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Interview with John Savage May 1, 1987 Georgia Government Documentation Project Series B: Public Figures Interview with John Savage May 1, 1987 Copyright Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library DISCLAIMER: Oral history is a method of collecting historical information through recorded interviews between a narrator with firsthand knowledge of historically significant events and a well- informed interviewer, with the goal of preserving substantive additions to the historical record. Because it is primary material, oral history is not intended to present the final, verified, or complete narrative of events. It is a spoken account. It reflects personal opinion offered by the interviewee in response to questioning, and as such it is partisan, deeply involved, and irreplaceable. 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Reproduction of any item must contain the complete citation to the original. CITATION: Savage, John, Interviewed by Sally Flocks, 1 May 1987, P1987-06, Series B. Public Figures, Georgia Government Documentation Project, Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library, Atlanta. Copyright Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library GGDP, John Savage, Date: 5/1/1987 GEORGIA GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTATION PROJECT GEORGIA STATE UNIVERSITY SERIES B: PUBLIC FIGURES NARRATOR: JOHN SAVAGE INTERVIEWER: SALLY FLOCKS DATE: MAY 1, 1987 FLOCKS: This is an interview with former State Representative Dr. John Savage by Sally Flocks at her home on May 1, 1987. John, why don't we begin by talking a little about your background? Where were you brought up? SAVAGE: Sally, I grew up in the panhandle of Northwest Florida and South Alabama. I came to Emory in 1952 when I was eighteen. And for those of us that grew up in the South in the Depression years, to give you an example I said I was eighteen when I first saw a Jew or a Catholic or a Republican and there was a lot of truth in that because in my childhood I never saw a Jew or I never saw a Catholic and I never saw a Republican to my knowledge. I lived in small southern communities, very isolated southern communities with very limited income and really very limited contact with the outside world. FLOCKS: What did your parents do? SAVAGE: My Dad built roads, construction work, very hard from very early in the Copyright Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library morning to very late at night as a superintendent for a construction company building roads. FLOCKS: And you went to Emory? Did you start out as in the undergraduate? 1 GGDP, John Savage, Date: 5/1/1987 SAVAGE: In the undergraduate. I went to the college and went to the dental schools and taught the dental school and then I went to Emory law school also. FLOCKS: I saw that in the write-up in the Official Statistical Register and I hope that was interesting. Did you go through three years of law school? SAVAGE: No, I went back. At that time Emory law school was giving a Bachelor of Arts in Law. And I went back two years and picked up the Bachelor of Arts in Law from the law school. FLOCKS: Yes, I've never heard of a Bachelor of Arts in Law before and when I saw that I was curious. SAVAGE: Yes, they gave that degree and you had to have attended Emory undergraduate at that time to get the Bachelor of Arts and after the first two years they gave you a Bachelor of Arts in Law and then, if I had continued for another years I would have got the L.L.B. that they were giving at that time. FLOCKS: Did that have anything to do with your political aspirations? SAVAGE: No, I guess since I was a little kid I had an interest in politics and had an interest in politics at Emory. I was president of the student body and was always involved in all of the campus elections and that type of thing, so I had an interest in it, and still do. I still have an interest in the political process. FLOCKS: Were you running for political offices even in elementary and high school? SAVAGE: No, most of my interest at that time were hunting and fishing and playing Copyright Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library the things that country boys do. For example, there'd be six or eight months that I would be out in the rivers or in the fields or swamps everyday, hunting or fishing. And we had very little money to spend and we, you know, camped out on Friday or Saturday night. 2 GGDP, John Savage, Date: 5/1/1987 And none of my friends at camp, we didn't even have a tent. We'd camp with nothing but a blanket, that type of thing. FLOCKS: Well, you must have done well in school if you got into Emory? SAVAGE: I was a Depression . In 1934 was the year of my birth and when I came to Emory they needed students very badly. And believe or not, they had none of the SAT tests or those types of things and I made good grades in high school and I think if they'd administered any tests with any quality of academic achievement, that I'd never would have passed those tests. I was lucky I came to college in the years before you had to pass a lot of tests to get in. FLOCKS: (pauses) After you got out of law school, did you then begin working as a dentist? SAVAGE: I was working as a dentist when I was in law school and teaching at the dental school. And I got involved in the Republican Party, early Republican politics in Georgia and really thought that the Republican Party was going to be a vehicle for effective, constructive, political change in this state. There were several Republican Aldermen, at that time they were called in Atlanta. Dick Freeman was one of them, whose now a federal judge. Rodney Cook was another one who is now. Rodney is retired from politics and is simply in his insurance business, but they were very bright and they were very enlightened politicians in the state at that time and I thought the Republican Party had a wonderful opportunity in Georgia to point out everything from the Copyright Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library county unit system to the fact that blacks couldn't participate in government to the fact that Georgia ought to take leadership in the South in the twentieth century and that this ought to be a dynamic, progressive, estate and the Republican Party never fulfilled that 3 GGDP, John Savage, Date: 5/1/1987 goal in my opinion and I think the Republican Party is probably the least effective now in Georgia than it was maybe twenty years ago and that's a unhappy thing for the future of this state because we ought to have had a more competitive system of government than we've had and we still don't have a competitive system of government in Georgia. We still don't even have a Democratic institution even in the House where Tom Murphy is the speaker has total power and personally I like Tom Murphy and no qualms with what he represents in government, but to have what amounts to a dictatorship in legislative body and I not referring to him as a dictator, I simply referring to the mass and the power in one individual. It's still a sad, sad state, a commentary about the Georgia political system. I had hoped that many of these things could and would be changed in Georgia. Maybe some of them will. I saw the Republican Party as a vehicle maybe to bring about some of these changes and associated with it and work many, many years very hard to help this to be a Republican competitive two-party state, really. And I had a chance in 1976 or 1975, in 1975 I think it was, I could have been Republican state chairman had I wanted to be. That was after I had run for lieutenant governor in 1974. And it was interesting: I got more votes as a candidate for lieutenant governor than the Republican candidate for governor did, but that's some of the early interest I had in politics here in Atlanta. FLOCKS: So your interest in the Republican Party really was not out of any conservativism. Copyright Special Collections and Archives, Georgia State University Library SAVAGE: Well, that maybe is not true. I'm still a very conservative individual. There is a couple of things that I think I said. Wait just a second now. And this was in 19.
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