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Defe 24/2057/1 , - I df ~fr g ~ ;;'< ;yrr k ~ ~~~ Z_..~ (227 .ORT OF AN UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT I c "50 I 1. Date, time & 9'" fa ; /'1 ; r duration of sighting ~ ! ~ fw' """.<k., , I frr""" 2. Description of object 7A.<t< J.fJI 5'hvft- 1 h~. I (No of objects, size, shape, w;l~x-i M- 4 fn.JJ f I colour, brightness, noise) Ih-t-t,n.;L . j...~ 5' c.-"fl ... fl. h..~ : 3. Exact position of observer ft1L {,..~!.l M flr : (Indoors/outdoors, P; I W I ~'?L.M , kA-mr,t~ 11M stationary/moving) ~ (.rlj "J rf,J)t1 (<< Id!v M. I I 4. How observed (Naked eye, I binoculars, other optical /vJt t;c. device, camera or camcorder) -+ I I 5. Direction in which object Trvv.-Ji / IV'" Cr~'t I~ },Iv l' first seen (A landmark may be I more useful than a roughly buk., I estimated bearing) I I I 6. Angle of sight (Estimated ' t I heights are unreliable) N/k "'lfi"" J~t . I I I 7. Distance (By reference to a - I known landmark) 111* tff1JE t 1>\ J k I J'J;< I I 8. Movements (Changes in 5, 6 & 7 Htvtrrd , T "",.d. hi. 0') .fM:{f I- i may be of more use than ( /Vw ,J 'fl4 fAIl.. I /,.,....1, .~ I I estimates of course and speed) :' I I. fA{ I i I I 9. Met conditions during observations I (Moving clouds, haze, mist etc) Prr1. Il- ,I I I I i 10. Nearby objects (Telephone lines, I high voltage lines, reservoir, lake I or dam, swamp or marsh, river, high I buildings, tall chimneys, steeples, IJll I spires, TV or radio masts, I airfields, generating plant, I factories, pits or other sites with I floodlights or night lighting) I I - A~ ~ UFo Nf~ ~-v- b ~<- '13 /(;J$-/b3S.4- G) ~!~/w;{~(,(~/Se,J;w ~/~/ T~~l ()~- ~-&~, q Dee. ~ ~ M. 4 ~ T~ t~~ }?{Sec C-4:?'!:L=_ft -r'~~ ~VI 2:: .....')~-~ C) ~ ~,~ ~g"0 G \,? ~- ~ 'J y,"X J~ 11~ .:t.. .j~ ~ ~\ ~,411J.\b ~<t ~~ . ~~J _.jc:,& '~1~ ()- ~. v~ ~~N.-j iJ 0-.j -.(IS "o.rc:-cr o _ ~ ~"-J~:3~ i1j ~~'\' '''-102~~-- ( , -.::::.- J I tI1 DOeg ~\~~ f'1') {J A v< ct ~ --..p. AA - '":'1 ~~ '>~ . Commissioner will not investigate your case until the MOD internal review . process has been completed. Further details of the role and powers of the Information Commissioner can be found on the Commissioner's website, htto:/Iwww.informationcommissioner.oov.uk. Yours sincerely, .. 3. With regards tp the two short passages deleted rrom the DSI/JTIC Report No 7. I note that the extracted passages are currently to subject of discussions between the MOD and the relevant party (presumably the US Air Force rrom the context). If a decision is made to release these redacted sentences, would it be possible to notify me of the content. If the decision is to withhold the passages, I would appreciate knowledge of the reasons why this is felt necessary in the public interest after the passage of 50 years. .,.~' . ~',"':~ ..</'--/ . / -.:) " Main Building Whitehall 2001 London SWIA 2HB 15 January Your ref: D/DAS (Sec)64/311 copies oft.!:te files I Many thanks for your letter of 5 Ja.'1uary. The parcel containing return I enclose a crossed cheque requested arrived here at the end of last week, and in could let me have a receipt made out for the amount agreed. It would be helpful if you accounts. specifying the work done for use in my end of year request before the holiday. wish to thank you and the staff who worked to process my I sent wiij be of great ilelp as pan Your helpis very much appreciated and the material you assistance the M()D ,,"Vi> ,.,,~";n~n,. my ongoing research, which will aclmowledge the c.. file DSI/JTIC Report Wlth regards to my question regarding the location ofr..'1e missing reasonabk to locate t.'1is . satisfied that your staff have done everything No I'm rule om the document, but it is encouraging that you do not appear to complet~ly In the meaI1time, I v"ill possibility that it could have survived and may one d,,-y be found. continue to pursue other lines of inquiry to locate the docUL-nent a"d if successful will provide the MOD with a new copy for your records. look forward to hearing from you, . Extract from Ministry of Defence letter to XXXXXX dated 11 October 2000 "D51/JTIC Report No 7 "Unidentified Flying Objects" (1952)and related reports on "UFO" 1951-52 - I can confirm that a review of closed files has taken place v but none were found to contain the report you seek. As a consequence of this. and earlier searches which failed to locate the report, we conclude it has not survive the passage of time." , ~ -;...~ . > J ] ! ] Main HuiJd ng Whitehall 2000 London SWIA 2HB 10 October Your ref: DAS(Sec)/64/3 . Finally, with Jegards to my request for access to DSI/JTIC Report No 7 on UFOs (1952). It is disappointing that this document has not been located during your review of closed files. The attachment I enclosed with my letter of September 4 clearly demonstrated this document existed in 1967 when it was referred to by an officer of the DSTI branch, DI55. It seems improbable that such an important document (the basis of a briefing by the Secretary of State for Air to Prime Minister Winston Churchill in 1952) would have been lost or 'not have survived the passage of time' when other material of lesser interest has survived and is available in the Public Record Office today. From the DSI/JTIC committee minutes availah]e at the PRO it is stated that a 'watered down' copy of the Report No.7 was being considered for release to the Press during October 1952 by DDI (Security), so it is possible copies may have been sent to a number of different MOD departments. As it is also noted that the Americans (presumably the US Air Force) would have to be consulted before any Press release, copies of Report No 7 mav also have heen sent to the US Embassy in 1952-53. In addition. there is a note in the mi~utes stating thaL~oPY of this report had bOt;>! se!1L Lv Sit Henry TiL.ai , wi!vsc pape > are preserved at the Imperial War Museum. I intend to visit the Museum to research Tizard's papers in the near future, and will notify you if! find the document among these papers. ( t:.SI /-;r"T'SC ($"0)lOw.... M!J lq) - .... t>~1 /Ti'Tc(SD) Ilk....... ..Mb (") ~) O....A "'^- ~ ~,.~.h-: ~ P- r.1" I ~ rIA-"'~eLe..~ bSI/J"TlC0.1- w~..j..............,:.. P~'.r - ~'7 I ~M~"~'I-t-t.. ~ ,,:.',j !Sb-- ~ W,..,....~ ";. "'0/... '%-~ l/~ ~ '"-1,J S'b- Je..:...~ .. ~(\oJ "1i~ ( b.sI/::rn~(S011~ l~) ,.~U+.)~ o...Joe.. ~...... -.f' LM: 10 M~ ~e /4-Cl ......(. It-I..' -c- Lt. e.o. ~ . - 4-1~1 jco Dear Sir or Madam, I wonder if you could assist me with the following query: I am researching material for an academic book on the subject of the UK Government's involvement with the subject ofUFOsIFlying Saucers, N,you know there has been much material released into the PRO over recent years concerning this subject, and I have been able to work with this materiaL However, whilst searching for one particular document I have experienced difficulties, as follows. The document is question is called DSI/JTIC Report No 7 On Unidentified FIving Objects. It was created in 1952 by a 'Flying Saucer Working Party', There are several instances of minutes where this report and the composition of the working party are discussed yet the actual report itself is missing from the relevant files held at the PRO. However the file must be in existence because evidence exists that it was retrieved in 1967 by a member of the DSTI branch, DI55, That this is the case is demonstrated by lE.Dickison's note in file AIR 2/18117 where he states, "we have recovered all but two of the files on UFOs for the period 1951-52_....we consider that the report DSI/JTIC Report No, 7, Unidentified Flying Objects covers the situation as a whole for such activity at that time." As I have been told that all UFO files from 1967 have been retained, and as DSI/JTIC Report No.7 is clearly mentioned as having been retrieved in 1967 it should have been lodged in the UFO files for 1967 which have now been released. Close scrutiny of these files revealed that report No, 7 does not appear to be there, nor is there any mention of the file, As it was created in 1952 surely it has long since passed the 30 Year Rule marker and should be available to members of the public. Based on the above information and current legislation about the release of documents I am therefore requesting any information you have about Report No. 7 and if at all possible to see a copy of the file. I am quite prepared to pay any costs incurred. If, however, you deny any knowledge of this report I would like an explanation as to how it was retrieved in 1967 yet appears to be missing_ If you have the report but are withholding it from public scrutiny I would be interested to know why. From my own research I am satisfied that the government position on UFOs, ie that .
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