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Pl,U('?O\4 Re: New Bookabout the Sevensepts Oflaois To: R DF21 L1402+members From: DavidR Moore, administrator pl,u('?o\4 Re: New bookabout The SevenSepts oflaois Thisrather long document might be ofinterestto LI402+ menwith SevenSepts of Laoissumames. Since all L1402+ men probablyhave a connectionto CountyLaois it may be of interestto you aswell. Ifnot, iust discardit. The R-L1403 Haplogoup paradigmhas been broadened by the publicatior'of Ftom Laok to Kefty by Michael ChristopherKeane. This book shouldbe of specialinterest to Ll402+ men (andtheir women)with SevenSepts of Laois sutnamesthat axeinterested in their deepancestry and the history ofthe sevensepts. The book also delvesinto an importantslice oflrish history. The book is availablefrom severalbook sellers in heland and as ofthis week it is availablefrom Amazon.com.It is lessexpensive ifordered from Amazon.comconsidering shipping and exchangentes. Contactinformation for one ofthe book sellersis below. FromLaois to Kerry (fromO'Mahony's web site) by MichaelCh.istopher Keane ( http://www.omahonvs.ie/v2lfrom-laois-to-kerrv-o482696html ) Formany c€nturies before its plantationby the Englishand renaming as Queens'County, Laois was under the controlot the SevenSepts (Clans), the O'Moores, o'Kellys, O'Lawlors, O'Dowlings' O'Dorans, O'Devoys or O'Deevysor O'Deesand McEvoys. Following many bloody battles the surviving Septs were transplanted to Kerry,being under senlence of deathif returningto Laois,The land in Kerrywas available for transplantation followingthe unspeakablehorrors ofthe ethniccleansing of l\4unsterduring the Elizabethen-Desmond war. The Septswere established in Kerryas tenant farmers undertheir landlord, Pakick Crosbie. These dramatic events arereviewed in PartI aswell as a detailedtracing oI thecontinuing strong presence ofthe LaoisSept descendantsin Kerrythrough the centuries down to the presentday. ln Partll, the remarkablelives of Patrick crosbieand his son sir Piercecrosbie are discussed in detail.Patrick crosbie was a leadingfigure in lrish historyduring the plantation period, posing as an Englishimposterwhile in realitybeing a Maccrossan,bards to the OTvlooreaof Laois.Sir Pierce Crosbie, subsequent landlord to the Septsin Kerry'along with leading regimentsin variouswars, was both cupholder and Gentleman ol theKings' Bedchamber of successiveKings, J;es I andcharles L He losthis estates and was jailed due to hisimplacable opposition to the lrishLofd DeputyWentworlh, only to regainthem when Wentworth was executed for treason He was also closely asiociatedwith what is arguabtythe most notorious sex scandal in Britishhistory in whichhis stepson the Earlof Caslehavenwas executea for sexual depravity. His remarkabls career ended in supportingthe l1shCatholic Confederacyin the '1640s.Michael Christopher Keane is a retiredlecturer from University College, Cork A native ofTarberl,Co Kerry,he nowlives in Faflan,Co Cork. ISBNr9780992698867 (Forewordby DeclanM. Downey,PhD) € 20.00 ln Stock. usuallydespatched in 1-2working days ***** ProfessorKeane has shared with us a coupleof articlesthat I have copiedand included below. Of considerableinterest is the list ofsevensept menwho weretransplanted from Co Laoisto Co Kerry. Thereare some surpriseshere. Apparentlynot all ooKelly"men went by thesurname Kelfy. Thesame is true for the othersepts. DNA may eventuallysort out whether our particularlines descend from the Laoisbunch or from those transplantedto Kerry. In addition to what ProfessorKeane shared with us, I haveincluded a coupleof other articlesand maps.As I said someof you will find all this interestingwhile othersnot so much. Beechgrove, UpperFafia& Ovens, Cqlk kelard P31K886 20rhOctober 2017 353-21-"t331406 353 -87 -2'7045a6 mjagkean€@gmail.com [email protected] DearDavid, I was very happywith our recent€mail exchangeand indeedwould like to leam morc about , SSL ard DNA. Obyiously a lot of rork is i'l Fogress in the US and elsewhoe but it is quite limit€din Irelandso far. As I giveoccasional talks in relationto my bookI will try ro encouragegreat€rparticipation, particularly amongtllose with SSL sumames.Also I wilj now includea slideon SSLDNA in my powerpoint. I fiave compiledthe enclosedset of itemswhich may be ofirterest as follows: - An articleby Fitzgerald(1923) which irclud€s the full list of289 (102Moores, etc) - Aa interestingarticle by Dowling (1952)which discussesthe 289 andthe trarsplantationto Ke.ry - - An article by Martin Moore fiom Kerry. Martiu is a good local historianwhom I know IIis article discussesthe SSLMoores ofNorth Kerry liom whom he claims dgscentaod Martin is very knowiedgeableon their continuingpreselce in No.th Kerry through the generations.The article also lists the lO2 Mooresas above.Mafin hasjustrecently published an interesting book on morcrecent Kerry historyinvolving ourwar ofindependence(1920-22) ill whichhis ancesto$plaled a leadingrole. An articleon the siegeofBallingany fort in NorthWest Kery in theearly I640s. It just mightbe ofinterestin thati1 lists 100 names who werethe tlefenders of thefort. Thelist includes3 Dowlings/Doolinsofwidely varyingspelling, 3 Lawlorsof varyingspelling, I thinkone Moore (Meete Moare) and one Kelly who playeda key rolein endingthe prolonged siege. Undoubtedly those attacking the fort includedfar greaternumbers ofthe SSLin Kerrygiven the politics ofthe timebut unfo.tunat€ry no listingexists. An outlineofmy KeaneY-DNA as compiled by a Corkneighbor Margaret Jordan who is knowledgeableabout DNA. Two articlesreceiv€d from the US from Keane/Kane/Cainfolk who seemto knowa lot aboutDNA andmy Keaneorigins Theselatter may not beof greatinterest but , sho\1where DNA cantake one. With regardto surnamesand spelling I havea little stolyAom Tarbert. Co Keny whereI was bornand grew up on a farm.My friendsand neighbours there included Dowlings, Kellys, Moores,Dees ( Deevys)in theparish (population c 600),with Dorans,Lawlors and McEvoys in adjoinhg parishes.My irnrnediatefarmirg reighbours,the Dowlings,with whom I am stiil liiendly,were always pronounced locally as Doolins, not Dow lings.Likewise my own swnamewas alwayslocally pronouncedas Kane/Cain,even though formally at work and in Corkwhere I live theemphasis is on thee. Justshows why spellingscan vary so much, especiallywhen many emigranlIrish were havingtheir rames recqrdedfor th€ firs1time in for exampleEllis island.Jwt thinkthe storywith regardhgto theDovdings/Doolins above -mightbe ofpaticular tuteeestmEmilyDAulicino ed I rru,rldbe ddig*ted if you.could forwardit to her hdeedthis whole set ofa.rtioles may be ofinterestto her Ifunabteto forwed dre diclcslo nw-yoursetftLe4if sherhsint€rsstedad.I.hd,@ address;l couldforward them myself ffi tftisis €riooghfc'rtie presem.butlookingfoffad to morcoortact Verybest wishes 'lA"Alcil*au Michael CluistopherKeane (Asrrixh nmre8lrm knoqn asMich8el iII Co* ard ClnistoplnrinKeny soI havsto use bothl) Notes on the Family of Patrick Crosbie of Maryborough, by Whom the Seven Septs of Leix Were Transplanted to Tarb€rt in the County Kerry in 1608-9 Author(s): Wslter Fitzeerald Source. Ihe Journal of the Royal Society of Antjquaries of lretand, Sixth Series, Vot. 13, No. 2 (Dec.31, 1923),pp. 133-150 Published byr Royal Socletyof Antiquariesof A,ccessed.:26 / I I / 20 14 1I t29 Yorr uscoflhe JSTOR archive indicates your acoeptance ofrhe Terms & CondirionsofUse, availabte ar hlIp:/ww jsror.ore'oaqe/rnfo/aboui,Dolicieylefts.uD JSTORisa not-fortrofitservioe that nelps scholars, researchers, and students discover use, and build upon awiderango of contentin a trusteddigital archive. We usc infom0tion technology and tools lo incleaseproductivity and facilitate newlorms ofscholalshi!.For more information about JSTOR, pl€ase contact [email protected]. RoyalSo.kt)' o{Ahtiqnl\4 o/r"/ord is ollaboralingwith JSTORro disitize,presene and extend acces io Incroftnat aI Inr Korat na' tpt ol Anttqrarp: ol|rctohd. rrrTll."ffi ( 138 ) ]{OTES ON THE, T'AMILY OF ])ATN,ICK CROSBIE OF MARYROIi.OUGII, BY WIIOM TIIE SEVEN SEPTS OI, LIIX WER,E TIiANS]'LANTED TO TANBERT IN T]IE OOUNTYKE,RRY IN 1608-9. By the late Lo&DWALTER FrrzGnrer,o, Vice-Prcsident. lnead3 J!Lr, 1023.1 IIE encestorsof the lamily of Crosbioof the Oounty Kerry anil tbe Queen's County were iwo brothers nomed Patrick end Jolm Crosbie. Ttre Jormer died in 1610, end tho latter in 1621. The weightof Lrvailubleevidcnce icDds to provethat they be)ongedto the family of Mac Crosean,her:ed.itarv Berds to the O'More'soJ Leix, and.this remainggood in spiteoi the statement thqtl th9 younger brother, John, wheu appoiated Biehop of Arclfert in 1600, was clescribed pateDt - in the of his advancement us a graduutein the scbools,ol Englishrace, yet ekilledin tho frieh tongue"; t he appearsto ha.vesuccesefull;i anglioised hirn- self by assumiug(as his brother also did) the nami of Crosbie. ancl conlormiagio the EstablishedChurch (which his brother diil !o!1. Patrick Crosbieduring his services ts the Crown naturallv made enemies:anoDg them appearsthe name of T'bomaslOtL Earl of Ormonil,who. in 1601,euclosed a note to Sir Roberr Cecil. the Secretaryof State, in which Patrick Crosbieis described ', bv one well accluaintedwith him, as being a Mcy Crossane,onL oi the mero Iriehry, whosechief ancestorhath blen cbief rvmer to O'More,wbich he dcniee,claiming Eog)ish blood and surnio,e: but this is uot so to m1 knowJedg-,for hjs brotherwas o,fthe O'Mores, and. his father'g mothei of the O,Kellve o{ Cla.umal" yrie."'1 Tbis evidence,ard the {act Lhat latricl Crosbiemen. tions relations with Celtic namss in hig Will, proves his Irish origin. Patrick Crosbieis first,
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