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Introductory Evidence with the Northern Ireland Office House of Commons Northern Ireland Affairs Committee Introductory evidence with the Northern Ireland Office Oral and written evidence Wednesday 8 September 2010 Rt Hon Owen Paterson, Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Ordered by The House of Commons to be printed Wednesday 8 September 2010 HC 442-i Published on 6 October 2011 by authority of the House of Commons London: The Stationery Office Limited £5.50 The Northern Ireland Affairs Committee The Northern Ireland Affairs Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration, and policy of the Northern Ireland Office (but excluding individual cases and advice given by the Crown Solicitor); and other matters within the responsibilities of the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (but excluding the expenditure, administration and policy of the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions, Northern Ireland and the drafting of legislation by the Office of the Legislative Counsel). Current membership Mr Laurence Robertson MP (Conservative, Tewkesbury) (Chair) Mr Joe Benton MP (Labour, Bootle) Oliver Colvile MP (Conservative, Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport) Mr Stephen Hepburn MP (Labour, Jarrow) Lady Hermon MP (Independent, North Down) Kate Hoey MP (Labour, Vauxhall) Ian Lavery MP (Labour, Wansbeck) Naomi Long MP (Alliance, Belfast East) Jack Lopresti MP (Conservative, Filton and Bradley Stoke) Dr Alasdair McDonnell MP (SDLP, Belfast South) Ian Paisley MP (DUP, North Antrim) David Simpson MP (DUP, Upper Bann) Mel Stride MP (Conservative, Central Devon) Gavin Williamson MP (Conservative, South Staffordshire) The following member was also a member of the committee during the parliament. Stephen Pound MP (Labour, Ealing North) Powers The committee is one of the departmental select committees, the powers of which are set out in House of Commons Standing Orders, principally in SO No 152. These are available on the Internet via www.parliament.uk. Publication The Reports and evidence of the Committee are published by The Stationery Office by Order of the House. All publications of the Committee (including press notices) are on the Internet at www.parliament.uk/niacom. Current Committee staff The current staff of the Committee are Mike Clark (Clerk), Duma Langton (Inquiry Manager), James Bowman (Senior Committee Assistant), Becky Crew (Committee Assistant), Karen Watling (Committee Assistant), Ravi Abhayaratne (Committee Support Assistant) and Becky Jones (Media Officer). Contacts All correspondence should be addressed to the Clerk of the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee, House of Commons, 7 Millbank, London SW1P 3JA. The telephone number for general enquiries is 020 7219 2173/1341; the Committee’s email address is [email protected]. cobber Pack: U PL: COE1 [SO] Processed: [05-10-2011 13:19] Job: 014022 Unit: PG01 Source: /MILES/PKU/INPUT/014022/014022_w002_kathy_Intro 01 - Written evidence from Rt Hon Owen Paterson MP.xml Nothern Ireland Committee: Evidence Ev 1 Oral evidence Taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee on Wednesday 8 September 2010 Members present Mr Laurence Robertson in the Chair Joe Benton Ian Paisley Oliver Colvile Stephen Pound Lady Sylvia Hermon David Simpson Jack Lopresti Mel Stride Dr Alasdair McDonnell Gavin Williamson ________________ Examination of Witnesses Witnesses: Rt Hon Owen Paterson MP, Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, gave evidence. Alan Whysall, Deputy Director, Constitutional Policy and Legislation, Simon Case, Deputy Director, Rights, Elections and Legacy, and Simon Marsh, Deputy Director, Security and Protection, Northern Ireland Office, were in attendance. Q1 Chair: Right, good morning. Can we begin the bring Northern Ireland, I hope, into the mainstream, public session? I welcome the Secretary of State for by a steady process of what I would call Northern Ireland; I congratulate you on your normalisation. But before we go to the questions, I appointment and wish you well in the role. We’re think I’d briefly touch on the main topics of politics delighted you’re here. What I’d like to do is invite and the current security threat. you to introduce your team and then maybe just make The politics of Northern Ireland, as we know, has been an opening statement on the challenges facing transformed in recent years. The previous Northern Ireland and the role of your Department. But Conservative Government played an important and you are very, very welcome; thank you for joining us. very courageous role in initiating the progress that led Owen Paterson: Thank you very much for inviting to the Belfast agreement, and I’m very proud of that. me, and many congratulations to you on your election But of course, I readily acknowledge the achievement to this important role, Chairman. I’ve brought of the last Government in building on the foundations Simon Case, on my left, Simon Marsh and Alan of the Conservative Government, in bringing forward Whysall, who work closely with me and have long the agreements which we now fully support. So, I now experience of matters to do with Northern Ireland. come in at a time of relative stability in Northern They have been in the Department for some time, and Ireland politics, which we haven’t seen for many I am very grateful for their advice. years. With the devolution of policing and justice I thought I’d begin, Chairman, by making a few complete, the major obstacle to effectively working opening remarks on where I see myself and the among the parties has been removed. position of the Northern Ireland Office following So I think I’d make it quite clear that our first priority devolution. I’m very glad to see you as Chairman, is to safeguard and enhance that stability. That must with your experience in Northern Ireland, having been be our number one priority, above all. As the Coalition a shadow Minister for several years, and I’m delighted programme for government made clear, we stand to see longstanding as well as new members of your firmly behind the agreements and the institutions. We Committee. In opposition, I was always conscious of will aim to have close and trusting relations with all the helpful and productive work done by the the Northern Ireland parties, impartially, and with the Committee, and the role it played in Northern Ireland Irish and US Administrations, who’ve both made affairs—not least under your esteemed predecessor, essential contributions to the advances we’ve seen in and my near neighbour, Sir Patrick Cormack. recent years. And in fairness to myself, when I was I look forward to developing a positive and shadow Secretary of State I did make a point of constructive relationship with the Committee over the getting to know all the main players in all the parties coming months and years. I hope we can talk often, in Northern Ireland, and I went to some trouble to get formally and informally, and that we may be able to to know the Government and the Opposition in catch up from time to time when you are in Northern Dublin, and meet significant figures in the US. I Ireland. I regard myself as very lucky to have become regard those contacts as a very, very important part of the Secretary of State at this time, and I think Hugo my job. Swire, my Minister of State, David Shutt who speaks There may well be challenges to the new institutions, for us in the Lords, and Stewart Jackson, my PPS, are but I see our role as being here to help, support and also fortunate to take over at this time. It’s an see a way through. We now have the opportunity—I important job and a fascinating one because we’re at think this is the important point—to move on to the a point where I think Northern Ireland can now move real, long-term issues, the mainstream issues, which on from debates which have dominated recent decades will require teamwork and a determined strategy. I see and confront the long-term challenges which will ourselves working closely with local politicians, cobber Pack: U PL: COE1 [E] Processed: [05-10-2011 13:19] Job: 014022 Unit: PG01 Source: /MILES/PKU/INPUT/014022/014022_w002_kathy_Intro 01 - Written evidence from Rt Hon Owen Paterson MP.xml Ev 2 Nothern Ireland Committee: Evidence 8 September 2010 Rt Hon Owen Paterson MP, Alan Whysall, Simon Case and Simon Marsh because so many of the competencies have now been ability and the determination to meet the challenge, devolved. The first, which everyone knows I’ve made and I’m confident that they do. We supported the last a major feature of our programme, is the economy. Government’s very generous settlement on policing, There is general agreement right across the piece that which led to the final conclusion of devolution, and in the Northern Ireland economy needs to be rebalanced; that there was a special package of £50.3 million for one figure I have is that Northern Ireland depends, for security measures, some of which spilled over on to 77.6% of its GDP, on state spending. I think our responsibility after the elections—an extra £12.9 everybody agrees that that is wholly unsustainable and million, much of which went towards technical needs to be worked on. advances such as automatic number plate recognition, We need steadily to rebalance the Northern Ireland or ANPR—and we very rapidly agreed that that economy, over years, working closely with local should go through. So we will stand by Northern politicians. That is the Executive’s objective and it’s Ireland on the issue of security. ours. We have to respect that large numbers of But it can’t just be done by politicians, or by police competencies remain in their hands, but we can liaise action.
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