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DHC 27 —J UN— 73 10:50 17497 Unrecorded Journal Sometimes* I would like to use the Journal distribution capability. but do not want a NIC nuaber , nor do I want to have a copy of the note 'journalized'. Is there any possibllty of offerin sl th is capab11it y? 1 17497 Distribution Nps Np» Richard Watson} Charles H» Irby 1 DHC 27—JUN-73 Hi:50 17497 Unrecorded Journal (J17497) 27—JUN-73 10:50; Title: Author(s): David H. Crocker/DttC; Distribution: /NP; Sab-Collections: NIC NP; Clerk: DUC; NWG/'BFC# 537 SKB 27—JUN-73 12: 12 17498 Announcement of NGG meeti tig-J ULY 16-17 The proposed NGG meeting date of 16-JULY—73 has been 1 confirmed. The meeting will be held at the University 2 of Illinois on July 16 and 17. An informal meeting will 3 be held Sunday evening* July lb* to arrange the agenda. 4 The initial meeting place will be: 5 Room 201, Advanced Computation Building 5a 1101 Springfield 5b Urbanai III. 5c In the event that more space is needed, subsequent meetings may take place elsewhere. James Michener suggests that those attending be sure to have read his RFC 493 on graphics protocols. Local accoiaodatioas at Ramada Inn can be reserved by calling ( 800 )648—59701 t nei r toll-free number) or the local Inn, (217)352—7891. If you wish to make other arrangements, contact me and I will try to help. Airline reservations can best be handled by your local airline office. Jim suggested that I warn Ozark (the local service) of the upcoming surge of non-student, non- standby passengers in the hopes of getting better service. As Ozark is currently enjoying a pilot strike, I have been unable to do this. Hopefully, it will be over in a few days, but if it isn't, I recommend that you get the closest flight you can and reserve a car for the rest of the way. This probably will be resolved in time to avoid any hassle, but I thought you would li&e to know about it just in case. So that I will have a rough idea how much space we will need, let me know, if possible, if you plan to attend. 10 1 N1FG/RFC# 537 SRB 27-JUN—73 12:12 17498 Announcement of NGG meefiag-JULY 16-17 I can usually toe reached toy calling C217>333—9354» preferably in the afternoon* I will be gone July 2—6* so during that period, Nancy Freece at I 217)333—7161 will take your messages* Network mail will be readt earliest ( also during JULY 2—6) if sent to user BUNCH at site USC—ISI. Siy mailing address is: 11 Steve Bunch Center for Advanced Computation* Room 208 University of Illinois at Urbana—Champaign Urbana, III* 61801 11a 2 17498 Distribution Marvin Minsky, Robert E. iiiUtein, J, C» R« Licklidep, Robert M. Balzer, Herbert B. Baskin, Robert P. Abbott, Peter Kirstein, William B. Kehl» Rola.nct Bryan, James G» Mitchell, Jeanne B. North, Allen Newell, John McCarthy, Laurence G. Roberts, Frank E» Heart, Edward L» Glaser, Thomas Marill, I• E» Cheatham, James W. Porgie, Keith W. Oncapher, Edward A# Feigenbauat, Leonard Kleinrock, William K« Pratt, David C* Evans, Douglas C. Engelbart, Bertram Raphael, Daniel L. Siotnick, Thomas F» Lawrence, John W# McDonnell, James E. (Jim) White, A, Wayne Hathaway, Patrick W* Foulk, Richard A. Winter, Harold R. Van 7,oeren, Alex A* Mckenzie, Joel M. Winett, Abhay K. Bhushan, Thomas N. Fyke, B« Michael filber, Edward A, Feigenbauw, Robert T» Braden, James vt. Pepin, Barry D. Wessler, John I * Melvin, Steve R, Bunch, Rein Turn, Mark Medress, Franklin kuo, Howard Frank, Robert L» Fink, Glenn J« Culler, Frank S* Cooper, Bruce G• Buchanan, Kenneth L. Bowles, Morton I, Bernstein, Paul Baran, Saul Amarel, Roy C» Amara, John E« Savage, Butler W. Lampson, William R* Sutherland, Thomas G. Stockham, Gene Raichelson, Michael O*Matiey, Peter G, Neumann Richard B. Neeiy, Dan Gdoa, Ralph E. Gorin, Robert G. Merryman, P. Tveitane, Adrian V, Stokes, David L. Retz, Reg E» Martin, Gene Leichner, Jean Iseli, Jed E. Donnelley, William Kantrowitz, Michael S. Wolfberg, Yeshiah S. Feinroth, James Hurt, Anthony C. Hearn, Eric F. Harslem, Robert M. (Bob) Metcalfe, Bradley A. Reussow, Daniel L. Kadunce, George N• Petregal, Michael B» Young, Michael A. Padlipsky, Schuyler Stevenson, L» Peter Deutsch, John Davidson, Thomas O*Sullivan, Sol F. Seroussi, Scott Bradner, Robert H• Thomas, John C. Thomas, Michael J* Rotnanelii, Ronald M« Stoughton, A, D» (Buz) Owen, Robert L« Fink, Jaacov Heir, Jeanne B. North, Steve D» Crocker Peter Kirstein, Jim D» Foley, Jim H« Hansen, Steve R« Bunch, Ron M« Baecker, Jeanne B, North, Howard D» Wactlar, Marshall D» Abrams, John W» McConnellt Steve D, Crocker, W• Jack Bouknight, Jaacov Meir, J. C. R. Lickiider, Robert M• (Bob) Metcalfe, James C. Michener, Albert Vezza, Edwin W, Meyer, Michael A, Padlipsky, Kenneth T» Pogrun, Ira W. Cotton, Jerry J. Powell, Dave E. Liddle, Eric F» Harslem, E» Wells Pughe, Jean M« Saylor, Charles H« I rfoy , John T, Melvin, Richard W• Watson, James A. Moorer, Jonathan B« Postel, Ronald M« Stoughton, Terence E. Devine, David J* King, William L« Andrews, Milton H. Reese, Kenneth M» Brandon, Lou C, Nelson, Jeffrey P« Golden 1 NWG/RFC# 537 SRB 27-JUN-73 12:12 17498 Announcement of NGG meeting-JULlf 16-17 (J17498 ) 27-JUN-73 12:12; Title: Authorf s ): Steve 8« Bunch/SRB; Distribution: /NGG NLG Skti Pi ; Sub-Collections! NWG NIC NGG NJLG Pi ; RFC# 537; Clerk: SKB; Origin: <1LLI NOIS>NGGM. NLS;2 , 27-JUN-73 12:00 SRB ; SMS 27-JUN-73 132 24 17499 Some Rambling Thoughts on METED and/or neted Let me say at the outset that I am not an editor 'freak* and hence the comments that follow should be weighted accordingly* On the other hand^ maybe some comments from a naive perspective would be helpf ul* 1 Resonse to DEiC's comments: 2 [Page 1: Reference to runoff.*.] I agree. The term 'runoff was bandied about at the last meeting and I must confess I was never sure of what it meant* I assumed runoff was similar to NLS's output processor which is apparently close, if not correct* 2a [Page 2: (First paragraph under choices )•••] Picky, Picky, Picky. 2b [Page 32 Please change or explain.*.] If a 360 hack like me understands, I don't think there is much of a problem. 2c [N{ ext ) m should be more like *tn. • • ] I agree there should be a convenient mechanism for backspacing files, particularly if fixed line numbering is not employed. However, T also agree with MAP that '+ m* would be cumbersome. How about a backspace command li ke 'b a'? 2d [Locate is a more rare term...] Whatever turns you on. I like •locate' myself. 2e should he "i" (for insert)...] I agree that we could get by without 'i string*. However, it does add some amount of convenience so why not leave it in? 2f [Should be I string (for list)...] 'retype' is had, 'list* is worse, but 'replace* tell3 it as it is. 2g [There needs to be a read command... ] I will yield to the editor srizzards on this one. 2h [Line numbers.•• ] I'm somewhat impartial on this. Since I normally run from CRT devices, line numbers have never caught my fancy. It doesn't accomplish much to have line numbers if you can't associate the numbers with the text you're interested in. I suppose if I don't have to see them I don't care if they are there. 2i Comments in general: 2 As I recall, there was general agreement that it would be wise to use an existing editor that has been around for awhile. The fact that MAP's editor is well documented is also an important consideration. Yielding to minor suggestions could result in the 1 RMS 27-JUN—73 13:: 24 17499 Some Rambling Thoughts on METED and/or neted total basturdizing of the original proposal. Hence, in the interest of showing some compassion for the previous comment, I will withdraw my support for including a •backspace file* command (as much as 1 would like to have it) and cast my vote for keeping MAP'S editor as proposed. 2 17499 Distribution Le roy (Lee) C» Richardson* Frank £?• Brignoli, Elizabeth J« (Jake) Feinler* Michael D» Kudlick, James E. (Jim) White* Michael A. Padlipsky, Kenneth Bowles, A» Wayne Hathaway, Jean Iseli* David H, Crocker* Nancy J. Meigus* Stephen M# Wolfe* Ronald M* Stoughton* Jim O, Calvin* 1 RMS 27—JUN—73 13:24 174S9 Some Rambling Thoughts on METED and/or ne ted (J17499) 27—JUM—73 13:24; Title: Author(s): Ronald M. Stoughton/RMS; Distribution: /USING; Sub-Collections: NIC USING; Clerk: RMS; Origin: <UCSB>METED.MLS;1f 27-JUN-73 13:16 RMS ; — - _ Dirk The stuff I've seen on the Utility did not make clear how much individual users would he assessed, What is the info on that? 17500 Distribution Dirk H» Van Nouhuys* Jf?P 2 7-JUN-73 13:23 17501 whoduni t did you delete my file "jimessage"? I don't need it luckily but am distressed that files I write get deleted without my knowledge. JOHN PICKENS I 17501 Distribution Ronald M» Stoughtony JRP 27-JUN-73 13:23 17501 vhodunit ( 17J 501 ) 27—JUtf—73 13:23; Title: Author(s): John R. Pickens/JRP; Distribution: /RMS; Sub-Collectiaas: HIC; Clerk: JRFJ JRP 27-JUN-73 14:03 17502 WHO SUPPORTS LEVEL-0 GRAPHICS? 0oes any site in the network graphics group support Level—0 graphics protocol as a server? I am impleaenting a user process to drive local tektronix terminals and a PLATO—IV terminal which we are modifying for network use.