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{Download PDF} Tong Wars: the Untold Story of Vice TONG WARS: THE UNTOLD STORY OF VICE, MONEY, AND MURDER IN NEW YORKS CHINATOWN PDF, EPUB, EBOOK Scott D. Seligman | 342 pages | 14 Jul 2016 | Penguin Putnam Inc | 9780399562273 | English | New York, United States Tong Wars: The Untold Story of Vice, Money, and Murder in New Yorks Chinatown PDF Book Sep 16, Kelly rated it liked it. Average rating 3. I was interested in reading this book after hearing a summation of it on the woefully underrated "China History Podcast". Not even executing them. Other Editions 6. Error rating book. Community Reviews. By shining a light on the power of association, the struggle for power, and the desire to survive, Seligman gives 'face' to the challenges of community-infighting, community-building, and community-identity in a racist and exclusionary America. In the end the book is interesting but I think it falls flat in that there's no big conclusion - the Depression pretty much did the gangs in because there was no money and no jobs for the Chinese, and by then the children had been born here for generations and were assimilating anyway. Having visited the Museum of the Chinese in America recently, and stayed in Chinatown during a recent stay in New York, I found this book an interesting read. Well paced and with a drive that keeps your interest, I would recommend this to anyone interested in a not very well known part of history. Champions League. The book peters out just like the subject material. Just when I'd start skimming however, the author would shift gears and broaden the discussion to the City's overall political climate, the federal government's attitudes on immigration at the time, and the social state of Chinatown and Chinese immigration. The city government was already corrupt from top to bottom, so once one tong began taxing the gambling dens and paying off the authorities, a rival, jealously eyeing its lucrative franchise, co-opted a local reformist group to help eliminate it. This would make a great movie. Highly recommended! The tong wars also made lurid headlines in the newspapers of the day. These migrant workers, unwilling, and after the Chinese Exclusion Act, unable to bring their families over to them, turned to societies or clubs for camaraderie and a place to belong. The one which works better for me is the one with direct relevance to our recent presidential election: America's reaction to immigrants. Jul 06, Ralph Blackburn rated it really liked it. Not threats or negotiations, not shutting down the betting parlors or opium dens, not house-to-house searches or throwing Chinese offenders into prison. Representatives of rival tongs secret societies corner the various markets of sin using admirably creative strategies. Pretty soon Chinese were slaughtering one another in the streets, inaugurating a succession of wars that raged for the next thirty years. Unless you are a historian or especially interested in Chinese culture, the book can be heavy going -- murder and maiming and more and more of each. The relationship of Chinatown and it's residents and of Chinese elsewhere in NYC to the policy and city government is in constant evolution and really held my interest. Jun 18, Kristine rated it really liked it Shelves: amazon-reviewed. Seligman details an American xenophobia which pre-existed Chinese immigration and continues to the present day. He was also a New York County deputy sheriff, making him the first Chinese to hold any appointed or elected government office. This is in no respect the author's shortcoming; the voices of people dead a hundred years or so are very hard to recapture, especially when they probably wrote rarely in English and left few, if any, memoirs. Tong Wars: The Untold Story of Vice, Money, and Murder in New Yorks Chinatown Writer Price Translator. But it's a compelling tale worth telling, and Seligman doubtlessly tells it well. Seligman is a historian, retired corporate executive, and career China hand, and he holds degrees from Princeton and Harvard. Elm rated it really liked it Shelves: , non-fiction. One theme that really stood out for me was how the sentiment towards non-white immigrants in the late 18 to early 's is not terribly dissimilar from the sentiments towards them today. Scott Seligman is a riveting storyteller and he brings New York's Chinatown gang wars of the early twentieth century back to life with nuance and strikingly vivid detail. Filled with interes So we know the basics of the Irish Mob and the Italian Mob back in the day when Prohibition turned honest men bad and drugs made bad men good money. Lists with This Book. Sadly most people during that time associated Chinese people with vice and were seen by the elites in New York and the Newspaper as a bigger problem than other immigrant groups such as the Irish, Italians, etc. Amazing detail, the result of painstaking research, and well worth recording, but not easy reading for those without special interest in the subject. But as money started to flow in from the gambling, prostitution, and the opium trade, others wanted in on the action. These migrant workers, unwilling, and after the Chinese Exclusion Act, unable to bring their families over to them, turned to societies or clubs for camaraderie and a place to belong. Hardcover List Price: Dec 17, Virginia rated it really liked it. The story line focuses on the clash between the two main tongs that originate from NY and SF. By shining a light on the power of association, the struggle for power, and the desire to survive, Seligman gives 'face' to the challenges of community-infighting, community-building, and community-identity in a racist and exclusionary America. Skip to main content. So instead it comes off at times as a rather rote listing of murders and other nefarious deeds that are linked by a tenuous narrative. Availability: In Stock—Click for Locations. Scott D. They gravitated to lower Manhattan and lived as Chinese an existence as possible, their few diversions—gambling, opium, and prostitution—available but, sadly, illegal. Joe Biden. By Ilana Masad. Yun added that most of the tong members were recruited among the innocent, quiet Chinese; only when they have been oppressed or exploited to the limit of endurance, will they join either the tong of the oppressor to demand redress, or the rival tong for protection and revenge. I enjoyed this book quite a bit. Jun 18, Kristine rated it really liked it Shelves: amazon-reviewed. Want to Read Currently Reading Read. This piece is an extremely well researched non- fiction account of the nineteenth century Chinese gang wars that took place in the Five Points area of the lower east side of Manhattan. Seligman Hardcover List Price: This would make a great movie. Goodreads helps you keep track of books you want to read. In all a much deeper book than what I initially signed up for, but very glad I read it. The only way to hold onto these profitable illegal enterprises was violence. Click here for reprint permission. The research is impeccable and the storytelling light on its feet. Seligman writes. Representatives of rival tongs secret societies corner the various markets of sin using admirably creative strategies. By Ottessa Moshfegh. Popular Nonfiction. North American Hi The author clearly knows his stuff and the book is filled with gritty facts. Tong Wars: The Untold Story of Vice, Money, and Murder in New Yorks Chinatown Reviews Jun 04, L. A mesmerizing true story of money, murder, gambling, prostitution, and opium in a "wild ramble around Chinatown in its darkest days. But that is natural when most of the actions of the competing tongs were assassinations and retaliations. Sort order. Elm rated it really liked it Shelves: , non-fiction. The first type was the regional societies, which were organized for people from a specific area of China. This also does not include the great photographs strewn througout the book. The Hip Sings returned fire and when the police arrived, they too began shooting, and the Chinese gangsters fired back at the police officers. Just when I'd start skimming however, the author would shift gears and broaden the discussion to the City's overall political climate, the federal government's attitudes on immigration at the time, and the social state of Chinatown and Chinese immigrati Overall very interesting. Jul 10, J. Interesting characters, the men of the tongs, however. I received this book as a Goodreads Giveaways winner. Not threats or negotiations, not shutting down the betting parlors or opium dens, not house-to-house searches or throwing Chinese offenders into prison. Praise For… A "wild ramble around Chinatown in its darkest days. A true story set in Prohibition-era Manhattan a generation after Gangs of New York, but fought on the very same turf. The relationship of Chinatown and it's residents and of Chinese elsewhere in NYC to the policy and city government is in constant evolution and really held my interest. Anyway, this is an important and worthy book, and the result of a lot of hard work. Jan 06, Alan Chong rated it really liked it. When the gunbattle was over, two innocent bystanders lay dead, as did two Hip Sings. Amazing detail, the result of painstaking research, and well worth recording, but not easy reading for those without special interest in the subject. Error rating book. Their few diversions in a difficult life were gambling, opium, and prostitution, which were illegal. The book peters out just like the subject material. Another story I found interesting is the history of New York City during the fifty or so years the book covers.
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