lain saperti Great Britain, Amerika PENGGAMBARAN 01-ANJORKAN Sharika!, Germany, Peranchis, Italy. OLEH PRAVDA Denmark, Korea, Japan dan Singapura. S. Tuan Ahmad bin Anbad bertanya Penggambar2 tempatan pemah meng­ kapada Menteri Penerangan dan ambil bahagian dalam pertandingan Penyiaran ada-kah Kementerian ini penggambaran di-negeri2 tersebut mendorong dan menggalak jurugam­ dalam bahagian penggambaran seni bar' dalam negeri ini supaya meng­ dan berita kerana ada di-antara arubil bahagian dalam pertandingan2 mereka' itu menjadi Ahli Association penggambaran. yang di-anjorkan oleh of Royal Photographic Society Shafikat Berita PRAVDA; jika ya. (ARPS). apa-kah tujuan clan sama ada lain' Tuan Ahmad bin Anhad: Soalan negeri juga men11;ambil bahagian tambahan, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Ada­ clalam pertandingani" saperti itu. kah Kementerian ini sedang bercha­ Menteri Peneranpn dan Penyiaran dang hendak membuat satu usaha (Tuan Senu bin Abdul R•hUWt): bertukar2 filem dengan Kerajaan Kementerian saya akan menggalakkan Soviet Rus.sia, filem yang berchorak 3093 14 JANUARI 1969 3094 pelajaran, pembangunan dan kebuda­ Baharu2 int di-meshuarat Menteri2 yaan untok faedah bagi kedua2 buah ASEAN di-Bangkok yang lelah di-alor Kerajaan itu? oleh Menteri Luar Thailand, Setia­ usaha Luar Philipina bersetuju dan Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rahman: Tuan menyalakan dengan sa-chara tidak Yang di-Perlua, memang ada ran­ rasmi dan juga dengan sa-chara rasmi changan 1ersebu1 daripada pehak bahawa Philipina mengikliraf kedau­ Kemenlerian dengan kerana ilu-lah latan Malaysia lermasok Sabah. Ini dasar perhubongan di-antara Malay­ lelah menimbulkan harapan besar sia dengan negara2 yang mempunyai bahawa pertubohan ASEAN tidak h.ubongan diplomalik dengan Malay­ lagi mempunyai apa' halangan dan sia. perjalanan biasa akan dapal di-terus­ kan, akan lelapi dengan dukachila-nya Tuan Haji Abdul Razak bin Haji saya menyatakan bahawa Philipina Hussain (Lipis): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, telah lidak menerima persetujuan ini ada-kah Kerajaan sedar jika ran­ dan pendirian Philipina itu sudah changan ilu kelak di-jayakan memberi tenlu akan menghalang perjalanan satu pendorong kapada gerakan pertubohan ASEAN. komunis di-negeri ini? Tuan Haji Abu Dakar bin Hamzah: Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rahman: Tuan Tuan Yang di-Perlua, ada-kah benar Yang di-Perlua. saya rasa Kerajaan bahawa di-dalam meshuaral yang ada-lah mempunyai chukup ala12 di-hadziri oleh Menteri2 ASEAN untok menjaga masaalah2 yang demi­ baharu2 ini di-Bangkok ilu bahawa kian. pehak Malaysia lidak dapat hendak mengorbankan sadikil sa-banyak nas­ PENAREKAN MALAYSIA khah kepulusan itu yang di-pinta DARI ASEAN oleh Philipina supaya di-pinda? Jika 6. Tuan Haji Abu Dakar bin Hamzah ya, dapal-kah pehak Kerajaan men­ (Dachok) bertanya kapada Menteri cherilakan sa-kadar yang boleh. Luar Negeri ada-kah benar bahawa Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang Malaysia akan keluar daripada per­ di-Perlua, dalam perundingan di­ tubohan ASEAN jika Philipina lidak Bangkok. Menleri2 daripada lima menggugorkan tuntutan-nya ka-atas negara termasok·lah Menteri Luar Sabah; jika ya, ada-kah Kerajaan daripada Philipina telah bersetuju akan memberitahu ha! ilu kapada di-alas nashkah perselujuan yang ahli2 ASEAN yang lain. telah di-dapali di-Bangkok ilu dan Timbalan Perdana Menteri (Tun Haji pehak Philipina berkehendakkan yang Abdul Ramk): Tuan Yang d1-Pertua, persetujuan itu di-bawa kapada Kera­ soal Malaysia menarek diri daripada jaan-nya untok mendapat perselujuan pertubohan ASEAN lidak-lah limbul. Kerajaan-nya dan bagilu juga pehak Malaysia telah berikrar untok men­ Malaysia dan pehak Malaysia lelah champori dalam kerjasama daerah bersetuju di-alas persefahaman yang berazam supaya peristiharan ASEAN telah di-chapai ilu. Saperti yang lelah yang bersejarah yang telah di-tanda­ saya terangkan ia·itu di·dalam per­ tangani di-Bangkok dalam bulan setujuan itu bagi diri kila telah Ogos, 1967 itu terpelihara dan benar2 mcnerangkan bahawa muslahak-lah berharap untok melihal tujuan2 peris­ Philipina mengakui kedaulalan Malay­ tiharan itu di-chapai bagi memenohi sia lermasok Sabah dan kalau Phili­ semangat chita2 ra'ayat2 di-daerah ini pina berseluju bagitu, kila lidak-lah untok memperolehi keamanan dan menghalang bagi Philipina hendak kemaamoran bersama. Bagaimana pun meneruskan tuntutan mereka itu Menleri' Luar ASEAN lelah meng­ 1erhadap Sabah. akui haki.kal bahawa lunlutan Phili­ pina Im-alas Sabah telah membahaya­ Tuan Haji Abu Dakar biu Hamzah: kan pertubohan ini terutama dengan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa-kira-nya ada-nya dasar Philipina menyoal Philipina dalam peringkal ini meng­ kedaulatan Malaysia. akui kedaulalan Malaysia termasok 3095 14 JANUARI 1969 3096

Sabab dan kemudian daripada itu di-adakan, tetapi Malaysia telah meng­ tuntutan itu di-teruskan lagi ka-Mah­ adakan beberapa meshuarat benelidek kamah Dunia, ada-kab mi bererti dan tidak rasmi dangan Pegawai' Malaysia benetuju dengan sikap itu? Pasaran Negara' Bersama Eropah untok bertukar2 fikiran mengenai Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang kemungkinan untok bentok perhu­ di-Pcrtua, kita telah terangkan, kedu­ bongan dengan Pasaran Bersama dokan Malaysia yang sa-benar-nya Eropab. Malaysia bemiat bendak dalam ha! ini. yang kita dapati bergabong dengan Pasaran Bersama tuntutan Philipina terbadap Sabah Eropah melalui rundingan2 penda­ tidak ada asas dari scgi undang' buluan dan bertukar2 fikiran. Malay­ dan dari segi politik jadi dengan sebab sia barus mendapat peluang baik, meng­ itu kita tidak bersetuju tuntutan itu kaji beberapa kemungkinan chara di-bawa ka-mana2• bentok perhubongan dengan Pasaran Tan Ahmad bin Anluld: Tuan Bersama Eropah sa-belum meogambil Yang di-Pertua, soalan tambahan. keputusan dalam suatu bentok per­ Ada-kab Kerajaan sedang hendak bubongan. membuat satu sikap yang mutamad Toan Haji Abo Dakar bin Hammb: bahawa pada masa badapan tidak Tuan Yang di-Pcnua, berbangkit akan menjalankan perundingan dengan daripada jawapan ini dapat-kab Yang Philipina sa-lagi Philipina tidak meng· Berbormat Menteri kita menerangkan gugorkan tuntutan-nya ka-atas Sabah. sadikit sa-banyak bagaimana baik-nya Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang di-adakan kerjasama dengan Pasaran di-Pcrtua, kita telah membuat pen­ Bersama ini kerana perbezaan di­ dirian yang tetap atas hal ini ia-itu antara kita dengan Eropah. Kita kita telah memberitahu Philipina banya negeri yang mengeluarkan babawa tuntutan mereka itu terhadap barang2 mentah, yang mereka itu Sabah tidak ada asas dari segi mengeluarkan barang2 manufactured undang' dan dari scgi politik dan kita goods; jadi di-mana-kah dudok-nya hanya benetuju bendak mengadakan kerjasama antara dua buah negara rundingan untok hendak menguatkan yang berlainan. perhubongan dan untok menchari Tao Sri Dr Lim Swee Aun: Hal ini jalan bagi mengendorkan keadaan sedang di-siasat. ketegangan yang berada di-antara Philipina dengan Malaysia pada masa Toan Haji Abo Dakar bin Hamzllh: ini. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, soalan tamba­ han. Bila-kah agak-nya basil penyia­ BASIL RUNDINGAN DI-ANTARA satan itu Menteri boleb memberi MALAYSIA DENGAN NEGARA1 kapada Dewan ini, kerana Dewan ini PASARAN BERSAMA EROPAH, hendak di-bubarkan. 1968 Tao Sri Dr Lim Swee Aon: Sa-lepas '1. Tan Haji Abo Dakar bin Hamzah selesai siasatan, kita boleh ambil bertanya kapada Menteri Perdagangan keputusan. dan Perusahaan (a) apa-kah basil ruodingan Malaysia dengan negara2 TINDAKAN KERAJAAN Pasaran Bersama Eropah dalam tahun TERHADAP PARTI BUROH 1968; dan (h) ada-kah Malaysia ber­ YANG MEMULAUKAN niat hendak menjadi "ahli bergabong" PILEHANRA YA UMUM, 1969 dalam pakatan ekonomi Eropah itu. 8. Toan Haji Aziz bin hhak (Moar MmteriPerdapnpo dao P enwh••n Dalam) bertanya kapada Menteri Hal (T... Sri Dr Lim Swee Aun): Tuan Ebwal Dalam Negeri apa-kab tinda­ Yang di-Pertua. ada-lah terlalu awal kan yang telah di-ambil oleb Kerajaan bagi saya menyatakan basil rundingan terbadap Parti Burob yang terang2 di-antara Malaysia dengan Negara2 tidak mabu menerima dasar demokrasi Pasaran Bersama Eropah dalam tabun negeri ini dengan mengbasut orang 1968 kerana perbinchangan2 rasmi ramai supaya memulaukan pilebanraya dan sa-chara langsong belum lagi umum yang akan datang. 3097 14 JANUARI 1969 3098

Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang bahawa keadaan Parti Buroh ini men­ di-Pertua, tidak ada apa2 langkah yang jadi demikian ada-lah dengan sebab2 telah di-ambil, tetapi tindakan yang pimpinan yang di-Iakukan atau di­ sesuai akan di-jalankan jika parti pimpin oleh pemimpin Parti Buroh, yang berkenaan ini melakukan kegia· sama ada yang di-dalam Parti Buroh tan' yang bertentangan dengan Undang2 sekarang ini atau yang telah keluar Negara. daripada Parti Buroh.

Tuan Haji Aziz bin Ishak: Tuan Ton Haji Abdul Ramk: Tuan Yang Yang di-Pertua, soalan tambahan. Ber­ di-Pertua, ini Kerajaan tahu, ia-itu hubong dengan soalan ini, ada-kah apa tujuan atau pun motive yang ada Yang Amat Berhormat Timbalan pada kalangan Parti Buroh di-alas Perdana Menteri dapat mengagakkan langkah2 di-ambit baharu' ini. bahawa pemberhentian sa-tengah2 ahli daripada parti, pemimpin2 buroh dari· PENUBOHAN MAJLIS WIDTLEY pada parti-nya dan menubohkan parti lain saperti Ahli Yang Berhonnat dari JABATAN BAHARU Batu, ia-lah dengan sebab mereka 9. DrTan Chee Khooo (Batu) bertanya tidak perchaya lagi kapada dasar parti2 kapada Menteri Pertahanan sa-kira-nya itu yang tidak menguntongkan ra'ayat beliau telah meoubohkan Majlis atau pun takut dia di-pcrentahkan Whitley Jabatan di-Kementerian Per­ oleh parti itu maka mereka berhenti tahanan menurut suatu perlembagaan dari menjadi Ahli Parlirnen bagaimana baharu yang telah di-setujukao, badan2 yang terkena kapada rakan-nya Ahli kakitangan yang terkandong di-dalam· dari Datok Keramat. nya dan tarikh sidang meshuarat ber­ sama yang pertama dan jika belum Ton Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang di-tubohkan, mengapa. di-Pertua, saya sendiri tidak menge­ tahui apa tujuan yang ada dalam hati Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang ahli2 Parti Buroh, sama ada ahli yang di-Pertua, Ministry of Defence Depart· ada sekarang atau pun bekas Ahli mental Whitley Council belum-lah Parti Buroh, akan tetapi yang saya tahu dapat di-tubohkan lagi. Perundingan2 bahawa chadangan hendak berhenti telah di-jalankan beberapa kali dengan daripada Dewan Ra'ayat, Dewan pehak Civilian Staff Union dan juga Undangan Negeri dengan beramai' ini. Union' yang lain untok mendapatkan ada-lah sa-laras dengan keterangan2 persetujuan bagi mengadakan satu yang telah di-beri dalm Kertas Puteh perlembagaan atau pun constitution atau White Paper yang telah di-ben­ yang baharu bagi Departmental Whit­ tangkan di-Dewan ini tidak berapa lama ley Council ini. Perundingao sedang dahulu ia-itu pehak kominis ada ber­ di-jalankan dan saya berharap tidak tujuan hendak menjalankan kekerasan berapa lama lagi Departmental Whitley untok mendapatkan kuasa dalam Council dapat di-tubohkan. negeri ini. Mustahak-Jah di-ketahui bahawa Tnao Haji Abu Bakar bin Hammh: ada lima Ur.ion yang berkaitan dan Soalan tambahan, ada-kah benar pehak Kementerian Pertahanan ter­ bahawa usaba2 memulaukan pilehan­ paksa mendapat persetujuan daripada raya umum ini berlaku di-kalangan wakil2 daripada semua union ini. anggota2 Perikatan, maka beberapa baru-lah dapat di-tubohkan Depart­ orang ahli M.C.A. di-Kelantan di-tang­ mental Whitley Council ini. kap baharu2 ini'? Dr Tan Chee Kboon (dengan izin): Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tidak ada Mr. Speaker, Sir, can the Honourable kena mengena dengan soalan ini. Tuan Minister of Defence tell us some of the Yang di-Pertua. (Ketawa). reasons why this matter bas been delayed for such a long time? Is he Tuan Haji Abdul Razak bin Haji aware that almost a year ago the HUISllin: Tuan Yang di-Pertua. ada­ Armed Forces Civilian Staff Union, kah Kerajaan mengetahui hakikat-nya which constitutes possibly 80 per cent 3099 14 JANUARI 1969 3100

if not more. of the workers of the Too Haji Abdol Razak: I am aware, Ministry of Defence, had protested Sir, and that is why we are proceeding against the arbitrary manner in which with this as fast as we can. The only this Departmental Whitley Council difficulty is to get agreement; once we had been dissolved? obtain agreement, then we can esta­ blish this Whitley Council. Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sir, as I said, it is necessary to get the agree­ PERMOHONAN2 UNTOK ment of all the five unions before we JAWATAN2 TINGGI KOLEJ can establish this new Whitley Coun­ TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN, cil. The previous Whitley Council was MELALUI IBU PEJABAT only represented by one union. It was M.C.A. considered necessary that we should extend this Whitley Council to include 10. Dr Tao Chee Khooo bertanya the other four unions. There was no kapada Menteri Pelajaran ada-kah arbitrary decision at all. The decision beliau sedar bahawa permohonan2 was taken after careful consideration untok jawatan2 tinggi dalam Kolej because, as I said. it is not right that Tunku Abdul Rahman telah di-arah­ the Whitley Council should be re­ kah kapada Ibu Pejabat M.C.A., dan presented by only one union and that jika ya, mengapa. all the other unions should be re­ presented in the Whitley Council. Meoleri Pelajano (Toan Mohamed Khir Johari): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Dr Tao Chee Khooo: Can the ada-lah tidak benar yang di-katakan Honourable Minister tell us what if in bahawa permohonan2 untok jawatan2 the eventuality of one or maybe more tersebut telah di-arahkan ka-Ibu Peja­ of the five unions in the Ministry of bat M.C.A. Yang sa-benar-nya per­ Defence, other than the Armed Forces mohonan2 itu telah pun di-arahkan Civilian Stalf Union, finding it difficult kapada Jawatan-kuasa Pentadbir to agree with the rest? Does it mean Sementara Kolej tersebut. then that this matter will drag on ad infinitum? Dr Tao Chee Khooo (dengan izin): Mr. Speaker. Sir, is the Honourable Too Haji Abdol Rezak: I am advised Minister of Education aware that, at that it is likely we will get agreement least, it was publicly announced in the soon. So, I suggest that we wait and Press, that all applicants for top posts see a short while so that we can get in the Tunku Abdul Rahman College agreement from all concerned. have been asked to send in their appli­ DrTao Chee Khooo: Is the Honour­ cations to the M.C.A. Headquarters. in able Minister of Defence aware that in This was announced the Press, not view of our strained relations with the once but at least three or four times. Philippines, it is important that all offi­ Perhaps it escaped the Honourable cials working in the Ministry of De­ Minister of Education's attention. fence, whether they belong to the Toan Mohamed Kbir Johui (dengan Armed Forces or to the Civilian Staff, izin): should be happy, conte!lted and should Sir, it was only care of M.C.A. (Laughter). work together? As such, it is of vital Headquarters. importance that this matter should be resolved as quickly as possible, if Dr Tao Chee Khooo: Mr Speaker, possible, without further delay. Sir, in order to be absolutely certain that higher education in this country Toan Yang di-Pertoa: What is the should not be a political football, and supplementary question? I do hope that the Minister of Educa­ tion will agree with me that it should DrTao Chee Khooo: Is the Honour­ be so, there should be no occasion able Minister of Defence aware that it for anybody to accuse the Alliance is of vital importance that this matter Party or the M.C.A. of playing politics. should be resolved as quickly as As such, it is most inadvisable to send possible without delay? these applications care of the M.C.A. 3101 14 JANUARI 1969 3102

Headquarters. Why was not the ser­ Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Sir. vices of the Ministry of Education there must be a constitution for the used in this instance? College.

Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: It was Dr Tan Chee Khoon: If, as the only a temporary measure. (Laughter). Minister now tells us, there must be a constitution for this Tunku Abdul Dr Tan Chee Khoon: For future Rahman College, then is it not putting advertisements of this nature, will the the cart before the horse? The Univer­ Honourable Minister of Education see sity of Malaya was established by an to it that if the Tunku Abdul Rahman Act of Parliament and we hope that College is to be financed from public the Tunku Abdul Rahman College funds, it should have nothing whatso­ will also be established by an Act of ever to do with the M.C.A .. and that Parliament, if it is to be maintained applicants should be asked to send out of public funds. Even before the their applications to any place desig­ constitution is passed, applicants are nated by the Minister of Education being asked to send their applications other than the M.C.A. Headquarters? to the M.C.A. Headquarters. Can the Minister explain why this putting the Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Sir. for cart before the horse' the information of the Honourable Member the temporary office of this Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Sir, Pro-Tern Committee happens to be actually it is not putting the cart before situated in the same building as the the horse. It is just a question of fore­ M.CA. Headquarters in the M.C.A. sightedness on the part of the organi­ building. It has nothing to do with the sers. With regard to the constitution M.C.A.; it is actually an accountant's of the proposed College, there is no office somewhere in the M.C.A. necessity for this to come to this building. House, because it will be a matter only for the Minister to decide. Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Whatever it is, whether it is in the M.C.A. Head­ Tuan Haji Ahn Dakar bin Hamzah: quarters building or next door to the Tuan Yang di-Pertua, soalan tamba­ M.C.A. Headquarters building, will han. Ada-kah benar bahawa perlem­ the Honourable the Minister of Edu­ bagaan Kolej Tunku Abdul Rahman cation assure this House that future ini di-gubal oleh sa-orang peguam applicants should send their applica­ yang kebetulan pada masa ini menjadi tions to the Ministry of Education, Minister of Transport. Jika ia, apa­ because this is a project of the Minis­ kah ada kaitan-nya dalam ha! ini? try of Education. This is a Govern­ (Ketawa). n1ent-sponsored project but not a Party-sponsored project, unless the Tuan Mohamed Khir Jobari: Itu Minister of Education is telling us that soalan Iain langsong-tidak ada kena this is an M.C.A. project. mengena.

Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: Sir, DrLim Chong Eu (Tanjong) (dengan once the Board of Governors of the izin): Mr Speaker, Sir, may I ask the College is formed, then we will direct Honourable Minister whether the that all applications should be sent to policy of the Government with regard the official address of the Board of to the Tunku Abdul Rahman College Governors of the College. is a fixed policy and, if so, whether he would allow, for example, the Univer­ Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, sity of Penang Committee to select top Sir, can the Honourable Minister of post applicants for the teaching posts Education tell us whether in the in the proposed University of Penang? establishment of this Tunku Abdul Rahman College it is intended to Tuan Mohamed Khir Johari: I think provide a constitution for this College? to be fair to the Honourable Member, If it is not, why not? I would require notice of that question. 3103 14 JANUARI 1969 3104

RANG UNDANG2 lagi, dan dengan sa-chara serentak dan pada satu kctika, ada-lah di-fikir­ 111E CONSTITUTION kan tidak menasabah dan tidak patut (AMENDMENT) BILL dan akan semata2 bertujuan menyusah­ lladlaan Koll Y- K ...... _ Kedp kan ra'ayat negeri ini. Menurut Per­ lembagaan kita pada 18hb Mei, 1969, Thnbalan Menteri Perdana (Tun Haji Dewan Ra'ayat dan Dewan2 Undangan Abdul Razllk): Tuan Yang di-Penua, Negeri mesti-lah di-bubarkan dengan saya mohon mengemukakan Rang tidak boleh tidak. Oleh itu jika tidak _ Undang2 yang bemama "The Consti­ di-pinda Perlembagaan ini neschaya tution (Amendment) Bill 1969" di­ dalam satu dua bulan ini akan kita bacha bagi kali yang kedua. terpaksa mengadakan beberapa pilehan­ raya kcchil atau by-election. Sapeni yang di-terangkan dalam Rang UntlanJ2 ini, tujuan Rang Tuan Yang di-Penua, perbuatan Undang2 ioi 18-lab hendak membuat pindaan yang semacham ini ada-lah mempunyai sadikit kapada Perlembagaan motif' yang tenentu saperti yang telab Malaysia supaya satu2 kekosongan di-terangkan dalam Kenas Puteh ber­ tar semen a atau "casual vacancy" tajok: "Untok menchapai kuasa penoh alam d Dewan Ra'ayat atau pun Dewan melalui kekerasan" yang baru sahaja Undangan Negeri yang di-sebabkan di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini. Per­ oleh perletakan jawatan Ahli atau buatan ini ada-lah berlawanan dengan kematian dan sa-bagai-nya tidak-lah spirit of the Constitution kita dan perlu di-isi jika sa-kira-nya kekosongan tidak menurut semangat demokrasi itu berlaku dalam tempoh 6 bulan sa­ yang sa-benar-nya. Nyata-lah kita belum Parlimen atau Dewan Undangan mengetahui bahawa Pani Buroh itu Negeri di-bubarkan (stands dissolved) tidak perchaya kapada sistem demo­ menurut Perlembagaan. krasi berparlimen yang kita amalkan Tuan Yang di-Penua, Kerajaan di-negara kita ini. mengemukakan Rang Undang2 ini Tuan Yan!! di-Penua, Kerajaan dengan perasaan yang amat dukachita berpendapat lldak-lah ada faedah-nya kerana Kerajaan tidak suka hendak mengadakan pilehanraya2 kcchil seka­ meminda Perlembagaan ini melainkan rang ini sebab pilehanraya umum akan jika di-fikirkan sangat mustahak untok di-adakan tidak beberapa bulan lagi. faedab ra'ayat dan negara-The lni akan hanya menyusahkan dan Government. Sir, if it can be avoided membosankan ra'ayat bahkan memaksa would not wish to amend the Consti­ negara mengeluarkan perbelanjaan tution unless it considered absolutely yang ban ak untok mengadakan necessary in the publ�c interest and th� r pilehanra ya itu. interest of the Nation. Akan 1etap1 Kerajaan terpaksa mengambil langkah Tuan Yang di-Penua, chuba-lah ini di-sebabkan langkah yang luar kita ambil sa-bagai chontoh ia-itu biasa yang telab di-ambil oleh pehak kekosongan kerusi bagi kawasan Datok PartiBuroh ia-itu yang telah meoimbul­ Keramat yang telah di-kosonlJkan oleh kan keadaan yang luar biasa di-negara Yang Berhormat Enche' Lim Kean kita ini di-sebabkan mereka itu telah Siew. Jika sa-kira-nya pilehanraya melctallan jawatan dengan beramai2 kcchil untok mengisi kekosongan ini dari Dewan Ra'ayat dan Dewan di-jalankan masa ini perkara ini tidak Undangan Negcri dan meletakkan berma'ana sadikit pun dan tidak mem­ jawatan juga pada satu masa. Menurut beri apa2 faedah kerana sa-siapa juga Perkara S4 (1) Perlembagaan kita, satu yang di-pileh itu tidak ada peluang pun kekosongan semcntara (casual vacancy) hendak mengambil kerusi dalam dalam Dewan Ra'ayat atau Dewan Dewan ini, sebab ini-lah Persidangan Undangan Negeri hendak-lah di-isi Dewan yang akhir sa-belum D•wan dalam tcmpoh 60 hari sa-lepas ber­ ini di-bubarkan. laku kekosongan itu. Oleh itu perbuat­ an meletakkan jawatan di-masa negara Tuan Yang di-Penua, tujuan meng­ kita sedang benedia untok menghadap1 adakan pindaan ini ia·lah semata2 pilehanraya umum tidak berapa bulan hendak mengelakkan kita daripada 3105 14 JANUARI 1969 3106 menjalankan satu2 perkara yang tidak the Constitution of Nigeria there is no berfaedah dan menahan daripada prescribed period for a by-election to chara demokrasi yang kita amalkan be held. So in all these Constitutions itu di-salah gunakan oleh pehak2 yang there is a flexibility. Udak perchayakan kapada demokrasi. Sir, we feel that our proposal is fair, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Clause I (2) in that in normal times. there is a Rang Undang2 ini menetapkan bahawa prescribed period of two months-60 Rang Uodang2 ini akan bermula kuat­ days in West Malaysia, 90 days in kuasa-nya pada l8hb November, 1968, East Malaysia-when a by-election ia-itu 6 bulan sa-belum Parlimen must be held when a casual vacancy sekaraog ini di-bubar. Sa-bagaimana occurs. However. six months before yang terma'alum chadangan meminda the General Election, before Parliament Perlembagaan ini ia-lah untok meng­ stands dissolved or the State Legis­ hadapi keadaan yang telah timbul lative Council stands dissolved, there sekarang dan juga keadaan yang sama should not be any by-election to fill yang mungkin timbul di-masa2 yang casual vacancies. As I explained, Sir, akan datang. Untok menghadapi the object of this Bill is merely to keadaan yang timbul sekarang ini, prevent us from doing things which maka perlu-lah Rang Undang2 ini di­ would have practically no value at all kuat-kuasakan mulai dari tarikh yang but would be a mere waste of time di-sebutkan ini. for the voters of this country and a waste of money to the Government Clause 3 Rang Undang' ini mem­ and in order to meet this peculiar buat peruntokan untok meminda Sek­ situation, unusual situation. we reluc­ shen 9 Bahagian I, Schedule 8. Ini tantly propose this short amendment sangat-lah mustahak bagi menchapai to our Constitution. persamaan dalam Perlembagaan Per­ sekutuan dan Perlembagaanf Negeri. Sir, I beg to move that the Bill be read a second time. Clause 4 membuat peruntokan supaya pindaan2 101 berkuat-kuasa Menteri Kewangan (Tun Tan Siew juga di-Negeri2 Malaysia. Ini, Tuan Sin): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Yang di-Pertua, ada-Iah perlu kerana menyokong. pindaan ini hendak-lah berkuat-kuasa sekarang juga di-seluroh Malaysia Dr Lim Chong Eu (Tanjong) (denRan untok menghadapi masaalah yang izin): Mr Speaker, Sir, one of the main telah di-timbulkan dengan tidak mem­ reasons why I find myself completely erlukan tiap2 Negeri membuat pindaan in disagreement with the Members dalam Perlembagaan masing'. opposite me has been this tendency from 1959 onwards to tamper with the Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pehak Keraja­ Constitution. The saving phrase that an telah pun menyemak Perlembagaan2 is always used is "benefit of the di-negara2 Commonwealth. nation". Sir. here again we have the Sir, we have looked at the Consti­ same formula being used and whilst we tutions of some of the Commonwealth accept that from the limited approach countries. We found that provisions of the Alliance the Alliance considers for this purpose in those Constitutions that if it remains in power it will are flexible. In India, for instance, be to the benefit of the nation, whereas there is no period set for the by­ we on our side believe that if they get election to fill any casual vacancy; the out of power or thrown out of power matter is left in the hands of the then it will be to the benefit of the Election Commission. In the same nation. So. Sir, even on this saving way with Singapore; under the Singa­ grace, we find fundamental differences, pore Parliamentary Election Ordinance but it is quite an extraordinary the President of the Republic is coincidence that the entry of the required to issue a writ of election Labour Party of Malaya, and later of and has the discretion to specify the Malaysia, into Parliament and the exit date on which a by-election should be of the Labour Party fr om Parliament held. In the same way, if we look at should be the cause of Alliance panic 3107 14 JANUARI 1969 3108 to the extent that they have consistently occurred and not the date when the amended the Constitution on the election was held. pretext of benefit of the nation simply Dr Lim Chong En: Sir, there was because they panic at every single also the Serdang by-election which action taken by the Labour Party of took place whatever it is, Sir, there will Malaya. be by-elections affected. Therefore, here Sir, if the Labour Party by existing again, we have this curious habit of itself from this House can cause the the Alliance by retrospective legisla­ Alliance to find no other solution but tion to do away with something that to amend the Constitution, then I must has already occurred. In this particular say that the resources of the Alliance case, the Alliance is willing to concede Party or the Government to meet the one of its seats, but if we were to needs of ensuring the security of the accept that this type of Amendment can nation is really right down to rock be made and there had been a series bottom. Sir, we are fundamentally of non-Alliance victories, then Consti­ opposed to this concept of cutting into tutional amendments of this nature can the Constitution and amending the be used as a tool whereby actions that Constitution : and when the Govern­ have already taken by the general ment suddenly decides to present public and the electorate can be amendments to the Constitution and nullified by this House. That is the with grim determination decides also perniciousness of this particular that it is going to pass this Amend­ Amendment. ment within a matter of a few hours. Next Sir, what would happen if, for there will be a chain reaction of con­ example, at some future date there were quences, far greater than the immediate a Government, unless we are going to benefit that the Government may hope accept the Alliance thesis that written to achieve. We have seen a series of Constitutions are there to be amended these consequences, and we can anu­ and chopped and changed every now cipate a few more from this present and then and that we should not go into proposed amendment. this business of constitutional amend­ Sir, let us look at the proposed ments with a gravity and with a sense of Amendment as it stands. If this present history supposing there was in some Amendment were to be passed and we future date a Government which accept that the dato whereby the depended on a very slender majority. Parliament shall stand dissolved as and a series of casual vacancies took established by the Constitution would place, not by the action of the Labour be May the 18th-and I think the date Party of Malaya but by the Grace of May 18th was also mentioned publicly God. then, Sir, how would this Amend­ by the Honourable Deputy Prime ment then meet a situation like that? Minister-then, Sir, tf we take six (Interruption) Sir, it is true and that is months from that date, we find our­ precisely what we are leading up to. selves back to round about November, The Honourable Ministers all seem to 18th. In that period, between Novem­ be all aquiver and frisky trying to ber 18th and now, several by-elections comment on my speech even without have already taken place. Will the the courtesy of standing up before you, passage of this Amendment to the Sir, (Laughter) and this is the attitude Constitution nullify and make void of the Frontbench towards this whole those elections that have already been process of Constitutional amend­ held? ments-something to be taken light­ heartedly on aside. Ton Haji Abdul Rauk: Mr Speaker. Sir, on a point of clarification, there Sir, one of the things that the has been only one election, i.e. in Muar, Government should have done, if it where the Alliance candidate won un­ wanted to meet the challenge of the contested; the rest will not be affected Labour Party of Malaya, fairly and by this Constitutional Amendment as squarely, was to call for an early the effective date is when the vacancy election. There was nothing to prevent 3109 14 JANUARI 1969 3110 the Government to meet this particular understand also that the Alliance has situation to dissolve the Parliament con1e to this meeting armed with a earlier-it can dissolve it at the end of series of tools of election battle, this session and call an election within including this Amendment to the 30 days of the dissolution of this Constitution. Sir, I say in all fairness to Parliament. By that way also the this country, whose people have all been Government could meet the exigency trampled while the Alliance Party in that has arisen without having to power for all these years and whose change the Constitution. Therefore, Sir, Constitution the Alliance sometimes I maintain that this idea of amending say sacrosanct and at other times treat the Constitution was not, first of all, with great disdain, is now again been placed fully and definitely on the basis thrown apart as a final gesture of of benefit to the nation; and, secondly, the Alliance honour towards the Sir, it is not even caused by the exit of Constitution, Sir, it seems as though the Labour Party of Malaysia from the this habit of perpetually amending the Parliament and various State Assem­ Constitution is something that has be­ blies in this country. Sir, the reason come completely pernicious and has why this Amendment is necessary is gone into the Alliance, and even as the because the Alliance Party feels that last parting shot in this session of the it is necessary to conduct the elections House, they must make one more final some time after May of this year. amendment to the Constitution before they say "Goodbye". Now. let us examine the proposition carefully from the point of view of Sir, this Bill is pernicious in so many what the Honourable Deputy Prime different ways but, although in its Minister has said and from the pro­ particular immediate application, it visions of the Constitution. Sir. the appears fairly docile in comparison Honourable Deputy Prime Minister has with other constitutional amendments stated that tltis is the last meeting of that have been made, it still neverthe­ the House. less climaxed a record of a series of constitutional amendments made at the There will therefore, be probably a slightest pretext with the sole power, lapse of a period of time between the the sole objective, not for the benefit end of the session of this House and of the nation, but purely for the whatever date the Government chooses benefit of the Alliance Party. Sir, from to dissolve the House-before May the that point of view, I maintain, first 18th that is the operative date. The of all. there on principle we must elections that will take place by oppose this constitutional Amendment; provision of the Constitution must be secondly, Sir. we must oppose it be­ held within 60 days for West Malaysia cause the provisions of the constitu­ and 90 days for East Malaysia. So tional Amendment so proposed will assuming, Sir. even if Government were lead to consequences which are un­ to dissolve the House immediately after desirable. the end of this session. say, sometime Sir. even if we were to accept that in the middle of February, it will mean the only way whereby you could meet that the general elections will take the Labour Party's challenge to the place roughly 90 days, and it will be security and stability of the House about May of this year before this requires constitutional amendment. 1 House convenes again. But provision of suggest that the amendment could be the Constitution also allows that the made otherwise; amendments could be House must reconvene within 120 days made, for example, Sir, to Article 51 of the date of election. So, Sir. the modifying Article 51 in a manner Alliance Government can very easily whereby the power is given to the prolong its life as a Caretaker Govern­ Speaker of this House anc! the President ment between now and for the next of the Senate to put aside any letters of four months. resignation within the six months Sir, we understand the impact of this period which the Alliance thinks last present Budget proposals and we necessary for itself to gear its 3111 14 JANUARI 1969 3112 machinery up to send me out of this to see who is going out, if the Alliance House. really wants to have a test of the situation, and in Penang certainly there Another way, Sir, to make matters is a great feeling and strong feeling fair is that Government so proposes if that this particular Amendment, to make the constitutional amendments particularly Clause 3 of this Amend­ of this nature, it should involve not ment, is designed specifically to deny the only the Lower House but it should people of Ayer Hitam, of Jelutong, also involve the Upper House, because and also of Prangin the right to express we have to think of Parliament as a their discontent to the Alliance unit Sir, there is no reason why the Government and their desire to vote re­ power of the people to elect its for the Opposition. Sir, it is a very presentatives to the Lower House simple matter. If the Government feels should not be correlated with the it this way, they can withdraw this power of the Alliance Party or the Amendment and dissolve the House, Party in power to make appointments and let us have this by-election to the Upper House. Sir, the amend­ if immediately. ments are really going to be sincere and honest, the amendments should apply Sir, in all earnestness I say to the to both Houses rather than just this Government, show the people that you House and to the State Assembly. are really and sincerely upholding the Constitution, do not bang it at the Sir, there is one other factor which machinations of the L.P.M�. or the makes this particular Amendment Labour Party of Malaya. I mean even rather sad and rather unfortunate. Sir, by going out of the door you get for the last four and a half years apart frightened. Sir, this is a most peculiar from occasional casual vacancies that situation. I suggest, Sir, to the Govern­ have been caused, the people by and ment that the people of this country large in this country had been deprived understand fully well what is the from the right of elections and we had meaning of this Amendment, and no accepted in this country that the large matter what the Alliance Party may groups of the electoral institutions of say, it does not add anymore to their this country spring from the local credit, little as they have made it in authority, but for the last four and . a this particular session of the House, half years these havo been put m which began very dramatically by a abeyance, and large numbers of popula­ constitutional Amendment to evict one tion have not had the chance to State from the Malaysia which was exercise their rights and some of them, formed. And now at the last meeting of who have come of age and who will this session it should again make a become voters, have not had the constitutional amendment to deprive opportunity of exercising their rights the people of that little right of under normal circumstances. exercising their democratic right of elections. Sir, I call on the Government Sir, the other factor, or course, is this to withdraw this proposed amendment. little slight aside which we hear-this is going to be my farewell speech in this Tuan Dr. R. Seeoiv-pm (lpob) House, so forth and so on. But, Sir, (dengan izin): Mr Speaker, Sir, when amongst the resignations that are taking we came into this House we took an place, apart from the fact that I now Oath. I remember that the Oath says, occupy the seat which was once held by "to protect and uphold the Consti­ the Honourable Member for Dato tution of this country." From events Kramat (Laughter), the Honourable over the years, I think it would have Member for Dato Kramat also happens been more appropriate if it had said, to be a Member of the State Assembly "to protect and uphold the Consti­ as a td�mber of Ayer Hitam, and tution, as amended from time to amongst the spate of resignations, there time." No doubt, that is implicit in will be three State by-elections in the the Oath, but since the intention of State of Penang, if this Amendment is the Alliance Government was such, not pushed through. Sir, we would like perhaps, the more appropriate one 3113 14 JANUARI 1969 3114 would have been " .....as amen­ It has been said that it will cause ded from time to time.n However. inconvenience to the electorate, it will when the Honourable Member for cause trouble for them to go and Tanjong spoke, there were cries of, vote. I cannot find an argument which "This is your farewell speech, your is more fantastic to support a weak swan song." If it is a swan song, it is a case for the amendment of the Consti­ swan song, because the people wanted tution. But I think what takes the it to be the swan song ; and whether cake is this: the case, the simplicity, it is the Member for Tanjong or the the innocence with which the Alliance Member for lpoh. as I am. we will be Government says. "All right, we will proud, if it is the wish of the people amend the Constituttion to meet the that we do not sit here. However. as situation." what is going to happen far as our friends, large sections here, if. as the Honourable Member for are concerned, this will be the last Tanjong said, in the future a Govern­ opportunity for many of them-there ment has a slim majority, say a majo­ will be new faces coming in-to rape rity of five, and those five resigned? the Constitution of this country; this They do not cross over, they resign, will be their last farewell opportunity therefore causing casual vacancies. Is to do so, because they are certainly the whole Government going to resign not coming back here. not because the and call for a general ele.:tion. or are people wish or otherwise, but because you going to fill those vacancies by their Party says, "You are not good by-elections, as it should be done. or enough to come back here." (Laughter). a complete resignation for a general Mr. Speaker, Sir, as far as lpoh is election? Now, that situation could concerned, anybody can come and try, arise. How then is this Amendment go­ there is no harm in trying, but I say. ing to help us, if we have in the future, try and take it if you can in the next as every democracy should have, not elections. Putting aside this childish an overwhelming majority but a work­ point, let us get to the facts. able majority. And things like that could happen in this country. But I Now, Sir, what is that the Labour think the argument may be, "Well, Party Members are resigning for? these are extreme situations. We did They are resigning on a definite. not anticipate resignations of this serious political issue. They resigned nature just on the brink of a General because they say democracy is dead; Election." All right. Why do you want they say the administration of justice to violate the Constitution by taking and the workings of the Government away elections? Why don't you do as are not democratic. are dictatorial, what you did with Local Council and should not be tolerated by people Elections-give the party that sent a who love democracy. We have eminent representative here the right to nomi­ men who have resigned on that score, nate a representative for the balance on that principle, and one of them is of the period? 'You may say. "Well. the Member for Dato Kramat. In every the Labour Party would not nomi­ country where an elected represen­ nate." Then nobody can blame the tative resigns, that vacancy is filled by Government, if they say. "If you don't another election, so that there will be nominate, we will nominate a man to no taxation without representation; represent the people of that area." there must be representation for Why is it that that was not thought of? taxation. Whether it is six months, or Why is it that, that was not thought whether it is nine months, or whether of. it is considered not workable as it is a year, the principle to be applied far as Parliament or State Assemblies is the same. The framers of the Consti­ tution of this country must most are concerned? Why is it considered certainly have been aware of possible workable as far as Local Authorities political developments, political up­ are concerned? What is the difference heavals. and political differences on the question of election and repre­ amongst the people and politicians of sentation in Local Authorities or the country, and this is one of the Parliament or the State Assemblies? events which must have been foreseen. An amendment of that nature to the 3115 14 JANUARI 1969 3116

Constitution would not have violated Constitution as no more than a regu­ it, because it would have given the larly revisable scrap of paper? This is people of the area who elected a party the impression that the Government into representation in the House the itself gives with regard to its own same power to nominate another treatment of the Constitution. representative to the House failing which then and then only, the Govern­ There seems to be, Sir, three diffe­ ment could nominate a person to the rent attitudes on the Constitutional House. All in all. I agree with the Amendment Bill before this House. Member for Tanjong, although I was First, the Government, which claim to disturbed to read a statement from have been irritated by the Labour his Party saying that they support this Party's moves, and therefore seek to Amendment, but I am glad that that free themselves from this irritation by had been cleared, and I do not think having recourse to legislative action. any sensible person can support this Then, there are politicians and perhaps Amendment. The statement may have even an Opposition political party or been cleared by the Member for Tan­ parties, who probably have reasons to jong. We of the P.P.P. strongly oppose fear that they may lose very badly in this on principle and say that there the by-election, caused by the recent are methods by which the situation spate of resignations from the Parlia­ could have been successfully met, ment and State Legislatures and particularly in view of the fact that the thereby damage their chances in the resignations were not haphazard-they coming General Elections. Therefore, were resignations on a very serious they might prefer to support the issue of the denial of fundamental Government in the legislative move to rights and justice to the people of this amend the Constitution. As the Mem­ country. For those reasons we oppose ber for Ipoh has pointed out, at least the Amendment. one Opposition politician is on public record as expressing his support for Tuan C. V. Devan Nair (Bungsar) the Government. Finally, there are (dengan izin): Mr Speaker, Sir, at first those political parties which are quite glance some people may be misled into prepared to put up with all the incon­ believing that there is some justification veniences, so that existing consti­ in feeling irritated by the need to tutional requirements may be met. They hold a series of by-elections, when are ready, therefore, to take their the General Elections are only a few chances at the polls, even if it means months ahead, as a consequence of a that they should have to do so twice number. of deliberately phased-out within a few months. resignations of one Member of Parlia­ ment and a number of State Assembly­ Sir, in reply to the Government's men with the motive of embarrassing stated intention in introducing this constitutional procedures in the coun· Constitutional Amendment Bill. the try. Sir, that clearly is the aim of the DA.P. submits that mere irritation at Communist Party of Malaysia. Again, the series of staggered resignations some people might be tempted to from the Parliament and State Assem­ succumb to the argument that if by­ blies is certainly not a sufficient basis elections were now to be held in for tinkering about with the Consti­ Penang for a vacant Parliament seat tution of a Nation. If that were there, the chances are that the Mem­ allowed, as it has already regrettably ber elected would not be able to take been allowed to happen more than his seat in this Parliament as it is due once in the life of this Parliament, a for dissolution soon. I submit, how­ most unhealthy precedent will be setand ever, Sir, that there is a vital need to we will face the prospect of having look at the whole problem in greater Clauses in our national Constitution depth than the Government apparent­ amended every time the Government ly is prepared to do. Is it, for leaders allow themselves to suffer some example, in the best long-term interest irritation. If irritation is to be used as of this Nation that the people in this an excuse, then the D.A.P. might point country should come to regard our out that we, and other opposition 3117 14 JANUARI 1969 3118

parties as well. have far more reason better or worse". Married couples, who to complain about the inconvenience of seek divorce on the basis of every contesting a number of by-elections at a other irritation, never last long and time when the General Elections are just as marriage vows govern the con­ just around the corner. We have far duct of a successful marriage under less financial resources than the all religions, so must the values Alliance and we would, therefore, have enshrined in the Constitution be to suffer a far greater strain on our clearly seen to govern the conduct slender resources than the Alliance of our national life, if we are to avoid Party with all their moneyed tycoons ;giving strength to those who seek behind them would be obliged to bear. lo spread disillusionment and disen­ But to our way of thinking the best chantment in the hearts and minds of way to mei:t any threat to irritate you our people with regard to the value is to refuse to be irritated, and the best and relevance of the provisions of the way to defend this Nation against th,1se, Constitution in the conduct of who deliberately seek to embarrass our national life. constitutional processes, is to calmly Sir, what we in the D.A.P. find refuse to be embarrassed. unnerving is not so much the growing Sir, if I were Mr Chin Peng. squat­ evidence of increasing recourse to ting on the Malaysian-Thai border unconstitutional methods on the part of and planning moves to prove to the the Malayan Communist Party and its Malaysian public that the Constitution allies and proxies as the more alarming of this nation is by no means sacro­ evidence of the incapacity of the poli­ sanct, that it is just a meaningless tical leadership of this nation to meet scrap of paper devoid of significance, this challenge. Indeed, it would seem and as Chin Peng I aim thereby to that some of the most successful shatter public confidence in the sanctity recruiting agents for communist aims or relevance of constitutional provi­ in this nation are the creations of sions in the conduct of the national Alliance policies-political. social and life, then I am sure that I would be economic. And among the factors pleased by the way the Government which lead to the lowering of general has chosen to react to my intentions. confidence is the ease with which the for the Government would be helping Alliance Government allows itself to me to achieve precisely what I have be stampeded into tampering with the set out to achieve-loss of confidence Constitution at the slightest threat to in constitutional processes as the neces­ its own peace of mind or its own sary basis for eventually launching a partisan interests as in the case of new armed insurrection in this country. Sarawak. Sir, if we want to be a viable demo­ The Alliance leadership, Sir, may be cracy and if we are to meet success­ tempted to regard the periodical fully the serious threat to the internal tampering with constitutional sanctities security of our nation from those who we live by as acts of political sagacity. have scant respect for constitutional but what may seem to be an advantage methods but prefer rather the way of in the short term may prove in the long violent Vietcong-style revolution, then run to have been a reckless and foolish one of the basic values we have to descration in the public mind of the systematically inculcate and establish in sanctity of the Constitution which this the hearts and minds of our people is nation should have lived by as the the sanctity. workability and inviola­ safest insurance against the threats bility of our national Constitution. which face us. As in the case of the The acceptance of such values must Sarawak cns1s, when the Alliance be deeply ingrained in the hearts of Government deemed it proper to all Malaysians, just like our accep­ amend the Constitution, in order to tance of the sanctity of marriage vows secure their short term partisan in which, at least as far as the Chris­ interests in that State, the trauma tian version goes, "to hold. cherish inflicted on the national mind was the and protect, for richer or poorer, for question, "Does the Constitution 3119 14 JANUARI 1969 3120 govern the conduct of the Government, In all the circumstances, Sir. my or does the Government govern the party must refuse categorically to give conduct of the Constitutions." And the its assent to the proposed constitutional damaging answer to this query as far amendment, as being calculated to as intelligent Malaysians are able to further damage confidence in the judge is that both in the first as well as sanctity, workability and inviolability in the last analysis, the Government's of the Constitution. own moods and interests are allowed In conclusion, Sir, the Deputy Prime to take precedence over the Constitu­ Minister, when presenting this Bill, tion. Sir, the better part of wisdom, I made the observation that something submit, Sir, is surely, in terms of the like that was in operation in Singapore, vital need to establish in the public and I am gratified, Sir, that it will be mind, against any risk of communist on the record of this Parliament that subversion, beyond all doubt, the for once it was the Deputy Prime sanctity of the Constitution, would be Minister of Malaysia who used Singa­ to stop treating the Constitution as a pore as an example and not the periodically revisable and frequently Member for Bungsar. Sir, there it is an alterable scrap of paper. Only thus can entirely different situation; for one we, the Government as well as all those thing, conditions are different and, in who believe in constitutional processes, any case, Mr Chin Peng is not yet show those who seek to sow the seeds squatting on the South Johore border of disenchantment-let us not forget, with Singapore as be is now on the Sir, that in the recent Serdang by­ Malaysian-Thai border. Thank you, election, the Labour Party probably Sir. managed to keep away from the polls between 20 and 25% of the electorate Menteri Kewaogan (Tun Tan Siew on the grounds that constitutional Sin) (dengan izin): Mr Speaker, Sir, I democracy in this country was a have listened, and this no doubt applies farce-that we can show them who are to my colleagues on this side of the trying to sow the seeds of disenchant­ House, very carefully to the speeches ment with constitutional methods of which have been made by the Opposi­ political action in the public mind that tion on this Bill. Many previous spea­ the Constitution of this nation is kers have accused the Government of unembarrassable. Indeed, let us ask panicking, stampeding and such like ourselves honestly : has the Constitution terms, but I think every fair-minded suffered embarrassment to any signifi­ observer would concede that, far from cant degree as a result of the Labour panicking, the Government bas reacted Party's moves? At the most the Labour very moderately and in a very res­ Party's moves were no more than a trained manner to what is admitted by rather weak attempt to establish that Hon 'hie Members of the Opposi­ constitutional processes are of little use tion themselves as irresponsible beha­ in this country. Some inconvenience, viour on the part of the Labour Party yes, and more inconvenience for the of Malaya. There has been no panic; Opposition parties with less resources there bas been no stampede: this is than the Alliance, but nothing to just a sensible response to an irres­ justify the Government in reacting in ponsible act. the way it bas done. In truth, if the Honourable Members of. the Opposi­ Labour Party's moves have assumed a tion have given the impression that the greater significance in the public mind Constitution must never be changed. than it deserves, it is only because the We on this side of the House, agree Government bas chosen to over-react that the Constitution is sacrosanct; we to them and actually proposes to agree that the Constitution is impor­ amend the Constitution. But, Sir, I do tant; but there is nothing irresponsible, not understand why in the name of there is nothing wrong in amending heaven, we should try and shoot a goal the Constitution if what happens in the into our own net, which is exactly what future dictates that such change is the Alliance Government is doing. desirable or, indeed, necessary. I 3121 14 JANUARI 1969 3122

cannot think of any Constitution in the I was particularly surprised to hear world, from the Constitution of the the speech of the Honourable Member United States of America to any other for Bungsar. He, as usual, uses very Constitution outside Malaysia. which strong language to criticise us, but I has not been changed in the course of wonder if he really knows the position time and, fortunately, in this in Singapore. When Singapore was in country we have the requisite majority Malaysia, Article 33 of the Singapore to effect a change when we consider Constitution provided as follows : such a change desirable. Far from this "Whenever the seat of a Member has being unfortunate. I think the country become vacant for any reason other should be happy that at this point in than a dissolution, the vacancy shall time, at least we have got a sufficient within three months from the date on majority to effect change where change which it is established that there is a is indicated. (Applause). vacancy be filled by election in the manner provided by or under any law It is important, Sir. that a Constitu­ for the time being in force in the State." tion should not be rigid, it should be In other words, at that time Singapore flexible, because this Constitution is had practically the same provision as made for the people of Malaysia. Man we have now except that the period is not made for a political Constitution, was three months instead of the 60 but rather the constitution is made for days which we have now. When the people of Malaysia and, therefore, Singapore separated from Malaysia, we should not regard any change as however. it lost no time. in fact, it was wrong merely because it is change. Let in December, 1965, three months later, us remember, Sir, that in this world that the Government passed the everything changes except the process Singapore Constitution (Amendment) of changing. One of the dangers. in Act, 1965, which, among other things. fact, of a written Constitution is that it amended the Article 33 referred to is inclined to be inflexible and that is earlier by deleting the words "within why one of the most successful three months from the date on which it democracies in the world is Britain, is established that there is a vacancy". where there is no Constitution at all; The effect of this amendment is that in fact. it is merely an unwritten there is no longer a prescribed period Constitution and quite often it is within which any vacancy occurring in nothing more than a gentleman's the Singapore Parliament may be filled. agreen1ent. Therefore, under Singapore's Parlia­ mentary practice, it is open to the Now. if Honourable Members will President of the Republic of Singapore care to look back to a point in time. to issue no writ at all when a vacancy nearly 12 years ago, when I had the occurs, as the law does not specify the honour of seconding a Motion by the date on which a by-election should be then Chief Minister, who is now the held. Prime Minister, on the Constitution Bill. then I said more or less The Honourable Member made an the following words. I said, "In oblique reference to the state of affa irs independent Malaya (as it then was) in Singapore and stated that conditions we must take care not to a11ow too in Singapore are entirely different. I agree with him. Conditions in Singa­ much rein to those who use the pore, in fact, do not require this provi­ weapons of democracy in the holy sion beca use, as he himself rightly name of democracy in order to destroy pointed out, Mr Chin Peng is not democracy itself". That is what we are squatting on the Johore Bahru Cause­ witnessing today in the acts of the way but on the Malaysian-Thai border. Labour Party, and I think that far from and therefore, we have far more reason castigating the Government, the people than Singapore to introduce an amend­ of this country should congratulate the ment, and yet Singapore took the Government on reacting so \visely and opportunity to introduce this very with such restraint. (Applause). amendment, and in far worse terms, 3123 14 JANUARI 1969 3124 three months after separation. I. tukarkan, kami berkata buku ini boleh therefore. advise the Honourable di-tukarkan, tetapi, Tuan Yang di­ Member to address a lecture to his Pertua, pada dasar-nya kami berkata masters in Singapore (Laughter). It is kami hendak beritahu kapada pehak very significant, Sir, that this particular Kerajaan kalau sekira-nya Kerajaan Honourable Member has not been seen Perikatan hendak menukar. meminda within the precincts of this building for Perlembagaan ini, sila-lah beri masa a very long time and I have a sneaking yang menchukupi, bukan kapada Ahli2 suspicion that he has come specially Dewan ini bahkan kapada ra'ayat di­ for this purpose in order to deliver this seluroh Malaysia, oleh sebab, Tuan lecture to us. I suggest that it is a very Yang di-Pertua, akibatl pindaan Per­ good lecture, but it would be far more lembagaan ini bukan kena mengena appropriate, if it were delivered in Ahli2 di-Dewan ini sahaja, tetapi Singapore (Applause). ra'ayat di-seluroh Malaysia pun pindaan ini akibat-nya kena kapada If may refer to another country. I mereka. and this is the biggest and probably one of the best functioning democracies Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bukan AhJil in the whole world-I refer to India­ Dewan ini sahaja boleh menimbang. where Section 149 of the Representa­ berfikir, bertukar fikiran tentang tion of the People Act. 1951. provides pindaan yang di-kemukakan oleh that when the seat of a member Timbalan Perdana Menteri, tetapi elected to the House of the People ra'ayat juga. Tetapi malang-nya. Tuan becomes vacant the Election Commis­ Yang di-Pertua, pindaan ini di-taroh sion may by notification in the Gazette di-meja kami pada dua hari yang lalu call upon the Parliamentary constitu­ dan bukan sekarang sahaja. Tuan Yang ency concerned to elect a person for di-Pertua, saya kerap kali telah ber­ the purpose of filling the vacancy kata kapada pehak Kerajaan, kalau before such date as may be specified in sekira-nya mereka hendak meminda the notification. Again, it can be seen Perlembagaan Malaysia, sila-lah beri that there is no prescribed period masa yang menchukupi kapada AhJil within which any by-election should be Dewan ini dan juga kapada ra'ayat di­ held in the event of a vacancy occurr­ seluroh Malaysia oleh sebab kalau, ing, but such discretion lies entirely pada pendapat saya dan pada pendapat with the Election Commission. Gerakan. pindaan saperti ini saya sa­ bagai Wakil dari Batu hendak ber­ It will, therefore, be seen that the hubong. hendak berunding dengan two provisions in both the Indian and pengundi2 dan ra'ayat di-kawasan saya. Singapore laws are far more flexible malang-nya oleh sebab masa singkat. than what we have proposed now. In saya tidak dapat masa untok berhubong fact, what we have proposed now is far atau berunding perkara ini dengan more restrictive because this provision ra'ayat di-kawasan saya. Bagitu juga, only comes into play when the General Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Ahli2 PAS yang Election is not more than six months datang dari Kelantan, bagaimana-kah away. I submit Sir. therefore, that we mereka boleh balek ka-Kelantan untok have taken the minimum response to menimbang. berunding. bertukar what is admittedly a very dangerous fikiran tentang Rang Undang2 ini and serious situation. (Applause). dengan ra'ayat di-Kelantan. Oleh sebab itu, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. kami pehak Dr Tan Chee Khoon (Batu): Tuan Pembangkang tidak bersetuju tentang Yang di-Pertua. saya mohon izin untok Rang Undang2 pindaan yang di­ berchakap dalam Bahasa Kebangsaan kemukakan oleh Timbalan Pcrdana dan bahasa Inggeris. Menteri. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Parti Gerakan (Dengan izin) Mr Speaker, Sir. it Ra'ayat Malaysia pada dasar-nya seems to me that the Alliance Govern­ berkata kami bukan berkata buku ini­ ment is in the habit of making amend­ Perlembagaan Malaysia ia-lah buku ments to the Constituti1)n at the drop yang suchi yang tidak boleh di- of the hat. literarily at the drop of the 3125 14 JANUARI 1969 3126

hat. We do riot say. JS I have stated they \V ant to amend the Constitution before, that this Document, the Consti­ all sections of the people, not just the tution of Malaysia. cannot be changed. States, they must have the Congress and We do not say that the Government, Senate agree. and in the case of if it finds it necessary. and indeed it A1nerica. they have 50 constituent must find it necessary fron1 time to States and three quarters of them must tin1e. should not con1e to this House agree to the amendment before the to change the Constitution. but we say amendment is passed. Now, I do not that in changing this Constitution the say that we should make it so rigid as Gov�rn1nent n1ust have adequate that. but surely in this country we reasons for changing it. I would admit should see that the Constitution is not that the Government had adequate amended at the drop of the hat as it is rea sons on August 8th. 1965 to change done in this case'? the Constitution. It had very compelling Mr Speaker, Sir. before I go further. reasons to change the Constitution. references have been made to a st<.ite­ Although I do not again agree with the ment made by my colleague. Enche• fact that it gave virtually this House V. David when he supported the Tunku and the country no time at all to con­ on the steps that will be takc11 by him. sider the amendment then to evict Now, at that time, I wish to make it Singapore. but I would agree that that very clear. that he did not say that he was compelling reason to amend the Constitution to kick out Singapore. would support this Constitution Amendment Bill. But Mr Speaker. Sir. there have been many other amendments to the Consti­ At that time he merely stated that he tution. all of which have been un­ thought what the Tunku said was necessary. For example, in September, sensible: the Tunku at that time did not 1967. the Alliance Government amend­ mention that he would bring in ed this Constitution--for v;hat reason? constitutional amendments to counter For the sole reason of kicking out a the spate of resignations from recalcitrant Chief �l inister in Sarawak. the Labour Party. I say this, Mr That I submit was not a compelling Speaker, Sir, to make it quite clear to reason or not one of the justifiable this House and to the people of this reasons for amending this ('onstitution. country because the stand of the Then the Alliance Government .... Gerakan in this matter has been enunciated by my colleague the Mem­ Tuan Yang di-Per1ua: .i\.rc you not ber for Tanjong. talking about the present amendment only? Mr Speaker, Sir, like the Member for Ipoh, I wish to ask the Alliance Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker. Government this : have they pondered Sir. I am pointing out that the Consti­ as to the reasons why there should be tution should not this spate of resignations on the part of the elected representatives of the Tuan Yang di-Per1ua: But if you Labour Party? In this House and out­ will keep your speech to the present side this House I have stated tin1e and amendment. it will be better. again, I have warned the Government. Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Y cs. Mr that should they use the Internal Speak�r. Sir. I have pointed out befor.: Security Act to decimate, to aln1ost in this House and I would like to point kill olf the Labour Party of Malaya, out again that elsewhere anJ the then they must expect this spate of Minister of Finance has quoted the resignations. The Labour Party of example of India and the example of Malaya. rightly or wrongly, has come Singapore. but he has conveniently to the conclusion th<.it the den1ocratic forgotten to quote that in the United process is not worthwhile. They have States of America and in Australi<.i. given it a trial and they say that it is two democracies which presumably the not \\'orth1,.vhile pursuing any more. Alliance Government is in close They soy that instead of trying to work relations with-they see to it that when out the dernocratic process they should 3127 14 JANUARI 1969 3128 now take on extra-parliamentary and Alliance Party now enjoys, they have extra-constitutional struggle. Mr merely a small working majority and Speaker, Sir, I have warned the that a number of them bas resigned, Alliance Government of this state of thereby making this majority from a affairs, and you can realise bow small working majority to a minority dangerous it is if this sentiment, if this in fact and then the Alliance Govern­ frustration at the working of the ment, instead of resigning, would even Internal Security Act were to spread to proceed to lock up a few more of those other sections of the community; in of us on this side of the House and other words. instead of being confined then proceed to amend the Constitu­ to members of the Labour Party and tion. What is to prevent that? Today, certain sections of the Party Ra'ayat, from 60 days, it has been extended to if larger numbers in this country come six months. What is there tc prevent to the same belief or come to the same them to say some time at a later date, conclusion that the democratic process "Oh, we don't think six months is is not worthwhile and that they should enough, we think one year is a better take to the extra-parliamentary and time", and from there, as the Minister extra-<:onstitutional struggle, then, Mr of Finance bas himself quoted, from Speaker, Sir, I submit that a very there they can proceed on a la Singa­ dangerous situation can arise, that we pore-let us copy Singapore, a very can well have a Vietcong situation in good neighbour, we can also copy Malaysia. I have also warned the Singapore. What is there to prevent Alliance Government, Mr Speaker, Sir, them, Mr Speaker, Sir. from doing that when this state of affairs arises, in exactly the same thing that the other words, when you have on theone Minister of Finance has cas tiga led the hand the reactionary Alliance Govern­ Member for Bungsar, who unfortu­ ment, and on the other hand the nately is not here now? Mr Speaker. extremists, then when there is a Sir, this is the sort of thing that is so headlong clash between these twoforces, very dangerous in this country. That, those of us, like the Member for Ipob if we want to work the democratic and perhaps also Members from the process. then we should not. as the PMIP. those of us, who believe in the Member for Tanjong bas quite rightly democratic process. we will have no pointed out, panic at any unexpected part to play, we will be just pushed situation. There are so many ways that aside, and you have a headlong clash the Member for Tanjong bas indicated between the forces of tho extreme right in which we can counter such a thing. and the forces of the extreme left. As The most attractive one to me would such, Mr Speaker, Sir, I submit that be to dissolve Parliament as soon as the Alliance Party, instead of merely this House has completed its business !\ringing amendments to the Constitu­ for this session and then we can­ tion to counteract acts of the Labour there is no need to amend the Consti­ Party, they should also ponder deeply tution-really test whether they have as to the whys and wherefores the the support of the people or we on this elected representatives of the Labour side of the House have the support of Party of Malaya have sent in their the people, and in that case there would resignations, so that we can work out be no need to amend the Constitution. the democratic process in this country. Mr Speaker. Sir. I say that if Mr Speaker, Sir, my colleague the parliamentary democracy in this Member for Tanjong and the Member country is to survive. then the voters for lpoh have pointed out what can and people of this country must realise possibly arise as a result of this that they must deny to the Alliance Amendment. Let us say that in the not Government the two-thirds majority very distant future there are more of us that they now enjoy. because even if the on this side of the House and less of people of this country decide that the them on the opposite side of the House Alliance Government should be given and, as the Member for I poh has stated, another lease of life, and perhaps I may instead of the huge majority that the agree with them that they should be 3129 14 JANUARI 1969 3130

given another lease of life, but I do memerentah tidak ada jalan lain yang hope that the people of this country, the menasabah yang patut di-ambil. me­ voters of this country, will realise that lainkan meminda Perlembagaan kita in order that parliamentary democracy itu. can survive, and it should survive, then Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Tanjong the Alliance Government must be membuat tudohan ia-itu Kerajaan denied the two-thirds monolithic Perikatan sentiasa sahaja suka majority that they now enjoy, because meminda Perlembagaan dengan suka in that event they can only amend the hati dan juga telah membuat tudohan Constitution with the approval of those ia-itu pindaan ini ada-lah di-ma'anakan of us sitting on this side of the House. untok faedah Kerajaan Perikatan sa­ I submit, Mr Speaker, Sir, that it is of mata'. Tuan Yang di-Pertua. tudohan paramount importance for the people of saperti ini ada-lah tidak berasas, dan this country, that the Constitution can mesti di-sangkal dengan keras-nya. only be amended with the approval of Bagitu juga Ahli Yang Berhormat dari those of us sitting on this side of the Ipoh telah membuat tudohan, ia-itu House. After all, the Government has a demokrasi di-

ini telah pun di-jadikan issue kempen gunakan demokrasi yang di-dapati sa-chara besaran2 oleh Parti Buroh di-negeri ini. Hendak chari satu pun dan lain2 parti Pembangkang, tetapi S3- susah dalam sa-ribu orang, Tuan Yang tiap masa ra'ayat di-dalam negeri ini di-Pertua, yang menyangkakan bahawa menyokong penoh Kerajaan Perikataq Parti Buroh boleh mengambil tindakan dan sampai pada hari ini Kerajaan yang sa-demikian rupa ia-itu berhenti sentiasa di-sokong dengan ada-nya beramai2 dari Dewan Negeri dan Dewan Undang2 Keselamatan Dalam Negeri Ra'ayat sedangkan mereka mengetahui ini. Kita semua dan ra'ayat semua tahu, benar2 pilehanraya umum akan di­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Undang2 Kesela­ adakan hanya dalam masa lebeh matan Dalam Negeri ada-lah bertujuan kurang empat bulan lagi. Tuan Yang untok memberi keselamatan dan ke­ di-Pertua, kalau pindaan kapada bahagiaan kapada ra'ayat jelata semua. Perlembagaan tidak di-buat neschaya Dan Kerajaan Perikatan juga sedar ia­ kita terpaksa mengadakan pilehan­ itu ada-lah kehendak ra'ayat dan ada­ raya kechil dalam masa dua bulan lah hasrat ra'ayat mesti pada satu2 lagi, sedangkan Dewan2 Negeri dan ketika Kerajaan yang memerentah itu Dewan Ra'ayat akan di-bubarkan tidak menjamin keselamatan dan kebahagiaan berapa lama lagi. Dari itu, Tuan Yang ra'ayat dan ini-lah yang di-Iakukan oleh di-Pertua, mana lojik-nya tindakan Kerajaan Perikatan. Kalau hendak Parti Buroh itu yang boleh di-katakan di-adakan juga, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. melanggar discipline dan semangat pilehanraya kechil saperti yang di­ demokrasi dan Perlembagaan. kehendaki oleh Parti Buroh itu men­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pada akhir­ jelang pilehanraya umum hanya tidak nya hari ini saya suka melihat mana sampai empat bulan lagi hendak pula lagi Ahli2 Yang Berhorrnat dalam di-adakan pilehanraya kechil ini dan Dewan ini yang menentang usu! tidak sampai pun empat bulan lagi pindaan ini kerana pendapat saya hendak pula di-adakan pilehanraya sa-siapa yang menentang boleh-lah sa-kali lagi, maka ini sudah tentu akan di-anggapkan sa-bagai menentang satu membazirkan wang ra'ayat sahaja dan usaha untok mengelakkan dari mem­ akan menyusahkan ra'ayat sa-mata2. boros wang ra'ayat dan satu usaha Tuan Yang di-Pertua, chara bagini untok mengelakkan orang' dari me­ Perlembagaan di-permainkan oleh nyalah gunakan demokrasi. Parti Buroh sudah tentu di-ketawakan Toan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzab oleh dunia luar kalau Kerajaan tidak (Bachok): Ya, saya menentang. bertindak balas dengan tegas dan segera. Tindakan Kerajaan ini ada-lah Dato' Abdullah bin Abdulrahman: jelas. satu rupa tindakan yang patut Baik, kita boleh dengar kemudian, dan harus di-lakukan oleh mana' Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Tambahan Kerajaan yang mempunyai perasaan pula pindaan ini juga, Tuan Yang tanggong-jawab penoh terhadap ke­ di-Pertua. ada-lah juga akan menge­ pentingan ra'ayat dan negara. maskan lagi Perlembagaan kita supaya tidak dapat di-permain2kan oleh Tuan Yang di-Pertua, tindakan parti' politik yang tidak bertanggong­ Kerajaan ini bukan-lah kerana takut jawab dalam negara kita ini. Sekian, untok menghadapi parti2 lawan saperti Tuan Yang di-Pertua. yang di-da'awa oleh pehak parti' pembangkang di-dalam pilehanraya Tuan Haji Abu Dakar bin Hammb: kechil. tetapi yang menjadi asas Tuan Yang di-Pertua .... pertimbangan buat Kerajaan ia-lah mengelakkan dari membazirkan wang Tuan Yang di-Pertua: Yang Berhor­ ra'ayat. pilehanraya kechil menelan mat sudah berchakap tadi fasal menentang bukan? belanja yang besar, Tuan Yang di­ Pertua. Mengelakkan dari menyusah­ Tuan Musa bin Hilam (Sepmat kan ra'ayat sa-lain daripada Utara): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya pindaan ini mernpakan satu usaha sa-betul-nya telah mendengar akan menahan daripada puak2 yang tidak uchapan2 dan hujjah2 yang telah di­ bertanggong-jawab dari menyalah beri oleh rakan' saya di-sabelah sana 3133 14 JANUARI 1969 3134 yang saya sentiasa memandang tinggi baik-lah kita balek kapada maksud, atas pengetahuan mereka dan ke­ tujuan dan asas yang di-kemukakan bolehan mereka, terutama sa-kali oleh pehak kita alas apa-kah sebab2- di-dalam sa-suatu perbahathan ber­ nya maka mustahak kita meminda hubong dengan Perlembagaan. Tetapi, Perlembagaan ini. Dan apabila kita Tuan Yang di-Pertua, pada hari ini hendak membinchangkan soal ini saya saya sendiri sangat2 terkeliru terutan1a fikir harus kita tegaskan sa-kali lagi sa-kali apabila saya mendengar hujjah2 bahawa di-dalam Perlembagaan kita yang di-buat oleh dua orang daripada perinsip2 demokerasi terang ada tertulis. parti Pembangkan kedua2-nya daripada Perinsip demokerasi ini ia-lah bahawa satu parti politik ia-itu Ahli Yang Perlembagaan Malaysia yang ada Berhormat dari Tanjong dan Ahli di-dalam negara kita ini boleh di­ Yang Berhormat dari Batu. Nampak­ pinda-boleh di-pinda-boleh di-pinda nya parti yang di-wakili oleh mereka juga berasaskan kapada keperchayaan sendiri tidak mendapat faham dengan kita bahawa Perlembagaan yang di­ bagitu terang atau pun tidak sa-betul2- tulis dan dengan pengalaman yang nya dapat membuat tentangan yang satu baharu sahaja kita dapat semenjak suara oleh sebab dalam fahaman saya 11 tahun kita merdeka, mungkin dan rakan2 saya juga pada mula-nya terdapat di-dalam-nya beberapa per­ apabila di-beritahu dan di-terJngkan kara dan beberapa soal yang tidak kapada ra'ayat bahawa Kerajaan dapat di-laksanakan dengan sempurna, Perikatan berchadang hendak me­ walau apa pun yang di-katakan oleh minda Perlcmbagaan kita di-dalam pehak parti Pembangkang, kita 1'arus ha! ini, kita telah mendapat sambutan menegaskan juga dan harus sedar yang baik daripada sa-orang daripada bahawa yang mustahak-nya di-dalam ketua yang terkemuka di-dalam Parti Perlembagaan ini ia-lah bahawa Gerakan. Sa-lepas itu di-dalam Dewan sa-kira-nya kita hendak mengshorkan ini kita mendengar pula Ahli Yang atau pun menchadangkan pindaan Berhormat dari Tanjong berdiri meng­ di-dalam Perlembagaan kita ini. maka ambil pendirian yang bagitu tegas chadangan ini hendak-lah di-sokong mengatakan bahawa dia tidak ber­ oleh 2/3 daripada Ahli' Yang Berhor­ setuju sama sa-kaJi dan menentang mat di-dalam Dewan Ra'avat" ini. Jni akan usu! yang kita sedang binchang­ safeguard. Jadi tidak timbul soal kan pada hari ini. Lepas itu pula sa-kira-nya kita tidak dapat 2/3 bangun sa-orang lagi yang terkemuka majority di-dalam pilehanraya akan daripada Parti Gerakan juga ia-itu datang-tidak timbul-kalau kita tidak Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Batu yang ada 2/3 majority. pindaan tidak akan mengatakan pula sa-betul-nya asas­ dapat di-jalankan, dan mengikut asas penentangan parti-nya ia-1ah rekod2 kita sa-lama 10 tahun ini kita bahawa Kerajaan telah tidak dapat meminda akan Perlembagaan ini apa­ memberi masa yang bagitu panjang bila di-fikirkan ini sangat2 mustahak untok mereka balek ka-kampong dan penting. mereka bertanya kapada ra•ayat sama Berbalek kapada asas sebab-nya ada ra'ayat bersetuju atau tidak alas kita hendak meminda Perlen1ba('.aan pindaan Rang Undang2 ini. Ta' tahu­ kita telah di-sebutkan oleh Ahli Yane lah saya agak-nya oleh scbab parti Berhormat dari Jpoh tadi bahawa kita yang di-wakili oleh Ahli' Yang Ber­ harus mengkaji apa-kah sebab-nya hormat itu telah mendapat penga­ Parti Buroh keluar beramai:: dan laman2 yang pahit di-dalam beberapa memulau i.Jkan pilehanraya kechil pilehanraya kechil. terutama sa-kali dan pilehanraya umum. Kata-nya pilehanraya kechil yang baharn sahaja ia-lah bahawa Parti Buroh tidak pec­ di-adakan di-Selangor, mereka nampak­ chaya lagi bahawa di-dala1n ncgara nya terkeliru sendiri dan tidak dapat kita ini ada demokerasi. Saya perchaya mengambil pendirian yang bagitu pehak Pembangkang tidak ber,etuju tegas. dengan mercka oleh sebab itu-lah Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya fikir apa­ n1ereka maseh ada di-dalan1 tempat bila kita membinchangkan chadangan masing2. Ini sangat menggalakkan. yang di-hadapan kita pada hari ini Tetapi harus kita kaji pula dengan 3135 14 JANUARI 1969 3136 sa-berapa dalam akan sebab sa-benar­ terpulang-lah kapada ra'ayat sendiri nya maka parti Buroh telah mengambil menentukan-nya. Dan pada pendapat tindakan baharu2 ini. Kita kaji sa­ saya, demokerasi dan kebebasan telah benar-nya yang Parti Buroh Malaya di-beri kapada Parti Buroh Malaya yang Ahli Yang Berhormat dari supaya menunjokkan kebolehan Batu agak-nya lebeh kenal dekat mereka bertanding di-dalam pilehan­ Parti Buroh Malaya telah di-ketahui raya-sa-orang daripada-nya sendiri dan ada penunjok2-nya bahawa parti di-pileh dahulu-sekarang tidak ada­ ini ada hubongan yang bagitu rapat belum tahu lagi. dengan Parti Kominis Malaya. Parti Kominis Malaya yang ada di-dalam Jadi kebebasan sudah di-beri tidak negara kita ini pula ada hubongan rapat dapat jalan, buntu jalan, ah! ka­ dengan Parti Kominis di-negeri China, tepikan demokerasi, mari kita tukar dan Parti Kominis di-negeri China tektik kita dan mengikut arahan yang maseh memegang kapada teori Maoist, di-beri melalui Parti Kominis Malaya teori Marxist dan Leninist yang tegas sa-bagaimana tertera dalam Kertas berkata di-dalam bahasa Inggeris Puteh yang di-bentangkan oleh Kera­ mithal-nya saya menyebut : "Expe­ jaan baharu2 ini. Arahan-nya ia-lah rience has proved that 'political power kapada Parti Kominis Malaya dan grows out of the barrel of a gun• and parti2 United Front supaya tiapl sa­ 'without a people's army the people orang daripada ahli Parti Buroh, have nothing' are great unshakable tiapl sa-orang yang perchaya dan ada truths ...Jadi mereka sa-betul-nya hubongan rapat dengan Parti Kominis pada mula2-nya lagi Parti Buroh tidak Malaya ini harus-lah, mesti-lah, keluar perchaya kapada dasar dan asas2 dan memulaukan pilehan2raya kechil demokerasi yang tertera di-dalam Per­ atau pun pilehan2raya umum. ini lembagaan kita-pada mula-nya­ juga terang di-sebutkan di-dalam tetapi memang menjadi satu tektik Kertas Puteh yang di-bentangkan oleh kapada anasir2 kominis di-dalam Kerajaan. negeri ini atau pun di-mana2 juga Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya tidak negara di-dalam dunia ini ..... dapat nampak sa-betul-nya apa-kah sebab2 yang bagitu tegas yang dapat Twm D. R. Seeniva.. pm: Mr di-terima oleh kita di-dalam hujjah2 Speaker. Sir. on a point of clarification. yang di-beri oleh pehak Pembangkang. Is it Chairman Mao or someone else? Ada yang di-sebutkan tadi oleh Ahli I do not know? Can he clarify whether Yang Berhormat dari Tanjong-kalau it is Chairman Mao or someone else? tidak salah saya-yang mengatakan bahawa dengan Pindaan Perlembagaan Tuan M- bin Hi-: It is Chair­ ini benna'ana bahawa ra'ayat akan man Mao. Mr Speaker, Sir. Pada mula­ tidak dapat peluang untok "to exer­ nya saperti saya kata tadi kalau kita cise their rights" di-dalam bahasa lihat di-dalam pergerakan kominis di­ Inggeris-nya-"their democratic rights" seluroh dunia, satu daripada senjata untok menggunakan kebebasan demo­ yang sangat berguna kapada mereka kerasi-mereka menunjokkan sama ada untok mendapat kuasa di-dalam sa­ mereka maseh menerima Parti suatu negara yang berdasarkan Perikatan sa-bagai parti peme- demokerasi ia-lah demokerasi sendiri. rentah atau tidak. Ada juga di-sebutkan Ini-lah satu paradox, kata orang, di­ bagaimana pilehan2raya di-dalam hadapi oleh negara2 yang berdasarkan Majlis Bandaran, Majlis Tempatan demokerasi. Kita menganuti demo­ telah tidak dapat di-jalankan dan kerasi, orang yang anti-demokerasi ra'ayat tidak ada peluang langsong menggunakan demokerasi supaya untok menunjokkan bagaimana mereka demokerasi m1 dapat di-hapuskan telah bosan, konon-nya ka-atas parti untok kepentingan mereka sendiri. Perikatan. Jadi, sama ada anchaman yang kita hadapi atau pun lain2 yang di-ambil Saya berpendapat bahawa sa-betul­ oleh parti Pembangkang itu untok nya semenjak pilehanraya umum kepentingan demokerasi atr.u tidak. yang telah di-adakan pada tahun 3137 14 JANUARI 1969 3138

1964 ra'ayat telah bcberapa kali di­ bangga olch sebab kekalahan2 kami beri pcluang untok menunjokkan. sa-makin kcchil. indications. sa-kurang1-nya alas sama ada mercka menyokong kami atau Tuan Yang di-Pcrtua. ini-lah tidak. Di-mana '/ Di-dalam pilehan2 hujjah2 nampak-nya tidak ada soko­ raya kechil yang tclah di-adakan di­ ngan Jaripada Parti PAS hujjah2 scluroh ncgara kita Jari n1asa ka­ yang lclah di-bcri olch pchak Pcm­ scn1asa. Sa-bctul-nya tiJak bcrhcnti1 bangkang di-dalam pcrJchatan kita di-adakan pilehan raya kcchil di­ pada hari ini. Jadi saya sangat-lah dalam tiga cmpat tahun yang lcpas. scJar hahawa parti Pcrnhangkang Kalau kila ambil pilehan2 raya kcchil liap2 kali kita hendak mcnycbutkan di-dalam dua tiga lahun yang lcpas hahawa kita hcndak 1nen1inda Pcrlen1- mithal-nya, pilchan raya kcchil di­ bagaan kita. n1cn:ka bangun n1enyata­ Kampong Bahru, Parti Tindakan kan kita tidak langsong mcnghormati Pcrlcmhagaan kita. tctapi yang n1us­ Ra'ayat n1enaroh orang kuat-nya -­ kalah, mcnang parli Perikatan. Pilchan tahak di-dala111 sa-suatu Pcrlcn1bagaan raya kcchil di-Tampoi. Parti Tindakan untok sa-suatu parti politik di-dalam Ra'ayat bcrtanding dcngan kita mcna­ dcrnokrasi hcndak n1ch1.ksanakan tang­ roh orang kuat-nya juga n1clawan gong-jav.:ah yang di-bcrikan oll.!h kita-kalah ! ra'ayat ia-lah apa yang di-scbutkan olch /\hli Yang Bcrhormat dari Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Untok pcn­ Bungsar tadi ia-itu. yang n1ustahak jelasan. Tuan Yang Ji-Pertua. ada­ di-dalan1 Pi.::rlcn1hagaan ia-lah"' sanc.:ily. kah di-sini Parti Tindakan Ra'ayat workability dan inviolability". yang atau Parti Tindakan Demokralik'I muslahak ia-lah "workability" juga. Kalau l1dak bolch jalan kila harus Tuan Musa bin Hitam: Tuan Yang tukar. ada scgala ayat2 di-dalam Pcr­

saya menunggu2 yang lebeh terang lagi enam bulan itu, mata bulan boleh juga daripada Ahli Yang Berhormat yang kalau di-kira satu bulan itu 30 hari- baharu, Jagi lebeh gelap pula. Mereka 180 hari boleh juga. Kalau kita niat ini sa-olah2 saya tadi hendak meminta bahawa pilehan raya kecbil itu jangan Tuan Yang di-Pertua peluang hendak di-adakan, sebab kita tidak mabu berchakap saya ingat orang2 ini sudah menyusahkan ra'ayat kita sebut per­ menggulong perbahathan, rupa2-nya kam enam bulan, apa kata Tuan Yang tidak lagi. Jadi ini-lah yang menye­ di-Pertua, kalau ada satu pehak dia babkan saya bangun hendak meminta hendak circumvent the letter of the law penjelasan pada Kerajaan supaya mithal-nya dia letak 14 hari sa-belum Kerajaan menerangkan apa-kah yang daripada hari 6 bulan itu. Jadi semata2 di-chakapkan oleh back benchers itu kita boleh melarikan diri daripada betul-kah dengan apa yang di-kehen­ law yang enam bulan itu, tidak ada daki oleh Kerajaan. bedza dengan dua minggu sa­ belum daripada 6 bulan itu. Jadi saya Tuan Yang di-Pertua. pada dasar­ pun tak mengerti kadang2 dengan nya meminda satu2 Perlembagaan ini Menteri' kita ini chara hendak bukan-lah perkara tidak baik; di­ melarikan daripada undang2 itu saya mana pun Perlembagaan itu di-pinda tidak faham. Kalau saya tidak betul dan masa di-pinda itu terkadang2-nya Tuan Yang di-Pertua boleh. kita nampak sendiri belum perkara yang tidak elok itu kalau kita itu Tuan Yang di-Pertua: Barangkali cherdek , tetapi Kerajaan Perikatan ini fylenteri' pun tak mengerti Ahli . . . .. dia tidak bodoh, tetapi dia tidak nampak bahawa clause ini patut di­ Tuan Haji Abu Dakar bin Hamzah: pinda sa-hingga perbuatan Parti Buroh Saya bersimpati dengan Kerajaan ini berlaku baharu dia sedar. Jadi bahawa mengadakan pilehanraya dalam rupa-nya Kerajaan Perikataan mt masa yang suntok dan masa itu kita hendak kena ada satu benda2 yang menjelang pilehanraya umum kira2-nya besar bagitu baharu dia boleh faham. menyusahkan ra'ayat. Saya simpati Dengan sa-chara di-pandang jauh dia dengan Kerajaan supaya tidak di­ tidak nampak, jadi terantok kaki, dia adakan pilehan raya, tetapi membuat terkejut, ah ! baharu dia nampak. Jadi undang2 chara yang sa-macham ini ini neracha yang cherdek atau pun yang ada loophole yang boleh di-buat tidak eherdek-nya Kerajaan Perikatan. pula balck kapada satu masa yang lain Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini penera­ sa-kali lagi pula hendak di-pinda. ngan-statement, penerangan yang di­ Apa-kah kalau sakira-nya lepas ke­ beri ini semata2 penerangan kapada jadian ini kita hendak menghadapi pindaan Perlembagaan, tetapi sebab2 pilehanraya pula oleh kerana law kita kata dalam masa enam bulan orang mengapa Kerajaan terpaksa meminda 14 tidak di-beri oleh Kerajaan. Yang kita meletakkan jawatan itu hari sa­ belum daripada law enam bulan. kita nampak ia-lah berikutan dengan per­ ubah pula pindaan itu. Jika tidak, letakan jawatan daripada Parti Buroh boleh jadi Kerajaan kata tidak, Tuan atau pun beberapa parti dalam masa Yang di-Pertua. lni saya punya pen­ yang tentu dekat dengan pilehanraya dapat dan Kerajaan tidak boleh tolak atau pun dalam masa enam bulan. pendapat saya bagitu sahaja. Kalau ini-lah, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, menjadi sebab, kalau ini-lah yang Tuan Yang di-Pertua. saya ini-lah menjadi sebab-nya. maka Kerajaan penghabisan sa-kali saya hendak ber­ mesti meminda, saya rasa tidak-lah chakap, tak ada meshuarat lain dari­ mesti di-buat dengan chara ini, tidak pada ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Dan mesti di-buat dengan chara ini. kalau ada pilehanraya pun boleh jadi Mithal-nya enam bulan. perkataan Menteri2 tak menang. saya tak jumpa "enam bulan" itu pun, Tuan Yang di­ dan saya pun boleh jadi tak menang. Pertua, dari segi undang2-nya saya tak jumpa juga dan kalau saya tertarek sangat dengan Menteri Peng­ menang pun barangkali orang tak angkutan fasal undang2 ini, Perkataan lantek saya, ta' jumpa juga. (Ketawa). 3141 14 JANUARI 1969 3142

Jadi saya minta Kcrajaan bagini-lah : mengatakan pinJaan Pcr]cmbagaan ini bertolak ansor ia-itu tarikh 6 bulan tidak patut di-adakan. Saya ra sa dalam itu bukan-lah tarikh daripada perleta­ hati Ahli' Pembangkang scndiri pun kan jawatan ia-itu tarikh 6 bulan ini mcngakui hahawa perkara ini patut ia-lah tarikh daripada hari mcngundi. di-adakan mcmandang kapada hampir­ Jadi erti-nya kalau dia menang mithal­ nya masa pilehanraya. nya kita katakan dia hari mengundi 30 Saya mcrasa bahawa motif yang haribulan Ogos, maka ka-hadapan itu bcsar dari bangkangan Ahli' Pem­ 6 bulan, jadi kita kira daripada hari hangkang kapada pindaan Pcrlem­ dia di-ishtiharkan kalah mcnang itu di· hagaan ini ia-lah scmata2 suatu election bawa ka-hadapan cnam bulan. sa· stunt sahaja. suatu hclah hendak mc­ bclum daripada itu kita ta'kira. narck panJangan ra'ayat dalam masa Macham itu saya bolch tcrima, tctapi hampir pilehanraya, pada ha! perkara kalau macham ini juga dia tak dapat ini ada-lah yang baik dan pcrkara di-terima. pula back bencher tadi yang bctul. Saya rasa pula bahawa challangc kata siapa yang hendak bagi pehak Parti D.A.P. dan Parti mcnentang. Memang. Tuan Yang di­ Gerakan patut bcrterima kaseh kapada Pertua, kami dudok di-sini hendak ber­ Kerajaan yang telah mengemukakan tentang, kalau kami takut takkan kami pindaan ini kerana pindaan ini akan dudok 9 lawan 104 di-sini. Jadi saya menyelamatkan Parti D.A.P. dan ter­ minta-lah pehak Kerajaan apa-lah utama sa-kali Parti Gcrakan daripada salah-nya. Tuan Yang di-Pcrtua, yang menghadapi kckalahan yang terok terakhir sa-kali, kalau dapat mcncrima dalam pilehanraya sa-bclum pilehan­ pindaan ini baharu-lah apa yang di­ raya bcsar sa-hagaimana kita saksikan maksudkan olch Ahli Yane Bcrhormat dalam pilchanraya kcchil di-Serdang

Rang Undang2 ini, saya suka hendak Unfortunately. Sir, in our country, menguchapkan terima kaseh terutama there arc people who, although they say sa-kali kapada sahabat dan rakan saya that they support democracy, do not Yang Berhonnat Menteri Kewangan practise democracy. They do not dan juga penyokong2 Perikatan yang believe in democracy and they only telah mcmbcri pandangan dan menyo­ make use of democracy in order to kong Rang Undang2 ini dan telah juga destroy democracy. ln order to deal menjawab hujjah2 yang telah di­ with such people. sometimes we have datangkan daripada Ahli' pehak got to take certain measures which we Pembangkang. ourselves do not like to do. So. in this case. because we arc faced with an Saya suka hcndak mcnjawab teru­ unusual situation, we have to take this tama sa-kali Ahli Yang Berhormat unusual step. dari Bachok, yang sa-benar-nya saya sendiri kurang faham apa yang di­ We had, Sir. considered a number of maksudkan dalam uchapan Ahli Yang alternatives. We could have aUowed the Berhonnat dari Bachok itu. tetapi by-elections to go on for the next few kalau hendak di-tetapkan cnam bulan months. and following the result of the daripada hari mengundi. ini per­ Serdang by-election we could have kara sukar, sebab haribulan yang di­ ridden on to victory. (Applause) We tetapkan oleh undang2 ia-lah haribulan could have won all the by-elections and Dewan Ra'ayat ini di-bubar atau pun. then dissolve Parliament and hold the Parliament stands dissolved; itu sahaja­ General election. We could have taken lah tarikh yang ada dalam Pcrlemba­ that advantage, but we do not want to gaan dan dari tarikh itu-lah kita do that. 1t is not our policy to take gunakan ia-itu enam bulan sa-belum advantage of the Opposition parties. tarikh itu. Jadi di-fikirkan enam bulan We have always given the Opposition itu menasabah-lah, kalau lcbeh dari­ parties ample time, ample notice of pada enam bulan, terpaksa-lah, kita general elections. to give them ample adakan pilehanraya kechil. time to prepare for general elections. Sekarang, Tuan Yang di-Pcrtua. saya Our Prime Minister. the Tunku, has mohon izin hendak berchakap dalam always pledged to give the Opposition bahasa lnggeris. enough time to prepare for elections and we have never taken them by (DenRan izin) Sir. as I said, my surprise. because we want to honour friend and colleague the Minister of that pledge and give them all the time Finance has replied to a number of they need to prepare for the general points raised by Members of the election so that we have a fair fight. As Opposition. I feel, Sir. that Members I said, Sir. if we were to take this undue of the Opposition have not made any advantage, we could have done so. case at aU in opposing this Bill. The main point they put forward was the There are also other suggestions by question of the sanctity of the Constitu­ the Honourable Member for Tanjong tion. We on this side of the House and the Honourable Member for lpoh. have repeatedly given our pledge to The Honourable Member for Tanjong uphold the Constitution, indeed. when suggested that we might have amended J moved the Second Reading of this Article 51 to give power to the Spea­ BiU, 1 made it quite clear that we put ker. to you, Sir, to refuse to accept the up this Amendment to the Constitution resignation of Members. This, Sir. is \•.'ith considerable regret. because it is a most unusual thing to do and I do not our intention to amend the Consti­ not think that it is right and fair to tution unless it is considered absolutely give such power to the Speaker of this necessary in the public interest and in House not to accept the resignation of the interest of the naticm. But we had any Member. If we want to do a to take this measure in order to meet certain thing, we, in the Alliance an unusual situation caused by the would like to do it in the open and resignations of the Labour Party explain to this House and to the Members. country what we intend to do, and we 3145 14 JANUARI 1969 3146

feel that the only way to meet this such as we arc faced now arise. As I unusual situation is to amend Article said. if a �ituation arises where a 54. The Honourable Mcmbe1 for lpoh number of Members resigns and the suggested that we might adopt the Government loses its majority, then measure we adopted by Local Autho­ obviously the Government must call rities, that is to say, to ask the party for a general election. fron1 whon1 the Honourable Members Sir. the Honourable Member for who rcsign come to nominate others Batu has also said that we have not for their places. given thcn1 enough notice. This This. I feel. is undcsirabh: because measure that we decided to take today this House is a fully elected Chamber \1,:as announced by the Tunku about a rcpresentatiye of the people of this month ago and after that I ex plained country. and l do not feel that it is to the Press what our intentions were, right that we should have anyone and I think the people had a clear idea sitting in this House who is not fully of what we intended to do so. We had elected through the democratic process. given sufficient notice and in any case Therefore. we arc left no choice but the An1endmcnt is a minor amendment to amend Article 54 and. as I explained and it does not take away the right just now. we arc not taking a\i,'ay the involved in the Constitution. and we right of having by-election under thc feel that as the matter is urgent, be­ Amended Article 54; we only say that cause Members of the Labour Party six months before Parliament stands have tendered their resignations from dissolved. if casual v:.icancies occur the 1st January. it is necessary to have then there should not be by-elections. this law passed quickly. in order to Of course a situ<.1tion n1ight well arise. avoid the inconvenience of having by­ as explained by Honourable Mi.!n1bcrs clcctions y..rhcn the general election is for lpoh and Tanjong. \\/ here a nun1bcr only a fe'rv rnonths ahead. of Mcn1bcrs n1ight rcsign and the With this explanation. Sir. I would Ciovcrnn1ent might lose its 111ajority. request that this House approve this Under those circun1stancL's, ohviously Bill. (Applause). the Government would have to L'all for a general election. After all. six months Tuan Yang di-Penua: Mcngikut is neither here nor tht.?-rc. and we feel Fasal 159 dalam Perlembagaan. that a matter of six ninnths would not bachaan kali kedua ini hendak-lah n1akc n1uch dilfcrcnt.:c. We have consi­ chara nll�mbcl.ih bahagi. dered all this and we feel that this is the best way of meeting this unusual Usu] di-kcmuka bagi di-putuskan. situation and this An1cndmcnt will Dewan berbelah-bahagi : form p.irt of our Constitution and will rcn1ain a permanent provision of the Yang Bersetuju 113; Yang Tidak Constitution �hould in future situations Bersctuju 3; Yang Tidak Mcngundi. 2.

YANG BERSETUJU

Tun llaji Abdul Ra1ak hin Tuan Hllji Mnhd. Ghuali bi• Tua• Tho•:t!I Kana Dato' Hus�ain Haii Ja1"i Tuan Stanlr)' Ho N)'11• kbiu Tun TaR S� ... Sin rlr "'Ii:: K:1111 roh Tuan Mu�a bin Hitam Tun \'. T. S:i111bantltan rlaln G;inio: (;iloni:: Tuan (,m.. il hi• ld1"i!I Tao Sri Haii Sardon bin llaii t-·ncku Muh�"in bin Abdul Kadir Tuan {'ho:� Rin1" Chuon Jubir l u;m Ll'i!' Siok \' r.,. Tmm Tan T,:ik Yu Tuan Moh1n111l"d Khir Johari Tu;m A1i.t hi11 l.,ltak T11:in H1tii Muh111r11nad Su'aut To11n Bahamiln !Jin S11 .. �udin Tmtn Ahmad hin Ar,lrnd bin ltaji Molt... Tahir Tan Sri Dr Li• S"·l"e Au11 T11an Pein l.o Sn Yin Tuan Haji Olb1111t111 bin Abdullah T11a Sri H11ji Abdul Ha•ill Khan Toan Haji Rl"dza bin Haji Tuan Sulaima• bi• Haji T11ib bin Haji Sakhawat Ali Khan M•�t1d. �aidl Tuan R1nnli bin Om• T11a11 Kha"' K11i-Boh Tu11111 Moha111l"d ldfiii; bill Mal�il Tuan Amackus Mathe,.. Lconii: T•a Sri Temenggoni:: Jui::ah Dain' Haji Hu�sein bill Mohd. ••ak B.:1rie11g Noordi11 Peni::arah 81111y•n11: aoak Janting Toan V. Manirkavas.:agam Wan Al1"i bin Tuanku lbnhim Tua• Mohd. Z.ahir bin Haji Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rahman Ismail Tuan T•judio bin Ali 3147 14 JANUARI 1969 3148

T... lbnlU• Iii• AWal Toaa Gaaia1 bhl Jaa1klll Tua• Haji Aw.IGllaal bbl Ra•••• hllak Ta•• Mobd. Tahir II&. AW.I Taaa Lee Saa Choo• Majid Dr Mollamed bla Talb Ta- Ali bim H•ji All•.. Raja Rome bia Raja Ma'•••r Tuaa Salai•aa bia Baloa Ta- CHa Wiil1 S.• Ta•• Quck Ital Doa1 Ta•• Haji Moklit• ... Hali Ismail Ta• Dr 11•.U ltla Dalo' Haii Taaa Sio" Looa11 Hin AbdlilRU... a Tu1n Haji MoW. Ya1of •• Waa MoU.1111' hia Ahmad Mall•ad Taa Dala Mu.Upb.I Dala bia Toan Soll Ah Teck Hana Toan Ltt Seek Fan Taa11 Tiaill Eng llee T- Sri ff•li•li F•li••ll billti Taaa N1 Fall Ya• Hajl Ha1lli• Taaa Abdal Rezak bl• H1ji Taaa C••n CM>a1 Haui• w­ Dlll:ill Hajjalt F.. imall biatl Haji Toan Sta• Tn11 NKl•b AWal Majid Tuaa C•a11 Sia•� Sun Toan S. Fiu:ul Rah••• Tu Sri SyN Ja'.tu bia H•Ja• Tuan Tan Kee Gak Al>w Taaa Fraaeil Ciiia N1al. T•I Tuan Cbin Foo• Dato' Haji Mastafa Haji Taa• MoW. Arif W. Ta•• Haji R•ll•at bia Haji Salld1 Abduil l•blll' Daud Tuan Yeh Pao Tie Dato' Lia1 -a-1 Sinr Dato• Dr Haji Me11:at Khas Toi• D. A. D.. o aaak Raad•• ltbi ..... Ta1111 Haa•k Hnuia Dr A,..u11 bin Hau• aliru Datok a--. Dalo' Ab•olbb bin AWal• Tuia Hali T1111• Raf•I "-clwta Sallll•a •&a All ,..__ Tan Sri Haji Nik Allmad Xa•il Taaa Hoaela bi• Salalm•a Tau CU• Seo•1 Yooa Y.A.M. Tualu1 Ab411Dall illai Taaa 0th••• b.. AWalall Dr Mabalhir bi• Moba•ad Al.. r••• Tuaaku AINlal Taaa lOM•• Dawid Maa)lljl Taaa Toll nea• Hoek Rall•an Toa• Joo1t11i... Bupa ••ak Tuan Toll HOii& Ta•• Haji ff••Ull bill Ab•I Tan Renan11: Ta•• Ta• Cbea11 lltt Taa• Haji bkarili bi• lbji T••• c•ia Ciiia Slli• MoW. Tdt Tuan Geb Chon1 Keat Taan Tai Ku1n Yaa11 Taaa Ha)i All••• bia Sa'aW Tuan T. Mallima Sia111 Tuaa Li• PH Hua1 Tau Srma"i 1'in h•ail Toan Abdal Kari• bi• Abo Pen11hula Ji•1111ut ••• Altaa Toaa H•ii Abtilol iiilRasll bin Wa11 AINlal Rahman bbl Dato• Haii Jail Taaaku Bajan1 T••• Snlil: Chia Joo Taaa C. Jolla Oncla Mm;.t..il Wa• Abdal K ..ir bi• h•ail Taan HBWa him AINlalall Pca1in• Talair P�n Dalo' Syed Eu bl• Ah'ee Toa• Haaall bia MoW. Ya•u

YANG TIDAK BERSETUJU

Taaa C. V. lk•a• Nair Dr Taa Chff Kbooa

YANG TIDAK MENGUNDI

Taaa Haji AH ...... Ilia Taaa Haji HaS!lain Ralli•i bin Ha•:r:all Haji Samaa

Rang Undang2 di-bachakan kali yang kadang2 lebch, kadang2 botch jadi ter­ kedua dan di-serahkan kapada Dewan lckas dua hari pun. botch juga di- ... sa-bagai Jawatan-kuasa. Toan Yang di-Pertua: Ini di-katakan Dewan bersidang sa-bagai Jawatan­ "frivolous amendment". Main2 tidak kuasa. boleh.

Rang Undang' di-timbangkan dalam Fasal I hingl!a 4 di-pcrentahkan Jawatan-kuasa. menjadi sa-bahagian daripada Rang Undang2• (Tuan Yang di-Pertua memfJengerusikan Jawatan-kuasa) Dewtuz bersitlang sa-1111,Ja.

Fasal I hingga 4- Ba<"baan Kiili Ketip Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah: Ton Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang Tuan Pengcrusi, saya meminta sadikit di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan sahaja kalau Kcrajaan bersotuju ia-itu bahawa Rang Undang2 ini di-bacha perkataan "six months" ini di-gantikan kali yang ketiga dan di-luluskan. di-bawah clause 2 proviso itu ia-itu perkataan "six months" barisan yang Tun Tan Siew Sin: Tuan Yang di­ kedua dan ketiga itu di-gantikan de­ Pertua, saya mohon menyokong. ngao "180 days". Tuan Pengerusi, alasan saya bagini, sebab 6 bulan ini Usul di-kemuka bagi di-putuskan., terkadang2-nya bulan itu sadikit. dan di-setujukan. 3149 14 JANUARI 1969 3150

Dewan berbclah-bahagi :

Yang Bersetuju IJ3; Yang Tidak Bersetuju 3; Yang Tidak Mengundi 2.

YANG BERSETUJU

Tun Haji Abdul R.111:11k hin Toan Ibrahim bin Abllul Dato' Dr Haji Mt11:at Kbwi Dato' Huuain R:11h•11a Dr A"aa.i: bia Hau11n Tun T11n Sie,.. Sin Tuan Ler San Chuon Tu•n R1thtl Am:htta Tu• V. T. Samb••t•an Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad Tan Sri llaji Nik Ah1111ad Kamil Ta• Sri llaji Sardon hin llaji Tuan Chtn Wini: Sum Y.A.MI. Tu•l..u AbiAuHah ilini J11bir Tun Dr Ismail bin D11tu' llaji Al11111rhu• Tunnku Abdul Tu•.11 Mo•amrcl IU1ir Johari Ai.dul R:11bm11n R•lllman Tuan 811.baman bin S1tlll!l11din Tua Datu Mustapha bi11 Dah1 Tuan T11n Toh JIOlllf Harun T111n Sri Dr Um Swee Aun Tu11n Tan Chrng llt'e Tan Sri Hajjoh l-':iti•11lo biati Taa Sri H.111ji Abdlll H1uoid Khan Tuan Gclt Chong Ke:il H11ji llatihim bl• H•ji Sakh11w11t Ali Kltau Tuan T. Mahi11111 Sina:h Dalin ff•jjah Fathnah binti llaji Tuan Khaw Kai-Roh Abllul M11jid Tuan Abdul Karim Lia Abu Tim Sri Te11u:11111icu1111: Jo11:11ll Tan Sri Syrd Ja'11far bin H:.�nn "·an Abdul Rah•an bin Datu' aaak Raric:at: Alb:ir Tuanku lluja11g Tuan V, M1niekava�1111:am D:.itu' H111ji '\otusl;,ifa bin Jhji "'an Abdul Kadir bin bmail Tuan Sra11 bin Abllul Ralua:1a Ab*il Jabar Dato' Syed •:�a bin Ah,.·re Tuan Haji Mohd. Glu1rali bin Dato' Lia2 BtnJ!: Sit1' Tuan H;iji Ahdlll Ghani bin Haji Jawi Tua• H11naBah hia Ha<1sai11 hh.ak Dr NK Kam Pob D11to" AbduHab bia Abdul­ Dr Moha•rd bin Taib Data Ganie GilD•ll? rall•an Tu::in Sulai•11n bia llulon Stunl:" Eagku Mahseia bin A bclol Kadir T1111n Ct.an Yoon Tuan Haji Mokbl11r bin Haji T1111111 Ltt Siok Yew Dr M11h.1thir bin Muh:uaod l�mail Tua• Ariz bin hhak Tuan Toh Tht11111 Hock Tu11n Hajj Mohd. Ya�of bin M111bmull Toan Alllmad bi• Anllad Tuan Haji Ham1ah bin Ala•11: Tuan Let Srck J.'ua Tuai:i Peter Lo Su l'in T111tn Haji Zal.aria bin H11ji Mohd. Taib Tuan NI Fall Y1 111 Tuan Haji Red.1a bin Hajj Mohd. Sai• Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Sa'aid Tuan Clian Cho1111 Wea Tuan Mohamed Idris bia M:alsil Tuan Scnawi bin Ismail Tuan Stah Tear: Ni;ub Dalo' Haji lloss.rln bin Mflhd. Tuan Hajj Abdul Rashid bin Tuan S. Fazul R11hm11a Noordia Haji Jais Tu11n Jo' raueili Ciiia Nyuk Toni:

Tuan Mohd. 1...ahir bin H11ji Tuan C. Juba Ondu Majakil Tu11a Mohd. Arif S11lleh h•ail Penj!iran Tahir Petra Tu11n Yeh P11u T;re Tuan Tlllomas Kaaa Tu11n G11nini:: bin Janr:kal Toa• D. A. Daii:o an;ak Randan Tuan Stanley Ho Nyun Khiu Tua• Mohd, Tahir bin Abllul alir1' Dagok anak Rundl'R Taa• Mu�a bin Hitam Maj ill Tuan Haji Sul::iiman hia Ali Taan bmail bin ldri� Raja Ru111e loin Raja Ma':l•ur Tuan Hu�..rin bin Subiman

Tuan Clocw Biow Clouon Tuan Qutk Kai Donr: Tuan Olh•:1• bia Abllullah T••• Ta11 Tsak Yu Tuan Sio1' Loonlf Hin Tuan Jo11eph Datid Manj11ji W•o Moklitar bin Ahm.all Taaa Haji Muhammad Su'aut Taan Jonafhun lloniaU anak bill HajiMohd. Tatiir Tuan Soll Ati Ttek Rtnanr:

Tu1111 H11ji Othman bin Abd11ll11h T11an Tiah l!°:nl! 8ft Tu11n Chia Chin Shi•

Taaa Sul"-11111111 bin Haji Taib Tua• Abdul Raz11k bin Haji Tu11n Toi Kuan Yang Hu�ai• Tu•• Ramli bin Omar To11• Lim Pre Hun11: Tuan Chan Sinni: Sun Tuan A••us Matlirw Leoa2 Ptni::hulu Jin.i:r:ul anak Allan Tuan Ta .. Xee Gak Pra211rali Baayan2 aaak J11nti11g T1111n Sag Chia Joo Toa• Chi11 1-'oo• Wa• Alwi bin Tu1111ku Ibrahim Tu111n Hamn bin Abdullah Tu11n Hajj Rahm.at bin Haji Tuan Taj11di11 bin Ali Dau .. Tuan H:.111:16 bin Mohd. Yunus

Y·\N(i TID·\K BLRSErlJJU

Taan C. V. Del'lln Nair Dr Tan Chee Khoon Dr l.im Chon!! t'.u

YANG Tir>AK Ml·N(illNDI

Tuaa Haji Aha Bnknr bin Tua• H11ji Hu�\ain Rahimi bin Ha•:i:•h H:iji Saman

Rang Un

Tuan Yang di-Pertua: Mcshuarat di-tcmpohkan hingga pukul 4.00 pctang hari ini.

Persidangan di-tanggoli kan pada puk.u/ I /t'llgah hari. 3151 14 JANUARI 1969 3152

Persidangan di-sambong sa-mu/a perusahaan, khas-nya berkenaan de­ pada pukul 4.00 petang. ngan perusahaan2 yang besar2. Saya sangat tertarek hati di-atas ranchangan (fuan Yang di-Pertua mempenger11sikan MARA mengadakan perusahaan besar, Meshuaral) ia-itu perusahaan kayu balak dan peru· sahaan berkongsi membuat basikal. RANG UNDANG2 PERBEKALAN, 1969 Saya ingin-lah mcnarek perhatian Radian Kali Yanx Ketlua dan Ketiaa pehak MARA supaya jikalau boleh ada kemungkinan mcngadakan satu Perbahathan di-sambong sa-mula. pcrusahaan yang bclum lagi di-laksana­ Tuan Haji Ahmad Sa'aid (Seberang kan. ia-itu menternak binatang2 yang Ulara): Tuan Yang di-Pertua. menyam­ mengcluarkan daging ia-itu lembu, bong uchapan saya sa-malam. saya kambing dan kcrbau. lni ada-lah satu ingin menyentoh sadikit berkenaan dc­ pcrusahaan yang bcsar di-ncgara2 ngan pergerakan Persatuan2 Belia yang macham mana Australia yang hasil ada di-negara kita ini. Sunggoh pun kita ncgara-nya bcrgantong banyak kapada dapati ada juga sadikit2 kemajuan, mengcksportkan daging2• Jadi saya ber­ tetapi kemajuan-nya, pada kcselurohan­ harap MARA akan mengkaji kc­ nya, yang kita harap itu. tidak-lah mungkinan mcngadakan ladang men­ memuaskan. Oleh yang demikian saya ternak binatang2 tcrnakan ini dan juga berharap kapada pehak yang ber­ boleh mcngel uarkan daging kapada kenaan. ia-itu Menteri, supaya mcng­ pasar2 yang n1ana anak bumiputra kaji sa-mula dasar persatuan belia ini. scndiri menjadi pcnjual daging' ini dan Kalau boleh, di-adakan chuma satu yang memakan daging2 ini. Saya per­ sahaja persatuan belia yang di­ chaya dengan ada-nya satu usaha men­ anjorkan oleh Kerajaan atau pehak ternak sa-chara bcsar2an dengan men­ Kementerian dan di-salorkan segala dapatkan tanah yang bagitu luas 10 bantuan melalui persatuan ini, dengan ribu ekar. mithal-nya, atau pun 5 ribu mengadakan peringkat Pusat, peringkat ekar. Jadi pada hemah saya tiap2 satu Negeri dan peringkat Chawangan. ekar boleh kita ternakkan sa-ekor Pada masa sekarang ini chuma di­ lembu atau kcrbau, jikalau 1.000 ekar adakan gabongan daripada Persatuan kita boleh ternakkan 1,000 ckor. Jadi Belia yang tcrtabor di-dalam negara ini akan mcnambahkan lagi mata kita ini; denga n atoran yang sa· pcncharian bumiputra dan dengan macham ini sangat-lah susah hendak chara sharikat2 kcrjasama atau dengan menjalankan satu2 ranchangan bagi chara company atau pun dengan chara kebaikan belia2 dalam negara kita ini. apa juga, biar-lah MARA menjadi sa­ Saya berharap kapada pehak Menteri bagai pclupor dcngan mengeluarkan mengkajikan perkara ini untok mem­ modal dahulu. jikalau bolch, atau pun perbaiki lagi perjalanan Persatuan saham2 MARA itu di-tanamkan dalam Belia ini dan jikalau boleh men­ perusahaan yang sa-marham ini. chantumkan Persatuan2 Pertolongan Yang kedua. berkenaan dengan peru­ Chemas ia-itu badan sukarela St. John, sahaan hotel. Belum lagi ada bumi­ Pasokan Palang Merah di-dalam satu putra berusaha di-atas pcrkara ini, badan yang mana boleh kita berjalan dengan lebeh baik lagi. saya harap MARA akan mcngkaji kemungkinan mcngadakan sa-buah Saya ingin juga menycntoh bcr­ hotel bumiputra jcnis Melayu tulin kenaan dengan peranan MARA. dalam mana saya maksudkan segala Sekarang boleh-lah kita dapati bahawa masakan2. segala hidangan. layanan ia­ pehak MARA dcngan daya usaha-nya lah mengik ut adat rcsam orang2 telah pun menjalankan bebcrapa Melayu dan hiboran2 di-adakan di-hotel ranchangan yang mendatangkan faedah ini: dcngan chara yang sa-macham ini kapada bumiputra dan di-harapkan dapat mcnarek pelanchong2 yang banyak lagi ranchangan2 yang boleh mclawat ncgara klta ini mcnckmati menunjokkan kapada bumiputra untok makanan2 orang Mclayu yang enak menjalankan urusan pcrniagaan dan dan scdap itu dan layanan' daripada 3153 14 JANUARI 1969 3154 orang' Melayu dengan chara sangat lupa. tiap2 kali ada meshuarat. Tuan lemah lembut. saya perchaya akan ber­ Yang di-Pertua mengadakan jamuan jaya. jika kita adakan hotel jenis kapada Ahli' Dewan Ra'ayat, wang Melayu tulin di-Kuala Lumpur ini di­ daripada claun jamuan itu di-belanja­ mulakan dahulu. kan atau di-kendurikan kapada tiap' Ahli Dewan Ra'ayat. lni ada-lah satu Lagi satu perusahaan yang belum perbuatan yang kami berdo'a-lah sa­ lagi MARA mengambil bahagian sa­ muga Tuan Yang di-Pertua dan chara besar2an ia-lah pengangkutan Timbalan Yang di-Pertua di-chuchuri dengan Jori. Saya berharap-lah pehak rahmat dan juga selamat. MARA akan meminta beberapa permit daripada Menteri Pengangkutan supaya Dan saya ingin-lah menarek per­ dapat menjalankan usaha pengangkutan hatian Tuan Yang di-Pertua dan saya daripada bandar ka-bandar dan apa berharap dapat Tuan Timbalan Yang juga permit yang baharu itu mesti-lah di-Pertua sampaikan hajat saya, saya di-untokkan kapada MARA, kerana ingat rakan2 saya pun beri;etuju, kita saya tahu pengangkutan dengan Jori tidak pernah ambil gambar beramai' ini sangat mendatangkan untong besar pada tiap2 Penggal Persidangan kapada pehak' yang mengambil baha­ Parlimen. Jadi, saya berharap-lah gian di-dalam pengangkutan barang2 Tuan Timbalan Yang di-Pertua darat. sampaikan kapada Tuan Yang di­ Pertua tetapkan tarikh pada suatu hari Pada musim Haji yang lalu. Tuan dengan persetujuan Yang Amat Ber­ Yang di-Pertua, banyak bakal' haji hormat Perdana Menteri dan juga dan warith'. keluarga-nya rakan2-nya Menteri2 kita untok mengambil gambar yang menghantar bakal' haji ka-Mek­ beramai2 buat kenang'an bagi Ahli' kah di-pelabohan Pulau Pinang. di-Port Dewan Ra'ayat pada jangka lima tahun Swettenham Pier. Mereka ini tidak puas ini. Saya perchaya tahun 1959 tidak ada hati kerana mendatangkan susah ka­ sa-rupa itu yang mengambil gambar pada mereka itu untok menyeberang beramai2 buat kenang2an kalau pelawat2 ka-Pulau Pinang. Saya berharap-lah daripada luar datang ka-Dewan kita pehak Menteri Pengangkutan akan hendak lihat gambar Ahli' Dewan mengalehkan kapal itu ka-dermaga Ra'ayat daripada tahun 1955 kita tidak dalam Butterworth, sebab dermaga boleh tunjok, kalau tahun 1959 pun dalam ini sudah siap dan sa-kira-nya kita tidak boleh tunjok. Jadi, saya kapal haji rapat ka-dermaga dalam berharap tahun 1969 sa-belum Ahli' Butterworth boleh menyenangkan kita keluar elok sangat-lah di-adakan orang' yang menghantar dan juga satu gambar beramai2 sa-bagai bakal' lagi yang hendak memuatkan chendera-mata, sa-bagai peringatan ka­ barang' mereka itu di-dalam kapal, pada Ahli' Dewan Ra'ayat dan juga tidak payah Iah bawa barang2 itu kapada Tuan Speaker. Sekian sahaja, mcnyeberang laut sa-belah sana dan terima kaseh. dengan ini dapat mcmberi lebeh Tuan C. V. Devan Nair (Bungsar) kemudahan kapada bakal' haji Mr Speaker. Sir. to all dan penumpang2-nya daripada tanah (de11gun izin): intents and purposes, and for good or besar yang say a percha ya 95 % dari­ pada bakal' haji ini ia-lah daripada ill, the Alliance Party will continue to Tanah Besar. provide the Government in this country in the coming crucial years. They can Akhir-nya, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. use their mandate either to lead the saya samal dcngan rakan2 saya meng­ country out of its present bog of uchapkan sa-tinggi2 terima kaseh ka­ stagnation or. alternatively lead it to pada Tuan Yang di-Pertua dan juga perdition. The former would be good Tuan Timbalan Yang di-Pertua yang all round, while the latter possibility telah pun menjalankan urusan sa-bagai would be catastrophic for everybody. Speaker Dewan ini dengan bijaksana­ including the Alliance. But as far as nya dan saya tujukan kapada Yang di­ most intelligent and discerning Malay­ Pertua sendiri. bagi pehak rakan2 sians are concerned, they will confess saya yang barangkali sa-tengah-nya that while they started off with an 3155 14 JANUARI 1969 3156

initial goodwill for the ruling party. haps. becoming more intractable? Then there has nonetheless been a steady assert the contrary. as the Deputy erosion of confidence in the Alliance Prime Minister has recently done, and leadership over the last decade, for at claim that everything is honky-dory nearly every turn the initial goodwill and is under firm control. Is unemploy­ has been frustrated by evidence of ment and under-employment increasing incompetence, political and social at an alarming speed. as recently myopia, and an ostrich-like disregard witnessed by over 2,000 applicants for surrounding realities on the part of queueing up for about 18 vacancies the leadership. And, therefore. the fear in lpoh? Then make the bland claim, of Malaysian national failure incresases on the basis of some very dubious in direct proportion to this growing sample surveys, that the past year has erosion of confidence. seen only a modest increase in the rate of unemployment. Is the security threat This year's Budget speech by the to the national. both internal and Honourable Minister of Finance only external, but particularly internal, serves to accelerate this erosion of basic looming ever larger? Then never mind, confidence. For it proves one thing : sound peevish and petulant against your that this Government seems anxious to Commonwealth partners, and some­ be judged not at the only bar that thing good might turn up in the end. really counts, the bar of history, but merely at the bar of the forthcoming But. Sir, the most basic and funda­ general elections. But. Sir. when all the mental lesson this nation's leadership hubbub and ballyhoo of the hustings must learn, if we are to survive as a have died down. the menacing forces of viable national entity. is this. Nobody, reality must inevitably reassert them­ not even our Commonwealth partners, selves in the shape of basic problems owes us our living or our security. At unsolved, issues fundamental to nation the most they might assist. provided we building in a multi-racial society show some capacity and determination evaded, and social inequities and to help ourselves. The most depend­ iniquities coming home to roost with a able friends of the Malaysian people vengeance-all the necessary conditions are their fellow Malaysians. The un­ for a revolutionary ferment inspired by fortunate situation today. however. is a foreign and anti-Malaysian ideology. that our friends abroad have as little As an exercise in sweeping the dirt clue as our own people about what we under the carpet, this year's Budget propose to do for ourselves, politically. speech was an undoubted masterpiece. socially. economically and security· It has almost become a national pas­ wise. And this Budget serves to under­ time-this sweeping of the dust under line this feeling of inadequacy. For the rug-and with the willing co-opera­ there is a near complete standstill at all tion of the Fourth Estate. Indeed. Sir. levels and in all Ministries and there seems often to be a conspiracy of Departments. and most important of all silence. in which the Fourth Estate is in the matter of defence. We are given either willingly or unwillingly involved. no fresh orientation; no goals and with regard to fundamental. political targets of achievements have been set. and social realities in our national life. Traditionally. a Budget speech is one There is probably a more intense which should set out the policy of the discussion of these matters in the coffee Government. what it sets out to do. shops than in our press. radio or how it proposes to allocate the re­ television. sources of the country to achieve the But coming back to this national stated objectives. and how such alloca­ pastime of sweeping the dust under the tion is expected to achieve the desired rug. What are some of its manifesta­ results. If a Budget speech does not tions? I may be allowed to enumerate satisfy these conditions. it is not a some of them. Budget speech at all, but an Is there anything unpleasant to face? exercresence of woolly-minded futility, Ignore it. Is the racial problem. per- a product of wishful thinking. 3157 14 JANUARI 1969 3158

The irony, Sir, is that the Finance Democratic Action Party are cynical Minister gives over 3! pages of his about the sententious bombast when speech to discussing the solution to the the Treasury boys claim that this world's monetary problems, while the Budget. and I quote from the Finance termites in our own house are steadily Minister's speech. "will set the pace and at work undermining the very founda­ establish a foundation for greater tion of our society however imperfect economic growth". Sir. one may ask it may be. Anyone familiar with what pace can be set by standing still? repons of the World Bank and reports For this is, by and large, a standstill of Bank Negara, would easily detect, budget. In the terms of space tech­ on reading the Finance Minister's nology, to stand still is in fact to be speech this year, the series of plagia­ left behind. And in this world of very risma, staning with the Bank Negara rapid change and growth. we have, as and ending with the Treasury boys. a nation. to run very fast just in order This year's budget speech does not to remain where we are. And God knows that what we urgently require, if tell us, for instance, what are the measures to provide for an alternative we are to solve our major social. when the British pull out. What economic and security problems, is not arrangements are there for an adequate merely to maintain the status quo defence set-up? What arrangements are economically, but to broak through into there for conversion to productive and a new dimension of accelerated profitable use, not generalities, what economic growth and �xpansion. None concrete proposals are there for of the conditions for this accelerated conversion of abandoned or about-to-be expansion have been touched on in this abandoned military installations and key Government speech for the year facilities? When the Australians moved 1969. out from Penang a few years ago to Sir. it is history, and not the coming Butterworth, all Penang got from the general elections. which will deliver the Federal Government were sympathetic ultimate verdict on the leadership noises. Now Malacca faces a similar provided by the Alliance Government problem and all that the Prime Minister in this phase of traumatic transition and can offer is to throw a tantrum when the change which faces not only our Australians and New Zealanders say country but the whole of South-East that they cannot afford Terendak after Asia. And leadership for securing the British leave. There has yet to be a national success must mean leadership single thought, let alone a programme essentially in nation building as the towards finding an alternative and essential unalterable basis of our productive use for Terendak, which will security and survival. As a nation. we generate more employment, or for that should have more than a fighting matter, for any other base installations chance against any internal or even and facilities which the British propose external threat to our security, but only to abandon. if we succeed in laying this fundamental For instance. the huge British Army basis of a common Malaysian nationa­ installation in South Johore serving the lism among our multi racial people. entire British Army transport require­ This sense of Malaysian identity and ments is about to be abandoned. This unity, this sense of belonging and of an ideal developed site might, for equal stake in this country for all instance, be made available for the Malaysians. whatever their race, colour motor industry perhaps and yet there is or creed may be. is the only safe in­ no evidence of any thought at all being surance against the internal Communist given to such use after the British with­ threat or any external menace that may draw. Is it the intention of the Govern­ face us. But it is precisely in regard to ment to allow this developed site to the spiritual mechanics of nation build­ revert back to the jungle? ing that our Government has committed its most grotcquc errors of judgement I hope, Sir. that I have communi­ and of action. We even had the attempt cated why my colleagues and I in the last year. Sir. to legislate patriotism 3159 14 JANUARI 1969 3160 into being. which must have made the a viable. national union. To do this, we very Gods in their heavens weep in must get rid. and quite speedily too, of despair. the economic imbalance between the rural and urban communities, narrow Generally. there have only been the gap between the "haves" and the attemps to repress the symptoms of any "have-nots" of all races. eradicate the social disease, but hardly any educational lag in the sciences and in attempt to get at the root cause of the modern technology, attack the linguistic malady. It must be manifest to anyone and cultural shibboleths, taboos and capable of projecting the possible obscurantisms which stand in the way pitfalls and dangers of our future as of meaningful progress, and stop a people, that the one basic problem, dividing our people into first-class on the solution of which hinges the bumiputras and second-class non­ solution of all other problems is that bumiputras. We have only a few more of nation building. And there are so years in which to grow up as a nation, many things to be done to achieve this, failing which we will find om:�lves and so little time to do them in. facing the rigours of the Sevenlles as All the fairy god-fathers and god­ unprepared for life in the coming mothers whom we have taken for decade as a naked baby left alone on a granted to pick our chestnuts, parti­ glacial expanse. cularly our security chestnuts, out of But there is not one enlightening the fire for us. are to-day manifestly word about all this in this year's and even loudly having second thoughts Budget speech. Instead we have been on their role in this region. The treated to the most tepid generalities British lion has decided to abandon its and to a whole series of fundamental defence commitments in this region evasions and subterfuges. It is a stand· and retire in toothless isolation to its still Budget, for a standstill Malaysia, island cave, there to meet its imperial in what we are tacitly asked to believe death. A nascent mood of isolationism will be a standstill Sou•h-East Asia in a once again grips the American people, standstill world ! This is why the who do not want to get their fingers D.A.P. claims that this is by far the burnt again in Asia trying to fight other most bogus of Malaysian Budgets ever people's wars for them. while the to have been inflicted on the public, Australians are clearly dubious about even by the degenerate standards of an their capacity to deal with the man­ election year. eating piranha fish and sharks and so on swimming in our seas, seas in which Let me now turn to the text of the even the mighty Americans and the Budget speech to vindicate the claims once redoubtable British have decided that I have made. For one thing, in all they have just about had enough. these years as our Finance Minister, this is the first time that the personality It is probably a good thing for of the Finance Minister himself is Malaysia, Sir, in the divine dispensation least in evidence in the Budget speech. of things. that we should at last be obliged to face up to the harsh fact that Listening to him last Thursday, I we have no more any sturdy and could not help feeling with more than dependable arms to lean upon, and that a tinge of regret. that he appears to our survival as a nation depends on our have lost his usual conviction. if not own resources and ingenuity as a his interest. in the Budget which he people. on a resolute self-reliance, and presented. 1 n previous years there was a capacity to adapt and adjust a good deal of arrogance perhaps. successfully to a completely new born out of a determination. however situation in the 1970s. If we face these unfounded. but this year be seems to challenges and overcome them, we have allowed his Treasury officials a survive. If not, we go under. rather freer and therefore more in- competent and even ungrammatical As I said. the most basic problems hand. in the preparation of his Budget is to make our own multi-racial people speech. 3161 14 JANUARI 1969 3162

Sir. 1 have been a severe critic of the this House but appropriating credit Finance Minister in the whole life of for a situation created by forces this Parliament and I have therefore no completely outside his control. fear of being accused of currying his In paragraph 3 of his speech the favour if I say that his speech this year f<�inance Minister referred to the lacks his usual care and attention. The increased public sector expenditure and Finance Minister. Sir. is noted for exports as the main expansionary his attention to such things as a forces in the country in 1968. In the misplaced comma or an incorrect semi­ next breath. he said, and I quote : colon. But this year his Budget Speech is full of loose sentences, and unrelated "After a marked slowing down in 1967, e:\pcnditures by the public sector picked up and uncoordinated thoughts. II strikes significantly last year ...... " one. Sir. as a carelessly strung com­ Sir. if the Finance Minister were true to pendium of a string of reports from his word in using the Budget to various Divisions und�r his control. stimulate or depress the domestic from Bank Negara. the Economic economy, then it is obvious he should Planning Unit of the Prime Minister's have used the Budget of 1967 to Department and various Treasury stimulate the domestic economy. And officials and Treasury institutions. yet in his very words in the Budget As such, it lacks the central drive of a speech we heard last Thursday, and main theme that has characterised the here I quote again : "There was a Finance Minister's Budget speeches in marked slowing down in 1967". previous years. That this should happen al all is indeed a most regrettable thing. Paragraph 4 of the Finance but for this to happen in a very crucial Minister's speech was an attempt to year when our country faces severe show with what appeared to be problems in the diplomatic field, in the pretended modesty that the Malaysian sphere of national sr.;curity and defence, economy did rather well during 1968. in the face of growing mass unemploy­ Many factors were adduced to show ment and in the face of the receding this. One of the factors adduced was growth rate in the industrialised that retail prices which rose in 1967 countries of the world. borders on the remained relatively stable in 1968. The tragic. inclusion of this factor was apparently aimed at giving the impression that the In many cases. a view is contradicted Government was responsible not only by a different one expressed in a for the growth of the economy but also different paragraph. In paragraph 2 of for its efforts in keeping retail prices the Finance Minister's speech he said, stable. However. Sir, I think everyone and I quote : in this House knows that in Malaysia "Sound economic policies, supported hy the key to retail prices lies in the cost a rapid expansion in world trade and a rise of economic activity in the industrial world. of rice, a staple diet with all Malay­ have enabled the country to come out of sians. I think most people in this House this difficult period in better shape than it will remember that in 1967 because of was a year ago." a number of world factors the retail Almost in the same breath, �c claimed price of rice hit a peak of over fifty that his Budget last year was intended cents per katty and that in 1968, again to exert a moderate sustaining influence because of a number of world factors, on the domestic economy and that the the retail price of rice fell below forty results were such as he expected. Now. cents a katty. Thus it appears. a Mr Speaker. Sir. if Malaysia got out of fortuitous fall in the world price of the woods because of a rise in rice is to be a credit to the Financr economic activity in the industrial Ministry. The appropriation of credit world. it would not be fair to claim where it is not due is apparent in yet that it was the Budget of the Govern­ another instance in paragraph 18� ment of the previous year that got the incidentally I have had to number all country to a smoother path. This is a the paragraphs myself--of the Finance case. really. of our Finance Minister Minister"s speech. In this paragraph he not only appropriating money from refers to the falling retail price index 3163 14 JANUARI 1969 3164 and he seems to claim that the Malay­ pace? The quotations I have just sian enjoyment of a year of relative extracted from his speech illustrate one price stability is something that bis main point. and that is, there has been Budget induced: and yet we all know little thinking in the collection and that in 1968 it was the drop in the assortment of these sententious com­ world price of rice that caused the drop positions. If I may touch on a minor in the retail price index from 109.2 in point which, though very minor, may the second half of 1967 to 107 in the be revealing. I have said earlier that third quarter of 1968. it was the Finance Minister's habit to be extremely particular and meticulous . In para$r�pb 5 of his speech, the in the language he used. In the past Fmance Mtmster claims that his Budget ten years, as has been publicly stated for this year should, and I quote. b him. he set the literary pace for "continue to set the pace and establish y his Treasury officials. but in this parti­ the foundation for greater economic cular mstance 11 would appear that his growth." He then goes on to say that Treasury officials have set tbe literary he expects external demand for Malay­ pace for him. May I invite the House sian primary commodities to be main­ Sir, to note that the last sentence i� tained at a high level. in other words, his paragraph 6 should in fact have he expects Malaysian export earnings been two sentences. separated by a full­ to reach higher levels. It is a little stop, and not joined in misalliance by difficult to reconcile these two state­ a comma. ments by the Finance Minister. Mr Speaker, Sir I think I have Perhaps he may care to explain what , adequately demonstrated that this he means by the expansionary effects of his_ Budget. Will this meaning re­ year's Budget speech lacks the fire, the coherence and the determination that mam if �xtemal demand for Malaysian . characterised previous Budget speeches. commod1bes fall? If, for instance, And as I said, it borders on the tragic prices of rubber again fall to the low that at this crucial time, we have a levels of 1967, will his Budget be able Finance Minister who appears to have to set the pace and establish the lost interest in his Budget The entire foundation for greater economic Budget speech may be summarised into growth? Such vague and often in­ a fe:-v sentences, and I might be congruous statement from the Financt" permitted to do this. The Finance Minister seems to be sprinlcled all over Minister expects that world trade will his s_peec�. I will content myself with expand in 1969 though not at the same quobng 1ust another instance. Para­ levels as in 1968 and consequently graph 6 of his speech sets out the Malaysia may expect to have a better obvious wisdom. and I quote, "In the year in 1969 than it had in 1968. As last analysis it is the private sector far a_s the Budget is concerned, direct which ot only sets the tempo of � taxation has reached the saturation econom c development, self-sustaining � point and only indirect taxation may economic growth cannot be achieved without tbe private sector playing by be attempted to yield whatever addi­ far the major role." In the breath tional finances the Government needs. immediately before this sentence he The Government is faced with severe said, and I quote, "Since the beginning problems in the field of defence and of this decade, the public sector has unemployment and he proposes to been setting the pace," and immediately �acklc these problems by a mild )?<'fore this he said. and I quote. increase 1n taxes on consumer goods Government saw to it that there was and the curtailment of unnecessary or llll letdown in public expenditures in wasteful expenditure. order to ensure that the economy is I have given what I think Sir is firmly based for future expansions." a fair summary of the Financ� Mi�is­ Now, Sir, which is which? Does the ter's speech. But I am sure the House private sector play the major role, or will agree that we face far more severe bas the public sector been setting the problems and far more urgent issues 3165 14 JA1'UARI 1969 3166 then the Finance Minister has cared had been spent on oil exploration in to touch on, much less think about. Sabah, we could well have saved a great deal of foreign exchange and we Malaysia !ias been the world's could have earned very substan­ largest producer of natural rubber for tial sums. a long time. Every time the price of rubber goes up, the country enjo) s a Sir. Malaysia is one of the world's boom, every time the price of rubber biggest suppliers of tropical woods. It declines. all the Government can offer has been so for a number of years. is sympathy. There is in existence a Sabah's inclusion in Malaysia merely Rubber Research Institute. This Insti­ strl!ngthened Malaysia's position as a tute was established by the colonial world supplier of tropical woods. And government and it continues to run yet it was only in the last couple of very much the same y.·ay as it used to years or so, that plywood factories be run. I am not saying that the \.\'ere established in reasonable numbers. Rubber Research Institute has not Malaysia did not lack the capital or done reasonably good work. What I the know-how to establish plywood am saying is that the Government has factories. What we did lack was the not seen to it that the Rubber Research foresight and the determination to put Institute did much more valuable y.·ork. up plywood factories. The net result For instance. in Haw<.iii \vr.ere orchid \\'as that unemployment increased in gro\ving is a thriving industry. a special this country y.·hereas unemployment institution y,.·ith the status of a univer­ decreased in those countries that sity faculty was established to do bought our logs. intensive research in all aspects of Malaysia has been a very large orchid growing. The question l pose producer of palm oil and for a very here is. why after all these years the long time the bulk of this output was R.R.!. has not been given the status exported to countries from which and the functions of a faculty in our Malaysia bought the products from university. this oil. Even in the simple matter of Tin production has been the main­ soap-making. it required a foreign stay of our economy before the arrival firm using its oi,.vn initiative to esta­ of rubber, and yet even today there blish a plant in Kuala Lumpur. Beyond is no institute to conduct research in the establishment of this plant which, the seeking of new areas for tin­ incidentally, also makes margarine. a mining. in seeking new methods of reasonable question is : what has the tin-n1ining, in seeking better and more Government done to stimulate or economic method of tin-mining in generate the establishment of other order that n1argina1 areas may be plants to make more use of this mined, where today they are left primary product? Even today, Sir. unmined. in greater uses for tin and almost Malaysia's entire export of in world factors affecting the price of palm oil is in crude form. It is not tin. even bleached or deodorised. And the question is, should not the Government �ext, crude oil was a nlainstay of set about establishing or stimulating Brunei's economy for the last few the establishment of these facilities to decades. NO\\', Sir. Sabah is next to at least bleach and deodorise palm oil Brunei. Sabah joined Malaysia in 1963 before export? Or is there not this and it was only in late 1968 that the very urgent unemployment problem to Central Government granted leases to tackle and solve? oil companies to explore for oil in Sabah. Every year the country imports Sir. all the Treasury institutions. all vast quantities of oil. The urgent our economic planners, our Finance necessity for oil exploration should Minister. and indeed the whole Cabinet, have been apparent in 1963. And in should be engaged in an intensive all these years instead of spending discussion and exploration of the ways fabulous sums on prestige projects all and means in which Malaysia might over Kuala Lumpur, if some money effect a radical breakthrough into a 3167 14 JANUARI 1969 3168 new dimension of accelerated economic the Honourable Minister of Finance to expansion and growth. But instead of consider their plight and to give them a vigorous call to action, to social a more liberal form of relief, i.e., by discipline and to national unity. the taxing those who have more than nation has been treated to an euphoric $3,000 instead of $2,000 income as essay, which might have been pardon­ development tax is assessed on their able in. a schoolboy, but is certainly general inconie and not their profits. unforgiveable in a group of men Another major problem that is charged with the destiny of this nation in these very perilous and challenging causing much concern to the public is times. the increasing number of unemployed. We have boys leaving schools yearly As a poet declared, if the centre by the thousands and job seekers are cannot hold, things must fall apart, on the increase almost daily with the and we will have situation in which a result that one finds a long queue in the best lack all conviction, while the the Labour Exchange daily waiting to worst, especially those on the Thai­ register themselves. Sir, in my consti­ Malaysian border, are full of passionate tuency of Bagan, many big industries intensity. Much cbliged, Sir. have come up, but the number of local Tuan Tan Cheng Bee (Bagan) boys and girls employed is very (dengan izin): Mr Speaker, Sir, I rise to negligible. In fact, some factories do support this Bill and to congratulate not take any local boys or girls at all the Honourable Minister of Finance and this has caused much criticism for the happy feeling that he has from the local people who say that the generated to the entire country over public statements made by most of his Budget Speech and his revenue these big industries that they have proposals for 1969. In fact, Sir, there employed hundreds of hands are merely v.'as some concern before Parliament eyewash. Sir, recently, our popular met as to what the new taxes would Prime Minister officially opened the be this year, in view of the fact that Gilani Jute and Textile Mills in Butter­ there was a painless Budget in 1968, worth and it was then stated by the and that expenditures especially on Honourable Minister of Commerce and Defence and Education are increasing Industry that the company would heavily. But, Sir. thanks to the wise employ about 720 people. This made and cautious handling of the financiaI our local boys and girls scurrying for position by our Minister of Finance, jobs there, but as far as 1 am aware we are now presented not only with only a few were taken in. I would like yet another painless Budget but with here to plead with the Honourable the prospects that the economic growth Minister of Commerce and Industry to would accelerate strongly in the next request the management of these fac­ 12 months. tories in ButterY.:orth to give opportuni­ ties of employment to the local youths Sir, I would like to plead with the as it has been stated that the policy of Honourable Minister of Finance to the Government is to encourage indus­ consider the position of the hawkers trialisation in order to afford employ­ and petty businessmen who find the ment to our youths. development tax really burdensome to meet. The hawkers and petty traders Sir, as plans are underway to open are living from hand to mouth, and up yet another 2,100 acres of land in there are thousands of them through­ Prai for a new industrial area in the out the country. They earn a few State of Penang, I would earnestly dollars a day out of the sweat of their request the Government of Penang to brow in order to make an honest living co-ordinate or liaise with the Minister for themselves and their families, and of Commerce and Industry. the Local out of these earnings they have to pay Council, the National Electricity Board for their busines� registration fee, and the P.W.D. to see that the prospec­ which has recently been increased, and tive entrepreneurs would get all the also the licence and refuse fees to the advice and help they need to get their Council. I would earnestly appeal to proposed projects through at the 3169 14 JANUARI 1969 3170 quickest and most economical pace. Commissioner of Labour in Penang and I suggested during the Budget Session made their complaints. In this matter. in 1 %8 for a blueprint of the area to ! feel, Sir, since the Deep Sea Wharves be m leading to the Deep Sea \\'hanes doring firms in Penang. they only ask and to Pi.:nang. now in the cours1� of _ to be registered as cargo handlinl! construction, 1,vill pri..)Yide easv. trans­ labourers. in order to have._ a fair shar� por·_ation. Again, the East '\A/est Road of work in the Deep Sea Wharf. Most is rroceed ing as planned and 1,1,· hcn this of the cargo handling labourers are is completed, the link bet1,1,ccn Penan� no\\-· \\-·or�ing in private j.:: !tics along a·1d Kelantai1 1,1, ould

we must envisage the increase of another extra block with another 15 passengers and crew from these ships units of shophouses so that the alloca­ demanding medical attention day and tion would be evenly and happily made. night and must also make provision If I remember, Sir, six blocks of flats for first class passengers or V.I.Ps. were originally planned for the Chain coming aboard seeking medical atten­ Ferry Road, Butterworth, and I cannot tion. The wards in Butterworth Hospi­ understand, Sir, why one block has tal are old and not suitable for con­ now been taken off leaving only 5 version to first class wards and since blocks to be built. Comparing to the in Butterworth we now have so many multi-storey low-cost houses in Rifle industrial establishments and factories, Range, Penang, which are built by the it is time now for the Minister of thousands, it is not too much, Sir, for Health to consider establishing a Butterworth with all the industrial General Hospital in Butterworth. I areas to ask for another block of about have heard recently a statement by my 120 units of low-cost houses. friend and colleague, the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Health in Tuan Stephen Yong Kuet Tze Bukit Mertajam that his Ministry has (Sarawak): Mr Speaker, Sir in Sarawak, plans to convert Bukit Mertajam as required by the State Constitution, Hospital into General Hospital which, the Council Negeri met and discussed according to him. is more appropriate the budget for 1969 in December last as Bukit Mertajam is in the central year. However, no tax proposals were district of Province Wellesley. I cer­ made in that meeting because, accord­ tainly do not agree with him, Sir, as ing to the Chief Minister of Sarawak. I feel that in considering the establish­ it was not known at the time of the ment of a General Hospital, one must meeting how much the annual balanc­ give thought to the exigencies and the ing grant and the escalating annual need of the place concerned. Besides, grant will be given by the Federal Butterworth is near the sea and the Government to the State. health conditions would be more ideal Sir, it was rather a fiasco, a situation than in Bukit Mertajam. where a State Legislature put up a Finally, Sir, I would like to take budget for debate, without having a this opportunity to thank the Minisier proper estimate of revenue. I think of Local Government for the help he similar experience may be obtaining gave the Penang State Governme9t to in West Malaysian States. The question build about 230 units of low-cost houses is, should not the State Legislature or in the Mak Mandin area which is now Legislatures postpone considering completed and about 500 units in the budgets until after the Federal Parlia­ Chain Ferry Road, Butterworth, which ment has considered the Federal is now in the course of construction. budget? Alternatively. should the This is to house those who will be Federal Treasury not given some affected by the improvements to the indication to the States concerned as Chain Ferry Road, Butterworth. I to the likely grants which will be know, Sir, that there are over 72 shop­ forthcoming before the budget session houses, which will be affected in that of the States? Otherwise the State area, and as this block of houses Legislature will merely be putting up which is in the course of construction a puppet show and the budget session would only yield 60 units of shop­ will be without any meaning, and the houses, about 12 units would still be State Legislature will suffer in its required to house the entire number dignity and may be brought into affected, and it would be difficult to ridicule. We. Sir. in Sarawak, are proud allocate 60 shophouses to 72 people of our Council Negeri and we do not affected as it is likely to cause dis­ wish to see it suffer thus. content among those who have been discriminated against. I suggest, Sir, Mr Speaker, Sir. the immediate that the Minister would consider dis­ complaint against the uncertainty of cussing this matter with the Penang these grants, namely, the Balancing Government, and persuade it to build and Escalating Grants in the case of 3173 14 JANCARI 1969 3174

Sarawak, is that wh) should this Sarawak to meekly vote the Alliance become uncertain at all. The report of again in the General Elections, which the Inter-Governmental Commiltee of I am told is being held this year? 1962. which was known as the London In view of the utterances by Minis­ Agreement and which forms the basis ters hinting at the withholding of deve­ of establishment of Malaysia and on lopment funds. if a State should not be which terms Sara\\1ak entered into under the control of the Alliance Malaysia, has specifically provided Government. and there is the example that the Escalating Annual Grant - of the State of Kelantan. the charges would be fixed for each of the first may not be without foundation after fi\·e years, and thereafter would be all. Mr Speaker, Sir. Sarawak has been decided at the end of the period by an under the Alliance rule for over five independent assessor. years. The internal squabbles. jockeying Mr Speaker, Sir. the question is. for positions and the clashes of \vhy was not an ae:reement reached personalities are now open secrets and - between the State of Sarawak and the the comings and goings of the Honour­ Federal Government long before the able Ministers to patch up quarrels end of the period? If there was no must be very exasperating. agreement. was there an independent Sir, generally. the people expect a assessor appointed as provided under Government of dedicated men with the provisions of the London Agree­ dynamic push as befitting a young and ment? If so. we "u uld like to know developing country. but unfortunately who is the independent assessor and they have found that the Sarawak \\'hy no assessment has been made. If Alliance is wanting in this respect. The no such appointment has been made. picture of the Sarawak Alliance is then we must ask. why the delay0 one of inefficient, inept and lack lustre crowd and it does not give tht::: Alliance The revenue \Vhich accrued from a good image. income tax, customs duty and excise duty in Sarawak all go to the Federal Mr Speaker. Sir, the Honourable Treasury and in return Sarawak should Finance Minister very timely pointed receive as of right an Annual Balanc­ out the paradox of land hunger in the ing Grant and aJso recei\·e as of right midst of plenty in Malaysia. We, the a grant sufficient to meet the annual Opposition in Sarawak. have for the increase in the current cost of State last I 0 years pointed out the desirabi­ annual services plus any sum required lity of introducing a land policy where­ to set off any decrease in the State's by suitable land will be made available re\·enue. It is, therefore. Sir. my for development and cultivation which contention that anv assessor cannot is, in our view. the on1y way to depart from the spirit of the Agree­ improve the economy of the country. ment. that is to say the assurance for The people expect the State Govern­ subsidising the expansion of State ment. y..·hich claim to be of their own services. This is a pledge which the kind. to raise their standard of living Federal Government rnust honour. It and improve their lot generally. But, is. therefore, \Vi th alarm and despon­ Mr Speaker. Sir. what has the Sarawak dency that we find in the 1969 Federal A11iance done? They drag their feet budget before us under Head T. 12 and. instead of assuring the people the Sub-heads (vi) and (vii) token votes advantage of a more liberal land policy. of $10 each only for the Annual they talk of possible exploitation and Balancing Grant and Annual Escalating stifle any proposal for land reforms. Grant in respect of \Vhich \\'e received We suffer very much from having too last year 55.8 million and $21 million many shortsighted and self-seeking respectively. Mr Speaker. Sir. could people at the top in Sarawak. These the delay or the withholding of the people arc the proteges of the Alliance grant for 1969 be a deliberate one? Government here. May \Ve ask. why Could they be intended to be used as can't pressure be applied by tht." Centre. a big stick to CO\\' the electorates in so that the States under the Alliance 3175 14 JANUARI 1969 3176 rule will heed the Finance Minister'? we will find that not all the rich belong Perhaps, these are block-headed lots. to one section of the community, nor who are incapable o! comprehending all the poor are confined to any one the national interest, or people who race. Therefore Sir. in order to establish cannot think beyond their own interest. a more just �nd egalitarian society we cannot and should not think in We, Sir, o! the Opposition in terms o! any one race. II we do. we Sarawak will place national interest will divide the country instead o! above our personal or party interest. uniting it, and the slogan o! one If we win the election in Sarawak. we country. one people will sound very will certainly introduce a liberal land empty indeed. policy, whereby the vast land mass that we have can be developed and Sir. people talk o! economic will be utilised in the best possible imbalance among the different races way in the interests o! all concerned. in Malaysia, and the Government is We will play lair. and so we expect pouring out millions with a view to that also o! the Alliance here. We adjusting this situation, but whether hope the day will not come when the the measures so !ar taken will have Alliance here has to resort to trickery the desired effect are left to be seen. and machination to destroy the However, personally I would like to Opposition in Sarawak and prop up a know if the Government has really regime, which has forfeited its right gone down to the root o! the matter, to govern. and that is to find out what are the causes o! poverty in the country. Can Mr Speaker. Sir, we o! the SUPP this be overcome by economic aids or have declared that we will uphold the by education, which may mean a principle o! parliamentary democracy change in the way o! life or attitude and o! achieving our political aims by towards life? constitutional means. Our political aim inter alia is to see to the realisa­ Mr Speaker, Sir, I am posing these tion o! a society based on the principle questions not !or partv propaganda. o! socialism and inculcate in the minds but more as a challenge to the call o! the people a sense o! sell-endeavour. o! establishing one nation. Unless we Whereas we believe that we should recognise that poverty and affluence have a planned economy and foreign do transcend on racial barriers in our capital !or development, we also believe country, and one's station in life is our economic solution must necessarily related to one's upbringing. opportunity depend on our own endeavours. Our and sell-determination without racial ultimate aim is to establish a system consideration. there will always be where the rich would not get richer suspicion and misunderstanding of one and the poor get poorer. That means. race against the other in this country. Sir, some measure of control in eco­ For this reason, Sir. we !eel that the nomy is necessary. Alliance as it is an association of Tuan Timbalan Yang di-Pertua: political parties based on racial Meshuarat di-tanggohkan sa-lama 10 grounds, cannot and should not be a mi nit. permanent fea ture in the political scene in Malaysia. It spoils disunity Persidangan di-tempohkan pada in accentuating the racial difference o! pukul petani:. 5.20 the component parties: it is contra· Persidangan di-sa1nbong sa-1nula dictory to the ideal o! building one nation and the moulding o! one pada pukul 5.30 petang. people. For that reason the introduction (Tuan Timbalan Yang di-Pertua mem­ o! the word "bumiputra" into the pengerusikan Meshuarat) Malaysian politics. which applies to Perbahathan di-sambong sa-mula. Malays and other indigenious people, to the exclusion o! citizens o! Chinese, Tuan Stephen Yong Kuet Tze: Mr Indian and Eurasian origins. who may Speaker, Sir, if we look around us, have connection with this country for 3177 14 JANUARI 1969 3178 centuries. is an unhappy on�. If "bumi­ mustahak-lah di-tambah lagi pegawai2 putrns' is the term to be applied to kastam supaya dapat di-kawal penye­ the have-nots in the economic sense, ludupan2 tersebut yang sering berlaku why not specify it'' So that racial di-sempadan Sian1. di-laut pantai eien1ents \.vill not be introduced? If a timor dan barat kita yang terdedah citizen in saying anything or doing itu serta di-selatan Johor. Saya rasa anything in the country has to recall Kerajaan tidak rugi menan1bah per­ v.·hat his racial ori1.?:in is. hov.· can we belanjaan untok menchegah penye­ expect any sense Ot belonging from ludupan. tetapi sa-balek-nya akan hin1·� menambah hasil negara dan saya chadangkan bekas2 pasokan kcselamat­ Tuan Abdul Karim bin Abu ('.\lelaka an yang ada di-dalam tanah ayer kita Selatan): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya ini, yang layak, boleh-lah Kerajaan bangun menyokong Anggaran Perbe­ ambil, di-beri latehan untok meronda lanjaan yang di-kemukakan oleh Yang penyeludup' yang agak bermaharaja­ Berhormat Menteri Ke\i,.·angan. Pada lela itu. fikirnn saya patut di-beri sa-kalong bunga kapada Yang Berhorn1at Men­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Kcrajaan teri Kewangan. Saya tidak-lah hendak hendak n1enolong ra'ayat yang men­ mengulas apa yang di-katakan oleh ganggor dalan1 negeri ini hingga Ahli' Parti Pembandae. kerana bcrbelanja $7 juta lebeh sa-tahun bagi men1ang menjadi satu � tabi'i kapada Kementerian Buroh. Ra"

Tuan Yang di-Pertua. bagi me­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Jabatan Buroh nambah hasil negara. saya berpendapat patut di·b�ri kuasa menerima wang bahawa menchegah penyeludupan chukai dapat kerja daripada tiap' sa­ daripada sempadan hendak-lah di­ orang chalon yang telah berjaya perketatkan lebeh kuat lagi. Chara­ mendapat sebarang kerja. Mengikut nya tentu-lah Kerajaan sedar ia-itu kadar peratus gaji-nya yang akan 3179 14 JANUARI 1969 3180 di-terima. Rasa saya tidak berasa kesal Habis dia sapu-nya. Orang yang ada I tiap' mereka yang dapat kerja mem­ plate teksi langsong boleh jadi tidak bayar-nya. Ini juga akan menambabkan dapat sewa, kerana yang sapu ini I basil negara. murab sewa-nya sampai tujoh Japan I orang boleh masok satu kereta. Jadi Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa-lain dari­ kalau di-sekat2 tentu-lah menguntong­ pada itu ra'ayat luar negeri ada kan, kita menggalakkan kapada ra'ayat pulohan ribu yang bekerja di-tanab membuat kesalahan. Dan menjadi ayer kita ini. Saya cbadangkan ra'ayat I bencbana kapada ra'ayat, umpama-nya luar negeri yang bekerja dengan kalau sa-buah teksi sapu ini membawa sebarang Jabatan dan majikan bendak­ orang yang tidak bertanggong-jawab. lab di-kenakan cbukai kerja ra'ayat Bas bagitu juga. Saya memberi luar negeri, sekurang2-nya satu peratus pandangan umpama-nya jalan dari­ dariapda gaji-nya pada tiap2 bulan pada Melaka ka-Muar, sa-batang jalan sa-bagai menambab basil negara. Saya ini chuma satu bas sahaja, satu berasa bimbang ra'ayat dalam negeri company sahaja di-benarkan, company ini sendiri banyak menganggor tetapi lain tidak di-benarkan melalui jalan ra'ayat daripada luar negeri banyak itu. Jadi dia jadi raja. jalan itu dia di-bawa masok ka-dalam negeri kita punya. ini terutama sa-kali oleb majikan2 dengan kita tidak mengambil indab Jadi apabila dia sudah mena'alok pun. jalan itu, dia boleh membuat sa-suka Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa-lain dari­ hati dia, tidak ada pertandingan, tidak ada perlawanan sa-bingga bas yang pada itu bagi menambabkan basil negara, saya merayu kapada Yang di-bawa oleh company dia itu sudah macham Berbormat Menteri Pengangkutan. Yang macham bertandak, burok (Ketawa). Berbormat Menteri tersebut telab ber­ A-go-go Jadi orang hendak kali2 berkata permit' teksi. bas, lori­ naik pun susah. Tuan Yang di-Pertua. dan passenger' tertunggu2 mengikut sudab babis--quota-nya sudab cbukup, sudab tutup pintu. Saya berpendapat time sampai sa-tengah jam tidak dapat. pintu ini di-buka supaya di-berikan Tetapi kalau ada perlawanan di-antara kelonggaran bagi menambab sa-berapa satu company dengan satu company banyak plate teksi, bas2, Jori' yang di-satu jalan yang sama tentu-lah dia permit "A" di-beri kapada mereka hendak baikkan bas dia, hendak yang berkebendakkan yang layak. molekkan bas dia. hendak bersehkan Kerana ini juga ...... bas dia. driver dia tidak sombong. Tetapi hari ini driver yang menjalan­ Menteri Pengangkutan (Tan Sri Haji kan bas satu jalan yang di-punyai oleh Sardon): Untok penjelasan, Tuan Yang satu company naik kasehan kita. Ada di-Pertua, untok quota sa-kira-nya dia orang tua yang sudah menchapai bermohon kapada Majlis Pelesen akan tangan bas hendak naik dia jalan, di-timbangkan. Untok quota itu, quota budak2 sekolah sudah-lah lain cherita. bagi orang' Melayu terhadap teksi, sa­ Jadi ini di-harapkan mendapat per­ siapa pun boleh bermohon kapada timbangan daripada Yang Berhormat Majlis Pelesen dan sharat2 hendak-lah Menteri dan ini juga mendapat di-adakan dan kalau di-timbangkan menambah hasil negara. patut akan di-beri permit itu, tidak di-tutup. Tuan Yang di-Pertua. suka-lah sadikit. bukan sadikit banyak memberi Tuan Abdul Karim bin Abu: Terima pujian kapada bukan sahaja Yang kaseh. Berhormat Menteri Pelajaran tetapi Kalau saya silap, saya minta ma'af­ seluroh Cabinet Kerajaan tetapi ini lah, tetapi saya memberi pandangan khas saya hadapkan kapada Menteri ini. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, umpama­ Pelajaran yang mengumumkan baharu' nya permit teksi. Ada salah sa-orang ini pelajar' yang hendak masok Univer­ rakan saya baharu berchakap, teksi' siti mesti lulus babasa Melayu. Sudah sapu ini sangat banyak dalam tanah ny ata nilai bahasa Melayu telah di­ ayer kita. jadi ini merugikan Kerajaan. naikkan kapada taraf yang sa-benar. 3181 14 JANUARI 1969 3182

Saya berharap kapada Yang Berhormat Ayer Keroh sa-buah bandar baharu Menteri akan juga mengumumkan di-Melaka, tetapi saya berpendapat dan sadikit masa lagi nilai bahasa Melayu. merayu kapada Yang Berhormat Bahasa Kebangsaan. sa-tanding dengan Menteri Kewangan di-Melaka sangat bahasa lnggeris. Kerana ini sudah mustahak di-adakan satu pelabohan menjadi selalu tanda tanya nilai. harga saperti Pulau Pinang, Port Swettenham. maseh ada berbedza. Bagi menggalak­ Dengan jalan ada pelabohan yang sa­ kan Bahasa Kebangsaan terus di­ rupa ini. rasa saya ra·ayat dalam negeri pelajari seluroh ra'ayat dengan tidak Melaka akan dapat mengurangkan di-bedza2kan !agi nilai-nya. Saya suka penganggoran, dapat-lah mata pen­ bedza2kan lagi nilai-nya. Saya suka charian lain. Tempat' yang hendak mengeluarkan pendapat apa yang di­ di-jadikan pelabohan di-negeri Melaka bayangkan oleh Yang Berhormat ini satu di-Tanjong Keling. Tanjong �1enteri Pelajaran. ujian bahasa Keling, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sekarang Melayu tidak perlu untok mengadakan pun ada tempat minyak. entah minyak ujian lisan lagi. Pada saya. ujian lisan Shell. Kapa! yang beribu2 tan, kapal ini mustahak di-adakan kapada yang Amerika itu datang menuangkan berkenaan sama ada kapada penun­ minyak di-tepi pantai, menunjokkan tut2. kapada bakaF yang menjadi pelabohan boleh di-buat di-Tanjong pegawai. Kerana kalau ini tidak Keling dengan tidak menggunakan di-perlukan, saya berasa bimbang apa' banyak belanja. Kalau pelabohan sudah yang berlaku pada hari ini ada anak' ada tentu-lah banyak }ang mendatang­ Melayu sendiri boleh di-katakan sudah kan keuntongan kapada negeri Melaka. lupa berchakap Melayu. Dia tidak Ini tak payah-lah saya terangkan satu tahu sangat bahasa Mebyu, apa lagi persatu. Rasa saya dengan ada-nya orang yang bukan Melayu. pclabohan nanti datang-lah seiarah sa-belum tahun 1409 dahulu. Kalau Jadi pepereksaan dengan bertulis. orang hendak datang ka-Tanah Melayu Tuan Yang di-Pertua, banyak orang dia mesti naik di-negeri Melaka dan boleh buat, tetapi berchakap. meng­ orang Iuar negeri di-dalam dunia ini gunakan chakapan Melayu ini sa-hari' tak kenal Kuala Lumpur masa itu, ini-lah yang kita kehendaki untok tak ada barandali, dia tak kenal Johor hendak menjadikan ra'ayat negeri ini Bahru dan dia tak kenal Pulau Pinang satu bahasa dan satu bangsa pada masa agak-nya. yang dia kenal Melaka. jauh akan datang. Saya berasa bimbang sa-kali Kelantan. Jadi ini-lah harapan masa akan datang B:.ihasa Kebanl?saan saya. tidak akan menjadi BJhasa Kebangsaan pada amalan. tetapi chuma menjadi Satu lagi kalau hendakkan tempat bahasa kebangsaan untok mendapatkan pelabohan ada lagi ia-itu di-Telok kelulusan. lepas itu hilang ghaib-lah Mas. Kampong Pernu. Sekarang pun bahasa kita. ada pelabohan tempat orang' Jepun datang mengambil kayu balak daripada Tuan Yang di-Pertua. saya akhir­ saudagar:: Melayu yang mempunyal nya suka-lah memberikan pandangan balak di-bawa ka-negeri Jepun. Jadi kapada Yang Berhormat Menteri ra'ia saya tidak perlu memakan belan.ia Kewangan. kerumitan� yang ber1aku yang banyak hendak membuat pelaboh­ kapada ra'ayat negcri !\1daka pada an hcsar di-\1elaka. masa akan datang untok mendapat perhatian penoh daripada Yang Ber­ Tuan '\'ang: Ji-Pcrtua. British bukan hormat Menteri Ke\.vangJn kerana s;.i.haj;.i. nieningg:alkan neg:eri Melaka beliau juga memang anak jati Melaka. ka\i,·asan Terend1Jk Kf"m k0son2. tetapi Yang Amat Berhormat Ketua Menteri dia n1eninggalkan manusia yang bekerja Melaka pernah melaongkan kebim­ deng:an dia beribu'.:' orang. Orang: yang bangan sa-lepas tahun 1971 tentang bekerja dengan Ashkar British bukan nasib ekonomi ra"ayat Melaka dan orang Melaka. entah orang dari mana saya tahu Kerajaan Negeri Melaka di-bawa. Jadi apabila dia keluar orang tidak berdiam daripada menchari jalan itu harus tak balek ka-tempat dia. dia supaya ra'ayat Melaka dapat menchari akan dudok meninggal tetap di­ pekerjaan saperti hcndak mcnjadikan Melaka. A pabila dia meninggal tetap 3183 14 JANUARI 1969 3184 di-Melaka menjadi satu beban lagi Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ra·ayat negeri ini kapada Kerajaan Melaka. lni saya harus berfikir dan memandang. bahawa harap supaya mendapat perhatian Perikatan Lelah mengambil aleh peme­ sunggoh2 daripada Yang Berhormat rentahan negara chuma dalam tempoh Menteri Kewangan dan kalau dapat IO tahun sa-belum itu negara kita di­ pelabohan itu di-jadikan maka ini jajah dari satu tangan ka-satu tangan. ada-lah memberikan pertolongan yang Boleh-kah dosa 100 tahun yang dahulu besar kapada ra'ayat negeri Melaka. di-perhempapkan kapada Kerajaan Terima Kaseh. yang ada hari ini, sedang wujud-nya Kerajaan hari ini chuma 10 tahun. Tuan Haji Abdul Razak bin Hussin: Kalau sa-kira-nya ra·ayat mahu me­ (Lipis): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dengan nunjokkan, atau melihat, apa yang kita izin Tuan. saya mengambil peluang laku untok kebaikan ra'ayat. beri lagi­ membahathkan Anggaran Belanjawan lah keperchayaan ra'ayat negeri ini kita bagi tabun 1969 ini yang telah di­ kapada Kerajaan Perikatan. Kita akan bentangkan oleh Yang Berhormat Men­ menunjokkan apa yang kita buat, dan teri Kewangan kita. Belanjawan yang kita akan lakukan untok kebaikan di-bentangkan itu ada-lah satu belan­ ra'ayat sa-luroh-nya. jawan yang sangat sederhana yang dapat di-terima oleh ra'ayat negeri ini Tuan Yang di-Pertua, parti2 Pem­ walau pun pada mula-nya ra·ayat bangkang dalam negara kita ada yang negeri ini telah berkata2 apa-kah chukai berupa perkauman satu bangsa. Parti baharu yang akan di-kenakan menje­ P.P.R. sudah nyata dan terang bahawa lang belanjawan tahun 1969 nanti. party-nya anti-Melayu. Parti PAS Tetapi apabita telah di-bentangkan, sudah terang bahawa ada-lah satu parti keleg aan telah timbul walau pun ada yang tidak mengaku ada-nya hak chukai2 tambahan di-naikkan. orang yang bukan Melayu dalam negara kita. Tidak-kah ra'ayat berfikir Pada hemat saya, Tuan Yang di­ bahawa Perikatan-lah yang mengambil Pertua, chukai tambahan yang di-naik­ jalan tengah bagi menjadikan negeri kan ini ada-lah satu perkara yang patut ini sa-buah negara yang berkemajuan di-perbuat demikian. Waiau pun ada dan berkema'muran untok semua parti Pembangkang dalam Dewan ini ra·ayat. Apa yang kita lakukan pada memperkatakan Budget kali ini, belan­ hari ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, chuma jawan kali ini, ada-lah Belanjawan kita hendak mengimbangkan pehak Pilehan Raya dan ada juga sa-tengah2 yang berada dengan pehak yang tidal< Pembangkang memperkatakan bahawa berada. Kejayaan dan kema'muran arah yang di-bawa oleh Kerajaan Peri­ negeri ini ada-lah tergantong atas ker­ katan boleh jadi membahagiakan jasama, fahaman daripada ra'ayat ra'ayat negeri ini dan bagitu juga sa­ dalam negeri ini sendiri. tetapi sa-bagai balek-nya sa-bagaimana yang di-perka­ kata pantun Melayu. Tuan Yang di­ takan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat dari Pertua, biarkan-lah Lunchai terjun Bungsar, wakil tunggal D.A.P. Waiau dengan labu2-nya; biar-lah P.P.R.. dan pun beliau hanya sa-orang sahaja dalam D.A.P. sa-bagai-nya memperkatakan Dewan ini, suara-nya yang telah tidak sa-suatu mengikut hati-nya, tetapi laku itu telah di-tunjckkan oleh ra'ayat hendak-lah kita berpandu, berpandu negeri ini dalam pilehan raya yang kapada fikiran yang waras dalam masa baharu di-adakan di-kawasan Serdang. zaman kita yang modern ini. Tetapi apa yang kita buat, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dalam tempoh IO tahun yang Tuan Yang di-Pertua, berbalek ka­ sudah membuktikan bahawa kita pada belanjawan tahun 1969, dengan sudah memimpin negara ini ka-arah mengenakan chukai2 buah2an dari luar kemajuan dan kema'muran. Tidak ada negeri umpama-nya, maka ini sangat siapa dalam dunia ini yang boleh mem­ besar erti-nya kapada perkembangan beri kepuasan kapada tiap' sa-orang kemajuan tanam chuchok di-negeri ini. dari kita melainkan Allah semata2• Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ra'ayat boleh Kapada mereka yang berugama yang menggunakan, memakan makanan mengaku ujud Tuhan akan bersetuju yang di-dapati dari negeri ini sendiri. kapada apa yang saya katakan, tetapi Kita boleh memberi perasaan kaseh 3185 14 JANUARI 1969 3186 kapada barang yang ada dalam negeri kita perhebatkan. terutan1a dalam ini, Tuan )'ang di-Pertua. Pa

Ramos ini sa-akan' tidak dapat keper­ sa-lagi Philipina maseh belum meng­ chayaan dari Kerajaan-nya. Maka akui Malaysia mempunyai kedaulatan hendak-lah kita berwaspada pada masa yang penoh ka-atas Sabah, biar-Iah yang akan datang akan telatah ahli kita baik2 atau kita kenal' China diplomat Philipina ini. Apa yang saya sahaja dengan-nya. Tuan Yang di­ ramalkan rupa-nya, Tuan Yang di­ Pertua. kerana Philipina ini nampak­ Pertua, tidak merosot. Tempoh ber­ nya ada muslihat ia-itu ada udang di­ tenang lagi telah pun di-langsongkan, sa-balek batu. di-persetujukan dengan ranchangan Menteri' ASEAN. Bila satu ketetapan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya hendak chara perdamaian di-buat oleh Men teri' berchakap sadikit dalam masaalah pela­ ASEAN di-sampaikan kapada Kera­ jaran dalam negara kita. Usaha yang jaan masing2, Kerajaan Malaysia dan di-lakukan oleh Kementerian kita bagi Philipina, apa-kah hasil yang kita menampong kanak' dalam sekolah kita, dapati bahawa Philipina tidak ber­ kita harus puji bahawa Kerajaan kita setuju atas usaha2 Menteri' ASEAN. sekarang ini telah memberi per­ hanya pengiktirafan de facto sahaja sekolahan perchuma dari Darjah I yang di-akui kapada kedudokan Sabah hingga Darjah VI dan memberi per­ atas kedaulatan Malaysia di-Sabah. chuma bayaran kapada sa-barang penuntut yang menuntut aliran Melayu. Jadi saya suka memberi pandangan kapada Kerajaan pada tahun hadapan Tuan Yang di-Pertua. pada tahun kejohanan Badminton Asia yang akan yang sudah ada sa-ramai 80 ribu kanak2 di-langsong di-Manila beberapa belas yang masok dalam Tingkatan III dan buah negara Asia akan masok dalam tahun ini ada 100 ribu. mungkin tahun pertandingan itu bagi merebut kejo­ hadapan lebeh lagi 120 ribu atau lebeh. hanan Badminton Asia Yang Kedua. tetapi quota penuntut yang bole h Oleh sebab keadaan kita maseh merun­ masok dalam Tingkatan IV ini hanya ching. saya mengcshorkan kapada 40 ribu orang sahaja. Jadi kalau sa­ Kerajaan supaya pemain2 kita tidak kira-nya keadaan ini berpanjangan, di-hantar ka-Philipina. Saya tidak sa­ maka mungkin peluang belajar bagi kali2 hendak menahan juara bad­ kanak' itu makin sempit dan peluang minton2 kita hendak menunjokkan belajar bagi kanak' itu makin nipis. permainan-nya di-antarabangsa atau Saya mengshorkan kapada Kerajaan lagi hendak mempertahankan kejo­ supaya membesarkan lagi Form IV hanan-nya, tetapi apa yang saya takut. bagi menampong kanak2 y·ang lulus Tuan Yang di-Pertua. keseiamatan daripada LCE itu. Saya tahu, saya mereka itu tidak terjamin. walau pun sedar, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dengan akuan Menteri Luar Philipina sendiri menambah darjah. akan berkehendak­ bahawa kawalan ketat akan di-kenakan kan bertambah guru' dan bertambah untok keselamatan pemain2 Malaysia, alatan2 clan sa-bagai-nya. tetapi saya tetapi pembunohan sering berlaku. Tuan rasa, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ada banyak Yang di-Pertua. di-Philipina itu. Dalam masaalah chara yang boleh kita ambil dua tiga hari ini sa-orang lagi Datok bukan bagi bayaran sekolah, tetapi Bandar telah mati di-tembak. Pendek ada-lah sa-bagai bantuan terus-menerus kata kalau jadi satu2 perkara kita akan daripada kanak2• Baharu2 ini, Yang kerugian juara badminton kita. Dengan Berhormat Menteri Pelajaran telah sebab itu saya shorkan kapada Kerajaan mengumumkan bahawasa-nya dalam supaya di-timbangkan masaalah meng­ tiap2 tahun kanak' di-kehendaki mem­ hantar juara badminton kita kejohanan bayar sa-banyak sekian2 ringgit bagi Badminton Asia Yang Kedua. Kerana kegunaan sukan. dan ada sa-tengah' sa-belum ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sekolah, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, meng­ kita tidak menghadhiri perjumpaan enakan bayaran khas sa-banyak $4.50 Ahli' Parlimen Asia dan kita pada tiap2 sa-tahun, sama ada pem­ tidak menghantar ratu chantek kita bayaran khas ini dengan arahan Men­ bertanding di-Manila. oleh sebab kita teri Pelajaran atau tidak, atau kehendak memikirkan bahawa maruah kita harus sekolah itu send iri. saya tidak pasti, kita jaga. Sa-lagi maruah kita di-nodal. tetapi tujuan pokok perchakapan saya, 3193 14 JAl\:t:ARI 1969

Tuan Yan• di-Pertua. bahawa untok Tuan Haji Abdul Razak bin Huosin: rncnan1pong rnasaalah kewangan kanak2 Insha' Allah, panjang lagi. boleh-lah. meminta kapada ibu bapa­ Tuan Timbalan Yang di-Pertua: nya bayaran satu ringgit satu kepala lvfeshuarat ini Ji-tanggohkan hingga bagi tiap' satu penggal. pukul 10 pagi esok. Tuan Timbalan \'ang di-Pertua: Dea·an di-tanl.[gohkan pada pukul Panjang lagi? fi.30 perang.