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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania House of Representatives COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HEARING STATE CAPITOL MAJORITY CAUCUS ROOM ROOM 140 HARRISBURG, PENNSYLVANIA THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2009 2:10 P.M. VOLUME IV OF IV PRESENTATION BY PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS BEFORE: HONORABLE DWIGHT EVANS, MAJORITY CHAIRMAN HONORABLE MATTHEW D. BRADFORD HONORABLE TIM BRIGGS HONORABLE H. SCOTT CONKLIN HONORABLE DAN FRANKEL HONORABLE JOHN T. GALLOWAY HONORABLE WILLIAM F. KELLER HONORABLE WILLIAM C. KORTZ II HONORABLE DEBERAH KULA HONORABLE BRYAN R. LENTZ HONORABLE KATHY MANDERINO HONORABLE CHERELLE L. PARKER HONORABLE JOSH SHAPIRO HONORABLE JOHN J. SIPTROTH HONORABLE GREG VITALI HONORABLE JAKE WHEATLEY HONORABLE JEWELL WILLIAMS ————————— JEAN DAVIS REPORTING 7786 Hanoverdale Drive • Harrisburg, PA 17112 Phone (717)503-6568 • Fax (717)566-7760 2 1 BEFORE (cont.'d): HONORABLE MARIO J. CIVERA, JR., MINORITY CHAIRMAN 2 HONORABLE GORDON DENLINGER HONORABLE BRIAN L. ELLIS 3 HONORABLE JOHN R. EVANS HONORABLE MAUREE GINGRICH 4 HONORABLE THOMAS H. KILLION HONORABLE DAVID R. MILLARD 5 HONORABLE RON MILLER HONORABLE SCOTT A. PETRI 6 HONORABLE DAVE REED HONORABLE DOUGLAS G. REICHLEY 7 HONORABLE MARIO M. SCAVELLO HONORABLE RICHARD R. STEVENSON 8 HONORABLE KATIE TRUE 9 ALSO PRESENT: 10 MIRIAM A. FOX MAJORITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR 11 EDWARD J. NOLAN MINORITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR 12 13 DEBRA B. MILLER 14 REPORTER 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 3 1 I N D E X 2 TESTIFIERS 3 NAME PAGE 4 MAJ. GEN. JESSICA L. WRIGHT 5 ADJUTANT GENERAL, PA DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS................4 6 DEBBIE STUBLJAR 7 DEPUTY FOR ADMINISTRATION, PA DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS...............11 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 4 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 * * * 3 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: I would like to 4 reconvene the House Appropriations Committee 5 meeting. 6 I would like to say good afternoon, 7 Major General. How are you? 8 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Good afternoon. 9 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: A pleasure. 10 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Thank you. 11 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: Can you introduce 12 yourself and the other person with you for the 13 purpose of the record? 14 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Absolutely. 15 I am Jessica Wright, the Adjutant General of 16 Pennsylvania. 17 And this is Debbie Stubljar. She is the 18 Deputy for Administration for the Department of 19 Military and Veterans Affairs. 20 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: Okay. 21 I'm going to start out with the questioning 22 right away. 23 As you know, probably the issue, I know at 24 least heard in my case a lot, is around the Scotland 25 School issue. And I would like for you to tell this 5 1 committee in a very specific way, why was that 2 decision made and that particular recommendation, and 3 I want you to explain why you think that decision was 4 made and what's your view in terms of alternatives to 5 address this particular issue. 6 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Sir, the decision was 7 made strictly on a financial and fiscal decision. 8 As you know, there's $2 billion that we have 9 to make up within State Government. The Governor had 10 to make some very, very difficult decisions, and this 11 was one of the ones that he had to make. 12 So it is based strictly on money. It costs 13 $14 million a year to run Scotland School. That is 14 $45,000 a student. 15 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: Okay. 16 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Because of that 17 reason, he felt that it was time to take a look at 18 whether or not there were other alternatives, and the 19 other alternatives are the public schools that we 20 offer all of the children in Pennsylvania. 21 So that is the alternative for those 22 attending Scotland School. 23 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: Okay. 24 Have you ever thought about the idea of 25 making it a charter school? 6 1 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Sir, I have heard 2 that there is a potential or a quest out there to 3 make it a charter school. That really does fall 4 within the Department of Education, and I'm sure they 5 will be able to answer the question on whether or not 6 that's an acceptable alternative. 7 That doesn't fall within my department, 8 sir. 9 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: Okay. 10 What about -- and I know something that you 11 do have an interest in -- the Valley Forge Military 12 Academy. As they would call it, the West Point of 13 Pennsylvania. What about the chances of 14 Valley Forge, some kind of merger happening with 15 Valley Forge Academy? 16 I know Bryan was here, Bryan Lentz. 17 Unfortunately, he had to leave. But in terms of 18 Valley Forge, what is your reaction to Valley Forge 19 playing some kind of a part? 20 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Well, sir, I have a 21 huge interest in Valley Forge: one, that it is the 22 military academy of Pennsylvania; and two, that I do 23 sit on the Board of Trustees of the Valley Forge 24 Military Academy. I think it's a phenomenal 25 institution. 7 1 President McGeorge has already offered any 2 student of Scotland School a significantly reduced 3 rate should they want to come to Valley Forge. 4 The decision of whether or not Valley Forge 5 would partner with Scotland School in any type of 6 private partnership is clearly up to Valley Forge, 7 and that decision hasn't been discussed. 8 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: But you, you know, 9 because I look at these hearings, at least from my 10 perspective, kind of being solution oriented. 11 And I understand, when you started out, what 12 you said with the Governor, because I recognize it's 13 not just the Governor. The Legislature, we equally 14 have as much responsibility to address that budget. 15 So I don't want this to be a session where, 16 it's the Governor's problem; it's not our problem. 17 It is all our collective problems, so I understand 18 that first. 19 But I just put that idea out there to you, 20 because I was talking earlier to people like 21 Bryan Lentz who talked about the Valley Forge 22 aspect of it as maybe we could have that kind of 23 discussion. 24 You know, I have been out to Valley Forge. 25 I have visited. I have watched and seen what they 8 1 have done. As a matter of fact, they produced 2 that gentleman, Larry Fitzgerald, who was on the 3 Super Bowl--- 4 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Yes, sir. 5 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: The team that at 6 least played against the Super Bowl champs. But I 7 put that out there, because I know that my 8 understanding is the Military Affairs Committee is 9 going to have a hearing on March 11. 10 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Yes, sir, they 11 are. 12 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: And I understand 13 the fiscal aspects. I want to be very clear. I 14 understand that if you don't remove something on one 15 end, you have got to figure out, how do you make it 16 up? 17 But what I'm also very much interested in is 18 the issue around the education outcome for the kids, 19 which we also should talk about, because what I've 20 heard, at least in the case of the city of 21 Philadelphia, is that they have talked about these 22 kids going to either existing high schools or to 23 charter schools, but they really didn't have a plan, 24 at least from some of the parents that I have heard. 25 And maybe you know about that or you don't. 9 1 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Well, sir, we have 2 had a couple of meetings with the parents. We had 3 one right after the Budget Address of the Governor, 4 and the Philadelphia School District was there and 5 they were prepared to work with any parent and offer 6 them alternative solutions to attending Scotland 7 School. 8 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: Right. 9 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: We have recently had 10 another meeting with Philadelphia. It is really the 11 Department of Education that is running these 12 meetings with the parents, and they are working with 13 them individually to slot their student in the best 14 school possible. 15 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: Okay. 16 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: I understand that the 17 charter schools even extended their period of time 18 for application based upon the timeliness of the 19 Budget Address and then the time frame that they had 20 their particular deadline. 21 They have extended that deadline so if 22 parents and students wanted to apply for particular 23 charter schools in Philadelphia, they were able to do 24 that. 25 MAJORITY CHAIRMAN EVANS: National Guard 10 1 members deployed this year, what type of support is 2 being provided for their families? 3 MAJOR GENERAL WRIGHT: Sir, their families 4 are very important to us, and as you know, right now 5 we have 4,000 National Guard soldiers from the 6 Stryker Brigade deployed to Iraq. 7 We also have 2,000 members of the Combat 8 Aviation Brigade that are deployed to Fort Sill, and 9 they are preparing to deploy to Iraq.
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