JUD Committee Hearing Transcript for 02/26/2021
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1 FEBRUARY 26, 2021 rr/si JUDICIARY COMMITTEE 10:00 A.M. CHAIRPERSONS: Senator Gary Winfield, Representative Steve Stafstrom SENATORS: Anwar, Bradley, Champagne, Haskell, Kasser, Kissel, Lesser, Sampson, Winfield, REPRESENTATIVES: Blumenthal, Callahan, Conley, Currey, Dillon, Doucette, Dubitsky, Fiorello, Fishbein, Fox, Godfrey, Harding, Howard, Labriola, Luxenberg, Miller, O'Dea, Palm, Porter, Quinn, Rebimbas, Riley, Simms, Veach, Walker, Young, Candelora REP. STAFSTROM (129TH): Good morning, everyone. I'd like to call to order the Judiciary Committee Public Hearing for February 26, 2021. We have one item on our agenda today. And that's Senate Bill 888, which is AN ACT RESPONSIBLY AND EQUITABLY REGULATING ADULT-USE CANNABIS. It is a Governor's Bill that is before us today. And I know we have a number of folks in the administration here with us. So, we're going to start there. Before we do though, I just want to remind the Committee that we have nearly 150 people who are signed up to testify today at three minutes a pop, that's seven and a half hours of testimony straight through without any questions or delays or the like. I would ask the Committee today so that we can get to hear from the public sooner rather than later that if you have questions, that they be brief, they be direct, and they be to the point and they not be repetitive. I understand members may be in and out of this Committee and other Committees today, that's fine. But for the interest of the public, and for those who are testifying, if you've missed something, we can go back and watch it, or we can follow up, particularly with the administration 2 FEBRUARY 26, 2021 rr/si JUDICIARY COMMITTEE 10:00 A.M. officials, we can follow up offline. I would ask folks to stay to the Bill before us today. And again, keep your questions pointed and direct so that we can get to the public and hear from them before the wee hours of the night and into tomorrow morning. With that, comments from my Co-Chair, the ranking members before we begin. SENATOR WINFIELD (10TH): Thank you, Chairman Stafstrom. I don't have any comments, except to put it, to echo what you suggested. And to remind people that the seven and a half hours is actually probably longer given the technology platform that we're on. So, I don't think we're banning question, but we're asking people to consider that because there will be an impact on those who come to tell us what their perspective is on this Bill. Thank you. REP. FISHBEIN (90TH): Thank you, sir. Do you want to thank him and then I will? REP. STAFSTROM (129TH): Go ahead Representative Fishbein. REP. FISHBEIN (90TH): You know, I have no problem with, you know, non-repetitive questions. But you know, this is the process that we are unfortunately left with in a pandemic, and I understand that it's cumbersome and all of that. You know, I -- there is seven people in here from the Governor's office, there’s six. It would be helpful if the Governor himself was here to answer a lot of these questions, perhaps that would truncate a portion of this. So instead of handing off and all that stuff, but we'll proceed accordingly. Thank you. REP. STAFSTROM (129TH): Thank you, Representative. All right, we will begin then. First up, I think to introduce the Bill and to give the high-level overview is the Governor's Chief of Staff, Paul Mounds. Mr. Mounds, you may proceed. 3 FEBRUARY 26, 2021 rr/si JUDICIARY COMMITTEE 10:00 A.M. PAUL MOUNDS: Thank you, Chairman Stafstrom. I want to thank Chairman Winfield; I’d like to thank the Ranking Members and all the members of the Committee. My name is Paul Mounds Jr. I’m the Chief of Staff for Governor Ned Lamont and I’m also joined by quite a few members of our administration representing being able to answer all your questions and represent the Governor directly. And starting with the Senior Advisor, Jonathan Harris, Senior Policy Adviser Mohit Agrawal, Policy Adviser, Patrick Hulin. From our agencies that are going to be represented today, we have quite a few agencies. So, I won't go through everyone's names, but I’ll say just the agencies that are represented. Office of Policy and Management Marc Pelka, the Undersecretary of Criminal Justice, Department of Emergency Safety and Public Protection, Commissioner Rovella representing being able to take on any questions and concerns that deals with criminal justice issues. Traffic Safety, we have Garrett Eucalitto, who's the Deputy Commissioner, as well as Commissioner [Inaudible] from DMV. Market regulation, we have Commissioner Segal, Department of Consumer Protection. Revenue portions we have now official, Commissioner Mark Boughton of DRS. And we also have various members of their teams and their staff represented today. I think that's a perfect example to go into this Bill. It's a comprehensive Bill. It's a Bill that will look as the title says responsibly and equitably regulating the adult-use cannabis. We have seen across the country and in our region that the regulation of cannabis is here. And this year alone, New York will be pursuing legislation, New Jersey this past week signed their legislation, the law, we know what's going on in Massachusetts, and Rhode Island will also be presenting legislation. But that's not the real reason in terms of to regulate a marketplace. Real reason is to right wrongs. What 4 FEBRUARY 26, 2021 rr/si JUDICIARY COMMITTEE 10:00 A.M. cannabis and the war on drugs has done to our communities is unconscionable. We have to take steps to not only right those wrongs but take steps to make sure that individuals are not only among the marketplace but are part of the marketplace. So, the overall problem, the Governor will say directly, prohibition has failed us completely. The war on campus has did little to protect public health and safety. Instead, it has caused significant and justices for many of our residents, especially people in our black and brown communities. Cannabis already is or will be soon legal in our neighboring states, as I stated, and it's time for Connecticut to join this regional and national movement. The overall solution, we feel is necessary to put forth a comprehensive, well-regulated marketplace. So the Governor has proposed a comprehensive framework for cultivation, manufacture, sale, possession, use, taxation of adult-use cannabis that prioritizes public health, public safety and social justice. This proposal will build on the significant work that the legislature has done in previous sessions, particularly this Committee, as it deals with adult-use of cannabis and ensures alignment that the approaches pursued by states in our region. So how do we get here? I mentioned members of my team, my direct team, as well as members of our administration who have worked comprehensively to put forth a starting framework. And the key word is starting, the beauty of the legislative and deliberative process that makes sure that we hear our voices, and hear all angles, to make sure all concerns are taken under account and all questions are answered. This is not a final Bill. I’ll say it again, this is not a final Bill. There's a Bill that has to go through multiple Committees, this is a Bill that will have to have multiple voices a part of it and 5 FEBRUARY 26, 2021 rr/si JUDICIARY COMMITTEE 10:00 A.M. multiple people at the table. This is a Bill that the administration feels is saying to the legislature at whole and those who are advocates and those who are part of wanting to bring about this change in Connecticut, we want to sit at the table, we want you at the table. And we want to get a Bill to the Governor's desk that he will be able to sign that really have a full, well-regulated marketplace here in Connecticut that takes on all of those elements that I’ve stated previously. You have the Governor's formal testimony. And I know Ranking Member Fishbein who stated that he would love to have the Governors here, sorry that the Governor couldn't be here today. But you have his whole team. You have the very people who worked on this legislation. You have the very people in the agencies that will have to regulate this legislation. You have the very people who have to promulgate this legislation. They will be here to answer all your questions, go really into details, and really have a full comprehensive conversation with the Committee and the public at large. What I would like to do right now, with the permission of the Chairman, is pass it off to Jonathan Harris to talk about some other elements of the Bill. And you have our whole team and our full administration ready to answer any and all questions. REP. STAFSTROM (129TH): So, I think -- thank you, Mr. Mounds. I think yes, I think the most streamlined way to do this is there's a number of members of the administration who are signed up to testify, and I know there's some overlap. And I’m sure some of the questions will. We want to make sure they're addressed to the right people. So, I think what we should do is we will give each of the folks signed up to testify from the administration three minutes.