Luella Hennessey Oral History Interview – JFK#1, 11/26/64 Administrative Information
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Luella Hennessey Oral History Interview – JFK#1, 11/26/64 Administrative Information Creator: Luella Hennessey Interviewer: Ed Martin Date of Interview: November 26, 1964 Place of Interview: Boston, Massachusetts Length: 17 pages Biographical Note Hennessey was the Kennedy’s family nurse from 1935 – 1963. In this interview she discusses meeting the Kennedy family, her role as the family nurse, accompanying them to London, her memories of her time spent with the Kennedys, among other issues. Access Open. Usage Restrictions According to the deed of gift signed June 12, 1969, copyright of these materials has been assigned to the United States Government. Users of these materials are advised to determine the copyright status of any document from which they wish to publish. Copyright The copyright law of the United States (Title 17, United States Code) governs the making of photocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material. 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The transcripts were scanned using optical character recognition and the resulting text files were proofread against the original transcripts. Some formatting changes were made. Page numbers are noted where they would have occurred at the bottoms of the pages of the original transcripts. If researchers have any concerns about accuracy, they are encouraged to visit the Library and consult the transcripts and the interview recordings. Suggested Citation Luella Hennessey, recorded interview by Ed Martin, November 26, 1964, (page number), John F. Kennedy Library Oral History Program. Luella Hennessey – JFK#1 Table of Contents Page Topic 1 First time meeting John F. Kennedy [JFK] 2 Living at the Kennedy compound in 1938 3 Kennedy family dinners 4 Serving as the Kennedy family nurse at the American Embassy in London 6 Activities and trips while in London, Presentation of the Kennedy family at Court 7 Memories of JFK in London 8 English customs the Kennedy children picked up while in London 10 News of the death of Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. 11 JFK’s wedding to Jacqueline Bouvier 11, 12, 14 Caring for Jacqueline Kennedy during childbirth 11 JFK’s nomination as Vice President 12 The Democratic Convention in Los Angeles 13 Taking care of Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. in 1961 14 Visiting the White House 15 JFK’s assassination 17 Memories of JFK Oral History interview With LUELLA HENNESSEY November 26, 1964 Boston, Massachusetts By Ed Martin For the John F. Kennedy Library MARTIN: Luella, do you recall the very first meeting with the late President [John F. Kennedy] and some of the circumstances surrounding that meeting? HENNESSEY: The first time that I met the late President was at Hyannis Port when I arrived home with Pat [Patricia Kennedy Lawford], now Mrs. Lawford. I was going to stay with her for the rest of the summer. She had just been operated on at St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Boston. And when we arrived at the house the whole family was on the front porch to greet Pat, and of course Jack was among the ten tousled head, fun-loving Kennedys. MARTIN: How old was he then, Luella? HENNESSEY: He was just about twenty years old. MARTIN: Now during this summer you took care of Pat throughout the summer? HENNESSEY: Yes, I stayed until Labor Day, from about the middle of July. And besides taking care of Pat I joined in the everyday fun with the rest of the family and this [-1-] included swimming and tennis, sailing or perhaps acting as crew for the sailboat races. MARTIN: You acted as crew? That must have been some experience. Did they always have some sort of a solution, whenever the boat was coming down the home stretch there? Do you recall any occasion… HENNESSEY: It seemed that everybody wanted to sail and it was quite difficult to get somebody to crew so they all were very anxious to have me as crew. I recall one afternoon that I acted as crew for Jack. He was getting along pretty well and as we were coming down towards the goal line he threatened to make me jump overboard, so that it would lessen the weight and he would be sure to win, but he didn't quite make me do it. MARTIN: Luella, what year was this? HENNESSEY: This was 1938. MARTIN: What was living like, at the Kennedy compound then, you know, at the father's [Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.] house? How did they treat somebody who was not an immediate member of the family? HENNESSEY: Well, of course, this was a lot of fun for me. And at Hyannis Port this was the home that all the Kennedy children seemed to love the best and shared the happiest moments of their childhood. They engaged in all the fun that Cape Cod offers to children, and actually anything that kept them outdoors playing: lawn games, tennis, horseback riding, swimming. And I joined in with them in many of these games. MARTIN: Now how about the evenings around the dinner table? Were you invited to sit in with their meals? HENNESSEY: Oh, yes. I was treated as a member of the family there, and it was really quite a lot of fun to be at the dinner table with them. The food was simple and nourishing, and certainly cooked and served in a very tempting way. Mr. Kennedy was the chairman or moderator of the discussions that were held. And each child had a chance to give his or her [-2-] opinion. And in this way Mr. Kennedy taught them to recognize and understand that every person has a right to his own opinion even though it differs from yours. MARTIN: Well during the meals, of course some of the children were quite young, Luella, did he ever have an occasion to chastise or scold the children? HENNESSEY: Yes, Mr. Kennedy wanted to have them well disciplined and there's always a need for correction and guidance in a family of that size. MARTIN: What form of discipline would it take. Would he have them leave the table? HENNESSEY: Yes, or he would correct them right there and explain to them why it was wrong and to have them understand that this should not happen again. MARTIN: Well, now, as the children were growing up did the father discuss his business with them? Did he tell them what he was doing? HENNESSEY: No, he seemed to emphasize current events and probably service to your country. I guess he felt that he could tend to the finances of the Kennedy family. MARTIN: Yes, but I mean were they aware of what their father did for a living? HENNESSEY: I think only in going to his office. He kept most of his business, I think, outside the family and he just discussed current events and what the country was doing. MARTIN: Now Mrs. Kennedy [Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy], what was her role at the dinner table? HENNESSEY: Mrs. Kennedy sort of led the discussion on feminine and cultural things. Both Mr. and Mrs. Kennedy wanted the children to have a well rounded education and she often discussed fashion and music and literature, and left it to her husband to handle the diplomatic and government discussions. [-3-] MARTIN: Oh, I see. Well, in other words this was sort of education time at the dinner table, with the father and the mother both imparting certain interests to their children. HENNESSEY: Yes, I think in this way they stimulated the…interest of the children in many different fields. MARTIN: Well, now, Luella, you left the Kennedys in the fall of 1937. When was the next time you met them? HENNESSEY: Well, after I left them at the end of that summer, they went back to Bronxville, and I returned to Boston to do private duty nursing. And the next time I met them was when Mrs. Kennedy came to Boston for a visit with her parents before going abroad. And during this time, the few days that she was here, she was operated on for an emergency appendix at St. Elizabeth's Hospital, so I took care of her during her hospitalization there. MARTIN: Oh, I see And then following this, I believe, Kennedy was appointed Ambassador to England. HENNESSEY: Yes, that's right, and on one occasion, when he came to Boston to visit his wife at the hospital, he asked me to come along to London with them as the family nurse. At first the adventure seemed quite awesome, but after discussing it with my family and friends I decided it would be a wonderful opportunity to take advantage of and I was very glad to go. MARTIN: This, I take it, was the first trip to Europe for you, and I suppose it involved a lot of details and you were perhaps quite excited about it.