Elahtb Series, Vol. XXII, No. 11, Tuesday, Noyember 18, 1916 Kartika 27, 1901 (Sata)
LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Seventh Session (Ei.gllth Lok Sabba)
(Vol. XXII contains Nos. 11 to 20)
LOB: SABRA SECRETARIAT NEW DELIU Price IRs. 6.00 [Original English proceedings included in English Version and Original Hindi proceedings included in Hindi Version will be treated as uuthoritative and not the translation thereof.l -----~------~------~--~--~--- [Eighth Series. }lo/"me XXII, Seventh Session J 986/19DB (SAKA)] No. I 1. Tuesday, November 18 1986/ KartiS,,. 27, J 90B (SAKA)
~COLUMNS
Oral Answers to Questions~
·Starred Q'uestion& Nos. ·210,213, 2t'6,'218, 221, 222 and 103 ·.. Wr:itten Answers to Questions·':_
Starred Questions Nos •. 20S' to 209, 211, 212, 214, 215, 2l7, 219, 220, 22.3 and 224 ·.. 31-40
Unstarred Questions Nos. 2096 to 2124, 2126 to 2138. 2140 to 2163; 2t65 to 2241, 2243 to 2265, -2267 to 2289 . and 2291 to 2327 40-270 ·~ . Papers laid on the Table ... 276-281- Message from Rajya Sabba '281...:-282
Public Accounts Committee ... 2'82 Action taken Statements-
Matters UodrJ. Rule 377 ~82:-289
0) Need to link Ayodhya by rail with other big cities of the country Shri R. P. Suman ... 282-283
(ii) . Need Jo connect Bbubaneshwar with Vishakhapatnam, Raipur and Port Blair by Vayudoot Services. Shri Braja~ohan M ohanty ... 283 . (iii) Need to look into the problem of displaced persons in. Rengali and Indravati areas in Orissa. Shri Sriballa v Panisrahi ... 284. ,. (iv) Need to e.xploit various places of attraction in Kerala for promot~od of tourism
Prof."K. V. Thomas .. ... 284-285
*The Sign+marked abov~ the nam~ of a'Member indicates that the question was act\lally asked. 00 the floor of the House by that Member. tv) Need to live 8a~ttion to the' Kuriar KuUy-Karapara multi$lurpose project in Kerala
Sbri V. S. Vijayara.havan .. '285~286
(vi) Need to encourage IOlar can cultivators by aiving lut);idy to increase sugar-cane cultivation to save the ,Sl1lar mills in Kerala ' Sari Thampan Thomas ... 286
(vU) Need to implement recommendations' of thc Fourth Pay (;ommission in respect of. women. employees and reject some others. .
Shrimati Gee.t 'Mukllerji ••• 286 -2&7
(viii) Need to draw up rehabilitation plan for the people uprooted. in the NALCO Project in Oris,sa
Shti K. P4 Singh Deo 287--288 • (ix) Need for an early construction of railway over-bridge in Son~p-at
. Sbri Dharam Pal Singh M.:Hk .. . 289.
Indian Post Office (Amendment)- ~il1. 1986-Contd. 289-312 t~ Motion to consider-
Shri Sontosh.Mohan 'Dev ' ... 289-296
Clauses 2 to 39 and 1 ... 297-31~ Motion to pass- .
Snri Sontosh Mohan Dev 312
Discussion Re : Recent Spurt in Terrorist Activities in Punjab and other Parls of tbe Country- ••• 312-408 Sbri Bhattam Srirama Murty ..., 313-323 Sbri.Jaaannath Kausal ... 323-328.. Sbri Saifuadin Chowdhary ... 328-334 Shri .R.. S. Sparrow ... 335-340 Sbri Thompan 'Thomas ... 340-344
8hri Bholanath Sen ••• 344-348
(ti) , \ l.U MNg J Co
Shri indrajit Gu pt~ ... 348--35'1
" Sbtr CbiraoJi .Lal Sharma ...l,., 351.-362
Sw:l P. '~elvendran ... 362~364 . 8bri Saleem I: .,Shervani' ... 364-367
Sbri Dinesb G~swami ... . . 367-372
·8bri P ~ K. Tbunson ... 372-376 Sbri Cbaranjit Sigh Athwal ... 371-380 Shri Janak Raj Gupta· ... 380-383 'Sbri Balwant Singh Ramoowalia ' ... 383-3-89 s. Buta Singh ... 390-40'9
Fapers laid on the Ta~le-Contd. ... 409-410
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LOK SABRA DEBATES
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LOK SABHA DR. V. VFNKATESH : Qn. No. 210. [Translation]
Tue~dQY, November 18. 1986 fKartika MR. SPEAKTR. : Thank you for beiDI 27, 1908 (SAKA) present. ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
The Lok Sabha met at Eleven 01 the [English] Clock. Procurement or Equipment by Neyveli Lignite Corporation Limited [MR. SPEAKER In the Chair.] *210. DR. V. VENKATESH : Will {English] the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to MR.. SPEAKER: Mr. Bharat Kumar state: Odedra. He' is not present. (a) the total number of tenders floated during the last four years Neyvcli SHRI C. MADRA V REDOI: This is by Lignite Corpora tion Limited, Tami I Nadu which an important subject. had financial tie·up with West German [Translation] financial agency, K.F.W.; MR. SPEAKER.: What can I say? (b) the types of mining equip~ents You should have looked for him a bit intended to be procured through such earlier and detained him. tenders; and
[English] (c) the details of equipments so far Mr. H. B. PatH. He is also not procured and value of each item 1 here. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY
MR. SPEAKER ~ Except us. (b) The types of mining equipmenta intended to be procured included lignite Mr. Yogeswar Prasad Yogesh. Not here. handling system, mobile transfer conveyor., bucket wheel excavators, Spreaders, Con [Translation] veyors, bet drum transporter., steel cord In spite of beina double Yoaesb, be is belting etc. Dot present. (c) The detaiJs of eq uipments for which (EI"Ush] letters of intent have been issued so far and Dr. V. Veokatesb. value of each itcm ace as under : 3 Or(.ll Answers NOVEMBER 18, 1986 Oral An!werJ 4
Equipment Name of Supplier Value of Contract
1. Conveyors (4 Nos) o & K, West Germany DM 6.324 Million 8.S.L., Madras Ra, 42.917 Million
2. Reciaimers (2 No,) Krupp, West Germany DM 2.S 1 S Million Buckau Wolf India Rs. 21. 463 Million
3. Mobile Transfer Krupp. West Germany DM 3.61 S Minion Conveyors (3 Nos) Buckau Wolf India Rs. S7.1S3 Million
4. 1400 L Bucket o & K. West Germany OM· 90.492,400 Wheel Excavator S.S.L , Madras Rs.453,009,034
S. 700 L Bucket Krupp, West Germany DM 66,184,2 SO Wheel Excavator B.W.I., Pune Rs. 316,241,625
6. 2400 MM Conveyors El eeon Eugg. Company DM 35,643,786 Ltd., V.v. Nagar Its. 602,560,110
7. 2000 MM Conveyors -do- OM 4,661,408 Rs. 186,'738,698
8. 20,000 T/RR. M.A N OJ West Germany DM ~6,483,420 Spreaders WMI Cranes Ltd., Bombay Rs. 276,129,S6~
·9. Belt Drum Trans Heinrich Hillie KG, DM 741,411,41 porter West Germany
10. Steel Cord Belting Clouth, West Germany DM 6,451,765
11. Lignite Handling Kru~p, West Germany DM 26,295,000 System (TSII!I Stage) Rs. 630,000 Buckau Wolf India Rs. 260,875,000
12.. Boiler Feed Pumps Worthington Nord, DM 12,629,900 (TSII!I Stage) Italy Batliboi, Madras Rs. 4,300.000
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DR. V. VENKATESH: This is a very of the defective excavator, a number of serious issue. Somehow the Minister con.. people were killed on the spot. So far, no cerned has been evading giving a proper compensation has been paid to them. That answer to this. There has been misappro.. is number one. Number two, the Govern pri3tion here in the Neyveli Lignite ment of India also had asked for Corporation. It involves crores of rupees compensa tion from M.A.N., but so far., of foreign exchnnge. On e agency of West M.A .1'1. has not given any compensation to Germany has colluded. with the officials of the Government of India a1so. But in spite the Neyveli l.ignite Corporation. M.A N. of that. the M.A.N. people were invited bad sUl)plied a defective bucket wheel for further tendering and in the tender, the excavator las} time and due to tbe collapse M A.N. people have been_ siven .tbe work, ~ Oral Answtrs KART1KA ~1, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6
I want to know why the Minister is not MR. SPEAKER:., That means you aware of these things and why they have stand where You were and he stands where given further supply of materials to the he was. 'Lignite Corporation. DR. V. VENKATESH: Therefore, I SHRI VASANT SATHE: First, I must want to ask the Mini~ter to take up this disabuse the mind and the charge that ,there issue and eXlmine it by the Members of bas b:en any case of misfeasance in this Parliament. Time and again a number of whole matter. There has been no loss as alleged or corruption or misappropriation members have been asking the same ques tion and he has been evading the answer. of what is called hundred crores. I am not It is a fact that MAN has supplied defective aware of any such thing. Nothing has budkets and agency has been once been brought to our notice. I know the the same again given further supply order. entire matter. 1 have enquired into thi3 again and again. MR. SPEAKER; I cannot take that As far as Bucket Wheel Excavator is word for granted because there bas been an concerned, the accident was caused as it inquirY. was found from the. enquiry that we held because of the human failure on the part of DR. V. VENKATESH: It is because gome of the officials. Action has already the members ot that Ministry colluded with been taken against them. Prosecution is the agency. Therefore, let the Housinl going on against the officials concerned. Committee probe into this matter. So, all necessary steps have been taken. The defect was not found with the equip SHRI V ASANT SA THE : 'There is the ment, the defect was found with the most absurd charge on any Ministry to handling of the equipment. You cannot suggest that they have coI1uded with and hold a company responsible or a party party. responsible if you cannot handle a proper equipment in a proper way. That was the DR. V. VENKATESH : If it is not so, reason. All that has been enquired into. !et him face the Committee. This is a That has nothing to do with it. The serious issue because hundred crores of Bucket Wheel Excavator case bas been gone foreign e~change is involved in this. into thoroughly.
Now the question 18 about another MR. SPEAKER : I cannot help you on order. Two parties, both of West Germany, that score. You put the second supple.. MAN and DEMAG were there. The new mentary. order is about Spreaders, that also was . examined. KFW of West Germany is the DR. V. VENKATESH: If he is so financing party which is giving us the aid to sincere, let him come forward to face tbe get this equipment. All that has been gone Committe!!. This is my question. [am into. that question comes, I will When asking the same question. If he is so answer that part also.' sincere, let the matter be entrusted to an There is no need to confuse these two inquiry committee of Parliament. issues. About Bucket Wheel Execavator accident, compensation will be paid to the SHRI VASANT SATHE: I beg to sub. persons concerned. Action has been taken mit that the Hon. Member need out get so against' those who were found responsible. ex cit cd , We bre sincere ' .. DR. V. VENKA TESH : He has been DR. V. VENKATESH : I am excited giving this answers for quite some time. because they have been mis.using tbe The same answer is getting repeaterl. money of tbe country. SHRI VASANT SATHE: The same question, the same answer. Consistency SHRI VASANT SATHE: I am more with the question and consistency witb tbe c~ncerned with the mls-use of the money. answer. I am responsible for using of the money. NbvBMBBll is, 1986 Oral Answ,r, 8
MR. SPEAKER : No debate. You put SHRt P.. KOLANDAIVELU: Sir. tbe supplementary. Neyveli Lianite Corporation is situated in South Arcot district. I know fully wen DR. V. VENKATESH: A number of the hone Minister has been to the inaugural Hon. Members also raised the same issue, function of the Neyveli Lignite Corpo.. they have been raising the same issue again ration. He ~ has also participated in so and again. This is serious issue. I am many other functiocs. not excited. Sir. there is always power constraint in SaRI VASANT SATHE: I am as Tamil Nndu and on account of that indus sincere as you are. There is no question of tries are suffering a lot there. 1 have our colluding. If there is an collusion I already drawn the attention of the hone am afraid .. Minister by means of mention under Rule 377 with regard to South Areot district in putting up thermal plants with the aid of DR. V. VENKATESH: Then why USSR. Hon. Prime Minister and the don't you refer the matter to the PAC ~ President of USSR, Mr. Gorbo-chow bad talks with regard to installation of thermal MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. plants. We have requested for 3 termal plants of 210 MW each in South Arcot SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, the hone district with the aid of USSR. May I Member has not been properly briefed by know whether there is a proposal and when whosoever is briefing him. are you going to implement it ~
(Interruptions) SHRI VASANT SATHE: There is no proposal that we are posing for any thermal SHRI SURESH KURUP: Sir, this is plant to the US~R. not fair. How can he say that somebody briefs the Member and he comes here with SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU : We have a briefing. (Interruptions) written to You in this respect.
MR. SPEAKER: Please do not get SHRI VASANT SATHE: You might excited all the time. There is no harm in have written to us but at present there is briefing otherwise how will you get the no proposal. As far as thermal projects facts. are concerned the major need is coal. Un less we can find proper linkage of coal for (Interrupt ions) thermal projects it cannot be taken up. So, we are examining it. MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Member may take his seat. I do not like that. SHRI E. AYYA?U REDDY: What There is no aspersion. It is not meant as was the compelling reason for calling fo~ an aspenion. It is not an aspersion. If global tenders 1 Was the indigenous indus it is an aspersion I will take action. Please try incapable of supplying the ':quipment do not waste time of the House. You which was called for 1 always mis-behave. It is improper on your part to do like this all the time. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Yes the indigenous industry is not ca pable of S~PP1Y. ing the equipment that is called for and AN HON. MEMBER: As it involves that is why global tenders were necessary. tenders so we want this matter to be referted to the Parliamentary Committee. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Was any attempt made to find from the indigenous MR. SPEAKER: He is 'llso respon industry ..• sible. He has given the answer and I am satisfied with the answer. MR. SPEAKER: Next question. 9 Orai A"sw~rs KARTiKA 21, 1908 (SAKA.) Orat .Answers 10
Boost to Energy Production 2. Government is also providing a from Don-Conl'entiona) Sources number of fiancial and fiiscal ,incentives both to users and manuf"cturer~ for greater *213. DR. 0 S. RAJHANS ': WilJ the exploitation of these sources. These include Minister of ENERG Y be pleased to state : financial assistance in the from of subsidy, turn.key job fee etc. The fiscal incentives (a) the proposals made up-to-date to include enhanced depreciation allowance on provide a boost to the producion of energy plants and machineries, exemption from from non-conventional and renewable custom duty on the import of certain equip sources in the country; and ments and exemption from Central Excise Duty in many cases. A nunlber of State (b) to what extent the problem of steep Governments have also provided exemption energy crisis in the country is be ing met under the State Sales Tax. Financial assis through these sources? tance to the industry and user is also avai lable on soft~term basis from financial insti. tutions. As a result of these measures the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI use of-coQventional energy sources has been VASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b). A state given a marked boost during the recent few ment is geven below. years.
Statement 3. With a view to giving further boost The GO\iernmet of India is taking a to the alternate sources of energy the number of steps to boost the production. Government has also de-licensed from tile of energy from non-conventional and rene scope of Industrial Development and Regu wable sources in the country. In addition lation Act, 1951, a number of items for the to supporting research and development manufacture of these systems. There is a activities, Government is also implementing propasal under the consideration of the extension progranlmes for production of Government to set up an autonomous energy throu~h non-conventional energy agency to finance viable projects in this technologies which have become viable, e.g., arra on a wider scale This will help in under the National Programme for Biogas stre19kthening the industrial infrastructure in Development, familY based biogas plants t he country. are being installed on an increasing scaJe throughout the country. Improved Chulhas 4. The utilisation of nonwcoventionaJ with thermal effi;icncy of more than, 20 % energy sources .is helping to mitigate energy are being propagated, especially in rural shortages. 'fhe various non-c,onventional areas. A Solar Thermal Extension Pro· energy systems installed already have the gralnme has been intitiated on the basis of energy production/saving potential of about low and medium temperature technology 238_ 80 crores pcr year equivalent. developed under the Solar Thermal Research Greater boost can be given if greater finan and Development programnle such soJar cial allocations are made for non-conven devices are now being used both for domes t ional energy sou fees. tic and industri.al purposes. A plant for generation of electricrty through incine ration of cLy g(abage has been set up in s. There is at present about 9.6 % Delhi. Electrification of remote and shortage in the a v~ila bilhy of power to inaccessible areas is being taken up through nleet the requirements. The steps taken Solar Photovoltalc systems. A programme by the Ocwernment to meet this and other for decentralised integrated village 'evel energy shortage include, interalia, expedi. rural energy projects (Urja Grams) based on ting commissioning of new capat;ity in the a combination or non-conventional energy different energy sectors. implementing short systems and devices is b:ing implemented. I!,estation projects, reducing tiaosmission The projects are conceived in terms of a and distribution losses. implementation of mix of energy producing devices and systenlS energy conservation and demand manage to meet the bUlk of energy requirements of ment and arranging transfer of energy from Sdected areas. surplus to deficit States. t 1 Oral Answers· NOVEMiiBR. 18, 1986 Oral Answers t 2
DR. G. S. RAJHANS : Sir, despite my generate energy from the waste in various best efforts I could not understand what the cities in the country. That proposal is Minister exactly means by items 4 and 5. there, but I do Dot know the exact amount My lQ is very poor. I will request tbe hon. in terms of money. Minister to explain in detail about items 4 and S. PROF N.G. RANOA: In view o.f the fact that agricultural workers, and especia.lly SHRI VASANT SATHE: Item 4 deals their w'Omen and adolescent children collect with utilization of non-conventional energy the cowdung anywhere and everywhere in sources. With the non-conventional energy the vB)uges where it is available, will the sources, we fulfil two types of need s. One Government c'Onsider the feasibility of help. is heat substitute. Basically in the rural ing them to frDm coop.!ratives among them areas what is needed by our people is fuel selves, among the backward clas"css, for cooking medium and that is what we depressed classes and help them to eatab supply through biogas and other methods. lish Inuch smaller gobar gas l'lan ts than That is most important. Another necd in what has been so far thought of, so that the rural areas which can be met by the they would be able to get some income by non-convi!ntional energy sources is of the Ciiale of manure as also the gas which electricity for 1ighting and for irrigation would be utilized either by themselves or punips etc. The three mediums which we other people? are using are solar, wind and gasifiers. Biogal) which comes from gobar gas mainly SHRI VASANf SATHE: This is a very is a fuel subgtitute and meets the heat good idea and suggestion and we are alrea requirement. That is what we have done. dy working on that For these poor people Uptil now, we have invested Rs. 230 crorC!i who coneet cowdung, who do not have in the last three years on our [lon-coven sufficient cowdung to have a biogas plant of tiona\ energy sources and per year we get their own, we are having a scheme of substitute in terms of heat and also fertili community biojJas plant, where all of "them zers to the ext ent of about Rs. 238 crores. can collect the cowdung, and we supply to That is how useful the non-conv~ntional these homes th e gas .that is manufactured energy sources are. But as the House out of this. This we have found very useful knows, the total investment made in the in tribal areas and backward areas. field of non-conventional energy sources has been very limited as against the conven MR. SPEAKER: The 'One that was tional sources, where we have installed started in 'ny village is not completed for 47000 megawa Us of caplcity with Rs. the last three year ~ 50)00 crorcs of investments. Here, the main thrust was given about four years ago and the entire investmnnt is Rs. 240 crores. SHRI VASANT SATHE Is it not Much more need~ to be done. We have functioning Sir? six lakhs biogas plants and improved chuhlas to the extent" of 26 lakbs. We have MR. SPEAKER: No. It was not even yet to do a substantial amount of work, but completed. it will depend or the resource mobil ization. That is what I have explained. SHRI K. P. SINGH DEO: India lives in the villages and her population is 7S0 millions. I would like to know whether DR. O. S. RAJHANS : Is the hone any steps have been taken to explore the Mini~ter aware of the energy generated by possibili!y of usins the human manure as the Sulabh Shauchalaya method? If so, bio-mass :onversion gas, as in China. can the same be experimented in the neigh bourhood 'Of Delhi 1 SHRI VASANT SATHB : Yes Sir. We are doing that. SHRI V~SANT S \THE : As far using the waste in the c1ty~ which inc'udes the SHRI ANANDA GAJA'PATHI RAJU : human waste also, we arc having plants in Investment in non-conventi'Onal energy is Del hi also. Weare setting up plants to small and it is only to the tune of Rs. 200 KARTJ.KA 27 t 1·908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14
crores and the CGDver,ted megawatts is also saRI H. M. PATEL: It is easy for tbe a very ,sma,)) laure. Will it be increased ~ bon. Minister to say that 1 failed in provi. In this connection, I would like to propose ding more. Why does not he become wiCie this. Why does not the Union Government DOW and provide more ? CODsider utilisiDI the Coastal Andhra for starting wind mills and all that, 80 that ther e SHRI VASANT SATHE: I say Sir. could be more energy generated to meet now tha t the wisdom is flowing, we will try our requirements? Because it a yast sea to utilise it. We are already doina ..• coast, would the Government consider this proposal? (Interruptions)
SHRl VASANT SA.THE: We' atrady [Translation] have one windmill farm which we have set up on that coa,t. We have set up windmill MR. SPEAKER Better late tban farms practically on all sides from Oujarat never. down and this side as wen. There is a good potential for windmill energy in this SHRI VASANT SATHE: Yes Sir. country. We want to utilise it fully. Again, as I said, resource is the main thing and it rEnglish] is for the Parliament to give more reSou MR SPEAKER: Next question. Shri rces. As we get more resources, we will Jaya Mohan. Is he absent? Shri Gurudas have more windmills, Kamat. No '? How nlany absentees are there today? Absentes galore. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Mr. Speaker Sir, the hon. Minister says that the allotment [Transla t Ions] for non-conventional energy is very small. What prevents the Government from alloca Exploration olOil and Gas in ting larger sums when it is realised that the Rajasthan thermal energy and other sources of regular and convl!ntional forms of energy are wast *216. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER ing ? It is not time now that you do allot JAIN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM greater sums of money and see to it that AND NATURAL GAS be please to state : there is greater decentralisa tion of energy generation, which is only possible if you (a) whether the pace of exploration of take recourse to non-conventional sources of energy 'l Rs. 40 crores was all that was oil aDd gas in border and desert areas of Rajasthan by the Oil and Natural Gas provided last year. Why cannot Ri. 400 Commission and the Oil India Litnited is crores provided ? be very slow; MR. SPEAKER: The Finance Ministry comes in the way. (b) whether the Oil India Limited has not started its drilling work so far and the SHRI VASANT SATHE: 1 agree with Oil and Natural Gas Commission is using ,the hon. Member. When he was the only one drilJiog machine and is Dot increa Finance Minster, hardly anything was allo aing the number or machines; cated for nOn·convention sources of energy ? (c) if SOt the reasons therefore; and (Interruptions) (d) the steps taken/proposed to accelerate the pace of exploration in Rajas SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY Is it than 'l relevant' [English] SHRI VASANT SATHE We will definitely benefit by his wisdom. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTR. Y OF PETROLEUM AND PROF. K. K. TEWARY : Non-conven NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : tional ',wiaOom. (it) to (\l). Exploration in Rajast,~an 15 Oral A.nswer, NOVEMBBR 18, 1986 Or41 An,w." 16 is being carried out according to plan. Rs. 60 crores are likely to be spent. The ONGC propose .to deploy 3 rigs in 1987.. 88 expenditure to be incurred by the Oil India as against one rige in 1986.87. Oil also Ltd., is not included in it. propose to start drilling in Rajasthan in 1987.. 88 witb a charter hired rig. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Just now it was mentioned that the gas bas [Translation] been found. We are ready to use that sa8 for power generation. The planning SARI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Commission bas given sanction for gas Mr. Speaker, Sir, in Rajasthan ONOC as based power plant in Ramgarh in Jaisalmer well as Oil India Ltd., have been carrying but "Il ork has be~n hampered due to t, on.. out exploration. ONOC has been working availability of gas at concessiona) rates. there for the last Sf years. but its pace of If you provide us gas at reduced work is quite slow. During these S years, ratest we are ready to utilise it. Durirg in spite of my repeAted requests, only one the tenure of Shri Naval Kishor Sharma, drilling machine has been operating there. the Oil India Ltd. had ordered the purchase I want to know the places where ONGC of a drilling machin"e. What are the has drilled wells during the last five years bottlenecks in that purchase and what is and what has been the achievement as a its prescnt position? result thereof'1 How much gas and petrol bas been found or is likely to be found '1 SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: We come What is their future programme about into the picture after a gas based power accelerating the drilling work so that by plant bas been sanctioned by the Planning 1990 they are able to complete the work Commission and the Energy Ministry. of drilling to know about the quantum of gas and petrol likely to be found? SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: You have already received it. You are SHRI BRAHMA DUTT : I had obstructin"g the project. submitted that so far ONGC has been working with one rig. In 1987 .. 88 these SHRI BRAHMA DUTT : If you have will be increased to three. So ONGC has the funds, we can clear it. done seismic survey in Rajasthan. 7659 NK and 3400 FM 20 exploratory wells SHRI MOHD. AYUB KHAN: Mr. have been drilled. I do not have the Speaker, Sir, the ruins speak of the location of these wel1s readiJy with me. edifice. The plateau and the deserts of Oil India Ltd. has also been working here. Rajasthan tell us that once thers was sea They too have done seismic surveys but no here. Keeping in view the above position, wells have been drilled by them. Rs. S2 will the hone Minister tell as to whether crores by the ONGC and Rs. 25 crores survey work is goitg to be undertaken in by the Oil India Ltd., have been spent Jhunjhunu and Sikar also which is quite an but oil has not been fount there so far. important region, as 90 per cent people However, in Menahara Tibba gas in sub of this region are serving in the Armed stantial quantity has been found. We arc Forces. trying-and in this the hone Member can heJp us-to persuade the Rajasthan State SHRI BRAHMA DUTT : I have not Electricity Board to use this gas for been able to understand as to what can generating power. In another place i.e. be the connection beetween twof Sir. in RohtaJ, gas was found in 1983 but its calorific value is less. We want to u&e MR.. SPEAKER: The men in the that gas for extraction of heliunl. The hone Armed Forces will become strong witb Member bas asked about the future pro the oil massage. gramme. lhis year ONOC wiU make a seismic survey there and drill three mor~ SHRI RAM SINOH YADAV: Mr. wells at a depth of 42 thousand metres. Speaker, SIr, the Rajasthan Government We are going to instal three more riSs has offered to instal a gas-based power there. Durin, the Seventb Five Year Plan plant in Ram,arh wbich will pnerte 10 17 0 ral Answers KAanKA 21, 1908 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 megawatt power. The entire scheme has DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Why? been submitted to you by the Rajasthan (Interruptions) . If only members from Government but your MinistrY has not so Rajasthan C3n ask questions, then this is for cleared it. You nre saying tbat the most unfortunate. project has not been cleared due to large amount to be invested on it. Rajasthan (Interruptions) Government wants to use the gas origina ting from there for the purpose o~ [Translation] generating power 80 that the shortage of power could be removed and the needs MR. SPEAKER: You may ask another of the farmers and the industries could be question about Assam and I will admit met. When shri Nawal Kishore Sharnta that. was incharge of the Petroleum Department, some action was taken to implement tbis (Interruptions) scheme. I want to know whether you will clear this scheme immediately so that the MR. SPEAKER: T he question was gas-based power ~eneration plant could be for Rajasthan. Therefore, there was no installed there and several problems could use Jooking towards you. be solved with tha t 1 [EnglisllJ SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: I have Tapping of Hydro-Electric Power From alreadY submitted that this matter is being Small Rhulets considered in consultat ion with Rajasthan Government. We are still discussing the matter. We also want that gas based *21 8. DR. K.G. ADIYODI: Win power generation plant should be installed the Minister of ENERGY be pJeased to there very soon. state :
SHRI ' RAM SINGH Y ADAV : (a) whether hYdro-clectnic power can Rajasthan Government has sent the entire be tapped from small rivulets; scheme to you. You may ask your Ministry about that position. The scheme "b) if so, whether Government have is under your consideration. made any attempt to tap this energy with mini-power projects; DR. SPEAKER: You are dragging the question too far. (c-) if nct, whether Government have ever conducted a study on this and the [English] estimated quantity of power that could be DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: I want tapped from this source, to ask a question on this. (d) whether Government propose to MR. SPEAKER: No. implement any such schem~ in Kerala: if so, \\hen; and DR. KRUPASINDHU BROI : This is not a State matter; this is a central (e) if not, the reasons therefor? mattel'. THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE MR. SPEAKER: But it concern DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Rajasthan. He will not be able to answer it. MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHI LA ROHATAOl): (a) p erel1niaJ DR. KRUPASINDU BHOI: Can I not hill streamslirrigation canals, where small ask a question? faUa ate available, lend fhemselves to possi bilities of mini/micro hydroelectric deveJop. MR. SpeAK):R: No. ment. 19 Oral Arrswers ·NOVEMBER 1S, 1986 Oral Alls'itrS 20
(b) Micro/mini/small hydroelectric when successful-and we are hopeful that schemes are currently being cxec..uted under they will be successful---they '~an be tak en the State Plans. Schemes of a total capacity up and demonstrated in ather Stales so of about 18 S MW are being implemented that they can al~() take them up. at present while those of a total capacity of about t 71 MW are already in operation. I do not think that there is a need for a survey of KeraJa or that any study as (c) As a result of the surveys made necessary. from time to time, suitable sites have and are being identified in different States for PROF. N. G RANOA: It is being the exploitation of microlminifsmal1 hydro done in lapan on a large scale. electric potential. ,DR. K. G. ADIYODI: In reply to (d) and (e). Four su~h schemes have parts (d) and (e) of my question, it has been approved for implementation in the been said that four schemes ht!ve been State Plan of Kerala. approved for implementation in the State of Kerala. May I know tbe names of those DR. K. o. AOIYODI: Kerala is four schemes? mainly dependent on hydroelectric power. Due to erratic monsoon every Year, all the industries are suffering. For the last 3·4 SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATAGI : years, we are not having su~cien~ electri The four schemes of KcraJa which haVe city and agricultural productlon, mdustry, been sanrtioned are, Mallampuzha, Madbu .. eve;y production sect or is in soup. Will patty-they arc so sweet and musicaJ the gov.;rnment be pleased to conduct a sounding names, I have to say-Chlmoni study to augment electricity from nivul to Dam Toe and Peppara Dam. They beJong It is stated that it is the duty of the State to this category, where we find that the Government. Will the government consti .. totul installed capacity which bas been tute a body to .conduct a survey so as to sanctioned for implementation by in is augment electricity &upply by hYdro-electric there, - these are the (our which have been projects-mini and micro projects? sanctioned.
SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATAOl: SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA It is unfortunate that because of their RAO: A number of mini hydle schemes erratic monsoon, there has been a shortfall have been proposed by the Government of in the fain fall and Kelal.l had to undergo Andhra Pradesh and I would like to know some suffering because of that. But, as W6 the Jatest stage in respect of implementation say, at the time of distress, ~ome othel of the various schemes in Andhra Pradesh, States have been rushing assIstance to Kerala in order to heJp the State to over .. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: The come this distress. But, so far as micro· question is only for Kerala. mini and other schemes are concerned, as 1 have said, some of these schemes. are already included in that. In addition to MR> SPEAKBR: Do not unnccess. that regarding that~ some steps have been arily rub in, Dr. Bhoi. I am not discri. tak;n recently. So, while it is a State minating. subject, but the State can take up any scheme of its own if the estimate of that DR. KRUPASI'NDHU BROI: I am scheme is uPto Rs. 5 .crC'res. Up to that not accusing. up to Rs. 5 croces, the State can take up any scheme on its own and it does not have to come for any concurrence or con .. MR. SPEA.KER ~ 1 know what 1 am finnation or clearance from anybody. doing.
Apart from that also; some model scheme AN HON. MEMBER: Andbra is ver1 are being taken up by the N.H.P.C. whicb near to Kerala. 21 Dral Answers 1{ARTIKJ\ 21, 1908 (SArA) . Oral Answers .22
SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAOI: In SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI : This Andhra Pradesh, among the schemes which question relates to generation ~f hyde) ate under appro\'aJ, there are two schemel power. I would like to know whether there and the aggregate capacity of those has been any study or survey made about' schemes will be-totai-l ,350 KW. 1'hal the additional hyde] power potential in the is the only detail I have got now. existing hydel power ptojccts. If 80, what is the outcome of it? Generation of hydle THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI power being cheaper and the infrastructure VASANT SATHE): I may add, that alreadY having been there, what steps Government in op~ration there arc two schemes in arc t~kjng to add Dew units to the existing Andhra Pradesh which are producing hydel power projects? 10,220 KW aggregate. SHRI VASANT SATHE We are SHRI THAMPAM THOMAS: My considering all these potentia]s. It is question is that, that there is a technology aJways advantageous to augment the power just now developed, especially in Kerala, in potential in the existing project and it cJnsultation with tbe Canadian elperts and becomes chea per. Where there is such a 1 was told that the Canadian expetts have possibility, we consider it very favourably. extended certain h:lp by way of grant and also they will provide the machinery and they are doing proje.cts in Idukki and SHRI DINESH GOSW AMI: The KQQyankutty. They have entered into some Minister has replied that it is the primary agreement and have started these projects rcsponsibHity of the State Government. But for exploring the country's small reservoirs many State Governments may not have the and generating power in a small way and technical knowhow to carryon witb these to help the State. I would like to know projects. Therefore, may I know whether what the attitude of the Central Government the Government has any proposal to be in is towards this proposal of the State liaison with the Stale Governments and in Governmen t getting aid from or assistance coordination with them so that the techni from foreign collaborations and certain cal knowhow of these projects can be giVen grant or loan or some thing like that. What to the State Governments to enable them to is the aititude of the Government, are you take help of these projet.ts ? promoting it, and do you permit such scbemes if the Kerala Government comes SHRI VASANT SATHE: Y"s, Sir. We forward with such proposals and what is will give all the technical assistance to any the attitude which you are adopting State Government that wants to take up towards that ? mini, micro and small hyde} projects on its own. SHRI VASANT SATHE: As I had said earlier, also, any proposal of bilateral Purchase of Sub-Standard Medicines assistance from any country would be most by Delhi Electric Supply Undertaking welcome to augment the power supply in this country and installation of powerplanls. + As (ar as mini, micro and small hydel pro ·221. SHRI DHAR~M PAL SINGH jects are concerned, as my colleague said, MALIK: tbey are within the State Governments' SHRI KALI PRASAD purview and jurisdiction. In fact there is a PANDEY: tremendous scope in this country to exploit these resources and we will be very happy if the State Governments come forward Will the Minister of ENERGY be with these mini, micro and small hyde) pleased to state: projects on a big scale. Any assistance from anywhere if it is coming, it would be (a) whether a number of Members of most welcome. If it requires to be ParHament have made written complaints sudstantiated by financial clmlrance from about the pUtch~se of sub·standard the Centre, etc., etc., we will consi der medicines by Delhi Electric Supply Under them on merits. takins; 23 Oral Ahsw,'s NOVBMBEit 18, t 986 Oral An~wers 24
(b) if so, tbe contents of the complaints; SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH and MALIK: As stated by the bon. Minister, investigat ion has already been conducted by (c) whether any inquiry bas since been the Vigilance Department. May I know conducted and if so, the action taken against from the hon. Minister whether any employee the persons responsible for purchase of sub has also been found involved in this matter '1 standard medicines ? If so, what action is being taken against that employee, who is guilty in this matter or who has not checked sub-standard quality THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE or short supply of medicines '1 DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (b) if so, the details thereof? studies have to be made. Two hundred industrial units have alreadY been taken 1HE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE up for study by the Nation'll Productivity Council; There study is being examined. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENER.GY (SHRIMATI A Working Group has been set up. We are SUSHILA ROHTAOI): (a) and (b). Action conscious of the need for energy audit in bas been initiated for undertaking energy tDis country. audits in selected energy inten~ive industries. SHRI MURLI DEORA: I would only request the hon. Minister th::t he should The Bureau of Industrial Costs and not waste any more time in the ~~udies. Prices are conducting such studies in some The Reports are already clear. Severa) major energy intensive industries. The Reports of NPC and BICP themselves afC National Productivity Council has also been pending before the Government. My second entrusted with c~ergy audits in sixteen supplementary to the hon. Minister is that industries. tbe reason for energy audit is·to streamline the efficient workins of industries. One of SHRI MURLI DBORA: Sir, as per the biggest units of the Department of reports, developed ,countries throughcut Power is NTPC. Is thc hon. Minister aware the world have drastically reduced their that the work ing of NTPC itself is having energy con~lUmption by introducing this so much trouble because they have to go system of energy audit and the Minister of through LEA and the C.A. has to go to Industries and other Ileads of Departments the Department of Power 1 Why don't are making such statements all over India. they centralise th.! decision· making in one I do not know why the Government feel it depar~meni rather than having three Or four necessary for the BICP to study this. Why clearing and implementing agencies for don't thc} make it inunediately compulsory several power projects? for intensive energy consuming industries like aluminium. cement, etc. to have compulsory energy audit? SHRI VASANT SATHE It is a "very good suggestion. We will consider it. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): Sir, I agree with my SHRI P. NAMGAYAL: Mr. Speaker; friend that conservation of energy is as Sir, the hon. Minister has stated just now important, and evm more important than that there is a move about to conserve the production of energy beca use energy con energy. In this regard I ,,:ould like to say served is energy produced without cost. that in most of the rural areas the Depart Therefore, we are very keen that there ment is not installing electric meters with should be this whol e atmosphere of energy the result the people keep their lights on constrvation in the country. As was throughout. So, I would like to know stated by the late Prime Minister once when whether the Government wi)] make it she asked a question that whether you compulsory to use meters in a11 the rural switch off the light when you leave a parti areas so that much of the eOfrgy could be clllar place, that sort of an attitude must conserved. come in our whole society. SHRI V ASANT SATHE :' This is a As far as energy audit is concerned, we little compli~ated qUestion. There bas have now started studies in our country been opposition from people using energy both through audit ••. (In terruptions) in rural areas for pullin g in meters. But 1 think, if meters are put tha. t will be of SHRI MURLI DEORA: It is already advantage even to the ~onsumers of electri proved. city and will help in saving energy. SHRI VASANT SATHE: It is proved [ Tron~/arionJ but the question is, like in otb~r countries SHRI BENWARI LAL PUROHIT: to make it mandatory by Jaw. Before w; Mr. Speaker, Sir. the hon. Minister has bring in a law' or a ,legal measure, some also conceded that tbere are large scalc 2"1 Oro I Answers .NOVE.MBBR 18, 1986 oraJ Answers 28 transmission losses in our country. There AN HON. MBMBER : He is lOod. fore, 1 would like to know tbat before introducing compulsory audit for the ~HRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI: industries, what efforts are being made by Even if the losses cannot be' made up fully, the Government to minimise transmission effort must be made. Several meetings lo~ses '1 have been arranged in this connection and effort has been. made to discuss the issue SHRI VASANT ~ATHE: About with the States and certa.in suggestions transmission losses I side what it is a lood were made therein that if our technical wOld for theft. organisations are not able to stop trans mission losses and distribution losses, at f Engli~h] least thefts may be checked adequately. In this connection a proposal has come for Actua:l1y it is a theft. Technical loss ward and I feel that with the introduction is hardly 10% to 12 %. of our new scheme, transmission losses and theft will be reduced somewhat. [Translation) [EngIi5h] But the 21 per cert transmission 10ss- Proposal to take over TUagarh Paper [English] Mills -is mainly on account of theft. That (W*103. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARJA: is why we h.lve passed the law in both the Will the Mihister of INDUSTRY be pleased Houses and I am .....•... to state: (a) whether Union Government have ( Trans la t ion 1 received any proposal from the Gove~nment MR. SPEAKER: It is not theft, it is of West Bengal for taking over Titagarh robbery. Paper M ills; and (b) if so, what steps Government have SHRI VASANT SATHE: Yes, it is taken in this regard 1 robbery. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [English] DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Under that law we hope we will be able DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF to nab the people who are responsible for INDUSTRY SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: Sir, SHRI . BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTy: :. the Guidance Committee has suggested They are attempting to d~clare lock-out various measures. Firstly they have sugges that unit. Do you have any information, ted to hand over the management of this and if so, what i. the reaction 'I miJl to some· private management. Efforts were made to interest Bome of the large SHR} M. ARUNACHALAM: I have houses to take OVer the nlanagement of the no information so far. complny. This. however, did not meet any fruitful result. Subbequen tly, a rehabilitation scheme was also worked SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: out by lOBi based on closure of mill No.2 Kindly check UP. and operation of mnls No.1 and 3~ The scheme envisaged inducation of a new SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, I am promoter who would be agreeable to invest sure tbe Minist er is aware of the fact that equity funds to the order of Rs. 10 crores the Titagarb Paper Mills company was one in 'he rehabilitation programme. of tbe prestigious units in this paper industrY which had a good name not only The rehabilitation scheme was conside in this country but in export markets al&o red at the Guidance Committee meeting for making various quality brands of paper. held on May 28, 1986 when it was ""er H~ said,. as I understood him. they arc 31 Written Answer" NOVEMBER. 18, 1986 Wrllte" AnsI",rl . 32 looking for big industrial bouses to take (a) the reasons and justification for over. It was one of these big industrial buyinS cdtbl, , Oils from foreian countries houses, Burn and CompanY, which. was in at cheap rates but selling them at hiSh charge of Titaiarh Paper Mills, which was price within the country; responsible for bringing it into the present position and making it si ck and then, (b) whether it is proposed to cut down locking up. So, I would like to know the high prices of edible oils; and froro the Minister, in view of the paper seartage this countrY particularly. why in (c) if not, the reasons thereof? should the Central Government not be more interested in getting these units back into operation so that production of scarce paper THE MINISTER OF PARLIA. M·ENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER ca~. be. resumed, instead of looking for OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI some another big house to come .and take H.K L. DHAGAT): '(a) the issue price it over '1 Have they no interest in the of imported edible oils··' is kept at a reaSOD paPftr production '1 ab~e level because keeping the sale price at a low level will depress indigenous oil SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: Sir, as prices unduly and will act as a disincentive it is, there is no shortage of paper, at to domestic production which necds to be ptesent. increased to achieve Governmept's policy of self-sufficiency. The wide gap between prices of imported and indigenous edible I have already answered that if the olis might alsQ run the risk of malpractices Government of West Bengal come forward as imported edible oils may leak into with the Gujurat formula, we are prepared unauthorised channels. to assist them. (b) No, Sir. SHRI c. MADRA V REDDI: The hon. Min ister has said that t he scheme of (c) The reasons are given in (a) above. rehabilit'ltion by the IRBI is in progress. I would like to know in 'view of the fact Cooking Gas for Rural Areas that there is a paOVlSlon in the Sick Companies Act which was recently enacted *206. SHRI H. B. PATIL: Will by this House that if an industrial house the Minister of PETROLEUM AND bas made the industry sick, you can NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : prosecute the industrial house for siphoning of the funds and making the industry sick. (a) whether Government are a ware that people living in urban areas have been H'lS Government taken any action under it ? benefited systematically so far as the question of cooking gas is concerned whereas the peoper living in rural areas have been SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: The deprived of this facility; Board has not yet been constituted. As so on as the Board is con'ltituted, tbe formali (b) jf so, whether Government have ties will be framed. framed any scheme to give this focility to the people, particularly Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes and other weaker WRITTEN ANSWER TO QUESTIONS sections of society, living in tbe rural areas; and [English] (c) if so, the details in this regard? Seiling Price of Imported Edible Oils THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE *205. SHRI BHARAT KUMAR MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ODEDRA: Will the Minister of FOOD NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to (a) Historically, LPG was introduced as a state: dOPlCSlic fuel in major tOWDS close to 33 Wrllttn A",w,,., KARTIKA 21, 1908 (SAKA) Wrltttli Answers 34 . R,·dineries producing ['PO. For various THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB reasons, the coverage, is stil) Jarlely oriented MINISTRY OF 'PETROLEUM AND towards the urban areas, altbough, wJth 0 NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DlJTT) : increased availability of LPG and related (8) 30.17 million tonnes. facilities, it is being supplied now in some smaller towns with 8 population of around (b) 30.21 million tonnes. 20,000 also. . (c) Yes, Sir. (b) N,o, Sir. Manufacture of Cbarcoal (c) Doe4i not arise. *209. SHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD [Translation} YOGBSH: Will the Minister of ENERGY Recommendations or Economic Administra be pleased to state: tion Reforms Commission for Autonomy to Public Sector (a) whether charcoal is being manu factured illegally by contractors t in the *207. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : jungles of Bihar, particularly in the region Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleas~ of Chhota Nagpur; and to state: (b) if so, the steps ta ken by Govern (a) whether Government have now ment to prevent such activities 1 received the recommendations of the Bcono mic Admini~tration Reform~ Commission TIlE MINISTER OF ENERGY ,SIIRI for ~ivinl autonomy to the public sector; VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Charcoal is not a mineral and is manufactured out of (b) if so, the details thereof and firewood., The subject comeS within the whether Government have considered those purview of the State Governnlent. recommendations; and Salal Hyde) Project (c) if so, the conclu~ions arrived at and if not, the reasons therefor 1 *211. SHRI DIGVIJAY SINH: SHRI S. M. GURADDI : THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO) : (a) to ~c). A statement is laid on the Table of ,the Will the Minister of ENBRG Y bo House. pleased to state : [Placed in Library. See No. LT-3147/86) (a) for how many years the Salal Hydel Project in Jammu and Kashmir has been [English] under construction; Outpat of Crude Oil (b) the causes for the delay; and *208. SHRI HARI KRISHNA SHASTRI: Will the Minister of PETRO (c) the escalation in cost due to the LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased delay? to state : (a) the output of crude oil in the Tan MINISTER 'OF STATE IN'THE count~ in the last financial year; DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (b) tbe tarlet of production set f~r this SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The year; and Salal Hydroelectric Projcct was initially approved as a State Project at an estimated (c) whether the target is Hkely·to be 'cost of Rs. S S.l oS crores. It was taken up achieved ? in the Central Sector in 1970 and latOti' 35 Written Ans,wers NOVEMBER. 18, 198,6 "',lit,,, A"awer, 36 entrusted for implementation to tbe Natio nal Hydroelectric Power Corporation 1 2 3 (NHPC) in 1978. The Project earlier envisaged installation of a generating 3. Larji 126 572 capacity of 270 MW which was in creas~d to 345 MW by shifting of tbe 4. Sanjay Vidyut pc-wer bous~ rrom the l~ft bank to the rigbt Pariyojana so bank. Difficult and unanticipa ted' geo (Bbaba Au gmen. technical strata in the foundation of the tation) concrete dam, geological surprises and Yet to be Cleared by eEA presence of major shear zones surcharged with water in the tail race tunnel have, 1. Uhl St. III 70 28S among other factors, necessitated revision 2. Ganwi 22.S 93 of the time schedule and to costs. The cost of the project, as approved in August 1 3. HoB S 25 28 1983,is&s. 490.45 crores~ 4. Sal.II 2.1S 11 All major works are now in an advanced stage of completion and tbe project is Soft Drink Market scheduled to be commissioned in March, 1987. *214. SHRI A. JAYAMOHAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Setting up of Hyde) Projects io state: Himachal Pradesb (a) what is the current market share *212. SHRI K. D. SULTANPURI: and position of the aerated soft drink Will the Min iSler of ENERO Y be pleased market, particularly the reE,pective market to state: shares held by the top two Or three companies; a.nd (a) the broad outlines of the schemes received from the Governnlent of flimachal (b) 'whether it is a fact th'it a number Pradesh for setting up of Hydel projects in of sma)) bottlers have been forced out of tbe Stale; and business over the last 10 years due to monopoly situation in the industry '1 tb) the total electricity to be generated from those projects '1 THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR Y (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) Informa tion on the number units functionin'g in THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of tbe crganised sector and with the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE registered MINlSTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMA'TI DGTD was given in the House in reply to SUSHILA ROHTAGl): (a) and (b). Starred Question No. 14 answered on 22nd July, 1986. Information in regard to the _------"_'------market share of the companies, however, is Name of Scheme Installed Annual Energy not maintained in the Government. capacity generation envisaged envisaged (b) No Biuch information is available (MW) (in Million Uuh) with the Government. Awarding of Work of Filling of Mini 1 2 3 Gas Bottles to Private Sector \ Cleared by Central Electricity Authority *215. SHRt GURUDAS KAMAT : (CEA) SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: 1. Nathpa Jhakri lSOO 6700 2. Chamera Will the Minister of PBTROLEUM St. II 300 121'0 AND NATU~AL GAS be pleased to 8tato ; kAaTiKA 21. 1908 (SAKA> Writtell AnJwers :\8 (a) whether Government are contemp~ (a) whether there is any proposal latina to awa.rd the work: of filling of mini before Government to review the salary gas bottles to the private sector; and structure of Executives of PubHc Sector Undertakings to attract best talent in the (b) if so, the outlines of the proposal countiY; and and the reasons therefor '1 (b) if so, when wm the review be completed and given eff~ct to 1 THE MINISTER. OF STATa OF THE MINISTR.Y OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA PUTT): THE MINISTER. OF INDUSTRY (a) and \ b). The LPG Phase IV project (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) and (b). for augmentation uf bottling capacity and As far as executives below 'he Board level related facilities is presently und~r formu working in Public Enterprises (PEs) fo)Jow lation. The role of the oil marketing ins Centra) DA pattern are concerned , companies and the possibility of as,ociating Government had appoitncd a High Power the private sector will also be considered il) Pay Committee (HPPC) on the directors of the Supreme Court, to go into the various this exercise. aspects relating to p3y scales and other Finaneial Restrueturing of Engineering incidential matters sueh as additional DA, Projects (India) Ltd. int erim relief and other allowances. The Committee which is being reconstituted due *217. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will to the demise of its Chairman, Mr. Justice would the Minister of INDUSTR. Y be pleased to P N. Singhal, in October, 1986 be submitting its report to the Government state ~ within a period of 12 months from the date of assumption of office. Appropriate (a) wbether Government have received action would be taken by Government on proposal froro the Engineering Projects the recommendations of the HPPC. Salary (lndi~) Ltd. for its financial restructuring; structure of executives working in Public Enterprises folJowing tbe industrial DA (b) if so, the decision taken thereon; pattern and of the incumbents of Board level posts ate being reviewed by the (c) whctb-er the Ministry of Finance has Government. been consulted about the future econo mic viability of the unit; and , Waiting List for TeJepbone Connections in Rural Areas (d) if so, details thereof? ·220. SHRI A. CHARLES: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY pleased to state ~ (SHRl J. VENGALA RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) the total number of applicants for (b) to (d). Financial restructuring of tefephon"s in the waiting Jist in the rural the company would be considered by areas all 'over the country as on 1. 9.1986; Gov.crnment a after decision is taken regard· illl its future set-up, keepins in view all aspects including economic viability of the tb) the number in the rural waiting liat company. in the Kerah State; and Review of Salary Structure of Public (c) which Sta te has the highest percen Sector Executives tage i1'J the rural waiting list? ·219. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA SHRI T. BASHEER : TIONS (SHRI ARJUN SINOH) ; (a) The information is compiled twice a year vito Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be OD 31 st March and 30tb Sept ember. The pleased to state: waiting list in rural areas as on 31.3.1986 39 Written Answers NOVBMBER 18; 1986 Wrltt." Answers ,~o rs approximately 98,967 in respect of [English] existing exchanges. Locations \\bere ex Issue of Letters of Intent to West changes are not opened since minimum German based Mining Equipment registered demands of 10 under liberalised Manufacturing Companie5 pol icy do not' exist, are not included. *224. SaRI V.. SREENIVASA (b) The number in rural waiting list as PRASAD : Will the Minister of ENERGY or! 3\.3.86 is 30,022. be pleased to state: (a) whether quite a good number of (c) Kerala State has the hishest per letters of intent were issued during the centage in the rural waiting list. year 1986 to the West German based mining equipment nlsnufacturing companies· [Translation] and ' Bilateral Agreements for Hydel Projects (b) if so, the broad particulars there. of 'l *223. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI to state: VASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b). In the Lignite sector, five Letters of Intent wete (a) ;hcther there is a proposal to enter issued by Neyveli Lignite Corporation to into bilateral agreements with some West German mining equipment manu countries for the construction and develop. facturers during the year 1986. These ment of hydel projects; were for Spreaders (2 Nos). Belt Drum Transporters (3 Nos), Steel Cord Belting (b) if so, the names of such projects (20.6 kms), E.P. Belting (2400 metres) indicating the names of the countries wi lh and Milling and Cutting machine (1 No). which collaboration is proposed to be sought for construction of these projects; In the Coal sector, orders were placed on West German manufacturers for Auxiliary fans (12 Nos), Steel Cord (c) whethcr these bilateral agreements Belting (800 metres) multigas detectors and also incwde the proposal to cxploit hydel some small instruments during the Year capacity in the Sbarda Valley ill Uttar 1986. Pradesb; and Import of Captive Power Plants (d) if so, the details thereof? 2096. SHRI S. PALAKON· DRAYUDU : Will tbe Minister of THE MINISTE({ OF STATE IN THE INDUSTRY be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRlMATl (a) whether Union Government have SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (u) Yes, Sir. rejected an application by Andhra Pradesh State Electricity Board (APSEB) fo!' import of three 30 MW hyde1 aenerators (b, Schemes approved for bilateral for the Nagarjuna Sagar Project; and assistance are the Du\has\i and Tehri projects in respect of which assistance will be obtained from France and the 1.JSSlt ( b) if SOt the reasons therefor '1 respectively. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (c) There is no such proposal at DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINlSTRX OF present. INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. (d) Does not arise. CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. ... ' ..... Writte" Answers 41 (I) The app1i~ation has bee.n rejected (a) whether it is a fact tbat r.aw due to indiaenous availability of the materia1s such as alcohol, water etc, are equipm.ent from M'I s BHE·L. not supplied up to the requirements of tbe Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited Increase in Sick Units in West Bengal which bas a capacity to produce Ros. 200 crore worth of bulk drugs and formula 2097. KUMARI MAMATA tions : BANERJEB : Will the Minister of Industry be pJeased to state : (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and (c) the action proposed to be taken in f a) whether there has been a substantial the matter '1 increase in the number of sick industrial units in West Bengal; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (b) if &0, the number of smallscale, PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY medium scale and lalge scale industrial OF . 'INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. units which have fallen sick during the JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c).' last two years? I.D.P.L. have indicated that there had been shortage of supply of alcohol to both THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of their plants at Muzaft'arpur and DEPARTMENT OF JNDUSTRI~L Hyde((~bad during 1985-86 due to ,over-all DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF shortage of this item in the country. INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA However, presently there is no shortage CHALAM) : (a) and (b). Data on sick of alcohol and availability is as per require industria) units in the coun1ry assist-ed by ments. ban ks are collected by the Reserve Bank of India as per the definition of s,ckness Water supply to IDPL's Hydetabad adopted by it. The latest data of sick plant has not been sufficient. Due to units in West Bengal as available from fail ure of monsoon for the last three RBI for the years ending December 1983 successive years, the water supply position and December 1984 are' given here in the twin cities of Hyderabad and under: - Secunderabad has been critical. There has been 40 % cut in., the water supply with effect from Janu:lfY, 1985, which was Period Large Small Total furth't'r curtailed by restricting supply on ending Uni~s ScaJe alternate days with effect from 23.12.198 S. Units The availability of water to other units of IOPL is as per requirements. Deccnlber 1983 112 14165 14271 Shortage of Epilepsy Drugs December 2099. SHRI SRIKANTA DATfA 1984 118 13617 13135 NARA~IMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to . state: State-wise data are not being maintained in respect of medium units. , (a) whether there bas been seriou 8 . ,Complete State-wise data for the Year shortage of cquilepsy drugs in mapy ending December, 1985 are ~ot yet parts of the country in genera] and Delhi available from RBI. in particular; and . Non-Supply of raw Materials to I.D.P.L. (b) if so, the steps taken to meet the shOrtage of 'such drugs in Delhi and other important cities? 2098. SHRt R. P. DAS : Wilt the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND 4~ 1f,/t'M .4n3wera . NOVBMiJBil18., 1986 . Wrlii8n Auw". 44 PETRO.CHBMICALS IN THB MINISTRY Cost St.• , ofCqrolaeta. by B.l.C,.P. OF INDUSTIlY (SHRI It,· K. JAICHANOl\A SIl~GH): (a) Many 2. J 0 I. SHRI NIHAL SI:NOH JAIN : important Anti·Epileptic drugs Uke Dilantin W.ill ~he Minister of J'NDUSTR. Y be (MIs Parke-Davis), EpiJeptin (M'/s IDPL), p'ea$ed to state : Garoin (MIs May and Baker), Valparin . (MIs Torrent Labs.) are adequately (a) when the cost study of Caprolactum available. However. reports on shortage bad been undertaken by tho Bureau of of . Mazetol tablets have . been received Industrial Costs and Prices (BICP); from Delhi and other areas. (b) whether Government have ,inee (bl The producer company, MIs received the report rrom the Bureau; s. G. Pharmaceutical have informed that they bave now overcome the difficulties (c) action taken by Government on experienced in the procurement of bulk the report; and drug . 'Carbamezapine' required in the manufacture of Mazetol tablets and recent (d) whether Government propose to ly produced f)ufficient stocks. Based on reduce the price of Caprolactum 1 this Deptt's advice, the company has already rushed sufficient stotks to all parts THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE of the country including Delhi. DEPARTMBNT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY Banerjee Committee Report of working OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. of Dbarat Cokiog Coal Lim~ted JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) IflCP was asked to undertake the cost study of 2100 SHRI JAGANNATH caprolactum ~ May, 1985. flATTNAIK : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : (b) No, Sir. (a) whether Banerjee Committee let up (c) and (d). Do not arise. to examine the working C'f Bbarat Coking· Plakl to Sell Coarse Grains in Tribal Coal Limited has submitted its report; Areas (b) if so, the details of its recommen- . 2102. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: dations; and Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (c) the details of recommendations (a) whether it is a fact that Govern accepted by Government '1 ment bad initiated a plan last year to distribute wheat to rural areas particularly in the deep interior of tbe tribal belts ~ THE MINISTER OF ENBR.GY (SHRI @ Re. 1/- per leI., VASANf SATHE) : (a) Yes Sir. tb) if 80, whether tne scheme is beiDI (b) and (c). The Committee bas made monitored closely; about 170 recommendations! observations relatinl to production, productivity, (c) the State-wise break-up of tbe utilisation of machinery, manalemen,t. quantity of wheat sold under the scheme; project implementation, washeries, perspec and tive planning and Jharia Coalfield reconstruction, ropeways, fire projects, (4) whether Government are consideriol sand availability,' coal and sand any proposal' to sell coarse arains in transportation, finance, fire. land, power addition to wbeat @ B.e. 1/- per ItS. to 'etc. The report bas been forwarded to tribals who are habituated in takina India Limit.ed for their comments. coarse arains ? K.AkllkA 27, 191. (IAKA) TIIB MINISl'Ba ·Of STATE IN THE MINISTIlY 'OF POOD AND CIVIL 1 2. 3 SUPPLIBS (S8RI OMULA NABI AZAD) : -.---~----"."'---- (8) Tbe Go\,erattlent illltrodu.ced' 'last YeN" J 1. Megbalaya 14546 a scbeme for I\1pPty of foedlt'siDl It speetany 'subsidised prices to tbe people 12. N1Saaland ISSl1 liviOl in the Iotep'ated Tribal Develop. ment project areal ene the tribal Majority 13. Orissa 6'73 States. Under the scheme. wheat it d'il,tributed at Rt. 1.50 'per kg. aDd 14. Rajasthan 1419S1 commen rice at al. 1.85 per tl. 15. Sikkim (b) Yes, $ir. 16. Tamil Nadu 390 (c) The required inrormation is given 17. Tripura in the statement below. 18. Uttar Pradesh 4587 (d) No, Sir. 19 • 'West Bengal 119187 • Statement 20. Andeman and Njcobar 169 0lia", 01 wheat SttJtewise under 21. Arunachal Pradesh 2762 scheme for didrlbutldn of foodgrains at specially sllbsldized prices to 'he 22. D and N. Haveli 99 population living· in the integrated tribal development project areas and 23. Goa, Daman and Diu tribal ",.jorlty State& during the period from Dr-cember. 1 985 10 24. Lakahadweep 28 Stptember .. 1986. 25. Mizoram 204S S. No. Name of the Stato Qty .. In Total 657318 tonDes· ·Provisional 1 2 3 Settiag up of Compute'rised Telephone Exchanges to Andbra Pradesh 1. Andhra Pradesh 2103. SURI MANIK REDDY: Will 2. Assam 7001 the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be ple~ed to state: 3. Bihar 97112 4. Gu,iarat 94662 (a) the total number of computerised telephone elchanses in the country and in 5. Himachal Pradesh 5852 ~dhra Pradesh; 6. Karnataka t538 (b) whetb·er there is any proposal to let up electronic/computerised telephone 7. Kerala '664 excbanles at Medak. Josipet in ADdhta Pradesh; aud 8. Madbya Pradesh 90780 (c) if so, tbe details thereof? 9. Mabarasbtra 35261 THE MINISTER Of STATB IN THE 10. Manipur MINISTM.V OF COMMUNICATIONS 4'1 Written Aruw,r, ,NOVE·MBER 18,'1986 W,ltle" A".,."" 48 (SHRI SANTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) 64 by way of supply of equipment or execution (Sixty-f-our) computerised local/Tandem 011 tumkey basis with possibilities of finaJi telephone exchanges have sirlce been cing. These offers arc Dot always "or commissioned in the country and two of individual projects with spe~ific terms and them are working in Andbra Pr.adesh. conditions and some of them are prelimi nary in n~tute. To aUlment the a'vaila .. (b) No, Sir. bility of power, bilateral 8S1istanc:e u well as assistance from international financial institutions will continue (c) Does not arise in view of (b). to be resorted to in suitable cas"; primary reliance will, however. continue, to be Power ~roduction by Private placed on optimal utilisation of indigenous Sector resources both in the public and privltte sectors for attaining self-sufficiency in power 2104. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : supply. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Small packs of Imported Edible OUs (a) whether recently he has urged the private sector enter the field of producing. 2105. SHRIMATI MADHUREE power in the coun~ry; SINGH: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleastd to state: (b) if so, the response of the private (b) whether Srinagar is connected from (c) : A Statement is given below. these cities and not vice.versa; . Statement (c) if so, the reasons for one-way traffic? Statement showing the names 01 the Industrial Houses whose undertakings (lre THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE registered under MRTP Act cmd cross the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Rs. 100 crOles level in 1984. (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (,) Yes, Sir. 1. Bitla (bJ Srinagar has two-way telephone 2. Tata services to cities abroad. 3. J. K. Singhania (c) In view of (b) above, question does not arise. 4. Mafatlal Ranking of Industrial Houses 5. Thapar 2101. DR. B. L. SHAILBSH: Will 6. Reliance Textile the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : 7. A.C.C. 8. Modi (a) whether according to an official study made by his Ministry, the inter-se 9. Bangur ranking on the basis of large industrial houses has undergone a sea-change in the 10. Larsen Toubro I3-year period ending 1,84; It. Sarabhli (b) whether some of the industrial 12. Bajaj houses have staged a meteoric rise from the 67th rank in 1976 to 6th position by 1984; 13. I.C.I. if so, what are the special circumstances that resulted in their rise; and 14. Mahindra and Mahindra (c) whether a statement showing the 15. Shri Ram names of the industrial houses which crossed the Rs. 100 crores level in 1984 would be 16. Walcband laid on the Table? I? Kirloskar THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 18. I.T.e. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF 19. T. V. S. Iyengar INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. CHALAM) : (a' : There has been a change 20. Hindustan Lever in inter-se ranking of the large industrial houses during 1972 to 1984. 21. Cbowgu Ie (b) Yes, Sir. 22. Asbok Leyland Circumstances which have resulted in 23. SPIC the rise may be due to expansion, diversi. fication, establishment of new undertal.ing, 24. Kasturbbai Lalbhai modernisation inllatioD. amalgamation, etc. 25. United Breweries 51 Wriuell An&Wer3 NOVBMBBR 18, 1986 B',ttten A"5wer, 51 26. Escorts 56. N. R. C. 27. Dunlop 57. Golden Tobacco 28. Kbatau (Bombay) S8. Appejay 29. Ahmedabad Electricity 59. Kamani 30. Nowrosjee Wadia 60. G. E. C. 31- Ooenka K.P. .j, Import and Indige-DoUS Production 32. Garware of Drugs 33. Phillips 2108. SHRI R.M. BHOYE : Will the 34. G.V. Naidu Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 35. Macneill and Magor (a) the names of medicines and drugs 36. Bhiwandiwala A.H. imported during the last two years, year wise and the total amOU"1t involved; and 37. Simpson 38. Scindia (b) the detai Is of the efforts made to manufacture these drugs indigenously? 39. Brooke Bond THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 40. V. Ramakrishna DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY 41. G. K. W. OF INDUSTRY. (SHRI R. K. lAI CHANDRA SINGH) : (a): Nanlc of the 42. Lobia Machine bulk drugs imported into the country arc available in the -Monthly Bulletin of 43. Essar Bulk Carrier Imports and Exports', published by the 44. Godrej Directorate of Commercial Ind~lljgeDce. Calcutta, copies of which ure available in 4S. Murugappa Cbettiar the Parliament library. 46. Raunaq Singh The total import of bulk drugs and 47. Ccat Tyres formulations is to the country during last two years, year-wbe are given below: 48. Sahu Jain 1983-84 Rs. 126.48 crores 49. Oberoi M.S. 1984·85 Rs. 188.57 crores SO. Bombay Subarban 51. Parry (b) Technology for production of bulk drugs, wherever it is not availble in the 52. Shl'i Ambica country, to encorage domestic production is allowed to be imported on merits. Indus S 3. Madura Coa ts trial licences and registrations with D.O.T.D. are also freely al10wed to Indian 54. V.S. Dempo Companies. Additionally, 94 bulk druBs have been de1icented for production to sive Ss. Tata Tea nnip to domestic prod\l~tiop. S3 W'ritten Answers Written AnsH ers S4 Rural Integrated Digital Network -----~----- ,. 1 2 3 21 09. I~ROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR : Win the i'vtinistcr of s. Mysore Karnataka COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : ' 6. Mathura Uttar Pradesh' (a) whether it is propo~ed to bring 1. Nainital Uttar Pradesh fifteen districts under the coverage of Rural Integrated Digital Network (RIUN); and 8. Bafmer Rajasthan 9. Kohima Nagaland (b) if so, the main char .1ctCI istics of this network alongwith the names of rhe fifteen to. Tricbur Kerala districts, State-wise. proposed to be covered under the RIDN alongwith the period by 11. Amreli Oujarat which they would be covered 7 12. Kolaba Maharastra THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINj~TRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 13. Korapul Orissa (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) 14. Ka tihar-Purnea Bihar Ye~, Sir. 15. Jorhat Assam (North (b) Rural integrated digital network East) (RION) envisages provision of electronic exchanges or nlultiplcx equipment as end 16. Bankura West Bengal exchanges, provision of digital local cum transit exch:toges at Tc.h3il and district hcadqurters and inter-connecting all of them Purchase of Quatari Natural Gas by digital transmission system on Radio PCM cable t11edium. This en1bles subscri 2110. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: bers in the secondary area to dial automati Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND cally othr.!r stu ~ions in the sam~ seCOndlry NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: area. (a) whether it js a fact that Government Rural integrated digital networks in the have offered to buy Quatari Natural Gas on secondary areas planned to be covered a long term basis through a mutually bene sl.atewise are given in the statement given ficia) arragement; and below. Implementation will depend on the financial viability and availability of equip (b) if so, the details regarding the ment. agreement, if any, arrived at in this regard ? Statement THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SI. Name of State MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND No. the District NATURAL GAS 3. Sangrur Punjab 2111. SHRI PARASRAM BHAR- DWAJ: Will tbe Minister of COMMU 4. Khamam Andhra Pradesh NICATIONS be pleased to state; !5 8',ltt.,. A"swers NOVEMBER 18, 1986 Written Answers 56 ta) whether qovernment of Madhya (a) whether the delivery period of Pradelb have approached the Union Govern ordinary telegrams has been increased from ment for establishing certain new telephone eight hours to 24 hours; and cxchanaes in that State; and (b) if so, the details and Ieasons (b) if so, the details regarding the final therefor? decision of Union Government a10ngwith tbe locations where these exch~nges arc THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TIlE proposed to be opened and when these are MINIS" R Y OP COMMUNICATIONS likely to start function ing ~ (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No, Sir The delivery period continues to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be between 0600 hours and 2200 hours MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS depending on the working hours of Tele (StiRI SONTOSa MOHAN DEV): (a) No graph Office and Priority Telegrams are luch proposal has been rectived by the delivered round.the·clock. department from Madhya Pradesh Govern ment New exchanges are of generally 10, (b) Docs not arise. 2S and SO Hnes capacities; which are opened subject to tninimum demand of 5, World Bank Assistance to Coalllldia 10, 23 respectively their remunerativeness Limited according to the liberalised policy. 2114. SHRIMATI JAYANTI (b) Does Dot arise in view of (a). PATNAIK : Will the Minister of ENERGY Petrochemicals Project at Saleempnr U.P. be pJeased to state: 2112. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: (a) whether Government h~vc a propo Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be s-al to take certain steps to improve the plca'Sed to refer to the reply given to financial performance cf Coal India Limited lJnstarred Question No.5 706 on 8th April, (elL); 1986 regarding establh hment of Aroma 1 ins complex at Saleempury U.P. and state the (b) whether Gl)vrrnmcnt have C.~pproa further progress made regarding setting up ched the world Bank to finance some coal of petro-chemicals project at Saleempur, projects under cn.; Uttar Pradesh ? (c) if so, l he details of the world Bank THE MINISTER OE STATE IN THE assistance expected to be obtained for the DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND coal projects; and PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MJNISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAI .. (d) the details of these coa 1 projects '1 CHANDRA SINGH): A letter of intent has been issued to The Pradcshiya MIs THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Industrial and Investment Corporation of VASANT SATHE): (a) All out efforts U.P. Limited (PICUP) on 3.3.1986 for are being made to reduce cost of produc the setting up of a petrochen'lica\s complex tion and effect economy in Coal India at Saleempur. ImpJementation of the Limited by better utilisation of Olen and project is at preliminary stage. nltlchinery, better inventory contro], reduc tion in administrative expenses, increase IJ),trease jn the Time of Telegram Delivery in productivity by introduction of bett(r management practices and technology. 2113. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: (b) to (d). The world Bank h~s SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: sanctioned two loans, one amountlng to US $ 151 million for Dudichua opencast Will the Minister of COMMUNTICA project and the other of US $ 248 minion TIONS be pleased to state: for the Jharia coking coal projects. Two S1 Written Answers KAR1n<'A 21, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers ~ 8 more projects namely, Gevra expansion as central investm~nt subsidY, concessional and Sonepur Bazari are under appraisal of institutional finance, infra structural subsidy the world Bt' nk. etc; Cottage Industries in C hhofanAgpur Octroi Levy on Bombay High Gas 21 J S. SHRIMATI SUMA fI ORAON : 2116. SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA : WjJl the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND to state: N ~TURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are consider la) whether the Bomba) Municipal ing proposals to set up new industries in Corporation has cJahned right to levy Chhotanngpur full of natural wealth to octroi on the Bombay High Gas; provide employment to the 10cal people with 1 view \0 augment their income; (b) if so, the basis and the details of the claim; (b) whether Go~erl1mcnt propo~~ to set up cottage industries for the upliflment (c) Governmenfs reaction to the of adivasis in Chhotanagpur and Sanlhal c1a im; and Pargana s; and (d) the approximate amount of octroi (c) if so, details of industries to be jn case the claim is granted? set up ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN TI-IE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND DEPARTMENT OF INDUS1RIAL NA TURAl GAS (SHRI RRAHMA DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF DUTT): (a) to (c). Bombay Municipal INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Corporation had ear1irr demanded octroi (a) to (d. "I h':!fC aTe no proposals to set from Oil and natural Gas Commission. up new industries in Chhotan,lgpur in the ONOe's representation ngaicst this chim central sector. However, according to the was accepted. SubJequently, basis of information furnished by the Governnlcnt octroi was changed to ad-valorem and of Bihar, certain proposals are under the Corpora tion demanded octroi @ 1 010 consideration of the State Government to fronl 1.4.1983. This has been contested set up a few industries in the medium and by ONGC, Jarg/! sector such as Sponge Iron Project, High Tension Insultators Project, Radio (d) The amount denlanded by the Project and BEL TRON DjRPJastic Project Bombay Municipal Corporation from in Chhotanagpur area. These projects, 1.4 1983 to 31.3.1986 at 1% ad-valorem according to the State Government, are works to Rs. 4.6S crores. expected to provide employment to the local people including Adivasis. Besides, Inferior Quality of Rice Supplied to KeraJa it is also reported that a number of private parties propose to set up about 2117. SIIRI K. MOHANDAS: Will 1 54) units in tbe small scale secter with the Minister of FOOD AND CIVJL .aggregate of over Rs. an invtstmcnt 6 50 SUPPLIES be pleased to state: crores. Already 856 units are reported to h.lve been set up, These industries spread over Chhotao(lgpur area will benefit the (a) whether he has received any comp local Adivasis also. Some of the districts laints from Kerala Government about the in the Chhotanagpur area such as Palamau inferior quality of rice supplied by Food (Daltonganj) and Santhal Parganas. declared Corporation of India; and as indus!rially backward, are also cl-ltitled to incentives available for 'No.lndullry (b) if so, the action taken in 'his Districts and Special Regions District., sucb regard 7 ~9 ~ritte" Answers NOVEMBER 18, 1986 Written Answers 60 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) by what tinle these applicants will MINISTRY OF FOOD A·NO CIVIL be provided with connection; and SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NA.BI AZAD): (a) and (b). No such com.plalOt (c) the number of gas agencies given has been received this year. Only accept licence in Andhra Pradesh 1 able quality of rice is supplied to Kerala. THE MINISTER OF STATE Ol~ THE Consumption and Requirement of M1NISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Electricity in Mabarashtra t\:ATURAL GAS : (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) As on ].10.86 1here were 2118. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will about 39000 persons on the waiting list the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to for LPG connec\ ions in Andhru Prndesb .. state: ir.cludit·g the b~\ck\Vard areas. (a) the consumption of electricity in Maharashlra in Units; (b) Enrolment and release of I~cw LPG conections in the country is a counti nuous process and is made under the annual (b) the requirement of electricity in enro)m~nt programme of {he Oil Industry, Maharashtra; being determined by augmentation in availability of LPG, Bottling capacity, (c) the total electricity gcncr~lcd in transportation arrangements and other in Maharashtra in 1985 -86; and fra&truct ure. (c) At present there nre 289 LPG (d) the quantum of electricity !'upplicd distributorships operatir;g in Andhra to rural area for irrigation purposes this Pradtsh. year 1 Food Production :11 States and its Storage THE l\I1NISTER O~ STATE IN THE DEPARTMENf OF POWER iN THE MINISTR Y OF ENERGY (SHRI~1ATI 2120. 5HRI PIYUS TIRAK Y: \oViJi the of FOOD AND CIViL SUSHI LA ROHTAG I) ~ (a) and tb). !\1inis~er SUPPLIES be pleased to state The energy requirement in Maharu5blra ~ during 1985 .. R6 was 22897 MU which was fully mct'. (a) the lKllnes of Statef,!Union terri. tl)rje~ which are (j) self-sufficient in food production, (d) surplus in food productioJl, (c) The tOlal cnugy generation in Clnd (iii) deficit in fuod product jon; Maharashtra during 1985·86 was 26595 MU. (b) wluthcr there is any pian to have food storage Sodownshold storage in Cd) According to MSEB, 367! MU of every block of the country to minimise energy was supplied to Agricultural consu transportr:l.tion cost/distribution cost and mers during 1985-86. damage of f('od articles; and \\"aiting List of LPG Connections in (c) jf so, details of the plan 1 Audhra Prad~'sb THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2119. SHRI T. nALA GaUD: Will MINISTR Y OF FOOl) AND CI VIL the Minister of PETROLEUM AND SUPPLIES (b) nnd (c). The Food Corporation TIjE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of India holds buffer I operational stocks of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL foodgrains at a large number of nodal DEVELOPMENT IN THE l\1INISTRY OF points which are located at di-;trict/taluka INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): headquarters ~nd other places. The selec (a) to (c). The Reserve Bank as the Central tion of the nodal ,oints is made by the Bank of the country while not extending Corpora t ion keeping in view its needs and financial assistance directly ensures that operational considerations. The resronsi institutional credit is made avaibble lhr"ugh bility of lifting the foodgrajns stock from primacy lenders namely the Commercial the C0rporation's godowns, its subsequent banks, Cooperative Banks, Regional Rural "torage nnd distribution is that of the State Banks and tb~ network of Stale Financial Govcrrmcnts. The Central Governtnent Corporations, etc, to the small and- cottl~ge h!ls, therefore, no proposal to have food industries. The Reserve Bank of India has grain storage/cold storage in every block been issuing guidelines to commercial banks of the country. for adequte flow of funds to the small and cottage industries. Setting up or Optic Fibre Project by Hindustan Cables I..,imited The Small Industries Development Fund (SIDF), set up in the Industrial Develop ment Bank of India (lDBI) in May 1986, 2121. SHRI SANAT KUMAR and the National Bank for Agriculture and MANUAL: Will the Minister of INDUS. Rura] Development (NABARD) provides TR Y be pleased to state: refinance assistance for development, expan sioo, diversification, modernisation and (a) whether Governnlcnt have taken rebabilit,,\tion of snlaH scale industries, and a decision regarding location of optic fibre artisans, cottage and villuge industries and cllbles and systems project of Hindustan tiny sector units in rural areas through the Cables Limited; and f'etwork of State Financial Corporations, State Industria! Development Corporations, (b) if so, deLdls thereof '? Comlnercial Banks, Coopera tive Banks and Regional Rural Banks. SIDF also provides THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE financial assistance through the National DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER-. Small Industries Corporation (NSIC) to PRlSES IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS cOVer supplies of Inachincry to fnlall and TRY (PR01~. K. K. TEWARY): (a) and tiny units and to ,nlall Industries Develop (b). The project would be located in ment Corporations for setting up industrial District Allahabad (U.P.). estates for small scale units. [ TransiationJ Further, the Government sanctions funds for implementation 0 f programmes Financial Assistance to Small and Cottage Industries of the Khadi and Village Industries Com .. mission (KVIC), which is responsible for promotion and development of khadi and 2122. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD village industries through budgetary sources RAWAT: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY under plans. Thus Government is alreadY be pleased to sta tc : implementing comprehensive measures for financial assistance to the small and village (a) whether Government propose to industries. provide financial assistance through Re serve Bank of India for running small and Procurement of Paddy in Uttar Pradesh cottuge industries; 2123. SHRI R. P. SUMAN: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (b) if so, Government's Policy in this SUPPLIES be pleased to state : regard; and (a) the tatget fixed for the production of paddy during the current year in Uttar (c) if not, the reasons therefor 7 Pradesh and the production expected; Written AnswI's 64 63 Written Annft'" NOVEMBBR 18, 1986 (b) whether Government bas decided [English] to increase the Dumber of procurement Memorandum Against I.D.P.L. centres for paddy in varioU's districts in that State to ensure the direct procurement of 2124. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: paddy from the farmers and to save them Will the Ministet of INDUSTRY be pleased from middlemen', and to state: (c) if so, the details thereof and if not, (a) whether the Prime Minister baa the reasons therefor '1 , received any Memorandum from the F ede ration of Medical and Sales Representatives THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE Association, of India making certain MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL allegations against the management of the SUPPL1ES (SHRI OHULAM NABI Indian Drugs and Pharmaceutical Limited; AZAD): (a) The produ~tion of paddy in Uttar Pradesh, during year the crop (b) whether Government have enquired 1985.. 86, was 122,97 lakh toones. FinaJ into those allegations; estimates of production, for the crop year 1986.87, are not yet due from the State Government. (c) if so, the outcome thereof; and (d) the steps Government have taken or (b) The U.P. Government has decided propose to take in this regard 7 to open 886 paddy purchase centres during the cu,'rent kharif nlarketing year against THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 878 opened last year. DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS IN THE M1NISTR Y (c) Paddy purchases are being made by OF INDUSTRY (SARI R. K. JAI 5 agencies in the State and the number ~f CHANDRA SINGIl) : (a) Yes, Sir. purchase centres allocated to each agency IS as under: (b) Yes, Sir. (c) and (d). Government have obtained SI. Agencies 'No. of Centrt:s a report from the management of 1.D.P.L. No. Current Last The Association have, through some Yeat Year Medical Reprcsentives of JDPL filed a writ (86 .. 81) (85-86) petition in the Delhi High Court challeng. ing the promotion policy of the Company. 1. Uttar Pradesh Coope Suitable action if considered necessary will rative Federation 561 560 be taken by the Government based on its findings in the light of the report receiv ed from the company and the decision of State Food 2. the High Court. Corpora t ion 115 100 Retail Price or Coal io Delhi 3. Uttar Pradesh Agro.. Industrial Corpn. 94 100 2126. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Will the Minister of ENER.GY be pleased 4. Food Corporation of to state: India 100 100 (a) the retail price of coal in Union S. Mandaliya Vileas Territory of Delhi as on 3 t January in the Nigam -- 16 18 preceding three years; Total: 886 878 lb) the mine-head price in Bihar! Bengal on tb9tle dates; 6 S Writtlft Answ,r; KARTIKA 27! 1908 (SAKA) Written Answer, 66 (c) the break· up of the mark-up in When sold by DCCL Rs. 575.16 per prjce from the mine... bcad to the user by Pl.t. its various constituent elements; and . When sold by DSCSC Rs. 609.25 per m t. (d) whether the retail price bas been rising above the control price due to When sold by fluctuation in availability? Retailers Rs. 684.25 per m.t. J THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) Soft coke which is (d) No. Sir. used as domestic fuel is sold through retailers appointed by the Civil Supplies LPG Agencies in Kerala Department in Delhi. The retail price of soft coke in the Union Territory of D~bi 2127. SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMA. ason 1.1.1983,11.1984 and 1.1.1985 was CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of Fs.517.35 per m.t., Rs. 554.10 per m.t. PETROLEUM AND NATUR.AL GAS be and Rs. 592.44 per nl.t. respectively. pleased to state : (b) The mine head price in Biharl (a") lbe number of agencies for LPG Bengal on these dates was Rs. 17S.00 per functioning in Cannanore district, Kerala tonne. as on 30 September, 1986; (b) whether Government have any pro (c) The following are the details of p<..sal to sanct.on more agencies in the mark"up in price from mine head to Cannanore district; and the user by its various constituent elements as on 20.3.1986 : (c) if so, the places where these are P.D R. Price Rs. 115.00 intended to be located 1 Royalty Rs. 7.43 . THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MiNISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Royalty Cess Rs. 0,37 NATURAL GAS Interest on capital Rs. 0.10 3. Taliparamba Estb. Charles Rs. 2.S0 4. Kodiyeri TQtal Rs. 5S8.99 Production and Demand of Edible Oils Local ST @ 3% Rs. 16.77 2128. SlIRI MUR.LIDHAR MANE : G. Total Rs. 575,16 Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 67 Writt,. AlIsw.ra NOVEMBER 18, 1986 Wriltill Answers 68 (a) whether 'it is a fact tbat production . (b) There is already and aftcrnone of edible oils in the country is not s\lfficient Postal delivery at Trivandrum. to meet tbe demand; and (c) Does not ari~e. (b) if 80, the total demand of edible oils in the country and the production durin, the last two years, year-wise? UrJa Gram THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2130. SHRI 'PRATAP BHANU MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SHARMA: Win the Minister of ENERGY SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI be pleased to state: AZAD) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Government have approved (b) The Sub-Group constituted by the the proposals of 'Urja Gram' to be set up Department ...of Civil Su.ppJies for Edible during Seventh Five Yi:ar Plan period; Oils for the Seventh Five Year Plan had assessed the demand for edible oils and, based on target of production fixed by (b) if so, the details thereof and the Agriculture Ministry for oilseeds, the pro .. number of villages selected in various duction of edible oils during the last two States under this scheme; and years as follow : (c) whether Government are also getting Oil Year Demand Indigenous some technical and financial assistance for (Nov .• Oct.) Production these projects 1 (Qty. in 1akh tonnes) THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRI 1984.85 49.06 36.68 VASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b). The Deartment of Non.Conventional Energy 1985·86 51.15 38 88 Sources is implementing a programme for village-level !ntegrated energy projects, called "Urja Grams", based on non There bas been &hortf~ll in actual prDduc. conventional energy Sources and aimed at tiOl) of oilseeds during these years. ac.hieving energy self. sufficiency in villages. 21 such projects have so far been completed Second Postal Delivery in the fonowing States/Union Territories: 2129. SHRI VAKKOM PURU. SHOTHAMAN: Will the Minister of Andbra Pradesh; Delhi; Gujarat; Madhya COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Pradesh; Maharashtra; Orissa; Tamil Nadu Tripura, and Uttar Pradesh. Several others are under various stages of implemenla tion. (a) the number of cities in the country It is proposed to expand the programme to wbere postal delivery is done more than once; cover all States/Union Territories, to be implemented i~ association with State Governments, Rural Ele~trification Corpo (b) wh.!ther Government propose to ration and other agencies. The number of introduce an afternoon postal d:1ivery in villages that can be covered and phasing Trivandrum; and will depend on the- financial resourCes that . can be made available . (c) if not, she reasons therefor 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (c) Certain technical and educational MINISTRY OF COMMUN1CATIONS institutions. voluntary agencies, etc. are (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN ,DEV): {a) associated with the programme; Government 751. are not getting any other as~jstance for tbese projects, 69 W,itten Answers KAllTiKA 27, 1908 (SAKA.) Written Answers 10 New Telepbone ExcbaDles in Tricbur (b) Complaints mainly pertained to Dis.riet. KeraJa . deJays in supply of LPG refills, discourteous behaviour, out-of.turn suppJy of LPG refills 2131. SHRI P. A. AN10NY: Will etc. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) No case warranting termination in terms of the Marketing Djscipline Guidelines Ca) whether there is any proposal to was made out in lespect of any dtstributor instal new telephone exchanges in Trichur ships. Appropriate action after enquiry district of Kerala in the near future; and was taken regarding the complaints receive-d. No vacancy bas been caused in the Greater . (b) if so, which are the placts and Calcutta area. when these are likely to be in$talled '? (dJ Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) Apart from reorganising the areas MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS of oper'ltions of the existi~g distributors, (SHRI SONTOSH MOH«\N OEV): (a) Indian Oil Corporation plans to establish Yes, Sir. 13 more distributorships 10 Calcutta. (b) A 2 S line capacity small automatic Committee on Working of IDPL exchange at Kondazhy is proposed to be Hyderabad opened during 1987.88. 2133. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will Streamling of Distribution System the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 2132 SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA: Will the Minister of PETRO. (a) whether it is a fact that IDPL, LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased Hyderabad is running into heavy Josses to state: despite production of better quality medi. cines; (a) whether it is a fact that the Indian Oil Corporation Limited Eastern Region, (b) if so, the main reasons therefor; Calcutta has received a large number of complaints against the dealers of (c) whether a high powered Committee "INDANE" cooking gas from the consu to probe into the working of IDPL, mers; Hyderabad has bsen aPPointed; if so, details thereor and if not, the time by which (b) if so, the facts there of and nature the committee is expected to be appointed of cOUlPlaints; . to safeguard the national health which is being deteriorated by the sub-standard (c) whether any step has been taken to medicines produced by small scale factories in the country; and cancel the dealership of such distributors and whether aoy vacancies have been (d) when the medicines produced by caused in the greater Calcutta area; IDPL will be made avaiJable in open market for use be Reperal public and that (d) if so, the details thereof; and too at cheaper rates 1 (e) the steps being contemplated to THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB streamline the distribution system by DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND appointing new dealers further '? PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAI THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE CHANDRA SINGH): (a) IDPL MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Hyderabad is incurring losses. Its net NATURAL GAS (SHRJ BRAHMA losses during each of the last three yeara DUTT): (a' Yes, Sir. were al under : '11 Written Answer 8 NOVEMBER 18, 1986 Written Answers' 12 (cserve price for denlolition of old building ~s. in crores and commence construction of the new building soon after. The building is exp~cted 1983- 84 4.26 to be completed in about 24 montbs from tbe date of commencement of construction. 1984.85 9.09 Chemical Leakages from Tankers and t 985 .. 86 7 .. 36 Chemical Plants (b) The main reasons for the losses are : 2135. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR MISHRA Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : (i) Competition from small and medium scale sector. (a) whether Government are aware of (ii) Marketing constraints resulting in several instances of Chemical leakase from tankers and chemical plants at various JelS capacity u~lisation. places in the countty during the past six months; (c) No, Sir. There is no proposal to appoint any such Co~mittee at present. (b) jf so, the details thereof; (d) IDPL medicines are already avai lable in the market through retail chemists (c) whether a chemical leakage fronl a and dispensing doctors at Government tanker near Badrarna near Sambalpur on approved prices. 15th May, 1986 created panic and injured several \,illagers and Construct ion of Golaghat P(lst Office t ~ Building (d) if so, the details thereof and steps 2134. SHRI BHADRESHWAR taken to prevent such leaknges ? TANTI : Will the Minister of COMMUNI· CATIONS be plea~cd 10 state: THE MINiSTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (a) whether Government propose to PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY start construction of a new building for OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. Oolaghat Post Office and if so, when; JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (d). Infornlation is being collected and will be (b) whether there is any time bound laid on the TabJe of the Sabha as soon as programme for it; and possible. (c) if so, the details thereof; if not, Sick Industries the reasons therefor 1 2136. SHRI SOMNATli CHATTER THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE JEE : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (b) and (c). Both the works relating (b) the number out of them in the to demolition of the existing building and category of small scale industry; construction of new building have b~en awarded to the .;ame contractor. The con.. (c) the total number of cnlployees and tractor has been asked to be deposit the worker~ affected by such sickness; and 1 j Wrltte" Allswer, KARTIKA 21. 1908 (SA.KA) Ifritten AnsK'ers 14 (d) whether Government have evolved any policy for the revival of sick industries 1 2 3 and if so, to what effect 7 KeraJa 17 J551 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUS1 RIAL Maharasbtra J 31 83/2 DEVELOPMENT IN THB MIN\STRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. Madhya Pradesh 22 4151 ARUNACHALAM) : (a) and (b). Orissa 6 3824 The data on sick industrhl units assisted by bank., nre collected by the Punjab 3 1170 Reserve Bank of India as per the definition Rajasthan of sickness adopted by it. The latest 12 34~8 state-wise' data on sick industrial units \' Tamil Nadu 48 18265 (large and sman scaJe units) as available from it are given in the statement below. Ullar Pradesh 63 9111 W~st Bengal ] 31 13584 (c) The ddta of workers affected by industrial sickness is not centrally Goa, Daman and Diu 5 3 11 maintained in this Ministry. Nagaland 6S (d) G Jvernment have already issued Andman and Nicobar 23 eel tain policy guidelines in October 1981 Dadar & Nagar Ha veJi for revival of sick industrial units, and 3 decision In each case is taken on merits in Arunachal Pra desh 2 the light of these guidelines. Chandigarb 1 130 Statement Delhi 4 1938 State·wise list 0/ sick units Manipuf 595 MeghaJaya 209 State and No. of No. of Sma)) UT large Scale sick Mizoram 2 sick units as at Pondicherry 3 194 units the end of as at Dec., 84 Tripura 182 the end of June, ------597 92231 85 ------...... ---.-~~..-,- ---" ------... ~- 1 2 3 Note-State-wise data on Small Scale Units for peric·d ending June, 1985 are not yet avaiiabJe from Andhra Pradebh 31 5387 RBI. Assam 3 2884 Availability of Essential Drugs Bihar 16 5544 ~ 137. SHRI H. N. NANJE GOWDA: Oujarat S4 2779 SHRI G,S BASAVARAJU: Haryana 16 1295 Will the Minister of JNDUSl RY be please to state : Himachal Pradesh 321 (a) the steps Government have taken J~mD1u and Kashmir 677 to improve the availability of essential Karnataka 31 6240 drugs; 15 Written Answers NOVEMBER 18,' 1986 WrItten Answers 16 f, (b) whether there are complaintsj Trade Practices Act, since 29.5.198S, aHegations that Pharmaceutical companies when the asset limit was raised from and multinationals ignore manufacture of Rupees twenty crores to Rupees one essential drugs; and hundred crores. (c) if so, the action ta ken by Govern Under the provisions of the MRTP ment on -these complaints? Act, monitoring the pc"formance of such' companies is not contcmplL.ted. TfIE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND Promotion of Coir Consumption PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA 2140. SHR I T. BASHEER : SINGH) : (a) My Department is regularly Si-lRI K. KUNJAMBU monitor.ing the availability position of all, important essential drug~ in the cuuntry Will the Minister of INDUS TRY be based on the periodical reports received ple~lsed to state : from State Drugs Control A uthorities and Zonal Offices of the Central Drugs Standard Control Organisations. In general, the (a) whether Government have any availability position of all essential drugs schemes to promote the internal consump.. in the country is satisfactory. Shortages tion of coir and coir products in the wnerever reportee are mostly pertaining countfY; to particular brand of formulation of a (b) if so, the details, thereof; and company where thcreapeutic equivalents are available As and when the reports (c) year-wise demand anJ sale of coir on shortages are received, the position is products in the country ~uring the last reviewed and necessary remedial measures three years '! are taken by advising the concerned manufacturers to rush stocks \0 the reported areas of shortage. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) and Ccl. Tb\!fe are no specific INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA complaints and evidence to this effect. CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. Every manufacturer tailors its production of individual drugs based on demand. (b) Expansion of home market is on. Grant of MRTP Exemption Limit to going plan scheme jmp)ement~d by the Com()anies Coir Board. Plan prOVISion fot implementation of the scheme also exists. 2138. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA The scheme includes opening of showrooms REDDY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY and slles depots in important cities, be pleased to state : appointment of accredited de31ers, partici pation in exhibitions and fairs, colebration (a) the number of companies granted of COif fortnight offering coir products at MRTP exemption lim~ts \n 1985 and \ 98f; a discount, erection of publicity hoardings, and printing and distribution of publicity fc>lders, pamphlets, posters, release of (b) the performance of these companies advertisements to magazines etc With a after getting exemption from MRTP Act? view to ensuriog quality of products sold through Coir Board showrooms, a Coir THE MINISTER OF STA TB IN THE Mark Scheme for checking quality is also DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL in operation. Besides, home market DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY promotion schemes of Coir Board, COif OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA producing states arc nlso having their own CHALAM) : (u) and (b). 30t undertakings outlets for sale of the COif products within have been dc"rcgisteled, upto 30 9.1986, the country. Eor instan ;e, in Ker£\la, under the Monopolies and Restrictive State Cooperative Coir Marketing 1'7 Written A.nswer, KARTlKA 21, 19GB (SAKA) Wr"'t~n Answers 78 Federation and the Kerala State Coir (b) whether Government have entered Corporation are two m3jor agencies set up into foreian collaboraHon for raising coal by the State Government and J.hese agencies production durinl the Seventh Plan period; are runninl 46 showrooms in various and import~t towns in the count~y. (c) if 80, tbe terms of the agreement. (c) Figures for the last three years and what would be the coal production? (available) are as follows: THE MIN'lSTER OF ENERGY (SHRI -___...----~-._ -- VASANT SATHE): (a) The CoaJ Quantity in Value Rs. in Year Production in 1984-85, the terminal year tonnes crores) of tbe Sixth Five Year P11n was 141.45 million tonnes, Target of coal production 1982.83 1,28,410 79 in 1989-90, the terminal year of the Seventh Five Year Plan, is 226 million 1983-84 1,4S,220 91 tonnes. \984-85 1,19,000 83 (b) and Ccl. Yes, Sir. With the approval of the Government of India; Complaints Regarding Quality of Coal and Lignite Companies have entered Fireworks into agreements with the companies and organisations in USSR. Poland, UK, 2141. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD France, Federal RepubJic of Germany and SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY German Democratic Republic for develop. be pleased to state : ment of coal and lignite projects in Indja. The agreements entered into include (a) whether OovcrnmenJ. have received preparation of project reports, supply of complaints regarding poor quality of equipments, technical assistance during fireworks produced by the manufacturers implementation of the projects and in the South; and training of Indian Engineers and technicians in these countries. The coal project with (b) if so, action taken or proposed to foreign collaboration are at various stages be taken in the matter '? of implementation and it may, therefore not be possible at this stage to quantif; THE MINISTER OF STAiE IN THE the coal production for these projects. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Expansion of Third Mines cut at INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA Neyveli Lignite Corporation CHALAM) : (a) No Complaints have been received by the Central Government 2143. DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN: recently regarding poor quality of fireworks Win'the Minister of ENERGY be p1eased produced by the manufacturers in the to state: South. (a) whether Government have sanction (b) Does not arise. ed funds for the expansion work relating to Third Mines Cut at Neyveli Lignite Coa 1 Production Cotporation; (b) if so, the time by which the work 2142. SHR! RAMASHRAY P~ASAD will be taken up and the target date for SINGH : Will the Minister of ENERGY completion; and be pleased to state : (c) if not, whether Government will (a) the coal production in the Sixth take action for allocation of funds tor tbe Five Year Plan aod the target for the purpose and take steps for early completion Sev~ntb Five Year Plan; of tttc e?tpansiQD wort ? 79 Wrltt,,, AII.lwtrs NOVEMBER 18. 1986 THE ,MINISTER Of ENBRGY (SHRI THB MINISTER OF STATB IN THE VASANT SA1HE) : fa) to (c). Due to MINISTR Y OF FOOD AND CIVIL resource constraints, no funds have beeD SUPPLIES Production of Bulk Drugs (b) Yes. Sir. 2144. SHRI HARI KRISH~A (c) The quantity of edible oils imPorted SHASTRI : Will the Minister of during the last two oil years is liven INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : below:------_- (a) tbe names of units which have Oil Year Qty. imported started production of b~lk drugs for which (Nov.-October) (in Jakh tonnes) capacities have been registered under deUcensinl scheme; 1984 .. 85 13.68 (b) the total capacity registered for 1985 .. 86 1 0 1 7 (Prov.) each drug and the production of each from (upto Sept. 1986) 1st January, 1986 to 30th September, _.,------:------:---- 1986; and Proposal for Indo-Swedisb Collaboration in the Field or Telecommunications (c) the names of the units along with their capacity for each drug which have 2146. SHRI D. N. REDDY: Will not yet commenced production and the the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be reasons for the same? pleased to state THE> MJNISTER OF STATE IN 1HE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (a) whether there i& any proposal for .. PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY Indo.Swedish collaborafion in the field of OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. tele-comrnunications; and JAICHANDRA SlNGH) Information will be collected and laid on the Table of (b) if so, the details thereof? the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Price Increase of Edible Oils M1NISTRY OF COMMUNJCATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) 214S. SHRI P. PENCHALLIAH : and (b). The information is being collected SHRI AMARSINGH and will be laid on the Table of the RATHAWA: House. Will the Minister of FOOD AND Soviet Assistance in the Field of Power and coal Mining CI VIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (a) whether the prices of edibJe oils 2147. SHRI BANWARI LAL llUROHIT: ha.ve skyrocketed in recent months; SHat T. BASHEBR : SHRI KALI PRASAD (b) if whether Government are so, PANDEY: importinl edible oils to maintain their price stability; and Will the Minister of ENERGY be (4;) pleased to state ; if '0, the details t,borc;of ? "\ 8 t Wrltte" A.,."" URTtKA 21 ~ 1908 (SArA) Written Answers 82 (a) whether India's and Soviet U010n 1 8 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE representatives recently held discussions in MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE: the field of power and coal mining; (Figures in tonnes) Releases during 1984·85 Actual despatches during 1984-8S' (October, 1984 to Sept. t98S) (October, 1984 to SePtember, 1985) 1 2 3 4 s 6 Month Freesal Levy Month Freesal Levy October 92161.0 October S2418.Q 13 W,I",,, h,w." NOVBMBBR 18. 1986 WrlU,n A.,WI'.r 84 1 2 3 4 S 6 November 115268.8 November 94~23.8 December 151052.3 December - 1149S4.3 January 56767.0 Januaty 80962.4 February 42750.0 Ferbrury 50970.0 March 19308 .. 0 March 31342.0 April 24699.9 April 24294.8 May May 81.0 June '5000.0 23381.0 Juqe 7621.0 5081.0 July 125000.0 July 89746.0 3263.0 AUl\1st 125000.0 50000.0 August 69910.0 58508.3 September 125000.0 61887.0 September 4858 S. 0 55336.4 Total 450000.0 637275.0 215862 0 513734.7· _ •• __o ____._._. *Roleaaaed qu.Uties to direct allottee states are taken as despatches. (Figures in toones) R.eleases during 1985-86 Actual despatches during 1985-86 (October, 1985-Scpt., 1986) (October 1985 to September, 1986)' ._---_. Month Freesale Levy Month Freesale Levy October 125538.0 139931.0 October 23457.0 92365.0 November 125538.0 101752.0 November 40414.0 55812.0 December 100000.0 104776.0 December 23S69.0 105069.0 January 100000.0 100000.0 January 35819.0 S07S1.0 February 75000.0 150000.0 Ferbrury 21893.0 81762.0 March 65000.0 48921.0 March 25643.0 58762.0 April 40200.0 29632.0 April 26354.0 41328.0 May 40090.0 17000.0 May 20783.0 36295.0 June 37990.0 6500.0 June 33727.0 59312.0 July 31570.0 9845.0 July 25861.0 31547.0 AUlUlt 41080.0 11857.0 August ~4419.0 17886.0 September 46240.0 118S7.0 September 25053.0 15864.0 Total 834246.0 731 ?5S.0 327267.0 652773.0 N9tO ;. Higher offtake ill some of the months are due to scan t Qf eJtension of time et~. 85 Written Answ"i k.AaTIKA 27, 1908 s. T. D. Facilities in KanJirapally Kothaman,'l.lam and Muvattupuzba:ss. Telephone Exchange changes in Ernakulam district; and 2150. SHRI GEORGE JOSHEPH (c) the time by which tbey will let tele MUNOACKAL : Wi]) the Minister of phone connections ? COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (a) the time by which the subscribers . THE MINISTER OF STATE I.N THB of Kanjirapal1y Exchange (KoUayam MINISTR.Y OP COMMUNICATIONS district, Kerala) will get S. T. D. facility; «SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) Subscribers of Kanjirapally Excbaolo are (b) bow many people are waiting and likely to let STD facility by the end of 7th for how long for telephone connections in plan period. (b) Name of No. of appli Category Relistration date upto Exchange cation waiting list which connection as on 30.9.86 released. Kothamaoaalam 307 OYT 30.5.86 N-O YT .. Special 21. 7.83 N.OUT-Oeneral 24.3.82 Muvattupuzha 514 OYT 1.11.85 N-OYT .Special 18.1.-84 N·OYT.General 2.3.81 (c) Telephone connections to the to faciJitate introductiO!.+r~f electronic VOliDa waiting applicants will be released progres machines will biJ"'Wouaht .I:.~ in tltc light of sively depending upon the availability of the final decision that may· emerle aR.~;,. equipment8 and fund. these consultations. . ~, Drilling in An".. Pradesb Use of Computers in Elections b, o. N. G~ C. 2 1 S 1 . SHRI SHANTARAM N AIK 2152. SHRI A. J. V. B. MAHBs Win the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE WARA ROA : Win the Minister of be pleased to state: PETR.OLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Representation of the people Act. 1950 and 1951 are going to be (a) the locations in Andbra Pradesh amended to provide for the use of com where the Oil and Natural Gas Commillion puters in the election process; and bas planned to undertake drillioa operations in the near ru ture;. and (b) if so, the detail~ thereof? (b) the locations at which oil and 18S has already been struck in Andhra Pradesb THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE and estimated quantity of oil and lal MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE there? (mRI H. R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) and (b). A preliminary decision has been taken by THE MINISTER OF STATE OP THB Government to introduce electronic voting MINISTRY OP PETROLBUM AND machines in elections to Lok Sabha State NATURAL OAS (SHRI BRARMA DUTT) : Assemblies. Final decision will however be (a) ONGC propose to drill the folJowiDl taken after consultation with political locations in Attdbra Pradesh by the end of parties. Propoaals to amend election laws 1986·81 :- 81 Written Alllwe" NOVBMBBil18, 1986 1 • Surasaniyanam or propose to take to solve the problems of the coal workers '1 2. Votlapalem THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI 3. Vadali VASANTSATHE): (a) No, Sir. 4. Razole-C (b' Out of the 11 point charter of demands raised by the Unions during the s. Komugudom strike on 9th April, 1986, many of the demands have already been fully imple 6. Palletikurru mented. Certain others are in process of implementation being of continuing nature and a few have to be implemented jointly 7. Kanukollu by the management and trade unions through the various joint con1mittees cons 8. Kaza-2 tituted by the Joint Bipartite Committee for the Coal Industry. There is only one 9. . Tatipaka-2 demand which the Coal India is not in a position to implement. This relates to 10. Amlapuram.. 3 employment to dependents of retiring employees. It is not possible to accede to this request as it is violative of tbe Cons 11. Chintala palli titution. 12. Razole-B (c) No, Sir. (b) Oil and gas has been discovered at Kaikalur and gas alone at Razole, Narsnpur, (d) Providing facilities to the coal wor· Bhimanapalti, Kazu, Tatipuka. Recoverable kers and bringing change in their Ii fe style reserves of gas ns on 1.1.86 are estimated are works of continuous nature. The to be about 223.5 million cubic meters; Government has been continuo sly striving oil reserves have not been e5timated so far. to better the lot of the coal workers and solve their problems on priority basis. Unrest among Workers in Coal India Installed Capacity and Production of Polyester filaOlent Yarn 2153. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2154. SHRI KAILASH YADAV will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state the installed capacity and actual (a) whether the Coal India are pressing production for the last three years in for increasing product ion without any respect of Polyester Filament Yarn manu concern for the safe1y and security of the factured by MIs. Baroda Rayon Corporation, workers; MIs Nirlon Synthetic Fibres and Chemicals Ltd., MIs. Sree Synthetics Limited, MIs. CentuIY Eoka Limited; and MIs. Reliance (b) whether a number of problems of lr.dustries Linlited ? the workers raised during the last strike on 9 April have not been tackled; TH·E MINISTER OF STATE IN l'ftE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (c) whether ther e is wide unrest among PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY workers; and OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. lAl CHANDRA SINGH) : The information is (d) the steps Government have taken given below: kARTikA 27, 1908 (SAgA) Jiiritten Answ,rs 90 S. No. Name of the Installed (In Tones) Production Company capacity 1983.84 1984·85 1985-86 1. M/s. Baroda Rayon 1777 1390 1436 1726 Corpn. Limited .., .... MIs. Nir)on Synthetic 2500 1448 2734 3040 Fibres and Chemicals Limited 3. M/s. Sree Synthetics Limited 1542 lS43 2023 3930 4. MIs. Century Enka Limited 6600 4950 5787 6362 5. M/s. Reliarice Industries L~d. 25000 18844 20433 24197 Laying of Gas Pipe line from Andhra Cc) the arrangements being made to Pradesh to other States make available this rice to the consumers? 2155. SHR I B. B. RAMAIAH: WiJl THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL NA TUR AL GAS be pleased to state: SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD): (a) No, Sir. (a) whether there are any proposals for laying cf a gas pipe line from Andhra Prades,h to other States; and (b) and (c). Do not arise. (b) if so, the details thereof? [English] Reopening of Ashok Paper Mi1J THE MINISTER OF SfATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 2157. SHRI ABDUL HAMID: NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA SHRI RAM BHAGAT DUTT) : (a) No, Sir. PASWAN: tb) Does not arise. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Translation} Refusal by Southern States to Lift (a) whether Government are aware that Rice Lying in Punjab and Haryana the Ashok Paper Mills, a joint venture of 2156 SHRI BALWANT SINGH the Governments of Assam and Bihar is RAMOOWALIA : Will tho;: Minister of closed down for nlany years; FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (b) whether the Government of Bihar is no more interested in this joint venture (a) whether a large quantity of rice is and is planning to withdraw itself from the lying in the Food Corporation of India same '1 (FCI) 8odowns in Punjab aod Haryana due to refusal by Southern State Governments (c) the number of emploYees rendered to distribute it through public distribution unenlployed as a result thereof; system; (d) the step~ Government have tuken (b) if so, the facts in this regard; and to reopen the Paper Mills; and 9i JJ'rltt,. A.nswers NOVBMBER. 18, 1986 Written Answers 92 (e) whether and fund has been allocated SUPPLIES (SHR.I OHULAM NABI for reopening the same during tbe year AZAD) : (a) The total quantity of wheat 1986-87 ? procured during the year 1985.86 in Basd District was 48,867 tonnes. THE MINISTElt OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Cb) Yes, Sir. DEVEtOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (c) Does not arise. (a) The Ashok Paper Mjlls is having two plants-one at Rameshwar Nagar (Bihar) [English] and the other at Jogighopa (Assam). The Rameshwar Nagar Unit is lying closed from Reconcilia tion of Accounts of Coa I October, 1982, and the Jogighopa Unit 1 ndia Limited from March, 1983. 2159. SHRI RAN SINGH YADAV : (b) The Central Oovernment have not DR. B. L. SHAILESH : received any such proposal from tbe DR. SUDHIR ROY : Government of Bibar. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: (c) The Ashok Paper Mills was emloy· SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: SHRI MOHD. MOHFOOZ ing about 2,482 persons. ALI KHAN: (d) The Central and State Governments Will the Minister of ENERGY be and the Financial Institutions have been pleased to state: making efforts to revive and rehabilitate the Asbok Paper Mills so that the mill could resume its operations at an early date. (a) whether accoun ts of Coal India Linlited had shown a profit of ru{)ees 78 crores during 1984-85; (e) No aUocation has been earmarked in the Budget Grant of the Ministry of Industry for the year 1~·86·87 towards (b) whether there hus been reconcilia reopening of Asbot Paper Mills. tion of tbeiie accounts uptil now; (b) whether the sub.committee on the [TrDns'atioll] Consultative Committee of the Ministry of Wheat Procured in District Basti, U.P. Energy appointed to enquire into the irregularities in the accounts of Coal India 2158. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR Limit:d for the year 1984 ·85 has sub.. TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of FOOD mitted its report; and AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state ; (d) if so, the reaction of the Govern .. ment thereto ? ta) the total quantity of wheat pro cured during the year 1985-86 in Basti THE MIN:ISTBR OF ENERGY (SHRI district of Uttar Pradesh; VAS ANT SATHB): (a) to (d). On the basis of quick estimates of subsidiaries, ,b) whether proper arran&ement was Coal India Limited reported in April, 1985 made for its storage; and tha t it had made a profit of Rs. 1 3.83 crores for the year 1984 .. 8S. With the (c) the quantity of wheat damaged due completion of statutory audit of tbe finance to not making proper arrangement for its accounts of Coal India Ltd., and its sub was found storage ~ sidiaries in October. '1985, it that Coal India Limited had luffered THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lin overall loss of Rs. 78.03 crores in MINISTRY OF fOOD AND CIVIL 1984.85. 93 Wrltt,n Ali""" KARTIKA 27, 1908 (SArA) ""'tt,,. An,w,rs 94 A Sub-Group of t~e Consultative (b) if &0, the details regardi·lg the pro Committee of the Ministry of Enell:; was posals in this retard ? constituted by the Department of Parlia mentarY . Affairs in April, 1986 to ~o into THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE the details of the circumstances which led DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Coal India Limited to indicate an estimated DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF profit of Rs. 1 3. ~ 3 crores for tbe financial INDllSTR Y (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): year 1984-85 and the .reasons for ~rong (a) and (b'. Having regard to the need ,.stimation of profit ultimately leadIng to for increasing exports of various products loss of R s. 78 crores by Coal India Limited of industries covered by the First Schedule during the same year. The Sub-~roup of the Industries (Development and Regu submitted its report recently. It had lnter lation) Act, Governrnent bad in March, alia observed that the then Chairman. Coal 1981, exempted licensed/registered indus India Limited, the then Chairman/ trial undertakings from obtaining substantial Managing Director, Bbarat Coking Coal expansion licences in respect of capacities Limited and the then Chairman/Managing in excess of the licensed capacity provided Director, Western Coalfields Limited were such additional capacity is entirely for to retire during the year 1985 and hence exports. Thi~ facility was subject to the they seem to have made deliberate atte~pt conditions that the item is not reserved for to project a rosy picture of the companies exclusive production in tbe small scale headed by them. The comments of the sector and the industrial undertakings do thed CMOs on the observations of the Sub not instal additional machinery indigenous Group have been called for. or imported for achieving the excess pro· dution. FollowinR a review of the poJiey in The main variations io figures of loss/ this connection, Government has decided to profit were found to be in the accounts of do away with the restrictive conditions in two companies namely Bharaf Coking Coal the interest of augmenting export produc Limited where the loss increased by R s. tion. Copies of the Press Note dated 60.87 crores and Western Coalfields Limit 2 S.9.86 and a notification dated ed where the profit decreased by Rs. 29.01 6.11.86 issued in this regard have been crores from the original estimates. Prior supplied to Parliament Library. to the constitution of the Sub-Group of the Consultative Committee. enquiries were Separate Higb Court for Tripura rna de to look into the reasons for the variations in the two companies and the persons responsible for the same. Based on 2161. SHRI BAJU BAN RIYAN: the findings of the enquiries, appropriatel Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE disciplinarY action has been initiated/taken be pleased to state: against the erring officers. (a) whether Government have any pro The Sub-Group of the Consultative posal to set up a separate High Court in Committee has recommended that a fresh the State of Tripura during the Seventh Five enquiry may be conducted to fix responsibi. Year Plan; lity on the concerned officers. Director· (f'inancc), Coal India bas been desigoated (c) if so, the details thereof; and to conduct this fresh enquiry. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Liberalisation of Llcensinl Policy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2160. SHRI SRIBALLAV PAN I· MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE GRAHl: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY (SHR.I H. R. BHARDWAJ): (a) to (c). be pleased to state: Settin, up of High Co urts is not a Plan scheme and hence is not connected with (a) whether it is a fact that Union Seventh Plan Government propose to liberalise its licenSing polley to give a tbrus\ to export; Government of Tripura bave been aDd prcasins for formation of a separate Hish 95 Wrlttell AlJswtr& NOVBMBER. 18, 1986 Written Answers 96 Court and, till separate Hiah Court is downward trend in its profits as compared formed, for e~tablishmen t of a permanent to previous years; and Bench of the Gauhati High Court in the State capital. (b) if so, the st cps taken by Govern ment to improve its worki'1g and also to The matter is engaging the attention of steamline the administrative set up of this the Central Government. undertaking 1 \ [Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Supply of Good Quality Wheat, Rice and Sugar in DelbJ DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF 2162. SHRI JAGANNATH PRASAD: INDUSTRY (PROF. K. K. TEWARYJ: Wi 11 the Minister of FOOD AND CIV IL (a) There has been a decline in the profits SUPPLIES be pleased to state the action of HMT from 1982 .. 83 to 1985.86. being taken by Government to make avai lable good quali ty wheat, rice and sugar to (b) Government has advised the com.. consumelS in DeLhi at the fair price shops? pany to intensify efforts towards technology upgradation, costrcduction product diversi. THE MINISTER OF Sl ATE IN THE fication and toning up the management of MINlS'IRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL loss making units. SUPPLIES (SHRI aHULAM NABI AZAD): According to the information Additional Power Generating Stations furnished by Delhi Administration, good in Delhi quality wheat, rice and sugar are delivered at the.! doorstep to fair price shops (FPS) by 2165. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: the Delhi State Civil Supplies Corporation Will the Minist~r of ENERGY be pJeased (DSCSC) within a prescribed period. Apart to state: from monitoring this arrangement on a daily b:lsis, immediate rcplacetnen ts within seven d:lYS are provided free of transporta" (u) whether any blue-print of N:tlional tion charges to those FPS, who report Capital Power Project to meet Delhi's receipt of bad quality foodstuff:;. The power needs by the end of tbe Seventh DSCSC also maintains a revolving stock of Five Year Plan has been finalised; and 200 qtls. each of wheat and rice for replacement of bad quality stocks, if any, (b) if so, the details thereof and the to Fair Price Shops, who have been estimated expenditure involved, the type directed not to distribute any bad quality and location of tbe additional power stuff detected by them. Voluntary agencies, generating stations and their generating representatives of Fair Price Shops and capacity? representatives of DSCSC are involved in detection of bad quality foodstuffs. In ) addition, the DSCSC has opened complaint THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE counters in all the 44 circles for registra DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE tion of complaints regarding bad qual ity MINISTRY OF ENERGY Difference in Price of Imported and Expenditure on Accommodation tat.. Indigenous Drugs on rent by Super Ba'tar 2167. DR. A. K. PATBL; WiJ~ dJe 2166. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPL.IBS Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased be pleased to state : to state: (a) the annual expenditure incurred by (a) the names bulk drugs which are or Super Bazar, Delhi on rent and indigenously produced and also allowed to maintenance; be imported; (b) whether it is a fact that the landed (b) whether proposals are under cost of imports of these drugs is less than consideration to reduce this expenditure: and indigenous price; (c\ if so, details thereof '1 (c) if so, what is the approximate diffe rence in respect of each drug; THE MINISTER OF ~TATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL (d) whether the prices of medicines are SUPPLIES cSHRI GHULAM NABI fixed on the basis of prices of indigenously AZAD) : (a) The annual expendituro produced bulk drugs; and incurred by the Cooperative Stores Ltd •• New Delhi, popularly known as Super ( e) if so, the reasons for not fixing the Bazar, is about Rs. 20 46 lakhs, as reported prices of medicines on the basis of landed by them. cost of imported bulk drugs for the benefit of consumers? (b) and (c). The Super Bazar bas informed that there is no possibility for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reduction of expenditure on this account, DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND as the annua1 rental charges, ground rent PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY and maintenance charges etc. payable in OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAJ ... respect of different premises hired from CHANDRA SINGH): (a) Under the Government agencies and others are or Import and Export Policy for the period fixed nature. April, 1985 to March, 1988 the imports of various bulk drugs have been restricted Excess Billings of Telephones under Appendix 2 and 3 thereof. Such placement of bulk drugs in a particular 2168. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI Appendix depends upon the domestic pro Will the Minister of COMMUNICAnONS duction t and other factors. be pleased to state: (b) In most of the cases the landed (a) the total number of claims received cost of import of bulk drugs is lower tban by the Delhi Te)ephones during the period the indigenous price. from 1st January 1986 to 30th June, 1986 in the matter of excess bilJinl; (c) It varies from drug to drug and from time to time. (b) the number of claims disposed of; (d) and (e). Price of formulation is (c) the number of claims accepted fixed based on the indigenous price of bulk fully or substantial!y; and drug .as notified 'by the Oovernment und~r (d) the number of claims rejected? the Drugs (Price Control) Order, 1979 or the price claimed based on the sources of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE procurement, whichever is lowe,. M1NlSTR.'Y OF COMMU~ICATIONS 99. W,'tl,,, AII8W'" NOVEMBER. 18, 1986 ",rilt'" An.sw", 100 (SOl SONTOSH MOHAN DBV) : (a) (a) whether any family courts have The total Dumber claims received by Delhi been established in the country to deal Tolephones, from 1st Jan" 1986 to 30th with marital disputes and provide justice to Juno, 1986 is 5,892. litigants at a quick~r pace; (b) Tbe Dumber of claims disposed is (b) if so, details thereof; and 4,749. (c) the results of the working of these (c) The number of claims accepted courts? fuUy or substantially is 843. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) The number of claims rejected is M1NISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE 3,906. (SHR.I H. R.. BHARDWAJ) : (a) Yes, Sir. [Tran"tJtloIIJ (b) and (c). The family court set up at Commemorative Postal Stamp in Memory Jaipur by the Government of Rajastban of Late Rashtr. Kavi Ramdhari Singb Dinkar has disposed of 848 cases out of 1771 instituted during the period from 1-1·86 to 31·8·86. 2169. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU DBVI : Will the Minister of COMMUNI. Instanatioft of Thermal Power Station CATIONS be pleased to state : Near Cuddallore Town (Tamil Nadu) (a) whether postal stamp has been 2171. SHRI P. R. S. VENKATESAN : issued to commemorate the memory of Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased late Rashtra Kavi Ramdbari Singh Dinkar; to state: aDd (a) whether Government are contem (b) if not. whether Government are plating instaHa tion of Thermal Power cODsiderina to issue such commemorative Station near Cuddalore Town in Tamil Itamp 1 Nadu; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the time by which the MINISTR.Y OF COMMUNICATIONS preliminary work regarding preparation of (SHitl SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) detailed estimate, issue of tenders notice, No, Sir. aJIocation of funds, etc. win be completed, as the survey work has already been (b) The ploposal was considered by completed? tbe Philatelic A.dvisory Commi ttee which functions in the Department to advise the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government about the issue of commemo .. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE rative/special postage stamps but was not MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI recommended. SUSHILA ROHTAGU : (a) and (b). The Tamil Nadu authorities propose to set up a [English] Thermal Power Station, with 3 units of 21 0 MW each in the first state. at Cuddalore in Working of Family Courts the South Arcot District in Tamil Nadu. The project feasibility report has yet to be 2170. SHRI RAM SWAROOP RAM: received in tbe Central Electricity Authority SHRI RAM PYARB PA1'UKA : (CEA) for techno. economic appraisal; SHRI PRAKASH V. ?ATIL : work on the proposed project could start only after its feasibility has been established Will tbe Minister of LAW AND and necessary clearances approvals are ~Tl'B be pleased to state: a:vaila\)le. 101 Written Answ,ti K.ARTIKA 21, t 908 (SAKA) [Translation] (c) if so, whether Government propose Mining of Coal Reserves at Bander to allow the manufacturers to export it ? (Maharashtra) THE MINISTER Of STATE IN THB 2172. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR : DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased PETROCHEMICALS IN THB MINISTRY to state : OF INDUSTkY (SHRI R. K. JAICHANDRA SINOH) : (a) Annual (a) whether drilling work at Bander in ProdJction of Chloroquine Phosphate for Chimoor tehsi1 of district Chandrapur, 1985-86 is of the order of 195.82 MTs. Maharashtra has been discontinued due to tbe objections raised by the Ministry of (b) No, Sir. Environment and Forests and if so, the objections raised by that Ministry; (c) Government will consider export of (b) whether it is a fact that large this Drug as and when irdiaenous reserves of coal have been formed at production is more than tbe requirement. Bander; Indigenlsatlon Programme of Marutl (c) the present stage of the survey work Udyog Limited there; 2174. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN Cd) the steps taken by his Ministry to MOHANTY : Will the Minister of restart the mining work there; and IND USTR Y be pleased to ata te : (c) the tinlc by which the mining (a) whether the indigenisatioD pro work is likelY to commence '1 gramme of Maruti Udyog Ltd. for manufacture of car has beeen completed; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY and (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) to (0). According to available reports, work of drilling boreholes for detailed exploration (b) if not, when the process will be of coal deposits in Bander (Chandra pur completed? District, Maharashtra) has been held up for want of permission from local forest THE MINISTBR OF STATB IN THE authorities. The State O<'vernment of DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTBR. Maharashtra have been approached in this PRISES IN .THE MINISTRY OF regard. The detailed exploration work INDUSTRY (PROF. K. K. TBWARY): would restart as soon as the matter is (a) No, Sir. resolved. 1 he coal reserves in Bander have been estimated to be around 90 million tonnes. Cb) Maruti UdYOB Limited expects to achieve the indigenisation tarlets of 95.3 ~ [English] in 1988-89. Production of Chloroquine Phosphate Completion 0' Upper Kolab Power Project in Orissa 2173. SHRI S O. GHOLAP : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : 2175. S.HRI CHINrAMANI JBNA Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : (a) the annual indigenous production of anti-malarial bUlk drug "Chloroquine Phosphate"; (a) the target date for the completion of tbe Upper Kolab Power Project in (b) whether the production of the Orissa; drug is more than tho total requirement in the country; and (b' the progress made so far; {Os W,itten Answers NOVEMBER 1 8, 1986 ",',itlen Answers 104. (c) whether it will be completed within 'scheduled dates indicated in answer at (a) the prescribed period; above. (d) if not, the reasons therefor and the (e) Annual energy potential of the steps being taken to complete it at an project, when completed, is expected to be early date; 832 Million Units. (e) the total quantity of electricity (f) Measures to increase generation and npected to be generated annually on the availability of power in Orissa include completion of the said project; and expeditious completion of on-going projects, renovation and moderoisation of (f) what other measures are being taken Talchcr Thermal Power Station under the CentraJJy Sponsored scheme, assistance to increase the generation of electricity in from the neighbouring systclns of Madhya Orissa to meet the demand 1 Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh. Orissa will also get power from the Central station at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Farakka and Chukha hydro·electric project DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE in Bhutan. MINISTRY OF E~ERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGl) : (a) First unit of [Translation] Upper Kalab Hydroelectric Project is Increase in Pay Scale of Telegraph expected to be commh.sioned in March, Messengers 1987, second unit in Sept .• 1987 and the third unit in March, 1988. 2116. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (b) The work on the main dam has be pleased to st~lte : been, by and large, completed. Erection of radial gates, work on head race tunnel (a) whether it is a fact that the Fourth 'and surge shaft lining, valve house civil Pay Commission had not considered the works, erection of penstocks and power question of service conditions and pay bouse super structure concreting are in scales of 1 elegruph Messengers working in prolress. Telegraph offices; been On Unit-I Generator barrel has (b) whether Government propose to completed. Runner shaft assembly is in consider fhe question of increasing the pay prolress. M tin inlet valve has been placed scales of all telegraph messengers by -on foundation. Trial assembly of guide diJcontinuing the payment of inceptive apparatus has been completed. Assembly money; and of stator section and laying of bars has also been completed. Rotor assembly in (c) if so, by what time and if not the Service Bay is in progress. reasons there for 1 On Unit.II, work of Spiral casing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pressure testing, pit liner assembly, fixing MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS of second stage embedded parts and (SHRI SONTQSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) to eartbing mat for generator barrel has been (c). The Fourth Pay Commission completed. considered the question of service conditions and pay scales of all the Group '0' posts On Unit-Ill, Pressure testing of all the in the Telecom. Department. The duties coolers for guide bearing baths, assembly of Telegraph Messengers can be equated and welding of spiral clsing in service bay only with other Group 'D' officials who has been completed. All the pieces of were also in the scale of Rs. 196 .. 232 draft tube liner have been assembled, erected against which the Fourth Pay Commission and aHaned. recommended the scale of Rs. 750·940. The Government h~s accepted this recom- (c) and (d). Concerted efforts are being mendation. IIowever, the payment of made to commission the units as Per incentive money will cODtinue. iO~ W,ltten An.rw'rs . i<.ARTtKA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Wrilten Answers 106 [English] been made in the prices of other cars manufactured in the private Sector; and Increase in prices of Maruti and other Cars (c) if so, the details of increases made during the last one year, carwwise '1 2117. SHRI KAMAL NATH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE· LOPMENT IN THE MIN1STR Y OF (a) whether the price of Maruti car has INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA been increased; CHALAM) : (a) and (b). Yes Sir. (b) if se, whether any incre~\se has also (c) A statement is given below. Statement Illformation in respect of major manufacturers of passenger cars is as under: Name of Manufacturers Model Date of Quantum of increase increase ...... ,-- ... -----~------~.- 1. Maruti Udyog Ltd. Standard car March-1986 Rs. 7,100/· June .. 1986 Rs. 6, I 00/. Deluxe car March-1986 Rs.5.550/· Junc-1986 Rs. 8,800/- AIC car June-1986 Rs. 9,500!- 2. Premier Automobiles Ltd. Premier Padmini April .. 1 985 Rs. 3,321/.. June-1986 Rs. 3,940/- 3. Hindustan Motors Ltd, Ambassador Petrol April-1985 Rs. 3,600/. April-1986 Rs. 3,000/· July-l 986 Rs. 2,000/- Contessa Classic Sept.-1986 Rs 4,000/- 4. Standard Motor Standard March-1986 Rs. 12,925.63 Products of Inbia Ltd. 2000 (Without A/C) June.. 1986 Rs. 16,918.98 i 0; 'Written Answiir, NOVEMB~R 18, 1986 Wrliitfn Answers i 08 Strike by Telephone Operators Levy sugar is sold throughout the country in BaDIa lore at th~ uniform price of Rs. 4.80 per kg. The Central Government supplies kerosene 2 t 78. SHRIMATI HASAVA· to State/Union Territories at a pre... RAJESWARI : Will the Minister of determined wholesale price. The Sta~e COMMUNICATIONS be pleaFoed to state: Governments/Union Territory Adminis trations fix the retail prices of these (a) whether the Telephone Opera(ors in articles for sale through fair price shops Bangaiore are on strike; after udding transportation costs, commission to the fair price shop owners (b) whether the (elephone connections and other incidental cbarses to the Central between Delhi and Banga10r and between Issue Price of foodgrains and wholesale Delhi and Madras have not been operating price of kerosene. The rate of commission for the Past fifteen days; and to the fair priee shop owners is decided by the respective State Governments/Union Territory Administrations. Cc) if so, the action taken against such employees and to see that such incon Allocation to Singareni Collieries in veniences do not occur in future ? Andhra Pradesh 2180. SHRI O. BHOOPATHY : Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATiONS state : (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No, Sir. (a) the allocation made to increase the productivity of coal in the Seventh Five (b\ There were some interruptions in Year Plan; and Truak Circuits b~tween Bangalore and Delhi and MJdras and Delhi due to work (b) the allocation made to Singareni to rule observed by Junior Engineers and Collieries in Andhra Pradesh ? Technicians upto 8th and 10th November, 1986, respectively. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (c) Does not arise in view of (a) above. VASANT SATHE,: (a) and (b). An investment of Rs. 6,120.58 crores, including Rs, 120 crores for research and Increase in Commission of Foodgrainst Kerosene and Sugar Dealers development, and Rs. 580 crore' has been proposed respectively for the Coal India 2179. PROF. K. V. THOMAS Limited and the Singareni CoJl ieries Wi II the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Company Limited during the 7 th ,Five Year SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Plan Period. It is expected that as a result of the above investment the output (a) whether there is a proposal to per manshift would go up from 0.87 tonne increase tbe rate of commission of retail in 1984-85 to 1.21 tonnes in 1989.90, shop dealers who sell foodgrains, kerosene i.e., the terminal year of the 7th Five Yea(' and sugar through public distribution Plan, in the Coal India Limited and from system; and 0.70 tonne to 0.89 tonne in the Singareni Collieries Company Limited during the same period. (b) if so, to what extent, item-wise 1 Drilling of Wens For Crude Oils THE MINISTER OF &TATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL 2181. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY: SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI Win the Minister of PETROLEUM AND AZAD) : (a) and (b). Under the scbeme NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: of Public Distribution System, the Central Government allocates food grains to State (a) whether any breakthrough bas been Governments/Union TerritDry Administra .. achieved in 1 986 in drilling wells for tions at uniform Central Issue prices. crude oils; 109 W,'tt,,, Answers KARTIKA 21, 1908 (SAU) Wrltt'n Answ,rs 110 (b) if so, where a.re the new finds (d) to what extent the import of crude (b) if 80 the d'tails thereof 1 oil has been cut down in 198.6 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTR.IAL NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF DUTT): (a) and (b). Duling 1986, INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA .. exploratory drilling led to the discovery of CHALAM) : (a) Yes Sir. NPC have oUlgas in the following wells:- decided to strengthen its productivity re'earcb activides in view of tbe national emphasis on productivity and need for Name of the well OiJIOas providing guidelines for productivity improvement, monitoring and measure Tatipaka Gas) A. P. ment. Oii) Gas Kaikalur-3 (b) FoJ)owing are areas which are identified by NPC for research : B-42·1 Oil) R-71 Oil) Bombay (0 Computerised Productivity Data Base and Inter-firm comparison. CD·l Oil) Offshore (ii) Productivity Measurement and CA.. l Oil) Audit System. Namti Oil) Assam (iii) Setting up of Production and Shalmari Oil) Productivity Standards on FRD REFA Model. (c) The increase in production of (iv) Energy Management, including crude oil during tbe last two years was Energy Modelling and Energy 1.18 million tonnes as follows :- Data Base. ·_-_._------(v) Participative Management. (Miliion Tonnes) (vi) Linking Wages with Productivity. ~ 1984.85 28.99 (vii) Organising for productivity. 1985-86 30.17 Oil Bearing Rocks in Ganga Basin . ~d) It is proposed to purchase 14.6 2183. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: ml1hon tonnes of crude oil during 1986 as WiU the Minister of PETROLEUM AND compared to about J 3.8 miIJion loones purchased during 1985. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : Productivity Research by Nationa) (a) whether there has been any evidence Productivity Council so ~at of oil bearing rocks In the Ganga baslO; 2182. SHRI YASHWANTRAO ~ADDAKH PATIL : Will the Minister of (b) if so, whether any exploration has USTa Y be pleased to state : beep conducted; and 11 t Written Answers NOVEMBER. 18. 1986 w"".,. AII.", 1 t 2 (c) if so, with what result '1 monthly newsletter. Copies or this publi. cation are sent regularly to Parlia'meat THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Library. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ·NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA Step. to Cheek Inflo" of Hazarde•• DUTT) : (a) to (c). On the basis of leo Drugs scientific surveys, ONOC have drilled 7 wells. One well at Madhubani is under 2185. PROF. RAMKRtSHNA drilling. So far no commercial discovery MOllE : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY of hydrocarbons has been made. be pleased to state : Projects Identi Oed for Foreign (a) the percentage of the drugs Par ticipa tiOD marketed in the country considered to be non-essential and their percentage in terms 2184. SHRI 1. RAMA RAI: Will of value as against the total value of drugs the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to marketed. sta te : (a) Which are the projects identified by (b) the estimated drug formulations Government for foreign participation; in vogue in the country and how do they and compare with the formulations in vogue in the Western countries; and (b) the names of the countries that have extended direct investment alongwith (c) the steps taken by Government to the identified industries? check the inflow of hazardous drugs and to weed out the non-essential drugs in the country 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA .. DEP~RTMBNT OF CHEMICALS AND CHALAM) : (a) Government's policy for PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY foreign coll1boration is slective and based OF INDUSTRY (SHRJ R. \(. on national priorities. Foreign co1)aboration JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) The number is permitted in sophisticated and high of formu la tions marketed in the country priority areas, jn expert-oriented or for runs into thousands. For marketing the import substitution manufacturing or for formu'ations in question permlSSlon under enabling indigenous industry to update Drugs and Cosmet ics Act bas been existing technology in India to meet obtained. efficiently domestic requirements andlor to become competitive in the export (b) No such study of comparison about market. However, the initiative for the number of formulations in India and selection of sources of technology is left to Western countries has been carried out. the Indian entrepreneurs They explore the alternative sources of technology, (c) The drugs marketed in the country make a techno-economic analysis of the and their side-effects and efficacy is reviewed proposed foreign collaboration and select and from time to time steps are taken to the foreign collaborator whose offer suits ban the use of hazardous drugs. them best and submit the proposals for consideration of the Government. Appointment of LPG Agencies Distri (b) Details of all approved foreign butors in Palghat District (KeraJa) collaborations showing the nameS of Indian and Fore ign firms, items of rna nu 2186. SHRI V. S. VIJAYA- facture and nature of collaboration are RAGHVAN : Will the Minister of publisbed on a monthly basis by Indian PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be Investment Centre, as a supplement to its p leastd to state : 113 Wrlttl" A"swe" KAR.Tll(A 27, 1908 (SAKA.) W.rltten Answers 114 (a) the total number of applications THB MINISTER. OF STATE IN THB ror cooking gas connections pending in tb~ MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Pa1gbat district of KeraJa; (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (8) the number of. telephone exchanges manually operated in the pathanamthitta ,b) the time by which they are expected district is one. to be cleared; (b) Yes Sir. (c) whether there is any proposal to appoint additional agencies/distributors in this district; and (c) A 700 line automatic exchange equipment bas been . allotted for the exchange. The automatisation is expected (d) if so, the number and places where at the end of 7th Plan on receipt of the new agencies/distributors are going to equipment. be appointed ? Commemorative Posta) Stamp in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Honour of Late Shri Mannath Padmanabban MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) Nil. 2188. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (b) Does not arise. pleased to sta.te (c) and (d). It is proposed to appoint (a) whether any rcqu~st has been 4 additional distributors in Palghat Dislt. received to issue a commemorative stamp at the folJowing locations, based on studies in honour of the Late Shri Mannatb relating to economic viability:- Padmanabhan of Kerala; and .,.._...-...... _ r ._ •• _ .._--... (b) if so, the reaction of Government No. Locations-- thereto 'l 1. Manargha t 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Palghat/Pudusseri 2. 2 (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) Yes, Sir. 3. KolJengode 1 (b) The proposal was considered by the Conversion of M9Dual Telephone Philatolic ~dvisory Committee which Excbanges into Automatic Telephone functions in the Department to advise the Excbanges in Pathanamthitta District Government about issue of commemorativel Kerala special postage stamps and other philatelic rna tters but was not recommended. 2187. SHRl K. KUNJAMBU : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Shortage of Power in Orissa pleased to ata te : 2189. SHRI NITYANANDA MISRA: (a) the number of telephone axchanges Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased manually operated in the Pathanamthitta to state : di<;trict of Kerala; (8) whether Orissa which was once a (b) whether there is any plan to convert power surplus State has turned into a them into automatic exchanges in a phased power deficient State; manner; and (b) if so, the extent of shortage that (c) if 80, tbe details thereof 7 the State is currently suffering at constant ~. t 15 'Written Answlr, NOVBMBER t8. 1986 Written Answer, t-16 demand and the shortage as per the (a) whether it is a fact that Glljarat projections for the future needs for industry which had 3,84,670 perlons more than and agriculture during the next three years; Madhya Pradesh on the waiting list for and L.P.G. connections as on 1 .. 4 .. 1986 has got only 12 distributorships more than (c) how much power was made Madhya Pradesh during the period 1·1 .. 85 available through the natiC'nal power grid to June, 1986 while, on the other hand, over the last three years and the projections Maharashtra with only 2,29,140 persons for the future '1 more on the waiting list than in Oujarat got 49 more distributorships than those in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Oujarat; DEPAR.TMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (b) if so, the criteria for allotment of SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) Yes, Sir. new L. P. G. distributorships in various States; and (b) During October, t 986 the energy shortage in Orissa was about 16.8%. The (c) whether Government would allot power shortage in Orissa during 198!7 .. 88. more L. P. G. distributolsh ips in Gujnrat ? 198 ~-89 and 1989-90 is ~nticipated to be 33.8 %o. 30.1 %0 and 36.0 %0 resp~ctively. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (c) Assistance rendered to Orissa from NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA the neighbouring States/regions during DUTT) : (a) Yes1 Sir. The total number 1983-84, 1984-8S and 1985-86 was as of L. P. O. distributorships in Gujarat, under:- Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra as on October 1, 1986, was respectively 237, 160 and 447. Release of new L. P. G. (Figures in MU) connections is made through new as well 1983-84 1984-85 1985-86 as, to the extent possible, existing distri butorships.. From Bihar 19.5 26.6 19.0 (b) Based on feasibility studies, new From DVC 9.9 L. P. O. distributorships are set up at various locations provided- they oifer From A. P. 44 0 433.4 274.4 sufficient potential for ao economically viable distributorship. Augmentation in From M.P. 305.4 the overall availability of L. P. O. and bottling capacity in the area are also taken ---~-~~------into account. Future assistlnce will depend on the power supply position in the neighbouring (c) Yes, Sir, in accordance with the States and regions. However, Orissa will annual marketing plans of the oil industry. recei'le power from Farakka STPS and Chukha Hydro-electric projects. [Translation] Allotment of LPG Distributerships in Gujarat Pension to Employees of K. V. I. C. Engaged in Trading Acthities 2190. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD Will the Miuister of 2191. SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be CHA TURVEDI : Will the Minister of pleased to refer to replies given to INDUSTRY b:t pleased to refer to the Unstarred Questions Nos. .5.54 and S6S reply given to Urstarred Question Oll 22 July, 1986 regarding allotment of No. 3328 on 18 March, 1986 reg: LPG/Petrol Pumps and waiting list for penSion to employees in commercial LPG connections in Western Region organisations of Khadi and ViJlaae States respectively and state: Industries Commission' and state ; 11 7 Written Answet,$ KARTII<:A 27, 1908 (SAKA) WrJtten Answers 1 i 8 (a) the date on which Government ·THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE received the proposal to grant pension MtNISTR.Y OF FOOD AND CIVIL benefit to the employees of the Khadi and SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI Village Industries Commission engaged in AZAD> : (a) to (d). No new central trading activities; schenle bas been drawn up to create public distribution infrastructure in remote (b) whether Government have also and inaccessible areas. However, for received some memoranda etc. for grant of developing adequate infrastructural pension to employees; and facilities for strengthening the Public Distribution System duriog the Seventh Five Y car Plan, there is a Central Sector (c) if so, when a decision in this Scheme for giving financial assistance to the regard is likely to be taken? States and Union Territories in North Eastern Region, Sikkim, HimachaJ Pradesb, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Jammu and Kashmir and Andaman and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Nicobar Isl'inds, in the shape of sbare DEVELOPMEliT IN THE MINISTRY capital contributiop to their State Civil . OF INDUS'fkV (SHRI M. ARUNA· Supplies Corporations, if any, and financill CHALAM) : (a) The formal proposal to assistance fot construction of Sodowns. extend Pension Scheme to Kbadi and This scheme does not cover other Statesl Village Industries Commission employees Union Territories. engaged in trading activities was received by Government from K VIC on 22nd January, 1986. For the curr.!ot financial year 1986-81, an outlay of Rs. 35 Jakhs has been ptovided for giving financial assistance to ( b) Yes, Sir. tbe States/Union Territories covered under the scheme. (c) KVle has been asked to workout the financial implications etc. of the [Translation) scheme. A decision will be taken on receipt of the detailed information from Setting up of Industry in Jhabua District of M adbya Pradesh KVle. 2193. SHRI DILEEP SINGH [English] BHURIA Will the Minister of Amount Earmarked for Implementing I~DUSTRY be pleased to state: Public Distribution System in Remote areas (a) whether it is a fact that Jhabua district in Madhya Pra desb is a 'No 2192. Sf{RI HAR IHAR SORE.N : Industry' district; Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be' pleased to state : (b) whether it is a fact than DO industrialist is coming forward to set up a (a) whether a new central scheme has big industry in this district and; been drawn up to create public distribution infrastructure in remote and inaccessible (c) if so, whether Government are areas; considering any proposal to set up any big , industry in public or joint sector in this (b) if So, the amount earmarked for disttict to ensure that this district does not implementing the above central scheme; remain a 'No Industry' district 1 (c) the States proposed to be covered THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE under that scheme; and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (b) and (c). During the years 1983 to connections released 3nd cylinders distribu 1986 (upto September) 8 total No. of 6 ted in each district from 1 January, 19'63 letters of Intent. 2 Industrial Licences and to 31 October, 1986 and the demand of 20 D. o. T. D. Registrations have been cylinders during each of these years; and issued for seHing up industries in the Jhabua District of Madhya Pradesh. (d) the details of the steps taken to remove the shortage of cylinders [English) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Cbanges for Telephone Directory MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA 2194. SHRI HAFIZ MOHD. DUTTl : (a), (b) and (d'. A backlog of SIDDIQ Will the Minister of varying degrees in the suppJy of L. P. O. COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state refills developed in various markets of whelher Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Oujarat owing to temporary bottling (MTN) has decided to charge for the capacity constraints. These have been Telephone Directory supplied now being overCOlne afld the backlog is diminishing. free of cost to th-e subscribers consequent to which it has not yet brought out the information regarding number new telephone directory '1 (c) The of rumpla ints and number of new cornections released during 1.1.83 to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 31.10.86 in Rajkot, Bhavnagar, Amreli, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Surat, Bhroach and other Distt. of Guja.rat (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : No is being collected and will be laid on the Sit. Table of the Sabha. Since the figures relating to demand . ~nd distribution of The telephone directories of both Delhi cyl ind ers during these years run into and Bombay have already been printed. several Jakh cylinders, the effort involved While the Bombay directory has already in collecting the informat ion would n\)t be been distributed, distribution of Delhi commensurate with the purpose sought to Directory bas just started. be served. [Translation] Setting tiP of Pefrochemical Complex at Barauni Shortage or L. p. G. Cylinders in Gujarat 2196. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY : Will the Minister of 2195. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN INDUSTRY be pleased to state: RAMJlBHAI MAVANI Will the Minister of PETROLBU~ AND (a) whether It is a fact that at the time NA 1 URAL GAS be pleased to stale : of setting up of Barauni Oil Refinery, Government had agreed in principle to set (a) whether Government's attention has up a huge petrochemical complex based been drawn to the fact that L P. G. on naphtha at Barauni at an estimated consumers in Guja rat nre not getting the cost of about Rupe:s 700 crores; gas cylinders due to their shortage and whether G.overnment have received (b) ~hethcr severa) organisations have compla ints in this regard; submitted memoranda to the Union Government in this connection; (b) if so, the details of these (c) if so, the action t~ken by the complaints; Government so far to set up this factorY in Barauni and the time by which the (c) the number of such complaints factory would Slart functioning; and received in Rajkot, Bhavnagar. Amrcli. Surat, Bhroach and other districts i1 (d) if no action has been 1aken, the Gujarat and the number of new gas reasons therefor? THB MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE expenditure on land and building will be DEPAR.TMENT OF CHEMICALS AND' met by the State Government and that on PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY machinery, equipment. etc. by the Govern. OF INDUSra Y (SH.RI R... K. ment of lndia. The C'bjecti,,'e of the Centre JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (d). IS to provide trained manpower for the SUllcstions about the setting up of plastics processing industry with special petrochemical ~ompI~x .in Bih:l.r have. ~e.en emphasi4i on engineering plastics and appli.. received from ume to time. The POf;Slblhty cation development. of locating petrochemical comptex in Bihar hal been considered in the past. In its Collaboration with Holland for ~foderni· report submitted in March, 1986 the site sation of Bbadravati Cement Unit Sel~ctjon ' Committee constituted by Government of India bad inter-alia 2198. SHRI H. '8. PATIL: Will recommended that the site at Barauni the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to might be suitable for setting up of a state: caprolactam plant and the down·stream units based on aromatics. Accord~nglYt a (a) whether recently an arrangement letter of intent has been issued in July, bas been reach'!d between the Governments 1985 to the Bihar State Industrial of India and Holland for collaboration pro Development Corporation Ltd. for setling jects for the modernisation of Bhadravati up of a plant at Barauni for the manu Cement Unit; and facture of 50,000 tonnes/annum of caprolactam. A Working Group bas also beeJil constituted t,o examine the possibility (b) if so, the details in this regard? of setting up of a petrochemical complex at Barauni. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL [English} DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Proposal to Set up Extens!on Ceo.tre of Central Institute of Plashes Engineer (a) No, Sir. ing and Technology Hyderabad (b) Does Dot arise in view of reply to 2179. SHRI S. PALAKONDRA- part (a) above. YUDU: Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state: Report of Panel on Cooking Gas (a) whether there is any proposal to 2199. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT.. set up Extension Centre of the Central' NA IK : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Institute of Plastics Engineering and AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Tedhnology at Hyderabad Andhra Pradesh; and (a) whether it is a fact that Government (b) if so, the details of the proposal ha ve set up a Panel on cooking gas; and and the amount earmarked for that purpose? (b) if so, the details regarding the composition of this Committee and its THE MINISTER OF STA TB IN THE terms of r~ference and the time by which DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND its report is likely to be submitted '1 PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MlNISTRY OF INDUSTRY (~HRI R. K. JAI. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) and (b). Govern MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ment has approved the setting up of an ex NATURAL GAS, (SHRI BRAHMA tension centre of central Institute of Plastics DUTT) : (a) Yes, Sir. Engineering and Tools at Jeedimetla near Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh at an estl. (b) lhe Composiiion of the Committee mated cost of Rs. 290.86 lakbs. The is as under: t 23 Written A.nswers NOVEMBBR 18,1986 Written ·A.nlwers 124' (2) Snlt. Sudha Joshi, M.P.- THE MINIS1RY OF ENERGY (SHRI Chairperson -(Lok Sabha) VASANT SATHE): ta) and (b). The Departmen t of Coal has drawn up a (2) Shri P.R.S Vennkatesan comprehensive programme for introduction MP (Lok Sabha) -Member of electronic applications in the Coal indus try to improve safety, production and (3) Shri La) Vijay Pratap productivity in the coal mines. Under Singh, MP (~ok Sabba) -- " Phase 1 of this programme, 20 mines have been identified and their e1ectronification is (4) Director (Marketing), c~pected to be completed by 1987.'88. Ministry of Petroleum Identification of more wi)) start in 1987.88 and Natural Gas " under Phase-II. The mines identified under (5) Director (Marketing) Phase-I .are as foJ lows: Indian Oil Corporation DCCL Ltd. " 1. Lodna (6) Director (Marketing) Bharat Petroleum 2. Moonidih Corpn. Ltd. " 3. Sudamdih (7) Director (Marketing) Hindustln Petrokum 4. Loyabad Corpn. Ltd. " S. Kusunda (8) Executive Director, Oil Coordination EeL Committee. -Convenor. 1. Chinakuri The Committee will go into various aspects of the question of providing better 2. Seeta)pur service to LPG users in the country, with due regard to safety, and to give suitable 3. Ninguh suggestions in this regard. 4. Dhemomain The Committee bas shought extensi.on 5. Parbelia of time by six months for its report which was due on November 14, 1986. CCL Introduction of Electronics in Coal 1. Churi Mines 2200. SHRt JAGANNATH 2. larandih PATTNAIK : 3. Rajrappa SHRI Lt\KSHMAN MALLICK: WCL Will the Minister of ENERGY be J. Ballarpur pleased to state: 2. Inder (a) whether Department of Coal has 3. Satpura Mh l drawn up a comprehensive programm~ for SECL the introduction of electronics in coal mmes; and 1. Talcher (b) if so the detai Is thereof and the 2. Churcha number and 'names of coal mines selected 3. Wesh Jhagrakhand alongwitb the scheme of Government in this regard ? 4. NCPH 125 WrltteR Answ,rs KARTIKA 2. 7, 190'8 LiberaUsation or Norms and Procedure .. ~ransrtr or Shares by Companies for Opening Post Offices Remote Back ward Areas 2202. DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to 2201. SHRIMATI MADHUREE state: SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNI· CATIONS be pleased to state: (a) whether Government have examined the recent decision of the Company Law (a) whether the norms and procedures Board upholding the right of a Company to ror opening post offices in remote backward refuse share tran~fer; areas of the country have been liberalised; and (b) if so, their reaction thereto; (b) if so, the details thereof? (c) whether Government contemplate to issue any guidelines in this behalf so as to put the whole matter on a sound footing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and safeguard the interests of the gcouine MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS investors; and tSHRI SONTO&H MOIIAN DEV): (a) and (b). The norms a .. topted by the (dr' if not, the reasons therefor? Department since 1978 for opening, of post offices in backward and tribal areas in fact contain substant ial relaxation in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE re~pect of requirements of minimum popu DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL lation and nlinimum revenue where as in DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF normal rural areas, a vil1~ge should have a INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): minimum population of 2,000 'to be eligible (a) to (d). Appeal against refusal to regis for a post office. in case of hilly, backward ter transfer of shares lies before the and tribaJ areas, population of villages Company Law Board under Section III of within 1.5 Km of the main village is aggre the Companies Act, 1956. Under Section gated to, make up a minimum population 22A ~4) (c) of the Securities Contracts of 1,000. Further the minimum revenue (Regulation) Act, 1956, a reference is expected in hilly backward and tribal a~eas required to be made before the Company is only 10% of the cost as against 2S % Law Board before refusal to transfer of prescribed for normal rural areas. f'hares in the case of securities listed at a recognised stock exchange. '( he Company Law Board, a quasi-judiciaJ authority, 2. The Department is at 'Prescnt taking decides the matter on (the merits of each a fresh' look at the norms for opening of case. post offices taking into account the recom mendations of the C,lmmittee of Enquiry Modernisation of Telecommunication into the extra departmental system, the Network extent of postal development that has taken place in different areas and other relevant 2203. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA factors. However, in so far as tribal and NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will the backward areas are concerned they will Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be continue' to be entitled to special considera pleased to state : tion. It is possible that even the relaxed norms may be found to be inadequte in some areas characterised by extreme sparse (a) whether Government have. taken ness of population or remoteness, In such steps to modernise telecommunication net": cases the concerned State Governments work in the metropolitan cities; are expected to come up with proposals for opening of Post Offices in relaxation (b) if so, the number of telecommuni. of norms· under the scheme of Non. cation modernisation schemes undertaken jp Returnable Contribution (NRC), Delhi and other chies; 12? Wrlu,,. Anlwe,,, NOVBMBER. 1 8, 1'986 Wrltt,,, AilS"" t 18 (c) tbe cost of the telecommunication (b) Various schemes undertaken to modernisation schemes; and modernise the telecommunication network include, instaJiation of electronic exchanges, dueling for underground cables, use of (d) the details thereof? microwave systems, for local junctions and computerisation of Directory enquiry service etc. THE MINISTER 'OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS ,(c) and (d). Details of schemes and (SHRI SONTASH MOHAN DEV): (a) their estimated costs are given in the State Yes, Sir. ment below. Statement Details of Schemes and their Cost ------Modernisation Schemes Quantity Rs. (Lakbs) 1. (a) Electronic Local Exchanges 360400 Lines 4.5961.26 (b) Electronic T endems Exchanges 40000 Lines 4471.17 (c) Electronic Digital Trunk automatic exchang~s . 17000 Lines 2110.26 (d) SPC Telex Exchanges including Transit 19400 Lines 4412.60 (e) Regional Maintenance Centre~ far B·IOB 4 397.52 2. (a) In House Computers 4 1365.64 (b) Computerised Billing Centres 4 4417.88 3. Ducting Apprix. 175 1791.60 R.Km. 4. (a) Co-ai'dal Cable Systems S 492.54 (b) Microwave Radio Relay Systems 31 2635.79 (c) PCM cable systems 32 562.74 (d) Digital UHF relay systems 2 58.50 - Indigenisation of Oil Field Equipmeat (b) jf so. the steps taken in this regard? 2204. SARI SRIKANTA DATTA NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Win tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to . DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL state: DEVELOPMENT IN THE M1NISfRY OF INDUSTR r (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) whether OovernOlent had a proposal (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. With a vjew to for indigenisatlon of oil field equipment; encouraae tbe indigenisa tion of oil- field ilP4 equipment, tbe CJovernQlert }lave e~tODded 129 Wrlll'" Answer, KARTI. 27, 1908 (SAKA) 'Wrltt,,, AlUw,r, ll0 the rollowinl concessions fO the indigenous have been taken which include improvement manufacturers of oil field equipment: 'in project implementation, better capacity utilization, reduction of secondary fuel oil (i) Supplies of oil field equipment to consumption and auxiliary power consump ONOC and OIt4 would be entitled tion, implementinl a centraJ)y sponsored to deemed expor~ benefits if the renovation and modetnisation schemes for offers are internationally competi. improving the performance of some of the tive. existing thermal power statio~8, reducing the tim.e taken for capital maintenance etc. (ii) Permissio.\l to. import du ty free raw material an& components required Technology lor Electronic Automatic for the manufacture of these items Exchanges is given in order to enable the indigenous supplier to become 2206. PROF. NARAIN CHAND internationally competitive. PAR~HAR: Will tbe Minister' of CO MMUNICTAIONS be pleased to state : (iii) Pric.: perference ranging from 15 to 3 S % depending on the value (a) whether there is any controversy addition, is also given to indige with regard to the choice of tecbno)olY nous manufacturers. for the Electronics i.utomatic E~chaDgeS (RAX); Considerable indigenisation bas been effected in the manufacture of land rigs, (b) whether the Nambiar Committee offshoIe platforms, jack up rigs, offshore also recommended the technology developed supply vessels, pumps and compressors, 0~1 indigenously by ITI and the Telecom. field chemicals, oil well cement, etc. Research Centre (TRC) jointly, known as , the ILT (Integrated Local cum Trunk) Exchange: and Speclric Programmes for Making Power Stations Economical and Emcient (c) if so, the likely date by which 2205. SllRI SRIKAN r'A DATTA. the final choice would be made and whe NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will ther the RAX, tailored to Indian needs, the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to would be given a fair trial ? state : THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether there is a need for making (b) if 80, bow Government propose to (b) Yes, Sir. achieve tbe above objective; (c) Two prototype exchanges of 128 (c) the specific programme, if drawn up and 400 lines ILT to Il1/TRC designs are therefor; and on field trial. Development work to extend the, capacity to 2000 lines capacity is in (d) the details thereof 'l progress. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE A Jetter of intent for 2S exchanges has been placed on ITI for further trial. DBPA~tMBNT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENENGY (SHRJMATI Installation of Public Call Offices SUSHILA ROHTAGI) ; (a) Yer, S;r .. Under Hexagon Scbeme (b) to (d). In order to ~p:lprove tbe 2207. PROF. NARAIN CHAND performance of power Stations in the State PARASHAR: Will tbe Minister of Electricity Boards, a number of measures COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: NOVE.MBER 1S. 1916 WrltlM . .4.nsw,,., 1 3 2 (a) whetber the sanction and instella THE Ml·NISTER OF STATE .. IN THE ti.on of lona distance peos under MINISTRY OF COMMUNI'CATIONS the .ilexalon Scheme bas made any (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : headw.y in the first two years of the (a) Yes, Sir. Seventh Pive Year Plan; . (b) Tbe information is given in the ~ (b) if 10, the total number of Hexagons statement below .. identified for the iostallation of peos Sta.te.wiae, .and the number of Hexagons in (c) 712S Long- Distance peos are which the peos- have been provided to be provided during the remalnlDg duriU tbe.first two years of tbe Seventh period of the Seventh Five Year Plan. Five Year PJan .. State.\\ilie as on date; AnnuaJ targets for each year are fixed at the beginning of the respective year depen :(c) the taJ'lets for the remaining years ding on the avai'ability of financial resources of the Sev,ntb. Five Year pJan separately and stores. foc each year; and (d) The remaining identified Hexagons (d) the likely date by which peos are likely to be covered during the future would be installed in all the Hexagons iden plans depending upon the availability of tified for tbis purpose 1 financial and material re~ources. Statement Identified iPJh",bit,d hexagons and those provided with telephone facility as on 31.10.86. SI. No. Name of Circle Identified inhabited Hexagons provided hexagons with telephone facility. 1 2 3 4 1. Andhra Pradesh 4991 4858 2. Bihar 4140 1300 3. Oujarat 2387 1206 4. Jammu & Kashmir 885 268 S, Karnataka 3648 2251 6. Kerala 546 539 '. Madbya Pradesh 6103 3145 8. Maharaabtre . 4842 213S 9. North Eastern 3308 747 (including Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, M.anipur, Megha.laya, Mizoram, Nalaland. Tripura,. 10. North Western 2023 10S0 (including Punjab, Haryan~ ~nd Hima~bal). 133 Wr;'tten Answer, KARTIKA 27, 1908 (SAkA) Wrlti,,. An"w,r, 13-4 t ·2 3 4 11. Orissa 2110 854 12. Rajasthan 6193 1603 13. Tamil Nadu 1672 1645 14. Uttar Pradesb 4055 2210 1 S. West Bengal , 2171 847 (including Sikkim) Total 59,280 2'4,664 Direct International Telex Services Statement· 2208. PROF. NARAIN CHAND 1. Afghanistan PARASHAR: Will the Minister of 2. Alaska COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 3. Albania (a) the names of the countries to 4. Alger.ia which direct Telex. service is available from New Delhi as on date: s. Ango)a . (b) whether it is proposed to cover 6 . AnguiJa more countries under direct International \ Telex service during the remaining years of 7. Antigua the Seventh Plan; and 8. Argentina (c) if so, the names theJ.'eof with year· 9. Australia wise break.up for coverage for the remain ing years? 10. Austria 11. Bahamas THE MINISTER. OF STAlE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATlONS 12. Bahrain (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Fully aU,tomatic subscriber dialled telex 13. Barbodos service from all Telex Subscribers in India including Subscribers from New Delhi is 14. pelgium available to 181 countries shown in the statement given below. 1 s. Belize lb) The Automatic Telex Service 16. Benin covers almost all the countries in the world 17. Bermuda and as such no need for any further expansion is foreseen. 18. Bolivia 19. Botswana (c) Not applicable in view of (b) above. 20. 8razil 13J Written Answers NOVEMBBk 18, 1986 Written .t4nswlrl i3' 21. Brunei 56. Ghana 22. Bu)gaia 57. Gibraltor 23. Burma 58. Greece 24. Burundi 59. Greenland 25. Camaroon 60. Greeneda 26. Canada (CNA and TWit) 61. Guadeloupo 27. Cayman Island 62. Guam 63. Gautimala 28. Central African Republic 64. Guiana 29. Chad 65. GuYana (Republic) 30. Chile 31. China (People's Republic) 66. JIaiti 67. Hawaii 32. Colubia 68. Honduras 33. Cook Islan 69. Hongkong. 34. Congo 70. Hungary 35. Costa rica 71. Iceland 36. Cuba 72. Indonesia 37. Cyprus 38. Czechoslovakia 73. Inmersat 39. Denmark 74. Iran 40. Djibouti 75. Iraq 41. Dominica Island 76. Ireland 42. Dominican Republic 77. Isreal 43. Ecuador 78. Italy 44. Egypt 79. Ivory Coast 45. BL Salvador 80. Janlaica 46. Etiopia 81. Japan 47. Falkland Island 82. Jordon 48. Earoe Island 83. Kenya 49. Eiji 84. Korea (South) SO. Finland 85. Kuwait SI. France 86. Lebanon 52. Gabon 87. Lesotho 53. Gambia 88. Liberia 54. Germany (GDR) 89. Libya" 55. Germany (FRG) 90. Luxumberg 91. Macao 125. Poland .. 92. Malasasey 126. Polynesia French 127. Portuaal 93. Malawi 94. Malaysia 128. Puertorico "9'. Maldives 129. Qatar 130. Re Union 96. Malta 131. &oumania 9 7. Mariana Island 132. Samoa American 98. Marsbel IslaD4 133. Samoa-Western 99. Martinicne 134. Saudi Arabia 100. Muritinia 135. Senegal 101. Mauritius 136. Seychelles 102. Mexico 137. Sierra Leone 103. Montserrat 138. Singapore 104. Morocco 139. Solomon Island 105. Mazambique 140. Somali 106. Naura 141. South Africa 107. Nepal 142. Spain 108. Netherlands 143. Srilanka 109. Netherlands Antilles 144. St. Christopher 110. New Calidonia 145. St. Luisa 111. New Zealand 146. St. Pierre and Micquelon 112. Niger 147. St. Vincent (WI) 113. Nigeria 148. Surinam 114. Nicarague 149. Swaziland 11 S. Nor folk Island 150. Sweden 116. Norway 1 S 1.. Switzerland 117. Oman Sudan " IS2. 118. Oraguay IS3. Syria 11 9. Pakistan 154. Taiwan 120. Panama 1 SSe Tanzania 121. Papua New Guinea 1'6. Thailand 122. ParalUary 157. TOlolele J 23. Peru 158. Tonga 124. Philippines (Pbilc:om. PTT, OM ETPI) 159. Trinidad and Tobaco t ~9 Written .An.sw'e'8 NoveMBER 1 a, 1986 Writte~ Answer i 40 160. Tunisia ( c) the details reaardinl the Ie] eeted 'Special region districts' under this 161. Turkey scheme-? 62. Turks and Caicos Island THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THB : 63. Tuvalu DEPARTMENT. OF INlJUSTRIAI .: 54. UAB (Abudhabi, Ayman, . DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY Of INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM)~ Alain, Dubai, Fujiarah~ " (a) and (b). The Policy of the Oovern~ RAS· AL· Khaima, Sharjah, ment is to grant one Letter of Intent in Umna}, Qaiwan) each Catetory 'A' District (consisting of No. Industry as well as Special Region 165. Uganda Di~trjcts) for the manufacture of Steel Pipes 166. U. K. and Tubes, for a capacity not exceeding 25,000 tonnes per annum, provided no 167. Upper Volta such Industrial Licence or Letter of Intent has been granted for the same lota'tion. 168. USA (RCA, ITf, TWC, This would however be subject fo clearance WUT, WUD, FTC, and TKT) of the exact location from the environ.. 169. USSR mental angle Vanustu 170. (New Habrides (c) The details ~of Special Region 171. Vatican City Dist"ict.s are available in the Brochure issued by this Ministry in April, 1984 172. Venczula titled "Incentives for IndustfJes in Back ward Areas", copy of which is available in 173. Virgin Island (Britain) the Parliamen t Library. . 174. Virgin Island (USA) [Trans/ofion] 17 S. Wallis Futuna Islardst Supply of Bitumen for Relief Opera 176. Yemen Arab Republic (Sanna) tiODS in Rajasthan 177. Yemen (POR) 2210. SARI SHANTI DHARIWAL: 178. Yugoslavia Will the Mini~ter of PBTROLTUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 179. Zaire 180. Zambia (a) whether Government have received any memorandum from Rajasthan Go\ern.. 181. Zimbabwe alent for the supply of bitumen for completing the work under ta ken uod·er the Setting up of Steel Pipes and Tltbes famine relief programme; Units in Special Region Districts (b) if so, the details thereof; 2209. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will the Minister of 1NDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c) whethcl it is a fact that Govern ment have not supplied the bitumen to thi' state as a result· of which construction (a) whether Government have decided work of roads is lying incomplete; to allow steel pipes and tubes .units to- be act up in 'Special region districts' ; (d) if so, the reasons ther~for;. and (b) "if S0, the details regarding the policy and criteria adopttd by Government (e\ the time by .which bitumen is which issuina Jetters of intent; and likelY to be luppli ed by Government '1 141 Wrltt'll Answ'r' KAR.11KA 21,l908.,(SAfA) ""111,,, Answers t 42 . THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE countey, amount or forcing exchange spent MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND duriol the period every half y:arly and NATURAL GAS (SKR1 BRAHMA rates paid every half yearly; DUTT) '; (a) and (b). Representations have been" received from the state Govt. (b) tbe realnos for variations in prices of Rajasthan for supply of 3000 MT and how did the Government derive benefit Packed bituman per month. from the same; and (c) to (e). As against the estimated requirement of 10,000 Mf during 1986 .. 87 (c) the average petcentaKe variation the oil industry has supplied 36,300 MT in prices for imports and exports of of bitumen including 23,000 M r packed petroleum durins the above period? bitumen to' Rajasthan during April Sept ember 1 986. The balance require THB MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ment of 33,700 MT will be 8uppUed by MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AN}) March 1987 in a phased manner as· NATURAL GAS (SHRI ·BRAHMA usual. DUTT): (a) Two statement I & 11 afe attached. (E1Iflish) (b) The variations in prices are gener Import and Export or Petroleum ally on account of fall in prices, different prices for different grades of crude. 221 L SHRI MOOL CHAND °DAGA : exchange variation etc. The Government Wilt the Miriister of PETROLEUM AND derived benefit through contracts at market NA TURAL GAS be pleased to state: related prices and higher purchases in the spot market. (a) the details of import of petroleum during the last two years cnding 30 June, (c) The prices for import and export 1986, showing countries from which cannot be compared as items exported imported, quant.ity imported frool each are different from those imported. NOVBMBER 18. 198' o '"N ..., 8 ....fI) .....- ..... c:> ....o ;s .! .Q .8 < 145· Writ,. ·AIt""" ItA~TIICA 27, 1908 (SAK~): Wrlltl" ""WI" 146 ' = .. .._§ I S-" an 00 -o ....C2 ....-'" eo .•~, ." e'" '14'1 Written Answers t40"BMBSlt 18. t 9.4 COanpMillU( Regarding Procurement of PRISES IN THE MINISTR. Y OF Mining Equipments for NeyveU ~igllite INDUSTRY (PROF. K. K. TEWAB.Y):'· Corporation's Second Mi~e ExpansioD , Project (a) DurillS 1986, Maruti vehicles have beell exported,' to Ne~al aDd Baolladesb. ' 2212. SHRI ATISH CHAN'DRA SINHA' : Win the Minister of ENERGY (b) .50 SKD" car kits have be CD' export be pleased to state: . ed to Bang~4esb realisinl foreign excbanac . of abou! US • 1.. 5 lakh. Exports to Nepal arc (a) whether Government have' since aaainat rupees. received several representation aga~nst the Neyveli Lignite Corporation limited, Ta,mil , . (c) Tho foreign exchangc component' Nadu in regard to the procurement of per car' of these exported c~rs would bc mining equipments, for Neyveli Lignite around US '$ 112 S. Corp~ration Limited's second mine expan. sion project; and (d) No, Sir. '(b) if ~o, the details and facts thereof? [Translation] Foodgrains Storage Capacity "THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANi SATHE): (a) and (b). Some, 2214~ SHRI VIRIlHI rliANDER representations were received regarding JAIN: placelllent of orders for Spreaders and SHRI AMARSINH Conveyors on a West German manufacturer RATHAWA and an. Indian manufacturer respectively by the Neyveli Lignite Corporation for its Will,tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL ~econd mine' expansion project. The repre state: sentations were 'iooked into _and i~ was SUPPLIBS be pleased to found that letters of intent were is~ued to. these parties by NLC after observing normal (a) the foodgrains storage capacity procurement procedures and taking into wlth Food Corporation of India and the con~ideraticn all relevant factors such as . various warehousinl CorporatioDs in the technical competence of the manufacturers, countrY State-wisc; till -date; and performance guarantees etc. Export of Maruti Cars (b) the foodgrains storage capacity in private sector in the country prescnt ? . 2213. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : Will the 'Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased THE MINISTER. Of STATE IN THB to state! 'MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CLVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI (a) ,the names of- the countries to which AZAD) : (a) A statement showing the State Maru ti Cars are being expor ted' during wise covered storage capacity available with 1986; , the Food Corporation of -India, Central ,Warehousing Corporation and State Ware (b) 'the Dumber of cars .to be exported housing Corporations, as on 1·9!"1986 is and the amount of foreign exchange to be ,attached. Whereas the storale capacity realised due'to tbese exports; with tbe Food CGrporation of India is for foodgrains only) the' capacity with Central (c) the present import component in . Warehousiog Corporation and State Ware .. housibg Corporations is utilised. for these cars; and foodsrains as weU as fO' generals, ware (d) whether the exports will balance the bousin •• amount spent on import of components? '(b) This Ministiy doel not maintain 'IHE M]N]~iEi. OF STAiE IN'IHE ,statistics re1atiDI to foo41rtcin storale capa. I J r I ~'1\ NIt: 1 (F It 11 ] C I ~ 11 R.. city with 'the private sector in tbe eouat,y. i49' , ~rl"irI kItH" KAatIKA 21, 1908 '(S~dl . , Written ,4'nsw,i':s 150 . Statement CDV6r.d Ito._ragt c'Pllclty .avalfPble with Food Corporation 0/ india. Central Watehouslng Corporation ant) State Warehousing Co~poration ' as on 1.9.1986 (Capacity in Lakh tonncs) _.- -_ ... , __ ~ - -.~. SI. No •. Name of Statel Food' Central State TOTAL Union Territory/ Corporatin Warehousing Ware- 1tegion of Indian Corpn. housing Corpn. ...._..___...... _. 1 2 3 4 5 6 1. Andhra Pradesh' 12.23 10.03 . 5.67 2'7.98 2. Assam 2'.7S 0.3S . 1.54 4.64 3. Bihar 6.21 1.53 2.66 . 10.4 4. Haryana 13.41 2.08 ".41 22.9 5. Gujarat 6.41 2.50 1.,79 lQ,7 6. Himachal Pradesh 0.15 ' ,,0.15 7. Jammu and Kashmir 0.47 0.47 8'. Karnataka 2 84 l.SS 3.19 7.58 9. Kerala ,5.24 ~9 1.38 7.31 10. Madhya Pradesh 10.94 4.23 8.53 23.70 11. Mabara shtra 14.09 5.02 ' 5.97 2S.08 12. Meahalaya 0.19 0.04 0.23 13. Manipur 0.10 0.10 1 4. Nalaiand 0.01 0.11 0.12 1.0'7 1.47 4.94 1 S. Orissa' 2.40 13.96 57.8S 16. Punjab 3'8.16 5.13 14.S ' 11. Rajasthan 9.66 1.14 3.70 0.01 18._ Sikkim 0.01 0.30 19. Tripura 0.13 0.17 17.97 20 •. Tamil Nadu' 7.46 S'.39 , S.12 1 2' 3 ' 4 '5 6 ,~ 21. Uttar Pradesh 19.15 '7.92 12.61 ·39.84 22. Weat Benlal 4.95' , 5.02, 2.18 ' 12.15 23. Delhi 2.46 , 1.51 4.03 24.' Mizorm 0.03 0.01 0.04 2S. Calcutta Port 1.92 - 7,92 26. Madras Port '0.45 0.45 2,7. Vizal Port 0 •.50 0.50 28'. Kandla ' 1.22 ,- , 1.22 Total: 169.64. ~S.96 77.48 303.08 Note: The storage capacity with Cent raJ Warehousing Corporation and ,State Warehousing Corporations includes the capacity hired oll,t of these Corpo rations Food COrpQration ' of India which has not been intluded in the capacity shown for FoOd COIporat~on of India. The. capac~ty: wi,th th.e Central Warehousinl Corporation and State WarebouslDl Corporations IS not utilised for foodirains exclusively. [Englbhl Increase in Sugar Price Report of La w Commis.ion on Lok Pauehayat. 2216. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA R.EDDY: Will the MilJister of FOOD AND 2215. SHRI H. B. PATIL :'Will the C(VlL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased (8) 'whether there is a proposal to ,raise to state: the price of sugar for giving more benefit to sugarcane groweres; and .(a) whetber Government have received the report of Law Commission on Lok (b) if SO~ the details thereOf? Pancbayats; and ' THE MINISTER OF STAT! IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL (b) if so, the details of in main re- SUPPLIES (SHR) OHULAM NABJ commendations and the reaction of AZAD) : (a) and (b). The ex·factory prjce. GoverDment the'reOD ? payable to susar factories in respect· of levy portion of their production are determined THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE witb reference to the statutory requirements MINISTRY OP LAW AND JUSTICE under Section 3 (3C) of the ElSential Com (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). modities Act, 1955, ,keeping in view the ' Government bas not received any Report interests of ·sugarcane Irbwers_ CODsumer. ' (rom the' Law Commission OD Lot and BUlat I?ro~ucef8. While fixing the Jevy Panchyats. However, the Law Crmmission .sular prices for the current .usar year has submitted to the Government its J 14th 1986.. 8,7, tbe increase in the statutory mjpi. . R.eport on "Gram NyayaJaya. Steps are' mum Price of IUlarCane from Rs. 16.50 OD being taken to lay this Report tbe Table to Rs. i 1.QO per quintal 'for the leaSOD of tbe Houae. 1-986"81 will be taken into consideration. Re-eaploJmeat In Ney,eli Ligaite Impo~t of Edible ons CorporatioD . . . . 2218. SHR.I BHARAT KUMAR 22.17. DR. P. VALLAL.PERUMAN : . ODBDRA:· Will thc Minister of 'ENBRGY be pleased SaRI 4,MARSlNH to etate : RATHAWA: Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL <.) whether' Government· propose to take steps to stop extension of service ,or SUP·PLIES be pleared.to state: re-edlPloyment of retired officers in Neyveti (a) the names of the countries from . LiloJtc Corporation of Officers on 'Special where edible oils beiDg imported; Duty; Advisers, etc; and" . are (c) the quantity imported durjDa tbe (b) whether such extensions/re-empJoy- , last three years. year-wis: and country mel1t.. are Dot against tbe principle of wille 'l •. pri.idtnl mqre em.p)oyment opportunities to the young educated people 1 . ~ THE. MINISTER. OF STATB IN THB . MINISTRY OF FOOD AND' CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRl' AZAD): (a) The types of oils and the VASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b), Neyveli natncS of the countries·from which these are Lilnite Corporation bas not given extension Dormally shipped are as .follows: . or re-emploYll1ent to any retired person. lIowever, ,in, view of the revamping and renovation of the onloing schemes and to Oils Countries keep up tbe project scbedules in respect of ------...---- 'the, expans.ion scheme, 'llersotM with rich ~(}yabean Oil USA, Brazil, Argentina experience in certain specialised areas have and Europe bee., retained' as specialists/consultants for \8 ~ period and for specified tasks. Rapeseed oil Canada and Europe. This is mainly ,jri,tbe interests, of expeditious .Sunflower seed USA and Argentina. project implementation and human resource oil development within the organisation taking advantale of the experience of these Neutralised Palm Malaysia and Indonesia. specialists. oil RBO Palm oil Malaysia ana Indonesia. . Neyveli Lignite Corporation also recuits RBD Palm olein Malaysia and Indonesia. YOUDa candidates' of appropriate educatio-' nal quaLifications to various jobs and such employment is· in no way affected by (b) The information is giveD in the ensasinl specialists and consultants. statement below. Stat~eDt • PinanciaJ Year ( Qty. in lakh tonnes) Orisin' 1~83.84 . 1984-85 1985·86 , 1 2 3 4 4 1 ..Brazil 3.64 3.87 2 83 . 2. ,U.S.A. 1.27 0.39 3. Arle~ tina 0.40 1.14 O~39 NOVBMBEa '18, 1916 1 2 4 " , 4. Spain .0.40 0.25 O~23 5. Canada 1.1() \ 1.03 0.85 6. France 0.37 0.29 0.13 7. West Germany '0.37 '0.42 0.24 8. Malaysia 6.07 7.17 S.ll 9 • lodoD~sia 0.39 1 O. . Philip ines 0.06 1 Others t. 0.47 1.21 0.63 Totai : . 14.09 . 15.85 10.80 Second Oil Refinery in Assam (a) whether it is a fact that many industrial units in public sector are either 2219.. SHRI BHARAT KUMAR running at loss or are 'faling in the category ODEDRA: Will the ~jnister of PETRO. of sick un Hs: ' . LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleas~d to state: (b) if so. whether Goveroment propose to strengthen the financial position of 'these (a) whether the Assam Government had uuits;and &Ought the second oil refinery to be taken up as a Central public sector project; (c) if so, 'the details in this regard and (b) if so, tbe ,response of 'Union Govern the amount of financiai assistance proposed . ment thereto; and to be given to each of these units? {c) if ·it is considered to aI,low it in THE MINISTER OF STATE 'IN THE private sector; the reasoDs tflereof 7 DEPARTMENT OF PU:IlLIC ENTBR .. , THE MINISTER OF STATE. OF THB PRISES IN THE MINISlZRY· Op INDUSTRY K. K. MINISTR.Y OF PETROLEUM AND (PROF. TEWARY): NATURAL GAS (SHRI .. BRAHMA (a) As per the Public Ent~rprises Survey DUn) : (a) Yes, Sir. 1984-85, 91 Central Puplic Enterprises incurred losc;es including' lOsses incurred by (b) and (c). As agreed during .negotia 31 nationalised Sick units, while 113 enter. tion leadinl to Assam Accord, tbe refinery prises made -net prOfits. is beins considered to be let up in the priva tc scctor. (b) and (c). Financial assistance by the Govt. in the form of working 'capital loans, (Trails I. riOIl] interest holiday, moratorium on payment of i~tere8t and repayment of loans' etc. are Financial Assistance to Loss Incurring , Public Sector Units ; granted based on the merits or ibdividual cases after a detailed scrutiny•. There '4s no general decision to grant financial assis 2220. SHRI SHANTI DHA~IWAL : tance solely to. strengthen ' the . financial Will the Minister INDUSl RY be pleased "r position of the IOS8 making ente~prise& as to state: such, Govt. is" however, keen to strengthen KAIl11lC.A 27, i908 (SAKA) '. Written ..4"swerl 1 58 ·their. financial position' by bringing 8bou~ MabarasbtJ'a, Madhya Pradesh and GOa in improvment iff their performance by nleBDS the 'last fiYe years;. · of better capacity u~ilisatioD; cost reduttion and cost control; better inventory manage (b"whether'any eBqujry has been made ment; 'techriolo~ upgradation;, m,?dernisa to ascertajn the reasons for tbe increate in tion; product diversification; , structural 8uch JosIe.; and - reorganisation etc.' (c) if so, the r~suUs tbereof ? [EIJII&II] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Scbeme ror Attracting Private Capital" , in Public Under'akings DEPARTMENT OF POWER .IN THE . MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMAoTI SUSHILA ROHMOI) : (a) The totaJ 2221. SHRI HARI KRISHNA losses in revenue rrom electricity (reckoned SHASTRI: on. commercial basis), in GuJarat, RAM 'SWAROOP SHRI Maharashtra, Madbya .Pradesh and Ooa# RAM: in the Jast five years upt9 1 ~85.86 aXI , given beJow:- Will the Minister of INDUSTR.Y. be p leased to state Name of tbe SB B Profit (+)1 ,(a) whether a scheme is be,ng Loss -(-) (RI. considered for attracting prtva te capital·in Crore)' public undertakings; Oujarat S5.02 (b) if so, the details thereof: <+) Maharashtra (-) 217.80 (c) ~hether there bas been adequate Madhya Pradesh response from, ~he private sector in the (-) 13.80 , matter; and ' Ooa N.A. (d) in . which public undertakinas, I?rivate capital is proposed ,to be attr,acted ? (b) and (c).. The losses have been attri~uted to unre.munerative tariff~ low , . TlIB MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE leneration output, high T aDd D ,Iolses, DEPARTME'NT OF PUBLIC ENTER· loSies 00 account of rural eleetriticat-ion· PRlSES' IN . THE MINIST'RY OF operations.. 'delay in reali-tatton of duel 'INDUSTRY (PROF. K. K. TEWARY),: etC. (a) It is presumed tbat the Hoo'ble The Electricity (Supply) Act. 1')48 was Members are referrini to equity partici amended in 1983 tJ provide tor each pation by .privato sector ~ in " the ex~sting State Electricity' Board to carryon its Central Public Enterprises~ There is no operations and adjust its tariffs in such a sucb general schetne at present under the way as to earn a net surplus of 3 (ot considera_tion of th~ Government. ' % sucb hilher percentage as may. be fixed by ", the State ,Gov.emmept) of the net fixed ·(b) to (d). In view of repty to part (a), ,assets at the beginninl of the year. The parts (b), (c). and (d) do not arise. State El'ectricity Boards ba ve been requested to draw up Action PJans ,fot improviDg LOlses in Reyemte from Electricity their' financjat performance. , Co-ot.Jnatlon ,betweeD -Coal ladla 2222." 'SimI DIOVIIAY SINH Limited and Railway. for tr.... Will .the Mioister of ENER.GY be pleased port.tio~ of Coal to state. : 2223. SHill DIOVIJAY SINGH '(a) the total losses ' in, ..revenue from Will the Minister of ENERO Y be. plea.ed elcctrieity in the States of Oujarat, to "ate : 159 WrU',1I AIIIW". NOVE~BBa 18,. 1986 ",It,.. AlI,.,." 160 .. (a) the steps taken in the last lix ,SUSHILA ROHTAGI) :' (a) 'Out' of '2.50 months to . effect better co-ordination unitt of co.. ) fued thermal and _per between Coal India Limited and the . ther.~al ,power stations . under utilitiesl ,,-,ailway~ for more efficient ~ transportation corporation. bav·ina capaci-ty 'of 20 MW ,of. coal; and and above, -165 units have electro-static precipitators. No atation bas equipment to stop bydro-ca~bon em.i.si~ns. (b) whether recentJy there have been acute delays and cQmpl~iDts reaardiol tfansportation or coal? (b) The performance of 71 units, out of 16.$ units provided with electro-static 1:H£ MINISTBR OF ENBRGY (SHRI precipitators is len,erally ,satisfactory. VASAN'r SATHE): (a) and (b): Apart from p'eriodical meetinp . between the (c) Approximately Rs·. 320 crores is . Bnergy Minister and . Minister of State for required for installation of electro-static Railways to review loadinl and sort out precipitators and augmentation/renovation problems it any, reBular monthly meetings of electro-statio' precipitatorS" on the older between Chairman and Managin, Directors units. There is no proposal to install and Chief Operatina Superintendents of equipment controlling laseous emission. Railways are being held for I this purpose. As 8 result of resular interaction between (d) The cost of electricity aeneratioD , the Railways and Coal companies at depends ou various factors and varies different levels,' there has been considerable . from plant to 1'lant. It is, therefore, not improvement in the smooth functioning of possible to indicate the extra cost. involved ~l transporte.tion arranlements. in electricity generation on this account •. lostallation or Eleetro-Statie' Precipl New Industries in Himachal Pradesh tators in Tbermrl and Super "Thermal . Power Plants . , 2225. SHRI K. D~ SULTANPURI 2224. . SHRI DIOVIJAY SINH Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Wi)) the Minister or E~ERGY be pleased to state : ' (a' the details of the proposals sent by (8) out of all the' thermal and 8UJ)er the Government of Himachal Pradesh for thermal power plants, how many have' settinl up of new industries during the Seuentb F,ive Year plan p~riod; installed electro-static precipitators and Ii"'-'·I , how many have. equipment to prevent hydro·carbon emilsioDS: (b) whether ani decision hal. been taken by Government thereon; and (b) what.is the Ita~4= of functioning of individual units; (c) the di.tricts whe're these industriea wiJl be 'et up ? (c) 'wbat would' 'be' tbe financial . requirements for ensuring' stoppinl of .both THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE particulate a'nd la&eOUI emissions from DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRI4.L thermal plants; and DBVELOPMENT IN THE.MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY . (SHRI M. A RUNA (d) if· these costs are imposed' on the CHALt\M) : (a) to (c). The proposals c l'0wer units tbemselves how mucb more relating to the SeveJltb PJ·aa for indultr Y win ,electr~city CO&tl'l ' and miner,~ls. sector submitted by the.' Government of Himachal' Pradesh' were . TUB MINISTER OP ST ATE IN THE discussed ill the PJanniq Comm'ilsion and ·DEPARTMENT· OF 'POWER IN THE the folJowiog, outJays .were ftll'ced to for !dl~lSTRY OF BNEROY. (SHRIMATI the Seventh Plan perjod:- , ~ , " .. KARnKA,27, 1908 (~AKA) Wrltt,n An,wers 162 Seventh Plan outlay Scheme-wise details of th~se outlays (Ra. in laths as furnished by tbe State Oovt. are liVeD . . in the statement below. . INDUSTRY AND MINE\tALS' Villale and Sman Industries. 1030 The district-wise, location of tbese Larle' and Medium Industries 1461 industries is based on technoeconomic Mining . 150 feasibility and other relevant ", factors {ike , balanced reiional development. which are Total 2641 considered by the State Govts. themselves. Statement Scheme·wi" Details 01 OutltJY81or Ihe Seventh Five Year Plan In Respect of Industries Departmfnt, Government of Himachal Pradesh { . (Rs. I" lakiu) s. No. Ma'me of Scheme SeveJ:\tb Plan (1985-90) 1 2· 3 LAROE AND MEDIUM INDUSTRIES ~: .1. Industrial Area ,400.00 2. . Incentive and SubsidY t 50.00 ~ Arts and Exhibition 40.00 4. Educated Unemployed 5.00 s. MiQor Works 5.00 6. Industrial Cooperatives 1.00 7. Store Purchase OrID. . 25.00 • 8. Strengthening of Directorate 30.00 9. Land Acquisition Office 10.00 10. Investment in Nahan Foundry 80.00 11. Matching Contribution to H. P; F~ c. 150.00 12. Inveitment in H. P. MIDC 400.00 13. Investment in' H. P. State Blectronic Corporation ...... _--165.00 1461.00 YILLAGB AND SMALL INDUSTRIES : 1. Ind\l8triaJ Estate' 80.00 . 163 W,ltt,,, A",w", 'NOVE·MBBR. 18, 1986 ",11",. A...,." 1~4 1 .. ~ 1 2 3 2. Incentive and Subsidy 10.00 3. Quality Marking 10.00 4. Tool Room/Common Facility Centres· 10.00 5. Oistrict Industries Centres 350.00 6. Marain Money t 7. Investment in H. p. Handicrafts and Handloom Corporation 45.00 8. Orant in aid to H. P. H &HC 60.00 9. Rebate on Handloom Products 10.00 10 .. Development of Handloom arid Textile Industry 20.0() 11. Opening of Carpet Centres 20.00 12. Grant in aid to Khadi and Village Industries Board 80.00 13. Rebate on Gandhi Jayanti 20.00 14. Sericulture Industry 85.00 IS. Indo-German Dbauladhar Project 3.00 16. Tea Industry 100~00 17. Investment in H. P. Small Scale Industries and Export Corporation 2S.00 . 18. Raw Material Depots 20.00 19,. Consultancy Fee 5.00 20. SubSidy to Cooperative Societies 1030.00 Mineral Development ., ----150.00 Grand Total 2641.00 ------~--- Action Plan to Improve Productivity (a) whether the National Productivity 2226. DR. G. S. RAJHANS .: Council has advised the industries to SHRIGURUDASKAMAT: prepare action plan to improve producti. SHRI MURLIDliAR MANE : vity; . SHRI s. M. GURADDI: SHRI G. S. BASAVARAJU : (b)' if so, full details of the aUiditinea Win the Minister of. INDUSTRY be . issued by the Natiol1al Productivity Council pleased to state : iqJbis rellard; . . . . Wrlden Answers t 66 (c) bow many industries have prepared (b) and (c). Coal India Limited have such plans and whether" Government have invited tender~ for opening of 'stockyards cummod the action plans su~mitted by at Kota and Bh~ratPur in Rajasthan. The such indus~ries; ~nders are likely to be .finalised shortly. (d) whether Government pla~s to Statement Itrenltben its machinery to monjtor the implementation of the action plans; and Statement Showing StockyardJ Operated by Coal India Limited, aJ (e) to whet extent the production in on 30.9.1986. various industries will be increased 7 WEST ~ENOAL THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THE· 1. HowraJl· DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 2. Sh ibpurc~ar DEVELOPMENT IN THE MIN1STRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. 3. Sonai CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. National ~ Productivity Council do not advise 4. Chetla industries directly to prepare action Plans~ s. Ultadanga It is an autonomous .. Qrganisation and provides training, consul taney . and research 6. Midnapore services on request. It also creates awareness about improving productivity 1. Maida through seminars and conferences aad 8. Krisbnanagar takes up productivity improvement studies at Unit level. 9. Burdwan 10. Serampore (b) to (e). Do not arise. 11. Ka'na [Trans /a t ion] 12. Uluberia Coal Yards 13. Howrah (lndl) 2227. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER 14. Bolpur JAIN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : 1 S. Kalyani 16. 24-Pg$ (N) (a) the names of cities in the country where there are coal-Yards; . 17. Jhargram 1 S. Hooghly (JndI) (b) whether it is proposed to .set up a 19. Canning coal.yards in any qity of l\aja~tban; and 20. N. J. P. (c) if so, in whloh city and when 'l 21. 24·Pgs(S> THE MINISTER. OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) There are 43 22. Cal-So West stockYards of Coal India Limited (as on PUNJAB 30.9.86) located in· various parts of the "Country. Besides these 43 stockyards, 23. M-ondi Govindgarh there are 20 national stockyards also. Tbe location of 43 stockyards ope:ated by Coal 24. pathankot India Limited is li~en in the statement below, 2S. Bhatinda 16' WrItten A'lSweri HARYANI,\ (b) the time' -by which ibis w~rk will begin in Barmer {Rajasthan), Mathura 26. Hilsa. ·(U P.) and Kobima (Nalaland) and when it is lit'ely to be cotnp\eted fully '1 17. Ballab&arb " . 28. Babaduflarb THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 29; lagadhri (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DaV): (a) UNION TERITOR Y The project Estimates for Kobima, BarilJcr and Mathura secondary areal bas been 30. ('bandigarh sanctioned on loss basis. Nainital projc,t , estimate is also sanctioned .. Buildinls at .MADHYA P~ADESH 'stations in Kohima are completed. A few 31., Gwalior buildings in Nainital. and Mathura are made ready. At remaining stations, 'work 32. 'Indore i~ in progress Some technical problems ORISSA. in frequancy have beeD solved as an interim measure. Indigenous power plants are 33. Cuttack, under installation in Kohima. UTT AR PRADESJ{ (b) The work is planned to begin in 34. Varanasi Jaunary J 987 in Kohima Receipt of exchange equipment for. B(.lrmer, Mathura and 35. Gorakhpur ~ainital is awa!ted. All efforts are being' 36. Kat1Pur made to ,complete the works early in spite of nonavailabiJity of the required 'posts. 37. Ohaziabad 38, Aligarh survey and Drilling by ON·GC and Oil India in Rajasthan Gujarat and Uttar 39. Saharanpur Prade.sh '. 40. Robertsganj 2229. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER Will Minister of 41. Firozabad' . JAIN': the PETROLEUM. AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to BIHAR state : 42.. Hazaribagb (a) the amount provided by the Oil ANDHRA PRADESH and Natural Gas Commission and Oil India Limited during the Soeventb Five Year Plan 43. Hy.derabad. fer carrying out survey" drilling, etc. to fiffd oil and gas in Rajasthan, Gujarat and [English] Uttar Pradesh; . Integrated Telecommunication Net- amount actually spent and the ;> work Programme (b) the details' of achievements in this regared upto 2228. SHRI· VIRDHI CHANDER September, 1986; JAIN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA. TIONS be pleased to refer to the reply (c) whether it' is a' fact that in given to Unstarred Question No. J 888 on , Rajasthan the acbievements are dismal due 20 July, 1982 and Unstarred Question No. to reduced plan outlays; and 224 t on 6 August, 1985 regarding Integra. ted Telecommunication' Network Pro (d) if so, whether Government will gramme and state; rec.onsider their decision and increase the plan ou tJays? , (a) the progress made so far in tbe expansion and development of the integra .. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ted prosra mme'; and MINISTRY OF PETIWLEUM AND . t<:Aa.trt<.A i.7, i 908 (SAkA) Written Answer, i 10 NA1uaAL "GAS, (SHR,I BllAHMA THE· MINISTER OF STATE OF tHB l)UTT): (a) and (b). 'FIle details are MINlSTtly OF PETROLEUM AND a8 follow8 : NATUllAL GAS (SRal. BRA-HMA'· DUTT) : (8) .Eor indigenisation and import substitution, ONGC and OIL placed orders (Rs". crores) . worth about Rs. 2050 crores on Indian VII Plan Expe~di ture. parties d'urinl the last three years. outlay in 1 )85.86 (b' and '(c). Go~emm~nt have already approved 1 7 proposals for foreign collabora. (i) Rajasthan' 107.88 24.62 "dons fat drilling servic~s. Of these 13 are for sett ins up joint ventures and 4 for (ii) Gujarat 426.80 1 S4.26 technical collaboration. - . S.7S (iii) U. P. Not jndicate~ (d) ONOC is, at present. engaged in -----_.-.'_._- drilling in Upper 'Assam, Assam-Arakan Details of the physical' achievement (Naga Hills, "Cach'ar and Tripura). Bengal. during 1985·S6.and April-Sept. 1986 are Krit.hna-Oodavari (Af)dhra -Pradesh), Cau as under: very (Tamil Nadu), Cambay, Kutch aO,d Saura~htra (Oujarat), Rajasthan, Himalayan FDot Hills and Ganga Valley (Himachal Uttar Rajasthan Gujarat Pradesh & ·Bihar), East Coast and West Pradesh Coast offshore. Drilling is iikely to be undertaken in Bengal offshore ard in Jammu (i) Seismic ·2853 5849 11822 1929 soon. surveys SLK + Lit SLK SLK Oil India Ltd. is at present ca.rrying out (ii) 'No, of' 3 183 drilling in Rajgarh, Tinali, ShaJmari. wells Bogapani, Duarmara, Dipling, Jorajan, dirlled Moran and Nahorkatia in Assam; Kbarsang in Arunachal Pradesh and in East Coast t offshore including Andamans. Drilling is ' (c) and (d). The progress of explora- likelY to be undertaken in Kvmchai and tion in Rajasthan is as planned. K'barsang in Arunacnal Pradesh; D igbaJia and Sapekha ti in A,ssam;' Orissa onshore Joint Venture for Driliing Operations and Rajasthan also. I 2230. SHill P. M. SAYEBD: Win Solar Power Plant Commissioned by ~ the Minister of PE1ROLEUM AND DUEL NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 22~ 1. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will . (a) the foreign excha~ae saved durina _. the Minister of ENERG Y be pleased to the last three) ears in the 'oil sector due to state: indigenis~tion and import substitution in ,procurement '.of Votb equipment and (a) whether Bharat Hea~y Electricals servh:es; Ltd. haB recently commissioned a solar plant; (b) whether Government are consider jni any proposal for joint ventures and' (b) if so, the detaHs of its, desjgninl~ technical collaboration in developing drilling capacity and working and fu1i1re prospects services to locate natura) gas and oil; for -settina up similar plants; aod ' f ' (c) if so, the details thereof; and (c)' the total cost and recurrina • • expenditure, jf any, on such plants? (~) the precise places where dril1ing is actively going at ptesent and al80 where THE MINISTER OF ENERGY ~SHRI drilling is likely to be undertaken Boon? VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. , t 11 Writte" A"lWer8 w,it,." Answer, 112 (b) The solar thermal power plant is by the industrial maouCacturini units to lor experimental purposes. It is based on reduce energy co~sumpdon ' While th~ point-focussiDl .distribu~cd receivers aqd a·, larger units would be expected to 'build up centralised enline generator. It incorporates in-hous.e capabilities for the purpose, the six numb:rs of solar Heliodisb concentrators small and m,cdium scale units may have to " of 9 Metre diameter each with SO Sq. rely 'on . the expertise of consultancy Meter effectiv·e reflectinl surface.' Steam is organisations. The objectj~c is to pinpoipt Icnerated at SO(}oC and 70 bar pressure the areas where the use of energy can be through a focally mounted single pass rationalized in a cost effective manner. cavity type r:ceiver and is fed into ft centrally located reciprocating steam engine . (c) Import of tecbnical' know-how which in turn drives an alternator. The may be required in specific cases involving . load management and all other 'con tro Is complex and sophisticated manufacturing .. inclu4ing doubl~ axis tracking is' monitored process. and regulated by computer syst"em. The power plant bas been d~sign'ed to deliver Avalhibility of Natural Gas in Gujarat- 22 KWe maximum at 8{)O W/M2 'direct insolation. Trial runs are being cerried out on the system 'and its working will t?e 2233. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will know.' only after reguhr operation of 'the the Minister of PETROLEUM AND ·aystem. Future prospects for settiQK up NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: . similar plants will depen'ed on the assess- ment of the performance of this ~lant. (a) what ate the prospects of getting natural, gas in the state of Gujarat for industrial use; (c) The recurring' expenditure on such plants is expected to be minimal as there is no recurring' fuel costs. The ',initial (b) the pricing policy for supply of costs w('uld depend on volume of 'produc gas to the consumers for manufacturing tion. These aspects will be assessed after purposes; and gaining adequate operating experience in • thIs experimental plant. (c) the. approximate time by which natural gas would be made available- '1 Reduction in Energy Consumption in ' Indo'stri~1 Manuf~ct1lring Units THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 2232. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will NATURAL GAS lSHRI BRAHMA the Minister of ENBRGY be pleased to DUlT): (a) to (c). The geological state: reserves of ga s in Oujarat, as on 1. f. 1 986 have been estimated as about 19 million (a) whether Government propose to tonnes. The gas currently being obtained introduce a SystCID in the industrial manu in Oujarat region is already being supplied facturing units witb a view to' reduce to various industries. The actural quantity energy conftump\ion; of gas that would be available in future would depend on the fesu It. of exploratory I (b) if so, tbe details of the .ystem; developmental work being now carried out. and The Government are considering the (c) whether any import of technicar issue of pricing ,of natural gas for various know-how is required for the purpose 'l uses. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Nor-Implementation of Tribunal Award . by Collieries DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN, "[HE , . MIN.1STRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUHSILA ROHATAOI): (a) and (b). 2234. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will Government is keen to ~nsure that a system the Minister of ENER.GY be pleased to of cnerl)' reportiol and auditins is adopted state : 173 "rilt,,, A,.,wer, , .ltARTlKA 27, 1908 (SA~A) Written· Answ,tl 114· . . (a) whetber the caSes of about 427 (e) No,. Sir. There is no direction to workers of North Brook Colliery, Ratibaty make such .payment. Colliery and Monohar~al Colliery were' . (f) abd (I).. ' Would not referred' to the Central Government Indalt. arile. rial Tribunal by the R.L C. (C), Asans01; Import of Captive Power Plant Equip ments • I '(b) 'whether the tribunal lave Award for re.instatement of those retrenched 2235. SHR'I V. S. KRISHNA IYBR : workmen; . SHRI S. 'PALAKONDRAYUDU: DR. SUDHIR ROY : (c) if 80,"whethcr t~e workmen have been re.instated by the manalement; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be (d) if nof, the action Oovernm~nt pleased t~ state :- propose to . take fO.. r nOD,~ implementation of the Tribunal Award and also to ascertain (a) whether approval bal been given tbe reas('n thereto; to the import of captive power plant equipments; (e) if re-instatement order hal not been issued as yet, whether any relief in the (6) if so, the details theref including form of subsist.ence is being given to the criteria adopted for according approval; them; and 'Cf) if so, when; and (.c) whether Bharat Heavy ElectdcaJs Ltd. is in a position to supply these captive (g) if not, the reasons therefot '1 power plants and if 80, the reasons for allowing the import? THE MINISTBR OF ENERGY S. No,_ !Name of the Party Value Country ·1 2. 4 1. M Is Indian Petro-Chemicals US.$ 182,64,840 USA Corporation Li~ited, Baroda , 2. MIs Madras Refineries lY 1043,3399 Japanl Limite,d. Madra, P13L. 6,0074 Holland 175 W"ttell A,esw", NOVEMBER 18.. 1986 I' 2 3 4 ' 3. Mfs RCDu8"11ar power Co , Rs. 1014,,1'4 la08 aDR Renukoot 4."" ,MIs Hindustan Petroleum JY 3,611,801,563 Japan Corporation Limited, Bombay S. MIs National Fertilizers ~ JY 2,593,444,621 Japanl Limit,ed, Panipat. AS 17,21,53,000 & Austria RI. 2,48,59,416 6. ' Mfs Nationa,) 'Fertilizers' IV 2,593,444,62,. , Japan/ Limited, Dba linda AS '~ 7,2 t ,53,000 " Austria Rs .2.48,59,416 Telepbone Directory of Bangalore City Conversion of Bang. lore Telephone loto , Corporation 22,36. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYBR : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 2227. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER : be pleased to state: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: ' (a) tbe total expenditure insurred on the pre,paration of Telephone Directory of (a) whether a large number 0& comp. Bangalore City of 1986 by Bangalore Tele laints have been received from the public phone; abollt the inefficiency of Bangalore telephbnc exchanges; and (b) whether these Directories arc pre pared every year; (b) . whether there is any proposal to covert Bangalore Telophones into an auto (c) whether. it is necessary to prepare nomous Corporation as in Bombay to it every year; and provide better s~rvice8 to 'the customers? (dJ if so, the reasons thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) No, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Sir. (SHItI SONTOSH MOHAN OaV): (a) Tbe total expenditure likely to be incurred (b) No. Sir. There is no proposal,to for the preparation of the telephone direc convert Bangalore Telephones into an ,auto- ' tory 1986 issue of Bangalore City by nomous Corporation. ' Bangalore Telephones i. about Rs~ 24 'Iakhs•. Oil and Gas Reserves '(b) Yes, Sir, 2238. SHRI, MURLI DBORA: Will (c) Yes, Sir. the Minister of, ,PBTROLBtJM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state ~. , " . (d) This is necea•• ry due to commission ina of new exchanges and/or expansion of existing ones involving area tr.ansfers, , (a) whether Government have estimated inter-exchange shifts of telephone numbers the oil and 18S reserves in tbo country: necessitating incorporation of new addresses and telcpboDO n\lmborl. (b) it 80. tho details tbereof. 1 71 Wrltte" ,(I,,,,,r, KARTIKA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written AII'w,,, t 18 .. (c) the J)t'oJecti~ns for exploration and (c) and >(d). The Telecom. Directo~~te coosumption of oil and gas at" tb~ turn' of bas :issued orders for, reorganisinJ ""~U the century; and Telecom Circles: and Major/Minor' Te1e phone Districts on' the basis of. Slconda..y (d) in view of the steep faU in w?rld Switching Areas as basic units of Manate oil prices; wbetlier Government are conside ment. Secondary Switching Areas ,are arees . demarcated under the Natiott~ T,e1eph:Qno , ,~ ring slowing down the exploration p1ana, ~ Switching ,Scheme. Each $eeondary ~~ ,,"~ generally consists of one' or two ~evenue, , THB MINISTER OF STATB OF 'IHE Districts. Under the Reorganisation ScpeQ1e MINlSTRY OF PETROLEUM AND referred to a hove, each Secondary Area win NATURAL "GAS (SHRl BRAHMA have a Telecom. District. The rank ot the nUTT) : (el) ,Yes, Sir. Officer Incharge of the Telecom. ~istrict will depend on the work load in the A~ea. (b) As on 1.1.86, the recoverable re" A Telecom. ·District will have independent serves arc: status so IOllg as the rank of the Officer . Inchorge is that of a Senior Time Sca]e Crude oil·: 5S 3 million tonnes; and Officers, a Junior Administrative Grade Naturai Gas: 481 billion ~ubic meters. Officer or a Senior Administrative' Grade Officer as justified by workload in each. If however, .he workload in some of (c) Such projections for expl~ration these Telecom. Diitricts arc insufficient to are not available. However, the e~tlmatec1 . justify an ind ependent Telecom. District demand for petroleum products 1S 87.70 Engineer, (at the' level of a Senior Time minion tonne& during 1 99 9-~QOO. Scale Officer) then s,' few of them will be grouped together. As and when there is (dl No, Sir. growth in any of the Telecom. Districts so grQuped to justify an independent Telecom. [Translation] District' Engineer, then such districts will be separated out and placed under an indepon Setting up of Two New D.E.T. Offices dent Officer. in Uttar Pradesh Under this scheme, opening of new Telegraph Enginee{ing DivisioQs or Tele 2239. SHRI HARISH RAWAT ~ Will' phone Divisions will Dot arise as al1 new the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Management Units will· be Telecom. pleased to state .: Districts only. To cater to the needs of organisational expansion, the status of the (a) whether a proposal to set up two Officer incharge will be raised as and when new D.E.T. (Divisional Engine"er Tele there is adequate growth and development; phones) Offices in Uttar Pradesh circle ha~ ,subject to the guidelines en 'ban' orders. been pending with the department for a Opening or Post Offices, SU'b Post long time; Of6ces and Bra ncb Post Offices in Uttar Pradesh (b) if 80, the reasons for' deJay in 2240. SHRt H:AR:ISH RA\\AT : Will open iDa these new divisions; the Minister of" COMMUNICATIONS be : pleased ·to state: ' (c) whether thes~ divisions are proposed to be opened during Seventh plan; ,and '(a) whether t~e number of Post Offices, Sub-Post Offices and Branch POlt Offices in (d) if SO, by what" time" ? Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh arid Bihar i~ much Jess as comgared to other States; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DBV): (a) " {b) the names of p1ace where additional, No, Sir. Post Offices, Sub-Post Offices and Branch Post Offices are proposed to be opened in (b) In view of the reply at (a), the Utter' Pradesh durins the Seventh Five Year question does not arise. Plan ? 1-79 NOVEMBER. 18. 1986 L8.O 'w"",,, "'WI" . ' W,'tte" Answer, THE ,MTN,ISTBR. OF' Sr;.1'E tN THE Postal Development in Uttar Pradesh and MlNISTll"i ,O,p COMMUNICATJONS Bihar can, be considered to be reasonably (lilaI .,SOMTOSH MOHAN DBV): (a) good. In Madhya Pradesh also the po,ition Poeta.l do"JQpmeot .is measured lenerally in is generally actisfactory even though 00 torma of tho averale area and population' accc;»unt of the lower, density of popuiation Mrved by a "POlt oftlce ' As on 11.1.86, <)18 persons pet sq. km as agatnst 377 for ,. ill the' COW¥ry II a whole a pelt office Uttar Prades and 402 for Bihar> post offices ICI'wd OD aver.. e 21.94 aq. "kma and 4 7 4 8 are situated farther ,apart than in,the case people. The 'correspondiol figures for. of the, ot ber Sta tea. Uttar Pradesh, Bihar aDd Madhya Pradesh .1" aa f.llewl : AVerage Avcraae (b) The comparative fi8ures are· furnish area per population ed in the Statement below. . As regards P.O. (Sq. per Post' openinl. of new post offices, on account of Kms) Office the continuing ban on creation of posts, . U1tar Pra4esb 16.22 ,,61.08 ' there is no programme at present for open 15.98 6428 ing of post' officee in tJttar Pradesh or 'in ... otlier States. YadbJa ,Pradesh 42.30. -_--_--4974 Statement Co""arat'~' Stote 0/ Postal Development in the different Circles (As 011 ~1.3.1986) -Il. No. Circle No. of Average Average post area per population offices post office per Post (Sq. Kms.) Office 1. Andbra Pradesh 16171 17.0 . 3310 2. Bihar 10868 15.98 " 6428 3. Delhi S74 2.45 11446 4. Gujarat 8596 22.94 . 3986 5. J,&' K. 1452 113.78 4114 6. Karnataka 9534 8.18 5.357 7. Kerala 4746 20.11 3884 8. Madhya Pradesh 10489 42.30 4914 9. Maharashtra 11965 25.96 5319 . 10. North Bast 5641 44.89 4548 11. North 'Nest 8697 17.27 3933 12. Orilla 7S3S 20.60 2~11 t 3. Rajasthan 9616 34.40 5919 14. Tamil Nadu 12006 10.88 4084 15. Uttar Pradesh 18127 16.22 6108 16. West Bengal 8309 12.44 6610 All-India 1,44,332 21.94 4148 ' iS1 Written Answerl tARtlKA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Wrllten An,we" i ,l' LPG Agencies In Hilly Areas of Uttar [English] , - . Pradesh - Rlblie Corporation for Calcutta lad Madras Telepbone SyltelDS 224.1. SHal HARlSH RAWAT : Will 2Z4i3. 6HR.1 SOMNATH CHATTER- the Minister ,of -PSTROLBUM AND J~B : Will tbe Minister of COMMUNICA. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : T·IONS be pleased to atate': (a) whether Government are co.nside (a) the nnmber of telephone eonnectionl ring • ,a proposa 1 to permit the a utboriscd in Calcutta. ' Bombay. Delhi and Madras . respectively; -, LPG agenc,ies in hilly areas of Uttar Pradesh to ,Iupply cooking gas in rural areas from (b) the total investmen'" made by the the plesent distribution centres through Government for the proper runnins, moder mobile vans so as to reduce the pressure on ni~ation and expansion of the telepbon. , forests for meeting the requirement of fuel; systems in the said different cities·city.wisc and year-wise since 1980. (b) if so, whether transportation charses - likely to be incurred thereon would be met (cl whether there is any proposal to by- Government; and bring Calcutta and Madras tel epbonel "l tem under any public corporation like Delbi and BombaYi and ' (c) if no, the reasons thereof? (d) if so, frorp which date ? THE MINISTER OF ST A TB IN THE THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAlIMA DUTT): (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (e> (a) In order to improve th~ availability of The number of telephone connections LPG in the hilly aTeas, IOC was pe~mitt-ed working in Calcutt~t Bombay. Delhi aDd in 1985 to authorise the distributing Madras a, on. 31.1 0.86 are as follows: asepcies . in the Kumaon and Oarhwal Calcutta 204973 regions of Uttar Pradesh to supply LPG in Bombay 410841 .towns close to existing 'markets. Delhi 314169 Madras 119492 ~b) and (c). No, Sir. The extra delivery cost is to be'recovered from the consumers (b) The total investment 'made by the based on the delivery charges fixed by the Government for proper running; modernisa. District Collector/Civil Supplies Authorities tion and expansion of the teJephone -system s since. the supplies are made beyond the in the above cities, yoar-wise since 1980 prescribed marketing zones. is as follows : ' (in lakhs of rupees) Calcutta Bombay Delhi Madras 80-8,1 1103 3361 2705 711 81·82 1902 S106 3491 764 82-83 268,9 6786 7271 1951 83.84 - ·2956 10693 5339 3923 84;'85 4237 1060S 8376 24'12 85.86 3880 10S10 9533 3249 ~.besc figures exclude the 'pay and allowances of the Staff. 1 U Wrltt'" Answer, Nov~MBBR. 18; 1~86 Wrliten AlIIWer. 184., Cc) and (en. No decision bas been taken PRISES IN THB MINISTRY OP i~ this regard so far. INDUSTRY (PROF. K., K. TBWARY): (~) to (c). The ~rrormance .of Central Deootiffcatioo of Industries taken Over Public' Enterprises are ~valuatcd at periodic intervals by the concerned Administrative 2244. SHRI SOMNATH"CHATTER. Min\stries/Departments and approgriatc JEE.: Will the Minister of INDUSra.Y be step,' ar,e taken to improve the' performance pleased to state : wherever found necessary. As a number' of enterprises aro "involved and tbc performance appraisal is also done on a continuous basi,S, . (a) bow many industrial units, the it is not' practicable to list out the results management of, which had been tilken over' of such pcrf(lrmaD(,c reviews and the 'steps under the Ittdustries (Development . and ·taken in individual cases to improve the Regulation) Act, have since been denoti· perform.ance. tied; On an annual basis, the Oovl. 31so (b) the Dumber of such industries w.hich placCb before Parliament a comprehensive have since been closed down and have gone report on the working of the Central Public into liquidati~n; and '~nterprises during the Budget Session covering the various aspects of public sector (c) the tolal number of employees and . perfQrmance, steps taken to improve the. workers who have lost employment due W same etc. The Report for 1984-85 was such de-notification ., placed on the Table of lhe House in February, 1986. The Report for 1985·86, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE is also scheduled to be placed before the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Parliament in the ensuing Budget Session. DEVELOPMENT.IN THB MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM); Waiting List for Telephone Connections io Nagpur (a) and (b). Six induf;trial units taken over under the provisions of Industries (Dl:velop 2246. SHRI BANWARI LAL ment and Regulation) Act have since been PUROHIT: Will the Minister of COMMU.. donotified and passed into liquidation. NICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) The total number of affected em- . (a) the position about the w3iting list ployees is approximately 4,233, accQrdiag for tel~phone connections in Nagpur to available data. ' (Maharashtra) as on 31 st October, .l986; and Efaluation of Performance of Public ,. Enterprises (b) the efforts made to cloar the waitins 224S. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: Jist? . " Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state: THE MINISTER. OF STAtTE IN THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether the. pereformance of all (SHRI ,SONTOSH MOHAN nEV): (a) the public sector enterprises has recently The position of waiting list for telephono' been evaluated by G~vernment; . connections as on 31.10.1986 in Nagpur .is ' as follows: (b) if so, the restilts thereof; and OYT 901 (c) the action proposed to be taken by Spl. 1162 Government in respect of the loss incurring units '1 Oenl. ----..---,- 7546 THE MINISTER OF STA TB IN THE Total: - 9609 DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER·, --._,~ .... - i 8 S W,ltt,II. AII8W'~' Written k,M"" 186 (b) New -exchanges are bfin, installed . (d) if 1110, the details regarding tbe aod tbe' existing exc\laoges are being expand.. scheme of Government in this regard? ed wherever feasible to' clear tb~ waitinl' Jitt depending upoq' availabilhy of THE MINISTER 01: STATE IN THB rasour;es.' DEPARTMENT OP INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT THE MINISTRY OF SetllD'g UP of Public Sector Industry in IN ADBotapur District ' . INDUSTRY (SHRI M.'" ARUNA. , CHALAM) : (a) The fbllowins 18 2247. SH·RI. K. RAMACHANDRA Districts in Madhya Pradesh have been REDDY: Will tbe Minister of INDUSTRY declared as 'No-Indu-;try Districts' : be pleased to state: 1. BaJaghat (a) wbether the. Union· Govertfment have any plan to start in.dustries on large 2. Bbind scale in chronic drought affected areas in 3. Chbatarpur the COl\ntry; 4. Cbbindwara (b) whether Anantlpur district is a famine affectC'd area; and 5. Damoh' (c) if so, whether Union Government 6. Datia propose to· star~ some big industry there in 7. Dhar the ,public sector? 8. Ouna TfIE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH~ DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER· 9. Jbabua PRISES IN THE Ml~lSTRY OF 10. Mandla INDUSTRY (PROF. K. K. TEWARY): (a) to (c). The investment decisions of 11. Narshinhapur Central Government in the industrial fieid. 12. Panna ar ~ based mainlY on techno-economic considerations. Relief for drought, flood 13. Rajgarh etc. cannot be mixed up with investment in industries but has to be tackled on a diffe. , 14. Seoni rent footing. 1 S. Shivpuri 'No Industry' Districts in MacJ,bya 16 . Sidhi . Pradesh and Scheme for Setting up Small Scale Industries 17 .. Surguja and 2248. SHRI PARASRAM BHARD. 1.8. . Tikamgarh. WAJ: Win the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) Twelve r.pp1i~ations received under , the provisions of 1 (0 & R) Act; 19S1 for (a) the number and names of no.. lhe grant of letters of intent for location of industO" districts in Madhya. P~adesb; Industries in the 'No 1ndustrY Districts' of Madhya Pradesh are at various stages of lb) the proposal uQder consideration of considera t i on. Union, Government for settina up biB and small scale industries in these 'no-industry' districts: ' . . ' Information relatina to setting up of small scale units in· the States is not cent- (c) whether Union Government have rally maintained. ' recently r~viewed. ~he posit'ion in co~sulta tion with the Planning Commission for (c) No, Sir. setting up small' scale. indqstries ,in 'no ndustry' districts of Madhya Pradesh; and , (d) Do~s .Dot arise. Wrlnen Anlwers. t g8 .,Isae' or Comm~morative Postal,Jitamps THE MINISTER OF StATE IN THE MINISTRY t:>F LAW' AND JUSTICE , 2249., PROF. NARAIN C,HAND (~HRI H. 'R. BHARDWAJ) : (8) No, Sir; , PARA'SHAlt :. Will the Minister ,of COM~lJNICATIONS be pl,~ased to (b) In India, the branch of Law state: relating (0 Civil Wrongs or the Law of' 'Torls' as 'they are more commonJy known, (a) whether the issue of Commemorative is based on tlj.e Common Law of Bngland. stamps in Ole next three years has' been As in England and Sev.era 1 other countries , planned; foHowing the Coolmon Law. the Law of Torts is not codified in Inaia and continue <(?) if so, the details there,of indicating to 'be governed by the principles of "equity t the events selected for this purpose; justice and good" conscience" excepting some parts which have been regulated by (c) whether ~he Action Plan includes statutes such as the Fatal Accidents Act" events lik.e 40th year of the India's 1855 which provides for compensation t~ lodependence, SOt h year of the first fan1i1ies for losses ~ccasioned by 1he death Nationa'1 Committee on planning set up by of a perSOll caused by an actionable wrong; Netaji Subhasb Chandra Bose in t 9 38 and ,\hc Carriers Act, 186S which Inter-alia Birth 'Centenaries of ~hri Jawahar]al Nehru, deals with the liability of common carriers Maulana Azad and Shri Oobind . Ballabh for ]OS8 of or damage to property delivered Pant; and to them !lS a reslllt of negligence etc; the Workmen's Compensatiol' Act, 1923 and the Employer's Liability Act, 1983 which (d) if not. the reasons therefor inter-alia. bar the defen~ of comnlon employment i. e. defence that the injury THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has been c,lused by a fellow-employee in MiNISTRY OF COMMUNICATION') the case qf personal injury sustained ,by a (SHRI SON10SH MOHAN DEV): workman and the Specific Relief Act,' 1963 which inter-alia, provides for rem,edies' by (a) The programme for issue of way of perpetual or mandatory injunctions commemorative stamps in the next three which can be availed of for wrongs of a years has not so far been finalised. continuous nature. Furlher9 some of the enactments enacted in ,the field of labour (b) to (d). Does not arise jn view of and employer-employee relations hav~ also (a) above. a bearing on tll~ law of Torts or Civil , Wrong§ in the sense tqat these enactments Codi8cation of Laws on Civil Wrongs statutorUy define the duty" of care required on the part of the employer. Some special types· of rights such as infringment of 2250. SHRI SHANTARAM NA:IK: patents right~bave also been dealt with in Will the,Minister of LAW ,AND JUSTICE particular enactm'ents such as the Patents be pleased to state : Act, 1970; ta) whether the entire Law on civil (c) There is no proposal under wrongs ha,s been codified in the country; consideration of t~e Government to codify the uncodified. part of Civil' Wrongs or Torts; . (b) the aspects which are not codified. as yet; (d) Does not. arise. Deli~e~siDg of Chemical Products (c) whether there is any proposal to codify the uncodified part of law on civil 2251. SHRI S. M. GURADOI : wronss; and SH&I ,H. N. NANJE GOWDA: ' (d) if so, 'whether a bill to that effect Will the .Minister of INDUTR Y be ;6ready 1 pleased to state· : 189 Wrltt.n Answ", KARTIKA' 2.7. 1'908 (SAKA) W,IUfll AII.fw,r, 1 90 . (a) whether Government bav~' taken a f~om Dutch Windmills ror'· instal1atior. of decision, regarding', broad-bandiog and complete turnkey projects for wind power delicensing .for a wide range 'of c.bemical generation in Hill areas of Ut'tar Pradesh products; . and G ujarat. ' ( b) if so, whether the deliceosing (b) and (c). Does not aris,e. provisions h~ve ',been extended to 17 chemi cals under 1be broad ca-tegories of inorganic Declara tion or Andhra Pradesh as and orlanic heavy chemicals; Indusfrially Backward Area '. ,(c) if so, the main, reasons of this 2253. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Witt decision and to what extent this decision the Minister of INDlJSTR Y be pleased' to state : will he)p Government; and (d) tho effect· of the decision, on the (a) whether Union Government propose chemica 1 projects '1 to declare tbe entire Andhra Pradesh as • •In~ustrial1y bacRward area taking into THE MINISTER OF STATE IN' THE consideration the low per capita invest DEPARTMENT OF CHEMicALS AND ment for industry and the unemployment PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MlNISTRY problem in the State; and OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAI- CHANDRA SINGH) (a) and (b). Yes, (b) if so, details thereof and the time Sir. by which Government are likely to take a final decision in this respect? (c) and (d). The step follows the' general poliCY of, the Government for, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE encouraging' an, environnlent of gro')Vth, DEPARJMENT OF INDUSTRIAL investment, production and competi tiveness DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY in the industry and will give an incentive OF INDUSTRY (SHltI M. ARUNA to the chemical industry for, updating CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. technology and effecting modernisation. (b) Does not arise. Dutch Windmills Offer for Turnkey P~ojects for Electrifying and Pumping Water in Hill areas Sett iDg up of Gobar G~s Plants in Andhra Pradesh. 2252. SHRI S.'M. GURADDI : Will the Minister' of ENERGY be pleased to 2254. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will state: the Minister of ENEROY' be pleased to state : (a)' whether Dutch. Windmills have submitted a detailed proposal for installa (a) the targets fixed for the setting up tion of cpmplete turnkey projects. in the of gobar gas phDts in Andhra Pradesh hill areas .of Uttar Pradesh and Gujarat' during the Sixth Plan period; States for power generation; (b) the target fixed for the tribal and , .(~) whether the report has been backward areas in the State and the number examined by the Union Government and of 'such plants set up,; the areas in the above two States'selt:cted for this project; ~nd (c) whether, setting qp of such plants (c) the time by whIch' these projects is done by the Uniog GoveromentfState are." likely to be completed? Governme~t or ,by some other agency, if . 80, details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF- ENERGY (aHRl VASANT SATHE): (a) THE MINISTER Of' ENERGY (SHR.t '(d) the details th~eor aDd tbe t~me by VASAN';' SATHE) : (a), A National which Union Government is expected .to Project for "BiOlas' Development which approve that? . eaters to family based biogas plants (Gobar' Gas Plants) was launched in 1981·82.' . THB MINISTER OP STATE IN THE Under this project, a total target of. 37,'00 DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL , biogai plants was fixed (or the State, of DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF Andhra Pradesh for t 981-8 ~ t~ 19 84-8 ~. INDUSTRY (SHill M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (d). The responsibility for develop"ing (b) The targets for setting up of biOlas industries in the States is primsrily. with plat'lts were, not fixed specifically for tribal the respective State Governments. The and backward ateal. However, ·guidelines Central Governments supplements the issued to· the State Governments provid~ efforts of the.Stata·Goveroments. that tOto t S percen~ of the taraet for the State may cover scheduled caste and The SmalJ Industries Service Institute, scheduled tr;be beneticiaries. The State Hyderabad bas c9nducted several types of Government of .4\ndhra . Pr9desh ha' studies/surveys I,ke industrial. ·potential informed tliat a total of 3763 biogas plants , surveys of' areas/districts to determine the were aet up for Scheduleq Caste and type of small scale industries which could Scheduled Tribe beneficiaries and, small be deve)opted in the State. Industrial and marginai farmers during 1982-83 to Potentiat'Surveys of AdUabad, Ananthapur, 1984.8 S. Chittor, Cuddapab, East Godavari, Guntur, Hyderabad, Kerimmezer,' Khammam, (c) Non-Conventional Energy Develop. Krishna, Kurnoo), Mahaboobnagar, Medak, ment Corporation of Andbra Pradesh Ltd., Ne1Jore,.. Nizamabad, SrikakuJam, Hyderabad and Kbadi and Village Industries Visakbapatnam, Warengal, West Godavari Commission, Bombay, are tbe two noJal and F-rakasam districts have been conducted agencies which are setting up biogas plants ' by 1he SISI during difi"eren.t· periods of in the S tate of Andhra Pradesh. time .. (d) There was a shortfall in the The District Industries Centres located achievement of targets i,n the' State of in various districts of the State carry out Andhra Pradesh during the period 1981-82 surveys for identification of small scale to 1984-85. However, targets are fixed on . industries which could be taken up' by annual basis· and the. achievement of t.be . entrepreneurs in their respective districts. State Go'vernment of Andhra Pradesh was more than the tarl~t in 1985-86. The Ministry of Industry bas, however, not received any concrete and comprehen Study of Industrial Potential of sive proposal in this regard. Andhra Pradesh The Plan 'Proposals submitted by tbe 22S S. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will Government of Andhra Pr.adesh Were the }4inister of INDUSTRY be ple;;lsed to discussed in the Planning Commisbion and state : the following· outlays have -been agreed for the Seventh Five Yel1l' 'Plan period:-' (a) whether any study has been made by Union Government . in respect of Seventh Plan outlay i nduatrial ~tential in Andbra Pradesh (R s. in lakhs) for the development of industries using Village and Small loeai raw materials etc.; Industries 9360 (b) if so, the details of the scheme; Medium and large Industries 16210 .. (c) whether Government of Andhra Pradesh have .forwarded any proposal in ---:0---Mining' __ 5'70 this respect for the consideration of the Total: Union Govom~enti· and 31240 ( ') 3 Written A."swer, KARTIKA 27, 1~08 (a) the total nUJllber 01 maGual 1. Arutlai telephone exchanges in Andbra Pradesh; 8'. Loyapa1Ji (b) whether there is a proposa u~der 9. IDderkaran consideration of the Government to convert 10. Gopanapalli tbem into automatic, telephone exchanges; t 1. Domaraspet (c) the number of new telephone 12. Amarabad exchange$ to be' opened 10 Andhra Pradesh; with locatidns thereof; and 13. Pembai 14. ( dhow) • many of' such telephone Neredigondu exchanges will be commissioned by tbe end, 1 S. Babowagar of Seventh Five Year Plan? 16. Birav~Jlj THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 17. NiBuwa MINIStRY OP 'COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHA~ DEV) : (a) 18. ChaIJagariga The total number of manual exchanges in Andhra Pra desh is 1 S 3 • 19 •. Tawai 20. Tadikonda (b) The 7th plan document envisages progressive conversion of some of the 21 • ~agarain manual exchanges into automatic and the lemaining during the 8th pLc..n. In the 7th 22. Muthapalli five year plan, d~trict headquarters and 23. TharikaUu large size manual exchanges are planned for automatisation. 24. M.amagudem (c) The information is given. in the 2S. Va1Jam~i statement below. 2·.6 S'flpuram (d) Subject to availability of demand, 27. Penagadapa financial viability of proposals; about 225 exchanges ore proposed to be commissioned 28. Pedamunagada by t~e end of 7th plan. 29. Rayapuran Statemfot 30. Narayaoapuram The names 0/ places where new 31. Madiram exchanges are proposed to be opelled 32. Nutbankal duting this financial ·year subject to availability demand stores and ~3. Danavaram /inancial villbility tJl the proposals. 34. Agatpotkur ANDHRA PRADESH 3S. Beerpur t . Armeripadu 36. Chilla'pur 2. Ponkeawar ~7. Donsathurtbi 195 W rltt'" AlIswtr. NOVEMBBR. 18. 1986 38. Maltaoalli 73. Mala~apaUi 74. Oosakayalapalli \39. Oovardhagiri , 7 ~'. BondapaUi 40. OdeUa 41. Cbabala Opening of Post Offices in Villages of Uttar Pradesh 42. Narasapuram 43. Garuguchinapalli ],2S.7. SHRt 'KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNI. 44. Kadavakullu CATION be 'pleased to state: 45. Kalipi (a) wheth'er stand'ud norms and pro 46. Kandur cedures for opening of post oUiees in flung backward areas of tbe country have been 47. Lakkanpalli tiberalised;, • 48. Vanamaladonna (b) jf so, the details thereor; 49. Kovanur SO. Chodasamudram' (c) whether all the villages in Uttar Pradesh do not have post offices; and sf. Krishnapuram 52. YS Gate (d) if so, the steps. taken t9 open post offices i,n all the villages in Eastern Uttar 53. Ramasamudram Pradesh and the d istricl-wise details thereof? 54. Devarakonda S S. Pcdathulnbalam THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 56. Vcmpenta (SHRI SQNTOSH MOHAN DEV)": (a) ,S7. Ma ifldalapadu and (b). The norms adopted, by the Department since 1978 for opening of post S8. Nidu~esala offices in backward al}d tribal areas in fact contain substantial rdaxation in respect of Annamedu S9. requirements of min imQm population and 60. Mambattu . mlnlmum re.venue. Whereas in normal rural areas, a village. should have a mini 61. Yellampet mum popijlation of 2,000 to be eligible for a post office, in the case of backward and 62. Settingunta tribal areas, population of. villages with inn 63. Adamil1i 1.S Km. ,of .the main village is aggregated .to make up a minimum populati'on of 1,000. 64. Doarmanidi Further, the minimum revei.~ue expected in' backward and tlibal areas is only 10% of ~S. Anuman Chipalli the cost as against 25'% prescribed for 66. Kanduvu normal rura 1 areas. · 67. Gajjeragu1la The Department is a t present taking a 68. Mogalluru fresh look at the norms for opening of pOClt offices taking into.' account the recommen 'K.anakalagunta 69. dations "of the Co.mmittee of Enquiry into 70. Darbharevinu lA" the e,xtra departmental system, the extent of postal development tbat has takeri place 71. Saraoaapuram in different areas and other relevant factors. However, in so f~u a R tribal and backward 72. Byabi areas are concerned'they will continue to be ., , i 97 Writien Answers KAR.·tlKA 27, 1908 1 2 3 4 S 6 Booked 474 69 44S 60S 1593 Effect,ive 414 SO 302 421 1247 i99 Wfltten Answer, NOVE~BB& 18 t 1986. , .·Jf',itten Answers 200 • 1 2 3 4 ,S 6 , JULY· 1"986 (2.7.1986) - ,- Booked SSs 95 321 157 1794 Effective 55S 79 20S 499 1338 Statement Showing Calls to Calcutta JANUARY 1986 (8.1.1986) Booked 303 60 281 335 '972 Effective 303 48 177 235 763 JULY -1186 (2.7 ..1986) Booked 211 ·117 383 . 475 1166 Effective 211 68 84 139 502 ------Statement-II Statement of Traffic during the Month of September, 1986 Date Total Trunk calls Total Trunk cans Effective Booking chargeable percentage 1 2 3 .4 1.9-86 1'1184 10050 SS.5 2·9-86 18105 10902 60.2 3.9-86 17969 10935 60.9 4~9"86 18'88 1113S 59.9 5 .. 9.86 18191 10800 '9.4 6 .. 9-88 15370 9618 62.'6 1·9-86 13059 8695 66.6 8"9-86 16834 10020 59:5 9.,9-86 17730 11096 62.6 10.. 9-86 18133 10940 60.3 11-9-86 18893 11311 59.9 12 .. 9~a6 18086 1.1120 61.5 , -' 2'01 Writt6n Answers KAR.tn{~ 21, 1908'(SAKtf) Written Answers ~O2 _...... :-...... __... .l._ ..... __• ------1 2· 3- . 4· ----.;. ------... ____..____..... , rj.9.86 15378 9893 64.3 14-9'·86 ,13334 8141 65.6 .' 1 S-9.86 16967 10473 61.7 16-9 .. 86 1S600, 9666 62.0 .17' 9·86 17912 ' 11063 61.8 18 .. 9-86 18136 11271 60.2 19-9-86 . 19324 11732 60.7 20-9-86 IS837 10320 65.2 21-9· 86 13086 6&51 61.6 22.9.86 16548 1~647 .. 64.0 23.9.Sf), 18088 11425 63.2' '24·9·86 18202 11602 63.7 25-9-86 18640 11855 63.6 26-9 .. 86 17610 10855 61.6 27-9-86 15345 9816 64-0 28-9",86 13426 8972 66.8 , 29-9-88 18003 11316 62.9 30-9-86 18940 11726 61.2 'Average per day 16910 10562 62.2 ,Statement-Ill One Day Trunk .Troffic Return Study of September 1986 for Trunk M~nual Exchange New Delhi Type of Calls Total Booked Total Effective Percent as" of Effective CaBs , .. ___ .. _-._------Ordinary 8378 48'9 58.3 Urgent, ,8490 .5315 63.3 • Lightning S4S ,307 56.3 Priority SS6 394 '0.9 NOVEMBER 18, 1986 JVritt~n Answers 204 Modernisa lion aDd Expaaslon of Power there by utjJbJng~ the bYe-products of the Transmission .. and Distribution Net.. petro"chemicals from ,.Bongaigaon RefineJltes' . Work i~ Hyderabad ~nd Secunderabad and Petrocbemicals Corp'oration Ltd.; and . 2259. SRRI B. B. RAMAIAH : Will (d)' if so, the details there~r 7 the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to " state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPAR.TMENT OF 'INDUSTRIAL (a)' whether any plan has been received DEVELOPMENT IN THE ·MINISTRY OF from the State. Government' of Andhra . INDUSTR Y (SHRI M. ARUNA- Pradesh fot modernisation and expansion CHALAM) : (a) nnd (b). The Di~trict of of power transmission and distribution net Dbubri ·was out of Goalpara recently. work in the twin cities of Hyderabad and ca~ved One Letter of Intent and 2 Industrial Secunderabad; Licences were gr.anted in· Goalpara during the years .1984 .. 85 for setting up large (b) if so, tbe details thereof; and industri'es. In addition. as per information available from the Dirlctorate of Industries, (c) the !fme by which the scheme is the following' number of small scale and likely to. be cleared by the Union Govern artisan based units were set up in the . ment 7 District during the last three years ; THE MINISfER OF STATE IN THE 1983 .. 84 1984-85 1985-86 PEPARTMENT OF POWER THE IN _",.- ---...- ...__,_ - -~---~-.. ~-.. -.__,,,--- '_._ -~ . ,_----..... '--~ -~"" MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHIl..A ROHTAGI> : (a) Yes', Sir. Artisans 88 8'2 64 S S.1. 138 210 153 (b) The scheme, at a total cost of about . Rs. 217.83 erores provides for strengthening and modernisation of transmission and (c) and (d). Information is being distribution systems 'in Hyderabad Urban, collected and would be laid on the Table of Development Area to mc.et the anticipated . the House. . load which is expected to be about 700 rTransla lion) : MVA by 1990; and improve the quality Supply of Rapeseed Oil and Palm Oil and reliability of power supply, and reduce 'to Uttar Pradesh , system. lOSRes 2261. DR. CHANDRA ~HEKHAR (c) Tbe Scheme is under technical exa TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of FOOD mination of Central Electricity Authority. AND CIVIL 'SUPPLIES be pleased to . state :' Setting up of Industry in GoaJpara and Dhubri Districts in Assam (a) whcth~r Government of India had supp1i.cd edible oils (Rapeseed oil and Palm 2260.. SHRI ABDUL HAMID: Will oil) to Uttar Pradesh during 1985-26 and the Minister of INpUSTRY be pleased to 1986-87; state ~ (b) if so, whether &tly guide lines had , , Ja) whether Government are a ware that also been laid in regard to dist~ibution Ooalpara and Ohubri, . the two most back· ,thereof; and ward .districts of Assam, do not have a single industl'Y; (c) the quantity of. various edible oils supplied to Uttar Pradesh during the saiQ (b) if so, wh ether Government propose years. ? to set tlp any industry in these districts; 'lMB MINISTER OF STATE IN THl3- . MINISTRY OF FOOD ANO CIVIL (c) wbether Government are considering SUPPLIES (SHltl GHULAM NABI any proposal to establish a textile industrY AZA.D) : (a) Yes, Sir. ,. . 205 ~Vrltt'n Answers' " KJ\RTIKA 2.7, 1908 (SAKA) .. Wrltt,n Answ,rs 20ti " ' (b) The Central Government makes an (b) ~Fuel and loss account for 7.1 % of allocation of imported edible oils to States! the crude run durinl 198'.86. Union Territories for distribution through public distribution' system keeping in view (c) ,The refineries are taking up various various factors such as availability, prices, energy conservalion schemes such as replace stocks with STC etc. The further distribu ment of low . efficiency futnaces by' high tion is t}le responsibilty of, the State e'flicienty furnaces, instaJlation of beat ex. Governments. The St~te Governments have changers and air pre-beaters, etc., to reduce been advised, to streamline !ind ene~gise the fuel and loss. public distribution system to ensure that by imported edible oils acwaally reach the' Losses Suffered FeI consumer through Fair Price Sheps, for whom it is me.. ~nt. It has also been' 2263. DR. B. L. SHAILESH: Will suggested to them that monthly issue of,' the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL imported edible oils through, fair price shops SV,PPlIES be pleased to state ~ should not exceed 2 Kgli. per family per (a) whether Government have decided card. . to w(ite off Rs. 600' crores. of storage and transit' Josses of the Food (cl The oil-wise allocations/lifting of Gorporation of India; imported edible oils for the State of Uttar Pradesh for the, Oil year 1985-86 and ... (b) if 60, what is the procedure laid 1986·87 are given below: down for regularising these losse8 and whether it, has been followed; Oil Year Allocation Lifting (Nov. PalM Rape- Pa 1m Rape- (c) since how long the Food. Corpo Oct.) oil seed oil· seed ration of India (Fel) had be'en incurring oil oil such losses and what are the norms fixed by Government in this behalf and the circum stances under which Government subsidise 1985-86 12,400 100 10~012 Nil these losses; and 1986-87 1,400 , 100 325 Nil (d) what is the clement of losses due to Nov., 86 theft involved in such heavy los'scs and what --_. ------, preventive measures have been taken or [Engli~h] are being ~aken in this respect 1 Refining C"pacity THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2260. SHRI RAM.SINGH YADAV : MINISTR Y OF FOOD AND CIVIL Will. the Minister of 'PETROLEUM AND SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD): (a) No, Sir. ~A. TURAL GAS be pleased to st~te : " ~ (b) Does not arise. (a) the total refining capacity of all the refineries in the country; '(c) Some "losses are unavojdable and have bee~ in~urred from' the inception of (b) the perc en tage of crud e co'nsunled FCI. It has been decided to fix t he norms as fuel and lost in refining process; and for transit and storage losses on the basis of 1.0 % and 1.4 5 % of sales and ,purchases (c) whether Gov~roment have taken-or of. wheat and rice respective]) as a tentative propose to take effective steps to reduce this measure for re-imbursement of subsidy sub loss and if so, de.tails thereof '1 ,ject to regularisation of losses. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE' (d) The lo.,Ses due to theft alone, are MlNISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND not available. However, the lo~ses OD 'NATURAL GAS Year Qty. of loss Value Perc en tale Percentage to on account (1n Rs I to total turn over of theftl Lakhs) loss" pilferage (in MT)' 1983-84. 50S . ,9.22 0.()7 '0.00,2 1984.8S 293 6.28 Q.OS 0.001 1985-86 401 8.43 0.07 0.001 ------'_.-_._-, --_.. _--_ ..------, To' further ptevent the theft/pilferage, the Corporation bas tightened the security measures inc1uding' induction of CISF at certain depots. . cons'tructlon of G.P.O. Building at THE MINISTER. OF STATE IN THE Trivandrum DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF 2264" SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the· INDUSTR Y (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (a) Yes, Sir. Paints, Varnishes and pleased to st'lte : Enamels Industry is one of the 20 industries selected under the Modernisation programme \a) whether the construction work of ,of the Small In~ustri'es Dev$lopmoot Orga. General Post Oftke bui1~ing at Trivaodrum nisation. (SIDO) has started; an,d (b) Paints,' Varnishes and Ename)s is one (b) if so, what will be its cost and when of the 4 industries reviewed by the Working it is likely to be completed '1 Group' on Upgradation of Technology in the sman Scale Sector under the Chairmanship THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of Dr. S.M. Patil constituted by the Mini MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 'strY of Industry. Actinn Bas been initiated (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) (a) on the PatH Committee's recomnlendation. No, Sir. [Translation] (b) The cost construction of the build Power Projects in Bihar with 'u. S. S. R's ing for General Post Office at 'Trivandrum Assistance ... will be Rs. 20S lakhs. This work is likely to be completed withinn 32 m'onths from 2267. SH~I KA~I PRASAD the date of, commencement. PANDEY: Will the Minister of ,£~EROY be pleased to state : . Modernisation of Paint Industry in Small Scale Sector , -, (a) whether Government, pt:opose to undertake any power projects in Bihar with 226,5. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will u. S. S. R. 's assistance besides the Kahl tbe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to gaon Super The~mal Power Project; state : (b) if so, the names of such schemesl (a) whether any proporal for moderni projects and tbe dates when work on those sin8 the paint industry particuJarly in the projects will be started and the expenditure sm.lll scale sector is under consideration; involved therein; and a'nd' (c) the details of tJle various projects 80, the (b) if details thereof? t() be 1&\1ncbe~, With Soviet cOllaboration? 209 Written A"swer, KARTlKA 2.7, 1908 (b) c .if 80, the preventive Qleasures ' THE, M:INISTER O~ STATB IN THE . conceived impl emented ? DEPARTMENT OF POWER' IN THE and' MINISTRY OF ENERGY .(SHRIMATI ·SUSHILA ROHATAGI): (a) to (c). THE MINISTER OF STATE' IN THB The Soviet cooperation for the development DEPARTMENT OF POWER. IN THE o.f fuel-energy complex at Mukanda in Bihar MIN.lS·rRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI was discussed in the recent meeting of the SUSHILA ROHATAGIl: (a) and (b). In Indo-Soyiet Working, Group on Coal. No a11 the super thermal pl)wer stations or the concrete proposal for setting up any power corporation high efficiency electrostatic project. in Bihar with Soviet cooperation precipitators have been provided to has, however, been formulated so far. limit· the emissions of ftyash to less than 1 SO mg/Nm3 which is the stan [English] dard laid down by the Central Pollution Control Board. It ·is known tha t ~om~ DriJlin~ or Wells in Himalayan Footh .. radio-active substances are emitted from bills J and K, U. P. M.P. and Welt Bengal . the chimneys of coal.fired plants. Interna tional experience is that such emissions are not significant. 2268. SHRI C. MADHAV REDO! : Wi 11 the Minister PETROLEUM AND of Production of Energy from Non-Con NATURAl GAS pe pleased to state : ven~ional .Sources (a) whether it is a fact tba.t Oil and 2270~ SHRI H. N. NAN:JE GOWDA: Natural gas Commission has finalised its SHRI O. S. BASAVARA.JU: plans to drill deep wells in the Himalayan foot 'bills, Jammu and Kashmir, Uttar Pradesh, Himachal. Pradesh and West Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Bengal for oil.. ~xploration; and (b) if so, whether it has ,acquired the (a) whether in order to boost the necessary land ris's capable of drilling up to production of energy from non-conventional 6000 meters 1 and renewable sourceS. Government are . considering a number of projects including THE MINISTER OF SlATE OF THE setting up of Wind Mills Farms af\d genera· MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ting power from sewage plants in Metro.. NA1URAL GAS ,SHRI BRAHMA politan Cities. DUTT): !..a) ONGC propo~e' to drill, deep wells in Himalayan Foothills-Jammu (bY if so, by what time the final and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh and West decision is likelY to be ta ken in this Bengal. regard; (b) Yes, Sir. (c) the total amount invol~d in Release of Radioactive Substance by implementing the .proposal; and Super Thermal Plants .' (d) to what extent the projects have 2269. SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: been considered for implementation ? Will the Minister of ENE,ROY be pleased to state: ' THE tdINJSTER OF ENERGY , (SHRI VASANT SATHE): '(a) to (d). (a) whetber Government are aware .As part of the programme in the area or that several sup~r thermal plants established Non-Conventional Sources of Energy being in t1te country by the National Thermal implemented by the Department of .Non Power Corporation has. been contributing to' COt ventional . Energy. ' Sources, five wind the pollution in the from of' radioactive .. .farms of a~gregate capacity of 3.3 MW in sub:»tances released from these plants in selected (;oastal areas have alreadY bet'n addition to the discbarse of Byasb into the completed; some projects for energy &\Jncrtl ,tmospbcl'c; and., don froan sewage, sludge ba~e, been taken 211 . Written Answets NOVJ;MBE& 18, J98·6 up. Th~ total amOullt in~olved in t~e Import of Coal from Australia for J(lint Sector lbermal Power Station at Wind Farm project is approximately Rs. 4 . . Tuticorin crores for' completed projects; for the energy from, sewtlge project it. is Rs. 20 2272. SHR,l H. N. NANJB GOWDA: lakhs. Two exp~rimental. projects for SHRI (is BASAVARAJU: , Ileneration of power from municipal \l ~stes have "also been taken up, Will the Minister of INDUSl R Y be 'Tapplng of Funds for Power pJeased to state: Generation (a) whether Government have kept in 2271. SHRI H. N. NANJE GOWDA: . abeyance a decision on the import of coal . SHRI O. S. BASAVARAJU : from Australia (or the joint. sector Thermal Power Station at Tuticorin; - Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state ; (b)', if so, the reasons therefor; (a) whether Government are exam,in .. (c) whether a consortium units in ing the possibility of tapping funds outslde Tamil Nadu h1S submitted a plan to set up the Seventh plan allocations to financ~ the thermal power station comprising 210 MW . setting up of \ 0,000 MW power capacity; units at Tuticorin as a Joint Sector i.n association with the State Government; aod (b) if so, whether he bad suggested that black mone), should 'be t~pPcd for power gencrat ion in the country; . (d) if so, how long Government are likely to· keep the decision in abeyance? (c) whether the proposal has been accepted by the Finar.ce'Ministry; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1HE , , DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN lSTR Y OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (d) . the time by which final decision SUSHILA ROHATAGl): (a) fo (d). in this regard is likely to be taken; and The proposal for Extension (Ehird stage of . . . 2 X 2 J 0 MW) of the Tu'ticorin TPS was (e) whether any alternative is being a'pproved in June, } 985, and the project considered fur meeting the gap between was to be implemented by the Tamil Nadu 'demand and supply (f power at the end of Electricity Board under tbe State's Seventh Seventh Plan? . Plan. The Tamil Nadu authorities have now. proposed (0 set up the Extension stage in the joint sector (based on import of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN raE coa 0. The modified project wiIJ be apprai DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE sed from the techno-economic angle by the MINISTRY OF ENERGY' (SHRIMA'fI CfA 'after it has t>cen submitted by tbe SUSHILA ROHATAGl): (a) and (e). Tamil Nadu .Electricity Board. Yes, Sir. Projects are being posed for bilateral financing and finar,cillg by inter Pending Cases in S.,-preme COllrt .and national financial, institutions. High <;ourts (b) In view of . the constraint of funds 2273. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: it was suggested that all possible legitimate Wil1 the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE sources should be tapped. be pleased to state : " , (c) and (d). The Finance Ministry hAs (a) whether' Government are aware accepted the proposal to pose projects for of the heavy work load in Supreme Court bilateral assiS1an'ce. and Higll Courts; 21:4 . Written AlI8~ers . I(AR.,ttKA. 21 t t ~O 8 (SAKA) Written Answers 21.4, (b) whether Oove~nmcPt propose" 'to (a) the amount given for rural electri issu~ any guidelines to Government under .. fication during the last three years to . takings. government branches, etc. to seek Orissa; out of court settlements; and . . (b) the amount sp.ent for the same "i, (c) the number of cases pending in in Orissa; Suprclne' Co'urt, which. were initiated by State Oovernment~, public sector under .. (c) the number of villages electrified ta'kings and Central Governmtnt 'agencies' 1 during the last -three years; , , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (d) what was the target (or the Sixth MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE Plan pedod and whar is the'target,. for the (SHRI .H.· R. BHARDW.i\J):· (a) Yes, Seventh Five Year Plan; and ,~ Sir. (e) whether the target for' S'ixth Plan (b) No, Sir. period has been fuJiy achieved; if not, the ~easons therefor 1 (c) Particulars of such cases have not been furniC)hed by the RegistrY. of Supreme THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Court as no separate record in maintained. DEPARTMENT ,OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF E'NERGY (SHRIMATI Coal Mines in Operation SUSHILA ROHTAGI) : (a) and (b). A sum ofRs. 48.S1 erores was aHocated for 2274. SHRI SOMNA1H RATH the· Rural Electrification Programme Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased financed through the ~ura] 'Electrification to state: Corporation (REC) in 'Orissa during the last three' years (1983·86). Against this. Rs. 41. 33 crores were disbursed by the (a) the number (J coal mines in REC and Rs. 30 crores ·(tentative) were operation in the country at present; .pent on the Rural Electrification Prog ramme by the Orissa State Electricity (b) the coal deposit in these mines; Board. (c) the types of coal deposit in these (c) During the last three years, 3623 mines; and villages were .electrified in Odssa. (d) the quantity of coal being lying (d). The targets set by the. PICIDoing lifted Yearly? , Commissi'on during the Sixth and Seventh Five Year Plans were to electrify' 6835 THE MINlS1ER OF ENERGY (SHRI villages and 7558 villages respe~tivelY. VASANT SA THE): (a) and (d). There are 506 coal mines in the country at (e) The Orissa State Electricity Board present. In' 1985 .. 86. 154:24 million electrified 6531 villages against the target tonnes of coal was produced. The target of 6835 villages during the Sixth Five for 1986-87 is 166':80 million toones. ' Year Plan. The main reasons for . the shortfall' hav~ been aU-ributcd to shortage of material, lack of sub-transmission system (b) and (c). Information is being. °diyersion of funds tor restoration of works coHectea and wo.uld be laid on the Table 'of the house.' affected by cyclones/floods etc. Shortfall in Power Availability in , Rural Electrification in Orissa Orissa _ 227t- SHRI SOMNATH ~RATH: 2276. SHRI JAGANNATH PAfTNAIK: W1l1 the Minister o.f ENERGY be pleased Will the Minister of, ENERGY be pleased to state: - to $tate : 21; Written Answt" ",ltten A.swlrs' 216 (a) whether the projected shortfall in (rrtMIs la 'ion) power. availability in Orissa is expected' to , increase to about 592 MW in 19'86:87; Working of Tel~phones· in Shaltdara Zone in DeIhl (b) if so, whether the prospects of 2271~ PROF CHANDRA BHANU establishing new thermal power plants in DEVI.: Will the Minister of COMMUNI. the State are belak; and CATIONS h,e pleased to state: (c) if so, the details regarding the • (a) . whether telepho,ne connections of " ,Central guidance, if any, extended in favour the Shabdara zone in ,'Oelhi generally remain of Orissa State? out of order.; and THE 'MINISTER OF STATE IN THE , . (b) if not, the. number of complaints DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THB lodged during the last three' months in MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMA1I this regard in each telephone zone of SUSHILA RQHTAOI): (a) As per Delhi "1 ',1,/ the projections for the year 19ti6.87, Orissa is expected to face peaking ,deficit upto 310 MW. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) (b) aDd (c). The proposals'in respect .'No, Sir. of installation of the Ib Valley thermal power project (4 X 2'10 MW) in State • Sector and Talcher Super Thermal Power (b) The number of compla ints lodg,ed Station (2 X SOO MW) in the Central Sector in each. telephone zone of Delhi for the have been techno-economicallY approved by last three months, viz, August to October the Central Electricity Authority. 1986 is indicated below :- Zone August September October Central 3~40 30507 29477 East 44269 34766 34246 North 41137 31418 27854 South 43272 3S684 341S9 West 44696 35554 . 32537 ------. ... ------Shahdara zone falls in East area. The number of complaints in Shabdara area, exchange-wise are as -follows: August , September October ------'20' exchang~ 1968 1921 Net recei"ed '21' exchange 1516 1356 from ~24' excbang~ 1541 1289 Compure.r , ~ t' JPrlt.len. Answe,~ , Written AnswerJ ~'18 S"ttPI, oJ Pln-Type~~elulators' to LPG Consumers ' , ,THB MINISTER.OF STATE IN THE 'DEPARTMENT., OF, POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENERGY '(SHRIMATI 2278. PROF. -CHANDR.A BHA-NU SUSHILA ROHTAGl) : (a) 'Yes, Sir. DEVI : Win the Minister of PETR(jLEU~ AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (b) and (c). 'The Energy Conservation: Fund is intended to finance high priority (a) whether Government have received activities In the field of energy conservation. any complaints that the pintype regulators 'The time frame for setting up the fund can .eing given to LPG consumers brea k early be decided after taking into account aJJ the a$ these are made of infuior plasti.c; ahernatives for tapping budgetary and non budgetary resources. (b) if so, action proposed to be taken in the maHer; ~nd Supply of Foodgrains and Sugar to . . 8ihar , (c) whether consumers arc facing financial harships as' a result there of 1 2280. PROF. CHANDRA HHANU DEVI : Will the .Minister of FOOD AND C1VIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: THE MINISfER OF STA TE Of THE . MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA (a) t~e quantity of rice, whea t, sugar DUTTJ : (a) and (b). In the cont(.:xt of and other foodgrains demanded by Govern .. complaints about brc~\kage of the plastic ment of Bihar' for Pub) ic Distribution knob 'fo]Jowiog the intr'oduction of the ·pin .. System during the Years 1984"85 and type regulators some years ago, steps were , I ~85-S6; and ' taken to improve the quality of the plastic used. Also proven technology for these' regulators has been improted. (b.) the actual' month-wise ~uppJies of foodgrains made to meet the demand of the State during 1985 .. 86 ? (c) Regulators having 'manufacturing defects are replaced free of cost. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Setting up of Energy Conservation MINISTRY OF 'FOO~ AND CIVIL Fund SUPPLIES (SHRI OHVLAM NABI AZAD) : (3)' The Government of Bihar demanded 6,00,.000 tonnes of rice and 2279,' PROF. CHANDRA BHANU 12,00,000 tonnes of whea~ for public DEVI : Will the Minister of ENERGY. be distribution system during each of the years pleased to state: 1984.85 and 1985.86, (a) whether a decision for setting up Levy sugar quotas are not bssed on Energy Conservation Fund was taken by demand/requests received from the State Government in" the year 198'4; . Governments'aod are allotted on uniform norms of 425 grams Per capita availability (b) the thereof;· for the projected population as on if so, details and 1 .. 1 0 .. 1 983. ' (c) tbe' ,time by which this fund is . (b) A statement indicating the required li~c]y to be set up ? information is giVen below. . .. it 9 Written AIISWf~' NOVEMi.U~R: 18, 198'6.' ~rltte;, An.ers . 220 . S'ltement . . Month Allot_ment , 9fftake " ' llice Wheat Rice Wheat Apri" 1985· 18.0 72.0 3.3 ' 11.1 May ] 8,0 72.0 2~5 . 6.7 June t 8.0 12.0· 1.6 6.4 Ju1y . 1&.0 '12.0 1.4 11.7 Augu.st 18.0 72,0 l,S 20.8 September 18.0 72.0 2.4 18.4 October' '1 . 25.0 72.0 4:4 21.7 November 25.0 72.0 0.9 24.6 December 25.0 72.0 1.0 26.9 January, 1986 2 '5.0 72.0 1.5 28:0 F:..ebruu ry 25.0 72.0 1.1 2,1:9 M'a.rch 25.0 72.0 1.7 30.1 I __ .----.. [English] (b) Project estimate was sanct~oned on 23.7.198,5. iricludes building Extension of Auto .. Excharnge Facility ~his. to Cuddalore Town con~tJuctlon; which IS to start shortly. The proJect, ad such will be budgctted for the 2281. SHf{1 P. R. S. VENKA TESAN : next financial year. Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: [Translation] (a) whether autQ .. exchange facility will Ir'regufarities Committed in Coal Mines of Dballbad and. Jbari" ,Bihar be extended to 'Cudd~lore t~wo pcfore the end of Seventh Five Y ~ar Plan; and 2 282. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased (b) ~f not, whether Government to slate, : contemplate including this sche'lle in the coming financial year'ts budget '? (a) whether a Jarge n\lmbcr of irregularit ies are being. 'committed in THB MINISTER OF STATE IN THB coalmines of Dhanbud and ]hari~ in Bihar; MiNISTRY Of COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTQSH MOHAN DEV): ~a) (b) the details of the facilities being Tenders for con,~truction of building have provided by Government to the workers been opened on: 12.11.~6. 'the work is working in mines at 'these two places; B'1d Yet to be awarded. The building, as such, may not be available before January, 1989. Installation of 2300 hoes !xchange normally (c) the steps being" taken by Gove~n takes two years. Therefore, the m,ent to renlcdy the si1ualion ~ commissiqning of th is automatic. exchange can be expected, earliest, in the yeat THE MHUSTBR OF ENERGY (SHRI 1.990.91 i. e. 8th Plan period, VASANT SATHE) : (a) No, Sir. 221 Wrftttn Answt'.f KARTIKA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written An~wers 222 . (b) and (c). BCCL; the Govt. company . (a) the date fronl which the Ra,ichur working the coal· mines in the Jharia Thermal Plan~·I in Karnataka Conlmenced Coalfield. provides facilities to its workers producing elect~jcity; in the fields of hous~rig" water supply, medical care, recreation and education. (~) the quantum of electr'icity produced Improving the livil1g conditions and the at thiS plant; , . quality of Hfe of. the 'workers is a continuing. process and adequate financial (c) the cost of producing e1ectricity; and administrattve p.tovisions are regularly ma9c. (d) the power storage faciJities or this plant; and [Eng liJ h] Replacement of "38" Telephone (e) the time by which Stage-If, Unit-II' Exchange in De Ihi of this thermal plant: will commence producing electricity? 2283 SARI KAMAL NATH : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be THE MINISTE,R OF Sf ATE IN THE pleased t 0 s~a te : . DEPARTMENT POWER iN 'THE' MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHIlA ROHTAGI)_ (a) Raichur (a) whether the Central Secretariat Th~rmal PJant Unit-I started prc(Juction of exchange "38" has outlived its life and energy from 15.4 85. thousands of complaints are m~lde by the subscribers about faulty working of tele phones in this exchange; (b) The energy generated at this Plant is 207 MU and 430 MU during 1985-86 and 1986.87 (April-October) respectivelx. (b) whether Government propose to discard this exchange .and give connectio.ns (c)' Information is being' collected and to the subscribers frem one of the Aewly . w.ill be laid on the Table of the House. constnlctcd exchanges; ar d (d) Thermal Power Stations are not (c) if not, when this Exchange is going .provided with power storage facilities. to be replaced by a Dew one? (e) The programme for power pro THE MINlSTElt OF STATE IN THE duction frem Uri it-II of Stage-II tan be MINISTRY OP' COMMUNICATIONS made only after this unit has been sanctio'!' (SHRr SONTOSH MOHAN DEV),: (a" ned. No, Sir. (' 38' is the exchange code for Rajpath eKhange). Development of Small Scale) odustries in Karnataka (b) No, S'ir. 2285. SI:{RIMATt BASAVARAJES WARI: Win the Minister of INDUSTRY (c) 4500 lines of this exchange equip be pleased \0 state : ment were first installed in J 967 and will be replaced after they have served for normal life of 25 years.' . the steps Government propose to take to contribute to the development of small scale jndustries in Karnalaka State? Production· of Electricity' in Raichur. Thermal Plant .. I THB MINI$TER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL >' Z284. , SHRIMATI I BASAVARA- DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF , JESWARI : Will the Mini'ster of ENERGY INDUSTRY (SHR'I ~1. ARUNACaALAM) be pleased to sta te The ' State Govcinfllcnt is primatily : ",,' 22:4 Written Maw,r s' NOVEMB~R. 18, .1986 Wrltt,,, An,wers 224 responsible for taking necessary steps for Rebate on sale of Coir Products the development of tbe smaU acale industries. However, the Central O,overn ... , 2287. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Win ment su.pplements the efforts of the State the Mini~ter of INDUSTRY b! plcaS'ed to Oo~ernment~Jor' development of necessary state: infrastructural facilities through fiscal policies and other promotional schemes. The .. mall scale units in Karmitaka are (a) whether Oovernmel'lt of 1< erala has also t8:king benefits of all these facil it ies. submitted a scheme for rebate on sale of ' . coir products; and Use or Solar Energy in Kerala (b) if so, the decision taken thereon '1 2286. PROF. K. V. THOMAS WHI the Minister of ~NERG Y be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: DEPARTMENf OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA· (a) the steps tak~n for the use of Solar CHALAM) : (a) The scheme for rebate on energy; sale ,of coir' products was in it ially sanctioned in 1984-85 to clear the (b) how much amount is ea-rmarkecWn accummulated'stocks. The scheme, how the S·~vcnth Plan for this purpose; and ever. met with a limited response. • Ther.:fore, the, proposal of the Kerala (c) whether States like Kerala where Government for continuation of the scheme Plan not .favoured. there'is a shortage of hydro-electric power, in the Seventh was have submitted any projects for the use of .solar eoergy ~ . Foreign Excbange Regulation Appellate . Tribunals THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a)' Comprehensive 2288. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : programmes of research and development, Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE demonstraiion, utilisation,' industrial be pleased to s,tatc : production~ and evaluation to usc solar energy' throughout tbe couotrY including the State of Kerala are being taken up by (a) the 'tot'll number of cases inststuted the Dep1rtment of Non-Sanventional and (0 decided by the Foreign Exchange Energy Sources through various' State and Regulation Appellate Tribunals during the Central Government departments, agencies, last three years, year"wise; electricity boards etc. (b) toe total number of pending cases (b) As per the Seventh Plan document, during the last three years, year-wise; . nnd an amourit of Rs. 59 crores has been earmarked during the Seventh Plan for solar 'energy programmes for implementa (c) the total expenditure incurred' on tion by the Dcptt. of Non-Conventional the Tribunal and its establishment during Energy Sour.ces. the last three years, year-wise; (c) Yes, Sir. In the States like Kerala; THE MINlSTER OF STATE IN THB solar photovoltaic"·water pumping· systl!ms, MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICB 8treetlighting unit etc. are being supplied (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) and '(b).' for installation at different places and also The total numb~r of cases instituted and devices such as solar water heating systems, disposed of by the Foreign Exchange so1:lr timber kiln, solar ~es'l1ination Regulation Appellate Board ·and the number systems, solar, drier systems; solar cookers of cases pending before the Board, during are beioS installed. the last three 'years is as follows ;- 225 Written Answers KAIlTIKA 27, 1908 (SAXA) Written Answers 226 (b) No statistics are maintained by the Year Opening Appeals Disposal Closing Oil Industry in this regard. Such claims Balance institu- Balance are dealt with by insurance companies ted. directly with the claimants • - -~,---- ...... ~'_._.------~ .. --- (c) and (d). The oil marketing companies 1983 465 331 280 516 have refrained from widely publicising the 1984 416 509 300 725 availability of this insurance cover in order to. prevent undue scare and complace 1985 72S 667 401 991 ncy. The oil industry has ROW decided to (including ,disseminate this information among consu three appeals mers suitablY. remanded by High Courts) Completion of on-Going Power Projects in Orissa (c) The total expenditure incurred on 229 J. SHRIMATI JAYANTI the Foreign Exchange Regulation Appellate Board and its establishment during the last PATNAIK : Will the Minister of ENERGY three years year-wise is as follows :- be pleased to state : (a) the ~cheduld dates of the comple Year Amou~t (in Rs.) tion 0 r various on going power projects in Orissa; 1983 1,84,654 (b) the progress made in the 1984 2,10,391 completion of each of those projects; 1985 2,68,403 (c) the capacity of each of those projects; Insurance Scheme for LPG Consumers (d' the steps taleen to expedite the completion of those projects; and 2289. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (e) the details thereof '1 NATURAL GAS be pleased t'o state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TfJE (a) since when tbe scheme of insurance DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE of registered LPG consumers is in vogue; MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI (b) number of cases in which insurance SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). been paid in cases of explosion deaths Information is given in the Statement during the last three years and the total below. amount paid : (d) and (e). A number of measures (c) whether· any publicity bas been have been taken to assist the State/project given to the' insurance scheme for the authorities in expediting the implementa benefit of LPG ct )nsumers ; and . tion of power projects. These measures (d) if not, the reasons therefor? include regular monitoring of the projects by the Central Electricity Authority, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB efforts to expedite supply of equipment MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND and materia1s, vists to project sites by N>\TURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA engineers of the Central Electricity Autho DUTT): (a) While Indian Oil Corpora rity to resolve problems and organising t ion's LPG distributors have been taking review meeting of agencies concerned to th ird party insurance cover on behalf of coordinate project implementat ion. The the consumers since inception of LPG need to obviate time and cost over runs marketing by the Corporation and BPC in project implementation is being ntroduced the scheme in 1963 HPC made constantly emphasised on State Autho t oblisatofY for its distributors 'in 1982·83. rities. I 227 Written Answers NOVEMBER. 18. 1986 Written Answer, 228 Statement Details of various on .. golng prower projects in OrisSG ,------_... ------Sl. Name of . Installed Likely Broad Present Status No. Project Capacity date of (MW) comng. 1. Hirakud 7th, 1 X37.S J 981-88 Draft tube erectian completed. Con unit creting of up"tream and downstream wall is in progress. Import ed equip ments have been received. . 2. llpper Kolab 3 X 80 1986-87 Civil works of dam have been and 1987-88 completed. Erection of radial gatec;, HRT lining and erection of penstock are in progress. PH super structure concreting is in progress. Erection of EOT crane completed. Unit-1 : Generator barrel is completed. AssemblY of stator and rotor is in progress. Unit"2: Spiral casing presure testing and pit liner assembly completed. Earthing mat for generator barrel is completed. Unit-3: Assembly and welding of spira) causing in service bay complet ed Draft tu be liner erected and aligned. 3. Upper 4 X 1S0 VIII Plan Penstock and power House works are Indravati in progress. 4. Pottaru 2X3 1988 .. 89 Infrastructure works are in progress. s. Rangali 3 X SO 1989-90 Main civil works like penstock liner, Extn. & VIII Plan gates, draft tube were completed under Stage-I. Order for generating units has been placed. 6 .. Upper Kolab 1 X80 VIII Plan Lqying of penstock, instalJation of Extn. B.F. valve, extension of Power House building etc. have been taken up side by side wit~ Stage-I works. 2~9 WrJtteIJ Answers KAR'PlKA 21. 1908 (SAKA) Written AnsK'er-s 230 Shifting of MatllUI'8 Refinery (c) the time by which Government propose to shift Cl::Jss III employees to the 2292. SHRI RAMASHRA Y P,~ASAD accommodation to which they are er,tit led SINGH: Will the Minister of PETRO .. so that the Class IV employees are ntOt LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased deprived of their right ; and to slate: (d) ;f not, the rea son tbcn..(or? (a) whether Government propose to shift Mathura Refinery elsewhere to save THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the white marble of T(..j Maha 1 which is MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS likely to turn yellow after 50 years or so (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) as a result of ,the sulphuric discaarges No, Sir. No Class In employees have been fre'nl the chimney of the Mathura Refinery al10ted residential accommodation meant as op(';ncd recently by the Union Minister for Class IV employees. Jlowever, a few of Energy; and Class III employees who were originaJly Class IV cmpJoycfS and were allotted Type (b) if so, the action so far taken in I quarters continue to occupty the Type.. I th~ maHer? quartars though they have become eligible for Type.. 11 quattcrs now. 1 hese officials "HE MINISTER OF SfATE OF THE will be provided with Typc-lI quarters as MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND per their soniority in the waiting Jist. NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) and (b). Subsequent to the (b) No, Sir. decision to set up Mathura Refinery, Government had constitutl!d an expert (c) The Class-Ill employe.:s will be committee to advise the project authorities shifted to lhe accomodation to which they on the measures to be taken to preserve are entitled, as and when new quarters are the monuments in the Agra.Ma thra region constructed or existing quarters fall vacant. from the pollutants to be emited by the Allotments will than be done according refinery. After studies, it was stipulated to the seniority list of the officials. that the sulphur di-oxide emission should be restricted to less than one tonne per (d) Does not arise. hours. The sulphur di-oxide emissions have been k~pt well within the stipulated Telegraph Messengers in Telegraph limits and as such, it is not considered Offices necessary to shift the Mathura Refinery elsewhere. 2294. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS [Translation.! be pleased to state: Allotment of Residential Accommoda tion to Employees of Central Telegraph (a) the number of telegraph messengers Office New Delhi. working in various Telegraph Offices of the country under the Ministry 2293. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: of Communication ; and Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: tb) the number of messengrs out of them working in the office and outside the whether (a) Class III employees are oflice ? residing in the houses meant for Class IV employees working in Central telegraph THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Office, New Delhi ; and if so, the reasons MINISTR Y OF COMMUNICATIONS therefor '; (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): {a) Altosether there are 11,275 Telegraph (b) whether this does not amount to messengers working in various Telegraph depriving the class IV amployecs of their right; Offices in the countcy. 231 W,/llen Answer" NOVEMBEIl t 8, 1986 Written Answer 232 (b) Out of them 2,21 S are working (a) the I'umber of upgraded post offices in the office and 9,060 are working outside in the PathanamthiUa district where telegra the office. phic facilities are not yet available; and [Engli~h] (b) the steps being taken. to provide Publicity Expenditure by ONGC telegraphic facilities in such post offices ~ 2295. SHRI V. S, VIJAYARAGHAVAN: THE MINISTER OF SrATE IN THE Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS NATURAL GA.S be pleased to state: (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) 21 Post Offices have been upgraded in Patha (a) the tolal amo\!nt spent by Oil and namthitta District where telegraphic facili Natural Gas Commission on publicity ties ~re not yet availnble. during the last two years on account of advertisements to magazines, souvenirs etc; (b) Out of 21 Post Offices, provision of and te legra pb facH ity has been approved in respect of thrr:e. Six cases are under (b) the criteria adopted by the Oil and examination for justification and in respect Natural Gas Commission in cOlJtributing of twelve cases provision of telegraphic adverti~ements 'l facility is not justified. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Share of State in Additional power MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Gen£ration NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) Oil and Natural Gas Commi ssion (ONGe) have spent the following 2297. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : Will the amoucts on advertisements to magazines, Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: souvenirs etc. during the last two years: (a) the total power generation targeted 1984-85 3.65 lakhs to be acbievcd during the Seventh Five Year Plan; 1985-86 3.54 lakhs (b) how much has been achieved so far; (b) The main criteria adopted by the and ONGC for releasing advertisements are (i) Effeetive projection of Commission"s (c) the share of each State in tbe addi· image tional power generation? (ii) Goodwin with the external environ ment THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE (iii) Consonance with the policy guide MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI lines for Public Sector Undertakings SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) Installed generating capacity of 22,245 MW is tar geted to be added during the Seventh Plan (i v) Credentials of the organisations! period. institutions at whose request the advertisement is released. Statement (b) if s~, the steps taken in this ressrd; State-wise targd 0/ capacity addition (c) whether the work could not be during .he Sevent Plan period. started due to the non"suppJy of necessary cabJe; and State Capacity addition target (MW) Cd) if so, the steps taken to supply the cable? .. ----• Andbra Pradesh 838.S0 THE MIN'STER OF 81 ATE IN THE 28S.00 Assam MI:NISTR Y OF COMMUNICATIONS (~HRI, SONfOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Bihar 478.90 Yes t SIr. Gujarat 1085 00 488.00 . (b) Pampa.dy being an exchange of 300 Haryana hoes cap?~jty has not not been proposed Himachal Pradesh 143. 50 (or provldlOg srn facility during the "tb 76.00 plan. .Du,e to limitation of resources, only Jammu &. Kashmir Distflct the. h Headquarters . . . not yet prOVl 'd e d 5~3.25 wit srn ~acl)ltleS and the telephone ex- Karnataka changes havlOg capacity of 1000 linea 530.00 Kerala a?d abo~e have been proposed to be pro 947.00 vided wah SrD facilities during the 7th Madhya Pradesh plan. 1739.50 Mabarasbtra 6.90 (c) No, Sir. Manipur 1.00 Nag~land (d) Does not arise. 483,50 Orrissa S. T.D. Seryic~ in Patbanamtbitta 767.40 DJstrlct, Kera's Punjab 385.10 R'ljastban 2299. PROF. p, J KURIEN ; wm 3.S0 the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Sikkirn pleased to state : 141600 Tamil Nadu 21.00 (a) whether Pa thanamthitta district in Tripura Keral~ does not have SrD facilities; Uttar Pradesb 1794.00 814.70 (b) whether any steps has been taken West Bengal to provide STO facilities in this district' and ' Introduction of S. T .D. Service in Pampadi Telepbone Excbange in Kottyam District, (d) if 80, the details thereof? Keral. THE. MINISTER OF S1' ATE IN THE 2.Z98. PROF. P. J. KURJEN: Will MINISTRY Of COMMUNICATIONS \be Mini~tcr of COMMUNICATIONS be (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) pleased to state: Two stations nameJy Adoor and TiruvaUa in Pathanamthitta District arc already pro" (a) whether any representations have vided with STD racilide~. been reccivl:d requesting the introduction of STD in the Pampadi te\epbone exchange in (b) Yes, Sir. Kottayam district of K.crala. ~3$ Written Answer, NOVEMBER 18, i986 Written Answe,'s 236 (c) Pathatiamtbitta a district headquar (a.) wheth~r potential market for ex· ter in I THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THB (a) the llumber of food wnRons of Food DEPARTMENf OF INDUSTRIAL Corporation of India (PCI) not yet account OEVELOPMENf IN THE MINISTRY OF ed for in the year 1985; and INDUSTRY . (SHRI M. ARUNA (b) the claim of 1he Fel against the CHALAM': (.1) The Sub-Group on Auto Railways in terms of rupees on account of mobiles and Earth -moving Indu ~try for 7th Phn has recommended export tat gets of' the lost food wagoas 1 10,000 commercial vehicles, 50,000 two THE MINISTER OF SlATE IN THE wheelers and 10,000 cars per annum by MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL 1989·90. Th~ automobile manufacturers SUPPLIES (SHRI 'GHULAM NABI have been exporting the potential markets AZAD): (a) and (b). The number of for export of automobiles. unaccounted wilgons of Fel during 1985·86 (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. Automotive is : Components Manufacturers Association 0 f Missing: 1221 1ndia in their publication ., Automotive Industry of India fact s and figures 1 985" Unconnected: 9086 have reported tOlal exports of auto motive industry to the order of Rs. 127 87 No wagons are lost as such. The claims crores (provisional) including commercial preferred on account of missing wagons for vehicles, jeeps, tractors, two and three 19'8S.86 is valued at Rs. 52.42 crores. wheelers, diesel engines, and automotive Export of Indian Cars ancillaries. Figures for the total export of these items for the years 1985-86 are not 2301. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY available. However, some of the major Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased vehicle manufacturers have reported the to state: following exports for the year 1985-86 : Name of the Company Quantity Value (In Rs.) 1 2 3 TELCO 1231 50.24 crores (commercial vehicles and spares) Bajaj Auto Ltd. 3882 6.29 croces (two and three wheelers) Hindustan Motors 714 6.36 crores (cars and commercial vehicles) Written 238 237 Writt'" Answers KARTIKA 27,1908 (SAKA) Answers --..--.-~- ---, .' _._ ._--_ .. -.- --.,.-_ ..... _"-- 1 2 3 Ashok Leyland 282 7.0S crores (commercial. vebicles and spares) Mahindra and Mahindra 2261 8.56 crores (jeeps) Maruti Udyog Ltd. 50 us $ 1.S lakh (During 1986) (cars) ------._.-.~- The main countries to which exports Telephone Districts and Telephone Division· ha ve been made are : are given in the Statement below. There is no ~uch unit as Telephone Circles in the Algeria~ Egypt, Ghana, Kenya, Aden, Department. Bangladesh, Sudan, Tanzania, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, Greece, Uganda, (b) These are based on approved norms Malaysia, etc. cf workload. Telephone Circles, n·istricts and (c) Yes, Sir. Divisions (d) Orders for reorganising the Telecom. 2302. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK : Circles, Major/Minor Telephone Districts Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS and Telegraph Engineering/Telephone Divi be pleased to state: sions were issued some time back. As per this schen1c, a Secondary Switching Area (a) the number and names of Telephone would constitute the basic management operative unit within a Telecom. CircJe. Circles, D.islricls and l~ivisions, the country There would be a Telecom. District for is divided into; each Secondary Switching Area headed by an officer of rank depending on the work (b) the basis of these divisions; load in each area. If the workload in some of 1 elecorn. Djstricts do not justify (c) whether these units are proposed to an independent DivisionaJ Engineer level be altered; and Officer then a few of such Teleconl. Districts wou ld be grouped. (d) if so, the details lhereof? If the workload in any area increases THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE due to developmental growth, then the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS rank of the officer in charge of District (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) would be raised as per approved norms and Number and names of Telecom. Circles, wi thin the guidelines on ban orders. Statement Telecom. Circle (Number-16) 1. Andhra Pradelh Telecom. Circle. 2. Bihar Telecom. Circle. 3. Oujara t Telecofll. Circ;le, 239 Writ"" Answer. NOVEMBER. I 8, t 986 Wrlt"n Answer. 240 4. J and K Telecom. Circle. ,. Kerala Tetecom. 'Circle. 6. Karnataka Telecom. Circle. 7. Mabarashtra Telecom. Circle. 8. Madhya Pradesh. Telecom. Circle, 9. Orissa Telecom. Circle. 10. ' Rajastan Telecom. Circle. 11. Tamil Nadu Telecom. Circle. 12. Uttar Pradesh Telecom. Circle. 13. West Bengal Telecom. Circle. 14. N. B. Telecom. Circle (Which includes Assam Circle.) 1 S. North West Telecom. Circle (which includes Punjab aDd Haryana Circlet 16. Himachal Pradesh Telecom. Circle. Telephone Districts (Number-30) (Before Reorgani3Dtion) 1. Calcutta Telephone District Metro Telephone District 2. Madras Telephone District 3. Hyderabad Telephones District 4. Bangalore Telephones District S. Ahmedabad Telephones District Major Telephone District 6. Pune Telepbones District 7. Kanpur Telephones District 8. Nagpur Telephones District 9. Patna Telephones District 10. Jaipur Telephones District t 1. Lucknow Te'phones District 12. Ernakulam Telephones Distritt 13. Indore Telephones District 14. Coimbatore Telephones,District 1S. Amrit8~l' Telepbones Pi$triot 241 JY,ttten Answers KARTIKA 27, J908 ~ t 6. Surat Telephones District 17. Ludhiana Telephone District , 8. Baroda Telephones District 19_ Rajkot Telephones District Minor Telephones District 20. Chandigarh Telephones District 21- Trivandrum Telephones District 22. Ou~~ti Telephones District 2l Madurai Telephone, District l 24. lullundur Teleohone:, Distl • 25. Agra Telephones Distriol 26. Calicut Telephones District 27. Varanasi Telephones District 28. Vijayawada Telephones District 29. Allahabad Teleph::mes District 30. Bhopal Telephones District N.B -After reorganisation these Districts except Catcutta and Madras will be redesig nated as Telecom. Districts. List of Telephone Engineering Divisions (Bffore Reorganisation) 1. Visbakhapatnam Phones Engineering Division 2. Gunture Phones Engineering Division 3. Sbillong Phones Engineering Division 4. Ranchi Phones Engineering Division S. Srinagar Phones Engineering DivisiOn 6. Jammu Phones Engineering Division 7. Kottayam Phones Engineering Division Trichur Phones Engin'eering Division (). Mahgalore Phones Bngineering Division ~ ,). Mysore Phones Engineering Division ., • Hubli Phones Engineering Division Kolhapur Phones Engineerins DiviaiQn 243 Written Answerl NOVEMBER 18,1986 13. !'-~asik Phones Engineering Division 14. Sholapur Phones Engineering Division 1 S. Jabalpur Phones Engineering Divi~ion 16. Raipur Phones Engineering Division 17. Gwalior Phones Engineering Division 18. Cuttack. Phones Engineering Division t 9. Ambala Phones Engineering Division 20. Ajmer Phones Engineering Division 21. Jodhpur Phones Engineering Division 22. Udaipur Phones Engineering Division 23. Kota Phones Engineering Division 24. Bikaner Phones Engineering Division 2S. Salem Phones Engineering Division 26. Tiruchirapalli Phones Engineering Division 27. . Erode Phones Engineering Division 28. Meerut Phones Engineering Division 29. Bareilly Phones Engineering Division NOTE: After reorganisation these telephone divisions will be merged with the corresponding Telecom. District. Use of Computers in Supreme Coert technology in the Supreme Court has and High Courts been accepted by the Government in principle and' the other modalities are being .. ,2303. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: worked on in consultation with the Chief Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE Justice of India. be pleased to refer the reply to Unstarred Question No. 583 on 22nd July, 1986 Gas Found in Gujarat regarding introduction of computers in courts and state: 2304. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMA13EN RAMJlBHAI MA VANI: Will the Minister (a) whether any decision has since been of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: taken in the matter; and (a) whether gas has been found on a (b) if not, the reasons (or delay? large scale in Oandhar region near Kham bat of Oujarat; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (b) if so, the details thereof at (he (SHRI H. R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (b). quantum of gas deposits likely to be found The proposal for introduction of computer there; 245 Written Answer, KARrtKA 21, 1908 (SAgA) Written Answers 246 (c) the other places in Gujarat where (d) if so, the efforts made to expedit digging work for petroleum products has. the implementation of the above Prpposat 1 been undertaken during last three years, the details of expenditure incurred thereon and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbe quantum of gas aod petroleum products MINiSTRY O~ COMMUNICATIONS found or expected to be found; (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) No, Sir. • (d) whether Government are consider ing any scheme to make available gas and (b) to (d). Do not arise. petroleum products at cheap rates for development of industries in Gujatat; and Tehri Project, U.P. (e) if so, the details thereof and if not 2306 SHRl .. ZAINUL BASHER: the reasons therefor ? 'ViII the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 'THE (a) wh~ther a joint sector corporation MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND of the Government of India and Government NATURAL. GAS (SaRI BRAHMA of U P. is going to be set up for execution DUTT) : (u) (c). Gas bas been found and to and sub~equent operatio.n and maintenance additional gaq is expected to be available of Tehri Project in U. P. after Gandbar fields are developed The exadt quantity of additional gas that will be (b) if so, when the corporation will be available from Gandhar is yet to be deter set up, and mined. As and when these quantities are known appropriate plans for utilisation of (c) when the work on the project will this gas will be made. be started? .., During the last three years, from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1983, drilling was undertaken by ONGC at DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE 70 places in QujataL The expenditure MINISTRY OF ENBRGY (SHRIMATI incurred by them on drilling in Gujarat SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The till 31.3.1986 is about Rs, 590 crOfes. Tehri Dam Project jn Uttar Pradesh is to be implemented as a jOint venture of the (d) and (e). The issue of pricing of Government of India and the Government natural gas for various uses is under Govern of Uttar Pradesh, through the agency of a ment's consideration. separate Corporation which can be set up after the necessary arrangements/clearances Setting up of Telephone Industry at are tied up in consultat ion with the Govern Bhubaneswar ment of Uttar Pradesh. Construction work by the State authorities has been in progress 2305. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT~ NAIK: Will the Minister of COMMUNI .. Supply of Law Grade Coal to Obra CATIONS be pleased to stale: Power St,ation (a) whether Government propose to 2307. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER set up a telephone industry at Bhubaneswar; Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) if so, the amount sanctioned for the establishment of telephone industry at (a) whether Uttar Pradesh State the above place; Electricity Board has brought it to tbc notice of Northern Coalfields Limited (c) wh~lher the proposal is going to tNCL) that the quality of coal received by be impIemtnted during the Seventh Plan; the Obra Power Station is usualJy one grade and lower than billed; 141 Written Answers W,-Itten Answer., 248 (b) whether Northern Coalfields Limit (b) the nunlber of such offices to be ed (NCL) has uni ateral1y stopped the joint opened durin8 the current year; and sampling of coal and the Uttar Pradesh State Electricity Board bas objected to it. (c) what would be the location of each in Andhra Pradesh 'l Cc) if so, the reaction of Government in this regard ? THE MINISTER OF "STATE IN THE MINISTR.Y OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) VASANT SATHE}: (a) to (c). There has been some dispute between UPSEB and (i) Post Offices: There w£s proposal Northern Coalfields Ltd., regarding tbe to open 6001) post offices in rural grade of coal being rt.ceived by the Obra areas during the Seventh Five Year Power Station of UPSEB. Since UPSEB is Plan. But on account of continu.. not able to carry out sampling a'i per lSI ing ban on cr.eation of posts during standard, Northern Co.aifields Ltd, have the first two years of the Plan offered to do so as per lSI norms a t the period no new post offices have loading end_ UPSEB and NCL have been been opened. According to the. advised to resot ve the matter through modified guidelines issued by the discussion. Ministry of Finance, the staff component of Plan Schemes (Le. Assistance for Setting up of Mini/ both crca tion and filling UP of Micro Power Units in Kerala posts) is to be approved by the MinislIY. Further extension of 2308. SHRI K. MOl-lAND AS : Will postal nct work has also to take the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to into account the finding of the state : Committee of Enqt:iiry into the Extra-departmental System to the (a) w,hether the Union Government effect that there are over 12,000 have provided any assistance to Kera)a post offices working within 3 kms. Government for setting· up Mini/micro of each other many of which need power units in the State; and not be continued. The Department of Posts is also carrying out an (b) if so, the details thereof 1 exercise to see in what respects the norms to be adopted for opening of post offices need to be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE modified in the 1ight of the exten.. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE sive postal network already avai MINlSTRY 014 ENERGY (SHRIMATI lable. When this exercise is S·USHILA ROHfAGI): (a) and (b). No completed, the justifiea tion for assistance is being provided separately for new post offices during the Seventh setting up mini Imicro power projects in Plan period is to be worked out Kcrala. These scheme are being executed afresh. under the normal State Plan power pro aramme. (ii) Telecom, Services: Nine thousand Opening of Telegraph Offices and Tele Lona Distance Public Telephones . pbone Ex<:hanl1es in Andbra Pradesb ar.e planned to be opened during the Seventh Five Year Plan period . . 2309. SHRI T. BALA GaUD : Will Some of these )oca tions are likelY the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be to -be provided with telegraph pleased to state: facilities. In addition it is pro.. pbsed to add ~L 34 Jakh lines of (a) the number of post offices, telegraph large capacity equipment in OVer offices and telephone exchanges proposed 100 exchanges. It is a]so proposed to be opened during the Seventh Plan to add approximately 4.7 lakh period; lines of medium and small capacity 249 Writ'", Answers KARTn{A 21, 1908 (SAKA) Written Answers i so excha.nges. It is not' possible to 13. Pembi project the Dumber of such size exctanges for the five year period 14. N erbd igonda as it depends on location from which demand for new small ex.. IS. Babasagar . ' changes arise. 16. Biravelli (b) (iJ Nil in respect of post offices in 17. Nigna view of (a) (i) above. 18. ChalJagariga 19. Tadai (ii) 1120 Long Dis!ance Public T:le phones and about 600 small 20. Tatikonda capacity exchanges are proposed 21. Nagacam to be opened during the current year. Some of these locations are 22. MuthapaJli likely to be provided with teJe 23. graph facilities, Tahnika))u 24. Mamagudeir (c) 0) Doc~ not arise in respect of Post Offices in view of re-plies a t (a) (j) 25. VaJlabhi and (b) (1) above. 26. Siripura (ii) List of TeJephoce Exchanges and 27. Penagadapa Long Distance Public Telephone to be opened in Andhra Pradesh 28. Pednmunagala during the current year is given in 29. Pinapaka the Statement-land II below. 30. N ara yana pu ra Statement-I 31 . Madhivaam The names of places whe,e new ex~ 32. Nuthankal changes 'lre proposed to be opened during this financial year subject to 33. Danavaram availability/demand, stores and finan .. 34. Agamotkur cial viability of the proposals. 35. Beerpur 1. Andhra Pradesh 36. Chillapur 1. Armenipadu 37. Dongathrthi 2. Donkesat 3. BachepaJli 38. Mallapalli 4. Allipur 39. Govardhangiri S. Arukonu 40. Odella 6. Podulabad 41. Chabala 1. Arutla 42. Narasapuran 8. Loyapalli 43. Gnruguchiner 9. Inderkaran 44. Kada vakallu 10. Gopanapa1Ji 45. Kalipi 11. Domaraspet 46. Kandur 12. Amarabad 47. 'Lakkanpalli 251 Written Answ,r, NOVEMBBR 18. 1986 Wrltt,n Answers ~S2 48. Vaoanaladioni 3. R. K. Puram 49. ~dvanur 4. Gancheri SO. Cbodasamudran S. Romicbarla S 1. Krisbnapuram 6. Mallampalli 52. Y. S. Gate 7. Alurkona 53. Ramasanudran 8. Donlmada S4. Devarakonda 9. Talipallu S'. Pedathumbalan 10. Kotalingana 56. Vempenta 11. NagaJ!gedda S7. Mamidalapadu 12. Madakasira 58. Nidumosala 13. Vallalnaddi 59. Annamedu 14. C. R ew"a lIa bOo Mambattu 1 S. Mustipalli 61. Yellampet 16. Vasapa1am 62. Ettigunta 17. Basfir 63. Adamilli 18. Ameenpur 64. Doramamidi 19. Hangar 65. Anuman.. chipalli 20. Manuru 66. Kanduou 21. Pa ttapadu 67. Gajjaragulla 22 Mattapalli 68. Mogalluru 23. Namuru 69. Kanakalagunta 24. DotJacherupalli 70. Darbharevu 25. Painampuram 71. Sarangapuran 26. Kosapatnam 72. RyaH 27. Uppalapadu 73. Malakapalli 28. Kapparatulla 74. Dosakayalapalli 29. Thimrayanapatta 30. Thippanur .. 75. Bondapalli 76. Manobarbad (JlJready opened) 3 t. T. Bal"padu 77. Antharan (already opened) 32. Ankepalli 78. Manglapalli.Palelguda (already 33. MUngapadu opened) 34. Peddarevali Statement .. II 35. Gokaram Propos,d Sites for opening of IDPTs 36. Raghagonda in Andh,a Prade~h during 1he year 31. Manihatti 1986-87 38. Madigal t .. Podanpetapalli 39. VasuUa 2. Induprian 40. -radkal. 2. 53 Written Answer I KARTIKA 27, 1908 (SALA) . Wrltte,. Answer, 2$ 4 Construction of Building for Telegraph SUSHILA ROHTAOU (a) As per Office and Telephone Excbanges. in Maharasbtra State Electricity Board, the Andbra Pradesh energy requirement is being fully met in tbe State of Mabarashtra. 2310. SHRI T. BALA. GOUD : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (b) Does Dot arise in view of (a) above. te) foUowing (a) whether many telephone exchanges The projects bave been accorded techno-economic clearance and telegraph offices in Andhra Pradesh are by Central Electricity Authority and are not housed in suitable buildings and also Ilwaiting investment approval:- these are working with very old equipments; and (i) Koyne Stage.. IV (Hyde)) 6 X 125 MW (b) if so,. the steps Government propose to take in this regard? (ii) Uran Waste Heat (Thermal 3 X 120 MW THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (iii) Western Maharashtra' (Thermal) (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : (a) The 1 X500 MW policy of the Department is to. house sma 11 Telephone Exchanges and Telegraphs (iv) Sardarsarovar (Hydel) (common Offices in the good rented buildings project between Madhya Pradesh! available at site. Gujarat!Maharashtra) 6 X 200 f- 5XSO MW There are a few small excbnn@es working with old equipments. Approval of the project is contingent ,on a number of foctors which include tying up of fuel linkage, availability of (b) Steps are being taken to replace resources, inter-se priority accorded by the the old equipments subject to the concerned State, environmental clearance aVi\iJabili ty of the resources. etc. It is therefore not practicable to indicate a specific time frame for according Requirement of Energy in Maharasbtra investment approval to these projects. 2311. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL Plan for Petrocbemic.al Units in North· Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased East Region to state : 2312. SHRI SANAT KUMAR (a) whether the energy requirement of MANDAL Will the Minilter of the State of Maharashtra is being met INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : fully; (a) whether Government have prepared (b) if not, the total production of a plan for setting up petro-chemical units energy in the State, the extent of shortfall in the North·East region; and the quantum of power made available to the State through the national grid; and (b) if so, its broad outlines; and (c) the detaHs of the schemes for (c) the capital outlay involved therein? power generation that are awaiting Central clearance with the projected capacity of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE each scheme .and by what time these win DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND be cleared '1 PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTl<.Y (SHRI R. K. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN'lHB JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) No .. Sir: DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF ENER.GY Development or SprrAg-Operated Mechanism by BHEL Hyderabad nine more countries on overseas circuits vito New Zealand, Zimbabwe, Iceland, 2313. SHRI S.- PALAKONDRA. Seychelles, Gibralter, Lux~mbourg, Tonga, YUDU : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY Papua New Guinea and Portugal. be pleased to state : Complaints Against Development Commissioner (Drugs) (a) whether it is a fact that Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL), Hyderabad has developed a spring-operated 2315. PROF. MADHU DANDA. mechanism for 145 KV SF6 circuit VA TE : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY breakers; be pleased to refer to tbe reply given to Unstarred Question No. 5195 on 8 Apri) (b) if so, the details of the research 1986 regarding production of bulk dru&~ and whether it is a fact that it ,has received and state: international certification; and . (a) ~~elher eKamination of alleged (c) if so, the detaiJs of tbe certifica Irregularthes and complaints against the tion ? . office of the Development Commissioner (Drugs) has since been completed; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER (b) if so, what are the findings of the PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF inquiry and action taken thereon 1 INDUSTRY (PROF. K. K. TEWARY): (a) Yes, Sir THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (b) and (c). The Rand 0 project was PETROCHEMICALS IN THE MfNISTR Y taken up by BHEL with the objective of OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAJ. reducing the cost and import content. CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. After extensive research a proto type circuit breaker with BHEL developed (b) Does not arise. spring mechanism was manufactured and sent for type testing to Centro Electro [Trans In 1ion] Tecbnico Sperimentale Italiano, Italy, which is one of the few internationally recognised Economic Development of India testing authorities. The Breaker has passed in October 86, all the tests specified 2316. SHRI'TEJA SINGH DARDI : by the International Electro Technioal SHRI BALWANT SINOH Commission (lEe). RAMOOW ALIA: Direct Dialling System under Installation with Other Countries Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2314. SHRI SYED SHAHA· BUDDIN: Will 1be Minister of (OM· (a) whether Government's attention MUNICATIONS be pleased to state the has been drawn to the report recentJy nameS of countries with which direct submitted by a study group of International dialling system is under installation? Labour Organisation stating that despite rural electrification, India has not THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE developed economically; MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV) : The International Subscriber Trunk Dialling is (b) if so, the reaction of Goverri", p. _• planned to be introduced to four countries in this regard; and on terrestrial circuits, namely, to Bangladesh. Nepal, Pakistan and Bhutan. (c) the details of action takon in t!'e The fa~ilit)' is planned to be extended to matter '1 257 Written Answ~'s , . KARTIKA 27, 1908 THB MINISTER OF· STATE IN TR'B Power Pro'e~ts Under Construction In. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE States MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHI LA ROHTAGI) : (a) to (c). The 2318. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL inform~tion is beinl collected and witl SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA be laid on the Table of the House. Win the Minister of ENERGY be [English] pleased to state: Functioning of National Legal Aid Committee (a) the number of power projects under construction in each State at pre~ent; 2317. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS : Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE (b) the percentage of power likely to be plea~ed to state ~ be increased on the completion of these projects; (u) whether it is a fact that the N3tional Legal Aid Committee set up by Government is functioning at national, (c) whether the power problem will be state and district levels; and ... . solved after the completion of these pc ojects; and (b) the details of the activities under- taken by this Committee sin ce its (d) jf not, whether Government propose inception '1 to install more power project] in the country during the Seventh Five Year Plan; to meet the increasing demand of power, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the details thereof '1 MlNISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H. R BHARDWAJ) : (a) and (b). The Committee for Implementing Legal THE MINIS.TER OP STATE IN THE Aid Scheme was constituted by the Govern DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE ment on September 26, 1980 initiallY for MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI a period of 3 years, but its term was SUSHILA ROHTAGJ) : (a) The number extended from time to time, and lastly, of power projects in each State scheduled upto September 30, 1987. The Committee for benefits during Seventh Five Year Plan is functioning from New Delhi. The is given in the statement below. Committee evo1 ved a Model Scheme for Legal Aid Programme, under which th ~ State Governments have set up State Legal (b) With the commissionina of these Aid and Advice Boards a( the State level power projects, the installed generating and Legal Aid Committees at the High capacity will be augmented by aboat Court and the District 1evel. The Legal 24500 MW. This represents an increase of Aid Programme adopted by the Committee about 57.6 % in capacity addition over the is of two-fold in cbaracter-( a) cOUrt or capacity" at the end of Sixth Five Year litiga.tion oriented legal aid programme; Plan. and (b) preventive or strategic legal aid programme. The Committee for Imple .\c) All efforts are being made to menting Legal Aid Schemes renders ameliorate the power supp1y position in fi 1anclal as&i&tance to these Boards and the country. other social action groups for the implementation of strategic/preventive legal aid programmes as also for specific Cd) Some short gestation projects legal aid progranlmcs undertaken by the totalling '2225 MW whiC'b were not State Governmepts in accordance with the included in the VII Plan original1y are norms for grant-in-aid approved by the proposed to be imple.Jllen~ed during the VII Committee. !'1aD. 2.59 Written AIIIW,r. NOVBMBER 18, 1986 Wrltttlft AII$wers 160 Statement lb.) whether the Patent Information System (PIS) has felt any difficulty in Number of Power Projects Under acquirinltbe published world wide patent Construction In. States/CentrtJl Sector document'S; and (c' if so, the at eps taken to remedy the State/Centre Number of Projects situation? THE MH'~nSTER OF STATE IN THE. a Haryan DEPARrMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Himachal Pradesh DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY tSHRI M. ARUNA Jammu & Kashmir 3 CHALAM) : (u) Ine Patent lnrormation 3 System (PIS). Nagpur ha.s been set UP Punjab with the object of furnishingin formation Rajasthan 3 contained in Patent documents published in 4 various countries of the world for the Uttar Pradesh bene'fit of variuus Industrial Undertakings, Delhi 2 R&D Organisations, Government Departments and otber users in this 4 Gujarat country as well as for conducting novelty Madhya Pradesh 6* 1iearch envisaged under section 13(2) of the Pat~nts Acts 1970. The Patent Docu- Maharashtra 12 ments from fordgn countries like USA, UK Anobra I'ra desb 7 USSR, Japan, Netherlands, Au'tralia, German Democratic Republic and Karnataka 3 European Patent Office are beIng regularly 1'1', procured in this organ:sation, out of which Kerala' 4 USA, UK, European Patent Office and Tamil Nadu 6 part of Australian Patenl Documents are in microform. Bihar 5 Orissa 3 (b) No, Sjr. West ftenga1 4 (c) Does not arise. Assam 6 Industries in Konkan Region Tripura 2320. PROF. MADHU DANDA· Manipur 1 VATB: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : Central Sector 2S (a) what concrete steps are being taken by the Union Government to start new *This lnclud~s ODQ project which is a joint project of the' States ,of Madb~a industries in the blckward Konkan region Pradesh! Maharashtra. of Maharashtra and prevent the closing down of sick units in this region in con formity with the national objective of Acquisition of Patent Informaltions by Patent Information S~stem, Nagpur correcting the region imbalances; (b) whether Government are vigor 2319. DR. CHINTA MOHAN : Will ously pursuing efforts to restart the defence.. the Minister of INOUSTR Y be pleased to oriented W. G Forge and Allied Industries st.ate : at Kudal in Sindhudurg district of tbe backward Konken region; and (a) the nature of patent informations being ncquircd by the recently set up (c) if so, when it would be possible Patent Informati9D System, Naspur: to start this unit? ~61 W,liten An.swer~ KAR. TtKA 27, t 908 .(SAK.4) Written Answer~ 262 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether some concrete suggestions DEPARTMENT OF JNDUSTRIAL DEVB have been given by the Bureau of Public· LOPMENT IN THE MINISTR.Y OF Enterprises in regard to setting up of public INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): sector enterprises in the country; and (a) It is the accepted policy of the Government to remove regional imbalances (b) if ~o, the details thereof and the by encouragiC'g the setting up of industries steps taken by Government in this regard 1 in backward areas-including the backward areas of Konkan region. Towards this .. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE end it is operating a number of concessions/ DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTERPRI incentives like Central Investment Subsidy SES IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY Conccssional Finance, Tax Concessiors etc. (PROF. K. K. TEWARY): ~a) No, Sir. Details of all these incentives are given in the booklet on "Incentives for industries in Backward Areas", read with Press NC'te No. (b) Does not arise. 14/2f83-DBA I dated 9.4.1985 and Notifi cation No. 4/2/86-DBA-ll dated 25.4.1986, Complaints regarding tbefts, corrup copies of which arc available in the Parlia. tion etc. in Various Vltits of BHEL ment Library. 2322. DR. A. K. PATEL: Will The Central Government have laid the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to down policy guidelines in October, 1981 state : for tackling the problems of industrial sickness in the country. All cases of sick (a) the number of complaints relating units, including these relating to konkan to thefts, corruption, economic offences region of Maharashtra are to be dealt with and misuge of authority in various unh s of in accordance with these guidelines. The BHEL received during each of the last salient features of these guidelines were three years and the current yei.l r so far, furnished in reply to Lok Slbha Unstarred year·wise and units-wise; -and Questioh No. 204 on 23.1.1985. (b) the number of officers found KuBty (b) and (c). The affairs of this units in each unit, action taken against them and have been discussed hl consider the possi· the amount involved in each case '1 bilities of its revival. However, in view of the extremely unsatifactory financial position of the company and the uncertain prospects THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of its revival, no suitable solution could be DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC ENTER found. PRISES IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS TRY' (PROS. K. K. TEWARY): (a) Sett ing up of Public Sector Enterprises The infOrmation is given in Statement I. 2321. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU : (b) The information is given in Win the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Statement 11. Written Answers t40vEMs2R 18, 1986 W,ltten ,AIIlWer.s ~64 -; 0 t4"\ CIO ('ot ...... t"-- """"..... M 0 1- ~ \0 -" M """" ...-4..... · "t).-~..... 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Q 0 III) is .c """" """" .:a t:Q - <'; -'"00 u r:: M \0 ~ lin 00 .....::s 00 co 00 0, t;/'I t':S"'" 0\ 0\ 0 Q) ...... -0. - :;:J -~ > ...... 0 f-!- 0. z. . . .. ~ - N ~ ...t 265 W,ltten Answers KARnKA 27, 1908 Statement II Number of Officers found guilty in various linUs 0/ BHEL. ------'-_._-._"-- Unit Remyval Promotion/ Reduction Warnedl Admini,s- Total fr('m increnlent in grtldel Censured tnitive Service withheld pay Action Bhopal 1 2 1 2 6 Tricby 4 6 1 11 Hyderabud 1 5 1 7 Hardwal' 2 2 Blectro-porcelain 1 1 Divisioh, Bangalore Power Group t 2 3 Total 4 11 1 13 1 30 Note: The amount involved in each case cannot be quantified as the complaints relate to various kinds of offences. Losses in State Electricity Hoards Name of the SEB (Rs. erores) 2323. SH~I S. G. GHOLAP: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to 1. Andhra Pradesh <+ ) 103.23 stat e : 2. Bihar (-_ ) 189.66 (a) whether many State Electricity 3. Haryana (-) 337.79 Boards have incurred heavy losses, if so the position in Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, 4. Karnataka (-+ ) 120.6 Haryana, Karnataka, Maharashtra, UUar Pradesh and Assam upto 1985·86; 5. Maharashtra (-) 169.80 (b) the directives given by the Union 6. Uttar Prade sh (-) 103.40 Government to States to reduce the losses and action taken by them; and 7. Assam (-) 327.54 (c) the progress at regional and national grids? (b) The Electricity (Supply) Act; 1948 was. amended in 1983 to provide for eaci THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE State Electricity Board to carryon its DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE operations and adjust its tariffs jn such a MINISTRY OF E~ERGY SHRIMATI way a s to earn a net surplus of 3 % (or SUSHILA ROIITAGI): \a) Yes, Sir. such higher percentage as . may be fixed by The commulative profits (+ )flosses l-) the' State Government) of the net fixed of the referred State Electricity Boards upto assets at the beginning of the year. The 1985 .. 86 (based on assessed figures furni State Electncity Board shave been requested shed by these Boards in their Annual Plans) to draw up Acti'on Plans for improving their are given below :- financial performance. 161 Written Answers (c) Reaional Elec1ricity Boards have Setting up or-- Cement Factories in been set up to accelerate the process of GuJarat integrated operation of the regional s),stenlS 232i SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN which would ultimately lead to the for , . RAMJlBH ~l MAV ANI : Will the Minlsler mation of a National Power Grid. of lNDUSTR Y be pleased to state: [Translation) (a) the number of proposals received from private and public sectors as wen Development Scheme for Singrauli Area in Madhya Pradesb 'hs from Gujara t Government during the last three Years for the establishment of Cement factories as well as for the issue of 2324. SHRI DILEEP SINGH letters of intent at various places in BHURIA : WiU the Minister of ENEROY Gujarat; be pleased to state: (bl the number of proposals approved; <', (a) whether Government have drawn (c) the number of Cement factories up any development scheme f\)r Sinsrauli already esta b1i5hcd during these years and area in Mad hya Pradesh; their yearly production; and (b) if so, the expenditure involved (d) whether the production of Cement thetein; and in Gujarat is sufficient to meet the demand of Gujarat '1 (c) steps taken to implement the said TIlE MINISTER OF SrATE IN THE scheme ~ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL IJEVELOPMENT IN THE MINtSTR Y OF INDUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA. T.<\E MINISrE~ OF STATE IN THE CHALAM): (a) and (b). Out of the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE total of 24 Industrial Licence applications MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI received during the last three years (1983. SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The 85) for setting up of cenlent plants in integrlfed development of the Singraulj various places in the State Gujarat, 11 area is coordinated a Planning Coor by applications had been approved and dination Committee set up the Govern by Letters of Intent w~re issued. ment. The Town and Country Planning Organisation of the Ministry of Urban (c) During t he above three years, I 2 Development have since drawn up a. draft Master Plan which is ;n the process of new cement factories in Gujarat had gone finalisa ti on. into production. Their production during the last three years was as follows :- Production in lakh tonnes Year No. of Production Tota) production factories of new in the State factories 1983 1 2.78 21.05 1984 3 0.1 t 21.2 1985 8 0.24 269 Nr/ltlll Answers KARTIKA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Written A,,\,wlrs 2. 70 . (d) As against the total -production of Rice is issued at specially subsidised 21.93 laks tonnes, during 1984.8$ the rates under sch,emcs like the Rural Land. demand was estimated at 32.00 lath le,;s Employment Guarantee programme, tonnel. the National Rural Employment Programme and Nutrition Pro&rammes for YOUDS FixatioD of Procurement Prite of children, pregnant woman a od our.ina Paddy rnotbers. and in the Integra·ted Triba J Development proje~t areas. 2326. ~HRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Statement SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Procurement of Paddy • (a) whether it is a fact that Govern (Position as on 13th November) ment had raised the procurement price of paddy by Rs. 4 per quintal for all varieties Stat.! 1985·86 1986-87 common, fine and super fine, and if so, Season Season whether this has helped io greater procure ment of padd~ and if so, the State·wise Haryana lOS S break up, with figures for the last year in Punjab 2748 2052 each case; Tamil Nadu 35 93 (b) whether raising the procurment Uttar Pradesh 2 Neg. price without raising the element of subSidy Pondi cherry 1 Neg. on saJe price wilt further aggravate the sale price of rice and make it beyond the reach Total 2891 2150 of the poor; and Neg.; Below 500 lonnes. (c) if so, the steps being taken to Ban on Import of Duty Free Alcobol ensure that the interest of the consumers below the poverty Jine, is not affected 2327. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will adverse ly ? the Min\ster of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE.IN THE MINISTR Y OF FOOD AND CIVIL (a) whether Government propose to SUPPLIES (SHRI GAULAM NABI impose ban ·on duty free imports of alcohol. AZAD): (a) The procurement prices of commoo. fine and superfine varieties of (b) if so, whether such a measure paddy were raised by Rs. 4 per quintal would hard hit the drugs and pharnaceuti.. w.e.f.1.10.1986. All paddy conforming cal industries of West Bengal; to the prescribed specifications and brought to and offered for sale at specified points (c) whether States surplus in produc is purcha~ed by public procuring agencies tion of alcohol are supplying to West under price support. A statement showing Bengal as per qu ola allotted by . the Central the State-wise procurement of paddy during Molasses Board; and the 1985-86 and 1986.87 kharif marketing (d) jf nut, the reasons therefor? seasons is given below. THE Ml.NISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF. CHEMICALS AND (b) and (c). The Central food subsidY PETRO·CliEMICALS IN THE MINISTER Y is the amount of the difference between the OF INDUSTRY (SHRI R. K. JAJ. economic cost of procured grains nnd their CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) and (b). Tho central issue price. The retail price matter is under consideration. of rice under the public distribution system is fixed by the Stat.: Governmer. ts and (c) and (d). Sufficient quantities of Union Territory Administrations, taking alcohol have been allocated for supply into account their distribution cost, adminis to West Bengal by the States of U.P., trative expenses and. subsidies, if any, anQ Maharasbtra and Bihar. vary from Stat" to State. 211 NOVEMBBR 18. 1986 272 12.00 brs. MR. SPEAKER: If you know that I am going to do some injust ice, there is no [English] question of discussing it. Why do yoU SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA c9me to unnecessary conclusi0ns 1 (Bankura) : Yesterday two Members were (Interruptions) not allowed to put 'questions in the Half-an Hour discussion. SHRIMATI OEETA MUKHERJEE (Panskura) : We have given Adjournment SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Harbour): The rights of Members of Motion on the hike in Posta] and Telephone rates. Parliament have been takon away by not being· allowed to ask questions and partici. p:1te in the Half-an-Hour discussion. SHRI AMAL DATT.A : This is a very important matter. TeJephone rentals are SHRI BASUDEB ARCHARIA: Mem going to be. doubled. bers were not allowed to put questions yesterday and whatever questions 1 put were (Interruption~) not nn swered. MR. SPEAKER: The very same thing is happening again without rhyme and rea. MR. SPEAKER : I met you. We son. Nothing goes on record. will discuss it later on and find a way out. ( Interruptionl) SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (Bolpur) : This is very unfortunate. You permitted a subject to be discussed. No SHRI AMAL DATTA: All the facts and figures must be put before us. answer is given. Discussion is not allowed to be completed. MR. SPEAKER You are a very good MR. SPEAKER: That we will discuss. lawyer. 1 cannot discuss on tbe floor of the House how it happened. I will call you and talk SHRI AMAL DATTA Y es. I 1lope to you. so. SflRI AMAL DATTA: Will you allow MR. SPEAKER: Unfortunately you that discussion to be completed '? have got a very hardy throat also. You do not listen. I say that we cannot take up MR. SPEAKER: That is what 1 said. a thing which has not taken place; we I told you earlier also. I w ill discuss it' cannot take up a conjecture. If there is with you. anything, we will get it discussed. SHRI AMAL DATTA : The fact SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA CBasirhat) remains that the discussion wars not com- Then it will be too late. Once theY"annou pleted. nce their decision, there is nothing that can be done. You will be helpless. MR. SPEAKER: That is what I am going to discuss with you. MR. SPE"AKER : You have my assurance on one thing. If there is anything SHRI AMAL DATTA: Please assure which is vital and important to you and us that you wilJ allow the dlscussion to be to the people of this country, I will get it completed. discussed. MR SPEA.KER.: I will discuss it with SHRI BASUDEB ACRAR(A: This is you. very much vital. SHRI AMAL DATTA ~ We have full SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: There are fnith that you will surely try to do justice. not supplementary grants. We are now We just want aD assurance. discussing Supplementary Demands O~Deral KARTIKA 21, 1908 'fSAKA) 1'4 and Railways. This is just, a straight hike' MR. SPEAKER: If the law allows that theY want to make of Rs. 500 crores. them t 'I cannot help It. These .are public utility ser·vices. 1Iley ar,e not luxuries. Ordil1ary' people use (Interruptions) inland letter forms and envelcpes.' They . want to charge, one rupee for each tele. MR. SPEAKER ': I will get it discussed • phone caJJ. . I cnn aJJow you a rliscussion. This is what I can db. I cannot stop it. III. (Interruptions) (Interruptlolls) MR. SPEAKER; You do Dot listen. MR. SPEAKER I cannot discuss I said I will get it . discussed on the floor conjectures. of the House. SHRI P:" NAMGYA.L (Ladakh): Sir, .SHRI IN'DRAIIT GUPTA: lbese are please loo~ at thi~ side a1so. public utility services. Th'ey cannot do it without consulting Parliament. (In terrput ions) (Interruptions) [TransIQtion] MR. SPEAKER: Let them say what .. MR. SPEAKER. : If YOD give a notice ever they like. But it does not forro part of I can an ow . it. I can do little in this the record. regard. rEnglish] (In terrnptions) '" , . SHRI P. NAMGYAL : I will give [Translo lion} notIce under Rule 193. Thank you. MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Shri Gupta, I feel ashamed when you also behave in (Interruptions) such a manner. I will try may best and will request to try your best. rTranslation] . SHRI HARISH RAWAT At least SHRI INnRAJlT GUPTA: How can alJow us to speak. dq it. '" 'AI,t.r [English] [English] MR. SPEAKER: Mr.' MohantYt wbf1t Once they a.nnoun,ce i.t, you can~ot do is your point of Order ? -lything. ..'. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY' MR. SPEAKER: What can YOU do? (Puri) : Sir, in my, constituency, 0[1 11th Nov. there has been dislocation of coaches (Interruptions) on account of negligence' and mis .. handling by the railway employees which resulted in SHRI INORAJIT GUPTA: Once they deatb of two persons and more thaD 20 announce their decision, .neither you·nor we people were seriou bly' injured. Campen .. can do anything, sati9n is inadequate. Treatment' is Dot properly being done~ ,SHRI.AMAL DATTA: 'They have not· denied this repo~t. (Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Give it in writina • . SHRt INDRAJIr G UPT A: Let them d('ny ~his report .. (lnt~rruplions) * ... I.. Not focorde{.l, . ,. , " ' 21' NOVEMBER. ,18, 1986 Poper! Laid ,.216 [English) [TrGftslotioll] SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam) , ~HRI HARISH, RAWAT : The work YO)! ask (he Minister to give a clarification. in ~ational Grid is', badly affecttd.'becauae of , Power Ensineer's strike in West lln;erruption.sY , , Bengal. .• (IntelluDtions) SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA': Win you hold, 'a meeting, atleast, in your Chamber -z [English] (Translation) , SHRI BASUDEa ACHARIA : We ,are 'Yalking out in 'protest .. ~ MR.. SPEAKER : Shri Gupta what can 1 say till something happens. 1 cannot do (Shrl Basud_eb Acharia and 'some anytbina except ~llowing a discuss.ion on it. other Hon. Members . then left the House) , [English] I am not barring any discussion. ( Interruption$) [Troftslatioll] [Translation] .. MR. SPEAKER: When have' [ stopped SH'RI INDRAJIT GUPTA : After the it? This is not so, , decision is taken, you ask the Minister fo clarify. (Interruptions) MR. 'SPEAKER What can I do ? [English] [Eng"lish] . SHRI DINBSH DOSW AMI \ (Guwabati) IS the. newspapers, they have ,I cannot force them. I do not know. announced this ,policy decision, when the • Parliament is in session. It is a matter ( Interruptions) of impropriety. You should intervene. [T;ansl~tlon] MR. SPEAKER :' I cannot go by newspaper reports.,. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: They are making a hike of Rs. 500 crores. ( Interruptions) (Intet rupt';ofls) MR', SPEAKER : I, cannot take up [English] conjectures for discussion. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : He blS '\ not contradicted. 11.06 hrs. SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Salem) : Sir, the N~tional -Power Grid PAPER.S LAID ON, THE TABLE is failing becau~e of the workers' strike which is going on in West Benga1 for the [ Ent'ish] ~ past 26 days. The whole country will be, Report df Jostic:c D. R. Khanna' Commls- " affec;ted. In Benga}, tber~ is a work.to. sion of Inquiry appointed to inquire into rule.',. the incident of fire at Hotel Siddhartb Co"Unental, Vasaat Vihar New Delhi. [Translation] MR. SPBA,KER. : Give a notice. , THE MINISTER OF HOME AFPAIRS ,(SHRl S. BUTA·SINO'H): Sir, I "eg to lay [English] on the Table, a copy ea ch 'of the fO,lkwing papers (Hindi and EngJi,h versions) . SHRI P. R. 'KUMARAMANGALAM under .sub·s(cti(lD (4) of [(ction 3 of the 1 have, given a Calling Attention notice. ,,' COlJlmi86~Ons of Inquhy Act, 19'2 :-, 211 Papers Lalti KARTIKA 27, 1908 (SAKA) Popers Laid 278 (1) . Report of Justice ,D. R.. Khanna copy each· ,of the following N otificationa Commission of . Inqu~ry appointed (Hindi and English versions) under sub to inquire into ,the incident of section (5) of . section 45 of the Food ,fire. at Hotel Siddharth Continental, COTporations Act, 1964;- Vasant Vihar, New Delhi. (1) The Food Corporation of India (2) Memorandum of Action Taken on (Death"cl,.lm-Rc;tirement Gratuity) the above report. (Bighth Amendment) Regulatjons, 1986 published in Notification [Placed in Library. ,~ee So. LT 322();86] No. 36/No. EP. '39-2/85 in Gazette of India, dated the 14th The High Courts Judges (Amendment)' October, 1986. Rules, 1986. The S~Jpreme Court Judges (Amendment) Delhi, 1986. (2) The Food Corporation of India THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Staff) Ninety-third Amendment) MINISTRY OF LAW AND .J~STICE Regulations, 1986 published in (SHRI ·H. R. BHARDWAJ) : On behalf Notificati~n 'No. 37/F. No. EP. of ShT'i Asoke Kumar Sen,. The Minister of 3.8/79 18 Ga=?\!tte of India dated Law and Justice, I beg to lay OIl the the 14th Octob~r, 1.986. Table:-:- [Placed in 'Library See No. LT .3229/86] (1) A copy of the High Court Judges (·Amendment) Rules, 1986 (Hindi Annual Report ~ and Re"iews. 00 the working of the Madras Refineries Limited, antl English versions) published in Madras and Engineers India Limited, New Notification No. G. S. R. ·1175 . Delhi. (E) in Gazttte of India dated the 4th November, 1986 under sub THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE section (3) of . section 24 C'f the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM' AND High Courts Judges (Conditions NATURAL . 'GAS (SHRI BRAHMA of Service) Act, 1954. DUTf) : Sir. I beg to lay on the Table a [Placed in Library. See No. LT 3227/86] copy each of the following papers (Hindi and English versions) under sU,b-section (1) (2) A copy of the Supreme Court of section 619A of the Companies Act, 1956:-' .. Judses (Amendment) Rules,. 1 ~86 (H indi and ,English ~ersions) , published in Notification (1) (i) R(wiew by the Government No. G.S.R. 1176 (E) in Gazette on the working of th~ Madras of India. dated the 4th November, Refineries Limited, Mad·ras, 1986 under sub-section (3) of for the year 1985-86. sectioQ 24 of the Supreme Court Judges (Conditions of Service) (ii) .Annual Report of the Madras Act, 1958. Refineries Lim i ted, Madras, for the 'year J98S·S6 along [PJaced in Library Sec No. LT 3228/86] with Audited Accounts and ,the comments of the . The' Food Corporation of India (Death Comptroller And A Auditor cum-Retirement Gratu_ity) lEigbth Amend· General ment) Regulations, 1986 " . thereon. . (Placed in LH.rary. See No. LT 3230/86J THE MiNISTER OF stATE IN THE MINISTRY Of FOOD AND ClVIL (i) Rev.iew by the Government SUPPLIES (SHRI OHULAM NABI (2) on the working of the AZAD): On' behalf of Shri H. K.', L. Engineers India Limited. Bhagat, The Minister of Parliamentary New Delhi, for the yeal' Affairs 'and Minister of Food and Civil Supplies. I bea to lay on ,ille Table a 1985~86. .' i' " (ii), Annual Report of, the Control) Amendment Order, Enaineers India Limited, 19'86 published, in Notifica New Delhi, for the year tion, No. S. O. 696 (E) ,in , 19 8S-86 along with Audited Qazette of India. dated the Accounts and the commepts 30th September, 1.986. of tbe, Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. Hi) S. O. 802 (E) 'published -in Gazette of India dat-ed ,the ['Plaeed In ~Ibrary See No. LT 3231/86] 30th October, . 1986 containing Order rescitldinl (0 Review' by the (.3) Oov~rnment the .Wheat. Roller Flour' on the working of' the ,Mills (l"icensing and Contro]) Lubrizol India Limited, order, 1957 published in Bombay, for the year 19'85- Notifi,cation No. S. R. o. 86. 2861 dated the 9th September, 1957. (ii) Annu~l Report of 'the [Placed in Library See No_, L T 3234/86] Lubrizol Ind ia Limjted, " , . Bombay. for the year 1985.. Notifica I ion 'under Sub·Section (3) o'r 86 along with Audited Section 637 of the Companies Act, 1956. Accou,nts and the comments of ',the Comptroller and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Auditor Genera 1 thereon. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF " [Placed ,in Library. See N,o. LT 32321~6] INpUSTRY (SHRI M. ARUNA:. CHALAM) : Sir, I beg.to ,lay on the Table Standards of Weights and l\·Ieasures (Packaged Commodities) Second Amend a copy of Notification No. G. S. R. 742 ment Rules, 1986 and Notifications under (Hindi and English versions) published in gssential Commodities Act, 1955. Gazette of India dated the 13th September, 1986 rescinding Notification No. G. S. R. THE MINISTER OF STArE IN THE 2763 published in Gazette of India dat~d 'MINISTRY OF fOOD AND CIVIL the 15th December, 1969 under sub SUPPLIES (SHRI GHULAM NABI section (3) of section 637 of the AZAD) : Sir, I beg to 1.ay on the Table:- Companies Act, 1'956. [Placed in Library See No. LT 3235/86] (1) A copy of the Standards of Weights and Measures (Packaged Com: Annoal Report and Review on the working modities) Second Amendment of the Hindustan Antibiotics Limited, Pilnpri, Pune for the years 1985 .. 86, Rules, 1986 (llindi and English versions)' published in Notification THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE No. G. S. R. 1005 \B) in Gazt:Ue DEPART~ENT OF INDUSTRIAL, of India dated the 8th August, DEVELOPMENT .IN THE MIN1STRY 1986 under sub-section (4) of OF INDUSTRY (2) ,Annual KepOft of th~ Hindustan "In accordance wi'th ,tbe provisions of' Antibioticl Limited, Pimpri, Pune, rule 127 of the Rules of Procedure and' for the yea'r 198 S· 8 6 along witll Conduct of' .Business· in the Rajya 'Audited Accounts and· the com Sabh6, I am directed. to inform the mo!nts of the Comptroller 'and lok. Sa hha' that the R3jya SabhCl, at its ,Auditor General thereon. sitting held on .the 17th November, 1986, aaread Wilhout any amendment [Plaed in Library.' See r\o. LT 32.3(1/86] "',. to the Industrial Finance Corporation Indian 'telegraph (Third Amendment) (Amendment) Bill, 1986, which was Rqles; 1986. pas8cd by the Lok Sabha at its sitting hc1u on the 22nd July, 1986:" THE MlNISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): Sir" PUBLIC ACCOU~TS COMMITTEE I beg to . la'y on the Table a, copy of the Indian Telegraph (Third Amen,dment) Ac:tion takeo( Statement Rules, 1986 (Hindi and EngJish versions) pUblished in Notification No. o. S. R. 566 .[ Engli.,h] in 'Gazet (e of India dated • the 2_6th July, 1986 under sub-seClion (5) of s:ctioo 7 of SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY lKurnool): the Ind,hin' Telegraph Ac~, 1985. Sir" I beg to lay on the fable English and Hindi versions ,of the following [l"laed in Library. See No. LT 3237/86] . Statements :-' Indian Eleetr icity (Third 'Amendment) (1 Statement showing action taken Rules, 1986. f by Government on the recom THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mendations contained in' Chapters DEPARTMENT OF' POWER IN THE· Y·and final replies in respect 'of MINISTRY OF ENERGY (SH~lMATI Chapter V,of 17lh Report (7th SUSHIl A ROHf AG 1): Sir, I ' beg to lay Lok Sabha) on Track Fittings. on the Table a copy each of the following (2) Statement showing action t(lken Notifications (Hindi and EngHsh versions) by Goven~ment on 'the rccom under sub-sect ion (3') of 'sec-tion 38 of the nH~ndations contain ill Chapters · Indian Electricity Act, 1910 :-- .. " 1 and final replies in respect of (1) The Indian, Electricity tlhird· Ciapter V of Sixty-second Report ·Atuendment) Rules, 1986 publi- . (7th Lok Sbaha) on Delhi Develop f shed in Notification No. G. S. R. n1ent Authority 528 tn Gazette of India datt:d the (3) Statement. showing acti()D taken ,19th July, 1986. by the Government on the recom The Indian EI ctricity (Second mendations . contained" in Chap Amendnlent) Rules, 1986 publi ters I and final replies in respect shed in Notification, No. G. S. H.. of Chapter V of 19"8 th Report 529 in Gazette of Iodja dn tcd l.he (7th Lok Snbha) on Delay in 19t~ ,July, 1986. dh-posal of Fired Cariiridge cases of High Calibre. [placed in l.ibrary. See No. LT 3238/86)J '~ '12.08 hrs. 12.07 brs, MATTERS UNDER RULE 317 MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABI-IA [Translation] [Engli3h] (0 Need to' link Ayodbya by rail with other big ciUes ~f tbe country h SECRE'T.AR Y I GENERAL : . Sir.. I ave to report t~e following message recei SHRI R. P. SUMAN (Akb(apur): ved from the Sccret..ary.. (3,enernI of Rajya Mr. Speaker, Sir, every year lakhs of Sabha :- pilgrims from' all O'l,er the country visit . 283 "?Jotters Under NOVEMBER, i 8; 1986 ' Matters tInder ~a4 , Rule 377 , Rule 377 . [~hri R. P. Suman} ;' (iii). Need ,t1> 'Look, i~to the ProblemS or tbe Dlspl~ced PersoDS ,in' RengaU aDd' ~yodhya, a famous religious place' in U·ttar Indravs.ti areas illj)rissa. Prade~h So a' very large unmber of tourists are always ,seen staying in this SHRI SRIBALLA¥. PA,NIGRA}"'U city. Ayodhya is specially important from (Deogarh): Sir, because of fa'ulty imple , the religious point of view. Foreign tourists mentation of the rehabilitatiori, policy in also often visit this place. ·B.ut' Ayodhya the Rengali a.nd the lndravati river valle,y is' being, totally neglected 'by the Deparl projects in Oriss3, a large number of rami ment of Ruilways. There is no 'direct lie.s of the. sUbnleTged areas are put to a railway link between' Ayodhya and oth.:r &n:at deal o~ hardship, . The Rengali Project major Cities 'while other religious places is nearing completion and the displaced have such facilities. I t is very necessary' p~oPle have already left their hearths and to provide railway' facilities to Ayodhya to 'homes. They are yet to be paid their connect it with other important cities of compensation in full. Further, some of the the country. There is a'so great need of resettled colonies built to house tlie dis constructing a railway bridge across river placed lack in basic facilities like drinking Saryu at Ayodhya. It should be constructed water, schools, roads, etc,' The land )e~:sed as early as possible keeping' in view the' ~)ut and said to be reclaim~d in rna ny pl({ces need and wishes of the local people. is' not at ali cult ivation-worthy. Instead Besides, in order to reduce the tl affic of of adoPting a uniform approach, enume- ' beavy 'vehicles, in' this city and to provide ration of families ~md fixation of compensa direct link between Allahabad and Basli, tion in many cases have been done Gorakhpur, a bridge. across river Saryu at arbitrarily. ..TIre reba biHtation colonies are not yet dcciayed ",revenue villages and as laQda~ka)wari Ghat in cast of AYvdhya, which has already been sanctioned, must such, regular dcv,elopment work of the Government and anti.povery schemes are be constructed as soon as possible, tSO that the people can get relief. no't being tu ken up in ~.hcse villages. [English] As a result of all this, serious resent .(il) Need to C'onnect Bhubaneshwar with ment Dud discontentll1ent are pre,vaiJing Vishakhapatnam, RairJur and Port alnong the displaced .population. What is Blair by Vayudoot Services. worse is the indifferent attitude of the authoritic3 tQ such situation in as much as SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MO:.IANTY the d~cisions taken at 'the ,high lcvci Rcngali (Pur i): Now, Vayudoot servic'e has been . Rehabilitation Advisory Comnlittee, which introduced. but some centres of Orissa ~ met ~n 26 .. 6- 86 after a gap of about three need to be linked with Vayudoot service. Years, are not yet given effect to. Bhubaneswar - Jeypore -:- Visakhapatnam (Andhra Pradesh', Bhub~neswar.Jharsuguda. I would, therefore, req~est the hone Raipur (Madhya Pradesh) and Bhubanes ~1ini5ter of Water Resources to,personally war, Konarak, Puri and Chilka are very ViEit the Rcngali and Ind~avati areus 809n essential to be connected Nitb Vayudoot to ~ee things for himself and take suitable Services to promote tourism and com· remedial measur.cs.,' . mercial growth of the State. These services will be comm e~cial1y. viable. (iv) Need to Exploit Varillus Places of Attraction in Kerala for Promotion of Another air service between Bhubanes Tourism: war and Port Blair, is verY much nee/ed. The passenger traffic will l?e adequate and PROF. K. V. THOMAS'(Ernakulam) : cargo movement b"tw~en Bhubaneswar and Sir, tourism is an 'industry that can be Port Blair therebY will be easier.' I am, deveJoped in Kcrala. Kcrala has got a therefore, urging upon the Minister of ,beautiful be~,ch 'on the western side. On Civil Aviatior'to in,troduce the, aforesaid t~c. eastern side, there arc \'he Western Vayudoot and air service for promoting Ghats having virgin forest. Tile plain land tourism and' commercial activities' in the in bclween the Ar.abian Sea and the W.estern· State. The State' of Orissa beiog a back... Gbat~ is the greenary of coconut trees and ward State, needs spc~.ial attention. paddy fields. Periyar: Bharatha Puzba and 285 Matters Unie,. KARTIKA 27, 190,8 (S~KA) , -Matters Under ' 286 Alle 377 Rule 377 '\ several othtr' rivers flow from east to w.est , . project has" not come up, powet shortage just like silver lines' passill~ through the aud shortage of water are be.ing felt conti. abdomen of the n-.c:)tb~r eanh. 'P.eriyar" wild nuously. , 'sanctuary, Ponmudi' and M unnar' are the 'very famour hin resorts. Kovalam 'is an i herefore, in order' to save Pll]ghat unforgettabJe beach. The back-waters of district fr.om severe shortages 0 f power and Cochin and Eraoganor can be'made ioto a water, the Central Govetnment should give tourist par~dise. Boating through the ever sanction to this project as quickly us flowing rivers of Kerara will be a new possible. , experience. KalhakaH, Mohaniyattam, OLtanthullal, Parizhamithukali and Kolkali, (English] and a number of other forms of arts are the cultural heritage of Kerala. I request the (vi) Need to Encourage Sugarcane cultiva Government to make uS.e of these ahraction$ tors by Giving Subsidy to Increase Suaarcane Cultbation to Save tbe" in KeraJa for the development of tourism. Sugar Mills in Kcrala. [ Translation) SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Maveli (v) Need to Give Sanction to the Kuriar kara) : The two sug~r factories in Kutt~·K¥rapara Mult.i-purpose Project Mahavelikara constituency namely Pandalum in Kerala. sUBar mills and Trancore sugar mil1s are at the verge of closure on account of non **SHRI V. S VIJAYARAGHAVAN availability of sugarcane. (Palgbat) : Sir, it is a l::>ng since the Kuriar" Kutty-Karapara multi-purpose project has The subsidiary product spirit also could been formulated. As 'preliminary steps, not be manufactur.ed as molases are not offices of the. engineering department and, available from Maharashtra an,d Karnataka. depots were set up at the 'project site. It was after this, that sanction for this project Now sugar::ane is being brought from was refused in the face of opposition from Rujapa}ayam '"Tanlil Nadu. the Central Electricity Authority, etc'. An amount of Rs. 4 trores has been spent Sugar cane cultivators should, be given a]ready. Now, the offices of the engineering' subsidY and should be en~ouragcd for bring "departments are slowly being shifted from this place. ing new area into cultivation. Reiaxation should be given for bringtna This project was formulated for power., molasses from Karnataka and Maharasbtra generation as well as irrigation and is very for these mills. essential for the survival of Ma]ab1r region,' particularly the Palghat di·strict. Everyone 12.16 hrs. knows a bout the. 'severe shortage of power DEPUTY.SPEAKER in the being felt in Kerala in general and thOe rMR. Chair.] Malabar region in particular. Whet:t -the I SHent Valley Project was given up, the (vii) Need to Implement,Recommendations Central Government had assured Kerala nf the Fourth Pay Commission jn • that an alternative project would be given Respect of .. Women Employees and reject Some Others. to it. That has Qot happened .sa' ..far. 1n Palgbat district, 'p~rticularlY in Kozhinja-' SHRIMATI OBETA MUKHERJEE - para and Kollengode, Chittoor taluq of (Panskura): The F~urth l'ay Commission this district, there is a 'serious shortage -of has made several recommendations regarding. drinking water. Water shortage has ~au8Cd . women' employees' in Central Government . serious damaBe to .the standing crops. This in Chapter 25 and also in Chapter 2'6. • project was formulated' with a view to finding a durable solution to the perennial The _ recotnmcr.d<io~ . for rel~"ation of shortage of water in this area. "Since, tbis tlge limit (Pat'a 25 4) for widows, divorcees. ------,-""--.....;_---_. .- - _'...... ---" ... ,'-~-,,- **The, speech was originally delivered in Malfalam. 21' Matters' Uttd,,.;' NOVEMBER 18. 1986 Matters U""" ,288 Rul,377 ,Rule J 77 .- ~ [Shrimati Oeeta Mukhtrjee] 3 year:s behUld Scheduled and it is not clear ~hether the Alumina' win be purchased and legal Jy stparated women for cntedng from the open, marked or not. Central Government employment upto the ,'D'ge of 3S years should be immediately The foundation of, this project was laid' implemented. . In this the women abandon by our late revered Prime Minister Smt. ed by their husbands (without formal Indira Gandhi.in March, 198 t at Daman divorce) must also be included. jori in Koraput . District (Or4ssa) which will have the Alumina {:omplex. Tht: foundation Recommendations with regard to cons f-or the Township and the Smelter where the tructing 'working wQmen hostels, (Para Alumina is to, be converted in Aluminium 2S.S) creches (P!lf'a 25.8) must also be was laid a year later by Shri N.D. '1 iwari at given immediate attention. Kulad near' Angul in Dhenkanal District (Orissa)'" where some 1100 families have But a recommendation made by Com already been uprooted. The assurances for mission (Para 26.2 in which snys, "we providing emplt'lyment to at least one recommend that in consonance. with the person per family of people thus uprooted national.. (>bject.ive of a small family. have not yet materialised. Neither is there maternity !eave nlay not 'be allowed to any rehabilitation plan, trainiog and up women employeess having two children". grad,ltion of skills plan for .the uprooted Though t also. subscribe to the idea of I>eJple to enable them to be eligible for and smal1 family, I believe that denial of mater get employment. GraduallY tbe employment nity leave to women who already (have two potentialities are being fi1Jed up and people children is punishing the women who alone coming from far allld wide and the uprooted do not control the family size. Therefore, people gnd the local people remain looking I urge that this recommendation be rejected. frustrated by sky-wards. I also urge· that recommendation in Para 26. 'Z iii should l?e accepted minps its stipu The situation has further wOf$ened by lation that these facilities should.. allowed the fact that the NALCO authorities are for two children. . pressing the State Government to acquire further land to widen the roads leading I may also draw the attention to from the smelter to the township ,ind this is another question regarding longer working likely to result in a large number of people hours, whirh ba ve been already accepted by becoming landless and homeless but without the Government. Many genuine I?roblenls a hope of getting a livelihood. The proposal are being faced by the women empl(Jyees for further, land acquisition should be for the extension of working hours. stopped and can only be consldered after all the evictee fa miUes have been provided I request that ihis question be recon with jobs in the factory. sidered particularly for women who have to bear a double burden of household jobs Now the Al\lmina and' Aluminium re and employment. search centres are being sought to be located at Nagpur., (~iii) Need to Draw up Rehabilitation Plan for the People Uprooted in, the NALCO Pro ject in Oriss~. I earnestly urge the Government to kindly review the sitution an.d exp1ore' the SaRI K. P'. SINGH DBO (Dhenkanal) ! • possibitity of setting up the research centres I wish to, draw Your kind attention to the for Alumina and Aluminium at Damanjori' fact that on 10.11.1986 the Government and Angul respectively so that they become have announced that the National the-centres and hub of industrial activities. Alunliniunl Company (~,ALCO) will go in This is alsO' in. consonanc~ with 'the Govern for trial production in early 1987 and ment's Industri~J Policy of locating I' large • the target of trial production for Alumina' scale mother industry/nucleus industries in has been fixed at 72,000 tonnes and for backward.area~ with a view to develop that A~uminium 8,000 tonnes. ,It has also been atea and l)'roviding emPloyment and reI! s.tn ted that NAl.CO is expected to be in moving resiopal' inequalities and ·im. fpll production, by 1988·89. lt is already balances, ' 289' INilrln Post Office KARTIKA ~7. 1908 (SAKA) [ndl(J" Post 0 l/ice 290 (Arndt.) Bill, 1986 (Amdt.) Bill, 1986 , . (ix) Need for an Early Construction of The Law Comm.,ission in their Thirty.ei,bth . Railway Over Bridge In Sonepat. report' hav~' suggested 29 changes' out of SURI DARAM 'PAL SINGH MALIK which 22 are major and 7 are minor. While making amendments in this Bill we bave (Sonepat): ,Sir, there is ~ level crossing which was constrbcted before Independence accepted more· or less all the important' recommendatipns which have been made in Sonepat opposite Hindu College in by the Law Commission. ' , ' Haryana. There are 80 many trains passing, through this crossing. M.ost of the time it remains closed. When this crossing was After Independence there bas been more con-structed there was verY littJe trJffic. Now i'ndustrialisation, 'urbanisation and modern t'here is a great rush of traffic at this l¢vel facilities both in the urban and rural areas. crossing as the traffic for Delhi-Panipat , So, we have tried to amend this Act in Rohtak and Gohana' has to pass through such a way that it suits the needs of today's this level crossing. There have been a mod:.:rn India.. number of fatal accidents at this level cros-' sing. Government has been requested on a Sir, many 'Members who have parti number of occas~ons to construct an o~er· cipated in the debate have referrred to the bridge on this crossing. various provisions of the Acf and have also made ,valuable suggestions but I find none I would, therefore, request the hon. of the members has 'pointed to the salient Railway Minister to take immediate steps featut'es of this amendment. for construction (If an over.. bridge on this railway crossing to avoid fatal acCidents SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: I have and to clear rush of traffic. done that; 1 ha~e only discussed the amend.. ments. 12.20 hrs. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV· I INDIAN POST QFFICE (AMENDMENT) would ,J ike to draw the attention of ·the hone Members that Section 4 of the Act BIlL~ 1986--CONTD. has been,tj.mended to provide for search of vehicles and premises of private couriers and [English] also, seizure and that is meant to protect MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : "The House the monopoly rights' of the Indian _post will now take up further considerati')D of offices. the following motion moved by Shri Sontosh Mohan Devon the 14th November, 1986. During the course of discussion, Shri namely : Kurup as also many other bon. ""Members mentioned that it seemed that the Govern "That. the BiB further to amend the ment had given up its right of exclusive Indian Post Office Act. 1898, be taken m?Dopoly of carrymg mail and why the into consideration." pnvate couriers were being encouraged. The correct position is that Government has THE MINISTER OF ,STATB IN THE never foregone its right of monopojy ot MINISTRY OF' COMMUNICATIONS carrying mail. But unfortunately, as the lSHRI SONTOSH, MOHAN ,DB¥): law stands today, we had 110 right to can.. Sir, sixteen bon. Members of this House du.ct searches and seizures or intercePt have participated in this debate on the prl~ate couriers without going to the Indian Post Office (Amendment) BIU. ;By exi~tjnl law of the country. Now, an this and"'larae, all the Members have- supported amending Bill, we have provided certain the Bill excepting a few Members from the ' clauses by which if we apprehend tbe opposition who have pointed out their private couriers are affecting the m~noPolY apprehensions 'in tegard to certain Sections of the Government and tbey are carryinl 'of the Bin. indiv'idua) ~ail we' can intercept that. , . EV,en ,under the existing provisions, for Sir, this Act wbich" is about 88 years your information". twenty-eigbt cases were old was' 'oYer-duo fat vadous amendments, launcbed asainst the private courjer~, and . " 291 India" PDst Ol/ice Indian POll Office 292 (Arndt.) Bill. 1~36 (Arndt.) Bill, i986 ~ [Shri SOr.:l ~b Mohan Dev). the Postal Department with its network is. cap'able of living good service to 'tbe consu the police investigation is going ·on .~lmost mers. We sball continue to d~ so and we 'in every casco The police have also prose .. shall take all efforts to see that our mono . cuted twelve parties in. tbe court of law. poly in these services is not -ed~ded by other. Now , that tbis Act .is being amended,. it. means. ·will allow the postal officials of certain categories to enter their prem)ses and to One particular point which has aBita ted verify whether the courier is taking the the minds of the Opposition and even lome permitted man or not. The monopoly of of the fuling party members is regarding the Government is only in respect of mail Section. 26 - They tried to draw the attention of certain categorie"; documents of certain of the Government that Section 26 by categories caD be carried by the private which we have a right to jntercrpt any oouriers. .\t present, we cannot open a letter to ,mail t should not be u~d in such a niail bag, we cannot enter any premises~ man,ner that individuals or organisations But now, as said, We have provided in this including the politica} parties are' put to amending BiH for conducting searches in difficulties. They s3id. that mail should not any permises I assure the bon. Members be intercepted. Here, I would like to give· that all possible care will we taken to check the background in detail. Section 26 of any abuse; they do not the carry mail tbe Indian Postal Act, 1898 a8 it stands . which they are not entitled to, ~nd there is today, reads as follows: no bad reflection of the postal services. "Section 26 (1 ). On the occurrenee However, keeping in mind tbat the of any public emergency, OD" in the public are' interested to baye faster service interest public safety tranquillity, and are wining to pay for that. we have of or the Central. Government, or a State started, as YOU kno\v, in certain metro· Government or' any officer specially politan cities; speed mail service, which has authorised in the behalf by the Central been 'xtended to more arcas from the 1 Sth or the State Government, may ~ by or'der of this month. in writing, direct tba t any postal article or class ~r description of postal articles .., Further, we have provided in this in course of transmission by post shall amending BiU for rule traming powet of the be'intercepted or detained, or shall be' Government for such ~peed J;l1ail service in disposed of in suCh ,manner as the autho future also. I am sure, the Department will rity issuing the order may direct." take immediate steps so that we ~a~ exter.d our speed mail service to other towns and . areas in the countrY in the near future. The existing law, as per Section 26 (2) • is as follows: The courier mail service which has been in vogue in the country has drawn attention "If any doubt arises to the existence of, the 'Government and while amending this of a publ ic emergency, or· as ~o whether Act we have tak~n care to see tbat the any act done under sub- section (1) was mo~opoly of the Government is not in the interest. of the public. sa fety or affected. tranquillity, a certificate of the Cental 'Government or, as the case may be, of tbe State Government shaH be concIu: During the debate, Shri Shahab.u4din, she proof on the point." an hon. Member of the Janta Party has argued tba t the Government should not Accorc!ing to law· as it stan~s td'day, have the excJusive right of transhipment even if any officer of the Central or State or· the mail from one part of the country Government intercepts a particuhr mail of ,to the other. a particular individual or organisation and ~f the persoo' who has done so, gives his Some of the hon. nlcmbers stated that . explan~tion as to why he bas done it, then Government should have the exclusive right. his interception cannot be cballanged in the 56 far as we are co.ncerned, we think tha t Court of Law. Now, this particular Pto- 293 inilian Post Office, Indit.n Post Office 2g4 (.4,nd,..) Bill, 1986 (Amdt.) Bill, 1986 vislan, in 'the law w~s subject to., criticism SHJtI SONTOSH MOHAN DBV : If a because it· was framed during the British situation arises were a group of people or time. Here in this P,arliamen.t, one hon •. a political patty tr~es to indulge in creating member of the Opposition, who.is now communal disharmony or terrorist activities, member of the Rajya Slbh, Shri -Atal Bchari I think, all the Members will agree with ·U8, VajpaYec, brought a Private Members' Bill that irrespective of the ism of the party, the in this House in July 1982. During the Government should be firm and take action. discussion, ' the then Minister, the Jate But under no circumstance, the Govern lamented C.M, Stephen assured the House ment is going to interfere in the normal that this particular clau~e would be restruc working of any political party of any tured in such a manner that not only the individual. order of the Government regarding inter ception of any mail woult! be a subject Sir, some Members have pointed out matter of judicial judgement, but he also that, why Qovernment is not taking steps, agreed that it would be brought in con regarding the expansiOn of Post Offices in formity with Article 19 of, the Constitution rural areas 1 In this casc-, I would suggest of I"dia. The Law Commission' also in to the Members that it is a fact .that Savoor their 3 S th 'Report reco~men~ed that either Gommittee has submitted a report, and it is a s~parate clause should be inserted in the still under the examination of the Govern law, "hereby it should be brought in con ment. We are baving dialogues with the formity with Section t 9 (2) of the various trade unions. We have not taken. Constitution, or it should be restructured. any decision. Most of the Members of In our present Bill, which has been this HOLlse·both from the ruling party as introduced before the House, instead of well as from the Opposition ha ve raised their having a separate clause, we have restruc voice that the rural post offices or extra: tured the whole Section 26, whereby the Departmental Post Offices should not fundamental rights and its restrictions given be, abolished. Rather it should be streng. by Section 19 (1) and (2) have been insert thened. We have taken this information ed in the Bill. Thereby we have not done and the suggest~ons of the Members with . anything contrary to the Cotlstilution of . right earnestness and we shall keep it in India. ,Not only that. When Sbri Stephen mind. Some Members have pointed out replied, be, assured Shri Vajpayee that the that what st.cps the Government ...•••· present law, that is Section 26 (2) by which, Governrnept's action was not challengable SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY : in the Court of Law win"be deleted. I may With r.cgard to the opening of the new tell the ,hone merpbers that in, th~e present postal offices in the rural areas, every Bill;, \ye have deleted that particular clau5e. time ...... Hence I believe that the hone members should not have any ~pprehension that SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV': I Governnlent is going to misuse this. parti. will come to that. I will answer that. cular clause. And I fail to understand why Please take· your seat. there is an apprehension in the minds of many members of the various national parties that Government, is going to inter Sir, certain Members like Sbri Girdhari cept their mail. I do, not think tha·t they Lal Vyas" Sbri Kurup, as, w~ll as other MC(mbers, have pointed out,' about the· are involving themselves in any' act~vity which is contrary to the national security amount of defalcations which are taking and the integrity of the country. We do -place in money orders and what steps the Government ha ve taken regarding this 2 not think so" Why are they. ~o much afraid of it 1 . We are not interested~ .. Sir, the Money orders booked every SHRI SURESH KURUP: We are, year are of th [Sbri S~ntosb Mohan Dev] the mail'in tbe ' gates, where thete will be PQst boxes by the recipients· ;and thereby then jt ahould not occ~r. I "w~n't agree. we will be able to render ser~ces.1 Api.o. it has been asked that what steps \lie Government bave taken "against the '·Tile franking machine \\-wch' is widely. erriol Gfticials '1 used by various commercial firms and individuals. we have not only encouraged The st-aUstics which I have with me is the use of the frank iog machinery, but we for 1983-84. 4 Group 'B' Officers. 9172 . bav.! also taken a right to giv~ some conce Oro~p 'e' Officers and 911 Oro~p .1>'. ssions under our rule power capacity.- . We Officers, who were either punished for direct have also introduceJ a system whereby [JoW involvement or for contributory negligence. these undelivered letters' ·which are· kept in Out of them, 366 J were removed or dimis one particular office of the PMG, win be sed and 81 were compulsorily retired. So, decen.tralised so that We can diSpose of this is a continonu& process. We do take these letters more prompt1y. Now, as per drastic steps against the erring ()fficials, ru.les. when you deliver a Jetter, value pay whether. it is money order or Insurance or able artic1e, if I fail to collect the nloney any other negligence. from the recipjent, I wiJl . npt be responsi.· bJe to 'pay money to the sender. put in this Sir, I do Dot like to go into the details Act, we have provided that even if . the of the other clauses because there are about money has not been collected through the 1 or 8 Amendments, during which the mistake of the Post" man, we shall first pay Members will speak and theo 1 will answer. th,e money to the sender and tht!o we sball recover the money. So, whatever" was told Before, I conclude, I would like to urge in the past~ as far as practicable, we have upon the Members of this House that the tried fo bring this rule, as per the Act. Postal Dep(irtments of this country are one With these words, I request the hone mem. of the biggest Departmen~ a'nd we' are trying bers to support "the Bill. • our best to serve our people. We do· know our shortcomings. We cannot assure over.. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE night that we will be able to overcome it. Are you happy with the situation ? But because of the volume of work that has been 'taken by us, it is fact that, certain tim'es, letters in certain areas are delivered S}[RI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : No. in a very slow speed, and that always You See one cannot say I urn happy; I become an issue of criticism or publicity in cannot say I am unhappy. But I feeJ the the papers. responsibility which has been given to me • des_~rves a lot of improvement; and with the Sir, we have gote in the country abqut belp and advice of the hon. members, which 1,44,060 Post Offices-in rural areas.. it is I am always open to, with the emplo),ees of 1,28,330 and in urban areas, it is 15,747. the Postal and Telecommunications Depart. ment from whom I expect that I will aet These po~t offices are mostly carrying t ota) cooperation, we win be able to 1,198 crotes of pieces of mail annually. improve it. Let us hope for that. We are also taking money orders about 1,288 lakhs in number, and the amount .(Interruptions) involved is ·Rs. 1.301 crores. You will certainly· appreciate that the ·volume" of SHRl SOMNATH CHATTERJEE wotk which is being, taken by the Postal The hike point, he has not answered at al1. , Department, there is bound to be some He can answer that keeping in mind that he lapses here and there; but that should not has to keep his job and all that. be considered as a standard of the P()stal .Department. ·SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: So far as hike is concerned, since if is not In order to give better services, we have , within the purview of the Bill, I will not brought in a certain clause by which multi answer it. With ~hese words, I request \pe atorcyed buUdinl. will be able to deliver hone ~emb'rs to .support the Bill. , • t 297 indi.)n POtt Office KARTIKt\ 2.7" 1908 (SA·KA) Intil",. POI' Office 298 (Amdl.. ) BUI, 1986 (Arndt.) BiU 1986 .' ' M~. DEPUTY SPBAKBR: The' 'lues. UThat Clause 3 stand part of the tion is : Bill. " "That -the Bill futher to am,end The motion WQS adopted. the Indian Post Office Act, 1898, be Clause 3 was 'added to th~ Bill., takell into ~onsidera tiOD'. " The motion WQS adodted MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now we come to Clause 4. Tber~ are two amend- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House. ,ments one by Shri Shantaram Naik and t!le other 'by Shri K. Rama chandra Reddy. now shall take up, clause-by-clause consideration.of the Bnl~ Clouse 4 (Amendment of Section 3) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER': CJaus,e 2. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji): Ther~ are amendments to Clause ~. The no I' beg to move question is : Page 2, line 28, - "That Clause 2 stand part of the Bil'." add at the end- ,The motion WQS adopted. 'and after clause (c), the following proviso shall be inserted, nameJy :- Clause 2 was added to the Bill. "Provided that no postal article C/~use 3 (Amendment of Section 2) deposited in such letter box, shall be SH.RI , Bf\SUDEB ACHARIA deemed to have been delivered to the (Bankura) : I beg to move :- a~dressee unless such Jatter box was Jocked at the time of depositing of Page 1 postal article and also, no posfal article which cnnnot be safely and convenie Omit lines 14 to 18. (16) ntly deposited in a Jetter box on account or' the sioze or volume of the article My amendment is that these three Hnes or otherwise, shall be deemed to have I should be omitted. 1 hope that the Minister been delivered to the addressee." (1) will accept my amendment. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY SHRI SONTOSl-I MOHAN DEV : We (Hindupur) : I beg to move- have already taken care about these points. We are just trying, to frame'it in a different Page 2, line 27. - manner. I say that it is not ~cceptable to me. ofler "bouseu in.~ert___" MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER :. I shall now "or at the gate or on the ground put the amendment mov'ed by Shri Hasudeb floor in case of m~lti·storeyed buil Acharia to the vote of the House.' ding". (5) The question is : 'SHRI SHANTARAM NArK If a Page 1, - postman takes a letter and places it, in a tetter box. it is deemed to have been d_cJi .. omite line 14 to' 18. yer~t that is all right. But t'he question is, gome _times :the 'Jetter which has to be , Ame,.dment No. 16 was negatived delivered . may be a biS packet 01 it may not be accommodated in a lctter box .. . MR. DEPU'rY SPEAKER : The ques Therefore, I have moved it clear cut amend. olton is : ment 'which says. that " 2~) i"Jia,. Post 'ojfic, indian Post Ojf;ce 306 (Amth.) Bill, 1986 (Amdt.) Bill, ].986' [Sbri Santaram Naik) As regards the point raised by Mr. Reddy, delivery of letters in the gate, haa' "Pro.vided that no postal article been done because in some multi-storeyed. deposited in such, letter box, shall be buildings, the" J)eopel who are living there deemed to have been delivered t6 the are in the h.abit of having pet animals like addressee; unless such letter box was dogs and sometimes, it becomes difficult locked .....• " and so on: for the postman" to enter into certain flats. That is. why we have . said that post boxes . Por instance court, papers may tOnle, which are s1lPPosed to be there, should be 'The' postman nlay just drop the court there on the gate.' We have also given papers in letter box which is unlocked and option that if individuals think' that they it is deemed to bave been delivered. What have g·ot more delivery of letters, they .can ~appen s then '1 bire post box in post offices for delivery of. letters•. And the point which Mr. Reddy SHRI K. ·RAMACHANDRA REDDY: has said can be taken care of under the As far' as Clause 4 is concerned, the existing laws. Well. can assure You that Government is trying to give a comprehe wh,en we identify the pl~ce where the postal nsive definition. Now in i'bis Caluse 4 box will be installed by tbe ind1viduals, they .say that an attiele may be placed in" there win be discussi.on ~lj(h the owners' of a letter box kept at the house. When you fiats ·and the posta) departntent and no~bi.ng want to make the definition' comprehensive win be done by which the ~ecepient gets . th~ word 'bouse' has to be defined or nlade difficulty.· 1 assure.. you th~t care ~ill be clear. Now~ thtre are houses which have taken. got three or four storeys and the Postman cannot be asked to gor up and deliver' the SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: 'I seek 111' letters. If there is a post box in the ground leave of the House to withdraw my Amend .. floor the postman can put the letters" in ment. them., If there arc multi·storeyed fiats, where can the post box be kept? It can be MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Has Mr. kept in the loWer part of the' House or in Shanlaram Naik Jeave of the House'to with multi.storeyed buildings on the' first floor draw his amendment "/ or on the ground floor. I want the hon. Minister to define this word "house" and . make it more comprehensive. SEYERAL HON MEMBERS: Yes SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : It is Amendment' No. 1 was, by leave, , withdraw clear that the post box will be kept in the grounds floor, Certainly, in multi.,.storeyed MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now. I buildings the postman cannot deliver them shall put the amendment moved by Shri K. from flat to flat especially if there are Ramachandra Reddy to clause 4 to the of nine or ten or twelve storeys. The idea is to the House. ba ve a letter box in which the postwan can post the letters and the delivery is effected Tha~ is what he has pointed out. It is Admtndme"t N(). .5 was put expected that each multi.storeyed building and negatived wi it have it 8 own security arrangements and we cannot take Itsponsibility of locking or MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question unlockinl. is : , "That clause 4 fHand part of the On the other point he is very much right. Bill." Whne makinl rules we shall take care that thos~ partic'ular itenls which cann~t go The motion was adopted. idside the letter box, they have to be deli- ,vercd to the individual in the respective Clouse " was added to the Bill. place. I assure 'you that care will be taken to delivered those articlts. Clause 5' was added to the ·BIll. '. 301 Indian PO$t Office KARTIKA 2', t 908 Clause 6", (In sectilln or ~ew MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : The s'ectlon 4 A) q,uestion is : . , SHRI BASUDEB ACHAR.IA : 1 beg IfTha t clasue 6 stand part of the Bill" t() move ~ The motion was adopted. Page 3. lines 4 and 5, - Clause 6 was added to the Bill for "by the Central Government by general or special order" Clause 7 was added to the Bill. substitute "by the order of a court. not Clause B (Amentlment of Sectio" 8) .lower· than t~e High Court" (1'7) SHRI K. ItAMACHANDRA REDDY : Sir t I beg to move • In section 6 a new section is to be added. It says: Page 3,- "Any officer authorised by the Cen omit lines 28 to 31,: (6) tral Government ~y genera 1 or special order may, if he. has reason to believe that any package containing letters MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: 8hri of the nafuare referred to in sub·section Za ina) Abedin-Absent. P) of section 4 is, or any such letters are, in any vehic1e ••• SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY. : Sir, as far. as the' express delivery is ~ I want to replace these words concerned. a fee is levied. I will read oot "authorised by the Central Government by the present lines un'der clause B(b) ': genen~l or special order" by ~'by the order of a court not lower than the High Court" In Qrder to check misu~e of these provi "(b) in claus" (d), for the words sions, or postal artic1es, orders must be 'charged for the ""express deJivery" of obtaing from' the High Court. postal articles, the words "charged for such service in relation to the. delivery of any postal article as may be) SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: The specified" shall be substituted ;'.' hone Member seem's to have no idea how the Higb Court is moved. If for eactl and everY inspection I have to go to the High This amendment appears to be very Court or the District Jildge Court, think the vary vague. 1 am not able to understand Government will not be able to function. what is the purpose of this amendment. So, it is not accet)table to u~. But you-" Previously for express delivery .it was very may reet assured that the 'idea 'is to stop' very clear. It was clothed in terms which leakage of revenue in various forms of were not at all ambiguous. It said; "pres the Government. Why should it be' cribe - the fees to be chargfd for the misused ~ Have faith in ·out 'officers . and "exprf S8 delivery". of postal articles, in staff and it will no the misused in any way. addition to,. or instead of, ony otber So, it is very d.ifficut to accept this amend. posta&e chargeable thereon under this Act." mente So, in the original Act the words are very very definite. There is no ambiguity. MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER.: Now, I' Instead of this, the Gove~nment is now shall put the amendment .·moved by Shri . trying to bring in some phrases and word. Basudeb Acbar1a to clause 6 .. 'wnich do not give uny meaning, which are highly' ambiguous. So, 1 relue~t , tbe Minister ,to wilhdn~w these words and Amendment No. 17 WQS I put and . negatived. allow th~ ori,h uI Act to stand al,·jt is, " 3,03 1""1"" Posl Offiee ltu1lG" PfI,bOflk, j 04 Y",dr.) :BIll, 1986 · (Arndt.)'. Bill, .19&6 SHRI SQNTOSH MOHAN 'DBV : .Sir, SHRI K. RAMACHANOR" RBDD'i ! there is no ambiguity in- ,the rule; rather Sir, as ·far as thisamendment is concerned, it is very specific. The 'express delivery the Government wants to reserye powers Iyst-em which was in \,ogue has" been for hou so sear~h. For house leareh they withdrawn. The idea of having this rule have added a proviso tbat while going for is to start another speedier service which house selrch, the officer must ,live a notice I have stated durins the reply .. speed-post ... in writinl"bf his intention to do so to the and that gives a wider scope' to Govern occupior of such premises. When you· 10 ment to live better seryice in 'future by for the house search. I do not, see any 'introducing more speedier servic;>e of various purpose in your giving!1 notice Tho} very types which 'may come in future. So, 1 p~rpose for which you are going to have cannot accept the amendmen' moved by the bouse searched will be defeated, That the bon. Member~ is why I re·quest the Government to remo~e that amendment and substitute: "foJlow the procedure for searches as provided for 'MR. :QEP~TY SPBAJ{ER: The in the.Criminal Procedure Code 1974". questior. b : Th.is ·win be usefnl Dot only for the man who goes for search but also useful for the person whose house is to be sea~ched. So, r request the,Government to adopt omit lines 2.8 to 3 1. this amendment as far as clause 1 3 is Amendment No 6 negatived. concerned. ,SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : Sir, MR. DBPUTY SPEAKER: There is the Criminal Procedure Code Provides no amendment to clauses 9 to 12... There that '!he person who goes for searcb, will fore, 1 .put clauses 8 to 12 to tbe vote of' go wlth a .search warrant. Here we are the House. The question is : going with a notice. That is the only difference. That is what the hop. Member "That' clauses 8 to 12 stand part of is asking for. This has been provided as the Bill." per tbe advice of the Law Ministry because in certain hauses there may be fanlily members staYing in the sam~ premises The mtJllioll 'was adopted, where printing machines are being used. Clauses 8 to 12 were added to the So, a nOjice shou'd be given so that the dill. ' man gets notice. But it will not' go in ad,'ance. The man who win 10 to search . the premises, the notice will go along Clause 13 (Insertion of new sections with him and ,it will be served. If any '16(A)] family members are tbere or any privacy is there, be will tak-e care of that. • So, SHRI K.. RAMACHANDRA REDDY :' what ,he has said is also there because Si~, I beg to move: instead of search warrant, we are introduc ing notlce. So, there by bis idea is . alreadY Page 4, lines 37 and 38,- beina imp lemented. . for ~'give anotice in writinl of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: , The his iQtention to do so to' the question is : octupier of such p!'emises.·' Page 4. lines, 37 and 38."_:' substitute. (, fO,llow the procedure for searches as provided fot' in f~r "~ive a. notice in writinl of tbe Criminal procedure Code hls Intention to do so to the 1974." (7) occupier of such premises." , . ' ,ub~titute "follow the ""'0 d . ~ ~. ce ure MR. DEPUTY SPBA'K:ER: : Shri Mool . lor ~earches as provided for' h Chand, Dafa-Absent., . . C i · 1 P' JD t e \f,;',", r mlDJl roceQUJIe COde 19"'4. t! • ~OJ 1IfIIIb 1'tJsI tJ~ 'Ind." PtJ,t O/llc. !Of (.AtlUlt.) ilil', "986 ,(A~dt.,,)·.Bll'. 1986 ,I Am'fldme,,' No.7 WOI ""a,lived. SHaI K. R~MACIIANDRA llBDDY : ~ I bave liveD ameDdment to Clause 14(1).' 'Mil. DEPUTY SPEAKBR. : The ques- '~14(f) provides, a man posts a Dumber o' tion is : .1. .Ietter' ,aay five or, ten. Some sartla, arraD,ement is to' ~ made~ It il aU rilht~ "That clause 13 stand part of the BiI~." . He is in control of a Dumber of letters he , posts. n. '"", .." W4I, .do,t.d. Clause 13', was added to the Bill. '14(g)-whcn a man receives a eortaiQ number of ,letters, say Iqore than tcn, tDc; Claw, 14 (Amendmen' 01 s,etlon 2 J) they say these cannot be delivered at tbI house. He must fi~ up a letter box at tlJa' SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK:', Sir, I post office. When I receive ,teo letters Of beg to move: a certain number of letters, ,it is Dot under my control. One day I may ,receive. tbe Page S '--: 0) line 21, Ol1lil "(a)" . other day I ma¥ not receive. SQ, enfot~ me to have a letter box fixed at ,a.".f,OI$ (ii) omit lines 32 to 34. (2) office is very . frivolous. Everybody 'will have -to get a Jetter box fixed' at tbe pott Pale ~,- line 2,7, - office whosoever gets a Dumber of lett~ Very rarely I may receive a number ot alter ('installed" ,Insert- letters. You win be compelling IV,", individual. to have, a letter box at. the '''''';''' , "bY tbe P~t Master Genreral" (3) office. That is why I have asked for . SHRI K.. RAMACHANDRA REDDY:· deletion of clause (g). . Pag~f;·S.- SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: I wish I cO,uld agree to the proposal giveD ()mit lines 11 to 1 S •.~ 8) by Shri Naik. ~ut it is a very exPensive one~ To keep letter b'ox "is left to tbe SHRI SHANT'ARAM NAIK: Sir, I discretion of the addressee and not enforce.. have already said that keeping ('f let~er box able by us. Just at the mOlnent Wh4'D you in multi.storeyed bul!dinSs is a welcome are opposing the like of tariff, and you ar.• thing. But the question is \Vqo .h~uld tryins to p'usb more expenses on our provide tbis letter box. ,ahoulder, it will oot be possiQ,le. RC8arcJiJJ. the point raised by Shri K. Ramacbandra 13.00 bra. Reddy about fixing up a Jetter box. tetter box in post oftke is one of tbe' alternativea. Now it is the duty of the postal , i He can have letter box at his own relidence. authorities to deliver letter OD the basis of Those who have lot, volume of potu.. l ~ai1, made by payment that is virtue of stamps they generally prefer. Those wbo bay. affixed ,thercQn. Thc,refor,e, o'bvioualy, letter boX. they can afford to' send people are since you restricting cert.iD tbinll, it . to collect Jetters.- Mainly wealthy people is also part of the duty of t.he postal OJ' business' people' do so.' So, . the authority to provide letter box.. Besides, suggestion .given by the Member is not you are already hi,kina the postal rate•• accepted. I think, we wiU bo payin8 within eight days, whatever, stamps we in., bave beea SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA RBQDY: using, you will be able to provide me two You read tho Soction correctly- letter boxes with the. same expenses that' we incur. So, iJl .U9~ circumstances, l' U(g) provide that the delivery of postal have moved an amendment to say after the 'articles to an addres.ee receivbsl 0)018 words 'Jetter d,cpOeit- box installed' the, than such number of postal artiel"" words " by. the l'ost' Master General", , may be specified thetein from a ,o,t should be inserted, and the spC~ific office shall be made only tbroulh a provision which requires owner or oocupier post boa reoted' by him.t tbat pOll to provide lett.cr ,bOJ abouJd be deleted. omoe." t )0" ' .....PO.' ,O/fi- ',lIIIJll~"'" (#Ii" 30,S . .' . .~Amdt) Bill: 19.6 (A,mdt.)' "ll. 1986 .'" ,41,. , ; , .8S.1 SONTOSR MOHAN DEV ' ~ Will\! '.)'·OU ~ .),iIl, is ,abou~ tbe .._eadqn of 'etterl. The point which' , lOU _c ,a)'ina-teD, tlfteen letters. We .~1 Dot specify. We will judae' what wilt , lor '·sent". 8I1b~tltute- ~q ,'" ~lur.ne' for a particular' perlon, thoo we will bave calculation by us. That "'received by either the, addr'esaee ia why we have not at the mom6Dt or sender of the ar~ic',e ... '( 9) .ecified iiow many letters abould be tbe milllmum w.o have not specified. Your .,oklt will be taken into consideration 10 Some letters are posted=which do not tiat for a aman Dumber of letters one need conform to the rules. Those Jetten can be 8o~ bave a 'Jetter bOx at the post oBlee. seized. tbey can be destroye8. It bas been That is your main point. mtntioned-notice is to be aiven to. the addressee. SHRIK.RAMACHANDRA'RBDDY! Cl.me 1'4(1) say at the post office and n~t It is mentioned : at ~lt~~)~'Jie. " ••. and' the article. sball not be :saiu SHANTARAM N~lK: I witb ... destroyed until after expiry of ODe draw my ~mendruent' to claule 14 , J month from tbe date on wbich the last of such notices is sent". , ... ,. MR •.DBPuTy SPBAKBR.: Is it the jdilaure of the H()uae tbat the amendments . I want this word "sent" to be replaced Gloved by,' 'Shri Sbantaram' !-taUt be witb .. by "received 'by either the addressee or drawn" , sender of the article." When letter hal to ~SEVER.AL RON. MEMBERS; Yes. be destroyed, you agree that 'he notice has to be liven to the sender or the addressee. Ameiidmel,ts NDS ) Qnd 3 were, b~ But you do not know whether the sender Leave, withdrawn. or addressee hal received the ·Jctter~ and th~n sends any objection or cJ~im. And MR. DEPUTY SPEAK~R: 1 put tbe postal authority win simply say. a amendment No. 8 Jlloved by Sbri K. leUtr is soot and therefore, this article can aasnacbandra J1.eddy to the vote of tbe be destroyed. ln~. order to obviate this HOUle. miscbief, when you post a letter, you must wait for ODe month. until after expiry of Amendment No. B WQ $ ,lJt Gnd one month from t'he d&te on which the N e,'J tlved. . letter is received by the lender or addressee. That is why, I lia"vo put tbis amendment. MR •. DEPUTY SPBAKER Tbe, question is : ' SHRI SONTGSH MOHAN DEV : It is not acceptable. "'-that' C'ause r 4 stand part of the " " BUr'. ' MIt. DEPutY-SPEAKER : I mall now put tbe amendment moved by Sltri The motion was adopted. K.. Ramachandra Reddy to clause 1 5 to ths vote of the HoUle. Cla.,t 14 "liS lidded' to t~ Bill. Amendment No. 9 ..,IIS put and , Nelatl,ed. ~B.. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Shri Mool ell.", Dap is Dot present. Sbri K. MR •. DEPUTY-SPEAKBR The RatDa~~~~a Reddy, ~re 'you moving. '. question is ,: " S~~I"~ RAMACIL\NDRA J.SDDY : ~'Tbat' clause 15 atan" part of tbe Yea, ' ' ' .. , Bill", ~tf9 WI." /t"st .tJlflc, :r, tAllTiK~ ~7 t 19·01,' (SAKA) ltuildtllDit O/J{c,' f i 6 t (Arndt.) Bill, 1986 (Amdt.) Bill, 1?86 'n.. motioll was .du'ted. SHRt SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : For every article which ia to be deJjver~ C'tlU,. 15 w41 add,d to tb, BIll. there are certain specific· instructions' and manncr. This was what was lackilll ,in tbe MR', ·DEPUTY .. SPEAKER .: Now., we rule. Even now. ' fo.r monty Qrder, thor, take claule 16. There are some amend .. , i 1 " standard time. This clause bal. beep menll. Shri Syed Sbabbuddin, SbrJ included to protect tb~ jnterests, of tlll Satyalopal Misra not present, consum.ers. not of the Department. It iJ becau6e unless you put it in' the rulea~ it Now, I he question is : be~omes difficult s'ometimea to do.' 'It~, ,happen in certain rural areas.' Aad .tbF "That clause ] 6 to 22 stand part manner wiJl 'come as an in~tructjoD' from of the Bill"., ,; the Department and the idea what You have in your mind, wili be protected, i The motion WQ.t adopted. alsure tbe hon. Member. ' C/auses'16 to 22, were added to Iht BtU. MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKeR : Are You withdrawing your amendmeD(~No. :1 ahall MR . DEPtJTY·SPEAKER : Now, we now put amendment No. 21 moved by go to clau~e 23. Sbri Mool Chand D~ga Shri Basudeb Acbaria to tho vote of (be not present. House. ," question is : rhe Amendment No. 21 WQS put aIId "That clause 23 stand part of the Negatived. Bill'" MR. DEPUTY.&PEAKER, : Tbe The motion was adopttd. question is : Clause' 23 was added to the Bill. "That c~use 24 to 26 stand part of the 'BiJI", Clause 24-11nsertion. of new ,eetlon 4JA) The motion .W4! adopted. MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER : Now, we Clause 24 to 26 were added to the Bill. gO to clause. 24. Shri Basudeb Acbaria. Clallse 27-( Insertioll of IIew Sect/on 47 A) SHRI BASUDEB ACUARIA (Bankura) : 1 beg to move : MR.. DEPUTY.SPEAKER : Now, WO shall 10 to cJause ·(t21. Shri Sbantaram Page 8, lines '10 and 11,- Naik. • omit ('and in sucb'manner"('21) SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK fPanaji): Sir, here it is Mentioned: I bea to move : Pale 8, line 29,- "Money·. orders sball be paid at sucb ." times and in such matlGer as the ddd at the end- Director General may, by order, from time to timet specify. H. • .. and ma)' also be punished witb an imprisunment .for a term whic:h If the manner of payment is chanled may .-be extended upto three frequently, then people will be 'put to a . months or with fine:"(4) IO.t of inconvenience. It is 'because .peopie will not be ,awar~ of' the manner by whic~ . 'My amendment is very simple. I,f .... y ~he money is to be paid to the' payee. That yalue-payablo article which it delivery is 1~ why, I put tbi, amendment. The manner refused" in· the sense, the person does oot which is now prevalent should coctiDue. pay back, when he bas to pay, what is the .t t ' I•• , Ills' .O/iie. D',clln."" j. :' i.cell' ';,1 i (Amdt.) Bill 198,6 Spurt til Terrtlrist Act/~ . '. vilies 1ft PlinJab and othet Parts of th, Country . tSbti Sanwam Naik] "That Clauses 2; to 39 stand part of !' .. the Bill.''' 'PtoViaio~ that ,you have made. It is only .:to recO'fer tbat amount, from him as The motion WlJS adopted. 'ltteatA of, land revenue. That means, you ~ill be .exhausting the .eneray of your Clause, 27 to. 99 were added to 'h~ Bill. 'otBcen to reccNer ,tbe amount from him. 6ft t l' have made s' provision for punish. Clouse 1, the Enacting FDr~lQ lI"d the menta If the person does not pay' the long TltI~', wer~ added to the Bill, '8tDOUDt which is due to _ t~e 'postal 'authority, beside8 recovering that I amount, SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : Sir, \te "Should be punished with some imprison" I be8 to move : ment or fine. • do not know whether the Minister is goinl to accept it or not. ' "That the BiU be passed .,' MN. DEPUTY·SPEAKER The SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : I ,-!uestion is: . wisb I could do tbat. But it will be too harsh .. our part. The previous rule, was that if "That the Bill be passed. n we failed to recover the· money t then we were rot liable-unless we recovered the The motion was adopted. ·money from the receiver. Under tbis Bill, irrespective of tbe fact whether we recover MR. DEPUTY.. SPEAKER : According the money or not, the Department will to our agenda, a discussion under Rule 1'93 pa, the' money to the sender and will is scheduled to be taken up at 2 0' Clock. recover 'the nloney from the receiver, if he Since we have taken more than ten minutes fails t~ pay as a~ arrear of land revenue" beyond 1 0' Clock. we will be reassembling Let U8 not assume tbat the person will not only at 2.1 S. We now adjourn for lunch pay. And if be fails to pay, other than as . and reassemble at 2.1S p, m. arrear of land revenue also, we have lot the standard ,law of the' country by which li14 hrs. we can prosecut e. So. it does not bar us · frOtn going for prosecution. ' The Lok SabhlJ then adjourned for. Lunch till Pi/teln minute, palt The idea whb which th~ hon. Me·mber Fourteen of the Clock. has liven his amendment is already there. ·But we are taking a . measure by which it will be easier, fer \1'8 to collect as an arrear The Lok Sab'ha relusembled 4ft'; of .Jand revenue 1 hope, the hOQ. Member Lunch' ot Nineteen Minutes pait will witbdraw bis amendment. Fourteen of 'he Clock. MR. DBPUTY.. SPBAKBR : Does the bon. Member want to withdraw his' amend [MR. SPEAKER i" 'h~ Chair.] ment? DISCUSSION RB : RECENT SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Yes, 1 SPURT IN TERRORIST ACTI want 10 withdraw my amendnlenl. VITIES IN PUNJAB AND otHeR PARTS "OF TtlE COUNTRY. MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : Has the bOa. Member leave of the, House to with... [Engli~'h] :"taw bi& amendment Of MR. SPEAKEK The House will now SEVBl(AL BON. MBMBERS: Yes. take up discussion under Rule 1.93. Bhatt~mji win speak. :A"''''dmenl No. 4 was. by leave. withdrqwn. . ' ''!II._ [Trlln.du tum].' MR..' DEPUTY.:SPEAKBR': The queltioa is : Shri Bhattam wi)) speak today. if A DiHUa,:lon i, : R~.,.t KAlTiu 21, t'108 '(S:kA) bllCll"'olI j. : Aecelft i 14 Spu,t.-in Ttr,'.rlst Aetl 'Sp"" in T,rlorlst 'Ac'f· 'Vttle, In P."jab aNI ' vltles In P"n}tib·'"u oth" PII,t, 0/ the other Parts of ,,,. COllnt,,' ., Country SKR,I C. MADAV REDDY dacoity. A bank bas been ro'bbed tooted. WUabad) : $ir.,You also intervene in the Innocent men and women have been massa 4ebate. cred Rl~rci1ess'y. Such type or' \hings ba,vI ,. " become 8 matter of dailY occurrence., It is ' SEVBRAL HON. MEMBERS : 'You just a norma) routine. ,Jt is a.' simple JI must say something in the beginninl. cutting brinjals and vegetable. 1n the , . kitchen. The.. c seems to be no end to it. . MR. SPEAKER : I ai'll busy today. I It is ever recuring. This is it very abastl" have to meet 'two foreign delegations. situation which we are not able to"Pu~ up Wben I am free, I shall come to the lIouse. with_ .Let me first say that tbis should end I t. should be put an, end to and it should SHRI BALWANT-' SINGH RAMOO stop. WALIA (Sangrur) : You m,ay kind'Jy'set Sir, you 'sometime back made an obser the tone of .the d iscussi on. vation tbat Punj:lb is grad)Jally tendin·. to MR. SPE_AKER : 1 don't think, there' become a varitable slaughter house. 1 am is any ,need to do so as all of you are tempted to think that this is coming true '''bow 'quito adept. day by day. Terrorism bas take1\. a very heavy toll of 'human life. There is no eod . to this ghastly spectacle. It was Bai~ [English] recently that there was a downward trend in I have f .. 1i faith that you will uphold the crime graph in Punjab. If that were the intelrity, the honour and the prestige true I wiIJ be more than happy but the pre. of this great country and not be misled by reports do ~o" give an indication that th~ ruffians. I told at Anand that there was rrfte(;ts the correct position. The State and one Sardar who created one unified India Centre should make concerted efforts to and, I hope, here is another Sardar who evolve an effective strategy aDd put a bait will kcc!p up that. Nobody on earth can, to this blood bath. .. divide it. The Minister for Honle Affairs has mor~ 1han once ann ounccd both on the Floor of SHRI'BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY the Hou,se and elsewhere that effective 8'nd (Visakhapatnam) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, your stringent 'steps are being taken to curb Initial .observations ho ve set the tQne of effectivelY terrorism. We win SlamI' tbem 'the discussion in the Hous'e and we stand out. We will crush them. The terrorists by that. - We stand by it. We are committ.. are on Ibe run. Terrorism is on the wane. ed to it.~ There 'can be no compronlise on We will leave no stone unturned to crush the question of unity and integrity of this tbem. This is the so]c'mn assurance given cou·ritry. We can not surrender it at any to. this House by the Home Minister. This cost whatsoever and we will have to fight is the theme o(his of repeated assertions all fissiparous tendeneics, divisive forces, made both in the House and elsewhere. But separatist forces and all forces w~ch want .. what is the aetial'situation. The people to de.. stabilise this country and dis-member are daily dying. The leaders' are beiDa ,this country. We are "one with the Govern- threatened and assassinations are beiDI 'ment on tbis matter,. We firmly support attempted.· . We "are witnessing all tbese them. The country cannot but be one and thiogs everyday. Therefore, I charge that it should be one. We fully agree aI!d the Minist r of Home Affairs has miserably endorse t,he view! and stand by whatever failed in containing 'terrorIsm. It is spread bas been said by you. ing its tentacles. It ,~growiol and increasing. , ... ' , S01ll~inl-e a se there was a report in which , Not a single day pas-ses without an ugly the Government' claimed that the terroris~s , or ahastly incid~nt occuriili in sonle part of were on the run; the hard core terrorists · Punjab. As we take up the newspaper ~ere being nabbed and eliminated a.nd the we see a couple of incidents everyday. . terrori&m was on the waoe. One wbo Some where there is a robbery. There is a believes in th'i, verslon Ih'es i' a fool's , " i i j bi"ellsio" Ie : A.u"t: ',~ilM;B!R.t'is. 10Bd ,,~" bbc"ision''ite : jtt~~t' , jll ~p"rt ,11f ,.Terrorl,t Actl Spart In Terro~IJt Acti- ,vltle, ',,, Ptmjab '.nd viti.; III ppic• • ftd 0,11" ParIs o!lh, other :Part, of ,h, ." CDuntry CDuntry [Ibri Bhat tam Srir.ma MUfti] the M'inister becaus,'e we carnot a6k l1im to place on the':: Table of the aoulC details of paradi'e. The rail Ie of bardcore terrorists the security measures which he wants to ta'lce ' il increasing· and, Illultiplyinl. .Amrlt pan is of the steps be is takinc to 'improve -the pininB momentum· amona Sikh youths. 10 security measures. tbe course of Jast about one year about '000 yo,uths are sa'id to have been baptised. . 14.28 hr•• ,'~ Not only tbat, the frontiers of tbe k ill in a field ,pte expandinl. There is a planned dis [MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER In .. III., pe... ,1 of bit men in Punjab. It is difficult Jo Chair.) foreet "be ahast1y assassination of on~ of ,our respected colleasues, Shri Lalit Makan May I in this connection point out as at bis residence in Delhi itself. So also far as Gen. Vaidya is conccJned that his Sbrf Arjun Oas and a host of otbers, Jet wIfe came forward with a statement which alono the transistor explosions. That much was an indictment of the Oovernme'nt for a.bout Delhi. ' · security lapst. N ~W, the Minister the other day on the floor of the House gave us 'Then, a terrorist was recently held at a differtnt account and went on saying that . Kocialkanal at the. rcsidcllce of an lAS the details of the secutity measures were officer. 'General Vaidyi' was kiJld in Pune. discussed and finalised in consultation with As' I said', earlier, the field of activities of Gen. Vaid)'a himself. That means what '1 t1errori.ts is fast 'eJtpanding. 00 td alone' Does he 'want to pit the deceased Oen. knows bow· mady are still there in the hit Vaidya 'against the version of his own survi. list. General Sunderji is there. Of COUlse, vina wJfe. Then, it is no lood. 'Is it the our Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi had way for of the Government to function? Do a providential eicape not becouse of the they discuss with the person concerned about, security and the Home Minister, but in the necessary or possible Sf eps which tbey spite of the security and the Home Minister bave to take with regard to their ow'll secu God bas saved him, God >, bas saved this rity. coun,tl'Y. If you cannot protect even tbe Prime M.inister, I would ask the Home A Here again, everybody knows that you . Minister whom else can you proteet. Are were not able to save Sant Longowal .. You you here , to give ·us the list and number of were Dot able to save General Valdya. casualties and explain the reasons for the After aU, these were the people who did security lapse and nothing more 1 their best for the country at the instance or Tbe morale of the po) ice is not high' in at the beh,est of the Oovernmept. Otneral spite or the valiant efforts of Rebeiro. The . Vaidya was knowl" to be on the hit.. 1ist police and security forces are getting divid .. already. But you could not save him. That cd on" commpnal lines. The attempt to beinl so, I would like to alk what is tbat murder Rebeiro in the PAP complex at tbis Oovernment can do· 'I If you carinot Jallandhar is a powerful reminder that ,the save t~ former Prime Min.ster, if you can "terrorists have their informants and· accomp. nct save Genera) Vaidya, if Mr. Rebeiro lices in the police ranks. Your security' was also subject to seVere predicam'!nt, if sYltem itself is in a shamble, it is in.a total even the present Prime Minister was subject mess. to an attempt of assault, tben should this ,,0 on 'I Should this continue 'I Every time, a ghastly inCIdent takes, place, ~o\ln comes a statement from the Sir, from time to time, we" ere aske.d Minister saying that they have reviewed the 'to support the Government. 'In every move situation, a high 1evel Committee has been of the Government,. \\,benever the Opposi let . up, theY are revamping the sccur,ity tion was, consulted, inVariably aU the system, something m.lre strinlent is goinl political parties irrespective of tbeir political to happ,en and going lO 'tak;" place. We affiliations, cutting across the political have to be saUstled with the observations of differences ,and barriers, extended an out '11 bl'CI.,.'OII'R'I: 'It'NI!I ~AllTfKA\2? ftO;~ '(SAKA) ,"l.t~u.',I()" R,: it'''~.II' ' '1. SPurt I,,' Te,ro""t Actl· Spurt' I" Tenorl't A,C"" ~iti,!, In PunJab' and ',iti,. In PUII/ob lind orll",Ptirts Df ,h, . other Part, ,0/ ,'_ COUlltr, . ;Country. , SUPI',ott 'to G'ovmlment of India. TheY Sin.b. 'the' atS81,4ins of Sbrimati lad_ IUI'Ported them in wllatever: legislation tba,t Q,andhi. They were 'treated as m~rtyr.'and they wanted to brinl about.-., There was a awards, were conferred' on tbe~ 1be spate of'legislations ,to' contain terrorism" widow of Beaat Singh was sp~.11, ~Jld to curb it. .In every respect, in all bonoured on tbat occasion. . What a ....t ' 'manner, at' every' stale we support them ~ational. shame ,for us. That lady-Mia; fully ... And quite a number of legislations Beant Sinah-calJed it a day of rejoiciOI. were pas~ed. What more do they want us 'She went to the extcl!-t' or.saYinl tbat "a to do '1 We have strebgihened their harids. blac~ mole was removed from our' foft. Power is given 'to tnem. Have these leiis- hedd." This is bow things are taklnl ..,iIjlations have further' strengthene4 you '1 pla-ce in Golden Temple, at Amrit88r. ,00 Were they of any aYaH "I ~ould you' use the top of this, tbe .dreaded terrodati':;_, tl}e power given to you? You could not about one dozen of them-who ca.rrled a usc that'1 Whal is the point in comiD, reward of one lakh OD their beads were all, before the House and asking for the support present on that occa'ion. In tbe fuU 11are of the Opposition Parties and tbe entire . of publicity ,'on tbe dias and infront 01 the House? Therefore, hj·~, is a failure of the host of securitymen, they were tbere. Government. Govt. were not able to dis- Nothing bas happened. NobodY ~ook action charge their duties and function effectivelY' against tbem. You cannot take action ,and to maintain law and order and safe- against them. With the entire Police force, guard the security of our country." with all your armed strength and miabty power, you declare aw:ud and ask somebody to catch them and produce before you. Is Sir. J'tt me revert back a little to the this is tbe way in which the Government il Punjab scenario. A vitr~oUc rampatlll is to function? Is it worth its salt? I am launched by Baba Joginder SiQgh. . In his Statement, 20 or 30 ,days agO, be has been so sony to repeatedly emphasise (~ejr di,- mal tailuse, Mr. Home Minister. pouring venom, preaching hatred and prea- ching armed rev61t against the Delh'i Finally. I ask the Home Minister do you Oarbar. He indulges in' seditious speeches want this issue to be treated as a State both against national leaders and als~ Subject or as a law and order Problem to against our nat iona) heroes. He goes on , . be dealt with by the S1ate Government ex to state that the Hindus of Punjab will one elusively ~i.th the assistance of the BSP and day be massacred at the hands of the Sikhs. para-military forces which, from time tQ He says that Khalistan commandos are time you go ott supplyinl to them '1 Or do awaiting this opportunity. But'the Gov.etn- you alree that thiS is a national i&6ue In ment treats this in a very casual mander. which you are yourself equally respoolible for Baba J()linder Singh is n?t even apprehend· maintenance of law and order and also ~d 01\ the count th~t. be IS an old man. Is.' wiping out from the face of Punjab, .~e nllt ~t the way to deal wIth such matter '1 Why trace of terrorism. If that is SOt your IS there DO concerted .at~empt, no'" full- failure, you will have to admit. yOU will fled.eel stra.telY to ret~lev~ the' state· from have to confess; you will hate to exlareu t~~ present Impasse '1 That IS what 1 would 'your regret and you improve your pertor. ltke to fran~IY allo ? '.mance in ais. difectio~. . Sir, on October '31 it at a time when N~W, " ,would Uke to ask that 8ometim. the whole country was <>bservinl the Deatb back. We wer~ told that this issue will W Anniversery of former Prime Minister., in tr,eated not merely as taw and order problem aU sQlemni~y' payhll' due bomase aJld res but· a political soluiioh to it will als,"btJ pect to -ber menlory, in .Amritsar within tbe, southt. Of course, Ja~er the Prilne Minietor' precincts of the Go'Jden Temple in tile came forward with a correction.. As lonl ~nji Saheb Hall a congreaation \Vas held as tbere are flshtin'g forces on tbe ot,htr.... side on tbe same day. . A Kba1istani Ba, was duly' wedded to the creed of violence and boiste~ tb.~re. Music was rendered eulOll. t"r od,m. w~ wUl not be able llave aoy sort aml'tbe bl11very of BeaDt. Sliaah '~d ktwarit of dialolue 'or 'discussion with tbem. So. 319 DI,au;d,,, I,': It",., NOVBM8BR.' 1&. ,1986 D'18tUlSto. II ,: l(,etJI' ! JI Spy" ill Terrorist Act i. Spurt III Tel'rorht dcti. vltie, lit PUlJja/J fJnd . vitles in Punjab Gild other Port" 01 ~hfl oth,,, Parts of the' Country Countl'.Y I '[lhrl Bhattam Sriram~ Mutti) you take the, initial steps in tb.is regard ? Wbat are the &tep which you have postivel)' apart frottl'dealing witb this situation on: a cont'emplated ill this regard 'l military balis or on a law 'and order basts, what else do "you want to do: how else do 'Now, I would' like to ,ay that, as the, Yad want to tackle tbis problem? Is there Speaker had pointed out in, the' beainnina, atty fresb strategy .? ' we are dedicated to democracy, ~oCiaUaOl and secularism., . These are the triplo .'- Sit. the Prime Minister recently exhC'rted concepts-goa)s and guiding principles for tho nation < and called for a peoples' move whiCh we are deeply committed and tbero ..ent. That is correct. Let all tbe peoplo is no going back on tbat; we are wedded~ ttBitC t join tOletber the' saner el~ments, to that. most of thom are there in abundance, bar .. rin. a few hard core sikhs-the CODverts Democracy and violence "cannot coexist. the lIC.t of' them afe there Therefore, yo~ The future of democracy lb~rerore is come and join them. Let there be a hanging in balance in Punjab." Either peoples' . movement. So, that was tho there is an end ,to tbe cult of violence 01' exertatien of the Prime Minister and I ,tbe process of democracy will reach a "dead a",reeiate that. end. Voless the creed of" violence and forces of disruption are vanquished, tbe So fat as, 1 remember" it is on'ly the rule of Ja wand th,e democratic form of Communist Party of India to whom, I must government cannot exist. congratu1ate fof' thit. Therefore, what IS at stake in Punjab? it is unsafe AN HON. MBMBBR : CPM ,It :8 democracy "itself, if in Punjab, what happen elsewhere? So, our 'stakes are very high. We have to protect SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA the concept of democracy, Now, people. MUR THY : CPI and CPM also. who were returned to power with popular mandate of the people, if their voice is PROF. N. G. RANG A: And tbose muzzled the representatives of the pe~p)e who have oraanised peace marches. cannot function'; and the guns roared; people are kij}ed~ plundered and murdered , SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA in the, broad day light. If atenlunB are M. UR. THY : thank you very much. Some used, where is the democracy? This is no 8t~ps were taken in Ibis direction. But· democracy; this is mobocracy; this is fina lIy what is the Pictnre that bas emerged. something worse. this j, something different The politicians and political leaders belong.. and it must be put to an ,cd. ina 'to various political parties cannot move about wiUlout police escort~ The Ministers , Se,culorism is the basis of unity of tbe are always surrounded by gun~en aU the country; it is a way of life of this touQtry. If ' time. How do you have to feed the rabid communications arid fundamentaH •• ptof'les' mnvement li~e this, when the situa invade citadet of secularism,. we cinnot tion is lite this? The days of Mahatma fail to ,resist this, we will have to reaJst Gandhi are lo"ne, when he rus~ to Nao.. this with all our stren,tb at .our command, khali in to th,e thick of tbe battle riskiA, the mountini attack on the concept" of his lire. 1bosc were tbe days of ~ahatma secularism should-be resisted and repelled. Gandhi and"'llot of Rajiv Gandhi, who, of The role of re lilion in tbe' atrairs of tbe cowse, can ao abroad a Dumber of times. State is assuminl_ undesirable and ,alarmin. It is a difficult for to go to Punjab•. hIm proportion and w~ have to 'con.tend with But I al80 do bot want him to do so the forcca of di$f'uptlOD and dettabilisauoD, .'because I want to him to be spared ror We cann'ot allow rellaioD to Sreed theirin many-many 100,8 years for this country. and , pour contempt. dias8ti.faction, How could tbere be a peoples' movement. discord, dHference and di6lensions amoDI 1 wan' to know from tbt Miniater' Could ~ .' tho peo,plc. We DlU&t 'aafeltlard tho 321 Discusslon'Re :, R.tceJlt. KA&TIKA" 21, t 908 "(SAKA) DlsCllfSlotl Re : heellt 3'22 Spur~ in Terrorist Acti- Spu,,,t .In Te,rorls" Acti- vities i,,' Punjab Illld vities in Punjab. and other Parts of the other Parts of the Country Country sanctity of the boly places. The places of co,untry know? Why not let the 'whole worshop nOw are· being ,used as sanctuaries world know ?,'They have not liven anY by the terrorists, as store,' houses for' reyly to ·your documented version and tbe keeping their armament and .Qeadly evidence adduced' by You so far. There il weap~ns to be used against the innocent no . response from them; nothing. 'Ibis people; and this should be stopped. game is continuously going on. Pakistan they are training the "', terrorists in- the use As the Speaker has earlier put it, lhe of revolvers. It is publisbed ~'croSlinl the unity and integrity of ~he country are on - border into Pakistan proses no major trial today. We cannot -survive as a nation problems." Most of the terrorists. who u,nlttss .we act as a naHon.· We shall were captured' said that they were -taken pledg: our t;upport to the government to ' to Faislabad jail where they \vcrc 6ubjecteti safeguard unity and integrity of this to intense indoctrina tion." They admitted. cou.try~ That they were trained in the use of 38 and 45 S revolvc!rs, Sten-guns and grenades, ObviouslY, thiS is' not merely 8 and said that they were instructed in the provincial issue; it is a national issue; it ' use of chemical weapons, how to btbw up ha's 'international implic~tions as well. bridges, how to open handcuffs and Various foreign force'l are also at work, manufacture home-made bombs. t, not merely Pakistan, but various o~her countries as well. What abo)lt Britain? This is what is being done across the What about Canada '1 What about border the Pak-occupied Kashmir involved the United States of Americ~? I in acts of terrorism and sab('tag~. There will cQme to that a little later. Mostly . is a Pak Institute of 'Warfare in Azad killers are those traine,d across the border, Kas~nljr to give training to the terrorists. snluggled into· this country to destabilise How unfortunate.' This i 8 being tolerated Punjab.· There is only oneway to tackle, This is being put' up with. 'This has been this problem; seal the border with Pakistan. the consistent continuing process. Even I The terrorists", j thin the St,a te can th en be, abroad, j t is so. effectively mopped up;' sclectiv-e killings can be stopped in which. case communal I am conscious of th~ Jime limit. I cleavage also cap come to an, end. It is know that several bon. Members are waiting speak, J will concJude. . often said that" there ate lrJrge number of to such cases. Even in U.K. "We hav,e details of names, locations, Even the Un ited 'Kinadom is sheltering training schedules and the type" of Khalistanis. In spite of incessant pressure assistance Pakistan has given to On the U.K. .it has not handed over t.he these terrorists". die-hard criminals. Discussions on extradi tion are continuing. We give This is what was stated on the floor of treaties one version, and they give another our tbis HO'Qse by the tben Minister for Internal requirement is different, and their position S'e'curity, Mr. Arun Ne~ru. is different. There' is no meetjng point. The sb-cal1ed President of Khalistan ~ Mr• . Why not do you publish a White Paper Cba:ub~n ,is opera ting frtely, sendina . on this? .' ~ money. material and every. support to Kbalistanis' operating in. this ·country. SHRl SOMNATH CHATTERJEE That means what ? Wh~t do recently, Pre•• Yes! reports, say '1 The Khalistani youths were trained hl- the art of blowing bridges. They SHRI, BHATTA~ SRIRAMA a re planning to blow atomic plants, MURTY ~ 'You have' confronted .. tbe ParHament ar:d various other public Pa kistan Government with .all the institutions of great repute ar d cOl'sequer.ce necessary details and evidence' thereof. for this countJY 8S a whole. ~ lbty ·have That i. what is .ai~. Why, Dot ~be whole ~loWtl llP tbe KtJ,,'~lIka and the, may by ~ 23 D IscuJ.don i, : I,ee,,' NOVEMBER 18, 1986 iJ'seU'SBlt,." ,RI :' Recelft 3 Z14' .. Spur t In Terrorist Actl· Spur, ,,, 'TerrD'rist Acti... villr~ in PMnjab lind viti,s in Pun-jab and , other Parts of the other P4rtJ of 'he Country .' . Country {Stiri Bhtta'm Srirarna Murti] I 'quite r.e~l1i.e tbe dilemme of' the Government of' tndia. t4r. Bbattam their band tn several other things, a~d not, Silrama MUlty asked: is it·a mere law merely that. They arc waiting on their and order problem or is h. something wings to take next earliest step possible to. more? I think, we aU agree that it is a drown this country in abysmal darkness ,law and order problem and also something and dismal aloom and create total anarchy. more. This is their way to :cause dismemberment, The first step which Raj-iv Gandhi took and'destabilisation 4isruption and anarchy. was, 1et there be a democra lic Government 'This sb ould stop. to deal with this question. This $tep was lit,' • hailed by . the whole of the. country. A . Bither ~he Government is capable oT democratic government was instalJfd It -doing this. or if they ar.e Dot capable of goes"to the credit of tbe people of Punj'ab doing tbi~ then, should I suggest some that they took part in that election in such thing , Th~ should consider- whether there is a manner that it was demonstrllted to the .omething else they can do. And the coun'ry whole world that they do believe in the has reposed confidence in them Because, democratic trad'itions of 'the country. As 'you are returned to power with massive much as 60 to 70 per cent of the people mandate of the people. therefore you have took part in the elections, whereas the' the power, )'ou'have the authority. because fear, the apprehension was that probablY you are in power. We do not want you elections might not be allowed to take to go out of power,. we do nnt want you to place in 'Punjab; there ""Would not be &ny go out of office~ but you.. US~ aU your peaceful elections. But the peopft b~lied po~er to curb these trends~ If you cannot, tbose apprehensions and fears. Elections -you tail,the nat'on. You wilt have to do took place. A popular government was lOme, heart.. searching. You will have to ins~alled. One year has passed when this d~cide your ~ext course of action. government came to power. As I said, Qur hearts a're full of anguish, because not' ~HRI JAGAN NATH KAUSHAL a day paSSes when there are no killings. (Chandigarh) : After hearil.g the o,peninl Now, as matter of fact, 6, 7, 8, killings speaker I niust say that he has put forward probably is an average. But to say that almost the unanimous view of the House. B.irnaJa Government is doins nothing or I q:.lile agree with him that the unity of tbe Central Government is doinl nothinl India, the integrity of India is not would be uncha'ritable. Barnala Govern ne.lotiable; it cannot be compromised, meqt is also doing and the Central under any circumstances. The opposition Government is tryinl to assist the Barnala bas said it more than ooce. We value - Government in the discharge of its duty. their sentiD;lents We, infact, congratulate them. 1 also congratulate the openi~g The entire opposition is blcking the speaker tbat he bas depict.ed the pictur~ in Borna}a Governm,ent also ..• (lnterruption)~ Punjab in a graphic manner and he has almost given expression to the sentiments SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA Not of the people living in Punja b. If you entire. remember, last time also when 1 spoke, the burden of my speech was that people in , SHRl JAGAN NATH KAUSHAL Punjab go on asking the Members of There are some people who do Dot. Parliament and public t\len that llow long Anyway, maJority of the Members on the shal1 this continue. And 1 'stated on the other side do want "that the' democratic Boor of the House that· we do not have a , forces in, Puttiab should succeed and proper and satisfactory answer. democratic forces for the moment are represented by the elected. Government, 1452 hrs. the head of which is Shri Surjit Slnab, Barna)a. My, friend w'as right when' '110 lSHR~ SRARAO DIOHE in the.CIuJtr) spid We are not inte.rcs t ed in statisticl, ,~t ,. I ., i>i~ClJSl.lo" Re : Rtcent lCA'RtIKA' 2r7. 1908 (SAKA.) DlscUssion k.e : ~,ce~t Spurt in Terrorist A.ctl Spurt In Tef'Ofilt Act; vlties·ln Punjab and vitiei'l" Punjab cmd . olher Part, of th-e olher Parts 'CII the Country Country' ' sQm'etimes 8tat~tics also give us a history. 'Is it not . shameful that tbe terrorists They tel~.us what is hlppening. Well, there are being' eulogised on platforms and in was a' time when, only people were killed. Sabha$ as martyrs? Is it not shameful'? But then a reverse tr~nd came. Of he terro.. ' Ate those terrorists martyrs? They are the rists were also' being killed. It is an unfor en.emies .of the. country·. Their only aim is tunate feature that in this whole affair now nolbing else except Khalistan. They do po'licemen are also being killed. There ~as not want the Barnala povernment . l.o a charge; against the Police at, one time succeed. 'They do not want the Accord to that police is wholely mixed up with the succeed. They do not want the amity to tenorists and that is why results were not come to Punjab. 'They do ·not want that coming. Well, now tbat charge is not to tbe peopJe of Punjab should live like that ext.ent. .. «(nterruptions) brothers, and in spite of... their efforts, congratulations to the' people of Punjab. SHR.I THAMPAN THOMA~ ; That is With what. cournge they are f~cing all tbis also there. although there is a sens.e of fear aJso. . SHRI .lAGAN N~TH KAUSHAL: 15.00 brs. Charge is there but not to that extent. Police morale· has been boosted.. Police But they are sUcking to their guns. is trying to do' their duty. But unfortu They ha ve a firm feeling, in their mind that nately, still ,Aome people are mixed up. ultimately terrorism will be crushed. But Now, the question arises what is. to be tbat' 'ultimately' let it not be too long; as done because we', have to find an answer. I said there is a limit to our patience. Let According to me, still there is a lack of it not be too long. political will on the part of the Barnala " GOvernment to act courageously. The The forces hav~ been identified. We Government bas to act courageously know the forces which are giving credibility because if a government cannot give law and respectability to the terrorists move~ ·and order, cannot give a sense of security ment also. Nbw those forces have to be to its- people, then surely l11a t government certainly dealt with according to law. is lacking in discharging' its primary duty. Because if rule of law is to prevail, then 1 must confess that Shri B irnaia is not law must have its way. Otherwise, if once ta~ing political decisions to ,solve the the machinery of law breaks, then only we problem. My friend has brought :to the. degenerate in.to a law of jungle. 1 would, notice of the House the incident which had therefore, beg of Shri Surjit &ingh . Barnala taken place only p. few days back in the to rise to the occasion. Now the terrorism Golden Temple complex. My friend has which was confined to Panjab, undollbtedlY:t also brought to the notice of' the Hou'Se as ·my 'learned friend the opening speaker . Baba Jogindor Singh's role in the whole bas brought to oUf notice, was seen in affair. He is right when he said tbat ~e Pune. \\ e al~ have been hanging our is almost putting venom inlo young minds. head'in shame that Col. Vaidya was kilJeJ. He is- poisoning 'their minds . The 'youth, ~e c.ould not protect him. Again another the immature, the more religion minded incident happened on the 2nd of October. in tbe name of religion are' being misguided. Undoubtedly, it brings credit to nobody. and if action is not being taken, then On the other hand the security forces, the surely he is lackins in that courage which peopfoe who are charged with the security he should find when 'almost the entire of the Prime Minister, surely they have nb country wants him to ' succeed. He does expl3nation to off~r. N~w, therefore, the say. He says, ·'1 am out to crush question.... ultimately boils down to tbis; terrorism" but if he cannor' take actjOll The terrorists must by now have come to against those forces' which are trying to give . re~ljse that through terrorism they cannot' respectability . and credibility to the achieve their objt}ct, because their object terrorists, then surely I do expect from him is notbil18 except K.balistan and Kbalistan that it is the tim·e to act otherwise it ·wilJ. . means separation of some ,parts of the be t·oo late. He must act, I must say. ~ country which this counlry, we arc all . " ,. ~21 tJl.,cuss;on 11.6 : Recent blscusslon /I.e : jecent Spurt in Terrorist Acli- . Spurt in TerrDr/Jt Act i" 'vltlel in Punjab and vities in Punjab and ot~er Parts of. the other Parts .0/ the Country. Country (Shri 'lagan N atb Kausha'l need. When th~y need money, they go and loot a bank. So fa~ as arms are cotfcerned, one on this point, sball not permit. If the arms ar~ with them in~ abundance.' And' the creed of violence cannot s91ve the problem, type of weapons which have been recovered then "obviously the problenl can be solved from the t~rrorists indicate they ~ave pistols, . through other methods 81so. There are revolvers, n'fies, machiRe guns, st en guns other method::i also. The Akali Party, I etc. They are in possession of there type said last time also~ was voted to power. of ~eapons and now it is almost accepted Now unfortunatelY, there is split in the by everybody that across the b:>rder, there Akali party The split on w~at "/ The is training camp where people are given all split is on this.matter that when holY places types of training. So, we have to be are being used for un.holy purposes, then vigilant on more than one front. We have ihe Government should not take atlion. to tackle the situation undoubtedly on. a This is unheard of. On what did the AkaH war·footing, because we cannot go on Party had a split '1 It is because the police waiting. It is because,. things may get out had to be sent to the holy precints. Unholy of hand. When so mlloy things are mixed things are being done there. If religion up, then· I do expect that· the Centre ob. and politics go on getting mixed up then viously will do whatever is in their hand we are in a bad way anti by DOW everybody to do and the ~tate Governnlent will aJ'80 must have understood that the situation disch'lrge their duty for protecting the inno- which has been brought about in Panjab cent 'people of Punj.l b , "I' was 'not the d~ing of the Government. It· , . was the doing of those people who had defiled the sanctity of the religious places. SHRI ·SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY They had turned it into a. sanctuary of the . (Katwa): Sir, tJday'_s discus'sion is on the criminals. Surely, no country can permit recent spurt in terrori~m in Punjab and it. Therefore, it is very good of the Hon. other p..lrts of the country. At t~e outset, Speaker to set the tone of this discussion 1 must say that this spurt in terrorism in and the tone of the discussion is tha t Punjab Tripura and in West Bengal and else country's in(egrity and country"s unity is where is . a part of imperialist gam: to not to be bargained for any cost and the desta bit ise our country. I believe the forces which are trying to pamper terror'ists Members' have se~n a repor~ appeared in or give credibility to those people who are Hindust'an Times on .11 tb October" tbat doing wrt1ng things, who are killing whenever there is a decline in terrorist innocent people, have to be ta ;klcd. activities in our country, . those who are abroad, their mentors keep on pouring more I would conclude by saying .. people in aid, more he1p and more instigatIon to Punjab ask only one question. After com- ' terrorists. S'o, the recent spurt is in a.way mitling the most .ghastly and daring dcts, directly linked to this one. It is quite the report appears' in ,the 'newspapers that visible that there is a common link between tbe murderers escaped. Sometimes they all the secessionist organisations and escape (In foot; sometimes they escape on a movements in different parts oC t~e country, bicycle; sometimes they escape. on a scooter; We have the reports that ·in Northeastern sometimes in a CClr; someqmes they walk . part of the country, different organisations ..away. ' Now, surdY they do not vanish int,o who preach terrorism and ~ecessjon - ULFA thin air. There arc people who protect in Assan1, N~CN in Nagaland, PLA "in them. There are people who give them Manipur, TNV in Tripura-'have ccmbined -abelter and th'e·re is a well known saying togelncr. Again~ we have the reports that probably in al1 parts of the country : Oal Khalsa in their meeting in wbich PiWple from· abroad also participated wrote Claor ko ItQ Maaro, Chor ki Moan ko Madro a )ett~i to GNLF leader urging· him to take .uP armed struggle and they will be giving We have to kill the people who u1timately them the arms;' ,Again, there are r.eport& try to live them shelter, who ultinlately tr~ that tbe Uttar Khand Kranti Dat has been to live them all types of help, which they set up to have a separate State for Garli~al Discussion l We hear that the, Govt. and .Rulinl Another thinl ( want to raise is this. Party are issuing a statement to help tbe You must make it a point that you do o(."t Government. and- save t~e country. J ask surrender' to the threats of these forces. the Go\'ernme~t to help the seculllr fOlces, When the M.izoram Accord was signed, we stand by them, t.c)p them and sa ve tbe crhi~i8ed tpat. AJid repott$. are tbere; c:ountrY. With these words, I CODcJud~. , ~ ~! DisClISs/OII Re : Rl'C~'d NOVEMBER t 8, , t 986 DIseMS 11011 Re : Rece"t 3 3 ~ Sp~rt I" Terrorist ~cti.. Spurt I" Terror!", Acti vities In Punjab 'Jnd ' 'Itles i" Punjab and , other PQrt~ of the. others Pa,rts of the Country Country SARI 'R. S. "SPARROW (Jullundur) baneful factors that adversely affect the Mr. Chairman, Sir, I come ,from the very traumafic situation obtaining in Putljab centre of ,Punjab and I have seen, 4f)sessed StaJe nnd elsewhere and make some and adjudged tbe horrible typ;.'} of situation suggestions from my side, I once again tliat has been prevailing in' Punjlb over a' take the liberty to recominend at the very number of years. So, I h~\.ve n. 'little bit outset that in mind,' soul and practice We of request to make. You may ~ish to must all consider 'this problem in depth' listen to my observations for a while. from irreversable national angle. From national angle it will have to go right int'o Today's deb:\te intimately eoncerns aU our ,heads. N,o political slants, no citizens of India irrespective of c'Tass, creed, acrinlony, no misunderstanding; ab~'olu'teJy religion or, region because of its strategic clean from w,ithin. we have to vi~w this position and other reasons, all too obvious, problem, Bharatmata's problem, India's the Punjab State, .however, holds a special problem, nation"s prohlern a$ such. I si,nificance in so far as the activities of tbe s.tart with that prefnise with my urging terrorists go. This is the m3jor point, the with my knowledge fir4ilt hand~ whatever hub of the whole situation that makes the w'ay you wish to call it. terroristic situation moving around. Certa in factions, some political parties, Punjab people are simply tired whilst organisations and odd type of leaders i,n facing the traumatic conditions that have my view simply do not comprehend that been prevailing over the last few year~ in angle at aU Sorry. This is another their state. Their day to day life is aberratio~ in our liff." of today. disrupted; the fear of 'the unknown looms heavy as a dark shadow around them. Anyway Sjr, why it is not understood that apropos of the evolutions flow the He may be a businessman, a Bank or world over, things have changed, even the Cooperath'e Society employee,.a College terroristic style h as changed, weapons have Professor or a Medical Doctor, a Police cnanged and for that matter in rl!ality we Inspector or a Judge, a village Sarpanch, have to understand how to set about this a PolMical leader or a petty shopkeeper; problem and how to fight againS,t this he could be accosted anywhere and his prob1em. I will bring out cersain cogent house could be rlided at any time by a set , factors later. of sten·gun wielding tenorists. This is the' 8cen:r,io roughly as it obtains. A word' about some important factors Internecine fight and murder8, as are that directly affect the bad situaHon' .in occuring, say in ~ertaill factions apart, but P,unjab. The first one is the poisoned the looting. .arson' and indiscriminate destabilisation ,thrust from across. India's murders of innooent persons fai1s borders, I rate it as number one. It is a completely outside the earstwhile enjoyed top hatched way of destabilising certain ,countries and we have been and still are ethical and religious standards common, < in pr'actice with the Punjabi fraternity in the target. all its rural and urban area s setting. My friend has nTrea"dy tried to explain this Who does not < know as to' in what aspect. thoughtful a manner plans of de~tabjlising. vivisecting, humbling·, and, avenging India, Anyway. it rs no good undes. the had been hatched and put into, act ion circumstances as \hey stand to apportion systematically, phase by phase, by one of' blame on one ot' otber. I will explain our neighbouring countries in collusion' and elucidate that' factor steadilY. . '. with other strong power,? Not one~ but more than one. One could write out a Bef('re I focus the attention of the woeful chapter in prose Md ' verse on this 14embers of this .aU&ust House of certain big-time inter,national conspiraiY' , 337 D'lkus81o" 'R, L.R"~"t KAllTIKA '27'" i 908 (SAKA) Distussion Re : Recent 3S8 Spu,t"n Terrbrlst A~ti;',' , Spurt. in rerrorlst ActI vit/ea·in Punjab IJ1IIJ vities ,in Punjab aNt other, ParIs 0/ the other Parts of the Cou"try . Country . Don't we, Sir, see the. significance of-' Are all the above eXercises on the part and the' poilonin, techniques uled to rope of' tbe colluding, pattners to fulfil a let in the immature and monetarily bought aim'1 I would say 'yes'. Their aim is to . out simple minded Sikh youth who were destabil ise' India' principally through indoctrinated and put under tutelage mixed creating' chaos '-and anarchY in' the with other trained no~.ln,dian nationals. sensitively positioned border State of starting say. from Jack Camper's Terrorists Punjab. Training outfit to the other similarly well' established nine identified places in"ide one , Here, Sir, however is a sliver of a of our ncisbb9uring countries? Don't we silver lining in the dreadful dark clouds know that " This is a ,well-known picture shadowing ominously the life style of whicp everybody world-over knows. Punjab, in, particular. Vast majority of people of different religions, of rural al As a result of causing well timed also urban areas in thifr State stil1 -live diplomatic pressure by our hone Prime side by side of one another in, th.e usual ,Mintstet, Shri' Rajiv Gandhi, the people in fraternai manner. that they are used to (or general of this big power started to centuries. I congratulate ,them of their condemn theit own country·s administration resilience and bravery. If 'I know them policy of aiding and abetting t.he terrodsts. well, they will never leave their bomes and Yet, however, the backlash effect of the hearths'to setUp outside Punjab. They are ,planned out destabiJisins project against going to stay on. They are al1 Puojabis India is still working, may be on indirect and I know them intimately. Sir, never lines. . in the history of Punjab have such things happened. Nfy friends have talked about Who would not understand the signi the question of terrorism and that we could ficance of power.. wiehling nnd diplomati not stop this and that. I may say that cally hidden super hands w,ho are militarily it is a very very new type of cult. It is a ~trengthening quite out of proportion our dangerous cult the ,world over. I can I)ext door neighbour country by releasing to ' count 'the whole world-over what terrorist. them, 'f ~Sbri R. S~ -Sparrow] For this reason the' deployment of aoy kind' of forces would "Dot be wrons•. It '.' bave'made. Of course, there' are always our 'international border and we can put· black sheep here, an4 there; in fact, they any kind of force sector·wis~ to ensure its ,nre there, everywhere, we find, them even sealing off under full 'control. W'by $hould in Services. ,'There were some people who a pin go up and down ? It can' be d~De and were trying to'seU-out the Secretariat of we should 00 ,it. It j, something that I the' Prime Minister to make money. Was wouJd submit for your consideration. i.t not so '1 There are examples gaiore in respect of them. ~,et us not ignore that. Lastly, as ,chance WQuld have it, my final recommendation is for ,my inUmate Now, 1 have a few. recommendations to friends, kith and' kin, fo~ A,k.ali biethern·to make. Firstly, I tecomnlend that this ,accept with a particular reference to being a big. time national problem, all, ,Punjab. political parties in this august House should se1flessly, with meaningful 'candour All AllaH groups and their splinter and willing support strengthen the hands of parties must categotic'llly declare' that the hon. Prime Minister by working out a apropos of the Constitution of India they , solid plan of action to eliminate the curse firmly stand for the unity and 'integrity of . of terrorism from the Indian sub-continent. .India. Mind you, it is a recommendation • .--1 have no, doubt that the han. Prinle My recommendation is. not only to one of Minister with his aCknowledged open them. but it is to all, they can have minded approach at ,sorting out intr,icate different groups, they can have different issues would all be there to cooperate, parties, ,1 ,do not mind, but this guide and help in this process. is my humble recommendation to them all that they should abhor and stand firm' The Government in'this context may, again~t ,terr~rists and any anti-national if I may point out to the Home Minister 'elements ;n that context. for his kind consideration. also consider, setting up a parliamentary Advisory My other appeal to all Akali Dal Committee of both. the Houses ~o grapple groups or parties is that while accepting with this rather all important issue to full my above premis.e, they should get t-,gether advantage. Why not go into this issue ,and create an· atmosphere or Sarbat do selflessly; debate it and then take spitable . Bhala .for achieving greatness of our nation, measures to grapple with this pr~blem '? mother India, which is common, to us all Such a parliamentary 'Committee will pave from .the days of our areat Gurus~ and ~ot the backing of both 'th~'~ouses. That win cut each other's throat and' not kill our belp in finding a solution and strengthen own brothers. Tt.,e are' the three the unity of our country. tecommendations that I make to them. Secondly, the' .real bane of most of SHRI THAMPA~ lHOMAS the destabilizing features that: particularly (.Ma velikara) : Sir, terrorism has to be have created a traumatic situation in condemned and 'cont,aiDed. And this Punjab ,and elsewhere is the inflow of House has given 'aU' the rights to the trained agents, narcotics, arms, atlJmunition, Government to take alJ 'prop'cr mea.surea. bags full of money, and other aides tha t In that we have not failed.' But we have aggravate ,arid upset the ,homogeneity of 'failed in cont,ining terrorism. Why? If there life in our motherland. We therefore,' is SOIne io'tro8pection, we"' caD find out the must further' accelerate . O\U; command basic reasons for ,this. control and vigilan'ce to completely seal off ' the atTe'cte.d border areas. .We just seal TerrOli~m comes out of ,economic it off. The Central Oovernmtnment, 1 reasons 8r:d 'pb)'cho!C'gical reasons. On' 1'1ea(l has to play full part" a~ it. both touri.s, tbe. approa,tb .towards 341 blscusslon'Re: Recent KARtiIc.A 27; 1908 (S..4KA). Discussion Re : Recent Spurt in Terrorist Actl.. ' , Spurt in Terrorist Aetl- . 'ftus ,,,, Punjab Qnd lilties in Punjab and . , other PDrts of the . other Parts of the Countr, Country. terrorism in our country bas been .on a SHRI HA:RISH,RAWAT : How could very short-term'-basis. Therefqre, whatever aJl those things ~e connected with terrorist measures' we have taken and . whatever way act ivities ? (111terrupUons) w~ have tried to, contain it~ have. not ,~ . succeeded. SaRI 'THAMPAN THOMAS :' I will f~n Yo~. ,Be pat.ierlt. 1 will explain to Now, it is easy for tbe' terrorists or you io detail. I am' giving, you tbe basic .. those who want to destabiHse this country, reasons . 'to find ,out people and train them.' Terrorism as at present, is not only a SHRI BALWANT SINGH, RAMOO menace in our country., . It has become' an WALIA: Yoo must hear him. international phenomenon. This has come as a disorcJer of the capitalistic system. If SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS, I am those, people want to create such conditions giving the psYchological reasons.· You and. brina up situations such as this, iri apy have tried to contain it in certain methods country and especially in developing but you have failed. Why have we failed '1 natiQns, they can do it. And fndia has I agree with my previous speaker that we been a place fot carrying; out such an have failed in crea ting a national character' . experiment of such forces hitherto for a in our country. We have created characters, Jong perioR' Terrorism is' originated in of separatism. You have tried to do it in the recent past and it is found just not. in Punjab. You wanted to win the elections Punjab alone. It has happened in my and you did, it. When you want to win State. When it. happened in Kerala, that elections in Bengal you are trying to play was in the name of Naxalites. It happened' the same game. When you want to win in Bengal and then it was in the name of elections in Kerala, you arc doing it.....• N.axalites. It is ha ppening elsewhere in (Interruptions) many other States with many· other names~,~ I cannot narrate all that now here. There Since he has. askea, I am telling' him. fore, tbis terrori~m in PUnjab is only ('De of When play for communa1i~i1n" when, you the problems~ ODe of the things among you apPease the small tendencies which go maoy of such problems facing the country. over and above our national feelings, then naturally we 'get it back. In thi's country The reason for this growth of terrorism iT we h&ve the audacity to support the 'Women's Bill for protecting the dahts of is that YOU are all abetters to ,,,it and the ·Oovetnment i~ an accomplice to. it. Why Muslim women, then what did happen in Sir- ? Economic reasons, economic tbe name of Sbarjat 'I Adam Sena has disparities and economic, discontentment grown on the one side and on th~ other, among the youngsters, these a.'re all' Shiv Sena ,is growiQg. This has happened generating an impression or creating a because of tbe appeasing attitude which tendency to joint the terrorist movement. you have, taken towards such issues. Some way or the other ~hey are becoming Natur;l1y, as a consequence of ,that, the, a'prey to such sort of a thing If" an· people who wanted to build it up have a unemployed person' goes to Gurudwara. he fertile soit in Ipdia to bring it up.. will be givel) food and weP!l'OQS by -the , . OUrutlwara an. then the pries.t asks him What, h~s happened in Ram Jhanma to work in.D religious manner against tl)e bhoomi in Ayodhya '1 RaS ~ Shiv Sena and interest of the ,nation, and he will' work Hindu Sena have come up in tbe country. for that cause. If there is, a Oovernmept Sir, I would, endorse my view with my . which 'can provide jobs' to the unemployed predeceSs('r speaker ,that if a' national and if,there is a society which can create character is built up in this country, then it some motivation in the minds of tbe youth, would have been· different. But, I say that this sftuation might pot have arisen. " in the absel,lce of a national'leader for OUr ~4~ b'ls~ssio" je : keel'" '!Jl$cuIslon ie : Atcertt. ~'44' Spur~ in T,rrorist ,4£ti.. , Spurt iii ,r.rrorlst Acti- .,Itles In PII!IJab "and vltie" in Punjlib· lind ' other Partl of the ' ot1t~r farts ,of t"_ Country Country ISbri Tbainpan Thomas] carried out 1 People are still doubtina tbe Government. They feel that it is counlrY or a nationl leadership' of our for the sake of s8yiqg, said it, but it ,ii country, "in the absence of ~ahatmaji and . not done But ,when the boys' are kept Jayaprak"sb Narainji, it would not be in 'the jai,l, then' they feel that wby these possible. ' ;~.. people are kept in the 'aiL There is no ' sort of confidence created. 1 submit, the Sir, I am proud of Mr. Jayaprakasbji, credibility we .. have to build up. There is a when, he w'\nted the dacoits to surrender politica'j 'movement, ,as a .. nation, as a· ,to 'him wIth' weapons. It can be done. credibility which we have to build up, which But with today's, national leadership of this we have lost in our public life. If we are' country, can a person go to Punjab without able to build it up and declare that we are any belp' or a,ids, without police or ,military Indians first and the Indians last, then this protectioQ. '1 This is the absence of national problem can be' solved. Then onlY, the 1eadersbip and this absence of national situation can be saved. ' leadership which we have built up from August 15. 1947, when we decided to give PROF. N. 'G. RANOA: Sir, I want Islamabad the Indus, from the name which to say one thing in reply to what my friend India originated, it is not with us today. has said? Tomorrow, \Vh,at is going .to happen, that we cannot say. Unless'and until, we unite and we find out methods and we s'olidlY He throw out a challenge, that challenge declare that we ar: the first Indians, we are has' already been met by· us. Freedom tbe second Indians, we are the third Indians 'fighters beloo$ing to all political parties, and we will always be Indians, there will be such as, Prithviraj Azad, Geni, Mohan no solution to this problem: Singh, ~heel Bbadra Yaji and when hunbreds of our freedom fighters ha ve marched through Punjab in a peaceful manner, from Sir, lure today, what we hear is that village to village, they were acclaimed by people are telling. 1 am Sardarji first and . everybody. You are saying that there is no th~n an Indian; I am a Muslism first and leadership. There is leadership. ~ am then an Indian; I am a Christian first and sorry for you. , ' then an 'Indian. This feeling if we have to chaQge, on pehalf of my party I say, \. we SHRI BHOLANATH SEN (Calcutta support, if anything is taken in this direction South) : Mr Chairman, Sir, it, seems to be to maintain solidarity of this country and in me that e.ome of the speakers on the other 'the field of uniting together and to fight on side are used to repeat the same old storY the principles of Ahimsa which was told in in every case-, AIII erica, destabilisatioD, the SAARC Conference in Bangalore, three enemy and all kind of things, Oorkha land, days back bp other national leaders. This movement is anti national and _0 on. can be achieved only by non-violence.' I would like to ask, ""can tbere be peace-march _ The question that has been raised in containing alL tbe sections of, 'People this House is what about Punjab Accord '1 regularly to Punjab or wherever it takes ,Now about Punjab Accord. there are only place to see that people rlrc having feelIng two thin'lS which are outstanding. I do of this nature and we have not done that .. .. not know \lib ether my friends are aware of As I said" the policies 'we b~ ve failed, we them: one is the transfer,ol territory which' have fililed in inculcating this. The second is connected with the tra,nsfer of. Chandigarb. - thina what I said is that, we have been There ,were, as ,everybody knows in the' appearing' the short.. term p~1icies and as a House, there different commissions apointed result of short-term policies. we ·are facing by Government. Now, it is peeding' befor~ this problem. You have said t'hat Punjab the fonner Justice Desai of Supreme Court Accord was signed 'but the terms, and and a decision has. yet to, come. So, both condit,ions of this Punjab Accord, were the)' the ,States, Punja band Haryana are parti- . , " ,b iscuI8ion .ft. ,: it.ee,nt DIsCt4ssiolt Re'-: Recent 3'4'6 01. -tf, • Spurt in Terro,bt Actl. Spurt in Terrorist Acti·' . ,"t,l~" I" Plln}Gb ,and. 'fIltie.s in Punjab and oth" Parts 0/ ~he other Part) of the' Country Country I . '. ' cipatinl ~n it; they are ~ not ,. raising this "Punjabis and Sikhs are' all over India. I 'dispute; they are just wait.ing or tJte result know that in Calcutta there are a large The other thina is the sharing 'of rivers nqmber of people~ Ministers also want water. With regard to that, there .. \1 as there. I believe Mr. Ramoowalia's relations - some dispute regarding alignment. Before are 'also within my own c"nstitutency. I that, there was a commission or a tribunal have talked tQ a lot of them They are was appointed; and the tribunal b'as gone always sorry, for it. Let us start a movement ,through' that; there has been a litt1e bit of thr~ugbout India, wherever they are~punjabi. trouble' ,with resard to alignment, because and specially Sikhs t~llinl them that this the people through whose Jand a canal will sort of thing, cannot pay i.n the long run; 80, have raised a. dispute: ,and it has been tbis terrorism. We have to explain them said by Mr. BarI~ala tba't the dispute will about it. It nlust go (0 every' village. They be ever and the canal will be ,completed in say, yo", are an India; I am also an Indian. the courlse of the end of the next year. I am your brother; ,you are my brother. Tberefore, nobody is blind with regard to We' must not sbed our blood. You have Punjab Accord. The questi'on is bow to every right to be a citizeg of this counlry as solve this kind of terrorism that is goiog I hav.e. My fdends here said,' ,weB this is on in Punjab. Nobody can give a complete due, to unemployment, this and that. This answer. is a very peculiar thing because even in Punjab and Haryana', as' it was said In one Terrorism is not a new thing in the of the American papers, their standard of world history. Think of our country, think living is very high. Due to production and of Mahatma 'Oandhi. He died; he was due to their sheer, 'hard work they have k.illed. Then Mrs. Gandhi., our former raised the standard of living so much that it Prime Minister was also killed. 1;..'ongowalji can be, compared with tbe American was also killed; so many other persons have standard of health'. also 'been killed. It. America also, Presidents had been killed. There had been a~sassi. nations. But, u,nfortunately, those terrorists Now t ,tliat is not the question there. do not understand that by mere assassination This has to be solved in this fashion merely you cannot change the history of the world Politically and socially. In the North of India's at least because India has proved Eastern States there are three or . four that it can rise 'as one man against any States, small States, Na.galand, Manipuf attack from any ()utsid,e agency. We had Tripura and Arunachal and also Assam. shown it when Pakistan did it; we had Everywbere by ali these people de-stabilisa shown it ,when China did it. Therefore. tion and attempts of all kinds of things they are misled' people; they have forgotten have been started. Npt a word bas been' what happened during the time C'f the . said what. attempt: has been made to find partition. A train. 108~d dead bodies out what is the, real problem for which they came f~om Lahore. They have forgotten are fighting'. How many people have said everything. 'what is the real problem for wh,ich these ipSUf$ents are fighting ,coming from across Now, these. young men, as Mr. KausbaJ the border like Burma, Bangladeah, from has said, immature men, misluided men other places wherever they can and some tw.o or three or fQur of five people in times people have been ambushed and Iroups-tbey arc going on ,an,d killing some killed? Onless and until these State Govern derencel~ss people unaware,. just gO' on ments which are there, try to find out, try killing them. Everyone should be told that to negotiate try k> appease them and try to by guns only you canflot achieve anytlfing. CO(lle to an understanding, this will never Tbere must be. a political solution. I want 'step becaqse this is-l must admil-' in spite that the entire society . will rise as one. man of ~he fact that the Government is takinl to solve it polItically, tf> explain to them utmost care 'to build up a barrier 60 that that this will take them nowhere; this blood there is no happening crossing, over the "hed win take them nowber'e... territory in an unautborised ma.t1ner atill. ~41· tJiscu$ston R, : Recent .blsclt~sID" ,ke : Ae~Cnt ~48 Spur, lit· Terror 1st ;Acti· Spur' III Tetrorl:st Acti.. viti" In Punjab .fJru/ ' viti., In Punjab and other Parts 01 the oth,r, Parts 0/ the Country Count,y I '[Sbri Bbolanath S~n) them, we have to ta~k to the people all over India, and all over the borders and 111lt so far as this, what is' called the beyond. ' Gurkbaland movement is concerned, 'I was surprised to' hear.' it. Here is also a Today, in papers ,I Saw that O.M. Shah ,Government. They' and deal with Congress , is asking for Pre.19 S 3 Kashmir ~ has ,made enemies. They say all Congress enemies his Political ideal. What is this 1 Wherever, arc ant~-8ocial', barring a few That is in we have a chance, wherever there ,is such a the paper I have reati We'll, barring a few. pr.oblem, it' is a . vast country,' it is a When they ca,onot control the prQblem in federalion' of velY many States, different' tbe bills with the Police they say tbat they languages and just see here, so many people are anti-national. Now, this very thing is . belonging to different races and Parties, going on. Who ~s fighting there? . CPM '1 sitti~g' t<>gether, can we nol sit as in~epen ... Not even the Forward Block, not even CPI. dents all together under one flag" for the NobodY is p:uticipating. Why do you not unity of India and Jives as a peaceful talk 1. Why do you not talk with Gb~isbing 1 'broth~ts in our ..motherland? There is no problem doubt talking. 16.00 hrs •. (I"terruptions) SHill INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirh'it): The. Jast : few speakers have reined a very SHRI SOMNATH CHATT~RJEE: On far field. I sha n tty to confine' my remarks 'which issue? because of limitation of time also, only to . the question of the l)unjab. : . . SHRI 'BHOLANATH' SEN And Gheisbing is not being arrested. Why is he The questiou was .raised by Mr. Bhattam not being arrested, if h~ is, such an anti in the ~ery beginning of this discus!tion national? Is the law 'not enough '1 They how long are we going to allow this can arrest all Congressmen an right" but . situation to go on dr'ifting like this '1 I they cannot· .arrest Ohe1sing because they also add :' how long are we to go on making arc afraid of him. And the whole point is very nice sounding, and very high fto.wn that they cannot do anything because of speeches in this House 1.' Every time 9fC their inability, their inefficiency is causing have the debate on th'e Punjab, very noble trouble~ for, them. They have realised that sentiments are being ·expressed. .I am not they cannot deal with him, yet, they do against those sentiments. But those' senti 'not admit that we cannot deal with this ment~ mu~t be . backed -up and followed by problem, in' spite of the fact that the some, action. Our speeches do 'not count Central Government is taking steps and in much. Mr. Bhola Nath. Sen, nobody witl. spite of the fact our Prime Minister Rajiv· read .our speecht'l or brother about them. Gandhi bas said, that Bengal wil~. never be again partttioned and we do not allow any SHRI BHOLA~ATH SEN: . We, do tbin~ wrong to be done there. have conservations with our colleagues and friends in Calcutta which you do not do;. Now, my last 'appeal to the House,is but 1 have done. this, that violence cannot be' met with violence, That is the lesson tha't we have saRI I~DRAJIT GUPTA: And you learftt from Oandhiji's. time and again. le.ak that out to the press. VIolence cannot. eliminate violence. We have to take it as truth. We have!o take steps of course to protect Jaw and order ~ SHR! 'BHOLA NATH SEN: The law and order, bas t9 be maintained ,That , Punjabis and Sil6hs of,Calcutta continuously . is another matter. But· to come to, a write to me. Even today ,'1 have lot a - pernlancnt SOlution . we have to .. talk to letter. ' Dlicu's.~/tJ" R,c: /t,e,,,t KARTIKA 27.; 19G8 (SAKA) , DlscuJslon Re : Recent ,350 'Spur, in Ter~(Jrl't Actl.. . 'Spurt in Terrorist Aerl viti" in PUIIJab 'ond ,vltifJS in Punjab an,d otlt" Par~ 01 the. .: otller Parts 0/ the Country 'Country SHRI JNDRA1IT GUPTA:', Many liquidat e all of them? Whit a're you· IQin. 8pe~ker8 here havt again emphasised the, to discuss with them? Uplill now, {hey fact wbich has been said so many times have 'consisten.tly denied all knowledge of bere,' thai wbere we are lagging behind is 'any of our people being gIven shelter and in the' political mobilisation of the 'Peo'Ple' training there. That is what we ha~e been against terrorism. And I do not think any told at previous occasions. If you have concrete steps"are beiol taken for it apart got something new in your kind which". from some peace committee rtleetinas, here you think, win be h~lpfuJ in defulina the and there and resolves,are being repeated situation. 'kindly, tell us because we do 'Dot that we sbould go to the people and orga know what this agreement' is aU about. nise various 'kinds of processiolls and domonstrations and so on. I do not tbink, I think, a new dimension is now beitll all parties are pullins tbeir weight. KindlY sought to be given to lUis extremist excus,e me for saying so; Parties which are agitation. Two .slogans are there very cap~bl e of mobilising people' in large clearly visible now. One is, Barnata mUlt numbers provided their leaders stand in be r'emoved from, the Chief Ministership. front of them, they 'are riot pulling their weight. 1 do not say in any disparaging S}-IRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE sense nor any kind of boastfui sence be Congress (I).' cause our people "there are being now made the main targets of these k tllers .. It pains SH'RI INDRAIIT GUPTA : I do not me .because we have lost 80 many of our know ,of the Congress (I). I know of ~he comrades. Darshan Singh Canadian or anti.. Barnal: wing of the Akalis or most Ajit Singh Mastana and such people who have of t);le, extremi,sts section, they" are been freedom fighters and revolutionaries demandh.,g that Barnala should go and be all their lives, they could have laved them should be replaced by anybody. They saY' selves, ,if they did not bother to speak out that they are prepared to accept anybodY ,openly in public places, in public forums but not Barna)a. And second is,' Ribeiro against these people. But they tO,ok that must be removed. These are ,the two ri,k and they paid with their lives. I can slogans on ,which the extremists are trying assure you, as tar as our party is concerned, . to mobilise. I should say that these however many more our comrades are' slogans have got some motivations behind, killed, we will not hesitate to shed our which is to aggravate the situation' still blood for the unity and integrity or the further. We all krow that Surjit ,Singh country. Barnata, . for various reasons and compulsion-I suppose, he is a man after I read in the papers today that at a1l,- is not able to do everything that we Bangalore yesterday, some agreement had, would like a Chief Minister to do. But jf been reached that there will be some talks he is removed and somebodY comes as a held in Islamabad in the first week of next substitute, who 'is more acceptabJe to the month between the fJoreign "Secretaries of extrem,ists end the terrorists, it Will mean two countries to discuss mutual cooperltion ~ complete destabjJjsation of the Punjab "in this matter of curbing terrorist activities . and collapse of' whatever' law and order jf on the border. That was the press report; it exists at all there at present. Simitarly, t do not know exactly what is -envislged in with Ribeiro. Well, he may be a tough mao. this. Perhaps, the Home Minister could It may be that·, he is rather harsh~ throw some light on this. How are you sometimes, I do not, know, these' are tbe. goipg to discusss with the Pakistan Foreian, accusations against him. But I think be is Secretary how to curb ,terrorists activities on ' 'a brave man also who' is facing ~ very' . the border until' they rdmft or a'gree that diilngerous job and a very difficult job. I our terrorists are beiDI given sanctuaries think tb,e attempt which was· made on 'his there across the border and are beinl ~bere life should be an eye-opener to 'evtO body. in their" c~mps and' t b~)' arc, prepared to He was al,so saved not by securify forces; ,S t . DlsclI'sltoll R, : R,CI"" NOVEMBER. 18. 19«6'" Distil""" R, : R~CI"" ,~52 ,Spurt ill Te'rrOrl8t Acti. Spurt ,,, T~'r9rllt Jf.ct /. viti" In PUllJab .ltd . vliiel In PIIfI}tib: aid other Part. of 'the other Part$ 0/ til. COUll"" 'Co~ntrl ,[Sbri Indt~jit Gupta] solution. "It CInnot be solved by. security' measures atone. If, you depend only Oft 'be was saved by providence, just as Rajiv security, measures, I sho.uld say' it is a Gandhi 'wa~ 'saved at Rajghal. Security confession "of failure "<;>n the part of the" fOl"ces cannot.' take aoy cr~dit. It is Government. Of course, security measure. because he bad some presence of mind and have to.be there. They are 'allo fun of· •,be is ~n eXf)erienced and trained man la'pses and defe.:ts as they ate at present • himlelf tbat be took r.course t9 a measure And compo,uoded worse is, I am ' sorrY to which sa\1ed :hlm from the bullets. Bul1ets say, evcr.Y new and then the Prime Minister 'of whom ., ,Of these 'armed ponce personnel makeS the statement that terrorism hal themselves. 'That is wby' 1 had said the been ,curbed, that the terrorists are on the otber day that . there is ~ollusion within r~D' and som'cthini, BV'eryday we have to your whole ,,,curity arrangement. Tbere read about a dozen of innocent peop.)e is penetration. It is penetrated. by, these being killed, being that in cold blood. So,' peopl e. There is colJusion. Ribeiro was what is the point in making such eVeD able to identif' -the chaps, including statements 1 The more you allow these a Head Constable of armed police-perhaps . thipss to go on, tbere is, an escalation be bas been arrested later. Those people taking place., N,ow we read in the pap~rs themselves" tried to kill hIm inside the about an arm~d llindu Shiv Sena, some of' . armed police complex where)' he lives. whose people have been arrested yesterday Providential escape. If be had fallen a , for planning to commit dacoity in a bank. victim to the bullets, it would have boosted They are also getting armed. Hindu Shiv the morale of these terr(\rists attti extremists Sena and these people a~e goml to to the skies. So, I will just request t~e confront each other. At least in the Government on no account and under towns of Punjab, this' Hindu Shiv Sena is no pressure to countenance these two capable of committing qUi'te a lot of trouble 'demands thil t Bamala must' be removed and c'ommitting violence, and the Govern and Ribejre must be removed. rite should ment, in our opinion, has never sought' of Dot agree to these under any circumstances. confronti~g these communal. forces. There is a. gentleman there in Maharasbtra, in As far as the implementation of the Bombay, Bal Thakare, leader of that Shiv Accot4 'is concerned, I have noth inK to Sena in Bombay, who is publicly declarin, lay because l do not know what is the in public meetings that Hindus should now Government's. thinking on this question at get ready to arm themselves for the present. A~cord~ng to Mr. Bholanath Sen,. religious war which is coming. The tbere is really no problem. There are only speeches are being reported. Is anythiOI two problems out'ltanding .according to him. being dODe about it 1 Is any Rtep beinl One is being looked after by ,the Desai taken. against him? Will you allow anyone Commission and the other one going to a of us to go round and make speeches like 'tribunal. So, there is nothing to bother that that tbey should get themselves arnlcd about. lust wait for ,the Award and the because a reI igious war is coming ? But ftndings. But· I do. not think that is the the Maharasbtra Government arid the way tha.t the Accord is being looked a t by Central Government don't bother to tato the peo,ple there. any. steps against this kind of an open instigation and' incitement to commuD'aJ Yamuna-Sutlej canal, of course. is a violenc~~ ... (1,lterruptlon8). very biS i~sue wi'th the pepple of, Rary.ana. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS : 'Afraid t 1 ,1 ther now tha t~e work, o~ the cana) to toucl1. I i., to some extent. improved. It was at a standstill at one ti1:1le. We should be told , SHRl INDRAJIT GUPTA: 'Of cour.t what is the 'Position on that. But in any afratd.' to touch because the powerfuJ '\,otm," case 1 alfee 'wi~b, many speakers here that "machiBC is there of tbe Shiv Sella \n politioal l'Joblcm tllcan$ a p(oliti~al Mallarasbtra, . DI'IJU.IS,foll~ R_ :' It..C'II' KAR.TIRA 17. J 948 (SAKA) IJI'Cliilltin .I~ : R,~,nt ,Spurt In Terrorist Attl.. Spurt III Tenorlll A.Cli.. ville; tn Punjab and vit(ei In Punjab' and other Parts of the other Part,' of the Country Country, SHRl SAIFUODIN CHOY/DHARY 'screen~DI should' be dOD~. I,. 'read tb. t; And they are aftel power ~ , somebody-some Minister-has ' said these people demand 'release of the' Jodhpur SHaI ,INDRAJIT GUPTA ,They, detenues. Do they dot know one amona depend 'on their' vdtes so many times for thenl is such wllose hand is there in tbe' . election to 'the Bombay Corporation. and Mukts'lr massa-care? If there is such a ill' the Assembly and this ge'ntleman is . pe,rson, at... least I do not plead his. I,"eleaae. going around. PreviouslY his target used . But are all like that? I am . told' there are to be an non .. Maharashtrian6 living' in people there :who were body guards of Bombay who he .said should be 'driven out' " L.ooB()waI, his, own body guards. They are from Bombay and how, he bas tamed his also' locked -up there. There are people tune a bit and has started saying. that . whD are 'ewadars of the temple. They are Hindus must get ready,·for religious war- .a)so lo'cked up there. There are somo wbich is coming. Is thi& kind of thing . womeh ther:. At least some screeniDI going to be permitted? If this is Your should be done. Those among them about attitude towards him, we can understand whom you have got concrete evidence or your attitude towards other peopJe also. allegation, you do not want' to release 'If You go on' appeasing these elements, ~ them, do Dot release them. I am Dot for there is DO way of tackling the Panjab their release. But. they are not all people ~itua\ ion or any other situation. like that. ·Wt.y do you not screen 1bem ? I think some irritants arc there in the So far as the Army, deserters are mind of the ordinary' sikhs. I am not concerned, I should say rather the Govern. . talking about these extremists and terrorists. ment' or Army bas been a pretty aeperous; To the extent possible those irritan~s from what Sundarji has told Barn,ala and should be sought to be removed or to be ..,the figures that have been published about minimised. One is the question of those , the number of deserters who have been who were Victimed here, on massacre in r!'!iostated in the Army and more of' them Delhi and other places in November, 1984. are going to be reinstated, I think it is Why shou~d only the Sikhs be irritated unprecedented in the military bistory. No about it? We are irritated. 'I am irritated Army does that. No army 1reats deserton by it. in the way. we are prepar~d to treat· tJ\em now. Well, if you think it is all rilbt a. SHRI BHOLA NA TH SEN Supreme the Army morale will not be effected by Court has granted stay. that, fine. So there is n othins . bere 1)o,w a bout wh ich they can complain. SHRI INDRAJIT aU'PTA Supreme Court has granted stay aud the Bn'quiry ,say Report of 'the Commission has been totally Finally I will '\bout economic incentives and all tpa1. My friend hal supJ)res~ed. It is not to be totally spoken a lot here. Well, of course thi. made' public" Tbousands of. people are applies, partl, loing about in arid' around' Delhi whose argument to, all of lb, true th~t the PaQjab hands are stained wjth blood of innocent country. Jt. is farmer victims here. Not a single bair ,or' his is .. has always been rather aftluent-mucb being touched. B'ven compen$ation has not more am uent than in any othei ·parta of been fu,ly p~id' to these victim~. ~ Why' the country especially parts ftom whicb we ~me. We cannot compue the pover.t, should an theBe things be held up like that •. I do. not ~un(ier8tand. You are s;ving fuel of our farmers' with the affluence of Panjab to .the extremists. You arc . helpiDI tbem . farmer. . But wby hal it taken root th". by instigating people by' doing this -kind of in Panjab 'and why the bulk of Sikh- youth , things. has lone with tbem ? Terrorists Jl\OVementl ste there in other place. a~o but every. A~ut Jodbpur detenue6~I, do ..Dot' .where they are noc c:;onoected ,with k90w ' who they" ar~ ? 0 At least. $Omo secessionist ~uiand. Evorywhere they, arc' 355 Dlscu,sslo" R, : R,e.t!~"t ·NOVBMBER. 18, 1986 D iscu.\ slo1l R, : Recent Spurt in Terrorist Acti'" ' 'Spurr In Terrorilt deti- . ville,," In 'Punjab and vities in' Put.fjab aitd ' other Parts 0/ tlte other Parts "of the Country COUll try [Sbd Indrajit Gupta] SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : About this last, conditiPn; of course, 1 have no not so intimately connected with incitement' ' confid ence that our· Government' will be as it is in panjab. -So, You ~cannot deal able to do· anything. It is becaus,e unfortu.. with a stereotyped Way., , ·nately 'their basic economic po.]ices and ali that are in conilict with the necessit)' to I would conclude by reminding the bon. fight against these imperialist forces.' You Minister-I am sure he' must have read cannot go on wooing them for economic ,sottle ClasSical 'histories of armed insurgency purposes and want to fight th'em ·politically. movements in many countr~es. The You want to keep thelll out 'of the. cQ,untry experts' in this field say that for arm~d . and you bring! fellow like ~einberger in~ursency movement to be ,able to. sustaIn here and yoU 'treat him like a royal guest. for a considerable ,period' of tim~, there. This way, it cannot be fought. are five or six basic cQoditions which must be available to thetn. Otherwise that But at least on this question, 1 will say insurgency movement will collapse. One is 'that on tbe question of border being that those feHows must feel that they' have ,sealed, 'I agree with Gen. Sparrow that got a ca~se for which they are fighting. In the sealing of. the' border, international this case, the cause :is probably th~ .border betwet!D India and Pakistan can be Khalistan, a separate State, which in any done and shou'la be done by the . Army. case the entire country, Parliament and The Army is not to be used for internaJ law ali, Parties have ruled out ca'tegorical1y andt order purposeS: I am totally against under no circumstances, we going tbat are that. But a3 far as i.nternational borders to agree to any such secession. But it is between the two countries are concerned, there, i. cavse which is 'still motivating at it is the Army which must make a more least large numbers, of ,people. ' Secondly. intensified effort to seal the border so ·that they sho~ld have a charismatic lead~r . the s~nctuary which is open to th,e . There was a 'charismatic leader. But he insurgents is also taken away from them was killed inside the Golden Temple. 1 a'nd also the sources of gettir g repJenish don't think they have g.)t' aoy single ments of their arms supply. This is going charismatic leader now.' fhirdly. they must to be a long fight. It liauJd not be over, in . have a~ arms supply, root for supply' of a .day or two. Por Years to' come, ,the . arms and the' abiUty, to' replenish those tc!crorism may live with us and we have to arms.. whenever necessary That they, live with it also., But we must Jeel that we 'have got. Fourthly" they must have a are graduaIJy getting the upper hand. We hinterland 'where they can retrea~t if are overcoming them. We do not want to ne~8sary, and get sanctuary and shelter, 1£ go, on reading every day all this long list of nece4isary. That they have got. You have casuafties of innocent people. Therefore, to plug these things one.by*one., If you Sir, I think, the Government '_ now, in can plug the sources of their arms s~pply, conclusion, I wi11' say. should not simplY if YOU can plug their access to the, sanctuary try to pass the, buck, every time on Bamala ac~oss the border~, then, two other very and say, it is his job to do it.. He should vital conditions which sustain. i~surgency .be stronger; he should" be firmer. Of wili be removed. CQurse, he should. I agree. But it is not his . international. border. It is our The other one, of course, is what many international 'border. Pakistan has to be friends hn,ve ~eferred to, thouah Mr. Bhola dealt' with by the Oo'vernmetJt of India, Nath Sen do~sD't like H, i. e. .external not only by Barnala. The' defence of .tbe assistance, incitement and collu~ion wh~ch b~rder is not only ,Barnala's job. it is ~be :is, being given by imperialist forces wh\~h job of every Indian in this country. There-. are hostile to our country. fore, the Government the Central Government, the Government of -,India SHRI BHOLA NATa SEN' ': 1 did n~t , should tell us that what PQUtioal. s\pps 8& say it with reaard to Punjab. " well as seeu.rit)' measures they ate goiol, .to l>lscusslon ife .~ lltceizl' 'KA~TikA' 2', 1'908 '(SAKA)' b/~cu$,ion Be :, h.ecent Spurt in Tfrrori5t Actl- Spurt III Terrorist ..feli· vltl~8 In Punjab and r/tles ,in Punjab and otlter Parts of the other Parts of the Country COlfntry take or thinking of in a more urgent', terrorism' in Punjab are the non.'imple. fa!hion so that ,this thing can be properly mentat'lon of punjab accord signed b~tween , -I 'l'III I', ~ dealt with. It is only then thut the general . tbeJate Longowal and the Prime Minister public in this ,country will' be roused to Mr.. "~ajiv Gandhi. They are . "labouring supgort .these measures of the Govern-' under an iHusion. I, fail to understand as meri--:not by simply. 'saying that tru,st our to why this sort of flimsy argument hps Prime Minister; 'he is, always doing tbe 'been advanced. ProbablY they have not. tight thing, so' you ,bould' line up bohi~d. settled the" 'Punjab accord with 11 items him. We are prepared to 'line up behind and out or: those 11 items, there are on1y . anybo~y who is really serious in this fight 2 which' are matters in dispute." One is again&t the c'ommumil' forces,., ,divjsive territorial that is, the transfet" of, Cbandi... ' 'forces. Why line up '1' We' win all lead garh to Punjab and area in li~u thereof together. But' now, I think, it 'is the' to Haryana. Government which' is Jalging behind and they are losing the c·onfidence 'of the people So ,far as the transfer, of Chand igarh is alt'ogether, because of what is happening concerned, Haryana has categorica))y said in the Punjab. Therefore, (his .is the "Let Chandigarh go' to P,unjab. n, We did' common issue on which we are ~ll united. not saY' any way ~ But the area in lieu But there is no, use going on· repeating thereof shouLd be given simultaneously to - that. Let us 'at least decide what to do Haryana; and 'w~at concrete meaSures to take together and then W~ will see, realty whether the Government is serious about , In' this connection, I would like to this matter or only wants to' use it for draw the attention of tile House and" some ::>ther political purpose. I hope, he particularly because man~ Members are will respond. new to this House that Shah Commission has given the whole of Khiltag vifJaaes of Tehsil Abohr and Fazilka Haryana SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA to includ,ing Chandig~rh. The late sant (Karnal) : Mr. Chairman, 1 have listened Fateh Singh threatened to immolate' him with rapt attention to the ~loquent spee~hes self.. Madam In. Gandhi modified that of Shri Thampan Thonlas of Kerala and award. the modified award, it was laid several Members of the Opposi tiqn which In down that' Chandigarh will go to ~unjab are, cf course, stirring. and 114 villages in will go - to Haryana. This was decided about 15-16 years back. Shri . Thampan Thomas laid stress on rather Now, why this terrorism on the fact that the reasons for terrorism are more~ this point in the last three to four yea{s? more psychological, and econoqti~. He T'here was Janata regime for yearS." laid stress upon'it. But the questlon of 2t There was Akali Government in Punjab. unemployment as a reason bas crea~ed, could safely implement H. The some sort of dissatisfaction _and frustratIon They, only question ls the transfer of the area in the mind of the 'youth, in· lieu' of Chandigiuh. A. K. Ma·tbew Commission was appointed" as desired' bY" May I have the to ask. him a temerity the AkaJi Government.· That Mathew . question 7 Ha$ the economic and Commission identified .83 villages in the p,sychological problem risen now or has it towns of Abohr and FaziJka but be was' risen in the last three or ,four' years ? not in, a position to allow the t~ansfer on Where has the reason' gone? One thins the gr~und. of contiguity. He suggested , more' is that there is, lack of nationa \ the appointment of another 'Commission; leaders~1l> i~ tbe c'ountry. I simply quit Venkata,ramayya Como'lisslon was appoiri-. ,there, nQt a:r.gue. ted. 'That Commission has again be16 . that at least 70,000 acres of land shouJ(l' The Opposition has ,also been laying be given to Haryana in lieu of Citandigarh. Stress on' tbe fact that tbe reasons of Haryana agre~s to it. Jt is a question of $.b 1l~"uiOlt it, : .Rlc,,,' . NOVBMB:aR. i.", 1,9 8,6 'DlsCtuIIQn ,Re : Rlcent .360. . SpMrl ill, r.'ro,',~ Acti-. Sp"rf i~ T.errot'i~1 Acti· "tI., in P"'d~b :tlM vitiel, lit' PUlijab .lInd - other P~'t3 of 'tile· dlhef! PtJr.ts oj .the Ct1""t" '" . - . C~untry , [Shd Cbiranji L~l Sharma] 'POrtion of S\,L Canal -that is half of it has to be built by. Punjab The cost' will . identifyinl those villages Compt~sing - conle tb 1[lot less t.han Its. 300 crores.· 10,000 acres. Desai Commhsioll'. bal Haryana has already advanced a _suo) of been appointed. Is the Government.o!. about· Rs. 145 crores. We' have actually . .. . IDcSla to 'be· blamed '1 Wby should 1he -faith in the Punjab OoveTnment. W~ have Opposition or anybody have reasons to just been very much hankering on -it. We Im·ell 'a crain of salt in the bona fides' of have been pressing the Central Govern the Central Government'? Even' if tbe ment Thes! art tbe two aspects of the whole of Ha'ryant. is liven to Punjab.' do, . Punjab Accord which the .hone Members 'YOU think this will satisfy ; the terrotists '1 . (rom tbe Opposition know. Not' only that· N.o. Because they are not clamouring for .·Even Mt. Barnala sometimes ,back said Chandigarh. They are cl·amouring . for that non· implementation of the Award is something more and Dotping less than tbe m(Lin reason. Khaliatan is going 10, gag their mou~h. They are not hankering on these petty matters. Thep. it the second aspect is the .. Sir, a t the risk of repetition, 1 would water dispute and non-implementation of again submit that th: terrorists will not be the ,SYL Canal. So far 8S the water . satisfied. They mean som~thing very big . dispute is concerne4, the matter is pending and at any cost-come What may.even 'if . . before the justice Eradi Commission to heavens falJ, Govern'ment of India or the decide and to verify 'the share of water Indian Nation i~ not going to allow any that hal to So to the two States. But for sort of cessationist activities to succeed or the completion of SYL Canal is concerned" to part with an inch of land in tbe it W!\s categorically laid' down in the country. What is the solution'? H on. llajiv.Longowal Accord that the Canal friend Shri Jagan .Na!h Kaushal has shan be completed-the . word is 'shall be' suggested it. We have been, able' to }liandatory. by the rSlh August, 1 ~86. 'identify that. We know who they are. Today's interyicw of Sbri Ribeiro says that it is not the poor who are terrorists; Sir, 'I am talking Oil the floor of the It is the rich. The terrorists in Punjab afe HOUle on· the' J 8th of '"November. . 1 S th well. connected. They are well. connected AUlust 'has passed and no schedule has' ftn9.ncially, they are well-connected been fixed DOW. ~ho. is responsible for politicaJJy and the assistance to them. tbat '? The implementation of the Award Who is to lay their hands oli them. This,' and puticularly this Hem of ct>mpletion is the responsibilily of thOe Government in of' the "SYL Canal is the responsibility, the Administration. It is. the Gov~rnment"s « motal rospon,ib"ility, legal responsibility of responsibility to maintain law and order_ the Punjab Oavernment. We have been It is the State Government which has' to cryina boarse tbat we smell a grain of ~91t do this job. So far as tbe Central Govern. in the. bonafides of the. Punjab Gove.rnment. ment is concetned, the Central Government Tbey d.o not mean to do it. . Even Punjab is straining its .nerves to strengthen the ' •. Dot>wiUinl to agr~ to the take over ,of hands of the I)arnala Government. 'f.hey the Construction of SYL ·Canal by the .are giving aJl.possible help and assistance Centre. Who is to be blam~d ? Is. the . whenever demanded. Th.e whole, House is 'CcJ)tre to be blamed '1 The. Centre is ready' one on that point that' the hands o.f the and willin& to do it. . We- also accepted B'arnaJa Government should be streng- and we also suggested it. We are pressing thened. We sUPJ)ort it. .We are not for upon this demand. But· the Punjab this weak·kneed ,policy. Recently our Government says 'no'. Who is to be Finance Minister, $hri V. P. Singh, bas . 'blamed '1 Haryana had buitt its portion of taken lhe bold. .step of. conducting ra.ids on SYL Canal to' the length of i 60 krhs. big business houses, on. the houses ot' more lball 10 years back. We spent Rs. 28 bigwigs and also big officials' who were ,Q'orea " on tbat. Now the remaining c,?rrupt and unearthed the bla08' (S.A.tA) Dlscu;,lo" Re ': R:ec~"t '~6 2 Spurt tIl Terrorl", 'Actl:' . ' ',Spur,t in Terrorist Aell.. vtt~e,. in Pun)alJ and vrtle, in Pu"jab and ' otheir l'arts of ,h,e other Part, Qi the Co'!n,,,,, " Country that was lying hidden; Now. what are the ,MR. CH4;IRM.t\N :' Pl,ease conclude. ,hid.eouts or' these 'terrorists ,1 Bil' farms are ,the h.deouts or the terrorists. Murders' SHRI CHIRANJI LXL SaARMA: 1 are cnmmitted~ at(oei,ties are perpetrated, have so many things tQ say_ B~t since you" dacoiti~s ',nd robberies are commilte~ have been ringing the bell time and again,' , ev'ery day. They are not, short of funds I have to re~;ume my sea't. O'hel~ise,. I because banks arc' there to provide'" them would have made ,some «uggestioos. I money. They loot the banks. They, are w~nt' to co'oclude, by saying that we should not short of funds; 'tbey are ,getting' funds' strrengthen the, hands of $hri, Barnala. We not only from abroad but from within. 'are, all one on this' point.. both' the Opposl~ After commi l ting murder or robbery or tion and the ruling Party. But at the same. dacoilY, they safeJy move away on cyc1es time, in all humility, I would suggest that 'or on foot or on mot'or.cycles. They are Shri Barnala should be bold e~ougb to living in Punjab only \; they hide themselves create confidence of security in the minds in some nearby hideouts. Ca"\tt the police of the people living there. Also migration lay their bands on them·-j Every d~y we of tbe Hindus which has started CroRI there hear news' from radio and T. V. that such should be put an end to, alld ~hat will and such man has been murdered and ail be possible o(lly if they are able to regain efforts are belng made to trace the culprits. ,the confidence of those who have left But no cne is arrested. Even if they are PunJab by bringing them back. arrested, what happens? As per the iDfor- [Trans/ation] matioo given .by the Govern'mcnt of Punjab, 1369 persons have been arrested *SHRI P. SEl.VENDRAN (PeriakuJam):, and 69 have been killed in encounters with Mr. Cha'irmati, Sir" on behalf of the the polic.e. Now, do you think \h~t these A. I. A. D, M K. I wou1d· )ike to place 136) persont are going to be convicted 1 my views before this aLgust House on the Wno will have the guts to stand as witne3S terrorists activit ies in Punjab and other against them 1 Th,ey will have honounible parts of ,the counl~Y which bas been tabled aquittals·and no t only benefit of doubt. by Shri Bhattam Sriramamurlhy . What is the result of those detentions ,1 • Law must take its own courSe. Who is to Sirt this House. has 'discussed on many enforce the Jaw? The macQinerY that is occasions . on the terrorists activities in. competent to do it. And it is the Punjab ,Punjab and other par1S of the country. Government. We do not d:>ubt the There is no second opinion in condomnins sincerity of Shri Barnala ••• ' the People engageQ in these activities. , This opinien bas been expressed in unequ i. vocal terms in this very Hpuse. MR. CHAIRMA~ : Please conclude. 16.36 brs~. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA: [MR. DEPUTY .. SPEAKER tn the Chair J But 'lea-pulling is done, from within the Party itself. After the elections, there Sir, in the last few years, our country has was one Akali Dal. There was no. BaCial been enqulfed with terrorist activities and group of Longowal group. On 'the qUe stion because ,of these activities, peace and of change of alignment of the ,SYL canal, unity of India are in great danger. The you must have read the statements of ~r. DemocJe's Sword is handing over the very 'Tobre and,Mr,,·Bad~l ; they were respon-. existence of Democracy in the country•. sible for inspiring and' instigating the They have not spared late Shrlmati Indira' agitators for changing the alignment of the. 'Gandhi who had alwaY$ been working fQf SYL canal. _It is the people of 'the Akali the en1·aneipation·· of the downtrodden • . Pa~ty hetHied by Mr.' Badal whc) want to ,The .terr orists~, did not spare our beloved' see th~t Mr. Barna.ia does n.ot succeed ..•.• late Prime Minister, Shrimati--. Indira *the speech was orilina,lly delivered in Tamil. , ' I' " 1tI.' ~ .... ) r ~ ~ '~ ;: '"' ~. !. ,1 Di~cu \.~lon Re : Retent 1>t~cUJ$io;, Rt : Rece", 36.4 Spurt in Terroriit .licIt.. 51'u,,'.J;" Tet.ro,ist Act;.' 'Vitie! in Punjab a"d vltles in Punjab and . other Parts 0/ th, other Parts of the Country . Country [Shri p_' Selvendran) . diate action. Some fort'ign countries have '. been helping the terrprists by aivinS 'arms. Gandhi 'and' they shot her dead. Now, and ammunitions. and also financial help. Santo Longowal was striving hard fot( The SAARC organisation. should request bringing peace in .Punjab and· .he too was' some· of the 'countries Hke the UK, Canada Dot spared by· the terrorists.. They gunned and ,ether countries . that they should' not . him down. Likewish, the l)irecter G~neral allow the. Indian terrorists to take shelter of Policet Shri Rebeiro had a I,)liraculous ..in \h~se countries I WGuld plead ~ith the escape 'from the bull ets (\f the terrorists. SAARC ,organisation that they should The 'retired Army General of the country, request th~se foreisn countries' to thi.s Shri'· Vaidya. was also shot dead in his effect. nf'tiv~ place. Shri 'Lalit Maken, Memb'er of tbis House had -also become the victim I have also one· more point to to the bullets oJ the terrorists. Throughout make in· this august HCluse. 1·be Govern the year, the terrorists with the sound of ment.' should instruct· the Education their g1.)n shots celebr ate their brutal Departments in aU' the States that they actions I,ike the. tDeepavali, fun~lion. shOUld include lebsons re.garding the' then in O'andhian ideals 'in the schools and colleges Sir , in th~s connection,, I wouJd like to so that when the children grow, th.=y will submit in this House that OUf Revolutionary become tile responsible citizens of the leader, Dr. M. O. Ramachandran, h~s been country. The same ideals of Mahatma closelY cooperating with the Centre in the Gandhi were also preached by the great matter of pulting an end to the terrorism in leader of the then Ch ief Minister of Tamil the country. Now, the time has come that . Nadu, Shri Annadurai. He believed tn and we must decide on how to combat the stressed on the rig~t to vote ,and his party terrorist activities in the country and put an entirely depended on that principle.' ,end to them once for all. We have to instill in the minds of the YQunger genera Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, terrorism can . tion the necessity of marching on the path be cotnpletly eschewed by the preaching or' of peace and non.violence. the Oandhian ideals. It would be a shame for al"Y Indian to sympathise with the If has' been amply made clear that the terrorists in the country We bhould not Police offiCials themselves were in nand for forget that we got independence by' follow the heinous murder of late Shrimati Indira ing the path of non-violence, tha tis, Gandhi and also the attempt on the life ~Ahimsa'. 'Only with the cOnlpJcte removal of Shri l\ebeiro. Therefore, the Govern- of terrorism from 'the country. will we be . . ment should taKe imlnedia te action against able to follow the true ideals of Mahatma those police officials having connection' with Gandhi. For this, we will all rise with one the terrorists. The Government should take " voice against· terrorism and the 70 crore necessar) steps illlmed·iately in order to . peopJe of this country with 140 crore hand.s strengthen our long border line bet~een will fight unitedly against terrorism and we India and Pakistan so that· the ' tra~ne~ will never fa1,ter in safeiuarding the terrorists from· Pakistan do .not, cross the co\1ntry 9 s un'ity and integrity. border and c~me to India. [English] M'r .. Deputy.Sp~aker, Str, yesterday, in the. SAARC Summit , meeting held at SHRI SALEEM I. SHER VANI Bangalore. lhe leaders of the Seven Pnrti (Budaun) :. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir. I am 'cipating coun\ries suggested for stefd 3ctio~ grateful to you for' giving me this opportu .against . terrorism. Tbis is a wcl,come nily 10 speak on this burning· issue. This suggestion,. At the same time, 1 w~uld '~ike issue has 'been· discQssed .a numbec of times to point out that to root out terron.sm in this augusf House and the concern of the completely, .the SAARC should take imme:- Members has been unanimous. ~ 6 5, D iscussloll Re' : Rlcent ',KAltTtKA 2fi•• 90S' (SAKA) Discussion Re : Recent' Spu-rt in T,,,orlst Act{~ " Spurt in Ter,.orist Acti. vitle8 In' Punjab and vltles-' in Punja.b and ,.·ther Parts 01 th, other Parts of the , Cou'n~ry Country' , Sir, terrorism has ,become an inter,natio and have found him, in okay .condition. ' nal menace ·and natiopally 'also we are When I asked them ,why 'they did not infortn fac,ing the same law ,nd or4er p~oblem. It the police. They said if they inform th, i~ 'a threat to a lawfully established govern... police the boy will ·get kilJed because some. , men~ in a secular democratic set up,; '1t' is ,: body from the 'police will go and i,nfo'rm 'time. that Oovernm,ct,nt brings about wider' the,criminals about it. ' This aspect has ,to powers to. curb- this threat. ' be l'eviewed. It people have Jost confidence in the law enf.orcing agencies then ,the Sir'\ the mcst serious aspect of terrorism situation is very very serious. This'is only is that it is not possibte without connivance •. because we. hear of certain conni.vance . .It is' not possit;le without support-the bf"tween police and certain local power support may be from a neighbouring' lo.bby •. 'I think one way we can solve this countrY, local people, political parties, ad problem is by having jnte~State transfers ministration or.police personnel. It has to as we have in the Central s-ervices. Why have support to exist. This a,~pect has ·to . cano't we have 80-9"0 per cent police· be considered very very seriously. We· have personnel even at the constable level from to brjng. about laws. No matter who that different States 9'0 that they 9re not affected person is or to which party he may belong, ,by power lobbies~ They would go on with if he is s:upporting terrorism then be should their work in a dedicated manner. The , be dealt' with extremelY strenly. role of PAC has come, in for severe . criticism\ T~ey have lost their credibility.. Sir,. there" is difference ,between If the army is called, BSF is called or the crime nnd terrorism. Crime, can be because 'other forces are called, the same people of economic disparity. It nlay be because . w~lcome tbem. That is because these are of property dispute, etc. but the only pur the disciplined forces, and the peopJe bav.e rose of terrorism is, to de-stabilise the confidence in' ~hem that they would help in Government. The only purpose of terrorism solving the situation. ~ut PAC goes into a is to build a wall between the leaders and plund'ering kind of adventure wherever tbey the people. So, we Jllust take stern steps go. I personally saw that when the riots to curb tbis. took place in -Al1aha'bad. I visited some bouses and found that thi~ force had J,. broken windows,. broken bulbs, they Sir, the' other day there was a discussion smashed 'TV , screens and pushed the _ on the:" lapses in the Prime Minister's refrigera tors. It is not the job of P A~ to security my friend, Sbri Kumaramansalam conduct searcftes and do this. 1 would, made a very valid point, . namely, that·a therefore, suggest that ei ther this unit' peoples' movement mus.t start in Punjab. should be disbandea or they should gQ in Even Mr. Indrajit Gupta has said the same for an intensive training for discipline., We .thinS today that WOe' start putting words into sho'u'ld send only that force which shoulc:\ action. We should get together and plan a he1p'to solve'the law and order situation. time-bound programme where the respon sibility is give.n to ~ach and everyone to go As far as intelligence agencie 9 are about it in the most sincere and dedicated concerned,. there is need to revamp tb.e manne,r. same. The job.of intelligence agencies i. advance that , , to giv~ information so '.the Sir, when I talk a bout ·general law and situat.ion can be taken care of in advance, . 'order situation I am 'pained to rehu~ this . not after. ·the. situi\tio~ that laken ap ugly incident that' took place in Btah whicJl I turn have 'sot 'to know recently. A kidnapping took, place~ The boy is of tbe,.age of .11-118 Sir', t~e Home Mjn ister has a very huge years. Some people caro.c· to .me and task ahead of him to f'olve these' problems. " narrated,. tb.s in~ident. They even' knew I would also like to say that some remarks where this ,boy is being held Some of tbe aga~nst the Government and against the h.on~· ,OO)"i relatives have -sone and QJet tbe boy Home Minister are uncalled for. We know ! 67·' .bi .cusslon ]f., :, R'tent DlseuJ$lDII R, :R~Ct"r 361' Spur, t" .Tt-rrorls' Acti Spurt 1ft Xerrdrls't ~cti~ llitles 'in Punjab (lnd vide$ . in Pu'njob (J.nd oth,r Part, of the . other Parts of the , Country' Country , , , [Slfrl Saleem I.' Sberv~ni] support of a section of the peO\?le, then' it , '" js not 'possible (0 meet this terrorism only that ',Shri Bufa Si.ngh has a large re~pot:l by law and order machinery, because those sibility on his shoulders. I' We know, he is' who support' -these. people do' not come God-fearing, dedi~ated and sincere person. l before the 'police or ~he' law e~forciDg who is icing ~bout bis work in a dedicated mSlchinery. " They remain -in the backgro~Dd manner. He baa our confi~eace' and. suPl'ort an~ YOU, cannot touch them with' weapon •. and I am &ure~ in the months to come, ,be' Therefore,oD that account, a political solu- will be able to solve the Punjab and the, tion is necessary. . 'len,eral1aw and 'order sit ualion to a large ' , , e~teDt. . I join issue wi,th Shri Jagannath Kaushal ~ when he said that 'we should -deal with the SHRI DIl~ESH GOSWAMI (Ouwahati): 'people ,who have supported the terrorists in Mr. Dep~ty .. Speaker, Sir, I am approaching the same mann~~ in which tlie terrorist, this debate with a slight hesitation and the have been dealt with. Now, if you kill h~sitation flows from the fact that I cannot one of these people, you increase, the claim to h'lve dir'ect knowledge \ about the number of terrorists, there is a 'gi'eater immediate happening of Punja b. Aftc( all, alienation. What is necessary it to look at 'We do not have a party there who can give us if from the political angle. Everybody has feedback, neither I have been to Punjab.re- said that Barnala should, be strengthened. Cently to have any first hand informtion ''about Yes. The fact remains that Shri Barnala the Putljab situation. But if 1 have taken has been &trengthened so far as arms and the courage to participate in this debate, it weapons are conce~ned. But· Shri 'Barnala is for two reasons. Firstly, the situation ha.s been weakened politically. Shri Barn~la 'in Punjub is causing a threat to the .unity is unfortunatelY today a politician: in whose and integrity of this country and whether . shoes nobodY would like to be. He is being . we belong to one party or to one region or accused by everyone; by Members of the the other, we all stand for the unity and ruMng party, and' even by the members. of integrity of the country. Seco~dly, I feel the opposit ion. The people in Punjab, ,that. sometimes a persbn at a distance, can those ,.innocent people 'who lost their lives have a dispassionate view of ' the situation their presents and family nle'mbers accuse than a person directly involved and to some hinl that be has ftbt been able to protect extent the alienation that we see in Punjab them. He has bem. accused by -his own today, )Ve ~xl'etienced in .Assam for the party coJleagues, fo.rmer colleague~ like last six years in the Assam movement and Shri Badal and company, who, I have come this has' ventured me to make some su~ to know, have unearthed the entire Sikh miasions here. history CJf hund~eds of years to find out that >; he is the greatest traitor of the Sikh people. EverYbody h~s talked in terms of two Therefore, today he is in .th~ most unfortu. solutions, one solution at the level of law nate position.' ~e' must be given political ' and order through arms and the other a strength. What Political strength eould be p~1itical solution. I think both are impor- given to Shri BarnaJa? First political tanto After aU, there are two kinds of ~trength that you can give 'to Shri Barnala terrorists, one an individual terrorist, who is to ",see that the Punjab Accord is imple. does t'he act of terrorism for his own' mented. Shri Bho1aD~th Sen spoke in such benefit or for the sal.e of vengeance and terms that the Accord bas ,been impJemeo(ed be is constantly on the run from the law, 'except for tJ'ae' Chandigarh issue boundary enfor~ing machinery as .we:} from the society issue. ~t after alJ, for the people and he can be trapped comparatively easily of Punjab 8Qd for the pepple ,of the enticO' The second kind of terrorists are thoset who, Sikh ~ommunity, transfer of ' Chandigarb do it for a cause. whetber we approved of it , is tbe 'nlost' ':" em,otive issue. And or not, and theY get 'tbe support.' of a 'if the transfer of ChandJsarl\ docs Dot ,take sect ion of the', people ~nd wh.en some place. people of Pu'njab will never ·take it ~~J'r.orist.· or 'a ,roup of twroriats ,et tb~ tb~t the A~rd baiJ been,. implemeDte~. ~ . . l. .. , ,"9,' 1J1~~'.'fR:e,::,If_itt ~IlTlkA ,11., l,t08,(SMA) ·J)I"""I,,~ .bit W 31jf , , ' '"SPIl,~t Iti"l'etrmrlli" Ac;/.' T .' " ,8pl(rl''''" ',Tel'NJrlll Atl'. , " ,vltl.8"'I~' PiII}fII;J,·tiIttI, ' '/tle8 lit "'.-.Ja. lind oflie, Ptirt$ '0/ ilte " , '" ' , 0'''''' Palt, olth. ", Oouni". ',' - Country , ,N~~" there' w~r.e _tWO' CummiteioDs"' .. !'mp~emeDtinl,d~~ 'PuDjab A~ord auel' b.: the M.thew Comdllssioo,.;and .tb.~ Velikata .. , .,:bal,no point to anawer it. ramaj~b . Commission. ] feel that b(\th of ' ! tbem ba.v~ run away 'from ,their' duties. The , . The' ',other, point' 11 ' reaardiol the Venkatar~tnaiah Commission'$ duty 'was to identify the a,reas whi.ch"are t.o be trao$ferred' J~dbpur ,detcnus. Sbri Kaushai 1P0ko about ,tJ:te rule of law. M,ay J. uk him ai' ~~ Haryat:'af He lla.I' riot d~D~ it~ He said, .·to where does the 'la Vi ,exist· if, .tbe ,youth L~t ano~bcr Commission be appointed and khld,l~ do DO t ,involve me." , And then ~e detained ~ jail for more 'thau "'0 yean' , wnhQut any tr181? l( you violaled rqlc or he wrote a 100g th~sis on ,tbe integrity and unity of' this ·countrY. He was not asked law on this side" there win be' violatio. of ,the' rule' of )~w on the sid e ~o write a, thesis, on. the unify and intearity otbet too, If these, p~ople are; guilty, thon YOU mUit" of tbis c,ountrv t He is 'to 'give 70,000 acres> give i he grounds. I r you do Dot want tbat .of land ,to Haryana. But the question is they should st and 8 trial, beinl a pal'ticular ' wb~ther there ,is a Hindi-speak·ing contigu ous area to the extent of 70,000 acres tbat Act, by wbi~b at least their guilt' can be can be 'given to Haryana. If that cannot ' Inquired by a Commission. We ,do DOt bet and if this Jand of 70,000 acres was mind that.· ~ut can you for years toaetber keep them in' detention without- trial given in violation of Punja b Accord, ~)len Shri Barnala cannot stand. ' without offering them any grounds, without the minimum safe,uard,s that a dcmocl'atie ' country, is supposed to give to its citizeot , Therefore, a solution s~alJ have to ,be ,Of ev~n to non .. ciUzens '1 tbis is my .point. , found. Government of India 'cannot' say I am ne/t prepared to concede this pOW~t ' tbat we 'have. appointed a 'Commission. to the Government pf India ,that 'yOU can The Dasai Commisson, I am told'~ is not. for ~ears together keep people behjnd the cooper~ting wIth Shri Biunala.·, The bars with~u t trial. Try them. 'Try them O~vernment cannot say' that they have eve. by some extraordinaFY procedure. appointed ,a Commission a nd therefore Bring a piece of legislation. We will . tbeir task eq,ds. because it. 'is not· D :s'ai , support' it and get ,it passed. But do some- Commission's responsi.bility . to hrina peace thing. " and order to Punjab·. i" It is (he responsibility' of ~be Government, of' India and the , My third point is that today I wi'U· als~ Qovernment Punjab and the' erlUre ot appeal to the AkaJi Party, that at tile country, including cur.seives. lit' Therefor~, preSent tIi0lD:ent. There must Dot be any solution can be found: And I feel that' attempt to overboard Shri Barnala. At the one, solution can ,be attemptc'd Haryana "is same time, I also feel that Shri Badal nOt really ,in~erestedf if Shri Danai La) is 'Should Dot go further away frol'1l the to be believed, in getting tbe laad, but national m~i~$tream. After all, be bas beep ,their interest ,is in free How of wat~r. ' ~,m~derate leader in Punjab. A po\itica1 ,Tborefore, as ~ starting point, give them' attempt must be' made to brio, tbele people 40 ,000 ~c~es of land which Punjab . bas toge~her so tba t a' politically ., co~certe4 offered. Let them give the addit16nat' eftor~ .in: Punja,b is' pO,8sible. ' .' am9UD t for the, c~n8truclion ·of a capital •. " I Let them. be, assured of"water supply and Jet the process a8 to)lO'W we ,coan id~DtifY From~ ~hat.J have $eeD~ 1. have r-e8.IOIt'· ,2S"OQO ~cre'S of land, continue. BU,t in to complaint that' sbort-term ' Political t'hc' . :qte.n'time tran$fer Cbandfsarh to ineasures lead to· difficulties. Vou want ,fo. ;~' ,Pu.njab. 'Because 'jo:.tbat case, Shri Ba,rnaJa a talk 'with Sbrl G. M. Shah and lOt rid will ba.~e,8omethin8 ,political' to 'teU hie of an ejected ,FarOoq Oovetomopt'. people. He hp nothina politiCal to tell the yO'ur ;.,political, ,end.. Have j'ou '~_ • ,~eopt'e 'tl~w., What can be ~o , 'In :faet' f;le stat~ment by Sbl'i O. M. ,SbJh to,d.. ,_, tblt ,'I accu.sed or the: fact ·t~at tbe Punjab' he W~Dt~ t9 '0 back tQ " Accord'l Accord is ..'itself, a ~In out .and that the ., Tberefore •. do not take' decisions,' only (or Cantral Government, bas,: DO 'intelltioD" 'of .' poUtical eapedie~. You are new" 'talPlll . . ' " ·:'of. leai)DI ~ht ,Western 'boft1et. Why: not' ",th~i Ht)l~le' talk ' in terPlS of lealina' the Battern bcrder' ~ ,Voice, are not' raised' , , , bero:be.eause of ~lit~callreu0ft8. All 'tho$e partioa Who talk.. in tcr"" br sealing tho . TClin feel thi:> lI,oof of the peOple' of .weatern borders today, took d1vergem~IOI1' punjljb today or tb,e paroma aod relaUvcs Of . pn c~ini of in' filtrl\tioQ . from the'· those Innocent people who lost their lives Basterli''Bc.rder. We in Assam .clamoured for nO 'lilll. of theirs. They are oot 00 this' tor' ' lori&, 'roc sca.liaa the Bastem bor-d"r. side of politics of Punjab or 'that Side of . Wben we said, seal thk bord'er I you told .politics of .. 1!unjab. , 'J'bey want to live us. 'no'; there are 'human consi,deration for happ~ly with two, monel a ot food and whic:h.the border cannot, be sealed. The shelter.. 1 ean feel,tbe aBOny of the pareota. botder cannot be' sealed. Aftee ,all, let, 'US. I can alao feel' tlle alony of relative of remember, if you open up a border, you those who have lost th. lives in police' lose the country. Therefor, a defioit policy entounters, becau~e the son, might have in that direction was required, You brouaht gone wron,. but the parental affection a ro,olution under Article 249 and an. the ,never differentiates on' the ground, whether important subjects under' the Constitution th$ son bas' gone on right path or not • . have been taken' away from' the -$tate 1 can . feel the alony Of the people of . List to the Concurrent Li.t on tbe ground PUlljab who have fallen . apart today Dot . tbat 'tllere will be a piece of legislation because of their volition 'but because of 'O~ 'SecUrity Bill. Now, where is. the .piece the situation there~ I feel a concerted of leaislaUon 1 If the .jd(a of passin'g ,such . political, effort is necessarY .. aQd .when we piece - of legislation bas' l>~en given ,up, . listen to ~the .Home' Minj~ter's speech.. I why do the union government take all the repeat, .1 went throuah his speech in the powers into thcilJ1 hands 1 In fact, I.wiil Rajya SabhB' uptill now, we have not , "ubmil that, Oovt of India keep to. itself s~en anything that· there has been an the power of Legislation of. the subjects e1mpbasis on the political Bide of the .,which .ar~ in tbe domain, of state Govern- Punjab s.ituation. The entire emphasis is ment. Kind\y see that this resluotion is on ,the law and' order situation. I cao' revoked. The other point that I shall 'have, tell you that law and order by itself canoot . to make is that we. must also ist)late' Ule . lead tp, Q' solution of the Punjab problem tert,orists (rom tbe Jenera) people', of unless, loliticallY' we 'strengthen Barna)a Punjab; • unless Politically new intiatlve i, t~bn i hoP~~ that ~be, Home 'Mtnister, .bile replymg to thIS debate today, 'will give some I have seen, tb~ youtb forces in Assam indications of the new politic~l initiatives . for '.ix' y,ear&. 1 have seen that accusation that be 'wants to take on the Punjab to the you'tb 'forces, alienate them further situation. , from' tho. national ~ainstrealll. And the ' grellf~r da1;lger tb~t one copntry faces, is 'nol onlY' from the external aglr.,ssion or SHBI ,P. K. THUN'GON (ArUDach~lI e"ternal ' encouragement. ' but tbe greatest West): 'Mr. Deput)' Speaker~ :Sir, -almost itIIqer is "Ib~1I the y~ths 'gets, alienated' in e\tCtY Se'&ion, we bave been discusahla' fr~ the liatJonal malnstr.eam'l There,fore,. about ,pun_b. One of l.be seni9t c()llea- .. a ,politic.l effort must be made t,oisolate, lueS S~ri ·ltldtajit. Gupta said .that we .tJ:t~ tC'rori$ts', and youths· in ~Ienera) must ., have been disc~:~in,I' only I\nd tho . Ooye~n- • .sucated, a~~t tbi•• , 1 feel, tb,at w! arc ',ment', baa not ',b~n·;peJformln8. I wOll1d 'faclna . a crl'IS,. .Our Defence >expendltufe ,dis~aree firaUy witbJlim, that be"u8e of , il . bouo." to rl\O()~ ~p nex~ ',y~at ,heeauae ,t,n. d~~uilionl take~ p)ac:e' m tl~il a\lluat , or,' AW"'_CS ,al)d the .ato~ "bontb~. There 1:IOQIC, t~e moral~ .. Qf:not only the.'Go'lern- , is B .• tteme1l4ou& stUIlI .. 1ft ~ • e~,~om, . 11),eDt~.. l\«e4; .bu\. tho 1I'I9rale' of the ;"becaQ10 "wo'.ar,e sp~diDi a ·.1o~ on. '~nt'erQ~I' ·peop)e.t~' ,~,~on~di.t" ,t9rc' ,bate ,~e ;jfi . fj'~$tw ~ d~~~f';tAat~i,.':i'.' ,t'd"'(~.4k;«r bluu'~s;", Re : kf,Cflid.· 11 ~ , ,~ ,'", '~'iM,'t iii :T.t:~!Bt,~et'... .' ,: ,'.,'.' ,',,,_" ".' ':. " ' .,' ,-", " I,flrl ·in .-.ref~r.,st A~t'~ " .w~".s ltf,"IIltJob, '~'ltl' ' , ,,' -'itli~'1n P,lIIfItIb' ~': ":' . :olli_ '.rb '0J" tli'. ,~ other 'Parts ql i~e ',:: " CoUfltfy' , " CoulItry' . . biab- TJ:ds\'<~~r'te" d.wn .to the.. 'eiripIOy~es' .~ ,.~d which 'can' be a ba,sis 'for (tiIC~S8.0n·. . le~el ha.~'lone, up and ... tbat': 'ba'I, ::'broulbt Aftet" aU~ It· m'Qlt ·be on ,the basis of :retuU•• '1 shnu1d 'also lay ~~t .~tbi$ kind of discussion and 'a.c:ce.pfabilitY' of,. tb.fl 'Ccsllral. aitlcussion ins.tead" 'of having in everY Govertunent a'pd the Punjab" 'DQ Haryan.' Session here,", wei thoul. en~o~ra~e the OO\'ernm~D~~.~.•• .. (Interruptio1l') , Punjab Assembly tQ discu~s ,in . *he ,same manner because hefe is one Jioed s~lD. sakJ P, K.,THUNOON: The same tha t c:uttina' across' tbe part line .we are , thing t,' am trying' to eJu~idate,:', that aU against terrorism.' , because "of' the Centra)" Government's' tesponsibility that' this State Government 17-00 hrs. , 'should also be tak'en ioto full cODfidcn,co in' doing 'so, and, 3bo it should be lelal" And 'I ',think I am not very" sure how accord ing to the law of the liuld; that is n1any·times stich kind of discu.ssions, have way governnlent bas appointed a -commi. been taken plac·e in :Punjab As~embly. I . ssio,q: and since the commlss~on are think. my friend, Mr.' Ramoowalia win 'be working on it, 'I don't think his 'argument able to say 'about it. But :wbat I mean is holds too much wa,ter in tbis tegard. ," that the people 'at the state level should be- made an 81"d of. " Terrorism starts because of ,so many, reasons. I think may be because, of n,e&l~ot SHRI BALWANT SINdH, RA.~OO- , and deprivation. Clnterr.uptlons) 1 am ,aikins WALtA: During the last, one vear. two' abo,\lt. the reasons; sometimes it may bo "such discussion had taken" place iu the" becauce of strong armed tactics and' sOf9c., Punjab Assembly. ' times, too much leniency and m;smanaae-' ment.' Sinc~ there are somany reasons . " SHRI P. K. THUNGON: Thank. you 'al?o~t raising heads of' terrorisnl. 1 think, for your clarification and in support of there connot be any cut and . dry solution that "again today we are having this or method for containing terrorism. We discussion; and cuttins cross party lines, have much talked about terrorism, in we are all supporting that. the bands of,Mr. Punjab. What bas happened there bas been' , Barnala' .hould be' strengthened and discussed, re-discussed and discussed 'and terrorists should be w,iped out from every· one, has come to know wbat bas Punjab,' , ,happened there. J quite aaree that the dimension in Punjab is much biSber. But Just now, Mr. Oosw4lmt; bas vary the. terrorism ,is there in north eastern , eloquently. 'as usual, spoken about I ~on.. region in a vl~ry old form: the .magnitude :' performance of the Go'vernment about the . triay differ; tbe magnitude 11\ay be'less,-" Punjab Accord. 1 know him' very well. . but, we c,annot rule it .. cut. 'After aU, He is a good ftlend of' mine. fIe is a tc;rrorism is terrorism. whether' it ' is 'thotoulb democract and a strong believer because of economic reason" of because, • in the lood', rela tions·State. and Ccn:tre .of political reasons of b~cau~e of , emotio- relations. He' quite often talks about nal reasons;, whether, it, is in Punjab or State-Centr" relat~onship. I say this In wn~thet it j~ in Sri LaJ;lka or whether' iJ is connection':with the point be baa raised'. in' N,a •.ala.nd or Arunachal' Pradesh or What be implied was' that 'be' taken 'deejsion, rdanipur or '(ripura; terrorism i" ~errorism; · on a Certain amount ofiand, ",bether, Pun- that is why l think, we bave to have' a d.is- jab aarees. or not, whether' Haryana a,grees p~ssionate .look on, the c)u.es,of raising the :C)f, ,not: and should be handed 'over t,o "heads" of terrorism. 80 far I know \1-ow Haryana and, Cbaodil'arh 'sh~ul-d be handQd the sccc;ss.ionist movement and terrorism ov~r, .• .-•. . _.(In,terrup''''ns~ , arew in .N:a1alalld., , ' , , .. , ' , ," ,SHIt"- DINESH OOSWAMI,: What, I ',' It is ',an:,o,ld . story. No one ~n say' ,.' wa. ,~Y,in'I" perb~ps ,wa~" thet ,,' tQat"was ' ,tbact terrorism bas, been wlpcd (Jut from , . ~one st>lutlon which bad. como to mY "'1l'i11:4., ,N,aaaland till today .. As I .aid in ,the beaio" i>Lff;fI~'I911 i_, ~"i~c~" ' ,:' ~'B"~.!R.18t 'iit1'~,' :,D'$CJI$,'~~~'h': ,jeH'" , "', ,.,j) ,.' SPurt'in inrorl"t i4~(l-: ' , -.,:I,1n r~t"'I",A"~~, ' ,''Vlties, in;' PtmJiJI ,4.11 .' , "It'_ In PM/Ilb IIftd ' ' . P4tt$ Pm, :,01 ,the , ,othe.r tlllhI . , oth«, . 'Countr, . ,·Co."trl' ;, but, all ,the otli~ fi~l'ds. also have to, be ~ri P·•. ~. ~u~,anl , ., guarded', protect. Ther~rore. 1 Will· Uy .••. niDI,' lir;, .to", ,some ~xt.~nt, ·thc1~, "the,' :' teror.t.ism hat' come int.o beIng. b,ecausc . ~f (]J;lterfuptlons), the' atrona' hand' met·hods coupled With ..aist.nce ftom ,~utside th~ cO)lntry. Tbe,re- MR. DapUTY.SPEAKER: You' "foret we ~\\11 ,have to &6, that, ,what, k~nd. complet¢,. wbid up DO~. , of "eaton was there., Tllere was a kl~d : of aliu'eation of 1be people from' the maIn (Interruption,s) ln4lan tbougbt, . ,that is t~e rea~on wllY e"eb now a handful cf Nalas are' ·there SHRI p'. K. THUNOAN: . Let me still 81, extremiat~. '. ' Speak ,-about Arunacbal. Aruoachal bas 'been very peaceful' so far but YOU Comins to Tripura, my friend Shri Sa-i·' , might, have come a(.ross' recently that fuddin ChowdharY mentioned ~bout the the terrorists activity has f)tar ted there Dbo.performanc,e of the Oovernme'?-t tber~, also.' . Bu i I would lik'e to remind him th" t in . Tripura ,there is ePM Govcfnmeot and What [·would 1ike to urge the Govern-,' when there· i.1 .terrot~st, activity the CPM , mcnt i~ 'that proper' preventive' measures Oovernment B~YS 'Call C.RP, call,PAC. 'may please' be' taken bec811se or' the' calt this and that". 1hey do not act, and strategic and very sensi live area in tbey just' ask the Centr'al 'Government to Arunachal' Pradesh. Unless w~ take hel\), them. (Interruptiom) preventive trJea~Utes; if unwanted elements or terrorists enter here, it may create a MR. DEPUT y. ·SPEAKER ,: Do' riot much more bigger problem then in., Punjab , . interrupt. or elsewhere. , , SItRI p, K THUNOAN.: Tb:e Central For tbis I think the emotional Government has l?ecn providing tpem protection should 'be there, and also the assistance. I !'equest Mr Cboudhary not. to economic· protections' have also to be, Ql,amtain d9uble standards. .' &ive~. There are. instance, vere recenqy ween s~udents have ! tatted a peaceful . (In ter.rupt lbns) movement; they say that ther,e has been some kind action of bigb handedress from MR.. DEPU'1;Y.SPEAKER.: . Pleas'o the loral. governnlent.· If students c~~fude, the ti~e is over. " demonstrate peacefully ,and 'till~essary strong arm method it adopted for' 1heir 'SHltI P. K. THUNGAN: Mr. rights, tbey may probal>ly· start gettina DeputY.Speaker 18 ringing the bell a.lain more and more sympath from public and . and aaain (Interruptions) thus may enconnlg,e to become terrorists. , . May I request thel"boD. Horne' Minister' MR. ,DEPUTY.. SPBAKER.: Please to dtsmiss .the CPM Qoverment in c09,clude. 1 am calUf;l.g tll.e next' Spe:iket Tripura becau~,..tbey hav~ nQt been able . to curb ~c~., " ·1 S~RI P. 1(•.. THUNGON : . I would '. .(lnte'.tJ,tioRS) " like to conclude that,'as the spirit of the , \ ,',"/"t"'::" '.'. House, has..alw8}'s been, Jet us ·have. 'this , 'As '1"i~, th~~.~'t' '.eve.rcd t~a.a()ns , for . spirit· to' root out ... t.error'jsm from P~lJ~;"b ItOwtb or tetfotisai.~T'ber~ b ·~i.,~~~~~~I" in, or from arty part of ,tbe count.. )' .and· to. my commun.,y', if"One of . ~yO\1t' n"our'~ strengthen t~e' hands of 'the' Prime Mlnister . field is attack'e4~' by·~nbn.~~,~.;J8 D~"o'nlY and thr~ugh hitn to'stre'pgthtn'Mr~ Barnala·s tbat' field ',' you !;lave to'l~t~~t; that field, hanGS. . "" '. , \,""~'" 1 ' , ','" ..' '...... " 'l,1 :J~l$.,ifllt j .. ~.~ ·h"" tcAItti,tA 17, 1961;(8.4".4) :bJ.alltioll A, ~~ Aec,:"" ~'1'i" ,S,.,(;. ,Ter~Q'rU.t A~",· " ' . ", ':SjHi." In T.,rorl3t Actl. '. v.ltl~' ,In ,Punjab' and 'fti~s· In Pllnjab tiM .tlter "p'",t~ 'of th. " " , o,thr Pdtt, (If,he ' Count', Co~tr, ',' ('r'4",Io'llon] , ,', atandins crop' can easily observe lh'e perIODs ,'" .SHKI CHAQ.ANJIT SlNO'H ATHWAL outside' whereas a 'p'cr8on from 'outside {~opar)": " Mr. beputy.. 'Sp~aker, Si'r" i'f a 'ca.DJlot. lee a person biding In tbe field. M~~ , Depu~Y·Speaker, under'thes,e circumstances r!\tibnaJ' Person in, Punjab IS .. asked ~be "w'ou'I:..I, J~t~e t "'n' f . th b .. jf.' ,t, 't " ...' 141 A ,u.... 0 .. ow rom, e 011. ",... .IolnIS er q~est i on ,IlS to h QW .crr~rl&t aCtlVitl,ea. ~,ou ' .. wbetbcr ',any ~'~PF or .BSF jawan "'as 'ai80 be stoPl'rd, he wIll sImply say tb~t those kilTed ,or got nn ;,... t h'· th" ',t ' , . b h b d' _... t'· J db · "1" u s ... ra C tn 18 encoun er w' 0 ' ave ,ee~l, . ,eta)n~ lp 0 pur Jal io ·,which to sikb youths were killed. This 8boul~ be released Immcdiate)Y 8,nd general incideot shows that innoce~t eo Ie 'are amenslty g~anted to them. There was a, . , .' .p P · · th P jab 'd t b b'J' ' bei~1 k'lUed In ta·ke 'encounters In the name ,provi slon In. ,~ un ~cco~" 0 re 11 1 J- of terrorists I~ it not correct that. at Ouru ta-te the army deserters and It IS nece6salY, K'a Jand,'al Q haC f' 'b Id ' h 'b'l' ed 'd' l' 46 W. ~re, on erence was e ,t h at t h ey must b e re a: 1 It·at accor 109 y. and the Chi f M'j" t '. Sb I B'" ) ,The' Mishra, Commis~ion's' report be." e '. ~lS ,~r n 8r?a a was published and ihn~ those found guilty be prJcsendt " tba . s~nJor member) of bls Pba~ty .', . tl l ele at mDocent peop e were elng prosecuted.. Only tJ'len peace can .be resfored' kl'11 d ' I w~ a t t k·· b til 't' r In. _'p uPJa.. b 'Th. e pro.u·L.l em In. P unJa'b 18,. . " e t• " n , 0 ' "ow weer 1 IS a act , nJ d bI" or DO , not 0 y a. )~W and or er p'ro em, It is a problem. whi'ch. relates to the religious political cUltu·ral. and senti. Throngh you, Sir t I want to know ments of Sikh Community and th~re i~ need 'whetber th'e Chief Mjni~tcr himseJt consti to 'raise ',their -tnorale and win their conti·,. tuted a ' Conl.mittee cQmprising' 0,(' 3 dence. Before I say ~ny\hing else 1 would members of his cabinet to enquire into the like to draw the attention of the House to incident when a demand for ,judicial enq,u'iry a. statement 8iven by hon. Minister in RaJya was· mude ,8t that rlatform. If they think. Sabha. He selid. "They. have been espou~ing that our allegations are unfounded, I would the cause, of terl'orists by mak~g unfounded request '1bcm to publlsb and distribute allegations ~lbout the killings· of innocent among the Members copies of the report of persons by the police~" this ,3.Me~bers' Committee appoint~d b, the Chief Minister for the intormation of He further stated ,.hat thtire are certain hone Memb~rs so that people may' know person's in Punj:'lb who are raising hue and 1he truth. Cry' that innocent people, are being killed ther".~ Mr. ·pcputy.Speaker, Sir. I would The other i~cjdent regarding innocent like to cite two or three exampies of these kjilings i, that o( vjll~ge 'Verold. The ,k Uiings in Punjab. The first is about the bouse of one" Sbri Niranjan Singh an ex- innocent killings of 10 boys at Dera Baba -Serviceman is sit'u~ted on the road side aDd Nanak. All the youth who were killed at a short di'$t nnce is ) ocaled a nSF camp. ~hey' wel'~ wearing their ·GQtras. 'They' had . The' BSF. and CRPF personnel~ who .:Palsed loose' beards. ,It would like 't.o know~ if that way, took water and sometimes their they had come from· Pak istan were they food also at 'tbe' house of Stiri Niranjan wearIng ~beir.,turbans or not 1, With regard Siogb. Shr~ Niranjan Singh was about 85 to recoveries' made, from them tllere is a' years :old 'and ·his wife about 10-7S years.' contradiction in ·the siatem~nt8 of DO. DI0", He ba"d a' son' named Harmi.nder Singb .and .SP and sao differ from one, al10tber or a pregnant daught.er Wh() had come to her not '1 Also do the FIR nnd medical reports rather's hOuse' for the~purposc of delivery .. ' vcry or 'not? ,I know they very •. There are' Y0U mutt have seen tho newspaper 'reports ddqJtelY variations' jn their stateme!ltl~':' that on that fateful n.iaht a -brother aod bis ,If ~ccordlnl to hon. Minh~ter it. is an, si~te .. aa·id ~o be terrorists wer~ killed in' an unff)undC4 allelstion then'l would like t~ encounter and their ,father e$Caped., submit that this,' incident' took: place in a 'A~tu'aily wh.en ,BSP men came ,there they field· of jawar crop grown upto a" be\rht'qf e'nquired whether it w~s Niinma's h.ouse. On f': ..'6 'feet.· -A. man hidin.··.himseU in 1~e ~e,j~I' -told .tb.at h' ~as n'ot:N'irrimaslieuse,.' *Tht ,speech was. OriliD~l1)t dclivet'ed in I Punjabi. " '7. ';:b~,1o..t,.!.~i:·, "OdMiia '8> t.••• '· 1Mf.~•• ~,~~,"""!~" : ,~" ·.Sp,rt,,~ r.'":"'tt~'t ~et:i.·· ", 'c' , , ,:,,'.', ' : .. ',,' ,', ',' $jNIrt :'ui TerrOr., Actl. .' " 'fl"~_'<'" ;~U/lJtllf(,md ,Ulls iIt.'tJui).b~'" , .' " : lothl" Pllrt' ','",:' . , ' :~rl P.i;rtio/'th«,',·. . ;COU!'ftY; ",' :', " . ." . " ': 'Count'" ,', ~'" ,'rshrl.Ch-S"JDj,U Sibsb'lsIthwall· ' ,', Gf.· Shab ;Co~ml~on.. Had)\'o :a~optt)d':a: , .. " , ' 'nat~onaHst .,a~.ordacb riaht in' t~ ~ai;tl;":i~'I, : .' 't.,: l~ft)he"Place.·: But \irifortuqately there, .perilaps th~ ptobtem would no:t .h~ve beoD was "excb..nle of tlte batweea the 'D1P and' ,tbefe ", Th., ,Matb~w ~()~mistMon worked ellPP' 'Pe!lbn~or in, which, two Dip·.J;rieD ' , aaains.t ilS ter~Jlls or refrence .. We 'als~ 'know were"k;lled 'A'ftet.onto time'the Inchar.e 'wB:at, has, '{)cel1 don~ 'bY Venkat Ramatab of.' SSF tro.o-ps 'came 'to thai bouse 'and Comm;·ssion. ·tiie ,Cent'fe went on app()int. ·or.ered his jawans to .• hoot all tbe in'mates .inc Commissions one after the other of its' . 01. the 'bouse, wb'o pleaded tbeit innoeellce~ own and now tbe result is that the people '2 yen. some 'members of B~F troof)s to'ld' in l'unjab ~ave lost faith in these 'Commis- . tM Itlcbarge .that tbe inm;ltes of that bouse _ions as well ,as 'in judiciary 'as tbe ate very IbOd ,eopt'e and at time \heY had· ,Gommissions were' headed from Olen from .crVed theRa' .with ,food add water~ The j~diciary., 'Mr. Peputy.Speaker, Sir, it" tho' . tnombers of thnt ~ramUy 're'quest~ But :when people went I to tbat place,' and on" the other, be' ~imself lai4 tho " they found that there was nO: factorY,' foundat,ion ,stone of ',a ·coach. factory'it Now, the people there' are being implicate1i' Kap\J~\bal~ •. ' Be5i~e$" there, are' sever a:l 1 ip fl~so mute.:r CD.&es Mr. Deputy .. S,ealtc;r, . 'facilities wbicl;l are a,vaUable to the indus- , Sir,' '.,1 would Uk,e to submit tbat tbe 'kining: trian~tl ,~f Punjab .. oply. &ever·ai .specific of . ~nnoeetlt .peo.plc'in Punjab' ar.e ,living , measures, ,~re, being 1~keD '.\1oder . Prime impetus to, terrotisni. 'fhe Punjab problem Mjnts~t·. difection t·('I beneftl the Punjab was made mare' ~ompli,a(~d by the vacUa S~ate .. , ':j'" ,'38,1. '.'bhdlS8Mt, ••' ~ ,k*-' KAantA,'2'. 1'&8 (SAKAl DliCu.'$iu~ it, : B~'t#lI~ . 382 · Spurt ,. ,::£.,,,,,,, ~'Ct{..,,: ',' ,'." " Spurt I,,' Te:rlOrlsl Acti- ' ~'"Jl:1~- :i~: ,PunJab '."d!' .' ,vltii, Itl P~j(lb Mid, , 9th" ',I'P"' ,sf "h_ ', . {J"'~, ,ParI' of til" ': .': ,: : COI4","'~ • , ' 'c6U"", , fMR. ~"BAKBl( lit Iht. ClialrJ ' ' 'ra,lher readY: to do any hejnoQs thin&: on, the " ' "',directions of the foreian powers. AlJ of us '_'i~u ~,... ' mu'st U'Bite t,o ~oDlba~, tbeae,tor~e.,~ . , " SHltI CHAllANJIT SINGH A"HWAL 'I think out' ll()•• ,,'{~imster and- the· , (R.~par): Heavy' industl;'.ies .have not b~en Union Oovetni1)eo,{ .•~~',': doiQl ever,thini. .&t up'in Puoja~~ " '- . ':possible 'or: the boUerment of the peopl,o ()f 'Punjab. Tbe Union Governnu:l"t is;alsistlnfl , · t~, 'B~unala Clovernmcnt in mainta'ioiDI, Jaw and SHRI JANAK 'RAJ GUPTA, Let me o'rder in. that State-., Tbe C~ntre wants tbe , telJ you that_ Jait time t asked a qUestion Punjab Accord to "e'impleil1~ted .. It wants ~bout industrialisation,.'in Punjab. Itt . to. create ,co~fidence amonB tlie peopl~ 4),f reply to this question -it ,was stated that' the St.ate. But I regret' to ,"ay 'that no one lonas were ~dv3nced 'to the 'ind'ustrialists of is' ~ning to give evidence, against tb.e Punpb at a very lpw .rat·e- of interest', The, 'terrorists. 'Peopie must have the confidence a'sriculturists were given a bonus of Rs. 5 ' , and -courage to pin-point the ,terrorists., The per quiota1 of foodgr~jns. The, Government p"'ople who -tielp in identifying' and isolating i~ giving' all kinds of concessions in Punjab the 'terrorists. should be liven full protection because tbe. present situation of Punjab by the Government.. . ' requ ires such .concessioJ1s., This '. was the reply $iven to my question. Perhaps 'my hon. 'friend bas not ,read the samo. Wh9t' is required in tbe existing ~ircumt·' tances is to sea) tbe borders of Punjab. Our Forces at b,order 1l1USt be fully y'i,ailant. A coach factoJY ii b, ir.g set 'up ,ther.e. The' Stnu,gg\ers also frequently 10 to Hon, Members from an other States made. Pakisfen ' for ,~n1uglling activities. The efforts to get this -Ifac(oiy· but Pcnja'b was . ~mueglers also help the terrorists. 'lhc)' given pcrfcre.nce in tbis ma.tter., The'Pur-jab pass on ,secret meSSflses of terrC'rists, etc. Accord wes, ~ignrd in' an sinccri1y, .k'c:epjDIJ from one side to the ot her. An these ',binls in nlind -the national.intereSfs and lhe bene":, muU be checked. ., fit Qf tIle people of P,unjab., ' , 1be infiltration will have to be checked. , ' " .' " 1 stayed for two months in Punjab. I There is infiltration in Police tanks also. ,p'cnt one month in makin's contacts, with There are certain people! in :police also who the peop,le, and· during 'aDo~her' month I .... help the terrorists. A. fatal 'attack was "made remained busy in election actiyitie8~ The on the life of the Director.General' of ,~ people of Punjab' everywhere highly praised' Police, Shri Rebeiro. Tbere are many tror· Prime 'Minister' and tbe CQ.ngress ,'ofber' examples of: the type. Beside•• ' Government. ,But it is .ad tbat wberca.. political ,.interfcre~ce a,lso takes plate aDd tbc'-common ma.fis bappy., the poor farmer some .politicians exer't their inftuenee OD IS satisfied.. t~ere 'exists a sroup which is, polic~ per.onnel· and· force 1hetp not to power huogry and w,ants .to arab 'Power at ' . discharge .their fun('tions' properly.' The any ,cosL It, is 'a fact that, this Stoup political leaders sbo~ld desilt fr~m. ~Tbis cannot come into pOwer by winnil)l election. ' :praetice SO the t -the Police 'can deal with ' ~ A~ ~eaa.rds \che ,i'&\le$ Uke' Ch'ndilarh, ,tbe terrorist's .uld tb.eir' acnvilles succe_,:, ,these' people, are not at ,all aerie;us abcNt fullY.· . No 'poHtical party, s)lou'd help tbe '.olvinl : ,the.. ·Their .ole aitti is 'to ,~Ot , terrorists. ,I -wo\l,ld' partic~lal)Y .peal ~o , acoordtD" ", to,,, ,the direct"iool .of t~e fOfCilo' ,', th~' Barnala faction aI' wen a8 to the Badal 'pow,era:, .' ' This. sroup leta' ad'v}ce ",apd . facti~n pf the Akali Per\y~o. iftltil-eoofi.. · d,ire"Uol1' , on "Wireless ,from paldstan 'lOft 'depce atnon, the people o'f, Punjab. ' ,Ther ':certain ~thet, ,countliel'. y,ou' may", do ',~t!~~ '~ndcal p.ttie8 "TId tbe 'fel,i,toUI , '.",tbiDS' "for "~«c, prosperity:of punjab, b~t .. otiadip~ionl .sbQtl,)ii . :81s.0 help in ,crtafinl tbese~ • ., ,pe,oplo' ~re D'O~ ft:~ aU ~O-Jlcer~cd '~orifid'enee and aoodw,ill ,moll,g'i)~opl t, so widi the prosp~h,1' of PQ1)~b. ,~. The,)' are, 'tbat' rDa, li'/cf tOllCtber . peacefulh, .. I ,." tlt., ,\ 'I. ~I, •• .i' .. ". 'IS' . ·bl6C"8J1mt~·#t. ;' ..., . N,QVS!aSa 18. 1986' , tHtC;li'i." R, '~ B,t';· . " '", ,; SPlitt fa T,,.,.,",, ,Aeil- Sp~.!t 'Itt. :ier,.•. tf~i At',,· ,Itfe, lit P&Uljab. qItd "" ,ltlel '" P_J.b..". . ,9'''~r Plitt' D;' tM '. other hi", o[ tIi~ , .Coun'". ' (:oulttry [Sbrl ~8nak Rai OU'PtaJ' d~8i'~ 'of spr~8d1nl communa.l 'hatred amon_, .. so. crore 'people of this country: " Keepins , this thing in', n\ind we have to counter sucl1 There is also '8. need to create confideqce , elements·.: Tpe greatest 'chaUenae' before us' amon. tbe .peOl)le of 9ne p~rtic~lar co~mu .. , nlty . w,ho are le~vlnl pooj~b, a.nd t~l$ ca~ todaY'is that 'some ,people -ar.e··belping tbe" terrorists. All of us should join bands in be done by my hone friend'1n n bett~r way. Only then tho exodus ·of such' people from , combating ibis menace, be'e8.usc, the peopJe belonging to the C.P,I., th~ B.J~P ,.the Punjab cao' b~ stop.ped. .." 'fon8re~ and the Akali Party! etc., are, being kll~ed. ~,We all must 'un\t~ toae.her In ,the en4.1,·1 want to saY.that t.hc . to protect the life of the com~n man. ~, ·.prov.isions of the Terrorist and ,~lsruptt~e. other thal !enge is, that ,certain foreign Acti'Litics Act, according, to Whl.:h stern , PQwers' want to see India divided they .ction can be ta ",en ag~i~st thos~ ~ho Klve, and are giving everY kind of support to the the' terrorists thetr ahelter to in !arms, terrorists'. We must not- ignore, this asp'ect houses 'and oftlee§ or' encourage them In ~ny , al&o; Thirdly, certain ·'issues which' they otber manner must be strictiy' ,tmplemented.· rai~e ' are - also the irritants. Fourthly. we OnlY then thi', menace can be curbed., have' to set right· the trend of this tal~s' de~igned to further , weaken the positi~n of SHR,1 BALWANT SINOR RAMOO. the moderates. VI ALIA (Sanarur) : Mr. Spell ker ,Sir ~ today ,we in out capacity as the representatives of Fifthly, we have to' see th,e causes on 80 crore people of this country" 8re account of .which the people are leaving" discussing a very serIous issue. Pirst of 'PunJab and tak:ing shelter in, other States. all. 1 on behalf of Sar,d~'r Surjit Singh About 1300 fa'milies have already left Barnilla and on my behalf, want to sttoDSly Punjab. Similarly 2600'() families have condemn the innocent killings and tb~ cult migrate~ to PUQjllb from other States during , of violence, wherever ~t1cb, things ba v-e the last three years. . We shaH, have to take tak~n place. We, must not tolerate the steps' to see that these refugees return to cult '~f violence and inno(',ent k'iJ1ings and . their respective States .. Moreoyer, the tbeY must be countered at any cost. "!' e political cover is being giv'cn to the terro .ban bave' to combat \he forces of terrorism rists. They are being presented ,Soropas to even at the cost Qf our own lives. , give them honour. All these "things streng.. then the posit jon of' t~ terrorists. Su'" Sbri Bola Singbji in his Speech in Rajya thipgs win have to be stopped.· Sabha aaid- Out of the dlscussion on this issue in , (£11811,11] the Rajyn. Sabha, two point cJ~ar]y emerged .. FIrst, the Punjab .problem is a serious one "Punjab is handling a ~ery difficult because of the involvement' of c'er~ain situa~ion. ti 'foreign powers in_'it. Secondly, tbis problem can be' solved only if pOlitical. ec anomie fIe 0.180 said : , .j anq 'human' aspects thereof along with the Sikh psyche are taken into consideration "The Sikhs are patriots first ~nd tbat ,\yhile finding solution to' tho same, "We has bcen their hiatory and that ~ha8 been hava to make sincc(o .efForts 'to safoiuard their traiditiun. n the unity-and 'inte;rity of" the cou~try .. A, doctor who Is 'sincere in savini tbe life of , (Tr•• ,'al( We should embrace these eighty i)er ( In.terruptlon~) cent Sikhs,_ 1 he T. V. and the ra (Shd Balwant SloSh Ramoowa1i~] should be aiven up'. There is no need t~ " ,'be afraid of ':Amrit Pracbar" ... Bu~ what ~ r Kh r t n Z' dabad raised at '~s. required is to appeheod ,tbose who slogans. 0 .,~ lSTah. 10 't'n th~ propagate terrorism ,after 'Arnrit Prachar'. " Nonkana Sahib., 1S was no 1 f f kl' h ,.' . 'f the u.nity , As a m,atter 0 act, we are. t~c 109 l e ne~s that, the sUPP4>rters °h o' "'e of problem superficially and not striking at of the country suppresse d t e v 1~ • ' W h' ld 1 ' , . d th 1 n f 'Kh'aUstnn lts root .. ·, e 6 OU try, to ocate the t·~ose wh~ ralse e s 08: Os ublished so~rce and strike at it. Some l?eople ~re ZIJ)dabad. N90e of the p per P saying that, the bands of Barnalaji are h, empty. Hon Speaker should do something to strenglhen h'is' hands to dea'l with the SHRI NARAY AN CAO·liBEY situation. Shri Barnalas bas been fighting. (Midna.pore)·: This, was published in the with tbe situation uDsuccessfuHy for the newspapers. We have seen it. last fift-eet.. nonths. Some people say tbat we have not got Chandigarh :lnd it is SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO.. -doubtful whether we win get water or not. WALIA : If it was there' I have not seem All the political' parties and five' political that. Yet I would make an app~al'through parties including B J. P. in the Rajya . tho Hon. Speaker that there arc other Sabha pleaded for t~e fele,ase of those who f~,cts also which -deserve our attentioJl. I have been detained at, Jodhpur~ It is good have· just narrated the incidents of England 'tfiat Shrj Sunderji under directi.on~ from as well as pf this country. We shoUld try ,the Government has made some adjust... · to exploit this situation to our advantage in ments in the case of army deserters "but '. Punjab. I We all have to contribute. towards some of them still remain to. be the deve10pment of the country. As 1 rehabilitated. They should also .. be have ·llready said, no one is to be blamed- .adjusted somehow.' At the same time, The' enemies of the country a~ well as those who have been imprisoned should at some of our own people are responsible least be tra nsferred to the jails of Punjab for the deterioration ~r the situation in State and such a transfer fn no way Punjab. In fact, we should congratulate contravenes the law. Some people indulge the 'people of Punjab. ,and not the leaders, ,in ,wrong. ,propaganda and ex-ploit the for wbat they ~ave achieved 4Ciuring the situation. They say' that Barnalaji is a last five years. The leaders can be moderate. He is not strong, enough to dishonest but it is true that' tbroughout deal with the situation. But the terrorists Punjab, people of a particular religious say that Barnalaji has got' 'nothing in spite faith neither attacked any religious place ' of the fact· that be is a moderate.. So, I belonging to ~he another c('mmunity nor' request that the Guvernment should the peoPle of aoot,her faith. The sanctity UnPlement the Punjab Accord funy and of the temples was always' maintained. A should fulfil the promises which have been bone was thrown at some religious p.lace made Largeheartedness should. be shown somewhere but· it ,_as an act' of some in the case of ,detcnus in the Jodhpur Jail. misehiev'ous eienler.ts and the people .1 ltnO-w '" that Government bas the' power strongly condemned that. I ,can tell you both to bestow or' to deny something. about 22 villages where the Sikh villagers The Government ,sh~uld use its power in .c,~e out to ~ve the, lives of . their Hindu a positive way to :iafeguard,the interest ,of, br~thern when' terrorists c~me to kil,) them. the coutltrY. The Gove,rnment shoul4 ' At one place, the p<;op\e caught terrorists a~plY balm and not salt to th~ wo.unds. and at another place People killed them. When justice '18 subordinated to politic" it A&out a' month ago, when tw'o terrorists br'inas djsa8tcr~8;nd when politic8 ceases to 'came to TaU iwala vin~le of ' Sangrur, the influence justice it sets. the things riaht. '.~';vinaler& ,killed them. We should exploit Thi,.. fact should not·ie overlooked . . this feeling t·o our advantage. SimilarlY, we '. J.' should proper~y-deal witb the other: irritating , May'l know why 'the Government i. cr ;. isl. uts. . Tb e ten d eney 0 f .generall "s~ ation hesitatinVI to. publish" ,tbe r~rt'Wry of,' ltsy 'UtsCII3StO" ~ : Keelnt K,~R. TI~A. 27. i 9,0'8 ·(SAttA.) ' 61scusslolf i.e : Recent < 390- Spur·t "'In Terrorist Actt Spurt In Tertorl,ft Acti- , Vide:' in PunJilb and vltie& ~n Punjab and .' . other' Pa'ri, of the ' 'other Parts ,0/ the epun.try . Country , . , Ranganath Misra Commission, why punish. MR. SP.EAKBR : Now, I \ tbink the m,ent ~s not: being _given. to, tb~ guilty Minister will reply because it is qUaffer to . '. ~ persons in accordance with tlle finding.) of , SIX. 'the report? I want that a law ~ should be enancted immediately containing ptovisions : SHRI Mo.HO. MAHFOOZ ALI for summary trial and imprisonment of 14 KHAN "Btah) Mr. Speaker, Sir, , I have years to' those, who indulge in riots or also 10 speak.' . ~. commit murders" or abct murders. We shall support the 'Ocwern,ment in passing MR. SPEAKER Now there is rio such a law. The Government should tell time. ,~ us whether the publication of the'Ranganath Misra Commission's f('port poses danger SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALl in allY way to the unflY apd integrity of KH~N. : Sirt it is a very important issue the countrY If not, why"' is there 1 and, therefore, I should be permitted' to hesitation? · ' ' 'speak. Mr Speaker, Sir, about two thousJnd MR. SPEAKER Let 'the ~ini8ter, young Sikhs of Indian, nationality huve ,peak now. crC'ssed over to Pakistan aft er ,the crack down on the terrorists in this country. 'We . S~RI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI are happy that Rujivji mtntioned about it KHAN : Sir, it is not rair. It is great in Bangalore. Some way should be found injustice to me. ... ,out to bring them bilck. Government, should provide help in resolving the politi MR. SPBAKE~ let bim speak:--- cal iss,,!e of the Punjab, the, Jodnpur issue, the Chandigarh issue and the'issue SHkI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI of miliLary deserters, S.> far as the KHAN : No, sir. it is quite wrong. econolny of Punj1b is concerned.' I want to ._. suggest. that the Government, shOUld MR. SPEAKER: You will be aiven declare Punjab as industrially backward oppo,rtuniLY at some other, time. State and put it in 'A' category. If it is done. it will attract the industrialists to Set SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI up industries in Punjab and it will impro~e KHA.N ~ No, Sir, I should be given time. the economy of Punjab-- , MR. SPEAKER: No, Whatever I have (lnterruption~) decided is final. Mr. Spcake"~ Sir, in' the end. I would SHill MOHO'. MAHFOOZ ALI like to say thCll the proposal to create Ii KHAN : All right, sir, I shall obey your securistY belt in Punjab shou14 be :.t abandon(;)d. In this case, the people, directive. particularly the people of border ,areas will " fully support you., If this belt, is . "THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS created/$S9 villages" will be affected and (S. , BUTA SINGH) Hpn Deputy 2.50 lakh people 'lhing along the border Speaker, Sir, today a very itnportant i,ss~ei will be uprooted by it and they will bave namely, terrorism is bei'og discussed in the to sustain, heavy loss on this, account'. ThJ . House. The ",Oil. Members of the House love and tbe sQ·pport 'whi.ch we got from have' not only very seriously "analysed the these p~ople during t 965 aod 1911 wars , present country wide situation of t.errorism. .will diminish. PeQple are with you but .they ,have also given their lOod and the Oovernmont should' 'deal with the valuable, SUBse6Uons. to deal with this • Punjab problem with 'an open heart. problem~ . 1 am grateful. to all tbe boo. M;,mbers who participated ip this debate. Sir at" the' beainning, of the disculsion, , 'II, Wi th these words, ·1 'tnank y.ou.' ,., '.' ' ·391 Di.,.(us.~;on ~e : :beet.", NOVEMBER 18, t ~86 ' Discussio" -Ite : Becent' 3~2' _Spurt in rerrorlst Acti. Spurt In Terrorist Acti- vitles in Punjab Qnd vities in punjab Qnd . other Parts .0/ t/ie other ParI!, of rhe Country Country (&. Buta Singh] Shri Indrajit Gupta 'has given, ~n his speecb the definition lof terrorism,' the. means Hon. Speaker had been kind enough to 'adopted to spread -terrorism and the live gui-delines to the House to consider circumstances waich go to create' an 'this serious issue beiDg above par.ty politics atmosphere of terrorism. The most and keeping in view the unity and integrity . serious _and. dangerous situatioQ' develop~ of the countr'Y. human aspects and the when terrorism is supported' by religious future of the country. In fact, . the sentiments and emotions. ' discussion took place in. the light of these _. guidelioes. .. It is unfortunate that terrorism in Punjab is getting full reHgious' support. The Members of- both sides of this Some of our 'hon~ Members' represent an House while participating in the disc\lssion (Jrganisation w'hich is openly supporting ba ve suggested various points which can be . terrorism. Terrorism' becomes mo{e fonowed by the Government of India and d1ific~lt for us to tackle when it is the ~unjab' Government to improve the associated with the' reiigious feelings of situation in the Punjab State and. also in the people. I would !ike to cite an·~ other parts of the country. exarpple. Since 1980, on various C1ccassions, .a re1igious persons -who is also I will not go into· details because. 'this ,a big leader of u,;' political party, -h~s Dot issue is dtscussed in the' House in .every only supPorted the ttrrorism but· also has session and problbiy . in. (very 'week cf been attending the Bhag ceremonies of the every.ses!ion in one fQrtn or ,the other and dreaded terrorists,. who' were carrying all the political parties express their views reward of Rs. one'lukh on their heads for on it. 1 will express my own views and their involvement in }_1einous crimes. He outline the thinking of the Government on declared them martyrs and induced the the present .,~ilua don in brief. peopl(! to convert· . their houses jnt~ Gucdwaras. Mr. Speaker, Sif, a dreaded' I am deeply. shocked to hear {he views terrorist, Waryam Singh was killed in police' of an hon. Member who tried to give encounter in your district rec':DtJy. This political. colour to the Punjab situation House and the entire nation know that ' with which the Punjab Government and the . this dreaded terrorist had committed a administration are dealing with courage. I 'very heinous and irihuman act at Mut [Translation] I want to make another submission.. I , . went to Canada. in . 1"978 in connection , Secondly, I nave a list with me~ Some with my own p:irty work. Shri Ramoo 60 international .smugglers are operating walia, may perhaps remember' it .. I am on ·the· Indo-Pak border who have also trying to tell as to what are the sources contributed a huge amoun,t to the • crusaee' and have maintained a regular' liaison that led to increase in terrorism 10 Punjab.· who At that time, a' large plane carrying .with Pakistan.. After the Hatminder immigrants bad landed at' the Vallcouer Sahib incident, these smugglers took . airport. T~e Immigratlon authorities thousands of people to Pakistan. Even ,did not permit it t9 enter·' the airport and .today these very' 'smugglers are not' only sent it back. An Important Khalistani giving financ;ial ass;stance to the terrorists. leader had. brought th~ immigrants there but also providink them resources and and bad appealed to the Canadian Govern-. maintaining contact with them. The ment to grant them asylum as the·y had terrorists are ·also provided .shelter, trans been haraned by the Indian Government. port, money 8l)d arms and ammunition by Sbr'~ Ramoowaliaji, at that time you were some big smuggler aft« they have in the Central Government. Now your accomplished a task assigned to them. The people . are complaining, as hon. Shri second source of ,the terrorists is that of Charonjit. Singh has said, that our peop)e ,ar~ tbe smugglers. committing excesses on the Sikhs, but at that time, you were in the Central as well As per my information the tbird source as in the Punja b Government, and your of the terrorists is the dru8' ped.lars who leaders were in Government. i'n Punjab as smuggle out narc.otics from Pakistan. and' well as at the Centte,' So, what argument tra-1Updrt them to America and funning "'ou would put fortb to justify it. Did . areicket wo~th crores of ru~ets. Sir t during ;o.u, at. that time,'. harass those Sikhs and ·the l'ast ..three or' four . months, . Shd did you compel. them to leave Punjab and. Vi,$hwana th Prata\, Singh .'has taken the country. Was it not the'it - regu lar stringen't action. aga inst this' and has business to mislead people and the youth, .exposed such people befor.e the count,rY. who were sent to Canada and Germany on 1 am of, the view that perbaps. punjab's fake passports and a, huge amount was Budget is not as, large as the business ,charged from them 3. The people were transacted by these D'lrcotic' d.ealers which made to cross tho borders on the pretext i9 ilitned at running the lives of our yong· tbat tbey' had. been harassed by Indian men. The narcotics' all over the world Government, aud had been thrown out of are being supplied at present through tbis the country, hence, they should be allowed border and one even' sent to America and to' settle down there. Tbe entire plane . Canada. These' are . the. people who are was asked to return. The next day, I met' the backbone of these terrorists. The' the aut'horiUes there. 1 thought, that' so-called Pantbic Group gets alssistance their' case 'might be a genui41e one. They snd funds from them. I want to ask the showed me -the entire list and tbe note hone Members a~ to what sort of P~thic which had been submitted .to them for' service is being done with' th.e moneY ,asylum. Il was completely a bolUs request~ provided by such "crjmina~ 1 Have· tbey Th:Y were misled and Ulkcn ou~ of Punjab. eVer thought bf (his thing? Affluent people So this was (JDe of tbe sources· with bi,b connections' are involved in it. , , I I "11 Y' , ;'1 ',:,,", I: ;'", , ',:, , ' .. ",C,,' ," .,' ":,"," .~' " _", ," ", "t;', " 'II:~J~~: ..,"r>lf~~~~~r{/I,.~,:, .KI~IY_CA:;,~'':':!I,_O:' ;(8~4:) ,f!lltit"IoIt.' •• r'R'~nI,f, ••2 ,~ ':,,:v ,,$P"rt'.'~"~~,~~•. ' , , .. ', ~~r' It; ,T."'",*:I'A.(:'~ . '. ,'tJi,l_' ill(fItBi}tl6" Md , :' , 'vlttiJ,',IrI,'PIIIIJIIb,·,,,lIdh I Ij, ... '. fjl/uf.,• I, 'ar:rl't!/,,/fI', ", " " .. . •. '.,'. oth" "11.", 01 ( .~ ,'!,CfMlttey' , " " "," . ' . ,CtNUi!r,' I ba'. a ',;1,,, list of, .cb p~~pie., ,"', ad ' .Sikh has: 'riJeen' d.rlved' troJn ',tbe aautrJt ~ '~o •••ot ~o ·.... te" tu ii~e of. th~ ~ If<*~e, ~0rd' .-S~~l'lYa·~ '. ~I',· .P.dnjabt~ .. it i. C8U~' 'b,. i_db", out thelt 'sam,et bu~ it is ~ fact· ,', $i~b., Sakh 'mea.,. _ ttudeD~. A :_udcrit, ',tba,t it it ,the druB trafflcbta" ·,wu.. lea· ' ·b~. no·~alte.~, a. i:8 a ",s.tude ... ~ in. 'c!aa~ • -:"4 mternaJionaFlanlesters 'who 'ar~, liVia" , T:be." UlQt. .~o "cqu'&~'. koowled.e lad tbe maximum. help to tbe tetrdl"istl.. Tbey makes retear'eb" the ben'J:'a': ,ditciple, aud ri1ille~d tit:" peoPle 'and 'J,ie t~~ ,out of' :a. student h~, 'w.Ul be.~ 'l~ ii, true that .thia. .. 'the :.oODb.try·, wh~re -.they· fl'\18~.t~, them. · C?lass' obSerV08'cert.~ 'rvl',.·'and fiom tbeso . When t~e people' are ua,ablf; to 'Gullide,: ,rules" fro,m th every corner of the c~untry, 'people ,of ~bis boly",book a It-t saint poet,' Kabir" < , Sikh c(\mmunity are 'Jivlol In.d 'Jeadipa. a ' , 'bas said. :, ' ' respeCtable life.' As Shri" RarnoowaUa hal stated, ~Sikbood· is an enligbtCl\ed. tt~te.' A~' Allah- IUHI, UPflyD. kIId,II"k.,· ." of mind; . I "do not con,,ider it any sect or. , ' bande. $k'''H~ ~e IQb JIIIIlP/il"'~' /",. rell,ion. "Any ~rSOD 'bQm in,' ari~ reU8i~n,' "·~'le. to niolUle .• · ' , :,~,~ " '. can' _tiain," tbis \ mental s~.'te. Whose'f:er has:,u~d'erlto04 ,arid i,,'opt~d ~bc .t,~athm... .. ":, 'An4. ;Slr. alvldas, a ,very' jowIY·,Placed of Shri Guns' Manak, 1)0\, 'ld ,'his lire. i, &.' POt~' who wa ~borb io a famfty'· 'wllicb it' Sikh•. " Sikh 'CD_D, $dil~,l,o'< tbe : ~or,~. ' ~s,iae~ uatou~blble aDd, who rOte to •• '~,I', ' '4.; \,' • ,'I" '11,.' ' .. .. " .,' ,\ '.... , ' .' " , .40,3 , blsCM,uloll It : ,ase,,,' . ' 'NOYB~BBa ~It 1~86, 'DI,eu'$II;",J, ': R,e,.t , Spu,~ In Tnro.rlst At".. , . ' , " ~ Spurt 'til 1e~',Q,'ttt Actl~ , ,vitid:" In ,PuIIJab 11M . .' ·"ltles *" ·puilJtib .nd , . oth,r P~"S, of tluI' . , 'othn' Parts 'of (II. ' , ~Dun,ry . ., ,'Coun", ,~ " . {S.,:' Buta' S,intb) :. thiop' proPounded' in ',he Constitution."" If you 'flil to undentand tba,t: I .a'm,· helple•• peatness 'a~d', became ,"'saint, ,ha'., also 'If' we 'have ,'to' ,8afeluar~ tbe unity and exprcssed ',these k.i.nd ",Of' views in G~ru' :' iotelrity of tbo'cou,ntrY. tben 'we will' have Granth S4bib. Some' 500 years back ,be to protect tho .democracy.' It bai' ,to· be ,av~ ~s aD, outline of tb~ ,r~pub1ic' 'and if protecte4 in tbe interest of tbe poor .aIIO. w.e a,e able 10 liv~ ehape to tb-~' samet I Th~' 'rich ,"people will find, away out to . thin'lc it ,wiU' be, 'a· ~'areat lerY,i'ce to the' sustain theIPselvC8 but, democfaC)'" 'il.' humanity. Sahit Ravidas bad 'I~ven' the imperative f9t ' tl\e 8undva) of the' ,poor· definition afthe republip' and tb,t has been. Democracy can be' protected only when included in OlUU Gtantb' 8abi~, which: Is we' : are determined . to, . eJimin'ate. luch : recited by every' Sil\b in the meming. He elements al1d tendencies which create' reer '.aY5- ( " 'in the minds of the 'peopJe. The' terro'fiats are on tbe top in the list of, such persons. They have no other religion. The terrorists 'Begumpura 'hahllr ko "(Jon', r!Ukh IImboh creaJe,, ',panic and wea~en 'the ,society. '"'!tin hou kou, No tashviih kh'iraj na Therefor. terrorism bas no place whatsoever mGnl,e khau! no khata' no ta~as savaye. , in out country, Shri Dinestl Goswami,' Shri • Thurgan and several· other hon.' He says that 1 want my., country to' be Member have ta lked' about 0 tbe eastern countfy wh,ere no. ~ne 'should suffer and ,region. J would like to say tbat 'in the where there should not be any taxatioD, eestem reSion ' also the situation is not There should be full ,iberty, every ono . that, f!atisfactory. Whether it ,:be .1Cipura, sh~uid be fearless and presently, our hon. ManipUl or Nagaland, one or' the other o Members talk of nothing except fear. incident goes on . tak iog place there Democracy bas' to' be rUD fearlessly and whereby law and order situation in the bad tha.t-not been so, Shri Charabjit and . country . ~8 dish.irb,ed. Sbri Saifuddin myself would, not ha~e been· sitting here .. Chowdhary m'ent.ioned about Tdpura., We Our system or the Govetnment provide~ wan~' to face the, terroriSfS in Tripura in for fearlc;ssness. The Const i tution of, the collaboration with' the Government of countfy has given us the.. feeling of such Tripura. 'There was a proposal that TNV fearlessness that today a poor Harijan. , should be banned and it should be Adivaai' is· sitting before the Maharaja of d,eclared .unlawful- I do not know whether. Gwalior with equal" statuS. Who gave 'Shri 'Saift;1ddin' Chowdhary )vill ' be angry this' 2 This, derpocracy bas provided that OT" happy \\itb me .. · The Chief Minister the value of the vote of a· monarch is the ()f Trlpura has said that TNV should not tame as that of the. poorest.. of poor, be baQ~ed and declared unlawful. On the a sweeper or, an . Adivasi. So, this' other band, it· ,is" said'. that Gorkbaland' fearlessness has' bee'n provided, by the. 'movement aboti14 be banned, and' ,declared .detnocracy bU,t those, whom· we help, unlawful immedhitety. I do not- know teach us fear. The terrorists have behind where sueh a dou:tlle policy· win take the atr~i1 of fear the village and' t~e cities 'countrY. . through which they pass city.,' , ,., " , .. , , (lnterrup,tions) SHRI ,'CHAllANJJT SINOH ATHWAL :: 'This bas happened because' [English] of Saba Sabeb Ambed1c.ar. . . , ' SIfltI SAIFUDD~N CH'OWDHRY: I s. BUTA,SlN'GH '; I am talking of the 'have .nev~r" said.' J;J~ta' Sinah ii, wbo Contitutioo. It is Supreme. Tbe, Consti-, , demanded that 1. Did I 'demand, that' . tution co~ers Baba Saheb A'mbedkar as ,. wen ,as thi!' hon, Spea ~et. . I am talkini , , Sol·' BUJ' A ~1~aH: No,. your. :Qief of ,tbe.,' principles, and the fundamental Minister laid U. ,}lo\lJd pot be' honea .. '" , . ,', ,'. ', ..,AI.1tK~,· 2', , 1"~' '(I,~~,. iP'f4,t"ff""" I.,~' :. R''e~,.t" 406." 405 ',D/"CliSlltltl,R.. ~,'IAt"", ... . ~.. u ,- 1" I A I . .$purt "tit ,7'''''''1''", Md-, ' . "" .. ' ',', ':' " , " ,~t.t .,PI ,,.,,er,,or " , ,ct ." ' ylti",'", P",,,jtlb.l.ln4 " ". ' .' ' ", "Ill" in '-lsb 'ond', ',D'''.''P!Jth ,of ,h, '. '" ~tj,e' Pllrt, 0/ i~e . CtJUntry , ' Countr~', , ',",H':~I ":,SAtP,' UDrllN,. CHOWpH'IlY~; , a~ :at le~st,' ~.ibt'·, bauali~ of',afiout oid'l &Wer'demand'~ '*.iol'l' '. ," :' . , Centrai forces iD ,Trl.,ura." We are COll~ . ~' , ' " ,'itautly' 1~.Jn' "to~cb \\,'itb,' tbe~ ,a!l~ "theil', " S. BUTA SINOR: No, 1.•• "' '.. "inS requirements ,.111 be met.' Similarly, S,bJi "ou',:' wllal' 'j,'. the Ilalulard? '., 'Th.ere "you.~ '».iDclli OOI\\m'i ba,' as,ked whY intcrD~t,ional # t d A.aS-.m bord.er'.is, ,not. de.It with ,in th~ ..,inl".bout GOrkbalaad'l()(:k" atoe '~ ,.lDe maf:\ne(,.' ,iJ bema done ~ tbe " ,ca.e baft.et •••' •. ~ of Punjab. first,~ ,th~ ,-Punjab situation at' present .il Dot comparable w'itb the' Allam ( l"tet,p"tio~$.) situation. Tbere'g infilteration in Assam. Benala . de. aftd Bena.l. But.. wba t is bOJ)peniDI'" in Punjab at ~esent ia totally' different from t,hat. Secondly, .the bord~r, H"re al'lo politics is involved. 'This is' - of Punjab j. a land border. It ia easier to,. "·our difl\culty., "maD tbe Pllnj~'b border because the vcr)' few natural, features' that are 'theE" are' You take' a stand with an eye .on ,the' verY helpful whereas the terrain' in, North , ballot box'. Y QU do not pay att~Dt,ion, to Eastern re.ion' is very' difficult due to an i.~ue wbi~h can be of,any service to the which it is difficult toman, it. Even tben. countrY- , we' have taken a number of'steDS there. . SHRI SAl~UDDlN CHOWDHA&Y:' ,[English] We ,do pay a'ttentioo. " . ,; 29. battalions of BSF 'toaether. with necessary compleOl.ents' of equipment•. transport OVt~ a period of five years is 1 do not'want to join ilSu~. ,witb, you 'propo.ed. to" manap .. the entire border. today. Keep if for tom,morr~w or,' fOf, Out 'of this, BSP' battalions have already some other day.' been despatched. At the' moment, 'about , five battalions .lre there in Assam. Obser [Trans/a tlOn] va tion posta ~ower8 are ~lio beina iucrea~ sed.' Niaht ViSjOD loales aro a'j6o beina S. BUT A SINOH .! I told ,the Chief provided t~ the battalions. So 'far, - aJargo Minister that if· the'TNV actiYities were, number of transport vehicles have ,been be cQmin' dangerous then. ' . scot, and, there is.a very compreheosive scheme ' to provide a road" and .IenelDI, aU (E~,'lsh] . ". . , along the border. Th~ schemes hive been . drawn,tmortey has been 'sanctioned, t.,k Let UI ban"it. Let us dech,lre it unlaW. . forces bave' been .id'cntified. AS&t'm' 'P.W.'D. ful. bas ..en given the 'talk. Contracts bave been' awatdtd. ,C.'P.W. 1.1 is monitortn'. [Traits14tIOll] . the o¥er~al1 work'ina of ,the entire bOrder He. said nc>, this shOUld, .not, be done~' in Asiam aDd neiahbourina Stat~. ,-- Tber~ Similar is the Caac of Naaaland.· NSON, in, 'fore, t.ber~ is' a"detailed scheme t'o scc' tbat 'Nala 'I an d .... ~, . .',' . ' ' . this, border ia also· made quite effective. J mUlt say ·tbat A1sam ,Governmen't' is, also eo-~ratinl " ,witb U8.~ 'Why was thero '.. delay"". The delay tic a me , bectu'se of .tbe SHRI ,AJi.Y,IiISWAS :," Send Ca.P. ' 'interveninl monSOOD. ·800-, after t~e .m ~me I,into beiDI tberc wa .. a IOD, spell of ,S. DurA SINGH : We have '~tovide4 mo.oon. sQt. in tbe :dfC'1l time, Ib«; dctaUcd whatever CRP'You bad ,deuiand~d~, Accord-' work bas' been done. The P·lans have' been in, to Q.1)" i-nfoilDatiOl'l" 'p&;.~ndy i tbere , . appro,y~~, MOlleY' ',baJ been S8QCI'io.ocd. , .401',bl:~t.:~; ~t..l •• l.""~;,~~",~. . , \' ,.",.. '•. r,thlrid '1~f1t,~ ." , , • l ,! " " , s,nirt 1;., Fe",rlM t~ I '""": '; .' , ,', vU'" ,II" ~' :*' ::; .' ., , ,;, "" ...;,:1. ;'__ ".""'~ ~ ,; "<,' :" : , , . ,00,INr ,,,.ffi -/.• ". .' . ", :' '. ,~,. ttil", "t/t1i.~'.. " " t, ',' : " Cou;,,' . 'I" ' ", ',' ." CtJIIIt"y"': ' ," '~'::'~",' , " {L __ ~l ,;..... :~t9i;"~~"af~.',..",·.~ ,~ .. ' """, ,: Dilt~1~'~~.'1.,@,:lto~4or ,f.~ot~",;, ,:N,.tt.llt"is ,beial,' .liS.r... 1Cl»', taOvi" .' , , ", , ," " "etter tilaa ;lit:;tipw~d.cuU' ,it' :ll. "to,:,:~carq 'ft"_~IG"'"1 ,I" '," , ,I', , __la1,' :'\Q.tbose: Pat.k,ot,dl,e _~.\rY," ," ":"'·"S. ,BtrrA ,SINQ·H~'::·':A ,.~tial" ;~.• " ' , c... ' I'~'>I.JO., 'S ~t1Ot pet'.,kU" •. ',o.)y '_ '~~d :~ 'dh.D~~~':"blO~ . ...,aI, atte.Clf4.; .,'_' , ,.n.. n': ~~tiOD" ,~f' ""'e": ',er,lod'ia' ••Uable, ·the Cbi~r'M-iililtet. tbe Gove. of l'uojab ,itor tlttrYiftl" tile ' ~bitJ" .. ' hi.' .et 'me ;'~11 ' .and otber·,ofBcia.ts~ "In tbat \ ~eetina~ 1.' had '«YOu. . " ",:' : ",,', ' .. , " ,'laid that 'if ",ally pOd, Ichtme for ·the , " ' :; I, development of ".ud 'lwaS· btQuaht,' tbea 1 :{T"",'4tf.1 , the ·C,eotral Government would take "lIU , .. .' ' , ' interest, in ,comptolina it •. , ., , ;,. ':::,:'P9f ,Us' tbia:'~ a~ ,"et1ui111Y,'~ an,pott.nt' ('Uke··west Benpl. 'But,' the problem 1hore The terrorism. til PuQJab is;. 4\lesuon.• , :"belnl 'Ifli~I' different,' t~( ,q ,bei~,' deali, of national imPortance', and· we, have to .with 4Hrerently.' I' ialute the bra", .:pt\~r,iot. 801ve it by tatina Jnto consideration ita . of 'Punja"-. It. loa to' tbei~ credtt- that I)ational imPQttance. All' political " p.rtiea , comm.naUam baa Dot . ~pted , in' Punjab' shOuld take part io' it. Oricc aaain I would m".1)itc ~~. the continuous efforts· 0" ,the, . Uke to request those hOD. l~~de.r.· wbo'are terroritts dQlioI the Jast, fODr )'eats ' in tbis openly 8uPPortini the terroriats,: that' it 1~ .ieaard.- a, ,dengcr(>u~ ..,amc ~d their ~ctjvities are ' . beina watched by the wholo llsti&n ~ with ,~Tbe .Hiodus, the Sikhs. the ~uslims, , anazement." the dhri,stia,ns and tbe Harijans continue , 'O,ur nation' is great.· T.he 'people of . 'to Ii\'4 In Punjab as be,fore. '. The farmers P'unjab particularl, :tbo.. Sikhs a~e 'sreat. ' .of PUnjab have c0l}tinuQusly·, be:en Tbe whole natio,n is proud, of them. . We increa,inl the' alricultura,) production for 'arc ,proud of' their valuable contribuUon the last 3 to, -4 yean IQr which the' nation "to the country'. stru,gle' for. independence, i. "o:od of tbem." .·It' abo,wl tbat despite 'development and ~ecurity t 'We wish that ,tbe a'Ctivities of tbe terrorists" ,the farmers ... their contribution shoUld continue and of Punjab ,eODtipu,e to serve t~,c, COUI)~f)'. . ,notbi'hl,~ should be done which inay . , . 'demoralise the people. The handful' of' . SHl\.t C1'll\~ANJIT, ~~N~H .. , people" -who. are pl.aying in the ,hands' of A"H~AL. : Some, special, grant ~hould be.' the ·enemies 0,( the count(y. "should' be liven. " ' isolated in ,order . to ' lave' the country". unity and integrity. T.bere cannot, be and ,s~ SUTA SINOH :' I do Dot jate the abould' not be any sympathy for ,tbe people bia industrios statted in 'Punjab ,a,1 cottaae . 1Vho .up~rt, .such' ,elemct;._ltst Toda1. I ioduau'ies., A ,. 'CQach factory baa· been throu'8h .tbi's 'debate, I,want to request tti~ started io ka.purthal.a, and we are tryfng 'foi countrYnien that while ,lookiol at the more indoitrial ·PrC)&ross in Punj~b '10 tt.:at'~ present "$ituati~n ,in' Punjab, they should the youtb of "hnjab. may let . of the problem is possible. A suggestion versions) under section 1 S9 of the Customs about detenves and a host of other good Act, 1962:- suggestions have also been given to which all the political parties should give a (1) Notification No. 463186 .. Customs serious thought. Some problems can be published in Gazette of India dated the solved POJiI ically such as the unemployment t 8th November, 1986 together will an of the youths or the Question of their being explanatory memorandum making certain Dlisguided. All these things can be done amendments to Notification No. 12- but we Sh'd Jl not alJow one thing to happen Customs dated the 17th January, 1984 so at any cost i. e. we will not alJow the as to include 2,6 Diethyl Aniline for the efforts of those anti ... national elements to manufrlcture of Butacblor for concessional succeed who arc playing in the hands of custonlS duty. our enemies or getting support from them. Therefure, I once again express my (2) Notification No. 464/86 .. Customs greatitude towards the hone Members who published in Gazette of India dated the gave their valuable views and suggestions 18th November, 1986 together with an today on this critical problem. I will get explanatory memorandum regarding a 11 those suggestions studied in my Ministry exemption to nine specified intermediates and see that action is taken 00 thenl to the for the manufacture of pesticides from the maximum extent. whole of the additional duty of customs leviable thereon. (Plrced in Librar), see No. LT 3240/86] )8.37.hoers. PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Now the House stands udjoUfuc d to meet at 11.00 [English] A. M. tomorrow. THE M1NISTER OF STArE IN THE 18.38 brs. MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT): The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Sir, on behalf of Shri Janardhuna Eleven of the clock on Poojary, I beg to lay on the Table a copy H/edne~day, Nnl'en.ber 19. each of the foHowing' Notifications (Hirdj 1986/Kortika 28, and :.~ English 1908 (Saktd. .----~-,-~-.. --. - _. ~- _.. _.. __ .-_- Printed by: SunliRht Prlnh~rs 2265, Dr. Sen M.-rg, Dclhi-6